TED Talks Daily - What I got wrong about changing the world | Malala Yousafzai

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Malala Yousafzai has spent her life advocating for girls' education — surviving an assassination attempt at 15, meeting with world leaders and then watching hard-won progress collapse when Afghanist...an fell to the Taliban in 2021. That moment of despair forced her to completely rethink what it means to create change, and what she discovered replaced her shattered optimism with something more powerful and more honest. Hear how to keep fighting for the future you want, even when hope feels lost.Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hugh. It was August 2021. I was in the hospital, recovering from one last surgery to repair the facial paralysis I suffered after the attack. I picked up my phone and saw the Taliban had taken control of Afghanistan. That's Malala Yusuf Zai. She's one of the most recognized beacons of her. hope in the world, the youngest Nobel laureate in history, a global advocate for education,
Starting point is 00:00:39 the girl who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban and kept on fighting. But when Afghanistan fell to the Taliban in 2021, hope collapsed. The mission she had dedicated her life to, a world where every girl could go to school, took a step backwards. My foundation had been hope and optimism. But then, in a single day, my belief in progress shattered. In this powerful talk, Malala shares a sight of herself that the world doesn't often see what it feels like when the person everyone looks to for hope has lost her own.
Starting point is 00:01:17 She shares how her theory of social change has evolved, what she's learned that's kept her going even in her darkest moments, and how we can keep building the future we want, even when hope feels lost. Because the Afghan girls are not giving up on learning, even if it means risking their lives. It is far from the education that they deserve, but it's a start. Malala's talk is coming up right after a short break. And now our TED Talk of the Day. When I was a child, I thought changing the world was simple.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I would tell the people in charge all of my problems, and they would fix them. I know how naive this sounds now. But at 9 or 10 years old, it made sense to me. I lived in a remote mountainous region of Pakistan. The prime minister was more than 100 miles away from me. In the capital city, he couldn't see the trash polluting our rivers or our broken school bus or hospitals without dated equipment. I was sure that our leaders could solve all of these problems
Starting point is 00:02:35 if only I could get their attention. At age 11, I faced the biggest, most devastating problem of my life. The Taliban took control of my town and decreed that girls could no longer go to school. I knew what life would be like for me without an education. Marriage in my teens, two or three children, by the time I was just 20, it meant I would have no choice, no control of my school. future. If I was ever going to get people's attention, this was the moment. I decided to become
Starting point is 00:03:16 an activist. I gave interviews at protests. I spoke on television. I wrote a blog for the BBC, and I appeared in a New York Times documentary. I did everything I could to reach to our leaders and ask for their help. Simply for the crime of speaking out. The time of speaking out, the time of Taliban tried to kill me, shooting me in the face at point-blank range. I was 15 years old. But with the help of many doctors and even more prayers, I survived. Millions of people heard my story.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Presidents and prime ministers all over the world wanted to meet me. I was finally in the rooms where decisions were made. And I could bring attention to girls like me who did not have the opportunity to be in school. And that's when I realized that changing the world wasn't as simple as pointing out the problems. You had to argue for every policy change
Starting point is 00:04:24 and budget increase, and you might have to get the support of as many people as possible, and you might have to advocate for months or even years to take one step forward. Eventually, I came to believe that change was slow but steady. Incremental, but thankfully, inevitable. My foundation had been hope and optimism. Faith, that people would do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Trust that when leaders said they cared about making our lives better, they meant it, even if it took longer than I wished. But then, in a single day, my belief in progress shattered. It was August 2021. I was in the hospital, recovering from one last surgery to repair the facial paralysis I suffered after the attack. I picked up my phone and saw the Taliban had taken control of Afghanistan. I was stunned, shattered, terrified, angry.
Starting point is 00:05:42 How could I continue to have faith that things would improve? How could anyone believe that leaders were committed to girls' education when they handed over an entire country to the men who pointed a gun at my head and pulled the trigger? From the recovery room, I called Afghan women, I knew. who were working around the country. They were frightened too. On TV, experts and politicians were saying that the Taliban had changed
Starting point is 00:06:16 that this new version of the Taliban wouldn't ban girls from school or oppress women. The Afghans I spoke with didn't believe it. And they were right. Today, in Afghanistan, girls are not allowed to attend school past sixth grade. It is a crime. Women who five years ago were doctors, politicians, engineers and artists
Starting point is 00:06:44 are not allowed to go to university or pursue a career. A woman speaking in public is a crime. But do you know what is not considered a crime? This year, in 2026, the Taliban decreed that it is legal for men to be. for men to beat their wives and daughters. The Taliban have imposed a system of segregation and domination, a gender apartheid on millions of women and guns. For years, I thought the purpose of my life was to serve girls.
Starting point is 00:07:26 After Afghanistan, the optimism I had as an 11-year-old activist was gone. but I couldn't walk away because I knew exactly what Afghan girls were going through. When I saw pictures of little girls standing outside the locked gates of their schools, I could not stop thinking about them. I know many of us feel overwhelmed and lost today. Like the obstacles are too big,
Starting point is 00:07:56 and there's little we can do to fix the problem. But there's a lot I have learned over the past and I want to share with you how to keep fighting for change when you have lost hope. First, you have to start with something. While I couldn't undo the catastrophe that had just happened in Afghanistan, I knew I had to get out of my hospital bed and find a way to help. I started by supporting underground schools because the Afghan girls are not giving up on learning,
Starting point is 00:08:30 even if it means risking their lives. Across the country today, they are listening to lessons on the radio, discreetly passing cassette tapes and books to each other and trying to keep studying in secret. It is far from the education that they deserve, but it's a start. The second thing I learned is the importance of working with others.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And that has led me to some unexpected places, like movie theaters and football fields. I have produced two films about Afghanistan, bread and roses and champions of the Golden Valley. Stories of Afghan men and women who are resisting the Taliban's oppression. And I have joined the campaign of Afghan women's national football team to push FIFA to allow them to compete in exile. The Taliban are erasing women from public life.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But I am here to do the opposite of what the Taliban want. That is why I am taking every opportunity to show Afghan women speaking, singing, kicking a ball, and standing up for their rights. Because the artists and athletes that I work with help connect the world to the women and girls who are living through this crisis, into the belief that every life carries equal worth. My final lesson. Stay ambitious.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I know it might sound foolish to be setting high goals when you are losing a battle, but the bigger the fight, the bolder you have to be. What is happening in Afghanistan is a wake-up call for all of us. Because the Taliban's cruelty against women and women, girls did not begin in 2021. They tried to silence me a decade earlier in Pakistan.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And before I was even born, they were stopping girls from school in parts of Afghanistan. Yet, we have no international laws against gender apartheid. No way to hold the perpetrators and their sympathizers accountable. That is why Afghan women are campaigning. to add these abuses to the UN's Crime Against Humanity Treaty. And I have joined this movement to ensure that we change things for women and girls everywhere. It is a big goal.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I know it may take many years to see the Taliban brought to justice. But I will keep fighting so that these crimes are not committed against another generation of girls anywhere in the world. When I think about the 11-year-old girl I once was, I want her to be proud of who I am today.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I want her to know that although changing the world is not as simple as she thought, I will not give up. Here is the truth. I don't have all the answers on how to change the world. And I don't believe anyone else does either. If I have learned anything, it is that progress is never guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:12:10 There isn't one speech or one story, one moment or one person that can bend the arc of history on their own. But if we start with something, work together and stay ambitious, hope stops being the thing we wait to feel and become something we create. Thank you. That was Malala Yusuf Sae at TED-20206. And that's it for today. Staley is part of the TED Audio Collective. This talk was fact-checked by the TED Research Team and produced and edited by our team,
Starting point is 00:12:58 Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Green, Lucy Little, and Tonica Sung Marnivong. Additional support from Emma Tobner and Daniela Ballerazzo. I'm Elise Hu. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening.

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