Tell Em Steve-Dave - #628: Keep it Unreal

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

TESD finds themselves in hot water, Bry dreams of a life unlived, broadway, Walt suffers an ‘L’ at the pizza place....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The president just sucked 37 dicks in a row. It's both authentic to myself. Me and, you know, I just kept it real. People respect when you keep it real, you know? He told me he loves me. Tell him Steve, Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell Him Steve, Dave. We've got a full house here. We've got Walt.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yo. And we've got BQ. Hello. BQ. How you doing, buddy? Good. You've got a thousand yard stare. I don't know, like, you tired?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Back to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like back to work on like four different things at once, but it's good. Good things. Good things? Weather's getting warmer. It's in the 50s today, you know? Let's talk a good 20 minutes about the weather to start off this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah, let's wrap it up. Yeah. Did you hear anything about us talking about the weather? I heard us talking about other things that caused mucho problems since the last episode. Weather wasn't one of them. Weather wasn't it? No, I have to, right off the bat, I have to issue an apology to our Canadian brothers and sisters.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We didn't badmouth Canada. Yes, I did. I was insensitive at a point where they're- Are they pussies, these Canadians? What are you talking about? No. Stop, guys. Stop guys, stop. Let me issue you an apology. Wow, get him doing that.
Starting point is 00:01:49 What went down? It was bad. It was bad. Deservedly so. I, I, I made jokes that were insensitive to the issues that are going on between America and Canada right now. Oh, for fuck's sake. Stop. Stop. The Indian brothers and sisters were upset. I got a lot of upset people,
Starting point is 00:02:14 including people who are so sweet and nice. Some of the longest standing listeners sent me an email that basically just broke my heart. Oh man. Yeah, broke my heart saying that she no longer can listen to us because she just finds herself she I just don't like you guys as people anymore. Oh. Because we made a couple jokes about Anex in Canada? I stood up for Canada.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I certainly didn't say. Some people did acknowledge that. Yeah, I didn't say a single bad thing about Canada. I don't know if it was the final straw was Canada. And also some misinformation at the end of the episode. We definitely were wrong about something about free speech in the UK. It wasn't... How the fuck are we going to be right about that? We don't live in the UK. It wasn't- Well, how the fuck are we gonna be right about that? We don't live in the UK. Yeah, I guess what, again- I think we spoke in generalities where we were like, yeah, it's something about like social media.
Starting point is 00:03:13 No, no, it was blamed, again, it was just we didn't do enough homework to weigh in on it. And getting this email- I gotta start doing homework after 15 years? No. Whoa. No, no, no. How much homework do I have to do?
Starting point is 00:03:29 You can follow my lead now. My lead is just going to be, I'm just going to talk about Teddy, my dog, and I'm going to bitch about getting him. I am not going to weigh in on anything that I am not completely versed in because it just upsets people. At the end of the day, that is not the goal. I am not here to make people upset and be like, I'm canceling everything. No Patreon, no more merch. It's it, it's over.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I don't like you guys anymore. How can people not understand that? It's not a serious political show. Well I think that they- You make a couple of jokes of people like, I hate you now? Come on. They didn't say I hate you. Or I don't like you guys anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I find that I just, at the end of the day, I don't like you guys as people anymore. Well if you knew us in the first place as people- I'm not going to say your name, but she was such a supporter, so nice, like you couldn't have found a more nicer person for her to say that. I do think you have to look and see, have we strayed from the mission statement and do we need to course correct? But straight into what? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I'm not following. Just talking about things that at the end of the day don't allow people to enjoy the show as much as they would if we just... How the hell are we supposed to know what those topics are? You were about to say don't talk about things that upset people. Everything upsets somebody. I have never gotten a complaint where like, hey man, you're fucking riding Gittem's balls too hard.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I've never gotten that email. Really? All my main emails are in your spam folder? I bet you never heard any shit about Teddy Talk either. No. I got a good Teddy story this week. That might be the only thing I could talk about. But I'm all kidding aside though. Yeah, like to hear that people are like, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I will never support you guys in any way because you around You know what? It's too new. I guess the wound was too raw and all the implications of Trump making that ridiculous like proclamation that he wants to annex Canada We thought it was as ridiculous as anybody else That's but I shouldn't have made anything besides that's a bad idea. Like we shouldn't upset our neighbors. This is the first time in decades that it's my fault.
Starting point is 00:05:50 A rare L! They've been racking it up. That's so rare lately buddy. I've been having a whole bunch of L's lately. That's why I'm going strictly dog talk and strictly fucking pissing and shit and not get them. Those are why I know where my W's are. That's your wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Can you forward me that email? I'd like to read it. From the long time. Do you really want to hear it? No, no, no. I definitely do. I don't want to tell her name. I don't want you guys to get up.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I know how you guys are. You guys don't like criticism. I know you you guys are. I don't like criticism. I know you guys don't you get fucking very Aggro and defensive and you're ready to fucking burn down. He's already separating himself from us Never something like this happens we always get lumped together. No, I know how you guys handle criticism. You guys never go like, we need some self-reflection. Nope. It's like, oh, fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Fuck the fucker. How do we turn this into a year-long bit? All right, not this time. Not this time. She's too sweet of a person. I got to know later on. I got to know later on. I got to know later on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I could, I mean, you want to give me something right there, 148. Yeah, do you have red at the hand? Okay. Well, I mean, for my part, like, I mean, I apologize to her too. I'm sorry. I didn't know. Let me see. She's writing a name.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Get out of here. Her? Really? Yeah, the sweetest of the hands. That is. I didn't know. Let me see. She's writing a name? Get out of here. Her? Really? Yeah, the sweetest of the hits. Oh, that is. That is. We do need to look at our souls a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah. I wasn't even aware she was jumping out. Now you're changing that tune. I wasn't even aware she was Canadian. I don't even think she is Canadian. I think it was a culmination of just too many talking points that just made her upset with the tone of the podcast. She likes lighthearted kind of personal stories, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Like a lot of listeners who bombard me with like, they don't want to hear us weigh in on the worldview. Who am I? How arrogant is it that I, a fucking failed comic book store manager, defrocked. Defrost by Kevin Smith. That I have enough knowledge that now I can weigh in on all the fucking problems that the world has across the fucking ocean that I'm weighing in.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Well, Canada's not across the ocean, but. Oh, don't talk about the UK. Okay, okay as I recall like it wasn't wasn't what am I missing because all I remember you saying is something about maple syrup that was the joke that's what got it I'm not kidding you Q you can't you just the problem this is why I don't want to – People say – This is not the appropriate response. Okay. I think it's the only response. You have to come with a little bit more humility and your voice has to break a little bit because
Starting point is 00:08:55 But you didn't say anything. I did. I said the maple syrup joke. And it was not the time to make the joke they're saying on a podcast To new so we have to wait a year before we can make maple syrup jokes about taking over Nobody in this fucking room thinks we're taking over Canada That's why we're joking around about no, but the things that Trump is talking about though doing are going to truly hurt Canada and their economy with the tariffs and shit.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And it's not a joking matter. Their way of life and their economy is at stake. And you got us three yokels, you know, fucking sitting there laughing. Cause I've never been made fun of. Oh, it's that victimhood. Online I hear shit about me all the time. I never fucking cry about it.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Hey, remember this name? Oh yeah, that's right. We should put photo time on the wall. I never fucking cry about it. Oh, yeah I'm actually I'm stunned. Yeah, that's why I say it broke. I think I could win her back. No. Yeah, I think so Let me just let this one lie She's never gonna hear this I don't know But I think that the appropriate response and I'm kind of proud of her because I do like her like that's surprising. She's a sweet lady. The appropriate response, I think is what she's doing. She didn't have to write the letter and announce it. But I think like, honestly, if like, that
Starting point is 00:10:18 bothers you. The maple syrup joke doesn't bother you that much. No, no. I think it's a culmination of like about almost over a year she's been having these thoughts of like, I'm not enjoying it the way I used to. I don't like these men the way I used to. And there's nothing we, you know. There are people who I know rail against us online, but still listen to the show and to me that I'm just like well you're simply even if you don't play pay for patreon if you're just giving us that listeners number no is helping there's no they're not what they're listening there look I don't want to also I don't want to get to and
Starting point is 00:10:58 what I'm saying is by just listening to complain is supporting the show they're listening in the hopes that this is the week, and it almost was last week with that maple syrup shit, that they can dance on our graves. They're waiting to dance and they're waiting for that comment that's going to come that's going to be like, that's the fucking start the music. I'm going to do a jig because TSD is dead. I thought the maple syrup was possible. Wow, I didn't realize we came so close.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Do you guys ever think that maybe we should just stop doing this podcast? Never. Because how the fuck is this fun? There's too many people. Like, how is this fun? Depending on us now, though. Yeah, but so what?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like, how is it? Okay, so are you, uh, maybe this show is- Including myself. Yeah, I know. You know, I know you got a television show still. Me and Brian, we were in a cancel for a decade. You can't just do it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 They can't do the concert, because I can't. You can't just do it for that reason. television so still yeah right we were to cancel for They can't do the concert Reason like it's not fun like it's do you have fun? I don't know what it's gonna look like going forward now. You don't like fucking stories about adorable dogs I do I should get them. I don't have a fucking picture that still is hung up that no Chuck. I'm with you I'm with you, but what I'm saying is just like not trying to take away how affected they were by the maple syrup. It's not just ego and glossing over the UK comment too. Sure. Okay. But even the UK comment, like, I don't even like, okay, fine. But like,
Starting point is 00:12:20 to treat this, to say that whatever we talked about is so off. But like there are like Wait, like I just don't believe that we'd ever say anything that was like so crazy but that but my point is like if we if a maple syrup joke is a straw that breaks the candles back and that is what we're podcasting under and These people who don't like the show and don't like us still listen like how is it fun like It's just how is it there? There was a they should be support anybody who thinks that we're bad podcast just by giving us the listener number you're supporting I don't care. So you support what you hate. Yeah, but look what here's here's the support
Starting point is 00:12:59 Do there at the bottom line? No is there was a thread about how many Canadians have canceled their patreon? At the bottom line though is there was a thread about how many Canadians have canceled their patreon Okay, and there was a people wing. I did I did I did I did I did that that has to make you reflect That's like a sponsor for on IJ Like it's like hey the guys we're losing sponsors. Let's write. That's you're right. You're right to put it that way, but but there's a certain point that it just But there's a certain point that it just stops being fun to do a show where you have to watch every single word that you say because a maple syrup joke might... You think I've been doing that since... Have you had maple syrup to both of them?
Starting point is 00:13:34 No, I don't think I have been. Well, yes. I let my guard down. But for the better part of a decade, I've watched my P's and Q's. But if these people want the show to die, is what you're saying. There's some that do. Right. There's some that not all.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I think there's a small percentage, especially on the Reddit, that listen in hopes that something comes out or there's a comment made that that's it. Now they're going to get there. Now they're going to pay. Now they're going to – and that payment is going to be where we lose the ability to make this be our job. Well, that can't really happen. I mean – Of course it can. You get enough – you say it's the wrong thing. I mean we've seen there's people littered. The history is littered with people who said the wrong thing and they never could work again. Yeah, but you look at the most successful podcast on the planet and it's like those people are saying fucking crazy shit that we wouldn't ever say
Starting point is 00:14:33 Who's like I mean not a couple of a comment but like example of the most successful podcast These pockets that are excelling now and it's like they don't I mean you look at any of these pockets that are excelling now and it's like they don't like the maple syrup joke is not even a pimple on what these people say and truly believe. Like you don't believe that Canada is only good for maple syrup? Of course not. You made a joke. I was a joke. But on some of those pockets there are people right now being like, yeah, fuck Canada, blah,
Starting point is 00:15:02 blah, blah. And they're making billions of dollars these people. Billions and millions of dollars. So it's like but they're very divisive I don't want to be that yeah That's fine, but my If we're trying to keep it like a maple syrup joke is a thing that's over the line I understand a certain point you got to ask yourself, like, what is the point of this? I don't know. I remember a BQ that would have been like, yeah, we got to talk about Teddy and fucking only Teddy jokes just a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It wasn't that long ago. It wasn't that long ago. I agree with that. I still agree with that. I don't want to say anything that upsets people but like the line can't be a maple syrup joke. Okay, but it's the misinformation at the end too about the UK. There wasn't an immigrant involved that murdered children. There were tweets or social media posts that incited a riot. There isn't a crackdown on free speech. That along with the incendiary comment about maple syrup. You're right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:16:05 It was the perfect storm of, that caused people to be like, question their love of the podcast. I understand. I understand where you're coming from. And I'm down. Teddy and Giddem, let's do it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm down. Is it too, am I going over the line if I wish Pam a happy 79th birthday today? Of course not, you know that. I don't know anymore. Yes you do. That's what people don't like. But I thought that's what people liked!
Starting point is 00:16:32 I thought people liked that! Seizures fucking sarcasm dripping, can I say happy birthday to my mother? I'm just wondering, you're so fucking sensitive. You never know anymore. You know, you know! You know! You know! You know!
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know! You know! You know! You know! You know! You know! You know! You know! You know! say happy birthday to my mother. I'm just wondering. Yeah, because I'm so fucking sensitive. Yeah. You never know anymore. You know.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You know. That's the thing. You know that you can. So even starting off on that is the starting off on the wrong foot. Look. That's true. Show us a name. Say your name.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Say your name. We speak your name. We speak your name. Except without saying it. Just going to write it up on the wall over there. Oh man. But, Ken, you're saying that people pointed out that I defended Canada. Some people did, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Some people did. Yeah, I don't think you were taking a task as much as I was. Yeah, you said Canada deserved to boo the US. Yeah, all right. Great. And I agree with that too. It was a joke. But I. And I agree with that too. It was a joke.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah. But I won't make jokes like that again. Not at the expense of our northern brothers and sisters. So speaking of Teddy, he's not here today. No, we got Pam in her 79th birthday. Yeah, it's her 79th birthday. In fact, it's today and I came here instead of going over to hang out with Pam. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Oh. This is the only time we could do the show. Did you know that we were walking into this today? No. You didn't know that there was a major backlash to the episode? Not at all. Well, I don't go on Reddit. Well, how many?
Starting point is 00:17:53 I mean, get them. I'm not letting them on Twitter. I go on Twitter. I don't see anything on Twitter about it. Back me up. There was at least four major posts with about 100. The episode has over 300 comments right now. Just the episode.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Oh, wow. All taken it. Taking it on the chin we are. So we'll have to make this episode extra nice. Well, no, I don't think it has to be nice. I don't think they'll want us to lose our, what's the word I'm looking for? Certainly not edge. That's not the word you're looking for. They want to bowl down. When have we been edgy?
Starting point is 00:18:25 I think in the beginning. Really? I think in the beginning. By today's standards, yeah. Maybe not back then. But like if you look at it by today's standards, yeah, we were talking about some stuff. They want us to bust on each other's balls lovingly. They want us to talk about our lives and things that are going on. They can get.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I don't think they want me to talk about my life. I think they do. It's too boring. It's far too boring. I don't do anything. I almost went out to dinner tonight. That's my fault. I didn't go to dinner because I didn't realize I couldn't. So I had to cancel plans five minutes after I made them. I know I'm probably not welcome, but can I offer a suggestion maybe? And maybe put a feeler out to see if the listeners want it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Well, I just want to say this. I think, again, what are they looking for? I think they're looking – they're not looking for us to weigh in on things that they can get those viewpoints in a million other places. They can only get the TSD effect from us and if we're wasting our time weighing in on shit that we're not really informed upon enough, we are wasting time. Sure, I understand. I've gone out of my way not to talk about politics. Some would say that's not true.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Then I want to hear a clip of it. I want to hear people. You want a super clip? I want a mega clip. Yeah, I want a super cut. I've been talking about politics for the past two years. Well, politics now can be even talking about the Canadian booing. The Canadians booing.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Oh, for fuck's sake. That was an important statement. Now I got to run whatever I'm going to say by everybody. I go, hey, is it all right if we talk about this this week the Canadians? Why aren't we upset that the Canadians are bowing us some Americans were upset though some I was out it was just if I wasn't Let me go on record for that. I was not upset that the Canadians booed them anthem But get him as a suggestion yeah now we would be fun to do it's like, this is like just coming for the chastising and finger wagging of the week. Like the rest of the world is moving on from being fucking told what to do and say and
Starting point is 00:20:33 getting their finger wagged. And it's just starting for us. I'm going to come here in a windowless room. Just that fucking anonymous people tell me why I'm an asshole and what's wrong with me and what I said was wrong. And they think they're right. It wasn't you though. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But Gideon, we would be absolutely fools to not take advantage of having a genius on our list. Tell us what we should do. I say we give him complete creative control of the show. Just wondering maybe if people have problems, like major news outlets do, you can offer correction in the next episode. A retractive? Retraction, correction in the next episode. Acknowledge your mistake and I think that maybe helped.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Well, we did today. They maybe helped. Yes, but I'm saying anytime in the future. If a comment is made that's incorrect, you address it in the next episode and apologize for being incorrect. Well, they said- And maybe that will help mend bridges. Well, some of the comments I saw were like, why can't your fat ass do that in the moment?
Starting point is 00:21:32 And they said, I didn't, it wasn't me saying that. It was them saying that. Like, why aren't you- Somebody else says he's a fat ass. Why aren't you doing something? Like, why aren't you looking up what they're talking about, then you can correct us in the moment? Because I've also had comments where I get yelled at for distracting you guys by putting stuff up on the screen.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Well, no, no, yeah, don't point it up on the screen. Just be like, hey guys, you know what? And interrupt the podcast. Ruining the flow. And last episode was so great because the guys just ignored Gittem and just kept on going and didn't listen to his blather. Oh boy. Mixed opinions. What are you going to do? Listen to all of them and adjust to every single one.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Of course correct at every moment. But I mean, look, I just don't understand how people, if they feel like we're saying the wrong things or spreading misinformation and you continue to listen to the show, you're supporting the problem that you claim to hate. So maybe just live by your convictions and don't listen to the show anymore. It doesn't have to be a big thing. No, it's fine. Why would you support something that you actively don't like?
Starting point is 00:22:44 You know, don't like? Don't. Because then everything that's done on this show, if you continue to listen to it, everything that's done on this show, you're cosigning by supporting and listening. So the only way to really show how you morally superior to us is to just go away. Yeah, but then if they're on Patreon, though, then it's- That's all right, man. Well, that's where we... We ain't getting new listeners though. We're only losing old ones.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Well, that's where it's on us to... Well, this is where they're right. It's like it's on us to create a show that's not shedding listeners. Okay. Yeah. All right. So, I don't know how you... This is almost like episode one of the new Tell them Steve Dave.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Oh, can this not be reinventing? Can you imagine? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I I hate this. This is almost like episode one of the new Telling Steve Day. Reinventing. Can next week's be the rebranding of the all new Telling Steve Day show? I like that. I think we rebrand with Q at one time. Well, Q the laughs. All right. Let's do another.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Look, comics go to issue number one all the time. Yeah. Let's start next week. Comic books. Comic books. Right. Comics. Let's start next week. Comic books. Comic books, right, comics. Let's build bridges, man.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Let's start off. We want to kill the old numbering. No way. Like this is the final. No way. You like the old number. Why? What is the benefit of having those numbers?
Starting point is 00:23:56 That many? 600 episodes. What's the benefit of that? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'm just curious how you see it. I think people have been like, okay, they've been around for a while. They're not new. Just on a personal level, I like to know that we've banked this many episodes. I mean, God knows how much Patreon.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's not going to go away if we just start over with a number one. Maybe it's not so daunting of somebody to be like, oh my God, 600 episodes. I cannot fucking get into a podcast that's 600 episodes. We talked about this and we tried to To go back and do like a primer. Mm-hmm. We got like five minutes in and we were like fuck it Just go listen to the fucking show if you want to know A lack of effort though, that's like, you know, we're not putting in the proper effort though All right tune in next week for 15 years worth of history. We'll catch up
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yeah, I like the challenge of it. Oh, you're right Walt. I think like if you drop the defensiveness There's some there's been some good points made. I Just don't I think because I'm the type of person if I see shit on TV that makes me mad or something in the news that makes me mad It like I don't Like say bill burr bill burr has has becomes kind of woke in the news that makes me mad. Like say Bill Burr. Bill Burr has become kind of woke in the past. Here he goes.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Two years. This is the last episode. He can do it. Not once did I think of writing into Bill Burr or letting anybody know that I don't like Bill Burr anymore. You have made it known that you don't like people going woke though. You constantly rail about Stephen King. You have a platform. You don don't like people going woke though. You constantly rail about Stephen King. You have a platform.
Starting point is 00:25:26 You don't need to go on social media. You have that microphone to tell the world what you don't like. And then they don't want to hear it. No. So stop. No, they don't want to hear it anymore. I'll just talk about things I like. That'll be so fucking interesting to everyone.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Talk about Norm. Talk about Norm. Norm and Teddy. Norm and Teddy News every yeah. Norm and Teddy. Norm and Teddy News every week. Norm, Teddy, Boris? Boris, yeah. Now we're shaping it into something I like.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I'm not saying it has to be exclusively about that, but I think people really like hearing our accounts of our life and where we're at and what's going on. What are you talking about? I start talking about my life, I get told I'm name dropping and I'm fucking big time. Gallivanting. Can you, alright, but, can you? Can't you stop talking about all the stars he knows?
Starting point is 00:26:13 I know, like what do you want me to do? Like, he's out of touch. It's like, what does that mean? I have the solution. Who out of touch? With you? I have the solution. Who the fuck cares? Yeah. The solution is insert a different name for that celebrity and if the story is still as interesting, if it's not a celebrity, then tell it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, but like how do you tell a story about like getting fucking, because I never, you're right, you're absolutely right. I'm not right though. I mean it's just a thought. I'm just a suggestion. Yeah, you're right. I'll try I'll try to replace celebrity names would like to tell Joe oh can't even use your people all right there's plenty of names I'll find I'll find the
Starting point is 00:26:54 name a name for that yeah okay okay what's the matter again You're hitting the microphone, Keb. I was shooting the right shot. I know I tell you to stop doing that. I didn't interrupt the show. All right. Well, now we're- So happy birthday to Pam. I- Yeah. 79 years.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Is she on the New York Times bestseller? Because every motherfucker I know is emailing me saying, I picked up the book. Is she up there? I don't know if she's on there yet, but she has to be on some kind of bestseller list because same thing. I couldn't be more appreciative to anyone who has supported her. And there are people that are like, hey, man, I'm just buying the book. I'm probably going to be on the book. I'm going to be on there yet, but she has to be on some kind of bestseller list because same thing, I couldn't be more appreciative to anyone who has supported her. And there are people that are like, hey man, I'm just buying the book.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I'm probably not going to read it. Who cares? That's fine. Yeah. As far as she's concerned, it's a sale and she's very happy with the way people are turning out. Yeah. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Listeners I've seen are promoting the book saying they picked it up. TSD Town Residence, Nichelle sent me a text being like, I picked up the book. Yeah. it up. TSD town residents, Nichelle sent me a text being like, I picked up the book. Yeah, he sent me a picture of himself with it. Yeah, she's very appreciative. He said it's not his go-to genre. I can see that. Why do you think Nichelle doesn't have elves and fantasy in his toolbox? Too much of an alpha.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Really? She probably has too much pussy. You think it an alpha. Really? Too much pussy. You think it comes down the net? Yeah, I do. Guys who are like, wait a minute, would comics fall into the genre of fantasy? Not anymore. Because you're the outlier then. You wouldn't have a need to spend a Friday night at home reading your comics?
Starting point is 00:28:23 No, I made it a badge of like like I made it cool in my personal circle. And how did you do that because I couldn't pull that off? It's both authentic to myself. Me and you know I just kept it real. People respect when you keep it real. I had enthusiasm for it. I was a fucking I took shit for reading comics all through high school, college, my 20s, even in the start of jokers like if you watch some of those early episodes you see them ripping on me for fucking It's Superman tattoo, but then
Starting point is 00:28:54 Now those jokes now who wants to be at the Deadpool premiere and who wants All that shit that I got made fun of for years is like is cool now and now they're ruining it of course that I got made fun of for years is like, is cool now and now they're ruining it, of course, but that comes with the decimals. Did you see Captain America? I did not. I saw it. What do you think? Because I had a waiter yesterday who loved it and he was like, you have to go see it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I didn't love it. Okay. I heard it was terrible. I didn't think it was terrible. I just am shocked that it's a sequel to a 17-year-old Incredible Hulk what those my mind like a direct sequel right like it's more about that than anything You have to see that Hulk movie to fuck and follow what's going on, and I think that is Insane that that was the judgment and that was the like the writers room or whoever's the big wigs are like yeah You know what I think is a good idea. Let's base it upon a 17-year-old
Starting point is 00:29:45 Hulk movie that nobody remembers and nobody really liked. Yeah, it's both. Ballsy, but it didn't do the trick. I feel a Captain America movie should be about Captain America. And he should warn his own foe, at least, his own villain. And it didn't have that in it. There was moments that were really good and there are moments that weren't that good and if I was Disney I would just be like Stop wasting time showing out the heroes fighting just normal dudes in Fatigue well you have to do that with this Captain America. He doesn't have superpowers But he's got the he's got the wings
Starting point is 00:30:23 He's he could fly he's more than capable of beating up a couple soldiers. That's why he was a great falcon. He was a great falcon. There's a new falcon in this too. Has he? Uh. I don't mean to assume it's a he. On this time, your assumption would be correct. But let's not do that again in the next episode. You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:43 You got lucky. But let's not do that again Think you're not taking it seriously no now with that shot. Which one? Yeah. You're right. You're right. Yeah, I, I like Anthony Mackie. I like him. He was really good. I like him as Falcon. I wish they had gone with Bucky as captain. I can't get over how wrong I think the choice they made is where Bucky is from the same era has fucking superpowers has a connect is the op it like to take cat if you replace Captain America and you replace him with his mirror opposite exact mirror opposite that to me is fucking awesome you know what I mean like that and it worked in the comic like when he was Captain America is a great storyline Falcon is is he's he's
Starting point is 00:31:43 a great Falcon like I don, he didn't need to become Captain America. Like, the story, like, I don't know, it just wasn't there. But you know how Disney has been accused of forcing social issues? I believe this was the one that was actually worthy of telling on a big stage of an African American becoming Captain America and part of the country being like, Oh, Captain America that I recognize. And another part of the country being like, you're not worthy to be Captain America. Oh, you've got a lot of that in the movie. No, but I'm surprised they didn't though. They kind of did that in them. They said they did it in the TV show, which I barely remember. But is it worth seeing? I've
Starting point is 00:32:24 seen worse Marvel movies. Oh, I'm going to see it eventually. Yeah. I'll probably. But is it worth seeing? I've seen worse Marvel movies. Oh, I'm going to see it eventually. Yeah, I'll probably see it when it comes home. You probably should see it. There's a Red Hulk floating. No, like I'm not, but let me be clear. I'm not like, why is he Captain America? I'm just talking as a comic book fan and having knowing both those storylines, the Winter Soldier becoming Captain America is a way richer vein. Yes, but the Falcon, Sam Wilson has become Captain America though too in this comic. Yeah, but even that storyline isn't as good as when Bucky became Captain America.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But hey, I don't have any problems with him being Captain America. He's my captain. You sound like you're on defense of him. Yeah, he's my captain now. That doesn't sound good. Dude, I will salute Anthony Mackie when I see him in the streets. I will. Stop saying it though, because then it just feels weird that you keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, then you're overcompensating. He's cool. Why would he be cool? There's no reason he wouldn't be cool. Why would he be a great Captain America? I don't understand. He doesn't need superpowers. I think they took Bucky, since they're making him in that Thunderbolts movie.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That's a lot of Bucky then. I don't think they should have done that, because I don't think they should take Bucky and put him into Suicide Squad Like Bucky's too good of a character to be like the Cutsides Squad I mean doesn't that just look like like hey, it's our Suicide Squad everybody like not saying it won't be good But like I I don't know I think a better place for him to go would have been as Captain America Plus his Captain America outfit was fucking dope. Remember Alex Ross designed it and it looked so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But hey, you know what though? That's just a personal choice. It's got nothing to do with anything or anybody or anybody or any history of anything. We got an ad. We don't have any ads. No ads. Ad free. Ad free Friday. On purpose, right? On purpose. As an apology. As an apology. Was it because everybody dropped us?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah. All the sponsors are like, we're out. The Ponder Pills are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We heard about that maple syrup shit. No, no ads today. Juggled them around so it could be an ad free episode. Okay. So what do you got going on at the Johnson household since Wes saw you?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Well... I'm saving my teddy story for last. I did actually get an ad to come out on a strong note. How was Sage's birthday? Aside from doing basically nothing, I did get a cortisone shot yesterday in my knee after a year and a half and it really made me wonder. I was sitting there and I was thinking about it for a long time, how much different my life would have been if instead of giving me opiates, the doctor had just given me a
Starting point is 00:34:58 cortisone shot because it works perfectly. I wasn't even aware that a cortisone shot would do something like that. But like my knee, like my knee was so locked up. I couldn't walk. I was like, this is about a year and a half ago. I was, you know, when I would come in here and I would like gimping around, had my cane, all that shit. It was all just because of arthritis in the knee. And the last time the guy gave me the cortisone
Starting point is 00:35:19 shot in the knee and it worked perfectly. Year and a half later, got another one and within within a day it's like feeling better, yeah. Can you? Sue? Yeah. I'm not sure, because he said, this is like, this really, like this is gonna make my mother look bad too,
Starting point is 00:35:36 but hey man, we keep it real here. Not anymore. Well, I'll try to keep it as real as I can. Please don't. No, we can't afford to. But Pam said to me that one time she was talking to the doctor because she went to the same doctor and I guess they were talking about the pills and the doctor was like, well, he'll probably get addicted, but then we'll just deal with that then.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Wow. Now, I was looking at my mother like, well, what the fuck? Why didn't you say something? But she's pan, so I'm not really surprised. I didn't hold it against her. But I might be able to get into some kind of class action suit. Against the pharmaceutical company or the doctor? Does she have him on – is that on your chart?
Starting point is 00:36:20 He wrote that down. He's probably going to get addicted to this, but we'll deal with that later. That I doubt. He would be really – he's probably gonna get addicted to this, but we'll deal with that later. That I doubt, that I don't, I mean, he would be really. Then, that's a smoking gun. And that was like. You don't need a Matlock to fucking win that, because he wrote that down.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Oh, speaking of which, I started watching. Did you? Yes, I'm into the first two episodes, I like the direction it's going in. You were right, you were right. Wow, I didn't think I could win you over. I will say this, it's an old person show. It feels like a CBS 1980s show.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It does, but it will, there will be times I will say this, it's an old person show. It feels like a CBS 1980s show. It does, but there will be times where it feels ageless and it's not an old person's show. Now those are the moments where you're like, oh, this is well done. There's something more here than meets the eye. Yeah. I mean, the problem is that the only real likable character so far is Kathy Bates. Otherwise- Her husband is super likeable He's dope. He's too doting though. Wait till you get to the episode where I'm only on episode two So there's a couple episodes in him. I'm on a fucking mat like
Starting point is 00:37:19 Show when it was deadwood there was all fine and dandy when I had the glazed overlook When it was Deadwood, it was all fine and dandy when I had the glazed overlook. But you didn't walk into this room and get told that everything you do is wrong. Every day! That's the thing! Every day! Oh, fuck, if you don't deserve every fucking... every criticism that is thrown at you. You're out of your fucking mind that you don't think you're above even the most baseless criticism has fucking merit.
Starting point is 00:37:49 All the instepers are going up. Oh, all the boner pills are back there. Nice. But there's a moment where, you know about the daughter, right? Yes. Okay. There's a moment where we see her for the first time and there's like flashback things and the husband with just facial expressions rips your heart out and you're
Starting point is 00:38:13 like, that dude deserves a fucking Emmy. Oh yeah? When you just fall in love with that guy. Cause he is such a nice. Sweet guy. I haven't gotten to that part yet, but I'll keep an eye out. It's a good show. I mean, I like the way they weave the old Matlock stuff into.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah. It's pretty cool. But there's a lot of- Why, it's a sequel to the first series? They acknowledged that the show existed in her world, but it was a TV show. And that's her, like her name is Maddie Matlock, so everyone's like, just like the old TV show.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Oh wow, is that a choice that pays off, or is this a fun thing they put in there? I think it's a show that, I think it's a choice that pays off, it would be ridiculous to be like she's a relative Of fucking she's the original Matlock's cousin. She's doing it would be just too outlandish Well, but or you could just not acknowledge the first series at all Yeah, yeah, but I think this is a clever way Okay, not a nice nod to the you know, they play the music sometimes of the original theme get out of here. Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:03 Oh, well, I never saw one episode of the original theme. Get out of here. Yeah. Well, that sounds interesting. I never saw one episode of the original Matlock though. Yeah, okay. I was, like that was in my fucking teen years, in the early 20s. Yeah. There was not a chance I was watching TV. A lot has changed since then. Now it's like, what's on TV?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Now it's appointment watching, yeah. Matlock's on. Oh, good. My shows are on. All my programs, all of them. There was like a good solid decade of elderly lawyer and detective shows. Diagnosis murder, Matt Lock. So that's all that's been going on? Nothing else? Nothing else. You don't think that to yourself like, I got to do at least something out of the norm
Starting point is 00:39:48 so that I can bring it back to the table. I do. Okay. I absolutely do. It never presents itself. Because I don't have anywhere to go. Maybe I'm just going to get up on the roof and see if my shingles are good. Throw myself.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That's more likely. Maybe like go somewhere and people watch. Yeah, Mary Beth's like, he's doing it. He's doing it. Go on people watch. I could do that. Yeah, I just don't get into enough like, I mean, we went to family lunch at the Texas Roadhouse on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Nothing happened. We ate lunch. You got to make something happen. Yeah, when I used to make something happen though, it wasn't bad like watching people shoot up and shoot. Maybe fake an episode or something like you got like, oh my God, call the doctor. I'm busy. No, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah, at the very end, I was just fucking around. I need content because it has to be, you got to understand it can't be too offensive, but it can be untrue. I think that's our new tagline. Tell him Steve, Dave, it can't be untrue. I got this one right here. It's great, I love it. Now I'm in. I got some one, yeah. Yeah, it's great, I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Now I'm in! I got my vision now. I love it. What are these, peanuts? I have a peanut allergy! Yeah! Very best known you're not. Shut up! Shut the fuck up! Pretend you're bloating, I need this! I'm choking, look at me!
Starting point is 00:41:24 Someone help me! Does anyone here know the Heimlich maneuver? Someone get me my EpiPen You don't have an EpiPen Brian Shut up! Why not? What are you? You fucking dope. I need fucking content Sir, this is the third time this week
Starting point is 00:41:41 You need an EpiPen in Chili's Just pretend this is an EpiPen. Yeah, I got to start, well, like after something like Q West, we'll have tons of shit to talk about. That's a month away though. Oh yeah, a lot of stories. Yeah. Oh yeah, you guys are going to bank the stories, right?
Starting point is 00:42:01 We'll bank. Okay. I, we, I say at a minimum. Yeah. Six between all, both'll bank. Okay. I say at a minimum, six between both of you. Okay. Six combined, three each, good stories to bring back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I can manage that. I mean that- Because then I'm in a situation where it's like, those good stories are possible. Stories happening in my house are few and far between. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, we're about a month away.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. Last I heard, it was basically zero tickets. Is one ticket left? and far between. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We're about a month away. Last I heard it was basically zero tickets. It's one ticket left. It's hard to sell one ticket, right? Yeah, yeah. That's all right. Hey there lonely heart. I'll just probably just pull it down and say it's sold out.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah, you can say it. It can be untrue now. You're absolutely correct. I like this new feelings over facts era. Yeah. Yeah, I can be untrue now. I like that. I like this new feelings over facts. Yeah. Yeah. Like this. We could have took advantage of it years ago. We missed the boat. Now we're jumping on people like it's too late.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Well, feeling over facts is wrong because it's not like we're dealing. I mean, the problem was we weren't dealing in facts. That's how we got into hot water. I think no, I think we were, we just, people just don't want to hear our viewpoints on the world's issues. Gotcha. There's this one, we just want to laugh and want to feel good. I agree with them. Yeah. Yeah, I come over with that I think now that my defensiveness is draining and I saw it and I knew it was gonna happen and I was like Oh, but now I am I am on the other side So now I'm starting to absorb what you were saying a little bit more and I understand the perspective
Starting point is 00:43:40 That you've brought to the table and I agree. I I think it's I think it's a good move for us. Yeah Yeah, I like it. I like it. I don't I don't I don't want a fucking adversarial relationship with with listeners What was that that was a note I was supposed to give him last week. Oh, okay. Jimmy the hair guy the hair guy Cue it's Jimmy the hair guy. I love you This isn't real. That's real. I love you. I do not want money. I only want to hang. See you soon. Your pal, Jimmy the hair guy. I see that. He told me he loves me. Oh, that's not getting him sand writing. Hmm. But hasn't he been listening? Got one seat left. He can come. He doesn't need a ticket. That's how all this started. I wanted him to come
Starting point is 00:44:26 down. Well, whatever. Jimmy, don't worry about it, buddy. It was a bit. Relax. It's okay. You don't have to come. I was just about to say something. And I love you too, Jimmy. Oh, Gene Hackman. Wow. Yeah. Did you read that search warrant?
Starting point is 00:44:41 No. Tell us what was on it. Just don't go, whew. We need facts. So as far as I know, it happened at least two weeks ago. Right, I read that. Yeah. They found like they were partially mummified.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I read that. Yeah. You get mummification in two weeks? Wait a minute. Just like partially. Partially. I thought mummification was something, a manmade thing that like they wrap you in gauze and shit. Yeah, it's still like to dry out the dishes. that like they wrap you in gauze and shit.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, it's still like to dry out the dishes. But who wrapped them up in gauze? They weren't wrapped up in gauze. Like their hands and I think the hands are just... They're just like shrunken apples kind of. Yeah. Okay, that's not called mummifying. That is not the proper term.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It's in the... Decomposing! No, that's, they said the faces were bloated and decomposing. I was saying that as a joke. I think he's serious. What's a... Because I started saying like, well, who wrapped them up in a mummy? Yeah, there's no way the faces were bloated. I was saying that as a joke. I think he's serious. What's that? I because I started saying like well You can get mummified I think I think mummification
Starting point is 00:45:31 They take the organs out. Right, but if they start to Liquify if the organ starts to liquify and all like the juices are probably leaking out then you then you start to dry up Yeah, and how many weeks at At least, or at most two. That's the last time that the- Modification starts at two weeks. Well, I'm just saying is that's the last time that anyone had spoken to them. That was the reporting parties, which were the landscapers.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Wow, so genius. Not a way for a legend to go out. But he's 90 something years old. He was 90 something. Here's the thing though, I read an article about him and he retired from acting a little over 20 years ago and the past couple of decades he spent in Santa Fe putting himself into the community, being on the arts board, he took up painting, he took up, he wrote novels with a local author, he worked with a gallery there, he's part of the arts scene and I'm
Starting point is 00:46:19 like, man, something's going to kill you at 95, you know what I mean? Something's going to kill you but what a fucking great end to his life, man, something's going to kill you at 95. You know what I mean? Like something's going to kill you. But what a fucking great end to his life, man. Like to find the place you love and to be able to become part of it and just be creative with your last few decades. It just sounded kind of beautiful for me. Like you said, like not the very last moment. Yeah. But if somebody said like, look, here's the downside of it. You get to spend your last two decades like in that sort of environment. But here's the problem. Some podcasts are a little bit debating
Starting point is 00:46:45 if you're a mummy or not. No, you're going to fucking, something bad's going to happen at the very end when you're 95 and you're going to end up dead on your floor for two weeks. I'd still be like, that's good, I'll take it. Yeah. I would too. I would too.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Like yeah, that's the, I know I got 95 pretty good ones under my belt. And they're just two decades of just loving life. I mean those two weeks that he has spent on floor, he didn't know. He didn't know. I don't know. I don't know. It seemed like it was carbon monoxide because him, his wife and the dog. I heard it's not carbon monoxide.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Not carbon monoxide. Well, I heard that the theory that he died and then she committed suicide and killed the dog too, right? Really? And so there's a theory. Well, they're saying that I did it too. Yeah, fuck that. That is fucking, I just heard it. I read it. and she committed suicide and killed the dog too, right? Really? So there's a theory. Well, they're saying- Oh, you know, I should, yeah, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 That is fucking, I just heard it, I read it, it doesn't mean it's true. Well, you're acknowledging it's a theory. Yeah. It's not even a theory, it's just an online fucking gossip. Yeah, they found the dog- Gross, disgusting, I don't wanna hear it. Since they found the dog in the closet,
Starting point is 00:47:38 they suspect it may have gotten into the pills and then went into the closet and passed. Oh, man. But there were two other dogs that were still alive, one outside, one inside. One that that house is going to sell for. I got a good dog story. Better than this one.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Oh, you're looking to end the show? No, no, no. How much time we got going on? 12, 48. 48 minutes. Yeah, actually I wanted to ask you about going to plays because you go to quite a few plays. I've been to a couple plays in my time, not as many as Q though, I don't think. Well Q goes for freaks, so I can't ask him.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I don't go to plays for Freak. They don't give free tickets on Broadway. They don't? Every single show I've gone to, I've paid. You paid for it, huh? Yeah, yeah. Because I really want to go see. I'm going to see Fatone in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Oh, are you going to see him? Yeah, I may want to see him. I'm going to see Stranger Things in a few weeks. That's a play? Oh, wow. That's a play. That came over from London, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Whoa. Huh. It looks so good. Where's it going? My missus and my daughter Alicia. Oh, okay. All right. Not, not rub.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Rub? Yeah. Why would you think rub? He only goes to concerts. He doesn't go to plays. Oh, I don't know. I didn't know if you were. Oh, yeah, I go places with rub.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if you were one of us. But usually not the theater though. Okay, got it. Well, go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead. What was your question? My question is, why are tickets so fucking expensive? I wanted to get tickets to go see
Starting point is 00:48:45 Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. They were like for like mid orchestra. They were like $275 a person. Is that average? I haven't been to a show in 20 years. What do you think the elite should pull down? Elite in one of those? Yeah. What do you think you should get? I mean more than the minimum I think because these guys are, they're big names. Okay. So that's what it is
Starting point is 00:49:05 I Don't know cuz well all these guys are big though. Okay, everybody in the cast. What do you think the Musicians and not doing it for money though. I mean, no, these are all guys who have money already I think they're doing it because they love it, but the the musicians in the pit the the stage hands the the musicians in the pit, the stage hands, the popcorn session. That's what theater rentals what you're paying for. Yeah. I mean, it's an expensive... But how much? Two inch change? Two seventy-five.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That sounds perfectly average. It's not that much? Yeah, it's not. That's right down the middle. Okay. Yeah, especially for an orchestra sheet. Like some of the... You could sit in the top for those seats. Yeah, like 110 if you sit on top.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah, yeah. But splurge, baby. Yeah? While you still always... You need to get the fuck out of the house. Yeah. That's why I was just thinking. There's a story maybe in this. It could be a story, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I mean, we're going up to New York, maybe I'll get mugged. Somebody will set me on fire or something. Even if you don't, just say you did. Yeah, that's your ass. I'll have Mary Beth swear by it. That's a good fucking idea. Just say you were followed down an alley by some tough looking thugs. That happened.
Starting point is 00:49:57 That happened. Exactly. Just say you were followed down an alley by some tough looking thugs. That happened. That happened. Exactly. Oh, I like it. I like this. So going forward, like in a good way, people don't know if the stories we're telling are true or not. In a good way.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I mean, I think they'll be able to tell though. I think I can decipher sure but listeners should expect Should expect that keep them on your toes. Some of the stories going forward are going to be completely made up Twisted me saying that we're just not gonna talk about world politics We're gonna be lying about everything people to now feel like we're going to be lying about everything, people. Get ready. Hold on to your hats. If we could start making up stories, I think that's cool. I like that. I think embellishing. Like you caught a fish and it became a giant.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I always felt that way, though. I never let the truth get in the way of a good story. I didn't know if we were just going through the looking glass into complete fabrication. Like now we're saving people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, also there's been some speculation recently that JFK might've been gay with his buddy. JFK? JFK and his friend Lem Billings.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Here's a picture of them together. Now this is not really the kind, like Q, you and I have been friends for a long time Walt's been friends with you for a long time. We've never taken a picture. Yeah, they're fucking around. Look at the looks on their faces Dude, I went down the rabbit hole on this. There's probably 500 pictures that look like this with them Just just bro. I'm racing and bro and down. Yeah. I mean look man the guy fuck Malamun row You know, what are we gonna do? Do you think he's just like I'm bored of women Cuz it seems like it was like when he was younger
Starting point is 00:51:50 It wouldn't really change my opinion of him even if they were like he always seemed like a fucking poon hound He did so maybe the poons on men. That's all Says although Joe Kennedy the family patriarch was reportedly suspicious of Billings close relationship with his son, the Kennedy family welcomed Billings into their exclusive family circle. And Billings said, John made a big difference in my life. Uh, he may have been the reason I never got married. And one historian wrote after the 63 assassination that Billings was probably the saddest of the Kennedy widows.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Well, I mean, would he be technically a widow? Not technically a widow. saddest of the Kennedy widows No, but it did make me then look up other gay presidents Well, who is the one that dressed up in women's clothing? Jay or Hoover Hoover those Hoover. Yeah supposedly but these are presidents that were allegedly gay I didn't know there were any gay president me neither neither until I heard about this JFK stuff and then I looked it up. This is good. James Buchanan has faced speculation. Give me me, huh? He lived with his future vice president for more than a decade. They were rarely seen apart. Many commentators at the time remarked on the parish closeness with Andrew Jackson referring to them as Miss Nancy and Aunt Fancy Do you think you? How far away are we Q from
Starting point is 00:53:16 An openly gay president make getting elected. Do you think it's like do you think it's 2025? I don't know politics talk to me. Well, if you just say, well, I hope it's this year or in the next four years, then we're covered. Yeah, that's what I hope. Yeah, okay. Go ahead, Brian. Oh, really? Cause I was hoping to be a lesbian.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You guys in your gay patriarchy. You're right. Why would I think of that? Why would I assume a man? Yeah, I don't know. We got work to do, boys. We got work to do. If anything we've learned. Why would you assume a woman? You're just as bad as us. I know, I don't know. We got work to do. If anything, we've learned. Why would
Starting point is 00:53:46 you assume a woman? You're just as bad as us. I know. I'm sorry. You're right. You're heading into the waters. Where were you on that one? Fucking. Shaking my head. Yeah, you're not supposed to be doing that. You're supposed to be the special, tell him Steve Dave finger wagger. And these two were going off in questionable waters. Now I didn't see any of your fingers raised. I apologize. All right. He can't raise his fingers anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Not without fucking almost blacking out. All the blood rushes to him. There he is. All packed everyone. Barack Obama. Oh yeah. I remember that lawsuit. Conspiracy theorists claim that Obama used basketball pickup games to pick up men and had homosexual trysts with representative Artur
Starting point is 00:54:38 Davis, uh, messages governor Deval Patrick and Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, Alex Jones of Infowars, not surprisingly, took the joke to heart. It's a popular conspiracy theory amongst homophobes is what they say here. Lyndon B. Johnson. Wow. 37th President. Snooze. Snooze. Yeah. Is that because he would apparently bring people into him with the bathroom to show
Starting point is 00:55:06 off his penis because it was so large? That's not what it's saying here. The president just sucked 37 dicks in a row. I'm supposed to be here tonight. That's my Dante voice. How about Dante on this game show? What's going on? He's on this show called? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:55:25 He's on this show called The Floor. Yeah. Rob Lowe game? Yeah. He's on it? He's a... Not only was he on it, he won 20 grand. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm not sure if he's still on it. Oh yeah, he's a contestant. Yeah, he's a contestant. Hey, good for him, man. As I say, congratulations, Dante. By the time that gets into his pocket, that's a cool $8,000. Nice. Tax talk.
Starting point is 00:55:42 You can kick it. Right? I should not have to learn to love. If I have to learn to love taxes, this is fucking going too far. Eight thousand dollars. Yeah, nice. Tax talk. You can pick it. Right? I should not have to learn to love. If I have to learn to love taxes, this is fucking going too far. Lyndon B. Johnson, they're saying that he was such a like anti-gay guy that they're like, you're probably gay. Like he was so like into the persecution of gay people.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Alexander Hamilton, who never got to be the president, but he did have a scandalous personal life. Yeah, but that was because he was banging a woman. As well as his affair with a woman, doubt has also been cast over his relationships with men. During the American Revolution, his letters to close friends grew more affectionate and flowery with many describing Hamilton as feminine. In one letter, Hamilton described himself as a jealous lover over his friend's failure to reply. He says, like a jealous lover, when I thought you slided my caresses, my affection was alarmed and my vanity peaked.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Oh yeah. Yup. Boner time. Abraham Lincoln. No, honest Abe. Yeah. They were, I'm just going to assume all presidents have. In early adulthood, he shared a bed with Joshua Speed, who later became a congressman.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Wait, what did you say? I said, I'm just going to assume all presidents are half gay. That's a pretty good assumption to make. Yeah. And then Bill and Hillary Clinton, of course. But Bill's such a poon hand. I don't see him as a. But not George Washington though, huh? Not George Washington, nope. These are the seven presidents that, well, six presidents and Alexander Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I thought with that wig and shit and all the rouge, I always say, since I was a little kid, I was like, I remember asking my mom if George Washington was a woman. Oh yeah? Yeah. Would make sense. Would make sense with the makeup.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I was just a little kid then when I said that. Yeah. He looked like an old auntie. Yeah. He looked like Martha Washington basically. But he was a bad ass though. I didn't know it, but he was. George. Yeah, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:57:31 He's a general in the army. Mm hmm. Yeah, save this country from the Brits. Hey, UK talk, come on now. Come on now. I know it was all 200 years ago, but it's still cute. It's still raw. We can't back down.
Starting point is 00:57:50 He insisted on inoculating his army against smallpox. Oh, uh, also Michelle Trachtenberg died, which I was shocked at. She's only 39 years old. Do we know what happened to her? Uh, no, well, she had a liver transplant like a couple of weeks ago, and I think they knew that death was a possibility after the. Is that a common liver transplant? Cause I know kidney transplants are and everything, but liver?
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. I think livers aren't for like drunks, right? A lot of times alcoholics. Well, not necessarily. I had a, I have a cousin who, uh who successfully she passed. Okay, so it's hard to. In India, it's all the drugs you got to take for the anti-rejection and stop it. You can never stop taking those, right?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. That's just me speculating actually because they the family didn't want an autopsy. I guess they're Jewish. So they're like no autopsy. We just want a barrier immediately. So we won't know if it was liver drugs or whatever. I like that little caveat there. You caught yourself that is, that's good. That's good
Starting point is 00:58:52 podcasting. What did I catch? When you said all, that was just you speculating, you said. Oh, okay. Yeah. That is good. Good solid podcasting. I can learn. Yeah. I can learn.
Starting point is 00:59:02 You guys want to hear the dog stories? Yeah. Hell yeah. Poor Q. Just shaking his head looking downcast. You save them until next week? No, no. Let's just do it. You guys don't ever think about ending this podcast? Never. How are we going to end it again?
Starting point is 00:59:23 I mean, we could just end it. You could drive over, you drive back to Staten Island. You got a TV show to do. Yeah. But how much longer is that going to go? This will be your only source of income. You better dig in. You ought to dig your heels in, boy.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Or test in a restaurant. So, do you remember a few years ago, I rescued my neighbor's dog that got out? Yes. Okay. So, that had to have been almost 15 years. It was at the very beginning stages of Tome, Steve, Dave. Well, that neighbor moved with that dog and a new neighbor moved in with a dog. And the other day, my daughter Alicia was going out too early in the morning to Dunkin Donuts and she saw the neighbor's dog in the middle
Starting point is 01:00:18 of the street and she rescued the dog and brought it back to that same neighbor's house. Oh yeah. Fulfilling her almost like... Destiny. And she rescued the dog and brought it back to that same neighbor's house. Fulfilling her almost like, like. Destiny. It's about me. I saved the neighbor's dog. Now she saved the neighbor's dog. I thought that was like some weird Kismet shit going on. You know, I thought like, you know. Out of the same house is interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Same house. You know, same situation. Dog gets out, needs to be rescued and brought back to the house by a Flanagan. Flanagans, man. Yeah. Not the rescuing canines. Yeah, that's pretty good. Okay. That was the feel good story. Now I got a light hearted one to take us out on it. See, that's where you should have embellished though, because Alicia's like, hey, there's a dog.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Let me bring him back to his house. Should have been like, the car's buzzing back and forth. Yeah, she was on a major highway four lanes. Yeah. Yeah. People have up and down your block pretty quick. They do. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's insane. Especially at like 6 AM. Yeah. Everybody's late for work. So they're like, fuck it. Yeah. But my feel good story is, so I have Teddy now, my French bulldog, my long-haired French bulldog, and he likes to go everywhere with me and or needs to have somebody at the house to
Starting point is 01:01:33 watch him. Nobody was home this particular evening and I went over to the pizza parlor that I always go to, the pizza parlor that I save from a mini volcano, a little midget volcano. I don't know if I can say midget now in this new, tell them Steve, Dave, Aaron. Can't say volcano either. It's very dicey. Although I did see an official announcement to tell people to keep mulch away from their
Starting point is 01:01:55 houses because it's been starting fires. Yeah. It's like officially announced. TSD makes, the world takes. Um, but, uh, so the same pizza parlor that I have gone in there and there and saved the plaza that they have a store in, I bring Teddy with me and when I get out of the car, we pull up and I get the spot right in front.
Starting point is 01:02:15 He jumps into the driver's seat and just puts his paws on the window and he watches me go in. I'm just going to go pick up my order and come back out. But we're so close to the window. You know, I could see him from. Sure. Inside the store. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And that's when the car starts fucking going and he starts fucking driving. Holy shit. I totally bought it too. I wanted to support it no matter what. I was like, what kind of car is he driving? He's picking into gear. So I'm watching him from, I sell what I'm picking up and I hear this voice and I am treated in there kind of like I'm invisible.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Really they're not very personable in this pizza parlor, which is fine. I don't need to be glad handed. Is it the one in Walgreens Plaza? No, it's the one in the Food Town Plaza. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So they're not very overly friendly, but that's fine. I'm not there to, you know, I rather eat the pizza, but they're not really that friendly. And out of nowhere, I just hear someone say, how old's your dog? And these guys never talk to me,
Starting point is 01:03:25 so I don't assume they're even talking to me. And I was like, uh, I realized when he's talking to me, I was like, oh, he's about four now? And he goes, he's a long-haired Frenchie. I was like, yeah, yes he is. And he was just like, what color is he? And I was like, he's like white. And before I can even finish that he, gray, he He goes he's a blue long-haired Frenchie
Starting point is 01:03:48 And I was like, yeah He starts dancing This is real Dancing and go and gyrating and he's going to his wife. He likes the wife works here, too Baby, babe, they got a long-haired Frenchie How and he's like, holy shit, bro. He's like, yeah. He's like, me and you, we're going to be fucking rich.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I raise, I breed French Bulldogs. I have never come across a long-haired Frenchie. He goes, he's like, you are going to be, you're sitting on a gold mine, son. And I'm like, I can going to be – you're sitting on a gold mine, son. Well … And I'm like – I can't even get the words out. And before I finally go, well – I go, we're not really sitting on any money. I said, I got them fixed. And the dancing stops immediately.
Starting point is 01:04:37 He just looks at me like, what? Why? Why the fuck would you do that? And I was like, well, you know, the situation – I started to tell him the history of the dog. I was like … Not a breeder. Yeah, I go, you know, and I took the responsibility that I wanted to take the dog in and raise
Starting point is 01:04:54 him and give him a good life, you know, because of the situation. He's sad. His owner passed away. I.E. the right reasons. And I go, I would just feel terrible if I was like, you know, if all of a sudden I just started, you know, the guy that trusted me enough to take him in was like, hey, he finds out I'm making money on the dog now, it would be for all the awful reasons. I would feel like a heel.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I can't even get it, like, I want to say all this, but I can't even get it. He's like, what the fuck? What the fuck? He's going, he's fucking really upset. And he's just like, I can't believe this shit. I can't believe this. I can't believe it. He puts his hands in his head and just like fucking, like he's going to get sick.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Oh my God. He's like, he's just shaking his head. Why? Why would somebody do that? Why? Why? Why would somebody do that? And I'm like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I apologize. Now I'm like defending my actions to this guy. It just wasn't something we thought we would explore. How presumptuous though that he's like, all right, we got a mate. Without even asking you, like forget that Teddy's been fixed and everything. What if you're like, look, I'm not into breeding. That's one thing that people shouldn't be doing is like breeding their own dogs, you know, yeah You know that that's good point. I but I was just so taken aback that they were even speaking to me I was just like wow, I can't believe it and now and after that, you know What they were talking about after I left that pizza parlor one asshole. Oh my god
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yeah, they probably biggest idiot customer they have my ears must have been burning all that shit about saving the plaza You know, nope. Nope, they don't talk about that. All that shit about saving the plaza, you know, nope, nope. They don't talk about that. They just, I'm the guy now that fucking fixed the $10,000 dog. Honey, make sure to spit his food next time. Yeah, you almost can't go back there. I didn't even consider that. You really think that's a possible?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh no, no. It's like they would be that. It's a possibility. Yeah, anything is possible. Probability, no. The guy was going to be rich. He was rich in that moment and then he's like, oh, fuck, he just ruined it. You're the guy that killed his dream.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Even he has to realize it wasn't a personal thing that I did against him. You should have just said, you should have been like, he was fixed when I got him. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I should have just said, you should have been like, he was fixed when I got him. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I should have that. But going forward, if this happens again, I will be like, yeah, fucking stupid, fucking asshole. Yeah, I could have been rich. I have before he was a fucking idiot. But can't he just get another one and use it as a breeding? These are extremely hard, long ha These are, these are extremely hard.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Um, long haired fringes are extremely hard to come by. They do retail for $10,000. So the previous owner, her son brought the dog for her and he, they were pretty well off, they will afford a $10,000 dog. And, uh, my vet even says when I came in the other day, she was like, I, I just can't get over this dog. She goes, this is like the unicorn of dogs, she said. She goes, I heard they exist and I've never seen one in real life. He is a cool looking dog.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I do like that dog. He is wild looking, but yeah, it's... Yeah, but if all you have to do is buy one for $10,000 and made it and have like a litter of puppies, aren't you going to make your money back immediately? I guess, but I don't know. I mean, where are you going to find someone that – who would have thought that the guy who delivers pizza also fucking breeds French bulldogs? French bulldogs. It's a crazy one, but I don't think he was at right to curse at you in his place
Starting point is 01:08:17 of business. You were a customer, you were there to do what you were doing, like what he opened his business for. But I just think his disappointment was on a fucking massive, like ripped right out from underneath him, like the red carpet in all his dreams. Because what the fuck is really saying, how could you be so stupid? Yeah. Yeah. He's not even hiding it.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He's basically like one word away. The guy has never spoken to me before that and after that incident, he has not spoken to me once. Even I helped door him for one day and he didn't even say thank you. Just bring out some prize. Never will now. Salts the ground you walk on. When I lived in that area, I had a couple run ins with their delivery drivers. I stopped using them.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. Yeah. It was just too much. I like their pizza too much. They can, they can call me stupid after I leave this restaurant. It's okay. I'm fine with it. It's okay. I'm fine with it. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I get it. You know, you had your hopes and dreams shattered by me trying to be a good person. And like where are these hopes and dreams prior? I guess, like he was like imagining if he could just go. He said that he, he's just like, he never dreamed that he would just walk up on one. He goes, they're that rare, he said.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And to have one just fall into his lap, he said, it was like, he was dancing over it. He literally was dancing. Like his feet weren't even touching the ground. He was that happy. It was a lottery ticket that one of those fake lottery tickets, the. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And he flip it over and it's like sucker. Yeah. Oh my God. That's what, that's it. What a good run we've had had, guys. Come on, that's a story I would tell. I'm looking forward to the start of a new podcast next week. I'm looking forward to it. All right. Well, I mean, are we going to renumber it? There's a lot of work that has to be done, right?
Starting point is 01:10:01 Who's going to get on that? Yeah, we'll have to talk about it during the next week. Maybe just keep it legacy numbered and then just put it in the title, the new number. That's a good idea too. Yeah. Astric. Astric. Yeah, something like that. It'd be great.
Starting point is 01:10:15 We got to spread it around that now you can get it on the ground floor. Yeah. We'll make 15-year-old references no one will get. Oh, I'm going to stop doing that. We got to stop doing that too? Yep. Oh, boy. That's the wheelhouse of an old guy like us that was making ancient references. references no one will get. We gotta stop doing that. We gotta stop doing that too? Yep. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:10:26 That's the wheelhouse of an old guy like us that was making ancient references. We gotta get out of our comfort zone. As a lot of people on Reddit said, we're just too comfortable. Oh, sorry. Tell them. Tell them Steve-Dave. Tell them Steve-Dave before you get going again. Before you get all riled up.
Starting point is 01:10:42 God forbid I should be comfortable.

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