Tell Em Steve-Dave - #539: Mr. Glass

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

Thanksgiving attire, when does the honeymoon stage end, Bry refrains from entering an argument. Sponsor: https://ter.li/AmericanMusicalSupply-TESD...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That's what I should be thankful for. Yeah, that my wife isn't risking my life for no reason. You got me, you won. You got got. Congratulations. Well played, well played. Wait, wait, he's not a doctor? No, no, no, no. Strictly speaking, you know.
Starting point is 00:00:45 What the? Tell him, Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him, Steve Dave. I'm here with Walt, and I am here with BQ. Hello. All your favorites are here. That's it. Well, I sure all the favorites are here. I mean, last week. Frank five. Oh are here. That's it. Last year all the favorites weren't I mean last week.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Frank five. Oh yeah, he's close. I think I think he's up there generally warm feelings towards Frank five, right? Oh, of course. That's certainly not too much for virtual. I don't know if there's anybody that doesn't elicit positive vibes from listeners now at this point. Everybody. They love everyone. I think it has won over the majority. Yeah. Yeah. I believe some of the battle for a get him, but I think it was worth fighting. No, what else was he going to do? That's true. No, he could have embraced it. He could have embraced the hate and
Starting point is 00:01:42 really went after everybody. Well, I actually think he kind of did embrace all the things that people didn't like about him and it just eventually won people over to know it all. Yeah, you know, do you think it's Walt's love of him that it's, they're like if Walt Flanagan can see something in this fucking guy, that's worth. Yeah, he's like, I don't know. I think it's like he's a gift to the show. He's like, he's constantly giving you content and he'll put I don't know. I think it's like he's a gift to the show. He's like he's Yeah, I'm constantly giving you content and he'll put on that coach uniform and
Starting point is 00:02:15 France around in it. That was a funny commercial. Yeah, it was a good commercial Tell him Steve Dave dot com. I don't know if it's a if it's on there, but it should be Should be somewhere. Yeah, anyway, we'll talk about that for just a second haul. We still got Black Friday stuff right? Well, we got sweat shirts and t-shirts. We got t-shirts and hoodies and figures still available. I tell them, SteveDev.com. We'll get them out to you if you order quickly. We'll get them to you before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm sure. There you go. Where do you need? We're like Amazon. Yeah, free shipping, right? In America. In America. Yeah, it's not, if you're in, out of country,
Starting point is 00:02:49 if you're in one of those countries, like, doesn't have the red, white and blue flag, then yeah, you're, you're shit out of luck. But you know that feeling anyway, if you aren't an American. Yeah, you're just like, what's the point? Like, all other flags are just as white bother
Starting point is 00:03:13 So cute we haven't seen you since Thanksgiving how did it go for you? Really? Fucking sweet right this before Thanksgiving. It was before Thanksgiving we saw Yeah, thanksgiving would have been the black Friday one that we did with Frank five. I was hit black Friday Yeah, but we didn't record enough episode. Oh, okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, no, no. I mean, we, I'm talking about the Royal Wheel. The Royal Wheel. Uh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Wow, it's been that, I thought I missed one episode, but I guess it was more than that. No, just one. Oh, yeah, just one. Just one. But it had been a while, I think, since you, I didn't do it by remote, or were you here in person?
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's, I don't know, I don't know. This was, no, because I was here when I talked about Benjamin cat and stuff like that. Like first they try to sell a shit then they're trying to figure out the last time he was there. Yeah, we're gonna get to some good stuff. Yeah, I don't feel like I've been away from the table too long. I miss you. I thought I missed like, oh yeah, like a week or so. It's all. Well, I get to see as much as I used to. I'm not accustomed to missing people. Well, I went back to work this year. That's what happened. Yeah, man. We had two years off.
Starting point is 00:04:12 If only we could have another pandemic this time, twice as bad. Well, I mean, we're almost wrapping season 10 is wrapped, I think mid-January. You know, then it's just then we're just touring. Yeah. Yeah, go to Brackthulgislive.com. Okay, you take it. Then we're just touring and that's like weekend. So I'll be around. Yeah. Summers coming. Yeah. Yeah. Get through this winter. Going on land tomorrow. Winter just started. I'm going down to Orlando tomorrow just to like a little I figure Orlando in December and then she wants to go to Vegas in like January, February or something to see her parents
Starting point is 00:04:53 fucking great like a nice little break up of the winter and yeah before I know it will be warm again As I haven't even really been that bad reason My god now we're talking about the weather. Holy shit, let's talk about something good. Darren was taken tons of shit. I saw Mary Beth posted a picture of Thanksgiving. My brother, Darren, was there in attendance. And he was taking some barbs for his attire. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Sun glasses on the head. Oh. Tank top. Or guinea tea as. I mean, he's in Jersey. He's in Jersey. That seems like that's fine. I gotta tell you, I didn't even notice it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. It did not even occur to me. That it's at a semi-formal family engagement and he dresses like he's going to the beach. Do you think that's because of Darren's general aura? Seems like people are like, Hey, man, he's here. Like he's happy. He's wearing what he wants. I don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm a rile. Don't stir the pot, man. I don't think it's not like he's a fucking chilled out surfer, dude. Where he's like, Hey, man, just keep on keeping on. I love you, brother. I've always had a good friendship with your brother, but chill is not the It's not like he's a fucking chilled out surfer dude. He's like, hey man. Just keep on keeping on I Love you brother. I've always had a good friendship with your brother, but chill is not the word I would use to describe him He has a microscopic fuse
Starting point is 00:06:19 It makes me look like a patient of a saint Even even Edgar's like you know, he's like, you know, this one's crazy. Not as crazy as Darren, but still pretty crazy. Like, I gotta be honest though, I didn't see the picture, but if someone showed up wearing, it's basically a white undershirt. No, it was like something new.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It wasn't like a wife-beater. It was. Okay, because would it wasn't like a it wasn't a wife beater. It was okay because the way you're painting feature it wasn't a wife beater. There's a tank top. No. Is it a tank top? Basically. Yeah, but a wife beater is like the under white beater. Yeah, like this. What I have on right now is that you don't look it's fucking viral. That's a wife beater. That's a wife beater. Okay, and what was he wearing? He was wearing it was just like a I think a dark colored, but not white.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Basically it's the same thing. Not white. Oh, okay. He's the same thing at all. No, I see it is different as well. Yeah. But I was complaining because I remember over the summer, I went to the Olive Garden, you know, fine eatery.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Sure. And when did your family your family? Yeah. And there was a guy there who had a tank top on, and I'm like, I don't want to look at those motherfucker's hairy armpits while I'm eating, man. OK. Like get some sleeves on, bro. This is a fucking Olive Garden, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:36 This is the Olive Garden. Yeah. You're fucking, you're living now. Yeah. You're not used to it. I can tell. But he was an employee or a patron. No, he was a patron.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You really can't really walk around and expect what's certain. People to be civil. I mean, yeah, you really can't go to a golf garden and expect a clothing requirement. Of course you can. I don't know. Now that's basically for food. Yeah, it's it's it's fast food. It's chilies.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It's like you go to McDonald's. I think what would you expect? Like, no, it's not. No, it's time to if they were trying to make McDonald's prices, then okay, although I didn't mention earlier, I paid a $0.40 extra for Max. And it was not happy about it. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't feel like that. It's an establishment that screams, you know, like a dress code. Well, you have there is a dress code.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But he's still, he must have passed it because it's a shirt. It's a shirt. It qualifies as a shirt. But can I walk in there with like my dick magnet shirt? Like, you know, I don't write dick magnet on, but it's like a half shirt with my fucking giant cut. And what was the problem? Because he had hairy arms? Hairy armpits. I don't want to look at it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. I think you just turn your chair the other way or switch your face. Hold on. Now I got a fucking adjust my behavior because this guy doesn't have to act like a fucking human being. I mean, if they, if I turn my back to Darren, just I ate the whole time with my back face and I'm if the major D satum at all of garden I really don't know what what recourse you have though other than to just kind of deal with it. Oh, I know my Recourses to deal with it and fucking complain later on what else do I got there's nothing else I can do about it
Starting point is 00:09:20 Shove and pass in your mouth clearing it is on yeah, yeah more bread sticks can do it. Just shove and pass in your mouth, clearing it is on. Yeah. Yeah. More bread sticks. Where does their bottomless around these parts? Only one thing that'll fucking coil this fucking fire. I got that's with free bread sticks and salad. I heard they're not even free anymore, right? Get out. Really? Are you just there? Or yeah? No, I was over the summer. I don't think they're going to be. Oh, maybe it's the chips that that's the chips that the chips of Chili's remember used to walk in east to put the chips. Oh, yeah Yeah, I gotta sign up for rewards to 99 and you gotta pay for that shit It's a world coming to won't you guys got their hand our pocket. It's the supply chain. Oh
Starting point is 00:09:55 It's cuz of Putin right and knew it Yeah, the war yeah, COVID Downs, you know all those things combined for a throw out some buzzwords and take care of everything. You know, combined for a fucking horrible stew that has now caused, you know, prices to rise, inflation, hyperinflation. I've never been so certain that Walt was sedated prior to sitting down at his table. What is going on? What?
Starting point is 00:10:24 You all right? You're talking about the economy and shit. Yeah, well, I don't know anything about that. Walt was sedated prior to sitting down at his table. What is going on? What? You all right? You're talking about the economy and shit. Yeah, well, I don't know anything about that. Do you want to talk about the weather more? Yeah, the weather is something I can deal with. What else? I think I did tell you this Walt that I was kind of proud
Starting point is 00:10:39 of myself that I didn't argue with Pam. I don't think I told you though, Q. It was at her house. I can't remember what it was for though. Maybe my sister's birthday or something, but she was telling me about how she's watching all these Halloween movies. Halloween was upcoming at the time. Okay. I think you should, yeah, you told me this. Yeah, I think I told you this and it's just like You caught her and making a mistake and she wouldn't admit to it She wouldn't I didn't even call her on her mistake
Starting point is 00:11:13 Daren did Daren was in there Not the fog right at the fog. Yeah, so my mother says that she watched the fog She's like and I watched it in black and white I'm like all right. I see this already what's going on She saw the mist in black and white. That's what, all right. I see this already, what's going on? She saw the mist in black and white. That's what I said, he said, are you sure? It wasn't the mist, she goes, no, it was the fog.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like, very certain of herself. And then my second question was, I go, did you watch it on a black and white TV? And of course, she did not, she watched it in her home. And I let it go. I was like, oh, cool. And I wasn't like, okay, so you watched a fucking movie in a format that it's never been presented in and wasn't fucking shot in, but somehow you fucking did.
Starting point is 00:11:50 You're amazing. Can I fucking see this magical movie? Did you tell her? I'm angry about that kind of I didn't tell you. Did you, but did you inform her that you let it go? I was really letting it go. I was gonna say that would that you let it go? I would really didn't let it go. But Darren was on the case. Darren was right there being like, yeah, she saw him black and white. Stirring the bottle. Stirring it up. I think he wanted to get me going and I'm just like, and I could tell by her face, like she's like right there
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like I mean she might have a more hair trigger temper than Darren does Yeah, everybody's got a fucking problem in my family man. Yeah, but you know, I know I know it's gonna walk around an egg shell because Pam's pissed off, but Darren, you know There and yeah, who knows if a bottle of fucking Jack dang Across the room or something who knows if a bottle of fucking Jack dang is going to find across the room or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 It's going to like try to get out of her chair. She won't succeed. And then if she does, she'll kind of stumble towards it. She's really, she's gotten to the point where she looks like, I mean, not facially, but looks like a troll. Like the way she walks. Like, she searches about hunched over. And she like, you know, does like this. Like, she's drawn to the kitchen a couple times. I talked about it last
Starting point is 00:13:09 week. Cause she wouldn't fucking stop coming in the kitchen when Marybeth is trying to cook. And she would get so dude, I'm gonna get this close to you as she did the Marybeth. Okay. So I'm at the oven. I'm starting. I'm making some stuff and I would not write. That's weird. It's her daughter-in-law. How could you get close on Thanksgiving? No matter, is that the fucking guy so cold and sterile, the Johnson's. I could not believe he would do it back away from her.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Scutter, scutter. She would scutter out and then like at the scutter out and then I would like go do something, I come back in, she'd be right back in there Yeah, she went and listen Why is she why is is what is she walking that way? I just think old Oh just don't take care of herself and There's like I tried to tell her you know like get your get your back looked at but you didn't get it looked at
Starting point is 00:14:01 She doesn't want to go through another she had like rods put in a while back but she didn't get it looked at because she just want to go through another she had like rods put in a while back Years ago, so I guess they would have to take them out and put new ones in her some shit like that She doesn't want to do it, but to me it's like oh, I don't know like you see those those old people like everyone's Why I'll see them they're just walking around and they're like at a fucking 90 degree angle. They're so Yeah, yeah, I got a one that's fixable. I don't know if that's fixable. She's not that bad I don't think if you get to that point. I don't know if there's Anything that can repair that but if you had been proactive maybe when when you were at and maybe a 45 degree angle Yeah, maybe then you could have done something I had a conversation with a woman in Manhattan an old woman in Manhattan
Starting point is 00:14:43 Recently and I had to sit on the sidewalk to talk to her because she was Completely bent over has like well, that's crazy Yeah, and like I felt bad because I was talking to her and she was just staring at the sidewalk and I was like to she Look at me when I'm talking yeah, like I stop here in nanny No, but I'm like I just poor woman like every conversation. She has she doesn't So it's like fuck it. I'll sit down. I don't know if it would insult or anything, but I sat down, she seemed to appreciate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, she got to look at me. Did you recognize her? No, so I got up and left. I left now. No, no, no, no instant recognition. So you were like, ah, waste of time. I'm like, is anybody, can I take a picture of me talking to this old lady
Starting point is 00:15:24 like this, somebody post that on, I could have been, spent my time being nice to someone who's putting a nickel in my pocket. Yeah. That's an interesting story. Like you've escaped the Nazis and stuff like that. She was like, old, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And like, what, how did you, did you just, how did you run into her? She was, I was on a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, there's a garden over there and she was watering the flowers but carrying like she's been doing and she's carrying these buckets to and fro and
Starting point is 00:15:52 I was like fuck do you need help and she's like no no I got it I take care of the flowers but I kind of like just I just like was like okay and then asked her about the flowers and she just started talking about it so I just sat down and she I was like what's your deal because asked her about the flowers and she just started talking about it. So I just sat down and she I was like, what's your deal? Because she has a thick German accent and she told me she she's a war criminal. No, she was like, yeah, she was like, I lived in Nazi Germany and then I had to get out. Did you have to get out because she was Jewish or should I have to get out because of? I got to be honest, she was a little defensive about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So I think it might have been some Nazi roots in this. Right, so I don't know. I don't know. But you fucking hated Putin. Like, hate him. It is like he's another one. She's like, I fucking hate him. There's a lot of Nazis in the news lately.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I know, I remember Kanye, did you hear about him when he said on a podcast? Yeah, but he's just insane, right? Did you listen to that? Like, how can you hold this man accountable? He's an insane person. I think that that's an easy out though than for anybody just to be like,
Starting point is 00:16:48 well, say whatever you want and you pay no price then because you're... That's what I've been trying to go with it. Like he said that Hitler wasn't a bad dude or something. Yeah, he's crazy. He's like, what a stance. Like sound bite after sound bite after sound bite. He's good at news. I don't know why he's doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Except he seems nuts. Yeah, I think he just wants to fucking burn everything. Yeah, he wants to burn it all man. We're burning it all. That he's uncancellable. Oh, he's wrong. He's cancelled though. I mean, I'll match a Kanye fans for the most part are still Kanye fans.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I don't think he could set up any kind of Way now to sell Himself to anybody anymore. Well, I'll you're talking like to sponsors. Yeah, I like selling concerts like that There's no coming back now. I don't think god damn. He's only got a billion to what's he gonna know? Yeah, it's cash out man. I mean he whether or not he likes it He cashed out by saying all that shit I guess Yeah, that's pretty that's a pretty odd. I mean is there anybody more reviled? suicide by Nazi yeah, right? Yeah, pretty much you just say that and you're like it's over
Starting point is 00:18:01 I would just my first thing would be like He's pro Hitler if it wasn't like look if it's a guy in a fucking bar I'm like oh we're dealing with a real fucking not like this guy's a piece of shit, but if it's like someone of Kanye status I'm like he's got to be crazy because Who the fuck would say that? Now are they less likely to like Madonna's been acting pretty crazy lately. She's off her fucking rocker now That's like you're really why what she do I have her anything about her in a long time
Starting point is 00:18:30 Stop posting pictures of herself that have been fucking filtered and Photoshopped to oblivion So you're just like you're a 65 year old woman like age gracefully man She's got all this weird makeup on she's got bondage outfit on all this other shit She was on Jimmy Fallon not too long ago within the past year or two like She's got all this weird makeup on. She's got bondage outfit on, all this other shit. She was on Jimmy Fallon not too long ago within the past year or two, like, diving on the desk, trying to act all sexy and shit. So she's just trying to act like she did in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:18:54 She's, yes. Okay, and you call that crazy though. You're comparing that to fucking. No, no, no, I'm asking you. I'm saying she's been acting wackily at least. What if she goes the Kanye route? Oh, well, I mean, she'll find the same, find the same cancelization, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Britney Spears was obviously nuts when she was like hit shaving her head and hitting cards with umbrellas and shit.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah. But people love to watch that fucking disintegration. That's the car wreck and human being loves to watch somebody else's downfall. But it was only it only affected her. Whereas this affects other people like Kanye saying this kind of shit. Like if Kanye was shaving his head and hitting cards with umbrellas, I don't think people would bat an eye. But the Nazi shit for whatever reason really is.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Well, who are you seeing that's affecting? You want the Kardashians? They won't get their fucking, their alimony. Who are they saying that's their... They won't get their... They won't affect Jewish people. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I thought you meant like the poor Kardashians won't get the, you know, the child supported like the 20 grand or $200,000 yes to give her every month. Oh, I saw that man. So I'm like, yeah, I'm so, wait, it's he gets that, do you think that's the cause of it? He's just like, I'm not be able to pay that. So I'm just going out the next day and say this. What do you say, pay it?
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's only like, I don't want to pay this. It's a year, right? It's nothing to him. That's nothing to him. But maybe he doesn't want to pay it. Maybe he's just like, that's insanity. But he like had his own school for a little while. Like some academy and they close that down all of a sudden. Like, can you imagine it's like that's insanity, but he like had his own school for a little while like some academy
Starting point is 00:20:25 And they close that down all of a sudden like you imagine it's like oh man, it must be prestigious It's Kanye school and then he starts spouting all this fucking Nazi shit Breaking down wearing masks in public all the time. Oh, then I want to do the math on this. Okay 200,000 a month. Yeah What's up? It's a lot. One point two. 2.4.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Right. That's nothing to him. Now it might be though. No. I think that he's a billionaire. I think he has the study is upwards of a billion dollars. So that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 He, you know, how long you gotta do it 18 years? Or how many years? I think the kids are like four and five now. So okay, so times 12 years, let's say. It is weird too though. Like I mean, I guess I understand it on like, you know, what's good for this one is good for that one, but it's like, the mother of these children is what is good for that one, but it's like, the mother of these children does not need 200. I thought, yeah, that's right for a fucking child support, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:31 You fucking kidding me? This woman who is a fucking billionaire is now like, you will be money for these kids. And not only just money, money that like families of four could live on for like three years. Oh yeah. Wow. I never thought of that. live on for like three years. Oh yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I never thought of that. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. But it's almost like though, it's such a small amount of money to these people that you're surprised they're even like dealing with this at all. I was telling when this story broke, I was here talking to get him about, you know, the con right thing. It's like I said, I don't think I've ever heard a Kanye song to my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I said, I don't know. That's our gold digger, you must have. Well, he played it. He played me, immediately YouTube, sorry, live performance. And I'm watching it. And the first thing, and the only thing I can think of is he, his performance reminded me like something
Starting point is 00:22:23 in Yoko Ono, what it did in the 60s, like some annoying avant-garde, artistic, like an artist. And you're not, you're hack. That's what it sounded like to me, whatever he was doing on his entire life, it was so bad. I don't know what the song was though. Get him a no. But it was like real like almost like like you said, like trying to be artist, quote unquote, I'm an artist. People get into their own fucking heads, man. I never had it as tough though. And when you got when you're Kanye and everyone's like, oh by the way, you're fucking awesome. No, and like you, you, I mean, what look at him talking to? I never had a Kanye album. My buddy Nick Jivenetti said he's one of the best.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He's like, he's one of his albums. His great albums are like some of the greatest albums. So I guess the take, like he's just that talented and that that good like that's why he's who he is. So you know, I don't I was I've never I don't know how many cognacones I've listed in my entire life. So I never got it. But apparently he's one of the best that ever that ever rhymed. Yeah, a couple years ago, like right when the pandemic started, I think he came up with an album and I was they were doing on Jim and Sam. They playing cuts of it and I was like who likes this shit I heard the swifties took over the Kanye website. Oh really? Yeah with like supportive Holocaust survivors on this positive
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yeah, why don't they hack the site? I don't think hacked and i think they just like they'll just like swamp it until it like overloads now the fuck is anti-semites isn't making a comeback i don't like is it like i hear about it all the fucking time now so i guess about it but like again in everyday life i don't run across people no but i don't really want to cross anybody to begin with.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I mean, you would do. I mean, I would have to guess you only run across, run across sage and Maryfax. Well, my cats aren't any sands. Yeah, you're right. I'm running across. In fact, there was just a big conversation about that today. It's me not leaving the house ever, just constantly carrying boxes from the garage. It's me not leaving the house ever. Just constantly carrying boxes from the garage. It's like this never ending, excuse me. I get boxes.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Oh, that's horrible. Yeah, that's terrible. Yeah, so I guess they're saying what I'm hearing is and my buddy Eric, he's Jewish and he's like, yeah, he's like, he's a worrying trend right now. And you're like, Jesus, man, how does this happen? But are they getting got? Are they like, is it like the Asians
Starting point is 00:25:05 who are getting punched out every fucking two seconds for no reason? I don't know. Or is it? I don't know. Because I've been doing it. Sunday Jeff said there have been customers who are rooted to him where he works out.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Get out of here. They know he's Jewish. Well, ground with a chain with them. He just works in the service industry. And people here like, to fix your cards, gonna be thousands of dollars, they take it out on him. Really? We take it out on Sunday, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, poor Sunday, yeah. I don't believe this for a second. It's so much fun. It's too late. It's too late. Cause he's the guy that's gotta give him the bill. Wait, oh wait, so Sunday is, he's anti-Semitic or he's facing, he's facing a lot of abuse at work. He said lately. Oh, so he's overcharging people to get back at them.
Starting point is 00:25:53 No, no, no, no, he just said lately he's been more so than ever. Though he's found that people are rooted to him at work. Huh? When he tells them the prices of things, he's the one that has to face it. Face it. But he didn't say it's because he was Jewish, right? He didn't say it's Jewish. I didn't. All right. Now it's all made in sense. For a second, I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Oh, poor Sunday, man. Do those people know who they're talking to? Imagine being mean to Sunday Jeff. No, no, who they're talking to, man. No, fuck good. Yeah. American treasure. I can't even imagine being mean to anybody
Starting point is 00:26:28 Oh, I can yeah Oh, what do you mean? You know mean to people who treat you like you're an asshole like out in public, you know Oh, I mean, I guess so but I mean I don't I don't think that's being mean so much is like Defend you know sick enough for yourself. Oh, you're saying like, oh, going out of your way to be mean. Yeah, like, like, if I, like, I've got too much energy, there's too much energy, man, like, yeah, it's like, fuck it, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Like a really dislike somebody and you're getting revenge, which again, doesn't really fall under the definition of being mean. No, that's, you know, probably justified, I guess, in a certain way. Yeah. It's be nice, man. Yeah, that's what we're all about here. That'd be a nice and talking about the weather. Who said that? I just heard that. Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:10 Will Smith said that. And he was on the fuck up. Will's dude, I heard they were playing Clips on it and how it's turned in of his apology. Have you guys seen this? Yeah. He went on, I guess, the daily show and stuff like that. And it sounded like the the it sounded like a mess He was like, you know People going through stuff, you know and I'm going through stuff You know and we just got to be nice to each other and it's like wait what? I'm really on who smacks them. Yeah, like why do I gotta be nice to anybody dude?
Starting point is 00:27:37 I wanted to rear end a car the other day. They had a bumper sticker on it. It said do better I was like fuck you you don't know how well I'm fucking doing You don't know what good I'm doing who the fuck are you to tell anybody to oh? Righteous like it's so sanctimonious man I'm not standing my car just to fucking give this to somebody in this asshole a little bit of what better Do better yeah with the only bumper sticker on the car too. Yeah, it's like I could take it if it was like do better Coag to something like all right, this person is just one of those peacenick types.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah. Simply do better. It's just a finger wagger. Yeah, correcting me. That's one way to look at it. Why don't we pick it up from a different handle? This is the holiday season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 What if we didn't look at it as a, like a, a, a, a, a tide? What if we looked at it as like a, like a friendly reminder from a friendly face, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a about in your personal life. What are they talking about? They're talking about like all the fucking social woke shit. That's what they're talking about. That's exactly what they're talking about. Do you think you're not doing well enough in terms of fucking ABCD? Everybody's marginalized. Bapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap talking out let's work it out how can you do better there's nobody to fucking victimize in my house like you know like Walt said I'm there constantly so I don't run across any transgender I could Victor eyes or gay people I could fucking harass you around a lot of like gays and transgenders you've never harass them or anything like that so maybe he's not talking to you like why do you think he's talking to you about that I don't know because I feel I don't know, because I feel like he's lecturing me.
Starting point is 00:29:26 My whole life was fucking lectured and nagged as a kid. Now I can see it everywhere. Just slam it to a car. Yeah, but this one, you're not seeking it out. But if you put, I think sometimes, if you seek it out on the internet, they're not you, but other people, if you seek out those articles and stuff, yeah, you're not allowing yourself, you're allowing yourself to be nagged again, though.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But the bumper sticker is hard because, you know, maybe you should turn into a parking line and let that car get further away. But here's the, yeah, and then he'll be wait a few minutes. But here's the thing, what if I'm like, you know what, let me just pull off so I'm not behind this person. I give I'm like, you know what, let me just pull off so I'm not behind this person. I give them 60 seconds, right? Yeah. I pull back onto the highway and I get fucking teabond now.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That asshole had just fucking minded his own business. You might have could have come in. What about my wife? I would argue, like I'll say, like maybe in the past three years, you've taken on a certain old man raging at the clouds attitude about things, right? Possibly maybe scurrying into that area a little bit. Put aside. and old man raging at the clouds attitude about it. That's right, possibly maybe he's
Starting point is 00:30:25 scurrying into that area a little bit. But aside. So am I tolling? But like, there's no, but you don't do anything to hurt anybody. No, I just rag. So it's like he's talking to you. No, he's saying do better.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Like, whatever I'm doing right now, which is just not being an asshole to people. Yeah, that's not good enough. Okay. But I think Q is saying, though, everybody can do better. Yeah, that's not good enough. Okay. But I think Q is saying though, everybody can do better. It doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter who it is.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It could be the person at the top of their game and their profession. Go on, say it. And then you better. Except for Brady. Oh my god, he can do way better than he's doing this year. I mean, I sure as hell, hope he does a better than he's been doing
Starting point is 00:31:03 because if not, then it's going to be a long route. It's going to be a tough last year for him if he does retire at the end of the year. So I'm hoping he does better, but who amongst us really can say, like, you know what? That sticker doesn't apply to me. I've done so much. I don't need to do better at ABC or day. Uh, probably the fucking sanctimonies douchebag driving the car phase that way, which is why they fucking put the bumper sticker
Starting point is 00:31:31 in the first three mind to remind everyone else. I want to be clear. I hate the bumper sticker. And I think the guy who put on his car is a fucking douchebag. Like, that's how, but I, I think that the things I would I'm trying to break is your connection to the to the bumper city i take a personally i don't know what i don't want to get to the bottom of the while you take it personally oh do you know he knows he's falling short
Starting point is 00:31:55 he knows he's falling short but not in the way that this guy is suggesting but in in other avenues that's why he's so like super sensitive to it deep down subconsciously he knows he's falling short in some area that's bugging him. Oh you're right you're 100% Oh yeah I know I'm not in the way that I know this person is talking about. They're not like you should go into the fucking office to tell him to leave Dave more. That's not what they're fucking saying. I don't know if anybody's saying that. Well, certainly not.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I don't, yeah, like that person, that person who put that do better sign on there. Yeah, they're looking for you to perform better in a way you may never even contemplate it. But that's the beauty, that's the magic of the do better sticker. You don't know how it's gonna to affect the person, you know, driving behind you. I mean what? You need to get a tattoo.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I want to tell other people like, I you should do better. I want to start telling people to do better. Yeah, I love it. I want to see how it flies. Do better. Yeah, I mean Yeah, that's it. Somebody make a alright, we're making that bumper sticker right. Do better. That's really funny, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Do bitter. Damn. But if you put that bumper sticker on your car, chances are you're going to be pissing off people. Just like you. I would be like, oh fuck off. So, I rolled out my window, I'd be like, I'm not gonna fuck off until you do better. Yeah, roll it right back up. So maybe that, like maybe the guy's like a fucking troll of the highest order. Maybe he's like you. He was lying to me.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He was. He's got sea lion. He was, he saw that bumpest sticker on some fucking purple hair college students, fucking like a car And I was like oh fuck you put it on his car. I was like I'm gonna piss everybody off and now it's working You know who's gonna get mad like old white guy. Yeah, he's doing it. He's winning. He got me. He won you got got congratulations Well played well played Usually we don't like aside from like me and Usually we don't, like aside from like meandies,
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Starting point is 00:34:31 Barrow? Yeah, Barrow. Barrow. We're a person in that. We are, yeah. We're a public enemy number one. If the other one had we did. Well, I mean, I'm giving them a free plug right now
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Starting point is 00:36:32 Be like Alex and Victor. Cool, man. Don't you? I wonder if I can get a harmonica there. A mouth harp. Should wait a second. That's called something else. That's what we were getting off that.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Do you not apply to harmonica? No, no. You want to learn? No, no. I mean, I think my odds of ever learning a musical instrument are pretty low these days. You waited too long to pick it up. And I had no ear for it or talent for it. I have no natural
Starting point is 00:37:14 Talent but I figure I don't what what about it? What about you thinks you aren't capable of writing a hit song Okay, that's an interesting question. I think that I don't understand I think that I don't understand, let's go at this. I think that I don't understand even song structure or, like I was rewrote a song on the TV show with a buddy of mine. And he, you know, I just wrote up some bullshit, it's common, it's bullshit, it's I just wrote it up. And he was changing the words because he goes, no, this ending of this needs to connect to the ending of this.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And this word sounds better to the ear. And like he's a songwriter and fucking... Right, but he took your work and just slightly altered it, showing you that you have the skills. Yeah, all right. But I think his talent level was so high that he was able to take something that I shit out and made it passable. That's I think happened. All right, so well, take a guess. There's a whole bunch of different ones.
Starting point is 00:38:09 There's different price ranges of harmonicas. Oh, harmon, oh, yeah. I'm sure harmonica is a very like intricate instrument, you know, it's made out of metal, right? So it's got to be forged. It's a base 58 base 58 harp orchestral, as top of the line model is developed in close cooperation with leading international players
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Starting point is 00:38:44 You can't, you can go, you could swing it, and just do it for only fourteen hundred. Wow. Wow. Thank you. You could just swing it. You could swing it. Just do it. Just do it. Plants of song sports. Why don't you start with... Don't go for the high end harmonica immediately.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And then... Get yourself a kazoo. A kazoo? Yeah, I learned that. It was master. It was master. Master that. It was master that.
Starting point is 00:39:02 It was master that. It was master that. It was master that. It was master that. It was master that. It was master that. It was master that. It's also, what's blowing into a plastic? How much is a high end casue? Like $1.29. Yeah, I know, he's got to be professional casues, right? He's not even plain, he's just written that noise. He's not even plain, he's just written that noise. He's everything, she says, something funny.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's moving, moving, moving. He brings it on to the show. Look, this is my new thing. thinks she says something funny. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! Bring it on to the show. This is my new thing. I'm just going to give this to my friend, Noah. All right, hi, quality kazoo on Amazon. All right, about $14. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm just starting. No, but if I'm going to jump in to the harmonica, I would want to start with the best of the best. I want to learn on the best I see, but when I hear harmonica, I instantly think of music that Nobody wants to do. Yeah, that nobody really cares about You know, I don't remember hearing I can't remember any songs from my youth blues brothers blues traveler Okay, yeah, yeah, go on, name another one, please. You could get a pretty decent harmonica cube between two to four hundred dollars to spending
Starting point is 00:40:12 on how much you're depending on how much you're if I was going to do it, I need the twenty one hundred dollar one. I don't even want to start out. You don't even want to want the American musical discontent. I just want him to send it to me for free. I don't want the American musical discount. I don't, I just want him to send it to me for free. I don't want to do that. I'm not paying for it. Yeah, I, no, I like blue, I listen to blues music, a lot of blues music. I'm just gonna say, you're into the blues, I guess the harmonica
Starting point is 00:40:34 is the instrument that, you know, is integral to the blues. It's never not welcoming the blues song. Right, but like in, in you know top 40 music though I can't remember harmonica being that blues trouble It's on that he's a rip out a harmonica and blast one on stage. Oh John does too. Yeah, he has that harmonica holder that he puts on his
Starting point is 00:40:59 The Billy Joel. Yeah, Billy Joel. So you know plays harmonica too. He's a monica. Yeah So yeah piano man has a big good in the beginning, right? So I can never, but there's no saying, I don't think even if I had the best of the best harmonic, I don't think I would be able to learn to play it in a satisfying way. We could sit around your fire pit, you could play. Yeah. Like we're you could hire somebody to broke back mountain action. Yeah. That's why it's cozy. But you could hire somebody to take what you on the road
Starting point is 00:41:27 to teach you. Yeah. And if you were to like really be committed to it and put like eight to 10 hours a day into it. It's like I officially have too much money. I just have like a thousand dollar harmonic. Now I got a harmonic a guy. Is that what we all have to have?
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's my harmonica guy. Yeah, like skip, like, because my thing was like, I just watch YouTube videos and like, a lot of breathing exercises you probably have to take. Oh, really? I'm a thawing, right? Might have to cut down on like, you know, on maybe some alcohol consumption,
Starting point is 00:41:59 because I don't know if that's. This is what's round about way of getting you to stop drinking by taking up the harmonica. I kept my promise. I tried. Last a wine for like the toast. And then and then I was like, you know what? I want to go back to Walt and tell them.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I know nice. You know what that's. There you go, man. Yeah. What about a black Friday? No, no, okay. All right. So now we're up to 48.
Starting point is 00:42:23 How about I I took Saturday, but hold on, I went out to dinner last night with Cain hot isn't down and that we I had two glasses of wine there. But I think my days of like drinking drinking are over nice. Yeah. Is it feel better? Right? Because the last couple of times you've wandered into the to the studio.
Starting point is 00:42:41 You couldn't find your way in and you wondered it and you and you looked you looked like you were you know you were feeling physically like you know a little run down from the for the drink and I was really completely heartbroken yeah and and now I just actually said the states will drive in there I was like I was like I'm, starting to feel like I'm moving into the next stage of accepting. So I think that, I think the alcohol became a little bit of a crutch for a while there. And I didn't like the way it felt, and I didn't like the way it made me act.
Starting point is 00:43:14 So I think that's a lot. What were you doing? How are you acting? Beat up some cats. I screamed at the sun they jipped. What do you gave you that? I just beat so much. Why is this transmission so much?
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Starting point is 00:44:10 All right, well that's good. That is like grand, that is the comfort. That is, you know what I'm going back to Key West eventually. I can't explain that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, caveats, you. Come on, you remain strong. You must be a good bus. Not drunk. Not drunk. Okay. All right, so now for the rest of your life, you come on you remain true you must be a good bus not drunk not drunk okay all
Starting point is 00:44:26 right so now for the rest of your life you'll never be seen in public drunk drunk I believe so yeah I want to see I want to see I want to see on the news tomorrow like it practical cookers, Jews and time to wear. All right, and that will work on in private. Well, I don't drink that much really anymore. So yeah, well, you know, you got a friend's house, you have a couple of bruise, but dry, I think being drunk is just not for me anymore. A lot, a nice buzz.
Starting point is 00:45:00 As you get older, I feel that's the case. It's just like your body just can't handle it. Yeah. That's why I feel anyway Like I hardly ever ever drink ever But what I do it's like Like one or like two or three drinks and I can start to feel it and it's like you're right It's like you feel it like it weighs heavy on you. Yeah Yeah, it's the end of an arrow man
Starting point is 00:45:21 That's it's good. I think it's a good thing. Yeah. I mean, don't look at it as an end of an era. Look at it as the beginning of a new era. Fuckin' love this, man. I'm doing better. You're doing better. Doing better. I'm just sick or no. You see, like, over there, doing better.
Starting point is 00:45:35 On this side of the table, doing better. Right. Right. Man. That's like, fuck it. We should be in highlights for children. Speaking of American musical, I saw the American musical last week. Excuse me, I'm a voice cracking. The Rockettes. You went? Yeah, what? How was it? It's awesome, right? It's a fun
Starting point is 00:46:00 show. If you fall asleep multiple times, can you still say it was awesome? Wouldn't be my definition of it. But I fell asleep a couple times. And I was just like, wow, I fell asleep three times. But it was still what I saw was okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a light kickin' around, right? Yeah, at the end of the day, it's just, you know, it's just what you expect. Mm-hmm. I feel like you didn't go for you. No, I didn't go for me. What'd you go for?
Starting point is 00:46:32 I took my mom, yeah, my wife. Had you, your mom liked it? Yeah, my mom liked it. She didn't fall asleep, right? No, stayed awake the whole time. You know, my son. You got it. You got it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, but they did some drone effects. Oh, get out of here really. Here are these ice fairies. We're flying around overhead. Oh, that's pretty cool. And they were all on drones. But before the show began, they said, if ice fairy lands in your lap, you have to treat it very delicately and give it to one of the workers. Yeah. So I was expecting these ice fairies to be landing, you know dive bombing or be close enough where I could grab one. Yeah. But it just never happened though. You're right over that. First time here. Oh my God. So you thought you were going to land a nice fair?
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah, but you know what? The warnings were unnecessary because there was no ice fairies that hit the crowd at all. Yeah, just the ones in the course line. Yeah. He's from Metallicaica do the drone. And it did what? A drone thing at a show I was at once.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And it was right above their head. It wasn't like high up in the air and one or two went down. So maybe they're just like you just having... They were filming with drones? Is that what they were doing? No, no, the drones in a light show. Like they formed doors above them and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:48:01 and like, and it was fucking really cool man. It was in Vegas. It was indoors. So it was like fucking pretty sweet I'm going on tour again. I'm excited about that. I'm wearing my metallic show. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'll go see my tour man. They're doing two They're doing two shows in every town two nights in every town and each night They're not repeating the same song. Oh, it's pretty cool. Yeah, so I'm like, fuck, oh, I go, man. Two shows.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Can you do two shows? Can you do two shows? Yeah. Without drinking. Yeah, I think I would be down for that. Because how many more times have I seen Metallica maybe five, six times in my life? How many more times am I going to see them before they pull, you know, for their retired? So I would go for the two-nighter. Okay. Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:47 Sure, there's some sort of yeah We could wrangle up Don't I'm sure they'll do oh I don't know if they doing stadiums Then the giant stadium or will they do? Or will they do the garden or will they do I if I'm italic I'm doing the giant stadium, right? If this is if this is the last tour. Oh, I they I said that Put either way in metallic and they're not
Starting point is 00:49:14 They're gonna just go on the road with Pantera. I think that's a double bill. Yeah, who's playing guitar for a pantera? Oh, I have no idea. Oh, I bet you'd suck wild. Maybe I'm wrong now. I could be wrong, but I thought it was panthera I heard, but I could be wrong. I'd like to see panthera too. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Some metal shit right there. Um, Q, you want to know this song gonna have to ask Walt, when do you know the honeymoon is over? When you started asking questions, that simple answer you have that question means it's over. I think you know when it's over and you have to just like a Lot of things you have to be straight enough with yourself to recognize it
Starting point is 00:50:14 Inaccepted I feel like this is gonna be ongoing. Yeah all right the last night Mary Beth was making my dinner for me and It was easy. It was like a sandwich and some crispy crowns, which are like tater tots. And she's making them and I'm upstairs, and I hear like, I hear a dish break. And she's like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And then she calls me downstairs. She's like, babe, can you come downstairs? And then it goes on to explain that, you know, the bowl, this little glass bowl broke right next to my dinner. Oh, and she turns the light on and literally the broken bowl is on my dinner. On the last shards that are plenty. Right. Yeah. And she's like, Oh, okay, I didn't see the bowl on it. I was just going to ask you like what you thought. And I's like, oh, okay, I didn't see the bowl on it. Um, I was just going to ask you like what you thought. And I'm like, did you seriously call me down here to ask me if I'm willing to risk ingesting shards of glass so you don't have to make more crispy crowns?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Like what the fuck is she's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm like, no, you don't there's no sorry here. I was like, you were like, should we roll the dice instead of just making more fucking crispy crumbs? But she didn't see it like that. She's like, oh, it's bad. I don't know if you see. She's like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, yeah, like really when, um, like,
Starting point is 00:51:36 when she flicked the light on, that's when she saw the broken bowl. But prior to that, she knew she'd broken the bowl nearby. Yeah. The dinner. And I was like, that's fucked up. Yeah. Well, she smoking anything?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Was she on the straight and she was on the straight now? Straight now, yeah. I mean, she's still making the Tative Tots video, whatever they're called. Crispy crowns. She's still making the crispy crowns. She's just gonna want to remake them. So you're saying that?
Starting point is 00:52:06 No, I understand that part. The part I don't get is like, isn't it? Like the crispy crowns probably take seven to eight minutes. Yeah. A trip to the emergency room and all that that entails is gonna take a lot longer. Did you fear you couldn't see? You would start being visible shards in a place?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Oh, yeah. I did fear that it was at that shattered the bowl. Yeah, the ball is the ball is broken pretty good. Any I can't believe I'm having this conversation any class where something I'm about to eat is unacceptable. You don't find that. I probably would have did a once over before I probably would have looked to see if I could see any shards. And I probably would have just, you know, if I didn't, you know, I'd be like, all right, it looks pretty good to me. I'll take a chance. Well, this ceramic or glass glass glass like this is a pie rec's glass bowls like this clear. Yeah, I think that she should have.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I don't know if it's related to honeymoon's but she probably should have just restarted I mean I'm not gonna like paint her out to me that bad she was really apologetic, but I was just it did take me a Back a little that I was like I feel like this is not a question you would have asked me a year ago You just want to remade the fucking did you love me that out of her? Yeah, what you say? What's her answer? She said she agreed with everything I said oh, so she's saying the honeymoon's over. She said no, what you say what's her answer she said she agree with everything I said oh So she's saying the honeymoon's over she said no, I said the honeymoon's over. Yeah, but she I'm saying that she only What was questioning it when she saw the broken bowl on top like that's when she knew
Starting point is 00:53:40 This is too much for even her him to see my notice knew this is too much for him to see a broken ball on top of the sand. What she could have did though was just be thankful that she just didn't take what like clean up the ball and not even tell you to. Yeah, it's brush it off. That's what I should be thankful for. Yeah. That my wife isn't risking my life for no reason. Well, I mean, but she could have, she easily could have just, I throw it every night. She easily could have just taken the big chunks off. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Looked for little shards, a one-sover for little shards. Didn't see any, and be like, Brian, dinner's ready. Right, and then I'm on any reality show, could I marry the social panel? I don't know, I don't know, a lot of people might have just done that though. I never would, would you do that to Deb if you broke a glass, you're like, you're bringing
Starting point is 00:54:33 her some, some pudding or something or whatever she likes to eat at night. Yeah, probably not, but I could see some people not like thinking they got it all though. It's fine. Yeah. If I was got it all though. It's fine. Yeah If I was making it for myself inconceivable I would probably be like let me put it on a new plate and I'll just carefully inspect each one before I eat it Yeah, yeah, no because for my I would risk it for myself It was a make it for someone else. I probably would right would do would would restart
Starting point is 00:55:03 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I took it as I took serious on bridge to it do you feel well what does honeymoon mean food what does that mean what is that phase mean to you I guess it would be almost like nothing's ever wrong like you're always you're always just getting along and it still feels new getting yeah the apple of each other's eye. Sure. Yeah. That's done. That way, and she fucking broke the glass.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, but you can't go up one thing and declare the whole honeymoon phase over. Um, no, I mean, we get along really well. For the most part, we had a pretty big blow up recently about something that like even I'm not going to talk about, so. Oh, boy. Yeah. So you know a series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Um, but other than that, we get a, we get along pretty well. What do you want? Oh no, I'll just say, but it doesn't have that. It doesn't have that. Yeah. You know, fuck an intact fucking diet, a digestive system. But is, is it ridiculous? Yes. And unrealistic to expect the honeymoon phase to last forever?
Starting point is 00:56:11 It's completely unrealistic. Yeah. So I mean. Yeah, that's why I was wondering like what happened, what would Debbie try to get you to eat? You know, because you know everybody just settles in and becomes themselves. Yeah, I was concerned with myself. I wasn't sure she was going to go for it, but she seems to be sticking in there. Do better? Oh, do a lot better. Oh! You wanna believe the shi do at that house. Fuck you really do. But what do you do for her?
Starting point is 00:56:51 Oh for her? Yeah, what's all for her? What do you mean? This shit isn't for me. You hated the crooked house. You hated the crooked house. I hated the crooked house. I told you today though, I was like, I would rather live in the crooked house.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Um, I would then have to deal with all the shit I'm dealing with right now. Every fucking time I turn around. I knew that would happen. Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's like fucking, I call a gutter guy. Yeah. I sign up for his fucking gutter program for a year, right?
Starting point is 00:57:19 And he's like, all right, this means that you're on the priority list. So we'll be there Saturday. Now this is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Okay. So I'm like, okay, this means that you're on the priority list, so we'll be there Saturday. Now, this is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Okay. So I'm like, okay, I'll see you Saturday then. Saturday comes and goes. No call. Fucking guy doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I'm like, all right, I'll give him the weekend because it's like honor about the 21st. Sure. So the 28th comes, I'm like, that's the week. Right. So I called him and gave him some shit. I was like, look, I'm not gonna lie. I'm fucking really annoyed with you guys right now. I know you're not the guy that goes out and gave him some shit. I was like, look, I'm not gonna lie. I'm fucking really annoyed with you guys right now I know you're not the guy that goes out and cleans the gutters
Starting point is 00:57:48 But this is the date you told me then you told me the fucking next I'm sorry I called and they told me they would be there the next day and then they didn't come the next day either I had you're in your right. I mean, it's certain point and the third call I was gonna make they eventually showed up the next day When I was gonna make the third call and say I'm just contesting the charge. I don't want to go with you guys anymore Wow, It's that kind of shit where it's like it can't just be easy. Or like trying to get fucking speakers put into it. I was like I want $850. I'm like to do what? It's a fucking hang speakers up like a like a surround sound type system. I sound like a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:22 It does right? It's like a fucking no. He's I sound like a lot. It does, right? Yeah, it's like, fuck no. He's looking at that house and he's like, this is a common fun. That's what I'm afraid of. People look at that house, which is like, it's not a fucking mansion or anything. Yeah, it's a nice house, man. They see a pool, they see a second house.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm like, oh, he must have fucking lots of money. Yeah. And say, well, overcharge him. A sucker, Walt. Oh, but did the, did the, did that price come with the speakers? No, he was like, it's, that was for wire and labor. I already had the speakers.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Oh, okay. Did you, did you, now do you call someone else and get a price check on it? No, I decided that's even near the going rate that I don't want. They don't want, I don't want anybody to skip bluetooth speakers. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I did. I'm getting like a sonos bar. It's gonna fucking sound bar call it. Yeah That's what I got. I just got a sound bar and then these two little speakers in the back I mean it could be worse. You could have to clean your own gutters That I would have done it, but it's like I'm afraid I'm gonna fall off. Yes, I'm probably gonna fall off. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:59:23 You're gonna fall off. Yeah. You're gonna fall off. Yeah. So I don't want to do that. These guys, like, when I eventually I was watching, they come in, they got these high pressure hoses and they wash your... Yeah, I know. I was, I think it's like Edgar's house, like when we used to go up and clean gutters on that.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It was a relatively flat roof. Who's we? Me and Edgar. Oh, okay. They looked at me. I was like, I remember. Remember that wall? Me and I, you're okay. You look at me, it's like I remember. Remember that wall? Me and you, I don't remember. The leaf brothers. No, leaves.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah. Who's blowing leaves? Leaves. Yeah, like I, like there's no way I could grow and a pit anybody to do as cutters, but I'm like, I'll say it, I'm afraid. I don't want to fall off. I'm gonna get hurt.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Are you afraid of heights? No, I'm not afraid of heights, but I'm afraid of stumbling. My knee given out or my ankle given out. The pitch of the roof just being too much for him. So they send over these strapping youngsters ready to climb up those ladders? Yeah, these big hulking Russian guys. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Maribeth like blast that gutter. LAUGHTER I was like, why isn is there any glass in there sandwich? We to announce the Christmas episodes coming out the date. Sure, of course. December 15th. It's dropping on Patreon and Bandcamp. Patreon and Bandcamp for the annual Christmas show. Oh my God, The expectations cube. I see people online
Starting point is 01:00:46 comparing the TSD X-Mess special to WrestleMania. Oh super bowl. Oh, no Those are some lofty expectations when you're what 13 years in yeah, it's tough I think Sunday Jeff says the best what's there left to talk about Yeah, but we're gonna give it a shot. We're gonna give it the Jeff says at best what's he left to talk about. Yeah. But we're gonna give it a shot. We're gonna give it the best we can do. We're gonna give it an honest effort by 12 years in. They're like they usually don't give them a call for first.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's why I'm kind of low energy this episode. I'm saving it all because we're recording it after this episode. Yeah. I'm building up, storing up all my energy so I could be high energy in the next episode. So you get it. Okay, I mean, it's not, so you're saying lower your expectations
Starting point is 01:01:33 for the Christmas episode. No, not saying that. I'm saying it's going to be the best Christmas episode ever in the history of TSD Christmas episodes. And if you miss it, you know, it's your own fault and you have no one to blame about yourself. And if that's why you have a suck-ass Christmas, well now you know why, because you didn't listen to the TSD Christmas episode of 2022. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Don't even know what year it is, because that's all I think about is Christmas. Yeah. Do better, you jerks. Yeah, it's going to be on band camp and it's going to be on the Patreon if you, uh, for Patreon members, they don't have to go buy it then. It's nice. It's a nice thing. That's, that's a month right there.
Starting point is 01:02:18 If you're on the 5th or 10th, right? Yeah, I think you can just go join up for that month, get the Christmas episode, sample some other stuff and Well, maybe you You realize that hey, you know, I like this stuff too and you stick around for more than just a month Freddie free loaders. Yeah, don't be hard on yourself like look I've been fucking up for the past four years by not being on patreon. I'm a termite. Yeah, I hate myself Don't think about that. You have to take the December 15th.
Starting point is 01:02:52 715th or 15th is the 10 days before Christmas that gives a lot. I figured 10 days for people to listen to it. Okay. More Christmas. Yeah. To, uh, to find the spirit and to find the, uh, that you're giving us. Yeah. But it's going to be, uh, it's going to be a shindig. Uh, I'm excited. I got it. You told us the gifts for each other.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Like no video this year, though, no video this year. No strictly audio because I feel like when we go strictly audio, it feels more old school feels more true. The SD vibes and we just don't have enough time to edit a video. Really Chuck? I don't know that like to get it up but by- Chuck's not defendable. No. It's just too much to ask somebody to get it all cut up and everything by December 15th to do it right. I said I bet you Chuck could have pulled it off. I'm sure he could have. Chuck's the fucking man bro. I think it was mostly because here schedule wasn't
Starting point is 01:03:46 Well, you're leaving too. I'm leaving to yeah, so there's a video this week though. No Yeah, so Mark your counters. Okay, but so marked All right, anything else? The only thing I had on my little list of things here is there's a tortoise that's 190 years old. Oldest living creature on earth. Wow. That's land creature, sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah, like lobsters can live right? Yeah. Where is this thing? This guy, he's in, his name is Jonathan the tortoise, oldest living land animal. Hold on, because the post is not very friendly to my iPad. He first arrived in his current home on the island of St Helena in the South Atlantic in 1882 as a gift to the governor of the island, which is a British territory. And at that time, he was already thought to be 50 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:46 He's outlived. They said that they thought that he would only live to be about 140. But he's really about the tortoise that allows it to live that long. I don't know. That's pretty good. Would you inject tortoise DNA into your body? What are the side effects? We don't know. Do I grow shell? No, you start turdling unexpectedly. Yeah, I mean the answer does yeah, I would do anything to kind of extend life. But Gita was the one who said that you should do it. Well, you also have the injection that he got from Mexico. Again, it was like, I believe that if you inject tortoise antibodies into your bloodstream,
Starting point is 01:05:31 I've been doing it for years. You can live longer. You would, oh, so you need a doctor to tell you to do this? Probably, I guess on this one, I might need a doctor on it. But you know, doctors are, you know, they want to study it. They want to do tests. Sure. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:05:47 It's just a big waste of time. Like the whole idea is to extend his life, not to short. And by the time they approve it, you're in your seventies, and what you could do it now and get a head start and remain, you know, youthful. Sure. Well, well into your, you know, 130s.
Starting point is 01:06:03 How did he extract the DNA from the tortoise? Yeah, he went up to the turtle bag zoo. Okay, and when nobody was looking He grabbed his syringe and just drew some blood from the tortoise's leg And now he's got one file left And you just wanted to be your cues vile. I couldn't I couldn't The side effect is that your hands at feet become like torus skin. Yeah, so green and Scali, more of a grayish green.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Well, feet I don't really care about. Like I could just wear socks. Might even be nice in the pool. Yeah? Good day, yeah. Hands, so the tradeoff is I'm living to 190 in my current age. Yeah, that's a good trade off though But I got scaling in I would probably do it. I just wear gloves
Starting point is 01:06:49 I wear gloves all the time because he burned his head sure. Yeah Kane Kane. I think he said the cameo's like yeah, he wasn't wearing them last night But yeah, he does often wear gloves. Yeah, I would do it. I would take that sure fuck why not? They someone asked like Why you wearing gloves all the time, Q, even in the pool? I'm like, I'm part tortoise. I'm going to walk for me. Man, I'm fucking part tortoise. What are you talking about? Well, how did you, what happened? What do you mean you're part tortoise?
Starting point is 01:07:15 I'd be like, look, get him onto the turtle back zoo. Who's get him? He's my old story. I'm trying to save his coach. Wait, but he's not a doctor? No, no, no, no. Strictly speaking, no. What am I gonna wait? Suddenly? In his much as he's in my office,
Starting point is 01:07:37 giving me a medical address as a doctor. I think I would be free and open with it, maybe. Maybe they maybe don't hide it. Just be like like because now everybody I know it's gonna die, but that kid was arrested for definitely, you know, but it works it works But you know he can't just like you checked all right. I don't have to I would Turtle antibodies and get away with it. I won't I won't rat out who did it Okay, but I will I'll be up front like I'll be like I'll be like look this is you maybe noticing my hands
Starting point is 01:08:05 I'll be up front, like I'll be like, look, you may be noticing my hands. It's because I'm going to live to a llama 190 at least and the tradeoff is scaly hands. I got injected with tortoise damage. Now this conversation happened only week after you took the serum. It's not like I've been proven at all. It's not like I've been proven at all. But I got the hands. But you got the hands, the only thing that has happened so far
Starting point is 01:08:26 is your hands are too strong. It's weird, it wasn't always up to my elbow before. I'm starting to nervous. Yeah, maybe I should have waited for this. We didn't put our doctors. Dr. Giddle. I don't know why I let this guy know what I was thinking it sounds stupid Yeah, wow. I would take the tradeoff if it was possible. It worked. Yeah, I think it most people would. Yeah. Yeah. Give us a sweet deal. Yeah. So your hands are a little messed up whenever. If we're a dude, it's definitely, you know, no big deal.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Girls may be a different story to if they got to walk around with nasty feet and hands. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cause they care so much about their shoes. They, you know, how much they spend on their nails. Yeah. How much they, you know, they, they think that, you know, it's such an important part of their, their makeup is their hands and their nails. I love the passive aggression Settle like fucking bitches crazy How much is he nails no I know this is five times all that yeah I've brought sage and Mary Beth like you know I dropped them off and got the nails done and it's like it's fucking expensive Yeah, it's not like ten bucks. No, especially if you get like gel nails like that I guess that's like a harder nail that stays longer or something
Starting point is 01:10:05 Oh, it's like fucking almost like a hundred dollars a person holy shit Yeah, hundred bucks a person how often you gotta do it once a month or something 12 hundred years. I think if the John L You can get him like if they chip you can get him repaired. I think okay kind of stuff No, and there's no nail polish on the planet that's gonna make your tortoise hands look better No, you stuck with those dreams. Would you want a would you be okay with a handy put somebody who had tortoise hands? Is it cute? No, it's I'm assuming it's my monocount here I'm assuming it's very bad. She got the engine. She took get them's advice. Oh, she's now
Starting point is 01:10:42 I want to get patients am my patient or not you were smart enough to like hold off of this Some reason wants to be a hundred and ninety I mean if I like to wear a skin and she kind of talks slow too like a tourist now like Right You're I dropped up in your ball. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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Starting point is 01:11:24 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I guess so. Come here and give me a hand. This is slow as hand being a little more. It's like, eh. You like that. Feeling good. Oh yeah. I'm so happy that you created it all the way. Where do you want to shoot?
Starting point is 01:11:52 Next holiday, tell your brother to wear. Sweeps. Get those boxes out of the garage. Can you only tell me necessary stuff from now on? Anything else is right it down. Oh, the honey moon is over. She's just in the pool. She's just swimming around.
Starting point is 01:12:19 She's more tortoise than woman. Look, crying no wrinkles. She's more tortoise than woman Look Ryan no Rink calls You got me there And if I did it would take me an hour You call me to complain, I'm like, hey, but very bad Q on to talk to you. All right, anything else?
Starting point is 01:12:59 No, my only other thing was more of a statement because the Q, I'm sure you don't watch a little house on the prairie Walt I know you watched it long ago in the past. Yeah, I was objecting myself to in the present to those episodes I am convinced Nelly Olson who is the daughter of the the local merchant the blonde the blonde girl convinced she's written as a sociopath Oh, isn't she like totally like cruel? She's beyond me. Yeah, she's crazy Yeah, like there was an episode the other day. Well the mom's like really fucking her mom's a content. Yeah No, there's an episode where like Laura has this horse Nelly wants it Nelly somehow gets it and then starts like whipping the shit out of it
Starting point is 01:13:47 Like whipping the horse and so the horse like goes crazy and knocks Nelly off Nelly breaks her arm or something They give the horse back to Laura, but Nelly's like can't move She's paralyzed in the bed to the doctor comes by and he's like pressing her toes with shit opinion shit she's not like reacting and Like now she starts campaigning because they gave the horse away to Laura. She starts campaigning for the horse to be shot. And then it turns out later on,
Starting point is 01:14:13 spoiler alert, everybody from 1975, somebody sees her dancing in a window with her doll. She's like, this new doll she just got, she's dancing her out of the ship. And she, even after that, she goes back in bed pretend she's like this new doll, she just got, she's dancing around with that shit. And she lay it even after that, she goes back in bed pretend she's crippled and still demands that the horse be shot. Oh, that is fucked up.
Starting point is 01:14:31 It's nuts, man. That's pretty out there. I was like, this is deeper than I thought. I was in an era before there was medicine to treat people like that, right? Oh, nuts, poopy poopy poopy. Like a four-lane personality, just pee pee. Like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like, or like Steve Dave

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