Tell Em Steve-Dave - #573: Ming the Maverick
Episode Date: October 16, 2023Ming joins TESD to justify his award. The TESD'Z season is afoot. Git'em's receipt controversy continues. Enter to win a 4 Color Demon Guitar from American Musical Supply: tellemstevedave.com/amsgive...away
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["SAMMEN COLLARD"] Tell him, Steve Dave.
Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell them Steve Dave.
We got a full house here of course, Walt's here.
Hello.
Of course, Q is here.
How you standing?
Yeah, oh no.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Of staged.
Get him.
It's catching on.
I know.
People are stealing it. Yeah, people people I read on Twitter just recently.
They're like, I'm glad they didn't go with the guest route. When we were talking about getting guests
and that sort of all fell apart after Nellie. I never liked it. Yeah. No, I mean, it was just one of
those things where it's like, if we could get guests that are good for that we like, like,
the Durosa that we vibe with you know that that
works out but we don't vibe with how many people we just don't but this guy we certainly
vibe with we've been vibing for 13 years with this guy 13 dude.
Mm-hmm that's just on Mike that's just on Mike and vibe in since the mid 90s.
Yeah.
With Ming Chen.
Hello everybody.
Yeah. What's going on? Yes. Nobody vibes on Mikes with Ming Chen. Hello everybody.
What's going on?
Yes.
Nobody vibes on Mike more than Ming Chen.
No, wait, whoa, what's that supposed to mean?
Yeah, I like that.
That's pretty good.
It's good to see nothing's changed.
It's good to see nothing's changed.
Averyk is in the house.
Yeah, the maveryk is here.
This was a huge bone of contention last week, man.
I heard. I heard you guys just can't let me have it can you I can I know you
You can you let you have it and then Walt's sort of like you you got one to it's a huge side
I'm staying strong. I don't know where get him stands
The room I know I know where he stands in this
the room I know I know where he stands in this room. He's like, where's Walt stand?
What we're talking about in case you missed last week is that Ming won an award from the
New Jersey.
The Mama Tharts.
The Mama Tharts.
The Mama Tharts.
50 years strong, General.
50 years strong.
The Mama Tharts.
He won the Maverick Award and Kevin won a different award.
He won something else.
I'll show you.
Excellent in the arts or something. Excellent.
In the arts.
Now, how did you get on the radar of the arts committee?
I mean, I have no idea.
So they sent me an email maybe about six months ago saying that, hey, we love what you're
doing.
We have with this award ceremony.
We'd like to give you this Maverick Award.
And I thought it was a spam.
So I ignored it.
I was like, who the hell wants to
get me an award and like when you know where's the thing saying I get my credit card number
that just so absurd I have no idea I have no idea how they found me and so they sent me
I think four or five more and finally they're like listen do you want this thing or not because
you know when you give to someone else if you don't reply? What's more Maverick than not even answering that email?
If he had been like if he had known
He's like how they want to give me this award. I don't want this fucking war. I got I got shit to do
Yeah, I got me my nights free. I gotta go out bar hopping. Yeah
That's a Maverick Maverick did you have a
a speech?
Did you have to give one on acceptance? I had one prepared
But they didn't want any of the award winners to give speeches except haven't got to give except for Kevin's course
Of course, of Kevin's
The only guy that got to give a speech right. Yes. Yeah, I mean in the interest of some you couldn't stand up your feet and get it done as the
Maverick you should have fucked them one up there and did it anyway
I pulled the ODB it's like I fuck off on me a suit that cost me a lot of money today.
TSD is good but I saw comics it's the best.
I'm Ming Chen and yeah and this is for the children.
To shove Kevin and walk out.
It's just a little push.
I showed him.
I showed him but no actually you gave a really good speech. I'm sure. Yeah,
standing. Yeah, but it just seems like that's kind of a it's kind of weird then that you have that
stance like no, no, no, no, you can't. We only have one person giving a speech. I mean, it's not
like they're like, hey, you know, we love it. If you give an acceptance speech and then he came
and he's like, no, we're good. We're good. We don't need you to.
I want to do. I do feel ashamed about my behavior last week.
I'll just be put it on front street. I was jealous.
I was bitter and I was wrong.
So when you said he should get the award him for the next 10 years,
without content. No, no, I stand by that. Oh, okay. But I believed that, you know,
if it was up to me, yeah, the next decade you own that every year because I give it to a different person every year So I wouldn't could be you next year. Maybe you next year. It's not gonna be me. Probably not you're not gonna answer that email
Do you know the speech if they wanted to give you go ahead? Oh, sorry, sorry. Oh, so I have the speech
Yeah, you want to give oh you wrote the speech and then they were like sit down boy
Do you want to give the speech he definitely has it?
Yeah, I've been like five minutes or something. It doesn't make look like a Mexican gang banger
Totally dressed in black with a black hat like you have like real short hair too.
He looks like a electric man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you look like little Alex.
Yeah, no, I basically might, like many, many, many Alex. My whole speech in the Kevin was going to be
there was going to be, but it was all blown Kevin and how I based it
You know, I learned he's the ultimate Maverick. I mean, let's let's be honest
He's got always said last week that like if he had gotten the Maverick award
We couldn't I couldn't personally figure out what was Maverick like about your behavior. I don't know what's like what did they point to I
Was my behavior per se but you know
I think we're all Mavericks in the world of podcasting We started way before anybody else did back in 2009
2010 you know, he was doing it since then podcasting. I know everyone's doing it now
But it's it's you can see whatever you want
You know, it's a Maverick format if you can disparage people you can see what's on
Yeah, it's not like the radio where you got a break for commercials and shit like that. We're back. We're back. Yeah, basically the gist of my
speech was when I, you know, I got into all this as I created a clerk's fan website, right? Yeah.
And when I created that site, I took all this stuff. I went out and bought the clerk's laser disc.
I had all the like extra features and shit. And then we could see it ripped all that off and put
it up on the website and it got
count as attention.
But when I got the initial email when he, I got an email from going, Hey, I saw what
you did call me and I got excited at first and I was like, wait a minute.
I basically, I forgot about a thing called copyright law where I put all these shit up online.
So he easily could have sent me a season to assist.
Some people forgetting about copyright.
I know, I know.
I wanted to show.
I wanted, you know, most people would be like,
hey, take that shit down.
I own that, like, what are you doing?
But he went the other way and hired me instead.
And got to, got to where I am now.
So he was like, I don't care if my shit's online for free.
That is a maverick.
It is amazing, but having a website can do for you. Probably wanted it to.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Either you own it or you run the website.
Well, or you just slapped our money and steal it
from somebody else, but yeah.
So let's say, okay, let's say I can see
that Ming is a maverick, right?
Because he started podcasting boy back in the day.
Why don't we get any respect, Ming?
What is it about tell him Steve?
Well, I mean, I think
if you want to give respect, you
can give respect. Oh, God, it's
like the streets. Yeah. Kidding
me. Yeah, what was the last time
you gave me a respect to whom?
You're going to give any respect
to the art, the mom with arts.
You ignored five emails. I okay, I
did. I didn't even get an email
to ignore. I'm going to answer
it. Good point. Uh, tell us what we're doing wrong.
Why aren't we in the maverick consideration?
I, well, first of all, I'd be honest.
You could be brutal.
Okay.
Like slay us with, uh, first of all, it's, you know, it's a big fancy ceremony
to get dressed up.
Would you even have gone if you got invited?
What is dressed up mean?
I couldn't wear track pants.
No.
I think it's probably not.
I couldn't wear my Tom Brady jersey.
Imagine you're going to a wedding or a funeral probably, right?
Like that's how.
No, I'm sorry, but was that a funeral?
That you really had to dress up?
No, but it's a gala.
It was a gala.
It's already.
I don't know if you like a man would just show up
and whatever he wanted.
Right, but what?
Yeah, it was Kevin all dressed up.
He was. He wore a suit jacket at least but what was Kevin all dressed up? He was.
He wore suit jacket at least.
He wears that all the time.
He wore the shorts.
He did wear the shorts in the van.
That ain't.
Oh, so again, if you reach a certain status, you don't have to abide by the dress code.
I mean, it isn't that life.
So you're, I can't believe you're like, again, no, you're really showing you're not
a maverick though
Yeah, I wear a suit jacket to a galo
What's there an open bar there wasn't open bar. Yes. Okay. Okay. There wasn't do you know, it was like a wish I was a maverick. Yeah. Right. I
think a boy that's just I don't buy that. That if we dress better, we'll get
awards. No, it wasn't a trusting. What do you you hate these
things? Would you have him go? Have you had would you have
trended going? No, for an award, you would have looked forward to
go. Well, now they didn't know he's not even allowed to give a
speech. Just go up there and take it. It's like a high school graduation where you walk up, they give you the award, you would have looked forward to go. Well, now that it knows he's not even allowed to give a speech, just put up there and take it.
It's like a high school graduation where you walk up,
they give you the award, you shake the hand,
and you walk away, right?
Yeah, well, they put you up there.
They shot a whole introduction, a video introduction,
and it was like, oh, did I?
Did you supply it?
I didn't supply it to somebody else's shop.
Someone shot it for me.
They had a professional guy come down to shoot for you.
Follow you around.
And follow you came down to the studio,
shot B-roll there.
I had to go to a place they shot an interview with me for a couple hours cut it together
This is the real deal then there was a free free dinner no pizza though. What do you've gone? No pizza?
No chicken thing was on the ms. You know like prime rib steak, right?
It's a cut it couldn't get it well done. I don't that I don't know. I mean, they didn't ask, so fish.
There's fish.
It smelled funny in there.
Again, now these are things that I would have overlooked,
you know, if I'm getting an award.
He braved.
And a hometown award too.
It's not like people's choice.
It's not like something we have to beg the ants.
Like, please vote for us.
Right.
It's an honor bestowed.
That part was nice.
He braved a Chinese buffet the other day
During dinner hours, so it's just just sound like fashion. He made it in and out
Wow, and I think you're holding back though
I don't think you really think that the reason we're not getting any awards is because
We're really they don't know we're reluctant to come dressed up. They don't know that. What's the real reason? You know
I mean, you're fucking, you're chomping at the bit to say it.
Just pretty mean spirited.
I mean, you know, you should be like,
Oh, did you listen the last week's app?
Absolutely.
Oh, it's a kinder gentler,
QA ain't saying shit that's negative.
Wow.
People all chomped onto your side.
I'm glad to have you back.
Right, we got, we got Walt Pissin on cards
and spitting on all ladies and curbs topping people now.
I thought that was what, that doesn't slap the people with pizza.
That's a Maverick.
That's a Maverick right there.
So I'm in an old lady.
One week I'm getting lauded for growth and evolving.
They don't they don't like where I've evolved.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm Brian.
Yeah.
I do.
Whatever you want.
See, you never heard you fly for me. Well, I mean he can evolve all he wants
But the the point was that you and I had an evolved and that's what I disagreed with well that I didn't say that
Someone else had said that somebody else said that right someone we don't know online
Yeah, I love immediate hypocrisy at Tom Steve Dave. I'm shocked. Yeah, I'm so shocked
Come on Yeah, I love it. Immediate hypocrisy. Tom Steve Dave. I'm shocked. I'm so shocked. Exactly.
Exactly. But come on.
Beyond.
I think you guys are all being scared.
We're too mean spirited.
I think so.
Yeah.
So in awards,
they listen to you.
Listen to what you don't even have a podcast. What the fuck are they listening to?
I have a podcast studio.
They're awarding me for, you know, I think the Nivert part for that fucking chamber of commerce.
Shit.
That's stuff.
Oh my god.
That's why we need to do one with the community.
They don't take into account you going down
a shooting free commercials for all of the,
your relationship with the audience.
Has to tell, can you, like not be a good word?
Yeah, like all the good work I'm doing in the community.
I can put in a good word.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yes, me shit.
I thought it was us, man.
Now you're, you guys, we're not accepting.
You can accept the around we were shooting the commercials.
They can't be just based on the commercials.
Have you based on lots of stuff? Yeah.
You accept the award, but me and Q want to be in the
way. Absolutely. The roots we have.
That is.
Is it you that wants the award?
You yourself or Tom Steve Dave.
I'll take what I can get.
Okay. I would like to see Walt get it.
A shallow one. Yeah.
If Walt got a Maverick award, yeah, that would be pretty cool.
Okay.
I know what you're going to say.
I have an outside shop, but he's a shu-win.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Well, I live in Jersey, though.
So I wouldn't.
I'm not a shu-win.
Again, though, it's just star-fucking.
They would probably overlook it.
It's just star-fucking when it comes down to it.
You know it is.
What star?
I know a star.
I'm a star?
I'm a star? Yes, he's a star. I'm a star. I'm a star. He's me. I'm a
shining star. And Kevin's been to star. Absolutely. And that's why he gets to dress how he wants and you
got to dress like some fucking monkey. Yeah. I like dressing like he looks like a bell. He gets to give
us a speech. Dunston checks. People were asking for our service. Dustin's also. Dustin's pretty
dumb man. I'm not arguing with
Dustin. Kevin gets to give a long
speech. You got to go through drive
through a window to get your fucking
award. Yeah. Basically right? It's
star fucking. He almost misguided his
awardees Parkingkebs car. I didn't
drive in the Ernie O'Donnell
day. Yeah. What are your Donald's out Kevin's driver?
I mean, he drove him there, so yeah, about full time.
I mean, are you willing to go on the record
to saying Ernie is Kevin's full time driver now?
I mean, amongst other things, yes.
Wow.
He is.
No wonder we're not getting awards.
We don't we drive ourselves for the people of the people.
Yeah. I mean, I can imagine I was like, Hey,
let's give Tom Steve Danes a huge award in the community, but let's do a Google search.
And Brian Johnson, NJ dot com. Pictures of me with two middle fingers.
Yeah. What's this? Did that. all that would weigh in on them, given the
word you think? I mean, you know, in 223 and, you know, this
woke society. Oh, he made a joke. We don't like, let's not
give him an award. Oh, here we go. We don't. What about you,
Jeff? You're not so super ball. What's that? What about you,
judging them not so super ball? I was what about
it? We're prancing around around in a in a speed of
What's more maverick like than making jokes that aren't that popular in the moment?
That's a fucking maverick right there. They should give me an award on that piece on that alone. You do have a point
Thank you. Did they do a Google search on you that they do a background
Yeah, I know all about your heal fetish and shit
Wearing under-roos
Hey, I'm that at least I'm not creating my wife. I casino and see through shit
So
Look at her
You're the reddit troll. He's the reddit troll who wrote that fucking post
Oh, I got thank you counsel over the place
My friend
Yeah, you guys stop doing that shit. That's what's costing us awards man
He's a one way to press the each Yeah, keep the me doing that shit. That's what's costing us awards man. You're one more.
I'm gonna press each.
Yeah, you keep me from getting some hardware.
Okay.
All right, next time I go to the casino, she's in a fucking Berka.
All right.
All right. All right.
I don't get you.
I brought points as well.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Wait a lot.
No, that's not that.
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Not anyone.
You guys just get what we have.
I was wrong. I was wrong. I told you I was ashamed of the way I behaved last week.
It was beyond pathetic and I want to offer an apology for, you know, my harsh words and
criticism of you.
I wholeheartedly accept your...
I'm waiting from the flip flop, another three seconds.
I accept your apology.
That's what a man does.
You know, and I know that sometimes being a man is hard,
but that should be recognized, maybe, with an award.
The man award for all time.
I apologize, and not, you know,
not sticking to your guns. Who likes to apologize? Apologizing means you fucked up. So nobody likes it.
Nobody likes it, but it's healthy though. It doesn't mean you fucked up. Keep your ground up.
Keep your ground up. Well, you fucked up. Same thing. Same thing. Don't. Not really. It sure is.
I mean, you're the worst at it as well apologize. Oh my god
He's terrible has he ever apologize? I don't know he'll apologize
But in a way that sarcastic well, he's the he's a kind of guy. He's like they might say I'm wrong
But I'm not right. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, he isn't
Very very reluctant to ever admit that he's wrong in anything.
He will go through hoops to show you articles from like 1990 that he saved and photos to anything
to try to avoid just saying, you know, I was wrong, I apologize.
Do you agree with that, Kenam?
Or do you think that's an unfair assessment of you?
It's not, it's, it's in the middle.
It's it's, it's, it's not quite true,
but it's also not quite false.
I don't know what that means.
Could you expand that for me?
I don't wanna take wall tacitizations of face value,
but I shouldn't.
Yeah, I wanna hear, I wanna hear what you would take on it.
Well, like, you know, I do have like articles that like support my it. Well, I do have articles that support my stance,
so I mean, that's not wrong,
but it doesn't necessarily mean I'm right,
but it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm wrong.
I just meant about the apology thing,
not about you being really wrong.
I don't like to apologize.
I guess I don't like to apologize,
and some people don't take my apologies
as being serious even though they are
I would like to hear this speech though. I know you got it. I know it's in your phone. Let's do
Don't you want to be an opportunity to get no red? I don't know. I got like that. Oh,
Salmon colored I'm not right. I like that. Oh, I hope you think going on. You are all like salmon colored. I'm not right. I'm swimming upstream. Yeah. Why are you so reluctant?
I'm gonna be to spawn this guy. I'm not red. Let me
You have a forum that's prime to hear it. Your ears are like a different shade of pink right now. You're so nervous. Who's that fucking hats on so tight?
shade of pink right now. You're so nervous. Who's that fucking hat's on so tight?
Well, that's what I miss. I miss that good hair.
Love me. I love me.
Jen's hair. The best hair. I wish I had me in Jen hair.
Trying to keep up with you guys.
You're like, I hear the stupid speech.
Yeah, I want to hear it.
I want to hear it.
It was like right up on his phone to begin with.
It's sad.
If you don't, if you don't deliver it, it's sad that like you go up there and you're ready
to talk and they're like, all right, thanks.
And here's an opportunity.
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I mean, who else is offering you the chance to read the speech? Nobody want to hear
what? I thought I was getting away with not having to give the speech. Oh, you didn't
want to really. No, not really. I mean, you know, like you said, it's, you know, go
up get the award, no one wants to hear the speech. We do. Of course you guys do. I'm sure Kevin does too, if you're
flaking on the whole time.
I pretty much am.
Sorry.
It's like that scene in police academy.
You really want to hear this thing?
Of course we do.
I have a week to be asking you if we don't want to hear it.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Thank you everybody for this award. I wanted to thank Mom with Arts for bestowing this huge honor on me.
First of all, I want to congratulate them on 50 amazing years.
50 years.
I'm hoping the award make it better for you.
Easier for you?
Oh, it's in the box right there.
Yeah, I mean, I brought the award.
Oh, wow. He just did that to rub it in my face.
You really did.
You just pointed here to rub it in our face.
Of course I did.
That's a beautiful award.
That was a good one.
And I hold it in our case.
Of course, yes.
Wait, but do you think I should treat it like the Stanley Cup?
I don't touch it until I have actually won.
I mean, I didn't bring white clothes with me.
So yeah, go ahead and think it's bad luck if I touch it.
No, if you touch it, it means, you know,
you manifest that you may be able to hold it one day
So what does it say on it? Well?
It really looks like a giant butt plug it does
We got it. It looks like the tears
It looks like I mean I'm talking about if it was smaller. Yeah
That would be one that could get an air right or it looks like the tear of someone who wasn't like the deliver their speech
It's maverick award, Ming Chen.
Yes, it's made out of the tiers all the people didn't win it.
So, it is shaped like a tier of the other.
These are my tiers that made this.
Or if you put it on all the side, it looks like something that would swim right into Ming's
mouth.
Look at that tail.
Is this why we're not getting awards?
Yes.
This kind of rival humor.
I don't know.
So how do we conduct ourselves?
Like, how do we change?
Don't put it away.
Look at that bone out.
It's just hard.
But how do we change course now to try to win in a word?
Like, we can't make jokes like that.
You're saying.
I mean, it doesn't.
It doesn't help.
So what should we be talking about?
You think?
And honestly, give us constructive criticism.
I mean, you can uplift the community.
Maybe. I know you've been helping local businesses.
Is that engaging to the audience though?
If we just keep talking about what we've done for the community.
Absolutely.
Really, you think that people will turn in.
Yeah. How many people have you helped out?
How many people have you inspired? That's what people will turn in. Yeah, how many people have you helped out? How many people have you inspired?
That's what people want to hear is just us blowing ourselves pretty much. Yeah
You really think our audience the TSD and want to hear us just
I don't know if I want to hear us try
That's absolutely not what they want. So no, I mean you're gonna change you're gonna change everything just to win awards now.
Well, just one.
This one, then we can go back to being our awful selves.
I guess that podcast award that I did in the basement gave to you.
We didn't get in a dinner.
We didn't get any salmon or what was for.
Primerid, you know, Primerid, my, my, yeah.
Maybe we got to start our own award show, well.
I had an idea a long time ago for a live award show called the Tess D's, where it's
not just for us.
It's for like, what's up?
The Dundies?
Pretty much.
Yeah, pretty much the Dundies.
The Tess D's, where it's not just for the three of us, but like, we do get awards.
We would definitely get an award.
Not only a group award, but an award for
each of us. Okay, okay. We could spray paint some potpiles. There's no trophy. Oh, there are so
many ants who work for trophy shops that we would have an unlimited amount of people offering their
services if we were going to do a pot. I ask you we got a bowling alley right here. It is there is there something hollow about giving yourself an award though
because no, I know more hollows you can. I mean, everything's a circle jerk with differences in
me. Come on, there are some awards that are not though that are much more meaningful than maybe
Which ones like the pulse the Pulitzer and Noble pride sure, but that's like when never getting one of those
You know surely you know that what do they give that out for I think like significantly helping like the course of humanity
If I were to if I'm trying to answer something. Literature. If I were to have rounded up all the emails I get about how TSD helps people, I could make
something that makes the encyclopedia Britannica look like a fucking pamphlet.
That's powerful.
It is unbelievable how many people say we help.
But like why not?
What difference?
So it makes a difference to you whether it's an award
that you make for yourself or someone else gives it to you.
Because somebody else did it.
I didn't design a award.
I didn't go pick it up.
I didn't pay for it.
You have somebody else's approval too.
It's like somebody else is like,
hey man, this guy's worthwhile.
Like it's tough to keep telling yourself
that you're worthwhile giving yourself a worth of shit
with the nobody else recognizing it.
What if we threw the tazis right and had an audience
choice award. And then it's like then they'll the ants
were born on it will vote. I got to imagine you win. And then
I don't even that one. There's no hope of me ever winning any
other one. And that one. We have our own Maverick award.
I do love the aboling alley idea.
Yeah.
I do that is.
Having an SABOLA.
TSD, like that is a party of fantasies.
Mm.
Just screams TSD to have it in the party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good chili fry here.
Yeah, I agree.
Like no big theater, no like Galatite stuff,
but we can dress however we want.
Tom Brady Jersey.
Like, you call the Forkholy Demons Maverick Award.
Oh.
We'll have a bunch of awards,
but that'll be the Maverick Award.
Okay.
All right, we give somebody has to come up
with all the awards then.
How many awards do you want?
How many awards do you want?
10.
I'll come here next week with 10 awards for you.
Okay.
Give this to me. Give it to me, coach. Absolutely. This is like give this to me give it to me coach
You are ball. I'm gonna do I'm gonna go with 10 awards either you're absolutely will not come up with it while driving here next week
Siri what is a list of 10 awards
I can say
Siri what is a list of 10 awards?
Well, we already have we already have two we already have the people's choice
Ants choice and choice and the four-club is a maverick award. Okay, so you only got to come up eight more all right all right I love this easy, but I think you could do more than 10 because you kind of were like like you could award like
You know funniest moment with you know a guest or like that kind of
stuff. Like, I mean, there are people best guest. There are people who have an exciting encyclopedic
knowledge of this show that can definitely go back and remember.
Here are more than we ever get. Curator. Yeah. Groupie. There's, there's a bunch of people.
We get like already the awards economy.. Like we could have Chris Ladondo present
the Ladondo post hall award. No social the social awareness award. We're Ladondo decides
who is who's most socially aware. Yeah. All right. I think I got that one locked down.
SJW award. No, we can't make it seem like a negative. Right. You know, if you want it,
we want to be positive. I'm sure. Yeah. This is going to be a big night for us. You don't even dress whatever you want.
I will. Get pants, baby. Yeah. That's what you have to wear. I got plenty of those. Yeah,
tuxedo t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got no wardrobe department. I like this. This awards
ceremony in and of itself is a maverick. It's a maverick. I'll film it all, put it on Patreon.
Yeah. And then give the big, put it on Patreon. Yeah.
And then give the big middle finger
to the mom of thoughts.
Right?
Right?
No, I can't.
I can't.
Tell them that that's not,
that's something we shouldn't do, right?
Well, I mean, that's not,
that's not the,
shouldn't put it in anybody's faces, right?
Well, not their faces.
You can just celebrate,
you can watch someone else's face.
When I'm putting down somebody else.
What happens is we get it out there
We get it out there. I don't give the middle finger
We get it out there that there was an award ceremony
We want all these awards then they'll take notice who are these guys who are these young mavericks
I'm writing these awards that we have down so far. All right. I like this. I'll keep in touch with you this week
I'll come up with some with you should do one for a for a listener too, like one who spreads the most, like goodwill amongst the community events.
Okay.
That's a tough one.
We have a lot of really good ambassadors.
Yeah, and you know, but like maybe the curator,
if he wins and I'm not saying he's a show
and I'm not saying he has my vote, he does,
but maybe he would even come down
from Georgia to accept the award.
Okay, good.
All right.
Like the Pharemone Award,
because that's how he ends like spread with Pharemones.
Ooh.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
All right.
I guess you all have on celebrity presenters.
Or the Sunday chef.
Max Paul.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, yeah, well,
it'll make it a big event.
Wow, I like this.
All right.
We'll rent, you know, those portable spotlights
that again we can put in the parking lot.
Oh, yeah, you don't just get them with some flashlight.
Oh, yeah.
You know, it looks like it works at an airport.
What was it?
Airplaza.
Airplaza.
Airplaza.
All right, so what do I got so far?
We got people's choice, the Ladondo Social Awareness,
the four-call team and Maverick Award.
What else do we say?
Maybe there's an award for some of the people who work
on our projects, you know, like the the the VA view the video and audio crew technical
words that we that we give away before the event starts that what that aren't filmed.
Excellence in editing.
Excellence in editing They just flashed by the screen really quick
There's a lot of potential here, but it could cost us a
Fortunnel with the little thing. No, not the way we do things. No, I don't think it'll I think we could do it
Cost effectively and then we turn around and put on patreon it's we got like a brother
Huge thing we get like a little brother P touch and do the labels for all the trophies
Yeah, and then so if anybody out there
I know there are plenty of ants who work for trophy shops
semi-an-email and
you know, I guess we'll have a you could bid for the
for the
You know the job, you know who could come in out the lowest bid
It's gonna get the gig of
low speed. It's going to get the gig of a give a quick.
I don't know what the purveyors trophy is
falling apart.
Presently.
The purveyors trophy. It's not the
fault of the person who sent that in.
It's because we trotted around everywhere.
We do bring it around in the back of my car for like weeks.
Now I take a turn.
When I take a turn, it goes flying.
Yeah. So if it looks like it went through hell,
it's because it has because it's's been well-traveled.
No, Ming, this award, you yourself
to read the rest of your...
Yeah, I guess so, I guess I can get away with it.
I think this award did you post a picture of it
on your Instagram?
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
Holding it, of course.
Where does it live when it comes?
I've all, like a Curial cabinet at home.
At home, yeah.
What the Mrs. say.
When you came with me me she actually came on pop
He came
But I what did she give me on what did she think when you told her you're when the award?
She why of course she was like wait, what is this? I can't wait to hear your speech. She never said that
You guys really alone saying that I thought I could get away with it. Go ahead
Thank you my with our Congratulations on 50 amazing years.
I have to admit, when I, when I,
when they told me about this award,
they sent it to me in an email,
and I thought it was spam.
I ignored it.
I thought there was in any possible way
that anyone would be giving an award,
me an award, much less one called the Maverick Award.
Humble.
Finally, after about five or six emails that I ignored, I basically got one going, hey,
listen, do you want this thing or not?
Because if you don't, we'll give it to a lesser comic book man, like Mike Sapsick.
Oh, was he there?
He wasn't there.
His brother was so, so I knew it would get back to him.
So finally, I realized this thing was real,
and I replied, and I couldn't be more honored
and gracious to accept this award.
Hold on real quick.
Had that go over in the room that they know
you were talking about?
I didn't, there was no speech.
Oh, that's right.
Oh yeah.
This is the room.
Gracious or grateful, you said.
You couldn't be more grateful.
Grateful, okay.
Gracious, grateful, whatever. grateful whatever well tune from words go ahead
It's hard to accept an award called the Maverick award without giving a shout out to the man who taught me to be a Maverick
He's here in this room today
One point or give big shout out to Kevin Smith
the the guy who got to me to where I am today
For anybody who doesn't know, I got in touch with Kevin
and contacted Kevin because I started a fan website way back in 1995. This is a website. I built
basically by stealing a bunch of content that I pulled off of a laser disk and put it online so
everybody else could see it. And when he found the website, he sent me an email,
which basically said, hey, here's my number, call me tomorrow.
And at first I got excited.
I was like, the man, I got in contact with him.
But then the more I thought about it, I was like, wait,
maybe I forgot about a little thing called copywriting law,
which in my country doesn't exist.
So I thought it was okay.
Sure, I've definitely had the laughs and applause to this.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I forgot a little bit of the names.
I forgot a little bit of the things about copyright laws.
So I thought, sorry, man.
That's it.
I knew.
Alright, alright, that was until the rest.
I wanna hear it.
I'm in trouble.
Yeah. I was wondering if I want to hear it. I'm in trouble. Yeah.
I was wondering if I had to set my computer on fire
throughout the window.
Luckily, next day I called Kevin and done
instead of telling me to remove everything,
telling me that I was violated copyright,
I could easily send me a season to assist.
He hired me instead.
So if that's not the definition of a Maverick,
I don't know what is.
A Maverick is someone who creates freely and without rules
and that's what me and Kevin do today
through the art of podcast.
Me and Kevin now.
There you go.
Hey man, I gotta drop the names.
He won the Maverick award, not Kevin.
He walked out of that room with just as many awards as Kevin did.
He did. And just as much of a Maverick as Kevin is. Yeah. According to them.
So I want to tell everybody sitting here to go out, do something, keep doing everything that you
love doing, especially the arts, definitely go for it. Go out there and be a Maverick. Also,
answer your freaking emails. Good night, everybody.
Thank you for this award. All right, Mick. Now, if you had that speech ready and I said,
let me punch it up for you. Yes. And then read it blind when you go up there. Would you trust me?
No, but I would let you do it. Yeah, I heard about your best man speech.
You made the mistake once already.
I've learned.
This is five.
I've never heard that story before.
Oh, she had it.
Because Frank is officiating a wedding.
Right.
And we are out to dinner with the Franks.
And Deb said, don't make any jokes about the groom being on methadone and having to have kicked
heroin and and Mary's face was so bewildered and she goes, oh, you don't know. Oh, you never heard
about what he said at my wedding. She was like shocked. Why it was Mary's. No? It was Mary was shocked.
No, no.
Mary was shocked that he said that.
Even in retrospect, I'm gonna look back and I'm like,
I'm shocked.
Yeah, it's funny.
Yeah, Frank's a little nervous about it.
Oh, yeah.
It should be.
I gave him some advice though.
I hope it'll help him.
You know, he's a...
Get him is a...
is recognized by New Jersey as somebody who can marry people.
And what do you say it's government?
At your success rate is... is it at 25 percent?
Yeah. 25 percent.
What do you think is success rate?
Well, that are still married.
That are still marriages that he officiated.
Wait, how many? How many?
Three. I'm done for.
When has he done these?
In the 90s, right?
No
2000s. Yeah, like the 2000s through 2000 like 15
And why did people ask you to do it?
One was it was a very good friend of mine. She needed to get married to her husband so they could get base housing
And so I did that ceremony
You need to like why not you don't need to reveal that.
You could just be like, it was a good, very good friend of mine.
And move on.
Yeah.
You were wet out of necessity.
Another one was a friend of one of my exes.
Poor scammers.
Need to get a green card.
OK.
Another was a friend of mine of my exes.
Why did they turn to you, do you think?
Because my ex recommended me me why do you think she
recommended you you put a lot of thought in time into it I actually got you and you don't charge
your feet right I charged dinner oh my god so basically free yeah so they got to feed me and or give
me you know food and drink yeah yeah yeah depending on the like the venue and uh were they happy
with the ceremonies oh yeah they were very well Yes, okay. Yeah, there was a listener who
showed up here and proposed to his gal at the General Store and they want to have the wedding here and get him was gonna
Efficient it really but I got I got sick and she was sending me all these emails like we're ready to do this
We're ready to do this and I wasn't answering anything at that point
Yeah, I could like I thought I was an award fucking. It was like I'm dying fucking. I don't give anything at that point. I thought I was done. Was it an award? I was like, I'm dying.
I'm fucking, I don't give a fuck about your wedding.
Right now, I'm literally dying, I think.
So I figure it out.
But yeah, I thought that would have been sweet though.
You don't get them.
I'm sharing the wedding here in the general store.
I would have come to that.
I went through my archive. I found all my wedding books and mailing them off to Frank Frank. Yeah, Frank is so cheap
He wouldn't buy the diploma that he's supposed to have the paperwork
Really? He registered on one. No, it's not free. All the paperwork. You know is a
$35 yeah, but it's like it's just this certificate like with all the, you know,
it's a whole package you get. I think it's a two for the marriage license to make sure you're legally married.
I fucking, I married, I married Brian and I don't remember signing.
Mary Beth. No, you eventually did the, the wedding planner fucked up and didn't have them sign it.
Didn't have you signed it. Remember I had to actually bring it to you.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
So you weren't legally married the night you defloward her.
I know.
I know her parents are still pissed about it.
Oh, but you were going crazy.
You were going crazy.
You were going to hold the boy sheet outside the bed.
Dude, I thought I was good to go.
But legally, though, you know, you were living in synth for until BQ signed that
BQ signed it, yeah, and long before that too.
I actually did, I didn't get to do it because I was like, it's gonna make too much of a mess,
but I did bring a sheet with me and I had red food dye with the carousel.
And I was, I was gonna hang it out the window, but I'm like, I'm gonna get it all over
everything and it's just they're not gonna be happy
But I gotta say I said you played it safe on your wedding, but I'm mine. You're just like he's on heroin everybody
So disappointed when I heard that Deb wanted you to yell something and then you didn't do it
I was like oh, he should have done it. It would have been great
He wanted you to she wanted you to say something like yell tell them Steve Dave at the end or something
I think she wanted to say also make the some bizarre out of left field.
He's on heroin.
People would have believed him.
He's on heroin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very much.
I know.
We all know.
Yeah.
We're doing it anyway.
He promised he'll get better.
Yeah.
I think I got him here.
So should we be making jokes like that, Ming-no?
Like that?
At the awards ceremony?
No, no, just in general on our podcast.
There's that two mean?
I mean, as long as there are being mean to each other,
I mean, because I know that one.
Oh, that's okay, yeah.
That's okay, that's okay.
It's really like hard to navigate.
And it's hard.
And it's hard.
It's helping to erase the stigma.
Well, the rules are constantly changing.
You don't know what you can say when you can say it. Oh, the shit that you couldn't say last week? It's fine to erase the stigma. Well the rules are constantly changing. You don't know what you can say when you can say it
Oh, the shit that you couldn't say last week. It's fine to say it today
But like it's hard though like in the world where you're trying to garner awards though
You're it's a minefield
No because you know, I you want to say you still have
Content that people want to listen to but you don't want to have
content though that's mean though. Right. And punch is down. It's tough to find
line. It is. That's it for off the air. When we're hanging out and all we do is
punch down. Yeah. I think it's okay. Arm's hurt. It was punching down. I think you
guys are fine making fun of each other
But you know once you just no line that we can cross when we're talking about about each other
I mean punching side something that you just made up no, I've said it in interviews about a practical joke is for years
You coined it though. I doubt I coined it. That's really good. I never heard it before. It's a word worthy
But so is there a line that we can be honest though I've heard it before. It's a border worthy. That's right. That's right. That's right.
But so is there a line that we can,
be honest though, is there a line we can cross
we're making fun of each other?
And like you, as some of you comes in,
as you haven't been here in quite a while,
right?
You would not be up for the same treatment then as us three.
Like you need to be treated differently,
with more kid gloves as a guest.
What have you treated me with kid gloves?
Well, I'm trying to be a little bit more,
like, you know, like, mean, like a maverick.
Right.
Like, that's what I was talking about.
What are the rules?
I was talking about the treatment.
I had to mirror every moment.
I was talking about a porcelain doll.
Right?
Yeah. A porcelain, a giant? A china doll, if you will.
Like a Ming-A-Dolce.
I thought that would be very, you know, that'd be a misstep, right, in the eyes of
Mom with County Arts, if I were to call you a china doll.
I think a china doll is an art, it's like a, but I thought it'd take you to a china
doll offensive.
Like David Bowie song.
China girl.
I mean, how about it like a Ming vase?
Oh, oh, okay.
Yeah, if I treat you like a delicate flower,
I should be very.
Like a little pussy.
Well, don't do that.
See, you're giving me mixed messages, man.
He doesn't want you in competition.
Oh, yeah.
I was really worried about you guys.
I will look at him.
I'm constantly checking my river,
mirror, mirror, guys.
We're in your fucking blind spot.
I learned from the math yesterday.
They're not gonna see me.
If we wanna keep it like free of laughs,
free of any of that kind of stuff,
I'm gonna go back and study some Mike and Ming shows
from back in the day.
That's step one, yeah, for sure.
So you're telling me in your whole history of podcast
and with Mike, you don't have any content that you're
like, man, I hope nobody ever hears that. Don't be specific.
It should be every show. What are you talking about?
There we go again.
There's something that you, that you're like, boy, if they knew about that, this award would
be in smoke. I'm sure I've said many things I've regretted and I've been totally forgot about so you say you are admitting right here right now that you're not this squeaky clean
I never said I was they gave it to they gave an award to a guy who espoused pot for over a decade
So surely there's not I don't think there's anything Ming has done that's worse than that right?
What do you mean because you your feelings are that?
They overlooked that oh yeah, what that what that, right? What do you mean? Because your feelings are that they overlooked that?
Oh yeah.
I don't think that's a big deal.
It's legal, Nick.
It's very easy.
Well, now that it's legal, but I mean,
if you're looking for a squeaky clean image,
that's certainly not squeaky clean, right?
Right.
And they can't even afford to be retroactively taken back.
Oh, I'm sure they can.
So if you want to start a petition,
Oh, like, like, like, Miss America, change.org.
It's not digging up dirt on me now.
You're gonna have to listen all those Mike and Ming show episodes
of Dr. Dirt.
I'd rather you get the award.
Is it worth it?
Ming-Chen is the next Vanessa Williams.
All the sporting shows.
Oh, like, what happened to all the sporting shows?
Well, they're just, they're gone.
It's like, they're in a landfill with, uh, a Atari video games and Funko gone. It's like they're in a landfill with a Atari video games and funcompoms.
Yeah, they're in a landfill in El Magordo, New Mexico.
But where did they go?
They're completely gone.
They're spin scrubbed from the internet.
I don't know.
I have no control.
Where owns them?
You don't have copies of all the old masters.
I have them somewhere, but you know, those are the...
Those were, I remember them as being some very solid shows
That probably shouldn't see the light of day again. There was some stuff in there that we were that was back in the
The wild days of
No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about I'm talking about the morning shows that we did when Kevin took a break
No, no, no, not the ones that I'm the curator has the ones we were on. Okay guys were on talking about the the
Fucking infinite episodes that you guys did that are no longer on
the internet.
That's just yours.
Mike and Ming, they've been scrubbed from the internet.
Oh really?
Yeah, like no one can find them.
Yeah, the old small nature.
There's somewhere out there.
There's literally thousands of episodes.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know about thousands hundreds for sure.
At least 500, right?
I don't know about 500, 400, 300 maybe.
Gone.
Just gone.
Nobody can access them now.
You know what I mean?
You're set on a gold mine of fucking content
that people will pay top dollar for.
If you release it in a box set.
Yeah, an anthology.
Like, like, like, Led Zeppelin,
and like, kids.
Like, when people are like,
like, they misuse the term gaslighting,
this is being used correctly right there.
But no, if you promote it as like, you know,
scrub from the internet, find out why these episodes
are nowhere to be found, you know, you really play up
the game.
What the Mama's Arch didn't want you to be.
Can I come in and come in and trash can?
Because that's exactly what they belong.
Oh. Oh, punch down asshole. Oh, sideways, sideways. Can I come in a good way to trash can exactly what they belong?
Punched out asshole
I can take it from him actually yeah, he is punching up
No, where else the plug? He can't punch down. It's impossible All right now we got to make sure get him gets an award
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dot dot dot. Who's dick did you suck? For the award or for the award to get on the cruise? Or
you got to be more specific, man. Yeah, it's my pleasure to to get on the cruise or really get a bit more specific man.
Yeah, it's my pleasure to have you on the cruise but.
Speaking of comic shops though, do you still have an ownership in Golden Sword?
Coral Sword.
Yes.
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Gaming huh?
Gaming. Oh gaming gaming
My mistake
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When are we playing TSD and D?
I heard them talking about it last night.
All right, I'm talking to a really chomping at the bid here.
Our dungeon master was here last night,
and I told him that you're chomping at the bid
and you want to be an elf warrior.
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What you got to do is email me free Sundays or Mondays in November or because I
think October is pretty much done here.
Alright guys, I know you're going away but in November then.
Let me put that on my to-do list.
Yeah, I told him he's writing up a little script right now as you as the elf warrior.
Great. Yeah, I told him he's writing up you as a little script right now as you as the elf warrior great
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And there's only one way to do it. Let's go to patreon.com slash tell them Steve Dave and sign up all far more than money.
We're far more than money.
You know, there's so many new shows on there.
We've we've launched ice I sold comics sold comics.
But Ming Chen is a cast member.
What did you get any feedback for any?
Yeah, everyone loves it.
I know but any blowback from anybody.
I haven't heard.
No, I haven't heard. I'm sure it's gone back to nobody. It was like with the
fuck or not that I've heard. I have used it. Have you seen any of the old guys, any of the old?
Not in a while. No. Not in a while. So, one's the last time you're in the store.
Not maybe like a month ago. Okay. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Okay.
And now, if you are going to sign up
for patreon, make sure you do it. Not at the end of the month, but at the beginning of the month.
Because otherwise it charges you again at the beginning of the month. You stupid fuck we almost
double charged them. I'm trying to look at everyone's doing well. I haven't seen anybody in close to
two years. Yeah. I believe everyone's doing a well. Nice.
Yeah, businesses where they ask about me.
I that, no, I haven't heard.
Anybody who did there, since so.
How often do they talk about them during the day?
Like multiple times per day.
I'm sure everyone was here.
Yeah, man, we miss walking here.
Oh, they did some good old days.
I don't know.
I don't know, I haven't been there.
I do miss them.
It's nice to hear that they miss me too.
Yeah. He never really said that.
You talking about the stash? Yeah. Yeah. You said nobody misses him. No, that's what I. Yeah. Oh, you're being
Oh, I think he's been a maverick. No, I haven't heard. I haven't heard. Oh, that chair. That's awkward. I don't miss them either.
That's awkward because I just said I missed them too. But you were being phony, so it's okay.
No, no, I wasn't being phony.
I do miss them.
Keep going, it's how you win awards.
Keep going.
Keep going.
I'm on the right track.
You're on the right track.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I missed those guys dearly.
You the old guy.
Well, who is there from the old gang?
It's just Sunday Jeff, right?
Oh, and Johnny and Mike.
Oh, Johnny, I forgot about Johnny.
A carol.
My house carol, Dylan, I miss her.
You know, I don't know what I'm sure she's fine
Sure she's fine. I'm a tough mom. If I just gonna hear this we are gonna get an award
Academy award
We got to get together for launch or something. Yeah, definitely before the year. You know, I'll join you for that retouch
You know, just can you pass that on to me? No, I'll join you. I'll join you for long job Pass there. I'll join please
Maybe we can invite her to our
This is what this fucking chasing the words is hard shit. I know right?
So now you can admit I
Fucking sweat
I don't have to ask Walt this question
I don't have to ask Walt this question. Is he any closer to an award?
Probably, maybe a millimeter.
Don't tell me y'all that fucking is out the window.
It's not for nothing.
No, no, no, no, no.
You use a P word, your progress.
For a brother, he's like pussy.
You know what I'm saying?
I got a father's that been my friend, the will,
there is that too.
And act like a fucking,
yeah, just show us your badge.
We'll give you an award.
I can't believe how much fun
it is having me here, man.
I've missed having you.
It's, he's my favorite guest.
And we've had some good guests
in Terry really like when we're,
I didn't get him a guest.
I just,
I'm a consider him part of the show
and it's been so long.
Well, when they did the, when they did the kiss stuff, I mean, you were't consider my guest. I just want to consider him part of the show. And it's been so long. Well, when they did the, when they did the kiss stuff,
I mean, you were the fourth guy, right?
When they, when they, when Kevin,
Kevin, Kevin do a kiss.
With the rocker roll over patch.
Yeah, the patch.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I didn't have to be put on there.
I don't know who put that on there.
Kevin, Kevin did.
Oh, he did.
Okay, well, great.
Thanks, Kevin.
I was on there too.
So you were also like, like an unofficial fourth man.
Yeah, I guess.
You Hitler, Gidham.
Yeah, I have a great company.
You're a great company.
Wow.
What are you up to?
Like, what is the days?
What is the days?
And how you filling your life these days?
Weekdays running in three studios.
Yeah.
Name the addresses.
Yeah, like, let's get up.
It was got one in Red Bank, two blocks from
Janssen Bob's Secret stash, a shared universe.
One over in Bellworks,
over at Homedale, and one in the the basement of the Mammoth Mall.
What?
Mammoth Mall still goes from him.
You hear about that?
You're in the Mammoth Mall?
Yeah.
That's fucking...
He's the last guy in the Mammoth Mall.
He's talking about knocking down, but yes.
Right, but so that is fucking...
Yeah, the dream when I was growing up was like to have a spot in the mall
And you did it. Yeah, dude. I was wrong even in the basement
Even in the oh, it's not you can't walk in I was not like he's subterranean
Burger King and the chick flay and the other song
Yeah, but it came to an elevator and it takes you down
No, there's a staircase
One of our clients got a job down there,
and they turned out to be a secret studio down there.
They were hybrid radio?
Yeah, you don't have to give me figures.
Okay.
There are peace, but how are you able to fucking float
three locations so close to each one another
and still make it work?
You know, how do you float that many,
that many months?
That doesn't borrow money from me for lunch.
I don't far enough away that, you know,
they don't compete with each other.
Red bank eating town and that was a little closer,
but you know, it's, they're all within like 20 minutes.
Yeah, that's, that's seemingly,
it's, I would think that's rather close to another,
but how do you,
but hey, you come in 20 minutes from Belmari,
you're gonna hit the mall, you're coming 20 minutes from Belm are you going to hit the mall or you're coming
20 minutes from Ridge, you're going to hit Bellwood, but it works out then at two people
want to record a podcast at the same time.
They can each go to a different studio.
Right.
That's true.
Okay.
But how do you float those monthly nuts?
Three of them.
I make deals here and there.
How do you juggle those nuts?
I make deals and we help, we help everybody else.
I was about to say, I was about to tag up on that
I want to fuck them on it. I'm not gonna tag up on it. It's influencing them like the shining
See me it was like my neck fuck I could see yeah, I was like your eyes changed and you open your mouth a little bit
I'm waiting for him to grab it and call it as precious No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yes, I do so wow, I would still I would still invest that's still look to be an investor amazing all right
Yeah, we've said that before though, and you've never 51%
No, what kind of percentage you want it would you be interested to start out with?
It's like to like dragonstan. You know, I'm a shark tank shark tank. I'm I'm part of Joe de roses
Sandwich shop, Joe. I'm really it's pretty worthy investment rate place. Joey roses
And I wish I was more of an owner. I think I'm like a low percentage. And you're getting the you're seeing a return on your
investment monthly. You know, I got a sandwich the other day. I had a couple
sandwiches. That was pretty good. But it's a great bar. Okay.
Then I part-owner there. But, but so I don't know. So I, I, I, I, I wouldn't want to be like, I don't want to have a voice in the
say, but I want to feel like, you know, I, I own so I don't want like one
person like your picture on the wall, maybe something just, yeah, something.
You know, I don't want to be a 1% owner.
That's like, just if you're told see how, how it goes though, right?
Well, how would you figure that, man? Like Like how would you figure if you have him invest?
It's like you invest X amount of dollars that gives you how much percentage of the company
And then what if he starts bossing your own and shit? I'll figure that out. I mean
Keep the investors happy. Yeah, investors happy. All right. Yeah, you know photo up on the wall. Yeah, no problem
Yeah, yeah, welcome to my podcast studio. Yeah
You know, photo up on the wall. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, yeah, welcome to my podcast studio. Yeah
That hook nuts. Nice guy shared universe over the world. That was it an amicable. Yeah, I was pretty amicable
It seemed like it was Mike being like I don't want to do this anymore Are you being like I want to keep doing this? Oh, yeah, pretty much
Yeah, I mean listen
He's working full time the story you know. Yeah, you know how many hours that takes in the day
How hard it is and and yeah, you know, Kevin doesn't sleep. So he's constantly needing something. So
yeah, really, Kevin doesn't sleep and he needs something. What could it be? Bring me a soda.
I mean, I need to write somewhere. He calls upon Mike to do it when he's, he gets over
the store, but, you know, you know, you know, you don't just do one job when you work with
Kevin. You work, you know, you're doing seven things at the same time. Right Mike, Jen's in LA, I'm just saying.
Juggle these nuts.
Oh fuck.
Come on, he's back.
He's been back like five times during the sufficient alone.
I did want to ask you guys I'm almost positive almost positive. I know Walt's answer, but I see this in movies and TV all the time
Where guys stand next to each other while taking a piss and talking ever done it never get them not that I know
Hugh just a urinals. No, not at your animals. Like the woods. Yeah, like you pull over to the side of the road
And like you're fucking like each other right? Yeah yeah I never understood that like Mary Beth asked me the other
dishes like do guys really do that I said absolutely not to my knowledge I don't know anybody who
stand any guy who stands like a foot away from what's that yeah I remember at the
where we're going to a devil's game and we're on the way back right someone had to go real bad
and I was like you know what I'll go to and you when we weren't back to back or side to side, but we were within...
S-the-S talking. We were within conversation distance where we had a conversation while I was going on.
Yeah? Yeah. That's okay. Yeah, we were like, I still can't believe the devil's one that
game. Something along those lines, we're just talking about the game while fixing. You're on such a
high. It doesn't even know. Yeah yeah I couldn't even see his dick it was
dark got you yeah but like you you were was a Sunday no wasn't Sunday Tim
Hill that's how did him not wait a minute that's okay for you to say that
why make that like just throw Timmy's name out there and slander him like that
slander you guys are pissing next to each other
It wasn't Timmy though. You just said it now everybody thinks it was Timmy
Just that was said in just it wasn't mean spirits
They're really gonna think it once I cut out you saying it wasn't Timmy
How is that not me? I could have been Kevin. I could have been Kevin. I could have been you know
Yeah, good win any point. Well you just you said you said Timmy Hill cuz Timmy Hills a
Devils fan. Yeah, you guys went to games together and get into games together
I'm sure you're in H. Yes, right?
If it's on the side of the road illegally
I'm just trying to figure it out because I wouldn't think that it would be cute or
That was a word winning behavior to just throw out someone's name like that. So no potty humor
I don't know. That's what I'm asking you.
Well, so far so good.
They still gave me an award.
I make a potty humor all the time.
We had old TV show based on it.
What, A and what, Compokman?
Yeah.
Well, I'd never worn an award.
And it started when any awards in the future.
Yeah.
Well, that's not the mark of a good TV show. It's one awards.
It's not yet. Let's not start. Have you ever been up? Have you ever been nominated for an
Emmy or you must have submitted? I'm sure. I don't think we've ever submitted. We might have
submitted. We've never submitted. You don't, like, we don't submit on our band. I think true might have but there was for sure was never
like
I like there was never a campaign right AMC submitted for us and yeah every year every year
No, we don't expect that will ever
Winner nemy why would we?
It's good show. I agree. It's not to show that the people in the world are watching.
That wins, I mean, yeah, I want to admit they watch.
It's a fucking this country, man.
Those are in the air.
People are better old.
Oh, you know a lot of people in the Emmys fucking.
No, no, no.
What the hell is this thing?
I hear people.
I don't mean people don't admit.
I just meant I think those smokey mucks. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think those smokey muxy every hours are gonna say that they watch it
You know we had pull rod on there was still like why is he slum and I
Can't recommend this season of murders in the building enough you have Paul Rudd
You have Matthew broader right away. I bet he brings up another show
What happens in the Emmy's discussion? It's awesome, man, but I know you're a big Paul Rudd fan, so when you watch it,
you're gonna really like it.
Yeah, I was waiting for it then.
Yeah, I just ended.
Yeah, he's phenomenal in it.
He's like, he's not a bad guy, he's kind of a prick, right?
He's a real dick.
Yeah, I love it.
He's a real dick.
I like to see him like that.
That's great.
Yeah, back to IJ.
I got a sneak peek at an episode I think premiering this month
with a friend of the family.
And I was really great episode.
On IJ episode?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a certain boy band member that we all know.
Oh, you saw the the photon stuff?
I did.
It was great.
Yeah, it doesn't.
I think because of the strike, they pushed the episode like January.
So, yeah.
Okay.
But the photon episode, we thought we're going to be, we thought there was a chance it was
going to be the series finale.
So we really fucking put our all into it. Yeah, it might be one of it
It's definitely in the top five greatest one the best that I've seen. Yeah, thank you
Yeah, fatelon I believe
I
I want to put his house by a weird series of circumstances is like hey check this out and you put it up on the TV
Yeah, it's really proud of comes with the map. He should be he really fucking delivered
You're out cuz it's like it's like it's amazing you are really proud of comes with the maverick. He really fucking delivered you
shaking your head cuz it's like it's like it's amazing you are hobnobbing with
celebrities yeah
yeah
Major celebrity you're hobnobbing with celebrities winning awards just what are we doing wrong yeah you're you're
fucking amazing and it's it's it was it was so fucking shitty of me not to consider you a maverick when I didn't know that you were out fucking
smoothing with celebs too. Yeah, tough life. It doesn't make them a maverick. Tough life.
It makes them a douchebag.
So what else is going on? What else is going on when you get in the chat?
And conventions on the weekends. I go almost every weekend.
And you hang out with celebrities there too right
Yeah, you know somebody's been hanging out with lately. I don't know
I started walking dead and really
Yeah, Abe Lincoln. What's his name? No Andrew Lincoln and
Andrew Lincoln
I don't think they do
Lincoln
Some of the other characters we get along very well to do that everybody loves with the with the angel wings
Norma Reedus now I haven't seen him in a while either
No, no you're hanging out like third, fourth tier characters.
I like, you know, like Ross Markwan, like the air
and the show is still on.
It's over now.
It's over now, but you've got to still fear the walking
guys.
They've got to spin off now.
Yeah, yeah.
That's why we're not on the air anymore.
My friends, they went and put all the money into that.
How do you address the show going, the shit after the second
season when you're talking to them?
I, I don't, I don't bring it up. I don't bring that up. Oh, wow. That's the positivity. How do you address the show going the shit after the second season when you're talking to them? I
Doesn't I don't bring it up. I don't bring that
That's the positivity. Yeah, you get your awards. It's not there for I got to rethink every move. I've made it my life
Absolutely
You're only telling me now
It's pretty
I remember a young old flat. I'm gonna be like don't do that
I remember a young old flat. I'm gonna be like don't do that
Yeah, they're still fun. They'd love to have you guys back We ever wanted to come back who's day? Oh, you know the people were on the conventions which convention is this?
I mean any of them you keep saying that many never invite me. I'm like always in Maryland
You fucking really
Burn your bridge you burn a lot of bridges. I burned a lot of bridge showing up
Yeah, you started building you started
I was druggy, Brian. Yeah, I can rebuild. Yeah, I'm definitely responsible. Yeah, no, I know I want to just not show up
Yeah, never so come get him in a con. Oh, yeah, for sure
This is great. Absolutely and
No matter where go Alaska Hawaii Dubai, Hawaii, Dubai, always ends.
They were at Dubai.
Dubai, I don't know, man.
Like, what if I meet some hot Dubai chicken
where necking on the beach or something,
next thing you know, I'm in jail for a fucking year?
That could happen.
Oh, no, no.
I can't risk that.
You can get thrown in jail for having an argument
with a worker there.
Oh, with a TSA, right?
No, no, no.
There was a lady held in custody
because she had gotten to an argument with the rental car clerk for a year, right?
It was like something crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
imagine, you know, you don't get burger isn't prepared right?
And you fucking act the way you did.
And you chicken down doors,
lantern and raven. My shorm was under a cook.
That shit doesn't care your man, right?
Like, one of the con chances for a person
who was in like a flea market scene
of like the first episode of comic book then.
Not good, not good.
I don't know, you see some pretty fucking like,
down the like low, low tier characters at these things.
But yes, even lower than me.
I can't believe you like,
you, I, you,
I think your greatest achievements
is extending the small amount of notoriety
that we had for years after the fact
and really like that, you know what?
I'm turned around, he's in Maverick.
Yeah.
I'm turned around, because I sit here
and I think about all the networking you've done,
all the people you've met,
the life that you've carved out for yourself
You did a pretty fucking good job. Thank you. This is what I was saying. I know exactly what I'm saying. I don't listen to you. What what he said?
I do have a question as go away. How soon will the Maverick award appear on one of your
banners for the at a at a con. I mean that's up to the people who are on the cons
But I don't you design your own banners. I do. Yeah, but I don't think Prince of Mars won't I I mean, that's up to the people around the cons. But I don't you design your own banners?
I do, yeah.
I don't think Prince of Mars won't.
I don't think that's gonna make anybody...
That's a local one by a photo.
You don't think Ants are gonna want to come and take a photo with him in that?
Oh, should I bring that with me?
I'd say, they?
Yeah, I would get a replica.
I wouldn't bring a real trophy.
You can sell that like you sell the Brian Quinn 8x10s.
Yeah, yeah, that they sell.
I don't sell those.
I give them to, uh, and identify them.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, well, they, uh, they, they, I had a whole stack of them from that, that kind of,
we all went to, yeah, you're an avagome, that, um, that went out of business.
Right.
Yeah.
Uh, even though I did like, at cons, I would generally like, after they ended, I would run
back to my room and, and I did enjoy traveling with them in like the times that we've gone out.
Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. Very fun. So you know what? Let's talk after we're
after after we're off mic. All right. Look at me. Shocking that thing. He wants it.
Yeah. Well, how much would you sell it to Walt for? I'd award a one night with my name.
Yeah. You know, maybe we could put it on
display at the JTST town general store. You would get a lot of, you get a lot of eyes on it.
You got room here for that? Oh, for this? Yeah. You could throw a crumpy.
Like we could throw a right to fish tank. Like like laser as well.
To see me there. I want about Krope
Motherfucker you think you meet a lot of people
Holy shit man every time I'm a monster that knows though. He he's got to be independently wealthy and just fucking right. No, no, he's he's not independently
Well, how do I mean they it's like every single fuck I mean, and I'm talking people that I'm like who the fuck is this?
Like he had pictures of Odin Kirk and David cross and like I'm like holy shit. That's fucking awesome
No, then they've got pictures with these people that I'm like I like even after I look them up. I still on the right Jamie far
Jamie far for example
Yeah, but look them up, I still on the roof. Jamie Far. Jamie Far, for example. Jamie Far.
But,
well, didn't we bring me into judge on something
to bring the Maverick in?
Yeah, because, yeah.
Did you listen to the episode?
I whole episode.
Which one?
Where we talked about your Maverick.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So, last week, yeah.
So, you heard about what Gidem is up to at the shop right
and the way the Fakres?
Yeah.
And we were brought in because we want to know your take on how he's living his life
and how he could make some changes and do some small things, baby steps, to lead a more
maverick lifestyle.
Okay. To annoy people. Bless, maybe. small things baby steps to bleed a more Mavric lifestyle, okay
To annoy people less maybe
Not to annoy it's just that I don't agree to submit to receive checking
He's got it to keep seeing the prize. I mean people people hate this man people hate this
Some people hate some other. Oh, why has online people been against? I actually driving home that day
I was so why I bet you a lot of people are gonna agree with Gidda, but that has not been the case. No, it's it's for their specific subreddits for
For the man in rights. No, it's just it's for specific people on it's unreasonable. I tell you like find that people now it's just echo chamber
No, no, it's not an echo chamber. It's just you know, it's of course it is a subreddit for only certain people on reddigoo
But you're not naming it as part of the rules. Can't people just click on it?
It's a hidden subreddit.
Yeah.
What do you mean the government can't see it?
I'm sure the government can see it, but normal ready users can see it.
As long as the government can see it, I'm fine with it.
Yeah.
I'm not going to hit here to handing in a receipt, and I want to, I wish a January 6th would
happen again. Could you imagine how many people are online and hidden subreddit boards complaining about
receipts if they're doing it.
They're out there.
They're taking times of their life.
They're dwindling life.
They'll only be alive for a certain amount of time.
And like they're spending their time engaging with him online about about that.
Yes, you're right, get him. Yeah.
So what, but without talking down to him.
Okay.
And you're not making it a joke.
What is your real reactions to somebody who's wasting this many brain cells?
I know he's got a lot of them and he can waste a lot of them.
I mean, self-proclaimed, but yeah.
So self-proclaimed, Paul, the 140, that's not documented.
That's Walt's not documented.
Walt is.
Yeah.
Is it?
I had to take a test for school.
Oh, OK.
We can look this up.
I'm sure it's in my permanent records.
OK.
All right.
OK. Because I was doing so poorly in school, they did.
Here you go.
Because I was doing so poorly in school, they test.
I mean, I do.
Oh, yes.
We've heard this all before.
OK. Yeah.
He's not lying. All right. I mean, you know, you could heard this all before. Okay. Yeah. He's not lying though. All right.
I mean, you know, you could be doing more constructive things with your life, but if
this makes you happy, I don't, is it hurting anybody with the bankrupt seats?
Don't you?
Well, it hurts the people behind them because it's all hell.
This is what it looks like.
So I hand this if they become insistent, I hand it to them.
Okay.
I just keep walking.
This is a legit a scanned fake receipt.
Yes.
And how I just keep you.
I just keep you.
Huh?
How long have you found the online somebody else?
You made that.
A professor made the.
A professor made that.
A professor made.
No, a professor made the thing that's on the back
in that part.
I just added the receipt because when you hand it
to a checker who becomes a little push, you made that.
They. I mean, I really don't see the point, but.
But can't you in this day and age, can't you just sit like one, they're like, can I see
your receipt just say no thanks and keep walking?
I can't chase you.
They can't do anything.
No, that's what I said.
No, it's for when they become push because not a lot of some receipt checkers don't realize
that they don't have the legal authority to stop you.
Or that they, yeah, they don't have the authority to stop you
and they become insistent.
Right.
They think that they're like Colonel Jess,
but a few good men and they'll,
they're the thin one line that's, you know.
Look at him go.
Look at him go.
It's true.
I went to Walmart and I had a guy run after me.
They think they're in the Marines.
Yeah.
I had a guy run after me.
That's what they believe.
I had a guy.
I was doing the minimum wage job.
I had a guy run after me.
He's sleep under the banner of the spoiled food I buy.
And then question the matter and which I eat it.
You want me at that Walmart.
You need me at that Walmart.
I had a guy run after me and threatened to take my license plate
and have the cops in my house at 15 minutes
because I didn't hand over my receipt.
Can I ask a question?
It's a tough one.
As a man who's worked in security,
if you saw someone behaving the way you behave at the grocery store, would it not raise red flags if you were working security there?
Yes. But then I would arrest my case. But then I would. But in order to stop someone with probable cause you have to observe them shoplifting. And you can't observe me shoplifting because I don't shoplift.
Right, but you're bringing, but you're acting suspicious though.
That's not what's considered probable cause under shopkeepers privilege.
But they're not trying to arrest you.
They're just trying to check your receipt to make sure you're not stealing shit.
But they don't have, they don't, they can ask, but I don't have to submit.
But why does somebody have to submit credentials like to submit credentials at a game that you were working security to get through clearance?
Why can't they just say the same thing?
Well, I don't have to submit my credentials to you. You're not law enforcement.
You do, though, because that's the conditions of your ticket or that's your conditions of entering.
Just like if I was at a Costco, yes, I would have to hand over my receipt because that is part of the membership.
So the shop right were to put into writing or put a post it somewhere we can.
No, no, no, I would have to, I would have to agree to it.
They can't put a sign up.
This just says by entering shop right, you're agreeing to have your, you're, they can't do that.
Why not?
They can put the sign up.
It doesn't mean it's actually legal.
Why, okay, so why can a sporting event do that?
Because it's, it's a condition of your ticket.
Well, they would have they gave you a ticket as you walked in with that.
But I would have to buy the ticket just like I buy a membership at Costco.
What if money has to change hands for that to be enforceable?
It's a part of a contract.
So if they say, well, in the shop right, there's a one cent fee added to your bill that makes
us a membership.
And by the way, you're going to have to show your seat then by those rules, you'd be okay
with it. And then I would probably not shop there anymore.
But you don't understand, you'd say they were in the right then.
They would legally be in the right then, yes, to check my receipt.
That's all you care about.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Got it.
Are you shopping there anyways?
That was my fucking foot.
Yeah, they just instituted this policy because they, you know, according to the manager,
because of TikTok and Instagram, they've been getting shoplifters.
All right.
And I thought this was like nothing, but they're, I, I rechecked the fake receipt.
There's no manifesto on the back here.
Again, I didn't write this.
I didn't write anything in speech.
But you agree with it.
I can imagine being in a mood, though.
Like I can imagine being in a mood and like, there's a line in their check in their seats
and I just walk around.
Sure.
Like, I can just be like, just fuck off. I'm not stealing a left shop. I can
imagine that. I am not. No, no, no, I am not abusive like that saying fuck off. What
do they call a male Karen? I think you might be one, dude. Look, I'm rarely stopped
because mostly because of the color of my skin, but he's going for an award. What's he that? No, because it is true, because I'm privileged.
Yeah, I once went in black face and they stopped me.
No, and because what I do is I just keep my head forward and just keep going.
And they usually don't, again, as sir, sir, no, thank you.
And I just keep walking.
But this is only when they become successful.
Yeah, no, thank you.
Like how little would you care? You're a receipt checker. Right. And this is only when they become successful. Yeah, no, thank you. Yeah, like how little would you care?
You're a receipt checker, right? And this is the guy, but some people the problem is that the problem is that some people do
It's this is not for the people who don't care
Right. This is for the people who push it and you know, they don't know their legal authority
And you do I've read the law
Yeah, it's not that hard god everybody new Jersey to see 20-11. It's interesting
It's interesting that you even your dad is like just fucking show them the receipt
That's a caudern day Martha Ray
Or normal right normal right? I mean he moved like Martha Ray
So is that it would mean or anything else we haven't explored something that you want to talk about? I think people like catching up with men because you don't do a regular podcast anymore.
You can catch you on Twitter, Instagram sometimes, but I wanted to offer a business venture.
Really? Yeah, I want to see if I'm offering a fee
An appearance fee for an ISO comics Christmas special on the patreon if you guys want to reunite me and Mike
Yeah, but I would I would I would see all closely on patreon if and compensate
I would be all for I don't know the other party would be but I'll ask them okay
Yeah, let me let me
know. I can imagine that I could already see the reaction. But it's gonna be like trying
to get Jimmy Page to come out of retirement. I think it would be awesome. I think there
is. I think there would be a hunger for it. I agree. It's been so long. You guys reunite,
you know, we'll get a racist to rere-record the theme song. Yeah.
Listen, you know how I'm all for it. I would love to do it.
Yeah, there's no bad thing.
Well, you just got too busy for a program.
OK, you got to convince someone you're the other guy.
What's the number that my can't turn down?
What's the number you'd be OK with me offering right off
the bat?
How high am I allowed to go?
Am I allowed to go?
I'm outside a double digits
No, I'm gonna blow the whole budget of the test
What a great return of investment this is gonna be Negotiate up to a thousand. You know, I want to be angry. Okay. Yeah thousand dollars each
Well, what a great return of investment. This is gonna be you know you guys
Can't just be you have to be I sell
Producing it. Okay, you come up with some activities
and I kind of like shape it.
Yeah.
And you guys got to follow it and,
you know, really hit the bullet points.
Now, can we borrow some of the IJ like your wigs
for wings that walk and talk to them like on a camera?
Yeah.
I'm gonna give you some of that.
And then if it be blocks a thousand, you know,
you know, tell them that like, well, what's your number and then come back be box a thousand, you know, you know tell him that like well
What's your number and then come back with his number? Okay, okay?
I'm going back here with his number. Well tell him tell him a thousand first
Got to tell him like 500 first see what he says and be like look I'm authorized to go
You know he can hear this like I can believe it. You know like yeah, you can
Actually, he's quack yeah
Quack I really like You know, like, yeah, you can. Actually, I use quack. Yeah, quack.
I really, I really like the idea, like you guys in the back room
on all on Mike.
Things got a little earwagin.
I think that that's a little inflammatory.
I think we're looking to low with a heat.
Maybe a little bit.
Yeah, low with the temperature a little bit.
Okay, get some Gidolacell comics going.
Yeah, this is what you do.
You tell them 800.
Oh, I just get a little cream for you. Top a little bit of cream for me. This is what you do you tell him 800
A little bit of cream for me
You're broken the deal I know I just thought you know in this time when the world is at each other's throats
What better way to celebrate?
Jesus's birthday To reunite I sell comics. Yeah, you know for a Christmas themed episode, you know talk about goodwill to all men
Yeah, you know, yeah, if Mike wants to be a Grinch, Tom go ahead, but over here
We got the savior on our side. It's on his inflames right now. Yes, we're not and me and Q are trying to fucking lower the temperature.
See that.
What are you making?
I'm constantly stoking on the gas.
You're the gasoline.
I'm all scratch.
All tough cocktail.
We're trying to lower the temperature.
You can decide the text first.
Okay.
I love curious about the other.
Hey man.
I know I haven't spoken in two months.
hasn't been that long.
I think it's been longer.
Now how is it when you talk to me?
Is it just friendly?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, there's no content.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm just never high.
I don't go on the store that often.
Yeah.
You're only two blocks away.
I know.
I know.
Yeah, okay.
I mean, if I saw Mike on the street,
I would feel perfectly fine being like hey bud. What's I
I haven't heard one thing that Mike has said about us my bet you he's heard a ton
Reason
I want to say anything now that might lead to an award or anything like that
anything now that might lead to an award or anything like that? Um, maybe.
If I say something that'll lead to him not doing the Christmas special, right?
So I guess, well, this is my own branch.
I think I said, okay, okay.
Well, I wanted to say through my offer of like, you know, a, you rights, let's start
mending bridges instead of tearing them down.
I love it.
You said you miss, you said you miss the old crew.
Yeah.
You, you put this out there.
I mean, even if it's couched in like a little bit of humor, like you're doing the work as they say in
their late and you're doing the work. So this is the question. What's your price? You've
bought out piece of shit. He probably enjoys that he doesn't have to take shit from you anymore.
Yeah. Well, I don't really make them like and ming jokes anymore. It just doesn't seem right.
Talking about hardly ever do. I'm not really talking about it.
I hardly ever do.
I hardly ever, what do you mean?
Well, you're here, of course.
And in fact, I was the first one to make a Mike and Ming joke.
You were.
Not saying that.
But just like it's not the go to like a used to be.
It's a full shit, it's insane.
Go back.
I can't.
I can find a fucking hours worth of Mike and Ming jokes.
Recently though, recently.
The fun, recently.
I would say. This year, 2023. Yeah, I would say. I could never say that. I could never say that. hours worth of Mike and Ming jokes recently though recently. The following.
I would say 2023. Yeah, I would say ever said.
I think I heard the lessons you left to say.
I think it's a.
I think it's a.
It's a.
A couple of gone down though.
It's gone down.
That's what I mean.
I'm not saying I never make them.
You make.
But it just doesn't see.
No, I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
He's crazy.
I'm a curator.
Ready.
Can you put together a super cut?
A super cut. Yeah. Of all of the Mike and Ming jokes
that Brian has made in 2023 and 2022?
Yeah, I run that edge.
He's like, oh, no problem.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge.
Run that edge. Run that edge. Run that edge. y'all. Yeah, man. Fuckin' in grateful. Fuckin' yeah. Yeah, groupie could easily get that award.
Oh, no.
Pay their way to New Jersey.
No.
Anything else, man?
Any cons coming up, you want to promote?
Where we go, Chad and Nugo.
Chad and Nugo.
I love Chad and Nugo, man.
What a great town.
Yeah, they're doing the Ming-Chent Dibarks edition.
It's a paid event where you can go in and far
up with me. What date is that? Next weekend. Next weekend. So people have people get the ability
to pay to have dinner with you and now pay to go to die for me. Get drunk with me. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Are you now? Baby. Yeah. Do you not worry about getting a little a little
blood owed and acting the fool in public with cameras.
I do that every weekend.
You do it every weekend.
I do it every weekend.
You've seen me blood owed a good times.
Good times.
Very good time.
And if you want to see more of that, go on the IG.
Yeah.
I get my friends.
Oh, yeah.
That's going to be for fucking sure.
Every night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
I can't wait for that.
I can't wait any more.
I can't wait any more.
It's so much fun, man. It's shaping up. like we got some guests coming in. It's gonna be fun.
Yeah, you wanna go on this cruise?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You could be the last one, so get on the, get on the, get on the,
get on the, get on the, get on the, get on the, get on the,
I don't know the last one was,
I thought the last one was two,
and there was a long stretch where it was like,
I was demoralized.
I was depressed, because I was like, those are,
that is the best week.
So much fun.
Any, like any given year that the cruise is,
that's the best week.
One of the best phone calls I've ever made in my life is calling Adam Green up and Tom and we're doing another one. Oh
So fucking happy
It was like the best yeah getting me on we got so many ants coming in we got so many
Four cop with doing the four called demon meet up. We're gonna do it at time this fucking year
I could actually be there. There you go. It's gonna be great. I cannot wait. I it's gonna be so much fun
I can actually be there. There you go.
It's gonna be great.
I cannot wait.
It's gonna be so much fun.
But maybe we'll be there, but this weekend you're doing
so.
Chad and you're gonna get to shoot you.
That's next weekend.
I'll be able to.
How much is that paid event?
It was like 70 bucks.
And you get to drink with you.
It's a drink with me.
I think they have one of those crazy pedal cars.
Oh.
I've never done it, but they look like fun.
Yeah.
Do you drink on it? Like some of your drives and then you drink on it. Yeah, you drink on your head, you have to. You have to pedal, but they look like fun. Yeah. Do you drink on it? Like some of
your drives and then you drink on it. Yeah, you have to. You've had all, but they actually
see this part as a part I don't like. Yeah. But it's part of the agreement. You have to
do it. Is there a, is this an event that's tied to a some sort of comic book convention?
Yeah, it's like after hours of it. Oh, okay. Yeah. It seems like a weird thing in a comic book
convention to have a. You know, they, they, they, they, they do like after hours of it. Oh, okay. Yeah, she seems like a weird thing in a comic book convention to have a
You know, they they'll they see they do like you know karaoke parties after there's an after party. So it's not it's not that crazy
Man, I went to cons when I was like first start going to cons I can't imagine that there would be in a church basement Yeah, with the chit-ching over the Pennsylvania
I got the weird blotchy. Yeah, I will never would have dreamed that.
Yeah, you know, you would be I could have went bar hopping with
Chit-Chang or watching. Yeah, we fun.
Ming had been you probably could have.
If Ming had been with their with us at Megacom, we might have
experienced some of those things.
Well, that's it, man.
I have to take a wicked piss.
Is there anybody who wants to go and stand side by side with me?
I'll do it. man. I have to take a wicked piss. Is there anybody who wants to go and stand side by side with me?
I've done it before.
I'm gonna probably do it again.
Go doubles.
Yeah, it might be lighten up the rock.
This one of the upcoming doubles games.
Oh, yeah, they start this Thursday.
Yeah.
You're gonna be the guy that like ushers in,
like gets to crowd all.
Yeah, apparently they do it every game home game now.
Yeah, let's go Devils like boom, you hit like a button or something.
We're in talks for me to do that wall.
So that's cool, you know, can I can you get me a ticket to that game?
So I can come cheer you on.
If not this game another game I'll rip my shirt off when you do it.
Then the definitely this game.
One of my three.
Every piece is going to come off.
Yeah, yeah.
One of my three hoodies will come off.
I'll have two underneath.
What a wild man.
Hahaha.
You'll be freezing.
Great.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
All right.
You got that going.
Maybe a puck that's re-using him.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Pretty man.
All right.
Awesome.
All right.
So this is a great episode. You got to come back more back warming. Yeah come back anytime. I'm actually at home
Which is not that often you're so busy. You're like right when you do come home your wife's like oh good
You're like, oh sorry, go hot
Life of a maverick baby
Maverick
Wait whistle and dixie man. You are the maverick
Tell them Steve Dave
I'm avic.
Tell them Steve Dave.