TED Talks Daily - The magical, mesmerizing migration of monarch butterflies | Jaime Rojo (re-release)

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

When monarch butterflies migrate, they produce one of the most iconic wildlife spectacles in the world — and provide us with an important indicator of ecological health, says photographer Jaime Rojo. Telling a story about our relationship to the natural world, he shares his experience photographing these mesmerizing insects deep in their remote mountain habitats in Mexico, diving into the latest research into the mysteries of their multi-thousand-mile journey and sharing how each of us can join the growing movement to protect them.This episode originally aired on October 2024.Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hume. Every year around this time, something really special happens. Millions of monarch butterflies migrate over thousands of miles north to breed and return to the warmth in the northern hemisphere. And when they travel, they produce one of the most iconic wildlife spectacles in the world, all while providing us with an important indicator of ecological help. I know for sure that if there is one iconic species in North America, this is the monarch. We are living in very polarized times, and the story of the monarchs can inspire hope again,

can bring unity across our borders. We need that. That was photographer Jaime Rojo from his 2024 talk, which we are resharing today in honor of the monarchs on their journey. He shares his experience photographing these mesmerizing insects. deep in their remote mountain habitats in Mexico, dives into the latest research into the mysteries of this migration, and shares how each of us can join the growing movement to protect them. So I have to ask you that don't let this beautiful illusion of plenty fool you because the monarch are in serious trouble.

But there's also good news. There's many people trying to protect them. That's coming up right after a short break. And now our TED Talk of the Day. Few insects have captured our imagination like the monarch butterfly. Their migration is one of the most iconic wildlife spectacles in North America, but they are also one of the best environmental indicators we have of the health of our ecosystems. And they have been in decline for the last 40 years.

So they might be telling us a bigger story, a story about our relationship with the natural world. Every year, these amazing insects undertake one of the most extraordinary journeys on this planet. It takes from three to five generations of monarchs to complete the whole migration. And it starts in Mexico, in the spring, when the monarchs that spend the winter there travel back north to later eggs. So the first and second generation of monarchs are born and remain in the USA, and they live up to six weeks, more or less.

But most migratory monarchs belong to the third and fourth generation. And they emerge in the late summer, early fall, when the days start to get shorter, and it's cooler, and they feel it, and they undergo a hormonal change in their bodies called the diapause. And this puts their mating instinct on hold, and they live longer then. This supergeneration will live up to nine months,

and they will complete the trip to Mexico, 3,000 miles, to a place where they have never been before. Because remember, they are the great-granddaughters of the butterflies that left in the spring. How they do it, how they find the exact same location remains a mystery. Especially if we consider that the sanctuaries, the forests they are looking for are located only on 12 isolated mountaintops in central Mexico. And these are the perfect conditions for the most.

It is cool and moist in high elevations, but for years, scientists have been trying to answer the same question. How do they exactly find their way? There are many hypotheses. Some say it has to do with geomagnetism. There are evidences that they use visual cues from the landscape, you know, the ridges of the mountains.

There's even theories about the odor of the pheromones of previous butterflies that were there the year before. But the truth is that we're the years before. But the truth is that we are the world. We don't know exactly, and they are continually actively researching this topic. Physiologists, Christine Merlin, discovered that the monarchs use their antenna as part of a very sophisticated solar compass. And researchers from the University of Iowa are using this radio tracker to monitor the

short-range movement of the monarchs when they feed. But this thing, as you can imagine, is very cumbersome. You cannot track the long-distance migration of a monarch with this. until recently. A team from University of Michigan is developing what promises to be a breakthrough technology. An ultra-light sensor that combined with an algorithm will, for the first time, be able to track the single path of one monarch

when they make it to Mexico, which is very exciting. But often, for these complex problems, the best and most efficient solutions are the simplest ones. We have been tagging monarchs for 30 years. We use these stickers that are very light, and they contain coded information and information about their origin,

and this is how we discover where the monarchs were spending the winter in the 70s. And today, it continues to be one of the most popular environmental educations in North America, with volunteers having tagged more than two million butterflies in 30 years. Now, all these challenges that we face to track the monarchs are nothing if we compare them to what the monarchs themselves, have to face throughout their long journey, especially starting in the prairies of North America,

or at least what is left of them, because every year we are losing one million acres of prairie, being transformed into land developments and agricultural fields. And in the 90s, this problem got worse because the widespread use of herbicides combined with genetically modified crops created a new problem. They basically wiped out.

the native grasses from the fields, including the milkweed. And the milkweed is the host plant of the monarchs. That means they need it to lay their eggs and to feed their hungry caterpillars. Without milkweed, the monarch population started to collapse. Now, our monarchs will continue their journey south, and they will have to face new threats, like roadkill that kills 3% of monarchs every year,

or even light pollution from big cities that confuses them. it alters their patterns of sleep. But they will endure and eventually will reach Mexico. Aha, last surprise, deforestation. The forestation makes them more vulnerable to climate change. And as many of you know, climate change has many phases. Droughts, heat waves, or even snowstorms, have become the major challenge for the monarchs in the short term.

So I have to ask you that don't let this beautiful, illusion of plenty, fool you, because the monarch are in serious trouble. But there's also good news. There's many people trying to protect them. Working with the local communities in Mexico has been essential to control the deforestation rates. Farmers are working with conservationists and they are using drones to analyze vast tracts of fields in search of milkweed.

Because the science is very clear. All the monarchs need is their habitat back, We can do that by planting milweed and by planting native grasses with flowers. That's why thousands of citizens along the migratory route are turning their backyards into habitat for the monarchs. Even small parks in big cities like Chicago can help because these are like gas stations, pit stops for the monarchs when they travel. And as you can imagine, farmers play an essential part.

These trips are called prairie strips and strategically located into areas of the field to attract pollinators, but they also protect the soil and conserve the water, so they benefit the farming. And all I can say is they work, because the only pair of mating monarchs that I was able to photograph during this story

was during a visit to one of these prairie strips in Iowa. It will be the offspring of these butterflies that in subsequent generations, will complete the cycle and make it back to Mexico. And here, they will be receiving high honors. For the Masawa people in Mexico, the monarchs are the souls of their ancestors,

and the day of the dead in November the first honors this tradition. And monarchs have become the undisputed pop icon of this celebration. Now, our monarchs now continue their life cycle in an alien world. Everything is different for them. They have never been here. tired, they huddled together, so the first days of the season, they are really vulnerable. I have spent the last 10 days doing the same thing in the mornings. They are getting so close to the branches I want.

For the first time, in many days. By many days, I mean 20 days, but I did get the shots that I needed. Thank you. Now, as new waves of monarch make it to Mexico, the branches soon fill up with clusters, and it is now when Dr. Green and his team will travel to Mexico and they will try to locate a signal from that sensor they installed earlier. They need just one, one signal

that can answer some of the questions that we have about the migration. There is an increase in the temperature as the season advanced and the monarchs start to get more active. They start to hang out in the local path, which is the stream that runs down the hill, and with that increase of activity, there's also an increase in the tourism. And the tourism is the economic engine

for this region during the winter months, and they all want to see this beautiful scene, the monarchs flying over the blue skies and an amazing sight. Sometimes it never happens. And sometimes it's okay, but one day, one day I got to witness something really extraordinary.

I have been to this reserve so many times, and I have never seen something like what we have encountered today. It's just amazing. You can see the sky is covered in butterflies. All I want to do is to photograph. And I see your faces. I know what you're thinking, that this was the easiest picture of my assignment.

It took me 20,000 frames to get this thing right, so it was not easy at all. So after all this time, I know for sure that if there is one iconic species in North America, this is the monarch. We are living in very polarized times, and the story of the monarchs can inspire hope again, can bring unity across our borders.

We need that. And most importantly, it can reconnect us again with the natural world. North America will be a much sadder place. This planet will be a much sadder place if we lose the monarch. There is a growing movement to protect them, but we need to act now. So muchissima gracias.

That was Jaime Rojo speaking at TED 2024. This talk was originally published in October of that year. If you're curious about Ted's curation, find out more at TED.com slash curation guidelines. And that's it for today. TED Talks Daily is part of the TED Audio Collective. This talk was fact-checked by the TED Research Team and produced and edited by

our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Lucy Little, and Tonica, Sung Marnivong. This episode was mixed by Christopher Faisi Bogan. Additional support from Emma Tobner and Daniela Balerazo. I'm Elise Hugh. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed.

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