Tell Em Steve-Dave - #451: I Buy Comics

Episode Date: August 23, 2020

Bry, Walt and Q bring a taste of Patreon.

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Or snakes sorry This week we're doing something a little different on Tellum's Steve Dave Sage. We're, um, or snakes, sorry. Uh, what we're doing is we're offering up an episode that would normally appear on Patreon. Do you know what Patreon is? Um, no. Patreon is what keeps you in hamburgers. It's kind of that is work. I mean, it is that is work. It's all he ever does.

Patreon stuff. Like when we make the videos and stuff like this, recordings, when we do the audio, that's all Patreon. So what we're doing this week is just showing people an episode that we do. It's called I Buy Comics. Do you dig it? Yes. Good. All you're thinking about is that party you're going to tonight, right? My friends. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

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Oh yeah. You'd be proud, proud to wear it. So, all right, well, we're not gonna take up everyone's time. We're gonna, we're going to sign off right here, let everybody listen to an episode of I Buy Comics with me, your buddy Walt Walt and your other buddy Q. Alright, let's listen in. Hello everybody and welcome to I Buy Comics, the Tellum Steve Dave Comick Focus podcast. I'm Brian Quinn with me as well, Flanagan and Brian Johnson.

Comics expert. There you go. Comic author. Yes. Star of the show Comick Men. I have a right to be at this table. So far has shown amazing restraint in these episodes. Oh, how glad I am to hear you boast like that.

You would not believe what is in store for this episode. Oh, yeah. Because I would have put your writing skills, your memory to the test today because we have a Combo quiz on this episode. And it's your portion of the quiz, Q. It's based on general comic book knowledge. Brian's portion of the quiz is based only

upon the comic books he's written. That's what he does better. If I recall the time frame that Brian was writing these comics, his mind was cloud yeah. That was some of them. Oh yeah, some of them. Cloudy? Yeah. So, what is it like when Cryptozoic Man,

I'd be real surprised if you remember. It was called Cryptozoic Man, right? Yeah, yeah. Boy. Yeah, so today's episode, Q, I thought we wouldn't focus on a series like we have in the past, but rather just have a real fun kind of like, OK.

Like, Ragtag, you know, fly by the seat of our pants kind of this is what kind of comments is rap comics. And I thought we'd kick it off before we get into the competition portion of the episode. I have 10 questions every comic book fan should ask themselves before they die. Oh nice like this. Alright, this is great. So I'm gonna ask you some questions. You tell me what you think. I'll tell you what what the my answers are and if Brian can if he feels he can weigh in and he has anything Pity to offer about these questions yet respectful All right cue question number one. Yes, what is the most money you have ever spent on a comic book?

Who most money you ever spent on a comic book. Oh. Just a single issue. Just a single issue. I bought, I think maybe like $20. $20, that's it? Yeah, back issue. You know what I like to do? This is, I like to go, you know, the, the, the, the grading with CGC. Yeah.

I like to, I like to buy like nine point nine of shitty comics that nobody cares about, but me. I did not know this. You have a collection of CGC, 999. And they're all, it's like Kyle Rainer's first appearance, like things that will never, nobody will love a give a shit about. Oh, wow. So you're going for the real diamonds and the rough.

I go for my heart. Okay. Over. Maybe, you know what, now that I mentioned it, I do have the first appearance of Ghost Rider. I might have paid. Marvel spotlight five. Yeah, well, no, the one where he, is that the cover?

The Mike Plugue one from the 70s. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Marvel spotlight five. You have a nine point? No, yeah, yeah, that's it. I have that. Yeah, Marvel spotlight five. Yes. You have a nine point? No, no, no, that's like, that's just, that's a, that, the nine point, the nine, the nine time boy, or the shitty ones that nobody cares about. Okay. That one I have, I'll look it up, but I have that. Oh my God, I cannot believe this. I'm about to crush you on how much I've paid for a one single comic book. Really? Yeah. I mean, maybe something else will come to me, but that, that's about it. I spent $250 on one single comic book. I mean maybe something else will come to me, but that's about it. I spent $250 on one single comic book. Which one? Elseworld's 80-page giant. It was the recalled comic book from

early 2000s. They pulped it, they said, and they were never going to release it because Super Baby was in a microwave. Oh right, I forgot about that. You have it. I bought it because it was only released in England. Some copies got out to the England distribution center Oh, so I can only buy it overseas. I didn't even have an eBay account I had to go to my mom's house because I didn't even have a computer Wow, she had a computer and we signed up for eBay and I didn't even know what I was gonna do She my mom was like so you have to pay for it and I'm gonna send you the comic She's like they're never gonna send you this comic book. You're gonna get you're gonna get snookered at a $250

You're a duped look at this pigeon cooling. I're gonna get snookered at a $250. You're a duped. Look at this pigeon, Cuyne. I was like, Ma, I gotta take a chance. I need this comic book in my collection. Yeah. So I sent a money order, a postal, internationally money order for $250. And I think maybe eight months later,

with air mail, I got else Rolls-Aid page giant. Jesus, you still have it today? No, I actually went and sold it for probably 50 bucks. Why? It went down and value so much, because they reprinted the microwave story. Oh, so it wasn't rare. Yeah.

The book didn't hold its value, and I got, you know, it's one of those ones right, took it on the chin. It's a speculator's market, man. Did you, at what point were you like, they're not going to send it? Like eight months or a lot. Yeah, I'm you, at what point were you like, they're not gonna send it? Like eight months or a lot. Yeah, I'm probably exaggerating,

but oh yeah, there was no tracking for it, but eventually it did show up though. Might as well, man, very first eBay purchase as well. Oh, that's a good story. I am going to send you a list of the comics that I have. This EGC? You're gonna be like, can you just take a picture of it?

I'll take a picture of it, yeah. Yeah, because we'll use it. Oh, yeah, put it on there. You're gonna be like, this is funny.. I'll take a picture Yeah, cuz we'll use it. Oh, yeah, put it on that you're gonna be like this is funny this guy's got it Fuck with this question to yes Do you remember your first ball book the first one wall book the book that was on a wall in a comic book store You walked in you're like I'm gonna buy that off the wall. I did a butter from you. I bought it from you. Hi, what was it? It was the Danger Girl hologram, the foil, the Chromium cover.

The Chromium cover, I bought it from you. That was some time ago. That was a 90s, 96, 97, 98 maybe. Yeah, well maybe I bought it from you. No, no, it was you, because it was, no, it was still in the old shop. Yeah. It was in the old shop, yeah.

It was Chromium covers, I were going for 100 bucks at one point. Yeah, what are they going for now? Not much. Not 100. I think I paid like 25, 25 hours for it, what about? Can you still find valuable books in this market? I'm not talking about Golden Age.

I'm talking about like current shit, like the way it goes. You get to remember. We're probably asking, you know, or are getting tinier and tinier during the pandemic. So you will see some books skyrocketing in value for quick windows though. Because windows open and closed so fast on current books.

And DC, now's the time. DC's fucking bloodbath over there. My first wall book, probably new Teen Titans number one, George Perez-Marco in 1980. I want to go back and buy all the new teen Titans because I started with issue 13 and I went to a comic store upstate New Jersey and that was my first wall book. Would you pay for that? Ten bucks? That's alright. Yeah, ten bucks.

Alright, the first time you speculated and purchased multiple copies of the same issue. That would be death of soup man. Really? I think I bought three copies of it. Three copies. Yeah. I've got to. Whatever Jim Hanley's allowed us. I still have. Yeah. Well, when I opened, that's why they begged them. So you had to buy one to not open. I think I I went to Jim Hanley's. They said there was like a limited three and I'll tear it up. The first time I speculated and purchased multiple copies was a book called The Mega Man. Number one.

Oh, Mega Man. Oh, Mega Man. It was Keith Giffin. Early Baxter Direct Sales Only comic book brought three copies. That book I looked it up today. That book is value is one dollar. It's less than cover price. Yeah.

Okay. Keith G less than cover price. Okay. Keep gif and man. Name a smell that's better than pulp. Better than pulp. Just see, you just mean when you say that, the smell of comics, just the smell of... To me, there's nothing like the smell of pulp. Is there something better that smells better? I mean, it smelled my body lotion right now, and I would say. I do love the smell of pulp I love the smell of pussy The older I get the more pulp starts winning yet the more pulp starts winning. Yeah.

Oh, I'm interested in a different type of pee these days. Yeah, because maybe they'll like get smells like grandma's attic. Yeah. Nothing smells sweeter. Maybe pussy does than grandma's attic does. Pussy does. My grandfather used to molest me in the addict, so I was he definitely smells sweeter.

All right. If you owned a comic book company, what license character are franchise would you pursue? You know, after a license? Oh, we're talking fantasy world here. Yeah You don't yeah, if you own the comic book company what license character are franchise would you pursue? And Nothing is off the market you have everything's up for grabs. Which one are you going for? I think I would be interested in, look, obviously my favorite Subiro Superman, but I think I'd be interested in getting like disused characters. No, no, I mean like I'm talking about like,

you know, a licensed. You don't want to go out of fucking business? Oh yeah, the thing you could just like tag, you could grab Spider-Man. You just said nothing was off the table. I thought you understood what I meant. I don't. The questions like you know a license franchise like the ghost fusters Is okay? Yeah, okay now I understand my little pony that you know these are things that are like licensed properties that you're going after Oh, that's okay. That's good huh? Well, that's a good question, All right, that's a good one. Got an answer before you die. No, I don't know.

It's gonna take me a second to think about that, I think. Because everything's been licensed. Well, yeah, but that's how you can take, let's say, you want to do your own version of the Ghostbusters, you can do it as well. Okay. You want Star Trek, you want Star Wars Terminator, Predator, Aliens.

Yeah, okay, I'm gonna go for it. I'm a little pony. I would say yeah, you're brony You don't I'd love to do I Like to do stories in the godfather universe Yeah, like a mobster comic that's about like Clemenzo or something like that like when they were young Yeah, you know, and they were coming up in little Italy and stuff like that I think you like might be able to do like a cool type of fucking crime story in that.

That'd be fun. That would be cool. What, right? I don't know how to sell that well. Well, that's, I mean, what if you did it in Warrish maybe? I think you'd have to like, I'm really go for it. Like do like a, like a hell blazer or a Warrish look. Well, they have superpowers these hitmen.

Do you show up, guys? I mean, you know, I do something crazy with them and like give them like radioactive. No, I think it would be interesting to keep it. I would also probably like to do, I would probably do Friday 13th. I think I could do some Jason, some good Jason's to it. I wrote a whole Jason movie script once.

He's gonna adapt it now. Yeah. If you get the property, if you go, if it was a new line. Well, now that they're all in fucking lawsuits now, that's the new lines out of business. Well, they're all in about one or another. It's probably dimensioned now.

It's all between Paramount and Warner Brothers. They have a lawsuit right now, so that's why you don't see any Jason. Not father. Oh, I think that there's, like, if they told me that Netflix was like doing a series about like the flashback, not the Michael Cori-Lone. I'm talking about the Vito and stuff like that.

I think there's tons of shit there. You could do some cool crime stories. So the number three is not considered canon. You can take it out of there. When was the last time you watched three? No, I watched one and two with Mary Beth. I was like, there's no point watching three. I would be honest with you.

I've watched three recently and It's not as bad as you remember really but it is still not good. It's not one and two. It's it they they right away Michael's hair Like no, you just keep the comb over like you look so weird. You can't separate him from patino in the third one um and I forgot about the hairdo and then you're like all right Well, Tom Hagen's not in the movie and then the actor who was commended, like they just rewrote the parts that with those characters and just gave them to other people

and you're like, it doesn't work. But there you go, what do you think? Okay, number six, you're the editor in chief at DC. Wait, did you answer? Oh, did I answer? No, I don't,'m yeah I mean I'd probably go with something like maybe Planet E-Apes. Yeah that'd be good. Yeah I'm a big ape sky still I still think there's a lot of potential in the ape's franchise. I am probably

gonna go Planet E-Apes. That's a good one. But you're the editor in chief at DC and you are green lighting another crisis. You have to decide on a method of suicide. What character are you killing to maximize profits and publicity? I tell you right now, I hate Barry Allen. I would kill him again. I would flash again. Him again. So Barry again gets knocked off again. That's a flash that's a good bullet in his first crash. I know and they never should have brought him back. It's a lay mass character. I would fucking kill him again. You wouldn't think that maybe Superman would maximize publicity and profits though?

No, because that wouldn't stick. I wish Barry Allen would stick. Okay. I say Harley Quinn too, right? Like would people like to see her guy? Harley Quinn would work too. I would be in no longer. Yeah, Harley Quinn would work too.

Yeah. That you're killing a woman character, female. So beloved too. You're all time favorite superhero costume. Look man, I love Superman. Old school. Yeah, Spider-Man, it's between me and Superman and Spider-Man. Okay.

Yeah. The worst all time cover gimmick,, you know like in the 90s See here's the here's the problem. I love those gimmicks. I Some of them are so give me a hologram give me an overpriced embossed I'm a chromium I was having this conversation the other day with someone I was like I 90s were like my fucking hooks in decade of reading comics like a maniac That's when it started late 80s

And so all that shit that ruined the industry I Love I'll take it all But you even like the poly bag with a trading card. That's bullshit. I'll give you that That was the or the scratch and sniff. No, I love that you love that to me. I'm like that so lame. I'm like it's I it's bad and a good way for me. I die cut cover. I'm a die cut cover. Oh, what I would do for a die. I would give, remember the Robin 2? They just put in a fucking square holiday. They even look good. They were just found ways to put a rectangle holograms on the cover. You're like, it looks like shit.

And it convinced people to buy 26 Five of the same issue. Well, I can terrible, but I love them. I do. I do. I love them. The best character to ever come about due to a fad So I mean, I'll throw some examples of a fad character's a dazzler disco craze. Yeah power man Kind of the black split, sure, black lightning again, other black exploitation, Shang Chi, and Iron Fist, the Kung Fu craze, the Japanese, Sun of Satan, Ghost Rider, the exorcist craze. Well, if it's Ghost Rider, then it's Ghost.

Oh, you know what? The Punisher would count on that too. The Punisher in America is a death wish craze. Yeah, I would say Punisher. Punisher is the best character that ever come about from a fan. In your opinion, in my opinion, yeah. That's a pretty strong choice. Yeah, that's a pretty good strong choice

Yeah, I'm a big shame chief fan. No, I love those I love those kung fu characters. Yeah, they're both valid Do you feel that the comic book? Industry has kind of like you know, we're a better than creating characters based off fads because they don't do it anymore Well, they they are they they create the fads now, so it's kind of hard, right? No, I'm talking about like they don't they don't create a character based upon a fed and another meeting all like vibe They don't bring up break dancing super heroes They seem to have been like we're better than that now. We don't do a bad character. I think something's lost I do

I feel like they should be like and this is why they really fuck social media man Oh, they oh, they tried with snowflake and fucking space and it was such a flop People like this is terrible, but you know give and speaking of Giffin you brought him up before He created Lobo Yeah, to to just be like to he created Lobo to be like fuck you this sucks He hates Lobo. He was like this is everything wrong with comics today I've heard I was like this is awesome So maybe she had back to doing fad comics.

And the final question in our, the 10 questions, every comic book family must ask themselves before they die. The best superpower to have in the sack. In the sack. I'm gonna go first. I think this is an obvious answer. Which is it?

I think it's whatever, whatever. And this is an obvious answer. Which is it? I think it's whatever, whatever. You want? Yeah, it's fantastic. I was like invisibility. Yeah, well you're getting there. I would say, I would say, would you abuse it?

In a good way. Yeah, nobody would be complaining. Yeah, I'd be like, what's the bad way that you can do it? That's like, I shape myself to look like your husband and you don't know it's not me. Like, that's the bad way. You know? Like, I leave out the back door and the husband comes in the front door and she's like,

that was great. And he's like, what was great? No. I would be a friend, I'd be like, look, this is the power I have. I was like, you want a fuck? Who you want a who you want fuck Abraham Lincoln boom Guess what this Abraham Lincoln has two decks

I Be like look I'm a pirate but my peg like this Why would you what we think it's gotta be it's gotta be, look, I'm a pirate, but my peg length is a dick. Wow, what will you, what will you think? It's gotta be, it's gotta be, it's gotta be. I mean, it's gotta be the power of elasticity. Yeah. Right? I mean, I mean, as a boy, what else is useful? I couldn't think of, well, maybe like,

maybe some heat, like, you know, you're, you know, I'm not giving a massage here, I'm trying to fuck, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the other powers like super strength that's not really gonna help you. No, no. Nope. It's making that big dick. Yeah, I mean, the other power is like super strength that's not really going to help you. No, no. It's making that big dick.

Yeah, I guess that's it. That's pretty much it. That's good. All right, so now... Which if you think about it that way, if a big dick is a superpower, then superheroes do walk amongst us. That's true. Yeah.

I don't consider it a superpower. Yeah. Guys with big dick still. So they're going for it. So they're going for it. I'll ask like someone to eat once. Bunny, you want to talk about underwear? Yeah.

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office world? I've always had that phantom, I just missed that. Any number of things one can fantasize about? Tom Brady's personal life. I just like to think, because I'm such an admirer and fan of Tom Brady. I bet you though, he is not his real personality, may be as cool as Jim helper, but I would like to think at the end of the day when that helmet comes off, his bangs come down like Jim and he's fucking doing pranks and he's working. And I'm like, I'm sorry, paper. And Andrew gets that rid of the super balls.

Hey, would you guys like some triple bond? I don't know. I would like to think he's professor loveve to Giselle and beautiful, romantic ways, and just playing pranks on like fucking fellowship and the grunk. And my head, that's my fantasy. I don't know what you guys fantasize about, but... Pim Pims. Now, that's quality content. Alright, let's get back to the show.

All right, so now we're ready for our comic book challenge portion of the episode. Oh, I love this. You versus Brian, you each will play for a listener. Okay. And up for grabs tonight. Q is a page of the comic book we worked on, Metro. All right. Well, you got some real deal fucking prizes. All right. We'll sign that some real deal fucking prizes here. You will sign that for it.

And if you win tonight's quiz, this is the beginning of issue two. Your listener is gonna get a autographed page of original art from Metro. Oh, nice. Brie, if you win, your listener is gonna get a page of autographed art from War of the Undead. Nice.

Wow, that's a good one. He's a fucking serious prizes. Right. And so Brie you are playing for Sandy Morgan. Sandy Morgan I recognize that name. Do you think she's on Twitter yeah. Okay and Q you are playing for Lisa jury. Alright Lisa got yeah. Alright so Sandy you know my record. He's my favorite character. Nice. All right. Like I said, you will be only quizzed upon the three books you wrote.

Karni, War the Undead and Cryptozoic, man. You don't need to know anything else about comic books other than those three books. The only one I've read recently is War the Undead. Stumbled across it. Oh, it's awesome. But Q, you will have all of Complic history to have to answer. Okay. All right, so we go with Q, you're up first.

You will have to put three comics in order of the most valuable to least valuable. Okay. I'm going to give you these three titles and you tell me which of the most valuable to least valuable. Okay. I'm gonna give you these three titles and you tell me which is the most valuable, which is the second most valuable, which is the least most valuable. Okay. New Mutants 98. Okay. Which is, do you know what that issue is?

No. The first appearance of Deadpool. Okay, gotcha. Amazing Spider-Man 300. That's black venom. It's the first appearance of full, full, first full appearance of Venom. Okay. And Batman 428, the death of Robin.

Hmm. Alright, so which one gets the top slot in your opinion? And this is all based on, we look this up on Overstreet Price Guide. This year's Overstreet Price Guide is where we got this information from. I want anybody calling to question Hmm our ethics here. I would say Okay, I think it's venom dead. Amazing spider-man 300 is it is gonna make you're putting that one in the top spot Yes, I have a do you want the reasoning? Yeah, okay, because here's the thing the Batman one was an event

Right, mm-hmm everybody knew it every new was coming so to me that makes it the least valuable because everybody everybody knew Deadpool did come out. I know where But a bit saturated as of late Deadpool's everywhere Venom is seems to be coming into some new level of popularity. I never had before Did you see the Venom movie? Yeah. Did you like it? I didn't. I like parts of it. Some of it were really, what they got right, they really got right.

What they did not get right, they really did not get right. So that's why I think Venom Deadpool. So you want amazing Spider-Man 300 in the most valuable slot. I will tell you that is correct. Oh great. Which one is that number two? Amazing Spider-Man 300 is the most valuable of the three I mentioned. The number two book you have as New Mutants 98,

first parents of Deadpool. I will tell you that is the second most valuable comic. Really? So I got it. And obviously then you also get Batman. 428 is the least valuable. Those totals, Mesa Spider-Man 300, 375. Okay. New Mutants 98, first parents of dead,

pull 315 dollars and Batman 428, the death of Jason Todd Robin, $45. So the second one was worth the most. The first one was worth second most. Third one was worth. What? Out of these. Yeah. Look at that shit. You these yeah yeah yeah yeah you got it right right you got it right you used to put me for Christ six watch me get this one wrong right you know uh who inked crypto so with man crypto soic man uh Wayne Jensen Jensen. Oh no he colored it. Oh, that's different. Chris Ivy inked it. So, cue you're up on your own. I have no idea who that is. Chris Ivy inked. He's the guy that lays the ink down the end of the ink. Okay. Colorist puts the colors in on a computer. Got you. Okay.

Okay. Wayne. Okay. Um, Wayne Janton. Q. We're going to have another most valuable to least valuable. Okay. Hulk 340. That Wolverine. That's the Wolverine Topic Farlin cover. Okay. Amazing Spider-Man 238 with tattoos insert. That's the first appearance of Hobgoblin. Okay. And Dark Knight returns first printing. Frank Miller's epic industry changing dark night returns. Okay, so did you just steal my pen? Yeah. All right, so it's um right down my answers. So it's so I can see if I get it. Well, I think the

Frank Miller's in the number one. Like the Frank Miller's in the number one. I think the Frank Miller's in the number one, okay. And then we'll walk me through the middle. Got the Hulk 340 with the classic Wolverine cover, with the claws. Wait, so it's not the first appearance of Wolverine. It's the first, it's the one right after. It's that cover, you know, where like he's got the claws and you can see the Hulk's reflection in his claws.

Yeah. Famous famous cover. Yes. Seen it a million times. Yeah, he's got the hair. He's reflection in his claws. Yeah, famous famous cover. Yes, seen in a million times. Yeah, he's got the hair. He's doing this shit. But that's not the first appearance of Wolverine. So I'm going to say that that's two.

And so dark. So dark night is in the most stable. But the tattoos things throwing me off. First appearance, hubgovern. Given who gives a fuck about hubgolin? But the tattoo thing makes it interesting. Yeah, the tattoos insert. This was an insert that was put into the comics that had the tattoos that you could remove. Kids were moving, they would put their tattoos on the floor. I still know that your beats will remain. Okay, so I'm going to say that's the third.

Okay, so what's coming at number one? That's dark night. Okay, and what's coming at number two, Hulk? Yep. And amazing Spider-Man 2.38. Okay, I will tell you this, Hulk 3.40 is the least valuable. Really? Coming in at $80. Wow. Amazing Spider-Man 2.38 with tattoos.

Is the most valuable. Coming in at 170. The fucking tattoos. And dark night returns was 125. First print. Wow. I didn't get that right. All right, Brian. All right. But I understand why I didn't. And dark night returns was 125 Didn't get that right All right, Brian, but I understand why then now you have an over street challenge Okay, you get these three comics you have to place them in order of most valuable to least carny number one

Or the undead number one or cryptozolic man number one, which is the most valuable comic you've written or crypto-zoic man number one which is the most valuable comic you've written. Hmm. I know crypto-zoic man shot up at first. Remember like somebody bought one CGC for like a thousand bucks? Oh, it was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. But we're going by regular prices, right? Not that those. What's it worth in 2020? Right. The over street. street those carny number two

that was hard to get I'm gonna say cryptozzoic man carny and then wore the undead so cryptozzoic man carny and then wore the undead and then wore the undead being the least valuable okay well I will take this. Cryptozoic man number one is the most valuable comic book you've ever read. I'm 18 dollars now. Really? That's pretty good.

That's what it puts at 18 dollars. That's a wall book. I have that. I'm going to tell you this. This one shocked me. Both carny and more of the undead are unlisted in over street. Oh, I even make the over street proof. Oh, my God. Oh my god. Oh my god. I want to ebay to get some numbers on that so we can play this game.

And were the undead number one comes in at $15? And Cardi number one comes in at $8.50. Wow. So I thought if Cardi would have been the... Cardi is the least valuable of the three cards. Hmm. All right. So I mixed up the last. So you don't get if it, if Rikarni would have been the... Karni is the least valuable of the three comics. Hmm, see, all right. So I mixed up the last two. You don't get that one right either.

So you're still in first place? All right, with one. And then finally, oh no, we don't have finally, then we have these three comics. This one's right in your wheelhouse. Okay. Spawn number one. Okay.

Young blood number one. Oh boy. And Wildcat's number one. I still think spawn has it. Okay, it's in the top spot. I think it's in the top spot. Uh, and then, hmm. Young blood being a Rob life. Yeah, I just never read young blood. So and people hate Rob life field these days, right? Am I correct about that? And Wildcats was the Jim Lee book. Yeah, Wildcats. I'm gonna say, spawn Wildcats, young blood.

This one was a trick question, and you got it right because spawn is the top book at $40. Yeah. Young blood and Wildcats are tied at $5. Oh, all right. So you get it correct, you've got two points. Ooh, you won't buy spawn number one, right? No, spawn number ones we buy all the time.

Oh, you do? Yeah, we flip them. We don't flip them for $40. We're never going to get $40. But we get it $15 worth every. Overstreet is historically overpriced, right? Well, sometimes they're very underpriced as well. It's hard for them to publish a yearly guide

and keep up with the trends. Brian, what year was Worthy undead published? Worthy undead. Um, 2005. Still not on the board. It was published in 2007. Oh, so close. I don't blame you for that one. It's hard. That's a rough one. You still talking 13 years. Still not on the board because they published in 2007. Oh I don't blame you for that one. It's hard. That's a rough one. He's still talking 13 years ago. I hardly remember a decade of my life

All right, I'm cue the final over street challenge. Yeah Sarabas number one Teenage Mutant Turtles number one or elf quest number one These are independent independent challenge rough White challenge. I'm gonna say oh fuck. I mean, I think T. M. N. T. Tears too clearly has to take it but I Fucking never read elf quest, so I never I never knew what anybody loved about it I don't know I know but I have to get into it there. It's just with the fucking yeah, so the service and it fucked them The I know so I'm gonna say I'm gonna say turtles service

Of course although probably on the rest of the meeting Alfa Quest because I think it's kind of lame But no you're right on the money my friendertles coming in at a whopping $7,000 for a credit. It is no chance that that wasn't it. Oh, seven grand for Tertles number one first printing. Coming in at number two, service number one at $3,000. Yeah. And Elf Quest taking the rear with $115. Yeah, what is Elf Quest even,

every time I open the book, I'm like, they look so annoying. These characters, what is the elf quest even? Every time I open the book, I'm like, they look so annoying these characters. Okay, what is this shit? The turtles, what do you think you can get for it? Number one, what you could get here? Yeah, like say somebody came in and bought it. Like, what do you think you could get? I wouldn't even try to sell it here.

I'd go right to eBay because, you know, if I'm, that's probably, you know, where you maximize your profits and the turtles number one. Brian, trying to get on the board here. Tryin'. Sorry, Sandy. What is the character Cryptozoic man's real name? I should know this.

I know I should know it. You don't know it? I don't know it. Dude, think about how long ago it was. I was so riddled with fucking drugs. It was, I know. It's why I'm not laughing as hard as well I know it's born of tragedy, but yeah, it was a dark dark time

Give me his initials. Maybe I can guess it I can't do that. Well, I won't count it won't count, but I don't I don't remember. A.O A.O Still don't know it still don't know it it. It was a dark time, man. Yeah. Alan? Alan... Partridge.

No, oh. I don't know. Why would I see... I should have made up a name I would remember. Oh, yeah. Ostman. Alan Ostman. What did that name come from? I don't know.

I don't even remember the name. Where the fuck came from? All right't know. I don't even remember the name, but where fucking came from? All right, cute. You have in here, you have to match. Oh, first appearances, the comic books to the characters first appearances. Oh, so we have the characters. Okay. Hellboy, rocket raccoon, machine man, moon knight,

new teen Titans and Howard to Duck. Wow. And they have the comics. Yeah, it's a dude, get all of them. So tell me what you think. Ooh, I'm not gonna nail this. This is, you're gonna see me fall apart on this one, but let me give it a shot. All right.

So, for the first character, who do you wanna grab? I'm gonna say machine man. Okay, that's one you really, let's go with the ones you really know. Well, so what the ones you really got a good beat on? Okay. Whoof.

How are the duck? You must know where he first appeared, right? I don't know if we can eliminate them. Well right here's DC right? No he's not in DC. Yeah we know he's not next man. Yeah we know he's not in the next one. Alright where we'll find night he's not in. No. So I'm gonna say Hulk. I know this one. I think. Hulk. Okay so match those together, put them together to the side and then we're gonna go in order so we so we I'm gonna I'm gonna do adventures into fear when you go adventures into fear. Yeah for how to duck okay, yeah

How adventures into fear 19? Yeah, how to duck first appearance? Okay, I'm gonna say machine man. Yes in next man Moon night and where we'll find night okay, that's right. That's right. I got right so far. Okay I'm gonna give you two chance I'm gonna tell you the ones that are correct and then you're gonna get a chance to switch up the ones Well rocket raccoon Fuck man, it's he's marvel so I gotta go with Hulk New Teen Titans in DC comics presents 26 and then Hellboy in 2001 Space Odyssey 8. Okay. I will tell you that

this is not correct. There's one incorrect out of this. Really? Well, there are others too. Two, four. Right. But which, I'm going to give you a chance to switch them up. So you have Howard DeDoc in Adventures into fear 19.

You have machine man and John Burns next month. All right. So let me try this. We have one wear off by night. You have in number 32. You have for moon night and Hulk 271 for rocket raccoon and DC Comics presents 26 for the new Teen Titans and in 2001 a space Odyssey for Hellboy. Yeah. Okay. One of these, so two of these are incorrect. Well that

makes me think that, that makes me think that how would the duck probably did not show up in adventures into fear? But he wouldn't have shown up in World War II night All right, I'm gonna switch these two. I don't think that's right though. I don't think I made it. I'm gonna tell you the ones that are right. Hulk 271 was indeed the first appearance of Rocket Raccoon. Great. DC Comics Presents 26 was the first appearance

of the new Teen Titans. Okay. That was got four wrong. Now he's keeping it up. You should have stuck with adventures into fear 19 being the first appearance of Howard Adolph. That was correct. So that should have stuck with where off by night and moon night. That made sense. Being so it was really was machine man and hellboy. Yeah, John Burns next man 21 was the first appearance of hellboy. Oh wow. And machine man appeared in space Odyssey number eight 2001 in

1977 I believe so that was not based on the movie it was based on Cubrick's movie And machine man appeared in there. Yeah Jack Kirby create this character called mr. Machine and Then when the that book got canceled the license lapsed they just moved that character over and changed them into mr Wow, they made good use of machine man over the years. Yeah, they really have The only reason I was excellent though once you man. Yeah, yeah, don't kick yourself. Yeah Judy or what who's your playing for again Mrs. Judge? I can't remember the name of a guy I wrote the Morgan kill you got Lisa jury Lisa jury.

Lisa jury. He really tried hard. I did. I didn't see the brain cells dying. I only knew the Howard the duck one because we did it on comic book, man. Okay, Bri, who colored War of the Undead? Wayne Janssen. Oh, no, that was Phil Sloan.

Never Phil? Oh, yeah, Phil. The pizza dude. I Only know Wayne Jansson's name Phil Sloan. I haven't thought about probably since we did Did I win Said you right now is just like the stupid fuck I lose every game nobody if I play for somebody you should expect to lose Bunny I know that you love music right? Yeah, and what do you use when you're listening to your music use headphones?

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You know who that is? I probably do. I don't know. Spider-Man guy. He's Spider-Man on the MCU. Let's say you start cloning him now. So in 18 years, we have a 18 year old Tom Holland to appear in a new Spider-Man movie where he looks like he did today. Okay. How exciting will that be? Probably not that exciting for me. All right. And what about this scenario? I'm carrying that box about spider-man. Peter Coet is still around. Or we clone Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford and in 30 years we can have a movie that takes place between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. And they look exactly like they did in 1980. Unfortunately, I won't be here to see it. Punks.

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Now that's quality content. Okay, let's get back to the show. All right, Q. This next section is called Cryptonite or Cryptonite. Ooh! Now, I'm going to tell you a colored kryptonite. Okay. And what it does, and you tell me if it's a real kryptonite or kryptonite.

Okay. Got you. All right. Um... Green kryptonite weakens at first with flu-like symptoms that lead to death kryptonite or kryptonite kryptonite correct. Yes Brie. Hmm. What is the name of the traveling freak show in Karni? Oh A fellow's cavalcade of oddities

I want the board Sandy. We're looking good. We're looking good All right, so Q you have three Brian has one, right? Okay, I think you got two of you like you yeah, you got two. Yeah, you got three now um blue kryptonite turns Kryptonians invisible kryptonite oh I think that is kryptonite No, it's false. It's kryptonite kryptonite what is this kryptonite do then I don't know I only finally came up oh okay got it that's up to the listeners out they want to investigate we're gonna try to make them you know got you don't want me to look it up it's like interactive guy Brian who colored crypto soic man um Phil no Wayne Jackson and he also colored Metro.

Alright, yeah, he did an excellent job. As well as VinylCast 1 and 2. He has been a very, very prolific guy. He's a talented guy. On the top of the awful lot. On Sung Hero. Yeah, he's awesome. I've been singing this praises all the time.

I think he did everything. Black, Kryptonite. Okay. Causes a Kryptonian to split into two entities, one evil, one good. Kryptonite or Kryptonite? That's not what... Oh, fuck man, wait.

Kryptonite. Kryptonite. Black Kryptonite does cause a Kryptonian's split into two entities one evil and one good evil Wow Brie to date. What is the record price paid for a perfect CGC graded copy of crypto's oh man number one? Oh, a thousand bucks. Yeah, it was was it a thousand? No, I remember it is a thousand it was around a thousand It was $1,100 was it yeah, they're right number one still three or two still in close. Yeah, you're doing good man All I know is I didn't get that money

Pink kryptonite Hmm causes uncontrollable sobbing in Kryptonians Kryptonite oh wow that that's a statement right that's Well, you know that come out the pink kryptonite statement right that's well you know that come out the pink kryptonite okay I don't remember that but it sounds like some bullshit from the 50 so I'm gonna say kryptonite pink kryptonite does not control will sobbing kryptonite kryptonite that does sound like a wall flag you never know and it's fucking it is the 50s yeah alright bright this one's a tough one like like you had all

those characters to rearrange Mm-hmm. Now you have to rearrange something. Oh, yeah Identify all the cryptic creatures and the body parts they represent on cryptozopman Oh, I gotta remember from memory Well, you can look at him. He's right behind you. Let me see here Where is he? Okay, so you have nessie for the arm. Nessie for the arm. Correct. Uh, Jersey devil for the wing. Correct. Um, the face is big foot. Correct. And the antler, the horn. Yes. Fuck, that one I'm not sure about. That's the last one you need to last one I need huh you need that one oh who has

antlers man you even know sorry Sandy I don't know what a great what a great design yeah it's cool. It's really cool. Um, Moth man. I don't know. I know it's not Moth man. I just don't know. I don't know another crypt that I could Jersey devil. Oh, he's also Jersey. Yeah. Just like a big foot foot is also the foot in the face. Oh, right. And the torso is also a big foot. Yeah, that was tricky, man. I didn't think it would be the same one twice. Yeah. Oh, okay was tricky man. I didn't think it would be the same one twice. Yeah Okay, still three to two

I'm hanging in I'm flopping on the kryptonite Silver kryptonite causes hallucinations and uncontrollable hunger kryptonite or kryptonite I don't recall kryptonite Silver does indeed cause hallucinations and non-controllable hunger. Crypto-night. Fry? What Superman was your guy? He is, man, but this is all fucking some deep shit.

This is like, this is before my era. Oh, yeah. Crypto-night, yeah. Who provided the four covers to Karni, which artist did the covers for Karni? Karni, oh artists did the covers for Karnie? Karnie, oh it was um... fuck what was his name? God damn it, he used to do the one for the vampire guy. Yep, 30 days a night.

Yeah, he was a Steve Niles. Steve Niles was the writer and it was... fuck I'll never remember. I haven't thought of his name and so fucking long. Really talented guy though, was happy that he did it. Shit, I don't know how I forget. Ben Temples. Ben Temples, my fuck. So, Q, if you get this right,

okay, is it another kryptonite one? Yeah, and Brian, there's one more question for you. So if he gets this wrong, I could catch up. You could catch up. All right. Purple kryptonite Turns kryptonone turns Kryptonians into vain narcissistic no at all

kryptonite or kryptonite what color was that purple? kryptonite kryptonite Correct It does it does not that was a kryptonite It does it does not that was a kryptonot right the last one though if you get this right I'm gonna send Sandy the artwork anyway. Oh wow all right there's pressure now I'm gonna send both Lisa and Sandy a page of artwork I buy comics it just puts us all in like real right real good nobody's arguing with each other nobody's making fun of each other And Lister is a chance to participate in prizes. This is what all the Patreon episodes.

You know how like when a like when a professional sports games a blowout people just start leaving like Sandy left like a 15 minutes ago. To make it up to Sandy and no one's going to remember that you didn't remember much about all the issues that you wrote. Just the the all go away. All people people are gonna remember is that for I won her Wow, we did it he did it with everything going on right now a lot of people are asking if it's even possible to buy life insurance And you can you can they have not stopped the life insurance industry and If you have loved ones who depend on your income you probably should get some life insurance like me

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I seem to know Karni much better than the other ones. Everybody gets artwork. Alright, Sandy. Nice. Yeah. We did it. We did it, buddy. Yeah, you did it.

You did it. Whew. I gotta take some. I gotta do some, yeah it is. I gotta do some memory exercises. I just managed to forget and shit. Yeah, we should. I heard that like that. It is good, but like it starts coming out of your pores I just managed to forget and shit. Yeah, I'm gonna show you. I heard that like that.

It is good, but like it starts coming out of your pores and you smell like fish. Oh really? Yeah. What would you rather? No, no, I guess like, would you rather not know who fucking colored? War the undead or something like that?

I don't go on to forget Phil Sloan's name again. I'll smell like a fucking mackerel. Because at the end of the day, said he still got the artwork. You don't smell like fish. Yeah, it's a little workshop So how long we haven't got on this episode? This is about 50 minutes so far. Oh, all right So I mean I thought it went well. I did it. Yeah, it's I love doing I love rapping about comic Yeah, I love doing that. I love rapping about comic thinkers. Yeah, I like rapping about it. Are you still an avid reader every week? Yeah, every week. What did you think about the blood bath at DC? Oh, I felt I was very glad to hear that people that I know personally

Survived but you're talking about like a mass firing. Oh, man. They got hit so hard. Um, I don't think it boasts well for comics and never going to go away, but I just, I'm worried that comics are just, because the people that they put in charge, this is the problem. And I'm telling you this, but this is inside. If you can give DC any words of advice right now, this is where, this is where they would go to listen to it. They should be listening to this block of podcast DC. Listen to busy listen, I sell comics.

18 and T. No shit. That's why they're going out of business. Warner, including me. Oh, so you're owned by 18 and T. So you should be very careful. No, we, we, we, we lost people we've worked with for a decade in the last two weeks. They, they basically close, they're basically closing 98% of the New York office. It's like, it's horrible. Do you see, it seems like I'm worried that they're putting people in charge of the company that have nothing to do with comics. That's a prop. I think that's an issue. Like they're

putting in, I mean, they're getting rid of people who have worked in comics for their entire lives and putting in people who have never worked in comics. Because you're looking at it more of like a business. I'm a little worried that it's just gonna become a farm for movies and shit like that. And that's all they care about. Who's the editor-in-chief at DC right now?

They just fired Dan to deal. Did that? Well, no, then another guy, the guy that replaced at DC right now? Just fired Dan to deal. Did that? Well, no, then another guy, the guy that replaced them would also go as long as. Oh, he went too, right? Yeah. I think it's dark times ahead for comics, unfortunately. But you know what?

Yeah. There always will be comics, like you said, but there may be some light shelves as we proceed in the years with comic books in terms of the output that a DC or Marvel is able to put out Yeah, it's just not enough people that they're buying it either though No, I you know what it might it might put it an end to It wouldn't be a bit look they put out some fucking bullshit comics too like this. I'm shit that like I won't miss They're very guilty of it both companies. Yeah yeah but it's unfortunate like I had it ready yet but I was looking forward to

getting into it like the new hellblazer I heard was fucking excellent and they canceled that in the first trade hadn't even come out yet um I don't know man I think it's gonna be dark but we go through this every every every it's cyclical yeah Yeah, the the the doomsday sayers have been saying comics are dead for yeah 2000 it won't be dead. Did they did they partially do it to themselves with like all this crossover shit and event shit and like I think there I think there's a lot of people are event weary people are just weary at the prices too. I see it every day. People cannot afford to keep up with.

It's four bucks a book. Yeah, if not, it more. And it's weird too, because like, and I know why they're doing it, and I'm glad they're doing it, but it's just like the same price, the book, digital or printed is the same price. And the reason they're doing it

is because if they don't do that, everybody's just gonna buy digital. Yeah, there's no easy answers in the, I mean, it's a... It's tough, man. I don't feel, you know what? I also, and I don't even wanna fuck it. You know what I'm not even gonna say it. I think that they kind of,

I think they kind of, I think for they kind of, I think they kind of, I think for a little bit, both companies have lost their North Star, what they should be going after. I think that they lost sight of the characters and what they mean to people. And I think that they started worrying about the world outside comics and you're not alone. And I'm thinking that's a lot of people think the same way. I see that same exact message from a lot of people. And it's just like the story's got to be first. It's like the characters and the story of got to be first.

And when you lose sight of that, like they did in the 90s, like they do in now, that's when people are like, fuck it. I don't wanna read this. DC Marvel, listen to this podcast. You got, we've got three creators here. We could bring Carney to DC and save them. Carney too. We could bring Metro to Marvel.

Yeah. You know, a crossover with Punisher. Cross over with Ghost Rider. Ah, be great. We'll just give us Ghost Rider Punisher. Yeah. This interest, do they still put out Ghost Rider? Sure. Yeah, but this is a great example of what's wrong. Here is, here, this is what's wrong. Ghost Rider was one of the fucking, one of my favorite characters, love Ghost Rider. Then they get it. I was in Marvel's offices and I was talking to the guy and they're like, yeah, we're just sick of the motorcycle. We just don't want a motorcycle anymore.

And I was like, what do you mean? I started arguing with the guy. I was like, what do you mean you don't want the motorcycle anymore? That's Ghost Rider. And they're like, no, we just don't want to see a motorcycle anymore. And I'm like, what the fuck? And then they create this Robbie Rea's character. Who fucking sucks balls? It is, it is, it's a harshing bite. It's a harsher bite. I buy comics.

I tried to read that and it was, it was, and it wasn't even like it was a bad writer. Like didn't Aaron, who wrote those? I'm not sure, yeah. I am the least able to comment on the state of comic books in terms of the production in terms of the way the stories are written. I don't read them. Right.

I'm an old school guy. I buy old stuff collected in hard covers and trade paper bags, the stuff that I grew up with. But the only way I can comment on it is how I see the loopworm reaction to the customers here at the center. And that's not like, I'm not saying that that's got to be nationwide, the feeling I can only comment about what I see. You're on the front lines though. Right, but I'm not saying that that well, because it doesn't sell here and means it doesn't

sell any stores across country. I'm not saying that either. For all I know, maybe the things that don't sell here, maybe they do well in other parts of the world, I don't know. San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. And did you, what people's response to that goes for either? It's weird, because like you figure a character like that

could keep a book longer than he does. It seemingly feels like, you know, there's certain characters that just get canceled 20 issues in constantly or just they try to try them back out four years later. They just need to write. Angle because like if you look at it, like how long did they try and crack Deadpool before Deadpool became what he is? How long? Like the Punisher, right? Didn't he? He, and now he's, well, even now he doesn't even have a... He doesn't even have his own part. These characters just go away for a little while and they come back.

I think that was because Garth and it's defined it. So like Garth and his punisher was, yeah, he's the punisher. And it's hard to and then they're like, well, try frank and castle. And you're like, well, I see what you're going for. And I kind of do dig frank and castle, but I would like to see more of Garth and his come back. I mean, you know what I just recently read with Grant Morrison's Justice League

and first arc with the Martians? Holy fuck, and I'm like, how could I read any other justice? You know what I mean? It's so fucking good. He defined it. He defines it. I mean, Mark Way did good too. And but yeah, Grant Morrison run is just so good so I don't know

How does Ghost Rider get around if he doesn't have his motorcycle? He's a black car. Oh now he's a car. Oh yeah? And he's got a demon anymore his uncle's a serial killer or some shit like that and that possess the car I it's just like But but it wasn't even that because I was just hearing Then in that out of there's not that marvel anymore, but hearing his disdain for the motorcycle. You're just like, how are you?

Now, are you in charge of this? I think though this comes with age though, because I kind of get the feeling you're a Danny Ketch guy. Oh, I am a Danny Ketch guy, yeah. And you know what? Because he was my- I was saying the same shit about Johnny Blay. That's right. I was saying he's fucking punks the same shit about Johnny Blay. That's right.

I was saying he's fucking punks. But I love Johnny Blay. I don't want Johnny Blay. Oh, you do? But I love Johnny Blay. And they beat him as well. But he was like, okay, but like here, like, like, uh, to me, Kyle Rayner. Yeah.

I love. He's my green lantern. Yeah. But I like Hal Jordan. Like, I, Wally West is my flesh. And I like Jake Garrick. And I like him, Pulse. But Barry Allen is a fucking punk-ass bitch.

Why they brought that fucking asshole back from the dead? And then he's such a stick up as S, he's such a fucking nerd. And then what happened? Nobody likes Barry Allen, so they turn him into Wally West. If you read the comics now, and I didn't tell you, you were reading Barry Allen, you'd be like, this is Wally West. He's jokey, he's fucking goofy, he's irresponsible,

they're always like, you'd be like, this guy's a fucking cop. He works for a crime scene investigator. He's not a goofy fucking power-round guy, and that's what they turn him into. And I'm like, well, because you know what, the staggy don't sell. So kill him.

Kill him off again, fucking sucks. Oh, I hate Wally. I mean, I hate that Barry Allen so much. The passion right here. The passion, people love, that's why they love this podcast. Yeah, I'm a, and this reason. Love to hear you nerd out. Well, you ready for this?

I'm gonna name drop and nerd out. All at the same time? Yeah, same thing. I was talking to, I was on the set of one the woman when I went there years ago. Gail, get up. And I was talking the set of one of them when I went there years ago. Gail, get up. And I was talking to Patty Jenkins, director of the movie in Gail,

and I somehow we got into the flesh, and I started going on a rant, and I could see the eyes glaze over. Yeah, they're like, what's he talking about? He's one of those. Yeah. I thought he was cool. I saw the glaze start.

I was like, oh yeah. Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. I really hate that, I really hate that. But that's why real, cue people, the real people who love cue. They love that you love comics. Like they love that you can nerd out. Like that you have a nerd face for comics.

I do, I do. And it shows on this podcast. His gallon patty Jenkins didn't want to see it. The woman directing Wonder Woman. Yeah, it was like, why the fuck are you talking about the life totally? You turned it off totally. That is a common book fan.

That is the leader of I by comics. That's why you're at the helm.