Tell Em Steve-Dave - #383: Mind Effer (Clean Version)

Episode Date: August 14, 2018

Dave from Monster Magnet drops by to talk about tons of shit. Music: Wild Kites - Pickpocket

Sometimes the titles are too saucy for my taste. And I still thought of it in their face. I'm not even kidding. Somebody please. Did you laugh? I'm not enjoying anything. What did it come out? Somebody else. Pretty reason. What the fuck was that? Oh!

Tell him, Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him, Steve Dave. I'm here with Brian Quinn. Hello. Hello. Here with Walt Flanagan. Hello. The only reason I'm saying this is because like everybody's up,

I don't think it's true, but like every episode is someone's first episode. Does somebody listen to 383? And that's their first episode, do you think? In the comic books, that was always the rank-dave that they said Everybody's comma could be their first. Yeah, it's true. You know, it's like yeah, I'll have to apologize Yeah, I just gave away 383

We haven't gotten it down, but yes Dave Windorf of Monster Magnet is here with us a rare treat Very rare. Oh, it's my pleasure. It's A rare treat. Yeah. A rare, a rare, a pleasure. It's so me too. It's rare, rare treat for me as well. Like, so every magnet song is their first song. Is there any song that you're like, I hope it's not that one? Because surely we have a hundred episodes or like, I hope that's not the first one.

I think that's it. Yeah, I'll take it where I can get it. Yeah. I am a slave to the listener. I like body surfing the wave. You know, whatever wave it is, I'll just go with it. I don't want to be in charge of the wave at all times. Yeah, buddy.

I mean, this happened. I make, you know, make anything happen. It's a bunch of shit. You kind of throw a pedal in the water and stuff happens and then you deal with it. So you think there's a ripple effect that like you do something that's gonna set other shit in motion and that's just the way. Yeah, and then you react to that and then you run up and try to change that. And then you make

that same mistake. And you fucking die. Yeah. Alright. It's fun to pretend you're in charge. That I'm good at. I made that happen. Well, I mean, as the guy, as Magnet, people would look at you and be like, he must be in charge of the band. Like you're the frontman, you're the, you write the lyrics, you write the music,

like you do everything. So you would look at you and be like, he's in charge. Practically speaking, yeah. But I mean, how much is that worth? And, you know, it's like really in the scheme of things, not that much, you know, it's like kind of being a manager of a, of a, a toy's our rest or something.

It's like, how happy are those guys? I'm the manager. You know, like at once, I've got to die. I would have thought that would have been the best job in the world, though. I think the guy that works for the manager probably has a better time because he has less responsibility and more time to go through the toys.

That would have been the best job because you could. Well, I mean, as a kid, man, you know, I mean, surrounded by toys, what could be better than that? You know, but as I got older and wiser, most of the time, like the actual manager himself is in a pool and his hair out waiting to get replaced. It's the guy that's right under him. That's not the best position. So like you're getting him. Yeah, you basically are the manager of like not a toy store but like a childhood love. Right, right. Yeah. One of the closest things we

have to toys are us right now. Right. Yeah, I guess nobody's happy being a manager at toys are us now. Now that they're gone right there. I guess nobody's happy being a manager at Toys are Us now. Now that they're gone, right Dave? I can't believe they're gone. Or maybe they are happy, they're like fucking thank God. Because they did it. Are you all gone? I didn't have what it took to say fucking

I'm walking away and doing something I actually want to do. So if you're forced into a situation where like you have to do it because we're closing the store. Yeah. And your life gets better. Yeah. And you're like 55're closing the store. Yeah, and your life gets better. Yeah, and you're like 55 and there's really no prospects. Like if I were to go try to get a real job right now, like can you imagine me going to apply for anything? I think you're good enough that's snowing people

though. That's true. You could snow anybody. Think about that all the time. It's not a long term. It's a long term. I mean, he's the kind of... 50 years. Yeah. No way I live another 50. So far so good. I was thinking about, you know, like, where would I get a job? The only place I think I would apply would be here. And then I might not even get that.

That would be amazing. All right, but... That would be amazing. Who goes? I think it's like a love. Come on now. No, not necessarily because Dave, I bet you didn't say much about comics. But that would be amazing who goes No, not necessarily because Dave know I bet you I know comics is Mike does but you're not gonna tell Dave like I'm gonna give him the grunt

I don't think it'd be amazing for me cuz I would be I would be so self-conscious of being about telling Dave what to do It would be I could even do it. I couldn't tell me what the goddamn do You don't want to hear it in the way that he told you. The way the world, I like you to back these. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's how he does have experience. Yeah. I mean, I think we were just wind up because of my, I would be in such awe of work inside by side with Dave and a comic star. I don't think we'd get anything done, but just talking about comics. I can talk it back pretty good. Damn fast. As fast as Mike. That damn it. The one that whole store myself when I did it. So I was my it's tactile.

What was your customer's customer service skills like though? We saw them. Why? There was times when... Every single time we went in, he was just strumming up. Yeah. Every single time. And at this point in our life,

are you willing to just pretend you care? I'll see that. That's where the problems come in. Not willing, can you even do it? Can you say you like something, just because the customer says they like it, because I have to. I have to say I love the latest. That's a movie. I do. I do. I do. Rather than argument and use a sale, I'll be like, you're right. It was awesome. There's no

spirited debate. Oh, no, they want to jam Bob's no spirit to date you are right Right Yeah You know the extra mile I do a lot of bulls-titting in my job too Great set And also the skill It is yeah, I think it would be just a matter of, you know, the pressure cooker building up to, to all tend to just go, you know what? You know what?

You are a fucking mutant. Like David's a champion. You're a mutant. Get out. And that happened when I worked at a store. Like, that's it. I've had it. You basically want to talk about Spider-Man's boots anymore.

You basically did that while you were here one day I don't know if you remember this, but you actually we had a regular customer That you had an argument kind of not an argument. That's too strong a word You had a spirited spirited discussion with and this person never came back It's basically you told them that they were an idiot and you did that you they didn't know what they were talking about I don't even know if you remember this he He was bashing the spirit movie, Frank Miller spirit movie. And you like tore him, you deconstructed him in front of everybody. And I was, it was very uncomfortable for me because I was like, oh boy.

What's in the scene? This guy buys a lot of stuff. Dave comes in like once he's twice a year. And he's a regular coming a regular coming and looking to the bargain bin here you nothing to the store you destroyed this guy and we never saw this guy again I'm so sorry that's okay I mean you're Dave Wendorf you could do that I didn't do it because of that no no you were you were you were passionate I was probably right too. Definitely. Definitely. I was the manager. I was in charge of it all the way.

All these viewers. All these consider we are talking in movies and stuff. It's a matter of opinion. And I don't think I would have gotten into that. You got personal quick. He called the McCun. You're saying this to a person, believe it. No, no, I remember, Mike would remember it too.

I was looking at Mike and he was looking at me and we're like, is Dave going to like just take this guy by the throat at a certain point and throw him out of the curb? He was, you were that angry at his suspicion that the spirit movie was was, you were that angry at his suspicion that the spirit movie was, was garbage. And you were in you, I guess you were defending, I guess some of the aspects of it. And I think I was defending it, it's, it's

badness. I was like, I have no, you know, the spirit movie is a few kind of minority on this one in the rest of the world. Yeah, but I remember, I remember this now, no, that you've ever seen the spirit. No, but I remember this now. No, she'd never seen a spirit. No, I guess it. It's the most, it's completely horrible. It's like a horrible movie, but it's well-intentioned and it's got this insane bent to it because it was kind

of made by an insane guy, Frank Miller. I think Frank Miller actually directed that, right? Yeah, right. Oh, he is coming off since city, and they gave him to do it every while. I think I Miller actually directed that right. Oh he is coming off since city and they gave him do it every while. I think I was defending the fact that it was such a genuine piece of madness that it should be looked on it like that, not just a bad movie. I mean, and you had this. Because it is a genuine piece of like of weird bad cinema. But the visual of seeing like, you know, Dave, the way he looks and this like little nerdy mousey dude and it was it was just like it was like Tyson versus like

I mean like you're I'm just on that your your knowledge and your ability to been that much. No, I mean, well, you're, I'm just on that your, your knowledge and your ability to form a sentence and, and to just talk about why you liked something with such passionate and knowledge. I have a guy told him that a walk out of this looking really. No, no, I totally wonder out of my two minutes. I've talked about for 15 minutes. I live four blocks from here. So the image is to me They got a corp I got a comic store and rip somebody a new asshole in school somebody You've never done you know what you've only done at once and you've never done it again though So I don't know I think it may just been a bad day or

Or you just came you just watch the movie and you just wanted to do I think that guy was out of that guy Yeah, and I probably did all you guys fast hole In his money Man, I swear I'll never I'll never know no no You know like I said it only happened at one time and you know, it's a great story I think people like that though like I think people they want to come into the store and do that I mean maybe not this maybe not this guy Is a tradition in the

Is that a pun like spirited debate about the spirit? Oh, no, it wasn't but you know I can't say it was Which one this one yeah, no, that's a T2 one. That's trisomy 21 down syndrome because my kid is down syndrome. Okay. Thanks for reminding me Yeah, I know not a camp somewhere. No, yeah, right. Yeah, there are a lot of survivors that are like, you don't have the right to wear that. I'm curious, you are in charge of things. And we have a big problem with people stealing from us.

Stealing ideas, stealing material. I think the show is a GSD makes the world takes. Oh yeah. Oh, I know where this is going. So when you find something, is this a sandbag? The worst kind of stuff a lot of people would say is I'm not getting some internal stuff. I think so. I think that's where it's headed. But the last few times you've tried the sandbag me and hasn't worked down for you. I think this one's gonna work. Is this some sort of joke? This is not a joke in practical or otherwise. Now we played a game called One True Three. Dave was on the very first episode.

We played it. You played it with Gidem, right? You guys did. No, no, it was just, it was very early on. He was the very first episode we introduced that Dave was on. We didn't call it that at that time, but... Yeah, listen or came up with that name. We stole it from him.

Little kids, then. Remember, you were like drinking McDonald's shakes and you were all sitting in the middle of it. Meals, yeah. Just, you were just complimenting us for the Mike's went hot, huh? So these are the impractical jokers, you've probably heard of them. And my aunt is one of them. Yeah, there you are.

And uh, oh, I know what this is. Yeah. Two box and a young. Two box and a young. And then it all fairness to cue when when faton says that you see cues face like what? Yeah, I did not know it was called I didn't know this was coming all I just showed up and I mean, okay So essentially yeah, it's a it's a one I think I think I say something in it Right there go back. Yeah, very familiar. I go this is very familiar this game

That's See I call it out I have a sticker book full of unicorns. Okay, so I agree with you. What was your what was your feeling Q did you want to do you want to kill the bit? No, no, I don't want to kill the bit. I wanted to preserve future lawsuits No, no, I don't want to kill the bit. I wanted to preserve future lawsuits. Not to merit. No, no, we're going to take a legal action. It's up to me who's feeling from who?

Everyone steals from us. It's something that arguably we did not make up. No, I won't have that. So it's a joke. It's been a yonk. Everyone plays this game though. It's two truths in a lie and you have to try to guess right we play Yeah, you put this so when I saw two bonks in a young And I saw he's expression when they brought it off. I was like that for best

Wow, he doesn't know he doesn't know what they're about to do. No, no, no, nothing right yonks And what is it? You and your boys, some of your boys stole and you weren't even. Yeah, I think Joey Patone stole it. Yeah, I think Joey Patone stole it. And after it went down, because I can see you making a stink face on that one video,

after it went down, did you mention anything? No, because like a true man. Because you're a boss. You're one of the four bosses. Yeah, we got to choose your battles and I thought this thing that will only add once in the history of television coming and going would be okay. If you say, that's a great swipe. I mean you can you can pat somebody in the back for a swipe. Yeah, just be like, you're right. But you didn't, did you? I

did nothing. I did nothing. I stood by and watched the world's world's world's surviving shows. That's why we're coming for you. That's why you're survivor and silver. There you go. Taking the bow. Taking no stands. Right, right. Commit to nothing. It's easier to sit on the fence. You don't want to be. It's comfortable. It's not for being lying dead on either side of it. Has anyone ever lifted some of your music? That's a big thing people being like, oh, this sounds like this. I can never hear it. I don't think my ears are musical. It gets lifted, but it's like I lift, so I mean music is something and comedy I expect too.

But what about Walt's new song, Space Guy? I would just say that, Homoosh. Yeah. So people people lifted from you. Lessor bands, no doubt? No, like bigger bands. In the beginning, see what happens is like there's a lifting thing, at least you used to go on in radio. When radio was so important that everybody get in on something, whatever kind of that zeitgeist was to come in there and suck up whatever zeitgeist is possible.

When some of it's actual homage and some of it's lifting, it really depends on who, you know, if it gets really bad, you bring it to a judge, you know. But yeah, I remember saying to myself, I'm going to swipe a lot, but I'm not going to swipe anything that's like older than, you know know anything that's younger than 20 years away. So I swiped from the past all the time but when we got signed and there was a kind of a thing going on I recognized and then confronted people about it in a happy way. I said did you get that and yeah it was like BC boys did it for sabotage.

Took from you to start. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, that was those are like, that's your lick from medicine. And I was like, I knew it. And I was happy. It's a great song. But yeah, and they didn't swipe it. It wasn't just, you know, a complete swipe. It was a little swipe. So that's acceptable though, like rap guys, well, she had all the time. Well, yeah, it's gone before it now. It's gone to the point where it's just like that I made that you know, it's like there's actually no finesse done with it at all, but I could always consider the compliment That's what we should do. I mean the jokers

Taken from telling Steve Dave. It's an honor, right? I like it look at it like that I I like it. Look at it like that. I'm gonna look at honor. And every time it happens, you should just blow up their feed with it. Thank you so much for stealing from us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Not too late. Still on Twitter. We're always willing to inspire and provide you with material. That's what we do here.

When you listen to the lead's Eplen shit, do you feel like Zeppelin should be paying up for those songs? Those, well, those guys, they're like the worst example of it all because it was just no, I mean, the stones did it, the beetles did it, everybody stole, but Zeppelin stole like wholeheartedly. They would like go the days of confused, you know, they were touring in, touring in 67, I think with the, in the yard, birds, and they went to in touring in 67 I think with the New York birds and went to this club in New York and saw this guy named Jake Holmes who was

so-called Dazed and Confused. And they just... And they just... They were like okay yeah it's ours now. Was it a black guy the original artist? No it was just like you know some dweeb you know it's kind of like a black guy, the original artist? No, it was just like, you know, some dweeb. You know, it was kind of like a comedy guy. It was kind of a comedy song called,

Daisy Confused, had like different lyrics, but the same title and still Daisy Confused, the whole bit. I'm in Daisy Confused for Lonely Nazi. And then like, I think what you hear in a half later, or two years later, like boom, Daisy Confused written by Led Zeppelin. But not nothing.

In 2018, we're still seeing the courts still litigate lawsuits against Led Zeppelin. Yeah. That band spirit, just had a thrown out recently. It's on Taurus, yeah. What was the Zeppelin song in question now? Do you know all pants? I stare way to heaven. It was stare way to heaven.

It's the money. You know, I mean, nobody would bother It was there way to heaven. It's the money, you know, I mean nobody would bother suing anybody over that stuff unless this stuff was making a continual amount of money. That's a pretty big heavy stream. But this many decades later, they're just like, all right, we're going to try to get some money

or if you think it was a, I mean, was there a legitimate argument? I mean, I listen to it, they had a YouTube thing. I listened. My ear can listened to it. They had a YouTube thing. I listened. My ear can't hear it. Not that close. No, no, and that was out of all the swipes that's up

to me. That was the one I was surprised went to court because they had a lot worse than that. I mean, they stole from Willie Dixon completely out. Jake Holmes completely, I mean, completely. Like, this is, this is mine now. That's like coming over and like taking your picture and saying this is I'm you, you know But the tourist one yeah, that confused me and then that somebody got it in there being their body And said you know something

Let's go attack the Levea on and get some money out of it, you know did it but it didn't work right? Well, they've got so much money to defend it that they could keep it tight up for a while, I imagine. Yeah, is that... Is that... Is that... Is that... Is that... Yeah, I mean...

People care about Zeppelin still? Like if they did a tour, let's say they use Jason Bond and people go, oh yeah. Yeah. Is what's his name still alive? The bassist? John Paul Jones, is he still alive? Yeah, Paul Jones. I feel like I would go see it.

I think there's certain there's certain acts that transcend time and space man and Zepon is one of them. Do you think like being like? He sold a lot of records back then too. I mean, there were cultural phenomena. Anything that's based, I would think anything that sold a certain amount had any kind of cultural impact that's More than 30 years old now. It's rare as henstie today. There's been partly any cultural impact of almost anything since then

That's why I wanted to add this less cultural impact of any kind of art arts just Lieing out nothing's coming back. So I mean you want it the real deal You're gonna have to go back to the time where it was a real deal. Do you think in the future we'll ever see an impact like like an album like I don't want to think it's like Thriller where it was like where it just was like everybody. It was everywhere. Now music comes out and like something big like that Beyonce album I was in Times Square and had a gigantic billboard for it, Beyonce, and her husband. NJZ. But, and I guess that's like the big thing. Why were you in Times Square?

I told my daughter in Times Square, she wanted to go to Times Square. To take a picture with a fucking Honduran Elmo. And to me, like she said, that's the main thing. What that means, but yeah, go ahead. It's like a lot of immigrants dress up as the characters. Oh, okay. Honduran Elmo. In my picture, yeah, it's like a lot of immigrants dress up as the characters. Oh, okay. Hondori and Elmo.

In my picture, yeah. It's like Wolf the Rock costume. Yeah, pretty bad costume smelly and a little like musseling and taking. But yeah, okay. But that's the biggest release, I guess, of the year and everybody's supposedly talking about it, she tells me. But I was trying to tell her, it's like, it's pale. I mean, you came as to use the word pale in comparison to what, like when we were growing up like, you can't even use like, you can it's pale. I mean you came to use the word pale in comparison to what like when we

were growing up you can't you can't use like you can't say pale you can't you can't I mean you you can't use light skinned. Pale doesn't cover it. It's not it's not anything like it. This is a total manufactured event. You know I mean Beyonce and all these big pop, they manufacture there. They have to manufacture the impression of some sort of cultural impact. There is no cultural impact in Beyonce. But do you ever see anything of its ilk ever again in time on that kind of scale like like I can't see it. If media is the same as it is now I can't say or anyone would even have the time to care it's like it's like a magic act you know it's like you can't want once everybody knows how it's how it's done and everyone's just waiting for the next big thing how could any next big thing

really be the next big thing everything is the next big thing and nothing is the next big thing it's just a big flat like a colander of content just streaming out People keep waiting for some cultural event to take over It already happened. It's called YouTube. It's because you know, it's called people would rather watch out a baby pissing on a monkey's head then listen to Beethoven, you know, there's more interesting. I think I look too, but

there's a lot of things to listen to. Yeah, and I could just say to an end watch. That's what I mean. It's like there's no time for imagined magic to happen in someone's head, and that's what all that stuff was. That we listened to when we were kids. And before that, it was imagined magic brought on by our, and we're actually really, really good music, and actually had a cultural impact because Media was slower at the time, so there was more. And we had a lot more old school way, old school taboos that had to be broken.

You know, guys with long hair, rock and roll sex between teenagers, that stuff wasn't talked about in the 50s and 40s and 30s. And before it wasn't talked about, so it was a big deal. Rock and Roll was pretty much a, and that whole mentality was, is a product of, of what was then a new way of looking at things. And now that that new way is, it's over, it's long over. Can you point to the date, you're like,

you can say, we can look at this date this year as it's old. The date of music. No, I wish, I wish, you know, I wish you could because. Is it the day that they introduced the home computer? Yeah, why not? So the 90s, the 90s killed everything. A broadband, when broadband hit, when everyone got it.

So I think that's, I think that's when the magic died. A new kind of magic was invented, but it's not nearly as fun as when you, when people almost hold themselves in a, in a themselves in a state of suspended disbelief, because they really don't know how it's going to work out. They imagine things. They have the time to listen to music and wonder what it means and only talk about it to people who know, who know that and people who they know. I mean, physically talk. They can't research anything. It's like there's a lot of time for that stuff to hit you and then boil up in your own

imagination. You go, this is the greatest thing I've ever heard. There's no one to knock it down right in front of your face and every second. You are wrong. Like a spirit. Now it's just like, it's hard. It's hard. I mean, kids can still do it, but I mean, well kids because they're brand new, they can still

be absolutely sure that there's magic happening. They haven't seen it. Which one of my kids we talking under? Well, that's where I was just about to say, what's a kid now? I mean, 12 legally? I'll tell you. What's a kid now? I mean, 12? Legally? I'll tell you. Yeah, that was like, it's like, man, it's hard.

I mean, like kids get, it's hard for them. So I only have this like strange, tween thing. That is thing, I mean, the whole tween thing is that's not the tweens I went to school with. That's not the tween I was. You know what I mean? When I was a twing I was still a kid. Now these people are like some other mutant breed. So-

Why are you for their own good? Or too dumb? No, I think they're just under a giant blanket of information. Could you please fit it into one of Walt Fox's please? Just one and too dumb. Yeah, I can't process it. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen.

You can set a salt and drug, please. If you work together day by day, all I would do is sit at your side just listening to this and I would do anything but just listen to Dave. We would talk. I do it every time because I love talking to this and I don't like I would do anything but just listen to Dave, you know, we were talking I do it every time because I love talking to you You always get me on a tender and like what? Okay, I'm sure you know I'm not to mention like fighting over George Tusker or something like They want I did bring up the fact that that time that you came in and kind of um I painted you in a kind of a bad light, but I'll paint you in a good light.

I still talk about the estate probably. Don't remember just like the fight. My two kids were here. I had to watch them one of the rare times. I watched them. Yeah. And you were in and I told them, I was in the back, it's like that guy right there up there. He's a musician. He's a rock star. And on prompted, you came back and you and my girls were sitting here and they go You just said to them. I don't know if you know this, but your dad's really cool and I still thought it in your face I'm like and I and I now I could show you are cool Well, I mean, they don't know now that I had I had validation I had I had somebody that they were like, you know, like was famous and who was in the music.

But to them, it was like, it was like, even though they didn't know who you were, I was able to show them like pictures and like albums and music. That was like a weekend of like, that's cool. Oh, well, it didn't last long. Yeah, sure. You just had a weekend. Yeah, but I still bring it up to them when they say that I'm not cool or I'm not a mother.

I feel like I was four. I don't care. You think if I tried to get it, I left it on a message machine, if probably it happens a much. I don't know. I don't know. I just do it.

I don't know if you remember me. That old guy, you know what? It's still cool. Well, you mean you look different. You say, if any guy that I had come in, that they had come in the contact with, you have, well, I guess not. He looks like a rockster.

Yeah, he looks so. It was so much more impactful than, like, briar cue saying it. It was like, not because they didn't. I've never said it won't work. I know, but you look the part. And everybody goes under the bus here, don't they? It was like, you know, it was as if Jagger had come in inside it. Not to them. They wouldn't care you.

The first one to be you. What? To you. Who would have been to them? To them, I guess it would be like if, if, um, at that point, like a Drake and one of the Drake and Josh kids. No way. Drake Bell. Yeah. If Drake Bell.

Wait, wait, we're talking musicians here. Not, he's a musician. He of the Drake and Josh kids. No way. Drake Bell. Yeah, if Drake Bell. Wait, wait, we're talking musicians here. He's a musician. No, we're talking, are you talking Drake, the actual R&B guy? No, no, no, no, I'm talking about the TV show, Nickelodeon. I did not know they were so excited by Drake, because I was just at a con with him.

I would have got that picture. You know, at that point when he said this, they would, no, no. Yeah, that would have been something that, like, it would have been the equivalent, like it would have been the equivalent if like the drape kid from the TV show come in and tell them that there to that was cool. But today, who would it have to be?

Oh, today, it would be some unknown singer that like, you know, they're into like these singers that no one's ever heard of, which is, you know, better than the homogenized. Yeah, well, yeah, there's just a couple of youngs. Yeah. And the last, the other you just keep going on Yeah, the Fats of the behug Oh shit, I forget I was gonna ask you that's a trick now is that they find their own singers like YouTube to YouTube thing

Yeah, yeah, and that's a very community-minded as well though. It's like there's a whole backstory There's a whole backstory to this and it's very manufactured. It's the new way to get hot if you're a singer. To go on YouTube? Yeah, well to run it as if you're a YouTuber, it used to be the thing. It's like, you know, if you're gonna run you go right to the record company,

you don't get signed and let them build you. But the kids are like savvy on credit. So what you do is you play it that way, you play it like, hey, nobody knows me. Meanwhile, everybody knows you. But not your mom and dad. This is constant fight to have something of yours and not everybody else knows about. The same old teenage thing. He just built it that way. And they're actually pretty well funded these guys. They say they play it poor, but it's not. How did you get your music played at first? Like when you went on, like when you first started

out and you first were played on the radio, was it a record company? Like I want to hear some stories about like Mafioso's like rough and people up or pay all. Yeah. Little pay all wet beaks. Yeah. Wet beaks. Yeah. Wet beaks. Yeah. Wet beaks. Beaks dripping. Just a little. No, I wish I had my most obvious story. It would have been interesting. I was fined to A&M records after independent, and after a bunch of independent records. Nobody got paid until I think, you know, I was on A&M

and I know there was some sort of pay-out in advertising, but they had cracked down on all that stuff by the time I got signed. There's a big scandal in the 60s and 70s. What did you watch vinyl on HBO? A little of it was kind of terrible. It was terrible? Yeah, I mean.

Did you think it was not representative of what it was? No, I mean, they got so many things wrong that it's time to turn me off, so I didn't make it to be... I mean, I'm sure the story was okay. Yeah, they didn't renew it for a second season. What was your, do you remember your first live performance on How Old You Were and if it were at a pool club by any chance? Yeah, I remember my first live performance with that, Schubert Public School on 35 up

there, so this little red brick building. It could have been like 1955, I mean, the building itself was probably built in 1901, but it looked like something out of like back to the future. You know, with that kind of dance, three sets, you know, something like 20 or 25, or you're doing like a combination of original and covers. What was one of the covers? Doose. Doose?

Oh, okay. So it's not 1955. No, no. It's like 1970. 1970. 1970. That's what he knows all about the 30s and 40s. So we did like KISS and Rush, Al's Cooper, Black Sabbath, Lou Reed, some Iggy in the Stooges, which was daring. That kind of stuff, and we just kept doing it. How would you rate your performance that first time? Terrified. But did you feel like... Confident? Yeah, I think I sang okay. So it didn't sound like you had a punctured

ear drum and a head cold. No, I think so. I kind of sang like I could sing those songs. I could say on key. I don't know how nuanced it was, but you know, I could... I knew when I was off key. How old were you? 17 maybe. A couple years ago. The second one was the best because that was a house party issues very where I took LSD Okay, and then while you played yeah, it was a big mistake. Oh, I want I felt outside of my being and I was separated from reality and I I think I was trapped on the night circle of fault Mm-hmm and trapped on the night circle of fault. And that happened to you, Lepenhold? Yeah, I could view myself from a high distance looking down,

and saw my vocal chords, my vocal emanations coming out like they look like fish. It was insane. It was, you know. How did you think you did like when you were watching yourself as a spectator? You know, I did really put it in a show biz kind of bracket at that point. I was just trying to maintain my the last stem of my sanity.

It was really insane. I mean, I didn't know where I was. I mean, I knew where I was, but I'm LSD's weird, you know, and it's not like anything else. So I just kind of waited for it to be over. And it was. How long did that take? Think about eight hours. Oh God.

We did mushrooms once, remember, and I was like throwing up for the first four hours. I'm watching TV by myself. It's been a long time, you know? It's a long time ago. Yeah, I was straddle down. It was awesome. I wasn't a stranger to tripping at that point,

but being in front of people, Yeah, I was a little down it was awesome. I wasn't a stranger to tripping at that point, but being in front of people That was I was a real stranger to it. I was like oh, what I was saying. I knew it's not a good idea to do But I'm like fucking I'll do it anyway. Well that was a good thing back then It was like yeah, you know, it's like take the plunge the whole thing was like if you're not supposed to do it do it It's very highly encouraged to eat here. No, no was like if you're not supposed to do it, do it. It's very highly incurrent. Elishti, cure. No, no, no. You're a lot better off.

Am I? Because I hear not. I've heard micro dosing LSD is the way to go. The, uh, the, I guess I'm comedian friends in L.A. Who give it to me and I never take it because I just feel with my age and I just haven't done it up until now. So what am I going to do? Start doing it. I'm not a big drug guy to begin with. Just feel with my age and I just haven't done it up until now. So what am I gonna start doing now? I'm not a big drug guy to begin with so it it

I always do it's one of the things I was kind of regret You're not done. I don't know your Greta huh? I would I don't think the 21st century is a good time to take So I could tell what is it look like on the cruise baby What is acid little pill? Oh this way well comes comes in many forms well Actually LSD is originally a powder made into a liquid Sometimes a liquid can be dripped on to sugar cubes Sometimes made into a tablet and sometimes dripped on little blotter paper That's when I took.

Is it possible that there are people out there that can take drugs and have absolutely no, like it doesn't affect them at all, no matter what happens? You mean they just won't get high into it? Yeah, they won't get high. Or maybe they were smoking shitty weed in 1987. No, no. I think Iuation like they I remember it and Matt gave me said then said it was that and I told it was LSD and I'd nothing happened You took it nothing comes to me. I'm graduation. I ain't nothing. I'm a happy them. I don't I smoke pot

Nothing has ever happened. I haven't done it since like you know since the 80s But nothing ever happened to me. I mean alcohol affected me but not but yeah I think they just gave you shitty stuff you know it's not possible that my my makeup is it could be your makeup a strong you know and if you're talking to go with that but you know what else do it's like end your cool just so stubborn that you just wouldn't allow it you're like you can't feel like it like I was that's just that't allow it. You're like, you can't really. Is it possible like it, like, I was just that, I'm like, I'm not gonna let it happen. I'm gonna just, like, line over my head.

If you can do that, you should be like the leader of the free world. I will not like it. LSD is not getting any further than my cerebellum. That's where it parks. It's gonna park there. It's not getting into the Madula. I feel like a lot of drugs are not like,

no, no, you don't. But I remember the other guys I was with, two guys I was with, there, it's not getting into the Madula. I feel like a lot of drugs are not like, no, no, you don't. But I remember the other guys I was with, two guys I was with, acting all like, acting fools. Acting like, yeah, like, and I'm like, they're acting the fool you are. You've got to stop, I don't know anything. You know, I mean, the way it was taught to me

back in the olden days was that sometimes it took, unless you're gonna do a massive amount, it took a little while for gonna do a massive amount, it took a little while for it to get in there. And it like with pot, like a lot of people didn't get a high the first time. We had to smoke it a couple times and it didn't. Yeah. Okay, so I only do like white. Never did anything and I just just smell gross and I just. So right now you're you're a little what's the word I'm looking for Q Stodgy As far as trying new shit. Let's say we're like

We know we're both Sanity big pussy We're the nursing home together. It's me and you and I'm like, hey man. I got some LSD I'm the first thing home together, it's me and you. And I'm like, hey man, I got some LSD. I, I, I, I, my point would you be like, fuck it, why not? I highly advise against it unless you're like out in nature or something, there's just too much information. Yeah. And LSD is like very powerful, powerful,

drug, and I went, it affects the id. It affects your id, your inner core. You know, you look at yourself, you stand up, you know, some people don't stand in front of the mirror and just like, what am I? Um, I don't need to look at you. It's not just, it's not just like you take daily affirmation, you take this stuff and see flowers and stuff. It's like, it's, you're being.

Yeah. It could go very, very wrong back then. I, all I could do is expect it to go very, very wrong today. There's just too much to, uh, an 80 year old. I can't imagine would have the, like, would it do for a tour? No, I would think it was just a matter of where your headspace was at. You know, good trip, bad trip. So if you're in a good headspace, you'd probably have a great time. I mean, there'd be moments, like any adventure, there's moments, there's scary moments.

That was part of the appeal of an LSD trip, but that there were scary moments, but it was quite, you know, crazy. But I just, I mean, today, I think there's so much information that I don't have anybody's in that good of a headspace. I don't think you can naturally, and if you pay attention to, and read all the stuff that's coming in at all times, I mean, if you want to pay attention pay attention to, and read all the stuff that's coming in at all times, I mean, if you wanna pay attention to the news, or anything like the news, and you wanna care, and you wanna, like, you really, really care,

there's just so much information. Then again, I could see a couple, you know, mutants watching Game of Thrones, and that's all they watch, and they'd be fine with Elisding. You feel like, oh, we're gonna binge watch Game of Thrones, I don't care about, you know, and they'd probably be fine. LSD. You feel like, oh, we're going to binge watch came of thrones. I don't care about you know, they'd probably be fine. That sounds right. I don't know.

I don't see these when they show their distants. Yeah, they do. They still do. Yeah, I don't know how many people do, but enough people do. LSD. Yeah, it sounds like every time in L.A. somebody gives me some. Antiquated.

Yeah, right. It's not the drug of choice anymore, right? Or could ever. No, I mean, it's, yeah, I hope. Yeah, right. It's not the drug of choice anymore, right? Or if it ever. No, I mean it's yeah, I hope it is the high different from mushrooms because I hallucinated really hard on mushrooms. Yeah, mushrooms is it's a Meloer. Yeah, LSD's we created more of the just more LSD is more. Yeah, yeah Lusherms legal or is it like illegal? Yeah, a lot of mushrooms legal or is it legal? It's illegal. Is, but isn't it just come from a can?

No, come to the food store and get it. No, it's a type of mushroom. Oh, right, but don't they just like ferment the can't like the ones I buy in the store? No, no, no, it's a specific type of mushroom. It's a different kind of mushroom. It's still a siren. Surely you've got to be one of these guys that's like,

what the fuck, It's a mushroom. What the fuck? It's weed. Like, come on already. As very Park Press, I was on the bail store the other day and I saw the headline was New Jersey has more busts for weed than any other state. Yeah, that's crazy. And that's, yeah.

Monmouth County being the highest or second highest. I thought it was the criminal counties. It's just weird. I think they want to give tickets. They want to generate revenue and shit like that. It's a whole thing. I did the long history of a law and order stand taken by governor after governor after governor.

That'll break like a twig. You watch in the course of like two years. You could go and all of a sudden, it's legal. Nobody cares. I mean, it's been waiting. Well, that's all people care about. It's also strange that we were just in California

where you can go to a store and, and you know, like a deli. Yes, the future's up. The future of the whole country. Cross the border into another state and it's like, now you're in trouble. Yeah, well, California is the future of the whole country. That's not necessarily a good thing

that everybody wants to just be high, I mean, I don't get high. No, you don't do anything. What's your face now? What's your drink beer? No, I don't drink. Little meth and I'll smoke. We could work together. We, I mean, we would have. How do you feel about a regular? I smoke cigarettes. That's my life. We could work on it. We can get you off that. Well, what's he on? Pepper cigarettes. I just run out of smoke come back in but you patch. Yeah, get you right patch. I'm trying to I'm brave. I'm helping get him break out of drinking How's that going? He's cutting down on his drinking So, you know working here is a would be obviously it's better than a rehab Like Mike's been sober for 20 years

I like it now. I don't like sober for 20 years? I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I mean, and I didn't get high for the longest time. I mean, I stopped getting high and drinking when I was around 24. And I went the whole time in Monster Man, except for a couple of times where I just decided to see what it was like to go absolutely fucking crazy in a rock band and get as high as I could, which was really fun, but impractical.

Um, and then, and then, and then, out of nowhere, when I was like 48, I got a dick to two prescription drugs. What kind of loser does that? No, it's really embarrassing. Yeah, it wasn't even like, look at me. I'm high. I was just like gobbling these pills. Give it to me. I was a young man of 42. So yeah, I was about the same age. Yeah, it's there's something always waiting. That's when life gets hard. That's when life does get.

Yeah, I'm in 42 now and it's you know you start to consider things that you would never consider you know I'm gonna fuck that you know I'm gonna fuck that I'm in consideration I'm going to fuck that out of that is I don't hold down like a you just lift that type of a skirt. I went to I was touring like a madman I went to I was touring like a madman And I Sleepers because I was too excited about what I was doing. I loved love the whole thing I love touring I like chasing girls. I love everything about it and and I didn't get high

So I had a lot of energy and I was healthy and I started for cigarette smoke about it like wrote You know anytime off I was riding my bike and I always say, I push up and stuff, I was, you know, considering all things considered a pretty healthy guy. But my thoughts, my enthusiasm was just too much for the, I just couldn't calm down like I would do a show and then I would just stay up all night and like chase girls around. I mean you know what else is there to do you know? I mean exciting places, there's new people, met new people, had fun and I just talk and talk and talk and my voice would go out and it would be nothing. So my whole

reason for being out there to be able to do all this stuff was being ruined by by fact that I was enjoying it I was like you just You're I was burning myself You know just burning candles at both ends or even without any drugs So you're saying that you were having so much fun. You felt guilty and that you shouldn't do no I was having so much fun Then I would wear the voice out. Oh, okay. You know?

So you're wrapping to the ladies. Yeah, it takes a lot out of it. Come on, get it, do it. Do it. No, come on. Just, um, no, it's just a blabbing. Just a blabbing. Wait a minute, you're gonna tell me about singing.

You're just talking literally you just talked too much. It was, yeah, they're singing and the talking and the staying awake. That's the only thing. I'm gonna have it any less week. When my throat was, yeah, they're singing and the talking and the staying awake. That's the only thing. I'm just only sleeping. When my throat was like that, that was just from talking. It's just talking to the worst, man, talking well,

and then you have to sing on top of that. So, and really what it came down to the sleep, I would sleep four to five hours a night, and that was it. And you do that for like six months in a row and you shot. I was just shot. I was like, eh, could I still talk? Sure. Could I sing? Yeah, but it's like that. It's sound and horrible. And I was like, this is this is it. I'm going to ruin myself. I'm going to ruin. I need to care about my body. It was like, I'm going to ruin the whole thing. I'm going to

bring the circus down. I love the circus, you know, that the thing that excited me about are still exciting to me today. And I realized that I got to do something about this. So I guess I could have gone a bunch of different ways. One, I could like work on my sleep and go to, you know, a sleep doctor. And I went to a sleep doctor. And the guy is like, is like just go to sleep You know have a drink and I was like no drink. I don't want to drink

The doctor recommended alcohol the guy said you maybe you have a couple of less to the wine and a wine spritzer and I tried it but it didn't it didn't work was enough I was trying to do it, but it didn't work, it wasn't enough. I was still too into it, as into it as I could be, and I couldn't figure it out. What to do? So I was like, well, better living through chemistry, and I went to a doctor, like a GP, and said, all right, here's my problem. I tore all I go into different time zones, that had a lot to do with it, too. I could went to different time zones all the time so I was a conscious data jet light

and I was so alive that I didn't know my body didn't know what time to sleep I need something to put me down like a wild animal you know I want to go down for seven hours a night that's what I that's why I took that purple hole exactly why you took it and I totally get you know, you looked into that. No, they didn't have that. But I mean, I totally get why he took it, you know, and I could see how I could go that far because once you start, don't have that play under for surgery. Yeah, yeah, I would have got that. That is these. Anyway, so I went to the sky and he's like here, take these.

He goes, this is what airplane pilot some basketball players take What here is this why he mentioned basketball players? This was in the early 90s. Okay, and this is in the first days This one is just being introduced that stuff. It was called to my it's called to my zapam is this stuff they make It's the stuff they make. It's an anxiety medic. It's like a benzo. But the tomatoes of Pam is a massive dose of benzo that's created to go into your system within 10 minutes and to basically leave, I mean, as far as benzos can really leave.

But basically, the high will be over within seven hours. So you're not walking around high. And that's all I wanted. And he got the stuff and it's the stuff they give to like psycho patients. He's like a basketball player. Anyway, I don't know why he brought that up. I think he thought it would impress me. He's in jail now, by the way. The doctor? Yeah. Wow. Oxey'sys bends us the whole bit. And this was the beginning of those days. This is when this whole oxy thing started and the whole this whole like crazy doctor prescribing comfort meds, pain meds like crazy. The FDA didn't do anything about it.

Now we're in the state now. So I took them because they were fantastic. And I never went over the prescription. They were fine, they were extremely powerful. And they didn't interrupt with my... The painkillers. No, I'm the painkillers, but the benzos. Okay. They didn't seem to affect my life at all until...

They did. They tried to stop taking them. I tried to stop taking them. I tried to stop taking them. And my mom was horrible. It just turned me into another person. When I went to rehab, they said the most difficult substance to get off of, or it depends as most people are, that's what they're there for.

Which I could never get into my ex-anx and shit, because it just always made me tired. I didn't like to be on tired all the time always made me tired I didn't like feel tired all the time exactly But they didn't make me tired because I was so hopped up on doing what I was doing Yeah, that it just it really actually it was the perfect drug for me. I felt I felt a little goofy. I went to sleep. I woke up had a cup of coffee. I didn't feel tired. I felt Really good like ready to go. I mean, got everything done. I went on a million tours and wrote albums and did everything and nothing seemed to, it didn't

seem to affect me any other way. Now that I look back, I probably did. Probably impaired by judgment. I was going to say, well, this taint your love of monster magnet music knowing now. Now, I assume that all the artists that I I admire and listen to are are that's the only way they can do what they're doing. So when you're listening to Tom Steve Davin you hear me talking. Well, you know, you're right on when you're hopped up. I was never hopped up when I rode anything. I always rode my, I believe you were hopped up. Now I never wrote when I was high.

I had to write in the morning when I'm, a couple of coffee, you know? At the worst stage, what album did you write? Like, where you, like, what? The album I put together on the withdrawal was Four-ray Diablo. But I never wrote anything. The only things I ever wrote,

high in my life, never made it onto a record, they're so horrible. So you couldn't even use the experience to like, like as a song or to like, now it's completely opposite. Now, all I wanted to do, that's why it's such an embarrassing addiction.

There was none of the glamour to, I mean, I couldn't even pretend I was Charlie Parker like shooting up heroin and blowing cool At Birdland at 58, you know, this was just like the guy wants to go to sleep Because he has a hard day at the songwriting factory tomorrow That's what it was No joy podcasting He took on a random on a random weekday.

On a random weekday. You gotta go to the podcast. 47 weeks out of the year. That's being kind of 47. Thank you. Can I ask you about your new album? I'm on my third job today. Somebody shoot me. Somebody just please shoot me. I'm not even kidding. Somebody please. Did you album this? I'm not even doing anything. What did it come out?

Somebody out? Pretty recently, right? Yeah. You like 5 months ago? How do you know? No less less feelings tell me about it before months ago I have some questions here that I came up with and also I I asked the listeners come up with some Some questions for some people who are who listen to us and were also you know, you look insane now Right, you know what you look like right right? But this stuff wrapped around you,

you're like, wires coming out of your head. And you look like the jewelers classes, right? These are dial vision glasses. You see them on, I've seen on TV. So you dial in, like as you're, no, let me see those things. Oh, for like, like, oh, I need to see a little bit clear. I could change the, as I grow older, I could change. This is what I've been waiting my whole life. I have a vision. Walmart.

Must have been on. Seven bucks. I must have been on. So you're in these. Wait. How much is the non-dial vision? Well, this will be the non-dial vision. I have to keep buying glasses. This one I'll never ever have. Forever. I'll never lose them. I wish I had to keep buying glasses. This one I'll never lose them. These will have forever. I'll never lose them. No dials. Brad, my point is if that's $7, how much of the regular one is?

Oh, they're cheap, too. Please tell me they dial together and not individually. We could close one eye and then you dial. And then you close the other on you dial, then you get the perfect vision. These two old men convincing each other they're cool. They're dialed vision. No way!

That technology exists. Yes. Last now, motherfucker, I'm gonna see you dialing in pretty damn soon I want to like a dial a cyclical See it on TV there you go I see it on TV. There you go. Where's the television end cap? Please, thank you. Um, it's going to look.

It's going to look. Yeah, they're, they were, I mean, the commercial stop though, which led me to believe I wonder if I'm damaging my eyes with my dial vision, but you know, you can reach it. Like I said, they were $7. I just looked this up. The title of the new album. The vision recall.

Mindfucker. Using the F word of the title, did you take a lot of consideration? Because it kind of. A little, a little, but it was like it just seemed like I wanted to. I was like, I was like, yeah, I want to call a record,

Mindfucker, it's fucking a long one. And you can. Yeah, and that's really ultimately, I was like, I can. What I got to to what I'm not gonna be on the radio yeah I heard you on the radio and I thought it was strange because they couldn't say the name of the album like mind death for mind death for and I'm like so I heard you on the rat and they know they could say the name of the album and I'm just like did you consider the fact

that nobody would be able to say the name of the album anywhere? The only thing I considered was mind-wred. Record stores, I considered. So, when I decided to call it Mindfucker, for completely juvenile, ridiculous reasons, and very beevisoned butt head like, fuck it, I'm gonna call it Mindfucker, because it's Mindfucker because it's Mindfucker. You know what I mean? It's fucking Mindfucker, dude, and It just anything less than that just didn't seem to make sense to me It's so I made that decision based on that you you know made that decision based on Basic Juvenile. Yeah, did you have the what were you? Are you the sole?

Decider of that like you you may have I don't think I don't think anybody else would, you know, they're like, really? Um, so I thought about it. So you do like to be a control. No, I had to explain to him that it, why I didn't have to explain, they completely understand.

The world is not the same place that it used to be for music and for a lot of other things. Nobody cares, everybody cares, what does it matter? It's not like I'm gonna make a lot of money if I name a record-mind-fucker, let's go, everybody. Let's rock. You really think they did this is gonna you know. Was that the only alternative? Let's go everybody. You should definitely need your next album. You got to be your next album. Let's go everybody. Let's rock. Okay, everybody. Let's rock or don't. It's okay. It'll be nice on the night side. Oh, you don't have to. I wanted to call something Mindfucker because it was just cool to say Mindfucker. And I knew also

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And men and women relationships, sex, sexual attraction, all those great mysteries of life that no one has ever figured out, no one ever will. Most of that me to the me to stuff is seems to sit in again, like well educated, well-meaning people who seem to be trying to deny some of the mysteries of life and trying to capture some sanity here and there in an age of insanity. Of insanity. People are trying madly to find a villain somewhere. And what better villain than like Harvey Weinstein guys like one of the best of each like a Nazi, you know, he's like in the scheme of villains is like well there's the Nazi pig and then there's the Hollywood producer, you know, the pig producer. He's an honestly bad guy. And they want it. But with the internet, people tend to like, well, you take their chances and the next thing you know, if people are

hurling rotten tomatoes from 25 years ago, uncoroperated, you know, rotten tomatoes, and letting the public make up their mind. But it's interesting to note that it's only in entertainment industry where this thing is holding any water, because there's too much cowards to stand up for anybody anyway. Well, I think people are more interested too. And like, oh, I want to see this actor get taken down or this famous person I like it taken down rather than like Joe Schmo from an office who coos to Secretary 20 years ago. Well, that's absolutely true.

Right. Yeah. And that'll, no, nobody's going to write about that guy. No, I don't think they're right about that guy because it doesn't fit into the, there's too many gray areas and it's not that interesting. And again, with Americans and myself included in all of us. We grew up watching stereotypes have been in print, it's been so long that this is just

another stereotype and naturally we like to see it play out in a more exciting way than just in a movie. We really, we want to see the real Hollywood theme go down. We want to see real people go down. You know, we want to see them go down. We like it when it's nice and simple. And the internet can't really bear right now. They think well it can bear a bunch of It can bear Areas of gray shades of gray

nuance, but it doesn't want to it seems the internet wants especially in this case and most cases heroes Villains and victims That we can get that we understand give me a hero a hero, give me a villain, give me a victim. If there's any kind of like a gray area between though, this person's kind of good, it's like, it doesn't work that good for the narrative. So something like me too, could go for a long way. Heroes versus villains. And put the way the internet goes, this non-stop thing is, there's not much talk about when people are wrong about it.

Oh no, the retractions are few and far between. But a lot of collateral damage. Yeah, I mean, the things that I've heard a lot of them have been like, well, I think this guy deserves to get taken down. But when you're giving equal gravity to like say Harvey Weinstein and James gun making that's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean.

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That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. because we just don't have time. We can't separate. We don't have internet time or notages to help our movement, our well-meaning movement, to see you at any other, any other way than as bad as this guy. Tough luck. Every month, you know, we gotta take, you gotta take some hits for the revolution. It's nice to see some people come out

and defend James Gunn, though, and be like, come on. Like, they are weird tweets, but what's his name? I don't think it was Rubio. It was one of those religious political guys who was like, well, you know, we should be investigating these tweets to see if they're true because if they are, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, so what? Now you're going to investigate everyone who puts up a fucking tweet. Well, they can investigate all they want, you know?

I mean, it's like it's more investigations. It's the whole thing would be a bit over. But I don't think nobody really in this crazy world of Almost like idealism over actual fact and both sides have it to write definitely have it and the far left have it too Good next bad next everyone It really don't have the time to actually suss the facts out. They just want to find the information

that can weaponize their next attack against each other. Hardwick was a good example of that. Where did somebody really start? Fuckin hard, right? That before bastard. He just got his job back. Good one. You're guilty of being an asshole.

Being a bad boy for? Yeah, or not even. Or like who's to know if he was a bad boy for another not what is the word of some ex girlfriend. I'd be up the river a billion times. Was that you trust every ex girlfriend to not meet you the shit idea? No. You like they've made a joke back in 1976.

Now I make the worst jokes in the world. My my sense of humor is very very dark and, and it's just like way over the top, you know. And you don't have to care. What? It's good because you don't have to care about it. Well, no, well, I do. I mean, I can't.

Put your name in Album's Mindfucker. Like, you can probably make some off-color jokes. People are going to complain. What do you want? What do you want from me? You bought a tiger, right? So you use the... Yeah, it's a weird world, and it's very uncomfortable. What do you want from me? You bought a tiger right so you the Yeah, it's a weird world and it's very uncomfortable and it makes a lot of people

Worry about stuff that I think they shouldn't have to like it's putting a lot of girls It's putting a lot of women in a spot where they have to not even trust their common sense anymore This thing is telling them that your common sense is not good enough. You have to, perhaps you'd be better to listen to our common sense. This collective common sense. You didn't know this was offensive. You didn't know that you should be upset by this. Right. I don't really do.

Like, you, unfortunately, dear, you've been very dumb and you're common sense in working, you really gonna have to look out for more problems. It's your duty as a good person and a woman to start changing the future. According to this kind of loose idealism or idealism or group of facts or whatever whatever that push is coming from this loose me to movement You're gonna have you should they're not telling you have to but you should adhere to this and Just basically be on your guard at all times, but you're still is a good idea But not to the point where nobody has any trust in anybody else That's a point where you don't want to talk to people because you're like

No, I've seen I've some women like this. They're just You know, I'm like calm down You know, so it was a rocker. That's not a challenge like they have that push on. You're not like I'm gonna Tarpa. Yeah, tarpa with a softener And you know, this is kind of a small thing. So just only in certain groups of people. Yeah. I don't think it goes in, it's certainly not in Europe. No.

I find, if I'm not online, about two years ago, I stopped paying attention to the news as much as I possibly could and online. I don't know, go on as much. So my interactions with people are mostly just in person. Right. So you realize how far that stuff really goes. It doesn't ever come up. So my interactions with people are mostly just in person. Right. So you realize how far that stuff really goes. It doesn't ever comes up.

It nobody has problems with each other. Everybody gets along like it's crazy. It's like this two different realities going on. I find like if you're online, just everybody's at everybody's neck. And if you're not online, I don't have a single problem with anybody. Nobody has problems with me It's not good to know because that's a way to read it. That's the way I feel too. Yeah, read it

No, I don't read it. It's the thing that sent me off line Read it was a thing. Do you ever look up yourself on Reddit? See what people are saying about you I don't spend too much time on red I did you know I'd go in every once in a while. I stick my face in the furnace Yeah, you know if I want to stick my face in a fan I'll go in every once in a while. I stick my face in the furnace. Yeah, if I want to stick my face in a fan I'll go on reddit. Why do you have to name it mind effort? But yeah About a couple can I ask you about a couple of strongs on the album? Do you enjoy when listeners try to interpret a song?

That's the best. Oh, it's the best. OK, good. I'm glad I did it then. Drowning. There's three songs I put on my deferred that I put as all time. Some of the best songs you've ever done. I really, at their top 10, I love them.

It's drowning is one of them. I'm God and all day midnight. Now on drowning, you, is this song about somebody who, no matter what happens, no matter what they get, they're never going to be happy and they just want to have somebody to blame. That's exactly what the whole thing is. I knew it. I got to show it to you. I was talking to Pepe. He's like, what was this now? I'm just interpreting, interpreting songs. Okay. And I got it right. The first you got to write which one. It was called drowning. Mm-hmm. It's got it's a really great song.

It starts off slow. I love the tempo and then when it goes into the forest it just gets heavy. And it's about like I could have everything that I ever need. But I'm still not going to be happy. And it's your fault. Yeah, looking for somebody to blame. You know, I always have everything that I ever need, but I'm still not gonna be happy and it's your fault. Yeah, looking for somebody to blame. You know, I always have somebody to blame. I could have everything I need. I could have all the money in the world. I could have, I could be content.

I'm not gonna be happy and the reason is, well, it's your fault. It's gotta be something. It's not my fault. It's gotta be somebody else's fault. Please let it be, I'm, I mean, it's, I mean, the verses there are like a little personal story about me talking to a girl, but The chorus is just like who do you got to blame? I'll blame Jesus. I'll, you know, I'm like blaming God

Well, I want to talk to you. I'll bring it in. You know, bring it in. You mentioned Jesus God a lot in the songs Why is that? It's a good guy to blame. It's like outer space. It's like when you got nothing else, maybe there's something I don't quite understand, or maybe there's some person holding some sort of authority or some sort of moral superiority that I can blame. Like, well, I tried.

I'm always screaming at God in a song. It's like, why didn't you help me? Well, the other song I love on the album is called, I'm God. I think the lyrics are some of your best lyrics. I love the lyrics, especially this one line that really provoked a lot of thought in me was, all you slabs got a lot to learn

and the end of times is all you deserve. It's God talking to humanity. And it really made me go. I mean, you're talking about you. Or Dave talking to chicks who aren't choice. You're like, and it made me think like as a species, I don't know if we don't deserve the end of times. The way we treat people, the way that we hate each other

on the internet, the way, and let alone, let alone those atrocities we commit on each other physically, but my God, the way we hate each other on the internet the way and let alone let it let it what those are small we commit on each other Physically, but my god the way we treat each other very nasty man very very petty and nasty and like way below us I mean look at where we are 2018 and we're acting like like little fucking girls Disgusting do you think do you guys like if it was the end of times it was tomorrow? What do you how do you think this human race would? Fair would fair and God's eyes and probably not that well

I think this did be like a good 10% of people that made the cut just 10% of all the billions people in the world I think so. Yeah What do you think Brian? It may be more than 10% because people who are you know religious or go to church aren't necessarily the nicest people. So I'm like I can say it's just going to be all religious people. Right. I'm saying they may not have to cut either. They're maybe some people who are religious. You also have to I guess give way to the to children. I got what age are they responsible for there? What are we talking about here because old testament new testament God

Yeah, I'm God I'm old testament God. Yeah, he's breathing fire. That's what I'm going by like A lake of faith. No, he's riding a river flame What God is old testament. He's yeah fire and brimstone and I think that sick of all you mother-buggers But a lot of religious groups should adopt your song on God because I think a lot of people try to like make God cheery and everything, but I think we need to bring back. You know God can fuck you over if you're not paying if you're not toe in the line. It's true. I mean, what if that be something though, if like that song is a hymn like you go to church and you have to sing a magnet song. song is it him like you go to church and you have to sing a magnet song. We're playing.

They're gonna sing about it. Well, it's really, it's a parent thing too. You know, it's like, I'm treating God as if he's like parents of a bunch of kids. And he's given the kids, you know, he wakes up and he goes, hey, your kids have been smoking a bed again, you know. What did that mean? It's smoking a bed is like you got caught something doing really, really stupid and dangerous.

But in the line I'll again, I love the line where you say, I let you put nails in my feet and then you went and peed in my creek, right? Yeah, what was it? Yeah, great. Oh my God, they just said shivers down my spine. I'm not kidding around. I'm not kidding around.

I'm not kidding around. I'm not kidding around. I'm not kidding around. I was like, it's weird. It's like, I didn't take that long to write. It was like, I wasn't writing it. Who was writing it? I don't know, but I was just like,

with the balance, just like these words are like coming out of my head and I'm writing it down because you don't want to spend too much time writing lyrics because you second-guess yourself and then you're like, what is this cry? You know, it's brutal. I would not do it when you write material. You're just like, you know, it's brutal. I was not sure when you write material. You're just like, if I look at this anymore, I'm just going to pick it apart.

Also with lyrics, there are some great songs that if you were just to read the lyrics and not know the melody or the tune or how it was being sung, you'd be like, this shit is corny. It's really corny, but then, you know, you hear it and you're like, wow, it's actually pretty good. You and I was really hoping that you were going to sing that song when we saw you live,

but that didn't make the set list, not? It might the next time. It might the next time. The album was so new then, sometimes when I come out with two much new stuff live, the crowds like, let's just say you don't want to walk to ahead, to ahead of your shadow. You know? We had to record come out a while.

We had an opportunity come out a while. We had an opportunity not too long ago. We could have seen Slayer and Anthrax that showed at the PNC. Can't get Walt to go to it. Monster Magnet, we're there. Yes. He did not want to rock to the music style.

I'm so glad you guys came. I know, the lay of the come up and say hi And I don't want to be in We talked about it a lot of all day. You want to bother you? That's great. If there's anybody doesn't belong backstage It's this guy. I do not belong backstage at a rock concert. You would lose so much cred Oh, if I was back there Dude, I'm telling you you would like white bread coming through I was back there. Dude, I'm telling you, you had thought like white bread coming through.

What are you doing? He's frowning. He's frowning at everyone. I'm not sure if it's slapping drinks out of people's hands. Hey, what are you doing? All of welcome. Yeah, put it out. We also figured it's a home town show.

And those are always like, well, it was a nightmare. I mean, it was just like, for a lot of people there. That kind of a show. A lot of people. I mean, it was just like, for a lot of people, you know, that kind of passion. A lot of people. I have some listeners submitted questions. All right. If you could sing a duet with one artist, a live or dead, who would it be?

Wow, those are hard questions. Beyond sex. Beyond sex. What was that, Beyonce? Beyond sex. What a pairing. What did you be like? Oh my god. Amazing.

It was a serious attention. Yeah, and then bring some serious attention. Yeah, Beyonce. This album be called Mindfucker. It's not gonna be called Mindfucker is real. Um, this is a talk like that at all. Yeah. I've heard her talk.

I've heard her say I don't think I've ever heard her talk though. I mean, it's not that the deep south and the 80s. I've heard her talk though. I've heard her say I don't think I've ever heard her talk though. I mean, it's not that the deep south and the it's in hundreds. Oh, man, man. Oh, man, man. Take it away, most of them. Magnet.

Wow, I do it. I do it like you can see when any any artist alive or dead. It would have to be a girl. Um, yeah, who wants to see a doing what would have to be a girl Yeah, what's a sick at doing what I sit right next to a dude It's not 2018 on planet I mean, I don't mean like, you know, like there's gotta be like when like when Paul and John, but they would sing with the two different verses, right? That's true. Yeah, I didn't see it as like you guys were like, oh, 69 me up. But it's

a better I guess the word do it with Yeah, I guess the word do it with Throne yet, Nancy Sinatra 67 maybe That would be good. Yeah like boots or something like that. Yeah, that would be nice. I'd like to see where Dolly Parton That's I'd be something I do All right, so it's Part your microphone. Yeah, you it's really bad job You were free to do it. I thought it was done. That's why I didn't even look into it anymore. Okay. You were free to do it.

I thought it was done. That's why I didn't even look into it anymore. Okay. Do you have an iPod? Do I? Yeah. Sure. Do you have any guilty pleasure songs in an iPod that you wouldn't want any other band members

to hear? Crazy love. I came out of the closet with that a long time ago. So it's like my my my My love of music is pretty well known to be just completely ridiculous retarded, you know for no reason at all You know Although they're yeah, there were things. I guess that everybody would draw the line right You would be like that with that like a listener like somebody who was like the biggest monster magnet fan would be like you know your

Yeah, like would like but thanks. You're like the like you know Hard rock and then they would and if they got backstage I heard you like chilling out to this song That's the west side story soundtrack Oh, yeah, no, I actually do I happen to show tunes using that's where I am in draw the line Show tunes I'm into it That's where I even draw the line. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot.

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It's horrible when you when you go out there and you're like there's nothing I feel yeah Well, it doesn't feel it's horrible There's nothing new for me, you know, except I like one of like, well, like, it's one of my favorite artists puts something out then. Even sometimes it's not good. It's just like, my fun time just agree with you. Sometimes the titles are too saucy for my taste. titles are too explicit. This title should come with a warning. titles are too explicit. This title should come with a warning. You didn't offer like a like a clean version. No, not our version. Actually, we did. You're using your

dialed. You know, something like I offered a clean version to all the retailers right and nobody wanted it. No, because they because no, they can't sell clean versions anymore right? No, they don't want to. Yeah, it's like, they know they'll be able to sell the dirty version. Everybody wants a dirty version. Yeah, even though parents will say they want the choice, they know they're gonna let their kids buy the dirty version. Yeah, it's too bad out of the bag. Remember when fucking poison was a poison put out an album and the tongue was too long on the cover and they blacked out the tongue. We were insane as the country.

Oh yeah, fucking not open up and say ah wasn't it? Like we were slippery when went was another one. It was like they just blacked out so you just saw the eyes like what the fuck are we talking about? People spent time on that. A lot of time on that they did The people did you hate the PMRC back in the day? Or are you like? It was funny. I thought it was good for the industry. Yeah, I liked it I liked I liked the fact that they were overreacting. It was fun. Yeah, it was good. It was good for rock

I got a real interesting question here. I would love to hear this answer if you would consider it instead of just Well, I don't switch out these batteries real fast. Okay. So I hope that you'll give this next question some consideration and really, because I'm interested in the answer. And even if you say no, you never have maybe, what is this question? Why don't you say no? I think it's a big deal. Because it's, no, it's an interesting question.

It's an artist. We expect you to. Well, but I hope that you would like, let's say you never have considered it. But if you had to, like someone was like, give you like a shitload of money to make it, have you ever considered doing a concept album? Sure. shitload of money to make it. Have you ever considered doing a concept album?

Sure. Is that true? Or are you just saying it? No, I have. You know what? I'm sorry. Why not? That was a weird sort of reflection. Yeah, I did just out there.

You did. Yeah, but you, I just did. I did the relaxing one. So you don't trust them. Well, you had to be honest. That answer was not like, he was just like, he didn't know what to say. It's not like- You don't trust him. Well, you had to be honest. That answer was not like- he was just like- he didn't know what to say. It's like- Dave's like sure, well, took-

Uh-huh. Jot something down. I took it as like- he was like, yes, but not seriously. Not- I'm lying to you. I mean, I just- I mean, believe me, man, if I just went in- and just went in full geek, you know, if I just went on full geek, I could So in a concept of you would consider a geek move at this stage? Yeah, I think Well, because I think I'd be boring listener, it'd be like, and I hear another chapter in my story

Here's another chapter in my story here's another chapter that's between every single track that's why I'm not that's a concept album rock here's chapter one of my story the final chapter of the no you know it's it's a concept balance.

They're, but they're part of like rock lord. I mean, like the, they are. King Diamond is really good. But I, I couldn't do one without laughing. So it would be pretty funny. You know, I mean, it would be, it would be, that's even weird. It would have to come back on. I would have to make it like the fun.

I mean, because all I did was laugh at concept moments when I was a kid like Rick Waperman's journey to the center of the earth. It would have to be on that scale. It would have to be massive. But they see, I think that you don't. Science gets you stoner. I don't think you realize though, people who really love your music. I mean, like for me, if you announced you were in a concept album about space and time

and all that fucking great shit, and it was a double album, you would make it a triple album. I mean, people would be going like, it would be so excited though, because just your concept album would shatter. I think the concept of a concept album. Well, you flatter me because you imply that there's some wisdom at the end of this.

But believe me, there'll be no wisdom. There'll be no, like I would come up with a lousy probably a rotten story that's been told a million times before by writers all over the world and try to like what imparted through music I don't know I decided to tell a novel through music you know, I'm three albums No, but I could definitely stretch it out yeah I'm gonna have...

I could have a bonus disc or some sort of contest with like three different endings to the song. Three different songs. That would be a different ending. To some well, I mean, just like like thick as a brick. Just how it like there was no breaks in the songs. Like if you did something like that, I would eat it up. I would eat it up and it would just be, I don't know, I'm gonna tell you something I lied that that question wasn't from a listener Well, I want you to a concept house And because the brick at me and now I'm like, oh, yeah, okay I know every bit of that record.

I've listened to it so many times. Your sperm is in the gutter. Yeah, that's part of the album. That's what I was going to say. That's a lie from the album. You're not a declaration or a... Your sperm's in the gutter. You're wondering what I put.

You're on the right spin it out. If somebody was in the restroom the right spin it out. I don't know why you're on the right spin it out. Somebody was in the restroom. I don't run out. I don't know why you're on the right spin it out. You want to shame the bullfrog. No, I know that. You're a huge hell. You're not a big guy.

No more. On the other side, side two is like bullhead. You want to say good to what? You're a huge hell. Now, I know that in history is not kind to some people's concept albums. I know Kiss did one that is mocked. That's one of the worst albums of all time. Yeah, yeah, fantastically bad. But I think that like I don't know I mean I would just hope you wouldn't just like poo poo it and maybe

Cons I think it would be amazing. Maybe roll the dice and get into the pan. You know, fucking worst concept. concept. It's never too late. Right? Never too late to get a Dictionary prescription drugs. It's never too late. I'm gonna pass that. You're career with the concept.

It's done. But you tell stories. You're doing it next. But you tell stories. It's done by interpretation of egg- Edgar Allen's love to the Raven. You have to be, it's like, don't try to be pompous and like, but just like, embrace your storytelling. Because you tell amazing stories in these little songs. Yeah.

These short songs. But if you were to go like 15 minute song about, you know, never more. Never more. I would love it I know I know there's a lot of people that would just be like meeting it up like well you've been able to be a lot of people in the actual limitations of my talent yeah I don't like the stretches so then that you know you see the membrane yeah the first disc was pretty funny. I guess. Second one was laborious. Third one, I didn't know.

I just had to listen to it. Third one was just the plot of Lord of the Rings. He didn't even try and hide it. He called the fucking Hobbit, Frodo. I don't do the third album. Well, that's it. I'm just, I'm going to do interpretation of Orsonville's Citizen Kane as a writer. I'm just I'm gonna do I'm gonna do interpretation of

Orson will citizen Kane as a It's gotta be original. Yeah, I think it's gonna be original for like just like your Magnum opus Know what if Dave wanted you to Co write it. He wanted some lyrics from you. I don't I couldn't give him lyrics. I mean, I'm not impressed with the way he writes, but if he's like, you know, he's just bouncing stuff off me. Like, and he's just always gotta say, it's like planets. I'll need stuff.

I'm in. I'm in. You know, interstellar war. I mean, I would be like boom, boom, boom, boom. Give it to me now. I want to take it. I mean I would be like boom boom boom boom Give it to me now All right, so you're you're not put pulling it entirely but no, I'm actually pretty excited How to work on it

Scratching my chin You never ever cross your mind ever? Well no, I mean I've arranged songs, I've arranged songs. And the songs have been written. I wrote 90% of the stuff I write is written all at the same time. Like groups of songs. So there will be somewhat of a thematic continuation between some of them in these albums. And they could be, and I have people saying, that's kind of the concept out. I mean, I don't think really, but kind of.

I mean, there are certain themes that get revisited. Would you ever consider bringing, like, on the concept album, maybe bringing an orchestra too? I have to. Oh, I would have to fire off all the time i mean ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha disasters like pop-up. All right, and the fine, this one is from a listener, oh, this last one. Your whole rest are from you? Yeah.

Your thoughts on the rock and roll hall of fame and does an induction make you part of the establishment? You know, I never can figure out what's going on with that rock and roll of fame because it seemed like it would be a good idea but the way it's handled and the bands they leave out it's just really weird to me. It just seems I don't know what they're doing. I mean doesn't but doesn't induction just automatically just make you corporate? Kind of. Yeah. But I don't know. Rock and roll never seemed to something to me when I was a kid that would ever have anything like that. So it seemed like they'd try to put rock into some sort of sports mindset, you know, where...

And it's like it doesn't always fit, not with me. I mean, it never fit with me. So, you know, some of my favorite bands aren't in there, MC5. I don't know if they got inducted last year, but... They were up for a nomination. They were up for a nomination we actually helped on Jovi getting you did yeah we did a like you yeah we did a a plea we did a plea to listeners to to vote them in why in the world would you do that I know what you know I don't know why you kind of rallied me got me excited he's like that so low it's a local boy yeah I mean mean local boy who's got trillions of dollars Bunch are you fucking kidding me?

Jovy well Friends are friends with the family. Yeah, all right. There's a personal request No, no, I don't believe me. I don't I don't wow say as you will. Well, you don't think I mean he's got the He's got the come on that boy needs help. He's got to go. If we all pull together broken down on the road, come on, let's help him. Yeah, let's help. We need some help. Boy, but it's not like he could have got in with regard. He was going to be in regardless, right? Oh, you don't believe it was our commercial. I like the thing that we kind of in our small way.

We'd be fucked with us. I'm sure I'm not sure how, I'm sure how that operates there. Why some people get left out when some people don't, I'm sure there's political hyper. Well, yeah, it's got to be like the Oscars or something like that, you know, it's all politics. But yeah, I would guess that you know, once you're politics. But yeah, I would guess that, once you're in there, yeah, you're on that side of the fence. You kind of lose your... Yeah, but I don't remember anybody that's inducted

except upon Joving, but like, yeah, it's like it's not anything that's that I've seen like a thing. I'm sure all the bands that are on your, that you have, I'm sure Petty's in there. Yeah, I'm sure that like, you know, Koo, Alice Cooper band is in in there Yeah, Kis got in there Sure, but it's it's it's it would have mattered and it wouldn't affect me

Either way whether someone I like to is in there or not. I don't think the rock on the whole thing It is nearly as big as they think they are that's for sure You know what I mean? It's like what they're trying to be and what the fuck are they? I don't know why do they get to that's what I mean? It's like why they decided like again They're trying to move this a cultural Matter of opinion into a sports thing. I mean sports you can't deny you get stats You don't have stats. Well you got we got the album sales. Well, you got them sales But that doesn't mean they think we were to rock and roll. It's like, you know, there's got to be rock and roll was based on like, you know people liking Like and stuff whether I mean who let the dogs out was like one of the best-selling albums of the fucking decade

Are they in the hole who knows but but think about that that song was tremendously successful a novelty though It was a huge novelty I'm looking there's a there's a I mean obviously it's too many, but there's a hundred overlooked acts that like somebody who stands out to you bad company Alice and chains. We're not in there. They're not in their mega death do be brothers. How could it do be brothers? Nothing. That's insane. The two brothers should have been the first like class out. J. Guiles, Africa, Bombada. He was a little less than kids, African Momada. Yeah.

He was, right? I love him. I was probably going to hurt his chances. Yeah, I think the Juppie checker. Juppie checker's not in. And then he went out one hick, though. Doesn't matter. But I mean, he's Juppie checker.

He started rock, basically, right? I thought it was all right. Hall of fame, not all numbers. No, no, this was what who stole. This stuff, too. But this Chubby Checker had to catalog to get in. I know he's the name and he's got rock, wasn't, what was this big song?

The twist twist. When the twist again, don't forget. I mean, just be sure. He was a household name. I don't see why he's that. Household name, yes. A lot of people today would not know. He was a household name. I don't see why he's household name. Yes, but that's a lot of people today would not know. Chubby. I think I told your kids, Chubby Chubby.

No. No. The biggest extra friend you do the podcast about that. I don't know. For about 30 years. I think that's good. You know, that's pretty good. Chubby Chubby was recognized from the 50s, 60s and 70s. Would you accept it? If Tom Steve Dave does it again, we say we're going to do a grassroots effort. We'res to 60s and seven. Would you accept, uh, if, if, if Tom Steve Dave does it again, we say we're going to do a grassroots effort, we're going to get somebody and guaranteed.

Oh, would you turn it down? Or would you accept the, uh, nomination if you were, if they were to, to say you did monster man, it's going into the whole game. Wow. Would you turn it down? Well, these, no, I don't rock a roll fashion. I guess I could, I'm a seroton.

I feel like this might be good. I'm mind fuck. No. Fuck in my mind. What would be really cool with to accept it and then go there and then just throw it on the ground and smash it. Oh, it doesn't do people. It would but would people. Would they appreciate all these days? Yeah. What would they be like? Oh, that was poor form. And they'd be hashtagging like monster magnet, no. They definitely would be monster magnet. No, I mean, it wouldn't be for, you know,

for me to like gain mass acceptance. That's for sure. No, and but the people who do, do care about stuff would love it. Yeah, they would go, yeah, monster man went to the rock and the whole fame and the guy who do do care about stuff would yeah yeah mastermind went to the rock and the Hall of Fame and and the guy from mastermind like picked up the award and said this is bullshit it would be all over the place

that's for sure because they know it but they know it's kind of bullshit so everyone ODB rush the stage of the awards and fucking started declaring that Wu Tang was for the children yeah I was brilliant that's wait I remember that that was amazing.

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It's so attractive. It's so attractive. It's so attractive. It's so attractive. It's so attractive. It's so attractive or it's meant to sell more shit you know. I was just wanting to sell. Even when I was a little kid I was like what? I never, never, you know. People were really excited by the Academy Awards and I'm like who gives a fuck about

this joke? The boy has been a joke since the very beginning. I've read the history of the Academy Awards. It's a joke. It's like it's just a bunch of people slapping each other on the back and it says nothing and do nothing. And again, probably like you said, political and there's some money changing hands. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I thought they used to accuse Harvey of buying Oscar's ultrasonic. Really? You could have bought one for fucking clerks or clerks too, I thought, but never did. So when it like so now that you you released it out about a half a year ago, right? Yeah. How long does it take you to think ramp up? And when, when can we expect the follow up to mind, effort? When is this concept of?

The console. I'm talking about it. I should be, I should be writing it right now. Really? That quick. Yeah, because I've got, I know I've got stuff to do. Like mine, effort. Thank you.

Mine. Mine, effort still has to be supported. So I'm doing, you know, we're doing America tour and then another European tour in January. And then yet another European tour next summer as far as festival stuff and whatever I can get in there, Australia, South America or whatever. It's like you draw back the bow You know and you shoot that record like an arrow. Pigeon see how far it can go and you just tour around it And hope you know hope you can do it Stuff now, but of course I'm not You know in the couple months I had off between tours. I'm just riding my bicycle around like some crazed Vietnam veteran in the middle of the night

I've almost hit Dave on no less than three occasions I'm like who is this fucking like a ronser rodent Manly trying to keep you know this middle age and gut off. It's won't go. You know I'm saying get on the bike so I'll probably go back and just hit it, you know next year at some time and just do the whole thing just like mine Deffer All at once. I love that. I love that. I want. I want to see video of a show where that's what you're saying. You're not saying mine fucker You're not working the crowd. I'm like my deffer and everyone's like, wait, what? you're not saying minefucker you're not working the crowd. My deaf friend everyone's like, wait what?

But I was... I was some kids in the audience tonight. Welcome to Walmart Stadium. But I'm not blowing smoke though. I, uh, for listeners out there, if you're, I mean, pick up my deaf because it's, it's really good. And, uh, the last song is really good too. The hammer comes down.

I know all the songs. I know all the songs. I know all the songs and I listen to it. I've listened to this come out. I've listened to it initially for about 30 days straight. And then I went down to every third day. And now it's about like once a week. Dude, you're like, I fucking salute you. You're like the best guy in the world.

Thank you. It's like, uh, yeah. It's a murder, eh? That's what you look at that gutter one. What the fuck? It's sperm. It's sperm, it's sperm, it's the gutter. It's sperm, it's the neck up there.

Your love's in the sink. Yeah. That's the real line. Yeah. That's a mate. I mean, you know how that's so cool that you just sing a line on Tom Steve Dave? That's just fucking does so much for it. Just makes me feel so good to have you sing an actual line on our song. Did I ever give you the tape of that record Captain Lockheed in the Starlight? That's a pretty insane concept album.

You know I want to, I don't't know, did I ever tell a story? I mean, I told it on the, but I remember I was, I was, I was, I had just out of my mind, I was, there's so much I wanted Dave to be a part of the Christmas episode that I, I beg, not beggin', but I had, I went over and took a little bit of the scripted. And I went to Tim and I was like, I want to give Dave some crazy amount of money to sing one song. I remember the amount and I was like, we have that much. And you and I remember that you were panicked about insulting him.

Yeah, because I was just like, I wanted him to sing a song that I had written, I saw comics. And it was so I was so like I thought I was more to do I was like he's more to friend I was like you should ask him but what I'm gonna put it I did we did ask him and then he said he said no that's it though that's part of it you can't do it he's like I had to look boom yeah in the gutter next you despair yeah but I like that I like it I like that he said no and he's here now like yeah shoot straight people look I don't want to do it I'm not gonna do it for money

There's a million reasons I would say no to things beyond what you would ever think it would be Like putting my robotic arm back on or you know or you know trying to get out of some weird relationship or something There's a million reasons why I don't do things So we should answer it in this case it was Approach you with the with the offer again. No Would you like to see? Let's see. What do I get coming up this year? The relationship and this week? No every couple years. Okay. You never know. All right. But you reach out to me since you know the offers on the table.

You you can you can all you're you know my email. If you ever like, Hey, I'm interested. I'm telling you that. So I'd rather write a help laser comment. That's what I'd really want to do. Have you draw a help laser? Hell writer. Hell writer. Hell writer. Hell writer. I ask that's some. If you want to again, anything you you want to do I'm open to it What's the song the I I wrote a song As a joke it was like that kind of bombastic lyrics of like Of how ridiculous it would be like that I come To live something to inspire me since and but me since I wrote it I put elephant bell on

and I put the words I just substitute the words so you would have that that just put what you said me this whole thing no I didn't even get a chance to even tell you what you would have to do and uh... it was it was to the song elephant bell which is my favorite monster magazine tempest on fucking him. And I just put, I just took out the words about him, about him putting the words that would fit in there that were to I saw comics, which I don't even remember. I need lyrics right now.

I was just, I can sell comics to a blind man. I need, you know, I need your vision. Give me some vision or something. Okay. So I could be your trained fucking monkey. Christmas time. What else do you want me to do? You're not busy, are you? Sure. But then we give you the rights back to the soul. And you could put on the concept album. We give you the rights back to the rest of the three albums around that same

really blowing my mind. The people, the kids who sang that song actually went on to become kind of successful. Yeah, courage My love. Yeah, they said they said they sang the song. That's the one that Ming and Mike use for their podcast And they're like they do the whole warp tour thing and they tour like on the road I think it's because they sung I saw comics, but yeah, that this is at the The end of your life. You're like, I'm never doing anything ever again in music, then you hit me up. Okay. That'll work. That's on his bucket list.

There's a, okay, Walt, if you don't want to take LSD in the nursing home with me, it turns out to elderly German men escape to find their nursing home on Friday to attend the Wacken Open Air Heavy Metal Festival. Right? They found the aging metalheads at 3 a.m. the world's biggest heavy metal festival. That's huge. Then they were locked into the four-day festival so police escorted them home with the help of a taxi and a patrol car. Why the fuck are adults? Why can't they go? They might need print, they might not be have all their faculties. That's what it says. It says they appear days than disoriented. Yeah, no shit. They were taking drugs and wrong. Yeah, it's

like you have so much time left. Not a lot. Huh? Stay in that fucking nursing home. Stay in that day room. I don't know, dude. Tell me right now that's not optioned already by Disney. That little. A light in the hero and Morgan Freeman It's already a movie. Did they go there on little rascals? Of course Up the German highway Danzig Judas Priest hate breed in the flames running wild arch enemy That's it. I start losing track of metal bands. Any music really.

Like most of this stuff. Like, Vans warp tour, I don't know if they still do it, but when my niece went, I'm like 120 bands, don't know one of them. Literally do not know one band. I'm out of it. It's what happens. I'm out of it.

Well, it's a part of it. It happens just because of age and other. It's been a bunch of great bands coming up in the last bunch of years. It's different. It's not nobody shooting for the bleachers anymore. They're just like coming out with bands just to survive within their little niches. It's like nobody's really trying. It's weird. It's like rock hits and dead, but they certainly are acting like it is. It's it's you. What's that Greta van Fleet is that the band you read? Yeah, well likes them to know I said they were amazing the sound of that voice if that was a real voice

Yeah, little guy He's got the most amazing voice ever. I mean it looked like it was a fake video when I saw him singing because it like this little guy With that powerful of a voice like do you know. Just with shocking. Yeah, I guess it's a little bit like you know. Yeah. And he says a lot like Robert plan. I mean he says I'm just exactly like. But it would be better if he had some voice but no, no, no, no, I was gonna say when he said that rock is not dead, but we feel like I can like his he sure said Tom Steve name right. Just saying that was I knew yeah, that was That was a really poignant moment to go out. So replay it and say it Don't Steve now You know I'm gonna keep all that

Thanks Dave yeah, Dave you remain my favorite guest of all time every time you come in it's the best. It's a Christmas. Clean up nights and not get pressed, back those eyes and I miss, say you're trouble in nothing less, but I'm not good. Say those things that I want to, sweet sweet little nothings in mind, whatever it takes to distract, I'm here I ain't no pickpocket Oh pickpocket gotta wait this time Yeah, I ain't no pickpocket Run me by, I'm here I ain't no pickpocket Oh pickpocket gotta wait this time

Me, I ain't with my mind With my heart, let me nothing but sky I'm hard with my mind With my heart, we get so very before it starts I But I You are for your hand and I By the end you Wist me away with you We shouldn't Yeah, something is off But it's not enough to cut But I do, whisk me away with my shoes

Yeah, something is up, but it's not enough To cut all out of love Yeah, you're right, start your wandering I'm sure you've done this dance many times before And just as quick as the lights came up you're on On to the next thing someone won Pickpocket, oh pickpocket Run me by, I'm here I know Pickpocket, oh pickpocket

Got to wait this time, I'm here I am Pickpocket, oh pickpocket This time, yeah, yeah A pig park, yeah, a pig park, yeah Run it by, yeah, yeah I ain't no a pig park, yeah, a pig park, yeah Gotta wait this time, yeah I'm with my mind With my heart, let me know There's a sky, my mind, but my heart, yeah, it's over before it starts

How many pockets at your hands, many? How many fools at me, many men? How many pockets at your hands, many? Don't fool me once you are fooling me again. Pick five, yeah, pick my get Round me blind I'm here, I ain't no pick my get off Pick my get got away this time Behind me, I ain't no pick my get off

Pick my get off, pick my get Round me blind, I ain't no pick my head off, take my head Grab me right, I ain't no take my head off Take my head, gotta wait this time Be high with my mind In my heart, let me know they've got Hot hearts with my mine, but my heart's yet so very before it starts to hide This has been a production of Smodco Internet Radio. Sir, only at smodcast.com