Tech Over Tea - This Vtuber Uses Arch Linux... btw | Veni Okojo

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, and good evening. I'm, as always, your host, Brody Robertson. And today, we have another VTuber on the show. I'll let you introduce yourself, because you wanted to do so. Hi, Stozu! I'm Veni Okojo. I am a character action and action RPG streamer. I stream at 4pm PST, Friday and Tuesday. And I am also...
Starting point is 00:00:24 An ArchonLynx user, byux user by the way yeah yeah that's a that's that's a problem we can't have we can't have that no arch users here you're gen 2 based users only look now look look what we're gonna do is we're gonna just switch to bsd that's that's the That's the real plan. But which one? Free BSD? Open BSD? Net BSD? Not Net BSD.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Dragonfly BSD? Yeah, I reckon, what, Free BSD? Free BSD's probably the best option to go with. I think they've got, like, the Wayland support all figured out, so they're probably the best ones to go with. The other ones are still, like, doing their thing over there. They still don't have game support, though, I think i don't think it runs proton does it oh i don't freebsd i'm gonna say no uh it looked like a month ago because i was curious
Starting point is 00:01:20 uh proton exists on freebsd, I didn't think it did. Okay, apparently as of last year it exists on FreeBSD, sure. Interesting. How well it works, I've got no idea. I'm not a FreeBSD user, I'm sure they're gonna be in the comments section telling me how great FreeBSD is. I'm not gonna do that though. I'm good on Arch Linux.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, same here. I'm good on Arch Linux. Yeah, same here. I think we're in pretty much the exact same system, Arch KDE Wayland, right? Yeah, for now. I am definitely considering moving off of KDE within the next couple of months. I don't know if I've mentioned to you, but I definitely have recorded it.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Cosmic is supposed to be full release by Q1 next year, so hopefully by then it's mostly ironed out. I expect that to be problems still, because there's always going to be problems. As soon as they have a Pop!OS release with Cosmic, you're going to have a situation where
Starting point is 00:02:22 a lot more users are actually testing it out. There's be weird edge cases people try to discover but at least on like my system it's pretty rock solid the only issue i have is shit's missing pretty much yeah i'm definitely gonna try out cosmic as well and see if it's any good but like if it's just not my thing i'll just stick to kde it's just what i know you know right right right that's no that's totally fair i don't think there's anything wrong with kde like it's it's just not my thing, I'll just stick to KDE. It's just what I know, you know? Right, right, right. That's, no, that's totally fair. I don't think there's anything wrong with KDE. Like, it's a really good desktop. It's got its weird legacy issues, especially, there's a lot of issues that get masked by modern hardware.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And it's, you know, like, there's just random things where it's just, oh, let's just smash the drive cache because everyone's got an SSD now, so they're not going to notice it. Like, dumb things like that. Or the way the balloon works. Didn't you tell me about that on stream one time? Probably. I've ranted about it so many times. I think I did that myself,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and it took, like, two gigs off, and I'm like, wow, great fix, thanks. Yeah. Yeah, well, no no this is two separate things no so there is the baloo indexing where things are really yeah that's what i'm thinking of and the other one this is one they already fixed a while back where uh every time you use a desktop effect so if you open up the tiling editor you opened up like the logout screen it would lock up the entire system because
Starting point is 00:03:50 They weren't caching anything to RAM everything was being loaded from a drive cache And if your drive cache was on a mechanical hard drive It loaded fairly slowly and it waited until it loaded until anything else happened anything else happened. Jesus Christ. This is what happens when you have a 30-year-old desktop. There's gonna be some weird, weird design decisions that no one really thought about. It's through a desktop I'll live and die
Starting point is 00:04:15 by, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, like, Gnome has these same problems. Well, not the same problems, they have, like, similar issues. It's also a 30-year-old desktop, but I don't use gnome but i'm just bad all right i've tried using gnome and we'll probably get into my history of linux in a bit but like gnome's just bad i just don't like it well i guess that's a perfect segue um why why are you on linux firstly and how did you make your way to Arch?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Okay, this is going to be a long one that I'll probably talk about again on Friday. So, my history with Linux was... I've always been, like, a Windows user since I was, like, super-duper young or whatever. I think I grew up with, like, a Windows XP system when I was, like, three or something. But I remember the first time I ever saw Linux was probably around like 2006, 2007. So like around a few years after Ubuntu came out. I saw some kid in our little computer lab being like, hey, check this out. Loads Ubuntu onto a computer.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And I was like, what is this? This is not a Windows. So I got to test that out a little bit. It was really fun. It was using like GNOME 2, I think. I looked at some like the like C versions of Ubuntu. It was a version of Ubuntu, probably like 6.04 or something. So I didn't really hear about Ubuntu after that.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But like years and years later, when I was in high school, or one of my first high schools because I kind of shift around a little bit, one of my computer teachers was really into Linux as well. So I got to try stuff like Ubuntu, Xubuntu, stuff like that, and I actually daily drove Xubuntu for like a year or two on like my shitty laptops and it just kind of fell off of that because like there wasn't game support it was also shitty laptop so there wasn't aim anyway if i wanted to play anything it kind of sucked i just kind of sucked to windows for a bit but then, 2020, 2021, I had a former friend of mine really like Manjaro. And this was right around the middle of right.
Starting point is 00:06:33 No, different reasons. But we tried Manjaro. He did not like it after a bit because he said it was like OS, which I completely agree because it's the same anything for me as well um we just kind of didn't really like it i knew about endeavor us i tried endeavor us but it was mostly on my laptop like my gaming laptop that i have now it was kind of just that for a little bit but um the funny thing is two months ago it was trying to run kingdom hearts reach and Memory, specifically the Riku Reversi Birth Campaign. We'll probably talk about Kingdom Hearts a little bit on this podcast, I'm betting. But I really wanted to run it because I had a stream that day.
Starting point is 00:07:17 No, I had a stream, like, in a few days. I think it was, like, on my off day. It could not run. And I was, like, I tried every fix fix i tried verifying the integrity of the files i tried reinstalling the game i tried everything i had two options one i could upgrade to windows 11 and just upgrade with regret for the rest of my life two i took an arch usb stick i put into my pc i installed arch and it worked it worked perfectly um i had dabbled with arch a little bit before like uh it was right around the arch install script like was out again ish because it was out like years before um i tried that
Starting point is 00:07:59 uh seemed to work pretty well so just put on my main pc had a bit of issues here and there but i fix them and everything and i'm rock solid on arch like it's a really good system like i could have just did what kylo did and just use like you know mentor pop os or whatever but i am someone that doesn't want to just vtube and just game or do whatever on like the bare minimum like this shows stuff it's just all set up I'm someone that is very much into like rolling releases getting the most out of my tech and the latest updates and everything and Arch was just that it's the rolling release distro so like I like it it's good you know I have issues here and there yeah but like I think I'm technically enough to where I can just solve them.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Except the ButterFS issue. I installed Arch with ButterFS, and I still can't get that working. What do you mean you can't get it working? So, I think it was something in the Arch install script where I think I disabled some feature or something. I'm not sure. Maybe it's just an issue with like how i'm trying to set up it because like i wanted to set it up with like um the snapshots yeah max snapshots and just just could not work you know so i'm just like screw it just leave it off for now if my
Starting point is 00:09:17 art system breaks i'll just use ext4 or whatever yeah i'm just on ext4 myself um i i i should have better solutions for things people have told me to use butterfest for quite a while now i just haven't gotten around to messing with it also be catch if that's but that's probably going to be removed from the kernel any day now i i don't know there's like with something that's already been mainlined it's really difficult to remove it if it has users what's what's honestly more likely from what i've been hearing from other developers is it's gonna sit there and then they're just not going to accept patches from the developer and kind of like let it let it sort of fade out and then after like a couple of years then pull it
Starting point is 00:10:06 because you know there are users right now who are using it in production when they shouldn't because very experimental file system because it's in the mainline kernel so pulling it would be like you know don't break user space sort of situation where i i understand why it would be a difficult choice to get rid of it i i honestly think it should stay around just because it's fun and how just stupid the conversations are, but I can understand why there is definitely a desire to do something about it because the developer
Starting point is 00:10:33 is just... yeah. Yeah. He's hard to work with, I've seen that. It's not just in the kernel as well, even in the project itself, he is hard to work with. In the BcacheFS project, there are people who just try to submit patches and kind of just don't want to deal with him.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So, yeah. Yeah, that's how you convert people to ButterFS devs. Yeah, yeah. Well, we live in this world where there's not just one file system. Like, there are all these other file systems that exist. Like, maybe a Bcash Fest will be great long-term into the future, but, like, that's not where we are now. Right now, it's very experimental.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It needs constant patching to, like, not be useless. So you don't really get to throw your weight around when you're the new guy on the block that's how that works it's really ironic because the guy was like this is the cal file system that doesn't eat your data and then it crashes a lot and butterfest is just solid i've never heard anyone who said that besides like my kind of personal experience that's more of just a me thing a skill issue you could say um that butter fs is bad and it crashes i've heard no one say that except this guy yeah this there are a few
Starting point is 00:11:52 people in my comments who've mentioned some issues with snapshots not working consistently but until the like until the discussion about bcash, I had not heard anybody talk about this. And I have been around a lot of people that have very strong opinions about the tech they use. And not a single person has ever brought up Butterfest breaking your data. Maybe there's some weird... With one exception, sorry. In Raid 5 and and six there are issues anything else it seems to be rock solid
Starting point is 00:12:29 yeah that sounds that sounds fair but i don't use raid five or six so like you know i don't use raid i don't know how to set up raid in general i should probably learn that sometime probably not a bad idea no windows kind of automates that process but like what i want to do and i kind of have to set up in my pc where i have like a four terabyte like nas drive i want to get like two more of those and just do a 16 terabyte raid setup or whatever i don't know how to set that up there is an arch wiki page on how to do raidID. RTFM, they would say, you know. Or you could just go to YouTube and be like, How RAID?
Starting point is 00:13:12 It's also how I'm probably going to learn Hyperland. It's like, how to Hyperland. Oh, there it is. I actually found a video that was like, here's how you set it up. And I'm like, okay. So when you installed Arch, you went through the
Starting point is 00:13:25 Arch install script yes? Yes. So I've only done that a couple of times. What did you end up choosing as your desktop when you did that? Was that when you chose KDE? Yeah. Okay. Okay. What do you actually is it like a full KDE
Starting point is 00:13:42 setup when you install it through the Arch install script? Yeah. Okay. It like a full KDE setup when you install it through the Arch install script? Yeah. Okay, it's the full KDE desktop. So, what has that experience been like on KDE? Like, now that you're using it full-time, and now that you're using it not in 2006? Well, I didn't use KDE 2006. Well, like, you're using the Linux desktop, not in 2006.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's really solid. It's kind of Windows-like without being, like, cinnamon, you know? It has a lot of features that I like about it. I really like a lot of the, like, KDE apps that kind of... You install stuff with, like, Kdenlive and, like... a lot of the like 80 apps that kind of uh you install separate like caden live and like uh what's the snapshot screenshot tool called oh the screenshot tool um yeah let me let me let me look i can just go screenshot k print spectacle that one yes yes yes i like spectacle a lot i think it was actually you who told me when i was like like, trying to use Weyland full-time
Starting point is 00:14:46 that, like, don't use Flameshot. Flameshot doesn't work on Weyland. Use Spectacle. And I'm like, okay. And it works really good. Flameshot's in, like, a weird... I think they say they support Weyland, and technically it does.
Starting point is 00:14:58 It's just really wonky. I've had issues where it just, like, doesn't open. Yeah, I also have, like, a vertical monitor't open yeah i also have like a vertical monitor so i have like my main monitor and then on the right i have a vertical monitor for like my discord obs twitch chat all of that and i know that a lot of setups don't like that i know cosmic does cosmic still have issues with like vertical monitors yes yes um okay so they have one person on the team who uses vertical monitors they are very aware that vertical monitors are very problematic um they haven't fixed it yet because there are other things that take priority over that most people are not using vertical monitors so it's something they can kind of just ignore for a bit they know they need to fix it though and it's
Starting point is 00:15:49 going to be fixed hopefully by the next alpha maybe the alpha after that but soon ish because it also affects screen capture as well not just uh screenshotting yeah like that's probably the main blocker i would have with going into like like, a new desktop, like, Cosmic, is, like, does my vertical monitor work? Because I had issues with AE Wayland a little bit. I think I even saw some sort of, like, extra driver or something. Like, it works now. It's just a little bit of effort putting into it. But I hope there's this thing with Cosmic.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I hope it just automatically does it. Because, like, they say it's going to do stuff with the applets and everything and i'm hoping that works you know hopefully yeah yeah like my my setup is pretty simple so like most of the issues that i have with cosmic right now are like the way things feel as opposed to just core functionality being missing like the the core the core desktop is there But I don't like the way that certain parts of the window management feel or window focus feel once that stuff gets resolved I'm pretty much good like Like I don't really care. There's not as much customization as KDE. I'm not a big, like, ricer. I don't really care about doing theming.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I like a little bit of stuff as long as I can change, like, window border colors and window border sizes. But for the most part, I'm already pretty happy with it. KDE can be, like, kind of overwhelming initially with, like, how many things you can change. Yeah. I'm someone that kind of runs the default um when it comes to a lot of stuff like obviously like switch to dark mode uh immediately but like besides that i'd be with someone that just kind of runs the default i'm not really someone that is into rices as much like there's a reason why i'm not using hyperland right now is because with ed just kind of has everything i need
Starting point is 00:17:42 just right there and i have to go to a config file and set things up. And it's just there and it's ready. Which is ironic because I use the distro that is not that. That you have to set up everything. But the desktop environment itself is like something where I just don't want to think about it. Just run it. Okay, does it run? Okay, we're good.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I don't want to have to configure stuff even more. Especially if I'm like... If I installed Hyperland as soon as I got Arch Linux installed, I would not be able to see it for a few more days because I have to set up everything, you know? But now that I have like a rock-solid install, then I can branch and be like, okay, do I want to win Window Manager?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Probably not LK to E more. Do I want to get Cosmic? Do I want to do all these things? Because I have like a steady base. I can now do random bullshit. You know what I mean? Well, that's actually kind of how I was when I first switched to Linux.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I swapped straight to i3. So i3, its config is very, very bare. It's like enough to open a launcher enough to like go between workspaces and move windows around that's it you don't have a wallpaper so you just have like complete if you don't have a bar set up you have a completely black screen which is um yeah a good start i like i knew what i was getting into so it wasn't as big of a deal, but it did take me a little bit to get things to a point where it was comfortable to use. And if you need something working immediately,
Starting point is 00:19:16 unless you're downloading an existing config file, a window manager is just not really the place for that. Unless you know exactly how to configure it, and you know exactly, like, how to configure it. And, like, you sort of already know what to do with it. Yeah. I get that. Yeah, it's... I like Hyperland.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Hyperland's fun. But, like, I wouldn't recommend Hyperland to someone who is just starting out, trying to work out, like, what they want from Linux. I would probably just put them on KDE or GNOME, probably KDE, maybe Cinnamon. Yeah, put them on, like, Bit.ly Cinnamon or Pop!OS with GNOME, soon to be Cosmic? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Distros, on the other hand, like, I don't really know what exactly to really give someone, because, like, there are certain issues with, like, beginner distros that have their own faults. There is no perfect entry-level distro, because, like, Nixmin exists. But Nixmin has some issues with flat packs and just management and stuff like that. We have PopOS. PopOS doesn't have Cosmic yet. That's literally it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's still using Gnome. I don't want to recommend Gnome. We have Nobara, and I do like Nobara. I trade it on my laptop. I even had it stream. I mean, it's on Nobara on my laptop. I don't like how they're handling the package manager. When I use KDE, one of the reasons I love KDE is they have the Discover app,
Starting point is 00:20:40 where it's an app store, basically. You can connect Flathub to install anything you want on the graphical user interface. Right. When you use the Nobara-themed KDE install, the official install, it doesn't get included because, according to RogueRen, it apparently screws up some dependencies
Starting point is 00:21:02 with Discover or whatever, like the repos. You use the package manager, the Nobara package manager, and my god, it's really confusingly designed. It's just a list of things. There's no nice front end of things. It's just, here's
Starting point is 00:21:19 a list. Figure it out. And that's not really intuitive for me. It's a package called yum x uh they they renamed it to namara package manager but it's actually called yum x yeah i didn't mean like um like like the pacman equivalent mean like the app store equivalent if that makes sense oh okay okay okay i see. I see, I see. Wait. Actually, I might be kind of confused.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Hold up. So, there's a thing on Nabara called the Nabara Package Manager. Yes. That is a renamed version of YumX. Okay. Which is a... There's like four different packages okay this is confusing like there's there's a bunch of different forks of yumx this project has been around for a long time i'm not even sure which like what they're shipping you probably just put in a vm and find out for yourself i could
Starting point is 00:22:19 i i could do that i'm not gonna do it right now um of course it seems to be some sort of just general package manager gui but looks of it yeah okay but like but like i don't think that's really good for like beginners i think a beginner distro should like have something that's like dare i say something's a little bit more windows mac os like in terms of like intuitive it's not like literal design you know where it's like here is a nice gooey for this here's a nice gooey for that right right and then present the options of like hey if you want to get a little more technical here's the terminal you know we have like a good beginner distro it has to have a balance of like guis and then have an option to branch out into more terminal-based stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It shouldn't just be all GUI or all terminal for a beginner. Now, for someone like me, who's used Linux for a little bit now, I can use terminal whenever I want. I can use GUIs whenever I want. I'm more preformed. But as someone like a grandma user who's like, I don't know how to use a computer. Then you'd probably want to give them like,
Starting point is 00:23:28 Ubuntu or something. Sure, sure, sure. For what I'm seeing with like YumX here, it's basically like, it's effectively a terminal application, but it's a GUI. It's just a big list of applications. Yes. Yeah, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, that's uh... There's no Discover app equivalent equivalent and i don't like that yeah i don't really i've never really used one of the like the gui uh app installers actively i've always just done things with pac-man but i can understand the value in the for someone who you know wants something a bit more user-friendly from the start i've always just like i i switched to linux when i was going through a programming degree so it's kind of like i'm in the mindset of doing things with the terminal anyway that's one of the reasons why i probably would never switch from uh arch something else i know um one of your viewers apic bang is wanting to teach me
Starting point is 00:24:22 nix os that's going to be. But I like Arch a lot. Uh huh. You're probably thinking, I have to do that NixOS video in two years. Yeah, I've been saying that for about two years already, maybe more, maybe we're at four. It'd be 2028 when we get the NixOS video to probably be changed. One day, one day it might happen. I'm not making any promises about it right
Starting point is 00:24:46 one of the reasons why i won't switch most likely because you know i could use nixos or i could use whatever um why i wouldn't switch to anything besides arch is because i'm so used to like arch package manager pac-man i'm so used to getting yay on my system and using the AUR and everything. A lot of, like, that sort of thing is I'm so comfortable with it that I can't really switch to anything else. Like, if I use, like, Mint, I'm, like, apt. I haven't used that in a decade. What?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Or, like, Fedora slash Nobar. RPM? What? What is this? You know, i like my i like my pac-man i like my yay aur it's just it's something i'm comfortable with it's really funny because like that's like one of the most advanced you know package says like you know or maje or poor poor Portman Joe from Gen 2 or whatever. Portman Joe. What was it called? Most people call it Portage or Portage.
Starting point is 00:25:54 That's what it's called. I don't know what the actual pronunciation is. Every comment on this video is going to be Portman Joe. Portman Joe. How do they make the Joe poor? I don't think i've seen anyone pronounce it that badly before that's actually impressive i don't know stope brain make me go what is the word yeah that's the australian word just now too easy too easy i remember i remember uh when we were in a vc like a few days ago i remember i was like oh yeah i'm about to go
Starting point is 00:26:37 on a macca's run and you were like benny it's macca's like Like, I'll smack ya. And I'm like, goddammit. And then I fucking tweeted, I'm going to Macca's or anything. And you said, get me a frozen Coke. And I was like, sure, I'll get you a snag too. And you were like, Theni, snags are not hot dogs. Yeah, look, also, you're not gonna get a snag from Maccas anyway. You get a snag from, like,
Starting point is 00:27:10 uh, what'd you say, like, charity events or something? Yeah, you can go to get one from Bunnings for the charity stuff they do in there, or you can get a democracy sausage. Yeah, that's when you vote! You get a democracy sausage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My god.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I will go over to Australia and I will ruin your culture. Oh, don't worry, don't worry. It's already a bit of a mess. It's gonna take you a bit to catch up to know what you can ruin in the first place. Yeah, how many times has someone come up to you and be like,
Starting point is 00:27:44 Oh, you Australian? Do you know about the emu horse? Yeah, people many times has someone come up to you and be like, oh, you Australian, do you know about the Emu Wars? Yeah, people like to bring that one up. They really like to bring up the Emu Wars. It's such a low-hanging fruit, though, to be honest. That's why I don't really say it, because you've probably heard it like a kajillion times. Well, there's also the Dingo Fence. Oh, no, what is that?
Starting point is 00:28:04 We built a fence. It's kind of like the Great Wall of. Oh no, what is that? We built a fence. It's kind of like the Great Wall of China, right? Where they built a big wall but didn't ever finish it so you can just go around it. Huge. That's the dingo fence. Also, dingoes like to dig holes so they just go under it.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Americans also have weird stuff as well but like it's funny when we're like wait you have weird things too let's go make fun of it for 30 years oh then we have we have a we have a lot of uh a lot of a lot of really weird things that most people have no idea about that will scare a lot of americans there's a lot of uh a lot of street names a lot of uh a lot of uh tell me some tell me some a lot of uh well okay there's one in in uh i forgot where it is now give me a second i think it's i think South Australia. Let me just check. Where is that? Oh no, it's New South Wales. In New South Wales, there is a road called Chinaman's Lane. There's currently
Starting point is 00:29:18 a vote to rename it. What? What is China doing in Australia? Oh, there's another one called Chinaman's Road. Why are Chinamen in Australia? What? It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Here's one that isn't getting renamed. It kind of just... It just is. There's a place called Iron Knob. There's a lot of uh- You came up with that. Well it's a- it was a mining town. They found iron there. I don't know why the knob part's there,
Starting point is 00:29:51 but it's iron knob. That's what we called a miner back then. Oh you- you iron knob? Uh let me- They're like, sure! Who did I tell them that? Funny place names, Australia. Let's just find a list. Ah, here we go. So we got Cockburn.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Useless Loop. Bastard Point. What's another fun one we have here? Eggs and Bacon Bay. What? Sauce Bottle Swamp. what else what's another fun one we have here uh eggs and bacon bay what sauce bottle swamp okay quality knob quality knob so we got iron knob we got quality knob prominent knob prominent knob that's the mayor boobs flat it's me. The end of the world.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Kingdom Hearts in my Australia? Bum cooler flat. Okay. Oh, here's another one. Spank a knob. So many knobs. Cockwash creek. Pisspot Creek.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Oh my god. This is just this list, there's a ton of others. Some of these are like official names, most of these are official names. Others are just things that have like stuck as a... Come on, DM me this, I'll tell you what talk about something on kremlin on friday just look up funny place names australia and you'll find so many lists of it we'll take a look at some then my god i think the biggest one that's also about like in the world the funniest name have you heard of like um i think it's called poopoo hill to peepee creek or something something? No, I've not heard of this one.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Let me see if I can find this. It's hilarious. Poo Poo Point Trail? Yeah, Poo Poo Point Pee Pee Creek. Pee Pee Creek. Pee Pee Creek. It's from fucking Ohio.
Starting point is 00:32:02 It's from Pee Pee Creek in Ohio. Poo Poo Trail is near Vancouver? Uh, Washington is what I'm seeing here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But look, there might be another one. There's a lot of real, a lot of places people have just named a very long time ago. They just kind of stuck as a name
Starting point is 00:32:21 and no one bothered to, like, do anything about it. I guess Knob was a big name back then because there's so many names named knob honestly i don't know well a lot of um a lot of street names are based on like people in that area like i'm my my stepdad he has a uh has a road named after his family, and that's pretty common. I don't know if Knob was a surname that was common at one point, and that's how that
Starting point is 00:32:50 happened. It's possible? I don't know. It was just an insult someone threw at an important guy, and like, fuck it, what do you mean? Tire place this! Like, Iron Knob. Uh, this one is one This one is one that's not intended to be funny,
Starting point is 00:33:09 but it is very funny. There is a place in Queensland called Aramanga. What? Aramanga, not Aromanga. No. E-R-O-M-A-N-G-A. Eromanga. Eromanga.
Starting point is 00:33:29 My God. It is another mining town. It's based on the Aboriginal word that means hot gale plain or windy plain. It just happens to also sound very much like Aeromanga I don't know about you but I don't want those miners getting in my Aeromanga the uh
Starting point is 00:33:53 the Wikipedia page for this um actually has a section for popular culture references to this place oh my god both uh Samurai Flamenco and
Starting point is 00:34:07 Eromanga Sensei make mention of this place at one point. Jesus. You have weird names, I swear to god. Yeah, yeah. It happens. It definitely happens.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But we have Poo Poo Creek or whatever, so... Yeah, very tame names compared to what we have here. Ow, I'm dying. Ugh. Arch sickness. Arch sickness Arch sickness yeah I have the arch sickness too don't worry Just makes you go
Starting point is 00:34:49 I use arch by the way Yeah People actually like to Take this as a serious thing that people actually do This like Arch uses Actually This is an internet meme
Starting point is 00:35:05 It's stop stop taking things too seriously. It's a joke Well, you know what distro does do that unironically? Yeah Every time I swear to God every time it's a Nixos in a YouTube video. Oh, I use Nixos I use Nixos. I use- What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, Nixos users are like Brazilians. Anytime you mention that
Starting point is 00:35:29 it exists, nothing but comments about Nixos. Greetings from Brazil 5,000 times. And hey, that's great. Like, they clearly, like, this is why, um, this is why esports works really well
Starting point is 00:35:46 in places like Brazil. They are very happy that they live in Brazil. Oh, keep in mind, I'm like a fighting game head and like a lot of the people who play stuff like Street Fighter 3rd Strike and King of Fighters and everything. All of them are Brazilians. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Okay, I'm going to tell you a little fun fact. So, did you know that Brazilians actually kept really old consoles alive? So, there's a company called TechToys that has made new releases for the Sega Master System.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Okay. It's T-E-C-T-O-Y-y-s they've made like a bunch of ports of like game gear games to master system they just make brand new master system yes these do seem like like nes stuff as well because there's a culture in terms of video games is they aren't ones that like to throw away old systems like what the rest of the world does. If they have a working system, they're going to keep playing it, basically. It's really funny how, like, if I'm looking up, like, oh, I want to play a Sonic Game Gear game.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Oh, it's a Master System version. It's made in Brazil. Like, 99% of the time. Huh. Huh. like 99% of the time huh I knew there was definitely like a big a big fighting game scene there
Starting point is 00:37:10 like I was not aware of that part though yeah Brazil just fucking built differently they like to do weird shit with their old consoles well yeah in um like if you go to Japan as well they they have a lot, like a lot of really high quality old consoles available, obviously it's not like new stuff being made, but like
Starting point is 00:37:32 second hand high quality devices. Here, good luck finding something that's not, you know, hey you wanna spend $600 on a PS2? It's like no, no I, I don't want to do that, actually. Speaking of PS2, I'm very glad that I bought my PS2 when I did, because maybe like 60 or 70? It was a fat PS2, like the best one.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And I was in a bidding war with someone over that, and I remember like, two minutes left! And I'm just like, oh, has he done anything? Okay, put a number, put a number. And I did. Like, the last second I did, and now I stream PS2 games. Like, on actual hardware. It's nice. I actually got
Starting point is 00:38:11 like a fucking pound cable for my PS2, which basically takes like... Okay, so when I streamed PS2 games before, I used an adapter called a Kaiko. And that makes the component output, which is a decent video output and turns into hdmi and it worked okay and then it broke i don't know how but it broke so i was like okay uh what what do i have
Starting point is 00:38:35 left oh pound cable i was gonna do that anyway so i got that that actually takes the rgb signal which is the best native signal from a PS2, and outs to HDMI. So that's how I'm going to be playing stuff like Nightmare Before Christmas or Grease Revenge, the game I showed you on stream one time. I'll be playing that on stream at the end of the month. I'll be doing some other PS2 stuff as well from actual hardware because I like that stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Any other console, I'll emulate it. The PS2 was the first like cons the first console with the first game ever like fully closes kingdom arts 2. that is sort of like really integral to why i like video games now and i want to like pay respect to the ps2 so i got a real ps2 and actually ps2 stuff because i just it's my favorite retro console you know but it's a really good cable like i know they make other stuff for like genesis n64 dreamcast i'll probably get some because i have like a dreamcast and n64 a uh genesis stuff like that i bought a genesis that was like one of the better models that has like high definition graphics on like the the little
Starting point is 00:39:43 front that actually outputs better audio and video or something like that i haven't really looked into it too much but i know like if it says high definition video you have a better model i also had this is my biggest regret when collecting retro games i had a sega cd but not just any sega cd it was a model one sega cd where it actually had a working disk drive. And you could, like, press a button and it just opens like a PC disk drive. Mm-hmm. I gave that away to a friend that I no longer talk to.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Mm-hmm. I will never get that back. And any time I look up that Sega CD Model 1 on eBay, ludicrous prices. I regret that even to this day. I really want a Sega CD again. Let's see. Sega CD model 1. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Now, it's showing you model 2s. They're already really expensive. Yeah. Sega CDs, even the model 2s are like kind of crappy in prices. Model 600. Yeah. you know what yeah I can see your problem yeah
Starting point is 00:40:50 but it has a working disk drive so we gotta charge it by $400 more than what it actually is I've never really been one to like really care about playing on hardware the exception to that is when it's some weird hardware device where it's kind of hard to emulate it well like some ds games are kind of wonky to play uh you can you can make do with like a drawing tablet right uh it's just not perfect but for anything else when it's just
Starting point is 00:41:27 it's effectively just a pc in a weird box i'm more than happy to play it on on uh emulated i know some people like also playing on classic tvs as well i don't really get that. What's classic TVs? Hmm? What's classic TVs? Like, they're, like, playing on... Like, CRTs? Yeah, on, like, CRTs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have a thing about getting a CRT for a bit,
Starting point is 00:41:54 but it's not, like, a top-priority thing, you know? Like, I agree with you on, like, most stuff that... If I want to play a retro game, I'll just emulate it. But there are some stuff... Like, if I have a PS2 and it just works and I have an output, yeah, I'll play that. Unless it's, like, Hot Hack, which is expensive, or Xenosaga, which is expensive. I had the first episode of Xenosaga, and I think I spent, like, $40 on it.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Xenosaga 2 is, like, $200. Xenosaga 3 is, like, $400. It's awful. But Hack, you start off with episode 1 of.hack with like $30. Episode 2 $60. Episode 3 $90. Episode 4 is like $200.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And I'm like, I don't know, just emulate that, you know? Well, the other thing for me is I I'm not a purist when it comes to playing the game like I want to upscale the game I want to I want to upscale it a 4k and make everything look nice and clean I like having save states I really don't care about the classic way of ooh there's a save point over there you got to make sure you get to the save point, it's gonna be 30 minutes away, if
Starting point is 00:43:05 you die, you lose an hour of progress. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm good. I was fine with that as a kid, but if there are ways to not do that, I'm, uh, I'm gonna not do that. Yeah, I pretty much agree with that, like, uh, a lot of GBA games just emulate now,
Starting point is 00:43:22 and I use save states a lot and stuff, um, that's just kind of just the exception, and I use save states a lot and stuff. That's just kind of just the exception, because I just like the PS2. I have a working PS2. Why not just stream it on there? It's just cool. But everything else, like, I just use save states,
Starting point is 00:43:35 especially with, like, Mario 64. I would rather not play the NSO version or the All-Stars version. I would rather just boot up Render 96 with the updated textures and models and just run it you know and it just works and it's great um also like sonic as well there's a lot of like infinite version of sonic games as well the one i'm thinking of is sonic 3 air uh angel i remastered light screen has like better audio samples for the music it's just great i'd rather play that over like emulating three and knuckles because just a
Starting point is 00:44:07 better experience like 99 of the time if i want to play a game that's like old i want to make sure i'm getting the most out of it i'm getting the definitive mods the quality of life features etc yes there's the only exception because i'd like to be a suit i have a working ps2 but everything else yeah emulated upscaled save states mods all that just i want the most out of my experience not what the what the game designers intended or whatever i just want to play my games the way i want to you know i might be more interested if like games weren't now a uh not just a collector's item, but like a, a collector's, a thing they would trade around for the purpose of making money. Right. I remember when you could buy retro games and no one cared about retro games. Like it wasn't a thing that you would buy and then try to flip
Starting point is 00:44:59 it for money. It was, Hey, this is an old game. Oh, look at this. I have this big collection of games. Like that, that's, I miss that time. I really do. Where you could buy, you know, like an NES game for $10. That was nice. And like games that now go for like $100 or $200. And it's the same thing with like PS2 games now. I remember when PS2 games were really, really, really cheap
Starting point is 00:45:26 because it was like, it wasn't retro yet. It was like a generation or two old. But now that we're like three generations old, getting close to four generations old, you're seeing these titles that were not even rare titles. They're just, you know, titles that for whatever reason have a lot of interest behind them just getting stupid in price. And this is, this is the main reason I emulate. I just don't want to spend the money. If I'd started earlier, I might have a
Starting point is 00:45:56 different opinion on it. Or if I collect, uh, if I'd kept my collection from when I was a kid, I might have a different opinion on it, but getting into it now is really difficult. Yeah, the only PS2 games I kept from when I was growing up was, of course, my Kingdom Hearts copies, like 1, 2, and Rechain. I kept those because those are my childhood copies. I'm hoarding them, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:18 because they're really important to me. But like anything else, like, I just kind of swap them around. I know there's a generous fan who's been donating a bunch of ps2 games for me to stream i have stuff like the bouncer i have shrek 2 i have all these weird ass games i'm just like okay i'll do that i know a friend of mine also likes the ace combat series and he's been giving me like all the ace i played all them like years ago but i have like four five and zero and
Starting point is 00:46:47 those are like really good games but i played them on hardware because like you know i have them it's here if it's like i don't know what's like a really expensive game uh xeno saga 3 i was talking about that a little earlier i'm gonna emulate it i'm not gonna hunt down a copy, you know? Even if I have a working PS2, it's not the effort, you know? It's not worth it. But if it was, like, a cheap PS2 game where someone wants to donate it to me,
Starting point is 00:47:15 yeah, I'll fucking play it. Like, I won't go out of my way to, like... The only exception to this is, like, I'm thinking for, like, the sub-a-thon I'm having in a few months, I want to do, like, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out on real hardware because I think that'll be really fun. It's not terribly expensive.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It's, like, $30, $40 for, like, a card. It's not too expensive yet. It's going to get there eventually. But I can get one for, like, that much and just play it on actual hardware because I can get, like, a clone console as well. as well a lot of these like early consoles have cloned versions like nes snes genesis that sort of stuff um and i like those because like they're cheap and i can just get into stuff easily especially if you have like games you already have um like just if you're just starting with
Starting point is 00:48:01 like oh i want to get an actual nes i want to get a top loader. Top loaders are expensive. Like the Dogbone official top loader is like super expensive. SNES games are so expensive now too. Oh my God. Earthbound prices. Have you seen Earthbound prices? Let's find out. Earthbound.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Here we go. That's how much it's like $600. Jesus Christ. Okay. How much are you seeing? I'm not seeing that. Here we go. So it's like $600 Jesus Christ, okay much using uh I'm not seeing that All right. These are the actual copy. Yes. This is the actual game. I'm But these also keep in mind. There's also a lot of fake copies of games going around as well now So yeah, the guy type in earthbound authentic
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah, assuming they don't fake it. True. I'm not seeing any crazy prices. I'm seeing around like $50 to $100, but I don't know how much of these are real. Probably not, because I know last time I checked, Earthbound copies are super duper expensive. But there's a lot of Reaper copies. I remember I beat Earthbound using a Reaper copy of something called like Earthbound Uncensored or something, and I was like, fine. I remember I even played on a weird console, I played it on a Superboy, which is a portable
Starting point is 00:49:17 SNES! Superboy? Superboy! S-U-P-A-boy. I don't think I've ever heard of this! What the hell is this thing? It was made by Hyperkin, I think. It was like a portable SNES. SUPER WEIRD CONSOLE! But I had it, and I played it, and it was good!
Starting point is 00:49:37 The fuck is this thing? They even played like Mega Man X on it, it was really weird. What a weird looking device. Yeah, because I know like Genesis had an official portable version called like the Sega Nomad. I guess I can want to make their own version with the SNES or whatever, which is... That's cool. I think the weirdest thing about this is the ports on the front of it. Yeah, that's like controller ports.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Because you actually plug it into the TV and use it as an actual SNES console. Okay, sure. Sure. It's kind of disappointing, but Superboy, but if that's all you have, sure. Sure. Alright.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Not something I'm going to buy, but hey, if you had it, it was was a thing i would just emulate snes games because i want to touch that it's a volatile market you know that's two is my comfort zone it's getting the point where some stuff is kind of expensive but like it's still not too expensive at least where i'm at i think like probably in australia or something prices are a lot different well we also our dollar is also weaker so we have that and yeah obviously there's going to be less supply for a lot of things but usually our prices are pretty much the u.s prices just converted into our currency um usually there are
Starting point is 00:51:01 some exceptions but you can always order things online anyway. So now that we have, like, sometimes it's expensive to ship things where you're like, hey, that's obviously not the shipping price. It does not cost $200 to ship a 500 gram box. Stop it. Stop it. Especially, like, I've seen some
Starting point is 00:51:19 eBay listings where it's like, oh, here's a cheaper version of a game. Pay $100 shipping. That's how they get you. Yeah. They lower you with the cheap price at first, and then when you go to, like, listings where it's like oh here's a cheaper version of a game pay a hundred dollars shipping that's how they get you yeah yeah they lure you with the cheap price at first and then when you go to like look at it it's like oh you're wanting 200 for shipping come on for a little card or a disc does anyone wait i wonder if this is a thing if it's not, someone make this a thing. Is there an extension where it's like a true price extension where it will... Yes? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Okay. There's stuff like... Honey can sort of do that sometimes. Or there's other stuff like stuff with Amazon or whatever. I know that exists somewhere. You just have to kind of find it. Okay. Because you could also use that for...
Starting point is 00:52:04 The idea I was also gonna say is because in the US they don't like to put taxes in the price which is Fucking weird to me. Yeah, because that like the way we do it here is it's not the price plus the tax It's the price the tax is part of the price like you know If the tax was optional then make it a separate thing like that's five like if it's if I have to pay it why is it a separate number that's stupid I mean I live in a place where tax is pretty high so like if I want to pay like $60 for like I don't know pirate Yakuza or whatever it will probably be like 10 or 5 tax and I'll be like
Starting point is 00:52:47 I'm kinda paying 70 for this now. What the fuck? Oh, I didn't even think of that. Wait, so when people say 60 on video games, that's not including the tax. Yeah. 60 is the base. And you pay like 2 to 5 maybe even seven if you're like in
Starting point is 00:53:07 california or something which fuck california uh for for tax and it's like i don't i don't i want my cheap games why you get keys most of the time you know because like at least that's cheaper right the u.s you guys are weird I don't get it I could say the same about Australia dude look you are right you are right but at least we handle our pricing in a sensible way it's just everything's
Starting point is 00:53:36 expensive every country has it's weird shit we're not the exceptions yeah yeah you are right you are right I'm always just gonna bully the us about the way they do the pricing though and the americans do that i'll bring up the emu wars again yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:53:54 yeah that yeah or or not a mac is on a macas right well here's the thing about the emu wars most australians don't even know about that like that's an that is purely an internet thing if you bring that up to some like random person in the bar they're like Most Australians don't even know about that. Like, that's an... That is purely an internet thing. If you bring that up to some, like, random person in the bar, they'll be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:54:14 They'll probably laugh as much as you do. Yeah. But yes, if you say markers run, that will get you jumped. Not markers. It's... You say markers, but it's Maccas. Marcus. I don't think I can say that. It sounds like Marcus when I'm trying to say it.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Marcus. Marcus Run. That one guy who was harassing you, he thought you were saying Adam or whatever, but it's Artem or whatever. Wait, what? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that one yeah yeah yeah yeah I completely forgot about that
Starting point is 00:54:49 I feel like I have more of a photographic memory on your videos than the person making the videos so I'm like oh yeah I made a video about this like six months ago
Starting point is 00:54:57 and you're like I did wait hold on yeah you brought up the um the freedom toast which I made a video on like a year ago
Starting point is 00:55:04 I was like I don't what the hell is that you're, which I made a video on like a year ago. I was like, what the hell is that? You're like, yeah, you made a video. And we were like, I did? Oh. You don't know how many times I've sat down to plan a video, and I'm like, this sounds like a great idea. And then I search in my name video topic.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I'm like, wait, should I do this video? There are times when I will redo a video if it's like three or four years old where i'm like that video was bad but if i did it like six months ago and i forgot about it i'm not gonna make it again true i know your overviews were kind of rough you have really improved yeah yeah there that People occasionally comment on one of them like, Wow, this is a really useful video. I'm like, no it's not. No it's not. This was just like three, four years ago.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, I- As soon as I see the old thumbnail style, I'm like, I know what this is. I know how I looked in that video. It's not- No, I don't believe you. There are a couple of old ones that are still fairly popular that I should redo just because they are actually really useful topics. I just handled it in a really bad way.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I did a video a very long time ago about setting up multi-monitors on X11 and how to configure stuff with X-Render. The video is just me yapping for way too long, but the topic itself is really useful, and there weren't that many videos on it. I don't think there really are now anyway, because most people, when they set up monitors on Linux, they set it up through what KDE has or what Gnome has.
Starting point is 00:56:43 If you're doing it on a window manager, the information is just not really there. Yeah. through like what KDE has or what GNOME has, if you're doing it on a window manager, the information is just not really there. I know you're going to say something. I'll say anything. Nope. Nope. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I should have just sat there and not said anything, just saw how long it would go for. Ah, yes. Steering contest for an hour. It's the rest of the episode. Yeah, I'm sure that would be great content and would not bother the audio listeners whatsoever. This is on Spotify as well or something, right? Yeah, I usually upload the video to Spotify as well
Starting point is 00:57:21 because they have video support there, but most people on Spotify just listen to audio that's the way that I do it I'm not really a big video podcast guy I do it with video just so I can show you things if I need to but like I don't really like to sit
Starting point is 00:57:38 down and watch a podcast I don't really get people to do that yeah I gotcha usually I'm like I don't really get people to do that. Yeah, I gotcha. Usually I'm like, I don't know, doing anything else. You know with Golden Gremlin, it's technically like a podcast? But I have a lot of visual elements too, because like if we're talking about a certain topic, Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I'll just bring up actual images and put them on the scene and be like, look at this thing we're talking about! Right, right. Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's the only reason to do it as a video. If someone wants to see it, you're like,. Right, right. Yeah, no, that's the only reason to do it as a video. If someone wants to see it, like, I want to show a thing. It makes it easier to do it like that than, like, being limited in what you can actually do.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But, yeah, I don't know. Usually when I'm watching something or listening to something, I'm doing something else. I don't really like to just sit down, unless I'm watching some, like, anime or a movie or something. I don't really like to just sit down and just watch a thing. I usually, I don't know, how are you with, like, background noise? Do you like, when you're, like, working on, I don't know, whatever, something, um, do you like
Starting point is 00:58:43 to listen to music or like videos or anything background or are you someone who likes it to be fairly quiet so a big part of like vtuber twitch culture is like lurking and like uh putting someone on a tab and kind of having their audio in the background or a separate monitor whatever if i'm like working and i want to support like another vtuber i probably just have them on a separate monitor. I am not someone that really listens to a lot of, like, lo-fi music when I'm working. I'm not, like, that type of person. I am more of a, like, a jungle drum and bass enjoyer.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I used to listen to that all the goddamn time. Like, stuff you hear from, like, PS1, Ape Escape era of like drum and bass stuff I used to listen to that all the time I used to actually put that on for some Pokemon Unite streams it just kind of depends on the work if I'm like video editing, no I need my full attention to that. If it's like I'm working on a doc which I should probably work on
Starting point is 00:59:37 my Linux challenge video at some point or like my video version of the guide or whatever I'll probably put on some music it kind of depends if I need like my video version of the guide or whatever um i'll probably put on some music it just it kind of depends if i need like my audio or visual needs for something you know but like sometimes i do sometimes i don't it kind of depends yeah i'm when i'm when i'm doing video editing i'm pretty much i try to be locked into the video editing it doesn't usually happen i usually get distracted i'm like oh, ooh, I open a tab,
Starting point is 01:00:06 and then I just get, like, I have to watch a video for, like, five minutes. Yeah. But when I'm actually trying to focus, I pretty much am not much in the way of doing audio. Usually, if I'm working on, like, thumbnails, I'll listen to stuff, or if I'm, like, you know, I've got the videos uploaded. I'm doing like the description, title, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'll listen to stuff. But when I'm doing video notes, most of the time I'm not really listening to stuff. I don't know. I just find it too easy to get distracted. Sometimes I do music. And music, if it's music where I can just put it too easy to get distracted. Sometimes I do music, and music... If it's music where I can just put it on the background, it's not something I'm really paying attention to, it works.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I can't really pick something where... I need to have a playlist, or a big video that's just a bunch of videos. If I put myself in a situation where I have to pick the next thing, I am going to get distracted. 100% of the time, it's going to happen. I mean, what I'd kind of do now if I want, like, some background noise when I'm, like, at work or whatever is I put on, like, speedrun progression videos.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I've watched a lot of, like, Summoning Salt and Lunatic and stuff like that and Cosmic as well, and that's been really fun looking at that. Like, if I want, like, background noise... Oh, your video is also an example of that as well and that's been really fun uh looking at that like um if i want like background noise oh your video is also an example of that as well where i just put on like a brody video from time to time and i'm just like i've seen this like 10 times i'll put on again because i don't know what to pick you know but uh yeah uh i know that uh sometimes when i like am watching like a vtuber so if it's a vtuber that i really like um i will like you know watch them fully and like chat with them or whatever
Starting point is 01:01:55 um it's just like one of my oshis or whatever but if it's a person that like um is a little more low energy then i'm just like i want them kind of in the background i kind of do that as well you know i have like my dependencies on like uh if i want to interact with the streamer or if i want to just like put them in the background or whatever what do you think about like those sort of co-working streams where people are just like working on a thing on their stream like they're programming or doing art. They're not really interacting with the chat. It's sort of the idea of they're just streaming so people can like work together with them.
Starting point is 01:02:32 A lot of art streams do that. Um, some like artist VTubers do that. I know like Othelina does that with programming. I haven't really done that um i know like i used to be a part of a big indie game dev scene i kind of still am but like not really this much because v tubing um in like my local area where we all had like a co-working vc i never joined there i'm not really a big fan of like big vcs or whatever i'm mostly into like my sort of smaller stuff it's why i'm not in like other servers vcs i'm usually in my own because i know the people there but like um that's good for people who want to like work with someone else kind of like in this sort of
Starting point is 01:03:17 parasocial way but like for me if i want to get stuff done i'll get stuff done right i'm not gonna be like i need my lo-fi girl. I need this VTuber online. You know what I mean? Yeah. One of the, one of the weird things I see, like, every time, any time I go to the lo-fi channel is there's always a really active chat. I don't know who's sitting around commenting in the lo-fi girl chat. Like that, that's, that seems so odd to me.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And there's always some like weird random discussion going on. I, I don't get it myself if if you want to do it hey more power to you spend your time doing what you want to do it's just I don't get it I don't get it either I'll just have the back on I really want to listen to you know sure yeah yeah like I don't even need to see the tab. I know... I've seen the visuals enough times. I can imagine what's happening in my head. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I kind of feel like having that just open distracts me as well. Like, not having the audio playing, but being able to see it. I'm someone who really doesn't like having visual distractions going on. I tend to get distracted fairly easily.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's a problem that I need to address. Like ADHD or something. Look, we've done the... We've done another test before. Maybe I need to do an ADHD test as well. I'm sure the result's going to be like high probability.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Probably. Maybe you get a physical diagnosed too. I don't know. I don't know It's not really much of a problem that I care to deal with anyway, so I yeah You know even if I got an official diagnosis. I wouldn't do anything about it. Yeah, I get that But I know do what you want to do, I guess. Work on what you want to work on. Focus on the things you want to focus on. If you have a system that works, hey, do that. If you have a system that doesn't work,
Starting point is 01:05:14 if you like the system, I don't know, do what you want to do, I guess. At the end of the day, just do what you want to do. Hmm. And I think some people are a bit too focused on like hyper optimizing things there's grising and i gotta get this de-bloated or whatever it's like i like deep loading stuff i'm not gonna like get rid of all my packages i kind of need to deal with my my package situation
Starting point is 01:05:42 because my arch and stool is uh i reckon you want to compare neo fetches right now i can do that i reckon it's probably like four or so years old and i used to do a lot more videos on testing software and a lot of those packages i never removed so i have 2100 packages installed on arch's going to be even worse when 6.2 inevitably drops on Arch. Because it's released now, right? Kitty 6.2? I think it is out on Arch. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:06:14 That was on testing. Oh, is it still in testing? Okay. I think so. I think I checked it like last night? I haven't updated in a week, so I update once a week usually i usually update quickly yeah okay it's it's still 6.1.1 how i usually update and i have a really weird method is like i don't update when i'm starting to use my pc because it just works right i usually update when i'm about
Starting point is 01:06:42 to go to bed so like the last thing I do, I go on my terminal, I type in yay-syu, updates my AUR stuff and my Arch packages, and then I go to my Discover app, update all my flat packs, and then shut down the PC. If stuff breaks, that's for tomorrow's me to figure out, you know? Usually doesn't, though. I kinda do it the other way around. I like to do things at the start of the day, so if something break i know about it immediately and i can deal with usually so i'm like a uh a night worker and when i wake up it's around like 3 3 30 p.m and i stream in like an hour to 30 minutes i stream like 4 p.m my time so i don't want things to break i want things to just work at the start right then when i'm going uh off to like work because i usually go to work right after i stream
Starting point is 01:07:32 or like i uh go to bed if it's like a like a day off because today and tomorrow my day's off that's why i wanted this episode to be today because it's one of my days off at work um i usually update right before i go to bed um but i usually i have very strict amount of time that i am able to stream or just using a pc in general so i just do that stuff last because i don't want to worry about it and so far like that's been a pretty solid system like i update it uh often enough to where nothing breaks because i don't update it so often. I also have not experienced any manual intervention issues. There hasn't been anything that...
Starting point is 01:08:11 I did DM about this. Wayland stopped booting for a little bit. I had to switch to X11. Yeah, I told you about that in DMs. Yeah. Had that for a little bit. Switched to X11 for a little bit but the next day it just worked again so like I don't know what happened
Starting point is 01:08:27 but I did not really have like a bunch of like I need to reinstall things or I need to do some manual intervention type stuff I have a pretty solid system of how I do things yeah Arch is pretty good about the whole manual intervention thing people like to bring it up a lot more
Starting point is 01:08:42 than it really is a problem I've had over my time using Arch, probably four or five instances, and most of those have been somebody leaked a GPG key or a key expired and they didn't check it and then the arch key ring was out of date that had to be updated separately and that's pretty much the only manual intervention i've had or there was a actually this was especially more of a problem um before the python changes um yeah when you would install python libraries through pip rather than through a pip virtual environment so if you install it through pip and then there's an arch package that also has that same library the the package doesn't know what to do because pip has the library and also the package has the
Starting point is 01:09:37 library so I think pac-man was just like I I'm not going to do anything here and there's like a manual command you have to run to overwrite it. Now that a lot of things are done with virtual environments, it's not as much of an issue. You just kind of ignore the problem. I still have some legacy libraries that probably might cause an issue one day. But I think that's pretty much all the manual intervention. Maybe there was like one package that i had to remove first beforehand and then do something else but yeah it's arch is pretty rock solid as long as you're not doing anything
Starting point is 01:10:15 just really stupid well people also have this false impression that Arch Linux is a system that just throws anything to you, and they don't test anything. First, they have a testing branch for a reason. That's why we're not getting 6.2 now. We're getting 6.2 when it's ready. Like, they have a testing process. It's not like LFS where you're getting everything from the get, you know what I mean? Well, even LFS, you don't get the latest thing anyway.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Most things are fairly lagged behind yeah but um my point is that like arch linux is not like super bleeding edge it's cutting edge but it's not like getting everything to get which people still think is the case like even like kylo neko we've mentioned a bunch of times i've mentioned me in on his episode i haven't seen it yet uh he thinks that arch linux is just too unstable and blah blah blah it's not really it yes you have to configure things when you install it arch install usually does that now and you can just do some extra package installs like arch linux does not come with um uh asian
Starting point is 01:11:23 fonts it doesn't have Chinese, Japanese characters. You have to install that separately. So I did, and it works. You have to have some stuff that are set up, but the big reason why I use Arch as a reason to borrow is that I can configure everything. I can have any package that I need and not any package I don't need.
Starting point is 01:11:44 You know what I mean well even if you're unsure about a lot of things with arch like if you if you come across Japanese text and like why is the Japanese text not rendering you can just look up arch linux Japanese and the first result you have takes you to the arch wiki and it's like hey you need to install a Japanese font and that like it like, most of it's there if you're willing to do at least a little bit of searching and try to find the information. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Like, that kind of brings up to the topic that I think we should probably discuss today is VTubing on Linux. A lot of V, so I, there are some VTubersing on Linux. A lot of V... So, I... There are some VTubers on Linux, you know, me, Kylo Ren, Asahi, Papito, Vasa, etc.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I'm... What kind of differentiates me from other Linux VTubers is not only am I someone that runs, you know, Arch Linux and blah blah blah, I also want to get people to try arch linux i've gotten two people who have switched one of them kind of doesn't really seem like they know what they're doing the one kind of knows what they're doing um and a lot of youtubers
Starting point is 01:12:57 use windows because it's the one that works the most out of the box and they have this weird sense of like well i want things to work i don't want to set things up not every distro is arch linux right you can use something like pop os nobara mint whatever and get stuff working pretty fine vtubing is stupid simple i'm gonna break down how you vtubing are you ready for this? All right, here's the setup. You install the flat pack for FaceTracker. You turn it on. You put on VTube Studio. That's it.
Starting point is 01:13:32 That's all you have to do. That's literally it. Like with 2D VTubing. 3D VTubing is a little bit different. If you have a live 2D model, just get the flat pack of FaceTracker, which is a wrapper for OpenCFace. Turn on VTube Studio on your Steam,
Starting point is 01:13:44 and you're good. You may need a reboot, because I remember when I used FaceTracker, it, like, was really buggy. I just reboot it, and it just works fine. That's all you really need to do. It's stupid simple to, like, get VTubing to work. Now, if you're, like, someone who plays a lot of, like,
Starting point is 01:14:01 I don't know, Fortnite, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, Rainbow Six Siege, stuff that has, like, really weird anti-cheat, who plays a lot of like i don't know fortnite player known battlegrounds and what succeeds stuff that has like really weird anti-cheat or if you are reliant on adobe products linux is not for you yeah if you're someone like me and i think a lot of other vtubers as well plays a lot of single-player games like i said before i'm the character action action rpg person i play kingdom hearts i play devil may cry i played some horror games from time to time because it's October and if I'm just mainly playing single-player games yeah of course I'm gonna switch to Linux because like it works now
Starting point is 01:14:35 for me because the Steam Deck has been wonders to get pretty much any single player single player mind you game working what you're playing is kind of different story because like some don't have anti-cheat some do have anti-cheat sparking zero does not have anti-cheat but you still can't match make i don't know what the deal with that is um i i heard kylo talking about i've seen people talking about on proton db as well i don't know what's happening there I wonder if there's a wait proton there's usually a bug report on proton GE about it proton GE sparking zero
Starting point is 01:15:12 I wonder if anyone's reported something yeah I default to proton GE now instead of regular proton because this works better I'm not seeing anyone any report about it maybe it's working now maybe it was just issue off the start? I do want to mention
Starting point is 01:15:27 when I was playing Kingdom Hearts. It seems like there are still issues with it. Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to say my thing. Oh, go on. When I was playing
Starting point is 01:15:44 Kingdom Hearts on stream, I think. Sorry. Okay. When I was playing Kingdom Hearts on stream, I think I told you this. There's a bit of a Weyland issue where... I use Weyland as much as possible because it's just the better one, blah, blah, blah. You're the Weyland show. You know why. When I use Weyland and run Kingdom Hearts,
Starting point is 01:16:02 it has a wine mono C++ error that to my knowledge still has not been solved yet. X11 fixes things for some reason. I don't know why. I'm hoping like and this is not just a Kingdom Hearts 1.5 or 2.5 thing. It's also happened with like Microsoft Flight Sim and some other games sometimes Sometimes it just crashes saying, hey, there's a C++ error. I don't know how to do that. It just does it, you know. But sometimes I have to switch to X7 because I am playing something like Kingdom Hearts or whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:38 But if I'm just, like, playing, you know, any other game in existence, I just use Wavelet. And it just works great yeah that's so weird i've i've never seen that prop like anything of that nature happening well you played 0.2 on stream with your yeah and that does it no issue no issue at all okay three is not having an issue i was 2.5 thing then yeah maybe maybe.5, 2.5 has an issue. I've not heard anyone else report the problem. So I wonder if anyone's on ProtonDB Kingdom. Hearts, 2.5, ProtonDB.
Starting point is 01:17:19 It could just be something weird about your system. I don't know. I've certainly seen issues like this before. I don't think it's just my system because I've seen the same issue on other people's systems, too, with different games. I've tried, like, a bunch of Proton versions. I tried, like, Proton GE. I tried regular Proton.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Nothing doesn't really want to work. Yeah, I'm not seeing anyone else report it, so I don't really know what's happening for you. Yeah, I know I saw the issue on github uh for a different issue okay like a different game as well so it's like i don't know maybe it's a race condition i'm not entirely sure right like uh that back to my point is like btubing and just using linux in general for content creation is not as hard as people think it is. Like, sure, there is a learning curve, but, like,
Starting point is 01:18:09 you gotta learn stuff eventually. Like, people learn stuff every day. Like, you gotta bite the bullet. You gotta see if it's for you or not. Like, if you wanna stick to using Windows 10, or if you don't have any privacy concerns, I don't know why you wouldn't, but if you don't have any privacy concerns with, like, recall or whatever,
Starting point is 01:18:24 sure. I've got nothing to hide my mom fucking says that all the time i'm like yes you do i've got nothing to hide i've got no like just just replace that with i've got nothing to steal so why should i lock my car it's like what like why should i lock my house like it's such a it's such a i i get why people say it but there's there's like no thought going through your head when you say it yeah like um i think anyone even if you're not a vtuber even just like a content creator even just your regular user you should try linux you should try it in a virtual machine or you know get a separate hard drive install it there because dual booting is kind of picky on on the same hard drive um go install like ubuntu even if it's not
Starting point is 01:19:18 a great distro it works right or mint or pop os, try it, see if you like it. And if it, like, 99% of your use case works, which it does with me, the only issue that I've had, Kingdom Hearts 2 Randomizer does not work on Linux, because OpenKH, the mod manager, doesn't work. I know they're wanting to fix that with, like, Steam Deck stuff, but, like, it's the only thing I'm missing from Windows is kh2 randomizer everything and foobar but like i can just not do that everything else works and so like yeah of course i'm a special linux why not no hmm like i think other people should have that like mentality of like i want to try new things instead of just relying on the same operating system.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Like, they should go out and try new things, you know, instead of just you know, look into the windows. Yeah. I get why especially creatives don't do it just because of tooling that blocks them. Yeah, if you're on Adobe, there's
Starting point is 01:20:23 I can't convince you you have to you actually can stick to windows kind of sort of get creative cloud working some people have done it but there's no guarantee that it's going to keep working that's that's the big issue uh reminds me uh i remember when i was on windows i used to have a program called figma figma and figma is like a ui program yeah yeah yeah yeah i use my scheduler for that like if you look at some of my old you're on my server you can look at the schedules chat if you look at my old schedules they're made using figma because it's like i think i paid like a few bucks for the template and i just used it and it works right right i thought okay well i don't really like that
Starting point is 01:21:11 schedule i'm using now i want to go for a different vibe i want to uh i want to use a psd file for like a more custom tempo because also my week is not monday to friday and saturday center my weekends my week is friday to tuesday wednesday and thursdays are my days off because i have a weird night shift schedule so friday to tuesday is my stream schedule friday is my first day tuesday is my last day i want a five-day schedule just put it on there i don't like the weird like boxes it says text i want to show the game art itself made a new sketch template it was gonna be debuting that from my one point if i was by the time this episode was out there's probably i'm probably gonna be debuting 1.5 so i'm showing my background right now um when i switched to lin, and I'm like, okay, I'll just use Figma for now.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'll, you know, whatever. It didn't work. The schedule widget didn't work. It just didn't work. And I was like, oh, God, I have to learn GIMP. So it took me a day or two to, like, learn how do I move an object? How do I, like, shift things? Thank God Canva works, because Canva I use for my thumbnails, and it's like, I prefer
Starting point is 01:22:27 like drag and drop stuff, whereas like if I used GIMP, it's not as intuitive to me, because I'm someone that if I want to move something, I just click it and drag it. With GIMP, you have to press M or Control-M. If you want to scale something,
Starting point is 01:22:44 you have to press Control-S. If you want to crop something, you have to press Shift-C M if you want to scale press control S if you want to crop something you have to press shift C it's like it hurt my brain I don't understand why they have it like this I do not know I cannot explain it to you
Starting point is 01:22:59 I will never understand it I think games started around the start of Photoshop 1. So, like, there's no reason, and Photoshop 1 had already built in a lot of this core, like, design logic anyway. Yeah, yeah, no, eight years after Photoshop, so probably by Photoshop 2 by then. I can't even get, like, text so i haven't used some convoluted method and it's like that in gimp 3 thumbnails in gimp 3 they now have a text outline function yo yo yeah it's taken them from putting a feature that should have been there in the start it should
Starting point is 01:23:41 have been you're right they also have multi-layer tooling now so you can now select multiple lays at the same time good i i hate i hate switching like if i want to move like two game days to like two separate game days like kingdom arts 2 i have like monday and tuesday if i want to like friday saturday for some reason i have to manually select logo bag it over game art bag it over if i can just like you said if it's multi-selected that works for me yeah if you just control click or shift click depending on how your layers are ordered and what works better and just drag them like good andy since again i feature has been implemented at the start yeah yeah again this was eight years after photoshop came out there was no like some of the design choices they've made i don't understand why they were ever made like that yeah i getcha it's just it's just
Starting point is 01:24:41 most developers like are great are great, right? But they sometimes don't have design tendencies, you know what I mean? They just, programs say the works for them, everyone else, ah, fuck them. I'll just stick to what I use. It's the gnome situation. There is a, there is a decorations, what's that? There is a really, really good article. The link to it is Gnome Bad.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Gnome Bad. I'm probably going to talk about this on a stream. We've had Pro Bono say Waylon Bad. Now we have this guy saying Gnome Bad. The difference between Pro Bono and this is this is actually really well written and pretty much every point this guy brings up is completely valid about gnome just being a mess to use well as a base gnome hater i appreciate this like from every single point it goes over from the um the like the the launch application like when you first open the gnome tour i was like trying to like show you how gnome works and how
Starting point is 01:25:53 it's just completely broken it doesn't actually teach you anything how like on a desktop with a system that does not have a touch screen it still gives you, like, touch controls in the Tour. It goes deep into the whole, like, GNOME phone interface. The obsession with iOS-style lists on everything, even though they just don't fit on a desktop. The giant black bar that takes up the entire top of your screen
Starting point is 01:26:24 but has three buttons in it uh it goes oh go on and you go i was gonna say also client-side decorations and how it leads to completely inconsistent application design and apps that don't make any sense and a bunch of other problems it's like they're allergic to server-side decorations or something I swear. Imagine that. Yeah. Oh! I was gonna say was... Sorry, just one more thing while we're here. Do you ever double click on the top of an application to fullscreen it? Why? I don't think I... I don't think I do, no. Okay, well you can do that. On GNOME, because they have the client-side decorations and the top bar is full of buttons, you have to work out where in the top bar is not a button if you actually want to use that function.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Oh, do you mean like maximizing a window? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I had that, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. i had that okay yeah yeah yeah um that can be defaulted as like single click to open stuff but they thankfully did to double click oh yeah yeah like yeah well that's because every downstream changes to double click anyway so they're like wait why all of the developers i've spoken to they think that single click is better but none of the users do it could be better but like i like sticking to what i know you know yeah yeah um yeah i was gonna say was um a weird thing about my workflow and you made a
Starting point is 01:27:57 video on this the uh libadwaita situation so face tracker is an application that i use to you know track my face. Yeah. You know, the name says itself, when I'm using YouTube Studio. Mm-hmm. When I, hold on. I want to, I would screen share this, but I will probably ruin the video. So, like, take my word for it.
Starting point is 01:28:20 When, so this is a bad way to Face Tracker. Mm-hmm. If I move my cursor over to the window, it just makes the cursor bigger for some reason and it changes the style of it i hate that so much like i want my consistency that's why i don't like the bad way to oh yeah that's definitely like both face track yeah face tracker but also you know another app that uses live by wada stream controller so there are two so i use an elgato stream deck for like a lot oh yeah that one setups and everything i'm really hoping global shortcuts happen because i don't want to have to you know focus on my youtube window to use my keyboard shortcuts i want to use this you know globally but when i need to like set up my stream back or add a new button also uses
Starting point is 01:29:10 uh the bad way does well change controller works more uh boatswain does not i try boatswain it just doesn't work for me so if you were to ever get uh stream deck, a stream controller, it just works. Okay, I'll keep that in mind. But even then, I don't like how Libadwaita kind of ruins a lot of consistency for my desktop. Because I'm someone that really likes my QT programs and everything just kind of works. And then Gnome is like, we're going to do things differently and fuck up your entire system. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Yep. It's why I don't like Gnome. It's why I switched to KDE because they have their issues, yes, but they actually know what users want. Mm-hmm. They have consistency. I wonder how well split up this application is.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I wonder if I could sit down and make a QT interface for this. For what? For stream controller. Oh my god, if you would do that, I would. I don't know if they tie in a lot of the functionality into the UI. If they don't, it probably wouldn't be that difficult. Let me look up something. I'll have to examine the code to see how it's actually done but no i i completely agree i think that's on i continue to get up after the recording but yeah yeah at least looking like just taking a brief look i can't really tell but yeah um it's probably all tied together which would be fun
Starting point is 01:30:45 oh wait there's a folder called backend wait take back everything I said hopefully hopefully the folder called backend actually includes the backend and you don't have a bunch of stuff tied to the UI if I ever get bored and want to write a QT application maybe
Starting point is 01:31:01 we do that what's the last time you made, like, a software project? Most of the things I do now are just things that I need. So it's like, oh, I need, so, like, I rewrote my bookmark script and things like that. I haven't sat down and done, like, a really big project in quite a while, though.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Mostly, like, config files, that type of stuff. Um, it's mostly just, like, random little scripts here and there that just like do things that i i need done like the user scripts that like programs right right right yeah okay um i i i don't know i i definitely would like to sit down and actually write a big project again at some point um i like programming it's just i have other things I like doing as well and I know
Starting point is 01:31:47 one thing I did want to mention was I will be doing programming streams and I know I did a vote of like what should I learn and people said like web dev I should learn I'll do that a little bit but like my main thing that I really want to learn is Rust which is just a cool ass language
Starting point is 01:32:03 and I'm so angry that people with the current language don't like it, for some reason, you know. It's like the old guard trying to protect their holy sea, or whatever. It's like, unironically, the future is now, old man, basically.
Starting point is 01:32:19 It's very funny that you say the term holy sea. Are you aware of what holy sea is? I know what holy sea is i know what holy sea is okay okay just like there's sacred sea but i know what holy sea is okay just had to make sure yeah i know what temple s is okay okay um like sure there's the meaning of like oh haha rust rewrite and this and that sometimes it's necessary because russ is actually really good um and i want to learn it i want to see how it works and i don't know maybe i'll be the most obnoxious trans arch kde vtuber that uses rust all like
Starting point is 01:33:01 the most hated stuff in tech. Roll it into me. I don't think KDE's on that list of most hated stuff. Gotta become a GNOME user. Get me the altars. Become a GNOME user
Starting point is 01:33:17 first and then you'll be good. I will never switch to GNOME. You will not make me. Ubuntu core GNOME user. Full Snap desktop. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Hate that. I hate that. Snaps are just blah. Snap to the kernel. Snap to the kernel? No, that's actually what it is with Ubuntu Core. The kernel is a snap. They have a separate boot process that launches snap at a lower
Starting point is 01:33:48 level, so they can run the kernel as a snap. What next, a flatpack kernel? Look. This is one of the advantages of flatpack not being great for non-graphical
Starting point is 01:34:04 applications. Nobody has thought to do that. flatpack not being great for non graphical applications nobody has thought to do that now don't tempt them because someone will try if someone could boot Arch off of a Google Drive yes that did happen yes well there's a guy who wrote a a um linux kernel loader in uh in scratch so oh no yeah no scratch i didn't really use it but i know people use it sonic fan games are on there that doesn't surprise me actually scratch is really easy to learn i i every time i look at it it i'm sure if i actually sat down and learned the language it would be easy but because i've never actually done a drag and drop language it seems even more complex to me than any like any other regular language yeah like i can look at c code
Starting point is 01:34:58 even if i don't know that like the the language like the structure makes sense to me yeah back to rust i'm really hoping that the colonel people actually talk with the rust people and not stereotype them or whatever because like i don't know maybe i'll dabble into that if i learn rust because i can do that but like i i russ is great i don't like people saying it like oh haha rust rewrite that's their entire personality when the people who are using c in the kernel are doing the same thing but unironically where it's like well c works so you haha it's like try other things it's it's the exact same situation i have the fucking vtuber thing people need to try new things and not get hung up by their old ways basically well what you have is c developers who've made their entire career being a c developer and some of them have
Starting point is 01:35:57 been to the kernel for like 30 years so i get it? And engineers are very, very particular about the tools they use. Yeah. But there are these subsystems that have a lot of young developers in them that are a lot more open to accepting, like in the graphic subsystem. The graphic subsystem is a ton of Rust people,
Starting point is 01:36:21 but a lot of other things, it's going to take a lot of time and this was gonna happen like this is not a rust thing this was gonna happen with any language if they tried to bring in c++ which did happen at one point linus shut it down very quickly the exact same thing would have happened if they try in the future to do zig the exact same thing's gonna happen people are going to push back against any major architectural changes just any changes in general that like disrupt like their workflow you know unless you're a big cash fs and you're doing it wrong well he's trying to disrupt everyone else's workflow that's the problem exactly no one else is on his side he's like i'm gonna do my thing
Starting point is 01:37:03 you're all gonna listen to me. Like, no. No, we're not, actually. He's got, like, mutual respect, and yet he showed he has no respect for Linus. You know? Yeah. Well, what he wants is mutual respect, but it's people respect him. Like, he's not going to... He will only respect you once you start respecting him but
Starting point is 01:37:26 he doesn't understand that like you need to both approach the table to make this happen like why would anyone come to the table to respect you if you aren't gonna give them respect from the start this is not like a it would be one thing if this was like the first time occurrence and line is like oh angry but like he's done this for years and years at this point even before being mainlined and i don't know is is i don't i don't see anything changing i shouldn't think that because of us should have been in the first place given that you know i shouldn't one guy wasn't kent i think his name is had a lot of like reputation beforehand like he
Starting point is 01:38:05 wasn't good to work with before so like i kind of see what line is thinking with like maybe mainline this would have helped the workflow but it clearly hasn't worked so like i wouldn't be surprised if we saw b cash if it's just kind of gone yeah and it's like, month or so. Hmm. I don't know. If it does get removed, that would be great content. I would watch that day one, minute one. Because I'm sure he's going to release a... I'm sure Kent would release a blog post about it, ranting about it being removed as well. Then he'll make his own kernel. Well, what he's probably going to do is...
Starting point is 01:38:42 Like, I don't even think the SystemD guy is going to, like, make his own kernel, because he's trying to do something with, like, sudo. What is, uh, what, what, um, would probably end up happening, he's probably gonna go around to different, um, distros, and trying to get it, like, mainlined in their kernel, but a lot of distros aren't running massive submodules that are, like, in their, like, are like in their like original in their core kernel
Starting point is 01:39:07 like Arch is a fairly clean kernel it has a couple of patches, Fedora has a really clean kernel, Ubuntu has probably the most changes but even so, I really doubt they would ship some random experimental file system that got booted out of the
Starting point is 01:39:23 kernel, like that just doesn't seem to align with what I know from this space. Potentially CacheOS may do that because they have their own kernel. Sorry? Potentially CacheOS. Do you know about CacheOS?
Starting point is 01:39:40 CacheOS has its own kernel. Maybe he'd approach them? Maybe. CacheOS is kind and like, I cannot stop hearing Kylo talk about Cassios, and I'm like, I don't wanna switch to that, stop talking about that, and he's like, but you gotta, it's cool, and I'm like, no, stop. Oh, right, right, the, um, yeah yeah yeah, the Arch-based one, yeah, I do remember hearing about this one. The one that supposedly has, like, fixes to gaming or whatever, it's like, I'm fine with what I want, like, I was thinking about switching to the CacheOS current to see what it's like. How you do that is you don't just install the CacheOS current and everything else is working.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Basically have to convert your entire Arch install to a cache os install and i don't want to do that because i like arch too much i don't want to switch needlessly you know if it works for me it works for my workflow i'm gonna fucking take it i'm just gonna switch because like oh this could have one fps increase. Okay, and? Catchy OS features the optimized Linux Catchy OS kernel utilizing the advanced Bore scheduler for unparalleled performance. I don't like anyone who includes stuff like this. If you're going to say things like performance,
Starting point is 01:41:02 please include some sort of actual benchmark or metric i can look at even if it's like you know those fake marketing graphs you see from nvidia and amd where it's like 50 more performance 300 more performance at least that's something more like that's some level of effort over just saying it's fast believe me it's fast yeah i get that and if you haven't done those benchmarks why are you claiming it's fast you don't actually know yeah and like only one person's really even talking about it some youtuber named air max or something yeah only one i've seen talk about that yeah yeah yeah i i i oh no i have seen this channel yes yes i do know who that is yeah yeah yeah like you know broke be like make a nixos people bespoke people be like make a cash us video
Starting point is 01:42:07 oh oh no i thought it was a district tube video no it was an ebuzz central video oh no distro tube did do a video a year ago about it i doubt he looked like deep into it because when he was doing distro review stuff it was very much like level very very yeah that's why that's why i like that's why the linux cast so much because he actually does like long-term reviews of stuff. Yeah, like I watched the next video. It's great. Mm-hmm Yeah, that's why I don't really do distro review stuff because there's not really There's not really much to be said about a whole distro. I would rather focus on Individual pieces like if I'm gonna do a distro review It's got to be on a distro that does something weird like yeah with their source-based package management or nix os or vanilla os open kylan
Starting point is 01:42:53 oh you're open kylan yeah yeah yeah this is a weird thing why i don't i don't know i i get you yeah like but even then it's it's me focusing on the tech rather than the distro itself because like the distro is really just a it's just a convenient grouping of individual tools a lot of those tools can be used outside of that distro context, like the desktop obviously, where that's like KDE, GNOME, things like that. Even if it's a heavily customized version of KDE or GNOME, those extensions are probably open source, and you can probably install them on another distro and get the exact same experience. Like Ubuntu GNOME is just GNOME with some GNOME extensions, and get the exact same experience like ubuntu gnome is just gnome
Starting point is 01:43:45 with some gnome extensions and all the extensions are out there and you can have the exact same setup on arch linux or fedora or anything else big difference between a lot of uh distro it's like the big three debian fedora and art is like how fast do you want updates? Right, right. And what's your preferred package manager? If you want just no updates, I don't want to worry about it, you go Debian. If you're like, well, I kind of want some updates here and there, but not too much, you go Fedora. If you're a crazy person like me and you,
Starting point is 01:44:20 where like, I want all the updates, you can do Arch. I like my updates. i want everything to be updated i'm like things i don't want to have a thought of this program isn't working because it is out of date i want the latest version immediately you know so besides getting it from the get or whatever actually it's fun when you bring up the whole idea of like arch being up to date because there actually was a period where Arch was incredibly out of date um I think it was like two years ago at this point it's been a while ago
Starting point is 01:44:50 now um where there was some issues with getting GCC updated where I think it was like six months out of date I think by that point Ubuntu was actually on a newer version of GCC.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Jesus Christ. It doesn't happen often, but there are these weird edge cases where Arch does fall behind, but most of the time, you're pretty much gonna be good. Yeah. It's mostly up to date
Starting point is 01:45:21 on like the important stuff, basically. Like Plasma 6.2 will probably be out Within like maybe I I would be surprised if it wasn't out by the end of the week And when it comes I'm getting it mmm there's a lot of court Do you know what like changes they have to 6.2 if you looked into it? Uh, I haven't I nothing I Know that, like, uh, yeah, Nick's done a video on it, so.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Yeah. Uh, I, I've not looked into it deeply. The only thing that's really stood out to me is SVG Curses. Yep. And I've got a video coming out on that very soon. The branding. Here we go. OMG Ubuntu. What does OMG Ubuntu have to say about it? What is new?
Starting point is 01:46:03 Uh, power management? Don't care. Minor visual changes? Don't care. Uh, color- Oh, if you do, um, any HDR and color management stuff, that's going to be enabled by default now.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Uh- I don't have HDR monitors. I do have night light, which is kind of buggy sometimes. Oh, yeah, the, um... The... Is it the cursor issue? Or is that an issue that Kylo had? Cursor issue? What?
Starting point is 01:46:39 Where the cursor didn't get colored. Oh, that was me. Oh, it was you. Okay, yeah, yeah. It was on Weyland. In fact, I'm, it was you. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was on Weyland. In fact, I'm seeing it right now. Like, my cursor is, like, not nightlight, but everything else is nightlight. Did they fix that in 6.2?
Starting point is 01:46:58 I don't see any mention of it, but it seems like this is a fairly... Does it even mention SVG cursors? No, this article doesn't even mention SVG cursors. It seems like a fairly boring update, to be fair. Which is what 6.2 should be. Seems a lot of quality of life fixes. If they fix that cursor issue on Weyland, oh, I'll be set. Yeah, if you want to have a look through the raw change log list you can go ahead and do so but
Starting point is 01:47:27 i doubt that's gonna be fixed was there ever a uh a bug report for it report for the cursor thing yeah yeah haven't made one yet i'll make one eventually well yeah it's not it's not breaking my system but like it's like it is a little important, but like it's not too boring I mean, mm-hmm. No, oh my cursor is blue instead of orange. Mm-hmm It's not like my game don't work, right? Right The only reason I don't do the nightlight stuff now is I tend to update or I tend to make my thumbnails at night So I kind of need my colors to look right while I'm doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:12 I like Nightlight because... Go on. Oh, go on. I like Nightlight because I usually use, like, my computer a little later on at night especially on like the weekends or whatever um when i'm like doing my streams it's not on usually but like uh when i go to work i usually have it off anyway but when i'm like tonight or tomorrow like when i'm off work i like to be late at night on the computer or whatever and like i don't want the blue light blinding me same thing with like my phone as well like phone nightlight is great but um i do see like if i want to get some work done and like some color stuff then yeah i could probably turn off but like i usually do very
Starting point is 01:48:58 minimal editing when it comes to like my thumbnails and my uh schedule and like anything that requires me you know when any sort of editing editing as well um i don't really worry about like color questions kind of put together just see what happens sure sure and i i usually am fine with nightlight but like if i ever get more serious about video editing if I install DaVinci I may worry about that but like I don't know well I'm usually I'm usually doing my thumbnails
Starting point is 01:49:33 while I'm like half paying attention to anime in the background as well I need to watch some anime oh we were going to talk about fucking Onken Midnight weren't we yeah there's like 10 minutes left till till the end of this we uh we can talk about it or we can save it for for your show you could save it for my show actually that'll probably better because i know i want to talk
Starting point is 01:49:55 about anime stuff with you is there any topics you want to talk about um is this i guess this is one short thing uh i thing it kind of just came out the Alamo thing oh my god did you see my tweet about that? I don't know anything about it, I just saw pictures of it and people talking about it what the hell is this thing?
Starting point is 01:50:18 I want you to look at my tweet okay I'll look at your tweet there we go here we go, yes there we go Okay, I'll look at your tweet. There we go. Here we go. Yes, there we go. Okay. Mobius1, wake up.
Starting point is 01:50:36 We have 20 miles coming at you right now. No, no, no. That's not it. That's an Ace Combat joke. I don't think you play Ace Combat. Send it to you in DMs. Okay. Oh, yep, yep yep yep uh so is it finally time to start the d amazon process with this because i use uh amazon echo devices ah i use an echo show uh on my bedroom and use an echo dot in my shower. I know, the Linux privacy-preserving person using Amazon devices.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I know, it's bad. But, like, I got it for free. I didn't pay for it. It was a gift. I'll use it. But this probably doesn't listen in on you, so I may use this. Like, all I use for my Echo show nowadays is just an alarm clock. So, like, buy it as well, you know.
Starting point is 01:51:24 But it does look really neat um i'm not really a big nintendo person because something something it's always morally correct but uh this looks neat it looks kind of kind of cool um i'll probably get it i don't know it depends on what sort of feature i know there's like a trailer i could probably watch sometime. I'll probably react to it on my own streams, but like, looks cool, I guess. Wait, uh, what is this? Alarma has a sensor that reacts to your movement so you can snooze the alarm
Starting point is 01:51:53 with gestures and end it by getting out of bed. That seems kind of neat. It's cool. It doesn't listen to me or do whatever. Yeah, it seems like it just has motion sensors. What a weird device. It kind of just came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:52:14 That reminds me that every major console nowadays runs FreeBSD or something. The PlayStation has a bunch of FreeBSD in it. I think the Switch has a bunch of free BSD in it. Uh, I think the Switch has a bunch of free BSD in it. Uh, the Xbox is Windows. Um. Obviously. But yeah, I'm pretty sure the Switch has a bunch of free BSD in it. I could be.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Free BSD in general. BSD, yeah, free BSD. Yeah, because it's based on the 3DS OS, which is also FreeBSD. Oh, some FreeBSD. It's not entirely FreeBSD, but, you know. If you're building an OS for a system and there's already something open source
Starting point is 01:52:59 and it has a license that you can just make proprietary, why not just use it? Yeah, pretty much. It's just crazy to think that you can just make proprietary, why not just use it? Pretty much. It's just crazy to think that a lot of gaming companies use not Windows, but just FOSS-based stuff. Some people don't realize that a lot of proprietary projects are based on FOSS in some way or another. I don't know if you can do this on the modern ones,
Starting point is 01:53:24 but on the ps3 if you dig into the the settings there is an option to view all of the licenses that are like are used in the software and there's a bunch of random shit in there and you can do it on ps3 okay yeah i've done that one time and i was like what is all of this i don't know about ps4 and ps5 ps3 definitely has that there I'm sure they're there somewhere or maybe it's like listed on the website I'm sure there is as well like I have my ps5 sitting next to me I could check it out but like It's probably there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:53:54 But you'll see things like code licensed under the beerware license Which is a very fun license I know about that Yeah the clause is basically, if you ever see me, you buy me a beer. Yeah, it's like, if you like my software, you can buy me a beer or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Which is a neat license. I wouldn't use it for, like, any important stuff, but, like, you know, it is there. I think technically it's not open source because of it. It's a meme license. Yeah. But there's stuff under like GPLV2, there's a lot of MIT stuff, a lot of BSD stuff, and every license you could imagine. I know Vim uses like some sort of separate license where it's like if you like my stuff uh support like a ugandan charity or something yeah yeah the uh the guy who made vim he never wanted to make money
Starting point is 01:54:50 from it um so all of the money that goes into the project i can't remember the name of the charity but yeah it's i think it might be ugandan charity yeah it was it was some charity that i really really liked like i believe when he died i think like uh there was some big donation from like his estate or something to the charity or something like that um yeah yeah it is it is uganda um what is the charity what's the full charity called i'm on their website right now, but their website's very slow. The ICCF Holland, I think is what it is. ICCF Holland? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:41 The International Child Care Fund for Holland. Yeah. Oh, okay. For Holland, whatever. Yeah yeah he's probably from holland yeah yeah yeah um yeah but yeah it's just it just sends money to uganda uh and bill i think they build wells and stuff there uh look great cause basically that I'm not sure on the full details, but my understanding is it's a great cause. It's a decent license, too. It's basically like... Would Vembe be sort of charity wear?
Starting point is 01:56:13 Yes, yes. It is one of the very few examples people bring up when they bring up the concept of charity wear. Yeah. I don't even know of any good other examples of charity wear um oh here we go uh fire ftp pzip oh no okay i'll use pzip uh another point i'm extracting seven zip files. Ah, yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh Yeah, there we go it helps AIDS victims in Uganda, that's what they do Oh And it has been declared the the charity where license of him has has been declared GPL compatible by Richard Stallman
Starting point is 01:57:04 nice by Richard Stallman. Nice. Yeah. I checked out Richard Stallman's website. You know that website is just a big block of text with a white background? Let me see. Richard Stallman. I haven't been to it in a while. That does not surprise me
Starting point is 01:57:20 at all, though. I see. Yes. No, it actually has... Oh has oh no it has a little bit of a little tiny bit of css uh if you hover over links there's a there's a glow behind them that's it it's as simple of design as you can get but i kind of respect it because you know almost very much you know the free software absolutist so like it kind of makes sense wait as much as you disagree get, but I kind of respect it, because, you know, Stallman's very much, you know, the free software absolutist, so, like, it kind of makes sense. Mm-hmm. As much as you disagree on Rich Stallman about
Starting point is 01:57:50 some stuff, I do respect the guy. Oh, yeah. And Linus, too, but I, you know, like Linus a lot. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I think what Stallman has done, for the most part, has been fairly productive. I do think the FSF today is a shell of its former self and doesn't really do anything. It kind of just, like,
Starting point is 01:58:15 it, today the FSF kind of just talks to the people that already agree with them. They don't really try to change anything in the world. The big example of why FSF has kind of fallen off, I need to say two words, gnu boot. Say that and you're like, I get you now. Yeah, I... Oh, I will say this before we end things off. I am really curious,
Starting point is 01:58:43 since we're talking about emulation a little bit. Lear Road is going gonna fork Duck Station? Yeah, I don't think... I haven't spoken fully with Leah about what she's doing there. I updated that, you can make a video on.
Starting point is 01:59:03 I did check. Yeah, she mentioned it beforehand, I updated that you can make a video on I I need to check yeah she mentioned it beforehand like before it all happened to me in DMs in a when when Leah is one of these people who will just like send you
Starting point is 01:59:19 a hundred messages without you responding to a single one of them. Yeah, people like that. I'm not entirely... She talks a lot about LibriBoot. It's somewhere in here. Makes sense, she's a LibriBoot dev.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Yeah, but like, again, posts a lot of messages about it. I'm not too sure what's happening. I know she forked it and wants to provide them infrastructure so they can work on it uh but i don't know if that's actually gonna go anywhere as a project i hope it does because like you know she's a trans dev i'm a trans dev i respect her uh in that way but also like she talks a lot of but if she wants to get stuff done she gets stuff done basically yeah i was watching the the libre boot video about her using canoe
Starting point is 02:00:13 boot and she was like ranting she's like by the way here's the page there's a lot more there that i that happened in dms i'm i'm not going to make public, but there's so much more to, like, what the rant could have included. Yeah. Oh, no, she can be a little much, but she's great. Oh, definitely. This one I've seen. It's not just, this is not just, like,
Starting point is 02:00:40 posting 100 messages to me. Every single interaction that Leahah has does this like if you if you look at her irc logs when she like jumped into like the fsf chat it's the exact same thing it's like message message message message it just keeps going and no one's responding they're like are you gonna let me just like get a word in here somewhere. Yeah, as soon as I get my VT.social account, someone for approval on from Lina, I'm going to follow her. I'm going to follow a bunch of people on Fediverse.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I'm going to use the Fediverse, because, like, I really want to use it, but, like, I don't have an account. Right. And I want VT.social. I have my old, like, civilian is, like, my non-VT. So my civilian account,
Starting point is 02:01:26 I don't want to use that publicly. want to use my venny one well so whenever lena checks and it approves it it's been like a month i'll use it what you could do is make an account on another instance and then transfer the account over when you get access to the vt social one it could do that like i could probably use like macedon or something i don't know what do you use for uh for vetiver to use macedon i'm on macedon.social right now i haven't found anywhere else that uh you know i use like linux.rocks yeah i was on linux rocks before yeah yeah and they had a bunch of drama there um so i ended up moving off yeah i want to use fediverse it's just people were using blue sky and it's kind of fucky and i'm it's it's i would i had a draft tweet that i made tweets sometime where it's just like blue sky is just diet fediverse yeah for people it's
Starting point is 02:02:21 for people who hate twitter who don't want to switch to the better Twitter, just Fediverse, and just want, like, a weird in-between, basically. I have an account there, just to be safe, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I made an account there, like, ages back. I just haven't used it. Maybe I made one post. I think I made one post, too, and I just have not used it since. It's just there in case, like, on the off chance it does take off like it's there i might use it
Starting point is 02:02:47 in here but we've passed the uh the two hour mark now so um let people know where they can find you yeah um i stream on twitch uh friday to tuesday at 4 to 7 3030 PST. My Twitch is twitch.tv slash Venituber. That is V-E-N-I-T-U-B-E-R. One word. No underscores. I'm also on Twitter, and I have a Discord server too, which is on my link tree.
Starting point is 02:03:17 I was on my link tree somewhere. Yeah. That's where you can find me. And this will probably be way past upload date but you're gonna be on my show this friday it's gonna be great that is going to be the case yes um we'll see how that goes we'll see a lot more unhinged than this episode this guy got a little unhinged but on grumlin is gonna be really unhinged that sounds like a little fun that definitely sounds a little fun we can then talk about um wonga midnight as well
Starting point is 02:03:49 wonga midnight i'll convince you and talk about vtubers i want you to show off your anime figure collection during that stream i can i can certainly try we'll see what i we'll see what i can do um is that all you want to mention um yeah i wouldn't mention my 1.5 but like that's probably gonna be already big view by the time this episode's out so like i like kingdom hearts and linux follow me kingdom hearts is cool yeah kingdom hearts will be out one day and that'll be that'll be that'll be nice singling too hope. Yeah. Anyway, my stuff, my main channel is Brody Robertson. I do Linux videos there six-ish days a week. I've got the gaming channel Brody on Games.
Starting point is 02:04:32 I stream on Twitch and YouTube. There is a Brody Robertson Reacts where I upload stream clips to. If you want to see bullshit. I'm in some of them. Yeah, you're in some of them. I'm in the chat. you want to see bullshit. I'm in some of them. Yeah, you're in some of them.
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