TED Talks Daily - I'll probably lose my job to AI. Here's why that's OK | Megan J. McArdle

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Artificial intelligence could cost many of us our careers — but that doesn’t mean we should stop its development, says journalist Megan J. McArdle. As she watches AI encroach on her own craft, she... shares a fresh take on the 19th-century Luddites, who tried to destroy machines that would upend their trade. Looking back, McArdle reframes today’s fears with a poignant question: If we halt progress to protect the present, what might we be stealing from the future?Want to help shape TED’s shows going forward? Fill out our survey!Learn more about TED Next at ted.com/futureyouFor the Idea Search application, go to ted.com/ideasearch Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hume. How do we celebrate progress and innovation while also acknowledging the fear of losing one's job to, say, AI? In this talk, journalist Megan J. McCardell explores this question, sharing her deep anxiety around AI threatening her career as a writer, while as a libertarian also wrestling with her belief in progress and the potential of new technologies. That's
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Starting point is 00:02:37 and or one or more of its member firms, each of which is a separate legal entity. each of which is a separate legal entity. Well, I gather I'm not the only one who spends a lot of time thinking about AI these days. And by think I mean panic. I'm not even worried about the doomsday scenarios because I have no way to assess those. I just think about what's going to happen to jobs,
Starting point is 00:03:05 because even if we solve the AI safety problem, it's still going to displace a lot of workers, maybe including me. Twenty years ago, I decided to take my very expensive MBA and use it to become a journalist. That decision did not have what we MBAs like to call a positive expected cash flow. When I was interviewing for a job at The Economist, one of the interviewers actually just asked me,
Starting point is 00:03:30 why are you doing this? I told him, I only have so much time on this planet, and I want to spend it doing something that matters. And also, by the way, something I really, really, really love to do. I got lucky and it worked out. Today, I'm a columnist at The Washington Post. But every day, AI seems to get better and better
Starting point is 00:03:50 at writing competent prose, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do if typing words in a row stops being a semi-profitable occupation. Now, I'm a libertarian columnist, which means I believe in progress and creative destruction. But here's something I also believe. The Luddites had a point. (*Laughter*)
Starting point is 00:04:14 Look, you don't normally hear libertarians praising Luddites, so let me explain. Today, Luddites are a broad-spectrum term for technophobes. But the real Luddites weren't your mom using a landline instead of a cell phone or sending you hallmark cards with little words underlined. They were skilled artisans who made handcrafted textiles in an era when everyone wore lovingly handcrafted textiles. Then mechanized mill owners started underpricing them
Starting point is 00:04:39 using some of the most cutting-edge technology of their day, like spinning jenneys that could spin thread at record speeds. So they decided to destroy the machines. Honestly, I have some sympathy. In fact, every time one of these companies issues a new model, I get more sympathetic. We libertarians like to talk about the glories of freedom and progress, and they are glorious.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But they are not free. Sometimes people get hurt, often lots of people. The printing press, democratized knowledge and also witch-burnings and wars of religion. The Industrial Revolution raised living standards and offset them with grim factory jobs, squalid urban living conditions and choking pollution. Now, modern governments can allay many of those costs,
Starting point is 00:05:32 but they can't give people back the life they had. And we have an obligation to count those costs. I mean, if only because no one was ever persuaded by being told, your fears are stupid. So here's why, even after a full accounting, I think we should be willing to bear those costs and let the future unfold. Because we're all the beneficiaries of previous decisions
Starting point is 00:05:57 to prioritize future growth over protecting the present. Very few people in this room have ever worried about how they were going to obtain food or shelter or heat, or how they were going to bury a child who died of diarrhea before its first birthday. Those worries are the normal condition of humanity. We escaped them only through massive chronological luck. That is a precious and totally unearned inheritance,
Starting point is 00:06:25 and I think we have an obligation to pay that forward and leave an even bigger legacy for our descendants. To do otherwise, it's a kind of theft. It's stealing from the future. Picture what it would have looked like if the Luddites actually had managed to halt progress in its tracks. Effectively, they'd have been reaching forward in time and taking almost everything we have in order to enrich themselves.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Now, obviously, that's not how they understood what they were doing. But it would have been true just the same. So picture that, really picture it. A spinner sells a few spools of thread, and suddenly you don't have a car. A weaver sells a hand-loom cloak, and oops! There go your refrigerator, your central heating and your college education. and suddenly you don't have a car. A weaver sells a handloom cloak, and oops! There go your refrigerator, your essential heating and your college education.
Starting point is 00:07:14 A whole suit of clothes and thousands of kids just die to preventable disease. So when you're tempted to halt the innovation that might compete for your job, you have to ask yourself, how much am I willing to steal from my grandkids? I mean, from everyone's grandkids. Now, I know some people yourself, how much am I willing to steal from my grandkids? I mean, from everyone's grandkids. Now, I know some people in the audience are probably thinking, but that's different.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We already have it really good. We've got airplanes and mRNA vaccines and HBO. But of course, a lot of people would have thought the same thing. They couldn't have imagined a future in which the average worker is literally leading a healthier and more comfortable life than 19th-century royalty. Others might be asking, quite reasonably, but what about global warming and endangered species? I mean, is progress really all that great?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Well, I'd ask you to remember your last trip to the dentist and then reimagine it without the Novacaine. Now I know the obvious retort. That's a libertarian canard. You can want modern medicine without wanting us to have burned all that coal. But my retort is that that doesn't work. The same industrial revolution that led to global warming
Starting point is 00:08:23 has also made us so rich that we could afford to divert millions of workers from agriculture and weaving into science and medicine. It's giving us the tools to fight ecological disaster. But we couldn't have predicted any of that from the outset. We kind of had to live the change in order to understand what it meant. Now, actually, it's worse than that, because it's often quite easy to picture the near-term downsides.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I mean, just read any article about AI. But the long-term upside is much harder to grasp, because progress is cumulative, and the longer it accumulates, the weirder it gets. So a final thought experiment. Imagine trying to explain your life right now to a Luddite. Better yet, just imagine trying to explain the life of some ordinary British working-class stiff
Starting point is 00:09:18 whose great-great-great-something-great grandfather was out there smashing machines. And I'm not just talking about the ordinary stuff about daily living standards like indoor plumbing. I mean, indoor plumbing is extremely awesome, but imagine trying to explain mass post-secondary education, or the BBC, nursing homes or bachelorette weekends.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I mean, for that matter, weekends and standardized time. How about suburbs and pizza delivery? And a nation so rich that when a pandemic strikes, people can afford to wait that out at home while scientists, like, what is a scientist, says the Luddite, will scientists rush out a magic shot that helps keep people from dying. To a Luddite, that would have sounded like a fairy tale,
Starting point is 00:10:07 and he'd be right. We are living in fairyland, and indeed, we all have magic wands in our pockets. And I'm sure he'd have asked, but how could a spinning Jenny lead to all that? And it wasn't just a spinning Jenny. It was an unprecedented wave of innovation after innovation. Many of those innovations put people out of good jobs. But collectively, they also made it possible for us to be in this room together
Starting point is 00:10:29 or listening on the internet, rather than huddled by a smoky fire needing stockings to sell. The mill owners couldn't have imagined what was coming, any more than Henry Ford understood that he was helping to speed along the sexual revolution by creating mobile love buggies for teenagers. They were just trying to make a profit, but we're the ones who profited the most.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So to return to where we started, yes, I am scared of AI. I assume that the government is going to try to do something for displaced workers, maybe provide them job retraining. But like the Luddites, I'm a human being, working in a proud tradition. I don't want a government handout.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I want the career that I have spent more than 20 years building. And still, when I'm lying awake at night and wishing and maybe trying to figure out some way that I could stop this thing, or at least slow it down a little, I remind myself, I try to remind myself, of all the reasons I shouldn't want that, even if I could. I don't have any right to steal the future from our descendants, because I'm already living in someone else's future.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And it is literally better than they could have imagined. Thank you. Applause That was Megan Jay McCardell at TED 2025. If you're curious about TED's curation, find out more at TED.com slash curation guidelines. And that's it for today's show. Ted Talks Daily is part of the Ted Audio Collective.
Starting point is 00:12:11 This episode was produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Lucy Little, Alejandra Salazar, and Tonsika Sarmarnivon. It was mixed by Christopher Fazy-Bogan, additional support from Emma Tobner and Daniela Balarezzo. I'm Elise Huw. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening. This episode is sponsored by Sell Off Vacations. You know how sometimes a single experience,
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