Tell Em Steve-Dave - #551: The Joe DeRosa Train

Episode Date: March 26, 2023

Bry proposes a posthumous prank, fencing, would you go back to your five-year-old self. https://ter.li/AmericanMusicalSupply-TESD

I love him. I love him. You're so fucking much. I think my wife might have a crush on Joe DeRosa. And that's what I want to say about Joe DeRosa. Women fucking love that guy. Dude, we went to the Prudential Center. Is Joe DeRosa coming? We went to your birthday party. Is Joe DeRosa coming?

It's like poochie. It's like if Joe DeRosa isn't there, everybody should be asking. Center is Joe DeRosa coming. We went to your birthday party is Joe DeRosa coming It's like Pucci. It's like if Joe DeRosa isn't there everybody should be asking where's Joe DeRosa? Yeah, I get it Tell them Steve Dave hello and welcome to this week's edition of tell them Steve Dave. Hey wall wall Yeah, maybe cute. Hello. We're all here. I got to quickly give a shout out to my buddy, Cardiff, electric Walt. He's a listener. He's involved in many, many podcasts that I listen to

and they're all at war with each other. He came on to the show that I do with Eric Nagel. Would you kindly, he came on yesterday and he said to say hello to Walt. What's his name? He's a listener, Cardiff, electric. He's a podcaster, but he appears as an animated potato. It's like a potato filter. So you don't know. So no one knows what he looks like? I don't think yeah, and I think even when he goes to live appearances, he's still like, well where

he wore like this fucked up looking potato mask. Really? I'm intrigued. Yeah. I am very intrigued. Like, yeah, that's, I would love to get to, to get to the bottom of that. Maybe get them on the show, and he'll call in for sure. Yeah. What do you come in in his potato mask? I'm not sure, where he lives in Minnesota, though.

He does have a heavy Canadian accent, so it's. And he's at war with. No, he's sort of in the middle of this with this, this, this, it's really difficult to explain, but it's like there's these, like Stuttering John was on the start show. What's that guy still kicking around? Not anymore. Now he's he went away for a little while. No, he said he's coming back though. He, he like left the podcast in game. He says he's coming back in May or something. Now the podcast, who are these podcasts that I always listen to? Carl used to do a regular segment on Stuttering John and what he

was up to. And then like, Shulee took it and ran with it. And then people took it and ran with it. Okay. And then there was like, I like Shulee. I don't like Shulee. You don't like Shulee? I don't like Shulee. I like Shulee. All right. I know you're a Shulee fan, but I'm not a not a Shulie guy. He's not even on the show anymore. He loved it. No, quite some time ago. But anyway, so there's another guy named Chad Zumak who just recently faked being beaten up. Oh, and he tried to put one over on everybody saying that like Anthony Kuhnier had something to do with it. It's so involved all this drama and all these podcasts that are coming to my side. It sounds so boring with it. It's so involved all this drama and all these podcasts that are coming to our side.

Oh, I sound so boring. To battle each other. It's not though. No? No, I don't know why. It should be boring. And there are times when I do feel like, oh, fuck this shit. It's just, it's too much.

It's your mandrama. Yeah, I think it's like my housewives in Hollywood. It's your mandrama that like guys, you know, seek out. Yeah, I need some drama's your man drama that like guys you know seek out Yeah, I need some drama. I got nothing going on. Yeah, we're meeting way too regularly now We have no stories to talk about I said I'm very happy. I was like, I don't even know what the fuck I'm gonna talk about We had just nothing going on there like we're literally just dying You guys can't tell the audience this

literally just dying. You guys can't tell the audience this. You're gonna deserve to know it. They know it. I see it like they're like all in up, TSD lost the fastball. Yeah, they had it like, yeah, man, we don't have anything going on. We're at that age. Well, you think it's time to wrap it up?

I don't know. I don't know. Or else, or else we got to fucking create. Take a year break. Drama. Not a year. Well, I don't think we need to create any I think we've got some going on. We just have to expose it Or we just gotta be the next big thing we got every we got a reveal or we got to be committed to doing trying Or doing something in between episodes that would elicit some conversation.

Right. It just can't be like, oh, I watch TV. Which is what I'm doing. I'm not looking at you, your wife. I know you're like, I'm pointing a finger at you. But I've discovered a new show and I told him to. It would be rightly pointed. What did you discover? Frank V turned me on to a show called The Middle that's no longer on.

But I'm loving it. Yeah, and I'm like, how did this show exist for nine years? I never heard of it. It must have been the worst PR of any network show I ever heard. It was a regular network show, right? Yeah, I think it was on Channel 4, but it's just a typical family show, family comedy, sitcom, and I really like it. Huh?

And I've been binging. And I don't usually binge. Yeah. You know, I know the binge. Yeah, you're not known to binge So I told we got to get something going on. I mean, you know what? I don't go out anymore No, no winter. It's it's Yeah, I think and like even when I do like I did my buddy Vinnie Polino's podcast the other day the creep off Hmm, it's not like I go somewhere. It's like I said it

My little office for an hour and and talk about it. Yeah I once he joda roses show last night. I was a great. I just fucking historical I think my wife might have a crush on joda Rosa. I I will sing him up so much So joda Rosa is a comedian. He hosts podcasts with my boy, Sal right because sometimes we don't introduce what we're talking about That's true. Yeah, I'm to assume everyone knows who we know. And he's a dark, he's dark. And I don't mean of swar the complexion. I mean like he is like his mind is.

Although he is Italian. Yeah, he is. He is. His mind is a very dark place. I love him. I love him. You're great. He's great.

So fucking much. I went. He does this once. He does this. He's on tour now. It's called I never promised you rose garden. I went to see it for the first time last night. Fucking darkest at the word, man. He calls it hopeless comedy.

He's like, this show will give, and he is, he's going after everybody. He's like, what you want comedians to be. Like, he's not trying to fucking walk a line. He's not trying to be politically correct. He's not trying to say the right things. He's pointing at everything and like, this sucks, you suck, this is why everything sucks

and this is why we're all doomed. And I fucking loved it. And the audience was very young and they fucking ate it up and it gave me hope for future generations. That's good to hear, because when we went to see a cell last summer, I guess it was when he was down in Atlantic City and Joe DeRose opened for him and like Joe's style of comedy is definitely different than cells and there were I remember the people behind us are like

hoffin and chuffin and like that's not funny. I'm like, yo, yes it is. It's so fucking funny. This is a bit on like why evil is good and like it's fucking awesome, man. I love it. And then he he yeah, he's opening for us on Minnesota, I think too. And he told me the other day, he's like, I'm considering that the Joker's audience is not going to swallow my random comedy. And I was like, you know what, though, dude, I don't care. Like I love it. It's up for Stop for them. So for me, it's for me to sit backstage and like listen and stuff like that. Yeah, boy the fuck did I say that for?

Oh, I got out of the house, maybe that's why. Oh, okay. Nothing else going on, anything interesting, any, any, any, like, things that are bugging you, or you know, you know, you know, if you're a cute, sounded off maybe, or a segment, like you. And your squirrels die.

No, my squirrels are good. They're now, they're now, they, now they just, I just leave my window open and they come up to the window and they, and I just hand them a peanut while I, like I'll be right there. And they'll come up and I'll just reach over my laptop and give it to him and they'll run off.

So that's the latest with that. I got, I wanna say thank you to Ashley, who sent me a painting of Benjamin Cat. I just got it when I got here for my birthday. Thank you so much. I love it. Cryed about him the other day again. I can't get over it. Well, I've never lost a pet that I What I'm gonna start crying right now. I never lost a pet. No, don't That I've that I was so bonded with, I can't. How many did you grow up with pets as a child?

I had some rabbits, one that I loved very much. Others were rabbits. They say that, you know, that, that helps prepare you if you, if you've had pets that you, yeah. That you have to say goodbye to throughout your, right, when, you know, you get kind of, not, I was to get used to it, but you. The process. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never, I guess I never went through it because this is, I, I, I can't get over it.

Like I will just be sitting. I mean, not, it's not like the day after where I'm like walking around tearing my hair out and shit like that, but like I can't walk into my office, which is where he lived without the office in my house without Still open in that door and be like where where is it? Now do you have other cats? I know you do right? I have two other cats Who I love very much and they're certainly like feeling No, and it's like I'm actually watching another cat now for friends I have three cats now.

And what about it? And I don't mean to say no. No, no, no. And you help me. Because I don't want you, because I know that it could be taken the wrong way. Well, like that could never do it. But I found when I lost my first dog, it was getting a puppy.

It's, you know, I didn't, I felt a little bit get what I was just like, well, it made me feel better. Yeah. You had that puppy scamper and around and you kind of like forgot about, you know, feeling bad because you were, you were kind of consumed with the puppy's needs and its antics. Yeah, the antics are good. I don't know. I'm like a kitten with that. Tough to introduce a kitten to new cats like

Crazy to roll a chest. He's now like 13 and he's getting older so he probably wouldn't be so happy with a kitten So I think I'm gonna let my current crop Age out before I get a kitten and then maybe do that cloning thing that I It's well, do you think this helps her hurts Walt. He has this I can't get over it man. I'm it's well, do you think this helps her hurts Walt? He has this he used it at the prudential show and used it at his birthday party. He has a little clicker where he can press a button

and hear Benjamin's meow. Yeah, that doesn't help, right? Carry that around. No, that yeah, that would be and you click it when you feel random. Just like click it on stage. Well, I started middle of performing. People were making fun of me for having it. Not making fun of me, but they were like,

I was like, and I incorporated it into the live show as a joke. So it's in the live show as a joke. But I, like, we were at the Prudential Center and I hit the button and put it on the mic. And it is. Could you explain what it was? Yeah, yeah, it's all part of the button and put it on the mic and it is. Did you explain what it was? Yeah, yeah, it's all part of the I tell some of the story and stuff like that on stage.

And you explained why you're doing it? Yeah, it gets left. Trust me. It got left. It gets left. Yeah, the way that I present it gets left. But there is something cool about like sold out like Prudential Center and just hitting that button, hearing his meow, fill the hole.

Wow. It's it's cathartic and I'm constantly searching for these ways to feel better about it, but a week goes by that it does not go by that. How long has it been? It was in November. Yeah. I'm just it may it might it might take a little bit longer than you thought it would. Yeah, is it possible it may it might it might take a little bit longer than you thought it would

Yeah, is it possible he's just a baby? It's possible It's possible by it's also possible. He just you know, it's rough You're you know unconditional love Yeah, is that He's reminded of We also click start to click or can't help, they help you constantly if you're clicking that though. Yeah, but you ever see how like,

how like somebody's son dies on a car accident and then they get like a little, a little golden medallion with a face on it and they wear it all the time. You want a golden medallion of Benjamin? Oh, I already have it. Somebody gave me a shea actually gave it to me for my birthday.

Is that the thing too? Is it, is people giving you gifts that could keep reminding you? No. That's when this when this painted Benjamin cut came in, I was like, oh, this is my own wealth and the rest of the show. Like, yeah, you know, when, you know, when inevitably, you know, socks and Cooper go, please don't send in pictures of French bulldog paintings of front. Yeah, because that just me would be a constant like you know, dredging up a reminder. Yeah, even though I'm sure the detentions are fantastic and and so well meaning though that you just don't

know if that's a good or bad thing to send something like that in for you Obviously you've for a man there whatever anyone Ashley Ashley. It was a good thing though. It's a good thing I'm gonna hang this in this gonna hang in my house for the rest of my life now But it is it is just shocking to me how it I'm not getting over it You still talking to your shrink? No, I haven't done that in a while. You know, last year was so busy making the show without Joe and rebuilding it and stuff like that.

That I really have time for it. So. You guys can do remote sessions now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's a healthy, you know, I don't know. I don't, you know, I don't know. He ain't heard, I guess, don't you? Well, what am I gonna say? I'm gonna be like, I don't, you know, I don't know. I can't hurt, I guess, don't you?

But what am I gonna say? I'm gonna be like, I miss my friends. I am mad, I don't know what these doctors do. I don't know what they, do they make you feel better? Do they tell you advice and things that make you feel better? Usually the ones that I've gone to are like, they don't ask you or advise you on shit.

They tell you things, and then you're supposed to draw your own Conclusions and work your own way through it. You know, they'll ask pertinent questions that will be like well, you know Q maybe if you didn't you like how would you feel about not carrying the clicker on you one day, you know or like I don't care every day. I don't have it on me now But yeah, it's in my house more like I'll just I'll just press it right and I take it on tour because now it's part of the show. Yeah, yeah, I it's just it's it's I knew how much I love that cat and I'm surprised that I still can't talk to him when I get choked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough man, you know, it's Yeah, and especially when you're not like super close to a lot of people, you know, like that that was your guy, you know?

Yeah. But anyway, yes, so not a lot going on. We're still waiting for season 11 order to come in. And if we do start working on season 11, and I think we will, I don't think that will start up again to possibly November January. So it'll be a distraction, a distraction. Well, I'm working on other things. This work never goes away.

You know, I'm just not shooting jokers at the moment, but I don't know, it's not, it's not, it's not like I'm walking around the house. It's just I'm just not losing the sense of loss. This is not going away. It's weird. There's like, yeah, there's no, I lost grandparents. Yeah. And it didn't, and it didn't drag out like this. You know, yeah.

It was just a really something special about that cat relationship with me. You're thinking about adding an addition to your family, right? Yeah, we got shot down. Mary Beth wants to get a dog down. Oh, awesome. So we applied it to some shelter that was in New York City and we got turned down because the fence was like an invisible fence where you put the collar on them and it'll give them a little zap if they go near it. I guess that's the kind of fence we have. Oh, they don't like that. And they don't like that. The trainer say it makes them aggressive and

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So therefore we can't, you know, allow you to have a dog at this time. Meanwhile, every watch TV, every homeless motherfucker on earth has a dog with them. Everybody, everybody on cops have fucking alleyway. Every episode of cops, there's 10 dogs at pile out at houses of this white trash mother fuckers They want you to fence in your yard. I guess they would prefer it to be fenced in which I was like you just should have said I had a fence then I mean how much would fence that I was talking a wall to about this like Yeah, astronomical major choke how much offense call and that's probably just a chain link right no I put up a one of those big vinyl. Oh, you like the wall ones. Yeah, I did it one in 2003 though And I thought it was like out of bounds what what the fence industry is charging for to put up a fence

That was 2003. Yeah, I can imagine 20 years later 20 years later all the inflation and cost increases in material and all that shit I mean I put up fencing around my house a few years ago, and I was I was two things I was shocked about the price and the quality. I'm like, this is what's passing for fucking like like I'm not saying like fences are still the best. They never change. You know what I mean? They put them in the ground. It's the post they they can't fuck up the quality of that too much But like these like heritage fences whatever the fuck they call them Right, you're like they're fucking cheap ass a little bit of it's not gonna keep out a single zombie It's crazy like what happened to you all like

Rod iron like cool looking you got a key West and like all the houses have those beautiful All the road iron fences. Oh, I wasn't even looking into getting one of those. I just got like a vinyl stockade fence and it's expensive. And we actually, well, I helped as much as I could help, but we wound up having to put it in ourselves. Oh, you put the slats in when I wanted some of that? Well, you put the posts in. Samantha? I don't remember. I think so. Oh, I would the slats in one by one and some of that. Well, you put the posts in cement.

I don't remember. I think so. I would have to imagine. I think so. It's happy. Dad did it, but I helped, but as far as like, you know, you need a glass of water. I just show him up your brow. It was so long ago though, but I, I thought when you told me you were getting a dog, I was

just like, especially from a shelter. I was like, I don't know if they'll give him a dog because he doesn't have a fence or he's gonna have to invest in a fence and he's gonna fucking swallow his tongue. Yeah. He's like, I haven't even priced him. I was like, just tell him we have a fence. I was like, good to one of these like less attentive shelters, you know, nearby. I don't know why she's looking in New York. We got one right over and fucking eaten town.

Yeah, why New York? I don't know. She was online in New York. We got one right over and fucking eaten town. Yeah, why New York? I don't know. She was because she was online and I guess she she came across this place. Yeah, so some puppy that she liked and puppy will be great, man. Yeah, that'll help me mood for sure. Yeah, that's I feel like because they they have the cats like the cats really like Sage and Mary Beth. So I figure I'll co-op the dog once she gets it and I'll bring it with me everywhere. And he can look at one of those one of those pit bulls that's always, you know, champion of the people attacking into some people. Well, you could do this. I was thinking about this last night. It's easier for me because I'm much older than my wife, but that doesn't mean

you can't do it too. You get what are they call like a lock box at a bank? What are they called? Safety deposit? Safety deposit? Yeah, you get one of them. You write a letter, right? And you give the key to somebody that you trust and you were like, only open this upon my death, right?

Don't give it to Debbie. Okay. Do I tell her about it? No. Okay. Give it to one of the kids or something. So then upon your death, they open it up and it's an envelope that's marked for the police. And you write like, upon my death, I want my wife investigated.

I've had a suspicion for some time now that you've been trying to kill me. And then you write a whole letter that I'll fuck with her like posthumously. It's great. And then like at the the very ambi like and also check out her Search history. I think she was on their dark web look at some pretty sketchy stuff So it's not enough that you I've lost her husband. She's also getting tortured I thought I was like that'll be great Can't you keep the spirit of the prank with the lock box or anything but not have the dark when traumatic

Look like can you keep the element still like you know like this little puzzle or whatever and the little mystery but at the end it's like just want to let everyone know I love you and I love every you know just more what about like a feel good message at the end Why doesn't have to be like Because they wouldn't say would be like this isn't from him Where's the threats That was the men's I want to make sure she's not dating Joe de Rosa soon as I die The cops will tire up a little bit. That's not what say about Joe de Rosa women fucking love that guy dude We went to the Prudential Center is Joe DeRosa coming. We went to your

birthday party is Joe DeRosa coming. It's like Pucci. It's like if Joe DeRosa isn't there everybody should be asking where's Joe DeRosa. Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's funny because like sometimes I'll just I'll just just guy that's Joe DeRosa. It looks like fucking Jared Fogel my wife's got a hot forum. Are you really? I'm telling you, I'm pretty sure. This guy, women love this fucking guy. I don't think he's been a guy.

I'm not saying it like, what am I saying? Yeah, but it's just like the way that you're talking about him is like, you know, he's got, Oh, he's like the Brad Pitt of comedy. Yeah, like his jokes are Spanish fly. Maybe they are because he says shit that you don't hear comedians really saying anymore. It's funny, you know?

It's funny. But now I want to go see a show. It's so good. It's so big. Yeah, when you said Jared Fogel, was that guy from Subway? Yeah. He had a jail yet?

No, I think 20. He's still in jail. He's still in jail. I think. What do you foresee, like like if you had to guess What is His day-to-day life when he gets out? I think he's probably stays home at first a lot because he still has a lot of money

He still has money. Yeah, I watched it. There's I didn't What about all that legal bills that didn't fucking drain his bank account? No And he even got a divorce here to give his wife millions. And he still had to give his victims millions of dollars and he still has millions of dollars. How does he acquire all these millions? I mean, he was a spokesman for like 20 years. I know, but really though, but like with subway just drunk with fucking money and that they

were just like corporate endorsements, you get a lot of money. A lot of money. Yeah. Like you're a right like flow from progressive or whatever it is. You know, like if you have a national campaign and you're on like all the time, like so fucking willingly to give millions, you know, usually they kind of like play. There are rules. There are like sag rules that they have to pay him a certain. You think he's in sag for me without a doubt. Yeah Yeah. As an endorsement of a fast food company.

But I mean, he was going all, like I watched a two-part documentary on him, the other day it was on Hulu, I think. And I mean, this guy was everywhere. He was traveling everywhere as like the subway ambassador. He was going to franchise openings. He's going to fucking malls. He's going to fucking concert.

He was everywhere. I mean, like I remember seeing him around, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's making millions of doing it. Maybe they're picking up a tab for his airfare. In this case, he had so much money. Yeah, he had a lot of money. I think when he finally got busted, they estimated his worth like 15 million. 15? Yeah. Chao. Yeah. He sells a couple million left. Well, I suggested to cue that they could get them on the cheap since Derosa has his own sandwich shop. Derosa has no sandwich shop.

He does, yeah. Joey Rosas in on Rvington Street in Manhattan. Great bar. It's a bar sandwich shop. Great place to hang out. We all love Jotaro's a Walt Kettle. Yeah, we want to get on the Derosa train. I want to tell them something though to be Joe Dero-Sat Train.

And you want to be the Jared Fogel of his- No, I want once Jared Fogel gets out of jail to be- Oh, he could be the first one. You know, I could get him for a fucking song. Oh, I think even Jared Fogel will be like, I'm out of that game. I just want to- I like just want to be a trick. Yeah, but I gotta give a low profile. I'm not doing that again.

We're gonna pay you a Filipino children. Oh, if he has, if he gets out of jail and he's got like, let's say after all seven done, he's got like, like, what, three million, four million in the bank. Hmm. He could buy a cab in the middle of nowhere and just live out his life on acreage by himself. He's, he's going to have to do. Well, you got the most famous pedophile in the world, right?

He's up there. I wouldn't have thought that, but who's, who's bigger? Jimmy Saville. His dad's pretty bad. He's never heard of him. Oh, a lie, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Hmm. You probably, what about, what about, well, yeah, hmm You probably what it all what about well, he's the most famous one Debs seems dead to heaven Yeah Funny how you didn't hear anything about anybody who ever went to his island is like one guy like I don't know the prince guy

Did he take the heat? He had a bullshit title. He'd take it from, and he lives on a fucking castle. And they made him move out. Yeah, they gave him a give him the boots. Now he lives in the small castle. I was brothers in charge. I don't know if his brother's gonna do that.

So you think you could, you live that life? Could you just go to a cabin and kind of live in the middle of nowhere and that's your existence? Yes, you could. I could do that even if I'm Jeff, a cabin and kind of live in the middle of nowhere and that's your existence. Yes. You could. I could do that even if I'm not. If the alternative isn't getting lynched wherever I go. Yeah.

You know, not like, would you get plastic surgery? If I was him. Yeah. That's a good idea. You got to change your ego. I would do it. That's a good idea. I would do it.

I would get hair transplant. I would change my appearance. Yeah. Use those goofy it. I'd get hair transplants. I would change my appearance. Yeah. Use those goofy glasses. Yeah. Huh. Get fat again. Get fat again. I don't think plastic surgery is that much. No. No. No, I don't think so. If you're a plastic surgeon, do you take the take a emancipation? No, no, and why he needs the plastic surgery? Me? No. I'm sure there are plastic surgeons out there I I can't I don't want to be around that

Yeah, be creepy Yuck Jared full Jared what the fuck were you up to? Yeah, what would you guys I was having this conversation the other day unless you have something else Well, I got some new stories, but nothing great. It's hypothetical which I know either the audience who loves or hates but let's say you woke up tomorrow in your five-year-old body whatever year that was, how what year was it? I was five? 72 bro fucking. That was the best year in the US. That was one's saying it's really sung. Yeah.

You know, it played their own instruments. So you wake up in your five year old body. With your current brain. Carb brain five year old body. You don't know how it happened. You don't know how long it's gonna last. Could be the rest of your life. Could be a reset.

Or you could be there for a day. You don't know. All you know is it's 1972. You wake up in your bedroom and you have every memory you have up to the day you left in 1923. What do you do? What's the move? Aside from buying, of course, Google stock.

Oh, yeah. I've said myself up there. Absolutely. Everybody's doing. Was that Marty McFly? Yeah. You know, like where he was like not buying the stocks and shit and he was kind of like well He tried to buy the the future the sports Almanac of the future and bet on it. Oh, yeah

I would be buying that all aside. We got that Everybody's up for a fucking big fucking amazing adult life. Yeah, are you concerned at all? Because you make too many changes you might might not end up with the same family. The kids can lose it all. Yeah, I mean, do you basically have to retrace your stuff? Well, Brian, it doesn't have to do anything. Because, you know, as long as his sister marries... Weedy.

Weedy, she's gonna have Sage. Right. That is like nothing you do probably is gonna affect that. I don't know because it's, I don't have to play matchmaker. Well, you gotta think about it because like Sage is a result of a specific sperm hitting a specific egg, right? At the right exact moment.

At the right exact moment. So anything you do can throw that off You know In the room no What if Ryan like that egg Isn't it but what what if he broke his sister's foot? What if he broke his sister's foot? What? Oh, it's something he's something.

Hi, man. Get in there. Get on that front post. Get on that fucking front post. Get out of here, we need to let me show you how it's done. I thought he was gonna see that. No, I really did not think he was gonna see that. Let's say he broke her foot and it caused her to walk a certain way

that he doesn't do it on the reboot. I know it doesn't turn her off, but it made her whole body rhythm change. Like anything you do could change any. All they have to do is not fuck away. So you're telling me that the egg and the specific sperm, if it hits a different egg, it's a different child. Yeah. Why? Because that's how biology works. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah. You got to think like there's millions, like, yeah, enough, it's a different sperm hit in the

egg. You know, it's same egg. Yeah, the odds of you being alive are, yeah, sure. I mean, as certain as anything I can do, but, but whatever. It's like he might change it enough. His family has more money that your sister doesn't fuck we do that day. Fucks are on another day. Well, then for sure, you're not getting sage right so anything you do

Is gonna fucking cheat so do you just write that off and be like oh well sage hat, you know she's on another timeline I guess I don't know it's in parallel world you're fucked anyway though because when you go back to 1972 yeah You I'll tell you one for me, but yeah You cannot Say what's going to happen tomorrow because you we wouldn't have memories of what's gonna happen the next day You got the big events. Yeah, the 9 11s the meds winning the 86 world 95 Yeah, you got the big events, but like we don't have like firm concrete memories of what the next day holds, what we would have done,

because we're too young. Correct. So you've painted us a picture that we can't win, and it's inevitable that everything changes. Well, you've painted it. You're millionaires. Yes, but like, yeah, but like we are going to change other people's lives with that, by having that knowledge, so there's no doubt about it. Does it help if you're changing their lives for the better?

I don't know and you also some people might not be born then and that though they're not gonna be that happy You don't know what happened for all you know you're in another timeline in this world is continuing as it always was does Sage need to exist on every fucking timeline in this world is continuing as it always was does sage need to exist on every fucking timeline in every possible world sometimes I think not so I want you know I just it's a moral quandary so what would you do then what would you do just like would you just like force yourself to stay in your room and do nothing so you don't alter any. Me? How comes here? No, fuck everybody else. I, I, I, I, I'm not at all.

No, I'm, I'm, I'm fixing every mistake I ever made. That would be the, the, the lemma, it's like, are you going in now obsessed with fixing everything that you've like, this could have been better. Even the, even the slightest thing could have been better. You're, that you can try to alter it. Well, you're gonna make different mistakes.

Basically, almost everybody ever dated, I'd be like, I already did it. So I wouldn't go back to do that. Right. So right away, your whole history, you're making new mistakes with new people. But you don't know everything, you know. You're still fucking dealing,

but you have all that wisdom and stuff like that. I don't know, the idea popped in my head the other day, and I know it's not an original idea, but I was like, wow, what would I do? Do I sit my parents down to be like, look, at five? I gotta fucking talk to you guys. Like I'm your son from the year 2023.

You'd be in a psychiatrist's office, right? I don't know. Could I be your parents would bring you, oh, but you're, you're gonna convince your parents in 1981 that you're Brian Quinn in his 40s. Can I do that? Can you pull it off? Can anybody do that? Nobody could pull it unless a chain of like like if I went back to like 95 2001 I'd be able to be like I could prove it to you because the fuck world's real mom dad the US hockey team is gonna be Russia

Yeah, you're like, but yeah, we know it's that's 1980. Yeah, sorry Yeah, we're like, yeah, we know it's that's 1980. Yeah, it's like 1981. Empire Strikes back is gonna do Mom Darth Vader's loose dad trust me on this one. Well, that would be Difficult. Yeah, there's some things you could pull off. Yeah, you know, especially like a young kid like with a spoiler like that Like before the movie even comes out. You would freak your parents out though. They would be terrified.

Yeah. Because they would be like, you have a brain tumor or something, obviously something is a miss. You're like a Damien type kid, you're some kind of spooky kid that I want to be around. I remember once I saw this guy throw an apple at my brother's head, my older brother's head. He was a guy he was friends with, but they had some sort of falling out, and we're in the playground, and this guy whipped an apple at my brother's head and hit his head.

And I'd always struck me as like, he's my older brother, I was so young at the time I couldn't do anything about it, but it's one of those things that sticks with me where I'm like, man, I'd love to fucking beat this shit out of that fucking kid for hitting my brother with an apple and I might go a little too much on it I might fucking just really lose it out of but if you relive that moment you're still in that little body though yeah but I have a confidence so see that kid's got a little body too you just have a confidence that you could that you could that you could that you could do it or just go ham like bring a knife to the playground that day

You like doing a fucking for another apple my brother. I'll fuck you cut your throat And that's what ham means heart is a motherfucker. Oh I'd never heard that before That's something you coined. No, no, that's a wrap. That's a wrap. Yeah, I'm going ham It's an old wrap. It's an old the wrap. What song was that from? I'm gonna see if I can look at you said on the kids day when you go home Like you don't want to see me go a fucking ham girl. I said get him go ham.

It's What do you mean? I said it's not I would that's when he's literally eating ham like a madman. Well, it's that ham is your bias CVS. There you go. Kanye Weston JZ the song's called ham. I'm about to go ham. Hard as a motherfucker. So I didn't make that up for sure. Yeah. So yeah, to ham.

But is life a little empty though because you know, you can't go see any movies because you know how they're going to turn out. Like, write the movies before they come out. Suddenly, oh, suddenly clerks is a brighter But yet like you like you said you can't go see Star Wars you can't go see return to the Jedi You know it's gonna what the outcome is. It's like is there a certain emptiness to this certain sadness Maybe I still maybe you know you can't the no new TV everybody's talking about fucking sopranos you're like yeah I know who killed J.R. before everybody else does yeah I still don't think that would be the focus of my

my first thing would be like I mean don't you gotta get because you don't know how long you're gonna be there but you gotta get that Google apple stock order in right like that's the first thing you gotta do. Yeah, you gotta figure out how to parlay that as a young boy. Yeah. Yeah, like, it would be tough to like convince your parents because you don't have any money as a kid.

Be like, just buy Walmart stock. I promise you, and then I like shop a little, Brian. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think if he has a string of fucking of hits, I guess, or the Amos like kids. Yeah, that they're going, I mean, I think if he has a string of fucking of hits and it's ridiculous like kids. Yeah, that they're going I would I would believe It wouldn't take much to convince me, you know like one of your daughters came up to yeah, like if she threw it throughout like five fucking drop down like fucking jaw dropping

Facts that actually came to pass. Yeah, she came at y'all him facts that actually came to pass. Yeah, she came at you all. I would be like, I would be, I would start investing too. But there again, there's like, you got to like, there's so much responsibility that you should be using for the greater good. What do you do about 9 11? Exactly. Yeah. What do you do? Do you just like sit back or do you try to become an agent for the government? Like you know, you become obsessed with like making sure you are employed in the FBI or the home home land security.

Well, you don't think it's not enough to just make like a bunch of anonymous phone calls that week. You know what I would do? Specific flights, the specific like that stuff. I would like people that I don't like. I would invite them to lunch at Windows in the world that day. So you just like, I'm fucking, but let me get this guy up. I don't think I want it. You wouldn't want it. I don't think I'd want it. Like I don't think I want it. I think there would be too much.

See your grandparents again. Yeah. Too much pressure. Too much pressure. But then you know when they're going to die too. Well, my grandparents smoked. Yeah, so they're fine. So maybe I'm maybe I'm extending their life by 15, 20 years by getting them to quit smoking. You think you could do it? I think I could do it. I feel like my 70s grandma would not listen to it. I'll see you later and as soon as you're out the door, she'll just fuck your leg. My grandma loves me. I think I'm smart. No, I don't have to convince the whole family that I'm from the future.

But then I would know that she didn't quit because she did die anyway. And so I would be like, well't quit because she did die anyway. And so I'd be like, well, who knows, different timeline, man, you don't know what's gonna happen. But I feel like eventually though, the weight of the world would become too much for somebody who knows as much as you would know though.

And you're in actions and the misery that you could stop would just become maddening. Yeah. You're seeing people like, oh my God, I forgot about this girl, like a kid napped. And then I found her, you know, cut up in a million pieces, I could have stopped that, you know, this story from like,

Oh, so it's like quantum leap almost, where you're like jumping in and like, you got a thick sense is. You would be like, how could you live with yourself, let's all your fucking fat money made by stealing from other artists and now that's one sin right there multiple since but now people are dying and from famous stories that are in the news and you could have stopped it. I don't know how but you would have to figure it out.

Well, like any serial killers that I remember I can send anonymous notes to the FBI. This is John Wayne Gacy. Eventually these anonymous things. I'm not coming back to me. I think you use all your powers just to rat on people. Oh, but think about the fun part of it. Like I can go see you guys working at the rec center. Shhh. You know what I mean? He has a child. Well, what year's did you work at the rec center?

Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you wouldn't be a child. Yeah, I'm growing. Well, it would have been like 80, when did you start? Because I started like 88. 86. You started 86. Okay, so I was 10, okay. Yeah, you wouldn't be a child. Yeah, I'm growing like well, it would have been like 80 when did you start? Because I started like 88 86 You started he's okay, so I was 10 11. Yeah, if by then I've convinced my parents that I'm from the future You have a chauffeur right, yeah, so then I could just come and like watch you guys do it and so I'd have to become friends with you guys Somehow, yeah, I'm not taking the same path on any would you trust us immediately of like I'm 19 He's 19 would you trust 19-year-old versions of us with your secret come in the bathroom with no?

Absolutely not I know I know I know I don't believe it I Have to find the way to make you guys my friends without the path that we took to get there Well, why wouldn't you divulge this information? We couldn't, we couldn't fuck it up for you. Because I know a wacky guy. I've known you for 30 years. I'm not a wacky guy.

Neither of you are gonna believe it. Ryan, I might get to believe it eventually. But I don't know, man. There were certain people, like, have a Benjamin cat. I got him from a bartender in a bar. I got to have to figure out how to get that again. The girl I was dating was working in the bar with him and that's how I got him. So I got to have to figure out how to get that again. The girl I was dating was working in the bar with him And that's how I got him so like I'd have to figure out another way to get him

Well, why don't why don't you just come 100% commit yourself to living the same exact life then? I don't think it's possible Trouble I don't want to You know what I mean? I don't want to a lot of things I've done. I don't want to do again Real estate, oh my gosh, cheap ass property that you know is going to be fucking huge. I've thought about like, even a shorter period of time, I'm like, if I could go back to 2010 and just do things differently for the last 13 years,

that would have been awesome. But then I'm like, if I did things differently then I wouldn't have ended up, like things would have been awesome. But then I'm like, if I did things differently, then I wouldn't have ended up like things would have changed. You know, who knows if I'd have sage every bath, you know, like tell them Steve Dave potley, just you don't know. So like, I guess I had to go through all that bullshit just to get where you kind of want to be. So you know, that you would take the opportunity to go back and and try a different path. No, I don't think so because it would be too, I think I think Walter, you would be too

overwhelmed with decisions on like with other people. You remember like that the Elizabeth smart girl, John Bane Ramsey. Yeah. Poly class. Yeah, all these like I would be like constantly being like, I got it. I got to get to got to stop before they get hurt. But what if you could stop it? Right, but then there's no time then, because then you fall into the trap, but like not the trap, but like you're, and it should be the way,

you're every waking moment is to help save somebody else's misery. Go ahead. God. Every waking moment is to is to help save somebody else's misery Rather to stay work I'm really sit home day after day watching cops Hope everybody I don't know man. It would be pretty fun man to see the world as he used to be. Yeah, that's the I know what watches a lot of shows from the 70s and I like watching like things like Rockford Files where like you see old LA, like LA in the early 70s. It's really cool. Like I recognize this area but it looks so different now you know.

They have these, there's a YouTube channel that takes all time your footage from like 1920s, 1910s. Yeah, yeah. And they, you know how they always walk like fast. Yeah, they're always looking at the camera. Yeah, they correct it so they're walking normally. And then they colorize it. And then they add ambient noise.

And it's like you're watching New York City in like 1920. And it's like crazy. And then what I'll do is I'll go, the pandemic was rough on all of us, all right? We had a lot of time to sit around. And I'll go to like Google Street map. If I don't recognize, you know, some places, you're like, Oh, fuck, I know that building. I've been in that building 100 years later, but I'll go on Google Maps and look at the buildings that they look like now. They're all, I mean, not that not all there, but like so much of it is still there.

Right. Yeah. Going back to your scenario, though, would you feel like you earned nothing? Like you never really had to earn anything. I don't know. I can feel that way now. You played the system. You played the system.

You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system.

You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. You played the system. They they suck me back. But like where are your achievements, your real achievement? I still achieved everything I achieved. It's just in a different timeline. Yeah, but in a way that with an unfair advantage over people, other people buying for the same things you want, but you get them because you have this incredible

role of decks of information that nobody else has access to. You earn nothing on your own. This is true, but these are the cars I was dealt. Roll a decks of information that nobody else has access to you Nothing on your own This is true, but these are the cars I was dealt like what am I supposed to do not achieve anything? I mean there's plenty of I still got to call the shock You can go like and emit yourself to like to what's that what's that hospital on that's that island where Haraldow will bust it into oh will a book and get some electric shock treatments to try to like remove the memories Mom dad, I'm gonna take my bike down to willow brook. I'll be back by the time the street lights go on I had that you try to remove the memories and you know kind of almost kind of like going to like a dull state

I just have the same shitty life. I mean, I'm sure lobotomies are really loud back then still I would have you really go for it No, like like even the playing field. That's the way BQ, but that's the way I thought BQ would want to roll I'm playing now. I grew up on an even playing field. I didn't you didn't know people people I was we were the have-notts growing up you know? But at the end of the day, I have not to, like, I lived in a fucking dirt chair. Yeah, but at the end of the day, you had just as much of a chance as anybody else to claw your way to the top.

But you don't think that you have to question why you were, why you were allowed to go back in time. Like, you don't think, like like there's a reason I did this and I just have to follow my own instincts and make use of this gift. I think to lobotomize yourself is to reject that gift. You know? How many sessions do you think you would take?

I don't know, I think about it. Well, lobotomy one session, ECT, you might have a couple. You end up looking like Jack Nichols. But you go to some way and be like, hey, Janet Jarrick, you should hire Joe to Rosa because you're gonna get the same product, except he's not. Yeah, I feel like after watching that documentary,

I feel like some way was told that a few times. Oh, really? It seemed like they had knowledge. It's a little blower's tone and they looked the other way. Yeah, there was a lady on there who was like, look, I was talking to him out of nowhere. He was just like, I really like teen girls. And it sort of, she sort of like thought it was a joke

and blow it off, but turned out like it wasn't so much a joke. And then they have tons of like, and it was like the guy who ran his foundation was also like a child porn guy. So he got busted first and that's when they started looking into Jared. Don't you think Subway kind of escaped it unscathed?

I think they did pretty well. Chipotle took more shit for given people, Sam Noah. Like I feel like they kind of got out of it as well as you could, I think like. Dancer the raindrops. Yeah, I feel like you feel like people weren't like, cancel Subway and like nobody really, that as far as I can recall,

didn't take them to task. And I don't know if then now, but finding out even though that they may have known, I still don't think that they're gonna pay up. I don't think so. I don't think so. Price, hefty price for there. I don't remember them talking about it at time.

Like I think they just wanted it to go away. Like he got busted. There was the news. They issued their statement. And I just don't remember them talking that much about it afterwards. You know, like he got, he went to trial, he went to jail and that was it.

How they gonna weigh with it? Well, I guess what are they, I mean, I didn't know they knew, if they knew, then that's fucked up. It seemed like some people may have known about his predilection. It's weird, a corporation is weird thing, because you can't blame the corporation.

The corporation has a piece of paper. And all those people that work there are probably not there anymore. So it's like, you can't even be like, I mean, I guess you can. I don't know, man. It's Jared put us all in a fucking pickle here, man. I don't know.

Even though he's paying protection money, he got his ass kicked in jail. Did he really? Yeah. There's a couple of years ago he got beaten up by some guy who was like, You still think he has millions left? Oh, yeah, I think he's paying people in jail.

You still think he's got enough left? Yeah. I think so. I don't think he'll come out of copper. See, I would think in jail if you once you pay once, like the price just goes up daily, and then. Oh, you mean to protect you, the price just goes up daily. Oh, you mean to protect you, otherwise they turn up. Yeah, I don't know.

Once you get that one payment, like, whoa, he did, he paid. That's the end of the fucking. Now, I'm gonna go, it's just, I'm just doubling it. Every time you pay, I'm doubling it, because I know you can pay. Mm-hmm. Right, so I would, I would, I would fuck that. But that, I mean, eventually it'll just get somebody

that'll be more reasonably priced. I mean, I'm sure you can shop around in jail. There's more than one guy willing to protect you. Although, that is like, like, I know they don't like chomalusters and rapists in jail, like they usually get a hard time, but if you're gonna protect one, like, what is that?

It's like, you get a pass for that. You know, like, hey, great question. I thought there were specific wings for creeps like that. Yeah, I think there are Like protective wings for guys like that, but still there's there's people that want it like if he goes I remember he was in the yard or something like somebody came up and punched him in the face like he was all bloody His glasses are all bloody fucking I I thought I remembered man, maybe it was a cop or Fuck man, it might have been my ex's brother was a prison, was a corrections officer. Somebody told me that like, that they have their own wing and it's the most well-behaved wing

because if you misbehaving that wing, you get sent to jail. You get the pocket in the jail. Everybody in that wing, one has long hair. That was when he told me, they all have long hair because they won't go to the barber shop because something will happen to him in the barber shop. Right, they're through a cutter, something. Yeah, so they're all the most well-behaved prisoners because they do not want to go to the Gen Pop as well.

I mean, I was told that in the late 90s, so, you know, who knows if that's still the case, or ever was. Makes sense. I almost knew it was, I don't know if I ever told you, I almost became a guard in a prison. Yes So you thought you'd do it second day? Well, I didn't see his cock but because I thought it was in the other dude's mouth Well, he's anyway like a towel on his head or something, right? Yeah, but again

I might have been I may have been creating Like in my mind a scenario to like panic me to say like like my mind may have been helping me Decide something that wasn't there there so I would run away. Okay, I'm not going out for that. Like I may have had like a like a like a some sort of like out of body something experience because I was such a I thought it was such a bad move on my part but I was trying to convince myself that this was a good move. This would be my career.

Yeah. Every fiber of my body was all free. And it's officer won't flattigate. You can't do this. Hey boss man. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this.

You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've done this. You should've don't take the cock, second boy. But I also don't.

I'm going him. I don't think it really was happening because there was more than a few people in the cell. They were behind bars. And I think that that would be frowned upon by the, like, they wouldn't want that to be shown to a civilian. Right. I think the other prisoner could also might be like, y'all guys.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he had, but what I recall, what I saw, and again, I may have been having some sort of delusional like, Sir, fantasy. Period. Not a fantasy. I'm a nightmare.

The thing nightmare. Can I work overtime? I start right now, right? I'm a guard now. I'm a cock in. I mean, cock in. I'm ready to start right now. I remember they walked me through and there was a whole bunch of people in that cell. It was a big cell.

And there was a guy sitting on the, on a, like a long, not a couch, but like a, like a long board against the wall with a, with a mat on it. Okay. Yeah. Normally referred to as benches. Yeah. Like a bench. He was sitting on it. And he was looking around like, like, you know, like a hitchhiker waiting for, or waiting for a bus or something. His head's on a swivel. There's another guy with his head in his lap. Right. Maybe he was consoling him.

And I don't know if he was laying there just taking a catch of a couple's ease or he was actually doing what I thought he was doing. But in my mind, I was like, oh my God! What's wrong with it? What type of room is it? It was a ward. It was like a cell and you could just smell like, you know what it smelled like.

A locker room on fucking steroids. Oh, gross. Yeah, and I was like, I'm gonna do this every day in my life. I'm gonna come in and I'm gonna have to be the guy that's like, hey, knock it off. See, I feel like what would be good as a corrections officer in his lunch is like the only thing probably would be he wouldn't, I don't think he would take shit from people. He wouldn't listen to sob stories. He wouldn't have any sympathy. Oh, come on, come on, boss. You know, my fucking lady didn't put any money on my books blah blah blah

Yeah, like I feel like he wouldn't have any sympathy for the Prisoner yeah, I don't think he would be on necessarily cruel to them at the same time. No, no I think I would do the least amount as possible To not have contact to not have to do my job It's just try to like not get fired with doing the least possible interaction. You've just described every job I've ever had.

I told you kick that shit up in the high gear when I was gone. That's not what I was told. Just spin. It's a spin zone. Yeah, I remember coming home with that story. Because, you know, Deb really was like, he needed to get a real job, and she was just, you're just making up because you don't want to go back. And I'm like, I don't think I am.

I don't think I am. I really think I saw that. She guess I would not be happening. And I was just like, I think it does happen. I think it happens a lot. Respect to Deb, how would she know? Yeah, right. I was just she know about the male prison population.

No, no, no, no. They're getting active. It's acceptable, and that's not, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to put a stop to it right here and draw the line at your expertise on men's prison populations. But it's very possible that I concocted it all in an effort to just give myself trauma to not take that job. Yeah, you made the right choice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I thought it down.

You would add some great stories though. Yeah, but at what cost? You know maybe get some Being thrown all over you Rainbow bomb Yeah, they have a certain name and you get Gast yeah Yeah, guess bomb, yeah, you're right. Yeah.

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Yeah, he's got stones in the places where... stuck where you don't want them. Like where I had to go. Right. Oh, man. Like nobody knows the trouble me and Victor have seen or felt. Yeah, really.

I doctor saw the trouble. The, you know, Victor told me, you know, he got out and he went and he did a, a broside with us recently and he was telling me about his experience. That he tell me about the medication they gave him. And I was shocked that they're basically given him like Adville for like what seems to be extreme pain because I've heard you guys are pretty bad.

Now I don't want to paint a picture that I'm feeling the same pain that Victor felt because when I went to the emergency room I thought I had stones and the orderly laughed at me. It was like if you had stones you wouldn't even be able to stand up or you know they giggled when I said I might have a kidney stone because I don't know. You don't have a kidney stone. You got no respect to hospitals. Do you? No. You got yelled at? You got laughed at. Which to me, you said a lot though, like if that orderly is saying, you know, like, you

had kidney stone, you wouldn't even be able to even talk. It would be that painful. It would be. But he's got them in his Eurethane and Some other thing that begins with you are so there's two areas, but I think they both are Very close proximity to the peepy hole right damn I don't think you can laser blast them

So you got to like they got to open up and take them out He said that he's done. He is done with dark soda. Dark soda? And salty foods. He said that's the culprit. So that's what's doing it, Tom. Yeah. But poor, it less but a shout out to Victor. And hopefully he recovers and rebounds. Yeah, really. And men's on the quick. out to Victor and hopefully he recovers and rebounds. Yeah really. And men's on the quick. It's not good, cute, too, when you can't use your or your God-given abilities to its their fullest use. Now women get them too, kidney stones. Oh yeah, my wife had them. And I know I know one woman who gave birth and had kidney stones instead of kidney stones worse. Yeah, my wife got them one time and I remember being terrified because she's not

one to to go into bed and lay down like I think she can get a leg taken off. And she'd be up cleaning and an hour. Like I never see her slow down and yeah, and she was on her back with kidney stones crying. Oh, that's scary. Yeah. I think Mary Beth might have kidney stones, because she hasn't been up and cleaning quite some time. I wonder if Deb might come over and visit.

Off the check see if her legs missing. Nope, you still got two of them, huh? I don't know why this kitchen so messy then. Oh, it's crumb. Yeah. What that stick back for what? To not vacuum. Okay. Turn the robot. Sleeping. All right, honey. I believe Okay, how are you? Speaking of Victor, I know he uses American musical supply. when we were talking about that fencing. You just wait till I would have to say about American music supply. We got gear for podcasters guitarist drummers vocalist DJs all recording home recording

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The landscape has changed since when we started tell them Steve Dave right the podcast I remember trying to explain to people what a podcast was. It's a radio show in the internet. So I was like I don't get it. Why would people listen? I had no answer from that. I don't know, but he is too podcasting. Is there too much competition and has the podcasting game? As some have I have posted. I've seen that, you know, it's we're kind of been left behind in the I have posted, I've seen that, you know, it's, we're kind of been left behind in the, in the podcasting world, we're not as innovative, I've seen people say, and they think we need to add more guests, that that's the key to... Well, we've got a card, we've got a card of coming up. I'm having a get your own arose, that a coming true, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

I'm having a get your own arose that come in to the road yeah Casts I just want to ask someone wrote that like they want to be an interview So they said that like the the this podcast needs something after all these years Maybe they should think about get booking guests I'm curious what the what the listenership thinks is I've always saw a pushback to that I remember I I thought that one time I said maybe we should see if we get somebody to book guests and I got a lot of emails saying no what I love about TSD is it's just you guys it's not guests. I love. But yeah, some people are saying you know maybe to inject little energy into a 18 year old spot. I don't know yet right?

We started two thousand or ten. 13 years. 13 year old pond. Oh, no, yeah, right. We started two thousand, ten to thirteen. 13 year old pond. I could you want me to try and get the rose in here? Sure. All right. He'll be our first. He'll be the news. Tell him to see these first guests.

I'm not telling Mary both. Oh, yeah. Should we down here? I'll fucking gussied up. But we could hire him. I'm not a crumb to be seen. No. She'll back him here.

She'll back him around. Joe's seat and shit But we could look into getting like acquiring and paying somebody to Get guests for us. We could I mean look I I I have you know, especially in this last year met a lot of high-profile people Just through the show and and through like going around and stuff like that. But I try not to talk about that stuff because every time I do people like you just start fucker.

I'm like I have great stories. I've got fucking stories that I can't tell because the audience doesn't want to hear them but I got fucking awesome stories but nobody wants to hear them because the other person involved is famous. I don't tell them. Well usually the stories are just like how you get up on stage. Now with Brett Michaels, sing fucking, you know, talk dirty to me. And nobody can read it.

Want to hear how I'm living all your dreams? Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I thought that I don't get it. I get it. So I don't talk about it. But I would love to have at our just suppose will somebody like me like, Hey, you know what I would like to talk to who's died and It has written a book about going to heaven and coming back. Okay. All right. I wanted that's the kind of that's

That's what I would like to have that's better along with like, you know, I would love rock stars too Yeah, that's Rob Zombie that would be awesome. No, I think you're right I think you I think you just put a spot on down Rob. Don't you remember? We never turned down Rob Zombie. We did when Mary Elizabeth, she said that she could have gotten Rob Zombie and I was, and I remember not wanting to have a mom because I'm like, I don't wanna have to sit here and pretend I think Sherry Moon Zombie is awesome.

Right. Well, why couldn't you just not bring up her wife's name? I don't know. It'd just be like, I love this part of your catalog. And I love this and this and this. And usually you don't bring up what you don't like. Put them on a spot. Yeah, I don't really care for his movies either.

So it's like only his music, I guess we would talk to him. Well, you don't have to talk to him about his music. I love his pop culture. Yeah, it's our most stuff. Yeah, that's true. I love his hishtick. Yeah, his monster'shtick. Well, his sock'shtick.

Yeah. Say that fucking three times. Socks monster shdick. Oh, his shock shdick. Yeah, say that. Fucking three times. Socks, it's not so well. Okay. He's a natural. I have some minor issue with our with our listeners with the hand with the thumb specific hands. I know. I saw that. What the fuck? They went on Twitter and they start telling Kevin. Oh, the secret. Yeah, I didn't get that either. Like it's not even it's just no fun in that direction. No. Like the fun is watching me squirm.

Even I know that. Not blasting it out. I'm gonna go on the assumption that they didn't listen to the episode where you asked not to tell, and they kind of gave it away without knowing. What they got to be include. Oh, come on. What do you think about this?

Oh, yeah. I just like to. include. Oh, come on. What do you think about this? Oh, yeah. It's just like, I never, this is the handheld man. You keep things fucking insulated. Dude, like it's so much funnier to watch me squirm on that Q and A when Kevin finds out for the first time. And now it's, it's how, you're just like, what the fuck? Like why don't you do that?

I couldn't stand the listeners, like back when I was working for a Kev who would, because I knew they would do it. If like you said anything a little bit out of the box, they would be in media book, who are the kids? Would you hear what your fucking employee said about this? Oh, that would happen, yeah. I would always see that.

Little fucking tattletail bitches. Don't you guys understand? Not always. Not obviously not all, yeah. Not even the, not even most here, but like, don't you understand that like, like we can't we then can't say those things If you go blabbered and which means you're just cutting off good content. We are talking about fencing. I know Let us go let us see how much trouble we get into I got a fence guy coming next week to talk about it

episode. Yeah. In depth. Are you with Mark versus? Is it the owner of a fencing company or is it somebody who just works for a fencing company? I want to talk to somebody who owns. I want to see what kind of profit margins there are in fucking in being in the fencing business. I know somebody who who had a very close friend in the fencing business who got out of it because the margins were so slim they said that they just could not make it yeah like a like a like a known fencing company in the area they were just like after 20 years or something they're like fuck it man I can't make any money

so I think that I think it might be that the materials are just so expensive not that labor is cheap wow I would have thought the opposite yeah I would have thought so too. Yeah, we'll get that guy on. Yeah, so much excited. And fucking letting potentially dangerous and no gets slipped,

because he fucking melts shit. Oh, man, like, yeah. Yeah, and I looked at the Twitter account of the guy who said it to Kevin, and he's clearly a fan. Like, he's got, he's got it in his bio. He's got a picture of him with the forecode. He was air on the side of caution.

He probably hadn't listened to the episode where you made the plea. If you listened to the Patreon episode, you tell me he didn't listen to the episode the next. No, the episode where you went on, he must've listened to the Patreon episode, but I'm gonna air on the side that he probably didn't realize you had put out a request

to keep, you know, keep it in house. Yeah. That's how I would, I don't wanna believe didn't realize you had put out a request to keep, you know, keep it in house. That's how I would, I don't want to believe that there's a spiteful answer out there. Oh, you know, I don't want to live. I don't want to believe that. Nobody wants to believe it, but we know. But just to prove you can't please everyone all the time, like Marybeth has been going through all the old episodes, what we used to be on the smartphone network and cutting out like that 10 minutes of smart co-bull shit, you know, like, yeah, they didn't like it. Some people complain, they're like, wait, you're taking all that out, I like listening

to that stuff. It reminds me of back in the day. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? These are shows that don't exist anymore. These are dates for Kevin that he did fucking eight years ago. Why the fuck would you want to listen to that shit? I have tried to stop trying to, like, I told Gidom that I wanted to be the NASA of podcasting where I want 100% approval.

Like, you know, NASA doesn't fucking go with like, oh, it's 99% good enough. We'll fucking let that rocket go up and get them to, you know, savvy down is like, you're never going to be able to do it. You say you're never going to be able to please 100% of the audience. And I was like, does I mean I have to stop trying? No? Well, you can't chase it either. I think what I think what's worked for us is a general sort of indifference towards what the audience wants and we just do what we want to do. Sometimes they have great ideas, great ideas.

But sometimes I have listened though. Well, when you talked about God too much and people got all worked up about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not believing for any form. Like I saw some post it was like I can't stand walk because he reminds me both of a Christian and a Jew. The way he used to like like just constantly do ads for the stash. Just you know like he reminds me of the worst of both aspects. How is that either Christian or Jewish?

I have no, that's what he wrote though. That's what he wrote. I mean, it was your job we were recording in the stash. Right? And a lot to fuck you. Hey, I, you know, like, get him said, you know, you're never going to please 100% of all the people all the time. And I bet some of the people complaining don't, they just want to complain, they don't even feel.

They don't even believe what they're saying, they're just trying to fucking stir you up. Probably. Yeah. I never understood that aspect though. Let me grind half. Yeah. I got a story. Oh.

Yeah, it's a sad one though. Because I never would have thunk this. So at other day and I made my heart sink believe it or not Tom Brady's 13 year old son faces bullying in his life. I Believe it. Yeah, that doesn't seem that hard to believe Considering they probably send him to a private school. I think anything that makes you different as a kid makes you Opening open up for it. So it's but like you your parent are that famous and that rich and But you're in a private school probably with just as rich maybe not as much as famous as yeah, but probably with the same amount of Bank that if you're going to the same private school though. I just wish shot. Like, I'm a surgeon like what on earth would the kids be bullying him about?

Oh, your dad won't seven super balls. Oh, your dad's a goat. Your dad's a good kisser. Oh, fuck. There you go. It would be that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And if everybody at this table wouldn't fucking have love for their father to give him that kind of like fucking attention No, so he wouldn't be still fucked up now. If my father came at me that close at that age I would have been terrified Like maybe when I was younger. Yeah, I mean, like any doing old man. I would think he was falling or something Yeah, like All my issues about not feeling that I like why I don't talk to people is because I don't feel like I Have anything worthy to say to anybody all comes because my dad wouldn't kiss me

Okay I don't think the because you didn't kiss you maybe because of like I'm talking about the old what kissing just doesn't mean you know like you know like the the the affection Yeah, it means the affection and it means the The supporting and the telling them that they do have Something interesting to say or they're or were the of somebody else's attention. Yeah, I I feel like that I'm all really fucked up because I didn't get kissed You have to be You're asking kids to understand that as opposed to be like,

it's not kisses them, it's way easier to fucking to get on. You gave her your dad. I was like, I've read stories in the past weeks like there was a 12 year old girl who hanged herself because she kept getting bullied at school. It's like those stories are all over the place. I don't particularly feel for the fucking rich rich.

Why not? How do you know he hasn't been close to doing something to- I don't know that. I'm saying I feel like- I feel work for the kids who have done it. Yeah, but like let's put him in the same fucking boat. Because he's Tom Brady's son does, I mean, he doesn't feel just as much hurt as a normal,

quote unquote, normal kid. He as a normal quote unquote normal. He's a normal. You're right. He probably does. I'm just saying I feel worse for the people who've been bullied into suicide. Then I mean, look, we all got bullied as kids. We all did. Yeah, this is part of it.

Yeah. So I don't know. I didn't do any bullying. I just, I think it pulled that off. But like it happened, but I never really did it. I Just feel like you could shut down the bully so quick. How do you just be like dad come in the class and show off your fucking Seven massive super bowl rings to shut these fucking twats up What do you think the kids are gonna see the subo rings and be like I guess I guess I was wrong Yeah, I got a poem. Yeah, that's a poem. I don't know

That is a major place for the Walt Flanagan's Yeah, but if it's like I'm in that class, I'm like I don't give a fuck about Yeah, try to in the fucking super hot mom then I don't I don't have a do come to that realization about yourself That what that you feel your confidence has been So affected by the weak relationship with your father. Oh, probably There was there was an episode came from a episode of Tom Steve Dave really yeah you guys like kept saying Oh, I love you. I love you. I love you and it like really fuck me up really fuck me up. For like a week.

Because I felt really like off and weird. And I was like, why do I feel weird about that? And I like over like a couple weeks of not feeling good. I was like, it has to be because it's so unnatural for me to feel for a male to say that they love me. Wow. And it's so like foreign and it's made, it brings like weird, like just send signals,

like you know in my head that like, I don't wanna hear it, I don't want to accept it, I don't want to like deal with it. And it has to be, I thought from. Wow. A lot of of my childhood just like only being, getting affection from my mom. It's got trauma this guy.

Yeah, there it goes. Here it goes. Yeah, I'm fucking, just as much as Baskas Kate as you guys are. Yeah, you don't say. No, I'm not enjoying the club. Nobody say this on Twitter, it's a big secret. But I do feel like it has still a lot to do with like, like, you know, Michelle would tell me too.

He would always be like, you know, the guys came down from AMC, the producers. And they want, they mentioned like, hey, have I done something to offend Walt? Like I go over and he's real standoff. He's real. He's a real cold fish. And I told the show, it's not because I'm like, I'm not a prick. I go, it's just like they intimidate me and I don't feel I have anything worthy to say to somebody in that stature. They're on a level above me because of how I was brought up in terms of not, I never felt I was, I had anything interesting to say to anybody

Why I steep any Desired to work on that you're like I fucking oh, well, I think I have worked on it. Yeah, yeah, I love you You I I Truly am touched by your That's how you want me to say that to you guys. I was like, you just want to thank you. All right. I truly am touched by your proclamation of affection. And it aches me feel good to hear you say that.

Has that sound? Pretty like AI almost. And another thing, you're a good friend. Tell them, Steve Dave.