TED Talks Daily - The art of reading minds | Oz Pearlman

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Have you ever wanted to read someone's mind? Mentalist Oz Pearlman is billed as one of the world's greatest mind readers ... and yet, he says he doesn't have any special powers. In this spectacular ta...lk meets psychic-inspired magic show, he demonstrates his skills on a live audience in the theater — and shows how anyone can learn the principles of mentalism.Interested in learning more about upcoming TED events? Follow these links:TEDNext: ted.com/futureyouTEDAI San Francisco: ted.com/ai-sf Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 into the audience. Over the next 15 minutes, he engages with multiple audience members he's never met before, wows everyone, and shows us how the principles of mentalism can be tools for living better and more connected lives at home, at work, and in our relationships. I am billed as the world's greatest mind reader, but guess what? I can't read minds. What I can do is read people. And people ask, a question all the time, which is, were you born with this? And the answer is, no, of course not, absolutely not. I do not possess any supernatural powers. I am not a psychic. This is a learnable skill that I feel anyone could do. But I've applied for about roughly three decades at reverse
Starting point is 00:03:44 engineering the human mind. If I know how you think, I know what you think. And I want to ask each and every one of you in this room a question. But before we do, take a deep breath in. Take a deep breath in. Exhale out and close your eyes. A little Zen mode. Okay? I see the people with trust issues, eyes wide open, holding their wallets and phones. Fellow New Yorkers. Here is my question. If you could have dinner, hypothetical, with someone famous, right? Some of you heard this question already. I didn't invent it. I love asking people. Someone famous, dead or alive, past or present, man, woman, whatever. I like to ask people, who would that person be for you?
Starting point is 00:04:25 It's fascinating. Everyone's different. And if you've already done it, open your eyes. Some of you have done it. Some of you are quick. I see nods. I see people that are decisive. If you haven't, you always need a deadline for creativity.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Three, two, one, crunch time. Open your eyes. Everyone out there, give me a big clap over your head. If you can see your person in your mind's eye. Give me a big clap. One more big clap. Notice the technique. Elbows locked on this man.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Michael Phelps would have been jealous of that streamline. Stand up, please. Stand up, please. Introduce yourself. Sorry, I'm Ian. Ian, question for you. Before you walked in this room and sat down, did you have any of you who I was or what I was going to do? No, actually, sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Okay, that's cool. Nobody reads the agenda. Totally fine. Totally fine. Give me another clap. Give me another clap. I like that. Right here, you not only clap,
Starting point is 00:05:17 but threw in a little belly dance, I reward extra credits. She's hiding her. her name tag. She's like, I'm giving the mentalist nothing. Tell us, what is your name? Oh, hi, I'm Nanjira. Nanjira? Right. Stand up, please. Did I say that correctly? Nangira? Wonderful, wonderful. Give me another clap. Give me another clap. One more clap. This man and I just locked eyes. When we made eye contact, he closed his eyes tightly.
Starting point is 00:05:45 As if activating a camouflage shield where if he doesn't see me, would I still see him? I still see you, Jeff Johnson. Stand up. Please give all three helpers a round of applause. Notice the question and the way it was phrased. Dead or alive.
Starting point is 00:06:04 50-50. Like flipping a coin. All three of you, please, I don't read minds. I'm telling you the truth. I read people. Try not to react. If the person you thought of is alive,
Starting point is 00:06:15 then their heart is beating in their chest, the room is getting warm, like the blood flowing through their veins. They're happy. They're smiling. Warming up, warming up. Cold. You feel a shiver down your neck. Clear cut. 100%. Jeff Johnson, your person is alive and well. Am I right? You're right. The boisterous smile, the effervescence. 100%. Versus Ian, dead guy vibes written
Starting point is 00:06:35 all over this guy. Is it a dead guy? Yeah. Classic Ian. Classic. Ian, focus on this. Also, the lingering hands in pockets always indicator of another guy. Guy to guy interaction. Is it a guy? Of course it is. If it's a female, hands in front of the crotch. I don't know why. A few of you are going to get home and you see your husband like this, and you're like, who is she?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Ian, think of his first name, think of his last name. First name, last name. Come back to me. The first name, try to count the letters. This doesn't make sense. Listen to me. This doesn't make sense. when I asked about the last name.
Starting point is 00:07:23 He tried to shield it, but I saw it. Why was he confused? Then I asked the first name, count the letters. It was too long. Sit down if it's Alexander the Great. What? Hey, y'all, Elise here. Jumping in to say that Ian did, in fact, sit down at this moment
Starting point is 00:07:37 looking absolutely flabbergasted, meaning he was thinking of Alexander the Great. I'm as shocked as you are, honestly. You don't have to hold the applause inside, Ted. You can let it out. Now, you've seen a taste of what I do, and this is used primarily for the purpose of entertainment, but what I'd like to show you now
Starting point is 00:08:03 is how you could apply the principles of my craft, which is known as mentalism, to your everyday lives, at home, at work, in your relationships. How would guessing a celebrity out of a stranger's mind help you? Well, frankly, it really can't. But I have a situation, a scenario, well, knowing someone's name would be incredibly valuable.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Let me paint a portrait. You're at a party. You're at a work event. You've walked up to somebody new. You've looked them in the eye. You've shaken their hands. You've introduced yourselves to each other. And right at that moment,
Starting point is 00:08:35 you realize that you have completely forgotten the person's name who just told it to you one second ago. Raise your hand if you can share this experience. You raise your hand too, you liar. She's like, not me, not me. I want to give you a superpower from this day forward where you will never, ever, forget the name of someone you just met, ever. And how am I going to do this using? Can you guess?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Shampoo. Didn't see that one coming, did you? The back of every bottle of shampoo is a master class in brilliant marketing. Three words in the instructions. Lather, rinse, repeat. Right? Lather makes your hair smell good. Rinse makes it clean. Repeat. We got to sell some product.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I want to repurpose that catchphrase that each and every one of you will remember and take with you for the rest of your days. Listen, repeat, reply. Say it with me. Listen, repeat, reply. Listen, sounds like the most obvious thing. Well, of course, listen to the name. But that's where most of you falter. At the moment the person tells you the name, you are actually not listening. You are thinking about what you're going to say back. Do I know this person? Or what am I going to say next? Or am I hungry or a million other thoughts that pop into your head. It's not a memory issue. You didn't. forget the name, you never knew it. Imagine I give you a twig, and I tell you, write my name in the sand at the beach, and you try with the twig first wave, washes it away. But if I give you a thick branch, you carve it in, you repeat those letters, it's going to take a whole lot of waves until there's no trace. So here's what each of you is going to do. I challenge you, when you meet the next person, make your mind a blank for all of two seconds. When they say their name, truly listen, and now repeat. everybody say it with me repeat we are going to say their name twice back to them right
Starting point is 00:10:24 ashley is that right great to meet you ashley this serves two purposes one it's kind of repetitively ingrained it in our memory second you know how to pronounce it correctly nangira am i saying that right nangira see there was a reason i did that third third reply listen repeat reply reply is where we fully cement the name in here is how we do that i'll give you three examples first one, a compliment. Everyone loves a good compliment, right? Ashley, those earrings, I love those earrings, Ashley. Now she's Ashley with the earrings, a visual indicator. Next up, spelling. Do you spell that Ashley with an E-I-G-H or with an E-Y? E-Y, of course, that's the right spelling, Ashley. I knew, I knew. Or, third, a personal connection.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Ashley, that's so funny. My cousin's married to an Ashley. Is my cousin really married to and Ashley? Absolutely not. I'm a total liar. but none of you will forget the name Ashley and neither will I and neither will we forget Nanjira after I said her name multiple Nanjira I think again rouging of the cheeks little sweat your person is alive also am I correct
Starting point is 00:11:33 now what I do in my profession is I take things that appear to have limitless possibilities and break them down people that are famous there are several kind of categories I'm going to say them quickly. You don't have to nod, but we had a conqueror. Let's call it a historical figure. We have singers, movie stars. We have athletes, comedians, politicians already registered a hit.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Too funny. Too funny you did this. All right. Shouldn't have smiled. Tighten it up, Njira. Three days ago, I did a show in Dallas, Texas. Dallas, Texas. And the last person. person standing thought of a singer. It's always singers where this happens.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I got his singer correct, and he didn't sit down. And do you know what he said to me? I go, sir, you know, why isn't he sing down? He goes, oh, yeah, what song am I thinking of? I'm like, buddy, this is not Netflix. Around this time, someone from offstage hands owes a small whiteboard and a marker. He turns to Injira, and as he talks to her,
Starting point is 00:12:43 he writes down a name but doesn't reveal. feel it to the audience just yet. Always singers. Tell us all. Who in your mind is sitting across from you, having dinner? You're on the edge of your seat. Tell us all. What's their name?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan. I couldn't hear you. Bob Dylan. Can I ask you a question? I always like this. Everyone listen to me. I call this the grass is greener approach.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I can always see it when someone eyes shift. She goes, I like Bob Dylan. but I actually had someone else in my mind. You thought of someone else. It's in the back of your head, but you just shifted. Can you tell me I can... Folks, this is not my first rodeo.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Okay, folks, the camera swings back to Angira who is bouncing up and down as she stands talking to O's, and he's right. She wasn't actually thinking of Bob Dylan. Who is the first person you thought of? Phyllis. Trevor Noah. Oof, it's not a singer.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Don't ever doubt me again, Ted. Don't you ever doubt me again. It's true. The whiteboard turns to face us, and O's had in fact written down Trevor Noah on the small whiteboard, and Jira is truly shocked. Jeff, do you know what the most common question I get
Starting point is 00:14:11 at the end of a show is? O's turns back to the man in the audience, audience named Jeff, who he had spoken with earlier, a staff person hands him a small blank whiteboard and a marker. I get the question, other than, of course, how do you do it? Is, aren't you afraid of getting it wrong? That's what I get asked, because people understand that there is risk involved in what I do. This is not sleight-of-hand card tricks that work every time.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And so the answer is, yeah, of course. Of course I am. You know what? Because what's fascinating to me is people can feel the element of risk. And I think the number one factor in success, on stage in every facet of my life is an unshakable belief that it will work. It's self-fulfilling.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And in this case, it's not a belief that I'm going to guess your person. Been there, done that. I don't plateau, Jeff. I peek. So I am not going to read your mind. I want to empower someone in this room to do it instead.
Starting point is 00:15:07 This frisbee... At this point, O's is back on stage and he whips out a bright green collapsible frisbee... was purchased on Amazon Prime, free two-day shipping, 87 cents. It has a 1.5-star review. This is literally the worst frisbee in the world. Please, sir, grab that. Tell me your first name?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Dylan. That's correct. Stand up, Dylan. The frisbee is made out of mesh, everybody, which means if it hits you in the face, it will not hurt, but it will hurt your pride if this goes viral on TED Talks later. Everyone hands up in defensive posture. Dylan, close your eyes, so you can't even try to aim this piece of junk.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Throw it. Catch. Someone catch. Someone catch. Give it a throw. As you can imagine, Dylan throws it far up into the seats. Stay right. Please go.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Oh, my God, is that far. Please stand up. What is your name? Do you say, Brett? Yeah, Brett. Brett. Have you ever met or spoken a word to Jeff Johnson before? I actually haven't.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Okay. Maybe more networking at the next breakout session. Please, Brett, come on up. Give him a huge applause. Make your way up, Brett. Two T's. I like the way you roll, Brett. Not going to forget that name, are you now?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Pleasure to meet you, sir. Brett, I'm bringing you front and center. All right. Here's what you're going to do. I'm going to ask you in a moment. Have you ever spoken to me a word in your life? I haven't. He seemed happy about that.
Starting point is 00:16:39 That was weird. I'm going to ask him in a moment. to close his eyes. You need to believe it in order to achieve it. When you close your eyes, I am going to ask Jeff to uncap a marker and you're going to write the person. Now, very important, Jeff, you thought of one person.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Is that correct? That's right. Okay, because, you know, Nanzira is like having dinner. She is like, load it up. Let's get a six top. Brett, close your eyes. His eyes are closed. Brett, keep your eyes closed.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Jeff, open up your marker, please. as big as you can, so we can't see it right down the first and last name of the person you are imagining sitting down to dinner with. Brett, open your eyes. You have to believe it in order to achieve it. Look, not into his eyes. Look into his soul.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And when I snap my fingers, tell him, who is he having dinner with? Barack Obama. Turn it around! Show everybody. Show everybody. Well, you guessed it, folks. Jeff had indeed written down.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Thank you, Brett. Barack Obama. I am O'S Perlman. Thank you very much, everybody. That was O'S Perlman leaving us all speechless, said Ted 2025. And if you can, I would definitely recommend checking out the video of this talk over at TED.com. If you're curious about Ted's curation, find out more at TED.com slash curation guidelines. And that's it for today.
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