Tell Em Steve-Dave - #299: Walking Over Hot Coals To 300

Episode Date: August 5, 2016

TESD mulls getting into the self help business. Music: So Much For Pathos - The Words To Say

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Like be a little manly, stop bitching and crying and whining all the shit. What is the what is the Bible say about Stoolin? You know that would be that's the devil's fucking. The devil's playground back there. Tell them Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell them Steve Dave. Number 299. 299 wall, 299 q. An episode away from 300. How do you feel? How do you feel with this upcoming fucking magic? With the excitement in this room is palpable? Yeah, we've been around all day

for recording this between shooting for the yoga hosers thing and going to the yoga hosers thing. Ken help a nose like that kid was not here. He's at the premiere. Usually he's just like a like a yapping dog around to be on Talvesty day, but today he's found something bigger from So he's at a premiere. Yeah. He was there was a red carpet.

You were on the red carpet and he had he had the walk it he wanted to Take his stroll down to So today supposed to be an overkill always to be mm-hmm. It's not Maybe it is why you got something maybe maybe not only do I have an overkill wall But maybe I have some Something that not. No, I don't. I have an overkill wall. But maybe I have something that doesn't have to do with disappearing children. It has to do with...

Why is it self-interpreter that you have an overkill? I think I might have something overkill worthy. A cultish leader of sort. Is that overkill? I'd say so. Cultish. Some may say cult? Oh yeah, yeah, talk about this. I saw on Twitter

that you watched a documentary on Tony Robbins. The the life coach you know who he is. Yeah. Very well for the first I mean it's a two-hour documentary they didn't need to make it that long but for the first half of it it's a fascinating look at this guy and his business. I guess two three times a year he has a seven day seminar, six day seminar, and it's a 12-hour day every day. They made it appear like he's on stage for the entire 12 hours. I don't know how realistic that is. You know what I'm saying? For one man to speak for 12 straight hours. 12 straight hours, seven hours for seven, six days in a row. And you get...

You need to be on some drugs to do that, wouldn't you? I feel like he is somewhere in there on drugs. I don't know, they don't say it, but I mean, he's like bouncing on a trampoline just before it goes out to the audience and he gets that high energy and his music blast in and like the whole crowd is like going crazy and dancing and then he comes out and he just starts like going through the crowd he's got like one of those mics that you normally wear on and he's just

like you know and he's dispensing advice and stuff like that and I was struck by something is these people fucking worship this guy, it's crazy. Like you see the look in their eyes and they're like tears in their eyes. Can I ask a question that you watched it though? If these people who are worshiping him, they must have taken the course before, you wouldn't be that excited if you were just like,

well I'm at my wit's end here, I don't know what to do. Let me try this, I've heard about this guy. You know, there's a lot of those people in there. It's so why are you cheering that hard? If you don't know what to do. Let me try this. I've heard about this guy. You know, there's a lot of those people in there. So why are you cheering that hard if you don't know if you're not... He's whipping them into a frenzy. You're so unsure if this is going to work. You don't know. I didn't look like anybody was unsure that I was going to work.

Like, they were, they had all been handed cups of coolade before they came in. You know what I mean? They had to down that shit. And I was just struck by how first of all this guy is looking down on cool aid. No, we actually push a lot of our own cool aid until I'm see. Yeah, no, it's fine. I'm going to walk I'm going to attempt to walk a line here because I do feel that what he's doing. I don't want to say scam or con artist because I do really feel that these people feel it's $5,000 to attend this event Not a lot of money to change your life forever

That is I believe well then they cut to interviews in his house and this motherfucker I won't online he's worth like $480 million which I I support like I'm like go for it We're not pushing our cool-aid hard enough His house is like like on the beach in Florida. Like it's fucking unbelievable, it's like a mansion. And he's an ultra positive guy. He is charismatic as fuck, which I didn't think I would ever see in him, but when you see him,

lock eyes with people and tell them that they're a worthy person, they're a worthy person. They're a good person. They could overcome anything. Like, if you don't wanna change your life to fuck out of here, he curses a lot. Oh, he gets hostile. Hold shit, every other word.

I just paid five K, Tony. Why are you yelling at me? He fucking... Every other word out of this guy's mouth is a curse. Sometimes Tony, you need a pat on his ass. Not a kickin' no, not a kickin' butt. He breaks it down and then he builds you up and He lock it block it out and he

He he says he curses on purpose because like he says it breaks people's defensive Defensive, they don't expect you to to be their cursing So this guy's talent like this one guy's telling me tried to kill himself another guy was raised in a religious cult in Cuba I'm sorry Brazil one of these fucking down South countries and she was fucked since the age of six because that was this cult thing Like and she's crying and he's crying and the whole crowd is clapping and they're all hugging each other and bringing it in And I see it. I see what he's saying like I see why these people are there. But then if you break down his actual advice, I feel anyone of us can do it. It's common. We should do it. Yeah. I agree. We should start the Tellum Steve Dave life coach. Yeah, life like, yeah, it holds seminars. We did

start it with the Walt Flanagan life coach. Remember, we used to give advice. Yeah, we didn't make any money on the show. And we would only have to be on stage for three hours at a pop, since there's four, since there's three of us. When I four hours at a pop. So we each go. Yeah. Like, like I go first, I'm like, you should probably all hang

yourselves. I mean, look, look at what I do. And I still hate my life. So there's probably no hope for any of you. So then the weed out all the fucking losers right? Who are? No, for the losers we're going to make William money. Oh really? I need the returns. The returning losers. That's what I that's all I learned from this documentary is you need the losers to make money like at that game because they're Because they're so desperate that they're like anything. Anything to help. Anything.

And I'm saying his package is very shiny and bright. I get it. The woman who got raped, right? She was like crying in front of them. And his advice, when you tell me if he says anything out of the owner, he's like, you're a strong person, you got through it, and you're worthy of love. And who's gonna love this girl? Who's gonna love this girl? And the whole crowd gets up and starts clapping.

Oh, it's potential rapists. And he goes, he looks at her, he goes, I want you to pick three men, three men in this crowd right now, who can love you without wanting anything from you. And though she looks around, she's like him, him, and the guys come over and they hug her. And they're like, you're her uncle now. Like, I want you to call her once a month. I want you. I don't know if he has that power in the state of Florida. He's like, I want you to call, he basically handed the work off to people. He, this one, her uncle now, I'm going to be like, oh shit, I shouldn't raise my hand.

This one, the fucking guy, this one guy and this girl, she stands up and she's complaining about a boyfriend, right? He's basically like a pussy. Like, like, he sits right next door. So fucking Tony Robbins got some up and he's like, and he basically, this is actually you would love it. It's pretty funny. He dresses the guy down.

He's like, you're a sheet man. He's like, you're a sheet. Of course I am, Tony. I just paid five grand a year. Yeah. And listen to you. I don't know. You're a fan of a crowd of what?

About ten thousand? That's an example. That would be my uncle. How many times, how much you guys find out? Listen to you front of a crowd of what 10,000 That's an example how many times how much you guys fuck and he does at the f word yeah I'm telling you drops the app on even he didn't even say intercourse dude everyone Love he goes and she goes and she goes about twice a month and he looked at him disgusted like Like it's all on him. Yeah. He's like in many, then he tells the story. This was the, this was the, this was the, what's the name of his documentary? It's called, I am not your guru, Tony Robbins. This is the

boyfriend of the, the woman who had been raped. No, no, this is a lot of different story. And I'm sorry about that. I didn't make that clear. And then so, so like he gets a guy up and he tells him the story about a lion that was raised by sheep. He goes and you stand and they're going, BAAA, BAAA. He goes, but one day he goes, a lion's came along and ate the sheep and the lion that was raised by the sheep was cowering and the lion was like, what's wrong with you man? And they kept force feeding him the sheep, force feeding him the sheep. And then the guy roared and he goes, let me hear you roar. And he goes, the mic's the guy and the guy goes, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR weird but you you you could be a believer you feel if you were if you were to

be look at his eyes like Sven Gulley and should could you be under Tony Robin spell I think I don't think I could know because I sat there and was like this guy's fucking scam artist but plus I got tons of plus yeah but I do did see why people without judgment, like it was so he's so magnetic that I completely understand why people do. Like not even a way that could be like, look at these fucking losers like following this guy,

like I get it, I get why they're following them. And if you had that lost in life, like then fucking for sure, like you would be like, I'll give 5,000 ounce Tony Robbins to tell me I'm a lion and make me roaring for a fucking crowd. But. How do you implic be like, I'll give 5,000 hours Tony Robbins to tell me I'm a lion and make me roaring for a fucking crowd. But how do you implicate that though? How does that now? How do you implement those that roar into something that will change you or life in the real world? That is what my issue with him is. All the advice is surface level feel good in this room,

shit. And then when you leave leave like you're still a sheep like like it comes in and roars in your face that like later that day he's back dancing and directing traffic yeah it was crazy man it was like I I suggest you guys watch it at least the first hour you can almost not watch the second hours this just gets redundant redundant. But, but man, like, you show you liking it to a cult? I like it very much to a cult. Well, that's the whole basis of a cult rate is that you take people whose minds are malleable

and malleable and sort of shape them with your philosophy and get them to, I mean, how else does it could a cult put into words? 100% that that, Brian. And like, at the end, he's like, everybody with their eyes closed. And then he starts talking real low on the mic. You're a beautiful person, the university's yours.

And people are just crying, tears pouring down their face. And then like, he has like, helpers go through the crowd and grab people's head and start shaking their head. And like, that's it, that's it. And you're just, and I'm just like, helpers go through the crowd and grab people's head and start shaking their head and like, that's it. That's it. And you're just, and I'm just like, that's when I'm like, these people are fucking more on. It's like, this is crazy. You should have invested that $5,000 in something.

But if he helps people, he doesn't even have to help them. They just have to believe that he's helped them. Right. So any small way, if they believe it, then it's true. That's the reality. That was a question I wanted to post to you. So does that mean that he's not a con artist? Like he is actually doing what he's claiming to do.

Like does his target negate what he's doing? But the fact that he only seems to be going for these weird lost people Well, they're the only ones coming to him. They're coming to him. Yeah, they're coming to him and also If they walk away Feeling that their life is changed and they continue to feel that way Then you benefit doesn't really choose because he's not saying like, hey, you're going to be a fucking millionaire. You're going to, you're

going to own a fucking Mauserati. You're going to live in a mansion. Or is he saying he's, is he saying nothing is? He's saying he's going to give you that yes, he's saying he's going to give you the tools to break yourself down and build yourself up as an unstoppable force.

And like that girl, like I read back to her, he was like, all right, now I want you to go and do what I do for other people, inspire people, but do it better than me. He's like, go out there. He's like, and and help people like you, like I've helped you. And like suddenly like this, after the credits, they have like a thing. Now she's writing a book and like she's starting her own self-help seminars and shit like that. So she's like, fuck, I can get rich. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know what to make. It's really no training now. Well, he doesn't have any training. That's that's what I'm reading right here. He doesn't

have any of these like a high school dropout. Yeah. Do you want to know about him? Yeah, we'd like to know about him. He began his career promoting seminars for Jim Rohn. Later without any educational background in psychology, he began his own work as a self-help coach. He had nor linguistic programming and Eric Sonian hypnosis after training with some guy. In 83, he learned to fire walk and beginning

to incorporate that into his seminars. They didn't show me. His use of board breaking sky diving and later fire incorporate that into seminars. They didn't show anything. His use of board breaking skydiving and later fire walking into seminars is intended to help participants push through their fears. I mean, I've seen people do it, so I believe it's possible. Well, do you know how it's done though? Yeah, it has some to do with the top layer being cool, right? Yeah, and it's the coals underneath that are hot or something.

Right. So, you know, it's bullshit. You can mind our matter. You cannot. You can get burned. Oh, know, it's bullshit. You can mind or matter. You cannot. You can get burned. Oh, yeah, of course you can. But you could, can you, the question is, is not if you can get burned. The question is, can you, can you, can your mind keep your feet from fucking burning as

you step on hot colds? No. Okay. Okay. Can you defuse this? If you watch this, I was getting a little worried. You want to hear about some controversies? Yeah, definitely.

He responded to an FTC charge of misrepresentation of potential earnings to franchise investors. So I guess you could be a Tony Robbins franchisee. Also a financial seminar guru Wade Cook, he's pretty well known. Also, sued Robbins for copyright infringement and plagiarism, saying that he used proprietary terms in his seminars. So he had to pay damages for that. In 2001, he filed sued against the Vancouver Sun of alleging defamation in liable. That won he won.

Oh, somebody fucking called him an adulterous wife stealing hypocrite. Whoa. Yeah. Well, the Vancouver son called him that and he was awarded 20,000 advantages. He's very attractive. I guess that's not a surprise when you have $480 million. I think. Here you go. You want to hear somebody over a matter? You're buying steak with that money. Get in ground chuck. This was a little bit over a month ago. Dozens were burned in a required medical attention after attempting to walk on calls during a fire walking event in a Tony Robbins motivational seminar in Dallas. According to the website, the fire walk is intended to help people conquer their fear by walking

across hot calls. It's a symbolic experience that proves if you can make it through the fire, you can make it through anything. Well, I guess those guys can't make it through anything dozens That's that's alarming and that's where you have to question the The whole thing it's no fire walking in the tell them Steve Dave seminar Absolutely not tell them Steve Dave seminar for at least my when it might when I get my I go up there on stage Yeah, it's I love to see you do three hours on pizza.

I would pay $5,000 to see that by myself. I would love it. It'd be fucking amazing. Go ahead, tell the walkers through this. I would be like, first off, it's not about you. Everything's always a, you're new. That's the first thing. It's about the other people in your life.

It isn't about you. If you just stop and consider what other people need from you or want from you and take care of that and everything else just falls in the place. Well, with a caveat, not just anyone. I fucking miss. Our message is gonna be so convoluted. Three hours of that followed by three hours of this. I'll be the plant in the audience. You're not the only one that beat a plumber. Brian Johnson from the Newsly News. She's just...

Question, Mr. Flanagan. Newsly News. And there's nothing wrong with just being like a cog or a pl plumber or something something along the line. They want a better their lives Not fucking maintain the status quo It's always just about money No, this girl was just about like loving herself after getting raped A billion times how are you gonna do that? There was a girl called people cogs and expect them to walk away being like well that was money

Well, it's nothing wrong with it though He made this girl call up her boyfriend and break up with her on the speaker phone in front of the whole house. Yeah No, you're right and and let's face it most of us About yourself because you because you go to work every day and provide you should be you should be proud of yourself Yeah, I'm not are you in it. Yeah, I mean We're all cogs in one way or another don't. Because you don't have a mansion or you don't have a, or maybe your childhood was not as good as somebody else's, or so you think, because I'm sure everybody you talk to will have something that they can point to that makes them feel sad

about their childhood. Yeah. Just get on with it. Stop holding on to it everything I'd have to make them pay like a thousand dollars That balloon obviously I hold on to that balloon Now let that balloon go We'd be outside right and And when that balloon get when that balloon floats off. I'd like, that's all your worries. That's all your problems See that is basically what he does

Like he makes like a symbolic like that's basically it like to see as to me because that doesn't sound like a real-world solution But if he did that in the documentary, I wouldn't I wouldn't blink to it. It's right in line What he does it's right in and once what he does. It's right in line. And once that balloon floats away, you've got to promise yourself, you're not going to beat yourself up over bad decisions or decisions that were out of your hands. And just, just be a person that you are proud of. You sound just like, I don't know fucking kidding. This one girl was talking about like how her father didn't love her and all this shit

and he was addicted to drugs and he's like well blame them off fucker. Blame him. He goes but also blame him for the person you are. Blame him for how strong you are today. Blame your father. If you're gonna blame him for all the bad stuff, blame him for the good and let it go. Like shit like that. He's saying exactly what you fucking saying like forget about it

Your three hours yeah, I'm like what he got problems forget about Here problems I got taxes at the ass You know all the 5,000 that you're paying me I'm losing 25 hundred right off the top Uncle Sam's getting that one And then when I take my manager my agent travel all this other bullshit into account I'm down to a thousand dollars Find out for six days That's what the most like three important people are in your life and Then ask yourself. Yeah, are they proud of me? Are they proud of the decisions I make on a daily basis?

Well, I can talk to S2 you right now. If you think that if you and if you have any concerns that they might not be proud of how you are leading your life or the things that you're doing, that's what you would dress. That's a sign. That's a checklist. There's a sign right there that you're okay. Well, then let me change what I'm doing. And as soon as you become a source of pride for the three most people in your life, what else is there?

So meet others expectations. The most, not at any time, not every other person. I said three important people in your life. So people you respect, people you'd like like I'd want them to be proud of me You can read yes you will the three most important people in life. They should you should respect them I would think right and you should and you should be in love or love them unconditionally right but you also want to you also want to be proud of you at the end of the day when it's all said and done Well, what am I three what am I three is long as I keep her in lemonade and ravioli like she's proud of me.

Well, you know what? Yeah, and there's an instance though where you're going to find a so you're going to find your, it's a fun choice. You were, um, lemonade and rap, she loves it. I don't want to use a word recognition, but but i want you but you're going to get your respect and your um... you get from other people though because of the way that you have uh...

taken on you know that person you're you're showering and ravioli you're going to you're going to be a lot of see it people people recognize it and people will like and people acknowledge it. Look at that motherfucker. Showing that girl over. Show her your girlfriend. Honestly, she'd take a shower of you if I gave her the opportunity.

People know it and people and people are well aware of it and it's one of your most, it's one of the reasons it's one of the reasons, it's one of the big reasons that you do will get respect and- It prevents me from being the total monster. And people should be proud of one of the things they should point to, to be proud of knowing you because of how you have taken on that responsibility

to raise a child. All right, so I got that responsibility to raise a child. All right, so I got that. You got a lot. You got a lot, I always said that you hold on to stuff and you've held on to that balloon like it was fucking surgically fucking, stitched into your skin.

Yeah, some of it helps, I think, some not so much. I mean, the fact that I grew up hating myself so much and being so you hit that though. What's that you hit that from everybody. Yeah, I trick people. Like people have told me that they're like I would have thought you were the most confident person ever and like until they get to know me and then they're like oh my god. You're a mess. Even people who got to know you I don't that you didn't let that out, you didn't let that, you didn't let that side of your show

until, you know, to well-medical. Well, it was a combination, I've had a lot of years to think about this, we're brining. Here's a combination of self-loathing, also coupled with almost supreme arrogance about other people, so it's like a weird. It's like you can't say he's wrong Like most people are fucking idiots and assholes and he recognizes that So it's like he doesn't feel less than them then less than these people in fact Brian feels better than these people

But he also doesn't like himself. So it's a fucking odd dichotomy. If I'm at this awful, can you imagine what I think of you? But is that a narcissistic trait though? I don't know. Because most people... He thinks he's smarter than everybody else in it though. But he is smarter. I do think he's smarter than most people. But you could point to... I don't mean this in a bad way,

but you could point to decisions that he's made in his life that would make you think like, well, how can he still hold those beliefs? Oh, sure. Almost every decision he's made. Yeah, I agree. make you think like, well, how can he still hold those beliefs? Oh, sure. Almost every decision he's made. Yeah. Right. I mean, at a certain point, you got to go like, wait a second. That guy's an idiot.

But he's not. No, no, no. That guy, he's looking at somebody else. That other person out there, he's looking at. That guy's an idiot. But it looks like he's not in the same boat I am right now. Like, I'm in a boat that's like taking on water. He's not in a boat that's taking on water.

That sounds like a 20-row, it's kind of now, right? Yeah, that was it, you got it down. I can't wait until we do this. I can't wait. You might do all 12 hours. For a boat, it's taking on water like crazy, right? Oh, I'm on a phone with the Grammacy. And that boat has been taking on water for decades. And sometimes it looks like it's a phone with the Grammacy. That boat has been taken on water for decades.

And sometimes it looks like it's going down. But yet, he finds a fucking empty coffee pot. And he's able to just take enough water out of that boat to keep it afloat, just when it looks like it's going to go down forever. Those accused, he said recently, you have had more second chances than anyone I've ever met. Every time it looks like you're about to go down, something happens in your back.

Yeah, I don't think it's... I think there's something inside me that sell like sabotages. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I don't even mean it. I don't think it's just like a subconscious. I know I shouldn't do certain things, but I do them anyway. I don't think it's just like a subconscious, like I know I shouldn't do certain things, but I do them anyway. I don't know why. Well, I think everybody does that to a degree, but you really... But it's not... I mean, look, you're also, you know... Oh, you should... Successful.

I mean, you're not a failure. You should be so happy to even if you take everything away. You are raising a great kid. You are her everything. That's enough for a lot of people. That's enough to float people's boat and just be like and feel good about themselves. That's enough. The other stuff is just gravy.

Yeah. You know what Edgar said to me, it is in to put them down or anything. It's just him, but I told Walt this. I went to Pam and Edgar's for dinner a few weeks ago. And he was talking about how he was on the job with my brother, Darren, not like police officers on the job, but they do construction.

And I guess he had a shirt or something, Tom Steve Dave's shirt, and somebody like, oh, I love that podcast. Oh really? Yeah, and he was like, oh, that's my son. He admitted that he was Edgar, yeah. And they didn't believe him, but then they somehow they figured out Darren was my brother too. And as Edgar's telling the story, and he's playing it cool, he's just like,

ah, you know, I see him all the time, it's no big deal. It's like, you know, I work for Tommy Hillfiger, so it's not like he's the most famous person I know. And I'm just like, he's telling me this. You get to left that part out. And honestly, like, is Tommy Hillfiger, like, is that name better known than mine? Absolutely. Wouldn't most people know Tommy Hill figure

if they fucking stumbled across? I don't think so, right? No, but it also, like, that's not the measure of what your father should be judging your wife. It's how it should be. The recognition fact, yeah, that's a more poor yard stick. Do you, do you crave achievements that have to be big to take any kind of satisfaction? Or can you enjoy little achievements? Well, what's little? I'm trying to figure out your

scale. What's big? I don't think I've achieved anything big. Well, all right. What about, I mean, you can say that you, I mean, I would say that you're leading a successful podcast. Is it achievement that you can take some pride in? Six seasons of a telepathy. Oh, yeah. The podcast is big for me. It's my favorite thing, obviously. The TV show is cool, but it's not my favorite thing. And I know, I know a lot of people will be like, wow, you went on TV for six years. But you talk into a mic and better. What is the achievement that would make you happy, though, at this point? Is it going to come down to some sort of big paycheck that would come down to some

sort of artistic endeavor? No, I don't know. I don't think about being happy that much because I think it's at a reach. So I really don't think about like, what would it, what would like make me like a happy person? I think I got to change that thinking. Yeah. You're going to go to a Tony Robbins seminar. No, but I've been telling you for a few years now you've got to find that you should

go back to therapy. I just think that this is what I think your problem is. I think you're smart enough to know what the answers are already. Oh yeah, right. And you don't want to do it. So you don't want to go to therapy to have somebody tell you what those answers are and then have you not do it. Like why am I paying you?

I already know this shit. That's what I think. The smartest guy, I mean I say get him the smartest guy the room, but that was ingest. The smartest guy in the room many times is Brian Johnson. I agree with that. But he, what's his confounding is, he knows what the answers are, but he's, but for some reason, like you said, he's on, He doesn't want to take the necessary action. Is it fear? What if I change things and things get better? That is what I think you should go to that before.

That question is a big question that is just fucking no way to know because also in recent years like you've stopped opening up about certain things to me definitely. I don't know about to you. Like we used to talk fucking four days in a row for two hours of thing about our shitty fucking problems. We don't really do them anymore. And I think that you hit a point where you're like, I just don't want to talk about this anymore because I've talked about it so much. We've talked at the death and I don't want to, I don't want to put my friends in this situation where we're talking about it anymore. So, so I don't even know like for me personally, I don't, I don't even know where your headspace is at with it. You know? Yeah.

Do you still have problems that you could talk about for two hours because you seem legitimately more happy now than you have been in recent years? I am... Oh, we pivoted to me. I am the best... for me. Not talking about the outside world. I'm just talking about I am the... What do you mean like fucking...

No, just the state of the world? Just how I feel about myself. You know what I mean? I don't know how other people feel about me. But I feel I'm the best version of myself I've ever been. I'm legitimately happy. I am content. I am, I'm in a whole new universe.

I'm in a place that I actually never thought I would be. And I think it has something to do with age. Like I think I just got to a certain age where I was like, I think a lot of it has to do with just getting to a certain age and being like, all right, so this is what it is. Like this is, right. I mean, you only got so many years to figure it out. You better figure it out, because if you don't, you're gonna sit there and go like,

well, the fucking I wasted the best years. Or be content that I can't figure it out. Looking for something that was always there, I just fucking didn't see it. Yeah. I think that's it. And then I, getting sick, I mean, I know I beat this tremolato on the show, but it changed my life in ways that I can't even fucking fully express.

Like, like, when you think you're going to die for two months straight, like there's just a lot of things. Anytime something bothers me, I'm just like, my fucking brain's not exploding. I don't normally do that. I remember telling my shrink once she was talking about whatever fucking bullshit issue I had at the time. And she started talking about relative to that somebody else who had a worse problem. And I was like, look, just because somebody else said worse doesn't mean that I don't have it bad. I'm, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to hear that shit. And to put a fine point on it, I'm gonna fuck. Yeah, fuck them. Or whoever. But like two weeks ago we were sitting here, we were waiting to shoot and this family came in

from South Carolina and it was mom, a dad, a kid who was like, I don't know, maybe five and then a little girl who was two, she had on these weird glasses. And she said that, I mean, she was so happy for Lady to see me and I think Meg was here. We watch you guys all the time, we love you and I was like, oh, you just come up for vacation. She's like, oh no, we went up to Philadelphia because The girl I care remember a name, but she's like, you know, she she has eye cancer and that's the best Hospital for the whatever surgery she was gonna get and I'm looking at it. She's holding this little two-year-old That has eye cancer. I'm thinking two things one

Fuckin' no way. It has got exist. Like fuck off. I mean come on things. One, fucking no way, just got exist. Like fuck off. I mean, come on, man, how could you give a little kid eye cancer? And two, like, whatever was bugging me at that moment, I know it was my car wouldn't start. I was annoyed and had to ride my motorcycle and because it was like I thought it might rain. You're free motorcycle. Yeah. The same. The same. Yeah. And I felt like such a dick in the moment because I'm like these are people who are dealing

with like him. I just can't even imagine it. I can't imagine somebody being like, okay, well, here's the problem. She has eye cancer. And let's go from there. Like that's a, that's, that's insane. You just, to hear that, help her. No control, nothing. Nothing you can do except hope that when you go to the

best hospital in the country, which was, I guess, was in Philadelphia, that they're going to be able to knock it out, you know, and she'll be able to see her, whatever, but to see these little, like a little kid with such a disadvantage or that girl that died on her own terms recently, she had some kind of rare disease did you see her in the she's like I don't want to do all the chemo she's like five or six you don't want to do all the chemo and stuff so they brought her home and she fucking hung out and read some of her favorite books or whatever and she died she's like five or six I'm out of force during the chemo that kind of, I mean, it was just a matter of time. Oh, it was just not fun.

And she was like, yeah, she's like, I don't wanna spend my last couple months, you know, if you're sick and thrown up and all that. I mean, I'm not even gonna have kids, and then it just sounds like you just never recover. But I mean, the fucking courage of a little kid to be able to get their head around that. And you're like, but I mean, also it's good because I'm sure they applied her with like,

you're going to go to God, there's going to be angels, you see grandma or whoever the fuck died or Eddie, you know, maybe your pets. Well, but aren't you? Well, you're doing what a lot of people, they fall into that analogy therapy of like, well, look at that person. Yeah. they fall into that analogy therapy of like, well, look at that person and, yeah. You know, and you're doing it, and you're doing it right now, right?

That, I mean, in some situations, I say bullshit in this situation, where I'm like, ooh, the code would start. And she's like, I sure hope I can see. It's like, you do, you feel like a dickhead, because it's so minor That that problem. I mean honestly if I didn't have the bike I could have called someone from production and like come get me Right, you know, it's not really a problem. Yeah, it's an inconvenience. Yeah Fucking hey, but so little kids I can't suicide

So that's what Tony Robbins is up to. That's what he's up to. Yeah, I don't know what to make of it, man, because I'm just like, carousel, my whole shit fucking into, oh, dude, there was the one thing I can't take away from me is charismatic. The other thing is he is helping people, at least in that moment.

So then maybe I gotta give it to him. Yeah. But I would never do it. And if I did do it, I couldn't look you guys in the face and be like I'm going to I just bet five grand to go see Tony Raoul plus flight plus hotel Tarrish to reveal that why I think so because I I think I'm and you guys definitely because you're all older than me But like I think that I I come from that generation, you know as blue collar My follow-work to the city. I work to the city up until my mid-30s. And like, there's just that thing of like, plus I'm a fan of old school fucking masculine.

You know what I mean? Like, I like the shit that people are fucking getting their panties in a bunch of these days. Like, I like pulling yourself out by your bootstraps. I like being a fucking like man, handling your problems, getting your fucking head straight, being in business like, like I like all that shit. So to me, I think there's something, and I'm not saying that's the only path to walk, that's just mine. But you could be, you're coming into a world where that's like you're just been chipped out of a fucking glacier, though. Yeah, this world doesn't want that. You know,

what they don't want it? You're a caveman walking around. I am in your furry pants. That's fine though, because I'm also 40, which means basically the world left me behind. Like the world belongs to the young. Like I'm never going to have an effect on politics. I'm never except for vote of Hillary. You never going to put at this stage. It is your stature at this point in the world. You could have a factor. I can't because you know my politics are. Nobody wants to hear my shit. Nobody wants to hear that like, you know what? Men should open doors for chicks. You know what I'm saying? Nobody wants to hear the shit that I believe anymore. That

men should fucking button up and like be a little fucking tight. Not be fucking pants. Like be a little manly, stop bitching and crying and whining and all this shit. That shit doesn't fly anymore. So I don't. Like the best I can do is keep my mouth shut and let the kids fucking run this new pussy ass fucking world into the ground.

Which I'm sure what every generation is said. Yeah, every older generation. Right, I said that about the generation coming up. Exactly. And the world's still spinning. Yeah, every, every older generation said that about the generation coming up and the world's still spinning. Yeah, still spinning. This is a fucking all-time low for fucking pussy-ass behavior that life. I don't know. Think about in Vietnam, like all the hippies protesting it. You don't think people are like, these fucking, these goddamn faggots,

they don't want to go to war, they don't want to be really, you know what I mean? No, no, yeah, that I agree with. I mean, but I don't see problems with people protesting things But when when the problems are like oh you sit a word. I don't like I need a safe space Oh, I got triggered. Oh fucking everyone and that's that's where the fucking Mimi me shit comes in It's like well this offends me. Therefore don't joke about it. Well, this you know, you know You're gonna talk about you know some topic. Well, I can't be in this class. I can't watch this movie. Why wasn't there a trigger warning? That's always going to get shot in this movie. It's just like, give me a fucking break with this shit. I mean, like you say, I'm sure like the greatest generation now would look

at us, you know, at our generation growing up and being like, oh, they're soft. And maybe that's how you know you're getting old because you look at the next generation and you're like, you got to be fucking kidding me. Like this is who we're putting in the hands of a bunch of fucking pansies. But I feel to me, this I think is part of what I was talking about before why I'm happy now. I am like, take it. I'm like, take it. Take it, you fucking millennials and do what you want with the world. Cause I am, I'm like take it take take it you fucking millennials and do what you want with the world because I am done like my like I'm done Like I'm on I'm on that hill and I'm now on like I'm just looking at the other side and I'm like now like I do It's close to the bridge struggle before you let that go because were you still struggling to be like I want to I want to be a factor in in the world

No, because I think the fire department for me I Think before I got into the fire department, I was a bit of a whiny content. Brian, good fucking to be a test to that. That's true. Maybe you wouldn't have worded that way. Yeah, I wouldn't have worded that way, but I did get car jacked because of the way. Yeah, I think that I needed something in my life that I think men need to be tested, probably

women too, but I can't speak to that. And I never had that until I went into the fire department. And that was the start of me. And that also, again, growing older, like at a turning 30 was a big deal. And I think that back in the day, when, like, the boy back in the day, like fathers would take their kids hunting you know what i mean like i'm talking about like fucking pilgrimary you know what i mean like and they would go to war and they would do these things that like tested them and hardered them

and i don't see only because of my own experiences won't i didn't have that until i went into the fire department and i don't see. But I mean, but a lot of guys come back from the things that you're to say harder than they come back. Yeah, changed forever in a way that you know, and not and not and and legitimately, legitimately, broken, be from, you know, the experience of what i forgot it's called p st p st anx rest is what it yet absolutely so i mean uh...

uh... i mean well that's why i'm on the same i own it's been a but there are no tests now to have to be you just don't you still recognize them well that's why i have the world of fucking respect for anybody in the military because they are the people going through it, but this generation, I don't see anything with softness. The complaining about the safe spaces, the complaining about the current's and offence, the outrage culture that we live in, it's just like...

Well, it seems like they want to be like they, they want it like that That's why when you see a news story like If it's if it hits all those right points that get people pissed, it's in the forefront Yeah, but there's tons of shit that happens, right that doesn't hit those same marks that you know Wouldn't get people to the passion though to actually No, be angry about something and either aid, either bring it to light because, I mean, for my whole, entire existence, I've been passionless. I don't even give a fuck about anything.

I haven't even thought about anything outside of my own little circle. My own little world is all that mattered. And in problems in the real world, we're like, it doesn't affect me. I don't care. I don't care enough to be angry about some of the things that anger, a generation didn't matter to me because it wasn't affecting me. I didn't care enough to be get hostile about it or to be moved enough to be like, what are you gonna do about this? This is outrageous, this is wrong. Let's do something. Now, there's a lot of missing. I was just like, I was just like, well, is my world all right? That's all it matters of me. That's what, that's what this

general, and that's why I don't disagree with a lot of what what these people are saying. In fact, I agree with most of it. It's the it's like the Expression of it because they would say like well, you know why buddy? You don't have to fucking do you You could only get away with your world because you weren't black and you weren't getting fucking harassed by cops Just cuz your skin was black because you you you know you weren't raising a fucking ghetto Yeah, so and they're right. They're not fucking wrong at all. No, no, no, we were raised in a ghetto We just weren't black. Yeah, but it's like they would say like you

You had the comfort to be able to live that existence. Yeah, and they want that for everybody Which hey, man, I agree with that I'm sure everybody had that But meanwhile, but I'm telling you I thought you're talking about what those are look I'm not saying that you're I thought you were talking about What you perceive to be trivial? I thought you were talking about, I'm not saying that, I thought you were talking about what you've perceived to be trivial things that are causing. Well, I think that when you're trivial, you can follow.

No, no, it's not, but I think if you follow that line with some, like you get people who are just need to be like, the outrage, like the, when you got a fucking major movie studio, I still haven't seen Ghostbusters, I know you love it. When you have a major movie studio telling people, like, well, when you got a fucking major movie studio, I've seen Ghostbusters, I know you love it. When you have a major movie studio telling people like, well, if you don't like Ghostbusters, you're a messogenous in a sexist, like,

that's taken too far to, in my opinion, just in my opinion. And that is what I feel as society is now just like, I'm offended by this. I'm offended by that. And for me personally, this is just me. And again, I'm a middle age fucking white dude. Like, you water down the message. You get it to the point where I'm just like this. I'm offended by that. And for me personally, this is just me and again, I'm a middle-aged fucking white dude like You watered down the message you get it to the point where I'm just like, you know what? I'm gonna fuck about anything because you can't even fucking you can't say anything without somebody getting offended So why would I say anything?

Well then well then that would beg the question why you sit in front of a mic then taking a chance Because I'm not saying anything controversial. See, here's the key. You say whatever you want, and you fully embrace, not giving a fuck at all what someone's opinion of it is. If you can do that, that's great. Yeah, it's tough to do though if you, especially when you get the e-mail saying, you know, that I see. Right? I mean, I don't like to get angry emails or emails that are saying that they're shamed

to listen to Tom Steve Dave. I don't like to hear that stuff. So my buddy said on Twitter the other day that he was trying to decide which lethal weapon movie he wanted to watch. And people in fucking Bazaar Conham, you're going to watch a movie that ass all Mel Gibson. He's he's a racist. He's he's an anti-Semite. He fucking did this to his girl. Like that's what it is. Like you're just like no asshole. I'm gonna watch Lee the weapon which is a fucking awesome movie. Like I don't know how to tell you this. Like I think the comment should be

like why the fuck do you feel that need to post this? Just fucking pick one and shut the shit. Sure. That I could agree with. That I could agree with. Well, there, but there's also something I could never really, I don't know how legitimate it is or how much it's played up. I don't really know how much it angers you, Brian, these things, these news, I don't know if it's a legitimate anger, or are you amping it up?

But I can't identify with someone who gets angry about reading or seeing a story about someone being triggered. Like to me I read it and it's in my eye socket and it's out the back of my head immediately because it's almost like I can't make my needle move. Right. And it makes your needle move. I don't like make my needle move. And it makes your needle move. I don't know if it's a legitimate moving the needle or because I don't, yeah, I can't identify with that. I can't identify with being angry

about seeing a new story about something that you find to be ridiculous. Like someone was triggered about seeing something in a movie Sometimes I mean lately As of late it doesn't I don't even really read the news that much so I don't get upset about things but Yes, it's weird like I'll read something and I'll be like look at this fucking puss Like I want I want them right there so I can fucking dress them down and debate them and let them know why they're being such a fucking bitch or why

they're being so fucking childish about something so small and and I just I don't wish I could get in your brain and like and kind of like do some laser surgery to put that part of you out of your brain. Oh, you want to give me a little bit of a bottom. Not full of brain. I'm not really trained in it, but also I wasn't trained to be an inspirational speaker. I think I'm not telling that. I'm watching a video about it.

Let's do a little brain surgery. We should send Brian to Tony Robbins. Oh, I think he's one of those cases of that would be impossible to reach, though. Yeah, what do you think, Bury? You think you would? Yeah, I think Walt's right. I'm pretty fairly cynical. Yeah, I think I would sit there in the entire time.

I wouldn't be listening to the message. I'd be looking around at everybody being like, look at these fucking morons. Why are they crying? Why are they letting people touch their heads like right like yeah there's there's no way whatever he was he was saying would get through to me and i would be like yeah yeah i just yeah i just know my life but i've seen but i see more twenty robins in him then a twenty robins follower though i've seen him do his spend ghouly on

other people. Is it because I look like a ghoul that I'm spending ghouly and not spend ghouly? Oh, the ghouly. I've seen him turn people like, you know, what are your interests? Like the Jedi mind trick, not anymore. These are your interests now. And are green. Now they're mine. And shockingly they're my interests too. Yeah.

What a coincidence. It's the same thing you use. I'll get them. I don't get them uses on hand. No, I can tell get it. I like whatever they like you like. Well, I thought we both acknowledge though that he's that he's lying. No, right.

I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to brainwash him though So you think that's what I do. I can hold it somebody brainwash you. Yeah, I agree brainwash you. Yeah, you've seen some You see a little bit in your day. That's for sure Yeah, I don't know I would like to and my mother tried to beat it out of me when I was little. She hated that I was skeptical about shit. She hated, she was like, why do we have to ask why? She would get pissed if I was,

like I showed any cynicism or skepticism about shit, but I always question like, well, how come and why are things this way? And she had no the answer, so she just got angry. Yes, sometimes too much cynicism is a bad thing. Yeah, or sometimes you get on TV. You get to make fun of people. Yeah, but if that was the, if that was the,

if it ended there, you know, it's all your eels, I'm gonna like, yeah, you might just, not just the right amount. Yeah, I've tried in the past, I remember one time I was reading about Buddhism, and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna in the past. I remember one time I was reading about Buddhism. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna try some Buddha shit, right? So, you know, to bet and book of the dead and I read up on it and I left home and I'm like, right, I'm not gonna let anything get me worked up. I'm gonna be all zoned and shit. Within 10 minutes. I was trying to cut somebody off, like,

and because they were fucking driving so slow. I'm like, asshole, come on. If there's one thing I hate, man, it's a mother fucker. You pull up to a light and the light's green and they don't get into the intersection to take the turn. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. I want to get out and fucking just put my hand through their windshield. Like what is going on in your life that your content to sit through yet a second revolution of a red light? What the fuck is the matter with you? Like I just want to know the answer.

I just want to know. But there's, there's, that's a stupid person. Yeah. Just chalk it up to that. I'm in behind the fucking idiot. I know. But even if I found out, even if they were like, well, you know, I have a philosophy about this.

And they explained it. I was still walk away being like, I don't buy it. You're a jerk off. You're costing me time. I don't want to sit through another red light for no reason. And then sometimes I'm like, well, what if he didn't? I went and then like, everything changed.

And I got fucking well by a car or something, you know, because everything comes down to fuck. Right, because where are you going? You need to get yourself fast. Just fucking Raviole, bro. I'm just kidding me. Yeah, I got Raviole duty. I mean, where do you have to go so badly that you need to be that you can't wait for

a light? It's not that I have to get anywhere that barely. I just hate sitting in lines and traffic. Like when you think about like, all right now I'm in line at a store and now I'm fucking at line at a toll booth. And now I'm in line, fucking waiting because some jerk off won't get into the fucking,

like the amount of time like when you can't combine it. What are you doing with it? With that time that would be more useful though. I don't know, I can watch TV or something. That's the real answer. The fucking amount of television that everybody talks about, I'm just like, these people on this set do nothing but watch TV. There's not a lot of fun.

But there's not a chance of doing anything but watching TV. Did you watch this? Did you watch this? Yeah, did you watch it? Yeah, I watched it all. Like, the hours devoted to watching television is Shocking it would shock I think the normal person. I don't know how anybody can sit there and watch that much television Did you watch Bojack by the way of course? It was an amazing on the water episode like it was so great one of the best episodes or anyway

As well anybody does that's all that everybody does what their free time it sounds like is watch television Ask all anybody does that's all that everybody does what their free time sounds like is watch television Yeah, but you got a lot of people who like it like you says they're into TV. So And what does that do though? Like we mean they're into TV So that got their business. I know but what will it go? How does it help their craft though when they're here though that that like they they can't honest? They just want to watch it would that's that's fine But don't be like well a, I'll work in industry. I got to watch 15 hours of TV a day.

Well, if I don't say that, what do I got? Yeah, that's, yeah, you're right. I mean, people do talk about TV a lot. And when somebody's like, oh, no, I haven't seen that. I'm like, fuck wrong with you. How could you not have watched this shit? There's some good shit out there, man. Did you almost come to tears of the last episode of Bojack

this season? Like the transition from the next to last episodes to the last episode just about broke my heart. The that two things that this past season that moment in Bojack and the very last shot of Rick and Morty when he sacrificed himself was like, oh my god. Like I got choked up and that doesn't normally happen. Like I watch real death videos constantly in a daily list. Do you remember in that episode where they went to a planet where everything was on a cob? Yeah. And but somebody because I moderated the Rick and Morty panel at a comic con this year. And somebody asked, like, why, why was that so terrifying to,

to Rick that everything was on a cob. And then Justin Reuilin went on this rant about how everything's scary on a cob. He's like, Hitler on a cob, think about it. Like, it was just like a three minute rant about things being on a cob, dude, it was fucking funny, I wish you were there for it. He's a crazy person.

He's just the best. Hitler on a cob. I wish you were there for it. He's a crazy person. He's the best hit Laura Cobb It makes sense in his world though. Yeah He's a great guy. Love that guy. Yeah, well you you know you watch Happy days right that's pretty much I watch reruns a happy days And I don't I wouldn't say though that like trans fixed on it though It's my background to what off or whatever I'm doing it to at the end of the night. I read my rewind or re unwinding. Yeah, that's what I'll pop it on. I DVR every night. And then do something else. And then so I know

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Yeah, we should have asked I've been like shit, dude. You're like no stradon with number 29 189 89 yep and yeah, they show the panels of the planes flying over the twin towers and getting popped and over the twin towers and getting popped. And you are you? Alex Jones, blah, blah, blah. Do you put any weight in it? I think it's probably coincidence, right?

Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it was profit. What year was it? Probably 1980 I think I think it says here 85 wall 85 would you be pissed if that's where they got the idea from? Oh like the terrorist Yeah, comic and they're like oh shit boy There were a lot now I mean they're gonna do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to do a lot of shit. They're going to have to There was a I was watching an old game show and The Muppet show was banned in Saudi Arabia because there was a talking pig Miss Piggy was to

Consumers Saudi Arabia Oh, cuz they don't like they don't like Poor Crate huh Do they not like porkers? Yeah, I think they're not allowed to have poor Crate Muslims in general, I think yeah I would be surprised if comics run a list too. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. There are several reasons as to why Muslims do not eat pork. First off, God has forbidden it in several versions of the crann.

He has for only forbidden you the animals Blood the flesh of swine I think a lot of Religions early on weren't down with pork because it was so easy to get sick from it right? That's what I heard like it was a health issue. Yeah So why why band Miss Piggy? Wasn't like you were gonna what did they think that like well? Oh wow? I feel like having support chop signing after watching the bumper show. I think yeah you're trying to assign

rational thinking to a completely irrational way of life. Why was Miss Piggy banned in Saudi Saudi? That band maybe lifted though and that was a long time ago they miss big ease loud like they have they've loosened their fucking Very stringent they could digitally digitally added a burger to miss Can you imagine how different the tone? That would be she's fucking high-yah choppin Yeah Just out of the burgers just the snow Every watch that show they released it like that I guess it was allowed in Israel because, but not Saudi Arabia.

Why was the Muppet Show banned? OMG facts, which I found are not really true that much. The OMG facts sometimes. It's like fucking get them right, some or something. Yeah, that's a weird thing, right? So some of the shit that no, I mean, some of the shit that these countries, this fucking lunatics in the United States were burning Harry Potter books. Did you see that? Yeah, did you see that when they were popular and coming out like Catholic groups were burning issues books of Harry Potter

It was because there were witchcraft. Yeah, it was this Fuck man. Let's see. So it's not like it's that much better over here. Oh, it's a lot better over here Yeah, I mean they're fucking you have the fucking lunatics over here doing the same stupid shit that doing over there Yeah, but this this this Harry Potter thing was it wasn't Muslims it was fucking like not allowing people to watch for a spiggy is the exact same as burning a book as Harry Potter was in it. It's exact same. Yeah, but you know, but it's not like it's outlawed though. It's fucking outlawed. Like if you get caught, if you're sick, well, those people would outlawed if they could, you know, but they can't though. So they burn folks from libraries and shit like that. Oh, yeah, here it is.

It was called Jesus camp. And there was this big fucking fat lady who was such contempt. But I mean, she is such a fucking idiot, this lady. Such content. But I mean, she is such a fucking idiot this lady. It's definitely worth a watch because you're like, you watch these children being indoctrinated into such fucking nonsense and crying and being upset and this fucking blimp of a one-in-fuck.

And trying to keep you from reading Harry Potter? No, because they think it's evil and they're... You know, like, ain't miss a much, it sucks. Yeah, so what's fun about it? And I saw it on a fucking movie. It was fucking I read all the books that were good. The books were better in the movie. I think so, yeah. I didn't read the books. I'm not gonna I'm not some ignorantness that'll fucking just say the books suck too because I didn't read them. No, books were good. If I had to lay this one, I mean it's... Is the Bible better in the Bible?

Yeah, fuck yeah, it's better in the Bible. Oh my, that's the best book in the world. It's the greatest barrier book. Yeah, what about the Bible? It's a fucking great book. Bible is the ultimate beach book. The Bible is the greatest story we've told you. That's the consensus. You know that, right? You're not going to dispute that. I know people say that, but like it's not

really that good of even narratively. It's not even that good of a story. It's not better to I forgot. See, this is, I don't know why, but I do love shit like this as well. There's no end to the Bible. I'm sorry, I'm going. Like Ted Haggard in the movie, Ted Haggard, you remember him. Preaches a sermon against homosexuality. I don't remember Ted Haggard. I'm shaking my head, yes, but I don't remember Ted Haggard. Yeah, it was a thing.

Ted Haggard was this big anti-homosexual dude, of these fucking what year are we talking preachers what year was this have been the 80s no 2000s 2003 to 2006 and you know he's going on and on about Gabi and wrong and Gabi and evil and then it turns out he's fucking smoking crystal meth and smoke and poll You know like Jim Baker Ted Haggard like I love to see them fucking brought down these judgmental fucking assholes With you do but that's just man Yeah, but the Bible can we just go back to the wrong thing? The the religion now, which is it which man will do right man will will will will

shape it and Use it to his advantage gets that sort of man that sort of man does But I doesn't mean that the the actual The thought or the the the whole the whole thinking of it is wrong. It's just that man Will ultimately always. You have a man wrote the book. It's bulldozed. Man wrote the Bible. But yeah, as it was dictated, I thought.

I don't think so. Dictated by Jesus in the Apostles while he was walking around. That's what I heard. I'll tell you what the Old Testament's got some good stories in it, but the New Testament is just like Old Testament. That's a good story, man. That's a good story, isn't it? Does some say the Old Testament's got some good stories in it, but the new testament is just like old test. That's in that old testament? That's a good story, man. Does some say the old testament's got some good shunning. That's great stories in it.

Why don't they make a movie about that? But now I think Nullgiveson's working on it. Like narratively speaking, the Bible is actually a pretty fucking boring book. There's no character arc. Did you read the whole thing? I read the Bible, yeah. Beginning to end. There's a lot of, there's a lot of life.

They should do a version that doesn't have a lot of the old ways of speaking a little bit make it a little bit more easier for people who don't yeah why don't they do that the English feel to it but it's like it's just a fucking dude walking around on telemeo and then Jesus LMA would he's just walking around like fucking preaching everybody old god damn day like how is it even an interesting story like briefly Satan's in it that that makes it interesting. And then him getting fucking crucified is pretty fucked up. And then basically the book ends like. Well, isn't there hidden chapters that no one knows about?

I hope so. No, I know so. Well, that was the whole thing with the book. There's, there's books or parts of it that do what's it called the Vatican? Get it. Hold on. There are stories that have not been released to the population. Why not? Obviously, those are stories that could cause a lot of problems, I would imagine. So, what do I do?

Lost Bible verses? Coz a lot of problems, I would imagine. So what do I do lost Bible pat versus chapter that says gay is a okay and they they excise that Also, it's you know, it's obviously it's been Reinterpreted written and rewritten by kings who want to fucking leave shit out or and shit It's they you know, it's the fuckness what to do And I try anybody who takes it literally has to be fucking mentally retarded. I don't know, man. It's the, it's the, it's a great message though, when you say. There are several really solid messages within many religions. Yeah, but George Corlan fucking summed it up

that better than the Bible did. That fucking speech, you can you remember that? Yeah, what was it again? Oh my God, hold on, I wanna look it up because he boils down to 10 commandments in a fucking, better than the Bible ever did. Let me see. Here it is.

Do you feel that people who... no, I know for a fact, I know this is a stat that's true. People who don't believe in any kind of spirituality or religion are unhappier than people who do. No, I believe that and I've said that before. I think that I am missing out on something by having no faith whatsoever. I think it's a useful thing for people, but I just think that we've wielded it the wrong way. Well, I know I am not fucking religious because it was so fucking boring as a kid.

Like they made it horrific. You know, like my parents would be like, oh, let's go, I gotta go to Sunday school. That's not enough. Now you gotta sit through church. Hey, guess what? That's not enough. Now we have to go to a fucking hour long,

fucking social hour where people drink fucking coffee and eat crumpets and you're just like, you're just waiting to leave. That's a fucking Sunday school started at nine. You didn't get home until one. I'm like a fucking quaker. And by the way, everything that's fucking fun and life, you know, a lot to do. Right.

You are allowed to do it. But just where, you know, under the law of God though, like if you were your wife, you could do some of those things. Not all of them. Not the really fun stuff. What does the Bible say about Stoolin'? You know that one thing, that's the devil's fucking... The devil's playing ground back there.

That's the devil's fucking... That's definitely fucking, you know that you're going down the wrong road. Yeah, I don't think anywhere in the Bible it says give up the S. So that's it. Next week 300 right? Yeah, next week is 300. Yeah. Oh my god. I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna test. We're gonna, we're gonna like Sunday school for fucking that you're just about to get through this to get the 300. Yeah, I bet you some people like it. People like Siddoy, I gotta sit through a fucking coffee and biscuit social hour now.

And you even get a fucking crump get out of this. Oh, well, we kept it real, man. Yeah, not every real fucking Yacht Kjok Fest. Well, next week will be Darryke Hill. Can you give any teases? For 300 I mean do you want me to say that wedding bells will chime? You can why everybody knows you already said it so All right, but we can we cut that out though. No, I don't think we're editing anything all right Well, then I will say you know

Dust off your tux ants you're gonna want to listen to this in your finest clothes. It's everything. Whatever you hoped it would be, it's going to be that more. I think it'll come close to what you hope it will be out there. I don't think it'll, I don't think it'll meet everybody's expectations. I think it's, I've seen some expectations and maybe a little outlandish at this point, you know, that it's going to be better than like, I don't know, every season of Breaking Bad I've heard someone say. Or as funny as, I don't know, what are some FISAL comics? Well, FISAL comics represents at the end of episode 300, Mike and Ming are there.

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And at end, yes, it's Gidem Heavy. But I think we'll use him the right way, though. I mean, he's getting married. It kind of has to be Gidem Heavy. It'd be strange if it wasn't. Yeah, I've seen a lot of complaints about. There's too much Gidem. Really, I've seen a lot of complaints about there's too much. Get them Really I have found the opposite that a couple people complain, you know

Using good too much and I say no measured doses. I think we use Get them as they're exactly as much as get them needs to be I mean how the fuck after you got after you guessed what he was thinking last week Can anyone be like get them the fuck out of here Oh, that was amazing. I've seen it. That was a me all fuck you then Seriously, we we should mention that the zip-os are back on sale, right? I believe they are to be out of stock already TSD merch is flying Really at a rate that, you know, it's I don't go anywhere without this, it's a

Yeah, I see you flicking it right now I'm a dick, I just have a this I have both of them and I'll alternate on days Which one I carry around with me Oh yeah, according to your outfit No, just just my mood, my whim of the day Um, you use it for it, you know, it's smoke, right? No, I don't smoke, but uh You like quite smoking? You like homeless people, I'm trying Do you know it's smoke right? No I don't smoke but he

likes smoke. He likes homeless people. Do you know who are fucking caught smoking? Who? Mike? Mike. Well he smokes cigars right? He was out in the fucking back back by the dumpster smoking today and I can. A SIG? It was brown. Yeah it's a cigar. Oh wait was it mellow? Was it one of the p.a.s? no he was not smoking his uh... yeah I guess it was you didn't know he smokes a cigar? okay not only does he smoke cigars but he's become addicted to cigars and I have it on good authority that an intervention was staged no no because he's addicted to cigars

alright so I didn't fucking work because because why, how is there an intervention? I'm not there. Yeah. I was there an intervention on that. They didn't know it was there. I think it was his wife and kids. It is odd that you weren't there too. I'm a fucking Tony Robbins of Redmond.

I'm a fucking Tony Robbins. No wonder he still smoke like a fucking like a smoke stack. Yeah Yeah, really there was a real intervention and it still didn't work. That's what I heard Yeah, they wait so really life and kids were like sat him down and it and kids were like we don't watch a smoke like we Don't want you to die from I guess lung cancer or whatever Whatever isn't what do you mean or whatever is that it? You know or if you like some self-unfair Yeah, whatever is supposed to you know or if you like some self-unfair I don't know yeah that whatever is supposed to gar smoke in Kadoody and He was like I'm sorry, but I More important to me than you. I don't know. Yeah, he put a cigar around. I want to get his legs

No, I swear I swear this is what I've heard he said he told you there was intervention He didn't tell me I I heard from another source. Reliable source. A mention. Who, you know, I'm not gonna name names, but he seemed gleeful. So even his podcasting partner wasn't the intervention? No.

Wow. No. No, no, no, no, it's crazy to think it. I would, I think it would be more powerful if we were there, because then it Because then it's really like, whoa. Well, you're going to be working with tomorrow. Yeah. Take up the cause.

Save the man. Like we're doing podcasting tomorrow for the TV show. Do you think like right before we start, you've been like, look, everybody got around Mike, we love you. And we know that you're out smoking cigars by the dumpster in secret. And we need you to know that this can't go on. We would love you too much.

And we don't wanna see you in, you know, get sick because you are the most important person. You is though. I mean, how the fuck why is this going on? In what regard, wait a second. Oh, that was his wife's wife's wife Well think about it if my if my something was to have the mic then it's just you and get him in this store All day the other yeah

Wow and I what what he's talking about the cigars. I don't know man the fucking talons of the white owl have Why do you start smoking cigars? I don't know man, the fucking talons of the White Owl have missed his grip. I would say they're probably gonna start the movie soon guys. We should head over. Check out Yoga Hoses. So, uh, Tweet Bikes App Sick at Mike's App Sick and Beckham. Yeah, let's have a virtual intervention. Nice.

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