Tell Em Steve-Dave - #664: Hermaphroditic Butterfly

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Q’s on top of the world, Sage is turning 20, Walt & Git ‘Em have a misunderstanding, Ming loses his tech skills, JTHG is pussified, new game: Con stories or Convention stories. https://public.live...read.io/media-kit/tesd

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Healing Pause by Carrie at gmail.com. That's H-E-L-I-N-G, P-A-W-S-B-Y-C-A-R-R-I-E at Gmail. Thank you. The genies out of the bottle, the internet just fucking fucked everybody. Oh, man, man. Fuck Jimmy. What did you guys talk about? Not telling him.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Steve Dave. I'll tell you that much. Merry a mention from what I'm told. Tell him, Steve, Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave. I look around this table. I see so many handsome faces. We've got a full house today.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We got BQ. Hello. We got Walt. Yo. We got the newly rehabbed Gidim. How you stanking? And fan favorite, Ming Chen. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. Yeah, Ming. You've been on a bit lately. You have been on in some time, and now we're really getting a treat with you showing up like this. Yeah, I'm around. I'm here. Like the old days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Yeah. Feels good. Yeah. Well, I asked him to come back because I saw how energized BQ was with Ming here a couple of weeks ago. I was not wrong. I'm not making a joke. I was like, I just saw a glint in his eye I hadn't seen in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And, you know, I don't know, you know, if it was. You're propping me up. Yeah. Yeah. But I said to myself, man, we got to get Ming Chen in here more to get Q, you know, get that pep in a step again. Yeah, I need it. Actually, today was the first day that I woke up and didn't feel like, you know, blowing my brains out. So to walk in here and then to see Ming, it's like, I'm supercharged for the weekend now.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh, you were, you've been on that lower totem pole? The fucking winter is, I mean, this is the most brutal winter we've had in quite a while. It's grinding me down. You guys don't like the cold, right? It's the cold. I hate it. It's the darkness. It's the dreariness at all.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I went to QS a few times this month already. It was 50 and raining every time. I was getting no breaks. It's just like just a grind, man. But, I mean, Chen's here now. Yeah. I don't worry about it. Lucky West.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I love him. It's like a bomby breeze. You're damn right. I say that with no sarcasm at all, man. He makes me happy. That's insane. You love Key West. Yeah, but I love you.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I appreciate that. I love you longer than I've loved Key West, actually. I appreciate that. It's been almost 30 years now. It's been 30 years. It's been 30 years now, yeah. Actually, this is, I was 19 when we met, and I'm going to be 50 in March. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So, yeah. It's all going by so fast. I know. You start doing the math. You're like, oh, no. Oh, I wasted all this time hanging out with Ming Chen. What the fuck did I do? The fucking.
Starting point is 00:04:51 God damn it. Give me your life. I wasted. my life. There's a line in Star Trek that always struck me that where Picard goes, there's more, you know, you hit a point where there's more days behind you than ahead of you. And that line never meant anything to me.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But now, oh, it's weighing in. You're going to get a tattoo. Yeah. Well, man, you're losing. And Ming Chen's here. You know, no more talk like that. You're right. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You're right. Yeah, you got that right. Funny's your mention, Bluchin's here. going to be talking about them later on. First, I think it's congratulations are in order for somebody at this table. BQ. And me again? You again, Q.
Starting point is 00:05:34 All right. What happened now? I happened to see that the jokers had their biggest episode ever in the 20th. Ratings-wise. With ratings-wise, especially in the 25 to 54 coveted demographic. Yeah. Nice. Nobody knows why.
Starting point is 00:05:53 The network's like, we don't know what the fuck's going. going on, but let's just roll with it. So it's good. Well, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. And that didn't pick you up? You know, it, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It just means I'm probably going to do more. So, you know, you know, but no, it's great. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not really a heard of, really for a show this long and this old to like continue to grow. Yeah. I mean, like it's, it's new territory. Yeah, nobody knows how to really talk about it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I know it's not getting a raise. Was there a special guest? No. It was just just. Just a normal episode. Normal episode. Not a premiere or anything. Just to add it like.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It was the second half of the season and it had to be on for a few weeks, but the ratings are getting stronger each week. Was it during a snowstorm where people were inside? I don't know. Yeah, me across the country. Maybe they were like they were searching. That'd be cool. Something to watch. But it's not even that.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It's like, it's not even that. Because now ratings aren't just the first day. They add in plus one. Plus three, then plus seven, like, because you add up all the people who watch it on DBR or, no, this isn't even counting streaming. Oh, okay. And then you find out, like, we're on the top 10 streaming on Max, too. I don't know. It's fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Look, this guy's unstoppable. Unstoppable. It's a shot of fire, man. Boom, Shackalaka, man. We haven't, but it's, you know, it's, it's great. It's nice. It's nice to hear. It is.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And this is season 13, 14? I think technically it's still season 12. Okay, still. There you go. But it's all a matter of life. That's awesome. You see his big growth on TV. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Look how happy he is in that picture. That's a genuine smile there. Yeah. Him is sound. Yeah, because we were shooting in Tompkins Bagel, which is such a great place to shoot because people are so nice and they send me home with. Bagels. Bagels. So that's what that smile looks like.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I just going to put a picture of Bing on the monitor that we're like. look at. Big cringe. Smiles, everybody. smiles. You want to buy an 8x10 of them? I can say one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 You got it. Yeah. No, it's great. It's great. But thank you. Please, let's stop talking about me. All right. Well, we can't, though.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Because along with cheers. Cheers. Yes. Oh, it was a setup. There's some jeers. Okay. A little bird was tweeting in my ear. One of my spies tells me that Q was on a big podcast, Jericho.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah. How was that? Yeah. You know, I've known. I've been on before. I think this might be a third time on. It's a big podcast, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 What did you guys talk about? Not tell him Steve Dave. I'll tell you that much. Marry a mention from what I'm told. You can't mention everything, I guess. I don't know. You want me to mention Tom Steve Dave? Of course.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Of course we want to. We would like to have Jericho on TSD. Yeah. Why? Because he's a big podcaster. Do you ever know what Chris Jericho is? No. I know he's supposed to be a wrestler, though.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know that guy. Actually, I know that guy. He's on TV, too. Like, he's an actor. A.W. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I think he was in a Kevin Smith movie. Yes, he was. He was in a reboot. That's right. Fuck you. You're in that movie with him. You're in a movie with him. Just not the same scene, but you're in a movie with him.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He's wearing a TSD hat. Yeah. You know, I'm always repos. Oh, he is wearing a hat, though. He's wearing the hat. Come on. You got to give him that much. I'll give him that.
Starting point is 00:09:23 He likes that. hat, though. Yeah, but I wear, you know, our stuff on the show on, you know, it's the highest rated show. Do you read that fucking, you know, I wear. 1.65 plus 3. How I got to beat people over. Is it, the head?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Is it a. I want to talk about any. Let me talk about my other podcast for an hour. Now, do you guys talk a lot of wrestling or is it not even? A little wrestling. A little bit wrestling. But no, he's more just asking me questions. I like that interview.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Mm-hmm. It's bullshit. You know, it's just sitting around. Did he ask you any hard hitting, you know, like, kind of. of like any got-you questions? Softball. Or all softball. It's not even softballs.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's just a conversation, you know what I mean? He's, because we're, you know, we know each other. So it's not really like that. Are you guys, would you consider him like a friend? Yeah. Not an acquaintance. He's a friend. I would put him above acquaintance.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Okay. Yeah. And I'm a fan of his too. So, you know, I like, he's one of my favorite. Is he a top 10 wrestler for you? Oh, he's in top five. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Five. Top five. Top five. What fuck you do it over him? Motherfuck are. You're sleeping? I'm staring out of his eyes. Shut you up.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He's a very big comic bookman fan, too. So we got to give him that. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. He said he'd take flights all the time. It would be on the in flight entertainment. He'd be on the menu. And he would watch us taking flights.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He looks like he may have lost some mass since he wrestled, huh? He looks like he slimmed down quite a bit. He's not done wrestling. I think he's going to come. He's kind of coming out swinging for one more run. but he's in great shape. I'm not saying disparaging his shape, but he doesn't look like the roided out kind of wrestler
Starting point is 00:11:00 than I remember. But he never really was. He's always, he's been bigger than this, I guess, but yeah, he's never been like the giant. If he does come on a pod, don't ask him when last time he wrote it out was. He's also our age. He's in his 50s, so you got to, I got a what?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well, I mean, he's older, you know. He's not, okay. You can still wrestle on your 50s. Sure. He is one of the best ever. He might be the best ever on a mic. In terms of talking shit and on the microphone. Like that side of wrestling where you got to get in the ring and like.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, the promos are. Promos are. The crowd, you mean, right? He is, honestly, he might be the best that ever did it. He's great. He's great. Better than Andre. Who?
Starting point is 00:11:44 The giant. Andre Jion. Mumbled into a microphone in half French. George the Animal Steel. Yeah. Somehow. With his green tongue. Yeah, he's got it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Kabuki. He can take the people, because he does it with humor. Yeah, the Kabuki War. Cocoa beware. He used to spit the green powder out of his mouth. They're still doing it. His Aska now does that. She's part of the Kabuki warriors.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Kabuki. Yeah. Well, there you go. Okay. All right. Well, she was out and about. He's out there. But, but.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I know you want to jeer him, but he's still here, though. He could have joined Jericho's pod. That's true. Defected. I hadn't considered that. It's like a Russian spy or something. He can't do another podcast? A double agent.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Well, there you go. All right. I don't know. It was good. On a personal note, I want to thank people for being so nice about Princess Mitch. I put some pictures up on Instagram and a lot of people comment. to a lot of people and they were very nice about it. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So I appreciate that. And I was wondering, though, like, how long was it before, unless it's still going on, you didn't think about Benjamin Cat every day? Oh, no, I still think about them. Still think about them every day. Without a doubt. Yeah. I mean, it's not even something I have to think about.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, I just think about them every day. I thought it's so funny. It's like, I'll still like, you can still catch me from time to time talking to him. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, because his ashes are in my living room. So I'll be like, you know, shit sucks Benjamin and I have like one of those digital frames. Oh,
Starting point is 00:13:25 because she's loaded with photos of him. Oh, that's cool. So it's just like he's just there. He's always there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going through pictures yesterday and. Aw. Yeah, there she is.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That one, that one didn't come out the way it was supposed to. You were supposed to see a whole cat. I don't know. Cut off by the aquarium. Yeah, I miss that little black nose there. Yeah, it's a great marking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, 12 years old, you said? Yeah, about 12 years old. Well, like a pumpkin nose. A little pumpkin nose. Yeah, like it's cut out like a jack-o-lantern. Yeah, that was her last night right there. Oh, yeah. Hugging you.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Mm-hmm. Good cat. See those claws dug in? Yeah. Holding on for dear life. Yeah. I know. Yeah, so anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So that got me to thinking about, you know, Princess Mitch. I'm like, who's responsible for the epitette on your gravestone? Like, can you write your own? Mine is written. He's already written. Yeah. So he's don't shit here. Yeah. I don't want to reveal yet, but it's already been laid out.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. Because I was thinking, like, if I wrote like, never was a bad word said about him. I think it's awesome. It's not true. But who's going to fucking argue with this guy? Who's going to remember? That stone will be there for 500 years. Yeah, people in the next generation will be like, wow, this must have been some guys.
Starting point is 00:14:42 They're visiting my grave for whatever reason. You remember the other royal ten bombs when he walked, when they've always put Gene Hackman's grave stuff? and it said died saving his family from a burning battleship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's great. That's great. Okay, what are we got here? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Oh, my God, Siege. Her birthday is Sunday. We're recording this on Friday. She's going to be 20. Holy shit. 20 years old. In her 20s. Next year, she can go drinking.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah? She's talking about it. Talking about party. Yeah. Is she allowed to drink? Legally now. I think so, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:18 I found several bottles of schnapps in a room. Well, she has tasted illegally. She wanted to taste sangria, what she liked. But then Marybeth had some other drink, and she wanted to taste it. And she was like, wow. It was like battery acid. But people with Down syndrome could belly up to the bar and order a drink, as long as they're 21? I think as long as her 21.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, you're allowed to do. do whatever you want. All right. So I don't know. Yeah, because where do you draw the line? At what condition then can you not serve somebody? Like, should get him not be allowed to get alcohol? I would say so.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I would say so, yeah. I'd rather serve someone down syndrome at this point. He's been dry for a long time now. Yeah? Yeah. I'm waiting for Super Bowl. I'm waiting for Super Bowl. That's when the damn breaks next Sunday.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. Is it next Sunday? Lotto City. Yeah, Super Bowl. Oh, shit. Idaho City. Wow. Yeah, going to around.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm going to go ham on the nattie. Nice. Yeah, what's the over under on alcohol poisoning? Like, how long they're taking? Like, can we get on draft kings and, uh... Probably. You was coach TDS. Prize picks.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah, prize picks. Sorry, prize picks. Prize picks. No, I'm probably just going to go like, you know, you know, bud lights or something. Now, why did you set this arbitrary date of the Super Bowl Sunday? Well, whenever I would usually do dry January. in the previous years. And then that's what I would break.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It was Super Bowl Sunday. Now, why did you give yourself a January with no alcohol for seemingly a couple years now? You've done this. I heard it on the radio one day when I was like, I was back in the Jeep up leaving Debbie's. And they were talking about dry January on 10-10 wins. And I'm like, I go, what is that? And I googled it. I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I said it sounds like something to, you know, strive for. So I did. And they say that, you know, marketing doesn't work. Yeah, right? You just heard it randomly. And now it's been doing it for the last 10 years. I'll do that. But it's big.
Starting point is 00:17:19 What is it? I know bartenders who are like January is so slow for them. It's a thing, yeah. It would pone people because they're like, oh, he's an alcoholic. He can't stop drinking. At the end of the day, it's always about poning somebody. In someone's face. In his head only.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Nobody knows they're getting poned. He knows. Is that your gravestone? I get him, Steve Dave. He didn't drink in January. That's right. I poned you. Why do you think people would choose January not to drink when I find it's the month I most need the drinks?
Starting point is 00:17:48 I think probably because of like New Year's resolutions and everything. Yeah, but I try like. It's the easiest month, though. Just warm out. You could go hang. Because there's so much going on another month, though, to drink, though. In the summertime, you're up barbecues. You know, Thanksgiving, November, Christmas, December, 4th of July.
Starting point is 00:18:07 New Year's Eve. You know, you go out on a date for Valentine's Day. You're going to get a drink. I guess. But the roofie and something. No, is there any part of you that's like, Maybe I'll just stop drinking all together. You're losing weight.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You're looking better. No. You are looking better. No. I enjoy drinking. Do you? Yeah. Got to get your drink on.
Starting point is 00:18:26 How many things you want to take from this man? I mean, I guess you're right. Give him his alcohol. A lot of the drink. Got to survive somehow. I wanted to ask you guys, there was a bit of a communication breakdown in the office this week. And it turned into a bit of a. to do.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Oh, kerfuffle. And I want to see what your guys' opinions, where you guys weigh in and on who was at fault for this problem that happened. I know who's going to end up being in. I want you to be honest, though. If I'm wrong, you could say, hey, I could take it. And I'll be like, all right, I was wrong. So I told you guys about my BC box, right? Your DC box.
Starting point is 00:19:19 The VC box. The VC. Oh, yes, yes. The illegal. Yes. We don't want to use that word illegal. Right. On section.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And a lot of, a lot to chew on after the last episode. Okay. You know, you put some sobering thoughts into my head and I had to ponder. You know, I had a lot to chew on as like, you know, do I want to be. you know, morally superior to anybody, you know, any room I walk into. I would say yes. I mean, ever since I've known you. Or do I want to have free access to every sporting event on the planet?
Starting point is 00:20:01 I had to, like, what's more important to me? Right. Being more or superior in any room I walk into or being more. What's Mary Tyler Moore for hours a day? Or have this great box. And I decided, you know, I've been more or less superior for so many decades. It's got me nothing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I'd rather have the box. So I had get them and Tommy Lincoln put their heads together. And they have fortified my house now to, I can have the box. And I got so many messages about as many messages as you got about Princess Mitch. I got like, you're going to be in a terrorist watch list. Terrorists are going to take your identity. You know, you're going to have your savings are going to be wiped out, yada, yada, yada. So we got it situated.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It's on a. Muhammad Flanagan. You got to keep an eye on this guy. Walt Fallujah. And this took two visits to my house from Getham to do this to solidify and fortify my, I mean, I have a digital titanium shield around my house now. I don't think there's any way that any malware, as they call it, is going to be able to. And Tommy Lincoln thinks that as well. And get them.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Sure. But Tommy Lincoln does. So it took two visits. And the first visit was last week. I came into the office. I said, hey, I want you to take a bribe of me to my house and look into it. You do. I bring him back.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So this week, I sent him a text on Tuesday. And I said, hey, I need you to come by my house later today and look at something. And I said, I'll be in at 2.30. And he writes back, okay. So I get to the office I come upstairs He's not here which is not a big deal I figured he must be out or he's in the bathroom
Starting point is 00:21:54 Or he's at Wawa So I sit down I'm just to go killing time drawing or whatever And you know it starts to be like 3 315 330 and I get a text to my wife And she goes do you know that Gidim's here And I was like
Starting point is 00:22:12 Oh fuck I was like all right put him on the phone I said Give him your phone put him on your phone. I said, she goes, I can't. He's sleeping in the,
Starting point is 00:22:20 in his car, in the driveway. Pull up my wife's text, please. He's in his car. Do you know, Gidim is at our house? No,
Starting point is 00:22:39 put him on the phone. He's in his car. Tell him to come in and let him use your phone. He is sleeping. I'll leave now. What the fuck is he doing? sleep.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I don't know why he's there. I said I'd be in at 2.30 to pick him up. So then I... So I left and I get to my house. Now, it's fucking minus zero outside. His car's not on. He's just in a cold car sleeping for over an hour. I pull up, he's still sleeping.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And it's that kind of sleep where your mouth is wide open. Like, you know, you look like you could be dead as well as this. So you could hear property value dropping all over the neighborhood as people. And all I do is I just walk by and I just go I just hit the windshield and walk in He's like what the fuck is he doing So tell them Which is funny because from his perspective
Starting point is 00:23:26 He was there to do you a favor and waited an hour around for you Yes Why the fuck did he knock on the door? Why did he just say oh his car's not here Oh well I'm going to roll over and go to sleep It's an unusual decision Yeah Yeah I could see from your text here
Starting point is 00:23:41 Where his confusion comes from So you think I'm at fault here. My wife thinks I'm at fault. I think this is, you wrote, I need you to come over my house later. Get him right to when. You say I'll be in around 2.30. If I read that, I could easily see he thought you meant you'll be at your house at 2.30. But the week prior, I picked him up, though.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's two weeks prior. Yeah. No, it wasn't. It was only one week. I'm just saying there's room for the mistake here. I think in a way. But the second he gets there. The other thing was, the other thing was he had jury duty this past week.
Starting point is 00:24:13 None, you know, I told you that on Friday at jury duty Monday. Yeah. I texted you on Tuesday. And the entire state shut down on Monday. So, so anyone would think that everything that was happening Monday wouldn't then happen on Tuesday. No. The government doesn't work like that. Then what was supposed to happen on Tuesday?
Starting point is 00:24:27 It gets pushed to Wednesday? Well, jury duty is for the week. Okay. All right. Maybe sure, sure. So I thought he got. I never mentioned jury duty to you in the text. Did I?
Starting point is 00:24:37 No, no. You know it before you had mentioned it. On Friday. Yes. Yeah. And a couple days before. So I thought you got out at 1 o'clock, because at 1 o'clock, though, like, okay, we're not pulling any more juries today. Everyone's free to go.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Sure. And then by the time he got back home, it would be 2.30. So I got to his house at 2.30, 21. And I said, okay, I'm just going to sit here until he pulls up. So far, I get where he's coming. There's three cars in the driveway, though. I'm one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay. So he knows someone's home. All of that, it's just like, why didn't you just text him and be like, I'm here? Yes. Because I thought he's going to pull up and I don't want to text him while he's driving. That's where things start to fall apart because, because, like, What are you talking about? Because I thought he's going to be here in like a minute or two, so I just was sitting there and then I got tired and I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You literally fell asleep instantly, instantly at the rally five minutes. That's instantly in most people's definition. I'm tired. Yeah, in the space of an hour, five minutes is instantly. I'm recovering. I'm building bone. I'm rebuilding muscle. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You fuck it. Trying to garner sympathy. I'm not. It's what's happening. Yeah. I mean, look, the real issue here is the falling asleep because once he falls asleep, he's not really responsible for what happens while he's asleep. Like, he was asleep.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know why he didn't text you when he got there is my question. Because I thought he was going to be like right behind me. Did you know you were going to go to sleep? Were you like, let me take a nap? No, no. I was just sitting there and it just slowly happened. Yeah. Oh, so you're like a cat, like on a heated floor.
Starting point is 00:26:02 But the, I'll be in around 2.30 would leave me to believe, like, you're not like, I'll be in, like, I'll be in like my house. Like, I would be in. I'll be home at 230. Right. Is the big difference, you say, I need you to come over my house. Yeah, the location is stated in the first sentence. But I'll be in around 230 is not I'll be home at 230. I'll be in at 230.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like if you had wrote this, I'll pick you up around 230. Did you do an AI version of a correct text? Yes. Okay. Because this is what I was thinking about all night long. Okay. Yeah, I could see. Who is that fault here from?
Starting point is 00:26:41 That's going to be confusion. I don't think there's any fault to be blamed until Gennem gets to the house and doesn't text you, to be honest. Like I said, I thought he'd be a long. Why not just clarify before, though? Why not just get make certain? Like, I'm doing what I should be doing. Why not just get clarification? I thought I was.
Starting point is 00:27:05 No, you're assuming all this shit. I asked when. I'm assuming you're at jury duty. I'm assuming you get out at one. I'm assuming that. I've been a jury. I know what the kind of the schedule is like in jury days. But you don't even know if I got called in, though.
Starting point is 00:27:17 The real shocking thing is that this is blown up to this level. Who's that fault thing? I mean, first of all, did confusion like this happen between you and Mike Zapsack back in the day? Because if it did, I can see why you guys are so mad at each other. No, I'll give Mike this much. He would not at least ask for more details. He would be like, hey, just to be certain, boss. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Am I coming to you? your house, are you coming here? He's very good at clarification. That would be, I think, the normal response to somebody who has any questions. I drew into your house multiple times. You told me to come to your house and I've come to your house. Who's that ball, I hear me? I think based on the last interaction where you took it from here. Yes. Which was weeks ago. I just after I got out of rehab. Two weeks ago. It was a prior week to this sleeping incident. No, it was two weeks earlier. No, it wasn't. Yeah, because you recorded last week and you got the VC box a week before that, which is when I came over and set up.
Starting point is 00:28:18 All right. Maybe it was two weeks ago. Vindication. I mean, yeah, I know we're not the same person. When I got there, I would have been like, I'm here. Would you go to sleep? I wouldn't just automatically fall asleep without a text. But why not even not going to do?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Or not going to do. Like, I saw your daughter was there and your wife was there. And I'm like, I don't want to like have them have to entertain me. like I don't know if they can like just sit me in a room and there'll be okay with that or that's why I said well put him on the phone I assume that when she said he's at our house that you're in the house I was like put him on the phone you're assuming see yeah well I again I would assume that a normal person would knock on the door not just roll over and go to sleep yeah I think also like I think like I think I think I feel like the whole like I'll be in you should have clarified as opposed to just assuming because I would think like I'll be in is the office I'll be home is at home. Yes. That's what I would assume. I know we're all assuming stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's what I would assume. And if I wasn't sure, I would definitely text. I think it's safe to say there was some shared miscommunication. And, like, no one's really at fault at fault. Like, I'm not blaming him for, like, that I sat there for an hour. And ultimately, at the end of it, he did, he did do what you needed. And then came back a second time. Well, he's getting paid to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh, come on. He's not doing the kindness of his heart. I forgot that part. Okay. Sometimes. Ropping papers down. Oh, all right. Yeah, the wrapping papers down.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Nice. Yeah. Yeah, he is getting paid to do that. I forget about that. It seems like kind of like it was just miscommunication. I know it was miscommunication. I'm not saying it was. Sleeping in the driveways is an odd choice.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, it is really weird. It is odd. I get him. Lately, I've been very. tired because of the The bone's growing. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know. I had, um...
Starting point is 00:30:19 Been taking a lot of protein. Yeah, you bring it out every time I see you. The way of protein. I'm cake. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Give you the, uh, give you the, uh, gil for Walt. Ming for Walt, Brian. Yeah, for you.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Okay. Frank also weighed in and said that Ginn was at fault. Because you, I know you've been, I know you've been, I know you've been chaffing this around before you're going to hear. The only person that I decided with you is my wife. Because she wants things from you to like, she wants you to work on her school projects that she needs. No, because you know what is, I think we think alike. I think your wife would think alike on certain things.
Starting point is 00:30:56 She definitely is. Those are fighting words, man. She definitely has fallen under the. And we've dealt with you for years. The guise of that you are a genius. I cannot stop hearing this. Have you asked get him? Have you mentioned this to get him?
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know, you're not as smart as get him. And I should say. He did not clue into his wife the danger that he was in because of this B.C. box, which if I had a spinner sitting and talking to her, she would have known about. And then I think it would have been in more trouble. What, if you had told her that terrorists can speak? Like all your concerns, yes. No, yeah. We don't need to scare her too. Well, see, then I was good by sitting outside and not talking to her. Because I only tell her $5 boot stories and Kane stories for so long. I disagree with that. Well, what did you do when three o'clock hit? Did you text him? No, because I knew he wouldn't answer the phone. I just got in my car.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And when my wife told me he's fucking sleeping in the driveway, I got in my car and I drove back. And when I walked by, I just fucking bang on the window, I walked in my house. And it took him like 10 minutes to shuffle in from the driveway. Oh, hey, Walt. What are you doing here? Where are you been?
Starting point is 00:32:09 Cartoon birds. alofting on his fingers. Yeah. Wow. And she came home today, my wife, and was like, can you do me a favor? Can you ask get him to see if he can somehow solve this problem I have, like putting together this craft that she found online? And I'm just like, that's why she signed with you because she has a whole bunch of things that she wants to bounce off you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But we did solve his problem. So if nobody needs to send him to email. email me anymore. Our post on Reddit or. Yeah. But you've lost your. I've lost the upper hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm okay with that, though. What is it? It hasn't really done me any good. Yeah. You've had. I lord it above everybody as long as I could. So this is all, so you can pull up a Golden State versus Utah jazz game, like whatever you want. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Even though I'll never watch a basketball game. Right. I got it. You can. You can. You can. You can. How does it work?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Does it have like a controller? They go from channel to channel. You can even get a little keyboard for it. I was going to get him the keyboard. He's like, I'm happy just typing away with the little mouse control. Like selecting each letter. Yeah, we were looking through yesterday. It's a house MD channel.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It just plays house 24 hours a day. You ever used for that? I would. Yeah. Okay. It's one of those shows I used to like be on my day off putting on and just, you know, you leave it on. And then you just go and do what you got to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I never saw it, but he was a druggie, right? He wasn't an addict to Vicodin. He needed Vicodin because he had a severe muscle pain. The character or the actor? The character. Did he die at the end of that series? It's a spoiler. It's a spoiler.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It shows 25 years. Just not to shake your head. Okay. Very sweet. Spoiler alert. Did you see Wonder Man? I haven't on my new VC box. I checked last night to say it and it's all eight episodes.
Starting point is 00:34:09 episodes are there. Okay, great. Did you like it? I didn't watch it. I saw the first episode. I really liked it. I've heard really good things about it. Yeah, first episode was solid.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I have heard that it takes several turns throughout it, but what I saw in that first episode was good. Yeah. Ben Kingsley was awesome, man. What was it? Ben Kingsley. Wasn't he in Iron Man? Yeah, he's playing that character.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Same character. He's back. Yeah, it's really funny. And every once in a while, people are like, aren't you a terrorist? And he's like, no. It's good. So, so far so good. That's great.
Starting point is 00:34:39 and the new Samaramy movie. He sent help? He directed? Directed it. I saw yesterday I went. Oh, he saw it? Sam Rameh. He's always first day filmmaker for me, man.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, not going to be my favorite. Favorite one ever, but it's Sam Ramey. Bruce Campbell's in there somewhere. The car's in there somewhere. Like, it's great, man. Maybe that's responsible for why I feel a good mood today. Because Sam Ramee and Ming Chen all on the same day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Just Sam Ramee now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm again mentioned the same breath as a horror, a cinematic genius. Yeah, well, you are. You deserve it, buddy. Is the pinball game in the movie?
Starting point is 00:35:17 No, no. It's not that type of movie. Mostly takes place on an island. Oh, okay. That's that movie? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Rachel McAdams.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. You saw it or are going to see it? I saw it. I saw it. Was it good? It's good. Yeah. That trailer is so creative, I thought.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I haven't seen a trailer like that in a while. It felt like a felt like an exploitation movie almost. It is not what it seems to be. Like it takes turns in it that you don't see coming, you know. And Rachel McGrathens. It's so funny when they take gorgeous women, try and make them look ugly. It's like, Michelle Pfeiffer and Batman Returns where you're like, you're fucking kidding me. She looks perfect.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Pink covered overalls. But it's great. It's great. And it's Sam Ramey. So it's got the demon shots through the woods and the wacky stuff. mention in the trailer that it was a Sam Ramey movie. I don't know why they wouldn't. That's what got me there.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah, it's weird, yeah. Yeah. But I remember seeing the trailer and being like, oh, that looks pretty cool. Yeah, I just want to encourage people to go because I just want him to get work forever. I mean, why wouldn't he's a legend? But I wanted to make movies forever. Sam Ramey, send help.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Send help. All right. Go see it. We'll check it out. Yeah. Be nice to get out of the house. That's a movie. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I was like, no one in the theater but me. Yeah. A theater totally alone. That's a rarity, but it's fun when it happens. And it's the theater where you could order food and they bring it to you. So I was just looking ordering food for all the time. Pressing that button. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It's phenomenal. More cheese fries, please. That's awesome. I loved it. I'm going to watch it tonight in my VC box. No, come on, man. If you do that, tell me. Because I'll buy a ticket.
Starting point is 00:36:59 No, no. I have not taken advantage of the illegal. aspects of like, you know, like camcorded movies. Wait, that's on there. You can get first run movies? Yeah. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 If you want to buy one, he's going to start selling them. You're seeing someone else's morals slip away. Oh, come on. This fucking bootleger? Oh, yeah. Look at that I have no morals, especially when it comes to copyrighted material. Wait, does it doesn't contribute to the Eoprachal Joker's ratings? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, I'm getting fucked. Yeah, I bootleg my own TV show. What are you talking about? Hey, did you get any fallout from being on the last episode with when you did the, when we talked about the, um, oh, the apology? No. No, no contact, nothing. Not, not from the person we were talking about, no. Have you talked to me?
Starting point is 00:37:51 No. Oh. That seems like fallout to me. No, he, usually, he's a fan. He'll, he'll call. I didn't think it was going to be fallout. You, you, Walt, were pretty sure that he was going to have some. I didn't, I didn't feel that way.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Walt wants the fallout. No. Juicy. No. He wants this good time. Why would you say? Why would I want that? Me?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, no, no fall. Yeah, no, when he's, yeah, when he's mad, he'll call immediately. Yeah. Go. All right. So this has sent help already? No. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Oh, my God. Oh, come on, man. That's not fair. I mean, it's not, I'm not, Giddham's fault. It's out there. Yeah, he didn't put it on there. No, I'm not saying it to me. I just, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's even up there. It's not shaking. You can hear the audio. The genies out of the bottle. The internet just fucking fucked everybody. Oh, man, man. He deserves respect. He deserves your money.
Starting point is 00:38:48 This is what I'm talking about, though. This is how they make her look and you're supposed to be like she's gross. And you're like, she's not in any world. Helen Keller. Helen Keller. She's a fraud. I just want to wait until the show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh, how gross. I know. You. Real down. Oh, yeah. Really let herself go. What a frump. I mean, you know, then they glow her up when she's on the beach and she obviously
Starting point is 00:39:13 looks fantastic, but this is their idea of a not a good looking woman. It's funny. Yeah, like her hair is askew. She's got some glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a big clip in her hair. A must. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Nice try. All right. Well, go pay to see. Send help. Please. Go to the theater. Do what get them does. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:39:35 What do we got here? You got Ridge Oh Ridge you say Oh that Dude Ridge I say Ridge you say
Starting point is 00:39:45 Oh is this the one of you You got one Right there baby Oh that is nice Keeps all my cards in there A little money strip Yeah they sent me a new one They only sent one huh
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah I touched you last week You said I probably sent you the link To get one And you guys never respond to it Oh that's possible Do you sell it to me
Starting point is 00:40:05 I always send it to you Yeah I thought you said in it's a hell of it. I thought you said you had an extra one you were going to bring in to replace. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I'll bring one in for you. I forgot. I'll bring it in next week.
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's a ridge. That's the Ridge Power Bank that you paid for out of your own pocket. Yes, I did. Well, we got them. I know, but I couldn't wait. It's that good product. You needed to charge up. Yeah, it's like, my devices were all dead and I'm like, what am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:40:26 I can't wait for a fucking Ridge to get here. I got to buy it. I just bought a new wallet, too. I paid for overnight shipping, too. Yeah. Well, I almost bought one of those yesterday. They're worth it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So what's the code, gentlemen? How do I get a discount? That would be T-E-S-D. Is it charged? But let's see. Nice, man. Nice segue. The wallet that I had before Ridge, I don't even remember it.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I think I had a money clip. I didn't even have a wallet. You forgot it. It was so traumatic. Yeah. I've just pushed it out of my mind. Because Ridge is unique, slim, modern design that holds up to 12 cards plus cash. This is a great wallet.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Made with premium materials like aluminum, titanium and carbon fiber. Does it come with those big bills? Or? No, those are extra. You're rocking a 50 and a fucking bunch of 20s? On the outside. Why are you rocking it on the outside? That was money that I didn't spend in Florida, so it's just to carry it around.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 That's what I was going to ask. Those digital pickpocketers. Yeah. I don't want my stuff. Who wants Stuff stolen? Losing your wallet is the worst. But with the Ridge air tag attachment, you'll always
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Starting point is 00:41:56 a 99-day risk-free trial and lifetime warranty on all their products. Wait, so you find that wallet anywhere? What's it? You can track that wall. it. I don't have a, I don't have a hair tag attachment on it. So I guess there are some.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Potentially, yeah. Yeah, like you found the iPad. You would be able to find this. Yeah, I lost my iPad. No. God, really? Yeah, on Christmas Eve, I was getting the dogs in the car and I put my iPad on the roof of my car.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I didn't bring it in. I forgot. And then later on that night, I was like, I was trying to find my iPad. And I go to track it and it says it's on, it's on Highway 35 by Wendy's. Oh, no. I'm like, oh, I must have fell out of the car. I said, because I was over at Wendy's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And I drove over there and I couldn't find it. And I gave up a get him went the next day and found it in the highway, just remnants of it as it was just ripped to shreds. Oh, yeah, rip, run over. That's nice. Wait, but the find by the tracker was still working? No. Last known location. Yeah, last known location.
Starting point is 00:42:52 But you made it and play Frogger through Highway 35. It was on Christmas morning he did it, so there was no traffic. Yeah, I told them, I was like, you know what? Before you go to your dad to celebrate Christmas, see if you can find my destroyed iPad. jump around in the highway. Did you make him pick up all the pieces? Yeah, he picked up all the pieces.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I brought it to a place to repair. So we had the logic board. Sure. So what does that mean? So where the memory chips are. No, no, but what does it mean that you have it?
Starting point is 00:43:20 That he, if it's possible to recover it, then that's the best way to have, have a recovered. Which is really fucked up is that I don't care about anything on the iPad other than my artwork because it didn't, none of my art went to the cloud since April. And I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So I lost so many months of work. Yeah, so that's why I was so bummed out. And I brought it to a repair shop in Lindcroft and they said a minimum of two grand. Holy shit. Fuck it. Yeah. But they can get it off. They could.
Starting point is 00:43:50 There's no guarantee, but the piece that get them found was not in bad shape. They said it's possible that, yeah, yeah, we could absolutely take this little chip out and put it in a new iPad. But it's intense of work. And it's possible that it's. all the files could be there. Oh, shit. But two grand. Two grand, though.
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's not even certain that two grand would even cover it. It might even be more than two grand. So I was like, I had to let that go. He did tell me to throw the other pieces out that get him found because it was poisonous, right? Lithium. Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to figure out why my car was smelling like strawberries.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And it was because it was because of the batteries. It was toxic. Made him go to sleep. Toxic fumes. Mmm, strawberries. Just licking the fucking debris. Look in the air. Well, I thought it was like I had one of those little air fresheners in the can and I thought it popped open.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But then I was like, do lithium batteries smell like strawberries? And like, yes, you should get rid of it right away. But I'm surprised that that has the ability to be tracked, though. Well, I think you have to have some sort of attachment for it. One doesn't have the attachment. Why didn't you get the attachment? I don't know. They sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I didn't have the choice. You know what the air tank looks like, right? It's a little button. Looks like a little button. You just slide it in there. Oh, no. So wait, how much effort did you put into looking for it when you went on the highway? Oh, hours.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Hour? Yeah, because it was Christmas Eve. So there was no traffic. And I walked up and down the highway. Oh, shit. And I, on both sides. How did he find it so fast? He looked.
Starting point is 00:45:31 He went in the daytime, though. Oh, are you? You went in a flashlight? Yeah, I didn't even have a flashlight. Well, the first thing I found was the outer casing. And so then I walked backwards from there and about 100 feet away, I found the... Oh my God, that really is torn up. That's...
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's folded on itself. But it stayed on my roof for so long, though. I went to so many places before I went to the windies. I think because of the magnets that were in the case. Oh, yes. Like if I had just known it was up there when I got out of two different spots before then, I could have saved it. But there's the chips and the processor and everything. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Wow. And then like a day or two later is when it snowed again and they plowed and salted everything, which would have destroyed it all. Shit. Did you buy a new one yet? Yeah. Nice. That's a good thing. But it was such a bummer, though, when all my files finally.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah. Like, I guess what's it called when it mirrors it? The cloud. It went up to the cloud. Everything. Backed up. It became my old iPad, my new iPad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 But then I was like, well, wait a minute. There's nothing on here since April. That was like devastating though. I remember that happened to me last year on my motorcycle. My phone fell off and I don't back up to the cloud and I lost all your photos. All of Benjamin's last month I missed and Boris's first fucking year I missed. How come you don't back up to the cloud? You intentionally don't?
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah, I just don't. You don't trust it? Not that I don't trust it, but I guess I don't trust it. I don't know. Mine was just pure like ignorance. I guess I don't know why it didn't do it. Obviously I would have, but I have no idea why since April till December it didn't anything I did didn't upload into the cloud.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I think it's all a scam. I think a backup and not they can get on to you. If somebody wants to get on your phone from Apple, they're going to be able to do it. Not anymore, not at my place. Yeah. Not since getting him and Tommy. Electronic fortress.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He's got firewalls. The iron dome. Fucking they call my house. IP spoofing. VPNs everywhere. Lasers. I got a VPN. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:30 We'll find a VPN at his house. Wow. You should see the setup. Never thought I'd see the day. Yeah. I can take down a small country. I see that. Just so you can watch, like, Mary Tyler.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Launched a nukes. So he can watch a series he already has on DVD. Sure. Are you still computer savvy or are those days long gone? Like, technology is surpassed. I passed him by a long ago. Yeah. It's too tough, right?
Starting point is 00:47:53 I mean. Well, why don't let him answer? Hold on. Before you answer, me, before you answer. For limited time. That's a young man's. All right, yeah, keep going. Our listeners got 10% off at Ridge.
Starting point is 00:48:05 We're still on Ridge. By using COTSD at checkout, just had to Ridge.com and use CODSD, and you're all set. After your purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. Please support the show and tell them that we sent you. All right, Ming. But the very fact I didn't ask him one question about my VC box tells you everything about how I think. His current knowledge of shit is. Because his relatives probably put it together.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, right. Yeah, I can get whatever I need to whenever I don't need a VC box. No, no. I know, but are you up to date on all the tricks? No. When was the last website you made? It's, oh, it's been years. Yeah, I stopped out.
Starting point is 00:48:39 But you could do it. I could, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah, but it would look like fucking, you know, 16 bit and shit. No. Dancing, baby, Jesus. Looks like when Walter White needed, like, money. Yeah, the Walter Jr., like, donation.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's not the sole horse that says under construction. James Allen Bobber at the top for some reason dancing around I don't know how to make it without it I can do whatever I need to Oh come on It's like comics
Starting point is 00:49:14 You know I don't know anything that's going on In the comic world So you don't know anything that's going on in a tech world Right Because you went into a different field I did Yeah Which I'm sure we have a game about Comic-Con
Starting point is 00:49:25 Oh yeah We've got a game Yeah I got a game All right I love that I love a good game Yeah I'm not that You're not sad.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Do you feel like it's too much information to now absorb? It's a lot. Yeah. Now you're like it's too daunting to go to be the guy that knows everything about. It's a lot. Yes. Yeah. But isn't it all templates now? Wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah. Yeah. It's all in a box now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just run it through AI. You're good.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah, you can do anything, though. Do you think, like, people with your skill set now would be our AI is just going to fuck them? Like, is that what's going on? More or less. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you had the good days.
Starting point is 00:50:04 You caught the salary days. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was the perfect time to, like, you know, I think he could pluck from obscurity to be Kevin Smith's tech guy. Fuck, yeah. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here. I think AI would help him more than it would someone who doesn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah? Because at least he can cobble something together if the AI goes down or messes up. He, like, he can know where to go back and fix and see what's wrong versus someone who has no knowledge. He's got a bedrock of knowledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, wait a minute. That tag shouldn't be there. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. Yeah, it's all prompts now. Just put in a prompt and it does whatever you want. It's horrible sometimes, though. It's like you ask it to do something. It's like, oh, no, that goes against our guidelines. We can't do it. What are the guidelines?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Because like every time you go anywhere, it's like here's fucking Rocky Balba walking next to Sylvester Stallone. And you're like, how are they using his name? You can make your own AI if you want to. You just need a powerful enough computer and you load certain, libraries into it and you can make it and not have the guidelines. But commercially available sites have the guidelines in so they're
Starting point is 00:51:09 not getting nailed for copyright infringement and stuff. Wait, so anybody could create their own? Yes. Oh, my God. So the genie's out of the bottle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. But, you know, like, you know, somebody somebody's going to come along and put the genie back in the
Starting point is 00:51:25 bottle though. Some fucking person's, he hasn't been born yet. I'm calling it right now. Okay. There will be a genie bottle stuffer. But what does that mean? What do you think that means? What does that look like?
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's going to be a fucking cold day in hell, you know, before you're not able to do any of the shit anymore once that person is born and figures out how to put the genie back in the bottle. And he, what, just destroys everybody's ability to use this stuff? Yeah. Probably be probably real traumatic. That's okay. It's got to be done. But we'll be dead. No, well, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He has been born yet. It doesn't mean he can't be born tomorrow. Sure, but he's got to get to at least what, what age before he's doing all that stuff. Probably going to be a savant, maybe like 12. Oh, okay. All right. What is this? I was trying to create a image of a post office that was entirely populated by Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And ChatGPT refused to do it because they're like, oh, it goes against our guidelines. So then I went to like Google Gemini and I totally did it. Jimmy the Hair guy texted me at six this morning. I was like, oh man, it must be something important. Yeah. He too was like, hey, man, did you hear that? Or did you know that Ian McShane and Marilynnener are seen together in American Gods, a show that was on years ago?
Starting point is 00:52:45 I was like, I think he's working overnights now. Oh, is that it? Yeah, yeah. Because I'm like, you couldn't tell me this at 10 in the morning? You got to tell me at 6? Well, he did an hour-long Q&A at work the other day. Oh, yeah? Yeah, on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:52:57 With himself? No, like, people were asking him questions that he was answering him live. And I'm like, so that's why I was like, this is why the mail was so slow because it's an entire... And you were sleeping in my driveway at work, so it's not, you guys aren't that much different. Yeah. Yeah, and you're all making these. His AI, Jimmy the Hair Guy pictures. Isn't he afraid to, like, isn't that?
Starting point is 00:53:16 He's a government employee, no. Really? Yeah. He's classified, too, as having issues. He's got a special card he gets the show, like, whenever they yell at him and, like, they have to stop. Oh, he's got an excuse. Yeah. Get out of Joe Freak.
Starting point is 00:53:28 He's got a guy. He's got a world turn into. What is going on? He's got a gig, shit. I believe it. I totally believe you. He has a card, like, he just shows it you can't be mean to him. I wish I thought that as a kid.
Starting point is 00:53:40 My parents, every time Edgar's coming at me, like, pull the card. You fall over to slap that card right out. Yeah, oh, yeah. Proceeding to fucking beat you into a wall. Yep. Yeah, not the government. I think that car's going to save your ass, boy.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Eat the card. Eat it. Give me that card. Oh, man. An anti-bullying card. Wow. But also, what questions are I asking? The bosses can't, like, be...
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, that's what I mean. What questions were they asking, Jimmy? Oh, I had no, I couldn't... No, no. What's his favorite juggalo album? Fan questions. I think we should ask him if we could air this, because I think someone of the government's going to be like...
Starting point is 00:54:18 Nobody knows where he works. This guy just said that he's doing a fucking Jimmy populated overnight thing at the post office. Nobody knows what post office he's at, or if it's in New Jersey. It might not even be USPS. It could be. FedEx or could be UPS. I think everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah, it works. So you think that the USPS is listening to tell him, Steve Dave? The Postmaster General. And they're going to be able to find out there watching the Jericho pot. And they're going to know Jimmy the Hare guy's real name is? No, but you've got fucking dickheads out there. You got like fucking people
Starting point is 00:54:48 out there sharpening their knives. Like anybody could be like, fuck Jimmy. And call the post office and be like, you know your employee's doing this on fucking my tax time. They're going after me more than they're going after him. Do they even know what his real name is? The the listener base. I know it's Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Jimmy's work at the post office? If he even works at the post office? Hey, I'm just looking out for Jimmy, man. Which is nice. Thank you so much, Q. I think that card that he has is enough.
Starting point is 00:55:17 He's fucking bulletproof. I mean, I guess he could say it was his lunch hour. Yeah, every's on break. I think you're playing with fire, man, to publicly tell the government. He's been putting himself on YouTube. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It's like, hold on, all right, does he have any distinguishing characteristics? Like, well, he's got a juggler tattoos. He's got a Ming Chen, Mike Zapsic, tramp stamp. Like, oh, wait. You raise your shirt. No, not him. You raise your shirt. No, not him.
Starting point is 00:55:43 He's on video. They don't need to do that. They just got a screen cap and be like, here he is. Is the video still up or did he delete it at least? I'm sure it's still up. Hopefully he deleted it. I'm worried about that. Wait, can you see mail behind him being sorted
Starting point is 00:55:57 packages? We live in a police state. And, you know, he's... Fight the power. There's no fight in the power. There's no power. That's how Jimmy fights the power. There's no power at all.
Starting point is 00:56:12 We've, we've, everybody who's afraid of the government turning into Big Brother. We've turned into Big Brother and fucking report on each other 24 hours a day. We're big brother. That's a good point. Yeah. We're the fucking police state. We never needed the government to come in and fuck us. All you need is your fucking Karen next door.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I truly believe he probably was on his lunch break when he posted this. Okay. His lunch break is a quarter to one in the morning. Well, if he works overnight. It's true. It might be. Yeah, might be. This goes out for 55 minutes?
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yes. He has an hour break. All right. Come on. All right. He came in under it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 We're going to get Jimmy on next week. Oh, yeah? The next TSD to talk about it. I like that. Next week. Oh, the week after that, I'm not here. I'm away for like 10 days. Next week I am around and then the week after that.
Starting point is 00:57:03 What's your opinion of Mike? Uh-oh. Oh, no. Get some volume on this. Yeah, let's hear what he has to say. Whoa, there are no captions on this? No, let him go watch the video. Yeah. Jimmy the Hair guy, full Q&A if you need to search for this.
Starting point is 00:57:17 It's that important. What's his name? T-E-S-S-S-K-S-E-S- Yeah. I think that's who did the the Q&A. All right. Five subscribers, wow. Jimmy's reaching the world.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Look at that influencer. He'll be a Q West. 330 students to use. But if he does, if TSD. 37? What? Yeah, exactly. If TSD does come back to vitamin E.S. this episode.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. There's no no jobs on the IJ set that you can't just shovel his way. No, now for a guy who's a card that fucking whips it out any time you pissed at him. Oh. That's why we've had the crew all these years. We hired people back when they fucking, you know, we're real people and they fucking talk to without breaking down and crying.
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Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah, I need a website quick. I needed to look good with Squarespace. The Chen Dynasty. Okay. Well, Squarespace decided to give me about eight pages of copy, so this is going to take a second. I'm not going to read it all, obviously. I'm just going to skim through it. Required within the first 30 seconds, this podcast is sponsored and brought to you by Squarespace. And then in my own words, I'm supposed to say Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out or scaling your business.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand, and get paid all in one place. They fucking really expect me to put that in my own words. Yes. Yeah. You, Ryan Johnson. That's not going to happen. Okay, this is where I discussed the product, my own personal story and experience with it, which I don't have it. Ming just did that for you.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Ming did that for us. You're being very hostile. To our sponsor, this is where we... This is... Don't lose it, though. Like, when they don't just truncate it and make it like an easy to read, like, so I can get the information that they want out there. Is this the first time you look at the ad, though? It's just like when you look at, when you get the ad, it's just the first...
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah, you probably should look at it the night before. Well, you know, I should. And then truncate it yourself. Yeah, I should. Well, you know, Mary Beth should. She's a fucking charge of that shit, not me. Well, somebody should jump in it. I'm here to read, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I'm going to go home and yell at her. She better not pull out a card on me. That's a lot of work. A car is the very fast card. I don't want her to know of the existence of those cards. Can you get one of those cards illegally on the Internet? It's on the black web. I mean, the dark web.
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Starting point is 01:02:41 I want to make a website for the Ming Chen butterfly experience, which is, yes, my favorite. We're doing it down at Q. West with Ming. Everybody's getting entrance to the Butterfly. Conservatory where Ming Chen will be performing. Yes. Inside the butterfly conservator.
Starting point is 01:02:58 As Madam Butterfly? As Ming Chen, the butterfly. Yes. I'll be cosplaying. He's going to look like Madam Butterer. He's going to look like a girl. Yeah, he's going to look like a girl for sure. No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:08 He's going to be the manliest butterfly. I'm excited about it. Will it be a butterfly crime scene? No, no. There's going to be nothing but the enjoying the nature around you and Ming Chen and his his performance. Yeah, this is great. Big fan of the,
Starting point is 01:03:22 Key West Butterfly Conservatory. It was one of the last place I visited before I left. Did you know that it's gorgeous? There are no male or female butterflies? I didn't know that. There was a... They're sexless. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They're like Jamie Lee Curtis. Well, they only live like a week or something like that, right? Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah. Hermaphradates. Okay. I didn't know that. Why do you know that?
Starting point is 01:03:45 I'm lying. I have no. Oh. How do they reproduce? Like, hey, if kid of kids, it and sound like a genius. Look how easy it is. His husband calls you on it?
Starting point is 01:03:57 Ming will be going through a course with the butterfly conservatory to teach him a little bit to inform his performance a little bit more. Yes, you'll be leaving a little smarter, a little more knowledgeable about butterflies. Yeah. It's a whole experience. It's going to be the Saturday morning. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be great, buddy.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I can't wait. It's actually the thing I'm looking forward to the most. None of the comics. None of the activities. I can't wait to see you in the butterfly conservatory doing your thing, man. After party at whatever, less than Kevin's or whatever that place is. No. Irish Kevin's Irish Kevin.
Starting point is 01:04:33 The and you were at a bar, we were a little tuned up. And it just came out. And it was like a light went off and we were like, holy fuck the Lange! Experience! Yeah, exactly. Awesome. I'm back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. All right. So what do you want to do? We got two more spots. Do you want to do the game, then the spots? It's up to you. You make the call.
Starting point is 01:04:55 We can knock them out and knock out the spots and we can just focus on the game. All right. Okay. All right. Ming, Blue Chu. Oh, yeah. You know what time it is, Ming. Oh, yeah.
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Starting point is 01:06:08 They get turned on? Yeah. I'm not sure the exact reaction, but. Is that what happens? If when blood flows there, does it turn it on? Start to swell? I don't know. I'll give one the Mary Beth.
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Starting point is 01:08:38 It feels good to be right. Price Pigs. Oh, no. Pam, what do you want now? Hello, Pam? Hello? Hello? Hey, I'm doing the podcast. We can't talk right now.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Okay. Call me later. Maybe. All right. Okay. Bye, Pam. All right. Camio.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Remember she told you that she loved you that timing? Yeah. That was weird. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was cool, though. It's like, wow. I think that's sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Yeah. It was very random. She never tells me. Yeah, never. Not once ever. Still waiting for it after 58 years. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:11 So now we can play the game. Now we can get to the fun stuff. So I came up with this game called, what's it called here? It's called Khan stories or convention stories. Oh, true or false? Yeah, I'm going to read a headline and you guys can ask Ming one question each. Are they all Ming related? It's all about the con stories.
Starting point is 01:09:37 The crazy wild life. The tourist world of Comic-Con. I love it. It could be true or it could be false. Very simple. And Ming is going to try to bluff you though. Oh, okay. Khan story or convention story number one.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Ming had to share a bed with Michael Zapsic after missing a flight. Sword to tell. Unthinkable. Had to share a bed after missing a flight. You could ask him about it. Can ask one question? Crazy story. What happened that you had to share a bed?
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's not missing the flight. Right. But they... Well, we got one room with two double beds. It was me, Mike, and Rob Bruce. And I wasn't going to share a bed with Rob Bruce. So I picked the lesser two evils. Share the bed with Mike's absente.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Did you each keep one foot on the floor? That's the rule. Not like the, was it a Happy Days episode? Yeah. I did not. No, I had complete frost. Both feet were on the bed? Both feet were in the bed.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Did you sleep head to toe? You dog! Not like, was it Charlie in the chocolate factory? We did not sleep in the town. Did you leave room for Jesus? I'm a small guy. There was enough room. What size bed?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Did you ask? I didn't ask my size bed. No. It was a twin. You know, your regular. You gave us some information without even asking. A twin? So, like a queen size double?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah. Whatever your standard. Right, yeah. Double bed is. Why didn't someone just sleep on the floor? A hotel room floor? We're in a tub. It wasn't really comfortable option.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And you weren't worried about the ramifications, you know, of this getting out. Like if it ever got out. I guess I never really told anybody until now. I mean, but it's a secret like that is eventually going to come out, though. Yeah, no one really mentioned it. It was kind of a until now. Mike didn't swear you to secrecy? No.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Wow. Surprised. I mean, it's not, is it, did he tell his wife? I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I could have, uh, did you tell your wife? No. Oh. It's weird secret to keep. It is weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I mean, why would you? First thing I tell Mary about you, like, you'll believe this shit. Why would you mention, I don't know. Why would you mention it? To your wife? Yeah. You know, honey, just so you know, I slept with another person while I was at the con. I'm not giving any more information than that. You don't think that's something she'd want to know?
Starting point is 01:12:23 No. Neil, Make sure you get some tests before you were tested. STD test? Sure. Whether jokes made? Was it like Teehee, little fun jokes made while you tries to try to get to sleep? No, I think we just went to bed.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Did I sleep with clothes on? I had, I had clothes on. Layers or just one? Not layers. Shorts? No, I'm just shirt and pants. Socks. I think I took my socks off.
Starting point is 01:12:51 That's the first step to footsey. I remember this is going back a long time. Me, Q, Darren, and Sal went down to Atlantic City. And we got a room with two double beds. And me and Q did the right thing. We slept on the floor like men. Right next to each other. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So close that we're in the bed, we wouldn't have been as close. Yeah. No, I remember we should have room in San Diego. I don't know if you remember. There's me, you and two. His mind was blown. Yeah. I can't believe this.
Starting point is 01:13:21 You're on the floor. Do you remember that, Q? What? Me, you and Ming shared a room in San Diego at the San Diego Con. I don't remember that. You don't remember it because Ming was never in the fucking room. Oh, okay. He never came back to the room.
Starting point is 01:13:33 It was that bigger room, right? Yeah, it was a big room. But still, it was a room with two double beds. I got there late. And I'm like, well, who's bed am I flipping in? They're like, fuck you, go get the cot. Call down, call down, dial zero on the phone and get the cot. And they brought up.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I mean, as I recall, it was the late 90s. That's the only fucking response to get the fucking caught back then. We weren't playing around. Yeah. But as you see, I'm not, you know, I'm pretty comfortable. Well, you're, it's the 2000s, you know. I mean, people in society has evolved that now you and Mike can sleep in a bed together and not. Not the society.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I live in a lot. Not on this show. Eyebrows still getting raised around these points. Yeah, but it's either him or Ruppers. or a dirty airport hotel floor. Wow, no couch. No, no couch. Wasn't that fancy.
Starting point is 01:14:27 So it wasn't the airline's fault. It was your fault. The flight was missed. It was our fault, yes. What do you think, is that true or false? I believe that it could be true because I do think Bing would be like, I don't get a shit. I just want to sleep. So I think it's true.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And I could also see Mike being the same way. I don't know if they roll like we roll where everything is an opportunity for an assassination of some sort. There's no way, though, that it wouldn't be something we've heard by now. It would be the stuff of legend, though. Yeah. I just love you your head like we're sword fighting already in bed and shit. Well, when did this happen? When did this happen?
Starting point is 01:15:12 2013, I would say. Oh, wow. So, yeah. You're a while ago. Yeah, we would have heard about this. You're right. Back then especially. Like what if in the middle of the night, you know, he got, he had like a dream or something and didn't realize it was.
Starting point is 01:15:25 What dream? Ming's it a cocoon. You know, he thought he was back home. He thought you were Julia and it happens. It goes in. Just a middle, but it goes in. Or you wake up fully. It's in.
Starting point is 01:15:41 You realize it's in. And then you guys like, then you're like, fuck, man. Someone should have slept on the floor. Yeah. I mean, now it's too late. We're both gay. Yeah. Yeah, this sealed it.
Starting point is 01:15:53 How are we going to tell our wives? Which I didn't. I still say it's true. True. Brian. I'm going to lean towards false because like you, I think that we would have heard this story by now because it's a funny story. And, you know, like Ming, it just rolls off the gay jokes and stuff. So he wouldn't care about that.
Starting point is 01:16:16 But it's the stuff of sitcom. legend. Like how many sitcoms has this happened where two guys have to sleep in a bed? And, you know, and it's like, history has shown us how funny that is and how much material could be mined from that. These two guys have never mentioned it once, have never used it
Starting point is 01:16:32 to their advantage, have never gone and told this story. Yeah, because they were pot and back then. And mine had sold the story on their podcast. It's all you guys. What are you fucking know? Oh, yeah, and you do? You're calling us like a painter. No, no advantage. You've heard that episode. implicating us as haters. You ain't listened either, bro. I'm just saying it could have been told on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Getham, what do you think? True or false? I mean, get him, we immediately told our story about sleeping together in Florida. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't keep that a secret. You wanted to fucking use it to our advantage. I'm going to say false. False.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Okay. True Q, true bri? False bri. False bri. False bri. Okay. Ming Chen, reveal if it's true or false. Uh, this story is true.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Oh my God. So that happened, uh, after LA Comic-Con, uh, we missed the flights of AMC invited us out to a fancy dinner and missed our flights home that night. We, we opted to take fancy dinner instead of flying home. And there's only one hotel room available. Uh, we, we were cheap. We opted to get one hotel room. Oh, the price. How much was the price of your masculinity?
Starting point is 01:17:48 I mean, it was. And that was back. the days of guarantees. You could have afforded a fucking hotel room. Yeah, yeah, we did pretty well that week. Yeah. And we probably couldn't. We'd be in cheap though. But you didn't care. No. How much, like, did you have to talk him into doing it? Like, how much like canoe was already like, summoning him over. According to you guys, it took no convincing. Well, did it take any convincing? No. None. No. You guys immediately just hopped into bed immediately. You were like, Rob, you got the bed. I think he was over here. Turn out the lights.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Don't listen. Yeah. We're going to get a room. But it's only 6 o'clock, guys. We're going to bed now. I was pretty much a given that, uh... Let's go on. I'm so tired.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Mike is wide-eyed. Fucking like a wild man. Let's go to bed now. We don't want to miss our flights tomorrow morning. We got to get up early, Rob. The sun's still up. All the shades. No, we're on West Coast time.
Starting point is 01:18:46 East Coast is darker. All right. Let's go to bed. It's real late at home, guys. It's 9 o'clock somewhere. I'm not surprised that it happened on the West Coast, you guys sharing a bed. Was this hotel in San Francisco? L.A.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So close enough. Close enough. But it was pretty much... West Hollywood. It was pretty much... It was pretty much over and then no one's sharing a bed of the Ruppers. Why do you guys say that? Like, what was the big deal?
Starting point is 01:19:16 Like, why is it better to share with Mike? I mean... Rubber is that night? No, he didn't. He had one. Yeah. He had a night terror. He started screaming.
Starting point is 01:19:25 He was fucking repulsed by what he saw in the fucking bed next door. He was going to be. You guys, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to sleep over here. No, around midnight. Oh. Oh. He sat up and started screaming at the top of his lungs.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Who says this doesn't feel like a pussy? Oh. You're like Night Rider, Michael, Knight. You're driving me to ecstasy. I'm on a verge of tears over here. Michael, I don't think you're supposed to put that there, Michael. Shut up, Kit. Bruce is like, I've slept in storage units worse than this, but better than this.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Wow. Yeah, I didn't want to get hit with that horn. He had the big dreadlock. You know, he smells funny either. It wouldn't be any better if he slept in the bed with Rob Bruce. It's a weird choice either way. But they set up the years and years of Brian Johnson laying the groundwork that these two are sleeping together already.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And then they go ahead and do it. Yeah. No wonder they kept it a secret. Oh, so this is what he's been talking about. 13 years later, I thought the statute of limitations But apparently not. Why fight it? Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Wow. So that happened. BQ gets a big point. Nice. Early lead. Nice work, yeah. Story two. While at a con, Min went to Walmart with a group of guests and included
Starting point is 01:21:11 Donnie Ralph Mouth Most. I don't know if you know who that is. Sure, of course. Happy Days, right? Yes. One of the Happy Days, gang. Why did you go? What do you get?
Starting point is 01:21:22 What supplies do you guys need? I didn't need anything. He needed Pepsid AC. He also said, when you want to share a room when we get back? I heard you're not averse to it. It's like, sure, Ralph, mouth. I still got it. If anybody gets that joke, you got to be a happy day's fewer.
Starting point is 01:21:44 The hey, minks, sit on. Sit on a nerd. Sit on it. Man, this is really the, I don't know, we, is it 2026, we're making these jokes? Like this. It's kind of heavy. It might be 2020.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I knew the first story was going to go that way. I didn't know that Ralph Mout. Everett's going to go this way. It might be 2026 out there. In this studio, it's still 2000. It's still 1926. Yeah, you're right. Ralph Mout needed an essence or whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Why didn't the consent someone for? for such an esteemed guest. That was right after we were, we were splitting a ride from the airport to the hotel. And say, hey, can we stop off at Walmart and get Pepsi Day soon? I see. Sure, I'll go with you, Ralph Mouth. You, you knew him? Like, you guys knew each other.
Starting point is 01:22:34 I knew who he was. We didn't meet until that moment. Oh, and he was comfortable derailing your journey to the hotel to get. Fucker Ralph Mouth versus Ming Chen. Yeah. I don't think he has a problem. Be like, a driver. We're stopping at Walmart.
Starting point is 01:22:47 My stomach hurts. Yeah, it wasn't a big deal. He probably thought Ming was the driver. What are you doing back here? The agent is a Yoko. Can we go to Walmart? Yes, sir, Green Hornet. Now, I know Ming has a history of going to Walmart with other con guests.
Starting point is 01:23:04 It's not the, I haven't seen it several times. Ralph Mouth, would we have heard this already? Yeah. That's a big deal. He said, you would have told me this, I would think. You know so much I love happy days. So he never told you? I, none of the, I knew none of these.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Ralph Mouth, it wasn't Henry Winkler or. Oh, it's still. Oh, man, it's still Ralph Mouth. Or Ron Howard. How old was he at the time? I mean, in his 50s, I imagine. Oh, okay, still relatively. Yeah, it was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I mean, it's not really a, did you buy anything? No, I didn't get anything. But you went in the store with them. Yeah. But you guys didn't know each other. No. How long was the car ride from the airport to the store? It's like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:23:45 So within 10 minutes, you got to the point where you're like, I'll jump out of the car with you and go buy stuff. Yeah, just case I need anything. I don't need anything. Sounds like bullshit, doesn't it? He wants to be seen walking around fucking Donnie Most, though, wouldn't you? Sure, to this day. Right?
Starting point is 01:23:58 Because you're walking around Walmart and all of a sudden people are like, oh my God, there's Ralph Mouth. Right. Who? With a little Lundit house going. Who? That's my CD, the $3 rack over there.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Yeah, I didn't end up getting anything. Any questions? Yeah, like, why wouldn't you tell Walt? Like, why wouldn't you have told him something like this? Again, it wasn't Henry Winkler? It wasn't Ron Howard? Donnie Moist I would think anybody from the happy days game
Starting point is 01:24:25 Right I would think so Miss C Joni Chachi I didn't think it was big enough Have you guys Was that the last time
Starting point is 01:24:34 You were with him No I've seen him since then He's been doing a lot of times Now he knows who you are Now I hopefully He remembers me Yeah Right
Starting point is 01:24:40 Right Hey you boy Oh no Hot off the wire Catherine O'Hara died Oh no really Yeah That's a shame
Starting point is 01:24:49 Oh that is a bummer Oh, shit. She's American Treasure that one. Yeah, she really is. Didn't go to Walmart with her. No. What do you think, get him? What are you going to weigh in on Dony most?
Starting point is 01:25:02 False. False. Yeah. Why so? Cockshore. Just, damn. Again, it's something he would have brought up. Q?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Uh, it's a weird one. It can go either way. But why bring it up as a fake one? I go, true. Because it brings up happy days. I go true. That was good. Brian?
Starting point is 01:25:26 Cons, I feel like, are different. Like, you do make friends very quickly at cons. Even, I don't know, even within the first 10 minutes. I went to a movie with a guy from The Conjuring, that priest. What's his name? I can't remember his last name. Yeah, like we went to the movies. Starts with a C.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah. He was in it. Yeah. Yeah, we went to see Conjuring 2 or something. I think it's true. Yeah. I see Ming being able. the buddy up to somebody that quickly.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Ming Chen, reveal it. This story, Dining Monster story is false. Never happened. Oh, God. Damn it. Never happened.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Kham's on the board. I have going to Walmart with fellow con guests, but not Danymos. Who? Who's an example of a Walmart? Our old friend, Katrina Law,
Starting point is 01:26:11 I think that's a photo you saw where we were mess around. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. We pulled out, I think, like a kitty pool or like screwing around in a Walmart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Sounds fun. It was fun. It was horsing around, yeah. It was shenanigans and that type of stuff. I wasn't invited. Mike wasn't invited. It was corny hoarser. Yeah, Mike was not invited to his dismayed.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Yes. Was he pissed? Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. Why? I'm fun too, Mike. I mean, Ming?
Starting point is 01:26:40 That's exactly. Right? Oh, yeah. No, he's the biggest stick in the fucking mud on the planet. Why didn't I get invited? Of course he was not. I'm her friend too. I'm a friend too.
Starting point is 01:26:50 I'm not even if I did. Sorry, Mike. Sorry, Mike. Now I think he's edging towards a potential problem. There she is. Katrina Law. What was she in again? Arrow.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Arrow. Sparticus. Played Rosalgoogle's daughter. She was Talia? Yeah, Talia Ogul, yeah. She's on one of the CSI type shows right now. Super sweet lady. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Number three. A rabid comic book man fan. While posing for a paid photo op with Ming revealed his wife was back at the hotel room sleeping with a Power Ranger cosplayer. Huh. Oh, it's so weird. It almost has to be true. It's like so random. Oh, and you know these cons get freaky like that.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Yeah. Fuck. So what did you say? What do you say to that? I mean, what can you say? I need a clarification. I'm like, wait, not the actual Power Ranger himself, a cosplayer. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Yeah, it was a cosplayer. Did you see the lady later on? I didn't see her later on. Did you ask him if there's any Mike Zapsic cosplayers you could sleep with? I did not ask him. Or was Mike at this con-toe? He was at the con-too. A threesome then?
Starting point is 01:28:10 Oh, it could have been. Mike, can you? Yeah, not the weirdest thing I've heard of it. That one was pretty weird. Like, not the actual Pirateer himself. Yeah, it was a cosplayer. Well, did she tricked into it? Did you think it was the real con?
Starting point is 01:28:23 No. He left his mask on. No. The helmet. It's morphing time. Yeah. I mean, have you heard of stories like this at cons? I mean, it's usually with the actual guests, like the actual talent themselves.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Really? But, yeah. You've heard salacious stories with fellow guests. Yeah. It's usually power ratings. You're shocked by that. Yeah. Conventions are, that's where people let their hair down, man.
Starting point is 01:28:48 They're like, it's like what happens at cons, stays at cons. I don't think anything stays anywhere in today's world Not with Ming Chen playing this new game We're lucky Ming Chen was that Mega Con when we were there Jesus Now did the guy say in like was he pissed or was he almost proud that Wasn't proud Oh he was kind of like no
Starting point is 01:29:11 He was not happy Oh no Poor dude Oh my God Because some people enjoy that sort of thing Yeah some people are into that Some people are I mean if it was was like the actual Power Ranger, maybe, but not a
Starting point is 01:29:24 cosplayer. Did you ask him why he was abiding by it? I mean, I was like, I mean, I didn't want to upset him that much. Happy wife, happy life. Yes. Which color Power Ranger? It was the green one. Green Ranger. Not even Pink Ranger.
Starting point is 01:29:40 That would have been awesome. It was an Amy Jo Johnson cosplayer, but it was a Jason-David-Frank cosplayer. Oh, man. I mean, how long was your interaction with this guy? It was two minutes. You couldn't get a ton of information. What would you do, Q, when you're, let's say you're doing an IJ photo op and somebody said
Starting point is 01:29:59 that, hey, yeah, my wife's, won't believe this Q, but my wife's back fucking a cosplayer. He looks unhappy about it? Yeah, he's bummed out. I'd be like, do you, I would like, are you unhappy about it? And if he's bummed out, I'd be like, I think you should talk to your wife about it, man. Can you talk to her for me? She really likes IJ. Even though she didn't want to come this photo.
Starting point is 01:30:18 I'd be like, you know, she's still fucking that guy before she'd be here. Yeah, I would say go buy. I was like, you can't come back for free. You got a, you got to buy her. Yeah, photo op. And then get her in here and I'll talk to her about it for you. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:30:32 You would talk to her? Yeah. Would you really do it? If she paid the money? Yeah. You would want that kind of fucking heavy conversation? It's not heavy to me. Yeah, I think even without the payment, I would want to, I'd like, tell me about it.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah. I want to see what the wife looks like. Yeah. We only go around once, Q. That's what she's saying. When do you say to that? I'd be like, yeah. But what about your husband being upset by it?
Starting point is 01:30:54 You'll get over it. Why, why are you married? It's cold. Like, why have I even talking to her? You're like, all right, well, look at the camera. Cheese and... There he is. Go on.
Starting point is 01:31:06 There's a son of a push, the Green Ranger. Yeah, look at that unit right there. I mean, you know, why wouldn't you do it, but... I think it's true. I think it's true. I think this sort of thing is going on all the time all around this. And apparently, and every once in a while, you have to... You get confronted with the fact that this is happening.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Brian? I believe it to be true. It seems too random to be false where somebody's really creative. I'm going to say true. I know Ming-R-Hang does hang around with some swingers. Swingers? This guy paying for a photo op. You're not hanging out with him.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Yeah, but he gives off that energy of like, you know, for swingers. So, like, they just admit stuff to him. Hey, oh. Yeah. Okay. And that's true, you say. Yes. True across the board.
Starting point is 01:31:52 True across the board. Ming Chen. The story is 100% made up by Wall Flanning. Oh, God damn. Wow. We've heard a lot of slacious tales, but yeah, nothing to this extremity. Now, you're a really super positive guy. How would you spin that?
Starting point is 01:32:12 I think somebody actually did tell you that while you were there. Like getting the photo up, you're just, you're like, hey, man, how you're doing? And I'm like, what the hell are not too good? And he tells you that. Yeah. What the hell are you doing here with me? But I understand you paid for this. You know, it's a set time.
Starting point is 01:32:25 If you don't come at this time, you're going to miss me for the photo op. But, yeah, I'd be like, when you're done, come. I need to hear more of this. Come back to the table. I'll give you a free autograph that makes you feel better. It won't. Now, if you were a single guy, would you be participating in these sort of con shenanigans, you think? Uh, it depends.
Starting point is 01:32:45 That's a yes. It depends. He's like, how much can I say without getting in trouble? Send him on, make. Let's move on, man. Let's move on. Could you help a single guy at a con? Ming was so ill in a public restroom at a convention.
Starting point is 01:32:58 He had to call his con handler and ask her to send in someone to pass toilet paper under the stall. Hold on. Oh, you were out of toilet paper in your stall. Yes. And your con handler actually accompanied you to the bathroom? No, I had to send a guy in. He called his con handler. Oh, called him on the phone.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yes. Oh, okay. Her. What do you need? He called her, like, just screaming her name. Well, I thought first, at first, it was a guy that was with him in the bathroom. Brian, you have to remember, you say true to everything. You buy anything.
Starting point is 01:33:33 True. That's true. Every fucking story he's told today. You'd be like, true. That's definitely true. It sounds true to me. Now you start questioning the most logical of the aspects of the story. Why are you in a con?
Starting point is 01:33:51 Why did you have a phone on you? So frame it again. You're in a stall. You're getting sick. Yes. From the other end. Yes. You run out of toilet paper.
Starting point is 01:34:02 I didn't even check and there's no toilet paper in there. And you need toilet papers. I mean, I need it bad, yes. So you call her and she sends a dude in. Yes. There's only one stall in this bathroom? No, there are multiple. Yeah, but there's other people there.
Starting point is 01:34:15 So you're going to have to, like, you know, porky pig it out. You're in a desperate situation. That's a weird choice of words. saying? Porky, I've never heard that before. Where's that mean? No pants. No, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Yeah. I mean, it could be Donald Duck. That could be... Oh, that's what that means. No pants? Oh, I love that. Did you make that up? No.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Oh, that's brilliant. I stole it from the S&L alien abduction sketch. Okay. So, Donald Duck would be also equivalent to that. I guess so, yeah. Any animorphic animal that doesn't wear pants? Yeah. Howard the Duck.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah. Yeah, ho duck, yeah. Okay. Hmm. Yeah, there's one other stall known in there. and then there are people at the urinal, so I couldn't porgy pick it out of there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:55 It would have been weird if you did, right? All of a sudden. That's happened to me here. Comic Man's Ming Chen is porgy pigging around the bathroom. You're doing it for an hour. You got enough shit stories at cons to worry about. We don't need any more. Oh, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah. What do you think, were you able to fight past this and get out there and do your duties of the con? Afterwards, yeah. Duties. I got it. He won with Johnny Most to get some pepped-up. Obisimal.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Got most of it out there, but it was pretty bad. What are you got? And it's hard to catch him a lie because it's... Trunt, I know. Everything, I think everything is true. What do you think caused it? Alcohol? A lot.
Starting point is 01:35:37 No, it was just a, it was, I had something called the hot brown in Kentucky. You went at the hotel room back with Mike. The hot brown. It was in the green room. Don't let this get cold. You're going to. want to eat it hot, Ming. Yum.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Eat it quick. Oh, it's hot. I know why Ming hasn't been back at a while. People are overhearing this. They're in the stall. Steaming, baby. Oh, hop around.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Get out of me. Couldn't you mean the hop around. He's the one that fucking born enough. Don't believe me. I'm not going to hear hop around and not think that. No, no, you're right. You're right. Yeah, it's logical to put that all together that Mike was shit in his mouth.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Who wouldn't put that together? It was not a Cleveland steam or whatever. Don't waste it on the con floor. That's great. You get a four-star review for that for the week. Don't eat the hot brown in Kentucky. Oh, boy. Great joke in them.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Wow. Wow, okay. Have you had a hop-round since? No. Okay, that was your last hour. I mean, no. I don't recommend anyone eat the hop-brown. You didn't go back to the room and shower first? No, I...
Starting point is 01:37:02 You would? Yeah. Even though you've got a line of people waiting for you to fucking sign autographs and take pictures with. I just drop the hop-round. I'm going to give you a minute. They don't care. Well, he was just out of toilet paper. So, like, with toilet paper, he could probably have wiped pretty clean.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Yeah, but still, the stomach and the... He's going to turn it. down that money, he could come back. I think he was that line may be gone. Sometimes once it gets out of you, though, you're fine. Was there a long line waiting for you? I mean, not that's that long.
Starting point is 01:37:30 It was, come on. He's AMC's being chent. It was just two guys who was the whiteswood with the Rangers. We heard you eat hot browns. You're on Friday right now? Fall on hard times. Let's be truthful here. You have four or five people.
Starting point is 01:37:45 It wasn't that long. I washed my hands. I didn't have to put a full on shower. I understand. All right. I guess it's true. I mean, these things happen. I'm afraid to say true anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:57 It sounds true to me, but I'm afraid. He's doing it for a reason. He's in your head. Yeah, I know. You're going to say true? I'm going to say true. These things happen. It's happened to me on tour.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I've had to run off stage. Do a spray. Get back on stage. So you went back on stage. You didn't go back to the room and take a shower. I fucking, you know, Sal was talking for five minutes during his bit, so I had the time to go run, but I had to get back from my bit. It happens.
Starting point is 01:38:22 It happens. It's got to be like a nightmare. It's a scenario, right? Were there only four or five people in the crowd? No, this is an arena. Oh, yeah. It was in a huge arena. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Cynist's a dream. So Q says true. Brie says, I'm going to say it's true. True. Yeah. It sounds innocent enough that it could have happened. Yeah. I want to say true.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Like, it's happened to me here. We're like, you have to porky-pigot? Yeah. right now. Yeah, because at least I knew there was nobody in the bathroom so I could go to the next stall. Wow, your landlord didn't fill up the, uh...
Starting point is 01:38:58 No, this is before we got the cleaning service that comes in every Friday and refills. Yeah. And I didn't check. Now I check. Well, you don't have your own flea market toilet paper. Fool me once. Well, I would have had to come all the way back here for the toilet paper. Good point. Meng Chen, reveal it.
Starting point is 01:39:11 The story never happened. Whoa. We could sell Brian to fucking land in fucking the Everglades, right? Again, 100% made up by Walt Flanagan. That's why I have all this money with me. I'm going to buy a bridge today. Good story, though. Good story.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I'm meeting a guy. Behind the airport plaza. I'm buying a bridge. You know how much I'm going to make a tolls? You guys are the stupid ones. Yeah, it never happened. I did eat a thing called the Hot Brown in Lexington, Kentucky, though. Did not give you the shit.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Did not give me the shit. Yeah, I should have known from that, like, he was an iron stump. Yeah, I can, I've eaten a lot of, shit. Yeah, I've been a lot of weird shit. Okay, number five. How many questions are there? I'm wondering if I'm going to go over.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Well, maybe. I'm thinking you're probably the law of averages. It's 50%. It has to be true. It has to be true. Want to borrow a coin? Ming was invited to an after party thrown by a certain big comic book company. And by the end of the night, the two glass tables in the room were fouled Jack
Starting point is 01:40:14 Nicholson style by two somewhat known drunk artists. No fucking way. What does that mean, Jack Nicholson style? Oh, you've never heard Jack Nicholson what he did to the glass table? Is this a shot on the table? Okay, another shit story. Two comic artists. You see the theme here.
Starting point is 01:40:32 What year was this? It was 2014, I think. I feel like this would have gotten out somehow. Two comic legendary artists? Well, not legendary. Somewhat known. Drunk artist. It wasn't like Stan Lee and,
Starting point is 01:40:50 What did they did? They just started shitting on a table? They shed on the table. In front of how many people? Four. Six. Was it your table at the con? Wasn't my table at the con.
Starting point is 01:41:04 It wasn't my table at the con. Come on, guys. Fun's fun, but like, this is the fourth time. I got to try to make money here. You keep shitting on my table. I think we would have heard about this one for sure. Yeah. Especially with all this shit.
Starting point is 01:41:19 You know, like, jinks like that happen all the time. I mean in our circle, because there's a lot of talking about. shit of cons in our circle. And I feel it would have came up in conjunction. I'm saying false. Did you see it or did you hear it? I heard about it. Oh, you heard about it. As was all the shit stories.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I don't think that happened. There's no way. Why? Why is it so out of bounds for you? Two people are doing this? Only Jack Nicholson has the fucking clout that can do that, pull that off? Yeah. These guys are out of common artists. These guys are gods out of CompaCon.
Starting point is 01:41:49 You have two of them are doing it? Like multiple. She's one doing it. He's like, oh, I'm not I'll let him get one up on. We'll just see about this. You know how competitive these artists are? I'm saying false. I'm going false.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Okay. Brian? It sounds false to me. One guy doing it like drunkenly, I'd be like, wow, that's fucked up. I believe it. Two guys? Yeah. Yeah, two guys seems false.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Probably maybe they got together. Dueling ass cracks. I dare you. And if I do it, you got to do it too. Could be. False, though. False. I got to go false with that.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Okay. Get him. I'm with the number of people I'm going to say false. I believe one guy will do it. And then once that happens, that's what kind of ends the night. Yeah, everybody leaves the room.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Every leaves the party. That's legendary though, right? If it happened, though. I would certainly talk about it the rest of my life. Ming Chen. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:42 the story never happens. You guys are, finally on the board. Finally on the board. A little far-fetched. Has one. Brian Johnson's on the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:52 But I did one. I want to blame Jim Mahfood and Mark Wade if you guys would have asked. Oh, I didn't think you would have mentioned. Yeah. You guys never asked. Well, then I would have known it as false for sure because those guys are. Yeah, Jim Mahfood. Mark Wade's.
Starting point is 01:43:09 It's not a youngster anymore. No, but, you know. You don't want to. At a certain age, yeah, like it's. Well, that's interesting. Did you read that? Can we just put up there? It was from Puck Nuts.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Yeah, it was from Puck Nuts. A story that we told on Puck Nuts about somebody. he crapping on a glass table. You've never heard that story before? No, I had heard it. Well, Ming talks about it. No, I definitely heard it, but Ming talks about the weird stuff, super rich people do. It goes on to talk about Kev telling him about a guy who pays chicks to take a dump on a glass table.
Starting point is 01:43:35 No, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, makes a joke, it's Kev. Ming names the guy and it's edited. Walt says he's going to have to take it out. Ming then replies why, because he's from Jersey. He's not a devil's fan. Anyone know who that could be? It's got me wondering.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I don't remember this at all. I don't remember it all either. I remember vaguely, yeah. Do you remember who you're talking about? I see my exact same. Oh, well, that came out. The internet knows that story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:57 So why did I think I had to take that out? Like, Jack Nicholson was going to be backlash. Yeah, wow. That you're going to sell his reputation, his squeaky clean reputation. Imagine that. Jack Nicholson. Oh, Jack Nicholson. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Okay. Somebody stop me. A convention promoter got assaulted by an angry talent agent, and for the promoter put his clients in what he deemed a not high traffic, unsexy spot next to Ming Chen. Oh. One level of assault.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It was punches. Punches. Punches were thrown. Yes. Chokeholds, punches. Who is the person? Who was the celebrity set? He had Bai Ling and a bunch of other people I never really heard of.
Starting point is 01:44:45 One guy from Deadwood, Peter. But who was the celebrity that this was over? No, he had multiple celebrities. They were all put in the spot that I was in, the Ming Chen section. He had like four or five people. But the ones you were known, Bai Ling and one guy who was in Deadwood. Did it escalate? Like, did it start with like, did you witness this yourself?
Starting point is 01:45:07 I didn't witness that. I heard about it. But other people I talked to back to them. Was your name mentioned as the prime reason? No. Okay. No. How did you feel hearing that?
Starting point is 01:45:17 Yeah, we're offended. I, at least you were talking about me. Eddie, I was a Again, these days I'm just happy to be there What year was this? It just happened.
Starting point is 01:45:27 It just happened. Oh, just happened. I was going to say because like There was a time when Ming Chen was definitely like more talked about
Starting point is 01:45:36 than by a Ling, right? She's not that big. No, but she wasn't the crow. So. Hmm. Yeah, I heard punches were throwing headlocks. What was the result of this?
Starting point is 01:45:50 I think, I mean, Somebody separated it. I don't know. I think the guy, somebody pressed charges. But were the people moved to a different area or whether you had this? No,
Starting point is 01:45:58 this happened after. Guy got angry after the con. He negotiated the, you know, the promoter was like, I'll give you a Ming Chen's cut. To make up for this. Maybe I'm going to need whatever you made this weekend.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I need it. I'll sign it over to Bobling. What's the girl's name? Biling. Biling, you know, it's taking all your, She needs a minimum. She needs a minimum.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Yeah. I'm going to let you go first. What do you think? I'm going to say it's true. It's true. I think, you know, something can get heated and then someone like, you know, chest shoves somebody and then it's done. And then it's just, yeah, it's all out. Brian? Sounds true to me. I've seen, I've seen these agents get wild. Hey, I got the last one right, get them. I think it's false because of,
Starting point is 01:46:52 like, I don't know how that, that story, like an assault goes at a con, what rich people or famous people attach to it. I think that's fodder. Temper's flare. It's at the end. I'm not saying it couldn't happen. All weekend, you sat next to Ming Chen, man. I would love it.
Starting point is 01:47:07 It would make me happen. Hearing that laughter, eight hours a day. The Christmas is left. I just think it would have been on like, it would have been on a website or something like that. Yeah. So I'm going to say. You think it would come under your attention, though?
Starting point is 01:47:22 if you even if I got to a website? Guy who ignores everything. Yeah, but somebody in this room when I heard it. Today on CMZ. Variety. IJ. ratings through the roof.
Starting point is 01:47:33 And Khan agent attacked. Bylings promoter. I'm saying it's false. I don't think it's true. Ming Chen. Brian Johnson, you're on a roll. All right. This actually happened in Albuquerque two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we got stashed in the basement in the, the con agent. Now, you're, I thought you were like a beloved character at Albuquerque. I am, but this is my night time there, so they're like, all right, we'll put Ming Ken can't give you the prime real estate anymore.
Starting point is 01:47:58 We'll put that. Or maybe just went to pull the Asians in there. Byling, Ming Chen. You're right. They're used to mine work. But that would be like put them out of a job. Like who's going to invite these people back if they're, if their manager's swinging fifth? Ah, they're probably not coming back.
Starting point is 01:48:14 No. Now, who's the guy from Deadwood? I'm really curious about that. Peter. All right. All right. Move on. Are you still looking up this shit?
Starting point is 01:48:22 Oh, all right. He was a technical advisor, his throat and consultant. Oh, my God. He's in a con. He's going to try to pull cloud over Ming Chen? He did act in Tombstone, so I think he's been in a bunch of stuff. But now you can see why he got put in the basement with me. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:38 I thought he was on Deadwood. He was like, holy shit. What's he doing down here with me? A technical advisor. Jesus Christ. While at a convention, Ming witnessed a convention goer freaking out because her emotional support. bird escaped. What state was this?
Starting point is 01:48:59 San Diego. San Diego Comic Con. San Diego Comic-Card. I think I might know the answer to this one already. You've heard this? I think I might. It's okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Gettom's in the lead, you know, with three, so take any advantage you can get it. Oh, really? Yeah. Right behind them. Right on your heels, get them. What are you going to do about it? What do you think, Gett? What kind of bird was it?
Starting point is 01:49:25 I have no idea. It's a big bird. I don't know. No, no support, Robin. it was an orio I have a deal a cow parrot a falcon
Starting point is 01:49:38 and it was it was allowed into the con because it was an emotional support bird it flew off no show of support animal and you saw her crying yes did you try to console her
Starting point is 01:49:48 no was she dressed in cosplay uh I don't remember her being in cosplay so I'm just regular clothes what did you do what was a breakdown like just freaking out
Starting point is 01:49:58 what does that mean running around just trying to get the bird back Okay. So the bird was flying around the cotton. It was flying around the cotton. Poor bird, man. Like, it happened to Debbie.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Like her, McCaw flew off into a tree and, like, it took her hours with the police to get the bird down. So I kind of believe it. Okay. Yeah. I'm surprised police would devote that many hours. I thought it was like a fireman thing. Well, like, it took her hours. The cops weren't there the whole time.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Like, I think she was trying to see if she could get something. Like, they send the cops first and then the cops. Gotcha. Yeah, like figure out who to try to send and, yeah. Gotcha. I'm going to say true. True. Because you need the martial support animal anyway.
Starting point is 01:50:39 And then the bird flies away and you can't get it to come back to you. And that's, that's going to be pretty stressful. Did you get the bird back? Yeah. I'll say, yeah, it's inside. I would think it would be, yeah. What do you think, Brian? I'm going to go with my old standard true.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Well, Kiddham's on a role and Brian thinks he knows the answer. The fact that you even think you know the answer means you've heard the story before, which means it's probably true. So I'll go with true. I'll go with my compadres here. I kind of get the feeling that this is true. You've really run out of wild stories if this is the one you're bringing to the table that you saw someone lose emotional support bird. I was thinking more bawdy shit was going to be the more sexual or salacious. Well, it's salacious.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Right. But yeah, something a little bit more with a little bit more like teeth. Yes. Like, yeah, this is kind of like. this is like get him level not worth telling yeah yeah I'm gonna get a virus
Starting point is 01:51:37 well I told it and this one is 100% true what's what happened you were there I was there that's why you know it was in that big glass room yeah
Starting point is 01:51:47 the sales pavilion if you've been to San Diego Comic Con sunk thunk and uh surprising that what animals in
Starting point is 01:51:53 yeah I was shocked too but yeah one started running around crying telling everyone to close the door doors. And I was like, what's
Starting point is 01:52:01 going on? I was like, her bird escape. She should not be bringing this bird to a con. No. No, and the way they got it back was it smacked into one of the windows.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Didn't die. Didn't die. It knocked itself out. It was stunned. It knocked itself out. But she got the bird back. It was pining for the scene. Like, what the hell?
Starting point is 01:52:19 Like California, man. They'll let anything fly there. Literally. Yeah, really? Literally. Yeah, that was a year you were there. Yeah. Everybody said,
Starting point is 01:52:29 true, right? Yeah, so everybody gets a point. And that means get him still in the lead. Oof. Damn. Got to seat you somehow. Neck and neck.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Like a rivalry going on here. Two more left. That's it. All right. While at a convention, Ming heard a rumor that a high profile action star got drunk
Starting point is 01:52:47 and attended a late night hotel room party at a con. Upon leaving the room, he perceived a fan to be looking at him funny and he sunk or punched him. He spent the weekend in the
Starting point is 01:52:59 jail cell instead of at the con. Say it. Say you one more time. I think I lost something. I'm sorry. So he was at a con. He overheard this rumor. You weren't at the party, right?
Starting point is 01:53:11 No. About an action star going to somebody's room for a party. While he's there, he perceives that some fan has given him a funny look. He punches him, gets arrested, and then spends the whole con in jail. I see. Okay. All right. What con?
Starting point is 01:53:27 Alamo City Comic Con, San Antonio. Oh, City. Who was the guy? Can you tell that? Wouldn't it be a public record? Oh, yeah, yeah. It was Manu Bennett. You know, Manu Bennett?
Starting point is 01:53:40 No. Played a dead shot and arrow. He's been a bunch of stuff. Okay. I've watched. Big guy. Oh, CW. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:47 He's been in movies. Okay. Why did he, what was the guy? Was giving him a look? Yes. That's what I heard. And this guy's so unhinged that that was enough to send him?
Starting point is 01:53:56 He was very drunk. Oh, wow. We've been, we've been. I fifth the Jack Daniels, I heard. Look at this guy He looks old enough to know better You know? At a con?
Starting point is 01:54:12 Yeah, but like It can't be as far as con Like you show up, you get that hammered How come you weren't at the party? I don't know somewhere else Didn't get invited at this cool party I would have been me Oh definitely
Starting point is 01:54:24 Could have been me Got knocked out or throwing the punch Oh, get knocked out for sure I'm not going to punch And when was this? In 16 I think 16, 17? Did it have an adverse effect on his career?
Starting point is 01:54:40 I don't think so. I mean, he missed that weekend. I don't remember him losing eight jobs over. Have you seen him on the concert since then? Yeah, he's probably up. And is he drinking still or is he? I think he's sober now. I think that was one of the things that woke him up eventually.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Okay. I haven't heard of him punching anyone since. I'm going to have to play Ming on this one, not the story. Mm-hmm. I think it's false. I think it's false, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Brian? I think it's true. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to say it's true. True. Yeah, I think that redemption arc will kind of get you back to. What's the redemption arc?
Starting point is 01:55:21 Like, oh, I went into, you know, I apologize for my crimes. You know, I'm sorry. I went to, I volunteered to rehab. Okay. You know, it's kind of a redemption arc then, you know, he's gotten better. Something to talk about. So this is it for me. if I'm right and they're wrong, I'm head and head with Ming, and it comes down to the next question.
Starting point is 01:55:41 If I'm wrong, I'm out, I'm out. I can't do it. Yeah, what was it, Ming? This one 100% true happened. Now the reason I said true? Yeah. I think I was at that con. I think you were at that con.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Okay. All right. I vaguely remember something like that happening. He went to jail for the weekend, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He missed the whole weekend.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah, we were all joking that, I was like, man, it's going to be tough to make your guarantee from jail. Yeah. Yeah, no, there's no judges over the weekend. So he wasn't, he couldn't appear before the court until Monday. So we were making fun of him mercilessly. Oh, so he was... 2015. 15.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Wow. 11 years ago. Jesus. That's rough. Hunched a man who asked him to leave a party. It's going to come down to this. Get him. Last question.
Starting point is 01:56:26 As far as I know, he hasn't hit anyone since, so I guess that's good. Ming bought liquor for a cast member of a very popular sports movie after he kept hounding him relentlessly. The actor was later kicked out of the con for being drunk. Facilitated by Ming Chen. Is this an underage actor? No. He was like an 11-year-old. He was of age.
Starting point is 01:56:48 So why is he hounding you? I guess he thought I could get him liquor. Why couldn't you get his own liquor? I don't know. Maybe the con was instructed not to get him liquor because of this behavior. So he was going. No one told me that. No one told me that wasn't menu better.
Starting point is 01:57:04 What was he drinking? Uh, it was Jameson. Where'd you get the bottle? Liquor Storm. You, you left your table to get liquor for this guy. It was before the con. Before the con. Was that the blindside kid?
Starting point is 01:57:17 It was not. Oh, was that Michael Orr or that guy or? He's always got a conservative chef. Wait, no, that's not right. We were over the actor is. But why are you so willing, why are you so willing to do tasks for people like this? You're like, yeah. He's in Chen.
Starting point is 01:57:28 That's why when you walked in here today, you were fucking walking on air? I don't have to do tasks for me. I know you don't. but other people do, and that's why they love him. That's why he is so lovable. He'll do anything. He's got a dignity. He's going to get a butterfly costume for you.
Starting point is 01:57:44 You don't ask him to do it. That's fun. Yeah, well, for QS, man. That's different. He doesn't have to do it. That's what this guy is like, hey, he needs some fun. Can you get me some fucking some liquor? You butterfly bully.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Yeah. It's not big deal. Say, hey, can you pick me up by a James? I'm sure. Guy from well-known sports movie. But you just went to a liquor store that you wouldn't have gone to anyway, just to get him a bottle of James. He might have gone to.
Starting point is 01:58:05 He might have been going to any way to pick up a lord or some crap like that. Maybe. Because he can't, yeah, he's not going to take it on the plane with him. Who was this guy? Maybe. It was a guy from, you need the movie? I mean, who is it? Oh, who is he?
Starting point is 01:58:18 Yeah. It was the guy, the main character from the sandlot, the movie the sandlot. Oh, my God. I'm saying true. I'm saying it's true. Why are you saying? Because I've had run-ins with the cast of the sandlot before. They've all.
Starting point is 01:58:33 They've been like this. They party a lot. They party hardy. They party hardy. They don't fucking stop even when you want them to. So I have personal experience with this. So he may be lying, but in my personal experience, this is true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Yeah. We had a problem with one of them at one of our after parties in L.A. When we played the Greek theater, we had to be like, can we get the sky that flocked out of our ears? I was in the sandlock, cock sucker. I mean, yeah. No, really? Yeah. Yeah, that's how it was.
Starting point is 01:59:02 James Earl Jones. Brian? This time, like you did last time, I'm going to play Ming, because every time he answered, he looked away. Okay. I'm going to say it's false. False. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Because even if he was hound, I can't imagine Ming being like, yeah, I'll leave my table and my mind. He said before the con. So he's like 9 o'clock in the morning. So he's doing like a supply run. Right. I think if he could be, I don't think Ming even cares that he's in the sandlot. I think it could be the fucking bathroom attendant could be like, Hey.
Starting point is 01:59:35 You got me some liquor? I'm your guy. You pick me up some tall boys? Like, sure. I think he's so accommodating.
Starting point is 01:59:45 He's just, he wants to be the man. I've been at a man goes at a high price. I've been at events where management told him to stop giving way alcohol to people.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Yeah, we got in trouble in Kentucky. We did. Okay, so I've been multiple times, then. So that's why I find it not hard to believe.
Starting point is 02:00:04 He is very accommodating when he comes to alcohol. And so you're saying true? He's a facilitator. Yeah, true. True. And Brian, you're saying false. I'm saying false. We got two truths and one false. Or two false and one true. Oh, no, he said true. I mean, Q said true. Brian said true. Brigh said false. Get him said true.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Ming, final answer? Brian Quinn notices these guys' reputation as well. This absolutely happened. Yeah. It happened to me. It happened. Yeah. Oh. So why did you say, okay, I'll go get you alcohol? I didn't think it was a big deal. I didn't know he had a problem at the time.
Starting point is 02:00:37 So why couldn't he get it himself? Like, what was the reasoning? Uh, I, I was, I was driving. I was driving him to the con and he kept pounding me to stop at a liquor store. Did you have to buy it? He paid for it. How come he couldn't buy it? I had to buy it.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I was so weird, right? Is that some kind of list or something? Yeah, that is weird. Yeah, no, I just went and bought it. Okay. That's you the man. He's the man. The Sandlot Thomas Geary, who played Scotty Small
Starting point is 02:01:03 was arrested at Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston after being deemed too intoxicated to board a United Airlines flight. During the incident, Geary then 31, allegedly became belligerent and head-butted a police officer. Could have been you, Ming, if you said no. He could have been head-butted. And he's driving. You're killing me, Smalls. You're killing me, Smalls. You're killing me.
Starting point is 02:01:27 You're killing me Smalls. Wow. So get him. Get him. Get him. Get them. Con. Convention stories or con stories.
Starting point is 02:01:34 It's the clean mind. Human life detector. No alcohol. He's thinking faster than ever. I know. That's dangerous. I know. We got to get any smarter?
Starting point is 02:01:45 Can he get any more clear-headed? All right. Well, that's it. All right, boys. Very quickly, though, I want to alert people to a scam that's going on. If you get an, tell him Steve Dave-related scam, if you get an email from Sage asking for gas money, don't give it to her Well number one
Starting point is 02:02:04 Everyone knows she drops a Tesla I saw that was very clever I saw that comment That was very clever So somebody is Acting as Sage Asking for gas money That's what I saw on Reddit
Starting point is 02:02:14 Yeah And are people giving money I don't know Nobody nobody Nobody copped to giving money That's insane Now you get email from getting Even if you're asking her gas money
Starting point is 02:02:21 That's 100% of the jet But still don't give him Don't give him gas money Tell him Steve Dave

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