TED Talks Daily - The power shift US politics needs | Anathea Chino
Episode Date: February 11, 2025As the cofounder of Advance Native Political Leadership, Anathea Chino creates space for Native American leaders to thrive in an often unwelcoming political system. Alongside comedian and filmmaker Ne...gin Farsad, she discusses the power of diverse identities in politics, how her organization prepares Indigenous people to lead politically and why even "an average white guy" should support their work. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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One thing we don't want to lose, no matter what political climate we're in, is the value
of different voices and diverse perspectives in our democracy.
In a 2024 conversation between Anathia Chino,
who is the co-founder of Advanced Native
Political Leadership, and comedian Nagin Farsad,
the two women discuss the value of Native voices
in our local, state, and federal systems,
and what it means to both honor our identities and lead our communities at the same time.
So you founded this organization. Tell us how you got here.
Sure. Guatsi, how about I'm Anathia. My pronouns are she her. I am from Acamo Pueblo, New Mexico. There are 19 Pueblos in New Mexico.
Ours is one. We are known as the oldest continuously inhabited community in the United States.
There are about 5,000 enrolled tribal members at my community and we've inhabited our lands
for over 2,000 years. I grew up between my indigenous homelands and College Station, Texas, where my mom was getting her PhD.
And I spent hours staring at the stars from the back of our hatchback, a little yellow Toyota Trussell named Banana.
It was a different time, not wearing a seatbelt in the back of the hatchback, staring at the stars,
going between New Mexico and Texas while my mom drove us home to ensure
that I was deeply connected to our cultural traditions.
And early on I learned that my indigenous identity was threatening to a lot of people.
Our existence is an act of resistance and just a reminder that we are not a nation of
immigrants is that we have thriving indigenous cultures
all across the United States.
And people are reminded when they meet me
the history of the United States
and when engaging with indigenous people.
It is empowering now, but when I was a kid,
it was othering and it was a reminder
that our education systems treat us as historical relics.
And we often don't get education about indigenous communities
or peoples after the 1800s.
But I discovered my purpose in 2004
during a presidential campaign,
mentioning that it's not all presidential campaigns.
And what I recognized was that there wasn't
the infrastructure in New Mexico.
And I organized the 10 southern't the infrastructure in New Mexico.
And I organized the ten southern pueblos in the state.
But what struck me was even in a state where we make up over 10% of the population, that
very little people knew about our communities, engaged with our communities, asked us what
mattered to our communities.
And nationally we make up about 3% of the population. And in places like Arizona,
New Mexico, Montana, we are a very powerful voice. So with organizations like ours, we're creating
space for Native leaders to thrive in systems that were not created for us. And to be clear,
the Native leaders are not representing only Native communities.
We are representing all communities.
And one aspect of that is voting for sure, but we're building space for Native visionary
leaders to be able to step into our power.
And there are a few things more incredible than watching somebody come into one of our
leadership training programs really timid and shy about how they got there. They had been nominated, they self-selected,
but once they are leaving our programs they are saying, I am going to be the
next governor of my state. And watching that transformation is something that is
just so incredible that I have the deep honor and our team has the deep honor of
being able to help Shepard. But engaging in systems of democracy is acceptable, accessible to everyone and
we're building pathways. It's not perfect by any means but it's progress and my
encouragement to everybody here is to be what you're fighting for. I am fighting
for our existence of indigenous peoples to continue. I'm also fighting for queer people.
I am proudly queer.
I am fighting for women.
I am fighting for joy.
And I am fighting for our ability to be able to dream.
So that's a little bit about my story.
It's really incredible to be here.
Yes, I love that.
And I love the purpose of this organization.
And I wonder, let's say you have to kind of make the case for why, and it makes sense
that anyone who's Native would buy in to the purpose of this organization.
But can you make the case for why, let's say, your average white guy would care about this organization?
Yeah, you know, I mean, I feel like research shows us
that people want a more reflective democracy.
An average white guy has a vested interest
in understanding the demographic shift of the country
and being able to be a part of that
shift and recognizing what it means to be able to have more voices and the value of
having different voices, different perspectives in our democracy benefits all consistently
over time, over decades, over generations.
And so we have many white allies in our community and a part of our organization that are working
side by side with native leaders, with leaders of color, with women, queer people, trans
people, beautiful, smart, qualified, capable, viable leaders.
And we are witnessing that shift of being able to see what systems power shift looks
like.
And it is important that they recognize
and that they are starting to recognize the value
and being participatory in that.
Yeah, I mean, as an Iranian American,
I've been fed basically like white stories my whole life.
I feel like I totally get it.
And I could be a great leader to just white families
all over the place.
I mean, if I had to.
Run for office. If I had to. Right for office.
If I was asked, I could really hold it down.
Okay, and then, so here's, and just to,
I noticed something about the current race
in whatever side you're on,
Kamala does not really address her own race in the election.
She kind of famously deflects questions about it. really address her own race in the election.
She kind of famously deflects questions about it.
What do you think about that when you're talking to people who you're training to run for office?
It's a really good question.
When I started, actually in 2013, I left,
I was an investment advisor for an organization where my portfolio was
a little over $14 million and I had access to national organizations and leaders and
understanding the highest political net wealth funders in the country.
And when I left that organization, I went to cosmetology school and I started my own
political styling business
to help women of color run for office.
And the reason I did it, the world was different then,
this was about 2013, but the reason I did it
is because the message that we were getting
and what was attempted to be fed to us
was that we needed to assimilate in order to run.
And so what I wanted was to be able to remove aesthetics
as a barrier to running.
I'm so glad that the world is different now and we proudly see people wearing traditional regalia in the halls of Congress,
in the halls of like government systems all across the country.
So my answer to that is that like we are in also a shift and like taking back of our identities.
It is like we are in the middle of what that looks like for Indigenous women running for
office.
We are in part of our training program is helping them to identify what that story looks
like to be able to go to the doors of white neighbors and non-Native neighbors and find
a connection and to be able to tell them how you are going to work to make the communities
better and different and how you are going to fight for them and to be able to tell them how you are going to work to make the communities better and different
and how you are going to fight for them
and to be able to hold that indigenous identity
in that process.
That has been a long track of us being able to get there
and identify what it means to be able to hold
white supremacy in this model of like this shift
of like how we are moving outside of that
and how we are able to be representative
and how we are moving forward.
How that relates to Kamala's journey, I have no clue.
But how that, what that looks like for native leaders
and native women in particular,
is something that we are very proudly
and very visibly shifting every single day.
Thank you so much for sharing your civic story,
ladies and gentlemen, Anathia Chino.
Thank you, thank you Chino. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
That was Anathia Chino and Nagin Farsad at TED Next 2024.
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