Tell Em Steve-Dave - #676: Punished

Episode Date: May 17, 2026

Q and Walt discuss ‘Punisher: One Last Kill, Jimmy and Mychele get hitched, Tom vs his wife, is Bry Bald!?, serial killer exhibit, Dungeon Crawler Carl. https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/tesd

Fucking Mickey pulled down his pants and having a fucking major heart on instead of a fucking vagina. Someday you'll be 58 and be like, I should have made fun of Johnson. Now look at me. Tell him, Steve, Dave. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave. We have Walt here. Hello. We've got get him here.

Are you stanking? And via the internet, the magic of the internet is BQ. Mm-hmm. He's in, what are they calling? I'm going to be looking at you guys. He's in Shangri-La. Where do they call his place where he lives again? Showlin.

Oh, Shalind. Shal-Lin, yeah. What I call is Shang-R-Lah. Yeah, I don't think anybody calls it that. Even I don't call it. So do you guys want to talk about the Punisher first or the wedding? Whatever you want to talk about. Whatever you would like to talk about.

You guys, I like the spirited. I didn't see it, but I like the spirited discussion of the Punisher. You guys are happening. You kick it off with the Punisher? Sure. Yeah. So the Disney released Punisher, one last kill, it was a special this week.

And after I watched it, I would have went all in. I would have pushed all the chips in the middle of the table that BQ would be pleased with that rendition of the Punisher. But there was a little bit too much sobbing for BQ's liking. Yeah, you would have lost that butt. You would have lost everything. Like, again, what I said just before we said, started was like, I like the casting. Even though if I don't necessarily love

his take on the Punisher, I think he visually looks great. I love that Disney is even using the Punisher. You know what I mean? Which is shocking. You would think that they would want anything to do with the Punisher. Not even with a 10-foot pole would they touch the Punisher. No.

So, you know, any punisher is good Punisher. You know what I mean? I guess in a way. But I didn't love it. I just don't know why. I look, I've probably read, I don't know if I've, I've certainly read every Punisher story, including Cosmic Ghost Rider for the past 30 years. And I just don't remember him crying this much. Did he cry at all? I don't, I can't recall an instance of the Punisher crying. I mean, I'm sure

maybe he did here or there. I remember him, you know, mostly killing and being like a shark, just always moving forward, always taking care. A lot of crying in this Punisher. And a lot of, um, No skull until the very last. I don't, it should have started at the last scene, you know, when he was the Punisher. Okay. And also, like, I mean, they had to make these bad guys so evil. Like, there was zero gray area in this whatsoever. Like, if he kills a guy, you bet your ass, you saw that guy actually kill a puppy earlier in the fucking show.

And if, if, um, and if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, if he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, if there was flashbacks to him killing people, you bet your ass that person he killed was a child molester. It's like there was no good gray area whatsoever. It just didn't. And like they brought in Manucci. Now, how familiar are you with that story?

Pretty familiar. Yeah. It's considered, I think, one of the greatest punisher stories because there's a viciousness to it. There's a, humor to it.

There's a weirdness to it. That is, that, I felt if you're going to tackle Man Nucci and the Nuchis, you got to infuse it with that. And instead, we got Judith Light, who is the mother from Who's the boss? Who's the boss? Yeah. Yeah.

Believe me, I'm happy to see Judith Light. I thought that was the wife of the Sopranos. Oh, no. No. Oh, okay. I thought that was the lady that they had that. And I was like, that's pretty funny that they got the wife of the lady who was in the sopranos to play.

This mob lady. Right, yeah. Wow, okay. I was really off that. I knew I recognized her, but I was like, oh, I know that. That's Tony Soprano's wife. Angela. Angela.

And like, no humor, no weirdness, no anything. I was like, but why did you guys take Manucci out of the rotation and use her for this? If, like, her one scene is her in a wheelchair, like, warning him in advance that she was going to kill him. I just didn't get it. So, I don't know. I walked away being like I wasn't completely satisfied by it. I had the opposite reaction to the show. I thought, look, if you're going to portray the Punisher on the small screen or on the big screen and tackle it,

I think it's almost responsible for Disney to show how. schizophrenic and how psychotic and how damaged a human being has to be to do that. So I thought that that layering of that character having him be that haunted and emotionally unstable was almost a responsible way to portray this guy who is a killing machine because you don't want to. to glorify him in any way, shape, or form, right? I mean, Disney can't. This is where you and I disagree, my friend. But Disney cannot glorify the Punisher in this day and age. After the way the character's kind of been hijacked a little bit by a political idea or stance, right?

I mean, I mean, there's no denying that has happened to that character. sure but like it's been addressed it's been addressed three times it's been addressed in both series that he had on netflix and in daredevil we got it like what is the point of pulling out the character if that's the only drum you're going to beat like we got it i got it he's not a great guy i should have tried to emulate the punisher i got news i wasn't going to do it anyway but like well i don't know if they made him a great guy but i think they made him a little bit more sympathetic too though in the way that he is just unable to he's on the fringes of sanity and I mean I was shocked that they actually made him this sympathetic though because instead of just make you know and turning him into like you don't want to be this person you know you don't want to like ever glorify what this person is doing and with his his pain and his loss yeah but who's going to do that this character's been around for 50 years nobody's gone out and started shooting

people. Well, you don't, okay. Well, you don't want to, you don't want to put him on a pedestal then. But doesn't he only kill like really bad guys? Yes. So why not then? Because there is, there was definitely a, look, I mean, to deny that there is, there wasn't an absolute response from Marvel to the Punisher being adopted by whatever, it's not

realistic. You know, they did everything in our power to neuter him and not make him what he was because of who liked him. Sure, but if you're going to make Manucci and do that storyline, like, I don't read Welcome Back Frank and be like, oh, Punisher's killing a bunch of good guys. Like, the Nucci's a scumbacks. Like, they went so far, Brian, that like, it wasn't enough. So Manucci tells them, they're spoilers, but nothing really major. But like, Manucci's like, hey, I'm releasing your address and I'm putting a bounty on your head, right? And so everybody comes to this building that he lives in to get him.

And it's not enough that these people, like they can't just be like people are trying to kill the Punisher so he's killing him back. Like while they're looking for him, they have to beat the shit out of the little boy, try and rape his mom. Like it's just like, it's like, they're just like, here's, let's make every single person that he kills as completely evil as possible. Everybody's twisted mustaches. Yeah. Well, what is it that you want him to kill? You want him to kill guys who are on the fringe of not deserving, like. No.

Good enough. I don't think it. What is it that you're looking for in his kills? Like, what, like, do you want them to be like, you know, like, oh, they robbed, like a white collar crime? Does that, is deserving of the punisher, stamping them in the jugular or crippling them? Yeah, they are. Well, then, yeah, but that is, yeah, that's a re- Okay, right, but let's take that out of it, right?

I agree that that, like, they're not going to enter that. But, like, the Nucci family was the fucking Italian mafia. You're telling me, you can't tee off on, on, like, just have him mowing down scumbags in shark skin suits left and right. I think they showed that he did do that, though. They showed in flashbacks that that's all he was attacking. And to me, this sets up, like, because he's looking, he wants to commit suicide in this.

I thought this was incredibly dark and so like Disney fucking like put Mickey in the fucking closet put a thousand locks on it and we're like you're not getting out until this is after this is getting released because he goes I cannot believe how bleak it was and how he was going to kill himself at his daughter's grave. He was going to shoot himself and he keeps seeing hallucinations. And again, spoilers for those I didn't see it. But by the end, though, he realizes that he has a purpose now. And that he's going to not just kill these guys in shark suits and the mob.

Everybody's fair game now. Everybody, anybody who fucks. White collar. No, no. No. Oh, just badgers. Well, you know, anybody, anybody who fucks around. They find out.

They're going to find out. That's what I got from it. that I thought that was also insane because you just spent a decade telling me, like kind of distancing yourself from this attitude of the Punisher. And now you basically set up as like, all right, this is it. That's why I'm shocked at you didn't like embrace this because like, okay, he's like, okay, I'm not going to kill myself. I'm just going to kill every scumbag that I fucking see.

Great. That should have been the first scene in the fucking, for me. Okay. I took that journey with this, with this version of the. character with this actor playing him, I've taken that journey with them three and a half times already. Like, I don't need him to reset to zero to learn that he wants to kill scumbags again. Like, scene one, he's in the suit, he's walking around alleyways, he's blown away scumbags. That to me is what I wanted.

Well, I think they set that up because that's the punishment you're going to get from now on. I don't, I don't have any faith in it. I was so convinced. I would have bet everything that at the end, they were going to cop out, that Disney was going to be like he's going to come to his senses. and he's going to be like, okay, I'm going to take down perps, but I'm not going to murder them. I'll take it to the fucking as close as I can to the edge of death, but I will not kill them anymore. I really thought that's where we were heading. And I was like, holy fuck, it's not.

He's like, I'm still going to kill him. I'm just going to kill him in the name of, like, of victims. Yeah. I'm not the only victim. Which again, like, to me, I would have even. accepted that more than a nut look and kudos you're dead right the violence in it when he gets going is insane it's like he's putting shotguns in people's faces and like blow him away and like so so i don't mean to say that they didn't fucking nail certain things of it but like i didn't need the

the journey that you liked walt i did not like i'm like i already wanted i wanted the punisher we've already dealt with that over fucking so many years already like give me the shark that moves forward. Give me the guy who is already accepted that, because in the comics that's not what he is. He's already like I never should have had a family to begin with. He's like, this is what I do.

This is what I always did. This is why I went to Vietnam. This is why I went back to Vietnam three fucking times, even though I had a wife and kid home. I volunteered to go back. Because this is who he always was and he never should have had a family to begin with. Now you release that guy in the streets. Now he's going after the

Russian child fucking traffic. Now he's going after the new cheese. Now he's going after, you know, you don't want to have him go after angels like they did in Marvel Nights and shit like that. But like he's already fully formed. I don't fault anybody for looking at this and being like, oh, I love everything they got right. But to me, it's just still doesn't feel like the Punisher yet. It does not feel like the Punisher or my version of the Punisher, which is Garthennis's version of the Punisher. Are they just, are they just since it's the first episode, are they just setting up for people who are unfamiliar with the Punisher?

there's only one episode it's a special oh that's it oh it's a one shot I think it kind of leads into the new Spider-Man movie because he's going to be in it okay so I think he's going to be I imagine it'll be that again that kind of torn

from Peter Parker will be having to be forced to work with the Punisher but not agree with his methods you know at which every hero has that conflict when you when you kind of mosey on up and all of sudden you find the punishers also involved in whatever situation you're involved in. You have to

have that kind of like the wag the finger. You know, I don't, you can't do this, Frank. You're not a, you're no better than them, Frank. If you kill them, Frank. You know, I'm sure we'll get that from Spider-Man, but I don't think it's going to stop. I really, yeah, for me, this felt like a, like this is, you're getting on the, getting on the parkway now. And you're about to fly about a hundred miles an hour. I think the Punisher's going to be just this killing machine that you're hoping to see. Yeah, but he's he's that on a ramp has gone from the Daredevil second season to the two seasons of the Punisher through another season of Daredevil through this, but like how long is this fucking on ramp man? Like at one point do we get on and just start it's been years of this guy.

And again, I like the actor. I like his take on the Punisher when he's not fucking crying. Well, don't you see the daughter, the little girl he saved in the restaurant, don't you see that as the metaphor for like him realizing that like there's other daughters out there and I can and I can help them, I could save them. He doubt, I think he now considers himself a hero now. Yeah, but that's wrong for the Punisher too. But that, but I'm not saying that the public or or the other characters in his world will see him. But he doesn't consider himself a hero. He doesn't.

He never has. And the pun. I think in this version of. of the Punisher in the Disney MCU, I think Frank Castle will consider himself a necessary force to help people not become, you know,

not to become victims the way his family did. Almost a heroic way he's going to do, a character. It's a valid read. It's just not a read I want for the Punisher. For me, you know what I mean? mean, it's like, it's not my take.

You want this cold, clinical, yes. Not, unemotional robot. Yeah, but he's not because even when he goes to rush at it and he finds that little girl and he saves her like, he fucking destroys everybody because she reminds him of his little girl. It's there.

It's all there. It's just, and again, like then the little girl fucking bright, like he goes into the fucking deli. He beats the shit out of these fucking guy, one after another that comes after a piece of shit. He kills him.

Yeah. And then this little girl. comes up to him who watched it all happen, who watched the father get beat to shit, who watched the father's delegate get trashed. Like comes up to him with this big smile on his face and hands him a rose. Not a real rose, like a cardboard,

like a piece of construction paper. She made North class. Yeah. And she's like with this big smile over our face, she's stepping over dead bodies to give him this rose. And I'm just like, come on, man. I agree with that. I agree with your level of like, come on.

But I'm surprised that the fact like only 10 seconds. earlier. He literally stabbed that guy in the face 17 times. I could take that little bit of cornyness to kind of play and show the audience what clicks, I think, in Frank Castle's brain when she hands him that. Again, only seconds earlier he was exactly what Hugh was looking for. Right. Now, did the Punisher kill her father or her relatives? He saved the whole family because this...

Oh, saved her family and killed the bad guys. It killed all the bad guys. Okay. Yeah, like her father owned the restaurant. Oh, all right, all right. And he's being attacked by a group of thugs and everything. And all of a sudden, some guy comes in and punish her literally stabs him in the face 17 times. Yeah.

And Q's like, this sucks. It's not violent enough. It's not, I tell you what, it's not. You've got to be sensitized, I think, bro. The whole neighborhood's trying to kill him, right? the whole neighborhood and the cops can't get in the neighborhood there's burnt cops cars on the street and the whole neighborhood he beats the shit out of this one guy

he stabs him in the face 17 times and then for some reason which has never explained the entire neighborhood just stops hunting him because they're all dead they're not all dead they're running around the background I don't think I think a lot of what's going on all that rioting in the background

is not is people who don't know what's going on and taking advantage of it that's why there's only a certain number of assassins or guys who know what the hell is going on, but I think the whole neighborhood is so ready to explode into lawlessness anyway, as they show earlier, that as soon as they see all this fucking crazy chaotic violence going on, they're just like whipped up into a frenzy and partaking it as well. Yeah, but it doesn't track because then why were those guys attacking the diner? They were just looting?

Yes. Okay, so what about all the other stuff? stores that were getting looted. Punisher just walked right past them, just go to the diner. He didn't spare a bullet for anybody. Well, you don't know in the aftermath because it's a couple days later, or seemingly it feels like time has passed where he shows up now and he's got the skull on and he and he kills people now who treat, who commit crimes or victimize people. I think that's what he's going to be looking for. If you victimize somebody, you're toast. I love it. I can't wait to watch that. I would love if they had replaced every scene where he had tears in his eyes with him

fucking going after someone and killing someone for fucking around. But again, I, kudos at Disney for the violence for even using the Punisher character. I like the actor. I like when he is the Punisher. I like the Punisher. Let me ask you something. That like 10 minute action sequence where he was like kicking ass through the building. Wouldn't it have been better if he was in a fucking Punisher shirt instead of a hoodie?

it's how weird how we think similar because I thought that too He's dressed up like a normal guy Yeah he's just in his normal civvies Because he's being attacked But I really thought to myself I thought that for a second And then I realized like Wow he's really

The only character that I can abide by And accept not wearing that costume And still And never feel like I'm missing something Because he's not wearing that skull outfit But how cool is it When they showed him in the outfit? Yeah

Later on. To me, like, to me, like, the fact that Disney was like, we're going to give you the punisher that everybody wants, even though for the last five to six years,

we told you that's not the punisher anyone deserves. Like fucking Mickey pulled down his pants and having a fucking major heart on instead of a fucking vagina. Right? I love it. Right? That's what I think he pulled. Like, I thought for sure he was going to be like,

I vow never to kill again. That's what I thought was going to happen. I thought Mickey was going to pull down on his. red shorts and he's got to have this big fucking pink pussy and like this is the punisher you get but instead it was this throbbing fucking massive fucking hairy cocker boner yeah it's full of testosterone yeah it's like leaking it's pre-cum yeah you're right you're right about that i i i have no argument there i was impressed by the violence i was impressed that they're even using punisher i just i just think if you're going to touch manucci in that storyline just just

do the story. You felt like you felt it deserved to be fleshed out more, her storyline? I think that should have been it. Like, I don't need him crying. I just don't need him crying in a room for 20 minutes. I just didn't want it. Didn't need it. It's not, you didn't feel like it was disturbing at times of just how, like, on the, like, just on how on edge he was with reality and everything. It is such a, it is such a, like a sobering first half of a show, though. I would rather they make Frankencastle than give me what they gave me. You understand?

Wow, what a take. So much of him was in the fucking room by himself crying while ghosts yelled at him. I'm like, what is this? Why am I watching this? I'm watching this. Get him pulled up the scene of him getting stabbed in the face 17 times. It's pretty violent. It's pretty gory.

That's why I was like, I thought for sure, like, like, like, Q would have, I would have thought I heard the woo from Staten Island from my house. And I didn't hear it. And I was like, now I know why I didn't hear it. I was sitting on my porch going like, man, I can't believe that. I ever heard that. Woo-hoo. I guess Q didn't like it. He's just, he's, I love the character too much to, to, to gel with this version of it.

Okay. This is my thing. All right. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but it's not. of those things where I'm just like, you're fucking idiot for liking it. And that's not the punishment. I'm just saying, I love what, I love that they made it. I love they did it.

I love all the violence. I love all of it. I'm just, it's just my version of the punisher isn't that that punisher. You know what? Know what I wish he would do instead of where even over wearing the skull. I wish he'd shave. Yeah. I thought he was going to shave in the end when he came out.

Yeah. Like, I don't like, I don't know if I like the punisher with a full grown beard. He's clean-shaven, right? Or like a 5 o'clock shower or something? Yeah, clean-shaven or grizzled. Yeah, it was a Marine. He keeps himself in fighting shape. Yeah, hopefully.

I'm watching. It looks like a mountain, man. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I think he's a great actor for it. I love him in the role. Like, visually, he's fucking, in the end shot when he's got the gun and he's staring down at you, like, and he's got that, and they made the skull so blazing white.

I was like, that is fucking awesome. Now start the show. Yeah, is where I landed on it. But I don't fault anybody for liking it. I get why people are into it. Has it been well received? I don't know. I only watched it last night. Okay.

Yeah. Well, maybe you'll get what you're looking for in the Spider-Man movie. I doubt it. You're so cynical. It's like they're not going to have him blowing away fools. Like he's definitely using bean bags or whatever shit in this. Oh, well, well, well, shut up. I was like what you want him is like, again,

what you want him to be blowing away like. Shoplifter, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you stole a can of soup? Hungry, are you? There's a great,

there's a great scene, right? In the comics, it's a great scene where somebody tips them off to the, some low level scumbag, tips him off to a drug deal going, a major drug deal. And he goes to the fucking drug deal and he blows everybody away, kills all the drug dealers, right?

And there's a pile of fucking heroin on the table. And he tells the guy that gave him the tip, like, I'm going to fucking, you know, he didn't say thanks for the tip, but he's like, you got it. Like, get out of here, punk. And he leaves, right? Punisher leaves. And then the scumbag comes back and he looks at all the drugs and he picks up his phone. And he's like, I got a line of some heroin.

We're about to be rich. And the Punisher's fucking hands just come out of the darkness and snap the guy's fucking net and kill him. That's the shit I want. He hasn't even committed the crime yet. No, he told the guy, get the fuck out of here. I'll let you live. And the guy came back right to be like, I'm going to sell the drugs and punish him just kills him. That's the shit I want.

We're not getting that shit. Preemptive strike. Or there's a scene in fucking where this little fucking guy beats the piss. I mean, beats the fucking piss at him. His face is all lumped up. This isn't Garth Ennis's run. His legs are broken. He's all fucked up.

And then the guy that just beat the shit of him smacks a little girl. And Punisher just. just gets up fucking bloody broken bones and just beats the shit out of the guy that was like just housed them fully for 10 minutes. I'm like, that's the punisher I want. That's the punisher I want. I never felt like this guy was that guy. I think emotionally though that like you physically beaten up in the comic book, but I believe

he was emotionally tortured in the Disney show. Right. And he dragged himself up at the end to be. come in his eyes now the uh the uh the victim's heroes victim's hero so we have two paths to the same ending right yeah and one of them involves an awesome fight against some little guy who's fucking kicking the shit out of him and you think he's gonna get the other involves him crying in his room for about 25 minutes before he goes to his foot toward his grave i'm just saying like what journey do we want to take to him being the punisher that's all i'm saying

But again, I love that they made it. I loved watching it. I love the violence. I love that actor and the role. So, you know, I'm just kind of fucking, you know. Did you watch the new Daredevil? I'm being precious about it. I watched the first few episodes.

And I am in a finish yet. I just haven't finished it yet. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's fine. It doesn't sound fine. It doesn't sound fine. It's fine.

It's fine. Is everything okay, honey? It's fine. It's fine. I feel bad for the people who can't see Q's expression. No, it's good. It's good. I like Daredevil.

I do like Daredevil. I do like Daredevil. But like even the Punisher series, remember the second season when he had like a teenage girl that was his sidekick? I didn't watch it. I ever saw it. All right. So the Punisher is one of my favorite characters all time,

and I didn't even finish a series. Because they team them up with a teenage girl running around, and she's helping him solve crimes. I'm like, I don't understand this. I think that was an era where they were like, you, like, there was like a mandate. You can't have the Punisher beat a Punisher. You're right.

You know, so, but I think that that fucking mandate has gone away in a dodo bird, if it feels like to me, anyway. Yeah, he does stab that guy 17 times. You're right. You're right. I'm not, I'm being overly emotional about it, I think. It's okay. How do you feel about his growling? It didn't bother me at all. Yeah.

You? It bothered you? It didn't bother me, but it was, it was really noticeable to me a lot in this. When does he growl? Like when he's killing people? Yeah. He's like, br-ha. just making these gutteral noises which I don't mind. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just...

And then what about that scene where he falls off the roof? And it looks like it was fucking the worst CGI I've ever seen. I, when he landed on top of like the air compressor or whatever the fucking thing was it? It didn't bother me. Hey, get him. Could you pull that? I see if you could find that. Yeah, I had just seen it the other day, too.

Yeah, that didn't, uh, I didn't not notice anything. thing out of the ordinary. Sounds like you were, this may be like he wasn't at the wedding. He was so upset by the Punisher. He couldn't make it out to a guy's wedding. I think that, uh...

I've considered several different possibilities. Never thinking that would have been one of them. Here we go. Okay, okay, let's say. Yeah, to me that doesn't look bad at all. They should have like cut it like a half second or early. Yeah, like before he. He's like floundering around on his back, kicking and stuff.

Otherwise, it doesn't look too bad. Yeah. All right. Like I said, I'm just being nitpicky because... Because it's your guy. He's one of my guys. Yeah, he's one of my guys. And Manucci, for anybody that's listening to this that doesn't know, just go read,

Welcome Back, Frank. It's, it's, she is fucking awesome character. And in this, she was like, she's just an old braud in a wheelchair, man. played by Judith Light? Yes. What's up? Played by Judith Light. Yeah.

Played by Judy's Light. Which I don't mind. Judas Light actually isn't bad casting for it, but it's like she just sat there and yelled in him. He didn't punch a polar bear, Walt. Like in the Manucci's storyline, he punches a fucking polar bear just to piss it off. So it kills a bunch of fucking Italian grease balls. Give me that shit.

I just don't know if that would have full. Like, the atmosphere and the tone, I just don't know if you could introduce a polar bear into that fucking episode and not have people go like, what the fuck is going on? Just to punch him. He falls into the enclosure at the fucking Central Park Zoo into the polar bear enclosures. And all all these Italian mobs says come after him. And he just fucking decides to whack a polar bear in the face to piss it off. And then the polar bear tears all the gangsters apart. It's like fucking awesome, man.

But yeah, I don't know. Some people listening are going to agree with me. Some people will not agree with me. And that's all. A little bit of spit coming out of the polar bear's mouth. Yeah, it gives a polar bear a good smack. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. But he's got the battle van in Spider-Man. I'm happy about that. That's cool. I didn't know that. But yeah, that's good to hear. In the trailer. Yeah, he's driving it.

And Spider-Man lands on the dashboard of it, I mean. Anyway. So I liked it. I didn't love it. Let's put it that way. So anyway, factor. Yeah. I'm not passionate about anything in my life.

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I literally mean it, Walt. Like, when I watch the first season, the new Daredevil and he's not even in the suit for half the series, I like Daredevil. I'm not a, I don't, I don't feel about Daredevil the way that I feel about Punisher. So I'm able to watch that series and be like, yeah, I love it. It's great. Charlie Cox is great. The show's great. The fight scenes are great.

I don't compare it. I don't have something in my heart that I'm comparing it to. You know what I mean? Right. So you have Don't have as much affection for that character as much as the Punisher So you're able to digest a different version And it's not offensive to your

What you believe the character should be Right That's it So I can roll with anything And even with the Punisher like I could roll with Cosmic Ghost Rider I can roll with Franken Castle You know what I mean?

Like I can roll with these things because Like, even though I love the character, I'm like, look, it's comics. Let's do goofy shit like this from time of the time. I love it. But, uh, so that's why with Daredevil, I'm like, no, I like the show. It's fine because I don't have that deep, deep love. Yeah, emotional attachment is not, they are as strong as it is for Frank Castle. Correct.

Right. Right. I think that's, that's for me, like when Superman came out and, and I didn't really like it, but I wasn't like the last Superman. I forget what it was. called? Was it, it, didn't have a subtitle? I wasn't Man of Steel. It was, uh, no,

it wasn't just, wasn't just, uh, I don't remember. Yeah, it's just Superman last one. It was just Superman. Yeah, I got, since I, I, I don't have this real strong, super emotional attachment, it doesn't bother me that I, that, that it sucks, you know? I'm just like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

That's what I was thinking about while we were a shilling factor. You got to keep your mind on these sponsors, dude. I know, I know, I know. You're right. You're right. Sometimes that's all I think about. Yeah. So a very big weekend last week, the Jimmy and Michelle wedding. Yes.

Mm-hmm. Q, you couldn't attend. You had other obligations. I was in Los Angeles. Walt, you eventually showed up. I did. And Teddy. And Teddy.

Yeah, let me just real quick. Like, I thought that when Walt got there, he showed up around like 8 o'clock or so. Yeah. About 8 o'clock. I thought Walt was going to be the big hit. Like, holy shit, he actually came, which there was some of that. But the biggest hit was, I mean, people could not leave Teddy alone. Yeah, Teddy was getting really weirded out at a certain point.

There was so much attention paid to him. There was one kid who was like, he would not leave him the fuck alone. He was like, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy. I guess if you're a kid at a wedding, it's so boring. You guys, a dog? An introduction of a dog is just like, oh, my God, thank God, something. Yeah, something happened. My dog showed up.

Yeah, so we got there. Me and Mary Beth got there. We had an Airbnb with Frank and Mary 5 and Troy, which was really nice. Those people are really fun to hang around with. I love Frank and Mary. Obviously, I love Troy, too. But I can see why you want to go on trips with that. They're very easygoing.

Very easygoing, very fun. They're funny, like, hanging around with them. They're good, good people. Yeah, they're great. Love them. Let's see. Frank didn't bring a jacket. Or an umbrella.

Or an umbrella. I thought he was wearing a jacket when I got there. He was, but he had to go to Walmart and buy it. And he bought the thinest cheapest possible jacket. And it's like, it's like 45 fucking degrees out. That's Frank. I mean. He gets annoyed when I throw a little jabs out.

He's cheap. Oh, yeah? Every time when he steps up. It seems like, yeah, he goes to the cheap route. It's like it rained and you could see his nipples through it. There was a caterer who like, he was the guy he cooked like the, you didn't see it well, but he cooked this giant pig. I mean, you saw it get him, right? I mean, the thing was like, what, 400 pounds or something?

It was huge. Yeah, it was a big pig. Yeah. It was huge. And we walked by and Mary Beth goes, oh, I don't want to look at that. And he heard. It was at the head on it still? Head was on it still.

She mentioned that she didn't want to see it. This guy went full bore, no pun intended. Full bore into like, you want to hear about pigs? Well, first he was like every woman that walked by, he would be like, you want to see my hog? I know Jimmy's going to be upset because this is a very good buddy of his. But this guy was a fucking moron. He really was.

You liked them too? I wrote that lined out. I had it to my repertoire. Oh, did you? You want to see my hog? Well, you have to have a pig next. order to do it. Get him.

Please don't add that to your repertoire. Yeah, I think that's a bad idea. Okay, okay. But he launches into this, like, anti-pig diatribe where, like, pigs are bad. If you put a hand near them, they'll eat it. If you put your foot near them, they'll eat it. They're horrible creatures. No, all I've heard about pigs that they're smart.

Yeah, they can cry. We saw baby. Yeah. Yeah, I saw, babe. Yeah. Yeah, pig in the city. Yeah. Stick a punish your fucking shirt on that pig.

But this guy, and you missed this too, Walt, before or at the, sort of like at the end of dinner, but before the cake showed up, he goes into this full on like, hey, everybody, listen to me, like in front of everyone. Like the whole. The center of the tent. The center of the tent in the reception, he goes into the same thing, the same speech about how pigs are awful and how they will.

Was there a lot of people who, maybe, did he feel that people weren't enjoying the pig? It was delicious. I didn't get that feeling. Like, was it a lot of the pig left at the end of the night? Well, he did complain that people were eating too much shrimp and not enough pork. Well, there you go. That was one of his beef.

I didn't see shrimp. Yeah, there was like a little shrimp for the tacos. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, to put them on the tacos. But I guess people were taking the shrimp instead of the pork. And that seemed to set them off. And I mean, I wish, did you were, you didn't happen to record it. Because I didn't know he was going to go into this.

No, no, no, no. I think I saw like one picture of it. I'm not sure where it was. But holy shit, man. Like, if I was Jimmy, I would have been like, like, all right, guy. All right. Let's, let's move on with the, with the, with the anti-pig shit. Enough with the fucking, like, pigs will eat your hands.

Enough of, like. Let's he trying to rally people to be like, I fucking hate pigs. Let me go fucking eat that motherfucker. It really seemed that way. Yeah, like, you didn't eat enough pork. Like, let's fucking, like, like, villainizing? the pig would have made people want to eat it more? You know what?

That's not a fucking angle that I would have considered, but it sounds smart to me. Yeah, fuck these pigs. Give me a taco. Yeah, exactly. I could not believe it. Like, I was just like, the dude had definitely had main character syndrome.

To quote a recent, like, a thing that people are saying. You didn't appreciate it as, like, dedicating the head of the pig to the, to the bridal couple? I'm sure that that was something they were into Jimmy and Michelle but no I think for most people it's horrifying

for him to be holding up a pig head and being like this is for you guys It is the most delicious part of the pig though He carried it over to them Yeah like that's what Barbicot is made out of right Like the skin the cheek of a pig Evidently the most tender part of the animal And he carries this the fucking head of the pig up

In front of everybody to the couple And then just you know tells them that the skin of the cheek is the most tender part. Did he cut it off right then and there? I couldn't see from where we were sitting. I'm not sure. It was definitely, I just sent you guys to picture. It was on a platter, like especially made platter that he put right in front of the

bride and groom on their table. But to me, the funniest thing about this main character guy was that I found out afterwards that I guess he didn't have people to help him, like prep food and wash dishes, like he didn't bring anybody with them. So Justin Kyle and the wannabes are pressed into service. Like literally all day Saturday, Justin Kyle is prepping food, chopping up salads, making, you know, chopping up the pork, I guess, washing dishes. Like he sent me a picture on Sunday morning.

He's like, he's like final stretch or something like that. It's a sink full of fucking pots that he has to wash. And I'm like, what a fucking great guy. I'm going to say, that is pitching and do that. That's why he's being an ambassador. I guess so. Yeah. Yeah, even had his ambassador patch on.

That is, like, so, like, he, how did he, how did he, how did the caterer know to ask him, though? I don't know. I mess with maybe he asked Jimmy, and Jimmy was like, hey, these guys are here. They'll probably help you. Oh, you know, I would have fucking liked to get in that kitchen and fucking do some fucking. Do some pot washing. You know, like, this way, like, I don't have to have that awkward feeling of those people come up to me. I'm like, oh, hi.

Right. Hello. It's just you and your pots. So Jimmy's married. huh? This is great. Doesn't Michelle look beautiful? What time is it?

Oh, only three hours to go. Like as I talk like a robot. Right. But you know what? Like thinking about it now, like if I was at your wedding and you're like, dude, man, like the guy fucked up. There's not enough people to wash pots. Can you help me out? 100% I'd be in that kitchen washing pots.

Yeah. You know? So I guess maybe he and Jimmy are better friends that I was aware of. But like this guy really should have brought more people with him instead of just him. instead of just him. Like, you should have predicted that. Well, I mean, yeah, shit happened, so. Yeah, I guess so.

Teddy was a big hit. What else I got here? Michelle gave me at the end of the wedding. She gave me a big hug, and her strap popped on her dress, and her heaving bosom nearly presented itself to me. But remembering that she was a married woman, I carefully averted my gaze. Oh.

I was proud of myself. What a gentleman. The gentleman had mentioned it on a podcast. I just want everybody to know what a great guy I am. I don't know as premonocta for a second. Let's see. What else do we got? Gidim's new look, which was really weird.

Yeah, what did you think of Gidham's new hairdo? They can't really see it. Oh, you didn't see it? Jimmy sent me a picture from the wedding. Let me look. Of the group. He sent me a group shot. You can look up now.

Look at your. screen. Okay. Oh, you buzzed the head, huh? Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. It looks all right. Oh, I see the monk thing.

Oh, yeah. Oh, you look good. This is from, this is a character from Deep Space Nine. Now, this is a character from the next generation. Next generation. Q brings them to Sherwood Forest and they make, data becomes prior talk. So, no kidding, Q. So I had my grandson's first birthday party that afternoon

of the wedding. So I when that wrapped up, I was able to drive up to the wedding. So they were well into the wedding by the time I got there. And as you know, there were requests for people to come in

not costumes. What do you call? What did you call? She said embrace whimsy. Embrace whimsy and people were dressed as characters from movies and like Jimmy was the Joker for the Nicholson Joker. Yeah, they had like, one guy was dressed as swear engine, one guy was dressed as Beetlejuice.

One guy was dressed as Jimmy. One guy was dressed as Jimmy, yeah. So I came as the Baron. Oh, really? That's fucking cool. Me and Teddy, Teddy was not in costume, but me and Teddy get out of the car. Within the first five minutes of me walking in there, I'm looking around, I'm seeing some people dressed up.

And I'm talking to, I think it was Rupp or Chuck. I don't know who it was. I was talking to or maybe it was Frank. And I look over and I'm like, wow, look at some of these costumes. And I see some guy, he looks like a druid. Like he's got the long robe on and he looks like Fryer Tucker or whatever. But his face is all white and everything. And I said to the guys, I'm like, who the fuck is that guy?

What's he supposed to be? And they look at me with his face on. They're like, what are he talking about? And I'm like, like, who is that guy? They're like, let's fucking get him. And I was like, what? I go, he looked so sick and fucking ill. You know what I noticed?

Because his face is all white. His eyes looked like two little dark coals. Like they were so small. I can't do contact lenses. I would have done the old lenses. Yeah, I was absolutely blown away. And I was like, that's get him? I had to hear the voice come out of the fucking person to finally be like,

to have my brain like, settle. on. Oh yeah, it is get him. Right. I'm looking at him right now. I'm seeing him. I'm seeing Chuck as Mr. Moneybags, I guess. Yeah. Walt here, breaking into the show for a very special announcement. It is with great anticipation and excitement to reveal that in the June, July, and August cycle of the TESD patron, for the select few who are in the bullet, Bulldog and Adamant

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Are you going to stick with it? I'm not sure. it's it's it's it's it's it's weird it's like feeling the you feel like debris more and everything who who was Tommy Lincoln supposed to be again oh Tim Curry from the worst witch from the worst the worst the grand wizard I felt so horrible he came over to me and he shook my hand and he goes and he like kind of like presented himself like what do you think and I was like and I was like oh dude you're rocking that shit you look just like that guy from Sailor Moon I said and his face it and he said and he He didn't laugh for anything.

He goes, yeah, yeah. And so he looks just like the guy from Sailor Moon. The male character. I don't know who his name is. Oh, I thought you meant Sailor Moon herself. I was going to say, a lot of gay guys dressed him up like Sailor Moon. A lot of overweight gay guys to be specific. No, there's a dude who wears a tuxedo in Sailor Moon.

I don't know who he is, but I thought that's who, and that would have been the era of the guys who might have been into Sailor Moon. Right, yeah. It would have been Tommy Lincoln's age. And then I felt so bad when he was like, no, no, I'm not the guy from Sailor Moon. I think I offended him. Really? Yeah, I felt bad. Tuxedo mask.

Yeah, that's the iPhone. Yeah. Pull up a picture, a tuxedo mask. No, am I wrong? Yeah. Like, he's just wearing a tuxedo and a cape. Yeah, he looks like Tommy Lincoln. Tommy had the bat around his neck and everything.

Yeah, I could have, I would have bet the far. I can see why you'd make the mistake. I would have lost a lot of bets this weekend. I went all in on Q-Lykin, a punisher. I went all in at fucking Tommy Lincoln was the dude from Sailor Moon. And that weird fucking pale-ass druid

was not get him. Pastels and Tim Curry. Yeah. I don't know. But it was good. I did the, so,

Brigh, Frank, Troy, they got, they blew out of there, man. They fucking didn't see the end of the party. It's too cold.

It's like 45 degrees out. It's, it's, just got done raining. The whole place is muddy. We've been there for what, six hours at this point? I was like, yeah, I think I'm done. I think I'm done. We're wearing a suit jacket and everything. All I'm wearing is a one layer of a monk's robe.

What was hysterical? It really cracked me up. It was like, Walt shows up, you know, and we hung around for a little while. And then we said, you know, our goodbyes to Walt. And the next morning, it's early. It's really early. And Frank goes to me, he's like, are you going to go to the brunch? And I said, no, I don't think we're going to skip the brunch. He's like, really? Because Walt's going.

I was like, what? He goes, yeah, he stayed over last night. And I'm like, what? And he goes, yeah, he said that he wanted to go to the brunch. So he stayed for the Fago Armageddon. And then he and Teddy were staying overnight. And then he was going to the brunch the next morning. And I was like, so you think that Walt Flattigan, after all his friends left,

is hanging around for hours afterwards to see the Fago Armageddon. And not only that, a guy who's on record is saying he hates sleeping anywhere but his own bed. He's going to the brunch and he's like, let me text him. He won't be up at like 7.15. Because I text. I got home when I was driving home from the wedding, I got home and Frank asked how it was. And I was just being like, I was just doing a joke. It was like it was so awesome.

I decided to stay for brunch. I'm sleeping in one of the cabins I wrote. Assuming that there's no way on the planet that he thought I was serious. 100%. He's such an innocent. I was just like, oh, poor you, Frank. Well, Jimmy, Jimmy told me that you took part in the Fago on me. I did.

Oh, you actually were there for that? Yeah, I stayed to the Fago. I went over to partaking it. I had Gatim Hold Teddy because I don't want Teddy getting sprayed with soda. I was worried about getting hit in the neck with a bottle or something. So I walk over there, and there's one of the wannabes can attest to this. I kind of got a little bit on my hand, a little bit, a little bit of spray. and then I see, like, they set up these strobe lights.

It was like, yeah, like, RGB strobe lights, yeah. Yeah, they set in this little patch of green land, you know, in grass far from the tent, they set up these strobe lights. And there's like, I don't know, about 50 people in almost like a mosh pit. And they're going to start spraying them with the soda. So I guess when the liquid goes in the air, it looks cool because of the stroblights, the different color stroblights, there you go. And it was like, it was like slow motion. I just see a full, like, three-liter bottle of soda just go about 20 feet in the air.

And it is coming right towards me. It was like something out of like NFL films. You know, when the ball's just in the air forever. It's just hanging in there. You're just watching it? Yeah, just watching it. And I'm like, oh, my God, that's going to fucking hit me. And I moved out of the way and it hit right at my feet.

Now, it wouldn't have probably knocked me out. But if it hit me in the face, it probably would have broke my nose, though. And I got to know, why the fuck would somebody do that? You're at a wedding. Why would somebody throw a full three-liter bottle, 20 feet in the air, not knowing where it's going to land? It could land anywhere, including hitting someone right in the face. Right. Like, what would happen if you weren't paying attention?

I would have been injured, I think. The first rule of Fegogaden is pay attention. Second rule of Figo getting it. Yeah. And so I said, I turned to the guy and I was like, all right, that's, I think. the universe is telling me it's time it's it's time to go home right and it's i got i walked over i got teddy and it's like tell jimmy congratulations i'm out and i just left yeah with all the fagobie armigan was still going on yeah before i left i seriously considered taking tom to a men's shelter

if you had seen the way his wife was going after him oh is right tom milosheesheeschi i want to have her on the show okay he was going after her so she was going after him so hard like he goes over to do something. She's like, well, why you're over there, make eye contact. Well, no, I think the question was, there was a guy who a friend of Jimmy's known as hater. Right. And the question was, why is he hater? Why is his name? Oh, he was going to walk over there and ask him. And she's like, this is podcast, Tom. I don't live with this, Tom. Like, this guy, you know, podcast Tom is outgoing, ask questions. And she's, this is not who I live with. Yeah, that's what she said. She's like, well, you're, you're different when you're

with your podcast buddies. That's what she said. Yeah. So, so. Tom kind of lets it hang all out. Right. He lets it all hang out with when he's with his podcast friends. Yeah, evidently. I do that too, though. Like when I go to family events and everything, you know, I'm not like the gift of Gab or I'm talking to everybody. Mickey has a vagina.

Pussy. Is that a goofy laugh? Yeah, I'm very reserved. and nobody would ever think that I talk, let alone people pay to hear me talk. Is he functionally you? So, yeah, I get it. Yeah, like I feel that is common, I bet you, that Tom, when he's at home, isn't as vocal as he is when he's on mic. Right.

You know what I find interesting is I have to cut myself on a. have to do this show. Like I tamped down on my personality. Really? Yeah. How come? Because I would have been canceled 30 times over.

I said, are you kidding me? We're only getting out of this, punish your thoughts. Shit I was saying before we came on air is a real me. So you feel like you have to. to, like, subdue the real cue on Mike. He ain't the only one.

People would really hate me. Yeah, I feel I have to, like, ramp it up. Because if not, you know, you can get a test. I mean, we go for, like, six days in a row and, like, not as syllable as spoken. Just grunts. Tell me a punisher. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah.

Yeah, I would like to have her on just to see how different he is and have him on to defend himself. Do you think she would come on? I don't know. She seemed pretty open. She was very friendly and talkative and stuff. So, yeah, she might come on, especially if it's to rag on Tom. Maybe we could do another newlywed game. Oh, that would be interesting.

It's not a bad idea. That would be fun. Yeah. I almost saw Natalie in all her glory. another yeah a chuck's girl yeah like there was a unisex bathroom and somebody was like okay come on in and so i i don't know why they said come in because it was only two stalls and they were both taken did that stalls have like separation like it like not like that steak house it wasn't like the steakhouse but i guess natalie's in one and so i assume that the other one was open so i but i accidentally

knocked on the one that natalie was in she goes i'm in here kicks the door open for some reason and she's sitting there on the bowl. Wow, you've got a lot of action. Every time I turned around, another woman was like, check me out. So you saw, like, that's like one of the most personal things you can do. Right. You think even Chuck has seen it? I don't think so.

I think it's me and then maybe Chuck. Maybe. You feel like you're in a special club when you catch someone on the toilet, don't you? I didn't see anything, but it was still just as good, I think. Oh, let me tell you what happened to Key West. Yeah. Yeah. So the wedding was nice.

It was really nice. You would have thought we know the marriage of two jugglos, it would have been a bit more. I was, that's why I went with the face paint. Crazy. I was expecting way more face paint. Yeah, it was a bit. Like to make up because Jimmy didn't do the full Nicholson Joker face paint. I was, I was picturing there would at least be some juggalo face going on.

And when there wasn't, I was really, I was really surprised. I was, I was not surprised, but it was nice, but it was a very, it was much more traditional wedding than I would have thought, considering that those, you know, the jugglers have such a reputation. Right, right. Yeah. You know. Yeah, there was one guy, I think, one guy that was like trying to start a fight that black dude. Frank told me that he was, he was very aggressive with people. And I guess he was drinking, he was carrying a bottle around with him.

I didn't notice. Yeah. I was drinking, too, so. Okay, yeah, I wasn't. That's what Frank said that he was more aggressive than, say, the rest of the people there. No one really gets aggressive towards a monk's self. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Holy man. There was axe throwing. There was archery, yeah. Yeah, I missed all that. Yeah, there was like a thing where you put a candle into a paper boat and set it afloat. I'm not sure what was that supposed to symbolize. I have no clue. Yeah, I don't know.

I didn't, I was tough to get down to the lake for me because Oh, right, right. Walt, you wouldn't appreciate this because you don't know, but Richard Christie was the efficient. He, uh, yeah. I was so happy to see him, man. I'm sorry. I was, I was sorry to miss Richard.

He's a great guy, man. Yeah. What's he from? Uh, Howard Stern Show. He's a regular? He's, uh, yeah, he's a regular. He's, uh, he's a writer and, uh, he's on screen to, uh, how did Jimmy swing net?

Uh, because I texted Richard. Yeah, I texted Richard. Yeah, I texted Richard and I said, hey, would you be interested in doing this? And then I put him in touch with Jimmy. Oh, nice. Yeah. Great dude. Yeah.

So I'm going out to lunch with them in the city pretty soon, so I'll text you and we'll set it up. I'd love to come. Yeah, sure. He usually goes to Big Slick, that charity thing I do every year. So I'm hoping to hang with him. I'd love to go to lunch. All right. With him.

I went to lunch with him and Sal a few months back and we were talking about you. So it'd be great to get us all together. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. What else? I have to, I got, they used to call them bifocals. now they call them progressives so you don't sound as old

but I'm not old I had to I went to the eye doctor and I had like the bottom part is going to be for reading and then the top part is like you know so I can see a little bit of a distance like they're not that bad how come you can't do the LASIC anymore

I think I could but it's just not as effective you know because your eyes are too old I think they're too old plus you get it done once and every time you get it done it's like they take a layer of skin off so it's like

I think it's like it becomes more not dangerous, but that comes with more risks. What kind of risks? Like blindness? I think, yeah. I think you go blind. Is that too big a risk? Ah, kind of, yeah. I thought about it.

Like normal seeing eye dog. Yeah. But that ties into something that Gettom told me that people on, people on Reddit are like saying I should shave my head because I'm that bald at this point. No, I don't get them. No, not get them. I didn't say people on Reddit. But go get them. Like, shave it like Gettom just. I guess so, yeah, go get them. But I'm like, I got hair up front. I got, like, my wife is nice to me.

She's like, oh, it's thinning. No, it's not. I got a bold spot. I can agree with that. But to say, like, I should shave my head at this point, look, I'm tall, so a lot of people don't even see the top of my head. And if they do, what do I give a fuck? Why would I shave the rest of the, like, the hair from the front looks fine, I think.

Your hair, if you grow your beard a little bit, you could, like, maybe even, like, curl it. Push it up, yeah. Or, like, comb it over to the back. in my head. Look, it's almost reaching. It's getting there. A little bit longer. It looks like, who's that dude from Fugger, Bib Fortuna?

Yeah, so it was this photo of because they got them from behind. And they're like, John should go to R. Bald. Oh, yeah. Like, like... I want to see these motherfuckers. I want to see what they look like. I don't mind if you post a, like, a picture.

or a comment about me that's negative or whatever, but post a picture of yourself along with it so we can all see what the fuck you look like. And if they're not there yet, guess what? You're going to be at some point. Someday you'll be 58 and be like, I shouldn't have made fun of Johnson. Now look at me.

But then I showed him and I posted the pictures of me going bald and I posted it to R-Bald. And I was amazed at how positive people on Reddit can be. It's crazy. That's crazy. I don't think I've heard one positive comment about me on Reddit and like it was just he's reading these comments just a string of fucking like you look great way to go get him you look like a sexy Viking all this other shit and a lot of

people don't even know who I am you know does that do anything for you what those comments a little really it does it's it's yeah just strangers making those comments you don't know who made them but like the fact that you read them helps your psyche a little it's positive now it's just just general positivity like you know it's just like it's like you know staying next to a warm fire. Like, you just feel that warmth. And it's like, okay. Really?

Yeah. Okay. Definitely better than strangers are like, put your hair. You look fucking bald. Dickhead. Definitely better. Why don't you do like? It is, but you're putting this kind of validation on from strangers, you know.

And I'm just saying it feels like it feels nice like when you're standing next to a warm fire. Like it's just nice to feel positive. All right. I don't get that that often. Like when people are to, you know. Well, if you threw some. it away. Maybe if you got some positivity around here.

But yeah, it's strangers you're looking at you and just telling you, hey, you know what? You look good. Yeah, it looks nice on you. Okay. I, uh... I guess when you do this, like, massive transformation, you kind of need that. You know, you look like... You look like... You look like... You look like... You look like...

If you changed your demeanor and your voice was not so corny... Like, it's... What are you like? You know? And if you had like a more gruffer voice... No one would fuck with you out. You're like more of a growl. Like he looks like somebody that you wouldn't want to fuck with, right?

No, definitely. But then when you see him walk and he could barely fucking shamble an inch. Right. So I don't move. If you don't move and don't talk. Just stand there stoically. I mean, you're the epitome of a victim as soon as you talk and move. Yeah, like if he were to like, they like stationed him outside the club so no non-club members got in, just like with his arms crossed in front of him.

Yeah, he would look pretty bad ass. Yeah, he would. He looks like a hell's. Yeah, look at you, yeah. But if you're like, you can't come in. You can rock that shit. If you start telling people, you know, you see these two front teeth that are missing, you should see the other motherfucker.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's what you want. People make fun of you for not having the two front teeth. That's what you got to do. Ain't going to be making fun of me anymore. Well, yeah, again, got to work on the voice, though. Okay. Yeah, that sounds like a fucking animated.

Maybe a Frank Castle growl. Sounds like an animiac. Frank Castle growl? Yeah. Brer. No crying. You would sound cooler if you had one of those cancer modulations. leaders.

What happened? Oh, I listened to Walt. I was like, I was thinking about you, Walt. You know, I was like, should I go into New York to do this? I fucking really don't like going into New York. But you know what? Walt's like, you know, you got to get out of your house more. Do more stuff.

That way you'll have shit to talk about. So I saw this serial killer exhibition in New York. Whoa. And I was like, it was downtown. So I'm like downtown, I don't mind going to as much as like midtown. So I'm like, all right, downtown's not so bad. I'll go down there. And I walk in and the first thing is a bunch of like pictures of the serial killers.

And there's no like, there's no information beneath them. You're just supposed to like, it's just like these are good, the guys you're going to learn about. But as I'm starting to go through the exhibition, I'm like, it's a lot of reading, which I hate in museums. It's a lot of like these placards with like, okay, this is about David Berkowitz. This is about John Wayne Gacy. Not crazy about it because I'm like, I know, I've wanted to do this. I just sit home and read Wikipedia. I don't need to come here to read this shit.

but what really fucking burned me was that okay I'm like okay here's the artifacts here's like the the phone that they used here's a gun that they used nope here's a gun that's similar to the one that he used and it wasn't even similar the guy used a 22 there was a 357 in the fucking display here's here's a here's this that was a replica of this here's something that was similar to this and that was all it was I knew every single serial killer knew all about them and the replica shit I was like, you got to be fucking kidding me. There was no murderabilia, no, like, actual artifacts or anything. I would not recommend this.

If you're a newbie, you don't know anything about serial killers. You might be into it. But if you know, like, even have a passing interest in serial killers, you're not going to enjoy it. What do you think about that, Doug? That startles me that there is actually an exhibition about something like this. Doesn't this glorify and give exactly what you don't? Like, the message is, if you're a good enough serial killer, you may get in a museum one day? that is fucked up

you might have people coming till you that is insane when you think about it you literally have now people going to see an exhibition about the worst people on earth it's like that to me blows my mind like isn't that at the absolute

the wrongest message you can send well I guess then you wouldn't be learning about Hitler you wouldn't be learning about this guy or that guy Like anybody who's evil, you would have been learning. But like it feels like it's a, come on, man. How much did they have to pay to get in? 30 bucks a person. Yeah.

Who's that money going towards? I don't know. To tell you the truth, I'm not even sure. It's not going to the serial killers. I know that much. But I guess these are people who set this up. Yeah, it's like it's a business. So they're profiting off of it for sure.

Whoa. That blows my mind because that is absolutely, there's some really fucking broken people out there who fantasize about shit like that. If I kill enough people, you know, I'll be a David Berkowitz and maybe I'll have a wing in the fucking... Dedicate it to me.

In the museum of natural born killers. I don't know if like... That's pretty good. The possibility of being in a museum is enough to tip someone over to killing. You don't think that they want that fame? There's a certain level of... No, I do.

But I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, think some of them do i think most of them would like not to get caught right isn't that better for them for the most part but some people like btk almost want to yeah they want that recognition yeah they want they want to be the best considered one of the all-time bests in the field of killing yeah but i just think the problem is the psychopathy not the fame fucking like you know if anything's going to make them start killing people it's going to be the fact that they get a hard dick when they kill people you know not that they might be in a shitty museum in Manhattan in 20 years.

They do say that in the papers all the time, though. They're like, you know, let's not, let's not, let's talk about the victims, not the killer, you know, like when these spree killers go, you know, like mass killers and shit. Don't mention their names. Don't mention their name. Don't put them in the paper. Yeah, could you imagine the relatives of some of these victims, that they ever get at when that there's a fucking an exhibition about the person?

Who killed them murdered or loved one? If it's not glorifying it, if they're like, you know, I see what you're saying, but, you know, If they're not like, this is fucking awesome, come check out these kills. You know what I mean? There's a scoreboard. Well, of course, they're smart enough not to glorify it, the people who are running this and profiting off of it, this exhibition. You know, at least they have enough sense not to do that. But look at what they're doing, though.

Like, they don't have enough gusto to get any of the real items. So they're like, you know, we'll do. We'll just get fucking props. Yeah, that's all they were were props. And I was just, I couldn't have been more disappointed. I was like, I wanted to see, like, the guy's real tie even, you know, or something, something that he owned, something that he touched would have been like, it's historical.

Oh, yeah, there are a fair amount of people. I mean, I wouldn't say it was packed because it was like midday on a Wednesday. So there weren't a lot of people there. But like more people than I thought would have been there. How long has it been running? A couple weeks, I think. I think it has a couple weeks more. Hmm. Yeah, but disappointing if you're, if you have any, even a passing knowledge of serial killers. Disappointing on so many levels. It's disappointing on a fucking human level. I guess so, yeah. But I mean, I guess it's just like, like you says, it's like it's just historical at that point.

You're not really like glorifying them. You're like, or though, you know what? If you're saying like, hey, you will get into, you could possibly get into an exhibition if you kill enough people or you're like you're well known enough. Yeah. Yeah, but you know that they're like true humanitarians aren't, you know, no one's fucking setting up a wing. with fake props to to to um to drawn weirdos well you know they're they're not you like it i mean mean it's a morbid thing i mean that's why i mean id channel is is is basically you know a testament how popular it is right yeah i have a morbid curiosity i get it but it's all women you know you

know those shows are like yeah it's all women it's like 80 75% 80 women uh that watch those shows why do you think i wish i knew florence nightingale effects you, I could have, I could have fixed that guy. My love, my love could fucking fix, could fix fucking that psychopathy. I don't know. Maybe it touches the same thing that touches harm. Not that women can't love horror movies.

That's not what I mean, but like, maybe it's, maybe it's something that touches, it's like a safe scare in a way, you know? Maybe. Yeah, if you could, like, live it vicariously. Yeah, I don't know. But it is, it is wild. Like, although, because I know some people that work at those channels, the ID channel, or.

work on those shows and they're always they're like it's all women it's they make those shows for women which is crazy i'm reading a book right now called uh the invention of murder and it's all about like murders in the victorian age and it's crazy how into murder they were too like i thought this was a relatively new phenomenon where people like you know because of the id channel and uh discovery and all that shit but no it's been going on for centuries that people people are super into like other people getting killed, going to hangings, like the public hangings before they stop them, like thousands and thousands of people, going to a hanging of somebody who is probably innocent. Like if you read their case, you're like, oh boy. The judge knew the prosecuting attorney. So it's like,

hey, I guess you're guilty. Salem witch trials. Sailing witch trials. Yeah, perfect example of people that were innocent. But, you know, they get swept up in that mob mentality. Oh, man. Did you watch, have you watched? What the fuck is that show? Mystic Bay. There's a horror comedy show now on Apple TV. Fuck. I, shit, I can't remember.

I shouldn't have brought it up. It's good. It's like third episode in, but there's a great line about the witch, whether they should have shown them around the town. And they're like, yeah, this is, this is where we burned witches. We got them. Like, it was so fucking funny. Widows Bay. It was the total opposite when I thought it was going to come out of the woman's mouth.

He was like, yeah. No, we got them. We got to witches. I was like, oh, it's pretty funny. I never heard that joke before. It was great. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know what the psychology behind women loving that shit, but it's true. They do love it, and it is made for them. Yeah. I don't know. Did you start reading Dungeon and Corolla Carl? Did you start getting into it? As soon as I finish this book, that's my next. Yeah, it's my next book.

The new one just came out. I heard it's comic books are now coming out with him. Walt, it's going to be fucking everything. It's going to be comments, TV shows, movies, He's like, this guy's got a legitimate phenomenon on his hands. It's weird, though. Like, I looked online and, like, they only set, like, I got the first one in soft cover. Everything else is hardcover.

That's because he published it first. So I think that they, he's working that, like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not that bad. It's like it's 20 bucks for a hardcover, so it's not crazy. No, it's fine. I think if you have Kindle, like the Kindle Prime or whatever, they're free.

You can just download them on that. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm 20% through Book 8 right now. Oh, man. Oh, man. It's so fucking good.

Oh, wow. You've been going, huh? Well, it just came out, so I've been reading whatever I can. Yeah. Great opening scene, right? With donut and that fucking bitch talking. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That is awesome. Yeah. And then, Walt, I started reading Starman. Did I tell you this? James Robinson Starman again? No. Yeah, you're rereading it? Yeah.

It's even better that I remember. It's so fucking good. That was a good one. Yeah. I don't know. That's what I've been. doing. How'd you celebrate free comic book day? You know me, I'm not a termite. I don't like to go to the stores during, look at Teddy

digging it's that couch. Trying to get a blue choo wrap around. I was going to say, yeah. Which is not for you, Teddy. Yeah. You didn't go to any stores? No, no, that's for the termites, man. Going, going to free compil day. I don't need that. Did the, uh, the want, not wannabies, what is they called the, uh, uh, the, uh, the want to bes, what they call the

what they call the amateur hour yeah amateur hour yeah but it's good no it's if it gets kids in the store to look at other comics

and not buy them Walt has experience with that you're right you're right I don't know what I was thinking termites all right anything else that was it for me

I don't think I have anything no I don't know why this keep Are you ready friends are coming in next episode what's that bud Oh yeah next episode John and Matt. Yeah, we got we got

John and Matt coming in to ask all the newbie questions that people might have for Tell them Steve Dave. Finally we're doing our issue zero of telling Steve Dave. I'm very excited for this. Yeah, I think it'll be much easier than when we tried because we were just like

well this is how it's stop. Fuck it. Go back and listen if you want to know for fucking 10 years worth of fucking material. But yeah, this is really good. I'm sure they'll ask all the right questions. people will be caught up. They're both very sharp, very funny people, so I'm sure they're going to make it entertaining.

Yeah. All right, so that's it. It's it. All right, Q, you got anything? No. No? Well, fucking, you know, what do I got to do? Starman.

I'm reading it Starman again. That's it. That's all I got. All right. Tell them, Steve, Dave.