Tech Over Tea - You Have Terrible Data Privacy Practices | Trafotin

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, and good evening. Welcome to episode 155, I want to say. Yeah, that's probably right. Tech of a T. Welcome back to the show. Today we have a new guest. Welcome to the show. I actually don't know how to say your name.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I've never heard you say, is it Trafton? Traffotin. Traffotin. Traffotin. Welcome to the show. How's it going? If you're gonna read the actual katakana that I showed
Starting point is 00:00:27 at the beginning of the video, it would be like, and I had to take a lot of liberties because I actually don't know as much Japanese as people like to think I know. It's like Turafotino. It's something like that. It's something. Tano? I think it's Tano. But it's yeah, I don't know a lot
Starting point is 00:00:43 of much about Japanese. I just, I do know some characters, like if you show them to me, but it's probably because I saw an anime and I recognized the first character and I'm like, oh, I know what that is. Like, like I saw Code Geass. So it's like, oh, so I know Ko, I know what Ko looks like. And then it ends right there. Yeah. I, I have been, I don't want to say studying studying is not the correct word
Starting point is 00:01:07 um loosely entertaining the idea of learning japanese for like the past i don't know year or two i've been doing some kanji stuff every so often slowly making progress but there is absolutely no world where i'll describe what i know as good or functional i know enough where like i can get the gist of what's going on but if you expect me to reply in a conversation there is no chance that's happening well one interesting thing is i i it's happened twice i think there was someone actually started asking me questions, but I could tell they knew French. So I made half of my response in French and half of my response in English, and they were like, oh my gosh, you know, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Merci beaucoup. And I'm like, great, thank you. So yeah, I do know a little bit of French. I know a little bit of Spanish. No, I know more French, English and French. I know Spanish just a little bit of french i know a little bit of spanish i know no i know more french english and french i know spanish just a little bit and uh japanese and chinese you need to go and start one of the uh the polyglot channels they do so well on youtube oh do they oh do they really they they know they're gonna know those people they sell they're like parasocial relationships selling their lives uh-huh like i'm it's you know it's true it's like they
Starting point is 00:02:25 just like look at me go out to some supermarket in japan and it's like you're asking to get jumped like what's up like it's true like have you ever wondered like all those those those like twitch streamers or like youtube live streamers who like they're like look at me clean my house today or whatever it's like that's like or like you know some this is a funny one i won't say who um i was watching i was watching someone and she looks out her window and she's like why are they capturing an like an animal like outside of my house but the problem is because she said that if you looked up that animal that they said they were capturing, you could find out exactly where she lived. And like, there are very few like people who like take this into account like,
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'm like, there are some people like for example, no, I shouldn't say it. I would don't come off as toxic. I don't want to say it. Wait, this hasn't already been toxic no doxing like doxing i think it's toxic no definitely okay okay this is there weren't toxic people but like if you just think about like the situation like you can figure out like exactly where someone is well if you consider um what was it uh he cannot divide us is that, he cannot divide us. Is that what it was? You cannot divide us? Whatever it was called. Back when, uh, people were finding where this stupid flag was located based on
Starting point is 00:03:51 flight patterns. Oh, is this the Shia LaBeouf fortune story? Yeah, the Shia LaBeouf thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People were working out where the flag was based on flight patterns. Don't show anything in your life unless you want people to find it. Because there are some absolute crazy people out there who will find you. Well, that's how I feel about who is privacy every day.
Starting point is 00:04:12 But it's okay. When I, when I, sorry. So you have a domain name. You can relate to this. I don't know where you bought yours. I won't, I won't pry if you're, if you're okay. No, okay. You can tell me.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I think I've mentioned it before. I buy my stuff from Namecheap. From Namecheap? Okay. Actually, I buy my stuff off of Namecheap too. That's not a secret because you can just look at the Whois information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But one of the things that I did have to do,
Starting point is 00:04:37 this is one thing I'd recommend everyone do if you buy a domain, is I went on my yearly family vacation to see my children but what you do is you you i registered in the hotel that i was staying in uh-huh and using the hotel internet and then what you do is you put in your address it's the hotel you're staying in because technically what they're asking you is where did you where do you live so i said oh i
Starting point is 00:05:05 live in this hotel because i was living in that hotel i lived in that hotel for a week so that's what i did and that's the address that's on my it's on my thing if it ever does get revealed that's actually not a bad idea i had never thought of that because there are all sorts of people who live in hotels because they've i don don't know, they have temporary housing. Sure, sure. They lost their, like, their home got destroyed or something and they're waiting for it to get fixed. There's all sorts of reasons why people could be living in a hotel. There is, I don't know how there are domains out there who, like, where they don't have basic privacy.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I've found some domains doing some sketchy things, and it just has all of their information. Every single service includes who is privacy. There's usually like... A lot of them don't even charge for it. That is not true. I have had to help people who have bought their domains from some more sketchy providers.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay, most of them are major ones. Not even sketchy providers, but formerly the big providers here in the u.s okay okay the worst offender that i've encountered so far was it used to be godaddy but godaddy has now made it so you don't have to pay for it anymore they try to make that a selling point because like wow you don't have to pay for it anymore it's like, guys, you scumbags charged everyone for like years and now you're thinking it's okay? No, get out of here. But the worst one I've encountered so far was Aplus.net.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Aplus.net. And Trine, oh, you've never heard of them? No, I've never heard of them. They are like the most obscure domain provider I've ever heard of. And when I was first approached, I'm like, who are these people? So I looked into these people and their website looks like it was made a million years ago their web portal is broken on like modern web browsers and when you request your ETP code to transfer your domain they just send you your password instead of the actual ETP code so you have to call support you get on the phone you
Starting point is 00:06:59 call support you'll wait an hour and then when they when on the other end of the call the person's like okay so did you did you try doing it through the website we'll do it again for you and i'm like no give me the real code you idiot so they give you the then i wait seven days yeah i have to wait a week they give me the code and then it's finally the random gibberish great thank you get out of my life and that's i'm i'm grateful that i've never had to use them but it's just people got roped into it like in 2009 when they first got started ish around 2009 2010 they kept it up till 2015 and then it's just it was just too entrenched in their lives well okay no i guess that's fair i hadn't really gotten involved in having my own
Starting point is 00:07:43 website into like the past couple of, so I didn't know what it was like in the past, but nowadays there is, unless you're doing some real sketchy stuff, most of the providers that you should care about, I didn't know about GoDaddy charging you for it, most of the sensible
Starting point is 00:07:59 ones should have it there, and if it doesn't, please find someone else. do not have a domain without who is privacy it's very like it's such a unless you're going to use fake information like whatever go ahead no even if you use fake information because there are even though technically you are not protected if you use a fake name because that gives them the right to take your domain away from you because you're not complying if i can't that's fair but if you're doing something sketchy like you know i don't know selling coke or something like i don't think
Starting point is 00:08:34 you care oh that's what people use wicker for yeah well i'm serious like i there used to be like i don't know if it's still around but there there was there's there was a bunch of like wicker for some reason wicker and like wicker is like I'm pretty sure is paywalled off the wazoo now. Oh, you've never heard of it. It's it was like the first like encrypted messaging service at the time. Oh, no. Okay. Allegedly, allegedly, Nico sells was approached by the FBI who asked, hey, could you give us a backdoor pretty please? And I don't know if this was real or not.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But like that was like a story that like flew around around like 2014 ish or whenever they first got started. And I was like, oh, that's really weird. That's why if you watch earlier episodes of Mr. Robot, they do use Wicker because that was the gold standard for the time period. Oh, yeah. The first season of Mr. Robot uses Wicker because that was the gold standard for the time period oh yeah the first season of mr robot uses wicker because that was the gold standard for the time period those people did their research like yeah like right down to like the kinds of phones that like elliot and darlene using the show are real phones people use from the time period they're using like next they're
Starting point is 00:09:38 using nexus phones because that's what people would have used like there's like a nexus 5 or whatever i people would have used back then i haven't finished mr roble yeah i still have the last season to watch but from what i've seen it's a really good i i this is a show that if you've not watched you really need to go and do so like if you are sick of seeing just bullshit hacking in like it's okay as much as I love the nonsense hacking you'll see in like you know CSI or whatever where it's like you know fucking two people on the same keyboard smashing random keys
Starting point is 00:10:14 as fun as that is if you want to see like a realistic portrayal of it obviously you know how would you say it like realistic and entertaining yeah yeah it's not because it could be hacking nonsense mr robot is stuff like you know dot slash blank dot sh and then they do a thing yeah yeah like the funniest one was like i think it was like darling
Starting point is 00:10:39 threatening to delete something off of a computer and it's literally just like python like thing.py i'm like oh that's but the other thing it does really well is there's a lot of social engineering it's not just we are breaking computing systems like how do we manipulate people to you know give us what we want like the first literally the first episode was the first episode with um where it was back was the first episode where he got the dog? Or was that a little bit later? The first episode, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, so that was, you call the phone and you get his phone. He's like, no way, this guy's too old to have a good password. And then, yeah, wait till people get to me. Yeah, I can give people. Actually, I know people much older. There are people on the internet who are much older than me a good password and then yeah wait till people get to me yeah i can give people actually i know people much older there are people on the internet who are much older than me who probably have just a strong password because they use password managers so it's not i don't think it's a barrier thing it's just like an age barrier thing it is literally just like you need to like just
Starting point is 00:11:38 need to do it i think it's really easy it's just a knowledge thing. There's a lot of people who just don't know how bad their passwords are and how bad it is to have the same password on every server. I have had to convince people in my personal life to stop using six-character passwords that are the same thing on every server. The only time they change it is when there is like some random service where they actually have basic password rules if you are
Starting point is 00:12:11 using a six character password just don't even just like a six character password with a 10 character password you're doomed like that's the world we live in today and it's like but do you want to know a password thing i think everyone overlooks it's your phone most people don't have good phone passwords and it's like even if you're on android and you have the pattern unlock the pattern unlock is arguably worse because there's less items of variability and not only that the there are digital forensics people who actually uh what they do is they scan uh like thermal scanners your phone to look at like where your finger has been the most to be fair you don't have to do that because most of the time people don't clean their screens you
Starting point is 00:12:56 just look at the phone like ah well okay that's the pattern or if your phone, like my phone, it has a bit of damage that sort of indicates where the pattern is. You know, wait, did that just move? Maybe I'm just saying shit. Yeah, but I think the cap of Android, there's actually a reason for this. The cap is 16 characters. I believe the cap is lifted if you use one of those Google ROMs or the ungoogled android roms like calyx os or graphene os yeah they lift the limit of 40 and i think 40 is also the limit that's on apple's phones i have not tried the upper ceiling although my password for my phone is definitely up there
Starting point is 00:13:37 um is 16 60 the reason why they do 16 is because it's partially because of the default of like Google's phones because Google's phones have an encryption engine which prevents software from just guessing passwords en masse, which Apple doesn't have. So,
Starting point is 00:13:58 but there's, it's a trade-off. Right. Apple's trade, the trade-off that Apple makes is in exchange for not having that, like their phones are substantially better protected from a boot a boot standpoint they it's a willful trade-off there are many things in the world that are like this they like
Starting point is 00:14:15 you'd say well why don't they do that it's building there's a will it's a willful trade-off because they know they're doing it it's like what happened to lockdown mode lockdown mode won't protect will protect you from an attack but it makes you incredibly not private on the internet because so few people actually turn it on because of the big spooky warning that apple shows you when you open it on your phone lockdown mode being it's a high security mode that's in apple's products and so it's on macos ventura and it's also on ios and ipad os i don't know if it exists on watch os but it is what it does is it has it removes just-in-time compilation of javascript prevents people from calling like of like adding you on facetime or calling you unless you invite
Starting point is 00:15:01 them first and then it also like prevents all non-image attachments from being sent through iMessage oh wow it's it's pretty pretty substantial and like android doesn't quite have something to match it because even like the hardening of hardening like an android device too is really just like don't use anything that isn't a google phone it's kind of true like there's all sorts of pitfalls with all the other android phones like i mean like never mind this you know the stuff like with huawei where the polish government accused them of like backdooring their phones although their the proof they provided was not exactly helpful let's put it that way it was very hard to substantiate what what they were
Starting point is 00:15:46 actually saying of that report um but at least huawei is still like huawei phones also don't have like the same kind of boot security and other bonus things within their custom roms that google their roms that google does and even if you use, like, especially if you use, like, one of the custom Android ROMs, like Graphene OS or DivestOS. DivestOS doesn't even work on newer Pixel phones, I don't think, but I don't know why, but it just doesn't.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I know Graphene does. Graphene still supports the Pixel 2, but you still shouldn't be using a Pixel 2 today, but whatever. I have no idea how we got to this topic yeah i don't know either i think it was just passwords you got me talking this is yeah look the more that you talk the less that i talk and that's good for me oh it's like the joe rogan and snowden situation where he just i have never seen joe rogan shut up in. And like, he lets Snowden prattle on for like 40 minutes. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:48 wow, you don't want to interrupt Snowden. Just let him go. He's whatever he's going to say is far more important than any of the additional comments you can make. Just go enjoy. I mean, I,
Starting point is 00:17:04 I silenced this Twitter because I'm just like too much of this is just not helpful so i was just like i mean also he's been out of the game for a long time that's another thing i think i mean because also like if you i didn't download all of it i did debate about down i think i did download it at one point when it first came out was the for when um the guardian and the eff and uh look uh the guardian the eff i know had it but i got it from the eff was the original snowden leaks it was like 182 yeah it was like it was a lot it was a lot it was like 182 gigabytes of like powerpoints pdfs like he downloaded he had like the keys to the kingdom like it was it was so i don't know how to describe it was just but i didn't read all of them i did read a lot of it but it is very it's very enlightening i mean the important ones
Starting point is 00:17:53 are the stuff that everyone throws around today in the news like i don't know like like i remember one of them at the time which was incredibly like discard disconcerting was they were like backdooring the pipelines that google was using to get their internet to spy on all of google's internet traffic and like google changed the architecture of their of their networks because because of that like and then there was also like an at&t building which they were using to spy on the at&t devices of everyone in like chicago which i was in chicago i don't remember it was some american city but that was also a big deal at the time i when this the snowden leaks happened when i was too young to
Starting point is 00:18:47 really be caring about what was uh what was going on in the world yeah because i 2014 was when it really took off when he was like trying to get like amnesty from hong kong and russia because i was sick 15 16 at the time so I was playing video games or something. I don't know. Not paying attention to what was happening with Snowden. Yeah. It's funny. I feel like it's a lot of kids these days.
Starting point is 00:19:16 They're all playing video games. Even the people. They're all playing video games. I don't get it. I just don't get it. They're fun to play every now and then. But I just don't have time a lot of times. Are we going to go on a big rant about why video games
Starting point is 00:19:27 are bad, like you were doing before the show started? I totally could, but I actually don't have a lot to say on that matter. I'm not one of those gaming YouTubers who can just get on a Twitch stream or a YouTube video and just rattle off hot takes on video games. I got none of that. In fact, whenever I show a video
Starting point is 00:19:44 game on screen either i've played it or i have never touched that game in my life usually like if i've played it that means you it's a great achievement or it's a game that epic gave me for free and i didn't have a cough of money for which is also also a thing well i did i did yeah the games i've shown are like arkham knight which epic gave for free tomb raider i think has that video come no tomb raider hasn't come out yet that video hasn't even out yet oops but tomb raider um tomb raider yeah i did start and then i never continued yes i stopped at like the first campfire i'm like great and then i just turned the game off i actually did obligatory run
Starting point is 00:20:23 the benchmark because that's of course of course actually did obligatory run the benchmark because that's, of course, of course you do. Oh, absolutely. You gotta run the benchmark with MangoHUD and just say, uh-huh, mm-hmm, okay. 60 frames per second on a 2012 game or whatever. Great. I did see you had a video on Pokemon Ranger on your channel, though.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Oh, yeah. That's a good game. That was rough. That was rough. That was rough? i didn't watch the entire thing it made me realize i gave up after the two ludicolos in that stupid city because what happens is that they overlay their attacks on top of each other and you can't flee unless they're both in that little bubble so you basically have to just black out so clearly
Starting point is 00:21:02 pokemon games are clearly well designed guys it's been a very long time since i played pokemon ranger i i do remember enjoying it though there was also the struggle of like i didn't change my cursor in retroarch so because i didn't change my cursor it was white on top of white especially in that city and in the desert area with the ride on you can't actually like do anything yeah this is back when i thought i could edit videos like gaming videos and i'm like and it's like literally no one cares it's just too much yeah this is why i just wanted to experiment with it because i was like i have a drawing tablet what kind of poke what kind of like game on the nintendo ds like required a stylus of people and i that really got me digging because i'm like i can't think of one uh mystery dungeon didn't
Starting point is 00:21:51 require one the world interview mario kart didn't either because you could just use like the deep the gamepad in fact i would say mario kart didn't let you use it at all except to click through the menus yeah that sounds about right yeah the only two i can really think of yeah call of duty ain't using the stylus yeah i think everyone forgets that one call of duty was on the ds oh i should tell you about how i actually know about this um at a raffle at work i won a nintendo ds what the they just entered all of us into a wrap like a charity raffle and i won a nintendo ds and i'm like what is this i've never owned this in my life so i actually got involved and i was like oh i guess so i started with pokemon diamond
Starting point is 00:22:40 uh-huh it's not it just it just took off from there although pokemon dime pokemon i've now gotten grown incredibly frustrated with in life no i i would argue i was just as frustrated about it then because i'm like why do i have to buy the same game twice only only pokemon can get a way of doing that well no to be fair you have to buy the same game three in the past three times because you had you had like ruby sapphire and then you had the third release where it is basically the expansion pack that's the oh like the platinum emerald yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah platinum's the same yeah i did actually get a hold of um emeralds because i got it from a gamestop and like because it was you know just a million years old and they were still selling
Starting point is 00:23:29 them so i was like i got it for 10 bucks i'm like wow you bought it at a normal price not retro game prices lovely yeah not retro game prices a miracle today you couldn't do that with pokemon no i mean you probably could gamestop is probably has seen better days yeah how is eb games in australia i meant i need to ask what do they do over there i hear stories about them but i hear it's just as bad as gamestop what sort of stories do you hear like people are miserable working there that's about it okay yeah that no that's fair yeah but people are miserable working at gamestop too so that doesn't really say much. It really, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:05 any retail position, everyone I know has, like I did when I was your age, I worked in, I did, I was, don't ever get involved in something like this. Any,
Starting point is 00:24:14 you, anyone younger than me do not get involved in this. It was supermarket distribution management. Don't ever get involved in that because what they have you do is they have you drive around to all sorts of random supermarkets and you think they would make it so oh you just go to a cluster of supermarkets an area no they just literally just send you to random places like one day like you're in one state the next day you cross the border of the state and go to a different one like that's this is the kind of like randomness that they do and then if people wonder like hey why is the supply chain so bad i'm like i would argue this is one of the big reasons i don't know if there's actually some sort
Starting point is 00:24:50 of logistic reasons behind it because i had access to all the sales numbers but they never gave me access to any of like the routes or whatever i did have only going back to the eb game thing um if you well you know it's the same it's the same with gamestop where if you want to get absolutely no money for your games go and trade them in give them 20 games you'll get five dollars maybe you know nonsense like that okay pretty much everything that's wrong with gamestop is also wrong with eb games it's just a different name and you can just get they did it it wasn't a meme stock it was yeah i've oh that was such a dumb time on the internet man i was just laughing at all the people losing their money from a distance you know if um
Starting point is 00:25:47 if that whole thing encouraged me one thing was the after all that happened it was the michael reeves video about him getting his fish to buy stocks i was like maybe i should i should do that i'm gonna i'll write it i'll make a video on it one day on how to randomly how to access one of those stock apis and get JQ to pull a random stock every day. That's what I need to do. I wonder if there's actually something in Yahoo. No, Yahoo, I think, actually got rid of their public API.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So you can't actually use Yahoo for this kind of information anymore. And they're like, because of course, why would you make it free when all these other brokers make you pay for it? Like here in the US, like Fidelity makes you pay for access to their stock API. And I think Bank of America and Chase do too. I've never even considered looking at the APIs for them. Yeah, because someone I know
Starting point is 00:26:41 who I had switched to Linux a long time ago, he had asked me like, how do I get access to Fidelity's Windows program to do it? I'm like, oh, shoot, I don't have a good answer for this. And his computer is not good enough to run it anyway. Even if it was running Windows 10 or 11, it wouldn't be good enough to run it. It's like a four gigabyte RAM, like Intel i3 from like 2011. No, you're not going to be able to run the stock program anyway
Starting point is 00:27:06 they in fact i'm pretty sure a lot of these stock firms are designed to be like multi-monitor supported so like that makes sense so people can look at like all sorts of like real-time graphs yeah so they can make themselves seem really important by looking at 10 graphs at the same time they probably don't understand it's like the linux users who riced our desktop and then they just have like unix porn screenshots just en masse like on on their computer just the bread or like they make their or no they're the kde user who has like the 10 000 activities where they can just switch it like look now it's windows now it's mac now it looks like a tiling window manager and then just keep doing that and that's like okay i okay people occasionally ask me like hey brody can you share your awesome wm rice
Starting point is 00:27:50 isn't it on your github well yes but also my my rice is literally the default config with like three lines of tweaking okay all right it's better than my crummy sway config on on the computer no one's ever seen before i frequently mention that computer too um it's um i actually have my my current laptop is not good i i had bought it on an impulse at at a walmart of all places that was a walmart no it was the best computer some other place of people wearing blue polo shirts uh it was it's the asus e403na yes i had to actually look this up and no it doesn't receive uh power through the sd card port i tested that one too and then i also opened up the lid to unplug the webcam and microphone because even if it was working the camera the quality is awful great value lightweight aluminum design good but it is
Starting point is 00:28:47 truly a really good like a good uh notebook it's basically like imagine a chromebook but imagine it came with windows 10 instead that's a slight upgrade so that's arguably a great but of course i blasted i blasted windows 10 off of it and just coughed up the microsoft tax why does it look like a macbook pro from 2012 uh it probably doesn't because it's probably also aluminum apple's computers were also using that kind of color of aluminum back yeah just the picture i saw makes it seem it looks like one of the old thick bezel macbook pros oh the bezels are they are pretty thick they're pretty thick um but if recommendation which you can do and it is actually able to be done if you actually own
Starting point is 00:29:38 this computer you can if you you can take a nail file pry open the top part of in front if you look at the picture pry open the top part of the screen the frame around the screen and if you pry off the frame behind the screen underneath that is the webcam microphone and it's all one module they do have to save money so just you can just unplug it just as a comfortable little reminder you can actually do that on this is it and this is great thankfully i did do this once of a dell xps 15 i think for someone which uh you actually have to get a heating pad to like open that thing up so you can remove the microphone and webcam it's so annoying like the pain of caring about your security your privacy oh my gosh i did more than like hey you know you're gonna lose your webcam and then the pandemic
Starting point is 00:30:26 happened and then i just made i ended up looking like a prophet so this is why i like they just got an external camera so you know i i do everything on my desktop and if i don't want my camera webcam on i just literally like take the power away unless you can somehow manage to bring the power back without you code, good luck with that but you know, you've got to turn the switch on at the wall it's not going to happen I'm good, I don't need to cover anything I sleep with the camera in my room
Starting point is 00:30:56 it's just not powered by anything, so good luck what I do is I have a I talked about this on Mastodon Twitter I have a PF Sense firewall and oh on massad on twitter i have a i have a pf sense firewall and oh my gosh i've tried open sense i legitimately have tried but it misconfigures my interfaces so it never gets to touch the internet at all and i don't know what it is but it's funny pf sense just works it just it always gets my configuration correct um but i did find out my issue was pf blocker
Starting point is 00:31:26 on some updates which is like oh think of it like pie hole but for pf sense what happens is pie it's so intrusive on dns it will just eat up every year if you set up a sync a vpn sinkhole it will eat up the sinkhole so you can't connect to the internet and my backups have pf blocker in them so that's why my backups were hosed so i couldn't that's why my me restoring my backups didn't do anything so yeah you have to so i did have to rebuild my configuration again from scratch which was annoying but i don't do much with it aside from it being a sinkhole and all right i'll tell you a story about this firewall too i had had bought this just in the September of 2019, just before the pandemic. And then when they sent all of us home, now all of a sudden, oh, I now have a laptop with me,
Starting point is 00:32:17 which could potentially access my home IP address and give the stockerware that my company uses access to where I live. Oh, that sounds like a really bad idea. And I had already set all of this up six months in advance. So I'm like, all right, let's put it to the test. So I had to activate the other ports on it so it can connect to this thing. It's a little weird because when you use OpenVPN or WireGuard, well, you can't use WireGuard.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, you can now. I haven't tried it, though. Because NetGate has been really... In fact, I think Jason Donaldson was the original creator of WireGuard. Well, he owns the trademark, at least. He got in a spite with
Starting point is 00:32:57 a dispute with Net... What's it called? NetBlue or whatever they call it not net blue he's the guy made fire jail um uh net gate he got in the dispute with net gate because they were being very difficult about implementing wire guard into pf sense even though open sense had already implemented it and there's a open sense in pf sense while they have some slight differences are supposed to be compatible with each other in terms of programs.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They have the same programs that work on them the same way. Because it's just still the same free BSD underneath. But he got in that dispute, and then WireGuard was never implemented. And they never didn't implement it until last year. And this is why OpenSense was created, and now you know why. This is just one of the many reasons. Because of how NetGate treats PFSense. And plus, PFSense also operates in the unhealthy mindset of, yeah, we'll just freeze updates, and then we'll update your stuff for a couple months. And then a couple months later, you come back, and they're like, hey, we got an update for LibreSSL.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Okay, great, thank you. And then it's just kind of just there whereas like open sense gets updates more regularly which which i do like about it assuming i could connect it to the internet of course well that's always a uh good start i've never really taken the time to look into any of this stuff. Like, I... As much as I enjoy messing around with software, messing around with tech, like, this is an area that I've just never touched. Like, maybe it'd be fun to get into at some point.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And if I, you know, actually want to take, you know, privacy and security seriously, maybe I would do that. But, like... Strongly recommend it it especially if you work from home it's a real because i work i my job is such a way where i am in the office half the week yeah so half the week it is i am making use of this and it's absolutely necessary the one thing though is i read a couple configs that people have made online for other vpn providers and what you have to do is you have to make multiple ip addresses so if one address is bad and it'll pick out of the open vpn config will pick out of a random batch so you don't just have one ip so if that one server is down then the whole thing goes down so you need to just have multiple ips available so it's just like one remote ip address command in the configuration file okay but that's open vpn
Starting point is 00:35:29 i'm pretty sure wireguard won't have this issue because of the way it's actually done i'm i could be wrong though because wireguard still technically has direct ip addresses so you know i didn't actually ask you yet. Usually when I bring someone new and ask them how they got into tech, how they got into Linux, I hadn't even addressed that yet. Oh, sure. Do you want to give some early history of how you sort of... Sure. My first computer was Windows 98 from the year 1998 but it was the school computer lab in like when i was your age like the school computer lab like computers and we didn't really get to interact
Starting point is 00:36:12 a bit other than like you know using like word perfect or like microsoft word and you know stuff like that and it never really did i think i did touch one os2 computer but i was like only like once and now i can only watch other people's retro videos about it and pretend I spent more time with it, even though it really is just Windows. OS2 was really just Windows underneath. And there was even a thing where you could ask for a DOS prompt in both Windows back then and in that,
Starting point is 00:36:40 because a lot of games and programs still required it. I know a lot of them, programs like still required it like i know a lot of um like at the yeah they still require it would still require dos programs i mean i we had a company that still required a dos program for their um for their uh customer management but it was um they run it in command prompt uh through one of two through like some weird PowerShell wrapper that they wrote. So, you know, if it works, it works, right? No. Don't be like these people.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Although I'm having the pains of database management. Although it's not like most people think, oh, you mean like SQL, right? No, it's like I won't say which one, but it's like the companies like hubspot and uh salesforce and blackbaud who will just hold like people's your customer information
Starting point is 00:37:32 and like updating customer manifests but they don't let you access it in any way like a normal sequel database even though they're clearly using a sql database or something and it's really annoying and then our administrator said it's so like oh you don't get access if you mark a customer as like oh they're not a customer anymore you can't get access to their records anymore so i'm like why so it's like because you can't technically delete anybody you can only archive them away but if you archive them it just hides them from our view so we don't get to see them yeah it's it's really silly that i know that's how it is of salesforce because salesforce does do that some of their programs that is that's a system
Starting point is 00:38:16 you know yeah it is a thing uh so um yeah but i got started on windows 98 and i i didn't i did just have i had to for i had to be forced to like go to xp like many other people at the time i was forced to like go to xp it was just one assistant well xp was pretty good it had a lot of like i i find it funny that like a lot of people um at the time when it was out were really unhappy with it but like xp was supported for a long time it went on until like 2012 and or something it was on for a while at least service pack i don't remember when service pack three was it service pack three i don't remember how many service packs they even got i'd have to actually look it up but like windows xp was around for a long time.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Or at the very least, I was not... I was being stupid and using it past its end of life, which is also possible. Well, there's a lot of areas to use it past its end of life. Yeah, because I did move to Windows 7 in 2009. No, not 2009. It was actually a couple years after.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It would have been 2010, 2011. It was 2011, because that is when i got that other computer which is now just totally fried it was an hp pro book hp it was an hp pro book of some variety um and that was a computer that i wrote for a long time i pretty much had it till like 2016 ish and you know it was just like a basic you know you could take it on vacation yeah do things with it it was you know when my computer it was a functional computer i had like a weird amd mobile graphics card i okay that was the way i did amd mobile graphics cards i i did try a few games on it but you really had to like trick the game into like and do all sorts of
Starting point is 00:40:05 nonsense to get games to run like i i did successfully get i was it yeah i was dishonored back when dishonored was new and i had to you have to write a edit the unreal engine configuration file to like crank the textures way down but i found out when you do that you can't actually change safe numbers because those are textures so you can't see which numbers are on the safe when you flip the dial so i was like uh-oh i don't know why you even tried to play that game like that would have been a nightmare on that system yeah it would have been crippling it would have run i got 20 i got 30 frames out of it so wow yeah that's impressive I mean if you can run like it ran I know you did League of Legends get Dishonored I got Skyrim on it for like 45
Starting point is 00:40:55 ish frames but you know Skyrim is from you know even though it's a 2011 game it's real every Bethesda game is really a game from 2009 well if you want to be more accurate it's uh when's the newest re-release of skyrim uh last year probably probably yeah i actually did do skyrim modding for a little bit uh i had i won't say what i've made i'm embarrassed by it to be honest but i did i do know a little bit about the gamebryo engines quirks 2021 everything everything's an excel spreadsheet that's the way to view everything in gamebryo everything is an excel spreadsheet where you just change values and if you make new values and attach that to new objects then you can add in more stuff which is why there's a million mods where people just make look i made a custom follower but what they're really doing is they just duplicated like an entry in skyrim.esm of like a one of the existing followers
Starting point is 00:41:50 and then just change their name right and like maybe the text the hair texture because there's actually a thing where you can flip through presets in their mod engine yeah i've never looked into skyrim modding i know things got easier when the creation kit came out but i don't know what that actually like made possible yeah i've always creation kit because i never did play any of the i didn't play any game before new vegas so i don't actually know and in new vegas i didn't even play i only got it after release but then you find out that you're supposed and i actually did research you're supposed to buy the gog version of the game unless you're willing to go to nexus mod and download the mod which gives you the four gigabyte aware address awareness patch because the game wasn't four gigabyte address aware but then there's also a problem in skyrim where if
Starting point is 00:42:35 you have skyrim skyrim will not register the um won't allocate memory correctly which is why the game will crash very frequently and someone it got so bad someone wrote a custom direct xtll where you can just drop it in the game directory and it will fix skyrim's memory management problems not all of them but i do not miss the days of awful pc ports because well that's the sad part right skyrim's not a pc port it was made for pc this is something that's deceiving about that's fair bethesda opera and cd project red operate under the presumption that when they make something they make something for they make it
Starting point is 00:43:19 for pc first which is why cyberpunk 2077 the witch Witcher games were all. At least past Witcher 2. Were all like incredibly graphically intensive. Like they all. No computer at the time could run the Witcher 2. The Witcher 3 was also. I don't know why people were so surprised by Cyberpunk. Because like the Witcher 3 was also really buggy at launch. So like I don't know why people were so shocked.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah it kind of was. It got buried over time though. But it was in just like cd cyberpunk it was just as broken on like ps4 and like xbox xbox one it was like not playable it was like you would get like 16 frames per second in certain cut scenes and it's like yeah that's not okay because cd project red only uses pc however you say well they only make it for pc right obviously it works well with mouse and keyboard. No. After Witcher 2, something in them snapped,
Starting point is 00:44:10 and they decided to make everything for a controller, so they only have to design one user interface. So the result of this is Witcher 2, because they planned for an Xbox release. The Xbox release, they only have it like a console oriented menu and even the menu lies to you if you watch like video reviews of the game like reviews of the game will basically say like the menus lie to you and everything but the witcher three was like hey look we got everything's in a grid now that's how you access your inventory
Starting point is 00:44:40 that's great right not if you're an xbox user because playstation users and pc players get access to a touchpad or a mouse where they can actually click on things xbox users don't have access to that so it's actually a big pain to open menus in the inventory but really but it's really just the the overworld's controls which are proof that like they only design this game for like console console play but on a pc it's so confusing and then like bethesda's games are the same way like skyrim's interface is designed to be played if a controller but because bethesda doesn't know how to adapt anything past like the early 2000s their engine is just permanently stuck in that state. So it's made for Windows first.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's the reason why. In some ways. It works well on Wine. Because it was made during the era when Wine. Like the golden age of games. That work on Wine. That actually makes sense. But the problem is. Nothing is going to fix.
Starting point is 00:45:42 How slow the Skyrim menu is. No yeah. That's enough games enough games it was i think it was i switched to linux i'll get back on topic i switched to linux after i had dodged updating to windows 8 for a long time and like an idiot in 2016 i decided oh i'm gonna update to windows 10 because they've nagged me for like two years now. Maybe I should do it. And then one of my friends actually told me, hey, you should do it. It'll be great. He was such a liar.
Starting point is 00:46:14 He actually said that now I don't listen to anything he said because I believe at the same time he also said, no man's sky is going to be a great game. You should go buy it. I'm like, well, it became a good game. Eventually. How long did that take? Yeah. Don't preorder games games it took like four years yeah yeah yeah for at least to become to become something real don't prove it i believe when they go and then windows the windows install failed like it does and i was expecting it to be like windows 8 and you know when i did get it working i was like like that's when I decided okay
Starting point is 00:46:46 maybe I need to start looking for something different and then naturally I started digging around and my internet research says to me like now you'd think oh you should use Ubuntu right so I did I actually burned Ubuntu 16.04 in 2016 to a DVD
Starting point is 00:47:01 yes a real DVD because I actually have those so you burn the disc to a DVD because that, a real DVD, because I actually have those. So you burn the disc to a DVD, because that's what the website implies. The website implies, oh, you need to burn it to a DVD. Canonical's website lies to you. The implication is you need to use a DVD. I'm pretty sure all
Starting point is 00:47:18 of them are like this. They don't explain this, that you need to use a USB drive. Whereas if you visit Linux Mint's website, they're like USB, just use a USBb drive whereas if you visit like linux mint's website they're like usb just use a us like usbc or a usb a drive yeah do it it'll it'll be fine and i did actually download a bunch too and then they then i got really frustrated with unity and i didn't know what to do about it that was unity era yeah it was yeah and um and that was actually the tail end of unity because i think that year was the year canonical said they would stop supporting unity and that was unity ended in 1804 but you
Starting point is 00:47:55 want to know what else was i learned about ubuntu which made me really disconcerted the freaking amazon shortcut they used to include in everything and i think everyone forgets that but that was like a real thing there was a desktop file in ubuntu at least you know the main the main of distro ubuntu in the gnome version yeah if you look up um if you go into google and type in ubuntu amazon it tries to autofill to Ubuntu Amazon spyware yeah do you know why are you actually familiar with why oh it was an article that um the EFF wrote because I think I don't remember who wrote it but the article says those words and that was the article that propagated everything around right so I see so that's because that's how search engines work right once you get the one popular
Starting point is 00:48:46 article and you look up a thing that's going to be the one thing that gets really popular and and that was back they don't didn't do it when i started but it was they implemented a search feature which would send all of your search queries to amazon for some weird reason so and the example i think they used in it is if you looked up porn it would you know we'll look that up on amazon so yeah maybe that wasn't the best and brightest move so i said okay i don't like unity i don't want to get out of this i didn't even know like that unity was being discontinued i still have the dvd in a jewel case somewhere by by the way. Oh, wow, nice.
Starting point is 00:49:27 So I might just make that content, but then the problem is I have to rip it out of the DVD somehow or get a drive that actually loads DVDs. So that's a different problem altogether. You can get a USB DVD drive fairly cheap. Yeah, but that's so much work. It's like having a floppy drive to read my old floppies. Nope, I'm not going to get that. Yeah, no, that's fair. You know, what caused me to hoard data was i got rid of the vhs player no i think it was
Starting point is 00:49:50 my parents who got i was still living with my family so they got rid of the vhs player and that like really scarred me so now i like hoard i hoard technology like a crazy a crazy person so like i still have like old laptops which aren't even functional anymore i have like one like one gigabyte dell notebook from like 2003 i think it ran like was it around windows vista no it's literally like xp or something something like that 2003 it's not probably would have been this when did where would it xp i don't think it would it probably i don't think i don't remember what it was i have have to go look. This was 2007. Yeah, it could have been. I mean, it was such a common practice.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I mean, it still is a common practice now. Thankfully, Windows 11 has quelled that. One silver lining of Windows 11 is they've quelled that a little bit because Microsoft has realized, hey, maybe we should improve our reputation of some of our computers being complete bricks that can't run anything. Speaking of Windows 11,
Starting point is 00:50:50 I got an angry message from my sister the other day. Maybe it was a couple weeks ago. Not because of something I did, because of something Windows did. So she closed her laptop and was like, okay, I'm just done for the night. When she came back in
Starting point is 00:51:05 the morning windows 11 was installed that's right so she on um is she on one of the version of the like 28 was he on 22 h2 when she she left because i think they are starting to do that with 22 h2 they are starting to force installs on people yeah i'm not sure she might be part of one of their ab tests where they are starting to test it on yes people yeah i'm not sure she might be part of one of their ab tests where they are starting to test it on yes because this is what microsoft does they treat their customers like guinea pigs so they they test new things on them so their test in this case was install windows 11 i i think it's they if they installed windows 11 it's probably the newest newest one so it would be windows 11 22 h2 because i know 21 on h1 i had to help someone upgrade from 28 22 h1 22 h2 even though
Starting point is 00:51:54 it's literally just like go to the start go to the update page and click on the thing which is update me to the next version of windows i i absolutely hate the way that microsoft does their version naming like i'm sure there's some you know whose fault i could tell you stories about that you know whose fault that is whose fault it was people who don't work at microsoft anymore that's who it was um the people i was balmer was sort of involved but i think it was um uh was it yeah i was sanofsky when he was involved at microsoft i think steven sanofsky um because he's responsible for a lot of things that people hate about microsoft today like the metro tiles
Starting point is 00:52:31 in the windows start menu which were caused by him by the way because of windows 8 and then he was also responsible for the graphics upgrade in windows vista which really made people furious and why no one upgraded the vista do you Did you mean an error or something different? It was just the Aero Glass theme was just too intense for just the desktop environment, which is what made people go crazy. And it's also
Starting point is 00:52:56 hilarious because this is at the same time like macOS, was it Snow Leopard or Mountain Lion? I forget which one, was out at the same time time looked better and didn't take up as much memory and resources so it's like it was just a mess it was just terrible and the and then he was also responsible for um the the windows as a service release schedule although he was partially responsible for it.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I don't know if he was, because he had left Microsoft around 2015, 2016, and he's now doing better things in life. He's probably ruining other people's lives. People hate him, by the way. The Microsoft Store is only a thing because of him, because of how heavily he pushed it in the Windows 8 era. A lot of things in the Windows 8 era are because of San heavily he pushed it in the windows 8 era a lot of things in the windows 8 era are
Starting point is 00:53:45 because of synopsky like like one misunderstanding that i think a lot of linux users have is like they weren't they don't remember this from the time period is the only reason like people say microsoft hated open source was because of synopsky synopsky was the one to was part of the people in my the political party sort of within microsoft which tried to basically stamp out open source because it what they saw it as rival to their business even though people were still using microsoft services and using open source anyway like that was the the biggest issue with with like that, with that group at Microsoft. And also Sanofsky was incredibly hostile towards journalists. Like regardless of whether they, what they said was true or not,
Starting point is 00:54:31 it was how he handled them, which is what real people like really knew. And then like people like Balmer really like Steve Balmer, who was before the CEO before Satya Nadella really liked Sanofsky because of his vision. The problem is no one else appreciated what sanofsky didn't appreciate sanofsky's vision sanofsky's vision is like in a perfect world people would do that but in reality no one wants to do that because they just want windows to just
Starting point is 00:54:58 be a thing and just do what they want it to do they don't want to like have like people experiment on it and like i'm confident that like the windows vista and windows 8 era were also like the two biggest boons in like linux and then like if people hey if the latest community doesn't shape up they're not going to get the same boon when windows 11 is forced down people's throats in two years i don't think windows 11 is going to be as big of a issue though like i know that it has ish i know it absolutely has issues but i don't it i don't think it's another i don't think it's another vista with arrow i don't think it's another windows 8 with uh with metro it's just windows 10 but a bit worse and i don't know if that's going to cause anywhere near as much of like i don't think you want to hear my spicy hot take i don't agree with that
Starting point is 00:55:52 because though yeah it's gotten worse because file explorer eats up more memory than it needs to because now you can open tabs oh even though every other operating system could open tabs in their gui file managers yeah what a joke uh or like oh notepad now has tabs okay so does every other text editor on like every other operating system but we have it now but like but they have it now sure great whatever on like a program that no one's going to use yep great but one of the things that windows 11 does is they have like they've actually fixed a lot of the conventional security problems with windows at least in terms of like what happens with secure boot like secured core pcs which are now going which are now being rolled out to market they'll start being rolled out last year which linux people are terrified of because they have no
Starting point is 00:56:40 idea what they are yeah of course but like. But all the Linux users out there, you need to use Secure Boot. You're not using Secure Boot, you're just huffing copium. You need to just grow a pair and get Secure Boot working and UEFI working on your system. Especially if you use Ubuntu or Fedora, you have no excuse because it's supported by default. Because Canonical and Red Hat
Starting point is 00:57:06 cop up money to make their stuff work on these systems. If you use Ventoy, I think Ventoy even installs a custom secure boot key. I haven't actually figured that out yet. There's a poorly translated page on their website which describes how to enroll
Starting point is 00:57:22 a key so you can get secure Boot working through Ventoy. Because I know that's a big boon for people. Is if you install... Yeah, basically you need to use Secure Boot because right now in terms of Linux users have just been using EFI boot or turning off Secure Boot.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Me included. Because it's worse if you're like me you have the nvidia driver you're going to suffer more because the nvidia driver is completely terrible like there's a reason why linus flipped them the finger and the and like wl roots like refuses to support it it's because like it's awful like refuses to support it it's because like it's awful like and it's because it also breaks secure boot even if it works yeah if you have intel or amd like it'll still break secure boot because the driver isn't signed but if you use mok util and sign the driver and i think kmod sign or whatever the sign the driver it'll work
Starting point is 00:58:23 no that don't work but you have to re-sign it every time you install it i think kmod sign or whatever the sign the driver it'll work no that'll work but you have to re-sign it every time you install it i think okay if i'm reading what i'm reading correctly this is actually going this is actually a longer journey for me but i actually have a couple test computers i can actually do this with because i do have another computer with an nvidia graphics card which i can test this with well considering that's your take on secure boot i want to know what you think about the people who are adamant about only using really old thinkpads that only support bios and uh well it's even worse well they don't get intel firmware updates that's the other they also refuse to install microcode updates yeah they, we need to stop the Linux Libre meme.
Starting point is 00:59:06 It needs to end. The Linux Libre meme, what they do is they're like, oh, well, things like Spectre and Meltdown, oh, that doesn't exist because we just deleted the source code that adds in those patches. Or little things like, oh, well, this is just one little proprietary blob from some one random company. Let's just get rid of this. It's like, oh, well, this is just one little proprietary blob from some one random company. Let's just get rid of this.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's like, why? Why are you doing this? There's literally no point to doing this. Just use the normal kernel. It's less work and it's more secure. But they just remove security patches because it's like, but it's proprietary. And it's like, no, that's not how it works and like it's finally like debian is now coming to its senses and like allowing like non-free firmware because like the
Starting point is 00:59:53 intel intel wouldn't be getting like certain media driver updates if you didn't enable non-free firmware and it's like or like you know people getting wi-fi working properly it's a really big one wi-fi and bluetooth and even if you do get bluetooth working it doesn't even work like that's been my experience at least yeah i but my computer doesn't even have bluetooth i didn't now it's not because of a security thing it was just out of laziness it doesn't even have wi-fi again i just cheaped out on the motherboard that wasn't because of some security thing or anything i just didn't do it i mean the real thing you could do is if you just go into like systemd or whatever your init system is and like prevent bluetooth from running that's honestly sufficient like because then it can't just it won't work because like what are
Starting point is 01:00:34 they gonna do gain root privileges oh then then you've already lost like if they got free privilege i don't think i'd give a shit about your bluetooth right so i don't have wi-fi on this desktop the way i do it is i have a um i have a 10 meter ethernet cable that runs along my ceiling and comes down to my pc mine runs behind a sofa so i guess we're in the same boot it used to run along the floor and then i was like wait this is a tripping hazard maybe i shouldn't do it like that's why i put it around the around the around the wall so you can't trip on it no mine was just in the hallway like you were just oh it's just there uh now it's like uh what do you call like hooked up they've got like little nailing hooks that are like along the
Starting point is 01:01:21 skirting board the yeah yeah whatever and it's uh it looks horrible uh i could like sleeve the cable or whatever but no i'm not gonna do that it's too much effort it's fine it works everyone who comes around is like what the fuck is that like don't think about it just don't look at it it's all good yeah basically suck it up and get secure your boots Linux users. That's all I have to say. Yeah. Well, okay, I don't use secure boot either, but I just don't want to set it up on Arch.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Like, that's too much work. Oh, here's a good question for you. Let me give you the Linux security crash course. All right. Let me give you the questions. I know it's been a long time since you've probably installed Arch Linux since your hard drive. Was that since your hard drive failure?
Starting point is 01:02:01 That was my home drive that failed. Oh, it was just a home drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used separate drives for them. Okay, but when was the last time you installed arch linux because this is also relevant to the questions we're going to ask you probably when i like for your system like when did you last install it like two years ago two years ago well it's actually fairly recent then okay so you said you don't have secure but okay that was one question um do you have encrypted uh lvm this is gonna go very badly isn't it okay yeah do you have encrypted lvm
Starting point is 01:02:32 i think luke smith did a video on it recently did he just like do yeah he did still he's been doing daily uploads for some weird he's not even in my suggested videos anymore i have some hot takes about luke smith but i want to save that for some okay reason. Has he? He's not even in my suggested videos anymore. I have some hot takes about Luke Smith but I want to save that for some other time. Okay. I prefer not to save them here. Huh. He does have one. No. And his is actually, it is what
Starting point is 01:02:58 you should do. It's pretty simple. Maybe I'll go watch it. But yeah. You should have your answer. No. Maybe I'll go watch it. But yeah, you should have your answer. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Next question. I'll take that as a no. Yeah. So did you all... All right. So here's another one. Which Linux kernel do you use in Arch Linux? I use the main kernel. I also have the LTS kernel. Just Linux? Yeah. I have the LTS kernel issue i also have the lts linux yeah i
Starting point is 01:03:26 have the lts kernel installed as well just in case something goes wrong okay uh well there is a kernel a special kernel in arch linux which doesn't exist in other distros called linux hardened yes yes and if you want to use that one uh i've actually when i was using arch you can't actually game with that kernel and uh it you know you won't experience any problems because what the linux hardened kernel does is it removes a lot of unnecessary logging and security calls to prevent other processes from calling those logs and processes so like most people will not notice a thing like using the linux hardened kernel um although technically there are people who will say like it gives me a speed decrease because I want to use my Linux Zen kernel or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Oh, it's funny. I never did get the Linux Zen kernel working ever, despite my attempts to do it. For some reason, it disables my internet when I do it. So I don't know why. It must be, like, an Asus thing. Okay. I'm half-coated with an Asus thing. I know the hardened kernel does have i think it causes skype to not
Starting point is 01:04:28 work you also shouldn't be using skype there's like a couple of little random things like that that hardened has issues with um oh but who uses skype and yeah well the year 2023 i'm pretty microsoft is even trying to get rid of skype you shouldn't be using it it's like saying oh i use google hangouts in 2023 yeah don't be like those people just use if you're gonna if you're in that boat and you still want to be in the google ecosystem just use google meet it's not hard yeah it's honestly better than using hangouts and all right let me let's move on. Do you use a mandatory access system? mandatory access system? Like app armor?
Starting point is 01:05:09 I see. Uh, outside of what flat packs? App armor, flat packs don't require app armor. Because they use OS tree. Yeah. Okay, It does everything through OSTree and Bubblewrap. You probably have those installed already.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. Because when you install Flatpak, they will just install OSTree on you. Yeah. So we're at four zeros. Yep. Okay. Let me try to think what some of the other stuff is.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I was about to say miscellaneous kernel hardening, but I would save that to the end. I'll assume most people don't even do that. Even I haven't done it on my current system. I did do it on my laptop. I did not do it on my current system. But you need to install the kernel hardening mechanisms from all Linux distributions, the Hoonix GitHub page page and you actually can install their sysctl hard it's their sysctl systemd i think they also they also have one for um
Starting point is 01:06:13 the linux kernel too they have some special patches for those although i believe that they will cause issues with gaming but if you edit one flag and the systemd one it will not affect gaming at all so technically it won't cover that one but it does cause unexpected hiccups in games this is why i generally uh stay in my lane and don't talk about security because you shouldn't take any of my advice for security all right uh so uh what about a ZRAM? Do you use ZRAM or do you have a... if you use ZRAM then you don't need to worry about encrypted LVM because I think Arch does ZRAM in their installer in Arch's install or did they do it in... I think I feel like they might in Arch install. When I set up Arch I set it up manually though.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Right. You're not sounding very impressed. I'm just saying, it's like, this doesn't surprise me, and I'm pretty sure most other people are in this boat. I'll say I'm in the boat. I am a typical Arch Linux user who goes through the install guide that goes over nothing
Starting point is 01:07:22 about hardening your system. Any of this. Right. This is like a big problem with. Any of this, right. And this is like a big problem with a lot of Linux distros. They don't tell people to do these things. Like even Ubuntu will give you AppArmor, but they won't install any of the profiles. They won't enable any of their built-in AppArmor profiles,
Starting point is 01:07:41 which are pretty sane, by the way. I've used them on server. They're very stable. You won't encounter any issues at all. Like're like nginx and apache will run fine okay you don't have to that's all i know that that's all i ask for just get my stuff to run and it runs fine and it's like you need to be using mandatory access control and if you use red hat systems you're going to be forced into using SELinux anyway. The problem with SELinux, it's just like AppArmor does pros and cons of both. The problem with
Starting point is 01:08:09 AppArmor is you need to configure everything, but the problem with SELinux is they just make the global assumption, oh, you don't have to configure anything. But then everyone just gets upset with it and turns it off, which is most people that I've met in real life who run home servers on CentOS or AlmaLinux or something, they'll just get frustrated and they turn off SELinux.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Because they're like, hey, I'm trying to do this one thing and SELinux won't let me do it, so they turn it off. And that's absolutely the wrong approach to do because you can whitelist stuff in SELinux. There's a GUI tool in Fedora which lets you whitelist stuff in SELinux. Now, I never know what to actually make of the warnings although some of the sometimes it gives me weird stuff like even though i uninstalled snap from my computer it'll occasionally give me warnings saying like snap is trying to access your etc directory i'm like but if it was it should just be allowed to shouldn't it i mean the other problem with snap too is like it requires app
Starting point is 01:09:05 armor so if you're on a red hat based system don't even bother unless you have like some sort of obscure application that you can only get through snap and right now only application i can think of that fulfills that for me like is like ff send but even ff send you can use in a web browser so it doesn't even matter it's just a it's just a command line front end for what would be done in a web browser uh what is the android is anbox that works best in a snap snap oh yeah here's the funny thing about that too well anbox no it is anbox it is Anbox. Anbox doesn't work on non-Ubuntu-based distributions
Starting point is 01:09:48 because they only made it for Ubuntu because that's all they tested on. They tested on a Snap on Ubuntu. So if you use it on Fedora, it doesn't work at all. And I think I also tried it on Arch, and it doesn't work at all. So, like, yeah. And this is before Wagerade was a thing when I tested this. So, like, you're just out of luck.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Because Wagerade wasn't invented yet. this is before all the advances in like linux mobile computing were created i'm surprised that's taken so long to be honest but like even using nbox or wageroid is just not sufficient because we're not running an up-to-date version of android i'm pretty sure wageroid still runs like android 9 or 10 right inbox is even worse because it's like android 8 or 9 um it's just not usable and like you can't you can't use these things on your computer it's like asking for trouble the uh i i think the only thing that's made android support good on on windows is how many people want to play like random mobile games like blue stacks is incredible blue stacks is exactly what you need but no one gives a shit
Starting point is 01:10:55 on linux even though it should theoretically be easier on linux well you want to hear my spicy heart take it's just don't even bother don't give up we're gonna be doing this thing just get a phone yeah that's fair it's it's it's like just don't bother it's like you're literally playing on an inferior it's like say it's like those people who say oh i'm gaming on a on a virtual machine but on integrated graphics and a virtual machine it's like don't be like those people wait there those wait what i'm just kidding those people don't exist i was gonna say the only i'm no i'm probably not kidding because i'm pretty sure there's gonna be someone who says oh i i game on integrated graphics in a virtual machine of virtual cores like but like there are because most people don't know how to use like all these virtual machine gpu pass-through commands i i don't
Starting point is 01:11:41 even know how to do any of that go watch mud Mudahar's video. He'll tell you. Mudahar, even Mudahar, I did watch his videos by the way, did Jack Diddley squat to help you at all because not only that, his video was also you have to use nested hyper-virtualization in Hyper-V to play Valorant, but with nested
Starting point is 01:12:00 virtualization, he doesn't even describe at all on how to set that up. He only gives you the flags of how to set up your windows virtual machine in kvm right so and now you start to see why like i'm more critical of people on youtube because it's like they'll tell you all of these great things but then they don't explain to you how they're doing all of these things and i'm not saying that like most linux channels don't fall into this pitfall but it's a lot of more of the mainstream tech channels which fall into this where like my favorite i'll throw him under the bus because i've thrown him under the bus before linus tech tips linus tech
Starting point is 01:12:33 tips has this nasty habit of he says like oh well here's this cool thing i did with my work server my home lab or whatever but then he doesn't show you the process of doing any of it it just happens off camera and then all of a sudden everything is now magically set up and it's like why because a lot of stuff is being done by his employees yeah yeah i figured see at least with linus tech tips he has the he might be stupid but he had the foresight to hire people who knew how to do it like that's bad yeah like and i'm glad he's able to do that because not many people are he won't admit he'll probably admit it like if you ask him but like not many people have the like you know the humility that's the right word to to say like i don't know
Starting point is 01:13:19 something yeah yeah but i know i can pay my employees to figure it out for me. And I know he's the exception, not the norm. Like, like I'm glad he's in the state that he is. I've, I've certainly seen some of your videos where you include a, a montage of other tech YouTubers saying things about Apple products, especially. It's really dumb.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I hear so much dumb stuff on the internet. You have no idea like there there's a lot of stuff which i just don't agree with like before i'll i'll tackle last pass because that was the most recent video i've done about this which i think i actually made a lot of the time so i made a video about migrating from last pass to bit warden like three years ago had nothing to do with the uh vulnerability i just wanted to like go and migrate over. Well, if it was three years ago, that would have been the first, that other vulnerability. It was between two vulnerabilities.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It had nothing to do with one of them. I just wanted to go and migrate over. And then that happened and people were like, oh my God, thank you. I desperately wanted to know how to do this. That video just like shot up in views. Yeah, but LastPass's vulnerability wasn't even that awful. I desperately wanted to know how to do this. That video just like shot up in views. Yeah. But last pass is vulnerability. Wasn't even that awful.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Like it was literally just like, if someone gains access, if you click on a website and it can fill out a field and gain access to a specific website, if you, because of last pass is auto complete, like that's not that big of a deal. Like there are worse things to like get upset about.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Like what's happening of last pass now is because the databases themselves were stolen and some of the older databases were encrypted using i forget which hash but they were encrypted with a bad hash so if they can the hackers could potentially decrypt anything with those hashes but it's funny i don't think anyone has actually found evidence of those databases being sold on the wild or anything. So I don't know what's actually happening. I know there was talks about maybe possibly someone had encryption keys. I don't know if that was even true or that was just a rumor that was spreading around. That sounds like a rumor. I don't think that was actually true.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I prefer not to actually just do rumors. But like there are a bunch of people who said like last, like I'll throw tech lore under the bus because I did it in that video. He said that LastPass had multiple incidents, but if you actually looked into the incidents, they handled the incidents pretty well. Where LastPass screwed up was the pricing on their application is awful. It's like you can only use one device on it, and that only happened after their CEO got like like that's why i left yeah when they changed the pricing in because that happened like one year
Starting point is 01:15:53 after log me and bought them out or now they're go-to except now go-to doesn't own them anymore because they're not owned by some venture equity capitalist fund yeah that's submit did i say capitalist i mean capital venture capital equity fund slip of the tongue it's basically the same thing yeah whatever yeah basically like this yeah it's like i hate hearing stuff like this online it's like there are some people on youtube who make me really angry like there are some people on linux youtube when i hear stuff come out of their mouth i get really angry like i've resisted making videos about them too like i'm not gonna say who but like i've heard some things that are you already mentioned luke luke yeah luke he has
Starting point is 01:16:33 this thing where like say what you will about it i i want to i'll bring it up in a future video sometime but like luke has this thing where like he people are upset that like he's doing political stuff it's like guys it's his channel. He can do whatever the heck he wants. But the other problem with Luke is like, I remember a couple of the one video, I think he said like snaps, flat packs and app images are a government backdoor.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Like I'm serious. He said this on like one of his walks in the woods. And it's like, that's not acceptable. Like we can't just, people wouldn't let that fly if it came out of the mouth of someone else but like people let it fly when he said it off the top off the cuff in like a walk in the woods i remember when he said that he just didn't even know they existed until like
Starting point is 01:17:14 that week or something so but the other problem is like with like you know manjaro you know manjaro i don't need i say anymore like i think you think, and I think even Heverson did his thing after like Manjaro just being just terrible, you know, being Manjaro being Manjaro. I gave Manjaro a fair chance a long time ago, but then I realized, oh, you could just bump up the trees. And then I'm like, wait, if I'm bumping up the trees, why don't I just use Arch Linux? And then I just stopped and use something else i think people assume that i just genuinely hate manjaro i don't hate manjaro the problem is it seems like every other week they just do something that makes
Starting point is 01:17:59 no sense it's like yeah but do you want to know what the other thing i did they did which i think like really ruined the reputation of linux being the first distro linus tech tips chose like oh that's the other because manjaro just chose in their infinite wisdom to ignore everything on the arch wiki and said yeah let's freeze updates what a great that's such a terrible idea whoever that by itself is is reason enough to not use up uh not use not use not use manjaro like yeah because it's against what the core of arch linux is and they make no changes to arch's packages if they wanted to go like full ubuntu with it where you just take what devian does and do it again but differently fine but if you're gonna have this like weird kind of mismatched
Starting point is 01:18:47 thing where you're like half rolling some updates and just just don't if you want to use a distro based on arch use one of the more vanilla distros like endeavor i don't i've not used endeavor enough to really give a good like comment on it but like if you can still do all this hardening stuff on it after you touch it but i think endeavor the issue is with arch as a whole is getting like installing keys into secure boot is a nightmare if you are not using the manual install right right um because calamaris doesn't have a thing for it, I don't think. But I could be wrong. I mean, when I did it, it was back when Intergos was a thing.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And Intergos isn't around anymore. Is it not? No, they're gone. Endeavor is now Intergos, basically. Because a lot of their developers went to Endeavor. And they gave up. And probably rightfully so. Because Intergos' installer was so buggy i don't
Starting point is 01:19:46 know what they did with it but like it was so but i don't blame them for giving up it was just so buggy um and i never did use any other arch derivative because i was just like i don't want to use any after manjaro i was like i don't want to use like any of these modified ones like and then especially if you like open arco linux hilarious if you use the boot of arco linux no matter which spin you choose like if you choose like his i3 spin or his mate spin or whatever doesn't matter which one you choose xfce is your live boot image why i don't know but when you install it then it will give you mate or whatever so i don't don't ask me why i don't know if that's the case anymore but But that is another weird little thing. Yeah, it's certainly a weird one.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I didn't know about that. I don't think it was like that when I last used it, but I could be wrong. Someone will correct me in the comments, probably. I don't know if that's the same anymore. That was a long time ago. That was like six years ago. Okay, right, right, right. I don't think it was the
Starting point is 01:20:45 k you know no when i last used it i picked the kde version and it was kde uh in that like okay yeah so they've probably done away with that by now that seems like some like early distro thing where they weren't really sure how to get things yeah they didn't have like all those tiling window manager spins when i tried it so now they have for some reason they have like 24 spins of like every desktop environment ever man most of the uh most of the tiling window managers just don't need to exist they're like half of them are the exact same thing no you know what if you don't use wayland i'm not using you that's that's that's the end of the story i gave up on on that a long time ago because if you look at my older videos
Starting point is 01:21:25 i was using awesome wm for a long time and i was using it for years but i had stopped because i was like i was like okay i don't want to end up in a boat i want to get i want to get out of the boat because i want to see what the rest of the world's going to be doing and i figured because of the channel i'm like well i'm doing it for content and i didn't tell anyone i was doing it for content so i ended up installing gnome and i just i was also curious because i wanted to see who would react and say why are you using gnome because there's always inevitably there's going to be someone who's just going to ask why are you using it i did get some comments like that um but surprising but yeah it was gn GNOME. The only thing I really ask out of it is just give me tiling windows. I don't care what you do otherwise.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Just give me tiling windows. And unfortunately, the only viable alternative other than random people's projects on GitHub, because frankly, that's what it is, just random people's projects on GitHub, which is not enough in my book to get approval, was the PopShell from System76, on github which is not enough in my book to like get approval was like is the pop the pop shell from system 76 which you can install if you're on fedora and ubuntu but not arch so then it just complicates i don't think you can get on arch but i believe you can get it if surely it'd be in the you are it probably is by now it wasn't like at the time when i thought about it there's a few
Starting point is 01:22:43 district major distros that it's not in either uh it is in the aur now yes oh it's in the aur but not the main yeah yeah but that's the problem that leads into another problem if you have to resort to using a ppa a fedora copper or the aur is there really a point it's also flagged as out of date since four months ago yeah Yeah, yikes. Because another problem is, even if your distro ships one of these Gnome shell extensions, yeah, that's nice and all, but it's probably not up to date.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Like Fedora ships Material Shell, but because all packages are frozen at the start of the new Fedora release, Material Shell hasn't been updated for fedora 43 we're going home 43 so it doesn't work at all so if you open the extensions menu it's like this hasn't been updated for the newest version of cano and i'm like why should i use it if you can't keep up with gnomes release cycle like it says in 76 or some random maintainer on fedora and fedora's packaging people are able to do it how come they can't wait so they ship a version that's
Starting point is 01:23:46 not compatible with the version of gnome they have yes don't ask me why i don't know why that is i'm sure like someone pledges to fix it or something later but like that's why freon doesn't work on the current version of gnome either at least when i first installed fedora 38 yeah freon didn't work either so like but also like that's part of the reason why they give this buffer period like you're not supposed to do what i did and just upgrade immediately you're supposed to wait for like between like versions typically the good practice is like you wait you jump two numbers rather than one number so like if you go for let's say when fedora 39 comes
Starting point is 01:24:26 out you jump from 37 to 39 that would be right the best practice because you're still getting the same packages um then some of the older packages too but they do remove stuff like between 37 and 38 magic wormhole which is a program i did a video on a million years ago was removed but there is actually it's a Python program where you can share files using a protocol that was developed by some guy on the Navy who did it in his spare time and is on a Python talk from 2018
Starting point is 01:24:57 where he showed a really cool file verification, like handshake verification system between the server and the two people. And what can be described as only the most simple thing ever. But it's so interesting because Linux Mint actually copied that protocol
Starting point is 01:25:16 and made their own GUI fork of it called Warpinator. And now in GNOME Circle, there's a thing called Warp. And it uses, because the python version hasn't received many updates it's now using a rust version of the of magic wormhole so because the python version just wasn't able to keep up with updates i feel like i was planning to do a video on this you just never get around to it yeah but uh matt there is a rust version yeah and i can confirm the rust
Starting point is 01:25:46 version does work the rust version is pretty pretty usable and it's the same protocol and handshake underneath so all the same uh file file checks are done too because if you ever fail what's interesting is uh if someone ever touches the file it will actually give you a warning when you try to download it which will say like someone may be trying to like intercept your file or something so that's okay but sometimes they'll just give you that as a false flag like sometimes it's a false flag so you just ignore it but you just have to reinitiate the download again because something went wrong with the handshake yep so you know you're getting the right file but it's only if there's two people involved like if it's you and just an automated system it's not going to work right right like there needs to be like you send it to other people
Starting point is 01:26:29 but then the other issue is of this it's like now you need to have a program installed and if the rust version only really works on like apple and linux then what's even the point of using it on windows yeah yep yep yep i mean technically it could work as long as you have rust installed i'm pretty sure you can get it it's not there's not a cargo package for magic wormhole rust yet but um it is a thing uh what the heck were we talking about how do we get the magic wormhole last thing i remember properly was ltd and tech youtubers but i feel like it was like 10 minutes ago. I don't know. Oh, LTT. Oh, actually, did you see... Freaking Manja ruining everyone's lives. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Ah, yes, there we go. Do you... I don't know if you saw it, but recently, Lions put out a video about how Windows 8 wasn't that bad. And spent a lot of the video talking about the Metro layout but there aren't defenses to
Starting point is 01:27:28 the metro layout and i think one of the most common ones at the time i never watched the video so i don't actually know the most common one is the reason why they also chose to do that was because of integration of windows phone yeah which was yeah which is arguably the big reason why they chose to do it and because my favorite favorite guy at Microsoft, Panos Panay, was back when he was the head of Surface, was shilling computers with touchscreens. Because that was the new fangled thing at the time. Everyone was going to have one.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Yeah, everyone's going to have one, unless you're an Apple computer. It still doesn't have one. Although, according to talks from Ningxiu Kuoo they might include one in the future they are thinking about it okay but they're being held off because of supply chain shortages like many other things in apple's product line like they've been held off from the ar headset for supply chain shortages so at least according to him that's the that's the talk of the town you've mentioned i've heard you mentioned the ar headset a couple of times i hadn't even heard of that until yeah there is a big art it's like many of the unicorns and apple although it's not really a unicorn this is more
Starting point is 01:28:37 like uh the ufo of apple where like people are know that apple is planning on making an ar headset like that they want to sell to people and if anything is going to murder facebook's business it's going to be apple selling an ar headset yeah uh apple as much as we can meme on apple for like you know their shitty repair practices all that stuff when apple When Apple says they're going to make something, they usually end up making a really good product. Jen, no. I'm going to argue they haven't followed through on that process in the last couple of years. Apple's been slowly getting worse.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And you start to notice these trends when you think back to some of the little things. Like, for example, on iOS 12, back when I was one of the first phones i was forced into they changed it so that now the you know in android there's the top menu you can flip down to turn off the wi-fi bluetooth you know maybe like extra yeah things in your system or like double rotation lock like on one on apple's phones you used to be able to when you turn off wi-fi or, it'll just turn off.
Starting point is 01:29:53 But for some reason, iOS 11 and the move to High Sierra, something happened where now when you do that, it doesn't turn it off. It only disconnects you for 24 hours, and it doesn't actually turn it off. The only way to actually turn off the radio is if you go into system settings and manually uncheck the box then it will turn it off but that button will be turned off again when you install an update for some weird reason so for example not when you install an update it'll turn off airplane mode if you had it on already it'll turn on your wi-fi and it'll turn on your Bluetooth. Playing devil's advocate here. I know why they've done this. Besides, you can come up with plenty of tinfoil-y reasons, but
Starting point is 01:30:32 there's a user reason why they've done this. Most of the time, you don't want to disconnect from Wi-Fi. You don't want to turn off your ability to connect to Wi-Fi. You just want to disconnect from a network. So't want to you don't want to turn off your ability to connect to wi-fi you just want to disconnect from a network so you want to have like a brief period where you're not getting any
Starting point is 01:30:50 notifications to your phone but you want to have it be fairly easy to connect back to a network when you want to i don't know how to do that go back to the same minute you press the button again no i'm not saying that the way they did it is good. I'm just saying this is their logic. It's bad logic is what it is. I don't think it's because of that. Because when you look at Android, Android doesn't have this problem. When you install an update on Android, you install the update over Wi-Fi or cellular. Yes, you can actually do over cellular, which Apple doesn't allow you to do.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Because I actually have tested this. And it's because I have never brought my phone to my house because i have an iphone and i've never brought my phone to my house ever i've mentioned this in a video i don't actually use my phone at my house because the number that i get everyone calls me at including windward which is my signal phone number is all voice over ip so that way i actually but the way the convoluted solution i picked was there's an app on android and iphone called my pseudo and my pseudo used to at the time only work on iphones right and i'd been locked into that like really early but my pseudo has this thing where you can transfer your i your identities between phones or share them by scanning a QR code. So what you do is you open the QR code, and then what you do is you take a picture of it with another.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Basically, my phone and my iPad have only seen each other once. Right. And that's when I connected my pseudo, and that was it. So I did it all over public wifi. So yes, I now have a device at my house, which is not connected to, to one.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I didn't buy it in my name and I bought it in an Apple store out of state. So there's no link. There's no link there. And it's also in using a throwaway email, which is only used for that Apple ID. So those devices have only seen each other once and it's basically how i get all of my phone calls and whatnot at my house about having to actually like use my phone at my house because phones are just tracking devices that's yeah people
Starting point is 01:32:59 are willingly bringing tracking devices into their homes and it's like now you have an android phone it's easier with this because with android well it's easier and harder so for one you want to pay my pseudo money with just an android phone if you're one you can't be using stock android you need to be using graph unos which they did add in a patch like last year which does allow my pseudo to work about google play services but you can't pay the money if you do that right so if you enable sandbox google play services on the google play through graphing os not micro g you have to use sandbox play services or the real google play services you can pay the money using a google play store gift card but you still have to make a throwaway google account now in defense of the throwaway google account it's not hard to make a throwaway google account
Starting point is 01:33:50 sure because i made a throwaway google account i mean i don't know about your country but i know there's it's harder to make throwaway accounts using unique phone numbers but with me it's like my phone number's only been used for my apple id so my real phone number because apple will extract your real phone number anyway and we know this because one of we knew this already because of if you request your data from apple they'll literally put it on your csv file yeah but we also know this because if you read a paper from trinity college of the dublin by douglas leaf if you read paper, he talks about the data, the IMEI information that's collected from Apple devices
Starting point is 01:34:30 is substantially more than Android devices. So Apple, for some reason, will collect your IMEI. And then I believe in Google, you need to have Google Play services if you want to enable eSIM. But that's just yet another thing. But technically, LineageOS and KalexOS do have eSIM support enabled, even though it gives Google your IMEI, which you think they would remove because it's proprietary and part of the Google Play frameworks, but they don't.
Starting point is 01:35:02 It's still technically in android sort of like how lineage os will still leak your dns address your real dns address to google because it calls a google server like graphene os and calyx os actually proxy stuff through their own network so they don't see who you are right right every time one of these conversations stops I have no idea how the hell we get here yeah I don't either I just read too much on the internet yeah I can see that
Starting point is 01:35:38 you spend a lot more time than I have focusing on data privacy and data security. Yeah, because that's what matters more. Like, if you don't have, like, a secure private default, then what's the point? Like, Windows is the best example of this because it's not secure and it's not private. Especially not private because of all of the invasive things Microsoft tries to do to, like, get your identity. Or never mind that that like even though
Starting point is 01:36:05 everyone's talking around that report about windows 11 being spyware it's like a german government group did research on this like when windows 10 first came out and it's like this should not be news to people because if windows 11 is just a reskin windows 10 is no different just forgot that's the that's the only. People just forgot that that was the case. And now it's a bit more, I guess it's a bit more mainstream to know that Windows is spyware. But one thing I did want to ask you about is what is the,
Starting point is 01:36:38 besides the things we've already gone over, like Libre, Kernel, and things like that, what are the worst bits of, like, Linux data privacy, data security you hear from people? That's a good one. This might get me...
Starting point is 01:36:53 I've said it on a podcast. You don't have to give any names of people. The people who say you need to use stripped away forks of stuff. The people who are like... You mentioned it in one video,ks of stuff and uh so like the people who are like you mentioned in one video the de-appleified cups for example right or uh using i mentioned that term i think or vs or vs codium versus vs code that's a big one um or like de-googled
Starting point is 01:37:20 chromium versus like ungoogled chromium versus like normal chromium and this is because well one you can't there's a reason why i'm google chromium exists because you can't just patch out like the stuff and it's funny because their patches are still used by other browsers that aren't able to keep up with those changes because i think brave implements on google chromium's patches to remove google's telemetry and graphing os also does too and bromide when they actually update their stuff does as well but um like the these forks of forks is really you're just adding another party to trust and it's not really doing much to help you because now you have to trust all these other people who are touching this thing in addition to trusting that company you can't trust anyway so like the people who are
Starting point is 01:38:06 like well i don't want to use vs code because microsoft is collecting telemetry about me but it's like you can just turn it off in the settings you just turn it off in the settings because it's open source you think people would be crying what would be crying like from high heaven if like if you turned it off and if it was still like collecting telemetry and sending it to microsoft like and because it's open source people would know like immediately like it's the vs code's in a completely different situation from from chromium because you can actually turn it off like in the normal install yeah like you can't do that with chromium you have to like write all those silly patches which is why they never compile it
Starting point is 01:38:45 at all one thing i will say about codium is it does make a bunch of if you don't care about the security part it does make a bunch of other tweaks that uh make it a nicer environment but those are tweaks that you can do in base uh base codium if you just grab the configs oh another one on topic of that another one librewolf versus firefox yeah that's that's the one of the most common ones i've seen so far it's like there's no point in using librewolf if you watch my dumb video about how to install a firefox user js which i spent way too much time editing with such little which got me a lot of payoff but i edited like crap and it doesn't look good at all like which is why i changed outfits like three times in the video like there's there's yeah
Starting point is 01:39:30 there's all sorts of little things like that and the you just know how to do that you don't even need to use like use librewolf it's just a complete joke because librewolf also has to catch up with mozilla and if thunderbirds team if you've read their recent blog post or is having trouble with keeping up with mozilla then we're all doomed like like i'm just saying like that's just how fast browsers move like people think it's reasonable to say they can't because it's like they move so quickly literally before i hopped on with you. Firefox 110. Came out today. Which is the thing.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Firefox 110. Microsoft patch Tuesday. With three zero days in the toe. Apple zero day exploit in the wild. iOS 16.3. And macOS Ventura. Whatever next version of macOS Ventura we're on. All were released today. at the time of our
Starting point is 01:40:26 recording jesus so it's all on what because it's on patch tuesday that's all technically apples was released yesterday but it's still annoying and like it's all really this is just how this is just the way the world moves it's like how debian releases an update every friday it's just that's just how it is it is. I actually didn't know that. Yeah, if you use vanilla Debian, you'll find out they just update everything on Friday. There's no updates for the rest of the week
Starting point is 01:40:54 unless it's really bad. And then they just send out other updates on Friday. I'm not sure what the logic is. I'm too used to the Arch model where things just come out whenever. It is what it is. Well, the problem with Arch, the one thing I like about DNF,
Starting point is 01:41:08 which you can't do in Arch, is Pac-Man doesn't let you actually look at what actually changed. So you kind of have to decrypt a little bit of what happens. So there is a Python script called Arch Audit, which does actually cross-comp the update versus in your system versus what is in arches security advisories which they actually pull from other like security advisories from canonical and susa and red hat and google um so you can't actually use that but then it's also not helpful like well what if you need a bug fix that you're waiting on for a while
Starting point is 01:41:42 like if you're like in the situation where i am let's say i could actually update sddm won't let me log out because nvidia i don't know if it's an nvidia thing but it is the true of both x11 and wavelength 5.26.5 of kde sddm will not let you log out you'll just get a black screen so the only way to get out of it is to hard reset your computer you can't even get into a tty and i'm not sure what it is but it's funny because this wouldn't be a criticism if adora didn't freeze like their desktops yeah that's and you know i i know why they do it because they want to have like some illusion of a model but it's like when something's as broken as this i mean come on like you gotta fix it that's like saying like if imagine if gdm didn't let people log out like people would be losing their minds but like when sdm doesn't let you log out no one cares no
Starting point is 01:42:36 because or at the least fedoras people don't care because they're more focused on the work on workstation not the spins. The spins are purely community stuff. But it's hard. It's hard, man. Someone did recommend Hyper WM to me, and I looked at it, and I'm like, yeah, there's no way I'm getting this installed. Hyper WM?
Starting point is 01:42:59 It's like DWM, but Wayland. That's basically what it is. Oh! Why did I forget? Yeah. Ha ha ha. Just spelled weird. Hyperland, yeah. Yeah, the one reason I eliminated that
Starting point is 01:43:15 for my choice of environments too is because WLRoots hates NVIDIA, so I can't actually make use of it. Okay. I really like Hyperland, but this software, I don't like that people keep recommending it. It is incredibly beta. Like, it's not ready to be run on a production system. It's doing a lot of really cool stuff but it is changing so quickly it's having fundamental
Starting point is 01:43:47 breaking changes coming out like every couple of days stop recommending it let it get go through a development cycle give it six months or a year and then we can start pushing it yeah i mean it is a real thing like people just shouldn't be using beta software i say that as someone who uses the beta version of gimp because the normal version of gimp won't even open up for me anymore it'll crash on certain my thumbnail files now yeah and i don't know why but it only happens when you change the color the warning the verbose warning is not helpful at all so reporting this isn't even helpful and it seems and when i did look it up they're already aware and it will be fixed so like whatever fine i just up the i can't even up the thing because i didn't even i don't And when I did look it up, they're already aware. And it will be fixed. So, like, whatever. Fine.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I can't even up the thing because I don't even have an account on GNOME's GitLab. But, yeah. I tried, okay? Like, I tried using GNOME. But, like, the beta one, it's got Wayland support. GTK3 has all sorts of these really nice stuff in it. it's like i don't want to go back now i haven't used the um the the beta version for a while how is that going like the last one it was like maybe a year ago i mean i haven't done too much of it but it seems to run fine i've used it for a while now i've used it for like a year now and it's working fine.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah. I mean, the one thing I will note though is it does cause incompatibilities with, um, with the previous, the current version. If you use any of the features, which only that version of GIMP can do.
Starting point is 01:45:21 So for example, layer grouping. So if you use any layer groups, now you can't use it with the previous version of GIMP because it doesn't support it. And that's pretty logical. I mean, yeah. You know, one thing that really frustrates me
Starting point is 01:45:35 is Krita doesn't support Wayland, although I did find some hack work around because the hack work around, and it's not consistent because it's some sort of way X Wayland interacts with OpenGL where if you disable canvas acceleration it'll make it perform
Starting point is 01:45:52 terribly but it'll still work on Wayland. And if you don't, what will happen is the canvas will just freeze and you can still draw stuff but you just can't see it. I had no idea that Krita had issues on wayland yeah it's because they don't have a native wayland version right no i got that but i didn't know though i
Starting point is 01:46:11 thought it just ran fine through x wayland it does but it doesn't but only if you disable canvas acceleration at some point you can turn it back on and then it won't cause this problem but then you have to repeat the process all over again. Once you turn it back on. And I'm not sure what it is. They are aware of it though. And it probably. It literally is just. Just use Wayland.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Just use Wayland. I mean like. One of. That was my. One of my holdout programs. The other funny one. I didn't mention in the video. DaVinci Resolve.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Will take away your title bars on KDE. If you use it on Wayland. What? Why? Yeah, no one's reported that one. It can't be because it's proprietary software anyway. But it will take away your title bars. Now, it's not a big deal for me
Starting point is 01:46:56 because I can just use my keyboard shortcut to close DaVinci Resolve. But if I was a KDE user using DaVinci Resolve, I'd be upset. Yeah, I just saw a bug report i guess the report on the kde reddit which is not the place to report it oh it's someone and someone just say it yeah they're like hey the jewel is the bug right i'm pretty sure it's the way kde is doing it and the way it interacts but i'm not kidding that way da vinci Resolve reacts to
Starting point is 01:47:27 KDE in particular because it doesn't happen with GNOME and I'm pretty sure it's the way their window management works on the Linux version which does receive updates by the way which is what surprises me the most it's still the best color it's funny because I've used
Starting point is 01:47:42 Premiere for work and Premiere is DaVinci Resolve is 10 times better than Premiere color you know it's funny because i've used i use premiere i've used premiere for work and premiere is genji resolve is 10 times better than premiere let me tell you there's there's so many stupid little things in premiere like the one bad thing about the genji resolve is you can't move dockable you can't make dockable panels or custom panels you're stuck with however they have it set up but the one thing it doesn't do is crash that's all i can ask for just don't crash but the other problem is hasn't happened is you don't get portability like you can take a premiere project file and bring it anywhere but you can't do that with jira resolve for some reason they
Starting point is 01:48:14 make you export the whole database file when you transfer stuff between computers what yeah this is just a thing they do and um okay the workaround is if you use the cloud version you can just just get it synced automatically yeah but i don't think it's because it was this way before they even started their cloud program so i'm not sure why but that's just how their system is set up that doesn't make any sense well they just assume you're only using one computer i mean like the and it is still davinci resolve is still like one of the number one editing programs in hollywood davinci resolve and final cut are both like the the gold standards of hollywood like premieres used a lot too but not as much
Starting point is 01:49:01 as final cut or davinci resolve i think davinci resolve even copied final cut because that's what that cut mode is supposed to be and i still don't know how to use it partially just out of ignorance and my stubbornness because i'm like i only know how to use non-linear editors that's all i'm going to do i i haven't given it given it fair credence or like i did but it's really cool you can do all sorts of funny stuff i uploaded like raw photos to it because i have some raw photos at my disposal they do work wow photos do work so like at least on nikon's proprietary format for raw photos does work but there are weird things like svgs don't work ogg doesn't work at all you have to convert on
Starting point is 01:49:43 either the proprietary either the windows version or at all. You have to convert on either the proprietary, either the Windows version or the Linux version, you have to convert it out. Okay. So like, and then the Linux version, unless you pay money, can only do H.264 and won't do any other codec, aside from the ones that they allow. So like you can still do DNX8.
Starting point is 01:49:58 They still won't allow you to export it too though. And it's because of stupid patent law in the US. And it's not even the Linux's fault. It's like patent's fault because of stupid patent law in the u.s and it's not even the linux linux's fault it's like it's like patents fault because of how mp4s are because microsoft and apple cough up bucket loads of money to this random company in colorado that squats the patent for mp4 in h.264 encoding and decoding uh we've i've talked plenty about H.264. Fedora did nothing wrong, that's all I have to say.
Starting point is 01:50:31 This is the price of living in alleged freedom land. They did nothing wrong, but also no one cared. I'm just telling you, that's the price of living in alleged freedom land yeah
Starting point is 01:50:46 no i i get it like when you're a u.s the reason why susa doesn't have to listen to any of this is because they're in germany and germany doesn't have to listen to u.s patent law i think susa actually did follow suit though susa did but probably because of philosophical reasons because they had done that traditionally because in order to get get H.264 to work on SUSE, you need to install Pac-Man. Not that Pac-Man, but Pac-Man with a K. Because that's how you install proprietary support for media drivers on SUSE. Or proprietary driver anything on SUSE. You have to use Pac-Man.
Starting point is 01:51:22 I didn't use SUSE long term. I did use it for a couple months on a spare computer and i enjoyed it but doesn't run my vpn software properly so i can't use it that's it if you didn't use my crummy vpn software you could you could use it and just be fine like i think suce is great the only problem is again it doesn't do some procure boot by default because it's a cop-out money to microsoft so that's one thing you can still sign your own thing it's just annoying and also nvidia has been a little weird when i did it on susa and they're and zipper is a little weird especially depending on how you installed it to begin with because if you use tumbleweed tumbleweed which you should be if
Starting point is 01:52:01 you're using leap i don't know why you're using Leap. But if you use Tumbleweed, Zipper, you have to depending on how you set up your system, you have to manually set up everything through their installer. And that's what you're supposed to do. But if you change your mind at any point, you're now going to have packages which will perpetually reinstall unless
Starting point is 01:52:20 you lock them. And that's at least all I've figured out so far. That's because that's just how it is with Tumbleweed. I don't know if that's the case with the normal SUSE. But I'm pretty sure normal SUSE was the same, because they tested it a couple years ago, and that was what they still do. I'm not sure if I'm even doing it right.
Starting point is 01:52:37 I don't even know if that's what you're supposed to do. But I'll figure it out. But one thing SUSE does, which I greatly appreciate, is all of the security controls, unlike a lot of other distros, is there for you and yassed. You can just click a button, and it'll just do all of them for you. Unfortunately, some of those buttons, if you know what... I mean, some of them are really obvious.
Starting point is 01:52:58 They'll actually lock you out of your system if you're not careful. But they're really obvious though like it's really stuff like you know oh i'll just delete like sudo for my computer or something you know it's obvious stuff yeah yeah yeah so like if sudo goes the wrong way or whatever that because that was an update a while ago but yeah really it's just you know linux is not great yeah i hate i hate everything i hate it is awful i hate linux i hate everything i hate it i hate linux i hate windows i hate i have no horse in the race i think everyone has equated me to being a next gen but i have no horse in the race if linux were to disappear tomorrow i would just say oh i'll
Starting point is 01:53:35 just i'll just go to mac then great bye and i'll be the end of that well or uh speaking of uh linux though and you did mention you're using nvidia i did want to know what your experience has been over on the wayland side oh clean clean nothing wow yeah okay but i also don't have all of the new features that a lot of other people want right like i don't have a high dpi monitor i still use a monitor from like 2007 Yep, yep. And it works great. My newest monitor is from 2014. What do you work with? 1080p. Okay, so it's still 1080p.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Okay, cool. It still has DVI, but it does also have HDMI. It was starting to get out at that point. But my other monitor from 2014, funnily enough, doesn't have HDMI. It only has DVI and VGA, I think. Right, there was a weird period there where HDMI just vanished off monitors. But yeah, Wayland's been great been great you know there's literally nothing you won't you i don't notice anything all the games i played it worked just fine all of the programs i've used work just fine mostly
Starting point is 01:54:35 the only exception would be a program i am not allowed to talk about on youtube which lets you you view youtube videos through an electron wrapper um right that didn't work on wayland for a long time and it was largely because of issues they were having with electron and it was giving them issues outside of the issues that you know just electron being electron basically that's why they couldn't do it but now it works through x wayland and is fine but you know really the game changer for wayland is when chromium is supported on on uh natively on wayland which it really isn't it well it kind of is kind of isn't it's not it's not like really supported like and it's funny because like i'm talking to you on this through a chromium
Starting point is 01:55:20 based browser yeah and you're not supposed to use chrome through a flat pack at least for my reading and it's because it does weird flat pack will do weird things which interfere with the permission sandboxing system that chromium has set up right so you should rely on using a native package instead so if you're using brave or chromium or google chrome you need to use the package for your system. But even Google Chrome on Linux has this weird thing where they don't sign their binary correctly if you try to verify it for some reason. But it works. I don't know a real way to fix that't because that doesn't exist of other chromium based
Starting point is 01:56:05 browsers because they just give you a repo i vivaldi or brave or whatever will give you a repo and same with microsoft edge i think edge will also give you a repo i had no idea that it was signed wait what i don't remember what it was but like there was something weird with the chrome the way google distributes their debian binary which which does weird stuff. But it's only the Debian one. I'm not sure what it was. And I'm pretty sure it's something with an internal system, because I know they use Debian internally, so I don't
Starting point is 01:56:34 know. I have no idea. I'd never even heard of that happening. Yeah, but once Chromium supports it, I think that's the real game changer. Because that gets Elect like in the in this like fixed that get that's pretty which is really a huge one any type program that uses typescript which is also which is also nice but that's you know that's scripting whatever that will work anyway it's really just anything that gets displayed and really it's just
Starting point is 01:56:59 dragging everyone kicking and screaming that's really what all of development is it's just dragging people who don't want to update kicking and screaming like especially windows but like linux is part almost as guilty in this boat in some some ways i think in some cases linux might be worse like it is sort of like there are some things which are more understandable like like if you really wanted to make a secure system you wouldn't be using open ssl you'd be using libre ssl right because there's most people don't take advantage of a lot of the features that are in open ssl realistically realistically speaking and there's just been crippling vulnerabilities in open ssl and i'm
Starting point is 01:57:39 pretty sure it was just made by one random guy here in the u.s which is a lot of open source programs but it's the truth. And LibreSSL was a full rewrite done by the BSD teams. And they act the free BSD people and it's much cleaner. Like the problem is there's a lot of programs that require OpenSSL's features and they don't work correctly. So you can't really use LibreSSL,
Starting point is 01:58:00 but that's more like a minor one. That's like, I understand why people don't do it because like there are legitimate features that are in Open ssl which are not in libre ssl it's like system d hatred you know like system d hatred i'll describe it as like the every all those system d haters are making the wrong points like the points they should probably if you're watching you listen to your they absolutely are in my comment section what they need to actually sell instead is not sell the speed because who cares about some sort of metric because people don't listen to like metrics because people react on emotions they don't react on on metrics like that does that's not enough to make someone the thing
Starting point is 01:58:39 the speed one is they don't rely on crazy conspiracy theories like the people who said it's lenart pottering's way of getting Red Hat to control... No, my favorite new conspiracy is now SystemD is a Microsoft project, because Lenart works at Microsoft. Yeah, that's not true. Lenart only started working last year, so, yeah, nope. But the real thing they should be selling is the fact that because systemd is so bloated it's more secure to use a non-systemd based equivalent
Starting point is 01:59:08 like OpenRC is the big one because it's supported by like at least of the major distros that use it, supported in Gen 2 supported in Alpine I think Void Linux also has OpenRC version 2 there I believe so yes
Starting point is 01:59:23 those are the only ones I can think of. I didn't look into Ardix or DevLon or whatever. I'm sure they have one. I know DevLon has one, but I don't know about Ardix. I'm pretty sure Ardix is open. What people should really... Because SystemD is part of that monolithic
Starting point is 01:59:39 part of Linux where if you don't need what it offers, you can just live don't like just live without it like there's a reason why like it's just don't be part of like like if you want to be the real rebel it's don't use like a real Linux rebel it's don't use systemd and it's like and that's part of part of the good reasons that encourage you not to is because of security but it's like you have to also acknowledge that there are programs that literally require it you cannot like do anything about that yeah i was gonna say about the speed thing i don't i don't know why anyone makes that argument
Starting point is 02:00:14 like it is true but it's not it's not a good it's also stupid good way to convince people so when i when i boot my system the system is at the login screen before my monitor turns on. Like, I don't care if it's a couple seconds slower. It doesn't matter at all. Well, if you use encrypted LVM, you'll experience another password screen anyway, so then you don't even notice. Because Grub or Systemd boot has to load in that screen which lets you type in your password like okay whatever well you're gonna be doing that anyway like you know the one thing i've never done probably because i've been too lazy or i'm just
Starting point is 02:00:57 technically inept there's a lot of things i'm technically inept with that i'll freely admit with computers like you say i don't know how to use i don't know how to use git at all okay in fact someone chided me on mastodon basically saying many i know an eight-year-old who can use it i'm like great then how come i don't know how to use it you've traded all your all this other knowledge for your security knowledge which is probably more important than most of the rest of it because what do you realistically do of git git clone that's about it that's all i know yeah and i do know how to do git commit but then for some reason the ci pipeline rejects all of my things and says i'm wrong so then they're like why did you hop into ci pipelines i'm like because this is a real thing people do not some sort of made-up fantasy thing like backing everything up to my own personal git server in the cloud like
Starting point is 02:01:43 then it's like it can't even like pull things properly i don't know how to pull things properly and then there's all sorts of branch things like how do you figure this out without using the website so then i just resort to using the website every time because i'm like this is pointless and then in fact there's this one outstanding issue on my git lab which is literally on a script on how to rip tiktok videos but it doesn't work anymore because the why word was cannot be named needs to be updated for TikTok because they changed the way their API works.
Starting point is 02:02:10 And there's literally nothing I can do about that. Like if it wasn't for like TikTok changing their API, that wouldn't be a problem. And it's because of the Android client. They must've done something with the Android client to change how videos are being delivered to people. But I do have one major Git project in the works. I have tested it on my personal video.
Starting point is 02:02:33 It's actually for content creators. So if you're interested, you can use it. But you do need to get a hold of... I actually did make a video on it a while ago, but it's an evolution of a script I did in a previous video on how to, if you have copyrighted video, you can cut up the video into pieces, and then you scramble it all into one file. Now, my original video was I had to do that all manually. But now that process is done automatically through Canoe Core Utils. But now that process is done automatically through Canoe Core Utils. So you can just type in the start time of where your clip starts, type in the end time of where your clip starts, then give it a name, and then the duration of how long you want in between each clip.
Starting point is 02:03:18 And then it will cut that up automatically. This is all part of the original script. The only difference is the part where it merges all the videos together is now done for you so this is act and i have made liberal use of this when i edit videos so like you ever wonder how i choose footage i actually don't because what i do is i actually cut up all the big tech events into million pieces cram them all back together into one big video drag that video into my timeline and then pick like random clips because the random process chose it for me and people don't even know because they what people are more distracted by is the actual visual uh-huh uh-huh so the result is like this is what a lot of
Starting point is 02:03:57 movie channels on youtube have to do to dodge like i shouldn't say dodge we're on youtube i mean uh understandably respect the youtube content id system which can do no wrong absolutely so what you have to do is also an experimentation and from what i've seen from other channels is you need to you can do clips that are less than 10 seconds generally speaking and they will not get detected. But if you do audio, it needs to be like seven seconds. And I have actually abused this, and my script actually abuses this, because when I say consecutive clips, that means consecutive uncut footage of the copyrighted thing. So the example that I used in that video was at the end,
Starting point is 02:04:40 I showed five clips from The Dark Knight, which is obviously copyrighted material but because they're all out of sequence the algorithm detects them all as separate individual clips that are not consecutive so you're able to show that many clips without getting in trouble and this is actually what how my my big tech bingo videos were created. They were created because all of the big tech events are copyrighted. You will get copyright claimed if you just upload them in their entirety. Although I did find one channel that uploaded the recent Samsung one in its entirety. But that was like they don't have any subscribers and I don't even know.
Starting point is 02:05:21 Or they got written permission, which is another thing. If you read that disclaimer at the beginning, if you ask for written permission from the Samsung PR team and they give it to you, then you can do it. But what you can do is to evade that is you can scramble this clip and then you can upload – you scramble the clips of my thing, then you can upload it as long as you offer some sort of meaningful commentary on the event itself or something being presented in that part of the event which is why i specify to start time and end time so you can cherry pick a certain part of the event if you're going to
Starting point is 02:05:53 talk about only a certain thing that way when you let your mouth run you can just throw some footage on there and make your video look slightly more professional than it actually is and you can actually see even big YouTubers do this. They just probably do a little more, make it look a little better than I do. And you still have to go in and manually edit it because sometimes a script, there will be a cut in the actual video before your video cuts up the thing.
Starting point is 02:06:18 So you have to go in and manually cut out a part where they edit. And Kdenlive is not good at this because, especially if you use proxy clips, the playback will not do this correctly and if you look at my older videos you'll actually see this is a problem where like before a video will cut more before i cut the video itself will cut but i couldn't see it because of caden live's proxy clips right huh but if you do do this i love it but another thing is you're protected by the algorithm. You're protected, at least in the US and at least English speaking countries. So you would be protected under fair dealing in Australia.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Because especially if the big tech events, because the other reason I chose them is because they're free. It's free admission. That's the other big one. Movies are technically you have to pay to get a hold of either a subscription service on like Netflix or on Amazon amazon yeah or by get buying a dvd but with the big tech events it's different the big tech events they're not protected at all online like you can literally just download them off of youtube or you go to directly to their website and like i did of apple and rip the
Starting point is 02:07:19 actual m3u8 stream out of the out of the website and depending and because they're free admission under fair dealing you're not causing them a loss in financial resources because it's an event they released for free and the other portion is if you edit out parts where because i do edit out parts where, because I do edit out stuff that was originally in those videos where that if you cut out parts of the event, they're not getting the full experience of watching the whole thing because I don't show the whole thing. I just only show the most funny or interesting parts.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Like if you cut that out, that means you're not getting the experience of watching the full event because that part of the event is missing. So then they can't claim that you're getting the experience of watching the full event because that part of the event is missing so then they can't claim that uh you're stealing the experience of watching the event because i'm not stealing the experience of watching the event and then the other reason is if you edit it that also adds another layer on top of it whereas you're modifying the original footage but therefore you're transforming it so it's not the original anymore yeah all the stupid legal stuff you have to do on youtube and i feel like a lot of linux youtube doesn't understand this which is whereas a lot of at
Starting point is 02:08:28 least out of so far at least only movie youtube channels have figured this out because they have to it's part of their like their stick to review movies you have to edit videos this way i think especially um especially linux youtube is kind of like five or six years behind the rest of youtube like i occasionally get these comments being like why do you have like the face thumbnails like guys this is literally the standard practice now like what are you i actually don't do i've actually avoided that like actually showing myself in a thumbnail i've only done it for like twice for like personal videos but like i've never done it again i just chose not to no that's totally and i i decided to stop thinking about thumbnails again i'm just i'm just template it this is gonna sound awful i'll tell you right now i stole my the my the layout of my thumbnails of all people
Starting point is 02:09:17 because he's in trouble now darman the famous youtube channel that gets millions and millions of views and if you look at his thumbnail, my thumbnails are just a carbon copy of his just slightly different. They're not the same because they don't have the same person with like making the weird closeup, the close weird closeup of a person's face, making whatever, whatever you call drug guys or whatever.
Starting point is 02:09:39 But like, if you look at my thumbnails and cover the, his is literally just a carbon copy. I didn't think about it. I was like, well, he must be successful, so I must do it too. So I just took a little fusion of his and it's a mixture of his thumbnail, the Linux experiment, and some of my own personal little touches. So for example, the backgrounds are almost always like stock wallpapers,
Starting point is 02:10:09 or you go to one of those free stock photo websites and just blur it and then people don't even know yeah yep yep yeah go to unsplash unsplash is great uh unlike pexels which requires a login for some dumb reason though if you log in they'll give it to you for free okay sure no it's not pexels it's pixabay that makes you log in what am i saying pixabay is the one that makes you log in that's stupid sure wait if it what what why do you whatever what is this that's no i'm just confused why they they want to log in if everything's free uh in order to get the higher resolution one no i i still look at it no i don't i understand that i'm confused about why they require that yeah i don't know it's so they can try to get you in the pipeline to get you to pay money oh do they have a sign up
Starting point is 02:10:55 for yeah okay that's because you can pay for their premium service to get certain ones okay it's like what unsplash does because you know how they unsplash or getty images watermark certain photos same same reason right okay fair enough no that makes sense huh um i i have an unhealthy knowledge of u.s copyright law and it's not even like it's only the copyright law that applies to me right in particular which is only reason i i i did heavy research on all this stuff before I actually implemented it. Well, yeah, if you're going to be reacting to content like that, it's probably for the best.
Starting point is 02:11:31 Yeah. And there are some parts where I'm really sneaky, where you'll notice the video will cut, and it looks like it's a clip from the same part, but it's actually not. I just shifted over the next cut over and then layered a thing on top of it so i can just keep talking well without showing anything else to be fair judging by the way that some of the apple events look you can just go to the next part and it's
Starting point is 02:11:55 the exact same thing no sometimes like i saw that most recent ones the recent yeah the most recent ones the um the m2 pro and the M1 Max or whatever it was. I actually didn't have to edit that footage at all. That is legit, the footage. It was literally just carbon copy, same Final Cut timeline of them doing the exact same thing. It was so bad. I was shocked at how bad it was. But apparently, Marques Brownlee said he found the version on the website and
Starting point is 02:12:25 there was apparently like 2022 was in the file upload time so it only confirmed to me that i was like oh that just confirmed all of my i'm sorry i saw that video like oh that just confirms all of my suspicions about about this video just being extra footage oh my god the craziest one i heard so far is apple's laying people off. And shockingly, they've refused to lay people off, which is what surprises me the most. And it must be some sort of company culture thing that doesn't exist. Did they do massive hiring over COVID though?
Starting point is 02:12:55 They did not. Yeah, well, that explains it. And I think that's another reason why they didn't. But they've just refused to. They refused to in 2008. Even though that was when they were at their peak right you think they would have hired more but they didn't and like that was you know that was like before steve jobs died that's how you know they were at their peak um and uh in 20
Starting point is 02:13:17 in 20 26 was it 2016 no one of the other big u.s recessions was the other reason why they didn't do it either they got backlash for it from investors they weren't investors weren't very happy they were like you need to lay people off to get money but they're they were in it for the long game it paid off well on that note i think we should just end this show we've gone like 15 minutes over old yeah i know i feel like we didn't that wasn't structured at all i feel like i barely let you said anything i'm so sorry no i i think i've talked about three things on my list of topics it's fine um no that was good i enjoyed that i i always enjoy it when it's just chaotic and no idea what's going on it seems like it's uh
Starting point is 02:14:00 you know more enticing i keep people you know know the my inspiration for a lot of the way my most recent videos have been edited it comes from of all things of the things I binge watch Japanese variety shows because Japanese variety shows have a very if you watch them anyone who's watching has have some very unique quirks to them yeah so for example they hard code all subtitles I know I do a hack work I do a trick work, which is it's just embedded subtitles rather than hard coded subtitles. But it's still functionally the same thing. But then they also do is you have to just cut every five seconds because that's a thing that Japanese, that's what Americans do too. Then there's like British YouTube.
Starting point is 02:14:42 It doesn't cut at all because it's just, why would you do you do that it's like reality shows they don't cut at all um but one of the things that wait what was i talking about uh editing japanese variety shows japanese variety shows yeah they also have all the same sound effects which i all i found an archive of all of those so now i use all those now but then i also mix it up with some other sound effects that i have which are either i pull from youtube because i have no imagination or they're meme sounds because who doesn't have those but the other one is of all places ed ed and eddie because someone uploaded to dropbox an entire folder of all of ed ed and eddie sound effects are and some of them are weird like there, there's, like, there's, like, horse
Starting point is 02:15:25 braying, or, like, or, like, chicken, but there's, like, five chicken sounds. Yeah. There's a lot of them. I've not watched Ed and Eddie in, like, a long time. Someone had to, like, dig really deep into Ed and Eddie, because clearly they were cut from the show. Yeah! Like, you can hear
Starting point is 02:15:41 parts of those, from those clips, like, of, like, someone's voice, like, you can hear parts of those from those clips like of like someone's voice like you can hear like ed's voice trailing into one of the clips or something but like i do use those it works you know it's not my favorite though i'm trying to get away from that you are some of them are nice oh and then mind tests mind tests um sounds because the footstep sounds and mind test well not the footstep sounds but like the sound you make when you break blocks is also one because it's technically royalty free because it has to be or else they would get sued by mojang or microsoft so all of those are also creative commons to the sound effects and mind test
Starting point is 02:16:22 you've definitely put a lot of thought into into these effect into copyright law and these effects haven't you oh and then i also have to make my own text boxes because if you watch a lot of variety shows people love text boxes i don't know what it is now i'm just reusing them and i feel like i need to make new ones but they don't make new ones so why should i so never renovate so I have like six text boxes. I just jump around. You should make text boxes. So I did them all in Inkscape. I might consider it.
Starting point is 02:16:59 But before we go on another 30 minute tangent, let the people know where they can find you all right i'll share this now this is actually the first time i'm sharing this you're so special i'll share this right now i will give my email i promised i would give it but i'm never do not put this in text that's all i ask for do not put this in text anywhere okay you can put it i don't i'll just say it is hello at my domain name okay if you know what my domain name is just go to go to my channel you'll find my domain name okay all right i'll probably share it in a video but i have to like i have to do it in such a way where even the auto-generated
Starting point is 02:17:35 subtitles can't see it because we know for a fact bots scrape those and i'm not even going to be listing this on the page where it's like sign in to view your business inquiry links i'm like or fill out a captcha to do that i'm like nope i'm not doing that either because clearly there are like scam vpn companies that do that but basically just go to when it's ready go to trafleton.com it's not ready which is just my name trafleton.com and it is it's funny that domain didn't cost me a lot at all i thought it would have been worse yeah for a dot com usually dot coms are relatively expensive yeah it was it was coveted but i i got it um yeah it's basically just traffic to the common also on mastodon and twitter on twitter i'm less liable to answer you especially because
Starting point is 02:18:20 freaking elon did you know he actually ruined my website when i was testing my website because he privated his account and because i actually embedded two tweets from him those two pages made so i couldn't compile the website so i hate him even more than i already did oh oh it's fun fact about elon the um i don't know if it's been delayed again, but as of recording this, the change to the Twitter API has been delayed twice. So expect a third delay, I guess. What do you mean delayed?
Starting point is 02:18:55 Like, it's not going through? Changing the way the... Killing off the free API, making you pay a ridiculous amount of money to use it. Okay. It's just been delayed twice now. I'm surprised. Is this because of the devote that we can't see, or I assume?
Starting point is 02:19:11 The first time was because when the day it was going to be shut off, they broke the website. Like, you literally couldn't tweet unless you scheduled a tweet a minute in the future. That was a fun time. But this second
Starting point is 02:19:25 delay i don't know why probably because they have no idea what they're doing uh yeah maybe the one thing i'm worried about twitter is um when they move away from graph ql from their requests manifest in android because what that's going to do is that's going to break knitter the twitter front end but i used to get rss feeds of twitter and that's going to make me really upset because they're going to do it elon has promised to do it at some point it's going to happen i'm just going to have to accept i can't get rss feeds of twitter anymore and that's unfortunately that's how i get like a lot of like ross young especially because he like posts nothing on his like personal website ever and that has an rss feed but not on twitter so what's the point
Starting point is 02:20:06 then it's like really just y'all ross young because make sure you can get his stuff from his medium page like and then like everyone else i know has moved off because they're just upset they moved off or they had a platform already uh thank you for example also trying to give you trying to give you have a youtube account trying to give you a segue here trying to give you a segue here what segue what
Starting point is 02:20:29 like you know segue to you give your links to where they can find the podcast oh you didn't mention you have a youtube channel oh yeah I'm on youtube and odyssey but if you go to the website you can figure that out it's really just a GitLab markdown document. This episode is such a mess.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Anyway, podcast, listen to the audio version. The video version is on YouTube at Tech Over Tea. If you are watching on YouTube, you'll find the RSS feed on, I think it should be able to just find it somewhere. I don't know. Go to a podcast platform, search Tech Over Tea T, you'll find it. It's on Spotify as well, which you don't have an RSS feed for, which is annoying.
Starting point is 02:21:12 But, you know, you'll find it places. It's everywhere. The main channel is Brody Robertson. I do Linux videos there six days a week. And the gaming channel, Brody on Games. Yeah, go have fun with that. Also on Twitch.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Same name. Yeah. Mirrored to YouTube. Eh? You. Mirrored to YouTube. What? Because you use Restream.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Oh, yeah. Stream on YouTube and Twitch. Yeah, Restream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, do you have any last words? That sounds really grim. Do you have any final words for the show? Yes.
Starting point is 02:21:54 Why do you have, like, anime girls in the back? Are they naked? I can't even tell. They look that way. It's probably because of the autofocus. They're probably in bathing suits or somethingocus ah no they're probably in bathing suits yeah just wearing bikinis yeah oh of course lovely yeah exactly oh great it is what it is anyway uh i guess we're gonna go see you guys all right bye

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