Ten Thousand Losses - Bet On It

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

Tom & Liam do their usual bullshit before talking about the NBA Betting Scandal of 2025 and a heartbreaking Rolling Stone story on betting apps. Plus listener messages and bad accents.  Find our bonus episodes and Discord at: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses  Follow us on Bluesky:  Podcast: https://bsky.app/profile/10klosses.bsky.social Liam: https://bsky.app/profile/wtyppod.com  Tom: https://bsky.app/profile/tompain.bsky.social Shoot a message or leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218

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And then I'll start recording again And then this is when I'll get You'll say your file was co-catinated Instead of just regular Liam That's me, baby Co-catanated Liam That's a good name I like that

I actually how my day was Tom That was your day, Liam It was good I had a doctor's appointment and before that I got a new driver's license and did you get the real ID? I did not.

Excellent. Fuck, fuck the real ID. Eat that surveillance state. Yeah, fuck you. I have my passport. You can't do anything.

My wife was like, oh, well, you should get it just because, like, just in case, I was like, I have a passport.

I fly with a passport. Yeah. Do you have the TSA and all that shit? Pre-check, yeah. Do you have Global? No. Global's nice.

They do interview you though. Yeah. Listen, I've been interviewed with the I've been interviewed by L. Al, that was unpleasant. Oh, oh. When I was on birthright, sorry, I got interviewed.

Yeah, we've said that before. So do you think, I'm too old now, right? Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't want to go anyway. Well, congratulations. I'm not supporting a genocidal monster stay. I mean, but like if I get like a free trip

and they like pay for it. I mean, we all have our limits, right? We all have our price. Yeah. Um, let's, how much hummus will you give me? Um, can I have all the Dubai chocolate? Ooh. Ooh, pistachios.

See, people are like, I don't understand what's this by chocolate fat. It's like, first off, they made that. That is a, a Tom snack. It is crunchy. It has pistachios and has chocolate. Those three things together are perfect. Why didn't you admit this, Tom? I don't know.

I was out, you know, I was thinking of. What? All right. So it's a similar thing. Just like you know, Liam is chugging a white monster at 4.41 p.m. That's the noise you hear. So instead of like the Kinez...

What? Oh, you got another one. He's got one in the fucking holster. Yeah, oh shit. There's gaming's happening tonight. Oh, boy. I'm going to play. I'm going to like, I'm going to like, see a fight so hard.

Oh, you're going to spawn camp the shit. Out of Civ 5. On D.E. Dust. I hate dust, dude. I was actually pretty into counterstrike for a while. I used to be nasty at counterstrike back when I was 14. You know what I was really good at? I was 20 years ago.

Battlefield 2, Strike a Carcan 24-7. Yep. Yep. You had the rush. We always tried the rush across the river to get that. I have literally had, like I could draw the map right now. Yeah. I've played so much.

that um shit what we're talking about real ID there was something I was going to say while you were chugging the white the white not the white claw white monster Tom white monster oh the so instead of Keneffa in the um the Dubai chocolate you actually take uh like baklava philo dough like the real thin like the birds nest looking one and you put that in and then you fill that with the with the uh pistachio butter And then you enrobed that in chocolate. That sounds pretty good. That would be pretty good, too.

Similar. Back when I was allowed to eat peanuts, I've had a kitchen sink bar, which was like caramel, chocolate, peanut butter, pretzels. Ooh. Man, it's kind of like a Hershey's take five bar, but like better.

Nice. I'm sorry, not allowed to eat peanuts. I'll make that up for you. Thank you. I fucking love peanuts. Have I told the, fit like the fattest thing I do or I've done I haven't done this a long time which is take peanut

butter just put it in a bowl and then jam and just put it in the bowl and just mix it up and eat it's not even not even on bread not no that's too much work you get 900 you can eat 900 calories in 30 seconds that way like it's a fucking animal it's disgusting it's disgusting the other thing I used to do was I would melt butter Take sugar, like brown sugar, put mix it up, put like vanilla, mix it up, and basically eat that. Yeah, pre-cake. Yeah. Ooh, it's so bad for you.

So bad for you. Yeah, I, uh, what's the fattest thing? I got McDonald's today as a little treat. So, that's not. See, that's not. I used to, I used to, I used to eat the, the big chicken with the McDouble, whose name I will not say on air. and I've done the

Air Landed Sea Burger you ever done one of those no Bala fish McChicken McDouble you know now you remind me fast food fat guy

thing I would get at Taco Bell yeah I would get like an extra cheese sauce yeah and I pour that in the

the taco yeah that's not even that bad we are we are hefty boys yeah I mean the real the real real

real fat fat boy hours though is the, it's 2 a.m. No one's awake and I'm making like cookie dough. Right. That's, that's the real. With no intention of making cookies.

No, or brownie batter. I made an entire thing's worth of brownie batter that just drank it basically. Like, just, yeah. And one wonders why I have fucked up relationship with food. I'm with you there, buddy. Oh, man. Well, at least at least we can. It's kind of messed up.

Yeah, you did watch me pick through some stuff, avoiding some texture issues the other day. I was like, oh, he does have it. He does have it. Yeah. But I have it, you mean texture issues and that's something else. That's Tylenol related. That's the other thing. Right.

It's the OCD there. I don't know what it is. I really don't. I don't like unexpected crunches in my food. I don't think that's crazy Yeah I don't like big chunks of onions and tomatoes I don't know why I like onions I like tomatoes Right

It's But when it's unexpected you don't like it When it's in a wrap I don't like it I like the wrap to be soft Like the whole The whole thing to be soft Just like just like my penis Never

Why's you gotta take it there Hey listen five ants still do too Uh You just gotta wait till it wears off And we're good Anyway, hello, welcome to another episode of 10,000 losses. Yeah, the only Philadelphia sports podcast that exists. I'm your host, Tom Paine.

My pronouns are he, him. And with me, my co-host, yeah. Liam, hi, I'm Liam McAnderson. What are your pronouns? Are he and him? Yeah. I saw him lean in for that. I could feel that one on my ear.

Good. It's a nice, gentle kiss, lulling you to sleep. Welcome to Liam Anderson's ASMR. Lee Ams. Lee Amisar. Yeah. You could do that. People would buy that.

Yeah, I'm sure they would. A bunch of fucking freaks. One of a mutual friend of the show that will remain unnamed has DMV several times saying how nice my voice is. So thank you. Who? You know who. I'll put it in the chat. Uh, oh my God, why can't remember his name?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Yeah, has never been on, but both of us have been on W2IPA. I'll leave it at that. Well, he said, you know, has a nice voice. There's not wrong with that. I appreciate it.

Thank you, man. I don't think so, but some people do. Well, you got a face for radio, Tom. Oh, thank you. We've got, oh, that's a perfect time to say, fuck you. No guests, announcements. Bonus. Bonus.

We're going to record a bonus. Yeah. Do you want to tell them what it's about or do you want to just leave them guessing? We'll leave them guessing. How erotic. Yeah. Yeah, the element there is surprise. We'll be waiting there, you know, with their blindfolds on, waiting for the pods bonus to start.

Who knows what's going to happen? Not me. And I sure would like to leave. Yeah. That's got to be someone's thing. Put blindfold on me, put podcasts on. that's pretty innocuous compared to some things I've read about

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with Liam ASMR no no no do not do not that that's how you you kind of get blocked by us if you say that if you want your Patreon

cancel Charlie take it away yeah and not refund it please don't do that Patreon.com says 10,000 losses where you can smell

dude well congrats at least the listeners can't smell that um This is my wife, poor sweet thing that she is. Yeah, just gonna get you the, get the hose. Hey, Liam, get the hose before you go upstairs.

You can't leave the base until you get the hose again. Seriously, me? At the end of the day, you've been chugging. I'm assuming you on your, like, eighth monster. Third, fourth, fourth? Oh my God. They're not good for you. My psychiatrist is telling me that.

No, and like, it's got all the caffeine, but none of the best. like the protective benefits that coffee has. Coffee actually counters act like a lot of the negative effects of caffeine. Patreon.com has 10,000 losses where you can get all the bonuses. You can leave future bonuses and access to our Discord, which where you can, you're not allowed to post dix, but you can, I guess, celebrate the death of political enemies. We won't ban you there for that. That's fine.

Yeah. Uh, so let's talk about some sports. We have, there's a, there's a theme to this one today, but I want to just recap some stuff. So, uh, the Mariners, we did curse the Mariners. Yeah. Sorry, let's. For a little bit than the J's one. Yes, it's going to be J's Dodge.

Do you care about the series at all? Uh, I care about it more than last year. Really? I would, I would root for the Jays. Yeah. I want the Dodgers to lose. Me too. I don't, I don't dislike the J's, so.

I don't mind the Jays. I mean, there's a lot of, they're like a designated rival, quote, unquote, but, yeah. I mean, we lost them, what, 32 years ago? I don't care. Yeah. I will say, in hindsight, man, our, we would have went to the World Series again. The brewers, yeah, sucked. They sucked.

Yeah, they stunk. They stunk. They got swept. The Mariners J's ALCS was fun. It was heartbreaking. If you're Mariners fan listening to this, we feel bad for you. But I think one of our voice mouths has someone calling in from Seattle. Yeah.

Yeah. It sucks. But Blue Jays could be, at least not the fucking Yankees. Right. Yeah. Or some other perennial fucking. Who was it last year again? Yankees Dodgers.

Yeah, it was Yankees, like who gives you shit I don't care but yeah I think that starts to we're recording this on 23rd so I think that's 24th it starts tomorrow yep yeah so yeah have fun with that Sixers are back I didn't watch I did how'd they look

Joel looked like shit VJ Ed to show him as the truth and I'll have been love with Tyrese Maxie all over again we beat the Celtics yeah well I won by one oh that's nice I'm going to have to watch the match go to my lights. Yeah, he was, he missed two clutched free throws, but we did win the game. Nice.

Yeah, I'm going to have to watch some of the highlights. But yeah, Embed, uh, how did we get rid of him? You just stunk it up. Yeah. We're going to draft the center every year until we can retire. We're going to do the log jam again. Yeah. Eagles beat the Vikings

Yeah Turns out Jalen Hertz can throw the ball Yeah, he can throw the ball And all of all the haters I swear, I can tell who's a moron By if I hear the WIP takes repeated to me Because I'm like the sports guy One of the sports teachers

So I can tell the kids whose parents Listen to WIP I'm shocked 40 Nice Yeah, Tyrese is the guy Yeah I have a jersey Yeah

My brain just got derailed I think my men You were talking about WIP takes Yeah about G, Hertz can't throw It's like the fuck The dude can throw

Right Like he has Off games just like anybody else He's not a Tom Brady Like fucking Perfect pass rating Every Every game

Yeah he's not that guy And he does need to run more and do they need to get him involved and a little more more play action yeah yeah read options we said this before right but yeah uh Eagles won

so Temple Temple beat fucking Charlotte beat down 4 and 3 so Temple owls are 4 3 we now have our most wins since 2019 where we won 9 games and then in 2020 we won 1 game

well it's a COVID short in season but still it was only one game and then we haven't won more than three games that was the most so Temple Al's yeah like I said four and three the other beach Charlotte 49 14

had four points on one of nine shooting oh great yeah that's your franchise guy right there yeah yeah so Temples 4 and and Penn State's 3 or 4 yep James Franklin's fired

did we talk about that last week I think we did but James Franklin's fired and we won a conference game and you didn't yeah they still have yet to win a conference game Temple plays Tulsa this week so we're away gotta start televising these guys

can't be hiding these owls on the app we're on ESPN plus yeah 330 on Saturday the Navy game was on TV but two more one more win

pity bowl eligible two more wins completely bowl eligible I'll go see a Temple Bowl game I know That would be awesome If I didn't already have a trip planned Because it's usually a round one

Isn't that New Year's? Yeah Yeah It's all week I'll be in country redacted I'll be in place redacted Oh I know what place that will be Yep

You could do your costume dress up again No Yes you will No I won't No copromat. Cute little costume. No copermont. Little nose and whiskers.

No copromat. So who did Penn State lose to this time? I think they actually won, didn't I? No, they lost Iowa by one point. Oh, that's right. I saw that game. Yeah. They're playing Ohio State.

They're going to buy. Oh, they're going to lose Indiana, too. Yeah. Which is still to be determined. Well, the time is. I guess they were thinking maybe Penn State would be good. Yeah, they're getting flexed. They're shoving that on Big Ten Network.

Yeah, hopefully Rutgers can pull one off against Penn State. That'd be pretty fun. Yeah. That would be, yeah. They got number one Ohio State, number two, Indiana. So they beat Nevada, FIU, and Villanova, and then lost to Oregon, UCLA, Northwestern, and Iowa. They're going to lose Ohio State.

Yeah. They're going to lose the Indiana. They're not going bowling this year, I don't think. Yeah. Do they beat Michigan State? Maybe. Maybe. I hope they don't.

They probably beat Rutgers, but if they can finish out five and seven, I would laugh. That would be awesome. That would be awesome. Fuck, Penn State. Now and forever. What's that? What's up? What did you say?

What did you say? I said, fuck Penn State now and forever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I agreed with that. Yeah. Okay. Let me get our, get our fucking shit up for this. We're going to be talking a little bit about a lot of bit about sports betting because it's starting to come to a head now. Yeah. So our first, our first sports betting related thing is.

Chauncey Billis got arrested. Chauncey Phillips got arrested and Terry Ruggier. Scary, Terry, baby. and also Damon Jones former player being arrested for being part of an illegal underground

poking ring poker ring I'm part of the poking ring and betting on NBA games can't do that yeah they're also

this is all mobbed up shit yeah yeah mafia link gambling and sports riging schemes yeah banana Gambino and Genovae crime families that's that's rigged poker games the Billups at Al

were allegedly hired to sit there and make things look legit this is some real fucking lockstock two smoking barrel shit with these spy glasses and

mark cards and shit like that but yeah using money laundering this is like big shit and And then also using insider info to bet on NBA games. X-ray tables. So they would provide information on players sitting out and when they would pull themselves out of a game.

And so it was mostly players wagering money on performances and stats. Allegedly, what's his name? Terragir. Faked an injury. Nine minutes after an injury Share that inside information Is Cook and Spiriter Bavis made $200,000 in wages on the under? Yeah, there's several games from 2023 and 2024

that are under suspicion. Yeah, so this is, we've had the... And they've looked into him before and said no rules have been broken. Yeah. So we've had... this is at we had um did we have someone last year it was a one player jonte porter on the it was a NFL player we had an NFL player last year or yes year a year ago basically his career is over um did we have an NBA player last year yeah jontay porter yeah we had yes we had we had him we had

Temple Owls basketball like from two years ago and some other players investigated you know we had Shohotani's personal assistant definitely didn't take the fall

no no no no no no no no no no no no for for Shohai's alleged not betting this is getting more and more common at one point the very idea of a

player betting the mention of gambling was like a discredit to the sport yeah and now the floodgates are open and i saw some post there about some very hypocritical things like ESPN covering this with ESPN bet bet right odds in the bottom in the bottom right quarter right um so this this is this is the biggest one i think we've involved players at the professional level what's that this is the biggest betting scandal to involve players at the professional level. Yeah, this is really big. Yeah. We don't know how deep it goes. We don't know if there's

other players that might come up at during this. MLB players that got got got what's his name? Emmanuel Claus or Clayton. Oh, Emmanuel Claesee. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. So that's, so this is all

it's so easy to fucking bet now. Oh, Isaiah Rogers, I think. Yeah. See, J. Moore. yeah this is this is something that you know and you're talking about now mob involvement too like one of the things you keep the mob the fuck away from your stuff is to not have betting that's true like if you don't have like like there's a reason like the mob thrives in in shit like boxing and in casinos and and the really related sort of things,

lotteries and stuff like that, you know, because they can, they can fix the results very easily. Even if the, and even if it is through an app, right, a third party app that you're betting,

if you have somebody on the inside, it's very easy to do that. Like point shaving has been a thing for a very long time. And it's hard to prove. So, but now that everything, you don't have to go,

we've said this a million times in this podcast. You don't have to go into the shady, fucking sports book. at the casino At the off-track betting Yeah off-track betting Like you should have to feel shame Going to the bedding place

You should And I have a family member I'm going to get too many details Who literally If Someone hadn't died at the right time They would have lost their house Jesus

Yeah Because this family member Was betting so much online And they had so much Like their insurance payment of their death their life insurance pay out paid the

paid the gambling debts and all that shit all that shit so I mean shit man this this can't like we can't have this shit

in our fucking pockets and we'll talk more we'll talk more about that in a second but we'll see what everything turns out obviously everyone's innocent to proven guilty

but this is a big like I said, this is the biggest one. I wouldn't be surprised if something if more doesn't come out. But really, this is something that the leagues have a problem, the leagues have created by allowing these relationships. Yep, completely agree. I was watching the Celtic Sixers game and I was thinking how goddamn depressing it was

when they had the Celtics logo courtside and right next to it's a draft king's logo. Yeah. Like that, that, if I was. was the owner of a team I would say that shit's nowhere near my fucking not as long as I can avoid it exactly I don't want any of that shit that's like having porn

like that's like having the fucking playboy logo right that it should be equivalent to that like it should be considered declass A to have that I know but we're at again we're at this point like in the late stage capitalism where there's there's no new innovation to be made so we'll just weaponize

people's addiction. Right. Which is very predatory, obviously. I mean, look at these ads. We're going to look at these ads and they're going to be in like, I don't know when this will be banned. In 30, 40 years in media criticism classes, they'll be showing these ads. Right.

And people will be just as shocked as fucking, we would be now at Joe Camel. Right. I've done, I've done actually done media criticism lessons in my English classroom. I do it around the Super Bowl every year and I said this is the only time in any class you will be able to see a cigarette ad or you'll be allowed to see a beer ad

but we're doing it for a reason and like why is Budweiser show why is there a fucking puppy dog and a horse is a Budweiser ad? Why is there a camel smoking a cigarette? Why is this cigarette ad say nine out of ten doctors prefer this? What are they trying to sell you?

Like why are they saying so why is this all they have all these athletes on these fucking ads they play them between every fucking should not be allowed to do Draft King's ads

Yeah you should not have that should be you're banned from the sport Yeah It should not be a partnership It should not be something that the fucking players association is goddamn invested in

Because they all are All the big sports You know They all have partnerships with it Right It's vile Yeah And during the

During it's showing These ads where like Oh we walked into this weird out-of-town bar but the game was on and then we started betting and everyone was pulling for our bets it just with fucking Don Draper narrating it

I've seen that and it just makes me furious yeah it's like a beer ad like drink this we're all gonna have a fun time no we won't except at least when you drink a beer

you lose money but you least you get drunk right there is a chance of a fun time Right. You will, you will ruin your life. Both of us have done it. Yeah. Like, you've, you've been the casinos, obviously. I don't know what you're talking about. We can't talk about the bands. But casinos are sad, man. I always like to go into the casino on Christmas to see humanity at its lowest.

They're fucking depressing. Of course, there's all these lights and things. You can't tell what time of date is. That's on purpose. Yeah, you got lots of free drinks and all that. You don't get the free drinks anymore, man. It sucks. Oh, what the fuck? The fuck is this? What's the point? That's what I'm saying. Because you used to be able to like, oh, yeah, like, I have $20.

Right. I'm going to go do a couple slots. And that's all I'm going to spend. If I win money, I win, like, that's like my grandma. My late grandma did that. That was her thing. I'm going down with like $10. I'm doing penny slots.

When I'm done, I'm done, I can only spend the money I make. Right. and that I can understand that was like her thing for fun you get free drinks you hang out with her friends like I can get that but right but there's so much or if you're good at cart like you're good at poker or whatever I can get that right like I'm decent at cards yeah yeah um or you you know how to count cards and blackjack I do but that's different yeah good luck with with like the eight decks they use now I know that's why I don't that's why I suck Yeah. Fuck you, Tom. Yeah. But I mean, like, that I can understand, but everything else attached to the casino sucks. Right.

Maybe I'm being a little too Puritan. No, I don't think so, man. It's all, it's all, it's all, it's all just like the house, the house always wins. House always wins. Yeah. You're not that smart. No. And, and it prays on this, this, this hope of, of, I'm going to get rich quick, right.

I'm going to get rich quick. deal yeah oh this machine's been been I've loaded this machine it's ready to go it's like no you don't you that's not how it works it's not how it works it's random chance every single time it's a random chance you know it's it's I'm ranting too much about the fucking casinos but like no no go for it you should have to you the bet like I said you have to go to the racetrack or to go to the fucking casino the bet that's really where it should be it should be something that is not accessible to kids it's it's it's pernicious um and here now we have NBA players involved with a fucking mob and it's not and it's not and it's not like a like a

victimless crying because there's talk about people like robbing people there's money laundering and all this shit so there's there's violence afoot as well um yeah and i mean it's a matter time if somebody gets like mass there's like a mass murder yeah so so this is on a CNN they said um pro sports gambling suspensions for parathletes on the rise

so they said since the Supreme Court has declared bans on sports gambling unconstitutional in 2008 at least 23 professional players or coaches have been suspended or permanently banned from the leagues in sport for sports betting violations right while no major league professional athletes have faced gambling related to a disciplinary

suspensions are bans yet this year Cleveland Guardians pitchers Emmanuel Classe and Luis Ortiz had been old paid I mean I said Roger's got banned from the league for a year

he sat out for a year yeah and so Terry Ruggier and and Chauncey Billups are on leave right definitely now

uh yeah we'll we'll give you guys updates as it goes along I'm sure it's going to be over the internet and all that go read up on it um

you know hey hey hey the fucking mom is relevant again you fucking doubted us I love that that's like where the mob's at like right we used to be respectable people we used to be a man of honor

right right right you're a bunch of fucking you you are like medieval European nights but with even less at least ain't a fucking code I know you have a fucking code of a omerta or whatever bullshit like that but okay

I'm gonna get fucking stabbed by a fucking I have cousins, like fourth cousins are in the mob. Have I told you that? Yeah. We had a funeral for a family member when I was young

and this guy comes in I still remember him pulling up he had a driver like black I'm trying to think of what we've been like a mercury. Yeah, yeah like a town car or something like that and he had a pinstripe suit on

and he had the booting ear and all that shit and I'm like, who's that yeah my grandma was like oh that's uh your cousin like he's my he's my dad's brothers uh like down so like right great great cousin right or great you know one of my great great uncles kids whatever right and uh i was like i was like oh why is he have like why is he so fancy like that she's like well you know he's in he's in the he's in the he's in the mom apparently and that's why I learned what the mob was so it was young my I have two stories about this one is my mom had uncle Vic who got a color TV before anybody else did and said that

it fell off the back of a truck oh yeah yeah yeah and I had a bunch of spending no one could account for and a bunch of income nobody could account for and then my cousin's wife so my cousin's father-in-law runs commercial crash collection in Chicago no you can fill in the blanks there yeah in the municipal waste all right let me pull up the the other article we're not done we're gonna we're gonna bum you fuckers out yeah i i was depressed today for reasons i can't mention that work um so you uh now you're gonna bear the brunt of it loyal hogs yeah yep and i need uh i need to get internet archive up because i don't have rolling stone description um i can't know maybe i can't get work on my phone uh i have oh thank you uh

thank you um internet archive archive dot org it's where you can find all the compromise that leums to lead it no you can just find it just ask matt for it oh why do they go why did this um it loaded that it went like fuzzy got fucky yeah but if I highlighted it works oh okay here we go so yeah we had

there was a rolling stone article it was going to doing the rounds it's an unsafe bet there's now a casino in everyone's pocket for some young men it's a near fatal gamble and there's guys talking about

like mulling suicide people who did kill themselves yeah I'm by suicide I should say yeah they're literally the article starts

it was a tough read The article starts off. Well, I'll link it in the show notes, but, you know, college baseball player who was ready to end it due to his gambling debts. I get the same thing. Yeah, if you highlight it, though. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. The article is just talking about how these sports betting operators are essentially praying. on Gen Z and younger, but everybody, but mostly young men and taking intense advantage. I can tell you. And I think we had a caller. I've mentioned this before. I've heard my students talk about their bets and parleyes, and I say, this is my line.

You're not 21, and I'm a mandated reporter, so please stop talking about this. well you can't i was like i just what i just told you yes i can please stop if your parents are letting you gamble on your phone that's that's child line right so please stop um they are gambling at the lunchroom right and then they mention this on there's depressing yeah they're doing parlays and stuff like they have the apps on their phone they just have like their dad's credit card you know i don't i i i i i have i don't gamble and i'm pure for it man yeah um we're just in it for the love of the slop yeah they they they one of the things that the article goes into is um five five like these five leg parles yeah exactly

where they and they advertise them like oh man if you hit all five legs man you're gonna be winning a lot of money um five percent less than five percent of five leg parlays uh hit so good luck with that. There is so much money. So eight years ago, here's a quote from the article, right? Eight years ago, Americans placed about $5 billion in sports bet. Last year, that number has zoomed to $150 billion. Jesus Christ.

And this Rolling Stone estimates that by 2008, that Americans will have lost a trillion dollars betting on online sports gambling a trillion dollars that is incredible we could be on fucking Mars with a trillion dollars but instead we're wasting

it and it's going to a like no overhead what overhead besides their ads the app right what a small amount of server space yeah just facilitating bets

it's I mean it is a fucking license to print money yeah um it's it's the um the article goes into how um they intensely target the the user patterns to get people to bet more um so they're like like how like say Reddit or Facebook or Twitter etc will use your data to come to give you to give you shit we'll also to give you shit that it thinks you'll like. Right. Then,

I was like, I have a funny thing that I don't know to that. But so will draft Kings to give you offers and ads of things that they think you'll click on. And bonus, bonus, oh, get a thousand dollar bonus bets. All this kind of shit.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's and it's taking advantage of our society's level of sports. I do want to say algorithm-wise, I love the site Thrift Books, great company, but I looked up one urban romance novel

by accident, and now I am getting recommendations for something like the Ebony Rose an urban romance novel. Like I told you to stop fucking the books Tom Their pages are so soft God it's like velvet I mean hey look the girl in the cover is pretty hot

Like I gotta lie she's AI Tom She'll never love you That's not what my AI girlfriend said We only we like we haven't even got into Because we were a sports podcast lesson We haven't even talked about the AI stuff Like the AI relationships things I had my first student

I heard like yo yo do you hear what so and so Dude, so he's got AI girlfriend. You should make, I'm like, I don't want to hear this. Why are you talking about this in my class? Stop. This is English class. Shut up. I wish you were talking about sports.

I don't want to hear about anyone's AI girlfriends. That's actually really sad. But I can't say that part. I'm like, please, I just don't want to hear that. I don't want to bully. You know, like, dude, this is like. He bet more than a million dollars. He says a long shot prioritizing props.

He's not sure how much that was last. But he concedes that it was a lot. He stole cash from his parents I don't know if he sold him to Greenville and go to them to stop get a little and see if he can never reply. Yeah. And then this, the article says it starts with teens getting dad's bank account, you know, in his ID.

Check your bank account. Listen, dad's parents of any gender that listen to this podcast, go check your bank. See if you're kid, do you have a teen? Have they been betting? Check that. check that account i i do want to say just as like a hopefully a funny aside i was talking to uh rindy about sports gambling because like she does it once a season where she places a bet all

the sixers eagles flyers and phillies to all win which is like it places like 10 bucks on it it's like it's like a 50 000 pound she's like one year this is gonna hit uh and then she's like she's like i use the money for the bonus bets and one runs out i don't gamble anymore um and that's how i bought a boston scott jersey one time because of the boss and scott anytime touchdown I'm not done. Oh, sorry. But there was like a warning signs in your boyfriend. She saw a TikTok and she's like, are you?

And she like pulled me aside. She's like, hey, are you like gambling? And I was like, no, like can go check my bank out. You check your bank account. Check both her credit cards and all that. Go for it. She's like, well, you know, they say like if your boyfriend starts caring about meaningless slop football games and I was like, baby, I'm in it for the slop.

Yeah. Yeah. I want 10 punts. she's like she's like so we're just you're making me watch georgia stand on a thursday because you hate me not because you're losing money yes i want to i want to see i want to see eight fumbles in one game yeah i you want to see the worst that sport has to offer i i was i was at the game where the phillies won on walkoff catchers interference against the socks yes and zach and i started chanting feed me the slop yes that is that's yeah yeah yeah

That's, but it's funny. It's funny how the innocent, the innocent sicko is targeted. Yes. Oh, all right. Here we go. This is betting on sports, sports, uh, on college campuses is searched to 75% of all. Yeah, that's crazy. And so that's a lot of illegal bets.

6% of students are addicted to gambling. Jesus Christ. That's grim. Yeah. that's yeah again this guy this guy is talking about the ex baseball players like yeah was in the hospital they hooked me out to a bunch of IVs and i got my phone back and he gambled his last hundred dollars yeah yeah on the NBA finals um it's it it's it's grim man it is um well like I said it's a long article we'll put that in there um

It's the leagues showing that they really don't give a shit about any well-being. We are customers. We are people to be fleeced. And I would rather be fleeced with tickets and expensive beers than with like gambling. Yeah. Honestly. Fleece me that way. Yeah.

Lie to me. I don't care. Sell me the nine, the nine-nine challenge, which was one 24-ounce beer poured across nine cups. Yes. You fucking cheap. bastards. I saw it. I saw it with my own two eyes. Yeah. What? It was $55, by the way. I could have to $9.99 for $9. I can do it with $9. You get a six-pack. He's six-pack with the shittiest beer possible. Yeah. We're going way below Genesee. What? Yeah. What would

be the worst fucking beer you could find? Like beast ice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bud ice is up there. Bud ice. Oh, my God. Get bud ice. Get not even like Nathan, not even a good Nathan's. No, you're doing like bar five hot dogs. Store brand.

Yeah. Or below. Do you remember Pathmark, no frills? Yeah. Pathmark no frills hot dog. All the hot dogs. Happy farms or whatever they call their hot dogs. Actually, I bet you the Aldi ones are decent.

But, um, yeah. This, this, uh, this, this one, uh, this, this, this one, uh, passage here. Every major sports league filed football's lead selling their data for a slice of sports spinning pie. The effect on problem game, which is catastrophic. I went from Bet a Moni Lons on baseball games to bet

in the number of runs scoring ever in. Says Frankie, a client of Levant's, this late 20s with a South Philly brogue and a shiny widow's peak. Yeah, they're, they're this sports bar in Philadelphia suburb picking it taste for wings and waffle fries.

So that's a they ate at a PJ PJ Willahans. Yeah. That's a grim place to have a conversation about killing yourself. Oh, my God. Any money at the end of them all I'll flipping the fan duels casino.

Then it's slots and backjack till I bust. And now I'll bet Chinese ping pong at 3 a.m. Good Lord. Don't gamble, kids. Yeah. Stop. You're not going to win. You're going to lose.

anyway like I said we'll put the article in go read it you can use internet archive to do it or whatever it puts a human face on the on the shit that we're in this guy was really brave

Andrew Douglas the guy who's named and photographed for the story that's a that's a brave guy yeah and his sort of his sort of thing at the end is like he hopes that someone hears it and it's and you you fix this shit before you before you do something and people die you're that dog no oh okay it's just me all right maybe I'm hallucinating again

oh maybe it's the white claws white monsters sir white monsters oh sorry you have a stressful day no I feel I've never felt so alive oh okay all right so yeah don't bet kids don't gamble all right let's talk let's get into some fucking DMs I want to read this one

go ahead hey Tom and hey Liam and Tom it's me the guy who called Doug Ford a Lard Monster I forgot to put my name at last time it's Lucas he had to clarify the stuff I mentioned on the episode Rob Ford died of fat cancer

was mayor of Toronto smoke crats with migrants sexually harassed co-workers etc Doug was a drug dealer as a child and is not a better person as premiered our version of Ontario. Anyways, fuck Penn State.

Fuck America. Defund the police and defund the Leafs. Bye. He died of fat cancer. He was apparently a real bastard. They all are. Why are the impot? Like, why do you elect these people?

What is going on in Ontario? Um. All right. Have fun reading this six paragraph voicemail or text message. We have Rashine, but Rashine's name on Discord is Noble Hiko Obayashash. The boeotayashi is Roshin, and Roshin is capitalized. You all right, man?

Someone in the house? Well, they're going to be introduced to Castle Doctrine. We got Roshin. Hey, Tom, Yee, Liam. Cavs started their season tight face planning against the next on your 19-11, fucking themselves with turnover, streaky offense, and channeling their inner shack from the foul line. They gave up double digits, fought their way back to one,

gave up double digits, fought their way back to a brief lead. They gave up double digits the third time. and did not recover. We're missing half of our core four and Darius Garland and Max Struss. Both injured, Garland, should be relatively back to him, but Struss is going to be out for them for months. Meanwhile, in the last season, we did pick up Lonzo Ball. Good luck.

For Isaac Okoro and Larry Nance, Jr., came back for a second cast. I don't like Larry Nance, Jr. Alonzo Ball, I just love that you get his dad, too. You know. Yeah, I like Larry Nance, Jr. He's fun. Guardians made their first off-season transaction, re-signing catcher Austin Hedges for a year. Hedgy is a natural clubhouse leader in an absolute joy.

And though he did come in with a few clutch hits here and there late in the season, I'd rather be hired as some, I'd much rather be hired as some sort of coach instead, which is where I believe his talent truly lies. That's good catcher is a good coach material. Yeah. Because they got him. Yeah. Emmanuel Claisse's attempt to get some winter league gambling have both been denied.

First, he was denied by Lidom. That's the Dominican Winter League. and then he did sign with Venezuela's LBVP Tebrones de la Guara before the Guardian's org swiftly put the kibosh on that he and his gambling buddy Lurice Ortiz sued lead on him for a couple days ago claiming their bands violate their due process under Dominican law

we'll update as the story develops go Cavs, go Cards, go Bards, go Blue Jays, go birds, fuck the Dodgers, fuck Class A and Ortiz, fuck the Browns, fuck Jimmy Haslam, fuck Ohio State, fuck Penn State I thought Graham fuck Grand Plainter stupid Nazi ass Not wrong

How do you not know you have an SS tattoo You stupid fucking moron I know a Marine I'm very close to Marine He has two dumb tattoos They're not Nazi tattoos But they're dumb tattoos And he regrets them

And that's how you know Yeah exactly All right next Yeah so you don't get the fucking totem cough And then cops say oh Whoops Oopsie You get that covered

Once you find out with that actually means. Just saying. So fucking, fucking fed. Avoid making another Federman mistake. Please.

All right. We got a couple voicemail. So we got Charlie. Let's listen to Charlie. Hey, guys. Charlie from Roxborough.

He him. Yeah, Liam. Hey, Tom. Uh, slowly up the union and the regular season with a loss

in Charlotte. Temple did be their Charlotte. But the Union lose two nothing. Both Charlotte goals came in the first half. Both one, the first one was a ball over the top that the Ty Wagger didn't react to. And then Charlotte crossed it through the mouth of goal to the other side

and put it in. The second one was another. Charlotte stretched to the defense. Side line the sideline found the open guy on the opposite side of the field. Everybody was ball watching. and the prolet player put it in for 2-0. Union did have over 20 shots about six of them were on frame, but none of them went in.

Even Kevin Sullivan had a great chance late even though Union 2 will start their playoff season tomorrow so he probably won't be playing in that because he played over 30 minutes in this one. They'll get the winner

of the 8-9 match up between Chicago Fire and Orlando City. Union did get the double over Chicago and got four points off of Orlando earlier in the season. I haven't played Orlando in April. But Orlando is the tougher team, but they'll be on the road against Chicago. The fire or the better matchup for the union, given their high back line, the union has exploited.

you don't pour nothing at home in the summer. So we'll see. Leon Messe gets golden booting probably the MVP. A lot of tough matches in the Eastern Conference, but the Union will avoid most of those. But we'll see. Later, Fouts. Bye, Charlie.

Yep, thanks, Charlie. Yeah, like I said, they're going to play the Chicago Fire, so we'll see how they do. Yeah, shout's out, Union. hopefully uh fucking uh we need we need something for well we won this rule so we can't bitch you too much but no we're still well yeah yeah we need we need some we need some joy um i'm going by by titles we have uh alien movie uh yeah okay let's hear from alien movie um alien movie here pronounce she and her i don't want to jinx it but it's almost

half time on sunday the 19 and the birds go birds are looking pretty good against the vikings I cannot say the same for the over-the-air television out here, though. There's clearly some kind of bias at play because the compression artifacting and low bit-rate shenanigans are making my eyes bleed. It's terrible. Then I flip over to the Chiefs game, and of course the picture is perfect. So, discussion question, is it piracy to yonk the HD stream of the game if it's also available over the air? Who cares if it is? No.

Go birds. Go birds. All right. We have one. no two who cares i i am someone who believes that when i buy a book i'm entitled to a free digital copy yeah that's that's what the that's the courts have mostly found yeah the problem you get into with because i actually have a case law expert on this yeah as you can imagine you've seen my flex server yeah is that like you're allowed to archive stuff you own but not necessarily to share

it but they'll they'll get my flex server for my cold dead hands yeah also it's your personal private server. Yeah. Anyone who's listening and might be concerned about that, that's a personal private server. You know, that's your own archive, right? You're allowed to do that. Yep. Yeah, and I'm all my digital copies of my books.

I scan them. Do you? Yeah, for personally. Oh, yeah. No, I'm definitely not going to Libjet and downing an ePUB. Um, uh, uh, oh, excuse me. Oh, daddy. also it is not piracy if it is a journal article all journal articles should be free yeah um also we don't care

i don't i yeah i genuinely don't i will buy things that i like i the gaming industry is rotten and i have no like an indie game i yeah would feel bad like like i bought starduth rally valley three fucking times but um i will pirate an EA game because i don't give a shit. Right. Like I will never buy the Sims 4. Do you have the Sims 4? Oh, I have the Sims 4.

I go through phases where I play it or not. I always go back to the Sims 2 now. That sits on my PC with my 800,000 mods. Of course. That all are stacked precariously on top of each other. They don't explode the game. A lot of toll breaks. Yeah, that stays there.

All right. We also have Italian neighborhood. But again, these are all the, what Google is saying, the first line of your voicemail. So we have Italian neighborhood. She had her almost forget about 10 states. Okay, bye. Yeah.

Very good alien movies slash Italian neighborhood. Yeah, Italian neighborhood. Yeah. Fucking Italian neighborhood. They're fucking calling into the, to the fucking. Stop it. Stop what the voice is. The fucking radio.

They're calling to the fucking radio now. Jesus Christ. We used to be in a honor. Fucking computer this. Fucking computer that. It's all fucking computers anymore. all right we have willow now hey this is willow she her pronouns i'm calling from bellingham washington being born in and around the Seattle area a big seahawks and

mariners fans so i appreciate your uh your support for the mariners uh we lost our game last night which i don't actually watch baseball because it's kind of boring as fuck but i pay attention to this course so hopefully we win the game tonight and actually go to the world series or also I'm just going to kill myself the city that I'm in like a college town I'm not going to college I'm just here but the mascot is the Viking I kind of root for the Viking as like a solidarity

even though our Vikings don't even have a football team anyway that's pretty good I'm really fucking annoyed and disappointed in the Vikings recently quit fucking story in Carson once he said so fucking bad yeah we know like how is he throwing back to back in

a pick six and then very like immediately I think it was the next play it was that was a crush of once we knew it loved get your fucking shit together man please fucking start JJ McCarthy after refusing to sign to sign Sam Darnold

and letting him go like rock fucking hard in the Seahawks and now you have of J.J. McCarsby, which has only looked good for one quarter, but they just won't start him again, which, like, God, even if he isn't that good, please just give me fucking anything else that Carson won. I fucking hate Carson once so much.

Every time I watch him, he just does not look good. Every time I listen to him, he just does not sound good. No, he's CTE. I need to actually watch the condensed of the Eagle Cycling game yesterday because I just listened to it at work, but I'll probably do that after I finished smoking this joint. Anyway, throw to fucking A.J. Brown Moore. I think he had...

Yes. Yeah, we know. Many of you're saying this. I know he had that one touched out in the beginning, which I think was his first and only touch for, like, a fucking while in the game. It, like, God, they put together, like, actually a really good opening drive, like, chewed up so much fucking cool. fuck um you say cron through to a j brown do that shit more it's just so frustrating every time i like tune into an eagles game it's like sometimes they're putting together an awesome

fucking drive and sometimes they don't know what the fuck they're doing like figure it out you just won a super bowl yeah anyway that's about all that's how we feel bye bye well thank you uh I looked at what to do in Bellingham. What is there to do in Bellingham? There's a big rock garden. Oh, okay. There's a Marine Life Center. There's a boulevard park.

It says dogs allowed. Okay. And there's an Asselin brewing company named after the line, I guess, from Narnia. Sure. And then there's a distillery. Okay. Apparently a museum of electrical innovation. So it's great.

Isn't Bellingham? why is that in my mind for some reason? Is there like some like neo-Nazi shit up there or something like that? Why is Bellingham in my mind is like a like a like a like a like a like a like a hellhole? I could be completely wrong. Is Boeing up there? No, Boeing's in Everett, right? Yeah.

Western Washington University in the southern terminus of the Alaska Marine Highway. Hmm. Okay. For some reason, though, there's, like, I have Bellingham's in my brain for some reason. I don't know. Anyway, but thanks again, well, we have, we have Sorry, it's Wayne. It was the first line in the transcript. So let's listen to, let's listen to Wayne.

Hey, Javier. It's Wayne. For now, T.M. Call on a recap, sports. Isn't that our job, Wayne? Anyone who's still watching baseball. is going to be pulled for the Fuljays, as well as me because I might have improperly cursed everybody with another Dodgers World Series. Yeah, thanks for nothing, Wayne.

But anyway, Liverpool finally pulled off their first win in five matches, bidding Einzrak for 5-1 in the Champions League, finally stopping a four-game losing streak, which is the longest losing streak, Liverpool has had, in a number of years. They included two. Last-minute losses against Crystal Palace and Chelsea in the Premier League. A pretty embarrassing one-nil defeat to Galatasso-Rai in the Champions League. And as if that wasn't a kick in the football, they lost to Manchester United at Adfield for the first time in nine years.

Nine years, Manchester United has gone without a win. at Anfield until last weekend. So thankfully, Liverpool got the win this weekend. They're sitting in fourth in the Premier League, which is not great. They're basically on the edge of falling out of a Champions League spot. So hopefully they get their shit together. As for Bohemians, Bohemians, unfortunately, lost two of their last three matches. They draw against St. Patrick's Athletic on Monday, but they lost against Galway United

2-0 Friday. So they're now currently sitting in fourth, and for the League of Ireland, you need to be in the top three to get to the European qualification stage. so unless both beat Shelver and they're able to jump them in the table it's not looking good for

Bohemian Jeropian title hopes and anyway Rutgers died against Oregon which is not shocked which was as expected at this point

if they lose the Purdue it's the season's pretty much over we're just going to be played for prosperity face. And as always, hope you guys are well. Go Rutgers, Fox Bend State, and free palestine.

Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thanks for the update on the various soccer's around the world. Bellingham, there was a race right there. I put that in our chat. That must have been something. There's something else in my mind. Drop Billingham. It's fucking bothering me.

I can't remember what it was. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway. Anyway. All right. Let's, as Liam's drinking his eighth,

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