TED Talks Daily - How to live a meaningful life | Brian S. Lowery

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

What makes for a meaningful life? Social psychologist Brian S. Lowery explores three ideas tied to the experience of meaning and shows why simply pursuing personal achievements isn't the best... way to find it.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TED Audio Collective on our new series, TED Intersections. Today, we're sharing his TED Talk, which confronts something that many of us who have reached any measure of conventional success have had to face. The question of, is this it? Is this all there is? In his talk, Lowry shares how he found a path for a meaningful and fulfilling life and how we can find it for ourselves after the break.
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Starting point is 00:01:18 Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host. And now, our TED Talk of the day. Life is amazing. Life is incredible. The experiences we have, the possibilities of personal achievement. You could summit Everest.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You could create a huge successful business. You could give a TED Talk. And when you're successful, it feels incredible. Success, the flush of excitement, the celebration, and you should celebrate the congratulations, the posting on Instagram, wherever you put your stuff up, it all feels great. But when that fades, when that starts to fade, sometimes slowly, sometimes all at once, a question comes up. Is this it? Is this all there is? And so I'm going to tell you a little story about myself to give you a sense of this. So for those of you who don't know,
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm a professor at Stanford. When I got my job, I was elated, elated, and a little bit terrified. And I was terrified because when you get a job like that, you know you're going to be reviewed in about seven years. And either you're going to be given tenure, more or less a job for life, or you're going to get fired. It's a little bit like that movie, Glen Gary, Glen Ross, the scene where Alec Baldwin's character goes in to give the motivational speech, and he says, it's going to be a competition. First prize, Cadillac Eldorado. Second prize, set of steak knives. Third prize, you're fired. It's a little bit like that, except there's no second prize. And it turns out, as you might imagine, that has a way of focusing your mind. So I was really, really focused on doing good research, getting my papers published, doing well in the classroom, and all the other little things you need to do to get tenure. And seven years later, I made it. I made it. Thank you. And it was a huge relief. And I was
Starting point is 00:03:34 so excited. I was so excited. But that question came up. Is this it? Is this really all there is? And I reflected back, and I thought about the time I spent in undergrad, five years in grad school, the tears, and there were a lot of tears, the seven years of trying to get tenure. And I had expected, I had hoped that when I made it past that, when I succeeded, when I went through that threshold, life would feel different. I would feel fulfilled. It would feel meaningful to me. My life would feel meaningful. But it turns out that wasn't what happened. Now, when psychologists talk about meaningfulness in life, what they're talking about is a sense that our lives matter, that the world makes sense, that we are more than the sum of our minutes, days, and years on this planet. Now, the research on meaningfulness in life suggests there are three big ideas associated with meaningfulness in life. The first big idea
Starting point is 00:04:41 is coherence. The world needs to feel coherent. After winter comes spring, after spring comes summer, you get up in the morning, you brush your teeth, you have breakfast, you get the kids off to school, you go to work. Those little routines make the world feel knowable, predictable, coherent. Now, when you think about personal achievement, it does create sometimes this experience of coherence because we achieve within a framework. I understood what they expected of me for tenure. I understood that if I got my papers published, that I did well in the classroom, that I talked to the right people, I did all the networking, there was a good chance I'd get tenure. If you're trying to lose weight, you understand. If you change your diet, you exercise,
Starting point is 00:05:26 the weight will come off, or at least we hope so. Now, those things, that framework, gives the world a sense of coherence. Second big idea associated with meaningfulness in life, second big idea, purpose. Purpose. Now, sometimes people use the term purpose as a synonym for meaning in life, and that's not how I mean it here. Purpose is a way of thinking about what your life can be and should be in the future. It's a way of directing your actions. It gives you goals. When you get up in the morning, you know what you need to do. Here's where the drive for personal achievement is strongest. It's clearest. When I was worried about tenure, I knew exactly what I need to do. Here's where the drive for personal achievement is strongest. It's clearest. When I was worried about tenure, I knew exactly what I need to do when I got up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:06:10 When you have a goal, when you're trying to achieve something, you have a clarity about what you should do, how to direct your behavior. So that's the second big idea is purpose. Now, the third big idea, by many considered to be the most important, is significance. And the way I like to think about significance is the sense that you can transcend yourself, that you are more than what you are right now, that you will continue to matter into the future beyond this moment. This is where I think personal achievement falls short.
Starting point is 00:06:44 By definition, personal achievement focuses on you, to focus on the self. And if that's all there is, it's difficult to have significance. So when I want to think about meaningfulness in life, and significance in particular, it brings to mind a quote attributed to Leonardo da Vinci. Some of you might know it.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So Leonardo da Vinci was pur of you might know it. So Leonardo da Vinci was purported to have said on his deathbed, I have offended God and mankind because my work did not achieve the quality it should have. Now, I wasn't there, so I don't know if he said that exactly in that way. But here's the thing. You can imagine it. You understand it. You understand what it means to have even the most glorious achievements and still ask,
Starting point is 00:07:33 is this enough? Is this it? Is this all I add up to? And now back to the episode. When I look back and think about my time early on in my career, I think about when did it feel meaningful? What gave me a sense of meaning? What I think about were my PhD students.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So one of the things that faculty do is train the next generation of faculty. And so you have PhD students, and you have them for a significant amount of time, often could be five to six years. And the relationships are pretty intense. So let me tell you about my first student, Miguel Enzuela. So Miguel was born in El Paso, Texas, in a relatively low-income area, really smart kid, does well in school, ends up at the University of Texas at Austin, which is a great university, does well there, eventually ends up in the PhD program at Stanford. So Miguel gets there the year before I do, and by his own account, he's having a tough time.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It's a little rough. And it's rough in part because he doesn't have the cultural capital that many people that go places like Stanford have. He doesn't understand how the place works. So he's struggling a little bit. Now, when I arrive, I'm really impressed because he's so smart, he's ambitious, and he's asking questions and interested in things that I'm interested in. So I'm really excited to work with him. And so we started to work together. And again, it's really intense. I'm working with him for four years. We see each other almost every day, almost every day for those four years. We see each other almost every day, almost every day
Starting point is 00:09:05 for those four years. And some days we're working together 10 to 12 hours a day. So it's a very intense experience. And what I remember about that time was that I was really worried about doing enough to make sure he would be successful. I was concerned. Am I being a good advisor? Am I giving him what he needs? Am I helping him in his story? Now, keep in mind, I want to get tenure. I still think I'm going to get fired. So even with that fear, I'm worried about what do I need to do to make sure Miguel can continue in his story and his journey. And by the way, he's been great. He got a job. He's been a professor now for over 15 years at UCLA. He's had serious leadership roles at his university, and I'm incredibly proud that I got
Starting point is 00:09:52 a chance to be a little part of that. What do I take from that? What I take from that is that relationships are what provide us meaning. And my guess is you already knew that. I'm saying something a little bit more than that. Not just that relationships provide meaning, but that being a part of a story that is not your own provides meaning. Being a part of a story that is not your own provides meaning. So where does this leave us? One, I think personal achievement is great.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, I love my personal achievements. I'm really happy with my life. I think it's turned out okay. I wish incredible personal achievements for all of you. So I think that personal achievement is fantastic. However, sometimes we replace the deep human need for meaning with chasing of personal achievement. And it's a problem when we confuse those two things. And the reason they get confused, the reason it's easy to confuse them, is because personal achievement is easy to quantify. You know if you got that job. You know if you got that job. You know if you bought that home. You know what your salary is. It's easy to see, and it feels comfortable to chase things you understand and you can achieve. That's one reason. The other reason is that personal achievement feels good. Personal achievement feels good. What we want,
Starting point is 00:11:22 we think we want is happiness, and personal achievement provides a hit of happiness. It feels fantastic when you make that achievement. Getting meaning doesn't necessarily feel that way. For example, studies find that parents who spend more time parenting their children report more meaningfulness in life, but not necessarily more happiness. So these things are not the same. So if you want more meaning in life, what is there to do? One, look for opportunities to participate in others' stories. You might try a little supporting actor energy if you want meaning. Play a supporting role in other people's lives. That's number one.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Two, accept that the pursuit of meaning may not generate happiness. The pursuit of meaning might not generate happiness. In fact, it might be uncomfortable. It turns out that meaning is more associated with the self-providing for others than providing for you or yourself. And that's sometimes a hard thing to do. Expending effort, emotional energy on behalf of something that is not going to return happiness is not something that we tend to think of as a good use of our time. But it turns out it does produce meaning. So let me say just a couple more things. One, I think the human need and pursuit of meaning is both beautiful and profound because when you have meaning in your life, that means that someone else gave you the opportunity to participate in
Starting point is 00:13:07 the story that is not your own. And for that, for the meaning you have in your life, you should feel a deep gratitude, a deep gratitude for the people who have allowed you to participate in the story that was not your own. On the other side, when you allow people to participate in your life, you're giving them the opportunity to generate meaning. And so in that way, the deep, deep human need for meaning connects us in a circle, I think a beautiful and profound circle of generosity and gratitude. And so right now here, I'm deeply grateful that you all have let me participate in your stories. That's deeply meaningful for me. Thank you for that. The theme of this conference is the brave and the brilliant.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I think that one way that we can experience or be brave is by accepting the fact that our personal achievements, what we're capable of, the things that we've done, pale, pale in comparison to the effect we have on other people and what that does in the world. And that as you go through the world with all of your brilliance, and I mean that in terms of light, as you go through the world lighting the world, when you interact with other people and you illuminate them and help them shine more brightly, that's how the world gets illuminated. That's how we bring up the lights. And the world obviously desperately needs that. And in return, what you get is meaning. Because when we're gone, all of the accomplishments will mean nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 The only thing that will be left of you when you're gone, and we all will be gone eventually, the only thing that will be left of you is the role you played in other people's stories, what you leave with other people, how that reverberates through time. And that is a beautiful thing, and I wish all of that for you. Thank you. Support for this show comes from Airbnb. If you know me, you know I love staying in Airbnbs when I travel. They make my family feel most at home when we're away from home. As we settled down at our Airbnb during a recent vacation to Palm Springs, I pictured my own home sitting empty. Wouldn't it be smart and better put to use welcoming a family like mine by hosting it on Airbnb?
Starting point is 00:15:41 It feels like the practical thing to do, and with the extra income, I could save up for renovations to make the space even more inviting for ourselves and for future guests. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host. That was Brian S. Lowerry speaking at TED 2024. If you're curious about TED's curation, find out more at TED.com slash curation guidelines. And that's it for today.
Starting point is 00:16:14 TED Talks Daily is part of the TED Audio Collective. This episode was produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Autumn Thompson, and Alejandra Salazar. It was mixed by Christopher Fazey-Bogan. Additional support from Emma Taubner and Daniela Balarezo. I'm Elise Hugh. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening. Looking for a fun challenge to share with your friends and family? TED now has games designed to keep your mind sharp while having fun. Visit TED.com slash games to explore the joy and wonder of TED games.

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