Tell Em Steve-Dave - #645: Supa’ man

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

Ventriloquists, Tim’s wake, a CEO gets busted, Oasis vs Coldplay. http://www.ridge.com/tesd

He has balls that, that he controls. Yeah, here's my terrorist puppet. You don't like it? Don't buy a ticket and go suck a dick. I guess you just got to talk through your teeth, right? You just kind of go like this and you... Yeah, just talk like this. Huh. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell'em Steve Dave.

I'm here with, well, kind of here with BQ. Hello. His summer traffic has kept him at bay, so he's zooming in. Yeah, I got on the road and yeah, it was like an hour and 20 minutes to get what normally takes me a half hour to do, so it was like, yeah, I'll zoom today. Yeah. I forget. That's every weekend.

Yep, that's every weekend around here. In the summer, it's zoom today. Yeah. I forget. That's every weekend. Yep. That's every weekend around here. In the summer, it's every weekend. Yeah. Because everybody's going to the Jersey Shore for the weekend and everybody's going back on Sunday. It's just a nightmare. Well, I see why Walt is here, of course, too.

You were drinking. I didn't want to interrupt you, Walt. I thought you were going to do a ventriloquist, actually, drinking water and still talk. No. I tried to do that. I tried to learn ventriloquism as a kid. still talk. No, I tried to do that. I tried to learn ventriloquism as a kid. Didn't go well. Didn't go well.

No. I have a hard time not moving my lips, which is probably the key factor. That's the main requirement of a ventriloquist, I guess. Yeah. I always was impressed with guys who could throw their voice, like behind a couch or something. Like if they were in the kitchen and they could throw their voice behind, you know, and seemingly on the other end of the room.

I've never seen it work. I've never, I think I've only seen that work in movies. In real life, like, I feel like anytime you're watching a ventriloquist or someone like that, you have to kind of be nice to them and pretend you don't see their fucking lips moving. You know what I mean? Like I don't think I've ever seen a ventriloquist that I was like, wow, that guy has nailed it. You always see that careful queue ventriloquist lobby. After us, if you go a little too hard on it, I know there's a lot of listeners who are card carrying members of the Ventriloquist Union. Society.

I think it's a positive, bud. I think like I just haven't seen the right Ventriloquist yet. I would be excited by that. Who are the most famous ones? You got Charlie McCarthy, of course. Yeah. Well, the most famous one has been dead for a hundred years. Now, can you hear me?

Because I have a little bit of a headache. Who are the most famous ones? You got Charlie McCarthy, of course. Yeah. Well, the most famous one has been dead for a hundred years. Now, can you hear me? Because I sound so weird. I can hear you. Okay. Let me hear you. You sound normal to me. Okay. Yeah. Well, who's the guy that's got all the puppets? He's pretty popular.

Oh, the guy that Jeff Dunham, Jeff Dunham. Yeah. Sunday Jeff, that's maybe his favorite celebrity. Really? Yeah, he's paid thousands to see him live in his lifetime. I get it. I mean, that guy's really funny. The puppets are cool and shit like that. I get it. Yeah, that's one of the few people that he will pony up his hard-earned cash for. Wow.

I'm looking at the list of famous ventriloquists. It's not a lot of names I recognize. You got Sherry Lewis, of course, and you got Wayland Flowers, madam. Beyond that. Sherry who? Sherry Lewis. She was with the sock puppet, right? Sherry who? Sherry Lewis. She was with the sock puppet, right?

The lamb chop. Yeah, lamb chop. These are all ancient underground celebrities. Yeah, like most of their pictures are in black and white. And when I say underground, I mean literally six feet under. I don't mean underground like they're, you know, they're fringe celebrities. These are people that have not made an impact in decades. I mean, Jeff Dunham is pretty popular though.

He's kind of got the market to himself. So I guess you just gotta talk through your teeth, right? You just gotta go like this and you think. Yeah, just talk like this. Say, Huh. Hey, guys, how you doing? Ah! Tell them, you can't say tell them Steve, Dave, without touching two lips together.

Tell them Steve, Dave. Tell them Steve, Dave. Tell them Steve. Sounds exactly like what you would normally... Tell them Steve, Dave. I'm also looking at the ages, like you say, Walt, of these people. Not many of these ventriloquists have gotten started at the ages, like you say, Walt, of these people. Not many of these ventriloquists have gotten started in the past.

Well, in this century, as a matter of fact, you have Darcy Lynn. She's an American ventriloquist and singer has been credited with the revival of ventriloquism. Whoa. Born in Oklahoma, she developed an interest in singing from a young age, but was held back by her shyness before audiences. But now you got Darcy Lane, who's only, what, 21? 21-year-old ventriloquism prodigy they're calling her. Whoa, alright.

Well, you know what? I'm happy to be wrong. I can't wait to check out her work. What's. Do you think in 2025 there's just too many things vying too many talents out there that overshadow, you know, being able to close your lips and talk. Kinda. Yeah. But I don't think it's a problem that just ventriloquism is ventriloquism is facing. I think every corner of entertainmentriloquism is facing. I think every corner of entertainment, good and bad, is facing that. Everything's so shattered and segmented.

I think everywhere is pretty much fighting for relevancy at this point. Yeah. I still think sports, though. They don't suffer the way that, you know, the way the ventriloquism market has dried up. I don't think they're... Sure. I don't think they're feeling the pinch. Yeah.

I see some of these contracts that athletes get and the poor ventriloquist can't even buy a fucking butter sandwich. Yeah, that is a good point. You are right about that. The poor ventriloquist can't even buy a fucking butter sandwich. That is a good point. You are right about that. But all that means is, and maybe this young lady that Brian is talking about is the person, is like anything could be made cool and successful. Maybe they just need someone to rise and show the world just how great modern cutting edge ventriloquism could be.

Is there any hope for that? No. Is it realistic? And also a key factor too is you have to be able to do it well and also have good material too. So it's not just like you can rely on your skills with your mouth. You have to be able then to write witty things that your puppet can say. And comedy is tough in this day and age. So you gotta be real careful what your puppet says. You can't fall back on, well, I didn't say it, he did. The puppet said it, yeah.

Those days are gone. Yeah. The puppet said it. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. So you're kind of proving what I'm saying in that it takes way more talent to be a ventriloquist than I think people realize. And if you get someone who masters all of those at once and has a modern sensibility, I bet you that person's selling out Madison Square Garden. Well, yeah, that person's a superstar. Yeah, I believe so. We're just waiting on the next one. We're just waiting for him to come much like Jesus. The next great ventriloquist.

But like what I'm saying is like the fact that we've dismissed it means that there's someone out there with vision that we can't see who will lift it up. And that's when we'll get surprised. That's when we'll get fucking slobberknockered by ventriloquism. When the art form is redefined in a new way in a way that You know ever since Hidden camera got reinvented and reinvigorated

You know you need you need that you need someone to come in and change the format and make it something new You know some pluck a young up starts. Well, I think The young upcoming ventriloquist the kids who will grow up and get into ventriloquism will just be like, wait a second. I don't have to learn anything. I can just program into AI and it'll look like my puppet talks. Yeah, fuck that. I'm not going to put all these hours into trying to keep my beliefs. 10,000 hours. I'll just use AI. Croc. Make my puppet talk and just film yourself. Now, I always thought that Jeff Dunham was just the Akhmed the terrorist guy.

He has a whole array of puppets. Oh, no. He's more than just an incredibly offensive puppet. He's got a whole litany of puppet characters that he trots out. Yeah, I'm assuming he retired Aukhmed sometime ago. I don't think he did. No, Jeff told me he still brings him out. You know, the crowd goes fucking crazy.

You know, they're the Union Jack, not the Union Jack, what's the flag, the Southern flag? Oh, the rebel flag. Sorry, the whole crowd starts breaking out their flags and we have an Aukman who takes the stage. Well, that's the magic of Jeff Dunham. If you don't have a boss, if you don't need advertisers, if you're selling directly to an audience, you don't have a gift to fuck about what anybody says. Yeah, here's my terrorist puppy.

You don't like it? Don't buy a ticket and go suck a dick. That's the magic of being an independent. Yeah. I don't know. I still think that he may run into some trouble with theaters if he starts telling everybody to suck his dick. I don't think so, man.

I think Jeff Dunham is as free as Joe Rogan. They can say and do whatever the fuck they want and anything you have to say that you don't like about it, go suck a dick. Now that doesn't mean that I, you know, I don't listen, I've never heard an episode of Joe Rogan, but like he is the freest man in America. So Jeff Dunham probably has that freedom through the magic of ventriloquism. Yeah. Okay. All right.

You sold, I mean, you did a complete fucking 360 on this. You know that, right? I sure did. He's got indie cred because he has no bosses. I don't know. That goes forward with me, indie cred. He's like the Kevin Smith of ventriloquism. You understand what I'm saying? I do. Now that you put it in those terms Absolutely, you put it in terms. I can understand What do we do this we well we went to Tim's wake Very well Mia Walt did yeah. Yeah, I I was flying in Monday I was gonna land at the airport go straight to the wake and

I sat on the tarmac for two hours and then they canceled my flight. So I didn't get home till Tuesday. So I did miss it. I purposely didn't ask you guys during the week how was because one of course I know, but I figured we'd catch up on the show like show like how what was it was he outpouring there for Tim did Tim get? the love that we We know he deserves that and more I thought It was very well attended Great It was nice. Nice. I guess you know as far as services go I

mean we say for the actual religious service, but you know, there were a lot of people hanging around and a lot of you could tell Tim, you could tell like who are Tim's like friends from his rock days. Oh yeah. And that, yeah, like everybody's like old rockers with tattoos and stuff and that's cool. 80s haircuts, that kind of thing. Yeah. What's an 80s haircuts, that kind of thing. Yeah. What's an 80s haircut?

There was one lady there where she looked like she was from maybe one of the go-gos. It was very spiky up top and then spiky on the sides. There was one lady that had a haircut like that and a lot of long hair, I would say. Yeah. But this nude was beloved, There's no doubt about it. Yeah.

Yeah. I was really, really depressed to miss it, man. I wanted to be there. But I'm glad to hear that, dude. I was thinking about him a lot over the weekend, man. It's still kind of rattling around up there a lot. A little bit, yeah. Tessie Town came out, though, in force. I mean, everybody was there. Oh yeah, everybody was there. Everybody was there. Tom, Chuck, Victor, Alex, Gidham, Sunday, Frank Five drove down, Brian Nichelle.

LaDondo was there. LaDondo came. Oh, great. Yeah, so there were, I mean, I hope I'm not missing anybody. Rup. Rup. Alex was there. He said Alex.

Yeah, I just don't want to miss anybody. I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure.

I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. mean, I hope I'm not missing anybody. Rup, Rub. Alex was there. I said Alex. Yeah, I just don't want to miss anybody. I know that. So, but I was there. Yeah, I know. If I did, it's because I'm Jimmy the hair guy. Oh my God. And Michelle, Michelle, the one guy. And the one guy who would be fucking press calling. Did Jimmy throw himself on the coffin? How did Jimmy do? The one guy who would be fucking press-fallen. You know the whole before.

Did Jimmy throw himself on the coffin? How did Jimmy do? He did fine. Yeah, he did all right. He was a little upset, but yeah, I think he pulled through. And it's weird too, like I was telling Walt, like I know, I've known Tim a long time and mostly our experiences, you know, talking to each other, it's like about Tom, Steve, Dave shit or music or whatever when he's at Drop by Jax.

But I had no idea what like how integrated into the rock community he was. Like there were like on Facebook, there were like online magazines writing about him, you know, like rock and roll legend, they were calling him a founding member of monster magnet. Like he really got some accolades. Oh, good, man. It was nice to see. I'm just watching him try to silently eat a pop tart. He eats his grief.

Yeah. Uh, well, yeah, I want to see if you wouldn't, if you see the article, send He eats his grief. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I want to see if you see the article, send them to me, man. I'd love to read about them. Okay. Yeah. Will do.

There was a... You've ever seen a montage of photos on a big screen in the room. Like you ever see that where like at a- Yeah, sure. At a viewing like that where like different photos will just fade in and out onto the screen. Yeah. I don't know where they got it, but there was a photo of me and Tim in our kiss regalia. Yeah, I saw that. And I had to think 99% of that room is just like, what the fuck is that? Because there's a green screen behind them too, so it looks weird.

Yeah, we looked so alien. We didn't look like ourselves because the masks really do an amazing job of making us look like different people. It just blew my mind that I didn't even know where they got that photo from. Yeah, they had quite a few of the podcast photos. Yeah, they did. But I had to think when that photo is up there, people have to be like, what was Tim... What was he up to?

What was Tim... Is that eyes wide shut? What the fuck is going on? Tim was kinky, man. Oh, man. Yeah. But then, and I guess like it was, I don't know, it made me think too like my time to go. I like the presentation of just like a box. Like you didn't have to look at them and be like, oh poor Tim. Yeah. You know, like he created them and put a nice little box out. Receptacle.

Yeah, I think that's the way to go. I agree. It's weird. It's always been weird looking at those bodies, isn't it? It's just like, what's going on here? Well, Walt had a good point too. We were talking while we were there about like the chit chat. Like it's nonstop, people just joking around, talking shit. It's a weird custom to get together,

I guess, and not be mournful. But I guess if that's all you had the entire time, could you even get through it? Yeah. What? Not joking and busting balls? Who the fuck wants to go to a wake like that? Yeah. Uh, what? Not joking and busting balls. Like who the fuck wants to go to a wake like that? You know? Yeah. No, I meant more so it's just, I know why human beings do it. You know, it's, it's a mechanism to cope, but the inane chit chat about shit that like is so insignificant for the reason that you're there.

Just like, it's just weird. It's like, boy, is this heat ever going to break? Who cares? Who the fuck cares if it's hot for the next hundred days or not? It's just like, it's weird. But I know why people are doing it, but it is a very strange custom that human beings have put together about, you know, having a large group of people come together for an hour at a building to shake the hands of the – and say something to the grieving family. It's just a very strange tradition or ritual. There's a line at the door to go around the giant circle to tell his wife how sorry they are for a second. Some people she knows, some people she doesn't know.

It sounds like it could be a lot for the widow for sure. She seemed like she was handling it well though. As far as I could see. Yeah. You got four hours of glad handing. Then you can break down later on your own time. Most funerals I've been at have been kind of fun once you get past that first part where you go in and you kneel at the thing, you say your prayer and then you go in the back of the room and you just start fucking joking around. You know what I mean?

I don't know. We've always said from early on, Brian, at your funeral, you want your friends fucking ripping on you. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. It just wouldn't feel right if it wasn't present at the end. He wouldn't want it this way. Yeah.

If it was all serious and shit. Yeah. Reality though, how far would you really want it to go though? Well, I mean, let's say I'm in a coffin, don't draw a dick on my face or anything, you know, just for my family's sake. But you're saying don't do that, do not do that. Okay. I was saying I'd hate that.

What if it's not permanent ink though and it just wipes off like dry erasing? Dry erasing? And wipe it off real fast. I wouldn't be bad. I think it would be funny. Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah.

What if I slipped like a Playgirl magazine in your coffin? It was his favorite issue, I don't know what to tell you. He demanded it for the afterlife. That's the sort of shit we're talking about, right? Yeah. did it for the afterlife. That's the sort of shit we're talking about, right? Yeah. I just like, yeah, I wouldn't want it to be a completely morose affair. I would want people to have a good time.

Yeah, I agree. As much of a good time as you can have. Well, it also depends on how you died. If you died today, it would be like really fucking crazy. But like, if you went at 92, like, you know what I mean? It's a little, it's a little bit like, holy shit, none of us thought he'd get that far. Yeah, you busting out the play girl issue like finally. Oh man. Did you see Superman Walt?

I did. What did you think? Oh, nobody asked me. Did you go? I saw it on purpose because I wanted to be able to speak with you guys about it. Usually I just sit here and listen. I should not assume. I'm not doing it for Fantastic Four though.

I saw that trailer. Actually everything I see about the Fantastic Four gives me hope. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I want to see it. I'm like, wow, this is – it looks intense. It looks dire. And that's what I need after Superman. What did you think? I'm curious because you're of the three of us, obviously you dwarf Brian's love for Superman.

I think you dwarf my love for Superman. I too, I love the character, but only one of us in the room has a tattoo of the S, of the shield. So I would love to know your thoughts on Superman. Should we say super spoilers for people who? I guess. Come on. If Brian went to see it, we should talk about it.

This motherfucker went to see a movie. Yeah, I went out of my way. He made the effort to go see a movie. I'm sorry, listeners. If you haven't seen it yet, we're going to do some super spoilers. If I saw it, you guys should be on the floor. Yeah, there's no way we cannot talk about it. What did he go see the movie for then?

You liked it. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I did like it. I liked it quite a bit. I had some quibbles with it. You know, the whole world turning on him and then coming right back over one new story was a little bit like, I don't know if I would've committed

to this all the way, but I thought he was a great Superman. I really liked him. I thought the cast across the board was great. Guy Gardner, I loved. I love the take on Guy Gardner. They nailed Mr. Terrific. I thought I like the robots. I mean, they really, I really just liked the whole fucking movie. Like I really got into it. You seem like I see the look on your face. You look like you didn't dig it. Okay. Well, I'll tell you the things I liked. I think the guy who played Superman was able to do something the previous Superman wasn't able to do, which was make him likeable. I don't know if the other guy, Henry Cavill, he was a little bit too intense and too somber.

He was almost like a grim Superman. He barely smiled. It felt like in any of the movies. This Superman was friendly, likable and. More human, would you say, than like? Sure, than the previous Superman. Um, so I thought he did a great job. I thought the story was a mess.

There were a lot of subplots going on. Oh my, I felt like we, and I get it. I know what he, what he was going for, but it really felt like this was part 12 of a 12-part series and we missed the first 11 episodes. Oh really? I felt like, I went with my daughter so she doesn't have the luxury, the privilege that her father has to have all this knowledge about all these characters. So she's like, what's Mr. Terrific's powers? I'm like, uh,

he has balls that he controls. And what is he, a hacker? I was like, yeah. I didn't know what the, I mean, he had powers and shit, but I don't really know what his powers were. I'm kind of aware of him from the JSA, but I was like, they did a really piss poor job, I thought, of giving us what Mr. Terrific was about. I thought Hawk Girl was... It looked like a CW costume. Guy Garner. Yeah, Hawk Girl was one of the things that I was like,

I might have cut her out of the movie. They didn't give her anything to do. I was like, it's not, she was one of the quibbles that I have. I'm like, they didn't really give her anything to do. And that one scene where she's screaming didn't do it for me. No, that scream would have been cut for me.

That was so cring No, that scream would have been cut for me. That was so cringy, that scream. But go to Guy Gardner. You didn't like Guy Gardner. Guy Gardner, yeah, he was fine. What was with the hair? Was the hair? It's always been that hair.

Oh, it's always been that way. Like a bald haircut from the Stooges. Right, yeah. He's always had it from the late 60s, early 70s, his first appearance in the comics. But the whole pocket universe with a ferryman, an alien ferryman, kind of like you're in hell but you're not in hell. I thought maybe it was a boom tube at first for Apocalypse, but it wasn't. That's what I thought.

It was a boom tube at first, right? That prison, just this connect for prison in limbo just looks so uninspired to me. It's just like rooms that you could see, I don't know, at least empty rooms with people in them, almost like a curio cabinet of people. It was so silly and stupid, I thought. And like even the crimes are like, well, you were a shitty girlfriend to your laptop. Which I can get it. Like it was a vindictive jerk off Lex Luthor,

but the dog was awesome. The Superman robots I enjoyed very much. I know it's 2025 and girls got to fucking get their fucking seat at the table, but Lois Lane flying a fucking spaceship reminded me of 1980s Flash Gordon vibes. I was wondering that myself. I was like, how did she suddenly become like the same thing with The Last Alien? They kind of explained it. It was like your ship is sentient or what?

He's not sentient but like. He says it's intuitive. Intuitive. Yeah. So that was the fix that you could do it. Now she could fly a spaceship badly in it. But yeah, that didn't bother me at all. It's just so corny though. It's just like her getting people together on top of the daily

planet and she's got to drive it because she's a fucking girl. She's lowest lane. If anybody could do it, I think it's lowest lane. Come on. Perry, the fucking guy who ran a fucking newspaper in a world where nobody needs newspapers and he fucking put all that years, he can't be the guy who drives the last fucking, he can't make the last escape from the daily planet before it gets destroyed. It's got to go to his fucking ace reporter, which just happens to be. I would have liked to have seen more of Perry. I like that guy.

He's a good actor. Yeah, he was great. That look he gave. He was on The Wire. Oh, okay. Yeah, he was really good. When he figured out that Lois and Superman were banging, that was pretty fucking funny. When he gives him that look, he's like, what's that?

I thought she did a good job as Lois Lane. I just feel like I agree with you. I think the casting was good. I just feel the story was a bit too just convoluted and it just didn't click for me. It just didn't click for me. I saw it with a couple of people who had no concept of Superman, like Total Newbies, and they followed it. I mean, I didn't get that.

Yeah, my daughter liked it. She was surprised when I said it. She goes, how'd you like it? I said, I didn't like it. She was like, what? Because I liked it. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah.

I mean, just because I didn't like it doesn't mean anything. I have a vision of Superman in my head and some things they hit and some things they missed but I don't think- What did they hit? Give me a positive. Oh, I thought crypto was awesome. I thought finally introducing that lore into the movies was an absolute home run. I'm surprised it took this long to do it because it's so endearing. It's so fun. I thought Lex, I don't know. I don't know if I was that buying his motivations. I know people have been raving about, you know, finally we've got a great Lex, but I

Don't know. It was okay. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. I just yeah, I just was like kind of Like wow, I was stunned actually at times. I was like, wow, I just didn't think they were going this way I never once knew where it was going because I was like It felt at least that much as like I it wasn't cookie cutter because there was shit and I was like, it felt at least that much. It wasn't cookie cutter because there was shit in there. I was like, wow, I'm surprised I'm doing this. But again, I guess that's good in a way too though. The one thing with Lex that I liked Lex, I thought he was great. I maybe wouldn't have made him cry at the end, but I get it. But there was one line when Supergirl came in, and we're getting

into spoilers for sure, but when Superman goes, she goes to other planets to get drunk on the red sun. Yes. So she get drunk? In my head, I was just like, well, the second he said that line, I'm like, so they know, well, they obviously know aliens exist because they know Superman is an alien. So now they're saying that they know that that's widespread, so much so that you could pop over to a planet just to get drunk. That made me be like, well, then why is Lex so focused on Superman?

Wouldn't he be like, there's a universe of aliens out there? You know what I mean? It just felt like- Yes. Well, also, yeah. Why has he got a man on just for Lex when Haw Hawke Girl, Mr. Terrific, and Guy Gardner are also, oh, they're flaunting their powers and making every human being look like an ant. Yeah, but they're human, I guess.

I guess because they're human. So if Superman just didn't reveal he was an alien, it would just be like, I got my powers from bitten by a radioactive bug. Yeah, maybe. And Lex would be like, well, he's still human. And he wouldn't have had this angry. Well, what about Hawkeirl? She's an alien I bet she didn't reveal it to anybody yet. They didn't really go into Thangar and stuff like that in the movie

They didn't even mention it, right? Right What did you think, Bri? Oh, Thangar? No, no, the whole movie in itself. I felt the same way you did which was like it was messy. It was a lot of different stuff going on at the same time. I also agree with Q and as much as like I thought that the like turning on Superman was a little bit too quick and then the pulling them back to their bosom was a little fast. Yeah. I thought the war thing at the end was just-

Well, they're starting to get into lessons. Yeah, but the war thing felt like it was just so unrealistic in terms of how wars are fought in terms of where there's a mass group of people and they bring their kids with them to the front line. I noticed that. Someone's holding kids with them in their arms. Let's stop these tanks. Let's bring Junior and all the infants too.

Yeah, I got a club and my kid. Well, they thought Superman was going to show up. That's true. Okay. Yeah. I still think it's negligent on the parents to rely on Superman showing up just in time so because that's kind of bad parenting to assume that soups is going to show up to save the day. But I

guys you didn't love when when like I like to reveal that Lex was like, No, no, I didn't I didn't start a war to became a king. Like I started all that just to fucking get you to come at me. Like I thought that was like a good Lex Luthor beat where he's thinking like five steps ahead, starting wars just to get Superman involved in his mechanisms. I don't know, I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, as long as he can sic his clone of Superman on him, I think he'll engage Superman

regardless of how, you know, doing all that war stuff too. As long as he sends out somebody with the powers of that clone to start destroying Metropolis, Superman's going to show up. So it's kind of, again, it's kind of clunky, the whole Middle East inclusion of that whole subplot of like, well, I'm going to get to own a piece of the Middle East, Luther was like. Yeah, but it was all bullshit. It was all bullshit just to get Superman to interfere in international affairs. Oh, he was trying to force Superman to make a move that the world would frown upon.

That's what he said. He said that specifically. He's like, I started the war. He goes, you think I started the war to fucking blah, blah, blah. He goes, no, I started it just so just to have you get involved. Oh, okay. Yeah. I might've missed that. Yeah. I thought that was cool. It is. It is. I did think when he had a Superman clone, I'm like, well,

if you have a Superman clone that looks just like Superman, you can, you can have him go out and do bad shit and nobody will fucking think that it's a clone. Yeah. I tell you, by an hour and a half in, I was like, I wish this dog was in the whole movie the whole time and maybe the rest of the cast. I would just watch the crypto movie. I would just watch the crypto movie. I don't need anybody and all this other nonsense that's going on. Oh, wow. Yeah, I liked him. I thought he was a good guy. I don't need anybody and all this other nonsense that's going on. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I liked him. I thought he was a good guy. I just had fun watching it. I was into it. I was just getting excited. I did say afterwards, I was like, I want to see it one more time to lock in because when your head starts going to like, if he's got a clone, why is he doing this? I want to see it again with those in it.

But I had a blast. There was no part in it that I was not happy to be in that theater watching the movie. Pete Slauson Yeah, the whole, it feels at times like the story is a blur and the visuals are a blur. Like a bright blur. There's just this weird brightness about it that it doesn't have that classic kind of cinema look. I don't know why. It's like a video game almost more than a movie. I can't describe it, but it didn't- More like a comic book.

It feels like more like this, like a modern, what's it called? You put something over an image, like it's a- A filter? Yes, like this kind of modern filter where it doesn't look like movies of the past anymore. Hmm. It's hard for me to describe. I'm not going to put it properly into words words though, but it's just a brightness about it that is, I wonder if it's even done on purpose with some sort of feedback from computer watching and things of monitoring computer screens and stuff.

Yeah, I would assume that's a choice, man. I don't think anything you saw on screen was by accident. He's probably trying to counter how dark Man of Steel was and trying to make it look poppy and a little bit more like a comic book. I do agree with you though that I think that you needed a direct 180 from the previous Superman movies, which were kind of somber and too realistic maybe. I would have agreed with that direction if I was him too, of going in a different direction than the previous Superman movies.

Metamorpho? You didn movies. Metamorpho? You didn't like Metamorpho? I thought he looked awesome. I think his powers are cool. I think it's – again, I think you're just – I get it because I don't want to watch a movie where we're going to get the origins of Mr. Terrific, Metamorpho, Hawkeye Girl, Guy Gardner. That just weighs the movies down as they have in the past when you introduce a whole bunch going to get the origins of Mr. Terrific, Metamorpho, Hawkeye Girl, Guy Gardner.

That just weighs the movies down as they have in the past when you introduce a whole bunch of characters. But I wonder if the audience is like, who is this guy? Where did he come from? Where was he? And how did he become Lex Luthor's prisoner? Who's that girl that like, wow, he has a baby and it's just, you know, it's just a lot.

None of that threw me at all. I just rolled with that. We have the advantage of knowing who Rex is. We have the advantage of knowing his, all that stuff. We can't unknow it. So as we go into her with a leg up on people, I think too. Yeah, like I didn't know any of that. Right.

Morpho stuff. Yeah, I didn't know any of it. Poor Brian Johnson. I know. Lost wandering around in a movie theater, not knowing what the fuck's going around. Asking random people, like, do you know what's going on? The information provided was like, I thought the information provided was like, look, this guy, Lex is like, this guy could change his chemical composition.

I turned him into kryptonite. The guy's like, I got a kid over there, which is why I'm doing this. I mean, all that information was in there. I don't know that. Maybe it's just a bad period right now where I'm like, I wasn't going to like anything right now where I'm like, I wasn't going to like anything right now. No, I mean, I wouldn't make excuses for you not loving it. You know what I mean?

You just didn't dig it as much. I might have dug it if I'd saw it at a different point though. I just saw it kind of like, again, it looks again, it looks fine, but it's, to me, the story was a little bit too much going on for, and again, I just feel like if I'd just seen the dog for an hour and a half, I would have been fine. The dog, that was my favorite line in the movie was about the dog when Lois is like, you're going to turn yourself in for a dog? And he's like, yeah, not even a very good dog, but he's alone and he's scared.

I was like, that's fucking Superman. You know what I mean? That's fucking Superman right there. That was a great moment. I agree with you. That's what I'm saying. If the whole movie was about crypto. What did you think about the take on the parents?

Because I loved it. I loved that they were that fucking slow. The Krypton. No. Krypton parents? The Kry... Human parents. Martha and John.

Oh, okay. I let Brian go. I mean, I thought they were okay. They were a couple of old people. You know? They're actually much older than I thought they were going to be. They didn't really do much differently than you didn't. They kind of were right out of the comic book mold of his Kansas parents, right?

Yeah, I thought that the leaning all the way into that Kansas accent was pretty fucking crazy. I love that, how they spoke so slow. So, yeah, all right. It really was big. They went big with it. Yeah, I liked that they lived in a ranch house, not like a big old fucking farmhouse.

I was like, holy shit, Superman grew up in a little small house with a wood paneling bedroom? I was like, that's kind of cool. You know what I mean? I liked all that take on it. I do think it was a stroke of genius though to have the motivation of his Kryptonian parents

to be, that he would be a conqueror and to put a seed into every woman that he could find. I thought that was so sinister, so dark, and a really clever twist on the mythos of Jor-El and what's his mom's name? L'Arel? Yeah, L'Arel. Yeah. I thought that was a great twist of the, I'll put a twist on it to make it, put everything on its head basically from what we've seen in the comics and what we've seen in previous

movies. I thought that was well done and very dark. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it though. Yeah. I liked it. I mean, I've seen that in the comic book that's happened once or twice in like Elseworlds and stuff. I did like it.

I was like, oh, that's cool. They make Jor-El a fucking son of a bitch. Now, would you, let's say you were the benefit of being saved by Superman, maybe even not directly, maybe indirectly by, you know, there was a, and something was happening and Superman showed up and saved your city. Would that tape be enough for you to be like, ah, I'm fucking throwing tomato cans, tomato soup cans at Superman when he walks by. I'm so mad at him now because of that video. No, no, no, that was the stuff I had the big problem.

Cause one, it was also like basically the plot of Man of Steel too. Like they turned against them, Lex Luthor blew up the fucking Capitol building, they blamed Superman, you know what I mean? Like it was kind of like, and I, you know, that was the part of the movie that I was like, I was like, I don't really need to see the world turning on him, but I didn't hate it, you know what I mean? Like it was kind of like, and I, you know, that was the part of the movie that I was like, I was like, nah, I don't really need to see the world turning on them, but I didn't hate it, you know?

And I thought it was a little quick. So is this the best Superman movie that's ever been made or is it, or is there still, is it still 78 and Superman 2? It's still Donner, which is shocking, right? In a world where you can do anything. And these guys were struggling, the OGs, like Donner, were struggling to make you feel like, well, you'll believe a man can fly, but you're like, not really. It still doesn't look like he's flying, but the shit's so good. I don't care. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, rich. Yeah. He, yeah, we're, he looks like he's flying. Okay. Let's not forget that, you know, Superman, as much as we all love that movie, like has that weird Lois Lane poem in the middle of it that if they drop that into this movie, you'd be like, what the fuck? But it is a testament then to those cats. They were basically making movies with fucking

sticks and stones compared to what they're making movies with now. And it still holds up as the best version of Superman we've ever seen. Those guys, those cats, you know, can sit back and smoke a victory, fucking cigar again. Because in 2025, they tried it again and it's still not better than that one. That's fucking amazing when you think about it, because of all the technology you have now, but all the things you can do. The number of years you had to come up with a story, a script. It's still fucked up that that's still the case. I liked on this new one.

It was very brief, but I think it was Lex talking about flooding the internet with comments or something that had all the monkeys screaming, the social media nod nod that they did. That was, that made me laugh. That made me laugh too. Then I went home and I was like, I told Mary Beth, I was like, this is the same guy who did Guardians of the Galaxy. We should watch that. Cause I remembered liking it. I went back and watched it.

I was like, I don't know who any of these people are. I don't know what's going on. But you saw it already? I had seen it. I saw it in theaters. I saw it in theaters and I was like, what the fuck is going on in this movie? I don't know any of these characters. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, but if you watch the movie-

I'm singing it to Mary Beth. I'm like, it's a great movie because I remembered liking it, but maybe it was the third one I liked or something or the second one. Yeah. That's funny. I love those movies. I didn't know what was going on. Do you think there's maybe a case that maybe Lex Luthor just isn't the proper villain for a Superman movie? Do you think maybe there's the case to be made that it just doesn't work? It's just, okay, we have to swallow that he can do anything and he has all these abilities. It's just too much to think that just some smart dude is a worthy enough adversary for us to sit

down for two hours and watch a movie? I don't agree with that. I think, one, I like this take on Lex, but maybe you would like a little bit more of the mad scientist Lex, where he's coming up with stuff to defeat him in his workshop or something like that, like that pudgy bald one that was running around for a little, do you remember that? Maybe that's the Lex you need on film. I don't know. Maybe we just need to see a movie that Lex isn't the guy that Superman's taking down. It just feels like it's hard to make him a worthy adversary in a world where this guy can do anything, you know?

Well it's funny because like he's only an adversary. The thing about Lex, right, is like the only way, because right, Superman could burn him up in a second, right? Like there's no, if Superman wants Lex dead, Lex is dead. Which means that Lex is relying on Superman to be a good enough person not to kill him while he's doing all this shit. Which to me is like even makes Lex more of a fucking dickhead because he's like, no, I know he's a good person. I know he's a good alien, but I don't like that he fucking hovers 10 feet above me and I'm going to fucking get him. I don't know. I like that. I kind of like.

What do you think of the engineer? The engineer, I would say good start. It didn't feel like the engineer from the comic. The effects look cool. I don't know why he made her a bad guy, but I liked the character in the comics and she looked a little bit much. It just didn't feel like the engineer from the authority a little bit for me. But I liked it.

She was a girl. Remember the bad girl? Yeah. Her hands can turn to like saw blades and shit. Yeah. But I liked it. I liked her. I thought she did a good job. You'll see an authority movie at some point then. Oh, I hope so. That'd be awesome. Yeah. What about a Supergirl movie? Oh, I can't wait. I look man. This is like, I love that little fucking take with her that they did in it. And like, people I know who liked the movie are like, I didn't like the Supergirl bit. And I'm like, I'm like a drunk fucking hot Supergirl coming through the door dressed in this skirt, like playing with a dog.

I'm like, what the fuck don't you like about that? Like, I don't get it. The one thing that I will say for me, it was the exit with like, bitch. It's just too commonplace these days. Yeah, that was, I could see people not liking that. But she was drunk. That's true. Why didn't he call her back though? Hey, just smiling. Who's going to hurt Supergirl?

No, no, no. Why didn't he call her back? Why didn't Superman call upon her as like, shit's going down? It's getting bad. I need some help. I guess because she was hammered on another planet somewhere. Maybe they didn't know where she was. Is that a character thing through the comics with her that she's a drunk or no? No, no. She's like the girl next door sometimes. I don't know what the Peter David one was. Well, the Tom King run that they're making the movie based on is like she's like the girl next to her sometimes. I don't know what, I don't know what the Peter David. Well, the Tom King run that they're making the movie based on is like, she's a little bit more worldly and stuff like that. So I think he's going off that.

Did you catch or did you think that was a mixlplex cameo? Did you catch that little thing? I did. Whoa, where? So when Lois and Superman are sitting by that window having that conversation and they're fighting the Justice gang is fighting. Oh, they look like an amoeba. Yeah.

He goes, Lois is like, do they need you out there? And he's like, nah, it's just an imp from the fifth dimension. They got this. And I was like, oh, I was like, that's fucking Mixleplex. Oh, they got him in the movie. I couldn't you know what? It was hard for me to hear the word imp. And you know, I kind of missed that, that he said imp, but I thought it looked like a big amoeba.

Yeah, no, he said imp from the fifth dimension, which I was like, oh, it would've been- Yeah, it's definitely a mixlplick. It's either him or batmite and batmite doesn't make sense, you know? So yeah, I was like that he got that and even though it wasn't like a little old midget in a fucking bowler cap or whatever the hell they're going to think of. Do you want to see the Matt Reeves, Batman come into this universe and or would you prefer that they stay away and don't mix and a Batman with Superman going forward? Just keep them separate? Or would you like to see them?

I like Robert Patterson as Batman, you know, I didn't love the Batman. Who did I say, Matt Reeves? Why did I say Matt Reeves? No, he directed it. Oh, okay. Did he direct it? Yeah.

Okay. I liked him as Batman. I thought he was, you know, he looks the part, he looks great. You know, I didn't love the Batman like everybody else did. I was kind of like- Yeah, it's weird, because I liked the Batman too. I enjoyed that one. Yeah.

I rewatched it after we talked about it and I liked it more, certainly after I watched the Penguin and then went back and watched the movie. But my initial reaction to Batman is, I think, kind of stands for the most part. I don't like it. So you wouldn't want to see Batman come into Superman's world or keep him? No, I think he could pull it off. I think if they were going to do that, I wouldn't be like, oh, they're going to fucking ruin it because I'm assuming that it would adapt to Superman style a little bit more than the

other direction. Mm hmm. You know, but aren't they doing like a Batman and Robin movie? So I don't even know if Robin would fit in that world anyway. I think you do kind of need like a Batman that matches this version of Superman a little bit more, especially if he's going to have a Robin. Ooh, that's going to be a much different Batman than we've seen in quite some time then. If we're going to match this world and this kind of mentality and lightheartedness of the Superman movie.

Yeah, that's going to be something that moviegoers have not seen in quite some time, a Batman that's going to fit into this world. Yeah. I'm excited to see that though. I'd love to see that. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, why not? We've seen the other, we've seen the fucking bleak, somber Grim Batman now for seemingly decades. Let's see the other side of the fucking pillow.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited by you, man. Yeah, I don't know, I liked it. Most people I know like it. But Brian, what's your ultimate takeaway at the end? Like, what would you grade it? I mean, I walked away being like, it was all right. Probably for story, I would have to give it a C because it was difficult to follow. There was so much going on.

Visuals I'd give it an A. It looked pretty amazing. My walk away with it was like, I'll probably never watch that again. Overall, what was it? A C? No, I would say probably a B. B? Wow, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. I can see why people would like it. I can see why people would like it.

I can see why people would dig it. But again, like you guys have that advantage of going in and you're like, I know who every single one of these motherfuckers is, whereas like somebody like me or Mary Beth or whatever, like, you know, you go in there and you're like, okay. Like that's why sometimes like the little bit of backstory is good. You know, or like, I know that you can't do an origin story for every movie, but it is good if they just give you a little bit. Because like you say, Mr. Terrific, I'm like, I don't know what his deal is. I thought they nailed Terrific.

I loved it. The costume looked fucking amazing. Yeah, he looked great. Like the band playing on the sleeve. Yeah, he looked really good. His performance was good. I got what he was going for. I guess, yeah, I guess if you're saying like, did they ever expressly say he's just a genius who has mastery over all this stuff?

I guess they didn't say that, right? Well, yeah, maybe they did though, but it's possible they did. They threw a lot at you. Yeah, there's a lot of introductions. There are a lot of things and they threw it at you in dialogue. Sure. So, yeah. So, if you're like, if you have a thought in your head, even for a second, like of something

else other than the movie, you might miss something. Sure. Yeah, that's probably what happened with me is, let's say at times my brain would drift from what I was watching and maybe that's why I missed some of the things that were on screen, some of the explanations. There was a moment in the movie that I was like, oh, Brian's going to love this. And I'm just curious if you even clocked it, Brian, because sometimes when I watch movies, I think about shit, oh, Brian's gonna like that.

When she is walking out of the Hall of Justice and she fucking makes fun of Guy Gardner's hair, and he gets up and he goes, what, what the what? And then it becomes very clear that he heard exactly what she said, because he goes, my hair, my hair? I was like, oh, that's so fucking funny. Brian's gonna like that.

I did think it was interesting, somebody called attention to it, because I didn't know that that was an ongoing thing like his bad hair. Did you like the hall of justice? I thought it was great, man. Like straight from the fucking comic and shit like that. It looked cool.

I thought it was straight from the cartoon super. Oh, I guess that's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah. Like the old one. That's what I meant. Um, but even the comic books started, started using it too. Yeah.

I started adopting that style. Um, again, like I just wish they'd even given Hawke girl a little more to do or cut Hawke girl out completely. Um, yeah, cause she just flew in that one circle and I was like, uh, you know, it could have been at some point you get like, well, we've got to start giving some time back to Superman. I did think the same thing that I always think in these movies where I'm like, I'm looking, I look at Metropolis and I'm like, who the fuck lives here?

Like, but building rifts, buildings going down like dominoes, kaiju all over the place. Like, it seems not safe. And I was surprised they killed somebody. I thought it was going to be one of those movies where nobody died. That was fucking nuts. Yeah. When they blew that guy right in the fucking head, I was like, whoa, it felt tonally out of the movie a little bit.

Yeah, it really did. I didn't expect it. Well, they also killed Hawker killed somebody too. That I didn't mind that. I didn't mind. I was like, okay, like, I guess that's what they're going with her because that's it. But Lex doing it. I was like, wow, that is, that seems like Lex not smart enough for Lex.

Like now he's got to find somebody else to bring in. It's a second bullet. Lex doesn't fuck it. You know what I mean? Do it so he doesn't have to go through all this for nothing. I was surprised that they did that, that they blew that guy's head out in front of Superman. That was pretty crazy. But I liked it. I really enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to going to see it in IMAX. I want to see it on the big, big screen. I didn't get to going to see it in IMAX. I want to see it like on the big, big screen. I didn't get to do that. How do you think they also were able to get crypto to drill? Like didn't they have things coming out of his head?

Didn't they have? I think he had a helmet on. Was it a helmet? Oh, okay. And his eyes were like held open by things, right? He was looking at the squirrels and shit. Okay. I thought maybe they had put like some sort of, they had surgically did something

to his head it looked like. I don't think so. But I was, I even loved like the line where he's like, crypto, get the toy. And then crypto just goes fucking nuts on it. You're right. Everything with crypto was fucking awesome. It was like straight up awesome. Yeah, it's, it's a great, great move on his part to finally introduce those aspects of the continuity and the rich

Superman lore. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it would be, for me it was like a five though. Five out of ten, all right. Yeah, just kind of like, I appreciate the effort to create something so different from any Suriname movie we've ever seen. But just some things just did not click for me. But style-wise, man, the fucking Metamorpho looked amazing. It's too bad, like, he just can't hold his own movie, though. And they did what Marvel did, which was, like, introduce these characters in movies,

then bring them all together, which I don't feel DC has that same kind of confidence in their movies or they're going to sink in $150 million to make a solo Metamorpho movie. Probably not. But he's joining, it seemed like he was joining the Justice League at the end though, right? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so, you know, maybe he'll be around. That character is, you know the actor who played Metamorpho is, it's, did you watch Barry Bryan? Yeah.

Oh yeah, he's a ball, Hank. It's Hank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, that's fucking cool. No ho, Hank. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's fucking cool. No whole Hank. Yeah, all right. I had a feeling, I did have a feeling when I was watching a Walt that your review was going to come in somewhere around here. Yeah. I did. As I was watching it, I was like, you know, just like

I was watching with Brian, knowing that you're going to like that haircut scene, I had a feeling this was kind of going to be your issues with it. I completely understand, Ben, but I'm just telling you, I was so happy in that theater watching Superman fucking fly around and be a really good guy. I know that he felt like Superman to me, which I love. Oh yeah. So saying the actor did come off as completely pure and pure of heart. This is maybe the purest of heart Superman since Christopher Reeve. Yeah.

And maybe more so than Christopher Reeve even. Christopher Reeve kind of had to play a little bit of Superman with a little bit of a, kind of a little bit, just a bit of spite. He did go back., he did go back This current 2025 Superman, I think he's so good of heart. He wouldn't even do that. He's not petty enough to fly to Alaska or wherever the fuck that diner was and start shit all over again. I mean, think about that, right? He flew there and he's waiting over the diner until that guy sat down and he's like, oh, fuck, he's here. I'm going to get

him. It was awesome. It's great. But Fantastic Four is now a pin in all my hopes. That last little bit of teaser we got, man, was so, so gripping me with the – where he's doing the press conference read and they're like, what's the Galactus say? He's like, we couldn't come to terms with Galactus. He goes, what were the terms? He wanted our child, which we thought – which we were not – was not negotiable. To me, that's like, oh, that's cool. I want, I'm really intrigued now.

I want to, I really want to see this movie bad. And I'm hoping that it is the, it's the summer flick for me, the comic book summer flick for me. Yeah, I'm with you, man. I'm excited to see it. Nothing I've seen so far has poked me off of it at all. Yeah, me, I agree. Yeah, the female Silver Surfer was like, come on, man, what are you guys doing? Until I

saw her in action and I'm like, oh, I guess who gives a shit. Yeah, I agree. Like she seems creepy and cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She does. She looks like she, even the small snippets we've seen it is she does look good though. So, so be it. Like you said, you think, I think, like you said, I think she's at a continuity or at a different world, an alternate world Silver Surfer.

Maybe we'll see a Norrin Rad Silver Surfer the next time we see a Marvel movie. I guess Secret Wars, maybe in Secret Wars we'll see a Norrin Rad. That'd be fucking cool. I thought he even looked good in the one that they made 15, 20 years ago, like Rise of the Silver Surfer. I thought he looked pretty cool. Yeah, he looked like living chrome. Yeah, it was dope, man. I don't know. It's a good time, man. I'm excited to see where James Gunn goes with this shit next. I'm excited for Peacemaker Season 2 starts up soon. I love that first season, man. I think it's so great. I'm declaring it's a good time to be a comic

book fan again, it feels like. We're getting back to good stuff. You're nerdgasm. Fucking nerdgasm. Popping off. Yeah, yeah. Even at our advanced stage, you pop in nerdgasms, huh? That's great. So one thing you know, no blue chew. You don't need that, you know I don't need no nerd blue chew

That's awesome that you still can you know, yeah still Yeah can pop off for it. You off. I even saved the ticket stub from Superman. I can't tell you the last time I did that. Wow, that is. I put it on the fridge with a magnet. That is fucking, that is so nerdy. It's fucking wholesome and pure. I loved it.

Yeah. It sounds like you're calling me gay. I don't know why, but it sure does. There is no reals. And even Kat doesn't get no, she gets no set up or Steve Lombardi. Yeah. Those were, I felt Easter eggs for guys like me and you. We're not going to tell you.

There's just not enough time. Look, she's in a fucking, she's got big blonde hair. She's got big fake tits. She's in a dress. You know it blonde hair. She's got big fake tits. She's in a dress You know, it's a grant if you know who she is If you don't then I don't know it shouldn't hurt your it should not hurt your ability to enjoy the movie if you don't Know who cat grand is right, right, right And and I was surprised they gave Steve Lombardi as much time as they did. Oh, yeah

I was like, all right, they're really in love with this character. And I thought Lois, you know, other than flying a spaceship, I thought she was fine and to her whatever she was given to, you know, the lifting she was able to do. I thought she did a good job too. Yeah, I thought she did a good job. And I liked when she was yelling at the Justice League being like, this is your fucking friend, assholes. Like you're going to fucking leave them in there. And I was like, that's fucking, I was like, this is awesome. Like, that's cool. You know, she's going to them for help and she's telling them why, why they're assholes. Like you're gonna fucking leave them in there?" And I was like, that's fucking, I was like, this is awesome. Like that's cool. You know, she's going to them for help and she's telling them why, why they're assholes. I, yeah, I just dug it.

But you know, you did see the nod to the modern audience where, where he was like, Suryan comes out of the pocket universe and he's like, Lois, you came to rescue me because for fucking a hundred years prior, S we're going to have to rescue her. Okay, we get it. You're a modern day fucking filmmaker. But something about it. I agree with you normally. I agree with you normally.

There's something about Lois Lane for me that excuses that a little bit. Okay, I know. Like if Vicki Val was running around doing it I'd be like, come on man. I like my lowest tied up on a fucking train track That's my mom that's the lowest I grew up with General Sam Lane's daughter bro. She knows how to kick ass and who was the the flag guy? Was that setting up a Suicide Squad stuff? Remember the flag, the general flag? Oh yeah, he's, that's Rick Flagg Sr.

His father was the, that character already appeared in the Creature Commandos cartoon voiced by the same actor. So the Suicide Squad. It happened, yeah. His son got killed by Peacemaker. But wait a minute though, so if Peacemaker's in Suicide Squad, that means all those characters exist in this universe too then? Yes, so far, yeah.

So Harley Quinn exists? I would say, I'm sure there's going to be some explanation in the second season of peacemaker to make it line up Okay, because they were already doing a multiverse thing in the in the commercial for peacemaker. Okay Okay, so I bet you they're gonna find the way to line it up because we plays What guys I say cuz we already met a flag in suicide squad member flag. This is his father. That's his father Okay. Yeah peacemaker killed his son. He mentions that in the Creature Commandos cartoon. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah.

All right. So he's doing that thing where if somebody voices that like they want the actors to do the voices in the cartoon so they could have all the continuity mix over and stuff like that. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. So there was that. His hair was white in the cartoon and not in the movie, which I was like, oh, maybe that's a sign that it's another universe or something, but I don't know. Are there too many universes?

I mean, I'm ready to be done with the multiverse, but think about how when we own the multiverse, right? Remember those days when nobody knew what the fuck the idea of the multiverse was? I missed those days. And we did. What's that? I missed those days. I missed those fucking days. Like what happened?

They came along, they took one of our toys and they fucking abused it to the ground so they could give us 50 versions of Spider-Man. It's like guys, fucking fuck you guys. Like, does nobody care about these characters enough to fucking not make 100 versions of them? No. Remember when Peter Parker was special? Marvel doesn't. Wow. Yeah. All right. Sorry. I wish the multiverse would go away

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All right. I had a Spider-Man wallet once. It wasn't a Ridge wallet. No. And I remember I had birthday money in it and I left it at a store and I probably was the most unconsolable as I've ever been in my life as I realized my wallet and my 10 bucks in birthday money was gone. That horrible realization that both were gone. That's why you need one of those air tag attachments.

Yeah. It was 1975. I don't know if any air tag would have helped in that situation, but boy, I remember that took a long time to get over. Yeah. There was thoughts of like just ending it. Even at that age, I was like, there's not a point living. I've lost the wallet. It's supposed to go on now. Birthday money.

$10 gone, wallet gone. $10 in, that gets you a lot of shit. That was like 50 bucks back then. Oh yeah. It's at that fucking, that's still raw when I think of it now. That wound still hasn't really fully healed. And you wonder who found it. Who threw your wallet away after taking the $10 out?

Yeah. I remember. Son of a fucking bitch. Yeah. I wish I had any thought of that. Uh, Walt, I wanted to give you a little piece of advice before we go. Yes. If you bring your side piece to a Coldplay concert.

I saw this. Yeah, I saw that. Do not hug them. Keep it a decent remove. Otherwise you're going to get busted. I saw this. I, I, somebody made the comment and it's so true is that, well, go ahead and explain it though before.

Okay. So, uh, there was a Coldplay concert and they have a kiss cam just like they have in some of the sports arenas and they focused on a guy who was a woman who was standing in front of a guy and he had his arms wrapped around her. Canoodling. Canoodling. So they were the, you know, they're both facing the same way. They're both facing towards the stage. The kiss cam goes up and the look of shock that registers on their faces is priceless.

Meryl Streep couldn't have had that look. I don't think if they told her she had the look scared from getting caught cheating. I guess in that moment you're like, maybe I'm faster than the camera. She tries to cover her face up and the guy ducks away. Well, somebody made a comment and I was like, oh yeah. If they had just played it cool, because to my knowledge, this wasn't being broadcast on television or anything, right? No.

So if they didn't bring attention to themselves acting so guilty, nobody would have even noticed it. It probably never would have made the internet. But the fact that they acted the way they did as if they were – like the entire planet was watching them. And they are now. Yeah. That's the takeaway is that if you had just played at Joe Cool and not acted as if you had your hand in a cookie jar, Coldplay never would have mentioned it.

They wouldn't have commented on it. It would have went on to somebody else and nobody would have ever known. You got to be a quick thinker though, because I think your initial reaction is to be like, oh fuck, I'm busted. Once you put on that face, people know. And the girl, I saw a little interview with the girl who actually recorded it, because she recorded it with her phone off the kiss cam. Yeah, that's where it came from. And she was like, she's like, I just got to, all I have to say to you is play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Like she had no sympathy for anything. That sucks. But I mean- Well, that's what you get for going to Coldplay concert, I guess. I thought you were a Coldplay guy. No, quite the opposite. Really? Okay.

I like a couple songs from Coldplay. Yeah. God put a smile on you. I like that song. I'm not here to stop you from enjoying something. I like that song. You don't like Coldplay? Weren't they like the Millennium Beatles or something they called them?

I think you're talking about Oasis, buddy. Oh, am I confusing them? They kind of sound the same, right? He likes Oasis, yeah. I like Oasis, yeah. Oh, okay. Oasis doesn't suck, man. I've been telling you this since I was fucking keeping my CD from getting stolen at Pittsburgh, dude It's true. Oh, I don't have anything against Oasis.

99. Yeah, man. Fuckin' Oasis. Why don't you, what's the, what's the hold up of Coldplay? What don't you like about them? I find their songs a little like Obvious if that makes sense. Like it, it, it, it just never connected with me. I'm always just like, look, I can't perform this, but I can write this. Really? Wow. Yeah, I don't know. Something about Coldplay-

It's by the numbers you're saying. For me. And I have gotten a lot of pushback over the years from people who are like, no, Coldplay's fucking awesome and stuff and blah, blah, blah. I've just never connected with their music. Now are they the two brothers who are always fighting? That's Oasis. Oh, fuck man.

Do a lot of people confuse Oasis and Coldplay? This is the first time I've heard that. I can't imagine that it's not, that it hasn't happened. Okay, because I, wow, I just think, when I think of those two bands, I kind of- Conflate them? Like Oasis Play, like they're just one big band. No. Oasis is like grittier and more blue collar working class type. Brian just rolled his eyes when you used the word gritty to you.

Well, I'm talking about- Always. There's stuff on the ceiling. I'm talking about in comparison to Coldplay. Also they own Gridio. I saw comments where like, can you imagine finding out your husband likes Coldplay this way? A lot of comments like that.

Oh, so it's kind of like you would kind of be looked as an insult to say you like Coldplay. No, I think they're a very popular band. Is it like Nickelback when people make fun of people who like Nickelback? See, here's the truth is I would probably like Nickelback songs more than than Coldplay. Oh People love Coldplay there are People I like that one song To my I don't want to shit. I thought it was funny, this guy, this CEO of the company, he was with the HR. Everything about it is just awesome.

It's the CEO of the company with the HR lady. Breaking a lot of rules. You're really fucking saying fuck you to everybody in the company. It's fucking Coldplay, baby. Who gives a shit? Let's party. But he came forward and he issued an apology and a statement and all this stuff. And I'm like, I want to say a goddamn word.

It's not like it was like, say, JLo and Ben got caught cheating or something like that. It's like, it's just some guy. No, I heard this was a big wig. I heard this was one of the most- Well, yeah, he's the CEO of a big company for sure. A big tech company. Like the fourth largest tech company on the planet or something like that. Oh, is it really that big?

Okay. I think he's a fucking mover and shaker in the industry. And again, like you said though, when you have an HR department and you fucking get caught doing that, but you're going to hold your employees to the standards. Feet to the fire. Yeah. Maybe you've even fired some of these people for, but you're, but you're too big to follow the rules.

Oh, well. Yes. Yeah. It's like, it's one of those things where like, you don't really have a dog in the fight, but you're still enjoying watching it. I fucking love Coldplay, man. Coldplay fucking put it truth to power, like fuck you and your fucking rules. That's what Coldplay does.

They don't follow the rules. I would love for you to listen to a Coldplay album beginning to end and give me your review. Would you do that for me? Would you try it and see how far you can get? Yeah. I mean, I own a Coldplay album. It has that song on it, God put a smile on your face It's the only track I listen to

The other tracks though, cuz I do I'll give a listen to it Consciously uncoupled from fucking what's my name? This is the guy that fucking consciously uncoupled from fucking what's-his-name. One of the Peltra? Yeah, he's like a, he's, look, I don't know the guy. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he comes off his very humorless. Noel Gallagher. And self-serious.

Right? Noel Gallagher's the dude? No! That's Oasis! Yeah, that's the other guy. Noel and Liam. Chris Martin, Chris, Chris something? Chris Martin, I think you're... Who's Noel Gallagher, then? That's Coldplay, a guy, I think. I think you're right. Who's Noel Gallagher then? That's Coldplay, a guy I think. I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, Liam Noel Gallagher, other brothers in Oasis.

But I love the fact that they just take down fucking multi-billionaires like that. They don't. Some girls did. Oasis will. Yeah, but with Coldplay's fucking permission. Yeah, that's true. They could have had, they could. Well, Coldplay called him out. The guy that's true. They could have had, they could have.

Well, Coldplay called him out. The guy called him out. He was like, they're either really shy or they're having an affair. And he was right. Oh man. Coldplay's been at like, they reformed for this tour, right? I don't, I have no fucking, oh Oasis did, Oasis did, yes. Dude, I think you just like Oasis.

I don't think you just like Oasis. I don't think you know a single Coldplay song. Tell him Steve Day. I think you're right. I don't know what I'm talking about.