Tech Over Tea - The Clones Finally Meet - Tech Over Tea #12 - feat Bryan Jenks

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

Today on Tech Over Tea I'm chatting with Bryan Jenks a fellow Luke Smith clone and Linux content creator, we had only planned to go for about 90 minutes but that turned into nearly 3 hours, we chatted... a lot about Linux, shell scripting, a touch of politics and even Bryan's side business. I personally really enjoyed this episode so I hope you guys do as well. ==========Guest Links========== YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhSB16X9MXhzSFe_H7XbHg LBRY: https://open.lbry.com/@BryanJenks:1 Website: https://www.bryanjenks.xyz/ ==========Purchase My Gear========== ► Buy Anything: https://amzn.to/3eT3gsR ► Blue Yeti USB Microphone: https://amzn.to/34oj8P8 ► Logitech C920 Pro Webcam: https://amzn.to/2JUYiNL ► Neewer 176 LED Video Light: https://amzn.to/2xbK0Wu ==========Support The Channel========== ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/brodierobertson ► Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/BrodieRobertsonVideo ► BTC Wallet Address: 1Aokiv3pFQXUEmh2LbzZQAwxMvq6bpT2UN ► ETH Wallet Address: 0x80451867c86bdf08c3888d407c1e3fcb6add61ed ► LBC Wallet Address: bLRN9fm17sCexKfgbYqmMj5xskZF2ogpEh ==========Video Release========== 📚 LBRY: https://open.lbry.com/@TechOverTea:3 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBq5p-xOla8xhnrbhu8AIAg DISCLOSURE: Wherever possible I use referral links, which means if you click one of the links in this video or description and make a purchase we may receive a small commission or other compensation. I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and related sites.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, so welcome to episode, I believe it's 12th of the podcast, and today I've got someone I've wanted to talk to for quite a while on the show. This is Brian Jenks, a fellow copy of Luke Smith. Welcome to the show. Yes, I guess we're both counted as discount Luke Smiths at this point, but you got the beard now. I shaved mine, so. Yeah, I've been growing this one out for quite a while now, and it's not going anywhere I I don't like how I look without a beard it's
Starting point is 00:00:30 just like a bit much I said what were you saying if I shave it my whole face completely I look 12 so I just keep a little bit yeah that's fair that's pretty much what happens with me as well I kind of haven't really aged uh since i was quite young so i got rid of this yeah i've easily looked 12 which has been a problem for a while because you know how you have those um you go into like a a supermarket complex or like a shopping complex and you have those people who are like hey do you want to donate to x charity and uh here you have to be 20 for whatever reason to sign up for those donations and since i was like 16 people like hey do you want to sign up for this charity he's like no go away i don't want to do that i thought this was going a different
Starting point is 00:01:19 direction i thought you're going to say people came up to you and asked you if you were lost and where your parents were no that uh that would be uh uh yeah that has ever happened i don't think so to me yeah no i don't think i've ever actually had that happen i'm too tall for that shit people People are like... Yeah, I didn't know you were talking to the Discord. You're like, what, 6'6", did you say? Yeah, if you're on metric, it's 198 centimeters. But yeah, I'm pretty tall. So I've been almost that tall for... Shoot, almost elementary school. I was already like five feet when I was in second grade or something like that.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Maybe I was just under five feet. But yeah, no one ever asked me anything. What am I now? I think I'm 5'10", 5'11". I haven't bothered to check in a while. Last time I was that tall, I was in middle school. Yeah, I've always been the, like, the shortest guy in my friend group. I am one of the taller guys in my family, though,
Starting point is 00:02:27 so I guess I have that. I'm the tallest. I was one of the tallest people in my graduating class of over 1,000, so... Oh, jeez. Wait, you had 1,000? Hence the screen name. I'm sorry, you had 1,000 people in your graduating class?
Starting point is 00:02:42 Probably more than that. It was probably close to maybe 1,200. I don't remember. Yeah, there was less than 40 in mine. Aussie life. Yeah, I kind of did go to a really, really shit school,
Starting point is 00:02:58 though, so there was a lot of people who dropped out and were like, hey, I'm going to become a rapper. I was like, no, you're not. You're not going to become a rapper. Oh, we not you're not gonna oh we got a lot of those we got a lot of those yeah but this is australian rap which is uh notoriously terrible yeah i've heard some good good stuff i forget the name of the group because it's been a few years but i've heard some good stuff yeah i've lived okay maybe it's just the fact that I'm not super into Australian hip hop, that the stuff that I kinda get is uh, I guess the stuff on the edges that people laugh at. Maybe it actually is good, and I just haven't come across any, but at least, at least what
Starting point is 00:03:39 I've seen hasn't been, hasn't been the best, that's for sure. Yeah I remember I'm thinking of the stuff like back when everyone was making parkour videos like they were always using this one group that sounded like it was australian rap but everyone was using their music when when was everyone making parkour videos when did i miss out on this well that was like i think a golden age of that, at least coming from California, was probably around four or five years ago. Ah, okay. But, yeah, there was a big, big hit of that stuff here.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah, we tend to be following American trends after a couple of years they've been finished so maybe that'll hit here eventually. And maybe you'll hire a Donald Trump. I kind of want that because our politics are boring I love US politics because it's just fun. At this point you can't even tell if it's politics or just memes. Yeah I don't know what's going on with you guys I'm sure you've seen the video that Trump tweeted a little while back where it was like Obama and a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:04:53 sitting on a couch and they're watching a Biden press speech and it was it was Biden talking about how he likes kids jumping on his lap. That man shouldn't be running for office. I still don't even know how he got there, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I don't really pay attention to politics much at all. Yeah, that's fair. It's too stressful if you take it seriously. I did that for a couple of years and just like no i'm done i want to go do something fun now i just stick to news boat i just get what i want in there everything else is away yeah that's fair that's a much easier way to do it yeah i don't want i don't want all that crap in my head mean world syndrome and just seeing all the random shit in the world i don't want all that crap in my head. Mean world syndrome and just seeing all the random shit in the world. I don't want to see that stuff. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I got my own stuff to worry about. So I actually got a list of things I did want to talk about because I wasn't sure how well our conversation would actually flow. But the first thing was, what made you want to actually switch to Linux? I know that obviously we both watched Luke's videos, but I'm sure that that wasn't the only reason. No.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I had an Ubuntu laptop and I played around with just dual booting and then I have had an Ubuntu laptop long before I ever heard of Luke. So I was messing around with it a little bit just because I like to tinker with things, but I never really got into it, especially like, you know, you don't have Ubuntu desktop.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You're just, you're using it basically like you use windows. I would only use the command line just to pseudo app install stuff. Yeah. But when I saw his content on YouTube, it was really interesting because I liked the idea of what Vin was doing, you know, just everything,
Starting point is 00:06:46 all the fingers on the keyboard, not having to use the mouse, all of that type of stuff. And then he was in to academia. He's a PhD. Just seeing everything, like all the stuff he had going on. It was really interesting to see like how he formed his digital life.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And so I saw like a lot of the practicality of the of the things he was doing and i saw how they could like impact my life and how i could use them to better my my workflows or my note-taking or whatever um and there's a couple of influences he's one of them of why i wanted of why i wanted to go back to school because i already like i back to school because i already like i already have a career i already graduated like lower level college but i'm going back solely just because i want to and partly because i want to like flex all these skills that i've gained and actually apply it to an academic environment but um it was was really seeing like what he would what he built how he applied it and just you just what he says about it's your system now.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You can control it. You can build whatever you want. And why not build something that's hyper-customized, super efficient, gets the job done, and saves you time? Yeah, for me, I'm in my fourth year of university now. Yeah, for me, I've... Well, I'm in my fourth year of university now. So I would have found... I think that actually part of...
Starting point is 00:08:11 Like, the main reason I switched over to Linux was because of Luke's content. I actually dived pretty much straight into Linux. So I went from being a full-on Windows user for, like, I think the first... I think the first couple of weeks of my channel, I was still on Windows. Um, and then I dived from that straight into Arch Linux. I'd been like watching, um, DT's videos, Luke's videos,
Starting point is 00:08:36 um, Chris Okapenty, people like that for a good year and a half before that. And then I think, I don't know what it was. I think I had just started trying out more of this like open source software on Windows. So I'd gotten rid of Acrobat Reader because it's garbage. I'd gotten rid of a lot of little things. I'd actually learned what Git was at that point. So I was actually doing a lot of stuff from the Git Bash terminal thing on Windows. Same.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And I'd discovered things like Pandoc. And at some point, I realized it was going to be harder to keep doing that stuff on Windows than it would have been to just switch over to Linux. Because at the time, I didn't really have anything directly tying me to Windows. At this point I do have a Windows install because I've got to do some Unity game development but besides that I don't touch Windows at this point so at this point there's nothing tying me to
Starting point is 00:09:41 Windows. Like you know what I'm just going to switch and see what happens and this was also at the start of a semester so i was just like let's just let's just see what happens in this semester i can write documents i can surely submit my assignments everything else is gonna be uh guesswork at this point it'll be okay it'll be fine nothing will go wrong yeah and then it's i think towards period, I broke something in my Arch install, and I had to, yeah, I had to reinstall that, and that was fun. So, moral of the story is, don't switch to Arch at the beginning of a semester.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Give yourself a bit of time to get used to it. No lie, just before this podcast recording, like a couple hours before, I was still messing a little bit with GNU Sto because I'm trying to get better.file management. And so I was making some sim links on my.localbin scripts. And I was moving some stuff around. And for some reason, I didn't do one of the links right.
Starting point is 00:10:38 So I'm like, okay, fine. I'll just delete these links for this thing and start over. And I moved everything back. I accidentally deleted all the scripts for my status bar. And it wasn't like, Oh, I have trash CLI or whatever it was you talked about in that video, which I am totally going to get hooked up tonight because this was bad.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I just straight up deleted it. And there's like some way of like going through like a log dump or some weird crap of restoring it. I just couldn't figure that out. I'm just like, shit. So I grabbed my Git repo, I grabbed a copy of an old commit of the repo, and then just remodified my whole status bar to be what it was in the video that I posted. So I had to watch my own video to fix it. And that was what I was doing right before we started talking today. I think the only thing that's caused me to seriously
Starting point is 00:11:27 break my status bar was when i switched over to um switched over from bash to dash is my um my sh shell i didn't actually check that some of my scripts had actually been using bash and then some of the dependencies in the scripts were using bash as well but Yeah Right now for dot file management, I'm using the like hackiest method ever It's just like a big shell script that just has a bunch of like a list of symlinks to make I should look at something like stone actually It's been on my list for a while people keep telling me you should look at this you should look at something like Sto and actually it's been on my list for a while people keep telling me you should look at this, you should look at
Starting point is 00:12:06 like yet another.file manager and a bunch of other things like that and I'm just like I'll just have to rewrite what I've already got working, it works at this point, I might as well just leave it as it is What I saw that what I was doing before was something similar where
Starting point is 00:12:24 I would just like copy the.file to a certain repo and that was fine. But people recommended a couple... some of my subscribers recommended a couple things to me. If it was like Gnusto, RCM. I remember watching DT's video about GitBear repositories and that just didn't make any sense to me. Yeah, I wasn't sure what was the point of that one it seemed like a lot of the comments didn't understand uh or thought the dt didn't really understand the point of them either so i guess it's uh everyone's kind of uh in agreement on this one yeah but i've been messing with uh stow since last night and once i figured out how you're actually supposed to set it up it's
Starting point is 00:13:05 actually pretty straightforward it's pretty nice it's just I mean if you don't mind looking at sim links when you're going through your normal directories but if you wanted to encapsulate all of your dot files config files local scripts into a single directory yet at the home level and have it all backed up with git and just sim link to those areas and you don't care about seeing a shitload of symlinks you're good to go and it's really easy and it never deletes or overwrites anything
Starting point is 00:13:31 so I'm pretty I'm gonna hopefully be finished moving over tonight because I got somebody who wants to grab my status bar and yeah I'll probably make a video about it soon too because it's once i figured out how it worked i'm like why was i not doing this already i've heard good things about it so i might have
Starting point is 00:13:51 a look at it at some point but right now it's um well i think week nine or week 10 of my uni semester so it's starting to get to the point where my assignments are due and i've got to do uh actually i don't have an exam this semester i now have a week-long assignment so I've got to prepare for that as well. So right now I'm kind of just going through videos that I already know stuff about or I can, I guess, do the research on pretty quickly but I do want to do some bigger projects like redo all of my dot file management in Stowe or have a look at another window manager, things like that. Well, I mean, the current video trend seems to be everyone saying, eh, DWM, eh, reee!
Starting point is 00:14:33 Oh yeah, on that note, did you, so I assume you have seen Luke's video on DWM and then you saw DT's response on it? And I saw somebody, somebody actually sent me another video of... Was it HexDSL? and I saw somebody actually sent me another video. Was it XDSL? Yeah. And then somebody, like, name-dropped me on that video. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Because, like, the video I uploaded about, like, moving away from larbs, like, just doing my own thing and moving away from that direction because now I feel more comfortable with all this Linux stuff, just learning by doing my own thing. That was all filmed, scheduled, and put out before DT even uploaded his video because I shoot in advance on the weekends because I don't like to film during the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So like that came out, I'm just like, oh, wow, I unintentionally hit the gravy train here. Everyone's on this bandwagon. Yeah, you might have actually timed that perfectly without even trying to do it. Yeah, because that was not intentional. So have you actually seen all three? I know you saw the Luke and the DT one. Have you actually watched all the way through the Hex DSL one as well? Yep. Yeah, so I don't know what's happening right now. So now there's this weird war that's happening between four window managers that otherwise no one would really have any questions about.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It's just like, oh, is DWM versus BSPWM versus i3 versus... Exmonet? Yeah, that one. Thank you. Normally no one would even question. It's like, oh, you're using bspw i mean that's cool now it's like everyone linux drama i love it it's great yeah everyone outside of this sphere is just like what are you guys on about oh yeah everyone else is just like this like this is the
Starting point is 00:16:20 most meaningless drama ever how do you look at your programs on your computer screen? Ugh! Well no, like the thing is, if you're coming from being a Windows user, they'd all look exactly the same anyway. It's like, oh this is just a slightly different way to lay your Windows out, except really you could make BSPWM and DWM kind of behave the same way so there's not actually that much of a difference in the first place. Yeah the Windows workspaces and some of those things where you can snap
Starting point is 00:16:56 Windows to different sides of the screen are like one of the few things that keeps me sane on my work laptop. i i've been having an interesting experience trying to get used to windows again i think right now what i'm doing is just letting everything just sit there and just not dealing with it because pretty much all i need is that unity window and then visual studio for my c-sharp stuff because i i could go and set vm up on the windows machine i don't want to do it i'll just accept that Visual Studio is there. Because I'm going to get rid of this drive as soon as this mess is over anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Plus most of the applications like that, I think there's a paid one for SSMS if you're doing queries. But for VS Code, RStudio, they all have Vim plugins or Vim keys that you can get. So I stay somewhat sane with that. But I still break a bunch of shit when I'm on Windows because I keep trying to use Vim keys that you can get so like i stay somewhat sane with that but i still like break a bunch of shit when i'm on windows because i keep trying to vim keys it's like i've reached that point in my life i'm i'm that level of vim user where you start breaking shit because you're trying to do things the vim way the thing that i've been doing a lot is i've been trying to quit
Starting point is 00:17:59 windows with my uh but uh super shift q and it it obviously doesn't do anything or if you're trying to like switch workspaces and uh super uh super two or like super like super any of the number keys basically what that's going to do is open an application just something in your um what do they call it on windows system tray yeah that Yeah, it just opens a new program in your system tray. I have a couple of my programs up at the top so I can actually use that because I know that most of my time is on Windows when I'm working. So I kind of just try to like optimize whatever I can do with Windows with that way. But yeah, getting Vim set up is pointless at this point with that. There's only so much you can really do to optimize a Windows workflow.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I think there's a tiling window sort of thing that goes on top of the Windows window manager. That's hard to say. It emulates a tiling window manager better than the snapping stuff. But I have no idea if it's any good. Well, I work on a locked down machine from a government agency so it's not going to happen for me yeah that would uh that would limit you a bit wouldn't it yeah i don't really have much of any freedom with what i can do with my laptop i was going to ask you what you did but it sounds like it's uh something you may not be able to talk
Starting point is 00:19:23 about not in detail i work for um a state government agency and one of the big ones here in california so i'm a government flunky a paycheck's a paycheck yeah i'm a research data analyst um i'm a research data analyst too so I'm like the senior of the analysts. But yeah, it's a good living. I get to do programming and things for the state government. And ultimately, there are other groups and people who, especially like the free code camp groups of people, there's actually some here in California that actually work closely with some of the public sector agencies and actually do like civil coding and provide dashboards
Starting point is 00:20:09 and support for different things for civil agencies and help solve civil problems. Like when Corona Chan happened, we all had this group of people set up things like a, I think it was a R Shiny dashboard using Leaflet.js. And they had like, all the details for all the open restaurants that were still doing takeout. It's like, things like that to just help support the local community. So there's a lot of things like that here. But yeah, I do programming and things with, you sql database stuff uh writing embedded web apps in medical
Starting point is 00:20:47 software and a couple other things but yeah i'm a government stooge as much as a lot of the people in this niche of the world seem to not like that it's it's comfy living right now and right now it's a good time to be working for the government yeah yeah you guys uh america's doing really bad like yeah california's got a 54 dollar 54 billion dollar deficit right now which is larger than our 2008 crash jeez so it's it's gonna be dicey okay in australia we're opening back up but now china's like hey we're gonna start an economic war with you we're just not gonna buy your beef like okay that's fine let's let's not like china do you have bigger problems than australia just leave us alone please hey they just really don't like
Starting point is 00:21:38 kangaroos they don't like to be fair like honestly they should buy some kangaroos. We have too many of them. They are a pest. All the joeys? Do you actually know how many kangaroos are in Australia? I have no idea. Most people don't seem to realise how ridiculous the problem is. I think it's a bit over double the number of people. Jesus. Yeah, so they are actually a pest at this point. It's like my town with cows.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I didn't think you could ever get to the point where cows are a serious problem like that. Well, they're not a pest or a problem, but we have like twice as many as people. Oh, man. Aren't the kangaroos just like, bro you want to fight punch yeah i would avoid them at all costs if they come anywhere near you like some people it i guess it's fine if they're sort of domesticated in a zoo but if you see a wild kangaroo do not go anywhere near it it's like seeing a wild dog just slowly away, because it might kill you. I think I remember hearing that, yeah, the
Starting point is 00:22:47 males will, like, box with you and, you know, do that, but the real danger is their kicks. Yeah, no, the kicks... I'm not sure how powerful the kick is, but I know that they can do significant damage to the front of a car. So, just think what that would do to your ribs.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I am never going to australia there's plenty of other reasons not come here as well just the snakes the spiders the birds that will eat small children literally everything trying to kill you yeah pretty much you get used to it at some point that's why you stay inside and then eventually because you're inside so much you learn linux and that's why we're here now. I guess that's one way to put it, isn't it? It's fine, you're not safe inside either because the spiders will come inside. Oh god. It's always interesting the reaction I get when I hear other- I see the reaction
Starting point is 00:23:41 from people in other countries about spiders. Because here, there are people, obviously, who are arachnophobic. But I don't know how they survive. Because you just, like, walk into your kitchen and say, oh, there's a spider there. Whatever. Smack it. It's fine. Well, that's how I am. But my girlfriend, no, it's go kill that spider, please.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah. Yeah, my sister is horribly afraid of spiders and whenever when i was living with her it was any time a spider would appear she's like oh can you get it can you get it's like no i'm just gonna sit here and laugh at you what did he do to you i'm just gonna let him bro over there you kind of start to recognize the spiders that are a problem um a lot of the spiders it's kind of safe to just smack them with your hand but not even though i'm not like obviously a spider expert there's there are some uh colors on a spider that you should just avoid at all costs
Starting point is 00:24:37 if it's like red or white just do not touch it with your hand because you will probably die treat all spiders and venomous or potentially venomous things like a poison arrow frog. Avoid. Yeah, well, that's probably the safest way to do it. Really, if you are worried about your safety, I would recommend just picking up a shoe,
Starting point is 00:24:55 but eh. Because I've already scared away all the spider people, there was one thing that did happen back when I was living at my family house. It was, I think, midnight or something, and there was a spider running across the floor. And I came out and smacked it with a shoe, and it turned out it was carrying an egg sac on it, and hundreds of little spiders came out of it.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I got a similar story, if we're going to be keeping the arachnophobic people away uh back at one of the first few houses i grew up in where there was this huge garden spider like i mean everything was like this big in like leg span it was huge and i we had two of them we left them alone they did their thing caught flies good good spider but there was an egg sack in the web and i being a young stupid child didn't have any idea what this was i pick it off i open it up and now i have baby spiders all over myself oh no of course i was just like but you know and if it was anybody else they'd probably be like hysterical yeah god that
Starting point is 00:26:06 i okay the thing is i i'm fine with the spider i'm fine with like spiders and bugs because they're not on me if it's on me i'm like but if there's at least like a little bit of distance between us like whatever you're a spider i don't care about you i kind of just become a massive bitch about it when it touches me i was that weird child that that knew that the, I'm not sure if they're called the same there, or if you guys even have them, but the daddy long-legged spiders. Yeah, yeah, we call them the same thing. But they're basically harmless to us anyways. And me being a kid knowing that, I'm just like, cool, I'll just let him crawl on me and freak people out.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Oh no. God, I pity the babysitters I had as a child. Yeah. They probably weren't being paid enough to deal with you. I got ADHD. They were not paid enough to deal with me. Oh, yeah. That would be fun.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, water time. Yeah, water time. Yeah, water time. Yeah, this is my cycling bottle that I haven't used for cycling in a very long time. I just got this one, which I have several different bottles for different things, but this one, it's like a Takeya or whatever this is. Some like $20, you know,20 random water bottle on Amazon. I really like it because it's got a big opening for ice cubes but also the top is not a flip off so it's not going to
Starting point is 00:27:33 burst open and it's not a complete screw off the top to get to your water but it has a little cap that screws off and it has an interior thread and then flips open that way. Oh yeah, I had a very similar one. It was a thermos.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But then I was using it at work and I dropped it plenty of times and I stood on it and it broke. That's dedication. Yeah. It needed to die. It did, but it was entirely my... Okay. It was sort of my fault. I was leaving it on top of pallets when I was moving them around.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm a night filler in a supermarket. Got that really enjoyable job. Honestly, it's not too bad. I enjoy it. It's fine. It's menial labor. Gets me out of the house. It's better than what I did in college.
Starting point is 00:28:26 What were you doing in college? I put myself through college. Are you going to say fast food? Because I've done that as well. It wasn't fast food in the normal chains that we have. It was a mom and pop frozen yogurt shop working retail front counter alone the whole time. So, I mean, on one hand, I didn't have coworkers to bother me, and I could spend three hours opening or closing alone, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But anyone who has ever worked retail or anything interacting with the public knows just how stupid the public is. I'm very aware. It's like you get a magnet for every dumb ass person that exists and they are, they're going to be seeing you. They're going to be seeing you at your job. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Even though I'm a, I'm a night filler, I still get a lot of people that come to me and just ask me the most inane questions. I've had people ask me like where the freezers are. I was like, have you considered walking to the end of the store where that entire wall of freezers are? You'll find them. I guarantee
Starting point is 00:29:30 it. Or I'm like standing next to the salt and like, Hey, where's the salt? Like, are you blind? Look like 40 degrees downwards. You'll see it. Like slightly turn turn your head i know it's going to be painful but ah there it is but then i guess from time to time you do you get those nice customers it's not often but they'll sometimes just be that sweet person who comes through like at the start of all of this corona stuff uh we had a limit on toilet paper i'm sure you guys had the same thing we had a limit on toilet paper I'm sure you guys had the same thing yeah that was fun experience but there's a dude who because we had a limit of one pack of toilet paper he thought that meant one roll of toilet paper and he wanted me to like open a packet for him and I was like no you can have the entire packet and he was so happy about it because he was like 90 years old okay the age makes it very much more heartwarming and less
Starting point is 00:30:33 interesting yeah if you want to be a bit more heartwarming he also had like a skin graph on his face and he could barely walk so all right so everyone has got a bleeding heart out there you now have your daily heartwarming story and then you have other people who come through the store who you're convinced are going to stab you when they actually maybe this is just a problem with the area I work
Starting point is 00:30:55 because it's kind of a poor area you'll have people who come through with like head to toe head to toe tattoos and they'll just ask you the most basic question whereas if you saw them anywhere else you'd be worried they'd stab you yeah being i have a fair amount of tattoos or something but hey i don't know i got a fair amount of tattoos but it is something you get when you get a lot you become conscious of
Starting point is 00:31:22 so like if i'm walking down somewhere and if it's like later at night or if there's you know if it's just me and there's no one else around and there's like some other person over there woman man doesn't matter but like if there's somebody over this over there like i just i'm already conscious of like okay i can't act in any way that could even be construed as creepy creeper well you're also a giant so you've got a worse problem there as well yeah i just look scary to people it's like i'm not i'm i'm not but i mean you see like a six foot six you know i'm i'm almost i think i'm like 250 pounds or almost 100 kilos and i've got a shitload of tattoos so like people see me walking up,
Starting point is 00:32:05 if they didn't know me, they're like, uh. Yeah, I don't intimidate anyone. It's nice. It's also a bit of a problem sometimes, but generally it's a, it's fine. But I can see how that would be a problem. I guess you can't really walk around at night with like a hoodie over your head.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah no probably the best idea it is nice though because people seem to because they might be a little intimidated they just don't do stupid crap to you right off the bat so like they don't know okay should i can i even i'm not sure about this guy and then they hear me talk about linux or other nerdy shit and they're like okay i could totally rip on this dweeb yeah that i've managed to actually weirdly that's never been something that's actually gotten me bullied for anything like i've always been that nerdy kid. But even, like, all throughout school, like, that was never really a problem for me.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I guess it was because I could actually hold a conversation with someone with stuff outside of nerdy stuff. Like, I've never been much into sport or anything like that. But I could still at least hold a conversation with someone. Yeah, I was not really good at socializing as a kid I was more quiet and read a lot of books and that made me more of a magnet but because I'm so big it wasn't too bad but then I started like looking from the ground and just looking forward and then got a little bit more self-confidence then people stopped messing with me in high school so So I was like, okay, so this is how you avoid all of that. Just walk around like, yeah, I will punch you in the face if you mess with me. So that seemed to solve it for high school.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, especially because of how just honestly, just that basic level of self-confidence. You don't even have to do anything intimidating just because of how tall you are. Yeah, it's a little helpful yeah they're not going to try to like push you out of the way when you're trying to like go up the stairs or anything like that like nah this dude will like clothesline me or something no i've never even had anybody try to start a fight with me which is probably good for them i actually i think all the fights that I've been in
Starting point is 00:34:26 were partially the reason they started because I had serious anger problems as a kid I've been there that was really my only problem that I had growing up I would just get angry at the
Starting point is 00:34:45 most menial stuff it's like oh someone slightly insulted you time to get really angry about it i think that's just testosterone growing up in general yeah i was like 10 or 11 at the time though so i don't know that's about that time oh yeah that might be it i don't know that's about that time yeah that might be it but imagine just getting that angry about comments I've had so many people who just
Starting point is 00:35:15 it's one thing to give some sort of constructive feedback and then other people who are just complaining about absolutely nothing they're just trying to find problems when there are no problems there kind of like the people on youtube that followed you from luke's channel and you get like yeah you get a lot of the cool linux fans but then you get a lot of the shit posters yes yes i do so you get
Starting point is 00:35:41 that lovely benefit of his recommendation is that you get a lot of the people from 4chan to be fair a lot of those people have actually been pretty cool i've had a few people who were interesting characters um but most of them have been pretty chill like i think the uh the mod you're talking to on my server he was a 4chan guy as well i mean i'm not saying i don't lurk 4chan yeah well i i have other things to be doing in my time i i try to avoid doing that i mean after i heard that luke was basically just the the physical embodiment of the g forum i had to go and like check out what g was all about and it's just everyone talking about Linux. That or posting memes of Richard Stallman. Speaking of G, did you... A few months back when DT did a video,
Starting point is 00:36:38 I think he was trying to appeal to the 4chan viewers. You might not have seen it, but basically he went on 4chan, posted a thing, basically asked them how he could improve his channel. Oh god. And all of the comments were just absolute shit. I can imagine the level of shit posting that was, just delete it. It was probably like one of the main ones of shit posting that that was. Just delete it. It was probably like one of the main ones. Yeah, I think that was the top one. And then there was other ones like,
Starting point is 00:37:11 stop trying to appeal to the 4chan users and not in such a nice way, obviously. Other people being like, stop trying to like copy Luke and things like that, which it's always nice when other people get that. Yeah. Like I did, I fully admit I was doing a little bit of his like meme thumbnail stuff in
Starting point is 00:37:33 the beginning. Definitely without a doubt. You want to get your channel up and off. And now I'm just like at this point, okay, I feel like I'm getting a good amount of growth and I'm kind of happy with it. And I'm kind of happy with it. And I'm kind of getting my own little groove going.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So that and I'm just planning to move away from larbs anyway. So I kind of just stopped on that. Just doing my own thing this time. One thing I didn't ask you about earlier was what made you decide on larbs rather than spinning something yourself up? Because I saw what Luke was doing with larbs. And I was like, oh, that's's cool i want to do that myself whereas you were like okay i'm gonna just switch straight over labs um i wasn't switching from anything other than windows so it was kind of like i wanted to i didn't have any experience with linux other than like my
Starting point is 00:38:22 ubuntu desktop that i used for the bare necessities of just like window management or like file management I was on Windows myself but and then I when I went to Arch I went with like a completely clean setup so that that's what I mean there like because I I was just like that's all cool what Luke's done maybe I can do something myself that fits exactly what I want to do yeah that's my next step I have what my current system and it's like it runs it works it's stable and I can do what I do every day I can you know do work do school do whatever on this thing but um now that I have my uh testing machine so I have a two ThinkPads now. I got an i5 and an i7. And so my i7 is actually what I use every day.
Starting point is 00:39:08 But this i5, I just put in a new SSD. And so now I can actually use this as I can start building a system from scratch. I don't have to worry about anything. I can build it. And then I can just swap the hard drives and just start from there and move my actual files over when I'm ready. just start from there and move my actual files over when I'm ready. So that's my next step in my grand plan of all this is build something of my own from scratch, figure out how it all works, figure out how to get X or running and just all,
Starting point is 00:39:36 all of that and following the wiki more. So that's going to be like the next step of in-depth learn by doing project based learning is actually doing my own bare installation. But now I can walk into it with a little bit of experience from messing around with larbs and looking at how things are put together, what are some of the things that you can do with it. Like instead of putting all your stuff in your Bash RC,
Starting point is 00:39:59 put it in other documents, source those, like just little things like that. I can walk away from larbs knowing that, seeing that, working with it, and then I can implement that on my own in my own way, which is ultimately what I intend to do. Yeah, I'd completely cut you off there. Sorry about that. Right in the middle of you trying to explain what you were, why you did that. So you kind of just wanted something that you knew was going to work. And then from there, once you've gotten used to working with Arch Linux, then you could go do your own thing, basically, I guess.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yep, because I wanted to immediately use what I saw Luke using and learn it. And what I did with that, I mentioned this in your Discord channel, that I just watched all of his videos videos like every single bit of his videos other than like the long podcasts on but every single one of his videos about his system vim law tech everything I watched all of them I made like I had a Trello board at the time before I moved over to this and just everything terminal based I had a Trello board I have a card for every program with you know sub notes on it for every link for documentation review, for video review, when I actually got the system up and running
Starting point is 00:41:09 for checklists of what I wanted to do. And I had this whole board of like all the programs that he talked about everything that went into the system, everything I wanted to do with it, all the documentation. And I systematically went through every single bit of it over the course of like two months to actually use the programs, learn programs the hotkeys where the files are stored what to do with it and that's how i really got familiar with it and now i've just been like kind of just playing around learning a few more things like you reviewed my flash script but uh learning doing that just because it was actually meant for me but writing that really got me more comfortable with writing bash and I've done a couple scripts of my own for my own reasons and
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like my runes script. It's just a simple translator for like English to a UTF A unicode character set but this flash script was actually like a real project using bash and like an actual actual work sense so like that got me really familiar with Bash and got me really interested in it because once a language can hook me by getting a project I'm invested in, then I actually can get into it enough to actually stick with it, which is why I'm super into R. And so I hope for something like that with C, maybe. We'll see. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:28 But maybe. It's probably not, but I don't really see. With so much that you can do with Bash, it's almost like, well, why go to C at that point? But we'll see. But, yeah, I want to take all those skills that I've gained by using the system, the way he set it up.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I've changed a lot of things to my own, the way I want to use things. But I haven't done anything from scratch, which is, yeah, like I said, my next step. So I'm looking forward to that, and also dreading the headaches and the head scratching to come really it's from my experience it hasn't been too bad i haven't tried to do anything too crazy though like getting your xorg server working isn't difficult you just
Starting point is 00:43:18 install it um you install it and you just you just start x and it works maybe in the past it would have been hard but um yeah because i was i was saying before that i wanted to do everything myself so i've kind of just done like if you've watched my channel like the early stuff and then you watch the new stuff my setup has completely changed because I've just been incrementally over time building up something that I think is like the best system for me. And I'm still working on it now. Like I saw your video recently on, um, the changes you're making to your lab setup with your status bar. where you had just the single icon there. So I've decided to do something similar with my torrents module, and also I'm going to put a crypto one there as well. But I thought that I'd had my polybar to the point where I was like,
Starting point is 00:44:18 this is good, and then I see something else someone else does, like, oh, that's cool, I can do that as well can't I and that I think is one of the benefits of styling everything completely from scratch you have no idea where you're going to take it you just kind of stumble in a general direction yeah I got uh one of the cool things that I did like about taking all the scripts that were already packaged with larbs is that now i've i've completely rewritten a few of them like the one that was there for actually it might even not even be luke's i think it's some of these come packaged with i3 to begin with but there's one for like batteries that i changed out and i i went through all of his and removed all the the typical emojis that he had in there,
Starting point is 00:45:07 the ones that are not like flat. And I put font awesome ones in there because then they're treated like text. So you can actually color them with the span elements and inline CSS. And so now I actually do that like conditionally on the battery. So I have different battery icons for like charging,
Starting point is 00:45:23 discharging, static, or empty. And then it changes color to match my Grubbox theme that I did all just inline CSS. So I've been going through all the scripts and changing that today by remaking them. But I do
Starting point is 00:45:39 like how my status bar turned out. It's not going to be complete. You're going to it again, guarantee it. Oh yeah, I add and remove modules all the time. I just got, I got the crypto one in here now that he has on the new distribution, but I only care about bat and LBC. So I like have those going,
Starting point is 00:45:59 but I didn't wanna have like all the stuff printed out on the status bar, take up the space. So I removed the print statement at the bottom and just left the the notify send stuff if you click on it and instead at the bottom i just have it like spit out a yellow colored bitcoin icon on my status bar so i can just click that yeah i wasn't gonna say um right uh pretty much the only crypto I care about is LBC and BAT as well. I've got some other investments, so those are kind of like long-term ones. Like I've got a bit of Bitcoin because why not? I've got a bit of Ripple because why not? But the ones I mainly care about were
Starting point is 00:46:42 LBC and BAT. Have you actually seen what's happened to the LBC price recently? Did you check it? Because it's almost at five cents. Yeah, it's been hovering around three lately, but yeah, it is about to go back. It is going up. I was actually looking at my LBC counts on library because I saw like an email they sent
Starting point is 00:47:06 out recently about you need to actually pull your LBC out or something per month. Or they recommend it. And I don't even know what to do with that. I just keep my videos uploading over there. And that's all I really do. What I would recommend doing is I noticed that a lot of your content there doesn't really get views. What you can do is you can take some or you can claim some
Starting point is 00:47:25 of the tips that that you've been sent and then support your content with those tips so that's that's basically how i've been growing on the platform basically i a few months back when it was like real cheap to get a bunch of lbc i bought like a couple hundred dollars of it and then i started supporting my own content and then that would cause like more but basically put the video up in trending hmm so I would I don't know how much you've got on your wallet but I would recommend checking that out obviously don't take everything out because if you did then that would reduce the discoverability of your content as it is but if you've got like a couple of months saved up,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I would take off like a month or two to just go back and support your content. Yeah, I need to look more into LBC because I haven't done anything other than just let my videos roll over to there. And I take whatever I did make from like view view stuff and drop it on my videos. And that was really all I did. That was it. That's pretty much really all you need to do. Obviously, you can spend more time looking into it.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And I've been getting really involved in the Discord community because there is a serious spammer problem on the platform right now. And I want it dealt with yeah i don't know how much it's affecting your comments even if you if you even check them on library but on mine i always get at least five five to ten people being like hey follow me i'll follow you or click here to get free bitcoins like no stop go away i only get i only get like one uh one or two
Starting point is 00:49:07 on occasion but i don't even see any sort of like pop-up notification or anywhere to even check your comments besides just going to each video and you don't even get notified there's no notifications for comments it's like there needs to be they're coming but they're not here yet i hope so we got nested comments before we even get notifications that we have comments yeah i i feel like that was a bit of a a weird decision to go that way but from what i've heard from the ceo and people in the team the comment system they currently have is kind of, they took their existing system and then, sorry, the notification system,
Starting point is 00:49:50 so the email notifications, they took their current system and just glued notifications on it. So they kind of want to rewrite that system so they can do things like push notifications and just make it a bit more seamless like other platforms are. That would be preferable yeah speaking of bitcoin uh i actually have a funny story about that a friend of mine from my high
Starting point is 00:50:15 school actually was early on just interested in bitcoin so before it got like big, like when it was like $300 a coin initially, he bought a good, he bought a fair amount of them, but he wasn't like, sadly he wasn't smart enough to be a Bitcoin millionaire, but he made like, I think he went from $300 coins to, or actually $100.
Starting point is 00:50:40 He made about eight grand, just $8,000 just from Bitcoin, from buying early and holding it for a little bit. And I think he bought himself a car with that. Nice. Just with Bitcoin. That's kind of what's going to happen with my LBC at this point. Well, I don't want to say how much I have, but all I'll there's there's enough to buy a cheap car that's awesome i just started using brave for yeah the bat and you weren't using fire so far weren't you i i was on firefox i've been using firefox for probably a decade or something
Starting point is 00:51:21 like that just i've only used used Firefox for the most part. Yeah. So it was an interesting switch. The only thing I really don't care for with brave is that I noticed on some sites, like I think it's, what is this one? A bit tube and library.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Actually, when I watch any videos on there, sometimes it has this like magenta looking overview, like my video recorded wrong so it's not displaying videos going on with your videos it's not my videos because i opened firefox and look at it because i'm like wait did my did ffmpeg something up no it's just it was the browser and it's fixed now or it's not we're doing it now but I was like what is happening yeah cuz I noticed that I was looking at your videos on brave I'd switch the 1080p and it's like oh it's magenta now but I that's the only
Starting point is 00:52:14 channel I've seen it on maybe it happens on someone else's I haven't tested it out but yeah so if it's working if it does that to you too then okay maybe it is my video, but why? Because on Firefox it doesn't do that at all. Well, no, it still could be a Brave problem then. Hmm. What? This is interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, that's... Because it's just based on Chromium, so there's no reason for it to be doing that. Yeah. Like it would be one thing if it was just some completely new web engine but it's just Chromium. I don't know. Yeah and here yeah I opened a video on library and yeah it looks like it's... It looks like the Predator aliens. Wait, it happens on Library as well? Yeah, Library and BitTube. Huh.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah, I never watch Library on the website, so I've never seen that one. That is weird. I haven't managed to get the desktop at some of the troubleshooting stuff and the server always quits on me and I tried messing with some of the, I think it was the socket stuff or I forget what, but I tried doing some of the troubleshooting and I still cannot get the library application for desktop to work. Huh. Um, I'm not sure, because I just installed the AUR package and it works fine. Yeah, I installed it from the AUR, but it always just says that the daemon craps
Starting point is 00:53:55 out on me. Hmm. I think there's also an app image. You could try that. I don't know. I will try, but I don't know. I will try, but I can't even watch library except on the website. Wait, is it just 1080p videos that do it?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Because I know you, because you upload in 1080p, it would get synced to library in 1080p. I know it doesn't happen when I watch your videos in 720. So. Huh. I know it doesn't happen when I watch your videos in 720 so huh I'm gonna watch one of your videos right now my videos are all in 1080 so oh so it's probably gonna do the same thing
Starting point is 00:54:35 maybe I don't know let's find out nope you're just as normal colored as always huh I don't know it's just me just as normal colored as always. Huh. I don't know. It's just me.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's just my videos. Is it your encoding settings or something? I don't know. Maybe it is FFmpeg. Maybe. Hmm. This is a mystery. It's a good thing that not everyone is using Brave. Yeah. Well, to be a good thing that not everyone is using Brave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Well, to be fair, you don't really need to watch the videos in 1080 anyway. Yeah. Because of YouTube's awful compression, it's kind of pretty much the same. What else do we have? Yeah, I don't even... I can't even edit on this 16 gigs of RAM, an i7 on this ThinkPad. I can't even video edit without the internal temp going up to 100 degrees Celsius, and I actually got to the point where I had to hard reset because my entire system was so
Starting point is 00:55:40 overheated that it just crapped out on me. It's like, I can't even video edit on this thing. Yeah, I have been noticing that your voice is cutting out a bit anytime you touch anything on that computer. Yeah. My goal is to get a good desktop put together. I mean, like a legit gaming desktop. Not like super expensive, but I wanted something that i can actually do a little bit of gaming on because i bought some games from on steam like a year or more ago that i have no computers that can actually run them
Starting point is 00:56:15 so i'm really irritated by that so i want to get an actual desktop setup and i figured okay arch linux on a desktop that's super powered then I can actually stream the way I want to stream because I can't even look at my external monitor if I'm streaming. I actually have to use my ThinkPad's monitor otherwise it craps out on me and it hates it and OBS is
Starting point is 00:56:40 like all your RAM are belong to us. So I need a new laptop. I mean, a new desktop. I'm surprised OBS is functioning as well as it does on your system if that's how much it's struggling. Because OBS was a pain on my laptop and that was
Starting point is 00:56:56 my laptop's not even that bad, but Yeah, I don't know how it works well enough on a stream if I use only my ThinkPad display. But the minute I put it on my external monitor and with that resolution, with my Yeti mic, with my Logitech webcam, and streaming in general, it's just like nah nah bro can't handle that yeah yeah i tried messing with it live on a stream once and it was it was not good i'm surprised that uh you're willing to do live coding because live coding is not something that i am even going to touch. Live coding?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, like actually messing with your script on a stream. Oh. Because you see how bad I am doing it just like a regular video. Doing that live is going to get even worse. I usually get sometimes I get people that... So one thing I do love about it, though, is like oh i'm working on this thing or i'm trying to figure out how to do this thing and then people are just like just try this okay i put that in my put that in my vmrc or i go and look for a resource or they recommend something to look into i love doing my live streams because people always
Starting point is 00:58:22 suggest the coolest shit or just like somebody has an easy fix to my problem. And it's something that was just buried in documentation. And so I'll add it to my VimRC. I'll test it out. Or I figure like, okay, this is cool. I got this thing now. But I also wanted it to do this. Oh, there's a suggestion.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So it's been cool to do it. And I'm not going to suddenly start messing with some critical files while I'm on a live stream or start doing... When I was working on my Flash script, I wasn't doing a lot of serious dev on it while I was live, but I just had it up to talk about it. But if I was actually going to do real coding, I wouldn't have it live because I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:59:03 nobody wants to watch an hour of Brian just going like this. I'm sure someone will watch it. That's creepy. Look, you heard what my mod was saying. He's just always in your live streams. Oh, man. I got some people that seem to show up every single time, which is cool because
Starting point is 00:59:25 some of them are becoming regulars and a lot of them are just really chill and cool to talk to yeah i've been seeing there's some people i recognize from like when i had like 100 200 subscribers and they're still here now it's like that's awesome some of them don't have the thing youtube does now i don't know if you've seen this is if you've had a sub that's been around for like a couple of months it'll have a little icon next to their name but only yeah it only does that if they have their subscribers or their subscriptions public um and also shows you like the comments that you um that you heart the most so whoever like you've actually hearted the most they'll show up with like special icon as well but there's if you obviously don't have your
Starting point is 01:00:11 subscriptions public that won't show up so i'll still notice those names like oh i recognize you you've been around for a long time haven't you even i don't really recognize the exactly why i recognize them like oh i know who you are you've been around since the start haven't you that's awesome you're still here that's actually a pretty cool feature mmm it's so does that mean that are cool but hey it can happen sometimes does that mean you're gonna heart all my comments so I can pop up at the top of all your videos i could do that i really like that uh it's really weird for me because i i watch you know i watch your videos distra tube chris titus
Starting point is 01:00:53 luke everybody a lot of big people in the scene i'm always watching their videos so i can learn more but then when i have like 6k subs yeah and then like when i when i watch when i watch people's channels and then i see like on your channel or on somebody else's and i see like somebody mentioned my name i'm like that's weird why are you talking about me it's like i'm i'm over there you're 5k you're a little bit over there but i'm like way down there it's like oh this interesting. The weird one for me was when DT subscribed to my channel. I think I had 300 subs at the time. And I made a video that didn't do very well. And then DT subscribed and gave me words of encouragement.
Starting point is 01:01:40 That's awesome. I've been watching you for so long. And that's one of the things I like about DT he's he's really really active in the community he like I assume that he knows who basically every Linux creator is at this point because he'll just show up in random places he's on like what 50 60 thousand subs I remember how much he has and he'll still pop up in the comment section for people who have basically nothing that's really cool of him i did watch his video recently about the um like a youtube channel review for that other linux creator and thankfully i'm doing some of the stuff he already
Starting point is 01:02:18 recommended which is nice but it was really cool of him to like review somebody's channel and like give him constructive advice on how to actually make more out of it. Yeah. I, that's the sort of content I really enjoy now. I don't know if you've experienced this yourself, but the more videos I make, the less I really want to watch this like videos that are in the same sort of style that I make. I don't know if you've really experienced that yourself but as I make more videos on like Linux tutorials
Starting point is 01:02:50 software showcases things like that I don't really want to go and watch like Luke's video on that or DT's video on that because it feels like I could just do that same video myself I don't know if you've experienced that yourself At this point I think I could just do that same video myself. I don't know if you've experienced that yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:09 At this point, I think I like just to see like what Luke's doing sometimes, but I don't really, I still watch a lot of DT stuff for like actually getting a good intro to like a new program or something. And I like watching your stuff for like, oh, you talked about VimWiki. What did I miss? did I miss something is there
Starting point is 01:03:26 something in there that I can now add to mine because people see different programs or different parts of the software differently or they do different things with it so like I really like my VimWiki setup I've done a couple videos on it and I was talking with some of their discord people about it but I wanted to see like did you do anything
Starting point is 01:03:41 cool with it that I haven't done and then can I add that and actually yeah it was I think't done? And then can I add that? And actually, yeah, it was, I think the, actually, I forget what it was, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:49 it couldn't have been that cool. I don't remember if it was like, you gave me that idea or I posted on a comment to give you the idea of doing like the, the toggleable check boxes with the special icons you can set in your VimRC. I remember. Didn't mention that. Yeah. I didn't mention that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I didn't say that myself. So maybe it was my comment to you then. Maybe. I don't know. I like VimWiki. So if you make a video on VimWiki, I'm going to watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:18 That's fair. Yeah. I don't really, I still watch everyone's videos. It's just a matter of sometimes they might be talking about a program. I don't really care about in which case i won't watch it because i have a lot of subs and a lot of different things besides computers and linux yeah so uh i'm kind of trying to be a little bit more selective with what i spend my time on because i got so many other things going on i got a side business and going back to school i work full time i got my own system to develop
Starting point is 01:04:43 and learn so i got i got way too much crap going on to just waste away on youtube so i'm kind of selective but it's not like i made a video on this or i could so i'm not going to watch yours um i guess that's it's part of the reason for me but i don't know it's it's just a weird feeling where i'm like if i'm if i'm making linux videos i obviously will still check in and see what people are doing. But because I'm making the videos, it just feels weird for me to go and actually then watch the videos.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't know. It's a weird feeling. Maybe it's because I've done nearly 300 videos at this point. Actually, I got about a third of that at this point. Sometimes I like... I remember you did, you did a self roast,
Starting point is 01:05:26 but I like to go back sometimes and just look at my old videos and just be like, Yeah, we've both grown quite a bit since the start of our channels. Yeah, some of them I'm just like, you're not really talking about much here. I'm just, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna turn that video private because that doesn't need to be in the world anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I just let it all sit out there. People can go back and watch the terrible content if they want. But then I'll get comments on those videos and people are like, this is still really helpful. Did we talk about the same video? Did we talk about the same video? I heard about a video... I think it was one of my first videos on NeoVim, where I was talking about how it actually makes a pretty good IDE if you put the effort into it.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And that still gets tons of views, and I hate that video. I actually liked that you could do a lot of that stuff with NeoVim, I actually liked that you could do a lot of that stuff with NeoVim, but I tried setting up COC and a couple things to make it more IDE-like, and it was just too much for me. For what I'd use Vim for, if I'm going to do... So I mainly do a couple different types of programming. If I'm going to do R and something in the sphere of R stuff, I'm going to use RStudio.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I did get a setup going where I had NeoVim. I could actually just send like a line or a code block to a terminal split in Vim and have it execute my code because I'm running R in that Vim hosted terminal. So I got all that working and the plots would output and display on like another I3 window and cool.
Starting point is 01:07:04 So I can actually do R development in there but just some of the tooling in R studio is just so good at this point it's meant for R that it's like if I'm going to be doing R it's going to be in R studio they got Vim keys that's good enough for me at this point if I'm going to be messing with my website
Starting point is 01:07:20 it's going to be in VS code maybe minor edits in Vim but it's going to be in VS code because those things are just really, really good for that. Vim key is all up in this business, but still, I use Vim for everything else, but those two domains, it's in
Starting point is 01:07:35 those two IDEs. I used to be a VS Code user back when I was modifying. Back when I did my last web dev job I was a VS Code user at the time and whenever I do web development now I do use Vim because that's mainly what my setup is made for. When it comes to doing compiled languages I can see why you'd want to do an IDE or when you want to do something that's as data heavy as
Starting point is 01:08:08 R Markdown, you'd want to do like RStudio. That makes perfect sense. But for me, when it's a compiled, when it's a interpreted language, like obviously Bash, Python, JavaScript, things like that, I think they do work really well in Vim because you're not really... you don't need to create some sort of weird method where you're executing the code within Vim. Especially with like JavaScript development. If you're doing JavaScript development you're going to have a web browser open when you save it because of how magical web development is now it's just going to automatically reload the page. Obviously if you're doing like just straight, it's just going to automatically reload the page.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Obviously, if you're doing just straight HTML, it's not the case. But if you're messing with NPM, then all of that stuff is just magically handled in the background and it's kind of editor independent, I guess I would say. I haven't even messed with NPM or any of that stuff very much. I'm kind of just... I got a static site. I can do a little bit of JavaScript. I'm having to actually... Lord save me.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I'm actually having to learn Angular 1 for work. Oh! So you guys can all pity me, but I'm learning Angular 1 for work. I would rather have just done something like Vue if I was going to start with a framework, but I got a little bit of vanilla JS, a little bit of the ES6 stuff, but most of what I've done with it
Starting point is 01:09:31 is really just for work things. I don't have much of anything on my site besides maybe a little bit of C3JS for like a chart for my blog posts. But beyond that, it's all like static and I like it and you raise a good point about um using vim for the front end but yeah i should just switch over yeah well we all use t-popes plugins for tag stuff so might as well might as well did you uh check out luke's website for that brief period when it looked really really bad i don't think so i think early on like i i came into his stuff around i want to say
Starting point is 01:10:14 late last year so a lot of his really early stuff was before i was even watching him no i mean his website yeah there's one point where he decided to change the CSS for his website and it looked horrendous. I don't know what he was thinking that day. He's fixed it now. I don't know if you've checked it recently. It looks considerably better. But at one point it was like purple and I don't know what was going on with it. It was like in a weird rounded square.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Oh, yeah. It looks fine now. Like there's nothing wrong with it now. But he was messing with the CSS for a while and yeah, it wasn't good. It was definitely not good. I grabbed some of his front end stuff because I wanted a website that was already structured some of that way. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:09 So I do remember the purple square. Yeah. But he actually, it looks like he made his background the same color mine is now. Because I went with a darker background because I'm still keeping Grovebox and I think he actually put more Grovebox stuff in here. Certainly looks like it that's for sure i just realized i have a video of you and i should have been showing that there we go now people can actually see the website i have this i have these magical scenes working in uh
Starting point is 01:11:36 obs and then i just forget to use them oh this is a beautiful picture down the bottom here. The Uniboomer picture right at the bottom. Yeah, I don't even know what's going on with all that stuff. There you go. Now people can see it massively. Yeah, I actually need to do... I have some... I keep track of all my desired changes from all my repos in GitHub issues, like any developer should.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I just forget about that. But, yeah, I found this really cool program that actually is built with Ruby, GHI. GitHub has their own command line stuff, and people have said, yeah, but GitHub has their command line but then what GHI lets me do that GitHub doesn't do is I can actually pull down
Starting point is 01:12:29 all the text I can see the whole list of all the comments the labels I can add labels remove labels change labels I can do all that stuff everything I want to do with GHI not all of that can be done with the GitHub command line and there's a couple of tools that people recommended but none of them do everything
Starting point is 01:12:45 GHI can do. And it's this very simple workflow, because I can just do GHI, open, it opens up a Vim buffer, I can add the title, some description, it uses GitHub flavor markdown still, because it just gets sent to GitHub, and that works. And, you know, save it,
Starting point is 01:13:01 close it, there you go. There's a new issue on your repo. I just go to that directory, whatever the repo is. I could just do fuzzy finder, bam. And then I can easily just set up mass amounts of issues for things I want to follow up on. So what I did is when I was watching your video, when you reviewed my Flash script, is every time you or I saw a comment on the video
Starting point is 01:13:21 that brought up a really good piece of feedback, I always had a terminal open with GHI, I'm just like, add the issues. I was really disappointed when I checked out GitHub CLI and it didn't have a way to add comments to issues or like just do really much of anything to issues besides just create one. It's like this is a CLI tool for GitHub and third-party tools do this better. So I'm sticking with GHI because one of the cool things is this is one of the things
Starting point is 01:13:52 that just really blew my mind with Linux that I really, really love, or just Bash in general, is things like Task Warrior, which I'm actually going to be getting a lot more back into. Like I was into it for a little bit, but I'm actually going to do
Starting point is 01:14:04 a little bit more with it now, is that now that I got more familiar with Bash, is that you can easily set up scripts to do a lot of the stuff or a lot of the footwork for these things. Or just if say you're moving over a bunch of tasks to TaskWarrior and you want to set up your contexts, your tags, you want to set up stuff to like open URLs with task open, you want to do all stuff to open URLs with task open, you want to do all that setup, you could easily just say,
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm just going to write a single batch script with all the stuff in multiple lines, use Vim, copy some stuff, move some text blocks around, multiple cursors, and just type out all your issues, all your fields, and then just execute that one script, and you're done. Just all like a big batch processing of stuff. Like I really love that. You could do that with the bash for TaskWarrior or for GHI. Like just set up a script to run GHI,
Starting point is 01:14:52 set up multiple issues at once. Bam. Okay. TaskWarrior, the name rings a bell, but I think I've looked at that one just yet. Let's see if I can share. I wonder if I can share my screen. I don't know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Does it work? Yeah, it might be a bit easier if you send a link to me and then I can bring it up on my other scene so we don't break it. Ugh. Yeah, let's not try this. Let's just do it the easy way. If you can send me a link, that'll be the easiest.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Or maybe send me a picture or something, I don't know. Oh, wait. Oh, my audio's broken. How did that even happen? How did you do that? Um, okay, we're gonna stop for just a moment so I can fix the audio. Oh, video. So, um, what I noticed, oh yeah so um what i i noticed basically what happened on my end was that brian changed something on his side and then my pulse audio decided to move the uh
Starting point is 01:16:13 the discord audio from being my internal speakers to being my hdmi arc lead hacks or you've managed to get root access to my computer through changing your discord scenes rm-rf forward slash no preserve root bye brody fucking pulse audio is shit
Starting point is 01:16:38 I see why people don't like it now I got a screenshot here. It's like a simple task. Seeing if I can figure out how to send this to you. If you just drop it in the Discord chat. Wait, do you have a... You don't have a GUI file manager, do you? I do not, but thankfully...
Starting point is 01:17:00 Discord comes with one. It doesn't open. Yeah, so it'll open up. Actually, I'm not surprised you don't have a GUI file manager, to be honest. I do not. I use LF a ton, but there are just times when having that GUI option
Starting point is 01:17:20 is just more convenient. Are we counting LF and Ranger and VIFM as GUI file managers? No, that's what I mean. It's convenient. I like my terminal file manager, but there's times when it's convenient to have something like SpaceFM or PCManFM,
Starting point is 01:17:39 especially when you're working with web browsers. Yeah, I actually, I think there's only been one occasion where I was actually like, I'd really just like to drag and drop right now. And I think then I even found the solution anyways, like there was a button to open up a file explorer to grab a file. So I honestly have not been missing it at all, but I could see, I could see like it would come in handy the one time you actually do need it. So it's some sort of task creation app.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, Task Warrior is really cool because there's also a lot, there's a big community around it. So there's a lot of other people's add-ons that you can do with it. It's a command line based task management system and it uses a single json file to hold all the stuff but you don't really edit or deal with the json but you can get your data because
Starting point is 01:18:32 it's in a json format so that's cool but on the right is this giant uh just like a list of the file and you can actually manually edit these files by just doing task edit you can run the program by just saying task and it will list out all your tasks. Task add adds a task, launches commands like that. But then you can also schedule them, delay them so they don't pop up in your task list. You can give them certain amounts of priority.
Starting point is 01:18:57 You can change how things are calculated for priority. You can add notes and comments to your tasks. You can do, the only-on I have for it is something called task open, where you can add an annotation to the task, which is just like a comment. But instead of opening a text field or text buffer and seeing your comment, if you set it to be like a URL or a file on your system or a URL on the internet, you can actually open up the URL or the file by doing task open and the number of the task. And because it's in the command line completely, you can script on it, which is really cool. And so I've done some like custom functions where you can do
Starting point is 01:19:38 task add, and then you can say the name of the task, the tags you add to it. I just do like TA, say the name of the task, the tags you add to it. I just do like TA, you know, add a field space, add a field or whatever. And it was doing stuff like that. But one of the cool things I really liked about it is that it also comes with reports, like terminal based graph reports of your tasks. So you could do like a burndown, you can do a burndown for like a day, a week, a month, or a year, I think. There's a bunch of cool different options that come with it, but it's really cool because it also has contexts. So like from top to bottom, you can have a context, which is like work, home, school.
Starting point is 01:20:15 And then you have underneath that, you have projects. So at home, you have like a project of you're building a shed from scratch. Usually you need your supplies, you need your plans, you need stuff. Then you also have another project. So you have different projects. And then under each project, you have tasks. And under each task, you can have comments,
Starting point is 01:20:32 annotations, files that open up. You can have task dependencies. And having dependencies raises the priority of the dependencies versus the main task, et cetera. It gets pretty deep. I went a little bit deep into this a while ago. Yeah, I'm
Starting point is 01:20:50 honestly just a big geek for task management systems in general. I love task management stuff. I designed the whole documentation and task management systems for some of the stuff that we do at my office for my development team. I go really nerdy for that stuff taskware is really cool it's uh i've fun i will probably make more videos about it i've made one before i kind of got a little bit away from it because a
Starting point is 01:21:15 lot of the stuff i'm doing right now can just it's just easily easy one-off surface level stuff but i'm getting to the point where i have so many different things going on like i got my lit my trello board i'm back on trello briefly because I just got so much stuff I'm trying to study and keep track of, or that I want to keep track of because I need, like, I want to study these 50 different things for Linux. I just don't want to forget about, oh yeah, I wanted to look at that. So I have a Trello board for that, but that's not in the command line. So we got to change that. So i have decided i'm going to get back into task warrior because i could easily just pick a different context put it in there i
Starting point is 01:21:51 could have all my stuff at home put it in there etc and i'm for my business now that's picking up again too i gotta put that in there and it's scriptable so that works. And yeah, I was originally just using Taskle, because it's just a Kanban board with key bindings in the terminal, and I really love using that, and it's really good to just get it done. But for managing a bunch of different spheres of
Starting point is 01:22:17 content, Taskware can just do a lot better. And I figured, like, yeah, there's some initial growing pain with not using Vim key bindings in like an Ncursus 2e, but I can get over that. You know, you do it enough, you get used to it and you can script on it
Starting point is 01:22:34 so you can make it friendlier to you over time. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to be moving back to Task Warrior soon and making videos about it. I might have to check that out. I've never been much of a, I guess, a task management person. I find that when I start doing task management, I end up wasting more time trying to optimize my task management than actually doing the tasks.
Starting point is 01:23:00 That was one of the things that irked me with Task Warrior initially is that I wasn't as, That was one of the things that irked me with Task Warrior initially is that I wasn't as, I'm not like super skilled, but like, I feel a lot more comfortable on the command line and with Bash now more than ever. So I feel like the learning curve and just the time suck would be much more minimized now than it was then. And that it would be better this time. But it was the same for me. But, you know, I have, I'm medically diagnosed with ADHD. But it was the same for me. But, you know, I have, I'm medically diagnosed with ADHD. So I have learned throughout my life, just ways of handling that and dealing with it, and to leverage the strengths of it in certain areas.
Starting point is 01:23:31 But one thing I can't do is manage tasks effectively very well. So I'm all over task management systems. Initially, it was all like, it was like a bullet journal, or it was just post-it notes everywhere. Or I send myself ridiculous amounts of emails to myself to like okay i did that task delete the email like i have my ways of keeping track of my life and it works because i never forget anything but i have to stick to my systems and test warrior is definitely going to be a good one it sounds like it will be hopefully hopefully we can only hope, can't we?
Starting point is 01:24:08 Otherwise, you're gonna have to find something else and then spend more time trying to find the perfect task management. Instead, start doing task management to find the perfect task management and get nothing done. That was basically getting into Linux in general in the beginning. A task management system to figure out how to do a task management system in this new computer system. Great. I kind of turned that into the theme of my channel, though. Because I just test out random software and I'm like, I'm going to do a video on this. And that's what I was going to do anyway.
Starting point is 01:24:39 So it's just like, I'm not really wasting time. Yeah, I think where I'm heading myself is more of, here's what I'm not really wasting time. Yeah, I think where I'm heading myself is more of here's what I'm doing, why I'm doing it. I changed this to this now because of this. Here's a live example. Here's how I'm configuring it. Here's why I did it.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Here's how I did it. And then I definitely do have a couple areas where I'm more niche than some of the other YouTubers like Luke, DT, you or others where I'm more niche than some of the other YouTubers like Luke DTU or others, where I talk a lot about our and I have a whole I have a couple series where I have like a 20 plus video series on just things you can do with our markdown. And I do our package reviews, I have a published package myself. And just all things about our and then because of Luke, I got into LaTeX, but I went like really deep into some of the documentation of that. I took like a week off of work and I was
Starting point is 01:25:31 just the whole time, I am just reading LaTeX documentation, building my own template files. I have like a repo for my template. So like I have something set up for like writing a bare bones academic research paper slash thesis. I know that theses are like, they have have something set up for like writing a bare bones academic research paper slash thesis. I know that theses are like, they have their own templates to use, but like, it's a really good kind of jack of all trades template at this point, but like reviewing the packages I put into it,
Starting point is 01:25:57 how they work, why they work and like what I'm doing with it. So a little bit deeper into LaTeX than what Luke did, because he kind of just, here's how to do basic document outline, some Vim mac doing with it. So a little bit deeper into LaTeX than what Luke did because he kind of just, here's how to do basic document outline, some Vim macros for it. And so here's how to make a custom CV where... Yeah, you can make a client channel just on LaTeX
Starting point is 01:26:17 if you wanted to put the time into it. So that's one of the cool things, like what DT said about a niche within a niche within a niche is that, okay, yeah, Linux is a really, you know, it can be a big, but still small niche. But that one guy was just like really pigeonholing himself. I'm trying to like, yeah, I'm really into like Linux stuff. But here's what I'm doing with Linux. But also here's R. And also here's LaTeX.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And then I have my other channel for my business that I should stop neglecting so much. But we'll see about that. Yeah, well, that's where I... I'm kind of sitting in that general Linux niche, but I like to branch out of that. I'll occasionally do, here's what's happening with my uni stuff, or here is what's happening with like my uni stuff or here is what's happening
Starting point is 01:27:07 well here's my thoughts on this Windows thing I kind of want to or and like how it relates to like Linux I guess so you kind of branch out a bit more and you can bring in those people who might not be exactly interested in your like more general content like the more niche stuff you do but if you branch out into a bit a bit of a niche they might find like your content there and be like oh okay I like this maybe maybe want to try like some of the more niche-y R Markdown stuff or maybe you want to try looking at some random application for viewing mastodon posts or
Starting point is 01:27:47 something like that yeah that's that is one thing that i i've been trying to do is i don't really care for reddit too much just because sometimes people can get really can get really aggressive on there but one thing i was just like, okay, I'm just going to deal with it is post my content in relevant subreddits just for like the traffic. And it actually has worked out decently for me. I don't really get any sort of negativity yet. I'm expecting it. But I haven't gotten anything major yet. But what I really get is on Twitter, for our stuff, there's a great hashtag and some good like bots that pick up all the posts i get a lot of people from the r community that
Starting point is 01:28:31 follow my stuff for my r content and that's one of the reasons i'm going back to school was actually that people who do r a lot of them are like phds so i was like well i'm over here with not even a four-year degree i think i'm'm going to go back to school. But it's just inspiring. But I post in these content areas. So R, LaTeX, and command line bash, those subreddits. I did notice you were in R slash command line, yeah. Yeah, just to get some of the traffic.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I try to not post every day or spam. Or if I make a video that just, oh, I did some bash, but really the thing is this thing, I'm not going to post that into our command line because I don't want to piss off some people. So I'm just kind of like, yeah, this is directly about bash. I wrote a bash script. Here's the video in our command line or bash, and I'll cross post that way.
Starting point is 01:29:26 But I'm trying to get the Reddit traffic, but not get flamed. If you're ever interested in pissing off the r-command line, guys, say anything positive about JavaScript or Python. That's the quickest way to do it. JavaScript and Python for command line applications? Yes. Python is still fairly popular for command line stuff,
Starting point is 01:29:47 but there's more JavaScript stuff is popping up. And then you have all the people being like, NPM is a massive security hole and they will just roast you if you post anything about JavaScript in there. I did see that about NPM being the security risk and that about Deno taking over like some of the slack on that
Starting point is 01:30:05 because of that security risk. I don't think I've heard that one. I kind of just, I heard about the security risk, didn't really look much into it myself. So do you have any, like what's actually going on with that? Well, I'm not a front-end developer,
Starting point is 01:30:21 so I wasn't looking too carefully at it, but I think it was something about how when NPM installs certain things, it basically has free access to do whatever. So if you install something malicious from NPM, it's basically going to have free access to do whatever. And that, okay, well, that means that NPM better have their shit together and not have anything malicious in there, which we know is 100% foolproof.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah, well, there are Bitcoin miners on NPM. Yeah, so... But the creator of NPM is the one who's making Deno, I believe, which is, you know, here's what I did. I made NPM. It's used by so many people that you can't just change it. So I'm going to make a new thing, and it's going to be better. I know that a lot of people are migrating to npx because that's supposed to be better because it doesn't need like root access
Starting point is 01:31:11 to just install like a local package which is yeah i don't think npm needs yeah i don't even know that that existed so yeah npm i can see why it's a security hole because there are bitcoin miners and it does basically need root access to download a package that's going to be in a local directory oh you have a cat oh yeah i have three you have three do you i i noticed one in a live stream and i think i noticed one in another video i didn't know you had a third one. Yeah, I liked it in my live stream or if it was the live stream or one of my videos, but somebody was like, that's cool, dude, but please post more about the cats.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Just make a cat channel. Yeah, I guess. I mean, some of those are doing really well. Wouldn't it be funny if you upload a cat video that did better than anything you've ever made? How would you feel about that? That's like one of those head-hanging moments. You're just like,
Starting point is 01:32:08 I guess every day is going to be cat-er day on this channel now. Hey, whatever brings in the views, I guess. Yeah. Get that monetization. You're getting closer. What are you at? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:22 700 now? Well, looking at my status bar, it tells me I'm set 643. Okay, 643. Yeah. It's been nice, though. The last week, I went up over 100. And then in like the last day or two, it's been another 40. So it looks like it's picking up.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Well, I know why. It's because of the window manager stuff. Actually, that video doesn't... It's gotten more traffic than the last four videos, but that's not saying much. It actually hasn't gone super... Well, for my current level of things, it hasn't gone viral at all for me. Have you tried to work out where they're coming from?
Starting point is 01:33:02 Have you got anything? Most of my analytics are from, say I get a lot of traffic from Reddit. So I'm hoping that just some of those people come from Reddit and then stick around by subscribing. But I can look. Because I think most of mine obviously comes from YouTube traffic now, but I get a lot of people who come over from,
Starting point is 01:33:28 I actually have people coming over from Twitter as well so I will post in like the Linux hashtag and then there's like a Linux bot that reposts everything that's in the Linux hashtag which is a great way to abuse the system so that's yes that's that's what I do I take advantage of that one and then the one for R because they they repost everything to everybody who's following them. So I get a lot of traffic from Twitter as well. And obviously, because I post all my videos in my Discord, anyone who's in my Discord comes from there as well.
Starting point is 01:33:59 So actually, I narrowed it down to just the last seven days. So it's just my live stream and then the window manager video. And it looks like for traffic, it's YouTube search and browse features. And then for external traffic, it's Reddit and Google search. I think my DuckDuckGo is actually higher than Google search for me, which is weird. My Google search for this week is 35.6% and DuckDuckGo is 4%. Jeez. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Yeah, this is going to be interesting content. Let's see what mine is. Let's see if we can find it quickly. I only use DuckDuckGo, so come on. You're doing me dirty, man. Yeah, man. What are you doing? Where's my analytics there?
Starting point is 01:34:57 Analytics. Where's it under reach yeah yeah okay cool so oh no google search is way higher i was wrong um so yeah most of my content comes from my browse feature, then YouTube search channel page suggested videos. For external it's... Why do I get... Who's posting my content on Reddit? Why am I getting Reddit traffic? I don't post on Reddit. There's actually a subreddit directly for Luke Smith, but there's like barely anybody
Starting point is 01:35:23 in it. But every single day they got your videos and Luke's videos hooked up to an automatic posting. So whenever you post, it goes to the same Luke Smith subreddit. And now it's a, yep. Yep. There's, there's not a lot of people in it. It never gets any comments, but you're automatically posted in there. I'm finding this. I didn't know this existed. Yeah, I follow it just because, you know, I thought it was funny. And I want to see if anybody posts any comments.
Starting point is 01:35:53 But I suggested to the mods to add NixCast to it. Because they're, like, people who put out content like Luke or you. So... And because Luke never uploads, I'm the only thing on here. Yeah, it's all Brody. This is awesome. I didn't know this was a thing. Yeah, there's like 93 members. I should promote this.
Starting point is 01:36:20 It's like you got Luke Smith, you got the discount Luke Smith. That is hilarious. How did I not know this was a thing? But it's funny because I have that subreddit in my Newsboat URLs. And so every time it pops up with Luke Smith, I'm like, ah, Luke posted another video. Oh, it's just that Brody guy. That's awesome. Okay, that explains the reddit traffic because i thought maybe i would just get
Starting point is 01:36:49 the odd person who just posted a video somewhere that probably happens as well i did notice on i think r slash vim someone asked they took a screenshot from one of my videos and asked how i was doing the color highlighting. And I knew it was mine because I recognized the wallpaper I had. Take a screenshot of the video. Don't provide the video. Or, I don't know, ask in the comment section of the video. That also would help.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Oh, jeez. Like, I respond to basically every comment. Just ask in the video, I'll answer your question. It's good for the algorithm, we're gonna respond, but our user base is small. Absolutely, yeah. I don't get why people don't respond to every comment. Obviously if you have tons of comments, that's one thing, but if you're a relatively small channel it's what i think i spend maybe half an hour every day going through replying to comments or just checking what's happening with the channel it doesn't take that much time there's this one um youtuber i follow maybe you follow him too uh bisquit bisquit the name rings a bell but i don't think so he's uh i think he's
Starting point is 01:38:09 swedish or finnish but um he posts a lot of stuff he does primarily c++ coding a lot of it's just over my head but it's it's just interesting and i like watching his videos just because they're entertaining but he literally will respond to every single comment and like itemizes them like he has a he goes through them and responds to everyone and i think he's he's got a good large subscriber base this is the one we're talking about here i think he has like a mario icon oh maybe it's a different one maybe you changed it i don't know this one has a lot of c++ videos maybe this is it Maybe it's a different one. Maybe you changed it. I don't know. This one has a lot of C++ videos.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Maybe this is it. B-I-S-Q-W-I-T. Yes. Okay. Oh, yeah. He changed the icon. Yeah, Bisquit. He's got 123K subs, and he still replies to every single person. Jeez. Oh, he's got 123k subs and he still replies to like every single person geez oh he's
Starting point is 01:39:08 got multiple channels too he's got four other channels don't Jesus this dude is doing it bible with biscuit biscuit plays biscuit extras geez okay yeah uploading daily videos is enough content for me I can barely get enough videos to do daily i have to shoot like a ton of them yeah like i got other things to do i really am not as not that busy right now because i don't have to go to class because classes are still canceled they're canceled to the end of semester at this point. I didn't go to them anyway.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I'll just do stuff. It's all computer practice. I can just do it online. They cancelled school here till the end of the year. Oh, yeah. Well, you guys are like a million cases. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Yeah. Well, that's because America sucks, but... What was I saying? Right. No, I actually don't remember. Alright, no, I'm not that busy. So right now, because everyone's already stocked up for the apocalypse,
Starting point is 01:40:20 no one's really buying food, so I'm not really working much. So I've got plenty of time to do stuff dang people are still shopping here like crazy geez okay you guys have a bit of a different culture plus we're opening back up now i like how you use the the euphemism culture yeah it is instead of just people here special kind of something they are a bit of special kind of something look I do enjoy you guys gun culture it is nice guns are fun but
Starting point is 01:40:53 some people take it a bit far like you don't need 40 guns that's too many how many hands do you have you don't need an RPG okay have your assault rifle maybe but or just your like larger magazines I don't maybe but or you're just you're like larger magazines i don't care but you don't need like an rpg or a tank come on now but it does sound fun doesn't it i mean i'd want to roll around in a tank
Starting point is 01:41:17 just imagine that cover of it just they see me rolling in my tank people think it's actually way harder to get a gun in australia than it really is like we have a not a massive hunting culture but it is relatively big and we have like a lot of animals that are obviously worth hunting like we have we have a pig problem, we have a kangaroo problem, and it's very, like, if you have, like, a legitimate reason to get a gun, it's very easy to get one here, as long as you don't have a criminal record, like, sport shooting, hunting, uh, rain shooting, any of those reasons will be enough to get you a gun, you just have to wait and it's expensive because we don't have many guns so the prices are obviously more yeah makes sense i've actually been meaning to get one myself just for home defense and like i remember something like you don't even want like a
Starting point is 01:42:17 handgun for home defense but you want something like a shotgun because the pellets are less likely to break through walls to you know go through and go into somebody else's house so you wanted to actually use a larger firearm than a handgun i didn't realize that was the reason you want a shotgun i thought it would be that it just takes less skill to actually hit someone with it especially in a tight space well i mean that's a factor too that factor but then also you get this the people who immediately like some people are afraid of dogs barking at you some people are afraid when they hear that yeah so that would definitely help now you definitely don't want a semi-auto you need the pump action if you're going to be doing
Starting point is 01:42:52 it for home defense yeah but yeah it was it was something i read somewhere about how just the because the size of the projectile that shotguns are less likely to break through walls and that it's an issue because you need to know what's through your target. And you don't always want to be firing a slug in the general direction of your neighbor's house. Yeah, no, that wouldn't be a good...
Starting point is 01:43:15 Well, even just in the general direction of someone's bedroom. Yeah. Because I remember seeing plenty of news stories about people who use handguns for home defense versus shotguns, and it ends up like some child gets hurt or killed I'm pretty sure you can't get a gun here for home defense which is interesting like if you have a gun in your house here you have to have it locked up in like basically just um what's the word it's pretty much a safe you have to have a gun safe for it you can't have this same here i think it's pretty much the same here i've i'm not too big on
Starting point is 01:43:54 on the stuff i don't know i haven't done my research because i haven't gotten close to buying one yet but when i do i will but if i remember like you need to have your handguns like locked up in a box with some sort of security closure so that children or other people cannot easily access it. But if you have an easy access system, use it for home defense, but you still need to have it under lock. I know that it's very state dependent here. We're pretty consistent with our gun laws across all of the states. Oh, we're not. Yeah, you can go to Texas.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Is it Texas you can go to texas and is it texas you can have open carry i think you know i think texas is open carry and then they have like a buy one i think they get like a buy one just a buy one get one free discount with like you buy a diamond ring you get a gun like celebrate your marriage buy a gun hey it's not the worst idea you gotta shoot some pigeons or something they threw it instead of giving them rice just shoot him with a shotgun or something. That'll work You gonna kill him? That's somewhere there pests somewhere. They are pests somewhere We've been going for quite a while now haven't we It's 11 30 a.m here or nearly 11 30. It's 7 here. Oh wow. She's asleep so I'm good.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Oh okay. Let's see so what was that um that other channel you were talking about? I briefly heard you mention it on a live stream. My other channel? So the other business you're working on. Oh so I've had a leather working business for a number of years i want to say probably maybe five years something something like that so i have a whole workshop in my house and i make and sell leather goods uh i have a shop on etsy i got like over almost 150 sales all five star ratings but i have a business where i create leather goods and i also perform at renaissance fairs not specifically renaissance fairs but i perform as a historical reenactor so it's less on the i dress up and look like an elf
Starting point is 01:45:58 and more of the i actually research history and dress as historical figures used to and inform the public on the way lives were at those times. And I focus on I did Scottish history and battle tactics. We were in this like militarized group where we would actually do battle formations as infantrymen using only Scottish Gaelic as the communication. So like you'd hear Scottish Gaelic and we would actually be doing military formations. you'd hear Scottish Gaelic, and we would actually be doing military formations. I did that for about three years, and then I joined a actual Viking guild, which does Viking historical reenactment from between 700 to 11 or 1200 AD, so the, pretty much the peak of the Viking age, and we go to these fairs, and I have a little setup where I'm, I'm building, I'm still new to the guild, so I'm still acquiring my display and my setup. But I do a little bit of a leather setup there
Starting point is 01:46:50 and describe Viking Age leather work. I've mentioned in some of my videos how I was actually researching leather work and doing my notes in LaTeX and Markdown and stuff. But it's a leather working business. And it's still active. I jacked my prices up because I wasn't really willing
Starting point is 01:47:04 to do a lot of hand sewing at the time. And if somebody was going to buy something, it was going to be worth my time to do it. So that and I also rolled free shipping into the price. But I just bought a sewing machine to ease production because the thing I dislike most is having to do a lot of the hand sewing. And so with that, I'm going to be able to ramp up production, drop prices and do more. But also I can do video with it. And some people really like the aesthetics of like watching leather work happen on video.
Starting point is 01:47:34 So I'm just going to try and like revive that channel a little bit. The channel only has like two videos on it. And if you search for Norseman Leatherworks on YouTube, you will see it, I think. I think it's the top suggested one. But that's the channel. And yeah, I make a variety of things. I do sometimes custom orders.
Starting point is 01:47:53 I've made knife sheaths. I've made Renaissance Fair armor, bags, wallets. I made my own wallet. I still use it. Card holders, belts, just a lot of the simple things until now i get my sewing machine i can do some more advanced if it takes a lot of sewing that is actually pretty cool yeah it's a good hobby that's paid for itself i've been doing it for about five years and i just reinvest most of the money i make with it into the business because i just like buying new
Starting point is 01:48:22 tools so it's kind of just like i have a cool business that really just helps me buy more shit for the business. So I don't really ever make any money from it. It's kind of just like, I don't have to spend my own money on the business. But I think by now I probably got like five grand invested in just tools, materials, raw materials and other stuff. Well, six now because I bought the sewing machine. But yeah. That is awesome. Yeah, I can't imagine the crossover between Vikings and Linux users is very high. Yeah, that's why I have, I already had a separate channel.
Starting point is 01:49:00 I just wanted to, I already had a separate business channel that I just neglected. And I made this one for specifically Linux and tech and software because i kind of just have so many weird eccentric interests that are in just completely different spheres that it's kind of hard to manage sometimes yeah like i really i really love tech and software and code and i've been like deep diving into that for over three years and just super into that. But I'm also into like data science and R and reporting and aesthetic documents and academia I'm getting into now. So that's like, that's why I'm going back to school for data science and data analytics. But then I also have the whole Uniboomer in a cabin type thing where I want to like grow my own food and live in a forest which is my our
Starting point is 01:49:45 our plan eventually is to do that but then i also have a business where i do like a physical craft and then i go and perform at renaissance fairs like there's no way of capturing all of this on one channel yeah you it would have to be a vlog channel and anything besides that it wouldn't work but if you wanted to give each of the different subjects the proper care they deserve, they do deserve different channels. I thought about doing some vlogs, but then I'm like, I just feel like that format is weird for me. Like, I just don't feel like I'd be good at doing vlogs when it comes to like informational, like here's what I did on Linux and here's how I did it. That's cool. If it's how i did it that's that's cool if it's for leather work it's just like look at me make the thing but um yeah i've talked with
Starting point is 01:50:32 my girlfriend about doing a vlog together on a separate channel i don't know if that's going to happen but i don't know how how will i do with it i think she'd do better than me she actually watches vlog channels i don't know really well i guess it would be uh kind of like just starting the regular linux stuff where it's it's very very much a growing experience the early stuff you're gonna look on you're gonna be proud of it when you make it and then you're gonna look back and like that was really bad all the cringe especially if you try to make a joke and you go back and like wow my comedic timing was not there. It was really bad.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Oh, that's my baseline. I did notice that since your earlier videos, you have actually decided to clean up your kitchen. Because in some of those early ones, the bench was just an absolute mess. Sometimes we do spring cleaning sometimes um yeah we kind of just uh but we're all working from home these days so it kind of just builds up really quickly and i get kind of lazy during the week so i just do it on the weekends and that's when i shoot my videos so sometimes it's clean sometimes it's not that is a good way to do it, isn't it? Yeah, I just kind of try to manage it
Starting point is 01:51:49 and do it on the weekends. Yeah, I just managed to frame my shot in a way that it looks like my room's clean. Because I live in a share house right now, so I don't really have the ability to record anywhere else. But if I just slightly move the webcam like Let's see. So we have my light sitting on
Starting point is 01:52:12 by a shelf there My desk is like a mess Like this side is Kind of just as bad You got one of the cool keyboards though. I do. Well, okay, to be fair, it's not actually that... it was kind of cheap. I like Scissor Switches.
Starting point is 01:52:33 It was a really cheap Scissor Switch keyboard. I know someone's gonna probably leave a thing in the comments saying Scissor Switch is garbage. I still don't care. But yeah, it's a... if anyone it it's a Kuga Vantar I like it it's nice because I've been using a laptop for so long I like the laptop style
Starting point is 01:52:54 switches yeah when I'm at work and because we still we all have laptops and dock stations I like, I don't like my laptop keys but I don't like the standard keyboard they give us in state service. Oh yeah, they probably just use a cheap Dell keyboard or something, isn't it? Like those ones you see like everywhere.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Yeah. They don't care about the keyboard. It's just a keyboard. Yes. So I bought a nice mechanical one and I forget the name and brand, but I saw some review on it. And it's got the nice clickety-clickety. I think it's got blue MX Blues. Can I just see that logo? I think I recognized it.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Oh, I have no idea what that is. Okay. But yeah, it's got that cool... If I ever switch to the Nord theme, which is what I would switch to if I didn't have Grovebox, is that this switches up to only blue, so I can get it like Arctic-looking. That actually is pretty cool. So I use that mostly at work just for comfort of typing
Starting point is 01:53:59 and have to just annoy everyone around me because I don't like them talking to me. Yeah, blues, I've used blues before but they're a bit of a problem for re- for- they're a bit of a problem for videos. Yeah, that's why for most of my videos for the channel I typically just use my ThinkPad keyboard and that's- I don't know if I can ever get away from ThinkPads because this keyboard on the X220 is just... It is the sweet spot of keyboards. It is perfect. I love it.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I will eventually get a ThinkPad. I keep telling myself I'm going to get one, but I'll eventually get one. It'll probably be a test machine. Yeah. I'll put like, I don't know, Void or something on it, whatever I want to mess with at the time. I got two X220s and they are pretty cheap. I think I got this, the i5 was like 80 bucks because I got a good deal on eBay. The i7 was a little pricier, but I got it with just like a 28 gigabyte hard drive, which
Starting point is 01:55:04 is just trash and then i just switched out the ram switch out the hard drive and i kind of swapped some parts between them but this thing like all together cost me like maybe a little over 200 bucks maybe that maybe less but for that and the amount of what it can do i I mean, I can't do really good streaming. I can stream. I can't do great streaming and I can't do any gaming on this, but everything else I want to do, it handles just fine.
Starting point is 01:55:33 And the keyboard is so nice. Plus it's like hefty enough that you could easily just bludgeon someone with this thing and the laptop would be fine. Oh yeah, for sure. That's like standard ThinkPad. I've gotten too used to working with Kdenlive at this point i couldn't go back to something that i couldn't properly uh or couldn't quickly encode on like i i've tried to do you probably noticed it throughout this podcast
Starting point is 01:56:00 i'm really bad at speaking so i have to cut my videos a lot and it's just easiest to do that in kate and live i was doing i tried to do some like jump cut stuff because sometimes i get little pauses and i was using open shot a little bit just because it was good enough just to do cuts yeah which is really all i was doing but But yeah, I'm thankful that somewhat I can speak decently. But sometimes I just, at this point, I just can't edit on this laptop or any of my laptops because it's just, they just can't handle it anymore. Even with everything else closed
Starting point is 01:56:41 and setting the nice level to negative 20 still doesn't even help. I know you can do cuts with ffm peg but not being able to see yeah you can but not being able to see where exactly you're cutting you have to have like a separate window to see exactly what you're cutting it's a bit of a mess and when i was just like really luke you edit this way because he said he does that that way. He doesn't edit. That's the point. He does sometimes.
Starting point is 01:57:09 And when he said when he does, he's using FFmpeg to edit his videos. I think the most I've ever seen him edit was his Arch Linux install, where he would cut out the waiting times. And that's all. I did set up some scripts for myself. If I was actually going to do FFmpeg, I could easily just have a window with MPV open and the video there. But I set up some scripts so that
Starting point is 01:57:32 instead of... Because FFmpeg likes to say your start and end time of your cut clip is in seconds. I don't want to have to do math, so I just made a simple script with some multiplication and bash and just I have minute, second, minute, second for start and stop. And I could easily just do my cuts that way.
Starting point is 01:57:48 And then the other script will just easily take the list of all the file names, which you could easily grab with LS. And just merge that way. So, I mean, it wouldn't be too horrible if all you're doing is making jump cuts. But, you know, sometimes it's just a graphical program can do it better. It's just, eh. Yeah, well, also
Starting point is 01:58:14 with the fact that I've also done... Actually, one of my viewers did work on something cool. I don't know if you've ever watched the end of one of my videos where I have the transition now into the thing where I'm showing the patron list. Someone actually worked at how to do that with ffmpeg and it is awesome so i actually would love to see that if i wanted to i would love to see that because i got my first patron myself oh nice yeah i'd like to see like how that works is it just like editing the the text into it or
Starting point is 01:58:46 what are you doing basically well what i'm doing in caden live is i have a background image and then i shrink my video to like fit inside of a little box and that hit the dudes managed to work out a way to do that in ffmpeg and i have no idea how he's done it i didn't i will need to ask him about the actual script um but yeah because well caden live is basically a front end for ffmpeg anyway so pretty much everything is a front end for ffmpeg i do like it yeah it's really powerful it's like image magic it's awesome and you can do lots of stuff with it if you want to put the effort into it yeah i do like the screencasts the between ffmpeg mame and image
Starting point is 01:59:35 magic this kind of stuff that you can do with that with media is just awesome yeah like my screenshots are great screen Screencasting is great. Audio recordings. And then getting into YouTube DL too, just yanking all that stuff out. Oh, it's just so good. I don't typically use YouTube DL too much. Oh, I use it all the time.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Yeah, I'm not as much of a terminal user as you are. I have the terminal there for a lot of stuff. Like when I'm trying to do serious work, I'll use it. But a lot of my other stuff, I'm happy to do in the web browser. I do a lot of stuff in the browser that I have to, but I have been trying to minimize and get away from it as much as possible.
Starting point is 02:00:19 And not for any other reason, other than just I've grown to be so much more comfortable in the terminal. And with YouTube DL, I mean, what you're doing for grabbing your videos is so simple. I honestly, I don't even watch YouTube in YouTube anymore. I just have Newsboat and I open it by piping the output to MPV. Yeah, you can get the access feed for a channel. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Yep. I made that a whole video about and everyone told me about better ways to do it in the comments. about and everyone told me about better ways to do it in the comments but i got the i got the whole all of my like 200 almost subs into into newsboat and then i have it all tagged i can easily go to just youtube content or i can just go to my main query feed which i i sent you a comment i think about uh query fees did you look into thatery feeds. I don't recall doing that. There's, yeah, it wasn't in your video. I was suggesting it to you for like something cool that you could set up. I got it from another user on YouTube called GetBletu or something. Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So he set up this... He has a crapload
Starting point is 02:01:26 of query feeds, but I just have one for things that I added a flag to, like, hey, I really want to pay attention to that later. Or all things that are unread for all of everything. And so it's just a simple one-liner that
Starting point is 02:01:42 will pull out things based on a query. And it just pulls in a custom feed of whatever you want. So you could set it up to be all of my unread items, which I do. Because instead of having all my things separately, if I only want to watch videos, I can go to my YouTube tag. But if I just want to go through all of my content and start ticking off everything that is unread, then I can go to my query feed, which is typically what I do. Yeah, I'll have a look into that. I mainly just use RSS for podcasts and my news. Everything else I'm happy to do with the web browser pretty much, but just because YouTube DL does have some
Starting point is 02:02:21 problems, especially with some content where it will only pull in a lower quality video. It really depends on what YouTube is doing that day. Generally, you can get the 720p video, but it does have a bit of issues sometimes. I haven't had any problems with Newsboat, and I have everything in there. I got my Twitter, my twitter my podcast reddit youtube blogs journals articles uh all everything everything i just found the rss stuff for everything i'm gonna send you something in the comment right here yeah just add this add this to your news boat um preferably probably at the top just that single line in your urls um file and then you'll have
Starting point is 02:03:03 a new tag just called unread and it will be every single unread item you have that is awesome i'm a pretty big fan of it i went through and read all of the docs for newsbowl jesus uh of course i'm gonna find some good in-depth but uh i did find some good some good nuggets of information. I got my own custom color theming on it now. You can modify that with some stuff. And then GottBledu had a really good amount of stuff on Newsboat. So I watched all of his videos on it and got some good things.
Starting point is 02:03:39 It's really awesome. I consume all my media through that now. I get no ads. I can easily just, I don't know, you don't get click baited into anything really. You don't see any ads. You don't get lost in a YouTube algorithm for recommendations. It's, if you're trying to save some time, it's great.
Starting point is 02:03:54 If you're trying to support YouTube channels, content creators, you probably want to use the browser. But, you know, I don't have a lot of spare time. So it's kind of useful. Well, honestly, I use Adblock anyway, and I would recommend most people do it. If you want to support a creator, it's probably better to do it through other methods, like even giving someone like a dollar a month, that is more than you would ever be giving them from ads. That's true. Yeah, Patreon and all the supporting methods these days.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Or if you just, if the person's on library, just give them a small tip on library. And that's true yeah patreon and all the supporting methods these days or if you just if the person's on library just give them a small tip on library and that's way more than they would have made from youtube i got library bat paypal patreon i made it easy whatever your format is i can take it i think i've had someone request some weird one i was like okay you're the one person who said this do i want to go and bother doing that maybe do you accept a money order through the u.s postal service i don't know mate if someone wanted to do it, I would look into it. For enough money, I would do it. I would find a way to take your money. It was really cool that I got my first patron,
Starting point is 02:05:18 and he's at a high enough tier. It was actually for the $50 tier. Jeez, okay. Yeah yeah i was surprised and so like at the tier it's kind of like yeah you get to have like one-on-one calls or and you get up maybe a part of like this group call for the lowest for the next tier down but like the guy was trying to set up larves actually and so he was having some trouble because he didn't want the DWM build of it. And selecting I3 from that, there was a bug that Luke fixed this morning about how even though you selected I3, it would still, some said command wasn't working.
Starting point is 02:05:56 So it would still actually set you up with DWM. And it was a bitch to fix. So this guy and I were on the, we were on a call last night, a video call setting up his system and troubleshooting some of this stuff. So that's like what I was doing with him. Like, you know, thanks for being my patron. And you know, I obviously, I thank you for the support. So I'm going to support you. So we were like, you want to set up larbs? That's cool. I'm going to help you do that. And I'm just trying to work through it until we found out that it was just a bug that Luke fixed this morning. And now he's got I3.
Starting point is 02:06:27 So now my goal of what he wants is, he wants to steal my status bar with the way I've changed it now. Oh, is this the guy you were talking about earlier? You said that someone wanted you to status bar earlier. Yeah, so he wants my status bar with the current icons, colors colors and grub box everything that i have it's not luke's default and um so now that i'm messing with gnu stow i'm trying to
Starting point is 02:06:53 get that finished probably tonight after this and then have those dot files up so that he can grab everything but yeah it was actually really cool i was not expecting somebody to just go straight to that tier so that was really cool that is awesome i think my highest right now is 32 dollars but this dude also gave me 300 euros damn because i had a can of whiskey on my like a premixed can of whiskey on my desk and he was like that's shit buy a better can of whiskey on my, like a pre-mixed can of whiskey on my desk. And he was like, that's shit, buy a better bottle of whiskey and just gave me 300 euros for it. That's legit.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Okay, thank you. So what did you buy with it? I barely have a job right now, so my rent. Fair enough. That is maybe a little bit higher priority than whiskey. Little bit, yeah. But I will have to buy something nice at some point yeah that's awesome i did end up losing two patrons
Starting point is 02:07:53 after that distro watch video maybe it was the typo in the thumbnail maybe it was i didn't feel like fixing it. I got lazy. Fair enough. Oh, man. I don't know. I felt like it was a fine video. And it seemed like most of the comments were pretty positive. But doing anything like that, you're always going to have someone who comes up like, no, you're always wrong. This is... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Anything that's slightly negative, there's going to be someone who pops up to just be angry about it. I mean, I thought it was fine. You perfectly explained why it's not a good and accurate gauge of usage, and so did DT, so... Was MXLytics the one at the top when DT did it as well? I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:42 I think it was just yours, which is also who... I never even heard of that. Yeah. There was one guy on Mastodon who was like, MX Linux is running a botnet to keep themselves at the top of DistroWatch. It's like, maybe, but I don't know. I don't have any proof of that. That comment alone gets a heart from me.
Starting point is 02:09:08 That's great. We all know that Plan 9 is the most used distribution. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Now, honestly, if it was a legit list, Ubuntu would be at the top and then nothing else. That would be the only thing on the list. Maybe Debian in second place for servers as well
Starting point is 02:09:25 but besides that oh let me go turn on the light it's getting dark it is getting dark yeah i'm surprised the podcast been going for this long to be honest welcome back yeah real quick i'm in my kitchen basically i yeah well i can see the oven so yep yeah we got our desks out here so it's easy just to walk to the fridge that's a yeah i used to have my uh my desk in the kitchen or i guess it was in my my old house like back when i lived with my parents it was kind of like an open plan thing so you had like the living room and the kitchen all like merged into one yep oh yeah you've got the same thing don't you yep that's the living room right there it's the
Starting point is 02:10:17 kitchen yeah this place no walls it's a bit more of like a stretched out place so you walk in the front door and you got like a line of bedrooms and then kitchen in like a little cut off space that makes it sound like the place is far more expensive than it is no it's actually like a little small house um it's just in a relatively nice area that's getting built up around us so That university life? I am, yeah, it is nice to share housing for university life, that's for sure, because I don't really have to worry about bills too much. My expenditure is pretty much nothing. Yeah, we have a house here, and California, US in general,
Starting point is 02:11:03 it's expensive. California is really expensive so that's why we work for the the man so so we can afford our style of living yeah i do want to eventually get a house um but it's much cheaper to do it here like if i wanted to get a real cheap house i could go rural and get like a a six acre property for like 200 000 which 200 000 australian is like 150 us 150k here in the u.s would buy well in california would buy you a hut with holes in the roof. And they'd say five-star accommodations, modern appliances. It's a freaking hut. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:11:56 It's so much cheaper. Okay. Well, general living expenses in Australia are more, but when it comes to housing, people will talk about, oh, the housing is so expensive. you leave the city no it's not it's actually really cheap well the farther you get out from here depending on the city it's kind of like a like a wave like if you're in the city it's high you get a little bit away from the city it's low you get out in the boonies it's high again because people out there like to build their retirement mansions right yeah for me it gets high when you get towards the river because a lot of people like to buy like riverside properties
Starting point is 02:12:35 and they will be literal sheds that will sell for five six hundred thousand i mean if you can get it at a good deal it's a good investment but oh absolutely yeah yeah there's a couple of towns um up where my parents are living now that have like 50 people living there and you can get really cheap places there but they barely have electricity um but when they start getting built up because people want holiday homes, price just skyrockets. It's crazy. My family's got some property that we, the family acquired it in like the 1940s for like,
Starting point is 02:13:17 I think like $300 or something like that. In 1940, we got like 80 acres of the national forest up north in California. And so it's like, it was a group of people that went in on it but my family owns most of the the like shares now but there's like a bunch of like cabins we have out there for vacations and you know my family's got a cabin we've had it since the 40s and uh we maintain it and get to go up to the forest for like a week every year if I want. That is awesome. Definitely good for keeping sane. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Yeah, that's why I like my parents to live out rural, because as much as I love being in a suburban area, sometimes it gets a bit much. Sometimes I just want to go somewhere where there's no people, and I just want to relax. Yeah, I find it difficult to unplug from technology given my proclivity for it. So I can't just easily close the laptop and read a book at home, which I dislike because I really love reading. And I've been reading. I'm a voracious reader if I don't have my laptop.
Starting point is 02:14:21 So I usually like to go up to my family's cabin every year for at least a week and just do like a read week. And I'll read like a stack of books a couple of feet high in like a week. I'll just sit there and read a stack of books and it's the greatest. Yeah, my reading is mainly like, I try to give myself a bit of time before I go to bed
Starting point is 02:14:44 just so I'm not staring at my phone just until I go to sleep this is real terrible for you so like yeah I've got a shelf of anime nonsense up here and like there's like a ton of stuff in there see if we can fix this there. Is it... are we caught on something? Yeah we'll... Okay it's wrapped around the thing. Okay I can't show you. My cables are all a mess. I was going to show you the bookshelf but it's not happening. I need to sort out these cables. But yeah it's just an entire bookshelf full of anime nonsense and that's usually what I read before I go to bed. Generally I find it difficult to read something that's actually heavy I read before I go to bed. Generally I find it difficult to read something that's actually heavy when I'm trying to sleep because if it's
Starting point is 02:15:30 like that it's like oh I'm just gonna fall asleep reading the book like I I do have some computer science books I do need to get around to reading and it's just like I don't those the ones I don't really have time to read because I want to properly absorb the knowledge whereas something like this I don't really have time to read because I want to properly absorb the knowledge. Whereas something like this, I don't care. I'm just reading a story, basically. I got something similar. I was doing the same thing to limit the screen time right before sleeping.
Starting point is 02:15:57 I actually should probably pick that back up. But what I was doing was when I need to read heavy content that I actually need to like internalize and digest, what I typically do is I will pick like a set number of pages or a chapter depending on how long chapters are. And I'll just put like sticky notes or little flag stickies in it. And then say like on this day, I'm going to read a chapter. The next day, I'm going to read a chapter and like make it like a visual goal. That helps me for that.
Starting point is 02:16:24 day i'm gonna read a chapter and like make it like a visual goal that helps me for that but when it comes to like right before bed i will typically only read like fiction because it's not something you needed to really think about it's kind of like watching a mental movie yeah so you can just kind of like read it relax and then get tired and go to sleep so i actually have a i have a project i've been working on for like the last four years or something because i'm not good about keeping up on my reading but i've wanted to reread all the fiction I read as a kid and a teenager growing up. And it's been taking a while because I read a lot because I didn't have a lot of time and I wasn't as into tech as I am now.
Starting point is 02:16:57 So I did a lot of reading and I'm trying to still catch up on it because most of what I did when I was actually using a computer, it was honestly just playing Diablo 2. So that was about it. I think if I tried to do that, it would take like a day. Because I didn't read much as a kid. I just played video games all the time. I played a good amount of video games.
Starting point is 02:17:19 A lot of like handheld stuff. I mean, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance games, advanced games ps1 ps2 i remember playing on sega dreamcast i'm old enough not not not too old but snes i still have my snes and super mario brothers so i mean that's for like when one day if there's like little kids trying to play video games at my house i could be like we're gonna play snes and they're like what is that probably they're probably already like that so I was gonna ask you I have no idea how old you are I can't work it out how old do you think I am I would say the fact that you mentioned your SNES uh I would have to say probably late 20s at least
Starting point is 02:18:02 close have to say probably late 20s at least close early 30s like no closer than like i thought you were gonna keep going for the mark i'm 27 oh you're 27 okay yeah i think i mean close is in like close guess or something whatever just yeah it made sense in my heart yeah i'm 27 27 yeah i'm yeah i got that nice big looming number that all those looming 90s kids are all like ah i'm a 90s kid and then there's 30 over here just like sneaking up on you i'm just in that window where i can call myself a 90s kid even though i don't remember a second of the 90s i got 92 so i think like most crowds consider me a 90s kid yeah because i was born in 98 it would be yeah yeah my i was in 92 and my sister was in 95. So when we look at those nostalgia posts of the 90s,
Starting point is 02:19:11 like all those people making nostalgia posts, I recognize almost everything. She's a little bit less. She doesn't recognize as much as I do. But yeah, I'm definitely... I grew up 90s kid. Yeah, my sister was born 2000, which is... She can forever call herself a millennium child true millennial true millennial actually no well a millennial isn't even someone born at the turn of the millennium right that's Gen Z. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Huh.
Starting point is 02:19:45 Bummer. That was a wasted naming opportunity. That was a wasted naming opportunity. Almost as bad as my Flash script. Oh, yeah. Well, you can still fix that. I did. You did? Okay.
Starting point is 02:19:58 I did it right after your video came out. Like, okay, that's one people too many that said that to me. And then I figured out, oh, wait. GitHub rep repos as long as you don't make a duplicate repository it'll still refer all of those old urls to the new repo i'm like oh then that sells it for me so i changed it immediately because i thought it was just going to break all the old links yeah i i thought the same thing as well because i someone recommended a i don't know some sort of program to me and they told me the developer for it but the developer changed their name on github and it just redirected everything to it so there was an old link and it was like oh it just works fine like that's cool
Starting point is 02:20:35 thank you github that's how you actually design a website yeah robust links. Unlike Twitter where my Twitter links are now broken, which I think I've fixed them all now. Well, if I find any more, I'll let you know. I think no, BitChute I haven't updated, but I also don't have videos on BitChute because YouTube sync doesn't work. It works for me. Oh wait, BitChute or BitTube? Shoot. Oh, nevermind. BitTube works works fine i didn't know you're on bit tube yeah i just have it synced automatically i only have one subscriber yeah that's pretty much how bit tube goes yeah i just have it just to have it but yeah pretty much yeah if it takes off it takes off if it doesn't whatever that's just another way of people to get to YouTube if they want to go there. Which if they're on BitTube they probably don't so... I do want to actually branch out and try out some of the other crypto platforms.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Like I have a Steemit account, I haven't used it much though. There's another one called like 3Speak and a couple others like that which I do want to start using. But... Haven't heard of those there's a guy called Scott C business who he uploads his content basically anywhere that content can be uploaded if you want to have a look at some of the crypto platforms here's a good place to start hmm yeah because it's not too much extra work to upload to the platforms.
Starting point is 02:22:07 It is nice to have that syncing, but if you're just re-uploading content, it takes like, what, 10, 15 minutes, depending on your upload speed. I mean, if you've already made the video and the thumbnail, you're pretty much good. Yeah, it's just copying the description and stuff over. Yeah. Do I have anything left on this list? Did we hit everything? I think I actually have hit every single one of the topics. Huh. That's impressive. Usually it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Through sheer serendipity. Well generally, a lot of the previous people I've had on have just been my friends, so I'll just talk about random shit with them. Well isn't that kind of how this one went a little bit? A little bit, but it usually gets worse. Like the one that came out today on YouTube, I had one of my mates who's an official Snapchat lens creator. I watched like the first half hour of it while I was working today. Oh, you did. Okay. Yeah. I actually had to stop it.
Starting point is 02:23:17 I had to stop it because we were actually had to set up for this, but yeah, I liked all the, all the talk of shit posting as filters. I don't know what he was doing that entire time it gets worse as the video goes on or better depending on your outlook of it i guess so like he's got a potato filter that he switches to at some point i did see that clip. I've known that dude for years now. That's one of the things that uni actually is really good for. If you go into like a tech niche or anything like that, you do meet a lot of people who have a lot of similar stuff to what you do, but then you'll also speak to them about something and be like,
Starting point is 02:24:03 oh, I do Snapchat lenses or i make this or make that it it's nice to be able to have people who have that one niche in common and then just see all the other random stuff that they're also interested in uni is a really good place to find people like that i have something similar i never went to a four-year University and my community college was basically just everyone from my high school so it was kind of just like I'm already tired of all of you so I'm just going to go to class and then go home yeah but I actually ran one of the larger if not largest one of the largest parkour groups in california for like almost seven years
Starting point is 02:24:45 and uh yeah i we would do events set up train do all that stuff like you see on youtube uh shoot videos and whatever but through that you actually do meet a lot of the most random people from every sort of walk of life so i got a lot of people i know they do a lot of weird things so just the other day i was actually talking with a friend of mine who also goes to the renaissance fairs he actually is a vendor so he actually sells his leather work there actually at fairs because he produces that's his sole business and income yeah so i was talking to him because there's a specific tool that goes around some of the stamps that we will like you know place hammer into the leather to make you know designs and impressions but it gets really hard on your hands so there's this little
Starting point is 02:25:28 leather like stopper looking thing that you put around it to grip so it just saves your hands the place where he's bought these from doesn't sell anymore they don't produce them they don't even have anywhere they can even find them anymore and they even look for me and they don't know anybody else selling them so i'm like crap so i asked a friend of mine who does some 3d printing turns out he's like some vp cto something with like a degree in electrical engineering now because like i remember him when he was like in high school and he was like pointing me to this website and like helped me figure out where to find some resource that would actually be basically this piece of rubber that sticks around my tool to save my grip. And it's for like $2.
Starting point is 02:26:14 But he was already like getting plans, like how can I 3D print and manufacture this on like a massive scale for you? It's like that kind of randomness. Like I know just random people that, yeah sure that's the facility i have access you come yeah you cut out right at the end when you're saying that just that last thing you said oh i already forgot what i said uh but yeah yeah i know i know the feeling you're talking about where you you just meet these people and just like you have this common interest and then they'll have just some just really weird side interests they have like honestly finding out you had that leather
Starting point is 02:26:59 business was weird enough but i've met so many people like that like um the guy who did my channel art he's someone I met at uni and I've got well the first time I went shooting was a guy was with a guy that I knew from uni it's like okay because I guess there are some there are those people you do meet that are just singly focused on one thing but i've never been the sort of person where i can just say i only want to do linux stuff i only want to do tech stuff or anything like that obviously i have a lot of tech interests but being so singly minded on one thing it's not something i can ever do it just makes you a more robust and well-rounded person to have multiple interests like my first business i went to school for physical education i was big
Starting point is 02:27:52 into kinesiology and fitness training i actually by the time i would entered college i already owned a fitness training business so i actually was just going for the paper at that point in a field I was already working in and studied, like as much as I studied computer science and stuff, that's how I apply that level of learning and learning and study is what I applied to that. And so I was like really into that for almost a decade and then started getting more into tech, into my career. And now I'm into this and I have my leather business i did during my fitness time i also did like parkour for almost a decade like you had a lot of experiences meet a lot of random people it just makes you a better more well-rounded person and gives you a better network too yeah even though at this point my network that i've built up with uni i don't even know if i'm gonna use use it as much as I love programming
Starting point is 02:28:46 the more I find out about corporate programming work the less I want to do it that sort of atmosphere in the corporate sphere do I want this to be my life? I'm kind of on the fence about it myself I like building my own stuff and fiddling with my own system,
Starting point is 02:29:05 but some of the, there's the bad design choices that just the tech stack, they either forced to use or one that. Yeah. It's just, or just people who don't want to follow conventions or documentation very well. Like your video on the suckless documentation.
Starting point is 02:29:24 I'm just like yes yeah it's it can it can definitely be a bad time because it's so it's such cerebral work that if you don't like it or don't like what you're doing it can be a real drag and that's that's coming from experience yeah well my one web dev job i was basically the sole developer and my uh the other person on the team was doing the back end stuff but i kind of had to rewrite the back end because he had to go on holiday for a while so i was the sole developer on the project and i would then communicate with the client and say, okay, I'll give the client design. I will implement that.
Starting point is 02:30:08 And then I'm the only one actually touching the code. And if I'm the only one touching the code, I'm the only one responsible for it to be a complete mess. So I kind of feel like I have a deeper understanding of what's happening with it than you would if say you're working with a team of people and they all, they might be great programmers programmers i'm not saying they can't be great programmers you could be working with like amazing people but everyone has their own little sort of
Starting point is 02:30:34 habits that they pick up when they program and if you don't have a good understanding of it then and if they don't document it and they're doing something weird it just becomes a real mess mess to work with. That's what it's like working on my honours project right now, where we started with this code base that's like 20,000 lines long of really terribly abstract C-sharp code. There's like, um, there's inheritance for no reason. There's just classes embedded in classes when they should be separate classes. You don't know where they're being created. And it's just a mess to work with and none of it's commented.
Starting point is 02:31:12 So the suckless stuff was like, that was the catalyst for that video, but it wasn't the only reason I made that video. My honors project has been really driving me up the wall lately. So I would just be happy if that. My honors project has been really driving me up the wall lately. So I would just be happy if people would keep and maintain a change log. If I could just get that, I would at least be just mildly more happy with that.
Starting point is 02:31:42 My bare minimum is give me at least like a one line telling me what your function is supposed to be doing. Like, I don't care about the internals of it. What is this function supposed to be doing? Because there's, I can't, similar to your government job, I can't really say too much about this because this is for the CSIRO, the Commonwealth Science and International Research Organization. So, I can't say too much about the internals of it but there are functions called things like rs pcp underscore one and like what does that mean i don't know the acronym pcp could mean a variety of either interesting or bad things. Well, I know what a PCP is in this context.
Starting point is 02:32:27 It's not that. It's a parallel coordinate plot. So PCP in the context of my girlfriend and I, we work for the same department in the same unit. For PCP for us, it would be a primary care provider for healthcare. for PCP for us, it would be a primary care provider for healthcare. No. Well, I mean, that depends on if the patient's taken one, but... But this project is... The one thing I do like about this project though, is there are some little jokes in it. Like when you grab an access, like it's a visualization tool to work with big data
Starting point is 02:33:06 so you can grab an axis and bring it over one of the parallel coordinate plots and it will create connections that are basically from that plot to the other plot so data that is in both it will create connections between the two
Starting point is 02:33:21 and that action is called angel dusting which is amusing and if you know okay pc we have pcp we have cocaine what other drug name functions do you have i haven't spotted any others but it is amusing that those do pop up you should keep a list of these i should but. But it's a common thing in programming in general. Have you seen how many instances of the word fuck are in the Linux kernel? No, but I think I remember hearing about it that it was an inordinate amount. There's a website that keeps track of things like shit, fuck, and a bunch of other words that are in the Linux kernel.
Starting point is 02:34:01 And there's a graph. You might enjoy it because it actually graphs the changes over time and how it increases and decreases. I want that link. If you have it, I want it. I'll see if I can find it. I remember seeing an article about the Windows kernel and about
Starting point is 02:34:18 people putting the same thing in the Windows kernel because, I mean, if they're working on Windows, you already know that that level is going to be a lot higher. Well, yeah, because it's also proprietary, so no one outside of the company is going to see it. So it's just all kinds of internal junk. Windows is a mess, though.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Like, that kernel just, I don't think they can recover from it at this point because they've got 20 plus years of backwards compatibility built into it you can still run windows 98 apps and they'll still probably work yeah especially the files like the even though we have the new docx files or the any of the new x files which are basically x, all of the old ones still open. And they support backward compatibility for, like you said, just about everything. And then they started with GUI before command line. So their command line, everything is automatically forked, even with PowerShell, which I don't, I really don't like PowerShell.
Starting point is 02:35:21 Well, okay. PowerShell is better than the alternative, but I still would rather bash. Yes. Well, I mean, when I go to PowerShell, I still try a few different core util commands. Some of them work. Yeah, some of them are alias to their equivalents in PowerShell,
Starting point is 02:35:40 which is nice. But for the most part, I wish we could just use bash at work but i'd also don't want to put in the effort to learn powershell to be as effective on my work machine as i am on my home machine at this point i'm just like if you wanted me to be that productive you could give me bash or wsl yeah i feel like wsl will start growing but there's still so much legacy stuff it's like we have built everything around powershell we cannot leave powershell yeah especially in a government situation like you have oh yeah there's the the tech and government is especially conservative
Starting point is 02:36:18 because of stability and like there there's some things that are still around from the 80s. A lot of governments and banks, airlines, a lot of them like you've seen in the news, maybe. Actually, no, you're not in America. Maybe you've seen the American news about how there's like, again, a shortage of COBOL programmers because COBOL is still widely utilized by these sectors that rely on high stability and high traffic for mainframes pushing data. So it's a lot of government agencies. And I think it was like New Jersey here in America that was saying, we have a critical shortage of COBOL programmers. We need them for like actual government projects that need to be maintained. And it's kind of hilarious.
Starting point is 02:37:02 We have the same problem here. I haven't heard about an American context. I think the last big American tech thing related to that that we heard about here was back when some sort of branch of your military was upgrading their missile control systems from using floppy disks. And that was like last year or something
Starting point is 02:37:26 i didn't hear about that but i am not surprised well if it works there's no point touching it that's the thing that especially when it's true that mission critical like if it works don't touch it just leave it yeah you don't want to be suddenly given giving control to a missile guidance system to a python script yeah especially one that you're in turn right yeah we're gonna hire this contractor for like you know 100k and they're gonna write our whole system in python 3 3.88. And it's going to be great. It's going to be modern technology. And then the Holocaust has started.
Starting point is 02:38:09 Yeah. Don't do that. Bad idea. Yeah. There's a lot of older technology. Some of it's still growing. Like there is a lot of good modern innovation in a lot of the agencies.
Starting point is 02:38:24 At least I can only talk from experience from some of the stuff here in California. But a lot of the agencies are doing a lot of cool, innovative, and more modern practices in some areas. Some things are still relying on older technology, but some departments here are doing modern web development. They actually are using GitHub. They are supporting open source software. They're supporting open government software so that government agencies could use other agencies' software and code, which is really cool for the ones that actually participate and contribute to that. But that's something I'm also trying to be a part of is helping public sector government
Starting point is 02:38:58 with software and improving the tech stacks that we use, the tools that are available, while still leaving continuity, the robustness of the code base, and not breaking anything. There's a lot of room for improvement because a lot of stuff is still just manual paper processes, so you're not even digital on some of these things. So the fact that you can still just take those manual processes and do something digital or with code with them is a really good chance to help innovate and solve a lot of social problems i haven't been paying too much attention to that stuff in a u.s context but i know there was a big scandal like a year or two ago about um github renewing their contract with ice and there were a lot of people who are really angry about that.
Starting point is 02:39:48 Yeah, I remember hearing about that as well. We don't hear about it anymore because I guess people are off to the new buzzword or buzzphrase. Yeah, well, they're going to use it. So if they don't use GitHub, they'll just spin up their own GitLab instance. Yeah, or just use a private Git server. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:03 So, I mean, in the the end is it good or bad that they are allowing them to use it because that means that they're censoring people on content and who are they to do that freedom of speech right freedom of use i don't know i don't know like they don't really have any business telling people what code they can put up when it's something well within the law. Yeah. I mean, short of just straight up putting a malicious script for malicious reasons
Starting point is 02:40:30 versus a malicious script for studying purposes. Yeah. They really kind of just allow whatever, which is kind of like free and open source software. You kind of should user beware of running, you know, shell scripts that you don't understand. Yeah. If someone posts a shell script on Reddit, don't run it. Just that's the most
Starting point is 02:40:52 important message. Just don't run a shell script on post on Reddit. They're trying to break your system. There's a, sorry. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, there's this one command you can, oh go ahead I was going to say there's this one command you can so if you don't know there's a command that will take in a hex value and then convert it into like text so you can echo
Starting point is 02:41:14 basically rm-rf no preserve root and then pipe it into this command and it then prints out that command obviously which should be pretty obvious what happens when you do that. And people like to post that on Reddit and a couple other places. I remember I got like hand slapped in a Slack channel I'm in
Starting point is 02:41:39 because I posted like jokingly, somebody was talking about RMRF on like some like repo or folder directory or something with files in it. And I jokingly posted like, you know, pseudo RMRF forward slash. I didn't put no preserve root, but I mean, I've just put that as like, you know,
Starting point is 02:41:56 ha ha, yeah, we're just gonna delete our system right now. And somebody like got upset about that. I'm like thinking halfway, if you're the type of person that just runs commands without doing even the like smallest amount of research into what they do maybe you shouldn't have that system and maybe it should just be like a creeper from minecraft and just but to be fair the rm-rf1 it's safe on most modern systems yeah like ubuntu they don't even give you like root access and you have to learn sudo and even then well no i mean the um a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 02:42:33 implementations of rm they will actually require you to put the no preserve root in there otherwise they just won't work for the uh root delet, basically. That's why that option is there. Yeah, and I didn't even put that. I'm pretty sure the plan 9 implementation of RM doesn't do that, though. So it actually will nuke your system. But the canoe implementation, you do require no preserve root. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 02:43:00 Yeah. We've been going for nearly three hours now, so i think that might be a good place to end it on yes don't run that command don't nuke your system basically so do you want to give some things to shout out um thanks for having me on it was it's been fun and entertaining and uh you're welcome back anytime awesome yeah i had a good time talking with some of the people in your discord too and uh yeah you can catch both of us on youtube you gotta tell people your your channel name you know assume that everyone knows who you are
Starting point is 02:43:38 yeah i'm a star you said so oh yeah absolutely, yeah. Absolutely. Brian Jenks on YouTube. And then if you look at my website, brianjenks.xyz, I have all of my links for everything on there, including a Curlable business card in your terminal. I did see that. That's actually really cool. Yeah, I thought so too. I can't take credit for creating it,
Starting point is 02:44:03 but I did remake it into my own and i really thought it was a cool idea so awesome um yeah so for me uh check out my main channel brodie robertson if you somehow managed to find the podcast without knowing about my main channel i i thank you i don't know how you did it. Good. I know I have some audio listeners, so maybe they don't know about the main channel. I don't know. It's possible. But anyway, go check that out.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Go check out my Twitter. Everything is either Brody Robertson or where I can't do Brody Robertson, it's Brody on Linux. Brian, yours is Toolguy Jenks. Everywhere on Twitter and that? It varies. It's fine. Just say refer to my website and my curlable business card. Go to his website. is Tall Guy Jenks everywhere on Twitter and that it varies it's fine
Starting point is 02:44:46 just say refer to my website and my curlable business card go to his website you'll find his links also I want to thank
Starting point is 02:44:53 my patrons Joachim, Nathan, Andrew, P.E. Tony, Donald, Oki, Larry and Zilva and if anyone wants to join
Starting point is 02:45:00 the Patreon there'll be links to all of that down below as well as my Amazon affiliate links by the gear I use to make this channel, or anything else you want.
Starting point is 02:45:08 The one thing that someone has bought is some sweet rolls, I got three cents for that, that is awesome. So, if you want to buy some sweet rolls and give me a small kickback for it, you can do that if you want. I'm totally gonna do that. Yeah. Honestly, if you're not using someone's Amazon affiliate link, you might as well. Like, if you're not using someone's Amazon affiliate, I think you might as well. Like, you don't have to use mine, obviously. You could use anyone's. But if you're not using one, it doesn't cost you anything extra to use.
Starting point is 02:45:32 So you might as well give someone a bit of help for it. So, yeah, I think that's the end of episode 12. Next week, I'm not sure who I'm going to have on. I might bring Marty back. That could be fun. Or I've got another mate, Sam. And if I bring him on, it'll turn into a political podcast. So we'll see who I decide to bring on.
Starting point is 02:45:53 But anyway, that should be the end of episode 12. This has been nearly three hours long. We were going to end this at an hour and a half. But we just kept going, I guess. So thank you all for listening. Thanks for being here, Brian. Thanks for having me. You're welcome back anytime, as I said before.
Starting point is 02:46:10 And how do you want to sign off the podcast? Linux rules, don't use Windows. All right, we can do that. See you guys later.

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