TED Talks Daily - The inside story of Notre-Dame’s incredible reconstruction | Philippe Villeneuve

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

In a moment that stunned the world in 2019, the famed Notre-Dame in Paris went up in flames, threatening the future of the centuries-old Gothic treasure. Philippe Villeneuve, the chief architect of th...e cathedral’s restoration, recounts the collective effort to bring the building back to life while honoring its history. Listen for a story of craftsmanship, devotion and innovation — and learn how more than 2,000 hands worked to return this landmark to the world.Want to help shape TED’s shows going forward? Fill out our survey!Learn more about TED Next at ted.com/futureyouFor the Idea Search application, go to ted.com/ideasearch Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hugh. In a moment that stunned the world in 2019, the famed Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris went up in flames. In this talk, Philippe Villeneuve, the chief architect of Notre Dame's reconstruction, says that reviving the historic cathedral has been more than a rebuild.
Starting point is 00:00:31 It's a blueprint for future restoration efforts. Drawing on time-honored techniques, Philippe shares how a team of craftspeople and experts came together to bring new life to this Gothic masterpiece and what it took to help Notre Dame be reborn from the ashes. What's better than a well marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well marbled ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 Back in time. The date is April 15, 2019. That was six years ago. We are a few days before Easter. On a late spring afternoon, we are in Paris on Île de la Cité. Notre-Dame Cathedral has been there for over eight centuries. The day is winding down, and people are heading home from work.
Starting point is 00:03:05 The smoke is winding down, and people are heading home from work. Nobody notices the smoke arising from the spire of the cathedral. The time is around 6 and 13 p.m. Now the smoke becomes more noticeable, and people look up in disbelief. They watch the flames burning through the melting lead roof. Night is falling and the flames illuminate the cathedral. Now the huge plume of smoke fills the streets. There is an acrid smell in the air. Some people start spraying, others start chanting. Firefighters are now fighting a relentless battle. And then, the spire collapses into an inferno,
Starting point is 00:04:00 with a terrible crash. with a terrible crash. President Macron rushed on the seat. He changed his agenda for this momentous event. Notre-Dame was more important than politics. Not knowing the full extent of the damage, President Macron decided that the cathedral would be rebuilt in five years. Hmm. LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:04:34 Donations came in from all sides, ranging from small to huge amounts. They reached the incredible total of 846 million euros. Why? So much generosity. Well, ever since Victor Hugo published his novel Notre Dame de Paris in 1831, the cathedral has moved the entire world. That was almost 200 years ago. In 1931, the cathedral was moved to the earthy world.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That was almost 200 years ago. Then the cathedral went from print to screen to stage. The silent film Esmeralda came out in 1905, followed by many more famous films. Disney made a cartoon character, Casimodo. Musicals were made about Notre Dame. Today, Notre Dame appears in many games and shows. People in every country are touched by Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Incredibly, we may never have known Notre Dame. Since it was built in 1163, it has been the cathedral of freckles. It has the highest vaults ever built, gigantic rose windows, and a huge flying buttress. When completed, it was the tallest building in the Christian world. But after being a showcase of human genius, Notre Dame fell out of power. It fell out of fashion, cost too much, was vandalized by the French Revolution, and became the Temple of Risen.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Napoleon was crowned a prayer there in 1804, but the building was in a very bad shape. Then the cathedral was considered for demolition. This is when Victor Hugo published his novel Notre Dame de Paris. It put the cathedral at the heart of France. It put its architecture at the heart of its culture. So it was decided that the building would be restored.
Starting point is 00:07:02 The architect Violet Leduc, my father, won the competition to restore the Notre Dame. He turned it into the building we know today. His oeuvre totale, full-scale work, was to create the ideal cathedral imagined by the 19th century. Notre Dame continued its course. It came out intact of World War I and World War II. It had funerals for presidents and national tributes. There was a ceremony after the daily terrorist attacks
Starting point is 00:07:41 of 2015. Then came the fateful day, April 15, 2019. The following day, I entered the cathedral in ruins. The light was harsh. The stone was a dark brown. Water was streaming down from the vaults. The floor was covered with burnt wood. The chairs were scattered by the collapsing vaults.
Starting point is 00:08:11 The altar was crushed. But the large golden cross was in the background. The statue of Virgin of the Pillar, Notre Dame de Paris, seemed untouched. Through a hole in the vault, molten lead had flowed into the end of the crest of the Pieta. That evening, I found the rooster
Starting point is 00:08:39 that had crashed on the section of the roof. It escaped destruction. It had miraculously come off its axis when the spire collapsed. At that moment, I felt a determination that removed all doubt. It gave me a power and strength I didn't know I had. I always loved Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I visited for the first time at the age of seven. I loved the symphony of stone and the harmony of light. For me, architecture and music became one that day. When I was 16, I saw an exhibition of the architect, Viole Leduc. From that day, I wanted to become chief architect of historical monument society. And why not?
Starting point is 00:09:42 One day, become the architect of Notre Dame. The dream came true in 2030, but six years later, in 2019, it became a nightmare. On that evening, on April 5th, I made up my mind to fight for Notre Dame. First secure the seat, then supervise the reconstruction with a team of architects. The entire world was watching us.
Starting point is 00:10:17 All were anxious to see the cathedral restored. We could not fail in the project of the century, Le Chantier du Siècle. There was a spirit in the air, L'Esprit Notre-Dame. It was a unique mix of focus and joy, companionship and sharing. We were all working to save the cathedral,
Starting point is 00:10:44 and we were proud to be part of this fantastic journey. I get admiration and respect from these specialized tradespeople. This created a bond that united all. Two thousand people were buying themselves on this seat. The and rope access technicians worked together well. The garbals, pillar and hide bay had to be shorted up quickly. We had to prep up the 28 flying buttresses and cover the vaults with tarps. We had to put nets in the nave, and the hide vaults had to be shorted up, too. Wels had to be shot up too.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We had to shot through the rubble. A cathedral made of steel was built inside the stone cathedral. The building was torn in scaffolding. The most dangerous part was dismantling the melted scaffolding in the truncet. The scaffolding was dismantling the melted scaffolding in the transept. The scaffolding was there for restoration work before the fire. The scaffolder and the rope technicians made their way through the twisted metal.
Starting point is 00:12:25 They had to dismantle the steel monster that could collapse. After days and nights of hard and dangerous work, they succeeded. Once the cathedral was stabilized, the work to rebuild it could finally start. The Jogunese men followed in the footsteps of the builders of the Middle Ages. They had the same spirit, the same dexterity and the same materials. The stained glass windows and the decorations become lively again. The walls and the vaults start to show the clear golden hue of the stone again. Then an army of carpenters worked on the new framework.
Starting point is 00:13:11 They used the same materials, the same tools and the same gestures of old. The spire was erect again, and a new golden rooster was placed on top of it to protect the cathedral. The inside of the cathedral was like it had been under a violil duke, bright and a soft yellow. The stained-glass windows and the chapel were vivid again,
Starting point is 00:13:43 the chandeliers were shining again. The sculpture had tried to place again. We had to drive a COVID pandemic, deal with pollution by lead, face bad weather, including heat waves, working under very trying conditions. Why, with all of this, the tradespeople, juniors and architects worked with patience and expertise. Within the five years deadline,
Starting point is 00:14:16 they gave Notre Dame back to Paris, to France and to the world. Merci beaucoup. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:14:43 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. and that's it for today's show. TED Talks Daily is part of the TED Audio Collective. This episode was produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Lucy Little, Alejandra Salazar, and Tonsika Sarmarnivon. It was mixed by Christopher Faisy-Bogan, additional support from Emma Taubner and Daniela Balarezo.
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