Tell Em Steve-Dave - #611: Flip Floppery
Episode Date: October 13, 2024Joker II, an ant asks for advice, the piss bandit strikes, AI will be the end of us all, Q takes a drubbing....
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It's like Magoo, I'm turning into Magoo.
Don't know for certain if it's urine, do you? That's how much people are thinking about you.
They're not putting that much thought to you.
I have to remind myself of that sometimes.
I'll just sit there and I'm like, nobody's thinking about you right now.
Nobody. I have to remind myself of that sometimes. I'll just sit there. I'm like nobody's thinking about you right now
Tell him Steve Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of tell him Steve Dave. I look around the table I see wall Flanagan. Yo, and I see BQ. Yeah. All right. We're all here here. We're all here
How's it going Q?
How you been?
Oh, you know, it's been one thing after another lately, but.
It seems that way.
Yeah.
It's been a little, I don't know.
I can't really talk about too much because it's, you know, all kind of like personal
stuff, but also like it's normal life stuff.
So not too bad, but yeah, it's been a little bit of a fucking crazy week for me.
Some family health stuff and work stuff.
Family health stuff.
Yeah, we ain't do.
Everybody's getting older.
Me, my brothers, my parents.
Do you find any, that you're facing any new health things?
As you get older.
I mean, I think it's all within normal.
My eyesight's now. I might as well, I might start walking into walls.
Dude, me too.
I was just trying to read something earlier today and I was like, it's getting worse.
Yeah, it's getting bad.
It's like Magoo.
I'm turning into Magoo.
I can't see shit anymore.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
But you can see far away, okay, right?
Yeah, I can still see fine enough.
Like, yeah, like I'm exaggerating.
It's fine.
Like I can, but it's just weird my whole life.
Like I was able to just read this without glasses.
Right.
So it's fine.
That's the Walt Flanagan font.
Yeah.
Makes it nice and big for you.
What is that size?
12, 12, 13 font.
That's how you compensate.
Right.
Yeah.
Everything has to be in fucking super fat ass letters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always like a fat ass
Let's see what I got here. Well, well you said you saw Joker so did you oh, I saw yeah I went cuz Walt said he liked it. Yeah, I did not I did not get to see it
I didn't have a chance but uh, did what did you think? Did you like it?
I I mean, I think I liked it exactly the same as I liked the first one, which is, which is like, I, I'm like, it's not, it's like the first one. It's not something I'm
going to rush to go see again. Yeah. I felt, it felt like an absolute complete connected to movies.
Yeah. I don't know why people would like the first one and not like the second one. It made
no sense. Apparently there's a lot of people who hate the second one and not like the second one. It made no sense. Apparently, yeah, there's a lot of people who hate the second one and who love the first one.
I don't get it.
We're having seen the second one and just say they hate it.
Oh no, I think there's a lot of people,
but yeah, so they heard what, I guess what happens,
and I'm not sure what happened or didn't happen
to send people into a tizzy about feeling betrayed
by the film's choices.
You think just because it was a musical?
No, I feel like the fact that Joker didn't kill
anybody was upsetting to people.
And he didn't like take down some people
who deserve to die.
It, that's how I got it.
And, and he kind of copped that he kind of pushed
out at the end, I guess, and admitted he was
Arthur Fleck and he didn't have a personality disorder.
I think that was, just like when Harley was portrayed
in the movie, I think some members of the audience
felt betrayed as well, which is psychotic.
She's crazy.
She's crazy, I liked her take on Harley.
I thought it was very well done.
I was completely entertained the entire time there could have been ten more musical numbers
And I would have been fucking happy and sat there clapping. I thought they were yeah brilliant. I thought they were very artistic
I don't see what other people saw that upset them so much. Yeah, I don't either
I thought it was a little long like towards the end I was like, all right guys, let's fucking, let's maybe cut a song or two and get moving.
But I thought, dude, I'm with you.
It felt like just a continuation of the first movie.
Yeah, like a seamless continuation of the previous movie.
So I was floored by that.
I was enjoying it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I loved, loved the Harvey Dent thing.
I thought that was so fucking,
what a slick way
to do that, like get him into,
there's like a little nod to Two-Face in it
that I liked a lot, yeah.
There were moments that I just could not help but be
breathless at the performance by the Joker actor.
Yeah, Joaquin Phoenix.
And I know people rave about that first performance,
but this one really made me take notice because
he was doing so much more dancing.
Right.
The thought and acting chops that went into when
he's Arthur Fleck, he moves differently.
He moves almost like, like if you've
been around people that aren't all there, they
have a certain way they move their body. It's
kind of herky jerky. It's kind of stiff. It's
kind of just different than a sane person moves.
When he was the joker and dancing, he moved like
an athlete.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
He stood confident. He looked like a totally different human being.
Right.
And that is stunning to think that possibly he had that kind of thought process when he
sits down and becomes this character.
Yeah.
The way he moves, he moves like a trained athlete.
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's apparent in the movie.
Yeah, with confidence.
Right, and he dances well and stuff.
Yeah, it's mesmerizing, but when he's Arthur Fleck,
he moves like he's helpless.
Well, it also helps out when he's Arthur Fleck.
They really accentuate his physical frailty a lot.
They show his bones.
They did on the first one, too.
Yeah, it's a lot more of that.
And then when he's Joker, he's just like in
total command of the red suit and all that shit.
Yeah.
He moves like the mask.
Remember the mask?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like the Cuban Pete dance thing he was doing.
Yeah.
And it was something to behold.
I was mesmerized when he became a Joker.
I was just like, this looks like a total, like,
like it could be a different actor doing this.
The way he's moving, like they have a, like a dance double dance double like the tap dancing that was him yeah that was that was him
that was cool that was the one sequence that where they were on that stage with the lights that i was
like if anything could have went to shorten this up that could have went are we talking about where
it went like um you don't know what it's like that that number the one where it's the sonny and
share number that i love that you didn't like that? I'm just looking at things that could have went.
I don't think you grew up with Sonny and Cher.
I think that hurts your appreciation for that.
Yeah.
I mean, I got what they were going for, but I just started feeling the movie so long.
Whereas the scene where she was playing piano, I was like, that's fucking awesome.
So I don't know.
So we like the same things.
Yes.
Yeah, versions of it.
When the Sonny and Cher moment came on, I literally turned to my daughter and was
like, you don't know who Sonny and Cher is, but this is freaking awesome.
People are like shh.
I saw my daughter and she didn't like it.
She said something interesting.
She goes, I'm surprised you liked it.
Because she asked me if I liked it.
And I was like, I did like it.
She goes, because I don't think it was made for the people who like comics, she goes.
And I go, what makes you say that?
She goes, I think the demographics of the ages of the guy, because it's going to be
male dominant, she thought, are going to appreciate that type of movie.
And I was like, yeah, I don't know, maybe you're right, but yeah, I like, but.
She needs a job at Warner Brothers.
Telling them what not to do.
And she said, because she thought that I would be turned off by all the musical numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but... She needs a job at Warner Brothers. Telling them what not to do.
And she said, because she thought that I would be turned off by all the musical numbers.
And she goes, I didn't know you liked Broadway so much.
I was like, I love the theater.
I was going to say, she grew up in that house.
She knows how often you went.
I had read somewhere there were 17 musical numbers in it.
Does that sound accurate?
Yeah, but they're not all full numbers.
Yeah.
Sometimes they'll just sing a line.
I'm telling you, man, you will're not all full numbers. Yeah. Oh, okay. Sometimes they'll just sing a line or-
I'm telling you, man, you will not be, I don't know, I don't know, cause you're not
a conflict fan, so I don't know if you'll appreciate it, but I don't think you'll ever
go like, this is boring.
I think you'll appreciate the artistic people that put on these MGM old school Hollywood
dance sequences like that are a throwback to 1940s Hollywood
where like they're dancing on the rooftop.
Yeah, or even when he's watching the TV in the in the in the rec room with the and he
sings that song and he it's it's one shot.
He's just looking at TV and he just starts I forget the name and so he and he just weaves
through all the it's the inmates just singing and then look through the
guards and then he just comes back and ends back looking at
the TV and it snaps back to reality.
Like it was a pretty cool.
Can we talk about spoilers?
Should we just say spoilers then?
Cause there's certain things I want to get your opinion on.
I think so.
I don't know how you feel.
Cause there was a moment where, you know,
Harley and him meet or Lee Lee is her name, but they,
it basically was Harley. They meet in the, in a same, Well same last name, but they, yeah, basically it was Harley.
They meet in the insane asylum.
Well, same last name, right?
Quinzel was, yeah.
And of course she's like infatuated with him
because she's seen him on TV and everything
and they, and he of course is attracted to her.
And she is let out of the insane asylum
or checks herself out and she shows up in his cell
and they have sex.
Yeah.
Did you think that really happened or do you?
I thought that was a fantasy.
No, I thought that happened.
How the f- in the real world that would never happen though.
Well, she said, she goes, she wakes up in the cell and she's there and he goes, are you really here?
And she goes, yeah.
And then she goes, she said something about like one of something about one of the guards.
And she goes, I would do anything for you.
And in my head, it was like, Oh, well,
she just fucking blew a guard.
Really? Yeah.
But then she started kissing Joaquin Phoenix.
And I was like, maybe not.
Maybe you shouldn't be kissing that guy right now.
Do you think there was too much things for you to assume
in this movie? Cause there's, we'll get to the end,
but where I had a big problem with the end, but the assumption that she used her sexual wares
to get into that cell, that was not, to me, I did not pick up on that.
Oh, that's all I thought. When she said I would do anything for you you I was like that my first thing was like she fucked a guard to get in Wow
Okay, she said a line about it that when connected to the two like I know one of the guards asked something like that
But it was funny that she turns out to be a fucking liar that made me laugh. Oh, dude
There's a fucking reveal what a fucking crazy broad she is.
You're just like, oh boy, one of those. All right, here we go. Type of girl that hits
you with a door on the, you know what I'm saying?
But one of the things that I know the internet was aflame about was the implied gang rape of Arthur Fleck. I don't like that. I
Did not and I did not get that that's what happened. I assume they just beat him up
Why does everybody make the the fucking massive leap because right after they throw them to the griper fright before after they throw her down
Brendan Gleason goes get get his underwear off and it was like whoa
And I was like, whoa. And I
was like, well, what the fuck?
That sounds like a hit.
In a horror movie though, why are they unwilling to just let you know what happened? Why is
this there this ambiguity or this?
I don't know. I wish they that was one thing.
Not that I want to see that. I saw longer. That was enough.
I thought it was implied that they raped the guy so much so that like, I didn't like it.
Like to me, I have a problem.
That really pissed people off because they like, the joker went out like a, like a wuss.
Oh, I just find, that wasn't it for me.
Like to me, it was just a more matter of like, I just find like sexual assault and rape so
upsetting.
You know what I mean?
That like, I can't, In a way that I could watch
somebody hack another person to death in a movie and be like, but there's something about rape and
stuff like that bothers me. But the thing that makes me think it wasn't, that didn't happen was
because they're dragging him back to his cell, his underwear is back on. They wouldn't put his
underwear back on. Well, they put his clothes back on. Remember they had his shirt off and everything
and he was wearing his suit jacket when they dragged him into the cell. So anyway, so I was bothered about that.
That was like something I don't really like. And then when I went and I went on Wikipedia to see
what the plot breakdown said and the plot breakdown just said that he got beaten savagely,
that he didn't get raped. When Rob told me that's what pissed people off so much, I was like, I don't think he got raped. Yeah. You're saying he did. No, I'm gonna go. But when you
watched it initially, you thought that's what happened. I was worried he got raped. I was like,
why would they go there? Why would they do that? I just don't like it. You've seen Oz, right? That's
all that happens. Yeah. No, I know. But it doesn't mean, you know, it doesn't mean like the same thing with like
You know, it would be different if like Freddy Krueger if like you saw a man the Krueger get locked in and then like all
The Mad Men like start. I don't know. It's just like I just I don't know. I just don't like it
That's what happened
I think that I think the filmmaker has to be has to sell it a little bit more like that's definitely what happened and
More so than ever at the very
end, which I know piss people off too, which if you don't want to hear the end, but another inmate
kills the Joker, Arthur Fleck, at the very end of the movie. And I did not pick up, I did not see, because it was so soft in the background,
that he had carved a smile into his face,
the guy who killed the, the guy who,
I caught that.
I didn't see it.
Yeah, I caught that.
Why on earth would you choose to not do a closeup of that,
to fucking hammer home what just happened?
I don't know.
I left the theater not realizing
that that's what, that was the implications,
that okay, he was never gonna be the real Joker is now this guy and that's the Joker that's gonna fight Batman
What he's not gonna fight Batman, right? Oh
The new guy the guy the murder isn't Batman still like nine in this continuity. That's a very young Joker now
That's that's got to be 20 years his his junior of Arthur Fleck
Yeah, I I guess like some people are saying like that's a backdoor origin for Heath Ledger's
Joker. Oh, really?
Yeah. Cause the way he cuts his face is the same scars that Ledger has.
I don't know why they allow the audience to just come to these conclusions on their own.
Well, did you hear the story about that? That was supposed to be the ending of the first one.
And Nolan blocked it.
Why?
Because he didn't want it to be connected.
He didn't want that movie connected to his movies?
Yeah, he didn't want to do it.
And he has that kind of juice.
He used to.
He doesn't now.
And that's why he was able to put that ending in this movie.
And why do you think he didn't want anything connected
to this movie?
He didn't realize it was gonna be a fucking monster hit,
did he?
I guess, yeah, yeah.
Little cattiness, huh?
I mean, it made more money than his movie, so maybe, yeah.
And then like, it's funny,
because Todd Phillips is like, I guess now like,
well, fuck you, now it is happening
at the end of this movie, so.
Do you think that they should have chosen to have a clear,
in-focus fucking moment of what just happened?
I noticed it.
I noticed it in the background, so I didn't have the feeling
that I was missing out on something.
It took me two days before reading an article
with the director, before I realized,
oh, fuck, that's what happened?
I will say this, I saw it with some non-combook people,
and they loved that. That was a twist they fucking loved loved they were like, oh so it's the real whereas me. I was just like well, all right
I get it's a little gimmicky. But whatever I might be
Showing signs of like slowing down that I didn't pick up on these things. No, you're not and get them
It was way out of focus like I couldn't blame you I used to be able to get around on everybody's fastball.
Now I can't.
I have a little bit of blurriness in the movie and I'm like, what just happened?
Give me my glasses, Alicia.
Who am I?
What did you say?
What did Joker say?
Yeah.
Shhh.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, again, it was one, it was, uh, you know, I get the people that I
was with really liked it.
That I really liked it.
That twist though, at the end, he created the Joker.
You know, it's, it's one of those things that I could, but for me it's like, and I was talking
to my buddy Nick and he does not like these movies and he's a comp guy.
And my thing was like, it's just else worlds to me, man.
You know what I mean?
Like I could really almost accept anything because it's just Elseworlds to me, man. You know what I mean? Like, I could really almost accept anything because it's just Elseworlds stories.
And his point was, and I thought it was an interesting point,
like, well, Elseworlds is for comic book fans.
It's for those of us who know what the right thing is.
That's why it's funny to show you the alternate paths.
He's like, when they start presenting Elseworlds
as the story, he goes, that's when they start presenting else worlds as the story,
he goes, that's when you start fucking everything up because people don't understand. And then
you get all these different watered down opinions into it. He's like,
so, which I thought was an interesting point, but he also thought about it way more than I did.
I was just like, I was all right, you know,
about that opening animation. It was so cool. A throwback to old 1940s Warner Brothers.
That was cool. I like that. Yeah. I wish they had done a little bit more in the style of the Bugs Bunny cartoons, you know, but I thought it was great that they did it.
Yeah. Even the way that animation looked, the way that that character moved.
Yeah.
Had that old fashioned kind of movement.
Repeated like over and over again. Yeah, the car going around the corner and bending as it went around the corner. Yeah, the art direction in this movie is phenomenal.
It should be applauded.
I'm shocked that it's going to go down as one of the biggest box office failures in
history.
I don't know why if you didn't like the first one, you didn't like the second one.
But you know.
Well, it seemed like people were predisposed to not liking it.
They heard reviews, they heard it was a musical and they were like, fuck this, it's a betrayal
of the fans and all that stuff. I don't understand that, I don't understand that mentality or just give it a shot.
Just give it a shot and see if you like it or not.
Betrayed.
I mean, did you see fucking the new Disney Star Wars?
That's fucking betrayal.
I didn't even bother watching it.
Yeah.
There's like four other versions of the Joker.
You could watch it any second.
There's only one Star Wars series.
Yeah. Woo. But yeah, it has been getting trounced. There's like four other versions of the Joker you could watch at any second. There's only one Star Wars series.
Yeah.
Woo.
But yeah, it has been getting trounced and sure has been anemic box office.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it was like one of the biggest drop-offs.
Yeah. I think terrifier three, like almost topped it this weekend.
Really?
Yeah.
That's something.
Yeah.
Who would have ever thought that when you heard that Lady Gaga is going to be Harley Quinn, you're like, it's going to be a monster hit. Yeah. Who would have ever thought that when you heard that Lady Gaga's going to be Harley
Quinn, you're like, it's going to be a monster hit.
Yeah.
It's a weird, it was not her fault, that's for sure.
I thought she did a fantastic job.
When I saw that she was Harley Quinn, I thought that they were just like sort of stunt casting
because I'm like Margot Robbie is like, she is Harley Quinn, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a different take on it. It was a different take. She could not do that.
I don't think Margot Robbie could have did that, that version of Harley Quinn.
No.
Did she sing a lot?
I don't know if she sings a lot, but you just needed someone greasy.
You need someone who looked.
Mentally ill.
Yeah.
Margot Robbie's just too hot.
She's too pretty.
Like I'll deal with that kind of crazy.
I have, um, Q, I know that you like to dispense advice.
Oh, it's my favorite thing.
I can fix everybody else's problems.
This is a problem that maybe you can fix.
Let's see here.
Let me, it's a sent in by an aunt.
Uh, how do I not allow other people to affect my own mental health?
Essentially, how do I be okay without giving a fuck for a bit of context?
My friend, someone I considered my best friend is having relations with a person
that makes numerous people uncomfortable.
No matter how many people tell her she won't listen.
She even said to me, let me make my own mistakes.
Anything helps.
Wait, I got hold on. Could you give me one more me make my own mistakes. Anything helps. Wait, I got, hold on.
Just cause you give me one more time.
I'm sorry.
Sure.
Uh, how does she not allow other people to affect her own mental health?
No, from the beginning.
Cause I missed something at the beginning.
They put it, get them started playing something on TV and I got this.
Okay.
I'm looking for some advice.
How do I not allow other people to affect my own mental health?
Essentially, how do I be okay with not giving a fuck? Oh, I see.
For a bit of context, my friend,
someone I consider my best friend is having relations with a person that makes
numerous people uncomfortable. And no matter how many people tell her,
she won't listen. She even said to me, let me make my own mistakes.
So I guess she's, she's buddies with somebody who's banging somebody else that
nobody likes. How does she?
The art of not giving a fuck.
Yes.
This is a young-
The whole book about it.
Is there an age here?
Really?
I'm not sure the age. I would say 20s, I believe.
There's no way for her to win this battle until she's older.
Everybody cares what other people think about them. There's not a person on the
planet that doesn't give a shit.
Everybody cares what other people think about them. Like there's not a person on the planet that doesn't give a shit.
So I think the, the, the phrase, I don't give a fuck is the most empty.
Hollow three word.
I don't give a fuck four words ever hundred.
Yeah.
Everybody usually somebody has a fuck.
I don't give a fuck, but you know, well, it's condition specific.
I think like there might be some things where like, oh, I don't give a fuck, just let's get
over this and move on.
You know?
So that's your advice, just keep on not giving a fuck or try to not give a fuck.
I mean, I'm 48 and it's just like, I didn't even start feeling like I entered that sort
of mental space till I was in my forties.
So, you know, I just think there's no way around it.
But time will prove if she was right though. Well, think of it like this, I just think there's no way around it. But time will prove if she was right though.
Well, think of it like this, I guess, is
how much time do you spend thinking about other people?
Besides, like honestly, like, it's not that much.
Not a ton.
Not a ton.
You have an opinion on someone, you flip it around,
you know what I mean?
Like, that's how much people are thinking about you.
They're not putting that much thought to you.
I have to remind myself of that sometimes. I'll just sit there. I'm like, nobody's thinking
about you right now. I'll remind myself of that from time to time.
Are you thinking about me?
What about you Sage? What's that dog doing? Show him my picture on your phone.
See if he reacts.
I don't feel like getting up, so just show him my picture.
Tell him I'm thinking about him.
Yeah, I think nobody's really thinking about you to begin with. We all just worry about that.
And honestly, it's the people,, I find the people that, like,
I like the most are like the ones that like put them,
like everybody loves a part, like Joe Gatto,
he don't give a fuck, you know what I mean?
He's out there having fun, partying and dancing
and shit like that.
I don't know.
I love guys like that.
Ming Chen, another one.
Ming Chen don't give a fuck, but.
Ming Chen don't give a fuck about anybody else.
Right.
But these are masters.
All that matters to him is like, who am I going to take a selfie with next?
Right, who's going to pay attention to me?
That's all that matters to him.
Or is I'm going to get that next slice of pizza or free cup of coffee?
Now that comes at a cost, though.
Yeah, your soul.
Yeah, but aside from a master like him, I think you just, you know, you just got to
get through your twenties like we all did, bud. It's hard.
Yeah. I mean, she's saying it's affecting her mental health. So, I mean, I guess essentially
you have to just say, I'm not going to allow it. I'm not going to allow it. Maybe don't
hang around that person as much. Maybe don't enter social situations with them.
Well, it sounds like she wants to be more like that person.
Oh, you think?
Well, she's saying like, how do I be like that person's not worried about what
everybody's thinking about me about them?
She just bees her is what I took from that.
So I could be wrong.
Of course I'm usually wrong, but he, yeah.
I mean, look, I think if you're that, I think you should realize
that everybody feels this way. Literally fucking everybody feels this way. And if it's if you're that, I think you should realize that everybody feels this
way.
Literally fucking everybody feels this way.
And if it's affecting you that much, like go to therapy, go talk to someone about it.
Cause that's what I did.
You can even go online.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you should do that if it's that, because just, I think what you're feeling is normal
and everybody feels it.
But have you ever, you say you think it's normal, have you ever had somebody that you cared about
was in a bad relationship, did you ever allow it
to affect you so much that you're
resorting to writing into a podcast
to figure out how to not be affected
by somebody else's relationship? No, that's never really happened to me.
If my friends start dating someone who's annoying,
I just kind of just fucking distance myself.
I'm like, they'll break up eventually, I'll get my friend back.
Especially if you're backed by numerous other people, like she says.
It's like you're onto something.
If everybody's like, look, this person's a jerk off,
there's probably something there.
So in time, it'll work itself out.
And if the, I mean, if this girl is like, look,
I'm going to have relations with them and I don't
care what you say, there's nothing you can do
about that, nor should you try.
Yeah.
What do you, why do you even have a say in this?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, what if he's, what if he's really no good?
Oh, he's like a total piece of shit and it's your friend.
Yeah.
Like there is a, there is a line, but I mean, if it's just, he's annoying or what was the word she used to describe
him? He's no. Let me see here. Because I mean, if it's just annoying, I mean, there's not much you
can do about that. But if he's, you know, if it's detrimental to her welfare, mental or physical.
Well, again, like my friend, someone I considered my best friend is having relations with a person
that makes numerous people uncomfortable. And no matter how many people tell her, she won't listen.
So you, you're probably, even if you're the best friend, you're probably not going to be able to
change your mind. Right. And also like there's a very loose definition, like what, what is she doing?
If it's like she's got a fucking sick body and she's wearing a bikini at the pool in the summer,
it's like, and everybody's like, we're not that hot. You know what I mean?
Then it's just like, you know, we don't know what this girl's doing to, to earn this, this ire.
I don't know.
Well, this, oh, this is, this is a male who sent this in. No, this is a male who sent this in.
No, this is a female who sent this in.
Okay, but her best friend's boyfriend is the problem, I thought.
Best friend's boyfriend is the problem.
Oh, I thought, for some reason I thought it was like a, but the same thing applies.
Like she didn't say he was abusive.
She said he's annoying.
Right.
So he could just be, I don't know, what does that mean?
It could be like he tells bar chips.
He didn't say he was abusive. Just said it makes be like, it could be like you tell spartans.
You could even say it was abusive. Just so it makes people uncomfortable.
You could tell he wears a Trump fucking t-shirt around all the time. Like you don't know what
it means. So it's hard to say.
Yeah. I think though, no matter what, like it is really hard. If somebody has their mindset,
it's very difficult to change it many times, you know?
Right. It's fucking possible.
In situations like this, like nearly impossible.
It's nearly impossible.
Because they're like, because that person is like, look, they don't see in
him what I see in him.
Yeah, I know.
And also like the older you get to you're like, I think it's easier to disengage
from it because you're like, I know I can't do anything and I also know this is
doomed because that guy's an asshole.
So I'll just, it's just a matter of time.
It's a matter of time.
I'll just go do it.
Just wait it out.
Yeah, wait it out.
But definitely though, if I was her though, make sure you – don't forget the side
I told you, Soto.
Oh yeah, definitely at the end.
You know what?
Fuck yes.
Write it now in an envelope and date it.
Yeah, mail it to yourself.
Yeah, and then when she gets fucked over, you can just give her that letter.
That's what a real friend would do.
Let's see what I got here. her that letter. That's what a real friend would do.
Let's see what I got here. I got, this is what I wanted to read last week and we ran out of time.
Piss Bandit taunts locals with urine bottles labeled HIV positive is California's number one menace. He believes in us. HIV positive piss. He's a comedic genius.
Is there such a thing? Yeah. I know. There's a comedic genius. Is there such a thing?
Yeah.
There's a cure for HIV.
Like what is going on here?
Says someone has been pissing off the rich of California.
Every few days, a mysterious figure in a mask and latex gloves carries
bottles of urine to an affluent neighborhood, carefully arranges them on
a utility box and then vanishes into the night known as the piss bandit.
For the past six years, he's left his mark on Pasadena with soda bottles, juice cartons, and even gallon jugs filled
to the brim with yellow liquid.
Years?
Years.
And they haven't caught this guy yet?
I mean, it sounds like it's a picture of it.
Oh, it's so fucking funny.
Is it really urine?
Uh, it says urine.
It says HIV positive on the bottles.
It looks like orange juice.
It really does.
Yeah.
Now why would they call that a bandit though?
He's just, he's leaving something.
He's not taking anything.
Not taking anything, yeah.
The piss bandit sometimes strikes multiple times a week with bottles appearing in the
morning and disappearing by nightfall.
And the bizarre behavior has been going on for so long that round rings have been etched
into the paint of the utility box.
And it's always that same box.
Oh, they got a picture of them.
Yeah.
He's like in some kind of hoodie.
They can't catch it.
How could you not catch this guy?
How can you not catch the piss bandit?
Cause he's not breaking any laws.
He's littering.
Oh, I don't know.
Are you allowed to do that?
Leave your piss around all over the place.
It's California. Oh, that's true.. Are you allowed to do that? Leave your piss around all over the place? It's California.
Oh, that's true. That's a great point.
What the fuck you talking about?
The fessering rot that is San Francisco is spread through the state. Is that what you're saying,
Walt?
Well, it says here, the city outfitted the box with a pointed metal cover in an attempt
to stop the flow, but the bandits simply tore it off and left a fresh bottle of fresh batch of
bottles for their trouble.
So funny.
Okay.
Some are calling him the piss artist.
The piss artist, huh?
Yeah.
I like that more so than a bandit.
Well, he's not putting it on private property.
No, he's putting it on public property.
He owns that just as much as any of us.
That is an extremely unhealthy looking color of your.
It is very dark.
It's got sediment at the bottom.
When you got dealing with some of your stones, does yours look all cloudy and mushroom colored
like that?
It can get cloudy, yeah.
Gittem says yes, could possibly get cloudy.
Wow.
If you want to hear about Gittem's piss.
His handwriting's awful.
Can you just, I want to ask you an honest question I want to get on, Mike.
Let's say the airport plaza was dealing with a piss bandit on your rounds.
All of a sudden you just saw a couple bottles of urine labeled HIV positive.
What's your go-to move?
Cameras.
Look, look, look, look, look.
Tastes just like daddy light.
Now you think you would have, or would you be allowed access to the cameras if you went
over to Jill the-
Oh, I'd set up my own. I got better cameras than this place does.
All right.
So let's say you see somebody in a hoodie doing it.
Would you call the cops or would you approach them on your own?
I'd observe and report.
Observe and report.
And what would you say?
We have a gentleman leaving a biohazard in our hallway here.
It's a danger to the public and our cleaning crew. What makes you think it's biohazard? That's here. Uh, you know, it's a danger to the public, um, and our cleaning crew.
What makes you think it's biohazard?
That's the, it's urine.
What makes you think it's urine?
It's labeled urine, but we don't know.
You don't know for certain if it's urine, do you?
Uh, it's labeled urine.
I'm going to, I'm going to err on the side of questions.
So you're telling me, sir, you're going to assume.
Yes.
You know what, assume when you assume you make an ass out of both you and me.
Yeah.
Someone wrote a urine on it.
When you confirm it's fucking urine, asshole, then call us.
Okay, Columbo?
Otherwise, get fucking shambled back up to your office and shut the fuck up.
The Hazel police are not that …
If Walt were a cop. Yeah. I don't care if you're having a fucking heart attack. You think you're having a heart
attack, you don't know. So until you know, stop clogging up my phone lines. I'm watching
Columbo.
You know that's how it go down.
Verify the urine.
It says here that a filmmaker launched a month long investigation into the culprit with his
partner filmmaker, Derek Milton.
Oh, you know they're involved.
You think so?
They're trying to get a documentary.
It's a play witch all over again.
Yeah, yeah. The first people I look at are the filmmakers.
Yeah. Well here it says, and this might lean towards your, uh, your assertion rule here.
The first video of their investigation gained more than 600,000 views on TikTok.
To the filmmakers, the bandit isn't as a disgusting vandal, but a vigilante artist,
a Robin Hood figure who has made the town of Pasadena his little John, his dedication to the craft is what intrigued
us. Now you're right. If it could be them doing it and then like just student.
That's what the member, the, uh, the clown on Staten Island that would appear that turned
out to be fuzz on the lens. Those guys who went on to make terror fire and scream. That
was, that, that was their stunt.
Really?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They, they dressed up like the clown and like
had got waited till it caught on.
And then they did a thing where they
discovered the clown or someone that it
turned out like it was something they
were pulling the whole time.
Oh wow.
Pretty brilliant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It worked.
I remember I was driving along, standing
on light and I saw the clown and I got out
and I was like, dude, I gotta get a picture and I got a picture with him and the guy in the mask, I was driving along Staten Island and I saw the clown and I got out and I was like, dude, I gotta get a picture
and I got a picture with him.
And the guy in the mask, I was a little dizzy,
he should have stayed in character
cause he started going, oh, I love this show.
And I'm like, oh, be the clown, be the clown.
Yeah.
That shit's dangerous though, right?
Cause like everybody's not like you.
There's some like wackos out there who's like,
if I fucking shoot a clown, I'm gonna fuck him up.
Yeah, you remember when there was that spade of clown sightings
and they were beating them and stuff?
Yeah.
The neighborhood is an oasis of expensive homes,
swimming pools, and carefully manicured lawns,
and people are like, I find it disgusting.
Never did I consider it an art form
in any way, shape, or form.
Could you rally a posse together
of some of the airport plaza residents?
Yeah, who would you go to?
Two Rons.
The Irregulators.
Well, I go with Flo the Yarn Lady,
because that way we can time up.
We'll use her as a plant.
She'll walk up and down the fucking strip,
all seductively.
Oh, we'll get her in a mini skirt, and heels. If I learned anything, it's. Oh, look at her in like a mini skirt and heels.
If I learned anything, it's better to have a man dress up as a woman and do that.
It always works out better. Yeah.
You're right.
Doesn't really.
Yeah.
You know what I'm like.
Yeah, you're right.
Episode seven.
Kojak, yeah.
Just...
So...
Ron too starts smoking a cigar so we get a smoke screen.
So, Kenem, are you willing to put on the skirt and go out there and mints about seductively?
We got the alvira dress still from a couple of Halloweens ago.
I don't think the beard'll work.
You're gonna have to shave the beard.
I can't.
Really?
Not even to fucking nab the piss bandit?
No, you know, I'm much more of a piss artist to be honest.
This is how you make a name for yourself.
Like, you could be the guy.
Now, why, in all honesty, why do you treasure that growth
that's onto your chin so much?
This is my grief beard.
I know, but at this point that you're seemingly,
it's for the betterment of your life,
don't you think you could just trim it
and still keep the beard and have the grief?
I do trim it somewhat.
I mean, like close, like almost like a Burt Reynolds close.
Yeah, no, not yet.
Because you could look like Burt.
Not yet.
With a little bit of help.
Not yet.
A lot of liposuction.
I remember Dumbledore, he said the same thing to me
when I started growing out.
Like why don't you just shave it nice and tight
like Chuck Norris, I remember was the example you gave me.
Yeah, like if you halved it, would you feel uncomfortable with it?
If I have it. So it's like right here. Yeah. No, it's still be okay.
Yeah. I want it because I like to look, I'm not suggesting at all. Like this is,
I'm just, I'm fairly talking to him. Like if you, if you were like to put it here,
it would still be a, a be a wonderfully long beard. Um,
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's going to sound strange, but it's,
you, part of me likes to think that there's still a part of this beard
that touched my cat's last.
I see.
You know,
but what I'm not saying is shave it clean.
Yeah.
What I'm saying is there's in my mind mind there's still hair here that touched them last.
You know?
So I have a, it's like a little bit of a connection to me.
But even if you have, that's still the same.
It's still the same.
Not all, no, it just wouldn't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, you know, that's just how I feel.
It's like I still have a little bit of a connection to them.
There you go.
All right.
So is this then a lifelong commitment? No, no, no, no. When I get over my grief, then I, you know.
The beard will go.
Yeah.
Eh.
Yeah.
You can do it.
I'd like to get more cats.
So when you get more cats you think that's why you'll uh...
So if we allowed you to get a cat in the office, would you shave it?
I'd like it to be house of cat, but...
Okay, there's always a
fucking caveat.
Always a caveat.
Right.
But you, Bri, would like, you think
you'll keep this beard for the, this
length beard for the rest of your life?
Do you think that they may come where
you have it or something like that?
Uh, they may come where I have it or
something.
Yeah.
I just don't, I don't know.
Like Marybeth likes it.
Yeah.
I like it.
I like it.
No, thank you. Yeah. How much will you sell it. I like it. I like it. No, thank you.
Yeah.
How much will you sell it to Jimmy for?
Jimmy the hair guy?
Yeah.
If, if, if he had that and he gave me two grand, yeah, I would do that.
I don't know.
Jimmy, Jimmy goes around to too many cons.
I don't think he has hair money anymore.
I don't think so either.
Yeah.
Well, he's fucking getting married too.
He's got a whole lot of family.
He can't be spending.
He can't be like, honey, hear me out. Yeah.
Bryce says I can have half his beard.
Only two G's. It's a bargain of a lifetime.
How do you think that conversation goes?
As it should go.
What? Please tell me you're joking.
She's like, I can look past the jungle. Oh shit. Well, she's a jungle too.
Oh, did you see this Walt? This, uh, an extra, oh wait, sorry. It was false. They just put it up.
There's this, of Bigfoot.
New footage of Bigfoot?
New footage of Bigfoot.
But it's already been confirmed to be-
It's been debunked already.
Oh, wow.
We can't have any fun anymore.
Everybody's got to debunk everything.
That was good.
Quick footage.
That was what?
That was good. Quick footage. That was what?
That was quick footage.
It says this is an XR promo video advertisement for Bigfoot head shop in Oklahoma.
Man, I thought they fucking found him.
I don't think there's much advantage or to gain by people doing fake big foot footage now.
Cause I don't even think, I don't think you'll get a lot of views.
Nobody cares. Nobody believes it. Nobody believes it. Nobody cares. Stop wasting your time.
Yeah. Go put some grease paint on and walk around like a clown if you want to get fucking views and likes.
Pretty much. That's definitely the way to go. Move a big foot.
Oh, there he is. I guess the thing I found out, because an interesting thing about all the AI
and stuff like that, they're like within five years,
you, you, and you, either one of us
is gonna be able to make movies on a computer,
complete fucking movies on our computers,
and they're gonna look real.
I thought that the strike put that on hold,
that no one's allowed to do that?
From the movie studios to do that.
You and me, we could do whatever the fuck we want.
They won't allow us to do it either then.
No, of course they got no say in the matter.
Oh, they'll come down, they'll figure out a way
that they'll make it illegal for private citizens
to make movies, AI movies, I'm telling you.
But how, and what law, that's the silliest thing give here of cha-ching
I think but who's cha-ching like who's money pay you off the software people
To it no way I I mean we go with that if you want, but no fucking way
It's out of the bag Jeannie. They'll never let that Jeannie fully out of the bottle. You are wrong that Jeannie is always look like shit
No, it'll always look like shit. I'll never look like a real movie. My friend made this in less than five minutes. We were talking about a witch thing the other day and he texted me ten minutes later and he just I mean and for the guys at home it's like a shot. Oh that looks good. It's just. But that's a still photograph. No it's not she's moving. She's smiling. I know she's moving. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. She's smiling. shot. Oh, that looks good.
It's just, it looks- But that's a still photograph that they-
No it's not, she's moving, she's smiling.
I know, she's moving, but-
Her hair's blown, her eyes are opening.
You know how they do that, right, with the
software though?
But the point is that this is what he's doing in
five minutes while he's paying attention to me on
the, on the phone.
Like there's no, I'm talking to people at Warner
Brothers who were like, we're all fucked. Because'm talking to people at Warner Brothers who were like we're all fucked
Anybody can make anything at this within five years. We're all gonna have the ability to make anything
It'll be illegal because you don't own that that that image of that witch because that was pulled from the internet
everybody's photos will now be
Illegal doesn't use doesn't AI put a spin on it though? Like it's not really the same photo?
Yeah, and all you'll get is people being like,
no, I consent to use it.
I'll draw a witch here, use it.
And it's like, that's it.
What's more powerful than Hollywood?
What industry is more powerful than Hollywood?
Why do you think Hollywood's powerful?
They're floundering, they're falling apart now.
They got nothing.
I'm telling you.
They're all running for fucking cover, man.
They're all panicking.
Because of some software that people will make their...
Dude, it's not...
You can't...
There are shots now that you can make that five years ago would have cost Industrial
Light and Magic over half a million dollars to make that you could make in zero time on
your computer.
It's done.
It's cooked.
Really?
Cooked.
Are you calling Hollywood dead by
In ten years, I think if they don't they're gonna have to learn how to monetize that
Yeah, but they're fucked but they're funny know that the the special effects industry the fucked the writers the actors
Will band together even the most powerful unions on the planet from doing it
They'll find a way any more than they could stop us from
buying a camera and making a movie in it with a camera. Do you remember something called
the car that ran on water? The technology is already here. Nobody's driving around.
So what's the technology that an engine that could run on water? And they killed that.
Right. But you know what the problem with the car that runs on water is is you if that makes cars
so available
That anybody can feel water you still need oil to grease the gears
You still need oil to like make the parts like it ups
It's the water powered car is not the silver bullet that kills everything it makes things worse
Because it actually makes a higher demand for oil than was before
worse because it actually makes a higher demand for oil than was before because now there's so many more cars everybody's got a car that runs on water why are there so many more cars then because
what's the barrier like what's the barrier to cars like having to pay for fuel and shit like that
so right now you think there's people who don't own cars because they can't afford the gas? Yeah. Yeah. Or have no access to gas.
But I imagine the water cars, in short,
will probably be cost prohibitive at first
until they get the cost down on the manufacturing.
Sure, but what does that mean?
We're talking about a long timeline.
You know what I'm saying?
I just see these industries when major, major change is on the
precipice, the precipice, um, somebody finds a way rules and regulations come
into play and all those advancements all of a sudden are forgotten about.
And remember that video that Q showed us?
I know I don't remember it.
This cartoon right here. And remember that video that Q but like, you know,
somebody else is gonna be like, alright, well I'm not-
Somebody at home is gonna make a Batman movie.
Well they're gonna make a superhero movie and we're all gonna be like, fuck, there's
no rules? Like you can make whatever the fuck you want and you don't have to take studio
notes? Like Nolan, not that he probably gets notes anymore, but like, if he has the power whatever the fuck you want and you don't have to take studio notes like Nolan not
that he probably gets notes anymore but like if he is the power to just make the
movie by himself on his computer and not deal with notes and get to do the
purest vision of what he wants out why wouldn't he do it and sell it directly
two dollars you can watch my new a superhero movie two dollars that's where
we're headed that's a bargain that's a bargain for BQ Supermovie.
Even better, Christopher Nolan's superhero movie. Yeah, it's a matter of time. It's not even like
within five years. Will you be allowed to see it?
Within 10 years, this whole thing is going to be blown open and the technology is going to be
insane. Do you buy that?
I think so. I mean, it's already,'s, it's already, it's, it's like, since the AI was introduced
on a larger scale, like chat GPT and stuff, it's, it's blossomed.
What we're seeing right here.
It looks like the very first photograph.
And if you put it up against what Hollywood, like Edison and
his cat's box and there's something.
Yeah.
It's so crude. it's so crude.
It's that's because you're looking at the early version of it.
I don't know if 10 years is enough time to.
I think three years is enough time.
I'm being 10 just to cut ahead to my bets.
This thing is learning every fucking keystroke.
It is learning more and more and more and more.
And you're and you advocate for that, though, as somebody who works in the industry.
I mean, look, when the bullets coming your way, you can fucking advocate it for not,
it's going to blow you away. It's going to come down to like, it's going to come down to
talent making the best thing. I don't even know if it's necessarily a bad thing. Like why not?
Because it'll put a lot of people out of work.
That's the nature of technology, right?
It's what the industrial revolution did.
So computers doing I drove here.
I go through fucking, I used to drive through five tollbooths.
I drive through zero now.
Right.
But look, but haven't we learned the lessons from the past though?
It's like, if you eliminate everyone's job,
we're fucked at the society's. Well, we're not talking about everybody's job.
You're talking about the people that brought you,
name the movie that you don't like.
What did you say about Star Wars before?
Oh yeah, but you gotta lump them in with the guys
who used to bring your bowling ball back to you.
No, you don't because-
When you're bowling now you-
Pin monkey.
Yeah, now you have an automated system
that rolls the ball back to you. I'm talking about my job here
I don't want to be lost either but like you got to fight it man. There's no fire
I will make another season of jokers
Like it's all anybody's talking about out there and everybody does what I just did to you pull out the phone
Look what they're making right now. Look and everybody's panicked
Really? Yeah
panicked
I mean I they would know more than I would about it
but I still feel that the the the movers and the shakers the people that you don't even know about if
The right people will squash
this.
I mean, look, they're going to still have the money to promote in a way that regular
people aren't going to do. They're going to sell distribution methods that regular
people won't have. But even that I think is just because all somebody's got to do is make
a hit movie by themselves. And for people to be like, this is fucking awesome. Watch
this. What's what's happening to South Park? Watch this is fucking awesome, watch this, what's with having a South Park?
Watch this, watch this, watch this,
every South Park spread.
Once enough people, once there's a critical mass with that
and people are trained to start taking shit
like this seriously and it's good.
What about directors?
What about?
They're directing the movie.
No, but like, you know,
the directors that we grew up with,
the directors who, you know, don't have, like, they have to make the software
so cost prohibitive that the common man can't.
But why?
To save the fucking universe.
What universe?
The universe that, or also nobody will be able to do anything if we're going
to allow computers to do everything. But I'll tell you what, if I went to the movies, it wouldn't matter to me if it was an AI written
script or a human written script as long as I liked the movie.
That just wouldn't bother me either way.
I know, but that's the mindset that allows us to ship all our jobs overseas or to just bring automation in.
And then we have struck with people that are like,
well, what about me?
You know, you got your fucking movie you like,
but now I can't eat.
You happy?
Go to the movies, get some popcorn.
Come see the movies.
I can't afford it, I don't have a job.
Oh shit.
Does your car run on water?
Well, yeah.
I mean, look, I don't love it.
I don't love the idea of people being replaced by computers.
That, you know, it's pretty horrific.
And what Ginnem's typing right now looks like something out of my nightmares.
Um, but, but it, where it's just a matter of time for the technology is perfect.
Perfect.
Or maybe the government, or somebody has to like go in and sabotage it all, put a
virus in and just like wipe out this technology.
I guess. I mean, there have to be an unbelievable number of companies working on it. You can't
sabotage them all. You got to make it, you got to fucking make it, make their lives miserable so
they can't, you know, they make regulations. Regulate, regulate, regulate. Government,
government, government. That's what we need. We need more of it.
There's been another school shooting. Fucking, I'm trying to work on the AI issue here.
Spielberg might not be able to make a fucking movie next year
if we don't do this.
Well, 12 kids are dead.
What did I just tell you?
You regulate them out the ass.
Yeah.
So they're like, fuck it,
it's not worth working on this software.
Yeah, they're like, cause either, you guys could either make a worthy and dead movie
We could all go watch fucking Mobius or wherever the fuck the studio wants to get into our mouths
Like why is that better? Look man? I'm talking about my job
Finally getting some progress in my career, man. I don't like that I'm gonna be supplemented by a computer.
I hate it.
But on Jokers you could, I mean, like,
they couldn't AI you guys.
They wouldn't AI the punishments.
He'll come to a point, though.
Yeah, you know.
Cue's too loud, he's too much of a problem.
I heard there's Joe Rogan podcasts.
Take me out.
Yeah, what's that?
There's Joe Rogan podcasts that he didn't make.
That you just.
Oh, they just use his voice?
Computer generated podcasts like that, the things you like about certain Joe Rogan episodes
and they create one and you can't tell it's his voice and everything.
I read that online somewhere.
It's not great.
That's like damaging for humanity.
You can't believe anything.
That's I think gonna be the bigger problem, not whether a fucking screenwriter is out
of work.
Like you're not gonna be able to believe anything.
I mean, you see it now with like all the Trump stuff and the Hillary Clinton stuff. whether a fucking screenwriter is out of work. You're not going to be able to believe anything.
You see it now with all the Trump stuff and the Hillary Clinton stuff. I see stuff on Twitter all the time, AI, where I'm like, I know it's not real, but I'm like, it sure looks good.
Yeah.
Yeah. Like I said, man, they're going to have to go after hard these software companies that are
making these strides and make it, make it very difficult for them to
continue with these advancements.
You know, we got to go back.
If we got to take 10 steps back before we could take two steps forward.
Okay.
I just want to see Walton C-span.
Luddite emerges from cave, from windowless cave.
Called the TST town junk store.
Oh, it's scary.
It's a scary world.
It's fucking scary, man.
It is out there.
Yeah, like these guys, we're looking at some Trump stuff right now.
A lot of cats for some reason with the, did you put Trump in cats?
No, I just download these ones.
This is just Trump saving kittens from Haitians.
Trump saving kittens and ducks.
And a duck.
But somebody will believe it.
Somebody will believe it.
Yeah, did you see that?
Yeah.
Holy fuck.
He brought a cat up there on fucking stage with him.
It's not great.
It's not great.
But they said, but I heard Facebook is like, you're just going to be able to start making
short films in Facebook in the next like two, three years.
It's nuts.
It's crazy.
It's scary. Yeah. You's crazy, it's scary.
Yeah, you don't know what it holds. It becomes like, I mean, we say it all the time,
but we don't say it all the time, but it's been said in the past like Terminator 2, you know,
like machines becoming self-aware. And it's like, it doesn't, to me, I would like, I believe it.
I believe a machine could become self-aware.
Why not?
Yeah.
But we used to like scream, you know, and pound our, raise our fist and be like, buy
American. One day we're going to be like, buy human produced content.
Humans versus the robots.
You know, the lines will be drawn. It'll be another division, another divisive thing as you turn your nose up at
somebody who devours content computer generated. It's just another reason to divide us.
Well, the fucking problem is going to be the computer is going to spit out an awesome shot
of Darth Vader fighting in a TIE fighter, jumping out of the landing on a planet, slicing
bitches to shit with fucking laser swords and killing
Rebels and stuff like that and then humans will be like what if the Jedi was a female?
How do you guys feel about that?
Okay, what else you got no no that's the thrust
It's you know and then everybody's gonna be like well
Can I just watch Darth Vader slice up people over there because that seems way more fun
just watched Darth Vader slice up people over there because that seems way more fun.
No.
Yeah.
It's scary. Oh man, you bringing us down Q.
I'm sorry.
Oh God.
He's dropping truth bombs all over the place.
Well, I mean, look, always remember that.
Like I'm repeating what I heard from other people who work in Hollywood.
You got the skinny though.
I do.
I do feel I have the skinny on this
because you have to see the look of fear on the faces.
Yeah, people are fucking nervous.
And I get it, I totally get it.
Well, you know what?
We allowed it to happen to the musicians.
We took away their ability to make money
producing new music.
Hollywood didn't fucking stand up for the
fucking rock stars. They fucking just sat there. Never happened to us. Well, the chickens
have come home.
I said nothing when they came for the Jews.
Nobody wanted to fucking get, I was the only one. If you look back at like history will
prove, I was on the right side of history. Remember? Early on in TSD, I was like, it's
bullshit that you could just take music from people.
Yeah.
The, uh, EMP3, right?
That you're going to be beating, you know, and I fucking changed my total fucking
personality because of that.
My on air personality.
Mom, why's dad acting so weird?
Free music?
I don't know.
That was fucking funny.
Oh man.
See, what else do I got here?
What's Sage being for Halloween?
Something called Mommy Long Legs.
It's from a cartoon she watches,
or like a CGI type cartoon.
Oh no.
Yeah, I know.
They got her too?
They got her already, yeah.
Called Poppy's Playhouse.
And it's like, it's the one character in the whole show
where they don't have a fucking costume
at Spirit of Halloween.
So you had to make it.
So, not me, Mary Beth is gonna make it.
Yeah, she's making it right now. So, yeah, she doesn't really like trick or treating though.
That's why I don't understand why she wants to get dressed up because she gets
dressed up, she goes to Pam's house, that's it.
She doesn't like trick or treating.
She doesn't eat candy.
Yeah.
So kind of pointless.
I have two people in my house going out trick or treating this year for Halloween.
Oh, yeah?
Alicia is going to be going out for Halloween for the first time in many years and taking Teddy,
our dog, as some sort of Mario characters.
That's fun.
Oh really?
How the hell do you know Mario? I can't believe that she's even aware of Mario.
I think Mario is like-
It just had that hit movie. I mean, it was the biggest movie in the world. Oh really? I thought that shit was over, man. I thought Mario was like- They just had that hit movie. I mean, it was the biggest movie in the world.
Oh, really? I thought that shit was over, man. I thought Mario was like-
That movie just chrispratted the voice of Mario.
It was like bunch of funny shit.
I took a lot of shit for calling him Mario. Evidently, it's Mario.
Mario?
That's, yeah.
Who takes your name?
Mary Beth is like, Mario. I'm like, yeah, isn't that his name? It's Mario. All right. All right.
Yeah.
We don't, we don't get any trick or
treaters at Halloween.
It kind of sucks.
That's why I like to go to Pam's house.
Cause it's the houses are closer together.
So if people actually go there, I don't have a sidewalk now.
It's like, nobody's coming to my house.
Same thing on my street.
There's no sidewalk.
You never get anybody.
My wife continues to buy two big giant bags of candy,
fill them up. We usually put the bowl on the porch so people can just take in during the
doorbell and bother the dogs. But usually nobody watches them on the ring.
The bowl never diminishes.
Never diminishes.
Huh.
Yeah.
Well, usually when like my, my mother will do the same thing.
She'll buy like huge bags of candy, fill up this big bowl and then like three people come.
So like when the kids come, I'm just like, take as much as you, I'm not kidding.
When I say take as much as you want, take as much as you want.
You want the whole fucking bowl?
Take it.
Leave the bowl.
Yeah.
Yeah. You've many years you've gone out and you've done the New York City Parade.
Yeah, I love it.
Are you doing a Halloween parade this year?
I was supposed to have a float in the parade this year.
Your own float.
My own float.
What the fuck?
I know. What's going on over here?
I know. Anybody can do it. You just got to pay.
And then, and then, um, and, uh, I got casted something.
Talking about fucking disposable income.
You know what I might have on this year?
My own personal float.
Right, yeah.
Well, no, what you do is you invite people on
and you'd be like, hey, if you wanna come on the float,
it's 50 bucks or a hundred bucks on paper.
Unfortunately, I had to tell you this too,
I'm gonna be out in California for Halloween this year.
I got cast in something I gotta go through.
Really?
Small, not even worth.
Not even worth mentioning?
Not even worth mentioning. No.
But I, you know.
So you'd be spending Halloween out on the West Coast?
Yeah, unfortunately.
I would have been on that god damn float.
You should go ask the piss bandit.
Oh, shoot.
Oh, that is awesome.
Only the West Coast would get it.
Yeah. Oh, you might be right.
And they don't have that at Spirit Halloween.
They do have those Spirit Halloween, like the fake costumes.
I'll bet you BS Jack can make a piss bandit fake costume
for Spirit Halloween.
That'd be pretty easy.
Yeah, I could do that.
I don't even know what I'm doing.
I think when we were out in LA for
Halloween, I never remember anything going on like this, parties that I'll never get invited to here
or there. Yeah. Well, West Hollywood has a huge parade.
Do they? Oh, yeah. It's like so huge that it's hard to get into the actual area.
Or at least when I lived there, which was Christ going.
It wouldn't make sense. Heavy gay area. Those guys, they love to party. They love to party, yeah.
Yeah.
What was that?
I don't know.
You doing anything or nah?
Halloween?
Yeah, sitting around.
I wish I had a party to go to.
Yeah, sorry about the parade.
Yeah, what can you do, man?
Throw your own party, potty.
I should, but who would come?
Not me. Not you. Q's out in West Coast.
California.
Giddens would come.
Would you come get him?
Hell yeah.
Yeah. Lots of candy.
Oh, you're going to have to have some candy and addy, I think. You're not going to get in the
come with just candy.
Fill up his pillowcase with 90s.
Yeah.
No, no costumes we shouldn't wear.
Nothing. No, no guidance for us.
I'm what we have our Halloween episode.
When are you going?
Because that really is going to refactor in.
No, no, I think I'm like flying out like the day before Halloween or something.
We're really trying to, I'm, I'm fucking busting my ass to get this
Halloween episode, fucking coordinated with a special guest.
And it's been difficult.
So we might have to go to plan B,
but we'll wait till the zero hour
before pulling the plug on the original idea.
Yeah.
But I don't wanna wait too long if you're out of town though.
Well, like I said, I think I fly out like October 30th.
So yeah, and that might change.
We got a couple weeks at least, I think, at least two weeks, right?
Today's only the 10th, right?
Yeah, we got time.
And even then, like originally we were supposed to shoot on the 7th of November, then it was
moved to November 1st.
So it might get moved, you know, who knows?
So I might even end up being home, but I just can't lay out for the float.
I almost forgot to ask you, I want to ask you this for weeks.
Do you still have that motorized thing that you used to ride on like a little Segway thing?
Yeah.
Gideon wants to know if he could borrow that for his rounds.
Yeah, I'll bring it.
Awesome.
What's the weight limit on that?
It would cut his time in half.
Well here's the thing, is that? It cut his time in half. Well, here's the thing.
Is that the only exercise this motherfucker's getting?
Cause I don't wanna take it,
I'm not giving it to him if that's it.
It is the only exercise.
Then no, I'm not giving it to him.
It's a test.
It would be easier to go from the couch to the desk.
To be honest with you,
I would be afraid for his safety.
He's not the most nimble person.
No?
He's not?
No, and I would be afraid of you being injured.
Come on.
Dude, you can barely walk.
Now you think you're going to get out of a
Segway and you're going to be able to
maintain your balance you think?
If you've ever been on one before.
Yeah, at the studio, at the store.
At the store?
Oh, that was a long time ago and in about
fucking, I don't know how many pounds lighter
you were about that.
If I brought it, you would have, you'd
have to sign a waiver.
Yeah, I'd have to be totally not responsible.
How would you be responsible?
Dude, I don't know, but I want it in papers saying he knows that obviously when he cracks
his head open.
No, if that's the only exercise he gets, I can't give it to him.
This guy.
No, look at him.
Do you need to get out there and walk? Are you sure?
Yeah. I gotta do something with that thing though.
Have you used it?
I charged it over the summer and I went around my yard with it and I was like, what am I gonna do now?
Sell this thing?
No ads this week, huh? I'm gonna fucking sell this thing.
No ads this week, huh? It's my gift to the listeners.
Wow!
And my finger.
Give it up for Brian Johnson.
And my finger, double middle fingers to Reddit.
I wanna hear some positive shit.
Gifting is the listeners.
Giving back.
Yes.
So check us out next week when we have eight commercials.
They're not going to say anything positive.
No, they won't.
And you can't go. I don't know why this is hard. You're not allowed to go. You're not allowed to
be told what they're saying. Has he still been doing that?
No, I get it. He doesn't tell me anything. Even Rupert has cooled on that.
All right, good, good, good, good, good. Is life better?
No. No? No, because I don't really, good, good. Is life better? No.
No?
No, because I don't really care what Reddit says.
Like it doesn't really bother me.
Because we were just talking about it the other day
and there's somebody was on there being like,
I haven't listened in eight years
and fucking I can't stand him.
Eight years?
Yeah, it's just like.
I'm not even the same person I was eight years ago.
Yeah, I know.
So it's like that kind of shit where I'm like,
I think some of these people just don't listen,
but they just don't like me or you or Walter, what all three of us for whatever reason.
If you hadn't listened to a podcast in eight years, why would you go to the, to the.
That was the question. Yeah.
That is a weird one.
You can't believe some of the shit they've been saying about you.
Yeah.
In the past.
I'm saying I'll play fiddle.
I really couldn't even defend it.
Yeah.
Yeah. They were talking about how you're a typical New Yorker rooting for the Mets when
everybody knew you're a Yankee fan.
But I'm rooting for the Yankees too.
You can't do that as a New Yorker.
Sure you can.
You can't root for both teams.
As long as it comes to the subway series.
That's called hedging your bets.
No, if it comes to the subway series, I'm rooting for the Yankees.
Yeah, but you have to be a hater of the New York Jets.
New York, I mean, I like New York.
This is like what bothers me on Sunday, Jeff.
You roots for the Giants and the Jets.
And I'm like, fuck wit.
You can't fuck with them for both.
It's just not right.
I mean, you can.
No, it's not the way it works.
Why?
Because you have to hate that other team.
But why?
That's just the way it's always been.
You're for one team or the other.
You can't be for both because then it's like, it's just, it's called the safety net.
Oh, if my, if I, one of my 17 teams doesn't win, well, then I still have 16 others to root for.
What's work, what's work.
What's wrong with the safety net?
Because it's like, because you're supposed to posting it's not like I'm like Arizona through the fucking misery and the pain
If you never go through the misery and the pain that you can't fucking rejoice when I finally dude
I'm a fucking Yankees fan like what pain am I going through?
There's no pain. There's no pain to feel except though we didn't win
That's why people can't stand it though that you're like now that you're a Yankee fan
And yet you're also a Mets fan that once every 30 years when they're good.
Wow. I was talking about the Mets last year and they were not good lesser and they weren't
going to just start of the season. No, no, they were fucking, they were, they were shit
in the bed.
So you're telling me you're going to continue to root for the Mets. Absolutely. Up until
the point that it becomes a subway series. Then you'll put your Yankee hat on exclusively and you'll actively root against the Mets
and wished for their downfall. Then I will. Yeah. Yeah. But until then, I don't know if
that's good enough. For who? The unwritten rules of sports. And if you don't follow them, you will get fucking called out.
Okay.
On Reddit, if I don't go, I don't care.
You also got called out because I think you pronounced somebody's name is Alonzo
versus Alfonso or, or the other way around.
There was some player.
Yeah.
Pete, Pete, yeah, sure.
I could see that.
Yeah.
They got on me for that, but I, they got on me for somebody got on me for like mispronouncing neuropathy, I guess, but I can see that. Yeah. They got on me for that. But they got on me for, somebody got on me for like
mispronouncing neuropathy, I guess. But I don't remember saying it. I don't remember the context.
And I was like, I just would like to meet this guy. I would like to be like, I want to see you on
mic for 15 fucking years and not mispronounce a word, you fucking piece of shit.
Well, so that I would be like, dude, half of my time on this podcast is spent making fun of me
and the way I talk, what a mush mouth I am. So now I mispronounce things, now you're like,
oh, he's a hunk of d***.
Yeah, he's so stupid.
Yeah.
I'm smart.
I mean.
You got me, guys.
You got everybody on who said that about me.
You got.
The P word.
A pussy?
No worse.
Poser?
Poser was bandied about.
Okay. All right. Fine bandied about. Okay.
Fine, I'm a poser.
In what way?
In what way?
Again, because you root for two teams.
Yeah.
It's not the way you fucking do it in this world.
It's one or the other.
You can't have both.
You can't have your cake in two.
Here's getting pulled up Reddit.
So love listening to Cuban, don't know about baseball.
And Pete, why is he hopping on the Mets player?
He sits in it.
He's a New Yorker.
They always do this shit.
Front running losers who hedge their bets when it comes time for the playoffs.
That's what Walt just said.
Yeah.
Stan Lillard is a part of New York City.
Because, because at the end of the day, you're going to have something to be happy about.
What a horrible thing.
What a horrible thing.
Oh no.
Oh, oh no. I have something to be happy about!
What a goddamn problem!
That adults playing a game has made me happy!
And Reddit doesn't like it!
Reddit does not like it!
What a shame!
God forbid. They don't want to see like you be able to have this safety net of happiness though.
You could like, or you could be excited.
Like you know, that's just not right.
It's cruel.
What's worse?
What Q's doing?
They're popping it in their face.
But Gideon, why do you keep pulling this stuff up?
I've told you I don't want to see it.
Like, I don't want it in my life.
So, like, why are you pulling it up?
I think he took his cue because, ironically,
he took his cue from me talking about it.
I only brought it up because I know,
because it's so fucking absolutely ridiculous
that someone's mad about that.
I mean, they are really, when they are complaining
about that, then you know, you're doing okay though.
They've run out of other shit to complain about.
If that's the worst they could say about you. Yeah.
Yeah.
Then you're doing fine.
And it's like, look, here's what happened.
You don't have to explain it to you.
We shot at city field a few times.
I got to know the players, some of the players
got to know some of the crew that works there. Some of the staff that goes there, they invited me to games. What am I going to know the players, some of the players, got to know some of the crew that works there, some of the staff that goes there,
they invited me to games.
Where am I gonna go?
Being like, huh, I'm here, but I'm a Yankee fan.
Like, fuck you, no, it's like.
Well, to be fair, Q, I was on a TV show once too.
A lot of people forget.
But.
And if they were like, hey, the Rangers
wanna do a segment with you and they want you to come out
and you know, you gotta, you know, put on a hat, I'd be like, Hey, the Rangers want to do a segment with you and they want you to come out and you know, you gotta, you gotta, you
know, put on a hat. I'd be like, no.
Right.
Off.
But you don't like the Rangers.
No.
Well, that's the thing.
Like my dad was a Mets fan when I was growing up.
Like, like there's Mets fans in my family.
So it's okay.
I went, before I started buying, no, I don't think you'd give a fuck. But like, I before
I started buying like, I saw how could you? But like before,
like Sal and I were buying like season ticket packages to the
Yankees in the like 90s and 2000s. I had all my games growing
up or Mets games because my dad would bring me to Mets games. So
it wasn't till high school that I was like started going to more
Yankee games when I started like, started going to more Yankee games,
when I started like going on my own.
Wasn't that kind of, just a coincidence I'm sure,
that is when they're fucking,
No it was before.
They're winning their all those championships again
with Jeter. It was before that.
It was Mattingly who got me into the Yankees.
Oh really?
The hit man, huh?
The hit man.
So I liked Mattingly and then that team,
and then Mattingly left the team
and then that's when they started winning all the things.
So what am I supposed to do?
Bernie Williams.
Yeah.
Paul Williams, no Paul O'Neill.
Yeah.
Paul O'Neill's my favorite ball player of all time.
I love Paul O'Neill, but like.
You don't think it hurts him a little bit
to see you on TV wearing that Metz hat, Paul?
If Paulie could see that.
I don't think so.
I think.
I don't, I don't think Paul has that he's just sitting in his mansion yeah
you know he turns on the TV yeah he's a season just comes across you open it up
with mr. Met fucking BQ coming up with mr. Matt fuck Yogi Barrett himself went
to the Metz so you're saying you're telling me that it's good enough for Yogi.
It's not good enough for Q to sit and stand and eat our free hot dog.
So are you trying to tell me that you think this is just a fan mentality?
This says that the players themselves don't really hate each other and...
Considering they go to whatever team pays them the most, I would say no.
It's probably not. Probably not. No, but look, it's
sports so I understand the shenanigans that they're doing and saying and it's like whatever,
but like who cares a fuck?
People do.
Well, as long as if it comes down to the wire, I pick a side and I'm publicly saying that if it's
Subway series, I go for the Yankees.
Then what's the problem?
I can't just be happy.
You can't just enjoy baseball.
I can't just go to baseball.
No.
City field rolls out the red carpet for me.
Me, Yankee stadium does not do that.
Yankee stadium.
I'm waiting on line with the rest of the fucking normies. You understand?
So your loyalty can be purchased.
Without a doubt. I'm sorry if I, if anybody else had that opinion of me, that I wasn't.
Yes, yes. I go where I'm wanted. I'll always go where I'm wanted. And the Mets, they treat
me really, really fucking good. So between that and the connection I had when I was a kid, I feel in my heart of hearts
that I could look at myself in the mirror
and be like, yeah, I'm a New York fan,
but if it comes down to the wire.
All right.
And if you could sleep at night, knowing
that there's a certain segment of the ants
yeah, who are really upset and turned off
and have come close to disowning you.
Yeah, it's gotten that serious.
And if you can live with that, then I guess then everything's.
I'm comfortable living with it.
Co-shared.
Yeah.
For the same reason, cause like, I'm not a basketball fan and I think like I got to,
I got to start watching basketball.
Um, and I'm like all the people that I know in basketball, the
players are on the Lakers. So to me, I'm like, all the people that I know in basketball, the players are on the Lakers.
So to me, I'm like, well my friends.
Why do you have to start watching basketball?
Because I've made friends with some of these players.
So I'm like, now I'm like, well I wanna watch.
You're friends with fucking LeBron James?
No.
You're friends with little Brony, or Brony?
No, never met those guys, never met those guys.
Who else is on the Lakers?
Anthony Davis.
Still on the teamakers? Anthony Davis.
Still on the team?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, it's considered.
Has he not introduced you to LeBron?
King James?
He met me to a few others, but LeBron, no.
No.
Really?
Yeah.
So, what am I gonna do?
Like, I don't know anybody on the Knicks,
but if the Knicks wanna give me court side seats,
we can start debating this right now on where I stand.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so I don't know.
I understand that I guess people need something to say,
but worrying about what's in...
You know what, they want you to bleed when you get cut.
They want you to bleed pinstripes.
If it's a Subway series and the Mets win, I'll be bumped.
Is that not enough?
Nope.
Because we both know you won't be.
You'll be bumped for like a second. You'll look
over at a stack of money and you'll be like, oh, wow.
Well, if the vets win and they throw a big party celebrating it, what am I, not going
to go and fucking celebrate? This is who I am.
You got to accept it.
Yeah. If you don't like it, I don't't have to tell you. At least I have my reasons.
And you still have your dignity.
Sure.
Why not?
Steve Dabe.