TED Talks Daily - How to make transportation quieter, cleaner and cheaper | Doreen Orishaba

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

When Doreen Orishaba helped build Africa’s first electric car in 2011, skeptics dismissed it as a “toy for the Western world.” Now she’s running dozens of electric buses across Kenya and Rwand...a, moving thousands of passengers to work every day on zero-exhaust vehicles powered by near-silent engines. She breaks down what it actually takes to scale clean transport — and why skipping the gas station pit stop is closer than you may think.Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. When Doreen Orishaba helped build Africa's first electric car in 2011, skeptics dismissed it as toys for the Western world. Now she's running dozens of electric buses across Kenya and Rwanda, moving tens of thousands of passengers to work every day. Buses are the lifeline in African cities, moving over 60% of the population every single day.
Starting point is 00:00:37 She breaks down what it actually takes to scale clean transport in Africa without subsidies and why skipping the diesel detour is closer than most people think. Africa has already proven that we are able to lead in the electric vehicle mobility. We do not have to follow the path of fossil fuel that we followed before. We can actually lead this. That's coming up right after a short break. And now our TED Talk of the day. When you sit in your car or any car,
Starting point is 00:01:19 do you ever wonder how many parts that car is made of? Do you also ever wonder, what does it really take to put all this together? Anyone? Now let me get to it. How many of you have ever built a car from scratch? Oh, great, good to see you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And I'm also honored to say that I have an electric one at that. Growing up as a follower of four boys, and me an early ticket to the fascinating world of speed and cars. There's something thrilling, something very powerful about the vehicles, the elegance of the design, the engineering, putting it all together. But what really excites me the most today
Starting point is 00:02:07 is the future of mobility, electric mobility. I was first introduced to the electric vehicle world during my time as a student at Macquarie University. Kiramotos of Uganda was a very first company on this continent to dream beyond fuel. In 2011, Kiramotos built Africa's very fast electric car. And this is at a time when the rest of Africa was not paying any attention whatsoever
Starting point is 00:02:41 to the electric vehicle space or even the urgency of addressing. the climate crisis. As privileged to join this team, and we moved on to produce Africa's very fast plug-in hybrid electric vehicle. And we also proceeded to build Africa's first solar electric bus prototype. As you can imagine, at that time, we're talking about more than 10 years ago, some people used to think maybe this electric vehicle stuff, these are...
Starting point is 00:03:14 These are toys for the Western world, but for us, we were driven by the vision that Africa should contribute to the future of electric mobility and not just be a consumer. Electric buses are now a very prime opportunity. Buses are the lifeline in African cities, moving over 60% of the population every single day. And public transport in most of the regions in Africa,
Starting point is 00:03:41 it's led by the private sector. So we have electric mobility startups that are driving really the vision of electric buses. This is happening here in Kenya, in Rwanda, in Nigeria. But at the end of the day, despite all these efforts, scaling electric mobility is facing huge challenges. Talk of range anxiety. The high upfront cost of electric vehicles. and limited charging infrastructure is really slowing down the adoption of electric mobility.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But these challenges are not new. They are the same hindrances that stop the electric vehicle from growing in that 1890s. However, the times are different. We cannot afford to wait. The planet is telling us that we need to act really soon. And we are proving that there is a way to overcome these challenges. I am Doreena Richever, the managing director,
Starting point is 00:04:43 of Bassego, Rwanda. At Bassego, we provide electric buses as a cost-effective alternative to the diesel bus. We started out here in Nairobi in 2022, and we've scaled now into Rwanda, with now a total fleet of 77 buses between both countries,
Starting point is 00:05:03 and every single day, we're enabling the commute of over 30,000 passengers between both countries. Thank you. We've built this, by overcoming some of these challenges. Number one, we are cheaper than diesel.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Electricity in both Kenya and Rwanda is locally generated from renewable, like hydro and wind. That not only makes electricity much cheaper, but also cleaner, because remember, the diesel is all imported here. So electricity is cheaper, it's cleaner, and it's more stable. We design for the local needs.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Have you ever wondered what kind of specification do we need for the bus to be deployed in any of these markets? We do not make assumptions. We pilot with a small fleet and then scale based on the local needs. We get in an optimise the battery capacities, the suspension systems, the drive systems, and make sure that at the end of the day, we are using the real-life route data in order to scale. I recall when we were doing the market survey in Rwanda, one of the top questions that we always received was, are you sure your electric bus will be able to handle Kigali's heels?
Starting point is 00:06:27 It's been 18 months now of our operation, and that question is now history. We equip our buses with high-talk motors for the steep inclines and regenerative braking for the descent to be able to harvest the energy back into the battery, And then this boosts the efficiency of our buses, as well as minimizing the brakeware. One thing that really excites me about our Nairobi fleet
Starting point is 00:06:56 is we are locally assembling these electric buses right here. These buses have been built with loss of love and passion. And, you know, local assembly not only helps reduce the cost, but we are enabling to build the critical local manufacturing capacity, on the planet while also creating jobs. At the end of the day, it's going to be about what can we all do together? How do we handle the range anxiety? We are building up charging infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Let me ask you, what's your dream car? Did you ever think about, oh, now that I'm buying the car, I also need to build a gas station for it, right? No one ever thinks about that. It should be not different for the electric vehicle. As busy-go, we go out and build the charging infrastructure. We have a dedicated charging infrastructure team that identifies and builds out the charging stations. We handle all the permitting, all the compliance requirements, so that our partners do not have
Starting point is 00:08:01 to do that. And we've built stations in strategically located places right near the bus routes. At our stations, we're able to recharge our buses in about one and a half to two hours, removing this entire burden from the operators. Think about service and maintenance. We take this burden away from the operator as well. You know, new technology can be intimidating, right? Especially when there's no local available capacity
Starting point is 00:08:30 to be able to support that. So as Basigo, we have set up service centers in both Kenya and Rwanda, fully equipped with trained staff, specialized tools, as well as Pats inventory, to minimize the downtime of these buses. However, our biggest innovation is in the financing of these buses. We provide the buses through Alis Mado that we call pay-as-you-drive,
Starting point is 00:08:59 taking away the need for the operators to invest heavily at the start. I've seen firsthand the transformation that electric mobility is bringing to Kenya and Rwanda, the smiles under awe of the passengers as they experience the bussigobus, a ride so quiet and yet so revolutionary. The relief of the operators being able to scale without being choked by the heavy bank loans. But I'll be honest and say, is it a smooth ride? Perhaps not. We're experiencing different challenges. Right from product iteration to the flooding that we recently faced here in Nairobi,
Starting point is 00:09:43 which is a direct threat to operation because of where our batteries are placed. But then it's a reminder of why we are doing this, climate change. And I'll be honest and say, at the end of the day, we wouldn't trade these experiences for anything else. It is what's bringing us together as a team. Given where we are,
Starting point is 00:10:07 Africa really has the potential to be able to lead in this electric mobility, movement across the globe. Think about here in East Africa. Our electricity is over 90% renewable. That means deploying an electric vehicle here has much greater impact than anywhere else in the world. One of our electric buses replacing a diesel bus enables the mitigation of up to 50 tons of CO2 every single year. That is five times more than what the Tesla. is able to mitigate in California.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And what is that speaking to? Africa has already proven that, you know, we are able to lead in the electric vehicle mobility. We do not have to follow the path of fossil fuel that we followed before. We don't have to catch up on the electric vehicle mobility movement. We can actually lead this. So far, we have proven that, you know, zero-carbon transport
Starting point is 00:11:15 is possible, it's viable here in Africa with the greatest environmental impact, with greater social impact, and with no government subsidy. Africa definitely has the potential to be able to lead in some of these other sectors that were previously stated to be out of the reach for us. I hope you'll be on board as we make this a reality. Asante. That was Doreen Orashaba at the TEDxia. Countdown Summit in Nairobi, Kenya in 2025.
Starting point is 00:12:02 If you're curious about Ted's curation, find out more at TED.com slash curation guidelines. And that's it for today. Ted Talks Daily is part of the TED Audio Collective. This talk was fact-checked by the TED Research Team and produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Lucy Little, and Tonicaa Sung Marnivong. This episode was mixed by Lucy Little. Additional support from Emma Tobner and Daniela Ballerazo. I'm Elise Hu. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening.

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