Tell Em Steve-Dave - #325: Ignorance is Holy

Episode Date: February 20, 2017

Bry, Walt & Q talk to a guy with more experience in exorcism than anyone else they know. Music: Dug Free Man - Break It

The End We can't go to God. Not a fight again. And time drops. It's me, Xephose. It's me, Xephose. Hello and welcome to Tellum Steve Dave presents Overkill with Walt with Q with me top paranormal researchers. We haven't done much research lately though, right? It's limited to the internet. Every month? Yeah, but mostly I look at the internet right before I come. It's pretty cool. Which is step up from QC. Yeah, it doesn't really do it at all. I mean, I'm looking at a cursed skull. An odd

share. I mean, you guys never brought. That should, but that should be. That should right on top of a of a Polaroid from Dimension Z. Oh, so me and you seem alright, well. Well, you know, I debunked the Polaroid. Nobody by pinching and opening and zooming in and be like, there's no fucking way that's him. You're crazy. We haven't debunked the skull. No, the skull's true. The skull's true. We made tonight. Oh, right.

There's someone here who can, who will be able to verify. Okay. It's authenticity. We'll see. A man of the collar. What do you call it? There's many names for priests, man of the collar? Is that what do you call it? There's many names for priests, men of the cloth, the collar. Not an actual priest.

No, actual. What are you talking about? He's got two kids. Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. Yeah, how are you a priest if you're out there? Well, I'm a deacon, not a priest. Okay, all right. What is that mean?

Can be married in the Disney Catholic Church. In where? The Byzantine Catholic Church. Yeah, how are you a priest if you're out there? Well, I'm a Deacon not a priest. Okay, all right. What does that mean? It can be married in the visiting Catholic Church. In where? The visiting Catholic Church. A Deacon. All right, I take it back. What's the difference between a Deacon and a priest aside from these two?

Well, the Deacon, you're Deacon first, then you're a priest, then you're a bishop. Oh, so you're going for a priest, and then you're going to put these two up for adoption? No, I'm staying at Deacon. Okay. What should we call you? Can we call you father?

Father Lance is fine. Do the people call you father Lance? Oh, father Lance. Can I just call you father? Sure. Can I call you dad? Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, father, can you help out an old author boy? I'm cat like, not like that. No? No, exercise references coming up. He seems all right. I mean, the man of the club was wearing a Tom Steve T-shirt over his frock. Yeah, we're not kidding around. You're actually wearing a Tom Steve Dave T-shirt to three heads.

Oh, that's a nice one. How'd you get that? I didn't think Brian said any of them out. He was a miracle. God works in the mysterious ways. I told Brian, I was just like, you know, like impressive. Well, real. Like, you know, but like when you wear the collar, he's under the tone of Steve Dave Shirt.

It kind of loses a little, just not much. It can never lose just a little bit because you're like, well, is that real? Right. Because he's got the tone of Steve Dave Shirt on. And the kids. The kids out of here, that doesn't mean anything. There's lots of stuff. There's lots of stuff. There's lots of stuff that I like,

he's gonna pop that little collar off and just regularly. You really don't know that Deacons were a lot to... No, not Catholic. How would I know that? Well neither is he. To what? No, follow your notes.

Yeah, some Catholic. But you just said you were like some... Bison team. A Catholic. Which we are under the Pope, but if he ever been to North of Dr. Church, if you go into our church, that's what it looks like. Cause we're descended from...

Maybe we should start with the differences, cause the audience is definitely, not all of them are gonna know. Well they need to know, is he's a decon and he's Catholic. I'm trying to just, I'm just trying to fill people in buddy. I'm not trying to debunk the guy. Sounds like it. I asked him to get to get to Walt Near,

first to T--shirt now you guys with all these questions about like all right all right all right Byzantine so that means like your church is fancy right like real or neat my stuff we look the same as an orthodox which is what we were formerly orthodox that joined okay I had long did that happen? Oh? Depending on which region like 500 years ago Because you know the Catholic North of our church is split like your 1,000 okay, and in the 1500s some started coming back I see and the Catholics what do they get wrong the regular Catholics? No nothing. I'm just different Different expressions. I was trying to I was trying to get them to start some controversy wrong the regular cat looks no nothing I'm just different different expressions

I was trying to get us to start some controversy really want to go to work hold congregation do you like do you preach from the pulpit yeah I give homeless yeah not with the tomsy day shirt on I thought you were dancing around the kids again all right cool I accept them. Well, thank you That's a low light. Did you see him? This wipe is brown right there? I forgot I asked him what a Byzantine meaning you almost bit my head off. So I'm just trying to move this along. All right, it's either father Lance or get him to an affekin voice. So yeah, so this is our our

exorcist. Well, we put out all that we're looking for somebody who had some experience with exorcisms and father here replied to that call. He's fought many a demon cue. Yeah. Oh, well, I love me. I was. oversolved me last week. I'm not an extra assist myself, but I did take a course with an extra assist. Okay. It's sanctioned by the church. Yes. So if like you were on a plane like I said earlier and somebody was showing signs of possession and somebody screamed out, is there an extra in the house? Yes, to see if the plane was in danger. Yes, I'd have to. So an excess this taught the class.

Yes. How many of you were in the class? I took about 40 of us. 40. Okay, okay. Got it. And is there a PowerPoint? No.

Okay. This is a double. Right. No, I'm curious if they showed you examples or... I mean, they spoke from their experience in doing ectorcism. fact it was a priest was an actress and a layman who was a specialist in the field a layman yeah non ordained they can do that well they don't he the non ordained doesn't actually perform the ecstasy but he he's part of the priest because the priest doesn't ever just go alone you know he

has a psychologist on his team that'll make sure it's not just my illness. They have to have a physician or a nurse there. Okay, something physical. Okay, something physically goes wrong. And it oftentimes, you know, because priest is pretty busy. They'll employ a layman who basically is dedicated his studies to the field of activism. Walt. This is already going to the field of actresses.

Well, this is already going to be one of the best episodes to tell him Steve Dave, ever. I could tell already. Really? I'm fascinated right now. I mean, let's get right into it. I just I wanted to just now it's obvious. You don't even have to ask the father here, but you don't believe right off to bat, right? What? And what? You know, anything we're talking about in anything at all?

Well, I mean, it's you believe in how long you know believe in The devil God and possession No, thank you Hmm I'll tell you what It's only it's never yes or no like I go to Brian. It's never yes or no, like I go to Brian. It's like, no.

Well, he made a joke at first. Well, I mean, but he's, but he's, you're, you're gonna tell me something other than yes. He's taken the family circus or Q and his rude round about bullshit to, he's hopping over garbage cans and neighbors garage. Yes or no? Yes, yes, you believe? Yes, won't you? Yes, I got your answer. Not yes with an estrus. So you believe in God and you believe? No. You can't have one with the other, right father? Well, if you let me explain, then maybe I can

clarify. Okay. My point being is like, I don't believe that there's a God as presented to us by the man in the sky, the person who's watching us and judging us, but I do believe that there are plenty of things we don't understand in the universe, and I can buy that there are beings out to hurt us that have gotten filtered through demons that Father Lance here has dealt with. Really? Like I don't believe I got that goes on. I'm here, you really believe that? Yeah, I do believe that, yeah.

So you think Father Lance has fought demons without him even having said anything yet? He's like I took a primer. It was like yeah, it was more of a seminar than a class I guess. Well I can say I believe, I believe in I believe in possession, I believe in God, I believe in all that comes with it I'm not like a great cat look But or even a good one what or even a good one look that's that's just wrong right father for him to say to hey I can't judge him right right, you should like like how who is he to even say something like that?

I'm here telling them to bear my soul to the Yes, I know Walter believe in demons and God. Yes, okay. Yes, the fuck we need to hear the rest of What I'm talking to the father on the other side is directing all the caveats I got up person in front of you kids. I'm sorry about that I brought that up as a concern, but he said he said they're going to hell anyway right here. You're your opinion your professional opinion. I was you struck on something that I was going to ask you. You have to like the devil just a little bit right because without because without the devil there can't be a god without dark there is no light.

So without an evil force to battle, good can't really exist. So you gotta be like thankful for Satan just a little bit. I guess I would phrase it maybe in reverse. I guess we could all get along without evil, but because God gives us free will and free choice. And if God is all good, then the opposite choice from Him is evil. So God has to allow evil to exist, to allow free will to exist.

Other places. I always thought that was a big cop out growing up. Like, why did this happen? Well, God even free will. Like I always see, I grow up as a Methodist. And in fact, my mother told me when I was very young, like nine or 10, that everyone except the Methodists are going to help so

well if you're sorry guys i know you but i don't know if you'll ever get it right i'm a bad methodist also you there but people could like would be offended or would would would would take that as like uh... that's not gross ignorance right to be like well my religion is the right religion but if if you're going to believe, you've got to go in, if you're really believed, then you've got to believe that.

You have to take that stand that like, everybody else is wrong, I'm right. Well, I think you can believe in your system without, you don't have to be offensive to other peoples. But secretly, you have to be like, no, I did it, you have to be offensive to other people. But secretly you have to be like, No, I did it. You have to be like, well, they're wrong. Because if you're not wrong, then I can't be right.

I might think they're beliefs or an error, but I believe God's merciful, and I don't necessarily think he's going to judge them because... Is my mom going to hell of Fatherland? Nope, you've always been in hell. He's going to have to have a baby. That last 46 years. the health fatherland so you can believe your ways the right way without condemning everyone else that's how I do it that's how you do it at home you're like okay the methodist jerk off we all know it no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I believe I have to believe that they got it all wrong even though I don't I'm not judging them I'm just saying well they got it all wrong well

I but I don't have to say they got it wrong whatever you know if God is truth and whatever is true in what they believe then there they have a Peace of the truth They're just not maybe as far along the way as we are right yeah you guys will be enlightened once again As we are right yeah you guys are the enlightened ones okay But that would be like you would agree or like if I was to if I was somebody was to like post Come bookman says all religion is wrong except his right that would be incendiary right incendiary. Yes It would be but why sure the the Yeah, yeah, where did you post it? Where did you post it? Yeah, yeah, where did you post it? Where did you post it?

Overriding Righty ran off it oh sweet People would be mad for me for saying that right? I don't understand because I understand that they would say the same thing right the other side's got to be like well They're wrong. Well, they're very very pressed the hot button I mean Islam is very upfront about what right you're right. Kill. Good. I'm trying to line in the tall grass right now. I can see your eyes all back and forth going. I wonder if I've to leave now. I wonder if it's over.

Oh, it's your other day. Sammy, I said some stuff. Well, I did. Father Lansditt. You think we need to get a mix communicated. Can you give me the official Padre of Tom Steve Dave? TSD town chaplain. Yeah, if somebody in the town got possessed by a demon, call them in.

Or are any function, they don't just, you don't guys just spend your whole day looking for possessed people or you doing a lot of stuff? I have a regular job, but I'm well prepared for it. So there will be a lot of functions for father Lance and Tom Steve Dave Town. Right, he's delivering my check on the first of the month and exercising demons. I like it already. Now why did you take your course? What year? Two years ago.

Oh, was that recent? You're a relatively new extra system. Oh. So I thought, so they're still offering these courses. For priests that are, because it takes the bishop of the diocese to like take a priest and say, you are the extra system of the diocese to take a priest and say, you are the exorcist for the diocese. And then he sends them to Rome for the courses, which I think they stay there over the summer.

So they take a series of courses in Rome, taught by the chief exorcist there. And then they come back to the diocese. And as people call in and say, I think, you know, relative or somebody might be possessed. And they investigate, like I said, they go, relative or somebody might be possessed and they investigate, like I said, they go through psychological testing, medical testing, you'd rule anything like that out. And if they come to the conclusion, yeah, this looks like it could be possession. Then. Now, you took the course in Rome.

No, no, this was in my own dies in Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh. Not as romantic. Right. He said he took the role in town. Yeah, it would be a kid who would make you, like, you would shut her a little bit, right? I go home, I'll be like, Pam, we're converting Catholicism.

Is the chief job of an exorcist in modern times to debunk claims of exorcism? Like, that's mainly what they do, right? They show up and they're like nah it's mental illness nuts I think unfortunately some take that approach Really unfortunately Yeah, you want them to be possessed. I knew you like well. I know I knew it because how many I mean I suppose we'll get to this But my my initial thought going into this father is there can't be that many true examples of exorcism. Because otherwise, possession, what do you use the right word for Christ makes?

Well, you can have an example of exorcism. Like, I would say you're being exercised or possessed. Well, actually, if you're possessed, you need an exorcism. Right, but you're way not getting it, right? But, okay, probably not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, if you're if you're possessed you need a right, but you might not get it right, but okay, no possession so actual legit possessions Possessions, there you go. Right right, you got to get more than an apple a day, bro We can discuss it because there are levels

Right this stuff They just stop into nothing okay, can we talk about that the different levels sure? the Yeah, because I wanted to ask him. Yeah, I think. Well, my original question was, was basically, there can't be that many true cases out there. I would probably agree. Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of mentally old people that are going to claim that. There's probably far more false ones than real ones. I would probably agree with that. So that's what I'm saying.

So the main job is to filter out. Like UFO guys to go out and try to debunk. You're trying to debunk it more than prove it. Right. But I want to ask your instructor. Yes. Had he ever performed? Yes. Oh, God. So he was, he had been in the room with someone who was legitimately possessed. Yes. So he says that then that didn't make a shutter? I did. Yeah. I'm sure every listener right now is

wondering if they... It's hard to shutter in a in a store that's kept at 90 degrees at all times. This is something I saw, where is it now? It ties into this movement of international association of exorcists? Yes, founded in 1990 by six priests. There's a little over 200 members who meet by annually in Rome This does by annual mean twice a year or once every two years once every two years. Yeah I think you know anybody Do I know I'm a on that?

That's in the international association? Well, yeah, there's an extra system in the Pittsburgh guys, he's yes. Oh, yeah? So the guy who taught the class, he's like, he's the real deal. He's one of the two. That's not that many people, 200? Yeah, I mean, unfortunately not every bishop appoints one. So there are a lot of dice he's just don't have one.

So there's a lot of business people running around, because they're not covering their territory. Like Q said, you know, a lot feel like all the churches, we've got to move past this suit of superstitious thing. I guess they equated with superstitious or mental illness, the modern take on it. And that's not to discount that some cases are that. But again, if you believe in God, you have to believe in the opposite. What was the point of the course? Like, why did they offer it to you? Why did you take it? Just to give us an awareness of, hey, this ministry exists in this area. Here's the priest that

does it. Here are signs to look for. And if somebody's coming to you claiming this, so we could make a referral to the exorcist if we felt. Would you be nervous to make that recommendation? Because you're kind of putting your reputation in the line. Sure. I feel like I think I got an exorcism here. Um, session, sorry. You know, after, if I interviewed the person and I felt, you know, there was something authentic there going on, I wouldn't hesitate to give them the referral. It's like if Gidams had spun around. It's come to me.

Autism is not possession. Oh, it's not. I'm living in the dark ages. I get to catch up like the Catholic church. For questions. How long was the course a day? Oh, it's just a day. Yeah. So I wasn't wrong. It was it was basically like a seminar. Yeah. One day thing. How long how long was like all day thing? Yeah. Would it give me for eight to five or six? Do you have to pay for it? No, can anyone take it? Oh, this was offered through our diocese to the clergy

that I see. But you can let me tag along with you. If you're in Pittsburgh, I'll try. Oh, you want to be an assistant exorcist? Would you go in the room? Like as a like Brian Quentin Jr. exorcist. Are you kidding me? You're going to take a chance being in the same room. And you don't think that demon would just hop right out of whatever he was possessing and get into your ass. You're gonna take some into my ass, too. Literally. But you know what I mean?

Well, you know what I mean? No, we're having a meeting. You know what, you would take a chance on going into a room and knowing. What I was gonna say as you could happen, you would take that chance. Yeah, I kind of would. As you can imagine, I mean, these things are super low key, you know, they don't

have it, you would never know. You should take it. Once you go watch, you know, they're not, you know, the people out the room are very few. Obviously, the actress is in his team, maybe a family member. Yeah, it's not a spectator. Same. If, like, remember, at the end of the

actressist, like father, carousel, like, gets the demon into him and then jumps out the window and troubles it on the stairs. If you're in that situation, little girl, little boy, whatever, you're just like, do you do that? Do you sacrifice yourself? Well, that's not how it works. So that's more... That's the movie. He he's skirting the question because it got kids here

well that's entertainment let's say this guy what's your name buddy Isaiah what's your name John the Baptist what's that Elias alright good biblical names man look at you uh little Isaiah is he's possessed and you gotta you gotta take a you gotta take the demon jump out the window you do for a cat or a look at that kid if that's not worked yes just stop arguing that it doesn't work that way so the movie

yes so good i like it uh... like of course of course they do things for for theatrics by love the whole You know Illuminati trying to call a Pope bangle Have you watched it? Well, I like it. All that you will like. Oh that they did their research. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, like what was your ball? I mean the babe. I mean, I would say for the again except for I think because right Gina Davis was Reagan as we

all spoiler early you're right he's doing thing he wants you're right watch the films on DVDs so we find out we find out what's gonna see in 2020 Gina is really Reagan and now Reagan's daughter's Red Bull come on

the next is the series right you know and she sucked it you, she got the demon to jump into her like Father Karris got the demon, you know, but other than that, I thought was well done. Yeah. What if the, what was the guy's name, the, the dude who taught the seminar? Do you know it in line? No, his name, like, he was father subbed that or other yes, you're asking the same question If you remember the name of the guy who taught the class. Yeah, you know, I do not remember the priest the extra sister's name I do remember the lay expert For talking about this could you get any trouble for revealing anything about this? I'm not I'm not saying anything that isn't public knowledge. I don't think I mean, of course I talked about

There are books written about this, and look at this. But you could, like, for coming on, you know, it could be like, why'd you do that? Why'd you go on to this podcast and reveal? This is third grade. Yeah, and you really have to stop wearing that t-shirt at the mass. Oh.

Oh. Can you take a picture of you? Sure. Can you hold up the devil or not? I'm like, ah! What if the, okay, what every name was, lunch break is seminar. He comes up to me and he's like, I see something in you. He's like, you are, he's not giving you options. He's like,

you're going to make a great extra system. Would I? Yeah. Oh, yeah. How many people were in the class? You said like 40. It's a ministry I've thought about. Maybe when the kids are grown, I could get to talk to Bishop and to send me to her. Are you saying your kids are holding you back? Yeah, he was, I'm not bad. That's what you're saying right now. I'm saying the time an exorcist has to spend probably, you know, out in the ministries probably more time than I could devote to when I have. Plus, he's gonna take a young exorcist seriously. Like, you gotta get some more hair.

Yeah, you're normal hair color and stuff. You gotta wait until you're like white, maybe even salt peppery. All the beard started. Yeah, there you go. How old are you? I'll be 45 this year. Is there a checklist of things that must be present

before the church will declare, you know, incident demonic? Is there something like, is there a criteria? Like this has to be met, this has to be present. Boom, boom, boom. And if all these things are there, it's a possession. Let's get it on There are criteria for the exorcist to look for and some of them might be president All of them might be president, but I again, I think it's up to the extra cysts

What would some of those things need to be what would what would you need to see or hear or smell? Well, yes So somebody somebody submits to the extra says, Hey, I think it might be. So he's going to conduct an interview. And he's not, it's not so much the interview itself, but he's going to test the waters. So to speak with the demon, if that makes sense, he's going to start saying some prayer, say just some brief prayer to see if the person gets agitated around.

Oh my God. Did you hear that? I said agitated. You said agitated at the same time. Wow. That's amazing. You're in the end of a sentence that's more or more of both of their vocabulary so limited. I'll discount this, right? If he wants to associate himself so badly, just... I want to get to it. We're finished. We're finishing each other's sentences, right? Senses is... How are we going to cut?

The sky is... Who? Who? Oh my god. Go ahead, Father. Don't listen to that. Please continue. So they're having the person's agitated. Right. So if there's some agitation something, then they're going to schedule them for another interview this time, probably with a psychologist present, makes sure. Well, how does the agitation

manifest? I think we're actually getting ahead of ourselves again. Yeah, whatever you come in and you're praying around me, I'm agitated 24-7, so you're not gonna be able to tell. I mean, unless he's dope to the gills on a ligual gills, I just, if I'm dopeed up, then you're gonna know, it's not authentic and you can move on. I mean, it's probably a lot less. He's got a...

Well, I'm not possessed. I'll come at a little brown, just a little brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown This comes we down What is it demon what is it? I'm sure I go back like what we put what we what we jumped ahead too far what did you want to get the basics? What is a demon like like I want like info that we need definition of a demon? Yes, of course a demon is a phone angel that is rejected God It's a fallen angel. Yes, so it has spent time in heaven. Yes. Are we all? Oh, oh. You know, when angels were created, Catholic theologians proposed they were given, you know, because they are pure will and spirit and they don't live linearly, like we do

in time. They were given a choice. Now Now some theorized they were shown that God would become man, as Jesus Christ, and they rejected God becoming a creature lower than they themselves were, refused to serve. It's like kid him on certain days here. Yeah, you should have seen it before you came in. Like I asked him to fix my watch. He did it immediately while it's sort of completed. And he's like, he doesn't do any of the work that I ask him to do. Now he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, man, like I asked him to fix my watch. He did it immediately. Waltz are a complainant. He's like, he doesn't do any of the work that I ask him to do.

No, he, he, he, he, he, he don't fix some kind. He fixed it as if like, like with this manic, like, he was agitated, like he was possessed. Yeah, and I ask him to do work that he's getting paid for. And he's indifferent to it. In this idiot folder, like, ticker with my movement watch. He wants to go look over at some new comics and he's running around behind me going Do you need a flashlight? I'll try to flashlight over your shoulder so you can see what's going on

I'm thinking at the lights turn down because the extra system is all right. Does anyone have any? I don't have a flashlight. I don't have any caracene. I got a lantern Like Falling over himself to meet some sort of bizarre needs that you like to get some sort of like validation from used to. But yet here I give another fucker a job and he fucking and he doesn't even fucking do that well. Do you think what's possessed?

I know like a stream of obscenities. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna say that but it's one of the stuff. I know, I get him right over here. I was demon to my left. I was demon to my soul. I invited him in, like a real asshole. Yes, I got a question going back to your statement about it. I should have shown about it, but as a fashioner is about teeming my exorcism.

There was no difference in the levels of passion. Because it is true, though, man, like I asked, I'm like, hey, could you do this to this? And it's like this, I'll get to it. And then when you come in with that, with those eyes closed, with that annoying eyes closed as if like oh god shut up Because I asked you to do some fucking work, but you ask you're like what new came what new issues came in and he's like Do you need a flashlight to look at those new books cute?

But I always, obviously, just because of movies and pop culture or other forms of media, I assumed that it is Lucifer, the big cookler. So I always assumed that he created demons, but you're saying that all demons were angels and like any demons, it's not like he's creating demons. Correct, demon factory. So like if someone really heinous dies, they can't go through their torture and become a demon. They can't go through their torture. Right, they don't become a demon. They can't go through there. Right, they don't become a demon. They don't even hit like that. Although some exercists do believe the souls of the damned can come back to possess. That's what I always like about the Catholic Church. I always envy you guys. Like you can do anything you want.

As long as every once in a while you go and tell the guy like, oh I'm sorry, you could just go and do it again. You gotta be really sorry. You gotta meet it. You gotta mean it. There's a big difference. Uh-huh. Well, who knows if you mean it or not? God Yeah, but I guess he knows you so that anybody's well-not even bother going to confession, right? I think the main flaw is just like if you get into the end of your life and you're gonna die What if this stuff's real like I may die I am sorry like I'm sorry. And you're gonna be like, oh crap, what if this stuff's real? Like I may die, I am sorry. Like that seems like ingenuous. The words always open. The good thief for penon on the cross beside Christ made it in.

Yeah, do you think Jesus, like when he, because I assume he went up to heaven right after he did, do you think he's like, dude, We couldn't have done this another way. I had to get tortured and hung on a cross and I had to carry in front of people. I mean, I thought my father was born- I thought my father was born- He knew that, I think that's what's- You know it was coming?

So amazing, he knew what he was going to Earth for. But he's, let me assure you a opinion on this. About this whole Jesus thing. So he, I'm not trying to poke holes in it. There's a legit question. So like the idea was that he was around, Jesus was around before he was born. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So he is the same guy or is he not the same guy that everybody commonly refers to as God?

Well, this is the father, the son and Holy Spirit. Right. So they would gather three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three Holy Spirit. Right. So they would be called the three, three, seven, three, three, three persons. One God. They're God collectively if that makes that. Yeah. I thought you went to a Catholic boy. I did, but this is this is this is the stuff that you're not

asked to question. No, no, I understand that. But I'm asking like, what is his opinion of three, separate person? Oh, put it this way. When God was when Jesus was praying to God to let the kick cut past my lips a lot. Was he praying to himself or a...

I think that's the son addressing the father. But they are the same person. Well, they're the same, they're one God, but three separate persons. So, were they three separate people from the beginning? Yes. So, there was always a Jesus, a God. there was always a Jesus a God there was always a father Son and Holy Spirit. They just did you read they found a star or something that was like or a galaxy That was like older than this. It's like like 12 billion years old

They use like some telescope to see it get him. I'm sure you must have read about now Well, it's shocking. You wouldn't be reading about that at work instead of doing a walled-ass show. So, uh... Yeah, the Fix Jack's watch for me. Is that all you do now, the Fix watches? Yeah. It's a Swiss, the Swiss in the coming out. Oh, it looks like Matrix and Clark Matrix.

He does that, I think. So, let's say it was, let's say even 10 billion years. What took God so long to create everything? I think that's a pretty long time to just hang out assuming he was always there time moves the same for God as does for us you don't have to assume it doesn't I have to assume God wears a movement watch much like myself oh we got no we know get a twist that's not gone money that is that is a legit question I went to a wall storker's godfather and I had to go to a class,

or the priest I got to tell you, I was kind of looking sideways at me, but I had to do like a communion, and the wafers don't taste good. They're flavorless. Have you, has the Catholic church ever thought about making them taste a little better, so people are like, this isn't so bad? Well, I got an easy, if you go to the New Galactic Church we actually use real bread. Bread? Bread bread. I'm not bread, I'm the priest makes it but it's... Because I'm just saying that if you were to contract with nature bucks they may be able to provide wafer. What a contract that would be worldwide.

Communion Wafers by NatureBox. Vanilla, Vanilla granola flavored. Wafed Communion Wafers? Yeah, those wafers are pretty fat. And in the bread, I mean, come on. It's a lot of carbs. Tons of carbs. So you go to NatureBox.

You use naturebox.com slash TSD. Maybe the Catholic Church can use our code. That would really help us out. You got food help us out. You can heavenly discounts. Yes. Yes, you. It's endless. The way you guys could benefit. I do not even have to like, I mean really, like, who decided on the, who's like, let's, let's this crappy way for. Why not some vanilla gorilla like you like? Some cashew clusters like I like I would go to church. Fuji apples? Oh, come on man. You would get 50%

you would get 50% off your first order if you just made your box.com slash TSD. You'll never get bored. New snacks every month. That could be it. Snack is communion every single week. All right. Every week.

52. They have over a hundred. You're covered for two years if you just switched to nature box because I got over a hundred and constantly adding more. Oh my God. Come on. Naturebox.com slash TSD. Do it for Tom Steve David and do it for God. All right, let's move on. I gotta do it. Why won't

you off from me? I just, yeah, all the time I'm just thinking like, you know, I just feel bad for those for these two. Do Catholics? I got a box. All right. Okay. So a demon is a fallen angel. Yes. But what were the, what were the things that the checklist of things that, um, that you would, that would need to be present for, uh, for them to be many. So, so, so after the psychologist and the medical doctors say, yeah, there's no reason. We see nothing to explain. You know, this sort of symptom. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, would it like be like?

Well, then he's going to probably start. For lack of a bit, we're like preliminary extra-sism, like some prayers and stuff to see how they react. But what? And then like a full-blown, possessed person might display in this, you know, the movies, do get right. You know, they might talk in a language. They have no business knowing or studying.

Because for a cue that would probably be English. Oh, good one. That's a big, super strength. Right. You know it takes a few people to hold them down where it's a little girl and you know she's tossing to go and men around They may Exhibits knowledge of things they should have their knowledge about they might know like personal things about the about the exercise right

Or about anything general just like why should do this to me to me? They Why don't you do this to me, Timmy? They do. Timmy. Do you want to do that? They do. Extracist are caution to make a good confession before they go in, because unconfessed things can be revealed.

Oh, maybe. Maybe revealed by the demons. In an attempt. Oh, you look so bad. Like, it's a demon. It's a demon. You know he's a liar. I didn't do that.

Me? Something like that. You could tell on his face all the other priests would be like for Christ's six. Dude. So those things start to manifest. And they're going to go for full one exercise and when those things start to present Did did the instructor recount anything like like anything like extra He had not encountered he had not encountered it, but he he said in Rome. They said some will love it hate

They said it's very very rare Like David Blaine. David Blaine possessed. I know if they met like Reagan, like lifting up off the bed. I'm not quite sure. You're talking about them, man. Alright, by the... Do you... So I want to be... Yeah. I want to be very respectful. I'm not trying to... I mean, take everything I say. Please do.

Yeah, because normally on overkill I'll come in and just be like, this is all nonsense. I wanna say that, but I just wanna answer around it a little. I'm gonna get clear about it, that's not what I'm saying. But there's no, in your mind, that their throne classes in Rome for this, this guy in Rome's telling that things levitate. So in your mind, they have to be telling the truth

because if they weren't, then you're talking about a conspiracy or a sham that goes straight to the top of the church. So when you're on it If they're giving courses on it in Rome, it's it's got to be true Why would they waste their time right well to to some might say Perpetuate this fear that keeps people in line, but there goes to this question. I have okay, I want to ask the father that keeps people in line. But there goes, so this question I have, that I want to ask the father, why is it that the church,

it doesn't like talk about this more? Why do they kind of like not want to like, like bring it more into the public eye because I don't know about your church, I'm sure it's strong, you got a healthy congregation, but like I would say that churches today are probably feeling a little bit of a pinch attendance is attendance down majorly Crimes I don't think I bring this up at all the time like get it on the TV like do commercials like your soul is in danger

And if you don't and then like possession you could be possessed at any point Into church and I think probably because it's preaching to the choir thing like until you know if you're if you're you're talking like Super Bowl commercial. I'm talking about like get it more out there like this stuff is real possession can happen it's constantly going down and if you're not like it if you're not on board if you're not getting if you turn your back and you're not having been going to church for a while, you may be wondering, think it because of this. Why don't they do that? Why don't they just really talk? We got sweet nature box in community.

I don't think you want to use fear. I don't think when you want to use fear to to bring things to 100 years though. Well, I think, and I think, I think, Advatic and you, they kind they kind of realized you know the problem with that but it's And it's down so maybe the it is maybe they miss plans like because I want to use the example like if like when I was when I was Well, the abuse scandal certainly didn't help that didn't But like if like when you're doing drivers at you saw the drivers had films about like you know You have a lot of high white blood on a highway like they like you guys should be showing like like we should have the actress this week we should know the

the possession version of Refer Madness and yeah I mean it would be I think a lot of people need to be like scared straight yeah scared straight literally when it comes to those homosexuals. Yeah scared straight Yeah, I thought games were allowed in the Catholic church, right? I'm sorry I gave you gave people a lot of Catholic church. Oh, they were always loud. Okay. As long as you didn't tell me you're gay Well, no, I think even I just don't want Queen to get kicked out. I read his essay on Star Wars I don't want to toss that out of the Catholic Church because he's gay Father did you read this article on Star Wars that I wrote I did what do you think does that

that was great for me homosexual? No why I don't know good question You say such things I mean Well, I read it. I don't know what you're talking about. Q wrote an article. I said this off camera, I mean off my gun, I'm gonna say it on my very well written. I was very, very impressed. Who was it for?

Star Wars.com. Lucas himself called me an ass. George Lucas asked you to write an essay? No. Someone from his company asked me that. He's still, it's it's it's it's it's it anyway. Well, he's still, he's still, I mean, he didn't call me the right an essay.

I knew that was clear. Oh, he's still I mean he didn't call me the right message. He's pocket all of a sudden. He believes that possession more than George Lucas Paul June. So anyway, yeah, so Cue wrote an article and what was your favorite Star Wars moment and his was when Han and Leia, you know, Hans got frozen in carbonate. Oh, I know. And yeah, I know, Han's got frozen in carbonite. Oh, I know. And, uh, yeah. The I Know moment. Yeah. Um, but the, what I thought was really great about the article, I'm just getting around

with you guys, was the underlying cynicism. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You should read it. That's what when you said you weren't going to like it, I was like, really? Cause I thought it was right up the top, right up the rally. It was really just a shot at Valentine's day, the whole day. It really was. It was good. Great job. When you work, and you read it, Star Wars.com. It was really just a shot at Valentine's Day, the whole thing.

It really was, it was good. Great job. You know where can you read it? Star Wars.com, it's on the front page. Yeah. Nice. Front page. Well today, I don't know as a front page anymore.

Thank you. Anyway, demon, well thank you. Thank you. You know what to do, I compliment you. Yeah, that's not what I expected. Um, so did anybody from the class go like, did they move on, do you know? Like from that seminar,

did any of those 40 people move on? No. No? They were all, you know, parish priests and deacon, such as myself. What is the goal of a demon possessing a person? Do they hypothesize? The domination of the person. Thank you.

The domination of the individual. Oh, that's slow. That's just one soul at a time. Will that damnation of the person? Thank you. The damnation of the individual. Oh, that's slow. Prices one soul at a time. Well, that work in for one person. But that doesn't make sense to me. The demons seem slow because, well, if they're possessing someone, then their soul is automatically exempt from anything that they do.

And couldn't God actually like that? That's one of my... One thing you have to understand, possession and again the the movies kind of make it seem like you're you know super natural you know they always show that they're like sucking this black smoke in and then when they're exercised it blows back out and it's not that the demon is physically located inside her person but that the demonic is acting in the person possibly controlling their body but the person is acting in the person, possibly controlling their body, but the

person, their mind is free, they still maintain free will. So then, so then, so they're not responsible for any of the actions that the demon does with the body. Right. And I've never heard, I mean, in the class, they devoid and talk about, you know, like a demonic person actually, a possessed person, committing crimes, and then saying, oh, the devil made me do it. If you remember what you did, then you're probably not possessed because that one of the things that they were saying is, like, especially doing the extra-sism in the fits if you want to call them that, when the demons talking in the persons blocked off by the demon.

Do they have a council of people who were possessed, then freed where they went while the demon was in control? Do they have anything? You from my classes, in the books I've read, the possess usually recollect nothing of when the demons acting About how many possessions a year are there? Oh, I don't know. Well, they have a record like you like to the must keep records Like if they do they're not showing them to me

So so but all right, but to me the demon Seems it seems like a dopey move because they're possessing someone to corrupt their soul, but at the end of the day, they're not corrupting their soul because they're not responsible for anything. So where does the corruption come in? Well, it's up to the person to fight the possession as well. So the person gives in to despondency to, and you got a lot of a lot of these people, I don't know, go for your own.

A lot of these people end up possesses through, you know, they're they're, fooling around with the occult, you know, they're doing things to invite. My ears just, but the event, and if if you remember what was about a year ago you had the guy, was he from Redback, the spiritualist guy who refused to touch your Ouija board? Yeah, he still does. I mean that was pretty smart because you know I like the case that the actress is based on that so that it was a boy not a girl and he was possessed by using a cap to her. And that's not to say that a Ouija board or tarot cards, anything like that, have a power inherent in them, but it's the fact that you are like now broadcasting yourself out,

saying, hey, here I am. And that's one of my questions I'll leave now, because like, what are some things we can do to protect ourselves from a devil, any kind of special precautions? Does listening to heavy metal music or watching certain shows. No, heavy metal, no D&D. Does that make you more at risk? No. Oh, it doesn't. But you just said Ouija boards. Well, we I mean that's sort of direct to cult stuff where you're calling on even they're calling on demon. That's something. Ouija board. I don't think listening to Ozzy Singh, Mr. Crowley is gonna mess you. No.

Good info, Jim. Did you think any of your class, where do you think any of the 40, did you suspect like, like I might be an undercover see in this, trying to like, no. No.

Trying to like get some insight. Like an extra-sister's TV show. Now the devil has in some ways, and could be viewed I think as with, with, you know, all due respect to the Rolling Stones is a sympathetic figure. Like you can see his side of it in certain acts of fiction, right? Oh, certain. I mean, the way the characters are written, but I mean, I don't think that's, you know, these people, well, that, that,

the show right now, right now, right? Lucifer? Sure. All right. The comic book that's based on is he's basically the lead and the good guy Right and he's like, you know, he's not such a bad guy Well, he's he they take I mean they presented they take the reasons that that the church has said That he broke off from God, but present it in a light where you like I Kind of see I'd probably do the same. Yeah, I'd probably do the same thing. Like, I don't want to take orders all day from some glowing light, chomp. I don't want to hang out.

I don't want to hang out. Not your glowing light. So there is no forgiveness for Satan. There is no sympathy for the devil in the church. He's he's Actually the bad guy he cannot be redeemed. Well, if he loads and like and I was talking about earlier They were given that choice and their choice was fine I'm like unlike us who can who live a linear life and can repent at various points. It was like Choose now and it's for you know due to their

Their state is poor. Where do we get that information from? Or is that just an opinion formed by highly educated people in the matter? I'm guessing because the demons will give information during them. Somebody write that stuff down? Oh, I mean the extra stuff. Yeah, but is that like a demonic Bible put together by the ramblings of possessed people? Does the Church is a Vatican have scrolls of basically demonic interviews from over the centuries? Yes, I'm sure they do, yes. I mean, I think we both say yes. Oh my God. They have to have

our guys, you know, if you notice, though, he'll be trained. I said it first, then you say it. Yeah. I think we'll take a more copy of the stackers. The New Jersey Devils. No. If they had a less blasphemous name, wouldn't they win more titles do you think they won plenty my friend they don't their name never hurt them like one more than the king king the kings they and the penguins are even right now but I think we're gonna so close trolls you think do exist somewhere oh yeah I mean there is no doubt there are archives in the Vatican and there's no way that that that people like us can get in there Even like a even like a you know

You know you'd have to be one of the guys center of the study. They just don't let anybody in the art is the pope catcher TV I don't know does the pope is does chrono vision exist? Nobody that could watch any point in history. I remember that episode. Yeah, I it's irreparably made. This goes to this question. Deeming quotes. Let's say, I'm using, I don't mean this anyway. It's disrespectful, but I'm using it as an example. I love that. Like the preamble.

Like anything that's about to come at you and let's disrespect, well, they're like, I don't mean this, but it is. No, it's not. It's not trying to make it a joke It's not trying to make the talk down to it, but I'm just using that example The legendary Charlie Daniel song the devil went down to Georgia. Oh, I have that too. Okay Let's say you did do that you could you is there any

Examples of somebody Going into a wager with the devil and let's say you, let's say you lost Let's say you didn't win the violin like Johnny did but with the church be like you know what you wagered your soul You knew what the risks were we're not gonna step in and help or would the church be like all right? Let's try to save Johnny's soul. Well, this I remember from my class, the priest, they had an example of a woman to practice the piano. What I say, violin, I've had fiddle. It was a made out of gold.

The miracle. If I, if I remember, no, no, no, it's all true. But no, the woman, there was something wrong with her child. Sicker, I don't know, his cancer or what it had, but she promised a devil her soul if the child would be spared. Ghostwriter, Johnny Blaze. Yeah. Who confusingly went on to do good deeds.

He wouldn't be devils, the devil's poem, no, that's why. But the pen and stare was specifically, well that's Danny catch, right? No, that's both of them. Yeah, Blaze pen and stare was Specifically will that standing catch right? Yeah, please have a better. I don't know. Yeah, but you're right. You're right. You're right I really can't you have your different spirit than Johnny plays so what happened so wait But so the church knew about this lady who said I will I will trade my soul if you save if you save if you secure my daughter Correct and what did the church was doing feeling on that well now though? So the woman now we're not gonna be a dancer You know I guess the the bargain was that she was possessed then and of course she wanted to

Help right? In the church agreed to the actressism But at the time in the class, she was still possessed because she would not Renounce there was something she kept doing. So kept doing. She was afraid to make the final break. You're thinking of saying I'm thinking. You're just a fix. You gotta stop that. Otherwise nobody's gonna believe you're really sorry. The daughter would get sick so she wouldn't renounce her for bargains. So they couldn't. What year was this? I for a recently because he was talking about this in our course Like it was ongoing so that like ladies out there now. I don't mean again. I don't mean this in the way

But like don't you think the church has an obligation though to get out there and say Don't do this like if you even if you know somebody you really love don't don't trade your soul to cure them It's so rampant. I imagine that people are promising their souls to see and for for different reasons. If there's one, there's too many and we know the woman who did it though. I mean yes, so they go on a worldwide campaign because one dumb lady was like, well, of course she's dumb. Like, the kid didn't get saved, right? No, she did. Well, she's possessed. I'm the kid that I can't answer.

You would be wrong to attribute the child's healing to the deal though. I mean, this lady's mind that that would be the chemo. Or was the chemo or did prayer work? Oh, so it's there, but you're saying it was a, it was a, but the church is saying this was a legitimate possession. Yeah, they're also saying that the devil didn't come through on his end. Correct. Oh, that's coming. No way. The devil has somebody

hang it. Not cool. This would be the other thing to remember about not cool because we're talking about the trees possession. While church, we're used to calling everything supernatural. Right. And there's show. Only God is supernatural. And Jellic and the demonic are preter natural. What's it called? Preter natural. Preeder. Preeder. Preeder. Preeder natural. Like preeder bed. Like the bread. That would be Peter bread. Okay. P-R-E. Can I take that joke back about you not speaking English in the tributes of this guy? What is natural? What is natural?

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could that be god punishing him for all that premarital stuff that's going on? probably it looks like a horn now right? it's getting bigger it's disgusting it looks like a horn now, right? It's getting bigger. It's disgusting. It looks like a mushroom's grown on your wrist Kids are gonna have nightmares. Have you ever seen anything like that kids? It's a on a person who still walked around in public and didn't care On videos, right? Yeah, if you kids have pitchforks and torches We do it sometimes. So in the Bible and we feel we're going under the impression that anything relating to demons in the Bible was true.

That's that's the basis of what this comes from. So let's can we talk about Legion for a second? Because I'm sure he came up or they came up. In so in the Bible, Brian, you know, this story like Jesus cast out of demon, turns out there wasn't one demon. There were many and they were known as Legion and he put them into pigs. He took them out of the person, right? Put them into pigs, then... Pig on earth? Pigs, yeah. Like, like, what are going on?

Yeah, earth pigs. Okay. And then, drove the earth pigs into a lake and drown them. Yeah. What's that's wacky? Do you have any insight into that situation? Did they tell you, like, look, maybe? throw the earth pigs into a lake and drown them. What's that's wacky? Do you have any insight into that situation? Did they tell you, like, look, maybe?

It was pretty much the only part of the Bible that bothers you, right? In terms of not making sense. Well. The earth pigs. It's all about symbolism. It's all about symbolic gestures, isn't it? Sure. So now, if you remember, then, you, the... You make sure calling, then.

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Right. But also the possessed guy who'd been living among the tombs was an unclean person. Okay. So this is Christ removing the impure... You know, freeing the man from possession, but also showing, you know, he's not, he's not pure. So that leads me to two topics. One, animals could get possessed.

Yes. The demons act funny and we ask. Now you back on my side. Oh, you were answering. Let me say something that's obviously true. He's trying to move it a lot, so you stop embarrassing yourself. As cars, right now interviews work cars

You got a team lead to something. We say kind of car. Yeah, right a car can like an item and objects can be What I mean is well here then I think my cars presents mother And we were talking about levels of demonic activity there is the what Popular we would call hauntings. Yeah, poltergeist activity. There is what popular we would call hauntings, poltergeist activity, that sort of thing. You're gonna let the air out of your tires and knock your garbage cans over it.

Or you're gonna throw things around the room and that sort of thing mess up the house. That would be referred to as demonic infestation. They're inhabiting, well not, I shouldn't have been acting upon a physical place. Not actually cooler than not acting position person But you know, so I put the guys to Dean like creating right yeah, but we would the church. They pull our guys activity is Evidence of the monocontivity So many questions, but I'm afraid to ask them so things are you know flying around you know

You're like to do basically is it getting too real? Now, what a lot of people is going to make fun of you before you get the answers. So I'm going to waste my breath. But I don't be afraid to either hear. Noise is scratching in the wall. But is there a theory? Did he put a theory?

Because I'm assuming, is there a number of demon? Is there an accepted number of demon? From the book of Revelation, it talks about the dragon sweeping a third of the stars from the sky. So a lot of demons. So whatever number of angels there were they theorized a third of them. So we're going to sue on millions of demons. Sure. So let me answer something. At the rate that in today you hear about poltergeists, you hear about possessions, you hear about it's almost never. So are these demons is it hard for them to do what they do according to the church or they just work less than get them

Should the amount of them that are shouldn't we all be fighting things? Well every minute of the day We should all be extra sisters. Yeah, what you got to remember is demonic activity. They're promy their primary activities temptation Like when you see a hot lady like when Stacy Patella walks by. Yeah, you're like Devil leave me alone. One time you start bewitching me. Yeah, you were infested me. So I'm with food. This is easy to my pants. So easy. So easy. So easy. Lost. Sloth. Wait a second. Are you reading my bio or? What's going on here? I got distracted by this.

But what's your creature? Double-ish temptation. It's virtually impossible, though, not to be to live a life without temptation, all right? Oh, it's impossible. You're going to be tempted. It's yielding to temptation, the problem. So what you can't even guess with these demons playbook

is because they're saying temptation. That's the way they want it. That demon. But then some demons are like, eh, it's not enough for me to make you want to steal, say, a Jane Salon Bob Huddy from the Secret SAS 35 Broad Street. That's demonic temptation. But another demon may be like, I'm going to throw this across's demonic temptation, but another demon may be like,

I'm gonna throw this across the room. And then another demon might be like, I'm gonna possess this person. Like they just can, they just willy-nilly. You can't even, you can't even track them down. Well, I mean, what do you say about that? He's like, what? Yeah, I mean, you know, who, I mean,

I couldn't offer an explanation. Yeah, why do some tend to act in one way or some act in another? What are the angels doing at this fucking point? Yeah, they're running around playing harpsin stuff, right? Instead of, they should be fighting demons. I think as the demons are tempting us, I think the angels are prompting us. I want to ask. Like I got about a demon.

Classic angel on one shoulder devil on the on the other i think that is a good analogy for what's going on what if you have two devil's on your shoulder what do you know which advice start a podcast so uh... what a boring existence for these things the angel's imagine being immortal

and and having and knowing being immortal and having, and knowing God personally, and having, no time does amount to, space does amount to you, and you're focusing all your energy onto this tiny mud bowl planet in the middle of nowhere with these people, and that's your existence. And your worst is your apoltergeist, and you're relegated to doing the same thing

that like a toddler does, which is just like messed the house. Yeah, this is the only mud bowl in existence though That's shocking that you believe that so aliens don't exist, well, right? I would not discount alien life given how big the universe is me neither We won't really accept that time, but... But... What about that? What about that? Ali, it exists. Right, we know this. The theory being if there's another planet out there,

then God is also responsible for that planet. Sure. Intending like another garden. Sure. God, is that... Now, what if the Adam and Eve of that planet didn't screw up? What if they're out there in perfect happiness and that will that means that the devil hasn't gotten there Right, right?

He was beat. If you ever read CS Lewis is the hideous strength. Is that the hideous strength trilogy? Basically, that's what that's about. He goes to the one planet where the Adam and Eve defeat the devil and he goes to the one planet where the Adam and Eve defeat the devil and he goes to another planet We're sure that it kind of it didn't work as well it did on earth Where's there is a that is cool now when you say that you you there could be alien life Do you do you think it could be intelligent though like us sure really? Well, he's saying that there's another round of are you talking about like mankind or you and father Lance I mean

But doesn't that doesn't that there's no mention of that in the Bible though Why do we need to know about it? Yeah, I mean, I don't know I can't blame it definitely just because you know you read any of this stuff about how, you know, Earth is like in just a right part of the galaxy on the right length of the arm of the galaxy for a planet like Arsene. Because if you're too close to the Galactic Core, there's too much radiation, you can't have life. So, you know, I like saying we didn't go to the moon. Man, Alan knows. Right?

Satanic. Satanic belts. Can I say something to you, kids? You, that's cool. I hope you guys know that. Like, I hope you guys, like, respected that this guy's got all the answers. I'm digging it. He's a demon slayer, boy.

Yes, man. Like, I hope you guys like your dad. Yeah, you know, my dad was also very active in the church. He's a good question for you. Up until I was like an eighth grade and then suddenly they stopped caring, which means I had to spend my whole childhood in church and Sunday school on this crap. And he would, you know, they take collections and stuff. And so he would, I guess, want some month-makes to deposit, but he would keep all the money

in his top dresser drawer. That's tempting, right? To an 11, 12-year-old who wants to go to the arcade and see all those quarters. Or even to a guy in his 40s, who needs five pills. Yeah. Just a matter of age. Say that kid took those quarters and then gave some of those quarters to a friend of his to play pinball. But his friend had no idea that it was stolen from the church. He's still going

to hell, right? He's innocent. Ignorance is holy, right? That's the details. Steve do slow. How about on this? Can is it easier for demons to possess people who aren't Catholic? Since they're since like a Methodist. Oh, I wouldn't. I don't think I could say that. Just because you're Catholic, you can still open yourself up. But is it easier to get somebody who's like kind of like not not not? I'd say I would say maybe it's easier to get somebody who's not baptized say some like dirty hippie Buddhist right really. And I think you mean at least the church would probably say like in in countries like India and Polish the shittles. Yeah. Yeah. Play that. Can we play shit all of a sudden? There's no drop in that. Drop in that, drop in that theme.

I said, one, two, three, four, five, four, five, four. All right, we're back. Oh. You know, third world countries where Christianity really hasn't established itself, they see a lot of possession, yeah. It's so arrogant, isn't it, like the Christians? I remember what, in the 70s, what do they call them? Missionaries. They would go over, they'd be like, hey, Hessels, what do they call them, missionaries, they would

go over, they'd be like, hey, Assles, what are you guys doing? You should be a Christian. They're trying to save the world, right? I mean, it's nuts though. Think of the arrogance it takes to go to another country and be like, everything you've got, I don't know anything about you, everything you believe is wrong though. And if you want to get saved. Don't you believe that a lot of these countries that are doing things that are wrong need to be told the right way like who just named some countries just what like no i mean like do you say seven countries you want to name i mean it sounds like they were in there they're not tusks oh yeah you don't think that they need to be told but that's that that has not a good religion that's because they have a lot of money. Anything that they're fucking ignorant and ask backwards on.

I agree. I need a fucking slap across the head. Suddenly I'm protecting every hunter. How am I going to get my back scratchers if they're not out there? There's a lot of people like very peaceful people that are attacking elephants Delegates figuring them you know who are like oh hey like they would go to like these little like tribes and stuff right I'm gonna be like well like it sounds imperialistic I guess to you

It's really no different than the muslims Muslims might want to be muslim You're focusing constantly yeah, you know to the gods and Well everybody's an asshole. It's kind of the thing, right? Like every society is full of just monsters imperialistic... And it's like suggestions back up in Europe, which, you know,

it's back up. Theoretically was crazy. It was down for a while. Or they just started to... I'm just finally releasing the figures. Well, I said, you know, Vatican, you happen in the kind of like, they didn't disavow exorcism, but it just kind of got pushed to the side. And, you know, things started to happen and then, you know, the Pope's like, this is getting

which Pope said that? John Paul, the second I think, was first one to say yeah, we need to Get a stopover to up tick and was like we got to get the strike force back together But the one time there was this video video the possessed child in St. Peter Square and John Paul kind of stepped aside and performed like a smart says a monom There in St. Peter's does the Pope have more power than you there in St. Petersburg. Does the Pope have more power than you? He's like, I'm his bitch, so yes, but... But if any

terms of being able to dispel, who's more respected? You were the Pope. And there's the trained exorcist. Well, the section of the church, I mean, the church isn't going to send Joe Blowout to Jack, you've got to be a priest. So even I don't qualify as a deacon, I'd have to, you know, I'm a priest to actually be appointed an actress. The power is in the sense of like just a word but not like, like, the power. Can you fly? The Pope. Well, like spiritual power that the church has the ability to grant to somebody because Christ gave the powers and the keys to the church and what you mind and what you lose. So he has powers. Well, many things more than a normal man

Here's the power to look like Dracula and and and it's how sound like Dracula and constantly look like he's dying Every Pope I've ever seen is like bent over a lot. Oh, is he really is a young I'm like hip-young dude. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is he changing like rules and stuff? Yeah, he's making like game arid Acceptable and so are really well Yeah, he's making like game arid acceptable and stuff. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah, huh? Not, I don't think he said that. Oh.

Oh, damn. Oh. Well, we've got some of those glasses. Have you girls seen any an uptick in demonic possessions where you're from? No. But no, the levels probably about the same. You're not baptized?

Really? Yeah, you're okay, you're safe. What about you? Yeah, you're both going to hell. Yeah, what about a baby who hasn't been baptized yet? Is this the thing like, what? Going to hell, sorry. No.

I thought that was a, like a baby's born and doesn't get baptized, but then it's like a kicks for whatever reason. Some reason, hot limbo, which was like... Like purgatory type thing? No, limbo was nice, it just you weren't, you couldn't see God, but you were happy there. But I think they've pretty much put that to the dustbin. Oh, that's a full... The baby's going to have it.

Okay, someone wants. Yeah, what's a baby doing? Waste. I suppose he was an original scent, right? I'm sorry. Baby's an original scent. That's what I was yeah, I had well You know what you know what I'd actually like to get from you what what happens in an exorcism could you could you give me the the procedure? Like like you tell me they've had conversations with demons and demons alike

Bap bap bap and they they write it down. Well, they're not I mean conversation that they command the demon Well, they're not, I mean, conversation, they command the demon obviously to leave the person, but they'll they ask them their name. Do they have to give their name with this? It's like asking a cop if they're a cop? Eventually, I mean, it's like, thank you. In fact, one one extras has put it. There is no, we try to like group the demons like, like they're this kind or that kind. To the demon, the same demons show up like as are multiple incidences with the same demon and it's like it's like this guy again one time and I get back again we're going to build a fuck of wall.

In a doubt. No, I've heard. Whoa. Whoa. I'm going to speak of the metaphor. It's daytime. I've had a spiritual wall. Yeah, like say some rapist demons trying to get to him.

I'm just give a thousand dollars to the ACL you're buddy. Could you not make me give another thousand dollars please? I just cleared us. We're fine. We're good. It's the same demon's re- That's a good question. I have seen demons re- Like I mean, I'm in the same demon's re that's cool Well cool might not be the word, but you know what I mean like that's that's very

fascinating I mean the for the Roman right Catholics there is a a detailed You know list of prayers and rituals they're gone through. Okay. Now, the extra is just telling you, well, you don't maybe need to do all of it. They might work with just so much of it, or you might need to repeat it a couple times. You might see some demons who takes weeks, months, one next to us, said, took them two years

to free. What about the exercise, the, what's his name? Like that it was based on in the 40s. Right. That was largely debunked that that whole position. That that was based on the debunked how. In a way that somebody who was there was like, I don't know, I mean maybe some of that stuff didn't really happen. Well, I mean, again, the movie, yeah, the movie versus what happened in real life, I mean, of course, yeah, I mean, they put all kind of stuff in the movie. Because I mean, I'm sure that like, obviously, people are more educated now, but up until a certain point, it's like the smallest thing, was like, oh, there must be a possess by a demon.

Can you imagine me in a schizophrenic in like the 13th century? You're done for. But that's why the church now is here. We're being an autistic in the 21st century. We're being an autistic in the 21st century. We're being an autistic in the 21st century. We're being an autistic in the 21st century.

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The cues point, yeah, the church wants to avoid, you know, taking a mentally old person and exercising and saying, you know, you know, they don't want. Yeah, they don't want that on there. Right. They're legends of exorcists. I mean, and I mean like like, like, baby roots. Yeah, thank you. Like a baby root of exorcism where people like all man in the 14th century this guy

New he was doing It leads me to your skull here Which when you put the picture up I was like should we get the skull out? Get him get the skull out here. Thank you. I'm not. He called me salt. He called me sir. Not you won't Um, when we ever find me trust me While he's getting that skull out though, we should talk about how nothing is more Heavenly than cooking with your family and say blue apron That is correct

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Thank you. In the original script, he said no shit Sherlock, but they changed it. All right. So before we even hit the skull, what about this possessed Polaroid? What about the whole? Did you never... Did you get into what someone posted about that? That was so shit. That was Photoshop. That's not no bobo. That's me. That's our key. In another dimension. Yeah. And his daughter evidently visited the dimension for a party. Now if he's traveling to different dimensions, he's probably possessed right? Looks like you the nose isn't ring It's a demonic nose I'm sorry, but that guy looks fuckable to me

All right, no, yeah, let's see the skulls All right, so the skull's out of front of you. We have a father all you up all that money What was your point about this girl? You were about to make a point that led us to this the face. I said I know I've seen that Designed before and okay Prussian kissing devil. Have you done a research on this the research what it's it away supposed to be well We got we got we got a listener sent in a very long history of the skull to us the the Prussian one. Yes, that's BS Why what makes you say that So cute have you ever heard of a kapala?

Of course, yeah, let's assume we have one for lunch earlier today So Yeah, let's assume we have one for lunch earlier today. So I love a good Kapala is which is what I think this is an attempt at Oh, it's a half-ass Kapala Well, I think you do well. Do you think it's a real skull? Yeah, the skull looks real. Yeah, yeah But if you Google Kapala and see what it is now certain things about this Meet the criteria and other things don't well in the legend that that they sent in they said that

attempts were made to contain the skull by by doing this contain the skull what so it was a cursed press and skull and then they took it to that in booties among the according to and in fact if i remember correctly the legend said that they failed that they tried okay so the fact that you just said it looks half fast maybe because in a Tibetan cabala what is a cabala I don't know it is a

just a human skull you turn into a cut you know this is what's not right about it is this doesn't come apart does it? no not to my knowledge this is betton kapal is this comes off so you can drink out of the top that's so badass drink what? what are you writing? what else you got drink? wine but this symbol?

yeah this is not communion wait wait wait wait is it called a what? a double vajra double vajra betton boot symbol meaning what? it's symbol of protection

This is probably This writing is probably Tibetan Sanskrit a Syrian maybe Yeah, but the the legend that we got specifically said that this was set center to bet for this yeah So some kindly Buddhist who's like a matter of help you out to contain the evil within the center. They said I was sent there and that they failed. I'm going to look up all of that. Right. So the this triangle pedestal is correct. They're always housed on that because that represents a fire altar.

And how do you know this? Maybe lines. It's recent. Okay. I'm asking how we know this. I wasn't like full shit. Maybe a lot of them here represent cars, it's a flower altar. But if you Google Kapala, it doesn't look like this.

So what's your explanation for that? Carving is usually done right into the building. Like, I thought maybe this is metal and laid, but it's not. No, that is car than the skull, right? But the car being is usually a lot more detailed and better. And like I said, it's not. No, that is car than the skull, right? But the car being is usually a lot a lot more detailed and better and like I said it comes off. Now this row of skulls is usually there. But the failure skull is completely different. I never heard of anything interesting. Okay. It was born with one. The mask reminded me. I was like, what is it? It looks like

get them. And then it looks I've get them for the horse for coming here if I Met what sorry my best this is a penny by boy. Yeah. Oh Boy, a saint Francis board you know, I'm an actressist Holy shit. Let me see you Let me see you I Look at my arm right now tell me I do not have fucking goosebumps going up and down my arm. Are you thinking of your article or looking at that? Oh my god It's the Prussian kiss and skull when was this painting painted? You're asking a son you're actually nine year old son

Goya I think believe in the 800 we need this is mind-blowing so that is a painting of uh... c-frenz is more exercising guy in that face appears there pretty quick the one that looks like ming it would not surprise me if ming turned out to be immortal of some sort possessed

hey man so this is seventeen forty six to eighteen twenty eight so this legitimizes the skull you know what you're pick your blessing. Okay. You'll find that picture online What is it called that? Yeah, look up Extracism by go yeah, G.O.Y.A. That's a stage name So this this when you saw the picture it freaked out a little bit. Yeah, cuz I was like it's weird that that design was used for this skull You're like tell me why do I owe Q and apology? It's weird that design was used for this skull. You're like, tell me, do I owe Q and apology? Yes, just say yes.

Just say no, please. Wow. Well, like I said, you'd almost need like an expert in Tibetan Buddhism to take a look at this. Oh, so no, okay. But, but, I mean, there's no doubt that it's real. Oh, was it sent to the vet or did somebody knew a little something, you know, trying to make it pretty ornate?

Man, it's pretty dead on with the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, set this in the front of their store and say, hey, put that was easy. You got a picture. We got a post that like, yeah, we got to get this out. They got to get the word out. But okay, but don't you think the fact that's that somebody sent us in this legend, right?

And it was long you got this at an intake store right where we're sitting out there Basically at like a Pennsylvania like flea market type thing. Yeah, that's where you find all the most Super neutral stuff. So the person who sent in that thing Didn't know anything about this all this Tibetan stuff on it and and and went and wrote that it got sent to Tibet to help remove the crack and they failed so the guy he said it was uh... uh... depression

willime bond no he didn't say it was a general he said it was uh... it was a villager that with like some it was like a village in war and village yeah like the like uh... village more the first thing that comes up is this austrian uh... kernel or general kernel oh my god

oh my god this is crazy it was yeah if you look up the name of which one hogwitz right with that one will i don't know will helm So funny you know what comes up now will have on Hogwarts skull and will have on Hogwarts Prussia comes up. That's a starry No, um, you be could he be there's a count but that's not his name's count Frederick will I'm Von Hocky be related to him he but this is not gonna do with me though how do you know you said you were drawn to it because my my family's from from Italy and Ireland County Court it wasn't Italy part of the pressure Empire I don't you

were asking a guy that does not know. Okay, you're in school. Yeah. Yeah. Spooky, spooky stuff. Wait, so what is your take on this? It's hard to say. I mean, like I said, it wasn't somebody that knew a little bit and thought, I'll take a medical skull and dress it up and say it's, right, because he was collecting money. Right. At the antique store, the right, the original guy didn't want to give it to you, right?

Right, because he probably figured I should make more than $600. A year people throw in fives and tenses in this. Right, and that's tax-free money because it's cash. Yeah, that's a good point. And then the dummy son that inherited was like, oh sure, here you go, Q. $650. Oh, we have money. $650.

We have money. We have money. Sure, here you go, Q. 650. Yeah, gave up. Oh, we have an amazing, gave up the family money maker. We have a, I don't, I don't like to do it. So I even I did it today for your guests because I'm not gonna say no to, right. A lady, but. Oh yeah, what did you guys wish for? That mean you would end up together tonight? Guess what?

That was $5, well spent, baby. Why is she taking him to the finals? That ever fucking, wishing against that? So when you had in your house, did you know the same thing where you're going on? I did, I said like one of my cats reacted very oddly to it. And yeah, I did, that's why I brought it here because it was like getting like weird vibes

and the cats, the one cat was freaking out around it. But what you said actually makes me more believe that it's real, because you had said that, the reason that you didn't buy into it was because it was that thing that you called it the Kapala Kapala but specifically in the legend the guy wrote that it was sent to Bet and it went wrong. Should I be concerned to have it here? Should I be a good ice ice? I said this is my spot. How long do I sit here?

Almost all day. I stare at it all the time. Do you do that? No, I'm all doing is launching eBay auctions at Hebris that he cannot launch for some reason. Have you had any? Have I had any absolutely not? Absolutely nothing. With eBay or with any but plenty of problems.

Yeah, but my problem pre-dates the skull, believe me. So yeah, I mean, it's possible. I mean, if you kind of find it hard to believe somebody was from America would send it all the way to I mean, I don't know how that would happen or how much would cost. I don't remember this to Tibet. Get it to bed and monk to do this to it. I don't remember the story. I don't remember if it was in America that point or somewhat. I don't I gotta reread it. I don't remember. But the face definitely like the face is in that paint it's a freak out. Yeah, so they obviously they saw or copied it. I don't know. Would you and your just in your honest or just like would you say keep it or just like maybe we should not keep it here. I mean it's a cure. I mean if you don't see anything going on with it, I don't see any harm. Have you seen an increase in possession since it's been here?

Is there anything we could do to protect ourselves? Oh, it's not a kid. It's actually just a kid, man. Is that... X-ersized salt. That's salt. Why is that salt right there? Exercise and blood salt.

But, yeah, that salt's at a gittems mouth. No, it's not. They just sweat all over it. That's salt. So, what do you mean exercise salt? How is assault exercise? There's a extra system read and over and the blessings written over it. So I said over it I should say so what are you giving us this exercise salt to do? What just put it on the base? What do we do with that? Whatever you want? So wait, you know what? So when I don't have to use a whole thing just use it a little bit

So I get pulled over by the cops and I have all you need that vile back. I just tell the Texas salt You can keep all the thing. I'm just saying you don't have to use a whole thing just use it a little bit. So why I get pulled over by the cops and I have to I just tell them it's actually salt. No, no, you can keep all things. I'm just saying you don't have to use it all. Would it be just cool just to put the violin just like that? Sure. Or do you got to spread it around? I think I love the violin. You're going to have to get a violin. I have this is a challenge for you. Or get them all know what this is.

A good medal. You went to his clinic in school. This is a challenge you are getting will know what this is St. Peter You went to his bed in school. It's a medal of St. Benedict. Okay, which exercise use quite heavily because on the back Or actresses and prayers are inscribed on it. Oh Shit, that is cool. Thank you. Thank you. I could get this made into it But now who's this guy on it? Just me just having this. Is this me putting it in the face of demons? Oh, sweet. Is this what? Is this me putting it in the face of demons?

I just keep it in your house. What is this other thing you're giving us? Same. Just a smaller one. Oh, this, this, I can wear this around my neck and be protected. And this child on his face. What?

You got to have faith. You know think I do This is crazy I can't believe you deserve to wear a cue I can't believe you guys are glossing over the fact that the face of the fucking brushing kiss and devil is in a 200 year old painting. Like you guys are not blowing away this. What do you want? I believed 100%. I'm stunned right now. That's crazy. But you're certainly a father and you don't think there's anything to the skull. Nothing's happening with Walt.

I mean you had, like you had the cat didn't like it. But it didn't help me when I gave it the gift. Did it help Brian? Did it help you? What? You thought it helped you. Well, we could say that about anything, can we? All right.

But, um, get him. Put that salt back. What do you do? No. We can't even possess an object. Like a phryza. He can definitely, that's what we're talking about. It's an infestation. He even can act in an object. Like a phryza. He can definitely, that's what we're talking about. So, in the infestation, demon can act in an object.

An object can be cursed. An object can be cursed. And how does an object be cursed? That's another thing, if you want to talk about it, possession. Into the, yeah, please, into the, the, the, the, the, the, the, probably the worst cases of possessions are when parents curse their children. Oh, boy. It's very difficult.

Like how? Because they just curse because they didn't want them or... Oh you want me to cut words. No, no, like they put it in their new jersey. Like if I said, get that root, that pop pop room clean. That's at the same time. No, no, no, no. We're gonna sit on your fantasy, please zombies in space land all day.

So an object your person could be cursed, but does that mean curse with a demon or Well, that's only the only thing that's gonna affect a curse as a demon. So will I'm Von Hogwarts could have been cursed by a demon Possibly the skull could have been cursed. We have we verified even his historic sauce This could be your first case as a demonologist slash exercises you You verify the skull man. You're gonna make like what what what's the newsletter for Deacon's every month?

Like what comes out? You're gonna be on the cover man. Highlight right? be on the cover man. Highlight right? Yeah. Highlight TV. School for single-lion. Wow, this is thank you for this, this is cool. Who is the guy on it? Is that Jesus? That's St. Benedict. So he Benedict, what does he do? He's protector of...

So what is the founder of monasticism in western Europe? He was a renowned exorcist. He's like a monk? Yes, he was. Benedictine monk. And my wife... What yes that addicted to the founder and they do that that weird like chance right oh yeah it's cool you have a recording chance and these are prayers these are these are

excesses and prayers on the back I'll tell you what it says I got mine now around my neck and I'll never take it off for the rest of my life. So on the backside, you see a cross. Yeah. CSSML. Yes. ND SMD in a cruise form fashion on that cross. Right. So that's crux, Socrates, seat, Miki Lux, which means the Holy Cross be my light.

With non-Drico, sit, Miki, Dukks, never the dragon be my leader. Dragon be in Satan in this instance. Why are these burning my hands? And then there's a cue on the side. Should I be worried about that? Yes. SMQ live evening. Then around it. You guys. VRS NSMV, which is Vadi Retro Satanah, Ngun Kwam Suade Mihi Vana, Get Back Satan, never tempting you with vanity. And it continues SMQ LIVB, which is Sunt Malah Kwe Libas,

Ipsei Venena, Bebas, evils what you offer. In this case, if you look on the opposite side, it's kind of hard to tell. Besides St. Benedict, there's a raven on one side, and there's a cup with that's a serpent coming out of the cup. Oh, wow. Because some of his monks tried to poison on one time and he blessed a cup and it broke I believe in the poison so yeah nice try guys evils what you offer drink drink it yourself Wow

Yes, how fluent are you in Latin? Is your Latin pretty fluent? I mean I can pronounce it You speak any other languages? No. I'll learn another language. Try to learn. Spanish. Yeah. So we're going to be the most useful one that you have. So, but it's not a dead language. So you can probably pick up chicks with it. You can't say that this there's more to me say I about this. It's the jury is still still out right I mean unless somebody was to say hey I had it in my house and you know I'm stuff's flying around I mean yeah but thank you for the salt and thank you for the you can't disprove I can't say it's not a cursed object if you

went to Q's house like you would you piss on my seats yeah would you be like a paranormal ghost hunter and piss all over his bathroom with respect no no no I put the seat off I'd like you but if if the he was like hey man I put this skull in my house and like you see some stuff flying around who do you call like a priest call a priest like a priest you're like a local priest a local one haven't come to a blessing yeah a blessing will clear it or could you give it to somebody don't like just Okay, well usually when you have something bad blood between it That's metal and skull sound how much I guess you can incinerate the skull portion in a

Crematorium but according to the legend they've tried to Combat the evil of this thing over the years and nothing's worked tried to combat the evil of this thing over the years and nothing's worked. But what did they say what the evil of the thing was? What it was doing? It was so evil? I don't remember. I got to reread this. How can I ask you a personal question? Sure. How did you start listening to Tom Steve Dave?

Um, what makes a deacon? From the very beginning. Well, there's only been a deacon for two years, right? 13. Oh, 13th I said two. Oh, it's over the class two years ago I like Kevin's movies So I listen to small cast and you guys were the second one to come up on on small. Oh, so you've been listening since the beginning Wow, are you looking for G-Ant?

Jans Allen Bob reboot I am I'm disappointed there's not gonna be clerks three so am I but I'm looking forward to it but do you think you guys are gonna be in that really hope you are I don't know probably younger better look a version of us if it's a reboot isn't it yeah I'm gonna see if Zach Efron will play a young tell him Steve Dave wow well is there there anything else guys? I can't, I'm not sure. I mean, this is the other question.

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I mean, this is the other question. I mean, this is the other question. I mean, this is the other question. This is the other question. I mean, this, that looked familiar and then didn't really think too much about it. Like I said, I was researching for today and just came across, you know, because you could go to an extra-sism and yeah, it comes up. I was like, that's where I saw it. I showed my wife and she was like, I was like, it looks exactly like it. It does look exactly like it. So, do you and your wife have like theological discussions constantly? Like where you're burying each other's religions? So do you think it's wise for people to give the skull money if it is a cursed

item? Or is it I don't even if it's not cursed? I'd say it's silly. Yeah, I'd say it's silly either way. It's silly the way. Get your money to the church. That's not silly. So... James B. I mean, you're punished. Let's give it a five minutes. Let's give it a five minute. Let's get that done. Alright right. Let me get that. Let's not hide it. All right.

Let me ask you something. If you came here and you saw concrete evidence that that was cursed, what's your next move? You just had to do a cold priest. You have it. Or you could say a prayer of extra sys on it for an object. And I don't think that required. I mean, you could probably do that.

Anybody could do that. How could you prayer? Apparently the powers to do that if I see something? Yeah, you're like you're sure you're going to tell me. Yes, Q. Yeah. I've been granted the powers to do whatever I want with this go. Yep, sorry, start loving. All right, so let's say you see that salt that you put on there, right? Shoot off across the room and you're like, whoa, and I'm like, you know what?

I don't want you to do anything to that. So I wanted that as is. Do you want to try it? You want an evil? Yeah, and I'm like, you know what? I don't want you to do anything to that sky. I want to try it. You want an evil? Yeah, like I want an evil. No, I mean, do you want to see if the salt flies off of it? I don't. No, I just hang out and wait for it. Well, let's say we did, right?

And the salt just flew across the road. Or even that little vile shot at me and hit get him in between the oven. Like, he had just gotten his new teeth. Like, knock to see that. That's probably a problem. All right. So then you would be this new teeth. Yeah. Like not to see that. That's probably a problem. Alright, so then you would be like, oh my god, something's going on here. But then I got ultra possessive about it. It was like, I don't want you to touch it. That's probably sign that that's the problem that you've got. So what do you do? Then demonic obsession. Right.

Yeah. What do you do? Do you write a strongly word letter to treat? I probably do follow your mother because I know she goes to church. Yes. So that she could drag you to a priest and get you Exercise or blessed anyways It's because you're obsessed with a cursed item. It's not good. You are a bit obsessed though. Yeah I think I should why don't we get your mom on the phone at the priest talk to her I could my mom my mom is in the air flying right now. Oh, yeah, I was I like the poll come tonight. Yeah, but she's just not get up here. Yeah, what's with the white smoke in the black smoke? When did that start like when they announced the new pope or don't I think that's been going on for hundreds of years?

It is cool, right? Yeah, it is cool when they started I think when they start locking in the cysteine chapel. That's one. Yeah, why don't we do something like that like when we announce a new episode like decklin puts up some white smoke digital What like a digital smoke? Yeah, that'd be great on Twitter Oh, they know what's the Catholic Church's stance on a double dogs yummy or blasphemous? I like a double dog myself. What about double ham? I like double ham double eggs. Yeah, that's It's all good tell them see they Zoom oh I like double X. Double X? Yeah, that too. It's all good. Tell them to see. Zoom.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Maybe it is affecting me. So I'm correct to label this inconclusive at the moment. I would say. Because you until you... Oh, I'm certainly an unexpert in Tibetan Buddhism. But like I said, if you Google Kapala Skull, but the legend accounted for that.

It doesn't look like any other copala skull Right, they say they botched it. We're a kind Wow. I mean did they botch it or like I guess what I'm saying is why would a Buddhist monk make it look unlike any other ones that they did unless he was under the influence oh Satanic monk He enhanced its power rather than detracting right Get him right. Yeah, did you know I read a Salvador Dolly who got exercise. He had a priest to or a monk or somebody. Well, he was very devout.

Do an exercise amount of it. But you see some painting. He gave him a painting thanks later on. Well, the Belting Clocks. Yeah. That's not very. He also did some very nice religious things to you, though. Dolly. But that's not very metal though, the melting clock.

Well, I think that was like after he got the devil's take an album, he started painting corny shit. Before that it was totally pre-exercism. He was doing some crazy paint stuff. Some stuff that would get you locked up. Oh, I know it. hit learn new something every day Yeah, you know, yeah, you hit learn something every day or for your information. Yes Do we have music for that too? I don't think so if we don't we should maybe some Wagner The pronunciation Pope Pius XII was convinced that Hitler was possessed and tried to exercise him long distance, obviously unsuccessfully

Really, how do you try to do that? Just try to read the prayers and have them apply to them. Do you think that's a reasonable explanation for Hitler? I In this I guess we didn't get into this but there is something that's called perfect possession where the individual wants to be possessed they I'd like the lady on a vector system. He was like begging to be possessed. Right, right. So this individual wants it, collaborates with it, is fine with it, and what reward could

they get on that? Get him what? So it's so cool. If we established before that Hitler kind of come back as a demon and the theory is that... No, I said he can't become a demon. He can't, okay, Hitler can't become a demon, but he was possessed by a demon. And when Hitler died, I mean that demon could come back and possess someone else.

Sure. Like, hey, Trump. Technically, return. No, the demon that possessed him. Yeah, I thought we, I thought we, I thought we always thought it was Trump. Yeah. We do have a friend. It's trumped. Yeah We do have a friend

Make stuff for that Christian wall comment. Yeah, look at these two over here. That's it. They've made me misunderstood that comment. It's a dangerous status I'm going to walk you both regained your status So I I I I denounce the alt right I just want to say that we have a friend who's He's possessed by a demon that calls itself Ghost Pussy. Now, Mr. Lando. It puts the fear into him. He doesn't want to join like Mr. Meener Tress Passing. That kind of thing. It's far from the perfect possession.

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