Ten Thousand Losses - Ballscast

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

While Tom eats a peach, the boys talk the NBA CBA and its implications on players, and get a call from the Great Pittsburgh Potty Union Man himself. July bonus will be out soon, sorry for the delay. �� Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod  Leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses 

He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy it is to come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge an ice ball. We, the Dallas Cowboys, had a sense of making John Cooney. Yeah, the sounds you hear are Tom eating a peach live on air. We will never be professional. I'm going to the country. I'm going to eat a lot of

peaches. I get my peaches down in Georgia. Love that shit. Something badass, bitch. Is that a country song? No, it's a Justin Bieber song. I wouldn't know. It's catchy.

I just don't know most of it. A judge, a peach. That's you, baby. They call me the New Jersey peach because I'm caked up. I don't think that anyone has ever called you that. Also, you're not from New Jersey. No, I'm not. All right.

Hello. Yeah, it's peach time, right? Get your stone fruits in while you can. I love stone fruit so much. Peaches, nectarines, cherries, plums. I like a peach. I like a peach. Like some cherries.

I don't think I've had a plum in a minute, but I like nectarines too. Plums are slept on, man. Plums are the shit. Yeah, I like a nice peach i i really like this sort of candied i like peach rings like a like a sleeper uh candy that is that is a low-key goaded candy yeah what kind of polar you got there i get the cranberry lime oh not a cranberry guy sorry i don't like the tartness oh yeah i i love cranberry so much i i one of these days i'll have to make my cranberry sauce for you it is so fucking good yeah it's it's it's got um what's what's the uh it's got contra in it

um and i can i boozy cranberry sauce oh yeah and then i i upward down the the sugar content depending on the audience so if it's like i'm just making it for my wife and i we'll keep the sugar cut that pretty low right we do like we both like tart not super sweet she likes like no almost no sweetness i like a balance um but if it's like you know for like my family whatever like that i'll make it normal uh but yeah, then there's like star anise in there. There's cinnamon. There's all this. Yeah, you got to.

It's like mulling spice, but it's so fucking good. That sounds good, dude. Yeah. It's getting me ant for winter. I'm ant for winter just because it's too fucking hot outside, dude. It is fucking hot. Although I am turning into a summer guy. I'm backsliding you're

backsliding yeah i i used to not be a beach guy but now i'm like hey you know what maybe maybe the salt life is for me uh gonna get one of those on your truck dude yeah salt life uh yeti in the back and uh shitty plastic sunglasses oh yeah uh one of those flat brim hats flicked backwards oh yeah yeah you look like florida georgia line leather leather skin yes just pure just just you don't beyond donald trump skin yeah yeah like the there's there's a certain type of like florida and you know that's funny this florida skin or like now that we're the new the new thing for uh like weird right wing health nuts which is it's so funny to me that this is converged like what was granola what was right wing they used to be

separate and now they're like they've done the same right it's converged it's like no sunglasses no sunscreen yeah just get skin cancer at 45 yeah like look at look at this i'm i'm iridescent yes and that's how pale i am you can't see it but i sure can yeah um and this is this is like tan like from the from the beach like there's freckles and stuff that's the same shade but yeah no but that is me tan like that's me tan sure yeah like that's how bad it is and i i get pretty tan for being irish and swedish yeah well you know what they say about the the irish it's a spanish armada right yeah that's that's me secret spaniard i think i'm like 116th portuguese or something oh okay um who was that dictator you're a fan of salazar yeah that's me i famous famous fan

of salazar salazar number one yeah salazar number one uh phone bigger i'm holding up right now yeah but uh going back to like yeah i wait what is why no sunglasses i don't understand that one like like motherfucker have you seen how they dress in the desert like before sunglasses they have like little eye slits like the or like the the inuit the all the people who live up like on the arctic where they also get that reflection, they have those goggles with the eyes. Yeah. It's like, motherfucker, these people would have killed for sunglasses.

And you're... I don't know if you saw that video. It was a very handsome, well-muscled gentleman, probably taking steroids based on the size of his delts. As you do. but uh you know of course um oh no it's trt so it's safe um oh and uh uh you know just and you can just see like the red sunburn like the florida leather is starting already right but yeah we're here we're grounded no sunglasses no just the full uv spec spectrum. Because that's really... You know what? Why don't we get rid of the ozone layer?

Actually, what we'll do is we'll get you on a plane above the ozone layer. And you could just lay out with a pane of glass. That way you don't die. Right. And you can get the full UV and see how fast you fucking get cancer.

Because it's going to be very very alarmingly quickly yeah yeah you know like all right okay it's like we're going back to like hey uh it's uh it's orbit gum now with strontium yeah yeah the vitality of strontium gives your teeth a healthy glow until you get falsie jaw and it falls out. Alright, um, hello. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome to another episode of 10,000 Losses, the only Philadelphia sports podcast that exists.

Eat my ass, Rice to Ricky Sanchez. I'm your host, yeah. Rice to Ricky Sanchez fans, known weaklings. I'm your host, Tom Payne. My pronouns are he, him. William, hi. I'm William Anderson pain my pronouns are he him with respect to host yay liam hi i'm liam anderson my pronouns are he him um what i don't think we have any announcers today um well we have i think next week we're gonna have the bym boys on yes uh so that'll be good

um and we'll talk about uh some college football fo foosball because it's getting close it is the big media days right now the big terrible machine revs up again to sate me and my blood lust you can't go to sleep during

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So, um, as, as we're speaking, is the score still what it is? Uh, still for nothing. Yeah.

It's still for nothing. So we've got a man on base and two outs. Um, you know, uh, many have asked the question, is the Phillies good? We don't know either i don't know i mean the record wise they're good i think i think they're good i think they went on the hot

streak and they came down the earth a little bit but yeah i mean they're 52 and 43 right now it's the bottom of the ninth he's in two outs it's one out my bad one one out I every game I'm bringing it up hang on yeah every game against this I haven't watched your link is ready

that's good love when my link is ready yeah um okay this stream's behind but that's okay you

well yeah you can't you have YouTube TV dude I know but I I think someone just got kicked. I think someone is... No? I thought someone got kicked out. There's a person in an NBC Sports Philadelphia shirt

yelling at a fan. But I don't know the context. YouTube TV. Yeah, but this is a YouTube TV stream. That's the problem. Welcome to 10,000 Losses, the sports podcast of Pirates baseball live on the air. Despite paying for it. Yeah.

So... God, Harper's at bat. All right. Well, so this Milwaukee series, I think we play down to mediocre teams. And every single one of these games the brewers have scored before us right and i think we were expecting them to come from behind every time not on tuesday because uh phillies had a lead off uh the walk-off no the lead on uh shorebird had a lead off home run yeah but didn't the brewers all right yeah i'm wrong okay um it's just

a lot it's just you know yesterday's game today's game anyway right uh but but speaking of bryce harvard speaking of yesterday's game did you see that at bat uh no i didn't which one uh uh harper stood there and took every pitch right and only loaded his stride on the last one like he just stood there that's great yeah um and people were wondering what's going on it turns out he had like 101 fever on tuesday oh okay excused yeah um but uh rob thompson was saying i think he the guy had a weird arm angle so he was like trying to figure out his arm angle then you know it was the first time he'd seen that pitcher and lefty on lefty i don't know even cruck was confused when cruck gets confused you know

like genuine confused yeah not a good time yeah yeah god alec boe is terrible i like that he shakes his ass before he bats oh yeah you gotta do that you gotta you gotta get your your cup in line. Boehm's not terrible. No. We're going to lose this game, but that's okay. We're going to go to Cleveland and play the Orioles. The Orioles are good now. They're coming

in the town next week. That's going to be a fun series to watch. Put that on your... Are the Phillies going to play a fun series to watch. Yeah. Put that on your... Are the Phillies going to play up to their opposition who are tied at the time of recording, tied for number one in the ALEs.

They're tied with the Rays. The Orioles are a really, really, really fun team to watch. Yeah. You think the mid-2010 Phill fills are bad you've never watched your team lose 115 games yeah the orioles have been stinking it up and they finally are doing well and hopefully they uh they don't like like it would be very dumb to break this

team up now for parts like just let it just let it ride You get all these young guys on team control for the next couple years. Just do that. It's a shame, too, because the Angelos family, I think it was the dad who's... Game over. 4-0. 4-0. That sucks. Was the complete game showed up by Court Birds? Yeah, I think so.

Oof. Dancing on our own. I played at the bar yesterday oh did it yeah i was at i was at drinkers last night drinkers yeah i remember drinkers yeah it was 19th and chesa places a shithole that's Sometimes shitholes are the best places to drink. Yeah. Was it a shithole on a bandwagon? It was fun. Speaking of shitholes,

our boy, what's his first name? Painter? Oh, Andrew Painter. He's getting Tommy John surgery, so he's shut down. Yeah. They were like, oh, there's a sign that UCL is healing, and then now they're like, okay, now we want the surgery.

I don't want to be, like, reactive like some of these idiots on Twitter are being like, oh, well, this is, like, malpractice. Like, surgery is usually the last option for a reason. You don't want to rush surgery right away. And there's even, like like now you'll hear about like high school dads like at like their sons are pitching and they'll be like can i just get him tommy john's surgery now they're like he's got a healthy ucl like yeah but people throw harder after it's like motherfucker he's gonna wear it out first like it's not a preemptive

surgery like it's not how that works so i think a lot of people are very fucking stupid about how this works. Yeah, I mean that sounds about right to me. And if you can recover it, if it can heal – and ligaments take a long time to heal. Yes, they do. I think we've rushed that back now, and I don't think people are like cognizant of how much we sort of rush ligaments. Yeah. Especially the ACL. That's the one one comes to mind yeah i mean

if you are a lot of times guys who are bodybuilding in particular because there's a lot of steroids um but it can happen to power lifting too is you can grow your muscle like your strength to the point where your ligaments haven't caught up yet right and you can tear ligaments doing very simple exercises yes if you're that geared up because you just didn't give your ligaments time to strengthen they will strengthen they will heal they just take a while right and i have i have like patella ligament you know issues well it's more it's more of the stuff on the back of the patella, but not my patella ligament proper.

But, yeah, like ligaments are tricky. Whatever. But, yeah, so he's not pitching this year. He's not pitching for a year. So we'll see him when he's like 21. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I'm sure he'll come back and pitch fine.

He's a talented young kid. He'll be nasty. It's a shame that Mick Abel and Griff O'Gary aren't pitching that well in the minors. Right. Yeah, we'll see what it is. I do want to talk to wrap up Philly stuff with bad takes. Because there's been a lot of bad takes. We've seen a lot of bad takes because there's been a lot of bad takes and we've seen a lot of bad takes

in because it's trade time right um so some of the bad takes people are getting baited by like joe giulio on their on uh wip he's like i'll trade you know painter for for soto he's his whole thing is like he wants to trade for Soto. Sure. And so that's – those guys are gadflies. But on the other hand, you have – like they're just saying shit like that. He's saying shit like that so you listen to this fucking thing. So you call him – and you want to call him an idiot.

And then that gets you on the air. It's drama. It's reality TV for guys guys for donko dudes yeah yeah now ben davis who has been mentioned on this podcast before um i don't think we took him to task on his um breathe in the fresh air while while the uh particulate matter was in like the 500s in the do not go outside it smells like a campfire you might die if you breathe this kind of like uh thing right he thinks that's fake i guess he thinks that's a government thing oh of course he's and now i don't know i think he hasn't really

started like he's revealing like his politics a I think. And he's probably a conservative shithead. Yeah, of course. More than your average baseball player. Right. And so on the idea of Soto, which we're not trading for Soto. Soto's got a year and a half left with the Padres. If we're going to get him, they're going to get him when he's a free agent. Right.

But Ben Davis said, and he was on WIP. I look at Juan Soto like heartened. I don't think that that act is going to fit in the Phillies clubhouse. There's a reason this team is as good as it is, because they love each other. I don't get that vibe when I watch Juan Soto play. Hey, what's the difference between Juan Soto and most of the guys on the Phillies? What's the difference between Juan Soto and most of the guys on the Phillies? What's the difference there? Is it could be that Juan Soto is not a white guy?

I think it is. He's Hispanic. That might be it, Tom. And that Soto does his silly Soto shuffle. And somehow that's the only thing people know about him is this is this shuffle that people think is disrespectful uh despite the fact that he has a pristine reputation as a teammate from people who played with him he does and that i know from people who they're um in the tip of his slack there's a woman she uh worked for the networks for nationals and said when he was on the nationals he would make sure that like he had like christmas presents and stuff for

like the the minor like the people who loaded the team truck right like he was that kind of guy and he and when he left for for san diego he went and made sure everyone got to say goodbye to him like he went and he said thank like he's that kind of guy but because he does his waggling his his hips and sticking his tongue out you know when he's that bad he's a bad team player like what the fuck so it's like it doesn't mean anything yeah it's it's it's it's like oh so this guy's got some sort of like you know um lat america whatever you want to say it, swagger to him that they do in those leagues and where he comes from and how you saw in the World Baseball Classic

this infectious energy that's really fun. Ben Davis thinks that's bad. And he might not be aware that it is racially coded, but it is. It is. It is. Ben Davis is a fucking idiot. and he's got a big fucking

square head and it's funny because i've said this before that he will make some takes when he's talking about play on the field and he gets it like frustrated when a catcher does something stupid dude you're a career like 146 hitter like yeah exactly like all right if mike schmidt was was going to get worked up over this like you know mike schmidt's a grumpy old man but mike schmidt's in the fucking hall of fame right yeah he's good he was good at baseball when he was playing it yeah yeah he he was a gold glove you know fielder he was multiple times silver slugger right mvp if mike schmidt gets grumpy over alec bone doing something stupid in the field he's allowed to because he knows exactly what he knows how to do it ben davis your failed player like

shut the fuck up like why why does why does nbc sports philly continue to employ this doofus i don't know because i figured there figured there are there are better yeah yeah what's jimmy rollins up to or chase utley or someone yeah well yeah chase utley is the mlb ambassador to england right now what really yeah yeah um but yeah how about like how about blaine howard ryan howard um ryan howard actually has a restaurant chain now i think that colby's solar kiss chicken or whatever but uh dude like yeah like how about you want to get a catcher because the catchers are the brains yo where's carlos reeds where's um where's mike liberthal get those guys in fucking ben davis he's he's fucking horrible and he was not good at base he's just no yeah oh it's a it's a culture thing no it's not it's just you being

racist no it's it's you being racist and you're too stupid to realize it he's he's too dumb to understand what his political opinions are and and it's and it's a pure just id take no fucking you know thought behind it there's no thoughts in that man's head right yeah um so ben davis official enemy of the podcast please fight me um please fight him yeah fuck you uh all right uh let's wrap up our news uh segment here uh so joel and v's not going anywhere no he's fine stop uh the nba trade calculators are broken out they're like who's he gonna demand a trade he's not going he's not he's not the team the team knows they got to make him happy they got to make moves they they don't want to lose him. They want him on the team the rest of his career. I'm sure he would like that too.

Knock it off. And then I guess the last thing would be that Ben Simmons, he got a year of service time for his holdout season. Good for him, man. Yeah. Get in the bag. All right. Yeah, sure.

Why not? Right. I think he's going to be in the league in like two or three years. No, I don't. Yeah. I think the man going to be in the league in like two or three years. No, I don't. Yeah. I think the man just wants a game. Yeah. I really don't think he will be. Yeah.

I'm not saying that. Yeah. Just, yeah. Go finish your contract out from that, and then go be Simba the Savage and play Call of Duty. Simba the Savage. Yeah. All right.

So, what is this uh we have a um a bit of a long form for our second segment here um wanted to talk more about um get a little more in-depth into some things um especially in the summer we had the doldrums um so uh one of the first things we came up we talked about this a little bit before was the nba cba that's right so i did some so i frankly copied a lot of this from a cbs news article but that's okay uh i did want to talk about like what so what's happening is that uh the new CBA was reached in April. It lasts six years, so the next one will be 2029. I didn't know this, that players and owners split the income basically 50-50 of the NBA.

Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah, but you can kind of bring in more depending on how much teams spend uh so one of the things to know about the nba is that they don't have like a hard cap in place like the nfl does they have a soft cap but there are like numerous exemptions you can use to get around that like burn rates and mid-level right i'm not going into those now because that's an entire that's an entire second deep dive yeah but uh there are teams spending like 70 million over that before the tax so like teams can go well beyond that limit there are these triggers called aprons which there's now a second apron uh so the taxpayer mid-level exception can uh

basically kick in kick in and it's going to restrict movement during the season as an example under the new cba the kairi irving trade made by the mavericks mid-season would not have been able to happen uh there's basically a bunch of control but the what i want to talk about that i found very interesting and i sort of lead for discussion we didn't get rid of the forced year of college or professional play and the expectation was that we would. But the players, i.e. the people currently and veterans who were in the NBA, are really opposed to high school players entering the draft. And I want to talk about that through like, what does that mean for workers? Because while it doesn't seem fair that a kid should have to go to college if they're ready for the NBA. And I don't know that anyone is ever truly ready to play a professional sport you know what i mean right but is this a

win for labor or not and i think it is because it doesn't it makes it hard for a team to stash up on young guys barely out of high school and fuck over vets especially vets who might be like deeper on the bench what do you think okay um so so i'm thinking like four three different thoughts here um on this so so the angle that you're just you brought up was like the idea it's almost like a way of enforcing like like a soft enforcing seniority almost yes like protecting your own job at the at the expense of the young talent um it is interesting i didn't think about it that way um i you could see that so so would would that be would that be a a labor win Or would that be sort of like... Because the idea of seniority

is controversial within labor. Right. Especially when you have two-tier CBAs, where you have... If you've been here for... If you're grandfathered in, you're at this tier, then the new CBA sucks for the new guys but that's not what we're talking about here um right yeah no that's interesting um

you could definitely you could that could definitely like help slow influx help help you know some veteran guys get some bench spots i i was thinking my first thought was and maybe i'm wrong maybe where what you brought up is the actual reasoning behind it i was thinking, my first thought was, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe what you brought up is the actual reasoning behind it. I was thinking, like, is it guys who are older being a little bit, like, paternalistic in a sense? I think that probably is not off the mark. Like, hey, dude, you need to spend a year in high school if you're if you are and a kid who's 18 coming out of high school who would otherwise be drafted by the nba that year you're spending in college is not the real world either that's fair yeah because you're you're spending a year on a college team which isn't

even really a year um and if you're a phenom like that how much you're not getting the quote normal college experience no you're not getting that normal experience and the team's going to make sure you're taken care of and you know um when i when i went to penn state the the whole rumor was that the college players almost i mean the the the football players got classes just for themselves like that was i don't know how true that is i never saw one in any of my classes there's there's certainly paper classes and shit like that yeah um so i don't know so like is it like yeah we want like the younger guys like yo you need to get a year a year in you can't handle all this money like at 18.

I don't know if being 19 or 20 is going to change that at all. I don't think so. But I do understand the like we got it like vets on sort of these like two-year minimum deals feel like they would get pushed out. And I don't think not without reason. And I think we've seen what happens when you try to build a team out of just young dudes i.e the process sixers they stink there's a there's a there's a non sort of just labor value to having old dudes on your team which is that like they know what they sort of it's what my bathroom what's like my bathroom jesus christ it's what

my dad always says about the NCAA tournament. That's a Freudian slip. I don't know what kind of slip that is. They know where the bathrooms are. Right. They can tell the kids, yo, this is how you act. Right? They're mentors.

They can be mentors and team leaders. And you do need that. And, yeah, you can't have a squad that's nothing but young guns because they're going to – the dynamic is going to be different and it helps – they're almost like assistant coaches in a way. Right. They facilitate the team. They know what's happening. And that's in every sport.

It's every sport. Like the third-string quarterback might be a young guy, but the second-string guy is usually someone who's been around a little bit. Every sport, like the third string quarterback might be a young guy, but the second string guy is usually someone who's been around a little bit. Right. It might be a mentor to both of them. You see that a lot of times your second catcher will be like an older guy. There's always room in AAA for older catchers to mentor the young pitchers. So, yeah, you could see that too um i i think it's interesting i mean so so the nba and the nfl don't have farm teams but

college ball uh football is the farm team right but for the nba you know i know they have the g league um right and and there have been some guys like B-Ball Paul who have, like, come – fought their way through the G League. And that's what the NBA wants. Yeah. They want, like, the G League Ignite team to, like, substitute for a year of college. Like, you can still get in after doing that. Yeah.

And I don't have a problem with that either. I do think that, hey, look, it's more players players it's more guys being paid um which is a good thing um and if you can have fun competitive um g league basketball that's that's interesting in places that don't have a basketball team outside of their high school team right or maybe their local college team but um yeah no that's that's i being being you know 35 i do kind of think hey yeah you should probably get a year of college in or a year of professional like the yeah the national the australian basketball league has a program for uh very talented like high school guys who don't know that they want to get to college, and they pay them. So you can get sort of a lower risk.

You're still going to get paid, and you're going to live in Australia. So you're going to have the, like, oh, I'm away from my family a lot. Yeah. And that's something, like, when you are that age, and if you, especially, you know, especially if you don't have much guidance and i'm not saying that nba players are i'm thinking of like myself like being 18 i didn't have a lot of guys i wasn't ready for college yeah yeah i i was not ready for college i didn't i was the first in my direct line

family uh to go to college um so there wasn't really like i helped my brother my brother has barely any debt because i was like a night guy fucking do it this way right you need to learn how the world works a little bit um and i worry about young guys getting a ton of money because you do have like you're dumb when you're young no matter where you're from or what your background is you're dumb when you're young um i mean look at john morant like hey look dude you like guns the only problem jaw is that you're fucking recording it yeah stop being a dipshit don't record it like you don't you don't need to put that ad anywhere if you want to be right you know guns are cool too i think if you know what i'm trying to say like like yeah no and actually like going playing a year

overseas would be fucking cool because you get to see um i've you get to see the world i've talked to um i know a couple guys who um through through um teaching um where they were high school basketball college basketball players but not like top tier guys right um but they played um division one basketball uh we're not you know anyone who's going to get drafted but uh foreign leagues will come scout them and i know a guy who worked uh he had worked for the italian league and he worked and then he worked uh he played in the egyptian basketball league so he did a couple years he got paid and he got to live in italy and he got to live in egypt and like much more worldly guy and he comes back home and he like was mentoring guys and like no dude i've

seen the world right and it was steven adams is doing on the on the grizzlies for uh john moran yeah um yeah yeah so i don't know i i i would be in favor of just how the nba the players are well compensated and you jump to that level from high school and I mean you know some of these kids might not even got laid yet and now you have

how much money? $2 million? Right, right. Like Jesus, you don't know what the fuck to do with it. If you gave me that kind of money when i was 18 oh i would have fucking ruined everything i i i was fucking i i had a a little bit of like college fund money that wasn't much it was like 1500 dollars right that um an uncle had set up for me and i cashed it out and i spent a thousand of that on cocaine so yeah i i hear you man yeah yeah i've been there yeah and i was that was the most money i had ever had in my bank account ever in my life at that point you know right right so yeah

yeah i i it's interesting yeah and they did have the experiment they did try it out for a couple years uh for a while um yeah yeah and uh dwight uh dwight howard yeah yeah and if the players and if the players are are in favor for it then you know i think that there's probably a reason that i think you're right i think it's part of it is making sure older guys have a spot but you know hey it's one year right and the other thing is like and that one year that jump from being 18 to 19 or 20 is a big jump that's a big jump that's absolutely true because the world is not high school right uh it it's it's not and it's and it's um i think i think school goes on too long. I think we should stop at 16 and then you got to do

a two-year thing, a trade school or a junior college thing. Then you finish off your degree. More like how they do it in your early entry colleges. I hope they do it in the UK or in Germany. Yeah.

Because we drag out adolescentscence and we drag out um and it's like high school isn't what it used to be it's it's very i don't know i think it i think it just makes you a kid too long i don't know what i'm saying i got it yeah i'd have to flesh that out more. But yeah, that's... It insulates you from the reality of life too much. And obviously, you want to be...

You don't want people to be forced into real life immediately, but I feel like there's no transition. You graduate high school and holy shit, no one prepared me. I am now an adult right all the adult responsibilities and a year ago i could do this shit and i wouldn't get trouble and now if i if

i'm not fucked right i'm fucked yeah um no that's absolutely i i i'm to the point where i think you probably need a year of something yeah maybe even till yeah like like like it doesn't have to be college i like what the nba is trying to do with the g league ignite the like prospect team basically scoot henderson number three pick in this year's draft uh played for that g league you know because it acclimates you to playing like what is the difference between professional ball and college ball? And you're still playing and you're around mentor dudes, like we said. Like guys that, like, yeah, like maybe they had a couple years in the NBA. And maybe they washed out, but they're still at least playing professional basketball on some level.

And they're getting paid. Right. And they're getting paid. Exactly. They're not getting paid a ton, but they're getting paid. Because otherwise, if you go to college, you don't really have peers peers you have guys that are a couple years older than you maybe yeah but like there's there's you're all still at college like the adults you have quote are your coaches and i don't know yeah who may have played ball themselves but like that was 40 years Yeah, and your position on campus is you're a big strong guy. Like a demigod.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you, like I said, it's not real adulthood either. Yeah, I think if they did the G League and the G League United team, those are all good ideas. Get the players acclimated get them learning what it is to play in a more nba oriented style team um they probably are treated better because they're professional players like in a sense uh like a concern for your long-term health right there you're not because you can be useful to the team five, six, seven years down the road as opposed to just three or four.

Yeah. So yeah, Power in a Union. Buck College Ball. Although we still like it. It's still fun to watch. Are you ready for our union coverage?

I am ready for my union coverage. Alright, let's go to Charlie. Live from wherever the team is. God knows where. Hey, this is Charlie Levin. He's my friend, Davey G. We're just here at 136 Super celebrating the first career analyst goal

of Chris Donovan, Drexel Zone. And yeah, having a good time celebrating the win. So keep listening. Have a good day. Wow, that was... What was that? This is Charlie... Good friend.

Chris Donovan and his friend, I think. Chris Donovan, Drexel's own. He plays for the Union. So this was a substitute Charlie. I think this is a substitute Charlie. Okay. I think the person saying was dave actually david then i don't know man all right uh well thanks for that um

it's fucking cool though that drexel's own i mean he went to he went to conestoga just stoga, if you will. Stoga stogies. Fighting stogues. So, Wayne had voicemailed us about a fight. What? Yeah, there was a fight in the stands at the NYCFC game. Oh, I saw that on Twitter. Yeah, and Wayne had DM'd us the video of it and there's you can't really make out much but there is a guy who takes his shirt off okay who shouldn't take his shirt

off oh yeah and not that we're shaming i and i think it's because they were wearing the colors of the team i i don't know anyway well let's listen to the voicemail. It'll make more sense. Hey, Tom. Hey, Liam. It's Wayne. Calling you the day after the Union facing off NYCFC. I got tickets to the match in the Sons of Ben Den. Ironically, right near the away supporters, Union were able to turn it around with two goals, one goal in the 23rd minute and another goal in the 85th. NYCFC could only scrounge out some other goal and a bunch of beer cans thrown on a bunch

of families and children, courtesy of the third rail. Which is their supporters club. Oh, it's a so-called reference. So the Union are supporters club second place unfortunately there was no charlie rocheboro sighting yesterday uh so go union and uh fuck nycfc i hope their supporters fucking ran off the turnpike okay all right i like that energy yeah yeah yeah that's exactly what i was gonna say yeah the video um is on it's on twitter uh wayne hits uh sent it to me i could i could put in the show notes um where they're just getting in a they're just being dumb and then i guess they're asked to take their shirts off by by it looks like union security um and then. There's just a bunch of shirtless

fellas. Dudes. Just dudes. That's weird. That is the big rivalry. Honestly, the Union fans, the Suns have been very chill,

but they get into it. They get rowdy. Right. I couldn't imagine fans i mean the sons of ben are very chill but like they get into it they get rowdy like i right you i couldn't imagine like walking in in like with a small number of like it looked like maybe like 50 third rail people like you're gonna fight like 400 sons of ben like i don't know what you think is like a poor idea yeah that seems like bad and plus like i know the new yorkers aren't like a cowardly group um but you're in fucking chester dude um you're you're all you're you're in dude they're they were they they eat tire fires they breathe the smoke right um that's fucking funny. That's funny. Um, and what, what like union,

let's see, did they win? Uh, they beat, yeah, they beat, uh, um,

they beat NYC FC two to one. Good. And then now they're in the league's cup. Fucking dweebs. Um, playing club Tijuana. Oh, wow.

Yeah. All right. Uh, last. Yeah. All right. Last but not least, we have a voicemail from a correspondent who hasn't left one in a while. It's the famous Toilet Factory Union Man. Ah, yes. Toilet Factory Union Man. John from Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh. All right.. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. All right. Let's hear it. Hey, how you doing? John from Pittsburgh. He has been a while. I've been busy at the Pittsburgh Potty Factory. I'm going to ship myself right now.

I wanted to respond to your prompt asking what is the hardest thing to root for for the success of your team. As a Jets fan, I will have to say Aaron Rodgers. Thank you. And I would like to have a message from Pat. He is currently in the back right now, sleeping off a long day of work or whatever the hell

he does. He would like to tell Tom and Liam that John from Pittsburgh will happily run your Threads account since you two losers are too cool to be there. Also, he said send him a blue sky invite.

Hail to Pitt. Fuck Pitt State. Have a good day, fellas. Oh, well, thank you, John from Pittsburgh. We'll have to convene about that. Yes, I'd like that. Speaking of which, I just got a message from Patrick about his

toilet war. No, he's cutting weight right now because he wants to wrestle in Wildwood. Yeah, I saw that and uh his incredible his body's caloric expenditure allowance is going up like he's allowed it like his body's burning more calories now that he's cutting weight which is kind of like contrary to how physics works sure but uh he's like why couldn't this happen to me while I was bulking? Oh, buddy. Yeah. Yeah.

It's all right. He's very strong. We lifted weights the other day. I was like deadlifting like 135 just to make it, see if it felt right. He's like, yeah, I was doing my squat warm up. You know, that was like 400 pounds. Like, Jesus Christ. God damn, dude.

Oh, dude. Very strong man. Like, knowing he's so gentle, but yet you know he could wreck. That's how you know someone could wreck your shit. God damn, dude. Oh, dude. Very strong man. He's so gentle, but yet you know he could wreck. That's how you know someone could wreck your shit. When they're chill as shit. Patrick could wreck our shit.

Both of us. If both of us teamed up on him, he would still kick our ass. Yeah, we would lose. Pitifully. It would be fast. But yeah. pitifully it would be fast yeah but yeah thanks John for the rooting scenario

having to root for Aaron Rodgers I did see that he was doing a press conference today while I was at the gym yeah we are still taking voicemails on that your worst rooting scenario uh definitely uh call in with that tell us what you would do with aaron rogers penis yeah um why did why did that

buzz soul noise just start in my head i don't know i don't know i can't help you with that uh all right so shouts out to our north catholic tier patrons uh kyle c patrick and sean p my guest may the beast steven d And we have a new 700-level patron today, Dan. Thanks, Dan. Yep. Plugs. So 267-371-7218. Give us your name and pronouns. Tell us what you would do with Aaron Rodgers' penis. Tell us what

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Listen to my balls. Listen to his balls. Yeah. Balls cast. Balls cast. Yeah. All right. That'll be 2024.

That'll be the pivot. All right. All right, man. I guess I'll see you you gotta text me yeah we gotta figure out where we're hanging out alright man see ya bye everybody No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don't care. We're from Philly, fucking Philly, no one likes us, we don't care.