Ten Thousand Losses - Anti-Chop Aktion

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

Tom & Liam get a bit serious today: they cover the Tua traumatic brain injury and the insane disconcern Miami's head coach Mike McDaniel shows towards it, celebrate the Phillies making the postseason for the first time in 11 years, hate on the Braves for the racist-ass chop (and ESPN's glorification of it), then answer some voicemails and DMs.  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod  Leave us a voicemail: 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses 

accused of punching a police horse cte cte cte those negative fans make himself vomit you gotta think the fanatic's gonna go down to her and give her a bunch of hot dogs or the snowball starting to come they'll do us but they won't let anybody else do us and fuck and we're blood god damn it dude yeah so we just recorded a bonus uh it's 6 46 uh yom kippur has finished as far as i'm concerned uh can you can you eat now were you fasting i'm i'm gonna yeah yeah i feel fucking hostile uh oh yeah that's it that's how you know it's good um yeah yeah we have we uh kind of we're gonna do kind of a weird episode here um i'm liam anderson that's tom payne both

our pronouns are he him we're doing this sort of under the gun we don't have an outline written uh we have three main things to talk about today we want to talk about it's gonna be sort of a an unusual episode in that there's a topic that's bothering both of us which is how the dolphins and the nfl writ large handle concussions um we'll talk about that we will talk about the triumphant philadelphia phillies who are back in the playoffs we'll talk about our mutual hatred for the braves talk about ben simmons for about 30 30 seconds and I play some voicemails this is kind of a be a

downer of an episode frankly so yeah this is our we're not doing just a sports recap we're going to talk about I guess labor and what it means to play football and what it means to get hurt at work and have people basically call you a pussy for getting hurt at work

oh yeah I love that shit fucking yeah i love that shit too love it yeah all right you want to i know i said we'd start with the fills you want to just start with tua uh at least have something good uh yeah real quick real quick i just want to say you know you are listening to a thousand losses we already got the pronouns um and do do call in voicemail 267-371-7218 give us your name and pronouns at patreon.com slash 10,000 losses I didn't want to do any of that I want to make sure that we have voicemails we've got to keep the content

feed pumped go into the content minds let's talk about Tua how do you say I can't ever say his last name Tua Tagovail, Tagovailoa? Tua Tagovailoa. Tagovailoa.

Tagovailoa. Yeah, or Tagovailoa. Tagovailoa. Tagovailoa. So for those of you who don't know who Tua Tagovailoa is, or what happened, so Tagovailoa is a quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. And on Sunday, I believe Sunday,

the 25th, am I correct to say that? Yes, in a game against the Buffalo Bills, he is knocked out. He is knocked out of the game. He gets up awkwardly. He goes to the locker room for a, quote, concussion check, and I say that shit in quotes, and cleared to return to the field. The

Dolphins claim it's a back injury. He's clearly fucking concussed and they say get out, get back out there champ. Four days later, it's Thursday night football. We should talk about that for a second actually. We should talk about how fucking ridiculous it is that the NFL makes these

guys play two games in four days. If you're doing Thursday night football, you should have, you should have a fucking buy. Yeah. That shit is suicide. And I actually want to call out Sherman specifically, uh,

who, when he was a player advocated very harshly against Thursday night football and said, Hey, they're running us ragged and this is going to destroy our bodies. And now he collects a paycheck to comment on it. I think that's pretty fucked up personally. Uh, i get that you need a check and i get that you're not you know making money after your your football career is hard don't fucking do it like

that man you don't have any fucking credence if you're saying shit like that uh but so on thursday right he's sacked by josh tupou of the sedetti bangles he lies motionless on the field for several minutes he's not sacked he is whipped into the ground he's whipped yeah i saw that he literally is thrown yeah so he gets tackled and then from from using his mid torso lower you know like hip area as a hinge he is whiplashed his head directly first into the ground. So the back of his head, which is a career altering hit,

if not a career ending one usually. And we're actually lucky that he's not dead right now. We really are. And that kind of back of the head, that's the worst place to get hit is the back of the head. It's the part of the brain that's not protected. The brain stem is vital. And he comes out of that hit doing the fencing response.

His fingers are fucked up. They're all curled. That's not normal. That's a sign of traumatic brain injury. Right, absolutely. On national fucking TV on Thursdayursday night four days after concussion there's no there's no excuse there's no reason he should have been playing no i will say that the doctor that said he was fine to go has been fired as he should be

i would say the the the players association doctor right yeah and he should he should be. I would say the, the, the players association doctor, right? Yeah. And he should, he should not have a job anymore. No, it's clearly you can't fucking do it. No, you know, we're, we're talking,

these guys are, and I'm not exaggerating. These guys are putting their lives on the line. You can get killed playing the sport. Yes. People have, people have, people have been killed playing the sport.

And not, not just back in the day when it was leather helmets. And when theater Roosevelt was talking about wanting to have it banned because it was killing all these young men uh it's it's you know i mean how many times how many ways it like every three years we get a kid who dies in uh training camp and notice how that only happens in colleges and that's usually from dehydration, and those coaches should be shot. You're talking about kids. So I want to say some fucked up stuff. Not some fucked up stuff, but I want to quote some fucked up stuff.

So Miami head coach Mike McDaniel, he's not letting his opinions keep it up at night. Whoa, everything's reactionary anyway. So if people want to give their opinion, whatever. If I'm spending time thinking about that, let's say Monday night for five seconds, that's five seconds that I'm not thinking about all the other things that relate to the team in the upcoming game.

The Dolphins are under investigation by both the NFL and the NFLPA about how they handled this injury. I will say he was also allowed to fly back after the Cincinnati sack because if you want anything with a concussed brain, it's pressure changes. Miami,

it's what they did with RG3. It's what the Skins did with RG3. They tried to fucking kill him. And then they blamed him. This is a career altering hit. One of the things I want to talk about is how Tua Tagovailoa should talk. And one of the things I want to talk about is how to attack. My lowest Hawaiian played at Alabama. He is a marquee player.

And if this is how they handle fucking marquee players, quarterbacks, how are they fucking handling linemen? How are they handling tight ends? Like these guys, these are the guys that fucking kill themselves at 40. And everyone says, well,

how can we see how can we have seen this coming? We fucking did see it coming. Yeah, we knew this. The game is fucking dangerous. So what? So I want to talk about what the NFL and the NFLPA are doing. They're now putting in new protocols for concussions so that if you have gross minor instability, i.e. if you see a player fall down and he can't get up

they can't return yeah so that's terrific but like why was he allowed to fucking play in the first place there's no excuse for it i mean there's no excuse for it yeah how do you how do you you see you see someone who cannot control their hands right right you can't control their extremities which is a clear sign I mean we're not doctors but that's a fucking sign of TBI like that's a clear sign I think we probably both had concussions at the very least yeah yeah

played the sport yeah yeah I know what it's like to get hit hard and see stars and you're kind of like a woozy the I see stars and you're kind of like a woozy the I it's malpractice clearing that guy it's

organizational malfeasance on another side you know I just I'm lost for words like how you actually fucking clear somebody for this well the coach has basically has basically claimed that he just didn't have a concussion. Yeah.

McDaniel maintains that there are no indications that Tagovailoa had any concussion symptoms leading up to the Bengals game. And, you know, this he to him, like he doesn't give a shit if the dude is concussed or not. Yeah. Suck it up, go play. Suck it up, go play, suck it up, go play. And I will say one of the things we should talk about is like, there's a lot of pressure internally on these dudes to play from

themselves, from their teammates. Like you don't want to let your teammates down. You've been coached from the age of three to not let your teammates down. You know, you see guys playing hurt all the time. Stafford played with lacerations.

Ertz played with, Ertz played pissing blood in the Eagles. The last time he was on the birds and played the playoffs. Stafford played with lacerations. Ertz played with, Ertz played pissing blood in the Eagles. The last time he was on the birds and played the playoffs. Like he, and I was like, Nope, Nope. No,

I'm not like, what's he going to do? That's his job. You know? And if you, if he sits it out, someone's going to call him a fucking pussy. The dude's pissing blood from a lacerated kidney and still like suiting up.

And like we, as fans applaud that. And that's fucked up. Like we have to also examine our relationship with these guys, with these teams, with these these owners, with these coaches who don't give a shit. You know, you fucking think Belichick gives a shit that Mac Jones hurt. No, of course he fucking doesn't. Yeah. And what you do is we idolize guys who've played through injury like, oh,

Phillip Rivers played on a torn ACL. That's not good. Terrell Owens had that broken leg. McNabb, the broken ankle. You shouldn't play sports with a broken bone. You shouldn't play sports with a broken bone you shouldn't play sports with a traumatic brain injury you should you should be resting you should be getting medical attention

it's not i mean is it is it tough and gutsy on the player's part fighting through that that pain does it show a lot of like mental willpower and strength sure but it's it's it's a fucking sport at the end of the day it's a game it doesn't mean anything in the in the in the in the scheme of the universe it doesn't matter like why why and these kids like you said are indoctrinated from birth to think that like okay this is what makes me a good player good teammate i'm gonna i'm gonna be the hero and then i'm gonna shoot myself in my fucking van when i'm 40 because i i can't like i can't i can't i can't think anymore and i i can't get dressed in the mornings right you know yeah i mean these and it's not and it's not just football players but Junior Seau killed himself at 43 because he had CTE like yeah that guy was a linebacker and like he went to USC and

like he was a six he was a six-time all-pro actually I think a nine-time all-pro he was a Pro Bowl 12 times like the dude was a fucking legend and it was just like you know we talk oh what a tragedy it's like they fucking know better like yeah yeah get out there and play we we got we got your contracts to fulfill we've got um advertising we need to show um and you know and and you know but let's play the sad the sad uh uh break music right it's, oh, we'll step away. Yeah, we need to be respectful. Yeah,

exactly. I mean, fucking Mike McDaniel, coach of the Dolphins again, absolutely doesn't fucking care if Tua is basically, as long as he's not dead, he doesn't care.

You know, Mike McDaniel, what? You get in there, hot shot. You know what, buddy? Why don't I pick you up

and throw you like that? See how your brain responds. Okay, bud? Yeah, let's responds. Okay, bud? Yeah, let's whiplash your back of your skull into the fucking ground and see how you like it. By the way, he played wide receiver at Yale.

Oh. Oh, I need him alive. He graduated with a degree in history. He's 5'9 and 180. Both of us would fuck this dude. My left ACL is basically a rubber band at would fuck this dude. I have my left ACL is, is basically a rubber band at this point. Yeah.

I have, I have a shoulder made of crab meat and I still feel pretty good. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I'm, I'm fine.

I'm, I'm fine. Uh, taking this dude out. Yeah. Whiplash your fucking head to get like, it was such a violent injury. And like I said earlier,

like I'm surprised he's like, he's, he's not dead you were paralyzed um yeah sincerely Carson like Carson Wentz like my whole theory is like his brain is fucking scrambled like he keeps he sucks now he sucked ever since the

clowny hit like I've been I've always been a Carson Wentz hater but he didn't and Antonio Brown after the Von Tate perfect hit yeah it could absolutely change your personality. It could change everything. You are your brain. You are your personality.

I'm sorry. I don't believe in mind-body dualism. It's the fucking, you know, so sorry if you're, Rene Descartes listening to this. But, you know, you change your brain. You change who you are. And it fucks you up and again all and at the end of the day what does this break down into it breaks down there because it's it's one a culture

to money but the culture like is encouraged by those who have the money right you know because that kind of attitude is really cool for um owners, because that means that, oh, well, my players are going to I'm going to get more value out of these guys. They would otherwise, you know, exactly. You're trying to extract them for capital. Exactly. And, you know, you don't fill the seats if your team is playing its backup. Like, right. Right.

And yeah, you have a less chance of doing as well. Then yeah, you don't sell as many tickets and you don't sell any concessions and they bump you into the one o'clock game, you know, all this shit. It's, it's just disgusting. I'm it makes, it really does. And we've mentioned this before, like, like questioning, like being an NFL fan, you know, it's hard and it's getting harder by the fucking day,

dude. You know? And like, like the Eagles are very good right now. And then they're four and oh, but it, it's sort of, you know,

Hey shit. Yeah. Great. But they're playing this sport that really does like kill you man it's a really bad if you have kids don't let them play don't let them play football no you know i'm not letting my kids play football i saw tom brady was gonna let his kid play quarterback and i was just like maybe you focus on your imploding marriage instead guy yeah which

is funny because he's actually worth less than his wife i do want to talk about too like all these players have basically come out of met like there's game like bro i just read an article on yahoo two hours ago that bro was like yeah there are halves and games i can't remember the dude is 25 years old he's five years younger than i am yeah like they can't remember games like and there's times like where aaron rogers played that game maybe two seasons ago where they clearly injected him with a painkiller yeah and he comes back he's just out of his mind at the end of the game is this fucking worth it dude like well part of the part of this is that is is some of these guys got real hooked on opiates

because they were using those to play through the pain in the offseason. And they were also victims of that whole overdosing opiates as well. And it's not normal to not remember things that you were doing like you know like that it's one thing i would imagine a football player basically remembers every game that they played like it's not that they're not that many of them um i i remember the majority of the games i played i remember i remember most of the baseball games i played like but um to to like yeah the next day wake up and be like shit what the fuck happened last night like you fucking blacked out drunk exactly and that's that's terrifying he's 25 years old dude

like yeah yeah the brain is a quivering ball of fat and i would just and that could have had like dudes like hernandez like where it's like yeah okay no I just I got nothing man I just it sucks watching it sucks hearing the league yeah give this the shitty defense we've heard a million times that sucks

listening to Mike McDaniel not give a shit if his player lives or dies like sucks watching a hit like that psychopathic psychopathic behavior from mike mcdaniel like legitimately you you you sound like i don't know you sound like someone who would have hanged in world war ii for for crimes yeah that kind of shit well i can't be distracted man shut the fuck up can't be distracted he's 25 he's 24 years old that's a fucking shut up and he's your kid and

he's your kid he's your kid qv1 yeah because you the coach you're the head coach you're the fucking uh you're you're the guy in charge of these guys you're this you're these dudes later dude basically like and you just to hear that shit is absolutely fucking like i'm like on the verge of angry tears thinking about it yeah everything's reactionary anyway shut the fuck up dude i used reactionary wrong it's reactive you dipshit

what's that yale education even worth fucking yale dumbass oh i go to club where we have a skeleton and sometimes we fuck connecticut was a mistake Ooh, I go to a club where we have a skeleton and sometimes we fuck. Connecticut was a mistake. You're not wrong. New Haven pizza, my ass.

Absolutely fucking horrible at his job. Yeah. He does not care. He does not care. He truly does not care.'s he should not have a job imagine talking about that about people who look up to you like as a as a father figure imagine imagine if rex fucking ryan if rex fucking ryan of all people is asking would you put your son back in that game yeah rex fucking ryan is asking that shit you put him back in are you fucking kidding me yeah nah dude get the fuck out of here well fuck you man

like bill belichick is like coming after him and shit like that like you it's the same shit if bill belichick is saying and bill belichick and harbaugh and all these guys are saying that nah dude you're the asshole bill belichick's like I don't care if they cleared him if I saw a hit like that I'm not putting him back in I don't care if that medical staff cleared him I saw if it didn't pass my eye test I'm not letting him play it's like Jesus Christ that's the voice of reason is is is the Sun Tzu of of uh football you know, cause he's one of those psychopaths too, but yeah, it's just not in that way,

I guess. Cause he knows that the players are important, you know, he's aware of that. Right. He knows that if, if they are dead, he can't have a winning record.

Yeah. These, these, these fucking helmets don't do shit. Um, and it's, and it's not just the big hits. It's the constant low contact over time. Every NFL player has some degree of CTA.

You do regardless. Yeah. I mean, I have, I have a little bit, I didn't even play them, but you play more than I did. So that sucks. Like just, Oh, and then all the news is like, Oh, well he was he was uh on the plane the next day uh cracking it up watching uh i saw that shit and it made so fucking angry oh he's fine he's having a joke we watched a movie together he was laughing at the jokes yeah what the fuck is that that's what we got that's what we fucking got i just like that that like like like like the when i had the third time i had covid i had to go to the fucking hospital and just be like

coming back well you know we we thought that tom almost had he might have had like some some heart damage but the next day he was uh you know he was watching uh he was watching always sunny philadelphia and he was giggling so everything was fine everything was fine what the fuck does it have to do with anything you don't really need much of a brain dead you don't become brain dead like you're just fucked up a little bit no you're no because if in 30 years he's going to be like you know he's going to be sitting down watching a movie and he's going to be staring in the middle distance and forget where he is you know his family's going to be like what the fuck's wrong at least they laugh together

at least they laugh together at like what Step Brothers or whatever the fuck it was whatever shitty movies they got on planes these days I don't know it's genuinely what would you do to Pete Rose's dick yeah what you would do to Pete Rose's dick um

yeah uh what would you do to to uh what would you do to Mike Mike McDaniel's uh dick yeah

yeah or his brainstem or his brainstem we're not we don't care because apparently it's fine

it's fine guys get hit on the head all the time oh fuck out of here Jesus Christ he's probably been hit on the head a couple times it's probably how's fine guys get hit on the head all the time oh fuck out of here jesus christ he's probably been hit a couple times it's probably how you get into like the the the merry the merry uh folks who made a river the fuck the clubs are at yale they're you know where you read shakespeare then like you know i'll jerk off on the biscuit together with the bush with the bushes yeah with the bushes yeah yeah all right

let's uh let's let's talk about the fucking fills i don't know i have to talk about the fills my head's gonna explode uh yeah i i'm gonna have to splice in the audio of me uh screaming enjoy one cat has already left the room winning's not easy Winning's not easy, Tom. It's not easy. He's repeating, one cat has left, the other cat is remained. Heflin's got his signs. Rubito sets up outside. The three-two pitch. Swing and a fly ball. Pop up.

Center field. Coming on is Marsh, still coming up. Got it! Yes! Woo! Woo! Yahoo! so the Phillies are going to be in the playoffs after 11 fucking years

thank God for these expanded playoffs because we wouldn't have made it in otherwise and sorry thank god for these expanded playoffs because we wouldn't have made it in otherwise and uh still winning yeah it dubs a dub and uh aaron nola you know what's funny is like i text you a potential history alert and then as soon as i hit send he gives up he gives up a run and you're like you're saying what so it is my fault question mark yes yeah yeah it's my fault um how would you do this it's the fault of the guy who did the uh perfect perfect game score bug you'd never do that look listen it's it doesn't actually do anything i know that i'm it i don't

believe in god either like come on like i don't believe in that but it's a tradition it's a fun tradition you't believe in that, but it's a tradition. It's a fun tradition. You should stick to it. Like that's a fun tradition. I was explaining it to Corinne. I was like, they're leaving Nola alone. She's like, why isn't anyone talking to him?

And I was like, don't fucking talk to the pitcher. If he's got a pitch, a perfect game. Yeah. Never fucking, never fucking talk to him. You'll leave him alone.

She's like, I never do that. I was like, yeah, you just don't talk to him. Oh yeah. Yeah. That is taboo. I was and I was saying

to Kurt that's honestly probably my favorite weird thing in sports it's just this guy's on the verge of greatness you're like nope don't even fucking look at him shit don't fucking look at him knowledge is existence and you know baseball's got like like you know

they got the one where like if you're if you're a rookie you hit your first home run everyone like goes back into the clubhouse so you come back to the dugout it's empty like i like that one too baseball has some good stuff yeah there's some fun fun ones and yeah it does it doesn't make a difference but it's a fun it's just fun tradition it's like baseball doesn't have enough fun so it's like it's like lying the kids about santa claus right it's fun it's fun it's a it's a rite of passage it's okay um i'm not gonna lie to my kids about santa claus you're gonna tell them straight up uh dude i'm actually gonna fuck with them uh i've said this before i think but all right so the kids are leaving santa right fast forward to their sixth christmas

they come down the stairs they're all excited they forward to their sixth christmas they come down the stairs they're all excited they're they're matching christmas pajamas you know there's cookies baking it smells amazing there's candles burning you know the whole house smells like christmas the decorations are hung the stockings are hung the the halls are are uh decked. Yeah. And they come downstairs to Santa Claus hanging there like Mussolini. And the man who killed him is Hanukkah Harry. Fucking got him. Got him, kids. Six separate tyrannies. six opportunities Bobby why is

why did Santa Claus have been shot by a PPSH or whatever it was that's you know why it's six shots for each year he was he was lying to you oh man I was

I was four years old and I figured it out and i'm like i was raised jewish yeah it's like can you take can you take this can you take a picture of him she's like he's too fast for photos i'm like that's not possible because the speed of light like i had already figured all that out and she's like uh tom just don't tell your brother all right thanks mom um i told the christian kids at school uh because one of them was bullying me for for not getting santa claus so i went in there and told the little child that santa claus was his parents that his parents didn't actually love him that was the first time i got sent to the office and my dad was like he did nothing wrong santa Santa Claus isn't real. What's the problem?

The kids are not obligated to hold kayfabe for the other kids. Like, that's not a, like, fuck that shit. Like, nah. Let them figure it out. Because that's, there's a certain point. You're seven, eight years old and you haven't figured it out. It's not real. That's, oh, that's.

That's tough. Yeah. Probably see a childhood psychologist. That's, oh, that's, um. That's tough. Yeah. I see it. Probably see a childhood psychologist. Yeah. I am like I one of the things that's actually pretty common among kids with like intellectual disabilities is like they can't distinguish real from fake. And the lower they are, the harder it is. And it's actually it's actually

really tough like like for when you have to try to explain to a kid that like batman's not real like right and they love batman more than anything and like but you have to you have to try and make that distinction and it right it does suck uh but uh for all the other kids uh ruin that shit for them yeah it's yeah if you can't figure it out by four or five come on guys six seven at the most figure that shit out because if you're in fourth grade going like i can't believe i can't wait for santa claus it's like dude we're learning about william penn this year like yeah come on all right we're learning about the walking purchase and how they bamboozle the little nappe like we're not doing santa claus anymore that's tough but yeah uh so yeah speaking of speaking of hopes and dreams phillies yeah they uh so they're gonna play the

cardinals um the game all in st louis the 207 p.m fucking yeah 2 2 p.m fucking game uh sorry uh i i saw you um francis francis said some made some shit post about you but yeah uh yeah whoever loses i can't have a red or powder blue uniforms anymore so uh philly's been away because i've been talking a lot of shit uh i i bought nlds tickets um so i'm an idiot did you yeah i did all right good luck yeah they're uh it's i bought game four too so if we beat the cardinals and we get swept in three games by the Braves. I will laugh at you. I'll get my tickets refunded, though. That's true. But, oh, yeah.

$65? Are you fucking kidding me? That's not bad. Some other people said, actually, that's not too bad for cheap seats. Like for the $25 seats. No. Because I'm sure those shits at Yankee Stadium are like $200. uh, for cheap seats, like for the $25 seats. Yeah. No. Um, cause I'm sure that shit,

those shits at like Yankee stadium or like 200 bucks. Oh, at least. Um, yeah, but yeah, so, uh,

yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to make sure this one goes out a Thursday so, uh, we can talk about the fight, you know, go watch the fight and support the fight. And,

uh, get those poles greased. Um, I don't think we're going to go very far, but I hope that we beat the Cardinals at least. That's good news. But speaking of the Braves, I want to say something about the Braves. They're your favorite team, right?

I hate the Braves. Yeah. Talk about it. Let's talk about Chop, dude. Let's talk about this bullshit. All right. So the mets and played a pretty fateful series of the braves uh where the mets got swept and hey yeah uh and the braves basically took it all but at that but this was sunday night all but took the national league east

and they finally clinched it today but um the braves the ns sorry the espn broadcast was showing them doing the chop now they had spoken for those who don't know the chop is a fake native america champ chant and they do like a fake tomahawk chop kind of thing and uh you can look it up online and listen to what it sounds like. They stole it from the Florida State Seminoles, who also stole it from Native Americans. Well, at least to the Seminoles credit, they actually bring out a member of the Seminole tribe. And the Florida State Seminoles athletic department has a licensing agreement with the Seminole tribe. Yes.

Who used the money to pay for the hard rock casino yeah and but the thing is is that um the native tribes in uh the atlanta area yeah they don't exist anymore i wonder why that might be yeah the cherokee um uh lived in the area the exact spot where atlanta is in the surrounding suburbs and something happened in history called the Trail Tears where big dick energy but giant asshole Andrew Jackson had them removed

to what they call the Indian Territory which is Oklahoma now so the Cherokee don't exist there anymore and you're doing a fake native chant on not not like on native on unseated native land unseated native land there was

no fucking treaty or anything like that that was a forced eviction and just the mental shit and they'll be like oh well you just you're just like you're a poverty franchise you just you just don't like that we have this cool thing it's like no dude it's fucking racist it's a piece it's shitty and on the goddamn at espn broadcast they showed like the camera angle panning slowly as the stadium was

blacked out oh they they not only showed it they fucking glorified it as this big old chant and i just don't understand how you could be a braves fan and have any sort of like social justice mindset yeah if you're listening to this podcast and you're a fucking braves fan i don't how are you not fighting your fellow fans for this shit i mean they built the stadium out in fucking cobb County, not in the city on purpose. They did that. You know why? Oh, 100%. Sherman did not do enough burning, apparently.

No, no. Fuck the Braves. Fuck that fucking franchise. Oh, we're a family-oriented franchise, and we have rules and shit and you know Freddie Freeman was on that shit when he was on the team and that's oh we never cover the Braves logo with our sunglasses

oh we don't wear eye block this big uh fuck you fuck your franchise bullshit uh Atlanta Atlanta give it back to the Cherokee give it back to the Cherokee they will run it a million times better. Fuck that shit.

God, just how could you do, like, how do you not realize it's racist? I mean, I mean. You know it's racist and you don't care, dude. Yeah, or yeah, you don't care. Yeah, you have no morals. You have no moral values. Fuck you.

Like, come on. You're mocking a culture that was genocided like are you fucking kidding me you can tell that this is like an issue that really god damn pisses me off

like we got rid of minstrelry like it's equivalent of that. I agree. No, I totally agree. Yeah. We got rid of that shit. Um, we got rid of like, uh, the, the, the fake, uh, Chinese, uh, you know, Orientalism nonsense as much as, you know, a lot of that's gone. I'm not saying it's all gone, but the yellow face kind of stuff is, is, is, is all but gone in media.

We recognize that as racist, but we can't recognize the original people that we fucked up. That this is racist. Fuck that shit. Fuck the Braves. Poverty franchise. Yeah. Fold the Braves and send them back up to montreal yep uh so yeah i i don't know ben simmons played for the i i do have thoughts which is like yeah i mean i i'm sick of hearing espn's well we're gonna stick to sports shit and then do this

yeah you know you have to acknowledge it you have to acknowledge like hey some people very much don't like this because it's racist as fuck like yeah oh well i talked to native americans and they they're actually kind of mixed on that they've done studies hey fuck you fuck you it doesn't matter yeah just don't fucking do it yeah just don't fucking do it fucking racist yeah and and and and i'll do one last thing before we get to ben making fun of ben simmons but like you know all the so much of the native american imagery that's been appropriated you know it's all it's all like plains native they're all trying to like like like ape the sioux or lakota or command like tribes that were out west with like the war bonnets and kind of stuff.

And it's like, dude, this is, this is an East, this is the East coast. The natives were different. Like they had different languages. They had different cultures. They weren't just native Americans. They all fucking different tribes that some of them couldn't even talk to each other. And they live 10 miles from me, you know, like, ah, fuck it. All right. We can make fun of ben simmons now oh let's talk about ben simmons so ben simmons played in his first game as a brooklyn net there were many sixers fans in attendance and they booed him and he missed both free throws and he and he tried to do like a turnaround jumper and missed too.

And missed it. He was fairly decent on defense. Yeah. But he always has been. He always has been. But man, he did not play offense. Nope. So, LOL Nets.

LOL Ben Simmons. Let's continue to suck um and if you've been a listener since the beginning you know that we started out defending him and we've come around over over over time to hate being haters so yeah we are haters we we we stuck our necks out as long as anyone could yeah yeah until it was clear that there was no like actual defensible position for him he just was going to be an asshole fuck uh what else we got you want to do some voicemails i mean that's kind of all we got yeah yeah look good flyers who gives a shit i don't give a horse doesn't know what he's gonna do at goalie uh i don't give a shit. Let's wrap this bitch up

honestly. Yeah. So and one of the voicemails will cover the union. So of course they will. All right. So

Ash from Iowa had we tried to get to their voicemail last episode and it wouldn't work. So there was no like reaction to it. so hopefully it works this

time that's a real good voice um uh hi i'm ash um trying to see him he him i'm from iowa uh so backstory a couple like like a year before the eagles won the super bowl by some means i don't even remember how i think i was listening to some podcast at the time. I was like, yeah, sure. I'll just,

I'll hitch my horse to the Eagles because it's good to have like a team that you support. Uh, because then when people are talking football, you can be, um, needlessly antagonistic. So that's right. That's right that's good energy on the super

ball that was hype as fuck uh and then i just completely forgot that football existed and then like recently i was like football is a good vibe and i need some harmless tribalism in my life life so uh this second second game of the season uh it's gonna be my first uh like season trying to actually keep up with the eagles after like waffling around for a long time so um i guess i don't have much to say other than that but um i i'm excited to get myself into this bullshit also yay Liam on your engagement that's super exciting and I'm very happy for you love the pod

that's all that was nice yeah no your basket of broken beer bottles is in the mail. Don't cut yourself on those. Remember, those are for your enemies, not for you.

Yeah, point towards enemy. Point towards enemy, yes. Yeah, go birds. Go birds, baby. Especially out in Iowa, that's a good... You can really piss some people off out there. And then Ashton calling in again so let's see yo what's up it's Ash

again just with a small update that shit fucking rocked that was fantastic and I am very pleased go birds fuck yeah oh is that the absolute decimation of the Minnesota Vikings yes yes yeah hey hey remember

38-7 we didn't quite get there but I'll take 24-7 there was a person who was in the WTYP mentions who was like well fucking whoever their their Mike Zimmer was just as good of a coach as Jalen Hurts as a quarterback and I'm like well Jalenlen hurts still has a job fuck ass

shut the fuck up listen uh the tribalism absolutely extends to well there's your problem don't don't bring your shit to me yeah um yeah because uh roz will support philly and alice is an honorary philadelphian so uh yeah uh fuck you uh but not ash ash you're cool the person did who's in the mentions um all right uh we haven't heard from john from pittsburgh in a while and he's uh he left us a message uh so let's get to let's get to john hey how you doing john jesus christ been a minute calling from the toilet factory my my gratuitous hour lunch break given to us by the union. Won't let us have a single beer on it anymore, so I figured I'd give you guys a call since I've got some time to kill.

It's been a bit. I've been traveling a little bit. I saw Pitt beat W season opener. Great game. Great game. That's a great game. I've got a question for you. So I guess we can call them an ally on the left.

I think there's some dispute around this, but Matt Brunig tweeted that until the major league baseball standardizes ballpark dimension, home run records are meaningless. You've got your guys' opinion on this. I, for one, think that Stratcast can stop trying to make all social assets and sports and life blind. And the

ballpark is great. Despite the Pirates' visible record, TNC Park is still beautiful. And I appreciate the different dimensions of having to play at different ballparks. It's about the only thing that kind of keeps me watching baseball. It's different every time. Interested to hear what you guys' opinions are.

Love to hear from you. Have a good one. Hail to Penn, fuck Penn State, and talk to you again later. Dude, that is the best part. Like, that's so much fun. The best part of baseball. Yeah, you got all these weird-ass quirks. Like, you have the right field pole, the pesky pole.

Pesky pole. And that shit is, like, the shortest home run. But you got to hit it perfectly on that angle because it's so steep. So it's, like, very rare that someone hits it right at the line i think that's the best part it's all the weird shit like that's what makes like like all these cool stadiums unique is they all have their own factors you know like the ivy at wrigley the big green monster, the, you know, uh, all the memes about Yankee stadium, you know, like, like all the, all that, the weird shit and ballparks have been more standardized over time, but. And ruined.

Yeah. I mean, they used to be. I was just at Dodger stadium, uh, last week. Uh, it's dude, it's so fucking big. Yeah. It seats 56,000. That's pretty big. Yeah. Yeah. it was a beautiful place to watch a game you know i had a lot of fun petco park is apparently very good uh petco park is beautiful it's gorgeous i i dropped uh her in sister and her boyfriend off there and i went to the bar oh did you go did you go to the bar we weren't sure about the bike that being a nazi no i went to stone okay

yeah much less much less of a chance of them being nazis there that's just greg kush being a weirdo no not him he's sam adams no you're thinking fuck what is his name it begins with Greg

is it yeah stone guy stone brewing I was right yeah gosh I don't know oh fuck all right but yeah

that's a bit shut the fuck up how about that yeah um all right uh we got uh we got an update from charlie charlie he's out of jail were we supposed to say that it's been jail that was the joke yeah yeah alright here we go hey guys this is Charlie

from Roxborough he him yay Liam hey Tom watch the UD you know suffocate on their own shit in Charlotte

tonight really pulling up doing their best Phillies impression. You know, you want to play your best going into the playoffs. October soccer, October baseball seems to be a bridge too far

for Philadelphia teams. They just played their worst game tonight. They still have to hope for Montreal to drop points to clinch the East. They're going to have to hope for Montreal to drop points to clinch the East. They're going to have to hope for L.A. to lose to make the last game the least interesting for the Shield. All that talk of the Shield, they're probably not going to get it. They're going to get a ticket to the live show anyway, so double my fault.

It's not playing their best right now. They just have to take care of Toronto at home. They gain some sort of momentum, and then it's going to be a 10-day break between the final day of the season and the start of the second round if they clinch the division, if they clinch the conference.

Hopefully the Phillies can stop shitting in their own mouth too, enough to where they get in the playoffs. So at least have a double playoff. Baseball and soccer in October, but you're in it, so we'll have that but alright talk to you guys from the in Chester for the Toronto game bye alright thanks Charlie

yeah they definitely have their I looked at the union stats their points they're second to LA so they have to get more points to get the shield but they definitely

have clinched the playoffs yeah good job Union alright we got another one our last voicemail today is from Leah I believe it's Leah could be wrong could be someone that's just no it's Liam is it Liam as far as I remember if this is something I believe it's Leah. Could be wrong. Could be someone. That's just. No, it's Liam.

Is it Liam? As far as I remember, if this is what I'm thinking of. Go for it. That's Liam. Hey, my name is Liam. Hey. Yeah.

Hey, him. I'm a Minnesota sports fan. You guys fucking suck. But you really did deserve that win. We played like dog shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My real point of calling is I'd love to hear you guys have live guests because I praise the unhinged shouting of the Alex Jones show, but I can't take the right wing goulery.

And I think Liam would fill that desire just perfectly. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. that desire just perfectly thank you thank you yeah uh that would that would be fun to do a lot um i don't know how they would sell technologically but no idea um yeah

calling people dopes and uh really mean things yeah yeah uh all right we got a few we got a handful of dms to go through first one was uh from henry henry v um just a short one that they raced so so henry v tells me they race at the head of the Ohio and Pittsburgh this weekend. We beat Penn state by less than a second. Fuck Penn state. And also we had bow number one 69. Nice. So,

uh, Henry, Henry the fifth, uh, congratulations. Congratulations on your victory, uh, defeating,

uh, Penn state, uh, Joe Pond new. Yeah. And then metric Mike, uh, this, this this one we've kind of answered this already uh but he said hello time yay lamb after what happened with two during the dolphins game on thursday i had three questions after this still happening after prior rule improvements of policy

changes one should there be a further adjustments to rule in football for example banning tackling two if such changes improve football beyond player safety not to diminish safety being key reason to a change similar to removal hand checking a basketball or to 92 soccer rule change on goalies handling balls kicked to them uh at indie gamer check post this question and hand check example a larger thread which made me think to ask you to and he linked to the thread I took a look at it where it's basically you know after you got rid of hand checking in basketball how it allowed for

my dynamic game and made it only a partial contact sport and then the third question is how absolutely fucks you all leadership in the Dolphins be right now also fuck Cleveland Browns fan for continuing to prove that we are a mistake on the lake so as it be right now also fuck cleveland browns fan for continuing to prove that we are a mistake on the lake so i don't know how you feel especially on the spot i i've kind of said that before that

that perhaps there needs to be a change to where it's more rugby like and you have coaches that have had that implemented that but yeah uh waist down tackles only no no only like uh grabbing the legs no no uh picking up people's you're not suplexing them you're not doing wwe shit yeah so and actually you could you could take away some padding and i think the big thing is the padding makes these players think that they're invincible yes and and these that happened when we got rid of bare knuckle boxing yeah and and and you'd be surprised when people think oh they fixed the helmets no they don't get concussions anymore it's like that's not true at all that's not true

i've encountered some some you know well-meaning but not informed people who thought that. So I think it's like if you drive without a seatbelt, you tend to not be as much of an asshole, although I'm pro-seatbelt, to be clear. And then the last part, I don't know how you think, how fucked should the leadership be? I think we already kind of said that. Hopefully very, although I don't think they will be. Yeah, call in and say what you will do with their head coaches back of their head.

And the last one, the last voicemail here from Sebastian. I responded to this. This was back in September, but it was, hey, boys, can you hear going on a trip to Pennsylvania visit family in a few days, specifically Harrisburg. And as a man i hope i don't get hate crimes jesus this fucking sucks fuck this world um go birds in solidarity with the train strikes also something sports related i want to thank you two for making sports interesting for me the first time in life so yeah that's like thank you um i i did say say Harrisburg itself is pretty much fine. Harrisburg is fine.

Yeah. Dauphin County is pretty much fine. It's south, north, east, and west you got to worry about. Sebastian, let us know what your experience was in Harrisburg because I know that already happened. So let us know. But yeah, it fucking sucks that you have to worry about that shit. Anywhere in Pennsylvania, the actual cities are fine. Are usually fine. Usually, asterisk fine. You know, downtown Philly, you actual cities are fine. Usually fine. Usually, usually asterisk fine.

You know, downtown Philly, you wouldn't have problems. Usually, you know, anything like that. You know, even the smaller cities like Harrisburg or Pittsburgh, you have their enclaves or it's actually pretty safe to be, you know, not visibly straight says, but yeah. So hopefully your trip was cool. Harrisburg is an underrated city.

It's underrated. It's fine. It's fine. You definitely know more. You definitely know more. I'll recognize it. Go visit York then, right? Yeah, don't visit York. We don't deserve it.

Yeah. right yeah don't visit york we don't deserve it yeah um so oh all right we're almost done here uh outro our north catholic tier patrons kh steven d sean p patrick and so shouts out to you and we have three new 700 level tier patrons thank you you Charlie how fucking long has this been and you're finally yeah okay yeah dude come on we profit from your labor and give you

nothing in return except air time we're gonna pay you guys an exposure actually voicemail 267-371-7218 give us a pronoun see him and follow us i'm at tahican t-pain he's at night liam anderson suspended baby not suspended um patreon.com slash 10 000 losses uh other podcasts well i guess you do you want to plug your second lot because it looks like you have a second one now officially yep uh if it hasn't uh sold out yet uh go listen to uh oh fuck go buy tickets to the live show at underground farts in philadelphia on december 8th well it says

they're not going up till the 7th so they better not have sold out no they obviously get the first show oh the first show it definitely sold out it sold out yeah uh so listen well there's your problem uh listen to lines of a liam's listen to uh what are the other ones trash future

uh i'm drawing a blank help me here man no lions led by liam's trash future kill james bond well there's your problems I'm drawing a blank help me here man no lions led by Liam kill James Bond there's your problem we are 10,000 losses

please yeah and all the other ones in the WTYP sphere but yeah I think that's a pod man thank you all right bye