Tell Em Steve-Dave - #478: The Spy Who F&@ked Me

Episode Date: April 25, 2021

Pet names, Sasquatch, fat news.

P or Pi Poo, Cp Pow, Cp Poo. Don't try that ming shit. But it'll very toots. Everybody listening to this probably knew that about 10 minutes ago. Tell them Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell them Steve Dave down here at the Tell them Steve Dave general store with Q and with Walt. How you doing boys? Very happy to be back here.

Bit of sad news, we have to offer condolences to our friend Frank V. Shock G died, the Humpty Humpty guy from Digital Underground. And that's his favorite band from when he was a kid. Loves the Humpty Dance. He even does a Humpty Dance. He told me last night. Really? Yeah. Are you aware of this this passing? I'm not sure who they're talking about. I know who I know who it is. I didn't realize anybody with an ass circle would be mourning so deeply. Yeah. Is this with this music industry? You know

mourning? Oh, yeah, that's a big wig Yeah, that's a big wig. Yeah, I imagine right definitely Humpty dance was like That's the novelty song, I guess that everybody likes but if you listen to digital underground. What is it about big booty? I don't think so. Okay. I don't know why why do I think that I might think it's a mix of okay? Yeah Yeah digital on the ground pretty, but that's sad, isn't it? When any human dies. It was young guy too, 57. Really? Yeah, when I see shit like that,

I'm like, well, he died at 57, and she died at 52, and he died at 60, I'm like, well, I'm fucking right in the pocket man. Yeah, but then you also see like the 116 year old, world's oldest man, or woman I couldn't tell from the picture.

We're just going to move past the way. So then you got that on the other hand, you know, 116. That's true. Do you think you'd want to be 116? I'm sure we've posed this question many times over the 400 episodes. I'm going to pose it again. I would take, I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. Yeah.

Regardless of the level of pain. He or she looked like she was, or he was having a great time in that picture that I saw, you know, blown out of cake, his last birthday, or last birthday. It's last birthday. There was, I saw footage. I can't remember. It was just like some news channel and it was a woman talking to this, a newscaster talking to this lady who was, I don't know, she turned like 105 or some shit. This old woman looked like she wanted to jump off a building. So how are you going to celebrate? And she just doesn't even say anything. I know. I think we talked about that woman.

Wasn't there a game show we did where a woman said she only had one good day in her entire life and she was like 104. What was that? That's gotta be exaggerating. That's just gotta be something like an overly dramatic person. No, I thought you brought it in.

Am I thinking about this right, she had one good day. She was 104. Oh, I don't think it was on Tom Steve Dave. Oh, I don't remember that. Yeah, I don't brought it in. Am I thinking about this right? She had one good day. She was 104. Oh, I don't think it was on Tom Steve Dave. Oh, I would remember that. Yeah, I don't remember that either. Really? Yeah. Fucking other podcasts am I doing?

Well, it could have been on anything, right? I mean, I guess you're all over the place. I guess, but I mean, still I thought he's not wrong. Russian woman who claims to be world's oldest at 129, this is a couple years back, says she's had one happy day in her life. Really? What did it consist of?

Let's see, they've been filled with her days of been, years have been filled with more misery than happiness, at least that's how she tells it. They're calling her a liar. She's kind of anointed a laf for allowing her to live so long. It was God's will. Why did a laf give me such a long life and so little happiness? I would have been dead long ago for a laf who was holding me in his arms. It is hard to live when all who remembered you died long ago. That's very scary to die, however old you are. So this is a woman that was just kind of sitting around waiting to drop dead and watched

all her friends go long before. Like that's the thing, it's like you're 116? You don't think about all the passing and all the times you got a mourn of all the people who how many fucking funerals You'd have to go to yeah, I mean after while you just stop going right yeah, I mean you would have to be real close like no fringe It's gonna be weird like when Like my circle starts dying like so it's dying. I mean I'm not looking at you for any reason Like it's gonna be weird like we don't know who has

Like a defective heart or an aneurysm waiting to burst but like it's coming I wouldn't have thought it about kev Oh my god, that's crazy. We that's. You're right. Like, what have Kav had died? You can't even conceive of it. It's just, I'll be like, we what? Yeah. I'll tell you, since that we did that podcast with him. And he told that story about being on the table and thinking about his friends and stuff like that. And it was nice for them to throw me in there. I'm sure to throw me in there. I'm sure it wasn't in there, but it really did get me I was like wow and I've been texting with him more than I normally do.

Because of that story because I'm on the table. I was like wow I was like fuck we really like I know I knew it but it was like to hear the story of him going through it. It shook me a little bit yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's but it was like, to hear the story of him going through it, it shook me a little bit. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's Jordan who's to thank for all that. Jordan was the one who insisted that he not do the second show, and she was the one who insisted that he go to the hospital, and she...

She, that girl pays off, she's awesome. Yeah, she's pretty awesome. Yeah, so, yep, we're hungry. You can never get better at her, right? After that? No, fucking that. No fucking way matter Well, how any kind of misstep she has in the future. It's like you you still it's like but you know what But then I think a George Lopez didn't his wife give him a fucking He left her yeah, he left her. Yeah, she gave a kidney and he left her. Oh, yeah, we told I'm we I know we've talked about this too

We've been at this too long about five years ago We should just take a year off come back and start it all over But I do have a story we've never talked about okay, I'll let spray has something. No, it's just looking up George Lopez Okay, go ahead, but um I Want to know if you guys have ever heard of the story of she, P or Pi Poo, she P, P, Poo. She P and Poo. P, P, P. Maybe get him to look it up too while he's over there.

She, S H I P E I P U. Have you guys ever heard of the story of? I have not. to all these over there. She, SHI, PEI, P-U. Have you guys ever heard of the story of? I have not. Okay, so this was a person, and this one was alerted to me on Twitter. A listener said, I want you guys to talk about this and whatever it is. I'm gonna take your request then.

And I clicked on it and I kind of thought, this is interesting. This person, he was a Chinese opera singer and he was a spy and during the World War 2, he seduced secrets from a French embassy worker, an employee at the French Embassy and convinced the French Embassy worker that he was a female and he had a 15 year relationship with this French Embassy worker and even told him that he had a child with him. Wow. Look, I'm not going to claim that I pay attention to detail, but holy shit.

I mean, that is stunning. Who doesn't notice that after 15 years? Scott, and after 15 seconds, I'm like, what's that? No, I mean, you can get away with a good, like, two month run on full of me, but like 15 years is a long time. Like, now this story came out, like, you know, because he, you know, and he, you know, he was vilified, you know, for, you know, turning a trader, revealing French's, France's secrets to the, to the Chinese government through this spy. Oh, women. And on top, he gets fucking fooled that he's dealing with a dude. Yeah, like when, when, when, when, when Tranny Tricking is your second worst offense.

I didn't see, I don't think we're allowed to say Tranny Tricking. Yeah, like when when when get one tranny tricking is your second worst offense I don't think we're allowed to say tranny trick I think the word yeah, that's how to out I wasn't aware Jesus Christ I gotta somebody has to update me But I'm But I maintain that You know that don't try that ming shit here Lots going on right now.

In the world. Sorry. In the laws of war and the Geneva Convention has put down there's there's certain things you can do in warfare and not doing warfare. Yeah. I maintain that shit should be outlawed. You cannot send in dudes dressed as chicks to fuck with the enemy. Really?

Yeah, because that's more fucked up than like drop on a fucking daisy cutter on top of somebody dude. Because like they get the secrets plus your humility. Yeah, I mean, like if you want to send in women spies, like I'm talking about like with born women, you know, not Scientifically walk that tight rope. Yeah, obviously how you come out of it suddenly, I don't look so bad But like if you want to send in spies who are born female. Yeah to seduce the enemy sure that's all That's should be fair. You don't think all fair love and war like You draw the line at at the old T-Trick. I know, this one, this one.

And we can't surround this. I don't know why did you bring this topic to the new television here? But you don't think that that should be out one of the things that the Geneva Convention takes a look at now and be like, okay, no more sending in People posing as to be the opposite sex like right under chemical warfare What country was he from he was from China what the fuck did I tell you guys about China?

They don't obey any laws. I told you I watched that documentary on on the history of the entire human race and the Chinese, am I doing another podcast? Yeah, I'm talking about the news going on. I'm talking, did you start up, what say you? No, it sounds busy, he's doing his other things. He, I swear to God, I thought we'd talk to him. I watched this documentary on the history of all humanity, and I walked away from it with a really healthy fear of the Chinese. Like they're fucking, they're responsible for fucking, they invented guns, they invented

gunpowder, like they will fucking not stop. Obium. Yeah, until they, that's actually what derailed them from taking over the entire world was open. It's fucking crazy, man. They're realsia. They might have invented the old pose as a woman. Get all your get all the state secrets you can get. That is what I'm saying. They're not going to stop anything. I mean, they fucking send

a real female opera singer in in seduce this guy. This guy is so fucking desperate that and you've got to be you've got to be very sexually ignorant to have a 15-year love affair and not figure it out at all, right? I wonder how often he saw him. Get him, you got some information on this case, you want to come over here and not fucking, I know you're ready to talk about it from across the room. Yep, pretty good. Well apparently the diplomat had only had relations with men before this. Oh, all right. So they met in 1964 and China.

Also, wasn't the WW2, what war was this then? It was around Vietnam and Korean war. So, I said something about the Korean war in there. Why was France and China then going? It was, they opened the embassy in 1964, and this person was teaching Chinese to the families of the people who were working in the embassy. Okay.

And told this guy that he slash she was a woman who was forced to dress like a man to please his father, because they got sent up. So there's more to the story than it just from... Yeah, it was discovered five years later by the Chinese government And they pressured the person to be to get to steal documents. Oh, so they were already getting it on yes And he knew that it was a man dressed as a woman. No, no, no They maintained a sexual relationship in darkness. It says

Well, it is the best way. You can get you can trick. I want to say trick, but you can do a lot of you do a you can do a lot of things. I meant tricks in a good way. Like trick you pull in the bedroom, but they did think to make you believe that like, you know, that everything's where it should be. Yeah. What's the trick? Well, if it's, you know, if it's talk, yeah, and plus if you, and you know, and if you're skilled enough in other areas, maybe you forget about, you forget about the other way and

I was watching a, it was like one of those forensic files, one of those types of shows the other day, and it was a guy who who showed up and he was, he was, she was, it was the dude was dressed as a girl, not a true transgender like a transvestite, I guess. And the dude found out only because the girl, you know, the girl just wanted to ask fuck. So it always seemed to be on her period. So she said, it's okay, they're like, it can just fuck me in the ass. So what was this on friends? But do you think that the that the whoever's handling I get United Nations could they come out today and be like you know moving forward? You know all nations must sign this War agreement that you know if you're going to send

in spies into a war relationship. They get canceled. Yeah, they would. The United Nations are get canceled. They're get canceled. Yeah, I mean, you look at how they're trying to, how like some people are getting so upset about transsexual people playing sports. Like, it would just be like,

now you don't want them in the spine, and that would be over. Well, could you then say that, like, all nations have to sign this document that will agree to no more using sex to get state secrets from anybody? That's against, you know. So not, you're not just trying to

outlaw gay shenanigans or yeah like don't you can't use it to get secrets like you can't seduce a senator to reveal the secrets if you're a foreign spy like it's a you're like this real hot foreign female spot yeah you can't come in and use your sexuality. Who do you want to know, honey? I can't do it. It's against all the old rules of the war. I would hope that the United States doesn't hold to that. Really? You think that we got spies? I'd have to get down and dirty to get secrets. I think I'd dominate.

Domino must be established and maintained at any cost I believe Did they just catch a lady? They're They're training spies to sleep Really with foreign nationals no way. I don't know didn't they just bus somebody like a it was a god What nationality was she but she had it was like 16 different guys or something really yeah, hold on Remember you want it? I don't know I just feel like that would be like very sexist. Like why they could use hot dudes to get

Pelosi like what if they send me to do a hot dude. I can't close these high. Suddenly she's still. No no I'm talking about America. I can't believe because I'm if America is training female operatives in the art of seduction,

yeah, it would, I think it would come back to fucking bite them if that news ever got out. That could destroy the CIA. Why, though, why didn't you just talk about it? I'm just on the show of set. It's horrific, though. I mean, you're training your female operatives that they have to like sleep with the enemy or the...

If you're a Chinese, if you're a Chinese, like the Chinese government's in charge of you and they're like, hey, this is what you're gonna do, fucking somebody is probably the least of them. Right, but yeah, that's why we're gonna be better than China. That's what we have. America cannot, cannot, cannot participate

in that kind of... But why? Like you, you would send a spine to a situation where she might get killed or have to kill someone. Different ball game though. But not in a situation where she may have to bang someone.

Yeah, I think it, I think it's totally like it's a game changer. It's a game changer. I think it's society is just has no fucking place. You could put yourself in, in harm's way, but not this is why but not here, but not any, but you can't go to bed with a target.

Well, look, you see what China's willing to roll out. They're willing to do whatever it takes. Yeah. Okay. It's not going to go well for us. I think the days of James Bond of Secret agents betting everything that moves That day those days are over. Why the fuck would anybody want to be a spy if those days are over? What the fuck do you get out of it? state secrets State that's like hey you can't fuck anybody Here's the secret I hate my state.

Yeah, I thought that was an interesting story though. I more so because I'm like, that's fucked up though, that, you know, what, that you get tricked that long, no? And believe you have a child. Yeah, that's right. And also like an opera singer, like, it had to have been a soprano, I assume, like otherwise. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just can't, like a couple of times a year.

Would you look up the picture of the opera singer? Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's scary. Yeah, I have the ball to this one. Yeah, it's kind of disturbing looking. It's very, yeah, it's scary. I either behold of this one. Yeah, it's kind of a disturbing looking. It's very, yeah, it looks something I like out of a,

out of like a woman. Oh my God, it doesn't even look like a woman. Some sort of horror movie. Oh my God, come on. That would not fool me. That is somebody who wants to be fooled. Yeah. Yeah. There's somebody who wants to be fooled. Yeah. Yeah.

There's more than willing to be fooled. Hmm. I hope. They made a play out of it called Embutterfly. Embutterfly? That's what that's about? Yeah. Where's for being a one guy to start?

Are you fucking kidding me? Everybody listening to this probably knew that about 10 minutes ago. Probably. Hahaha. Hahaha. Get him out of it for those who didn't hear. Get him just said, Madam Butterfly is. And Butterfly. And Butterfly. Oh, that's different from, yes. Oh.

Which is different than Madam Butterfly. Oh, I thought Madam Butterfly. Oh, so it was a take, it was kind of a cutesy take on Madam Butterfly. Oh, okay. All right. All right, well, it twists. God, I forgot how good the four-colored demon flags look. Yeah, we're at the general store

And we have four color demon flags and stock. I got to get one. You don't have one. I don't even have one I think I think you guys gave me one and I left it in the store Okay, cuz I want to fly that fly your freak flag. Yeah Yeah, I'm getting I'm gonna get an oh what they're talking about motorcycles We could talk about it cuz I'm I may get something And if I do, I'm gonna get a tank painted with the four color demons logo and I wanna fly the flag off it, like, you know, how the job is getting excited, yeah.

Could that cause some sort of wind imbalance, you know, I don't wanna see you lose it? Yeah, after 9-11, Darren and I had these massive flags on our motorcycles, like we would drive around with them on. Did they cause any kind of like, you know, like wind or like resistance? Yeah, like what you have to like feel like you might lose control or anything. No, never really. The focus of the mince lightest, do we have them anymore?

Are they out of stock? We haven't had zippos and quite some time our zippo connection, you know, he went in my eye. Yeah, he just stopped dealing with us. And I never really looked. I think I may have another one out. Yeah, I did some like working. You know, I was talking a big game. He's like, oh, my God, connections at Zippo.

And then as soon as I was like, all right, let's go. Put up or shut up. He gave me a name. Because I'm not one. You never told me this. He's a kid. He's a kid. He's a kid.

He's a kid. He's a kid. He's a kid. Because I, Because a lot of people have been asking me on Twitter for ever making them again. I was like, oh, I didn't even know we weren't making them. Oh, we haven't made them in years. Really? I don't personally ever have a use for a lighter. So it's something that's not in my daily routine.

So I never think to myself, oh yeah, a lighter. Right. Yeah. Get them. Can you get all that? Yeah. Thanks, bud. All right. Walt, I was wondering. It'll lead into something else, but if suddenly Deb started calling you bro,

how many times before you're like, what, what are you doing? One. Once? Just once. How many times before you're like, what, what are you doing? Once? She's just like, he's up bro. Yeah, it's so out of character. That word has probably never even come out of her mouth. You know, so if I were to start using it ironically or not. Like as a pet name.

Yeah, I would feel that it was really strange why is your wife been starting calling you bro? No, but I saw, I was watching TV and this girl was calling some other guy bro. And I was like, I wonder how would I like it? I was like, my pet name. You know from the 70s? Maybe that's why.

No, I don't think I can't remember what it was. But it made me think like, do you have pet names or do you just call it Deb? No, no. No, I don't think it's okay to remember what it was. But it made me think, do you have pet names, or do you just call it a dub? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's just not us. We don't have the, we would never keep up with it. Couldn't keep up with it. Well, now it's even really frustrating.

Remember, like, you know, trying to remember the pet name, just feel like such a like a task. How many times could you call her bro? We just, okay. What else do we got here? Oh, are you watching Sasquatch? Well, I watched the first episode last night. That's odd that you would even mention. So did I. Yeah. Did you watch it yet? No, what is what's going on? Tan Hulu. It's a mini series about a real crime drama. Many series about it, the murder of three men on a platform in the 90s, and they theorize it was committed by a Sasquatch.

Which I thought was funny that they keep saying homicide and murder when it's like, you got killed by a tiger, no, or a bear. Or it was more likely what happened to these guys. Yeah, exactly. I thought, my god, that bear murdered them. Yeah, you would say that bear killed them.

But I thought, it's so weird that you caught the same thing I did. I was like, why the fuck are they trying to force feed down? That this is a murder? I was like, and it sounds way cooler than a first episode was. I thought the first episode sucked. I don't think I'll ever go back to watch part two.

Oh, you don't think so? Wow. It's a lot about pot, too. Yeah. Yeah, because it was lot about pot too. Yeah. Yeah, because it was around, it was in the 90s. Cosmic. A little bit cosmic. Yeah, it was in the 90s during this time

when they were growing a lot of weed up in Humboldt and Mendocino County. One other county, I can't remember what the other one is. And it's interesting, and it's interesting in as much as the people that live in that area, where they're like, don't go into, it's almost like inner city shit, where they're like, don't go into this area

because it's too dangerous. It's the same thing except it's fucking hillbillies, growing weed and shit. I don't remember them saying that, but how many episodes have you watched? Just the first. And you took that away from that? I took it away from like,

don't go into this certain area because you're gonna be watched. There's something like, you know, that just going to fucking... Oh, you thought it was because Sasquatch is there. Yeah. Well, no, they said they don't like outsiders. So I thought that they were talking about people.

Right, but it's pretty remote though. I mean, how are you going to run across anybody unless you're looking for a certain farm? To me, I can't recommend it off that first episode. You could recommend that, you think? I'm gonna give this second one a chance. I'll check it out. It just feels like a total waste of time.

Just no fucking chance on the planet, fucking. That's the problem. Yeah, the fucking problem. I know how it ends, right? Oh, you already know. I don't know how it ends. They don't know how it ends. They don't find a slash.

But do they, is there like, I'm sure that open ended question, like, what really happened? We'll never know. Right. Is that what I'm being set up for here? If they're watching six hours at us? I think so. I think that's what we're looking at. And those two guys who like, it was these two life partner guys who are fighting like cats and dogs for some reason on camera?

They're like they're they're arguing whether or not, you know They saw a sesquatch or fucking if it was this was sesquatch was one who fucking murdered these three guys Oh, they don't even know who the fucking three guys are they can't find any record of it Well, I'm sure that's coming. I mean, they want it. They got to stretch this out to six. Yeah But the they maintain Q and I want to get your opinion on this that the Patterson footage from, you know, the one that famous footage, or Bigfoot is lurking. Yeah, we turned around.

Yeah, that is still the, the creme de la creme, the best footage still to this date from 1967. Do you agree with that? It's the only one that comes to mind. But didn't they already, didn't they already, didn't Patterson as death that say it was folks. Yeah, he debunked it himself. There you go. But they had the guy and they're trying to tell people that there's another guy and like they given up the Grimes, is that the guy's name? Grimes and Patterson.

Yeah. And I was just like, I've never heard of the Grimes before. So he's been the Patterson footage. Yeah, the second dude who comes and he starts weighing in heavily on the yeah, like, but he's making it, he's no, this a Patterson set of a space. Grimes is still maintaining because he's alive. Yeah, he's not on his deathbed. It's real footage. I still need to make a buck. Yeah, I still want to get booked for interviews. I do like, take care. Why don't you fucking not say that? Let me see.

Well, I think they got, they kind of had a messy falling out, Grimes and Patterson. Money wise, I think Patterson wanted all the money for the footage and he never credit it, Grimes. Oh, how, I mean, especially at the time, I wonder how much you could have made. You know, like once you sell it, then it's just like whoever has it on to the perpetuity on it. Yeah. Do you still look at that footage? It's awesome.

It's still fucking awesome. And it's still strange and unusual. Like, it's hard to figure out. Did they just look into it with the bulges in the right area of the big foot, you know, where the muscles compact and they move in a way that really move like muscles. This isn't just some like big foot costume

that tell them Steve Dave keeps trusting out for every fucking video project that we do. This thing looked like it had muscle structure and it has breasts Oh really? That's a female Yeti Sess so big there might be I've read articles where they think there's a baby Yeti attached to the belly like holding on as it's walking really I've never read that no. I've never read have you looked at the whole uncut footage or you just looking at that fucking

Search up two seconds. Yeah, basically that It's it's it's it's said Patterson died of cancer in 1972 and maintained right to the end that the creature on the film was real Really and Gimlin I could have sworn I remember right? I am okay Gimlin has always denied being involved in any sort of hoax. So they, okay, so it, why are you saying it's real? I could have sworn.

Yeah, me too. I'm not gonna swear. I'm gonna get him, says he thinks we're thinking of Nessie, the Loch Ness Monster. Wow. Yeah, maybe you're right. Yeah, like, then the ladies, like, or that, the pixie picture, or the two ladies, took a picture in the thirties of pixies. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that, that maybe in the 30s of pixies. Oh, yeah

Yeah, that maybe what I'm thinking of but those were cool. If you look at that footage, you um that big foot is stacked Yeah, nice big little baby tips. Yeah, and then and apparently when you when you're like that spy when you come into when you're coming to contact, or you're in a close proximity to a big foot, musty sweet pungent odor. Yep. Could you get up close to see those titties or with that kind of... That'll have that they reap, right?

Yeah, they smell like ungodly. Well, the allure of titties has a faded with it. You know, you look you appreciate, but you're not jumping through any hoops from any more. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to go to the North Pacific. I'm deep into like 20 from like age 28 to like 38. I was on a massive titty run. It was absolutely fantastic, no more mystery, but if I had a chance to get up there and sniff up on some of them, smell the Bigfoot titties,

I think I would take it. Right. Well, here's not something I'm gonna blow your mind and really fucking maybe even have to make you cross your legs. The pungent odor, maybe because that the big foot is is in heat and it's coming from her vagina. They said that on the episode one. I'm not making this upright. That odor maybe. She was wins it. Yeah, but that is how she calls a mate with that.

She unleashes that odor from her. I guess because there's so few people at that odor would have to be. It comes from miles away for that. Yeah. Oh my god, does that mean that that bigfootfoot female big-foot must get their period then? Oh yeah, they said that too. Really? Yeah.

And you don't want to watch the second episode of this? It sounds like the craziest shit of it. Because it's so forced. It just isn't. That is right about you. Yeah, they're trying so hard to make this big-foot murder that I'm like, come on, please. The journalist seemed like an interesting guy though. I mean, he had a story clear.

Yeah, he was like a hung with a gang's man. Undercover. Yeah, all undercover. Arian nation. Like anything that's like dangerous and cool, this guy is doing it. But do you think this hurts his credibility now working on this case?

Is this like the, like I'm caching out? Like, you know, like, yeah, like I've covered. He could never go undercover again after this, the like I'm cashing out like you know like yeah like like I can never go undercover again after this because now I'm on Hulu yeah it's like a good point because he did like I mean when I when I say every single story he did was like holy shit that's cool you have to fucking balls to do right this does not seem like it takes balls yeah like I'm gonna say that once you go on the cover with like like a white supremacist group or or whatever It's like and they find out aren't you hunted like aren't they like we got to get this guy? I would imagine so but I mean how much are they gonna I mean it depends depends on how bad he made them look

I don't know how you can make our nation look good There's a positive spin to be had. That's a tough one. And I think what like his ground breaking journalist work was in the early or late 90s. The late 90s, early 2000s. So I mean, like has he just like, has all the stories dried up? And now he's like, and he's older too. Cache and out on this big foot murder documentary.

Yeah, I mean, maybe somebody came to him and they're like, Hey, do you want to do this Bigfoot thing? And I was like, how much are you gonna pay me? Yeah. Not maybe. That's what happened. I watched the documentary. You guys are a little bit more,

I can't believe we didn't talk about the night stalker. I watched the documentary on the night stalker. Oh, yeah, I watched it. The murder? Yeah, it is fucking insane. I, he should be the biggest serial killer. Is anybody worse than him? In your opinion?

Edgene. Yeah, but. Texas Chainsaw, you inspired that. Yeah, but this guy. Son of Sam. That's like, yeah, son of Sam was pretty bad. I mean, you got like Jeffrey Dahmer. Right, but you got the Ted Bundy.

I'm not saying anything good. You got the fucking clown, Prince of Evil. The real clown, Prince of Evil. Because I watched that documentary on him that they just did on peacock. And apparently they have all this footage of them interviewing him in jail. It's never been seen before.

So half the documentary is the case building like no all documentaries. And then the other half is footage of this interview with John Wayne Gacy where he he's just lying he's just He's like I don't know how body's got under the room like he says shit like that. There's like 30 of them He said he killed one person a self-defense. This was his what he was saying He killed one person a self-, put them buried him under the house because he didn't know what to do. And that emboldened all his friends to start killing people and putting them under the house when he wasn't around.

This is a shit he said. You know, all serious. He wasn't like fucking around. You're just like, this guy's a fucking asshole man. Are you telling me then that like you just have to cop to a certain point when you have 30 bodies, you can't, you just gotta be like, I just have to cop to it at a certain point when you have 30 bodies you can't You just got to be like I give up to think the games over He admitted like he he he he he was like he gave in his sanity

Play which means you did it you're saying you did it, but you're crazy And then he drew that map where all the bodies are so for him to turn around and say it was like you Wanted a punch this fucking mother fucker in the face more than you want because he wants to go on appeal And he's like you know what jail sucks See if I get out of this. He's just a lying crazy piece of shit. He's got pictures of him with Either Ford or Reagan. I can't remember the Carter a Rarlin Carter. Yeah First lady. But I think tonight's stalker was fucking worse because he, there was no, he would,

he would fucking murder an rape an 80 year old woman. He would murder an rape a fucking. Is that Ramirez? Yeah, Ramirez. Like a seven year old girl. Like there was no rhyme or read, no ethnicity. Sometimes he went out four nights and a week and fucking did it. So you're just like, it was so random.

It was insane. When you, um, when you look at that guy and, and you realize his background, right? Like his uncle coming home from Vietnam and talking about raping ladies and showing up to capitating heads and all that other shit. Is that like, is that the, the tipping point right there where it's like, actually, was father abusing. Yeah. And then his uncle, right, did all that shit. And then his uncle shot his wife in front of him, when he was a kid.

You're like, it's a stew. But then you look at Gacy too. And it's just like, yeah, his father beat the shit out of him. It's father was an alcoholic. Somebody molested him. He's just like, it's these are the ticks to have a serial killer. It's really fucking crazy.

It really is. Yeah, there's like, just check this box, check this box, and then it's like the ticks to have a serial killer. It's really fucking crazy. It really is. Yeah, there's like, just check this box, check this box, and then it's like, you got yourself a serial killer. But that's what I'm saying. The Nightstalker to me was above and beyond them all. I thought because he was so random

and he was doing it for Satan. And shit like that, he was like drawing pentagrams on the wall. Yeah, I mean, he is up there. It's not like he's a yeah I'm like an unknown serial killer and the way he knows about. But so many people don't I've been telling people to work. I've been like you got to watch this document. I was fucking trying. You're fucking talking to the wrong people. You got to come to the tell them Steve Day General Store. That's all we're talking about. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. We know.

Serial killers down here at the the top of the day of General Store I think he was the worst I think he was the worst and I don't think I don't think there is Like a strong argument like if that's what you think it is that's who that's who Talk about it the general store I just think that like this agree with the child like sports week of you know I think this one's a better fucking picture or that I mean they're all fucking horrible They're horrible. I think he's the worst Do you remember that footage? I know you saw it was Richard Speck. He was He was taken hormone injections in jail

He was taken hormone injections in jail So he grew these tits and had like this undercover footage like or some or some like like they were like they were like they were pardoning and they're fucking them in shit and he's like I love it. Oh gross. Did they put him to death right Richard Remiers? Remiers died of natural causes while on death row. Gacy, they did. They, Gacy, they got. Gacy, they killed. And who's the, the, the, the,

Bundy, he was, he was executed too. I mean, yeah, he had to see a documentary about him. We're all, dude, he might, you know, every time you watch a documentary, you're gonna be like, oh my god, this one's the worst. No fucking way, if I was a Ramirez one first. And Gacy, even though I found them, like just a fucking asshole I wanted to punch,

I still thought the other guy was crazy. But the clown thing, that doesn't fucking shake you off. But he wasn't using it to kill people, he was just being a clown. Right, but clowns are fucking spooky, man. They're spooky, and then like creepy. And it's not like he was just, he was a contractor, right?

Isn't that what he did? So he's a contractor, and it's not like Edgar was a contractor, he goes out to work, then comes home and shit. Like this guy was like very active in the community, fucking rotary club, all that shit. So he's out there mingling and like being normal. Yeah.

Like somebody that you would be like, I mean, how do you not step away and be like, holy shit. They had people in interviews with just like, it, it's the only thing. Oh, I did. They did, they did. So, have you watched the BTK fucking documentaries?

He's worse than Richard Mears. He's a piece of shit. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, all right. This is what I like. Now what's all about it. I know, I know.

I got to watch the worst one. He's a worse in a lot of ways, but worse than like where he, I'm like, that may be the most fucked up person that has ever walked this planet. Those pictures of him. And the fact that he kept it hidden from his wife, if you're to believe the wife,

it is the absolute most unnerving case. I know a little bit of the details. They're all unnerving, but I'm gonna hunt down the information during this week about BTC. I'll watch it on. I know he's vicious. Oh yeah. I know he is, I'm gonna hunt down the information during this week about me to get out, watch it on. I know he's vicious. Oh yeah. I know he is, but there's something about the guy that's on a Tuesday,

gonna rape and murder an 80 year old woman. Yeah. And on Thursday, you know. This is why it's hard to argue then, because then you throw these things at you and I'm like, and then I'm sitting here arguing against. No, no, no, no. No.

No. My guy's the most evil and fucked up. He's not your horse. What is this picture? That's that's him. He would bind himself up where stockings and then like and his back yard. Mm-hmm. Before he would dig he would go into like open graves and shit. Yeah. He was so fucked. He did, but all right, but Gacy fucked corpses, right? He worked in that he worked in that morgue I mean that is just you's not having it. He was not having it He may win he may win BTK. I don't think so though I don't think so though. The lights talk was so fucking crazy.

It was like insane. Like vicious. Vicious. Mean he would mock them. He would fucking like, there was this one thing in the car where it's like this woman who survived. He was in her garage and she was opening, she was in the door going into the house.

And he was in the garage and he wanted to see the look on the face so he slapped the head of the car so she would turn around and then she put her hands up She shot me she basically caught the bullet she got shot like a ring stopped it. He went down She went down this woman dude So so he steps over her body to go in and and to kill her roommate and again He did it with the roommate. He scared the roommate so she went into the counter and then just stood here like this waiting for her to

poop her head off. So she did he's like bang! With the woman who he thought he killed who was still alive and who was one of the bravest people she got down the street and she was like my friend's home I can't leave her alone she went back to the fucking house before calling the cops to make sure her friend was okay, but she goes, I went around to the front door because I figured he would leave the back door. He was coming out her front door while she was there

and she goes, he just stared at me and I stared at him and she goes, she held up her hand and went, you already shot me once today. Are you gonna do it again? And he just let her go. He just walked away. You're like, this fucking crazy. Like, how do you make sense of reality after this? You know, it's how do you even say anything? Like you're like, you go through the door. You meet up. You're like, Oh, shit. This is

guy that just tried to shoot this bastard. Yeah. And then you go inside and you're roommate. It is shot in the face in the kitchen. It's like, yeah. But I think BTK why he resonates so much as well. He's my numero uno is because he's your favorite. You can say it. No, no, no. Favorite would not be the right. Favorite would be like, you know, my favorite quarterback would, you know, but you know, it's say favorite serial killer. You just, it just doesn't say like, you're the killer killing. But, um, because BTK could have been, I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious.

I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious.

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I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be serious. like this demon from hell, it's like, that's why it's so like, riveting. Yeah. And you don't know how we got caught, right? Oh, you know, I don't, I'll leave it for you to discover. Yeah. It's very interesting. Oh, every very interesting. Yeah, everything you need to know about this guy though, is he was a dog catcher. Now, when you make it your life's work to catch dogs and put them. Yeah, that's You're a special brand of shit. Well, the way that, you know, not to keep back in my horse here, but the way that night started, I got- did you know how that happened? Like- Oh, you got caught? Yeah. Yeah.

Riding a bus and like, somebody was reading the newspaper, so we got off the bus and walked into this neighborhood and based in the whole neighborhood. Oh, yeah. Let's go get him! And that's a whole neighborhood just got him and beat the shit out of it to the cops. Now, how could they be certain?

Right? How could they be certain that they were fucking pummeling the right guy? I don't know, I think it's just a true picture. I'm asking. It's probably him. He wore pictures of him in the paper. Oh, okay.

It wasn't a draw. It wasn't, it had his name, they had his face and all stuff like that. He didn't, he didn't try to disguise himself. He didn't know, because I'm not okay. He didn't know he was on the papers until he walked into a deli and every fucking one was him and he was like, holy shit. And he got he jumped on a bus and a guy in the bus was reading the paper and was like, holy, you and then he got off the bus on a neighborhood

beat the shit out of him. They were happy too. They were celebrating. Yeah. Yeah. Same way after, I remember when the day sun of Sam was caught. Yeah, I remember it too. I came out of, I was at church and this guy came out of Katz's and he's like, they caught him, they caught the son of a bitch. And like at the time, I think we were probably like nine or something or 10. And I didn't know who he was talking about at first and then I saw the paper and I was like, oh, that guy who was going around killing, I mean, I didn't know who he was talking about at first. And then I saw the paper and I was like, oh, that guy who's going around killing,

I mean, I don't know the word serial killer at the time. I don't even know if it'd been coined yet. That's crazy. I hope we don't live through this again. Like I think that again, like a, like a, a standalone serial killer. I like a major type guy. I don't, they couldn't get away with it anymore.

I like the, oh yeah, they can. Yeah, with all the ring cams and all the, all the, all the, all the all the time. Maybe they maybe their career won't be as long. That's what I'd be. Yeah. But I'm sure, yeah, there, there's always going to be

a one or two. Yeah. But they also like they, like you see, so many times they, like they're not doing like the night stalkers, like, fucked up. They, they don't normally just invade houses. Yeah. Killing people, it's like, you know, they go after like prostitutes or people that you know will be missed and shit

And if you're doing that you can probably do it for a while Well also now though, man with the DNA you also you could get caught a lot quicker too when the especially well these hereditary That's how they got the golden gate strangenable. Yeah, the golden state Killer what they got it learned to kill her. Yeah, yeah, I mean The triangle or killer, what they call a triangle killer. Yeah, they learned to kill her. Yeah, I mean, they couldn't catch this guy. They thought he was dead and they did one of those DNA. For me, they were able to narrow it down. They got him. He was the next cop.

Really? Oh, man. I see that so many times on these forensic file shows where it's like, hey, it happened in 1983. And people are fucking jizzing all over the place when they rape somebody. They don't give a fuck because they're not like, it doesn't occur to them. And then you find like 20 years later, it's like the guy's 50 has fucking three kids, has six grandchildren. He's your boat and the keys, fishin'. Yeah, and they fucking bust up in there like, hey man, your DNA matched up with this rape and murder

from fucking, you know, 25, 30 years ago. God damn it. Yeah, it's like shit. That golden state strangler, was a strangler or killer? I thought it was killer, cause I don't think it strangled. It's a hillside strangler. Yeah. It was an L.I. Um, that was like 35 years.

They were certain he was in jail or dead, right? Yeah. And or that he just had the retire cause he got too old. Same thing with BTK Really, oh tell me the ending. No, I can't believe you don't know it. I don't remember You're just getting into huh? No, we've talked about BTK on this show before but I I my mind. Yeah Yeah, that's crazy and then the fucking you watch night stalker. I you gotta watch it dude Because the how great are the cops those two cops? You've got to watch it, dude, because the how great are the cops those two cops?

They're like talk about tenacious now how this not like high schools named after these detectives is is beyond me They're like heroes in the true sense of the word and the one guy Also caught the hillside strangler. Whoa. He's got two serial killers. They called him at three because the hillside Two guys today must have cut that one of all these TV shows about, you know, catching serial killers and cops, they have to be inspired by this guy, right? You get two and you don't have a TV show. I never, I asked Troy, Troy came by my house last week for something, right? He was on Staten Island and he came by with his partner

and I had just seen the documentary and I was telling his partner and I said, these cops, I was like, are they heroes in the industry? I'm like, do you guys all look up to him? And he was like, nah, I never even heard of him. And I'm like, has a possible, the guy called two serial killers. He should be teaching in every school.

I mean, he should be able to retire and just write books and make a movie about him, about his work. Maybe they did. Maybe is that what minehunter's is about? Minehunter's is based on a lot of stuff. It's great They're still alive and they're telling the stories and it's like and the document. He goes well like you love it like his wife Like the toll it takes on the family. It's like the toll it takes on the family obsessed

Yeah, and he would just be like look at he's like I he's like I have to go he's like, I have to go. He's killing people. And his wife would be like, no, I understand. And they start crying and I'm crying. I'm like, what's the point of it? And think about it, because they're doing that old gum shoe shit detective work. I mean, they don't have no help with the lab or anything. It's like, we're looking for a mask. They're looking for shoe prints.

And shit like that, which is fucking gotta be so difficult. Yeah. Oh, God. That's the only thing about in forensic files is you see a lot of stuff where you're like, this has been dismissed as junk science. Like, you know what I'm sorry, but I know what I like to ask Troy is like,

if you're a detective, how long can you go without solve on a case before you're like, you can't be a detective anymore? Like, could you just like coast like you get given cases? And if you can't get them solved, do they just be like, you gotta go back to being a police officer because you haven't solved any of your cases.

You're the worst detective. You're the worst detective. You're the worst detective. Because they're right, because I mean, it's gotta be hard as hell to solve a case. You have to be able to perform, right? Yeah. What's the matter?

It's gotta be easier today though. Yeah, what's up? We're doing tell them Steve Dave and we got a question for you. Oh, is that right? Yeah, Walt has a question actually. He wants to know like, you know, you're a detective. How long can you go without solving a homicide case before they're like, you know what? This may just this might not be for him. Well, if you're a homicide detective, yeah, like's say you go 10 years, and every case you ever got remains unsolved. Do you, is the department, like, kind of say, you're probably not cut out to be detective?

Or can you just coast to retirement, never solving a case? It's probably after, it doesn't matter for as many years, but however many cases you actually, if you catch a case after case And you don't solve and somebody else will look at it and find enough evidence to solve it We probably put you out of homicide Yeah, so it's more a situation like that like a homicide case Actually doesn't go away to all of us in Spain. That's why we are called cases never closed

But if anybody would like to look at your cases and like now It's all the evidence was right there from day one, you should have closed this like I made two, but it's 10 years later, yeah, you probably would. Do you look up cold cases or do you have enough like new stuff that you can't don't really have time? We have enough, especially lately, we have enough active stuff that you've been supposed to do.

So they have actually a cold case unit, and they usually take anything that's older than like seven to 10 years. So they'll take a look at it. And what they've been doing lately is because, you know, back in the 70s and 80s, there wasn't really DNA, so what they've been doing is they'll pull like, you know, evidence from back then, and submit it for DNA testing to try and see if they will come up now.

So that's, cold cases have become more active nowadays. DNA really is the bane of the criminal huh? Oh yeah absolutely. But they give that movie super bad. I thought the DNA is going to be everywhere. It'd be surprised to have new genes like there is no DNA evidence. So let me just shoot somebody on the streets. It's not a lot of DNA. So it's probably more helpful like you know up close and establish your domestics. So you prefer a stabbing over a gunshot? Yeah. If you got a pick one. Nice. Alright, thanks buddy. You think you would be a good homicide detective? Sometimes I watch first 48 and some of these people I'm like, damn, and they're good.

Like they're good, how fuck is that? Yeah, I think it would be interesting and it looks really, really like it would be satisfying to do, but again, we're just watching documentaries and it's all tied up in a fucking 60 minutes, a nice neat boat tie and all the hard work and all the I'm like I cracked them of the case. I say that everyone. All the all the hardships and all the all the things you missed in your family's life because you devote it yourself to this case, it probably

wouldn't be for me. I probably would be like, I don't know who fucking did it. What do you want me to do? It's not a family to find out. We just gave you the file. There's no way you could know who did it. Yeah, you have to, I think you would have to be real into like puzzles and shit, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like, detail oriented and and I think I think I

think I'm a lot of those guys. I bet you look at the the IQs of those those detectives who have started a guy who has two hundred belt. Yeah, I bet you they're nearing in the 148 stratosphere. Oh, you think? Oh, fuck yeah. Well, it's funny too, because the guy the the the less experienced detective was young. He was like 25 and he was a Mexican guy and it was like it was still the time, you know, things are different now. Everybody gets along but back then,

the detectives like that on the squad were like, get this fucking wet back at it. You know what I mean? And then he came up, he was the first one that was like, guys, these are all related, these crimes. This is a serial killer and he's telling the story. He goes, they left me, not telling the story he goes they left me Not joking he goes they left me out of the room

He goes there would bully me about it because my theory was that it was a serial killer and they were like no fucking Why what do you know you're a new kid on the job? He goes and then that guy who Figured out the hillside strangler was like this fucking kid should be my partner He goes and now I'm riding around with a legend. He goes and he goes, a lot of people had to eat crow. It's great, I'm telling the best part, right? Oh, eating crow, oh yeah. It's not good to eat, but boy, it's good to serve it up.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Love to serve up some crow. Don't get a chance to do it very often. But when I do, whoo, it's the best. Yeah, you gotta save her. I like to watch every bite. You got a little feather stick in there.

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Oh, really? Because I'm like, yeah, I'd like been like dieting half-heartedly and shit, but I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do it. There's it. I'm gonna do it. There's the weight again.

I have gained five pounds. Yeah. For every month that I've been married. Whoa. 40 fucking pounds do you believe that shit? How thin were you? Cause you don't look. I was like, one ninety eight.

Yeah. To say that you put on 40 pounds since June, I would be, I would have said, no, that's not possible. Yeah, you don't would not think that at all. And I wish it was June. It's August, at least June. August. August.

August. At least June, I believe. well, it's been a while. That is, that's depressing, you step on that scale. It really is, I do, I didn't want to do it. What are you doing differently? Well, I think my medication that I switched recently, that had a hand in it and probably not moving, like hardly moving at all, constantly in the house.

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Right, yeah, like I was, I weighed 240. And then I went down to 198, and then I'm fucking back up to 240 now. What was the, because like, if I'd throw in like an episode of a comic book man, like some of them, you're just, you know, it's insane, isn't it? It's insane that we let you like walk around. I think the same thing. I'm just like, how are they like not, like trying to get me into a side show or something? Like so what was that like what was that heaviest that was like at that heaviest

I there was because we do the comic book man podcast yeah And so we have to watch rewatch all the episodes which I really love But there's one shot like from the side where I'm like this is an But there's one shot from the side where I'm like, this is an excusable man. And at that, I think that weight would have been 305. Wow, yeah. So 65 pounds heavier than right now. But we're all winning all we watch.

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I mean, because it made me change, watching it, made me change my sideburn fucking. It's not a brain game. Sideburn game, brain game. And you know my oh wow my my sideburn fucking Wow, it's because to me look kind of the same you've always looked the same Right, but I think to I think to the outsider, but we all see different things when you watch it because like you know I'm looking you're like both you guys are like Crying about wait, and I'm like you you but I could say say it but no one's gonna believe it because you know like guys look fine You know you guys look for me perfectly perfectly fine and awesome I mean but I know the way you got I know what you guys are coming from you no matter what anybody says you're gonna

Feel that way feel it. Yeah, I feel my gut sticking out of my It's the worst I like I've been wearing sweats for months now months, yeah, I know you know We're in sweats. I've been wearing sweats for fucking decades. Yeah, but like there's nothing In fact, I really like them. I like wearing my Mac weldans The same time I don't want to be forced into them. Yeah, I want to wear jeans. I cannot stand wearing jeans, man.

I don't care how skinny I could not fucking, I just can't stand wearing jeans. It feels like I'm wearing a straight jacket on my waist. Like I need to have like, stretchable fabric on. Like some loose, I always like to get a jeans. Yeah, not me, man. I've never really felt comfortable in jeans So I always feel in jeans ready for action like that's why I feel and Yeah, maybe so maybe that's just it like I could take on you need me to fucking mind some call you got it You mean like run across a rooftop

I'm going to mine some balls. Yeah, it's a spreadery. You know what I say? You can go into the fucking bowels of the earth and mine some coal. I'm not going to do it in sweatpants. Isn't that when Levi's trust started during the Gold Rush? Yeah, that's why, yeah, it was all that coal mining shit. Gold mining. Yeah, so that's the fat news.

And anybody who wants to jump on the diet with me and share Results via Twitter. We'll keep you updated. Oh, yeah, if you care. I don't know if people care. Did you take a before photo? Yeah, I take picture. I'm just like I did last time I take pictures every day. Okay, so you know I can I should have taken pictures as I fucking ballooned up What if I stopped at one point? I don't know why I did like I don't know what because I knew I'm like well this doesn't fit right anymore. Well this doesn't fit right anymore. Yeah, why didn't I just stop and it's all fucking Mary Beth's fault because damn straight it is. I don't even need to hear the reasoning. Okay, good enough. Why is it her fault? We should give her her. Because during the, like, after we got married, then there's the honeymoon and she's like, well, just, you know, just eat whatever you want, you know, like we're on vacation, blah, blah, blah.

But that's what did it, like, it started to be back into that bad pattern of like, I can eat this. I'm fucking 190 pounds, I can eat this and I'd be the next thing you fucking know. Fucking out there, shopping for new pants. Yeah. It is her fault, I agree with you. Yeah, I noticed when I noticed that my t-shirt Was you know like wait like when you got flat stomach just hangs down

But if you got a tummy like it that like there's a gap. Yeah, I started noticing the gap I can always feel it in my back to like like my t-shirt I'll get too tight on my back and then you're right, it'll stick out in the front. And then I look like everybody that I judge. You know what, no, that's good though. If that's where all your extra weight goes is your back, you got fat back.

I got a little fat back here. I don't think that's the best place it can go though. I could hide it. Yeah. Right? I could punch a punch back. Yeah. Yeah.

it. Yeah. Right. I'm a bunch of hunchback. Yeah. But for motorcycle, that's not good. You don't have back fat on the motorcycle. That's true. That's the issue. We saw it and getting that season. That's all I wanted to do this summer. I would be like put on some jeans and a fucking wife beater. Yeah. Can I still say that? I'm not even sure. You know what I'm sorry. Oh, wait, I'm so, my bad. Gini-to- That you didn't still say. We had this discussion on Seth the other day and I said I'm not giving it up.

No? wife-beater. Yeah, I won't give it up. I'm just gonna start coming to you. I'm not giving it up immediately. I just want to even one tweet. He doesn't even see it as a tweet. He just sees it as dollar signs.

Oh no! I don't mean to ever call it that I won't bend over at the fucking moment's notice Did I sound like I was trying to be tough? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to apply that I wouldn't do whatever everybody said was okay Before we go, could we go on a high note? I love Hearing listeners that I did not think we're still even listening anymore. Like old fucking school listeners.

Like a Fitzman? Yeah. What happened to Fitzman? I don't know. I don't really see him on Twitter that much. Although I don't go to Twitter anymore. That was a fucking loyal listener. It's weird.

It's weird. Like solid. Yeah. But one has resurfaced after not hearing from them and for many a year, but Mike from the Wonder Brothers. Do you remember the Wonder Brothers? Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. They're hanging the Tom Steve Day. Yeah, we went to their art show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They're Houston, right? Yeah. Damn Texas, right? He is sending me a new painting Yeah, damn Texas, right? He is sending me a new painting That's gonna hang at the the general store called TSD versus Satan. It's an awesome Awesome painting, but it just wore my heart because he said I still Love and listen to the podcast

Dude isn't that great? Yeah From old school ants like that because like I always I always wonder like, what made them stop? What did I say? Just tell me, I'll tell them how to save me. Tell them, Steve Dave. I'm not going to do it.