Tell Em Steve-Dave - #558: Bonnet Headz

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

TESD welcomes a very special guest. Bry is EXCITED! https://ter.li/AmericanMusicalSupply-TESD

You called the homicide detective to help you put together furniture. You got a fucking office coach. I got a mule out there. Tell him Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave. It's me, Brian with Walt. Hello. And with Mary Beth. Hello. He's here because we have a special. Hello. And with Mary Beth. Hello.

Who's here because we have a special guest today. That special guest is not BQ. Walt, I'm nearly certain that to the joker, sold their souls to the developer's success. And the payoff is they have to get, they have to get, and I'll see, just left room for some reason. They're going to get COVID every three to four months. For life. I mean, that's a steep price of mine. get it and see just look around for some reason. They're going to get COVID every three to four months.

I mean, that's a steep price to pay. Yeah, I know, but they're power hungry. They're famed hungry. These guys, you don't know. Poor queue. I mean, I feel bad. Well, that's, that's one of the pitfalls of, you know, touring and coming into contact with a lot of strangers, shut down the dials, and I continue with basis, you are putting yourself at risk more so than like the average person. Like maybe it doesn't even sound so much like where you come here. Yeah, I go out, but you know,

I'm not like, when I greet people, you know, like he's got a greet people and he's got it, like it's a big difference, yeah. All right, well, our special guest, we don't want to leave her waiting. We've already gone through some tech issues, shockingly. Our tech issues prevent us from starting right away, but here we go. Everyone, I am super excited to introduce Alison Arngrim. We've got Gregorab.

There she is. There she is. Oh, my God. Hello. No. This is Nelly from Little House on the Prairie Wall. Yes. I'm very much aware. And when I told you that Well, when our guest booker got you're actually the first guest. He's gotten our other guest was a friend of ours. We already knew I think he tried to get both arms strong. He tried to get Tom Brady, he tried to, oh, Elon Musk, he failed on all fronts. I didn't care because he got you. That's a big way better. Oh, thank you, thank you.

Yeah. So, so this is a comedy podcast, you can say whatever you feel like, it doesn't matter to us, you're, you're all good on your end. Um I'm trying to think of this is real now. It's really so real. I'm like I'm not really in France. I I'm pretending to be in France today. I just felt like it I will be in France in October, but I thought that's I'll just don't I want to put up that for a minute because I there was something about your your one-woman show. So be in France in October, but I thought, but I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just,

I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just,

I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just,

I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, 81 and then I went back for an episode and 83. That's crazy. Now Walt is not really that schooled in a little house in the prayer room. He was more of like a Colombo guy. He was more of what we're saying about the fantasy island love boat, which you were on both of them.

I bet I was on both fantasy and love boat. And my mother had a guest star role on that new, the new Colombo, that later series they did. Now, what was your love interest on the love boat? I did not have one. It sucks so bad. I didn't get to go out on the boat either.

They took the boat out like twice a year, Charo. Charo always got to go. Very jealous. But I had to be in the studio and pretend to be in a boat. I did not because I played evil child star Becky Daniels who's come to film the Becky Daniels. I'm worried to her. As she's a fan and then little Jill Whale and the captain's to be daughter, I make her my stand and torture her and dump water and her head with eyes and stuff.

Nancy Colt from the Beverly Hill Billets played my aunt Gert. I love our so much. So that was really cool. It was really fun, but I played an evil child star. I did not, which is a drag because you know who's on the show? That same episode was the big tall blonde guy. He was in the original one that the brides had revisited the series British actor,

guy named Anthony Andrews, big tall blonde thing. So cute, had such a crush, but I was dressed like a 13, 14-year-old child star. So he didn't know I was over 18. And I was like, what? I was like, it's a gal, and I'm like, it's a gal. So yeah, I had no love interest,

nor was I successfully able to hit on the handsome male actor on the show. That's enough for me. That's enough for me. Yeah, I have tons of stuff like I was a hooker on fantasy island. Is that help? I don't know. I was a hard find is like about human trafficking. I said, um, Jan Brady Eveplum, she goes to fantasy. She's the one who goes to the island

and she was pregnant with some mysterious television disease where she's not going to live to see the baby grow up and they never quite explain how this is working, but there we are. And so, Rachadomantumam takes Jan Brady into the future to see her child grow up. And clearly, there's issues that she's like running away and stuff. And then they get to where she's like 18. I'm on the corner. I am on the corner in bad spandex being beaten by my pimps. And she does this quantum leap

thing to save me jumps into the fantasy. Even the record of monobonus said, you can't do that. You must never do that. She jumps into the thing. And so she sneaks into the brawl to rescue me, but not before I get auctioned. Auctioned. A live human auctioned off to a guy named Lucky Eddie for $5,000. And then the place gets rated and I get saved. Where was the island at? Like when you fell to what island, Leon? It's no island.

It's not real. It was a television show. It's no island. With astro turf and pretend bond trees and some lovely girls some models in little serongs hanging out. That's kind of it. Let me say be the embarrassment wall. It was a wig girls Let me say be the embarrassment wall. It was a wig, her curls and little else. Also been town the town a little house the Walnut Grove also not real. There is a real real real actual real Walnut Grove Minnesota Minnesota lovely place tiny little place has a lower Ingalls Wilder Museum lovely should visit. It's great However, we didn't fill there. We made a fake town over in Gorgeous, Seamy Valley, California. Gorgeous, way too hot, but gorgeous. And Big Sky Ranch, and we did a big fake town there, where we filmed the show and pretended we were in Minnesota, even though it didn't look like

Minnesota. But that's where he did it, and it's not there anymore. I mean, the ranch is, but the villings aren't. So yes, when people say I want to visit to all the Grove, you cannot. Yeah, they did. Do you love, do you love Burst and the Reppel? Does that little bit of meli come out? So you're like, that's terrible. I know, I'm just the worst, like, it's not real. It's not real.

But. That is like, okay, so. Got this red, awesome book. I can't recommend it enough. If you're, again, I apologize for red awesome book. I can't recommend it enough. If you're, again, I apologize for my friend Walt. He's not upon it. He had like my wife and I. But if you're at all into little house,

it's a great book. I get a lot of stuff about your upbringing that was incredibly interesting. Yeah, I had a heck of a time writing it. I thought, well, you know, it's like throwing everything in the kitchen sink. Yeah, confessions of a very bitch, how I survived to being Nellie Elson and to love being hated, etc.

Yeah, I, you know, I had been talking about stuff in my life in my one woman show and telling more and more stories and with my work with Fr. Tech talking more about my childhood and difficult times. And as you know you know in the book during the time I was right a lot of people were dying. I lost my mom in 2001 and then my father in 2009 right before the book came out and all this stuff is going on. I thought well I guess this is all going is just all going. But I also talk a lot about seriously the day to day, minute to minute what it was like on the set to actually make this show, which people do, they find fascinated, people are

fascinated by little house 50 freaking there's later, but they want to know they go, how did they do that? Why is there snow? I know there's no snow, you're in Calvary. How, what, you were in the, did you actually nearly drown in a river? How did you do that without drowning? And so. And so, yes, I, I go into detail on all that stuff. And this, this show is, you do it throughout America. And you said earlier, because you're like, you

have a full tower there, you also do it all in French. Yeah, yeah, I started doing, you know, my show could call way back in 2002. I started doing a show where I told all two stories, I've been doing stand-ups since I was like 15 back. In 2002, I started doing a show where I'd tell all two stories. I'd been doing stand-ups since I was like 15. And then I started off a one-woman show where I tell all two stories. We have a question and answer segment which people love. I have actually of cards that say, ask Allison anything.

And so I started doing that very successful. And then I was doing it everywhere. And then I went to France and they were like, you know, we could kind of do this. And I'm like, I would have to learn to speak French. I have high school French. It's not that good. And they're like, well, you could go back to school. And I went back to school and this guy wrote this adaptation.

This guy, Patri, can France with adaptation of my American show, but in French like this joke, it makes no sense in French. We take this one out, we put another in. And so made up this, it was brilliant. And I did that. And then we had a new show called Malo Trezord, the Nellie Olsen, which is Nellie Olsen's trunk of treasures. That was really silly. And we have a new show, but on Flam, it was a Nellie Olsen, Alume Lézane is Katre van, but now it's actually Nellie Olsen on Flam, Lézane is Katre van and Nellie Olson sets fire to the 1980s. It's really fun. It's got like nostalgia stuff. It's got game show parodies, stuff about 80s music, 80s culture in France,

80s TV in America versus 80s TV in France and all kinds of crazy stories. And yes, it's all in French, which I speak much better than I did when I started. But yes, I do a whole comedy show in French. What's next crazy? It's not. I did it when we were in France. I did. Now Walt, if you want to watch Walt perk up, we're going to talk about your parents. Now for Dad's name is Thor. Now Walt's super into comics. Named after the Nor Norse god Nor after actually is full name a tour hudler a Marvin Arngramson and as he said When I said god last name of Arngramson's is really hard. I might that my last name is Arngram He said think yourself lucky if you're a proper Icelandic girl. You're in a full name would be tour hudler daughter The D.O.T.D.I.R So yeah, so a

the D-O-T-D-I-R. So yeah, so a raise by an Icelandic farm family, named Thor and or Thor Huddler, which is Thunder Bearer, Thor Gotter Thunder, Thor Huddler, he who brings the thunder, Alabama. And my mother was the actress Norma Macmillan, who was the voice of Casper the Friendly Ghost, Gumby, Sweet Polly Purebred Underdogs girlfriend, as in, where are we? Where is my underdog? Yes, that's her. And yes, Davy of Davy and Goliath. That's my mom.

Wow. Wow. He's gone nuts. He's gone. And it's really weird too, because if you watch all those cartoons and stuff, you know, and then the claymation, that there's only like two people doing, doing everything. So, you know, Davy, Davy's mom, my mother's doing Davy's mom, Davy's mom's voice, she's Davy's mom,

she's Davy, she's all of Davy's friends, she's Davy's sister, and then the guy is Goliath the dog, but he's also the preacher, Davy's dad, the fireman, the policeman, that's it. So when Dady has a party and his mom and his sister there and four of his friends, it's my mother having a seven-way conversation by herself. What is it? But Anna's.

Her dad also managed a Liberace. Wow. I think you can cover it with Liberace. It's like father working. Work It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time.

It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time.

It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. for Liberace, like I don't know, in case he needed something, but someone to come shine

his diamonds. And so we go to his shows and it was kind of hilarious because I ate, but I'm a Hollywood kid. My parents say now we're going to go see Liberace, but don't say anything. You have to be in your best behavior. Don't say anything because no one must know that Liberace is gay. I'm so as much as I'm eight, I know he's gay. He just flew over the stage. He's like wearing rhinos and pants. I think I think people know I think his fans know I think they really know. Maybe I was like, no, no, they don't know. I'm like, oh, I think they know. And he was brilliant. He was absolutely brilliant. He was like just like the gay Elvis guy was a genius. And all his shows all sold out. He gave us a phrase that is still in a language.

A critic said that Liberace show was dumb, that it was like just saccharine and silly in these ridiculous songs and all this, and just pan him said he was awful. And of course his entire tour was sold out. You couldn't get a ticket. He was making so much money. And he said about the review, we name right the review. I cry all the way to the bank. I cried all the way to the bank that we say this. That is from Liberace. He made that's why we say that. It's his and he was a riot. And his fans think they sort of knew but like they didn't care. He's old ladies and they were like, oh, yes, he's that way. You know,

so your father managed him? Yes, he worked. He was vice president of Western Regional, something under Seymour. Hello, if you saw the movie, that whole thing about Liberace, that movie they did. And Seymour was played by Dan Acroix. And my god, he did a good job. When Dan Acroix came and sat down, the couch went, boom, if I went, it's like, ah, because I'd seen that in my living room. My dad's boss would come over for dinner. That was, that was, I know that guy. So yes, my dad had to, you know, make sure, all his L.A. shows, check in, make sure everything was being done correctly in the head. You know,

I don't know. I don't know if he's like the Brown M&M's backstage, what kind of writer he had, but like, make sure it was all correct. If he called instead of having a meeting at my house, can you come over some agents here and I don't trust them. I want one of my team here, my father getting the guard over on court. It was apps. I heard that. Your dad seemed like a wild guy. He was a true one. I told him he was already, you know, sick as I was getting into, you know, finishing up the book. And he's saying, you know, I'd given him a couple sample chapters. He was really excited. He was like, oh, it's like that. I'm like,

oh, this is great. And I said, now you understand. I said, I'm laying it all up. You're not getting father of the year, probably from this book. And he said, yeah, I lost that contest a long time ago. I'm pretty clear on that. I said, okay. And I said, but you know, and I start telling some of the stories he goes, wait, I'm a rogue. I'm like a lovable rogue. I said, yes.

I said, basically, it can tell you is if they made the movie every actor and Hollywood would beat each other up on the studio steps to play you. And he's like, yes, yeah. And then of course, you know, you read the book, he dies, you know, my father died of Parkinson's complications in 2009. And the editor said, I know you got to do the like the epilogue thing. Can you talk about that? I know it's terrible. But she said everybody at Harper Collins, the publisher's wants to know what happens to the crazy dad. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. But my father was an actor. He was an actor and a producer.

He was an actor on Broadway and he was a producer. So I reconciled myself to it that he got the finale and he got a death scene and he would have wanted that. It's like so twisted. But yes, I have a chapter all about him called the publicity seeking missile. Yeah, he stuck into that party, or I guess Michael Landon was like,

what the hell are you doing here? We said, yes, the big NBC, Huha kickoff celebrity party, like Golden Globes people, like all the foreign press association Goldbugs like it's heavy duty party. And onlybes people like they'd like all the foreign press associate Goldbugs like Evie duty party and only certain people were invited like the Walton's remember none of those people were famous that Mike Michael learned a incredible woman she wasn't famous yet and

will gear was famous none of those kids nobody knew who they would nobody knew who Richard Thomas was yet will gear was invited from the Walton's because they knew who he was. You know it. And the same thing, Michael, come up an answer. Michael was invited. But nobody else who would have lost in the break, they weren't famous yet. Nobody really knew anyone was. But my dad had a friend who is in the foreign press, Jean Lorraine, this guy at a Montreal and he's like, Hey, you don't want to go to this is birthday. He knew he's like, I can totally get you in. I can totally get you should get it. You've got to get, go, you should go. Just go, I will get you in.

Don't ask any questions to say, I get when you come up, you have my past, you say, yes, he lets that I can come. And you get dressed up and you walk in and just do it. And you will be photographed with, and it was all the people, their Barbara Egan was there, Karen Valentine, all the big stars of that year. But it shows on, you said, you will be photographed with all of these people and with Michael, and nobody else, nobody else, who will have some very, will be there.

They just won't. And my father's like, we're going. I got a new dress and everything. And it was amazing. And there is this picture, I'm with Michael, and he's grinning, but he also has eyes so like, are all the jigs, why'd you get in here? How did you get in here? I was going, it's just like, okay, you people.

So yeah, it was hilarious, right? My father would go under the door over the trans and whatever to, to like get that publicity, get that dollar, yeah. That's, he might have been the hardest working down in Hollywood at the time. I mean mean it seemed like it was a lot. So you're like really like with all the transgender stuff today you are on the ground floor. What could you are friends with Christine Jorgensen? Christine Jorgensen back when I mean mean, what did we even call it?

There was a time where there was no name for this. It was, I mean, there's always been people who were trans, there's people who are medically what they even call intersects, which is a whole other thing. I mean, there's several three times. People just don't even realize the things that do go on biologically, as well as psychologically for people. And there was this Christine Jorgensen.

And Christine Jorgensen was famous and did talk about her previous life because she was, she wasn't planning on the fame thing, but she kind of got caught at the airport to have a thing with the Ferrati. Somebody leaked the story and she'd gone all the way to Denmark because that's what you had to do then, and like, though to Denmark.

And her family supported her. Her family when she was George said, yeah, you need to do this. You need to do this. In fact, you should probably go see this guy in Denmark, really, seriously. And she did. And so she comes back and then it just hits the fan.

And suddenly she's famous and her family, they kind of, they circled the wagons and said, okay, what are we gonna do? How are we gonna do this approach this and stuck by her? But years later, Christine has adjusted to life. And she's like written a book. And she's got a cabaret act and everything. And she's doing, so her publicist is my mother's publicist. So yeah, Liberace's manager is Nile Olson's manager, Christine Jorgensen's publicist is cast for the friendly ghosts publicist. So, Hollywood works.

And so we meet her and she comes over to that and she is the nicest person you've ever could want to meet. And I really liked her because you know how some adults, if you're really little kid and like you look young for your age, they really talk down to you. They're like, and it's really annoying when you're a kid especially. And then there's the other adults who are like, so, you know, what do you do? Do you like school?

Do you hate school? Hey, I don't know. What are your favorite shows? You need a good movies. And they talk to you like a normal person. This was Christine. And I called her Auntie Christine. And she was really nice.

And that's the things my parents said. Well, kind of like six, seven years old. We kind of have to tell you who Auntie Christine is. She's famous. I like, cool. I mean, a lot of our friends were famous. Everybody we can see. And then they said, how I we don't know how to explain is because we didn't have the language. It's the 60s. They didn't have. I mean, people didn't say non-binary or transgender. This is like, we know people know what to even call each other it was

craziness and they said well Antichristine technically how do we say it used to be a man anyway of course I thought this was brilliant I thought this was amazing that a person could do this I'm like what you can do that they could do that that like science is on the march that's a fantastic news. Why is no end only? You're like, well, I really admired her. I was like, wow, that's great. And then I was like, sort of embarrassed like, do I say anything? I'm sort of staring at her because I'm like, but no, she was a fabulous and gracious and lovely woman. And it was interesting because as seemingly very, very adult concept, my parents tried to break it down, forgot, I'm like, so it's an operation, they go,

yeah, it's really complicated. And a couple of operations, I'm like, but like, I could become a guy if that was a thing, like I said, I had, and they were like, technically, but I gel. And the idea that that was that put out, obviously, I stuck with this. I am a defender, I am a team, I did like fine.

But the idea that that idea was put out there and I went there really are these, this is a thing. There are some people that this is their life. And I knew this is a young kid. I knew there were some people were gay and some people were less than some, some people were trans. I only knew Andy Christine was, but it was a thing. So later in life, as all of these things became huge issues that were discussed every day in the news and they made TV shows and movies about

I was like, well, yeah, well, yeah, what? Where have you been? I thought that was really interesting. There's some stuff you say in the book too that I'm like, I'm glad that she said it because it makes the rest of the book credible. Like when you're like, Lissa Sue Anderson, kind of a bitch, Carrie, kind of swell. It's the stage mothers, it's the moms, it's the moms, it's always the crazy parents.

And you know, you take a bunch of like twin girls, me and Melissa, Melissa, we're like, what, you know, 12 and 11 and 10. Oh, good Lord. And shove us all in a sound stage for seven years. And the pressure of being a child actor in the amount of work involved, and if you have a highly competitive cookie stage parent, some of these child actors and these parents, it's like a dog fights. These people just taking their kids and they're very competitive. And we've heard stories about the famous child stars where the parents were like, no, don't talk to the other children. No, no, you can't play with them. And I think a lot of stuff got laid on

her. And I think she thought Melissa Gilbert and I were juvenile, the link when she may have been right about that. So yeah, it was really weird. We were probably lucky we didn't just like tear each other's hair out. I mean, a bunch of teenage girls in this situation. But yes, it was weird. And I come because it's sort of funny that the girl is playing the most innocent sweet girl. Those blind is actually the one who's copying the more Hollywood diva to of the three. It was like I think what is going on.

Her character also was like she was sort of like more sanctimony ifs than say Laura was. So she was more like pie, I think, than she was like, ma. And that's the thing in the books. If you read the books, Laura is kind of open about, tch, tch, Mary. That Mary is a little too goody, goody, and a little too serious.

And like as they get older, they even talk about why were you so difficult, Mary's like, I'm sorry. I don't know. And they did a musical. They did a musical of stage musicals, Little House. And they have a song called So Good, which is Laura complaining about how Mary is such a just wet blanket

and dark goody good. It's basically Martian, Martian, Martian. Completely, utterly, utterly, utterly. Oh yeah, they had a huge fight to one of the early books because Mary's blonde. And some crazy relative remarks that her blonde hair is prettier than Laura's and Laura's. So that was a real thing in Laura's life in the books.

Do you think, do you think Paul Ingalls was the mic rating of the frontier? Hi, girl. Happy hair. The hair, the hair with it. Totally. Totally. And of course, it's interesting. Because we always talk about like, it's so great. You have three levels.

It's like what with Star Wars, you have the, you know, the comic books and you have the cartoons and you have the video, the other videos and you have the movies. You have the, what is canon and what is not. With Little House, you have the TV show, you have the books, and then you have Laura's actual life in history. Because she started making stuff up in the book. She kind of messed with the timeline, and went, well, let's talk.

I'll say I moved to that down earlier. It sound better. And so, this is my favorite part. The people at the Walnut Grove Museum said they love this when women who know all of the show in the books are there in the end of drag the boyfriend along and about an hour in he turns around and goes, does shit's real?

Oh, wait, it's good. Yes, Laura Ingalls Wilder was a real live human who was born in Peppin, Wisconsin and lived for some time in Walnut Grove, Minnesota, as well as all over the states that kept moving. And she eventually settled in Mansfield, Missouri, where she, with her husband, El Manzo, she sat down and said, hey, you know, I should write these books. Her daughter Rose was by then an author.

It was like, my, my, my, you got to write, get to write about those farm stories. It was great. It'll sell. And she wrote Little House in the Big Woods and Little House on the Prairie and Farmer Boy in Little Town on the Prairie. And a little, like, there's like nine of them. And eventually what happened is a guy named Ed Friendly was shopping it around to networks trying to sell a show of it.

And then Michael Landon came off by the ends and went, that, that, that, I want to do that. And suddenly we had Little House in the Prairie of the TV series with Michael Landon. The books came out in the 1930s during the Depression and were insanely popular because the Ingalls were poor in the 1800s and now everybody was broke in the Depression. So they really dug the books. And then in the 70s, we had a recession and people didn't have any food.

And they really dug the show. So it all just kind of worked out seamlessly and Was a gigantic massive hit But yes, there really is it was a Laura and shit a daughter named Rose Rose did not have kids There's a lot of cousins people who were descended from cousins Nelly Nelly had a bunch of kids and I actually was on the phone once with I believe my my grandson I actually was on the phone once with, I believe, my grandson. I would. There are really descendants walking, walking among us.

You said something in your book that I felt the same way about Fight Club is that you said, like Michael Landon and Ed Friendley looked at those books, which are a lot of them are boring. And they saw a TV show. And that's the way I felt with Fight Club. I was like, oh, I read the book and I saw the movie and I was like, whoever saw this movie is the real genius. Right, right. And that's the thing. And they saw two different very two very different TV shows.

And Franny's vision was a little kind of, you know, more PBS. It was going to be more, you know, this endless shots of the Prairie and Sunrise. And the children were going to be more, you know, this endless shots of the prairies and rise and the children were going to be barefooted. It was going to be super authentic and down like, you know, just was that movie Days of Heaven. It was going to look like Days of Heaven basically where he's down. It was like that kind of thing. Whereas Michael went, look, I just kind of came off a TV show, very formulaic, but it's

extraordinarily popular. And I know how it's done. I've directed episodes of a man's, I know what I'm doing. And he said, yes, we're going to do super prairie authentic, but we're going to include all these elements that people are familiar with from a TV show because it's got to be 22 minutes, bubble, bubble. And he's like, he said, as you one city said, they're in the books, there's an entire chapter

on how to make an Apple Fredder and I can't film that. So yeah, he's like's like no you add things and that's why he chose not really the book little house in the prairie they were in Kansas. He chose the book bank supple him creek because he said that's what you want to make a show from. The pilot can be out in the prairie in Kansas. He said the show you want to be in town. We have a school, and the church, and the store, and the Mrs. and Mr. Olsen, and a doctor, and you have these people who make up a town for the Ingalls to interact with, and you have an enemy, you have Nelly, you have all this excitement, and he said that's a much more exciting book. And has more going on that you can make a TV show out of it. Hello, smart, yes.

I feel like I'm hugging up else. Don't you say we have a bonnet head, a true bonnet head fan girl who is like shrieking and fangirling out right here. Don't you want to ask something? Let her ask something. It's only by my good grace that that she's here. Well they should be very very grateful to you but let her ask. I know too much of a big one. Go ahead. That's one of my questions. I don't know. It's like I'm playing. Oh, no. She's like dying here. What do you want to know? This is the check I hear. Look out. Yeah. You go walk questions. I'm not taking all this questions. Okay, what's your fast food guilty pleasure? Really?

That's what I do. I mostly, I know I sound like, I'm a cigarette, a ginger, ginger, ginger, fast food. I ate a lot of junk when I was a kid. Oh, kind of just crap. Now I'm like, I will go to Jack of the Box, Jack of the Box. I will go to Jack of the Box, Jacques Adelaide-Bois. I will go to Jack of the Box and I will get the little Chinese Asian bowl thing with the rice and the chicken, the teriyaki bowl

with the sauce, because it's got like, that's what it actually is, like broccoli and carrots and chicken. Are you in California? I am, I am in Los Angeles. I will eat that. Oh, okay. I will eat that. I don't eat boxes. No, you know what, Jack of the Box is everywhere. I will eat that. Okay. I will eat that. I don't eat boxes.

No, you know what? Jacket box everywhere. I don't eat red meat. So I don't eat the burgers. I'll eat like a chicken, I'll eat chicken and stuff like that. And so I like like the teriyaki bowl. That's kind of it. I'm trying to think of other.

There's a place near me that's not a chain. It's going to look the old tiny diner thing. And they a turkey burger and they don't put salt on their fries and they make all these soda that they yeah go like there. But I generally do not eat very much fast food like at all. because I'm got your journalism on my own flag and I'm not for it. You said also in your book that like, this reminds me of like back in the 80s, there was a harm, a haunted mansion, and a peer by where we live. And people would like go after the actors,

like the guy dressed up as Frankenstein or Dracula, they would like hit them and stuff. And we said that like just going out, like I think you and was it Catherine? We're great. You guys went somewhere and they were like, we don't like you. Oh, it was insane. It was a very very very posh private school in LA and so for their Easter fair, they had baby ducks, they had everything at this Easter fair. And I guess, I think someone at that school either worked for the network or knew somebody,

because they said, we went kind of to the McGregor Nell and said, we went to them and cost you. And normally that kind of request would be like, are you high? No, that's not happening. But somebody knew somebody, so we get this call, hey, you guys, somebody worked for him, some NBC executives, kids went there or something.

They're like, you're going, like, really? And I remember my father said, this is a bad idea. So we get, I mean, the studio was in it. We went to the studio and had them completely do our hair, get the thing in the, out for the girls in the costume. And we went in full, very drag, I guess Mrs. Olson and only to this event. Everyone was horrified.

Nobody wanted our autograph. Katherine made a small child cry. And these people cried. Look, it's witches. Oh, it's like, ehh! She was screaming and crying in terror. And Katherine was absolutely, she was really upset. She was like, drama just like,

hi, baby, don't get dried up. She was horrified. And finally, kind of gave up. We just kind of gave up. And my father said, we should just, this is stupid. And I went and got a hot dog and slushy. And that's when two little girls ran up behind me and kicked me in the butt and knocked me

onto the pavement using my hot dog and slushy. And I realized, though, that with that petty code, is so good, good, good, good, get up. And then my father came and got me and was like, Argil, this is a terrible idea. And he got father came and got me and was like, aren't you just a terrible idea? And he got, he bought, before we left, though he bought me another hot dog and he slushy to his credit.

And he said, we're leaving and drag me out of there and even call the people who said it up and said, I told you this was a terrible idea. He said, that costume, it incites people, it incites people. That was like serious, like,, it was very dramatic about it. But he said, look, you're not, you're not Holly hobby. You're not strawberry shortcake.

You're an actress who happens to play someone in the 1800s. They really can't be going around in the freaking costume. It's too much. Because even without the costume, I mean, with the Christmas parade, where somebody threw a McDonald's couple orange soda and my face is know, I mean, with the Christmas parade, with somebody through a McDonald's couple orange soda, my face isn't going to go, I'm very Christmas.

And direct hit, moving object, I will give him credit. But yeah, no, I'm still, I'm 61 years old and I still have people go, that episode in music, my dear means, it's not a record of the hard, but they're still, it's a little bit upset and come to me to yell at me in my face about things I did.

So yeah. Well, she can do it. Stustner. But what you said in your book, you used PMS to motivate you at times. It's just to be so bitchy as Natalie. Like was there anyone in your life where anyone you knew that you sort of child? Because it seemed like there were no more like these pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, there were a couple of girls at school. I mean, that's the, what are the reasons people like this thing? Was everybody had a nilly at their school. Everybody had a missus old son at their job. Everybody knew somebody like that. So they're like, yes, yes, yes, we understand. And there were a couple of girls at my school. There was like the girl when, oh, yeah, we were like passing

in note to a start. We're having to have someone having a party at their house. It's the passing to note you're coming. And she intercepted the note and twisted this girl's arm behind her back and took the note out of her hand and said, you better invite me and threatened to beat us all up if we did not have her over. Charming, charming, yeah, yeah, this girl. And there was, there were a couple of real buttes.

There were a couple of girls who were kind of hostile in elementary school, engineering or high that I had to deal with. And I was kind of like, what would she do? Yes, it would be like, it would be like this. And so I knew, I knew I had people act like belly and treat me. I was more at the Laura at school. I was more the bully fodder who got clobbered. So I certainly knew what bullying looked like. I'd

seen it up close as it came at my face. So I was like, well, here's my revenge. This is my revenge on everyone who's mistreated me. I'm going to send them up and parody them on national television. You want to have anything? You want me to let the crazy bought-in head lady ask a question. You want to have something all these years. She has watched it recently actually. That's the good thing about having a younger wife is now I can go back and rewatch all the 70s and 80s stuff that she hasn't seen. I'm like this is great, this is great, this is great, a little personal preference. We had the regular generation, the original, we had the re-region

generation, like after school generation, then we had the VHS generation, the DVD generation, and now people are watching it on their phones. So we're like seven generations of viewers in at this point. What day did it, and I recall it airing on Sunday nights. Did it air on Sunday nights through its entire run? No, it started on Wednesday nights. September 11th, 1974. It started on Wednesday nights. And then we moved, we moved to Monday, which was scandalous because we thought we were done for.

We were hot shows. So NBC was playing with the board going, how can we compete against it? And they moved us and put us opposite Rota and Phyllis. The month of the CBS. And I liked Rota and Phyllis. And they were big hits. And I thought, well, that's we're going to get clobbered. And we clobbered Rota and Phyllis.

They like changed their times lots because it was too often. That was too, that was a CBS show, right? Wrote in Phyllis? Yeah, yeah. So did they, but I recall being on Sundays, am I wrong? Oh, yes. Yeah. You were.

I need to make it like reruns or something. They did a Sunday night special. But yeah, we started on Wednesdays and then we're on one days. So you pretty much, there was only the three channels. So like what was like, what was the competition for all those years? And like, what were you up against?

That you guys brought? So Monday nights, but for all of all, there was road influence. Oh my God, there was a Mel Brooks had a show. What was it when things were rotten? And I was frozen. I really liked that. I wanted to watch that. I'm on that.

The Harriet and Nelly, I think, are two of the most iconic seven-these bullies ever, villainous as both of them. What did you ever, like did anyone ever psychoanalyze Nelly? Not officially, but I've noticed that over the years, people do have a slightly different attitude. Back in the 70s, it was just where she says bad. She's bad. She's me, belly. And then the 80s, 90s, it was sort of high camp, or she's bad, but she's baby Joan Collins,

she's a bitch, yeah. And they kind of liked it. And now, I mean, when I was in France, I talked about that in the book that blew my mind, they all started having this discussion like they were analyzing Nellie and they said, she was a child, a child without a smile. And that Nellie was jealous and lonely because here was Laura who had paw and my Ingles for her mom. And here was Nellie with Mrs. Olson. And here was this lovely family, the Ingles, and here she had her stupid brother, Willie, and she asked

you had everything materially. She had, you know, she was rich, but she didn't really have real friends, and she didn't have the parents Laura had and people like Laura didn't really like Billy that much and she was insanely jealous and that's why she was acting out and now people tend to say well of course that poor girl was like a look at her mother look at her mother like that poor child and she was jealous, she couldn't help herself

so like now people are more sympathetic they kind of think about these things going well well, I mean, the mob's crazy. If really if you act like that, their kid, of course, he's going to be that way when he expects. Never like on the, but then you have Mel's who's so even like, beyond even killed. He's trying to be nice and he's being very modern and he's trying not to, I mean, he threatens to get the belt and go all 1800s and beat me. But you know, you never see him do it.

And you know that like even when he said, that's it, that like once we got up there, he's like, well, you really need to change your ways. I'm so totally not beating you. You know, you know, he didn't do it. Yeah, very, very forward. He did have weird episodes though. Like one of the strangest and the most enjoyable episodes

is the Legend of Black Jic, which is like later on in the series. It's so out of nowhere. Like, how can you do anything? And we had stuff like the James Brothers show up, but I'm not sure timeline-wise, if Jesse James, that was even physically possible, and it was like, what's that? Yeah, here we go.

Oh, and the one, the famous jump of Shark Episode, where, and it was meant to be stupid, where this guy comes in and the one the famous jump of shark episode where and it was meant to be stupid where This guy comes in and is explaining the concept of chain restaurants and tries to have Mrs. Tell him chain and at the end of the show a guy dressed up as Colonel Sanders gets out of the the Buggy. It's like hide it's like get away get away. It's like aha ha ha ha KFC. Um, so yeah, I mean stuff like that Third of moments though like when we watch the show and like I watch it and I look at your eyes like when you're when you're interacting with someone and I'm like Meli is a sociopath. Like there's no.

Yeah, like the minor shifts in your expressions in your eyes and like that's a fucking good actress man. Thank you and see that people are catching the little subtleties now. Like they're noticing the difference between, like me and like Nancy, my horror adopters, this or, and when I met her, she even said, she grew up watching the show. She had watched me and she said, well, I didn't want to copy you. He was like 11 and her mom was a psychologist.

So she was very aware of things. She said, I didn't want to copy you. I wanted to do something different. And you were kind of, you know, bitchy. She said, so I decided to go with crazy, which is you saw Nancy really was. Nancy was very disturbed. And she was playing it that way in purpose. That's where a lot of people find Nancy more annoying. But yeah, there's many subtle things, almost little Easter eggs that we actors put in, little sides, little like spit takes, little jokes,

little tiny little things that we kind of threw in. And back in the 70s, I don't think people even noticed. People were not that aware. They were just kind of falling to it. And now everyone's going, hey, like in the wedding episode, when you in person were driving away and he says to the honeymoon and you do this weird

take and look at him, what was that? I'm like, no one has noticed that for 15 years. 50, I made that fabulous. We put in this hilarious take where it's like the honeymoon. I'm like, wait, what? And it's freaking hilarious. And nobody has commented. 50 years later, people are like, oh my God, that was funny.

Yeah, and I can be completely informed in the 70s. It's like, if you missed it, forget it. If you're not seeing it until the next year, maybe, you know, right. What that's it now, it's like you can miss it, forget it. You're not seeing it until the next year maybe, you know. Right, we've got to now, it's streaming. It's on people who, oh God, the bluepers think everyone's going crazy. So did Albert die? Because now we're going to be a dogger

and then Albert dies and drag it. When they wrote it, they never thought you'd watch the two episodes back to back. Those episodes were yours apart. They had no idea it was going to happen down the road. They went, what are people going to do? Watch the episodes all together and compare them. Ah, ah, ah, ah. episodes were yours apart, they had no idea it was going to happen down the road. They went, what are people going to do? Watch the episodes altogether and compare them.

No, they didn't know. So they went, well, I guess we're going to kill them off now. Didn't we have something in the narration that said it became a doctor? Yeah, but who the hell is going to remember that? Yeah, there was a lot of, there were quite a few like convenient things like like they would tackle stuff like racism Like Joe Kagan like they don't want them to church and then finally like the community exception They never see Joe Kagan again Like they they got what happened

I'm a property stuttery girl that I've just so mean to work she got Chopped off her hair and then hit the road she wound up on the TV show hotel actually chopped off her hair and then hit the road. She wound up on the TV show Hotel, actually. She put it in. Okay. Okay, gross. Got something? Oh, I'm afraid to say something.

Nancy, I saw is more of like a psychopath. She, yeah, yeah. Like you said, she was truly crazy. And there's a moment where like when she goes to get adopted, it really kind of reminded me of Dexter. When Harry- We should pretend for Cass mother, yeah. And Harry, it's like, don't worry, I know what you are.

That's so creepy. When Harry sits outside that door goes, I knew why he did shy knew. She was spoiled, I spoiled her. And I know I spoiled it, I will spoil you. That's like, oh my god! I love that scene. She's so fun to watch on that show.

Like she, like the way you described her in the book, and some of the YouTube interviews that I've watched. But, yeah, that's absolutely bananas. And she was comingly pretty off camera. Someone recently on Facebook found some old pictures and put them up more like, wait, wait, Catherine, Gregor is beautiful. Yeah, um, she was so gorgeous in real life. She was tall, she beautiful. She had this long black hair. She said when she was really young, she had long black

hair to her waist and more bright red lipstick like Chinese dresses like dragon lady. And she had long black hair and she was really quite attractive and very well dressed. And one day after school, I was, guess we all lived in the same neighborhood. I lived here. She lived spending blocks over and up and Richard Bull lived this many blocks over and down with her like, but then walking distance. So I came, I was coming from school and a friend of mine from school, this boy who was about 13 and we ran into Catherine and the street, which is common occurrence. And so I was like, oh, how you doing?

Yeah, I was shopping, blah, blah, blah, blah. She goes on her way. And this poor boy, this 13-year-old boy from junior high, he's staring at her like, and he gets all like weird, goes, oh, is that like a friend of your mom? Oh, good. It's like, you know, the states, he's mom, it's got to going on kind of thing.

He's like got a crush. And I said, oh, I'm sorry. Did you not know that's Catherine? He's like, who?. And I said, oh, I'm sorry. Did you not know that's that's Catherine? He's like, who? I said, Catherine, great. Who's the woman who plays Mrs. Olson? You know on the show. You went, ah!

Don't make traumatized because he's like fallen madly in love with her in a few minutes. And he's like, the idea that that was Mrs. Olson upset him. They did things where like I really didn't like what they did with your character in terms of like personal shows up. He's gonna straighten out the restaurant but then he ends up like straightening you out

to a point where like you become a step from like basically. We're like redemption through marriage kind of. Like I like that, you know, they clearly were madly in love. I mean, that was one of the things that people were like, oh, first of all, and nobody, it's like kind of hard. They have a relationship. And I adored Steve, but yeah, that last year, I was just kind of like coffee, coffee, lambs too.

But they were like, toast with us. Like, what is happening? Like, and I kept hoping I'd have a relapse. They could have an absolute, like echo, nuts, never relapse. Doc Baker has to be called in. But they didn't, and they weren't sure what to do. They weren't once they'd done that. They did a huge thing when I first was getting nice,

and then I had the babies. They was like, yes, this is brilliant. We bring in his family and the whole Tuesday. And then they just went, I don't know what to do. Well, now she's nice. She's now like every other woman on the pra Tuesday. And then they just went, I don't know what to do. Well now she's nice. She's now like every other woman on the prairie, and she's making food, and we have no idea what to do with this now.

And I was like, I'm just treading off. What am I doing here? I'm not, there's 10 other women on this show going more coffee. I don't, I don't need to be here. Right. Yeah, he said, like they weren't willing to cough up anymore money in terms of, uh, Well, they sent the suits, as they say, the suits were, and they were just like, this

is how much it is. Uh, I think that if they said shows only going to get two more years to sign for two, I probably would have, uh, sure, two years. Who could you do? But they, they wanted us to sign for like five or more like a long time. And my father was teasing me saying I was going to wind up like you know, Miss Kitty on Dunsmoke. I was going to be there forever. So I was like, it was time to move on.

I watched I also watched I married a fighter. I watched you go also watched, I married a writer. I watched, you got through the whole thing. I did it. I did it. You survived, I married a writer. Oh my God. I did, I was able to do it. Well, tonight being over Rocky Mountain skipping River Linden, I think River River will

be Queens and they decrease. They, they follow them. Who please? Yeah. Rios. Rios, Muntonic dance. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I got to think because they were like, we want Allison.

I'm driven. She's from the prairie. It's just they call me age. It was like, there was no audition. So it's like show up. I'm like, great. Pay the bunch of money. It was lovely. And so I pooped by the Arizona and there's

Maria and there's these girls. So there's like, Oh, there's a dance number. Like, for what? And it was a dance. And they're doing this whole thing in the choreographer leaves. And I'm sitting there going, uh, and Marie sees and she's like, you have no idea what like what to do to you don't I look like I don't dance. She's like, okay, come with me. And Maria Osmond dragged me up on stage. She gets to the floor. She grabs my ankles and to do, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to stay like that. Don't move. And then she says, okay, play the music. Then she says, just follow me. Just follow me. Stay kind of like you're and just do whatever I do.

Just look at my feet do whatever I do. And she taught me literally how to dance and how to do this entire routine. And she said, you're singing your lip singing to track. Don't even worry about that. And then when we got to the big soap, my solo will be Queen's and make de-crease. Baby follow it that whole thing. She came up with that. Okay. big soap, my solo, will be queens of man, de-crease, baby, follow that whole thing. She came up with that, she said, okay, okay, yeah,

will be queens and make de-crease, they may follow them who please. And I'm like, that's insane. She's like, yes, it'll be hysterical to it. And she taught me to do that. And she was in the wings of the theater when they shot it. She's standing off to the side and they're not recording

anything because it's lip sync. So I'm doing that whole thing at Maria Osment is in the wings going, go! Alice, I do it! Yes, yes, do! So she's a great teacher at Maria Osment, dance teacher to the stars. I'm telling you. It's still a heavy weight names from the 70s. It was so bonkers. It was really wonderfully weird. It was a very strange movie. But we were all these actresses that we were in to them, Stone, and there was the real birdcage theater and everything.

It was kind of wonderfully weird historic. But yes, I survived three weeks in the desert with my reawesment. The reason we actually wanted to go back and rewatch the entire series with my wife was because one day I had this big memory. I was like, I think there's an episode where Laura goes to hell. I was like, I'm not sure what it was. Yes, the dungeon. That's, is it music box? Yeah, the music box. I didn't remember. I did remember it was a music box at the time, but I was like, I think Laura's to her and I got a I call the see episode read and I hate me because it was but I'm sorry I was I had to go to speech class after school and I was a kid I had a lift by the terrible look and so my friends I

was friends with all the studdlers and stammerers I'm not gonna like pick on us that are her so I went to school so I'm like this is horrible so I'm like they all think Peter Piper picked a pack of pickled peppers, and she's crying, and it's a Katie Kurtz and great actress. So it's like so awful. I'm like, this is horrible. So we shoot this thing.

And then Laura steals the music box, but she's so guilt-ridged, she has these nightmares. And she's in a medieval dungeon. And Catherine and I are dressed up in like weird dungeon master clothes. And I come down and I took, as like weird dungeon master clothes and I come down and took Turkey. It was a big turkey legs.

You know, Renaissance fair and I whacker in a head turkey leg and then eat it. And then we kill her because she has to be Hank and she's on the cart and we take her. They built a gallows like in the middle of the world. They built a gallows and she's. And I had a good executioner's on. But with the ringlet sticking out, and then Michael B. Michael's like here, peppermint sticks. So I had the peppermint stick sticking out of the mouth.

Of the executioners. Sorry, this is not started out. And I couldn't hear what you were saying for like the last. I had actually had the ringlet sticking out of the executioners who had an A-peformance bit. Yeah. And then we hang her and then she wakes up. But I like how many shows do you have a dream sequence where they execute and actually

hang the lead actress who's like 12? I mean, it's just like, what is happening? It's one of the weirdest deficits. Yeah, it's bizarre. That's what I think a lot of people don't realize about. The show is that it has such a dark edge to it at times. It's not like, it's not the real problem. It's still the opposite.

So I just interviewed, I just interviewed Olivia Barra. I should have played Sylvia on my show, the Alice in the Argonum Show, where interview people, I just had Olivia Barra show on the other day. And that was Sylvia, part one and 2, where Albert has this little friend, this darling little girl who's very like young for her age and gets sexually assaulted, gets raped by this guy who turns out to be blacksmith. And he's wearing a mask that's like a creepy, weird, black mask that it's the creepiest, scariest thing ever. And then she gets pregnant and Albert wants to marry her and take her away and make it all

okay. And this guy hunts her down and kills her. Hey, murders, the child, the little pregnant girl. Like, what is happening? And this was a two-part episode, a little house in the brain. Yeah, that was an amazing storyline. That one, the blind school burning down And poor Mrs. Garb and and her share her superiority of played Mrs. Garb. She's always saying I was not using the baby as a

Battering ramp. I was trying to break the window with my shoulder. Yes, I still had the baby I was not using baby's head to break the window older. Yes, I still had the baby. I was not using baby's head to break the wind. Because people ask because she was in the baby to break the wind. What is happening in that scene? They said, no, I do not use the baby's battery. I was some dark stuff on there. I always liked also that you guys like Mrs. Olsen had the idea to get the switchboard because if there's anyone who shouldn't be operating a switchboard in town, it's you guys. I'm just like what does your mom about her old husband like sticky such clean.

Oh, it's great. I love the area's happening. She had the newspaper and yeah, yeah, yeah. We got anything? Well, yeah, I have a couple. I mean, there are just this questions that I ask all our guests. What makes Allison tick? Large amounts of coffee.

That's, yeah, it's how I manage the dogas. What makes me tick? I'm just, I'm trying to survive and have a good time. You know, I worked really hard as a little kid. You know, my sagg says, members since 1967. So now it's 61. It's like, OK, I'm going to do stuff. I still work.

But do I watch to that? Does it be fun? Does it be fun? Does it pay? Does it pay? How much is it back? Is it interesting? Is it interesting?

I tell people independent film producer, go send me your script. Send me your scripts. I will read them. Is it a good script? Is it well written? OK. Good. Good. Is it SAG? I tell people independent film producer, send me your script, send me your scripts. I will read them. Is it a good script? Is it well written? Okay.

Good. Good. Is it SAG? Are you a union? Because we need it. We got the pension. You know, we need that. Are you a union? And then is it funny if it's a comic, did it make me laugh?

And so is it a good part? Does a good part look? Oh, it's not a big part. It's really interesting. I've always wanted to play somebody like that. Yeah. And do you have any money? Like some money. I mean, May, general hit you up,

but you know, a reasonable amount of money. And generally, if you're making independent film and you can basically, you can, you can pay people and you, you sign the union papers and your script is interesting that I might be amused to do it, you know, sling it my way. So I'm interested in doing things that are interesting

and I'm interested in doing things that help people. That's why you know a lot of my charity work, but even some of the fan events, we've been doing these wacky fan events all over the country, the cast of Little House, a whole bunch of us at a time, pickers, marks, antique, mart, garden things, and we've been all over the country, we're going to a thing in Oklahoma and we're going to a thing in Kentucky in August, and they're these very strange. It's way in the middle of nowhere. And everything involves like a river boat ride now, apparently. And it's hysterical. You get in a Mark Twain river boat and have dinner.

Actually, it's kind of fun. But we get together as a cast and we get to be with each other and hang out. And we sell stuff at a scraper. We come home, you get paid. But we hang out with the fans and we meet these people. People come and say, I drew seven hours to get here just to meet you.

It's like, like, God, I don't. So I like to do things that are sort of fulfilling for me and cast. It's not just like, well, I'll go do that. How much I paid? Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. It's like, is it interesting? Would somebody benefit from this?

Will it make somebody happy? You know. Okay, I got another one. What keeps Allison up at night? Again, the coffee. No. Oh, God, mostly my cats. The cats like to fight.

They like to get one of my feet and one of my head and there are ones on my husband's head and ones on my head. And then they decide to have a knockdown drag out y'all screaming fight at three o'clock in the morning. So that's kind of a problem. Things that have kept me up at night with your men and paws, but that's much better now. But yeah, they've been at the wakein' up at night.

You're getting it, just crank the air conditioning. You'll be fine. And I strange noises, strange noises, and the queen of struggle, was that? Was that, was that, was that, was that, did you hear that? Did you hear that? No, nobody heard that, because Allison Allison you have hearing like a bat nobody heard that except um so yeah lots of thanks I got one more then what is something that isn't free but you think should be. Gosh, um, health care and toilet paper.

Oh, my truck. I mean, that would pretty much make life so just the two right there. Your whole day would be different. So you have, like you said a little bit earlier, we're over an hour now. You do a lot of charity, a lot of charity work, a lot of you're involved in a lot of projects and one of them stemmed from your TV show, How's it been Percival Steve Tracy? He was a very good friend of yours. He got HIV and he died of AIDS and from then on you've really sort of spearheaded some projects.

each other any type of aids and from then on you've really sort of spearheaded some projects. And yeah, he did. He and he went public with his diagnosis. Now, we don't know exactly. And he probably was infected like right after the show. Maybe he said, I don't know. He says, that's 70s. And he said, and at the time he got infected, they didn't know yet. In fact, when he started getting sick and oh gosh, I want 85, maybe'm 84. It took him four doctors to get a diagnosis. He showed up at a doctor and said, look, I'm up on things. I've been reading the articles. I think I have AIDS. And they're like, no, you don't.

He's like, yeah, no, really, I do. This is probably Cappacese sarcoma. The cancer, they're like, no, it's a bug bite. He's going, no, it's not. Why do I know more about this? This is terrible. And he finally found a doctor knew what they're doing in ran the right test And they were like, yeah, sorry, you're right. You have HIV. It's a document systems. I don't grab so

He uh, in in like late 85 or 86 he went public. He said he calls. I'm going public and he did and he went on television And that wasn't a thing that raw cousin had like just died and he was not going to tell anyone And it was you was a deathbed thing, whereas he was like, okay, I'm going to do this. More people need to know. And he said, people need to know. They know me. They've seen me from TV. If my talking about it helps, I'm going to do it.

But he was that kind of guy. I mean, it got it was like, I think they came up with AZT, like right after he died, they didn't have a lot of drugs then. They certainly didn't have the cocktail now or any of that. They had very experimental stuff they were fooling around with the fact that he lived as long as he did a miracle. He was on an experimental drug, he did one of the trials. He said, yeah, I'll try it.

And it did interfere on D, I think it was back in the day. And he had to do injections, like plunge and needle into his leg. And I said, oh, that sounds awful. I said, is that painful? And he said, oh, yeah, it hurts like hell. I said, really? Because yes, some of the other guys in the trial quit because it hurt too much. Why are you still doing it? Is it kind of a high tolerance to pain? I can do it. And I said, well, is it

going to work? And that's when he said, oh, it's too late. It's too late for me. It won't save me. I'm too far progressed. I'm doing it so they can study it and save other people after I'm too far progressed I'm doing it so they can study it and save other people after I debt So that's kind of person So yeah, I started volunteering at AIDS Project Los Angeles and trying to help other people and do Education about not to get it and what to do with your friends are sick and and I went all over the country And I did a lot for APL I I did the AIDS Project Los Angeles Summer Party Universal where I produced the comedy stage

and I hosted a thing called AIDS Vision on public television where I interviewed people about AIDS, I did everything. And so you have that going on, you have your one woman show that you're still doing. Confessions of a prairie bitch was the camera on there. I can't recommend it highly. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Mary Beth, anything you want to say to Alison? Goodbye, maybe. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for giving us your door. All right. So she even got a we're going to do because we have other projects and we're going to do a retrospective of the house in the prairie. She has her bonnet, our prairie dress, all kinds of stuff.

Good, good. I have a store online where we can hook her up with bonnets and you know stuff. Official bonnet for a bonnet. Official little house bonnet. No, no you have like any social media. I didn't see that in the god I'm on everything. I'm on Facebook and Instagram and all that stuff and I do have an online store. I website bonnetheads.com and there's a store on square bonnetheads on square site and where you can buy all my stuff

that'll autograph for you and stuff and I'm everywhere. You sign up for the Nelly newsletter. Email loose gravel brought at AOL, the Scravel Production stuff. Loose gravel brought at AOL and say I want the Nelly newsletter once a month to get an email telling you where I will be. Nice. Anything else you want to promote? Anything else you got going on? Oh, like I said, check my Facebook, because we've got a thing in Kentucky, nothing in Chicago, and a thing in Oklahoma. I'm kind of taking June to lie off a little easy, but then August, September,

October, and then I'm back in New York, and then I'm back in France. So I've got back to back appearances starting in August. All right. Well, thank you for joining us on a personal level. Like I said, we've been doing this since 2010. This is one of my favorite moments doing it. Thank you very much. Walt, I'll turn this guy into a bonnet head yet. Don't get worried about it. So thanks again.

Thank you, thank you very much. All right, Walt, so that was it. Nelly. Wow. Impressive. Yeah, I had no idea she had so much connections to old Hollywood. Well, a lot of connections to the Hollywood that were interested in. Yeah, I knew that you weren't a little house fan necessarily, but I knew that when she started dropping the Liberace and Chiro and all that stuff, it was going to get you going. Karen Valentine.

That's a name. That one almost, you know, that one falling in my chair. Nobody knows if Karen Valentine is. No. What almost made me fall out of my chair was Mary Beth Stone Silence for an hour. What the fuck man? That's Nelly. Nelly on.

You were so excited the whole way here. I can't wait to see it. You know what you have? You still excited. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that.

It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that.

It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. I don't know if tears are the appropriate response to it. I might have to break the bad news to Nellie. We're not going to be doing that little house retro suspect after all.

I will tell you about American musical supply, which is your one stop shop for all your audio and musical supply needs. With gear for podcasters, guitarist, drummers, vocalist, DJs and home recording enthusiasts, American musical supply has all the equipment for sounding great. They're stocked with the latest and greatest gear from today's top brands like Gibson Yamaha,

Shore and Zoom to name a few. And whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, AmericanMusical.com has a variety of products to suit every skill level. And if you don't have a lot of money right now, they have unbeatable payment plans. Payment plans between four and 18 months, four and six month plans, starting at 49 bucks

with no credit check. Eight and 12 month payment plans started at $299. So shop at americanmusical.com. You can expect fast and free shipping on nearly all products because they have top gear, in stock at four warehouses across the United States. And most United States deliveries take only one or two days. Also need I mentioned and operated.

American musical supply has over 30 years of award-winning customer service. Their gear experts are sitting by and would love to help you find the recording production and performance essentials. So visit americanmusical.com today, apply promo code TESD to check out for $20 off a purchase of $100 or more.

That's $20 off using the promo code TESD at americanmusical.com. So that's probably it for this week. Troy Cimover and he put together some furniture for me, some patio furniture, he helped me. He went to a, he went to a con. And you called the homicide detective to help you put together furniture?

Well, if you could figure out cases and clues and shit, surely he's good with instructions. You got a fucking office coach. We got a mule out there. You know, I guess there's just no crime or everybody's cool today. No problems. Now he he brought his wife and daughtery dropped them off at the metal lands because it was a Taylor Swift concert. And I was thinking like, because he was like, I'm not going to go all the way back to Long Island, I'll just drop them off, go down, hang out with Brie for a while and then go pick them up.

And at that moment, I was like, I'll bet your Walt would be so glad to be bringing his daughter to a concert that has three or four people at it, rather than 72,000 people trying to leave the caucus at the same time. Like that's a major, major concert, man. I'm thinking also too, I have to interview. I'm gonna have to, I don't have to tinker with my questions. I keep asking this question thinking I'm gonna get

like some real insight, like profound answers. And everybody keeps fucking answering it literally when I ask what keeps them up at night. It's not, I'm not getting the weighty response. I'm getting like these like ghost. Yeah, so I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna go and work on these questions. It's a little freezing a little bit. Next level probably be Pam and Edgar, so what keeps them up at night each other probably. Still a great. Yeah. Yeah. Still, I'm their age.

Yeah. Grrrr. Adrian, top tier. Hell, Steve David.