Tell Em Steve-Dave - #506: Big, Blue, Boy Scout

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

Bry, Walt, and Q bring the razzle-dazzle of the Patreon show ‘I Buy Comics’ to TESD.

You should say that almost after everything you say. What I shouldn't have said that was an overstatement. You'll make your life way easier. And the more of a Boy Scout he is, the more I love him. I know you gotta go out, maybe shovel snow, and maybe do some errands, run to the post office. We're raging hard on you! Tell them Steve Dave! Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell them Steve Dave. I'm here with a BQ Hello, and I'm here with Walt's. Yeah on this blustery shitty cold day. God I fucking cannot stay

I think I think I may become a snow bird eventually Yeah, one of those people like like moves down to Florida Once they hit a certain age which is rapidly approaching once they hit a certain age, which is rapidly approaching. Yeah, it was like I went outside today to feed my various creatures and it was so cold. It was like, they were saying it was like one degree it felt like. Right. Out there. Oh, it's too much.

I've heard of a new method for combating the cold. I've not heard this before, but there's supposed to be a football game tonight in Buffalo, spiting it to be below 20 with the windshield minus 20 with the windshield. And the players have been told that they should take Viagra because it helps the blood move everywhere. Really? I maintain with all that body contact though, aren't there dangers of erection?

That's a risky move. You can't help it, right? It's against your will when you're taking the, that was kind of... Would you? If you're, I mean, if you're experiencing a certain amount of friction, I feel like regardless of the source, you end up with a...

Well, that's... I had never heard that before. I had never heard that either, but I mean, how much could, I mean, how much blood could it move around that it would make you worn? Uh, I, you know, since I, I can't say that I've ever had any experience with it.

Maybe, you know, maybe it does make your body temperature rise a little bit. Huh. I don't know. Yeah, but I, that was a headline in a, like a major news article. Really? Yeah. And, uh, like, like, like, don't they, yeah, but I that was a headline in a like a major news article. Yeah, and but like like don't they all have to get prescriptions? Exactly. That's what I was just like how do you get prescriptions that quick and get you know and filled by by game time? I mean when you got the NFL money, you don't even need

the prescriptions. They'll just get what you need. Well, what'd you consider, like, on a day like today? You know, you got to go out, maybe shovel snow, and then maybe do some errands, run to the post office. We're raging hard on you! Yeah! Oh, so I have a woody the entire time, no matter what I'm doing. You can just run my tons.

You can just run my tons. You're getting from a heated car. All you're doing is like the car, the walk from the car to the post office, is all you're warm for. So you're walking around with a giant boner just like women are shuffling their children aside for a kid. Don't go near them.

Sure is called out, huh? Yeah. How about this weather? I don't feel it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I might just put on like another, like a vest. Yeah.

Yeah. And let's say you want to maybe have some relations later on. Like how many blu-ch- how many? I want to say blu-choo. But how many of these types of enhancements, not enhancements, what I guess I'll just say about it. Boosters. Boosters, can you take in one day before it's kind of like not safe?

I think it's one. So you've got watch more and more. Do you have to keep more and more risk in your health and life? Or are you getting some, some, some, no, nookie in, you know, some body product, what evening? Yeah. What would Tom Brady do in this situation? Oh my God.

He would, if it meant winning a Super Bowl, I think he'd go celibate for the rest of his life. Really? Yeah. Oh my God. He would, if, if, if, if, when he's a super bowl, I think he'd go celibate for the rest of his life. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, I, I think a super bowl wouldn't, he would give up, um, ever have, he would have a dry dick for the rest of his life for really? Even, I think so. With his wife, he would still, he would still all those rings are ready. There's only one ring he should be concerned with at this point. I'd like to think he would be all in on the on the on the Super Bowl trophy more than you know,

and just out of our pleasures. That's how I'd like to think of Tom Brady. I like to think of Tom Brady. I like to think the opposite actually. He has kids, it's not like he needs to do it again. I mean, I'm sure he's gotten his fill of, you know. If anybody's got their fair share of ass, it's probably Tom Brady. I don't know for.

Oh, he's been married for quite a while. Yeah, it seems. Yeah. Is there a trophy that you would give up looking for for the rest of your life? I don't think so. I mean, I'm trying to think of anything I would be good enough to even compete for a trophy. I mean, I like that podcast awards we just won. We get another one

Yeah, the picnic Olympic trophy Sorry Frank, there's no pussy for life, but it's mine I have an MTV movie and TV award upstairs on my mantle that we won and I can tell you that it is, it is like when you're walking through your living room and you have that trophy there and you look at it, it's pretty nice. It's pretty nice, you know, you look at it, it reminds you of an achievement, man. So maybe there's a golden globe or an Emmy you that you might want, you know, that you would make us such a sacrifice for.

Oh, I mean I'm only 45. And how long do you, like, I mean I know everybody wants to think that, you know, you're going to go in your 90s. So it's only another 45 years though. It's only literally your entire life so far. Yeah. And I already went like the first like, like like what was how old is I got on you remember like 16 years Without it. So yeah, so you shown that you could do it. Yeah

You got this like with my luck like I would have done it last year for golden globe and then they would have fucking canceled the globe. Yeah all the award shows are being canceled right because of the Omni Chrome. I think it's that and the ratings are so low at this point. Yeah. Like people are just like we don't care and the celebrities are boycotting them for different reasons. Okay. You know, it's not enough diversity. So I'm not going to the golden globes in that way. They can, you know, where are you signaling?

Look like good people. The number is just keep rise and bro. It's just like everybody I know is like I'm sick you know I got I got COVID my mom my mom it just got over it yeah a little concern but you know she's okay now and she's she had all the shots oh really yeah I just got my booster the other day yeah yeah I just had your fair headache for like a day and a half But other than that nothing where'd you get it at Walgreens? You get it in your arm now? Yeah, I think that's Only place you have to get it right. I got it. I'm like sir

Well, I get my booster. I'm gonna ask for it in my Fanny because I don't think I because my arm hurt too much Yeah, I don't use I don't I mean I could just sit on my ass, but like my arm was just hurting. Sure, you're like I'm an artist, man. I can't fucking around with this shit. I don't draw with my ass. No, I don't do anything with it. How did you much of your mom better

worse than you did? Oh, much better. Well, obviously, she was a little nervous and I told her, it's like, you know, you really will probably have a very mild case. You had all the shots, so you should be fine, you know, trying to keep her morale up, but she's nervous, you know, she's of an age.

Yeah. But, you know, she's okay. She had different symptoms than I did. You know, she had like a horrible head cold. I didn't have any congestion at all. But everybody's different, it's great. I don't know. It's bizarre. I'm glad she's okay, man. Yeah, oh yeah, man. Knock on wood, man. That's it. She don't get it no more.

But yeah, but everybody, Victor. Victor got it. There's been struggling in. You know, he's, he had the high fevers, but yeah, he said he's getting better. I thought he had it already for some reason. Everybody feels like they've, they've had it lately. They do, I guess we already talked about it last week, though, but I think I said this though, they said that they expect in the spring though, it's going to be a much better place coming out of, coming out of the winter because of how many people have had it.

They'll be getting closer to the magic number for where you can start talking about herd immunity. Oh really? I thought we were supposed to be there already. I thought we were supposed to be there like last May or something. I don't know. That's what I heard on TV. I heard a couple of big brains saying that we're gonna be, it's gonna be rough, it's gonna be horrible to go through it because a lot of people are gonna get infected, but come spring though, we're gonna be looking a lot better in terms of the, where we're at now though.

Right, I saw that was really in this article about the instances of people dying that didn't have like comorbid, you know, like diabetes or something, and it's like, it's almost immeasurable. It's so small. It's like most people get better. Great. Yeah, I just never see, you know, it's fucking crazy.

I thought we were flattening the curve for the weeks. I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy, man. It's it's nuts. Who fucking knows? What are you gonna do? And then they said the CDC is recommending the K95 masks now for not for the general public yet. But they're saying like basically the same the fabric ones, like the ones that most people wear that look like, you know, like a dental hygienist would wear. They don't do shit.

I don't know, I can't believe that though, because you've seen like throughout history, you have seen doctors, nurses, dentists, assistants wear those masks. They have to do something. Yeah, they have to do something. I mean, yeah, to say, they don't do shit. Yeah, that was an overstatement, but they don't do nearly as much as they're supposed

to, I guess. You should say that almost after everything you say. What, I shouldn't have said that was an overstatement. They'll make your life way easier. It'll make your life way easier. So cute. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, no, I was going to say I'm with that. Even if it's a fucking 5% chance, that's better. I'll slap that thing on my face. Like that argument doesn't hold that much with me because I'm just like, but if it's any percentage, why wouldn't you wear it?

I don't know. For the same reason, you're like, you go out. Like you know, there's a certain percentage chance you may get. Well, I guess I mean, if like, if you're going on a plane or you're going, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're going to be breathin' the same air. Was it somebody? Yeah, I don't know. I't know if you had to wear the mask. I'll probably wear a mask on a plane I guess for the rest of my life at this point just because it also just fucking is a nice disguise too. It's nice Yeah, so that'll be sweet This this COVID thing's really working out Now that people look sexier and more attractive and masks

So I know Beth has me wear a five-foot knife. It has happened to me where I got mask catfished, where I was talking to someone and I was like, wow, this is an attractive human and they took off the mask and I was like, oh, put that mask back on. It looked like mask for me. Yeah, yeah, so it's happened on. It looked like mask for real. Yeah. Yeah. So it's happened to me.

I could tell you. I could tell you. That's said that people really are find people more attractive when they're wearing the mask. Because I guess you're only getting to see like a third of someone's face, the top eyes. Not their janky nose and their rotten teeth and shit like that. And in Britain, you know, if, if, you know, I don't know if it's a stereotype, but, you know, the teeth are not always, you know,

the best attribute of, of a Brit. Right. So we hear. So we hear. Yeah hear yeah, we can still insult Brits. It's all right We're trying to we're trying to change we're trying to do better We don't know we're gonna assault the Brits Yeah, I don't know man, you know, I I I it has happened to me So I know it's true because a nice that eyes is a nice that always on anybody You know You know it's when you throw in the other disfigurements that go on. You know, I'm talking about myself here.

You know, it's, you know, you got to reveal your flaws. Yeah. So for this, I mean, leading up to this episode, I cannot tell you guys how often I get bombarded with requests for us to do more iBi Comics. Show on Patreon. Show on Patreon. And that seemingly is the most requested show that people have. Oh wow. Yeah, they want more. And so I thought we would give them some more, but on the free. Okay. Tell them Steve Dave feed, a little iBi Comics.

I love it, dude. Some of those emails that you got might have come from me, even. I love talking comics, man. It's my favorite. Yeah. People seem to really dig hearing your thoughts on the comic book industry. Are you currently up to date? Are you following all the titles that you like? How is the industry? I'm at it a game. I don't work in a comic book store anymore, so I don't see or read any

current titles. I heard that the industry is still trying to recover from COVID. Yeah, it's what's good is good. You know, you're always gonna have your books that hold up. You know, some books are not as good, but it's not always the way. You know what I mean? Like the good is still good and the not is not. Do you find yourself buying as much

Today as you were buying maybe even five years ago No way way less way less. Yeah, the new crop of writers aside from some notables Haven't really landed with me Mm-hmm, and I think I might be my age. I think I might yeah, it's like yeah, bro Yeah, they're they age at a comics. Yeah, oh, I did, yeah. Yeah, well, the start, I mean, look, I didn't, because I still read it every week.

Yeah, he's on his way. Yeah, he's still a kid. He's still a kid. But I, you know what I have started doing is reading a lot of trades. I read a ton of trades of storylines that I loved. Oh, so you're going back to the stuff that you remember fondly.

Yeah, that's been happening, which is like, and I never really did that before. So it's like, so there's a lot of material there, and I've forgotten most of it. So it's been pretty good to me. Like I'm rereading Jeff Johns's Green Lantern run now. Again, and I just read that he's coming back to a flash point sequel. Yeah, so that's pretty cool. Like that's the sort of shit I'm into.

Like I find that like the idea, well, what's the matter? Why you don't tell it? No, you're, it looks like you're like speeding up like, it's like if you freeze and then when it catches up, you're in fast motion. Yeah, it's strange looking. It looks like you're going a million miles per hour. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I look for. Like, John's I always thought brought big comic book ideas to comic books.

And I feel like a lot of writers today, they don't seem to care about the big comic book ideas. They just don't. A lot of comics they just seem to be like mouthpieces for the author. And I'm like, I don't want that, man. Like you're not more important than the character.

So I wish you would stop doing that. I think the audience and myself, you would be a good editor at Marvel or DC because that's a great commentary. You're not bigger than the character. Yeah, you're just not. That's smart. But you know, I don't know that I would make a good editor because I don't know how long I've last. I think people would be like, this fucking guy out of here. This is our old people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Am I, my only tether to the, to the comic book industry at this point is me buying old material, you know, packaged in a masterwork or packaged in an omnibus. That's like the only connection I have to comics at this point. And it's the one that gives me, I found like, it's, it's, it's all I need. Like it gives me the utmost pleasure. And I'm happy with, with, what, how I'm proceeding in, with, in, with comics in 2022. That's great. Yeah.

I don't lose any of your role with that, right? Like in that, like, well, yeah, but I guess it's kind of sad though, that like like I have the zero interest in keeping up with any of the characters that I loved, you know, what they're doing currently. And it's not in a way that I'm mad about it. It's not. I just like that just kind of like it's I just don't have any interest in not in a bad way where I'm like I'm busy or or shaking my fist when I just defeated. But I thought since we sprung up, we had this idea kind of on the quick to do an eye by comics for all those. And who, and let it be said, Tom Steve Dave, we listen to the audience, they demanded some eye by comics, Brian. And they got it. And they're going to get it.

So I got to do. We'll bend you everywhere. I'm fine with that. I will say this while looking through, because you know, I'm mainly buying a comic's comedy these days. Digital. Yeah, digital has made the flip to that. I would say 95% of my books are DC.

Wow, that's surprising. Yeah. Yeah. I would have thought right down the line. I've always leaned DC over Marvel with but I've always like that's not no slam against Marvel like I also love Marvel, but I'm looking at my My my pull list right now and it is all fucking DC, dude And now how do you get rid of the books? After you bought purchase them like do they take up a lot of space get rid of the books after you purchased them?

Like do they take up a lot of space on your phone if you're to keep them? Well, it's kind of like, um, like do it on my iPad and the files aren't that big, but I have a comicsology account, which is Amazon. Amazon or it's a lot of college. So so now I just download the books that I want. And the good thing about the comicsology app is like, if you sign up, like I have the monthly, I sign up for like the monthly thing where a lot of their back library, like all that Jeff Johns Greenland and stuff was free.

It's called Borrowing the Book. You just download it and you can read it. It's great. And it's part of it. And then any new purchases, you get 15% off as well. So I find that the comicology app really works for me. Is he sneaking a commercial in here? I'm not. I've got no I've got no association with Comexology. They're not paying. They're not but that's what I'll do. So all my all my issues are in the cloud

But you once said something really wise you said if you own a digital copy of a comic, you don't really own the comic Not in a way that like of a comic, you don't really own the comic. You remember saying that? Not in the way that we have defined owning something. Yeah. Yeah, because you'll never be able to go to anybody and be like, man, I need some quick cash. Let me show my digital downloads of my back issues. Ain't happening.

But if you have some key issues and you need some quick cash, you could flip them. But this is for a reader's only and it's not for collecting purposes. If you're into the hobby for collecting and for trying to score books that may have value, increase in value in years, you're probably not into digital. No, definitely not because why would you even be interested at all? I do have a lot of the, what are the graded books? I have a nice, I realize yeah, you had a collection going here.

Yeah, yeah, I got a nice set. How many CGC books do you think you currently own? Probably about 15. And you sent them in or you bought them already graded already? Both, Both. Yeah, I tend to grade books that are like I have like this thing where I'll do like a book that's not worth much money like how like how how rainers like first appearance and costume just because I love it. I'll get it done. But I have like ghost riders first number one like his

first appearance of Johnny Blaze on the bike. Oh, Marba. spotlight five. I got that. I have a few ones that are up there in... I heard you had a, you told me I had amazing Spider-Man 129, great it, right? Which ones out again? First Punisher. Oh yeah, I do have that. I have first Punisher, great it. Yeah, like 9.42.

That's a big way of great, dude. That's a high roll or a real. Well, you know what I just waited to let, remember when everybody turned on the Punisher a few years ago? And suddenly, suddenly people are like, your Punisher see it, he can't ever be seen again. Nobody, I was like, yeah, perfect. I swung it and I bought it, but it looks like he's coming back,

which is great. Which is great. But like I said, since we kind of did this on the quick, we didn't have time to read anything and But I thought we could do Everybody's top five Favorite comic book character ever This is tough. Yeah, not Brian. I was a tough you

I have one I came with one. I thought it was Buddy Bradley. Was your foot? Oh, but oh, I forgot about Buddy Brad. Okay, I have to do that. Yeah. Well, you go first, right? Well, you know what, let me real quickly read to you from my tablet, something about Raycon. Yeah.

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Are they waterproof? Because now he's got blood running down the floor. Okay, so we're talking about favorite comic book characters. I thought I was judging yours, so I didn't come with that. Oh, we'll just give us your favorite one. I really like Deadpool. Deadpool. Yeah. Deadpool. That's a very popular answer. That would be like, you know, that's the every man answer. Like Deadpool is like Harley Quinn right now, you know,

like everybody's in a Harley Quinn outfit at the convention. Every dude is in a Deadpool costume. So you're that's okay though. I love it. I'm a poser, but I admit it. I really like the movies. I just I like this. The first, first, as far as comic book movies go, my experience being the Deadpool movies and the eternal. So I really like them.

I really like Deadpool. Yeah, Deadpool's good. Colin, Colin Bunn wrote the best Deadpool I ever thought. I thought Colin Bunn's Deadpool was legitimately like, he's become, Deadpool's become like basically like a class clown at this point. He's like Bunn Bunn. But there was, yeah, there was a brief period where he was in Colin Bunn's hands, where he was legitimately dangerous and insane.

And I thought that that was the best version of that character. It is Deadpool, one of your top five, cute. No. No, okay, all right. No, he wasn't even, I had a list of eight right here that I couldn't even like sort through. You can't whittle it down, you're saying?

No, I mean, I got it to the top five is six, but yeah, I got it, I got it rough. I mean, I know who my number one is It was never a question about that, but after that it kind of became like You know harder harder to cut people out your number one isn't buddy Bradley, is it? Buddy Bradley from hey to a comic series that came out in the early 90s. Yeah, somewhere on there Peter Back, right back. Yeah. Yeah. He And it's basically it's very Of the of the times very grunge

Based on like a it's a guy for who lived in New Jersey and moved out to Seattle and he's part of the whole grunge scene And he has his friend stinky who's like a total fuck up drug And now this was a comedy or what would you describe? Yeah, I was definitely up drug and now this was a comedy or what would you describe yeah yeah was definitely a comedian some yeah you know why it wasn't really the writing as much as the art like the the art was I don't know it would make me LOL yeah if you could find it like I found it for really cheap like the trade paperbacks they were like two dollars each on the bay. Yeah. So I picked them all up. I know they did a massive hard cover too of it.

Oh, did they? Yeah, like the complete hate. It's like a nice, beautiful, uh, you should look for it slip case and everything. I'll look into it. Yeah. All right. So you're going to judge us? Wow. I mean, because I've probably heard of most of your.

Yeah. I got a feeling that there's no deep cuts. Maybe there's one, of course a full killer. Oh Full killer. Yeah, what should be coming up on a bike comic sometime soon? Yeah, I'll sit back into full killer. All right, so what do you want to what do you want to start off with number five or your honorable mention? I don't know. You, I don't know, man. I, I, I, I'm so in knots about this list. I feel like the characters are listening and like they're going to feel. So you tell me, man, like how do you want to do it?

I'll go on my honorable mention first. Okay. My first on, so I have seven. I, I, I settled it down to my top five, but the first guy who didn't make the cut. and I'd middleed it down to my top five, but the first guy who didn't make the cut is a character called Grimjack, which I'm sure nobody listening or even at the table is that familiar with? Well, really, but it was a character, independent first comics by a writer named John Ostrander, and I always start to make a great movie. I really won't give that much into it because I don't think anybody can really appreciate it listening, isn't so obscure.

But it was about the, a mercenary, a hired gun who worked in a city called Sinisher. And it was like a city that would constantly be teleporting in and out of different reality. So like a street that was there yesterday, maybe gone the next day. And when a different street pops up, it's just a street that was there yesterday, maybe gone the next day, and when a different street pops up, it's just a street full of ampires.

Oh, that's cool. It was always changing, this city was always like, like warping into something else, and he was this tough ass old gun for hire who lost everything, and he was just like, you know, just that kind of comedy, like, you know, just that kind of comment. Like, you know, nothing all that new, but just placed in this where he'd be fighting ninjas, one epis, one comic, and then the next comic he may be fighting like, you know, space alien.

So it was just, this guy could do anything at any point and it was just a series that really I adored. I can't believe that it was never turned into something of an animated movie or a film though. Grimjack. Not the material, but I remember the name well because you and Kevin used to slug it all off. Grimjack. What company put them out? First comics and then when first comics went under in the late 90s or early 90s, IDW finally got the rights after a long legal battle. But it was never, you can never break through it in the industry itself to be like a top seller.

It was always going to be this cultish kind of comic book that if you knew what it was, you dug it. Tim Truman, you know, ever heard, he was the artist on it. He was the co-creator. I don't know if you remember that name, Q. No, not offhand. Hawke World. Yeah, he was never a bigk. Well, he was a very gritty, very, I loved his art, but you had Tim Truman, John Ostrander, Grimjack, he didn't make the cut. And I'm glad he didn't because surprise that barely remembers it. So getting judged on this. Glad he was an honorable mention. What do you got, Q?

I mean, I have four honorable mentions. I don't know. Go ahead. All right. So I got a spider Jerusalem is on the bottom of the list Oh, trans met trans met. Yeah and he was essentially Hunter S. Thompson in the future. He's a journalist On the right side, but it takes place in this futuristic society where everything's fucked up. Like this is great storyline about people who are frozen now.

Like, what do they call that? Cryogenics and like how like when they wake up in the future, like they're basically like people are like, why the fuck are you here? Like they're not, it's not exciting. Like, yeah, they're like, and they, and they come out and they come out and they have no property, they have nothing, so they're forced to live in these hovels with other people from the past. And it was like all sorts of weird ideas like that. And Spider-Jerusalem was this journalist who came out to fight the man in it.

And it was filled with all those ideas that I love so much, which is just like, you're not gonna see him anyplace else in comics. And Transmed, I thought nailed that man. I think that's a series that easily could translate to a film or a series. I'm surprised it has an War and Alice, Derek Robertson, as I recall. It's just so well done.

And each story arc builds on the one before it and and it's just it's just fucking and he's a great character. How many issues did that last word? Did it go 100? I think it did at least 75 because there's like 10 trades. Okay. Like I have the collection on my shelf. So he was a big one on that list. Ghost Rider for me. Ah, I am shocked. He's honorable mention. I'm telling you man, this is tough. This is tough. Which Ghost Rider is gonna mean a lot

to Brice final decision. Because Brie I'm sure wants to go old school with Johnny Blaze. And I know you're trying to go in Danny Ketch. I'm Danny Ketch, but I think. But Danny Ketch is my Ghost Rider, but I understand any catch is my ghostwriter but I understand that that that's most people would say it's Johnny Blaze. I couldn't argue with the

Johnny Blaze guy. Who is is it Robby race? Is the new ghostwriter? Yeah that I could argue with. I mean I remember I was in Marvel's office when that first came out, Robbie Reyes came out and It was the first issue came out with him in that car instead of the motorcycle, right? It's a charger now. I think or something like that Johnson with the well It's I think it's Bryce car, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, you are Robbie Reyes And I was in the Marvel's

Office and I was getting a tour and they were like oh you want to see the ghost rider at a room because it has all the future covers and artwork on the wall and stuff and I went in there and I remember talking to the editor at the time. I don't remember his name and I was like, Oh, the car. I was like, we made you go with the car. And he goes, he goes, you're not sick of that motorcycle. He goes, everybody's sick of that motorcycle. And I remember looking at this guy being like, you said, you didn't go. Yeah, yeah, I'm sick of that motorcycle and I remember looking at this guy being like You didn't go yeah, yeah, I'm sick at a car

No, no, I didn't say who's a who've but I remember being like well I I like the motorcycle but like I remember thinking like I don't know if a guy who doesn't like the motorcycle Should be in charge of the go strider Get it and Robbie Rayas as a character has done absolutely zero to earn his spot. He's done nothing. The car looks stupid. Like it's just dumb to always have this car. Like in the middle of an Avengers battlefield

there's something like that. You're just like, where's he draw? I don't know. I never got into Robbie Reyes. Now what makes you like Danny catch so much? I mean, I know it's probably right in your sweet spot. Yeah, it was my sweet spot. It was, in fact, I was aware of Danny catch before Johnny Blades. You know what I mean? Like, big difference. Because when Johnny Blades came back, I was like,

who's this fucking old man with the ponytail? So you get the fuck out of here. Yeah. But since then, I've come to learn Johnny Blaze as much. This is a tough one that didn't make the top five Sandman. Wow. And have you and now has the Sandman TV series started yet? No, no, okay. I thought I thought I thought I saw it. I think it a podcaster something. Yeah, they did like an audible. Oh, okay, that did like an honorable. Oh, okay That's where I was hearing so much accolades about I assumed it was a television series

Yeah, that's that's tough. I mean are you know, I I like to say a man series. I wasn't as Smitten-witted as like other people were I I Kind of like old school comics like I don't need the high brow stuff. I kind of like people, I like to see costume men punch. Yeah. Costume villains, you know, I don't need, I don't need like a heady discussion every issue. Sure.

Between Morpheus and death, you know, like I can appreciate it. But you know, I guess I'm kind of like low brow, you know, and I'm proud of it. Yeah, I you know what's the man? Lowbrow's built this country. Goddamn right. You were saying you were saying you were saying you were saying.

But I got it. I got to that's a series that has it's it may be considered the greatest comic book series ever written. that has, it's, it may be considered the greatest comic book series ever written. It's in the discussion. I mean, talk about a comic book with ideas. I, you know what I mean? Like, like something you really couldn't see anywhere else. I thought Sandman brought that to us and I, I loved it. I mean, it was like mind blowing to me.

It was almost like when I read Swamp Thing by Alan Moore. I was like, I didn't even know that this shit was even possible in comics. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, this is so crazy. And the ideas are so dark and out there that it really blew my mind. And Sam, Samman was one of the big. I am really on my edge of my seat. I know no one can see it because if these are his honorable mentions, what's gonna be his top five? Right, these are some good picks, right?

Yeah, by final honorable mention is a colorayner. And he is one of my favorite characters of all time. So for him to not make the top five, it was a fucking internal struggle in there. So this is Green Lantern. This is a guy who took over for Green Lantern in the eight, no, early 90s, 91, 92. And he had a very lengthy run, very beloved character.

Like one of the few replacement characters that connected so well with fandom. There is a segment that wanted Hal Jordan back, but they also didn't want to see Kyle leave because he was so likable as a character. Yeah, I think he's a better character than Hal Jordan overall. Hal Jordan, I find, not that I don't like Hal, but it's like a one note thing

with Hal every single fucking time. We got it, you had dad died in a plane crash, you know what I mean? Like, you're the man without fear. Like, when he was his most interesting to me was when he came back to life and everybody hated them. Because what happened was how Jordan went insane and killed the entire Green Lantern Corps. And that's how they introduced Kyle Rainer.

He, they brought it down to one Green Lantern, one guy. And he was in experience. It was almost like the greatest American hero type shit where you didn't know how to fucking do things correctly, and he was like the new kid on the block, and then when they brought Hal back, because of Jeff Johns, everybody hated Hal, because they were a bad guy. Like, he was possessed at the time, but like, people were like, fuck you Hal Jordan, and that was one of his most interesting to me, when even fucking, who's the killer wand was like, dude, get out of my face.

Like that, I thought it still was way more interesting. And he became parallax, right? He became parallax, yeah. And he was possessed by a yellow demon in his body, right? Like that's what happens. But the demon was parallax, yeah. Well, what happens is inside each The green lanterns are powered by these batteries Brian that are shaped like lanterns

And there's like a major there's like a giant one on each planet that has Like there's there's a red lantern yellow lanterns blue lanterns and inside each of these lanterns is a living energy creature. And the yellow one was parallax, and he got out and possessed how Jordan turned how Jordan into parallax. I mean, that was all retcons. Yeah. Initially, that wasn't, I mean, no one was thinking that. They literally, G.C. was like, let's just make my mass murder.

The guy who's been a hero for the last 50 years, they were like, they greenlit, get the greenlit. Yeah, that's cool. That he would become a murderer after saving the universe. I don't know how many times in his career, but yeah, he would go out as a murderer, but you know, it was a good move, I think, not to let them that to be his legacy, though. Does he ever heard of the whole time or he became a murderer? He was possessed by this creature. Oh, that's when I thought but then at austra and they're got his their hands on him and made him a specter. Yeah, he's right. Yeah, then he was the specter. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's that's my

fucking Hal Jordan. That's my Hal Jordan, the specter Hal Jordan. Yeah, I liked that. Yeah, that's that's my fucking Hal Jordan. That's my Hal Jordan's vector Hal Jordan. Yeah, I like that Yeah, I forgot about that Go ahead. No, it's just because like they kept up the horror vibe of the comic like when Hal Jordan was in it and And you had this guy who was responsible for the death of fucking thousands Dealing with the fallout of that and and I was like. And that's where he met, he saw Green Arrow for the first time, and he did such a good job of like selling the creepiness of your best friend becoming a murderer, then coming back to life as a ghost and deal.

And it was like, I thought it was really well done. So that, I really like that run of Hal Jordan. It's weird. It's weird too. They have never collected that series in any format. Really? The Greenland Inspector, you know, nothing. Not the first issue, like maybe they would even do one trade paperback, nothing.

It's like the only way you can read it is in those single issues. I find that strange. And they've done an omnibus of the Spectre, but it's all the 60 stuff. Right, right. My other honorable mention, is it somebody you're gonna recognize, Brian? Frank Castle, the 60 stuff. Right, right. My other honorable mention, is somebody you're gonna recognize, Brian?

Frank Castle, the Punisher. All right. Yeah. Yeah, not one of my top five, but a character that there was a time when I was like, ah, there's nothing cooler than the Punisher. He's got white boots.

Yeah. Yeah. But he's one of my top fives. He has an aged well though. I Disagree the concept of a punisher has not aged well. No, I mean I disagree man. I think you I mean the concept of somebody going out And taking the law into their own hands with a gun. Yeah We have seen in real life that it is, uh, it is very polarizing. But he was found innocent. So must mean the Punisher is a good guy.

Well, in the comic books, you know, what the, but in the comic books, you could, all we, you, you, you have the ability to, to, without a doubt, show that the people that the Punisher is killing deserve that and more. Right. Yeah. It really like you don't have those people. You, there's new child pornographers, they're, they're, they're Italian hitmen. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the Punisher wouldn't kill somebody for hitting them over the head with a skateboard. He might. No, thanks. I don't think so. I mean, but you look at Garth Dennis' run on Punisher and you're like, it's, it's so character defining, man. And at Garth Dennis' run on Punisher and you're like, it's, it's so character defining, man. And like Garth did a good job of walking that like he never, he never made it so the Punisher was a good guy or was living a good life.

He was always like obsessed. You don't mean done, right? It's like the same reason we watch fucking horror movies. Like nobody's saying fucking Freddie Kuhner is a good guy or to be emulated, but I love watching them. Like why can't there be stories about an insane fucking? And the thing about the Punisher that I loved, that we might be at a road on this. I don't know how much more this can go, but he's the only character as far as I know

that aged in real time. Like they never Made him yeah Yeah, but but up until up until like really relatively recently he was that guy. He was in his late 60s And I don't even my when I fell in love with the puncher what punisher wasn't even from The the NS Ron it was like the Mike baron stuff and the stuff even before that the Stephen Grant Mike Zek yes no me too that's that's when I got into him as well Tex era was my guy he was my guy war journal his war journal man was the fucking best I loved it and and but En's for me took all that and made it into something

even more badass. But he really took the character into the heights that probably haven't been seen since. But yeah, I mean, just the most simple concept, you know, is still shows. And then you're still so much you could do it it. It's so interesting a character, Frank Castle. Yeah. Yeah. And even when, I mean, anybody listening to this, I couldn't urge enough. I think it's called Welcome Back Frank, right? Right.

Yeah. If you find Welcome Back Frank, which is when Garth and his took over the character, because before that, he was an angel. You remember this? I get shit. shit for Bernie writes and which you would think would be better than it was. Turned the Punisher and he's had some weird fucking turns over the years but like he was essentially he died. He went to heaven and was turned into a hitman for heaven and he had these glowing eyes and like this symbol on his forehead and these guns that would shoot like angel fire. Yeah. And it was a flop. It wasn't a good idea. And

Garth and his acknowledges it like in the beginning of welcome back Frank. He doesn't throw it out. He's like, yeah, they took me to heaven and and and I rejected the laws. It was a good take on it, man And then the other one was Franken Castle. You remember Franken Castle? Yeah, they turned him into a Frankenstein-esque monster. Yeah, Wolverine Sun as I recall Jacken, right? sliced him up and killed him and so they took him in the sewers and put him and like made Frankenstein out of and killed them. And so they took them in the sewers and put him and made Frankenstein out of the Punisher. And they called it Franken Castle.

And it was like two years he was Franken Castle. And I gotta be honest, it was way better than it should have been. Like it was better than it should have been. Like I remember really enjoying parts of that run, knowing it was temporary, knowing that, you know, this was just a wild take on the character. What a character is that old, you will see some weird concepts come out when it's when he's decades old. I mean there was a point where they they turned that the

punisher needed to have his skin died to become a black man. Oh. Yeah. So, man. Oh my god. It was in the theaters at that point. Did he also have like a tight half rope? Yeah. Like what? It was like so bizarre. It was crazy.

Yeah. They're going to make some questionable choices on the time. That's what happens. Oh, if you have a character who's your decades old There's gonna be moments. There's gonna be high points a low point and I have Who is the artist Steve Dylan that did a lot of Punisher? I have an original Steve Dylan framed on my wall. It's the one where he finally fucking

on my wall. It's the one where he finally fucking gets one over on Ma Nuchi and she's like on fire and stuff like that. Near the polar bear, like after the polar, like there's an issue where you fucking punches a polar bear in the face dude. It's fucking like his enemies throw him. This is why like don't tell me the punisher is not a great character. They throw him into the polar bear cage in Central Park Zoo. And they come in and like, or he falls in it, right? And they come in to kill him. And he's like, how am I going to take these guys out? Because he's been shot like a couple of times, he's got no weapons. So he just goes up to a Polar Bear and straight up fucking jacks

it in the face. And the Polar Bear goes nuts and starts killing everybody in the cage. And you're like, this is fucking awesome, man. You know, it's great shit. Yeah, that's Garth Ennis' that was, yeah, one of Garth Ennis' early runs. So Punisher, great character in my top five. He's number three. He is number three. Now, did you hear about the, he's coming back and they're, but a different type of Punisher

Marvel is doing. They're changing the skull. Yeah. And they're but a different type of Punisher Marvel is doing they're changing the skull Yeah, they're taking no more guns. He only can use ninja swords It's just temporary though. Yeah, it's just yeah, it's like a temporary Okay, it's like you know, it's just like when Superman died. Oh, okay Partially back at one point using guns. I need the polar bear punching punishment. All right. So he was number three though. Huh? He's number three. Punisher was number three. I've always loved Punisher. I know. Sorry. Number four. Number four. What did I do

here? Flip flop them. I fucked up. I've got 10 more honorable mentions. I have one more honorable one more and that's the Joker. Wow, interesting, you know, most people would be would be putting heroes or anti heroes in the list be cute, throws a curveball with the Joker. He's in the he's in the he's in the fall he's in the under the five, but he's the Joker man, I mean, he's the fucking Joker. He's in the, he's in the, he's in the, he's in the, he's in the under the five, but he's the Joker, man. I mean, he's the fucking Joker.

So he's the best, the one of the time too, then if he's, if he's, he can be, I think he can be. Yeah. I, it is a lot of bad takes on the Joker. But, but yeah, so he was in there. Okay. So number five, rounding the bottom of the list. So Punisher's number four then. Okay. Yeah, number five. Yeah. Jesse Custer preacher. Now you brought you have very familiar with that. You read it. Yeah, read it. I watched the show. I

liked it. I liked it a lot. Though I would probably say like Cassidy more than Jesse Custer, right? Yeah. Well, Cassidy's a more fun character to read maybe, but there was something to Jesse Custer's strict moral code that I fucking really liked. Like he was a guy that took no bullshit. He was like an old school cowboy brought to life in a in a

comic book and and he had some like very stern black and white moral codes that I thought were great great in that book like he just used them they were used against them sometimes. Um great character and and Cassie was definitely more interesting and more funny. but the end of the day, Cassie was a bit of a scumbag. He tried to fuck his wife's ass. He was a piece of shit, you know what I mean? I couldn't, you know, I don't know.

Although he did have one of the best lines I've ever read in comics, I thought Cassie and that's towards the end of the series when after he tried to fuck to look and ruin this friendship with Jesse Custer and He was asking Jesse for help and Jesse was like dude go fuck yourself man like you're at your piece of shit You're an asshole. You're a drug addicted like vampire and and Cassidy turns to him and goes well It's real easy to stick by your friends when everything's going well He goes, but what about when your friends are on the road to hell? Not so easy.

And that's a good one. I was like, fuck, that's, I mean, I paraphrase it a little bit, but I was like, that is a good fucking line. And then, and then, you know, I don't want to ruin the ending of it, but like it turns the whole book on that one line. So fucking Cassidy has one of my favorite lines and comments. I can't argue with you, man. So fucking Cassidy has one of my favorite lines of comments. I can't argue with you man Can you imagine if you were to go back in time when when preacher was being published and I would tell you that DC abandoned the vertigo line Insane is like unbelievable that they are just like there's no market for vertigo books. They just don't sell, so they just killed the line. You're almost like, what world am I living in Vertigo?

Sandman, Vertigo was Sandman. Yeah, Vertigo was swamped. Was it all that Alan Moore and the Vertigo? All that smart stuff, all that kind of like, definitely for a different audience than a Spider-Man or the Avengers or Superman Batman. There was a different attempt being made to reach a different audience and

they're just like, yeah, we're shutting it down. Yeah, hell blazer. Yeah, you know what they kind of relaunched it as black label, but not really. But Vertigo will be back, right? Like you'll see the data. Yeah, at a certain point, I have to think they'll slap that label on something. My number five, and this is what a caveat though. Robin.

Oh, wow. I know that's a weird one though, because it's only the- Which Robin? It's only the marvel wolfman, George Perez, new teen Titans Robin, where he's struggling with, with like I need a new identity I don't want to be just under the shadow of Batman. I want to take these short shorts off and become a man. I want a fuck starfire

That's where he threw up right there and he just became so more inter much more interesting to me as a character than just being the boy wonder. I love the way that George Perez drew muscles in his legs like man I just want a legs like that never could achieve that never tried. Never tried. But boy, then, I loved the Dick Grayson as Robin in the new Teen Titans becoming Nightwing. And there was a point like all these characters in my top five, you know, at different points of my life, they were my favorite characters. This would be my, probably like my, my 15 to 16 year old self, just falling in love with the decrease in as a character. And second guessing, everything being like, what would Batman do in this instance?

You know, they're looking to me because it is because I know Batman, like am I my treading on, you know, like just getting the benefit of the doubt because I'm associated with Batman. And this is so interesting. And such like he was so unsure of himself, you know, after all he did, he still was like, am I worthy of leading the Titans? Yeah.

Which is fucking crazy, because you would think like trained by Batman and fighting crime since you were like a teenager, you would... Well, not even like a fucking eight-year-old. Yeah. Unless they read Con that out. I got to imagine they read Con that out by now. It never made sense, Robin, right? Like that was always the thing. Like, why is Batman bringing a child into all the danger?

Story wise? No. I mean, sales wise are probably like, you know, what'll get the kids back to reading Batman back in 1938 and they were like, uh, throw this kid in there. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, eventually. Go ahead.

No, no, no. Do you find that like, how many were, was, are we at too many Robbins? Are we at too many Batman at this point? What question? That you're only going to get that question, I by comics. If you're listening, I saw comics, I by comics. If you're listening to that, I still comics,

looking for that question. Good luck. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a signal, another Batman now in New York City. You're just like, the fucking League of Batman, Batman Inc. You're just like Jesus. Yeah, we are definitely at, there's too many robins. Tim Drake, he was introduced just as my love affair with current comics, if you wanna call it, but like then current comics is

kind of winding down. I'm finding less and less enjoyable, but I still found Tim Drake to be an interesting and good addition to Batman universe. Is he still Robin? He's still Robin. Yeah. He was back in the while. Damien is also, well, he was still Robin. Yeah, he went about a while as Damien is also well

Oh, well, he was red Robin and I think he's back to Robin now, but Damien I Don't know I would like to say he should have ended a Tim Drake, but man. Do I like Damien? I really like that kid So Damien Brian is a Batman's This was a good trick who did this I forget like there was a out of continuity story where Batman fucked Rosagull's daughter and and she got pregnant and then that string was abandoned right like nobody touched that For decades that story always had son of the demon. Yes son of the demon. That's it and my bar It's always can Mike bar. Okay, great. So Mike bar writes on the demon and it's a story where Batman has sex and a pregnant a Tarazza

Gold son and then it was ignored for I would say 20 years maybe even Oh, it's just a lord. Yeah, and then Some writer and I wish I remembered who to give credit to was like Batman's got a son. And like, and if like, or daughter, but it turned out to be a son. And all this time that we haven't seen him, he's been trained by Batman's greatest enemy, the league of the league of assassins, shadows, right? And, and then he comes back and the kid is straight up fucking psychotic. He kills. He kills without, he killed like his first answer is death. Like that's where he's at and like he thinks his father's a pussy And he tries to kill

Everybody doesn't every son like that at some point in their lives Like my dad isn't Batman He's like you are a pussy because you will not kill he tries to legitimately kill Tim Drake who is Robin at the time and Batman's like all right. I have this psycho son The only thing I can do is make him Robin to keep him under my fucking wing and he was trained since birth that Robin makes sense to me like him going out and fucking and fighting crime at night to stop him from just killing people, like at least like in Combo Glodja get makes sense. But you know, now I just, I

couldn't even tell you how many robins there are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The answer to the question is, yeah, there's too many robins. Yeah. But that's my number five. Oh, you're number one. Who's your, who's your number three then, right? Well, that was, well, it was Jesse Custer was five, four was Punisher, three Spider-Man. Wow. Three is Spider-Man. You know what, this is unbelievable

because my number three is Spider-Man. Oh, all right, I like this show. Yeah. That's crazy, yeah. All right, so what turns you on about Spiderman? Well, he was one of my main reading when I was a kid was spider man. They're saying yeah, and that cartoon for me that 67 cartoon. I don't know if it if it has the same kind of It's in the middle of a motion that it for you. But for me, I watched it every day after school.

I loved it. I adored it and that, like, made me just love the comics of that era. But you're, how old are you when you start reading this Spider-Man? Uh, well, it probably, that's in the 80s. So we're looking at Black costume, Black costume Spider-Man was kind of my intro to them, um, all the venom stuff,

like all the McFarlane stuff like later on, all that shit, like I really loved. Arguably the best costume in comics. I would have a hard time arguing against that. Yeah, I would have to make him Superman and Batman three most identifiable costumes. Absolutely, yeah. Wonder Woman maybe get thrown in your territory.

Yeah, but you know, I like the Clone Wars, like the Clone saga. I know people hate it. I fucking ate it up. I love Ben Riley as a character. I got so into it. Now, are we looking at another problem, Walt, where there's too many spider people?

Like you can't even, like, remember when there was a clone and everybody was losing their fucking mind over it? Now it's like, there is, like, the appeal of spider-man appears to be an infinite amount of spider-men these days. And I say, it's hard to have that many spider-men running around and not feel like it's less special. That's me personally, but I mean, I also know that that could be hate speech though too. And I don't want to

do the feds after us. Yeah, I just don't like to me. I think that just like it's, but the same thing is being done with Batman though. So it's just to go to it I just don't like, to me, I think that just like, but the same thing is being done with Batman though. So it's just to go to, it's just like when you need to, like, you know, you need to break the glass to, it's an emergency, you know, because the industry is like floundering and you're like, hey, what's going to sell more Spider-Man? That's why they do it. I mean, it sells. So it's, that's why there's that many Spider-Man.

Yeah. Yeah. But I, but there was a point in my life when I was first getting the comic books, I just wanted all Spider-Man action. I would go around doing this. For the web shooters. For the web shooters, as I'm running around grocery stores, pretend that I'm shooting web.

Swinging from any rope that I saw, like I'm Spider-Man. Like I love Spider-Man. And there's like two Spider-Man books For me to get my rocks off This is amazing Spider-Man Marvel team up and then as a little bit older than Peter Parker spectacular Spider-Man So there's there's three once 1977 rolls around but That's when we had a tough one spider-man and we may do Yeah, it was just weird because like I I almost feel like the cutoff point should have been Miles Morales because like

Miles was introduced In an alternate universe. I actually think they made a mistake when they brought the universe. It's for me, obviously they don't think that. But I thought it worked better when Miles was in his own separate universe. Like this thing now, there's Miles, there's Spider-Man, Ben Reilly's back as Spider-Man, Spider-Gwen. It's just like this endless array of spider people

where you're like, do they not think that Like the reason Ben Riley words for me is because it was so shocking that he was a clone of Peter Parker Like it was such a weird idea that you're like wow I dug it, but now you're just like everybody's a clone of fucking Who's your spider artist? You're one your one B all-end all spider-man artist Who's your spider artist? You're one you're one B all-end all spider-man artist Mick Farland what's no junior? Oh John remedied no, you know what it would be it would be the big bagley or John or moda junior It would be one of those who probably bagley if I'm gonna be if I'm gonna have to call it gun to my head

Oh I was about to put one to your head so you're lucky I was about to put one to your head so you're lucky. It's a serious illness here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You know, I do have a page of a preacher, an original art page of preacher, that Moser

bought me when the book was still going, and I'm sure he paid like a hundred fifty bucks for it, but now it's probably worth like ten thousand dollars. You remember when Cassidy gets stabbed in the eye when they find out he's a vampire, I have that page with the knife in his eye. It's framed in it's framed in my hallway right now. And Moshe just sent it to me out of nowhere like 15 years ago. Nice guy. Nice. Yeah. So what are you thinking so far? Who's who's got the lead? Well, you're like give me your five in your four Q. Well, you're giving your five and your four Q.

I'm looking at three. You've revealed three of your five. Yeah, right. I got Jesse Custer, Punisher and Spider-Man. I've got Robin, Spider-Man, and I'm about to reveal my third one. All right, away and after your third one. Okay. This is where I'm going to lose it right here, but yeah, I got to remain true.

Congratulations, Q. It's a character called Werewolf by Night. Oh, Jack Russell. Jack Russell 70s book had 43 issues, none of which stand out other than two, where off by night 32 and 33 because they introduced the character Moon Knight who's gonna be, I think make a huge splash on Disney's

plus live action Marvel Universe series. But just a teenager in Los Angeles who has a family curse that turns mental wear wolf three nights out of the year. And I loved it as a kid and I still love it. If I had had one character to work on, like Marvel's, like you can have a book, I don't want a regular series,

just give me four issues, that would be the character. I would choose because nothing's really been done with it. Nobody cares about it. And I would just bring it right back to what it was. You know, right back to what it was. I know everybody's going in would be like, I would change this, I would change that, I would do this, and I would totally alter this and make it somebody else that I'd be like, nope, I want to bring it just exactly what it was when I was a kid the same goofy villains the same relationships with the female Topaz and he had this best friend who was like 15 years older than him they buck Nobody knows what I'm talking about, but That's one of my favorite characters and they're about to release it this year in uh, they really released all of them in in a An omni bus, but they're about to remaster

them, Q, in, uh, Marvel masterworks, they're going to go back in and they're going to be so crisp and the colors are going to match the, uh, the original comics from the 70s, uh, that I cannot wait at a hundred dollar volume. But I, um, I would spend five times that much for this season. Yeah, that's how much I love that. And again, there's not really, like, I could talk about it, but nobody knows what I'm talking about listening. It's just too obscure, but that's one of the ones that I love that character. And I go back to that series and it still brings me

right back to being like a little kid and like sitting in the back of my mom's car driving around and like just loving that series. I've always loved the concept of a monster as a hero. Yeah. That always appealed to me because I love to watch monster movies as a kid too. And I always loved like that Marvel was like, well, we'll just take Dracula Wolfman

and the Frankenstein monster. And we'll just make him ours. Like, I'll reintroduce him into the Marvel universe and they'll team up with Spider-Man. It's such a goofy concept, but for a kid in the 70s, it was like, you know, that was where I got my wood, you know. Yeah.

Keep it more. Today it's Bluetooth back then. Did you re-blade were you a Blade guy? Blade was a two-madracula, you know, Marvel, Wolfman, Gene Colin, basically shaft, just introduced into this series. I love the character, you know what? I mean, just because it was so different, you know,

like here's a black vampire hunter, who's a badass. It was just like because it was so different, you know, like here's a here's a black vampire hunter Who's a badass? It was just like it was awesome. It was so cool and I Love that character, but I have not seen to date a good solo blade series It just hasn't happened yet Everyone starts out and it get and they just they there's a lot of missteps and inevitably it gets canceled almost Two years in they can only mail us two years Pull the plug and there hasn't been a blade series and forever from Marvel. I don't know why I was moving to awesome I think he's on the Avengers now. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, how about that?

The the blade movie the first one. What'd you think? Great. I first first and second one I like I hold equally the third one starts to get a little out there a little bit But but I like the first and second one quite a bit I wanted to see it in the theater and I just could I was expecting you know Nothing I was expecting like them to be wincing the whole time and covering my face and just looking around and being like This is the fucking greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. I loved it like them to be wincing the whole time and covering my face and just looking around and being like, this is the fucking greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.

I loved it. I wouldn't be awesome. Like, why not bring Wesley Snipes back, is Blanket? Dude, I cannot understand how they're not doing that. He looks fucking great. Why? Why aren't they doing it? I don't know, man.

They recast blade and when I heard that and the guy who they cast, I'm sure is great. Like, you know, he's good and other stuff but like, fucking Wesley Snipes is still alive. Still looking good. He's up there. Yeah, I was gonna say he's probably like close to six. Get him a trainer.

If he even needs one, I don't know if he does. I don't think he, I don't think he. But you know, get him ripped and try to him out there. Man, people would love it. All right, how old do you think Wesley Snipes is? I'm gonna say 62. I'll say 59. 59 exactly.

You could like how fucking great is that if you got him back as blade like why not? He's not too old. Is it the tax thing? Is it is it really like there's like this being held against him? Like could there be like was he blackfold in the in Hollywood? Because he hasn't really gotten a lot of roles.

Yeah, maybe like what do you do that was so egregious other than not pay his taxes? I think it's a tax is debt to society. You're right. I think he seemed a little unhinged during all that though. Yeah, there'll be more to the story, I don't know. We were at Comic Con, God, this has to be like, it was right after Wesley Snipes got either out of jail or when the fuck was he out?

2013. So yeah, it might have been 2014, right? I was at Comic Con and What's this time so I was a we were at the DC party right and they were having this big party and He was there and he was dancing by himself and a quote it was right after he'd got out of prison And I remember looking at him and I was like like there was that it was like a Nobody was going near and I was like Is it because of is it because of that or is because everybody so intimidated to him to me He was still given off movie star vibes. Yeah, like I would be yeah, like yeah, I wouldn't go near him Like you know some people you feel comfortable going up to be like dude. I fucking love the movie, you know

Blade blah blah, but he gave off this thing where it's just like there was there was a respect circle around them But I didn't know if it was respect or crazy. I would love to have him back as blade man. You know Marvel sometimes they know what they're doing though. I mean he was, you know, he was in coming to America part two. He was just in that. So, oh, maybe, maybe I think it's a mistake to recast it while you still have him alive and in good shape. I don't know 100% agree I am like you wouldn't do nothing but excite the fan base I think to have him shoe horned into the Marvel universe Yeah, I'm how I make those old ones cannon. Yep, you know what I mean like make them cannon bring them in even if you want to make a new blade Right somewhere someone take up the panel the torch. Yeah, like but but to not use was this time

Yeah, son of a blade so be what you got see I see you I was gonna wait the yeah, we got another spot I was gonna wait till right before the number one. Oh, okay. that's great. That's building anticipation make everybody have to sit through it. I'm fucking showman Cuz no one's turning off to me for a good number one So I am going on to number Duce as well, yeah, yeah Swamp thing That's a strong one

There's a there's a case to be made that there's no character in history that has had more prestigious series, two times. You know, when he's first introduced in the 70s by Len Wein and Bernie Wrightson, it's one of those game changers for the industry, brings it to another level in terms of the art and the characterization, but then in the 80s, you know, Alamoor gets on there and does some stuff that's like, that's still being rift on today. He just cleans fucking house.

It's one of the best comics runs ever without a doubt. Right. I adore it. I love the art on it too. John Totalbun and Stephen Bissett. It's just one of the most perfect, because he's just changing things, just enough tweaking them to give them a darker,

more sinister tone to stuff from the 70s, which was already dark to begin with. And he just brings like this, like I said, sinister vibe to everything. And that's like when you say, you know, you read Sam Man and preacher and you're like, I comics can like expand my mind in comics or like doing things that I didn't think that they could do.

That's the feeling I got when I was a teen reading a swamp thing because, you know, it was definitely more intelligent, more mature than the stuff I was reading as I was maturing. Right. There was a line in, I wonder if you'll remember this, I bet you will, but it was one of the first times I was ever creeped out by a comic and stuck with me

and I couldn't stop thinking about this. But you remember like his uncles like the bad guy, right? Or Kane. Or Kane. Or that was his, his girls uncle. Uncle. OK, but you remember when like after that, Abigail. So remember though, after that, for whatever reason,

and I'm gonna go and reread the books now after this, but like Swamp Thing goes to hell. Oh yeah. He ventures into hell. Swamp Thing annual and arcane. Yep. When heures into hell. Swamp Thing annuals are keen. Yep. Woof. When he sees arcane and he's got those bugs in his mouth.

Well, he has his head now is attached to like a 15 foot pile of maggots, bugs, creepy crawly, night crawler, just everything that's disgusting in the insect world. His body now is made up of and it's like, and he loses his sense of time, right? That's the creepy line where he says to Swamp Thing. He's like, I knew you'd come down here and get me eventually. He was how long have I been down here? And he thought he was there for like 20 years, and Swamp Thing goes, you've been down here for two weeks. And I was like, oh my.

I was like hell. Hellish. It did more to make me afraid of hell. Like Catholicism evident. I agree. I hope you have exactly that the same thing. You're just like, I'm gonna be a good boy. Because I don't want any part of this. Yeah, he's a he's he's a genius Alamore and

unfortunately You know, he's kind of turn he kind of hates the comic industry. It feels like now He kind of who's everything and he doesn't want his name on anything. He feels he was He was like robbed and and and taken advantage of by DC, with the watchman and everything. Yeah. Which I go back and forth on that because sometimes I agree with him because like he's Alan Moore, you know what I mean?

Like you guys should be giving him everything he wants and all the respect in the world he wants. But then there's a part of me that's like, yeah, but it's in the same mother fucker that wrote Tom Sawyer and Harry Potter and the same comic book. Why does he get to use anybody's characters that they want? But like he makes a fucking, he does it and DC's a bad guy's for it.

Like, you know what I mean? Like it's slippery slope. Yeah. But I love Alan Moore's work so much. And it's not like anything that's been done with Watchman since then has been worth. Like what would have been better? They had just given Alan Moore what he wanted and he stayed in the industry and continued to write those books for all these years. Like that would have been so much more valuable than before Watchmen or whatever bullshit they did with it since then.

Well, do you think DC, again, like it's in case of emergency break glass, there's a whole bunch of those moments as things have like really gone down the shitter for the comic book industry. It's like, okay, we gotta bring Watchmen back and we gotta bring them into the DC universe. This is book industry. It's like, okay, we gotta bring Watchmen back. And we gotta bring them into the DC universe. This is the kind of thing that like,

it's the panic move of all panic moves because there's nothing else to do. But there's a reason why the Beatles are still the mystique and the respect and the aura is because they never got back together. Yeah. They've performed on a roof in 1970 and never got together again, recorded any new music. And that's why they are still on top of that mountain.

Like you have to have the disciplines as fuck. And if you're DC not to go to the well and do, you know, make Watchman part of the DC universe. It didn't work either. That fuck, I don't know if you read that. It's just. I read pieces of it because I was a little bit intrigued, but it wasn't the Watchman that I knew. So it was like, none of it was anything that I recognized.

Even the story telling mechanics behind it were like, why are you guys doing this? There was no benefit to it, I thought. Yeah, that's the only reason. And those green backs, it's like, we are like floundering, we need something that's gonna get everybody excited. And I almost would be like,

like if I'm somebody in the room, who's paycheck is like, you know, give me an idea, you're fucking out of here. Uh, when we bring the watch and put them in DC Universe. Fuck California. Fuck California. I would do it too if my job was online and like fuck that guy. That wizard didn't fuck.

Who lives in his castle. He's got enough money. They'll send in the checks and it's up to him to cash it or not. But like, I don't, like, I don't, I understand like I'm saying like you got to have this one not to do it, but I also understand then it's like you're next on the line and you're in a room with like you justify your job asshole or you're out of here. I would be like, I would throw that out there for consumption. Well, it had the same conversation with Gidem earlier. But to batting around, what stories take it happen to me?

I'm gonna lose my job anyway. Did you watch the HBO series? I watched Bits of it. Yeah, I was interested. Yeah, way better than I thought it had any right to work. I thought it worked. I mean, it's obviously people loved it. I'm surprised that it didn't get a second season. Well, maybe they're hearing

you and they're like, we fucking pulled this off. You know, I don't know if we can do another one of these until HBO, until someone at HBO in five years is like, I'm watchman watchman I like this guy why aren't you more like him Johnson? It's just where we'll find I bullshit you gave us what is this get out of here watchman So we are on to our two number ones Brian to know my number two Oh, you have you didn't reveal your number to yet. No, I thought you did But it's not I don't think it's gonna be that controversial and it's definitely gonna reveal my number two, I thought you didn't reveal your number two yet. No, I thought you did. But it's not, I don't think it's going to be that controversial. And it's definitely going to reveal my number one. But my number two is Batman.

I thought it was me. Yeah, I mean, and a lot of that honestly comes from, we've had, we've run into this stumbling block before, but like Batman 66 was my world when I was a kid Sessed with it love it love it love it. I've never grown out of that. I still watch it to this day I still love it to the I mean not like Ralph Garmin loves it where he is Museum in his house like nobody's like that guy, but uh, but yeah, man that really is what made me this direct line from Batman 66 to my love of comics direct. I don't think there's one without the other. And you know,

my favorite version of Joker, which you've made fun of me before, is the Caesar Romero version of the Joker. Still to this day, my favorite version of the Joker. I fucking love it. Yeah, that's a tough one to say. I mean, I like it too, but like there's been so much more like crazier like, you know, uh, even Heath Ledger's Joker is just like that's a great rendition of the Joker. And it's I'm not taking away. Yeah, love it. Love it all. But if like you told me what can I watch more of? Right. It would, I would go for the Caesar Romero one. He was great. I have, remember I, hang it in my living room.

Get him, got me that Caesar Romero autograph for years back. That's hanging on the wall in my living room. But Batman, to me, it's like something about that character is open to more interpretations than almost any other character. Like all the different versions of Batman. They don't all work, but like when they work, it's just so basic and like, here's a guy. And this is why I get annoyed when people,

when like people today are like, I find it so tiring and boring. And just get the fuck out of my face when people are like, Batman, he's like Batman, that's a billionaire. He can be doing more, he can be doing more with that money. He's not fighting crime, beating up criminals, he can be, and I'm just like, you fucking motherfuckers. Like, it's just so he get afford the Batmobile.

Don't you understand this? Like, nobody wants to read the story of a billion, I don't wanna read, I don't wanna read a comic about a billionaire that takes this money in terms of social programs. Well, I'm sorry, I'll gait, isn't it? Yeah, I don't want to read a comic book. It's the most boring thing in the world. Like, yeah, obviously, if Bruce Wayne took all his money and delivered food and water to fucking starving villages in the middle of nowhere would be the better thing to do but you know what? I don't want to read a comic about it. Like I want to read a comic about a billionaire that fucking makes cool toys and fucking chips and and planes and then fights an

insane clown like that's what it's all about. It's what it's all about. Like so to me, it's such an up until recent years, it's such an unassailable premise. Rich guy has all this money, spends it on fighting crime is a bad. It's really like perfect comic book. Perfect stuff. I got one of those questions that you can only hear on iBi Comics, but I think maybe maybe and maybe I'm getting to ahead of myself

Is Batman too dark at this point? They would never ask that on iSalt Comics ever Is there come a point where it's just become like it's too cliché. It's like we've seen this This Batman now since the 80s is there a point where you're like, we should move a little bit back towards Batman with a little gut and smiling? I'd tell you what, I'd fucking buy it. I would buy that.

Yeah, but I think there is room for that. I do, I think there's room for that interpretation of Batman. Absolutely. No, you turn the turn the monthly Batman comic book. You just don't go as dark as, as we, as the fans demanded to be at this point. Batman is back to having a dad bud. Yeah. Okay. I, I do. I, I think they could pull it off. I think they could pull it off. I do. I think they could pull it off. I think they could pull it off. For, you know, I think for a little while. For a little while. Yeah. Yeah. I think they could pull it off. I would read it. And I wouldn't be angry about it. I do like Batman as the smartest guy in the room, who has a plan to take down everybody.

Like that JLA run where where they just got was a tower Babel. I for which one was it where yeah, they found out that Batman So so right they're going through it's like I Forget how they went through his computer or whatever, but oh no the bad guy Prometheus, right like broken to his computer And got it and Batman kept files on all his friends with plans on how to defeat them if they go insane. So he's like, all right, so this is Superman. This is, you know, I got the fucking kryptonite and if I have to kill him, this is how I'm gonna do it.

And he did that with everybody. And his point was, look man, like I'm just a dude and all you guys may go insane and he was proved right. I mean, fucking hell Jordan went bananas. He's saying I'm not gonna do it. He's like, but you guys are all gods. And if you guys lost your mind and I had to take you down, like I can't come up with that on the fly.

Like I need that. And he was on the, he got thrown out of the justice league and she was like, fat. Um, and I always thought it was such a great idea. And he also could bring up the point. Like we live in a universe where every third supervillain has the ability to control minds. Right. So that's also a factor, you know, like if you get taken to possessed or taken

over, you know, we need a way to shut you down. But let me ask you something, how would you guys feel if we discovered that Gettom had secret files? I was just going to say that I'm had a list. How did the fetus should we go and say? I would want to read that list on a podcast. Oh, I was love it. In fact, can we ask him to do that? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so I don't know, man, I love Batman. You know, his rogues gallery, it's really tough to beat.

It is. It's very strong. It's interesting that you had Robin, not Batman so far in the list. That's pretty great. I felt if I went to Batman, I was tridding into Deadpool territory. Nobody wants that. Yeah, but he took the pressure off you by taking Batman now. No one's thinking about you.

I'm looking down on him. Yeah. That, because it's such a, it's like it's the expected answer. I know his number one is too. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, which is it's gonna be talk I think We'll find out in a moment. Okay, gotta talk about green chef first Green chef is a CC OF. I don't know what that means certified meal company A CCOF, I don't know what that means, certified meal company. They make eating well, easy with plants to fit every lifestyle, whether you're keto, paleo, vegan, vegetarian, gluten free, or just looking for more balanced meals. Green chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences.

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Yeah, like all these have been at certain points at different stages of my life, these, of all, I vote like if somebody asked me, I would have given these answers. You know, as a younger kid, Spider-Man, as a teen, young teen rob, an older teen swamp thing. This one would have been just as I was becoming in my 20s. I still love this character. Not a popular choice, kind of under the radar, obscure. It wasn't a motion picture though, but that was not a good

representation of the character. Mine is Floyd Lawton, a dead shot. Oh wow. Yeah, dead shot. Dead shot, yeah. I love the costume, but what I love more was the characterization that was created for him, a character that had no backstory, basically, until he was in the suicide squad in the 80s by John Ostrander. He's on that team called the suicide squad, and he's the only member who is okay with like dying on the mission. He's almost like he's unable to kill himself, but suicide by mission, he's totally okay with that.

This was before because my version of the character was had the daughter and stuff like that involved that you wouldn't have that back then. It's so dark. I mean, he had a son, but his son was kidnapped and sexually assaulted and killed. Whoa. Oh, shit.

1988. Comics. Approved. Approved by the comics code. Who did the assault in? Oh shit 1988 Comments approved Approved by the comics code who did the assault and I was like this this Almost like a family like a somewhat like a mob thing and they paid this guy to they wanted a revenge against Floyd and they paid this This guy to get back at Floyd and kidnapped his, he'd never even had a relationship with the son. He was a divorce from the mother and they kidnapped the son from the mother and he gets word that his son's been kidnapped and by the time he gets there,

he's dead. And before he, as he's killing the, the guy who killed him, you know, he admits to him that he was a pedophile too. He never saw a red such things in any comic book. So it was just like, blew my mind that the dark areas this character went to. And again, that costume, that silver mask with the red bullseye scope was so brilliantly designed and it was a Batman villain in the 40s but he wore a top hat in a monocle that in the 70s yeah Marshall Rogers and the artist gizm this costume this red and yellow costume but with this chrome pinball like helmet that he wears and the design was so cool and then to have this.

Because everybody else on the, that goes out on a mission with, when Deadshot is pulled into the furrow mission, it's like, yeah. Why, why does this motherfucker keep getting his number called because he's gonna get us all killed because he doesn't care if he's what happens. He doesn't give a fuck, He should not be on the mission. We want to go with people who want to get back alive. And they were like, no, he goes. He's too good at what he does. And then he also revealed that point when he met Batman, there was a suicide squad just to sleep crossover in the 80s where Batman told him he was like, he goes, I know that

you've had me in your sights and you don't take the shot. He goes, so I don't have anything to fear from you because you won't kill me. And the reason why you won't kill me is because you want me to beat the shit out of you. And ultimately kill you, he goes, but I'm not going to kill you. I'm just going to keep throwing you back in Arkham or Bel Rive or whatever it was they were throwing him. And he just has to admit that, he's so fucked up that he wants to sabotage everything in his life. What, it is not even a good supervillain, go out and rob a bank, but really only because

that's what supervillains do. So depressed and so fucking like lost in his life. I'm not, I've never had this version of the character in my, I guess it was this was, and this was the 80s, Ostrangers run? Oh, I got a standard. They're all on trade. So you can get all 10 trade fairbacks.

Yeah, the first three are just so riveting. It's like playing in the DC Universe taking all these obscure characters, all these obscure super villains, these obscure supervillains, and giving them backstory, giving them reasons to want to root for them. It basically is the dirty dozen, but the first guy that was like, I'll just do that with the DC universe, and with characters nobody cares about, and I'm allowed to do whatever I want with them. And it was just really, really well done. And that's why I was so excited for that movie,

but I knew that movie wasn't gonna be the first one. Oh, that second one was awesome. So fucking great. I just rewatched it to like get into the piece maker. Did you watch piece maker? I haven't watched it. I haven't watched it. Fucking it's so much fun, dude. It is so much fun. Does he have a hand in it? The Jeff, not Jeff, the guy who directed, the guy who did the Guardians. Does he have a hand in it the Jeff not Jeff The guy who directed the guy who did the Guardians is he had a hand on the TV series He wrote every episode. He directed the first three. Oh, okay, awesome. Yeah, it's it's so much fun. It's a lot more comedic than the suicide squad movie was, but it's in the same tone. Okay cool. Yeah Squad movie was but it's in the same tone. Okay cool. Yeah, I like it all I really like the show like

This new one. Yeah, the second movie. I love starro fucking amazing. You know that line. Yeah, yeah, so good Watching it and I remember being like I Can't believe we're watching starro on the screen. It's fucking nuts And I think that what the suicide squad, like I love his art, and I don't mean this in a way to disparage anything, but it was a guy called Luke McDonald, he did the artwork for the majority of the series. He wasn't like a flashy, like a Perez or a burn, or whoever was the hot name in the industry at that point,

did just told a great story, was able to tell stories, but wasn't that flashy kind of art that just made people want to read the book, you know, and it just had a good run, but just never, you know, broke into like the mainstream of complication, but it was just a very, it's that character, yeah, I love that character. And you eventually got to draw him, right? Yeah, that's one of those, one of those things that when I got to do a gyre and cacophony with Kevin, you know, he asked me what character would you love

to draw in this? And I was like, oh, if you could throw a dead shot in, you know, that would be the be all end all for me. Like it was more exciting to draw him than Batman. That's fucking cool. Yeah. Like that to me was like that page. I finally got to draw him was way more like like, like,

amped than to do even Batman because I love just love that character. Where's that page today? You're trying to get in the TSD offices. Nice. It's a tangan underneath the Abinacustello meat frankenstein and Gidham's thongs. It was thong. So somebody wanted to see it, they'd have to come to airport plaza to check it out.

Or buy the book. It's from Cacophony issue one where, you know, he's breaking the joke right of jail and there's like almost like a splash page of Where reveal it's dead shot who's breaking them out? Nice. All right, so that's my final five and be cute. We kind of know Wow, it was gonna be so always The ones who pay attention. No Yeah, I mean, I'm such a Superman fan like I'm beyond Reasonable how much I love Superman

That there wasn't even There will never be a debate for me. You know what I mean? It'll always be the one answer Who's my favorite of all time it'll always be Superman? I fucking love that character the big blue Boy Scout, as he's called. And the more of a Boy Scout he is, the more I love him. Like I said, I did your second flip. Had a contact, and they sound a little weird. And I do love like Kingdom Come Superman, Mark Wade's version of him where he was on that's it

I have that tattoo of the old depressed Superman I love that version of the character. I do like I Think he is a very interesting elseworld's character when you do different versions like the Russian Superman or like because he Superman or like because he, there's no one like him where you're like, if you really think about the character, like he's so powerful, he could do anything, he could destroy planet Earth if he wants immediately.

And he's just suck all that power in an alien creature that just happens to look like human is creepy, man. Like there's a fucking creepiness to that, that I don't think gets played enough in Superman. Well, he's also that character, though, that is the most moral, the most, the most, like, the character that is basically so good, he's just, he's not Jesus,

but he's the next closest thing in terms of how he cares and how he loves this adopted world and everything. It's that strong moral character, you know, is it sexy in 2022? It is not. I don't know who's in it. And even if you wrote out, if you took his name off it

and presented to me and like do you want to watch this character? That is the definition of good of moral of right. I would be like I don't give a fuck about this character and I don't want to watch it. It sounds boring to me. But something about Superman has always like like I could. I mean if I really want to give you guys something to make fun of, like, if Superman was real, if we lived in a world where Superman existed, like, and I ever met him, I think I would just start crying. Well, yeah, that's my mean. He's your Tom Brady. He's my Tom Brady. Yeah. Would you cry?

No, if you're my Tom Brady. Oh, my God, I'd bought like a baby. Would you? Oh, yeah. Like, you know, when they, when people... That's security hustles you away. You know when people you see people who meet Elvis back in the day or the Beatles you know that they lose all their emotions and it just comes out. Yeah. Oh yeah. I would need a couple boxes of clinics. Well wait for the crying right. Yeah. I there's something about and when Superman's written correctly and I think Mark Wade nails him a lot

Like he doesn't have to be boring, you know what I mean like he doesn't he can be conflicted and he could be like Put out and fed up and stuff like that But at the end of the day there's something so Immovably good in the guy that there's not even a shot of anything getting around him the wrong way. I don't know, man, like I this, I wish, dude, I just fucking wish something like that existed in the real world. You know, like, I think I'll do. Yeah. And, and, and he's the strong, I mean, but now you want to go to like a comic book character that you could beat up,

what you could do anything to him. You could put him in any storyline because if it's a mystery and he's gotta use his brains and as much as I love Superman, he's not on Batman's fucking level of figuring shit out. You could find the weaknesses in the character. Kryptonite, is there a better fucking thing to use against someone in kryptonite like it's such a

great weakness man like it's a rock it's a radioactive rock from his home fucking planet that landed here and it could kill him like it's such a well-thought out thing it's not even like like we need to have a weakness what is it what is it what is it's like and these are all things that just came into the mythology over a period of time though, which is cool too. It wasn't like they had it all figured out with Action Comics number one. It was like no. All this stuff came organically over a period of time that became our mythology like, you

know, like with the Greek gods. And like, you know, these with the Greek gods like you know this is these are the current myths yeah and it just worked there's been very few Superman storylines that I've not liked like I just love reading the character in things and I don't know man his costume is fucking dope. Like it's the only one that I would put up there really with Spider-Man, like as I love the S-Shield, one of the most recognizable icons

probably in the history of the human race, I would say. I bet if you go to a fucking village in the middle of Africa and you show him a Superman symbol, one of the kids is gonna be like, oh yeah, that's Superman. Yeah, I believe the bad symbol too, they would recognize too. Bad symbol, I mean the idea of, and then you look at Clark Kent and he's also a Paul Surprise winning fucking author, you know what I mean? Like he's kind of like got his professional shit down too.

And he never like cast a like, well I'm Superman so maybe I can use my powers to to make my life a little easier as Clark Kent. Nope. That's how good he is. Yeah, I don't know, man. There's gotta be something. There's gotta be something you could get canceled over. Not.

Not. There isn't, and it's just like, I very rarely feel inspired by things. But there is something, even though he's a made up character, it's just like there is something to Superman's inherent goodness that I'm gonna say it and it's gonna make me sound real fucking weird, but like Superman actually makes me want to be a better person, if that makes sense. He really does, man. Like he

gives me this weird ice feel he's fucking mine I'm not and I'm not it's like look man It's like you could say that you read a book that inspired you and made you you know act a certain way like If I really think about Superman, I want to be more like him. You know how good Superman is? There was for the longest time, for decades, there were stories about Super Boy. You know, he never, I mean, could you imagine a Super Boy never using his X-ray vision to look at like a pretty girl in class? No, I cannot imagine that.

Could you imagine that? Like, that's how that is. That's to be all in the all right there. There's no other thing that there's nothing else to talk about. He never did. You're absolutely right. I'm telling you right now. If I had X-ray vision, I would like to say that I wouldn't do it. I mean, I just don't know how to teach you. Yeah, I would be like, what the fuck's going on? My eyes, I would hold you. So I should have vision exclusive. Yeah, they would have that weird blue around me.

I'm like, I was fucking staring at my mom. Yeah, Superman to me is just, I would actually go on to say he's probably my favorite fictional character of all time. Yeah. You got the tats, you know, you're committed. He's probably my favorite fictional character of all time. You got the tats, you know, you're committed. You know, you're not talking the talk. You're walking the walk. I walk the walk, man, I fucking love this motherfucker. I love him.

I gotta get a buddy Bradley tattooed. You gotta put the gears. Yeah. A lot of popular choices from BQ Derrick and some of his deep holes, transmit. Yeah. Spider-Jerusalem. Spider-Jerusalem, even Kyle, you know, I don't know.

I don't care what people think about it though, you know? I gotta be true to me. I mean, personally, if I'm going, if I were to go at the list of characters that like I recall and liked, you know reading as a kid I would have to lean towards you. Swom thing alone. Swom thing alone. Sure. I get it and that's a great thing about comics. Yep. Everything to everybody. It's not a competition bro. I never like Superman. I've at times again I've I've I enjoyed Superman books, really enjoyed them, and I could see where he's coming from.

But, you know, like I said, I always, like I said, these characters that the ones I brought up today, there may be five different ones if we were to do this a year from now. Right. That's what the beauty and how wonderful the world of comics is. I feel like reading Superman, like it would give me these weird feelings of wanting to be a better person, and I just had to push them down. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha