Ten Thousand Losses - CFB Conference Craziness ft. Greg & Jordan from BYMPod

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

The Brigham Young Money Boys (sans Kyle, he hates college football, what a nerd) join us on a deep dive into the insane world of college football conference politics. After some banter the boys talk a bit about Trea Turner's standing O before getting into the issues around CFB conference realignments and why they're insane. If you're not a CFB fan, it's still worth a listen as we explain what the hell all of this stuff means for the uninformed listener. We wrap up with some listener messages and DMs. Be sure to header over to Patreon to check out our bonus with Jordan on the saga of EA Sports' NCAA/CFB series.  Check Out BYMPod at http://brighamyoungmoney.com and https://twitter.com/BYMPodcast  Give their hosts a follow! Kyle: https://twitter.com/kylypso Jordan: https://twitter.com/SLCLunk Greg: https://twitter.com/DadShammdad   Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Liam: https://twitter.com/notliamanders0n Tom: https://twitter.com/tohickontpain  Leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses 

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So I don't know if that's allowed in the Mormon era. We don't get a lot of betting in Utah because gambling is still illegal. Okay, yeah. So it's like draft fuck sports book. Yeah, we're still under yeah we're still under mormon sharia law here so we can't do that oh but by the way speaking of draft fucks because there was a company that came that came uh asking for us to to talk about them it was like acorn but for sports betting and we called them draft Fox, which actually was pretty, this is Jordan's face right there.

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as you fuck it up right or it's like exactly university blows it for you it's like my grandma used to like save her pocket change and then take 20 dollars and go on the the the grandma express down the ac oh hell yeah yeah yeah and use and penny slots i guess they're nickel slots now but yeah it's It's for all of us who aspire to be the real-life version of Adam Sandler and Uncut Gems. Let me just live my life in a perpetual state of cocaine-fueled anxiety while trying to hit a three-tier. Like a 13-leg parlay, right?

Yeah, parlay. That includes Joel Embiid getting 23 rebounds, Jalen Brunson getting over eight assists. And I don't know. Boston Scott's going to run 100 yards. Jalen Brown learning how to use his left hand. Hey, hey, hey. Boston Scott, anytime touchdown.

That bet paid $140 last season. Thank you. I didn't say touchdown. I said 100 yards. I took the – it's free money. You know, here, welcome back to bettingwithliam.com. Yeah, first 200, it's like getting a casino comp up front. You can either roll it forward or take the cash and go.

Julian Edelman got Liam's kids through college. Yeah. Will the Patriots draft another white receiver they already have just going all in on cooper cup oh just what's his name that's on uh oh the guy cole what's his name maybe that's not it oh the guy for the cowboys yeah you know who i'm talking about i forgot who you're talking about he's like a total anti-vax like manga shithead who was like very outspoken during the pandemic after he was out of the league and blamed like the wokeness of the dallas cowboys in the nfl yeah blacklisting him from the nfl not because he was like 24 and showing obvious signs of like cte damage

cole beasley who is now on the giants is he really yeah yeah yeah i absolutely look forward to a son braddock turning him into six pieces of paper yeah just spearing through his body amazing jerry jones known sjw sleeper agent um he was in that photo where he was like on on the other side of the desegregation you know he was for segregation he was actually back there he was trying to break his way through and help the the young black children through um not he wasn't jeering at them as the photo shows. I like you. Yeah, you took us for a walk there, man. Yeah.

Oh, this has been unmedicated time for a couple of days. Oh, no. Yeah. Thanks, 5-inch shortage. All right. So, hello and welcome to another episode of 10,000 Losses, the only Philadelphia sports podcast that exists. I guess fuck you, right, Ricky Sanchez. I'm your host, Tom Payne.

Fuck the process. My pronouns are he, him, with me. It didn't work, dude. It didn't work. With me is my, I almost said with me is my pronoun. With me is my co-host, yay. He. He. That's he and him, but combined he'll he he and him combined him i am a pronoun now i have ascended my program is liam i have ascended language or transcended sorry i am beyond your

earthly mechanisms of communication i'm actually hearing this from within my own skull. You are. Alright. So, yay Liam. His pronouns are... Hit him, baby. But they're capitalized because he's a god. And then you've heard two other voices. Who could they be?

You may or may not know them, but we have guests from... I don't think we can get all three of them on at once i don't think it's allowed but two-thirds of the bring them young money podcast we have jordan and greg say hello hello everybody it's uh wonderful to be talking to you from far out west i'm actually glad hi everyone it's greg i'm actually glad there we go the other one's jordan yeah i'm really glad kyle's not here because all kyle does is make fun of me every time we go on other podcasts so as he should also my pronouns are he him and um yeah uh lowercase i'm i'm i'm not too proud

uh yeah i think the last time i was on this show speaking of which kyle actually said that my pronouns were he himbo yes he did oh there are there are there are worse things to be uh there are there are that episode i had to say that that bonus if you haven't listened to it go listen to it uh not only does the ukraine war start in the middle but that was the most i laughed while editing because it was really just dumb just dumb shit listen if you want if you want guests to really just lower the iq of both the hosts of the show and the audience my dms are open holy shit i forgot about that liam how many like current events have you like live streamed through essentially a lot like a lot just uh ruth bader ginsburg dying personal favorite wait wait you're telling me for the first time yeah yeah it just like i was behind the scenes of that i was in a hotel room when we recorded that.

Somewhere in New England. On a shit 4G, not even Wi-Fi connection. Just like my fiance's laptop was hooked up to my phone. Was that the one where you were flushed in the toilet or something like that? No, that's a different one. Oh, okay. I've recorded from many hotels, Tom. Yeah, I've recorded from none.

Justin's laughter and that still haunts me. Oh, me too. Well, there was a live stream that Justin did for Franklin. And I forget what... Alice made some joke and I went Joker mode. And everyone's like, oh, no, they got Roz again. But Roz is talking over the laughter. It's clearly not Roz.

He can't laugh like the Joker and talk at the same fucking time. But yeah. All right. Yeah, so we got guests on. We're going to talk about stuff that they're interested in, which is college football, but we'll get to that. Announcements. We'll be recording a bonus if the storm doesn't kill us all. liam's in a tornado watch or we're both in a tornado watch i don't know if liam's in

a tornado warning i don't know what i'm in man there's a um i get about 10 minutes until the storm hits me uh but we'll if you two go down we'll carry the flag for you i i can talk about the kelly green jerseys i don't know what else there is about Philly sports, but we can keep that going. All right. Voicemail, call 267-371-7218. Give us your name and pronouns at patreon.com slash 10,000 losses for $1. You fucking cheapskates who don't want to listen

to those bonus episodes. It's a fucking dollar. I actually really am going to need that money for student loans because they want me to pay $1,000 a month. I got to call them tomorrow and tell them there's no fucking way that's happening. You're going to have to send a hit squad after me.

You were telling me about that. That's insane. Yeah, so fuck that. Anyway, so in news, turns out Philly sports fans aren't as mean as they say we are. No, we did a good thing. Even though my Quizzo team name on Friday was Trey Turner sucks and we won. Oh, you traitor.

So instead of booing Trey Turner because he's going to be here for like fucking 11 years. Yeah, I know. Until he's like 48. I know. we just, the, the, the Philly captain organized a campaign where we were going to do positive reinforcement for Trey Turner and, and tell him what a good, sweet Twinkie was and, and give him a standing ovation.

And yeah, so like the last three games, he's hit two home runs. He's got like three doubles. So I think positive reinforcement works. We're doing it. Yeah. So thanks to Philadelphia for not throwing shit at him, apparently.

But the debate online and on sports radio talking about that was like, what the fuck are we doing? Well, they're not cursing, but like, sorry, Greg. Sorry, I didn't mean to curse there. What the – are we doing? We soft town anymore anymore we used to be tough around here none of this you know so i think you know thanks thanks for your comment you know i miss the delco accent so much you useless scumbags yeah yeah yeah i can't i understand

why why we all just throw batteries out over that why do you have to do that why tell me why because it bothers you it makes me so mad i just i look at my levels and i think i bet i could drive back to place redacted town town redacted, and strangle him with some sort of mic cable and then make it back. And then I wouldn't have to split the Patreon. You get the whole $200 to yourself.

I'm taking myself out to dinner, baby. You're going to Vegas. I'm going to Outback Steakhouse, my guy. He's going back to online betting. Let it all ride on that boss's sky.

100. That 14-yard fan duel's calling me. Yeah. Yeah, I think Akron's going to upset. Akron's Akron, baby. Did you say Akron? Whatever.

Bowling Green versus Toledo. I want the over. Yeah, Wednesday Maction, baby. Abso-fucking-lutely Wednesday Maction. Just the most degenerate-ass shit. And I don't even get paid to watch that. I just like it. Just calling Vegas sportsbook,

seeing which ones will take action on if Temple can win the CFP. Why not? Let's see what we can do. Yeah, right. They managed to get Temple to play Pitt. We're going to see who wins the old rivalry game. Oh, God. We're going to lose by 30, dude.

We always fucking do. Remember that time we were two minutes away from upsetting then number 25 Notre Dame? Or number 7 Notre Dame? Remember that? Remember how good 2015 was? Is that 2015 or 2014? Actually, I think it was 2016.

It was 2015. No, 2013. It wasn't 2013? Yeah. Oh, man. I remember believing. No, 2013. It wasn't 2013. Yeah. Oh, man. I remember believing. Oh, man. Sorry.

I was bringing up a live stream of Sox, Kansas City Royals. Yeah. Go put your money on the Royals for that one. Go put all 200. I'm not putting my money on anything. Stop it. Yeah. Go put it on Zach Granke.

By the way, Zach Granke almost was able to bat, and they pinch hit for him yesterday. That kind of fucking sucked. I wanted to see a pitcher hit. And our last bit of baseball news before we go back to college football. Just a warning, if you don't like college football, just turn the episode off or listen. Yeah, because at least people are funny. Bryce Harper saved a baby apparently there was a lost child and bryce harper didn't like punch him in the face he

helped him why would he punch this mormon dude mormons famously never hit children oh you know they hit their own children like we were like we were talking about before we started rolling, this might be a little peek behind the curtain of Bryce Harper, but he actually donated quite a bit of money to Operation Underground Railroad. So this is a man. So saving children is his forte. That's his forte. He's a man who was listening to the sound of freedom and answered the call.

God. You think he saw the movie? He had to have seen the movie, right? He paid it forward. He paid it forward. Yeah. He rented out an entire movie theater in like Chapel Hill. God damn it.

I like that movie theater too. The one by the Morristown Mall. That's a good one. God damn it. I like that movie theater too. The one by the Morristown mall. That's a good one. You got the movie theater in the Morristown. Yeah. That's the one I go to, man. Did you see the sound of freedom?

Liam? No, I saw Oppenheimer and 70 millimeter IMAX. That was pretty good. That's a good one. I'm headed right after this. I listened to you guys talk about it and that was all i needed yeah i don't need to watch it i just yeah i was building i was building

a desk no i was building a dresser while listening to it that's it helped me get through it i think the best review i can give it to is i think i said on that podcast too is it's two and a half hours where you think about any other movie you could be watching. Oh, man. Yeah, don't see that movie. So we have you two on to talk college foosball. College foosball is fun, exciting. Some people say it's better because they're not uppity athletes. No, it's better because it's worse. It's better because it's worse. athletes. No, it's better because it's worse.

It's better because it's worse. That's why. It's better because it's worse. Yes, absolutely. 100%. They don't have a union. That's a principle. They don't have a union. They're starving students.

They're really hungry. A lot of grit there, especially in some of your more Mountain West schools. A lot of lunch pail kids. Yeah, especially outside the SEC. I will say, who among us doesn't enjoy watching someone who's going to be filing our taxes in five years blow out their MCL? Exactly. That's why I look forward to the Duke-Temple game every year.

Man, there's nothing sadder when you're seeing the list of like of players for like a college football team and you see their majors and you're like oh man good luck you're actually going to school like you see him wheeling it off and you had a mental note in your head too it's like oh he majored in communications oh yeah half the uh like the entire linebacker squad of the university of utah just majoring in social or sociology that's be better than criminal justice which is like a lot it's like oh you're going to be you're going to be a corrections officer yeah the entire class you're gonna work at a prison yeah yeah adx florence is the entire second string linebacker core for Auburn.

Just the male version of Nurse Ratched in one show of The Cuckoo's Nest. Those guys can hit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just Kevin Bacon from Sleepers if he was also on Currico. Yeah, if he was on TRT. God damn, this is getting dark.

Literally and figuratively, my case. The college football to prison pipeline. On both ends. On both ends. In the criminal justice system, there are two sides. One's an offensive tackle.

The other one's an inside linebacker. Oh, yeah. These two work together in order to beat the shit out of anyone who tries to get two biscuits in the canteen line. Right. One is in the area of brotherhood. The other is in the nation of Islam.

You'd watch that cop buddy movie. You'd absolutely watch it. Oh my god, yes. They work together to solve crimes in the yard and make sure that the non-affiliateds are safe. It's the American History X sequel that actually

doesn't suck. That's essentially the plot of 48 Hours if we're being honest. Oh man. All right, we're trademarking this. No one steal that idea. Patent pending. Yeah.

So, college football, right? We were talking about that. What's going on? What's going on? I don't understand. Why are all the conferences changing? Because the Pac-12 ran out of money and nobody wants to be their friend anymore

you know it's really sad too because Bill Walton's too old to be rehomed so we're going to have to euthanize him I'm sorry everyone but it's been a good ride and well they're going to put me down next to my dog.

We got laps of love for him. We're going to get his handprint. I love Bill Walton. I love, I love to like being drunk at like 1130 on a Wednesday. I just hear it. Oh, that's terrible.

Throw it down. Big man. That was the best part of uh like having your university your alma mater be like a part of like the pac-12 was you would just tune in and you'd see your team play and then just also just have bill walton just describe his last ayahuasca trip like it was fantastic all right so uh to bring this i'm'm going to pretend, well, I'm the least informed on college football out of the four of us. So let me ask a question. I'm going to assume the uninformed position for our listener. What is a college football?

Money. Money. A lot of it. A lot of money. Unpaid athletes. Giant ass athletic departments. Yeah lot of it. A lot of money. Unpaid athletes. Giant ass athletic departments. The NCAA. Need to quote not make payroll. Hiding up child sexual abuse.

Oh, they love doing it. So what is a conference? Someone explain conferences for listeners. Because they're very complicated. They're extremely complicated they're extremely complicated um you know how in pros it's a lot more simple because there's two conferences for like pro football where you have the american and the national football conferences and play each other and then some sometimes their champions go play in this thing called the super bowl well it's a little less complicated in college because you have a lot more of them and they go to a lot more bowls. That's generally it's just like a bunch of groups of teams that they can play against each other.

Sometimes they die. They exist to negotiate media rights. That is why they exist. That is 100% because the NCAA lost a lawsuit and there and there go conferences were born. Well, and back in the day, these conferences were originally regional groupings of schools. And it was a way of organizing play. And like, you know, like the Ivy League originally was, you know, those that was it was a conference. And I know that there was like, you know, West Coast conferences and East Coast conference.

It was a southern conference. Yeah. I mean, conferences have been around for a long time, but conferences was like you know west coast conference there's an east coast conference and with the southern conference yeah i mean conferences have been around for a long time but conferences as you know them exist as media right negotiation entities yeah and up until like two years ago they were like geographical like geographical mostly yeah mostly and then you just like everyone just went insane then the big 12 was just like, what if fucking WVU played Oklahoma State? Would that be great? It's not. It's not. So we have like the Big Five, right?

They're like the most prestigious conference. Power Five, yes. Power Five, yeah. And so you had the Big Ten, which doesn't have 10 teams anymore, which was like the Midwestern. We're up to like 16 or whatever. Yes, they're up to 16. You have the Big Ten, the SEC, the Big 12, the Pac-12,

and then what's the one I'm missing? The ACC. The ACC. And they. RIP the Big East. Yeah, featuring such historic rivalries as Georgia Tech, Boston College. I've watched a lot of ACC games in my life, man. So those conferences have always kind of been in flux, like teams would leave.

But it would typically be another conference that was within. Because it was sort of like there was an unofficial tier system, right? There was the power conference, and you had like the lower level like the midwest conference right the group of five that's what those are called yeah which is where like temple and yukon are yeah like the conference usa right the american conference usa the american yeah uh yeah and mac right yeah yeah mac yeah max wednesday night mac should the greatest football you'll ever watch all right miami of ohio absolutely demolishing bowling green state good pause i'll show you what it looks like outside my window oh geez it's getting very dark

um all right anyway so this is now no longer. Geography no longer matters anymore. No rules anymore. It is just nationwide for pretty much every conference now. It's literally just turned into fuck you, pay me. Oh, yeah. There are no boundaries. There are no regions. It's just a way to collect as many teams in your conference as possible

that will generate you the most amount of money when it comes to those uh tv and media bargain deals that liam mentioned i mean this is a long time coming too because like yeah 30 40 years ago too as you started having like the like advent of cable television and media rights on that one too like that's why you had teams like penn state stop being independent and that's why you had teams like Penn state, stop being independent. And that's why you had like, Texas has its own TV network.

Like exactly. Yeah. And the mountain was split off from the whack because it was well, yeah. And BYU went independent. It was a bunch of crazy things happened like over the last three decades, which was pretty much led to the logical end point of just consolidation of like all the major teams of like three conferences that if we're being honest two conferences that

pretty much just dictate the entire future of like college football and the media apparatus around it right it sucks as a fan i will say that so so so these these this organization doesn't really consider geography anymore. And teams that you're close, you're nearby would be the teams you're like, you, you play regularly would be a rivalries. So this is eroding a lot of what is the appeal of college football,

which is like these traditional rivalries. Shit. Proximity. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yep. I mean,

for the most part, I mean, we are now forced to be with our conference brethren in BYU, which I have no desire to ever play again. But, you know, I guess the rivalries were born. Getting murked by some 29-year-old white quarterback is just, yeah. Or alternatively, a 350-pound, 6'8 Samoan who runs like a four to like a four to four. Yeah. Yeah.

Some dude just just absolutely blitzing the lights out of you. Man, I used to like when I played high school football in Utah, those were the guys who would just run you the fuck over. And like you would just like you just be on your back, like looking up at the stars. Like I wish I were dead. Yeah. I was the only, uh, I was the only white guy at my college football defensive line.

Yeah. I mean, in high school I was like 190 pound offensive tackle and like, I died a lot. Like there was certain times, like maybe I should just pretend I'm injured. Like this is not good oh that's the time that tom pain plan

no i'm not i'm not i couldn't make second string because of my injury that's that's why as i tell girls i hurt my foot the coach wouldn't put me in he's too worried about remember remember hand down man down except that you all of you is down i i once i once got blitzed by a uh six five clemson recruit i've told this story and i just got the absolute i'm a big boy and i got the absolute fucking doors knocked off me i was just like fuck this i don't want to play ball anymore like i want to go home i am i am paper to this man this is not fun i remember uh the summer i went in my freshman year of college trained my ass off got in great shape you know and i go down after i had gotten i had gotten hurt my senior year of high school. So I go down and play at the junior college level. And I remember I was like, I was, I benched 330 right before I like, I reported to training camp and I was like over the moon excited. I was like, I'm ready for college football.

And the very first day we go into the weight room and I, his name is escaping me. He ended up going on and playing at like some big 12 school a big polynesian kid he's like 6'8 you know 360 the exact guy you just described and he's in the weight room already doing sets of 10 with 315 and i'm just like oh that's my warm-up what the fuck dude i'm supposed to be like the cool like good recruit here and like i gotta go up against this guy no no that no yeah no no nope there are times there are times the human body knows to just call it a day yes i uh i will say i yeah, so the reason is money.

And the Pac-12 is being very, or not the Pac-12. I don't even know how you'd describe it. The remnants of the Pac-12? Yeah, the ruins, essentially. Yeah, the four-pack? The packet in 12? Yeah. The packet up 12 well ac the acc is going to poach cal and stanford but i don't know where the fuck oregon state is supposed to go the

mountain west yeah oh that's it like oregon state washington state they're going to end up in the mountain west like that's as sad as that is dude it does because that's that's program killers for them because everything they had in the pac-12 when it comes to recruits when it comes to coaches when it comes to players when it comes to a cash base gone you're now you're now stuck with like the you're competing against like utah state as opposed to competing meaningfully against like washington yeah and usc so yeah it's uh and the thing that like that really ultimately just bums me out because like here in utah we're pat you know this is pac-12 country um and i've been a fan of the conference even before utah played in it like it's just a fun quirky conference with

weird quirky teams and bill walton calling games and if you've ever had the joy i know you guys have a an east coast listenership so you probably don't listen or watch a lot of uh pack 12 after dark football because wrong it's over at 2 30 in the morning yeah absolutely fucking wrong bud but it is it is always like the most bonker ass game like you end up getting like you'll get always get a game that ends up being like 56 to 53 like a ucla asu shootout that ends on a blocked kick in overtime yeah i mean like the pac-12 like throughout its entire history was where where innovation came to college football. Yeah.

That's where... Like the Washington State, the Air Raid, yeah. Yeah, Air Raid offenses, spread offenses. Things are a lot faster. If you got sick of watching big 10 teams just run the power I. 10-7 bullshit, yeah. Exactly, and the SEC team is running the wishbone. You're like, this sucks.

Yeah, you don't want to watch uh yeah you don't want to bring it back to notre dame box iowa for four quarters yeah what we're gonna do is watch navy uh run the same offense they've been running since 1931 yeah we just have three running backs who's gonna who are we gonna snap into yeah i i will say i i do appreciate like obviously, the innovation of the Pac-12, but can we talk about Navy just running the option over and over and over? All of the service academies doing that? That's one of the things I hated about when Utah

played in the Mountain West was the fact that you'd have to go up against Air Force. Well, we're going to lose probably two of our linemen from their linemen cutting, um it's gonna be like a 14 17 affair just because like it's just gonna be a gigantic pain in the ass we're gonna win but like it's gonna be like like trench warfare and i know i know we just digress but the reason why i went on that little diatribe about loving the pac-12 is that it's like it's legitimately heartbreaking heartbreaking

and like black pilling to see this conference die this untimely death simply because larry scott fumbled the bag when it came to the tv deal like what the fuck were they doing hiring a tennis guy for this yeah they like couldn't get a tv deal from what i understood yeah they couldn't they couldn't get it done and like yeah like when your premiere programs like usc and utah are playing on the pac-12 network where 60 people can watch it that's gonna have like some drastic effects but like it's just ultimately like like everything else in this stupid fucking country like capitalism is what wins out like it's ultimately not about like you know whatever integrity of the conference there is or regional rivalries or anything else like you're always gonna go where the money goes and so now like

i have to give a shit about utah against kansas state yeah like i just don't it's hard to fucking care well this this all started with texas and oklahoma leaving the big 12 for the sec right yeah that's the whole well i mean we can back it up to like a and m leaving for the sec but yes good enough that's like the that's like the big the big two like the big one this time yes yeah all right that was a couple years ago and then that was no that was that was like six months ago. Yeah, and that was a couple years ago. No, that was like six months ago, dude. Yeah, that was a little over a year ago and all that too. And like the Pac-12 had to –

It was announced a long time ago. Yeah. They were talking about it for like four years or something like that. Yeah, I think this is the last year that Tex and Oklahoma are going to be in the Big 12 and they're going to be in the SEC next season. And like the horrible thing about that all is, is that the Pac-12 had a chance to purge the big 12 like they could have taken like a kansas for basketball and the oklahoma state for football and just like destroyed that conference but they didn't do that because like you know

what like they were still trying to negotiate their media deal which never materialized and just the absolute end of the conference in general. They were like, maybe it goes on the CW. Once that was like brought up, it was just like very clear. Yeah. Apparently the media deal got leaked today to the athletic and it was 23 million per teams for Apple. Yeah. And it was all incentive based to kind of like what major league soccer is doing

right now right and like they kept saying like well you can make upwards of 50 million dollars you were never making 50 million dollars because like as much as people want to love the pac-12 like they're not gonna like go out their way to get like apple tv for that well and there's only four teams left the pac-12 and cal and stan Stanford want to join the ACC. Yeah, they're all done. Yeah, it's over. It's done. That media deal's done. I'm sure Apple's just like, eh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, so Pac-12's going to play 13 games. It's the 13th Oregon State-Washington State game. Tim Cook just walking around in wazoo gear. We're going to do it. Their conference record is 13-0. it's all against the same team they played washington state 13 times yeah um but i mean like i think the pac-12 died because of a lot of reasons why like everything is shitty nowadays too is because it was tech ceo brain like larry scott built a three billion dollar headquarters in san francisco for the pac-12 right why right why did you have to have it there cow money baby cow yeah cow money who's also in

like a hundred million dollars worth of debt as well like they upgraded their stadium and everything just went to shit from there so like of course like cow's gonna jump ship next opportunity because they have to like the same reason why washington oregon had to because all of them like leveraged the pac-12's future to build facilities and to upgrade things and to get new flashy things for everything and now they're all leveraged to hell too right so so and i think what the first teams to leave the Pac-12, was it USC? Yeah, USC and UCLA last year. UCLA left for the Big Ten?

Yeah. Big Ten. 10, 16, whatever they want to call themselves. Fucking stupid. Yeah. So, once again, you're going to have two Pacific teams playing against a bunch of, like, Midwest teams, too. How are they going to do in the snow games? You know, I saw someone point out like USC at Michigan.

USC at Michigan is going to be a bloodbath, dude. Cannot wait to see UCLA versus Minnesota in November. Right, exactly. There's a big difference, though. Those will still make money. Think about like the February UCLA at Rutgers games in basketball. Rutgers has been in the tournament the last two years, games and basketball hey rutgers has made the tournament the last two years man i'm not talking about making the tournament i'm just saying the fact

that you have to cross all the way across the country i've seen that they want to try to package them like yeah so so is this is this a fact that now like the the money is so lucrative that like traveling taking the whole team cross countries now just the cost of doing business yes yeah yeah yes yeah i mean that used to be a big deal yeah it used to be but now like utah is in a conference with central florida for some reason and now nothing makes sense i love the big 12 it is the spiritual successor of like the 1996 whack yeah it is very funny to think about like some fresh-faced like blonde point guard from ucla or like playing at ucla from like chula vista california getting acquainted with piscataway new jersey let me just let me read you some of these schools that we've got in the big 12 we've got the byu cougars the bears the cincinnati bearcats the houston cougars now for some reason iowa state kansas kansas state oklahoma for now

oklahoma state texas christian texas regular te regular Texas for now, Texas Tech. Oh, yeah. And the University of Central Florida and West Virginia University. You fucking tell me if that makes sense. It doesn't. And coming soon, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State. Yeah, it's absolutely absurd uh i i look forward to like i said some of these nice like you know southern california schools going to going to minnesota and having to trudge

out a 7-3 game in 18 inches of snow but like what i don't understand is why you're okay with paying 10 former Pac-12 schools individually, but couldn't pay the conference to stay together as a conference. It doesn't make any sense. Although I saw a reply to that was because almost every Pac-12 game ended at like 2 a.m. And it's like, where do you? Yeah, it's like when they have to go to USC. How do you think that's going to work? It's going to be a prime time in California time time it's going to start at 10 p.m exactly they're not

going to play that game at 10 a.m like what the fuck are you talking about 11 a.m kickoff should be fucking illegal it should be that's just that's just when people are just coming in drunk on mimosas anyway you're just having brunch in the parking lot um but like honestly i am kind of excited about the big 12 because it's it that's going to be where the most it's just chaos it's chaos you have like multiple religious sects in there yes i was just gonna say this so you're gonna have like baptist just accusing byu and utah fans of like having horns and that's gonna be amazing for a lot of levels and yeah i i'm excited honestly like it took me a while to come around to it but like the big 12 is going to be the most

it's going to be the exciting conference because it's going to be the weirdest one wreckage of the old like big east uh or like some of the shit with like the a10 where you're just like i didn't know these schools still played sports it's honestly like the big 12 is like is like the johnny cash one piece of the time song except for it's the south it's the southwestern conference the whack the pack 12 all the little bits of all those things that were casted off now like molded together to be this like weird death machine. We're going to go down to three conferences. I think is,

is what I, I kind of predict. Oh yeah. I don't think the ACC is long for this world. You can see that. You can see the cracks in the foundation. The fact that like Florida state's like, get us the fuck out of here.

Yeah. We want more money in, and obviously Cal and Stanford, or I mean mean i get that but like cal and stanford can stand on their own tail eventually i mean it feels a lot like the last gasp of air from like the big e so it's like we'll take san diego state and boise state for football that's gonna work right what i don't understand about the ACC is how the basketball revenue is not enough. You have Duke and North Carolina and NC State in the same conference,

but part of it is also like, what the fuck is Florida State talking about? What the fuck are you talking about wanting more money? You're in the same conference as Clemson. Relax. Yeah, you're making money. I don't know what you're talking about here but also like i just think college basketball's dead like it's like even with duke north carolina and nc state and all the triangle schools that live and die by the sport too is like there's

just no money anymore except for like the first three weeks of march that's it exactly well and it's only a matter of time until the the nba rescinds their uh their age restriction because again there's just too much money to be to be made and like the the the you're seeing people like what scoot henderson did and what lamello ball did by going overseas and playing professional ball and right the the australian basketball league has their like come here and we'll give you a minimum salary and like playing time we talked we talked about this at length last week um we spent like a like a half hour talking about this like like i don't know because

because the nba uh pa has a lot of power and they seem to be pretty firm in not wanting um fresh out of high school in the league i mean uh for now i mean like that's always the case until it's not the case anymore and like as more players just go directly into the g league or into overseas like the the bounds of college basketball just aren't there even with the nil and all that like it like do you want to like have to go to school and like have to like do ncaa compliance stuff and everything like that or do you just want to go like into to school and have to do NCAA compliance stuff and everything like that? Or do you just want to go to Spain and make a quarter million dollars a year? I think you get to live overseas and you get to learn. I said this last week, the last time we recorded.

I know a guy who played in the Egyptian League and the Italian League. That's awesome. He's like, it was sick. I got to learn all this. He's like, I learned a little bit of Arabic. I learned a little bit of Italian. He he's like i got to meet the girls over there and uh because he was uh definitely not the normal guy walking around uh rome or cairo and uh he's like yeah and i got the appreciation for all this food and the culture and everything

like that so i mean that is kind of cool that it would be. Honestly, we said this again last week. What is the one year experience? And you're not getting a real college experience anyway. No, I don't think you are. The thing I do want to talk about real quick, and I think we're sort of reaching the end here naturally. But part of it is that what are the women who play fucking softball supposed to do like we're talking about the mental health considerations for college football which is a sport people like that that prints money right but like volleyball baseball like these sports that aren't really revenue generating they're gonna fly commercial these like especially for these young women are

gonna get back to campus at like 5 a.m and then be expected to. These like, especially for these young women are going to get back to campus at like 5 a.m. And then be expected to go to class. Yeah. Not for these big 10 schools. That's insane. Not every, every school participates in every sport in the same conference.

I know that, but even so dude, like even, even then, like Rutgers, USC, like Rutgers, USC baseball, those guys are gonna

have to fly across the entire fucking country for college sports that's insane and should be fucking illegal there was actually some like i think it was a player from like washington softball team who was just like what are we doing like yeah like even then it's like you could see like how how could you do this to us? Like I have to go all the way across the country to play like a softball game. And you think that gives me a competitive edge when there's like one of four teams over here and the other 12 are two or two time zones away.

And you're student athletes. It's not like a professional team. And it's softball. What that's isn't that that's frequently like number three, like after college football, college basketball, it's not like a professional team and yeah it's like and softball what that's isn't that that's frequently like number three like after college football college basketball it's like the yeah it's softball and gymnastics really yeah and and and if you have if no one if anyone listening to this has not watched uh college softball um they're they're insanely good they're amazing it is it's fun to watch it's like it's a great it's it's it's

pretty much the highest level of softball in the world um it's it's excellent to watch but yeah like these these athletes in the programs that don't have like you know the self-care like when i was at penn state for two years i didn't graduate there so don't worry um uh uh temple grad but um i never saw a single penn state football player outside of the stadium no i i no temple you would run to the temple uh basketball players and like the yeah all the time yeah football players yeah yeah but penn state self-contained they had their own classes that they took and stuff like that so but are they spending that much money on the on the college softball god no i mean like when it comes down to it too like in utah i've seen the same

thing too where the football players are very self-contained and very regimented when it comes to like where they go what they do what they see and that's because they're an investment more than anything else. Exactly. Exactly. Like you make sure people cut us checks. So, you know, we don't want you to screw that up. Yeah. So bottom line. Sorry to interrupt, but like, just to go back to what you're saying about the,

like the Washington softball player, I made the mistake of like, I don't know if it was her, but it was like a, it was a tweet that was very similar. And I read the comments. Oh, sorry. And yeah, of course, like first mistake, but just like the idea that people are like, who gives a shit about it? Like you're, you're not the one making the money, know your place. Like just the fuck up, which again it's just it's just you know

it's it's all the same just like bullshit reactive reactionary comments but it's just it's sickening to think that there are so many people who are just like completely for this and just like there's no there's no sense of solidarity there's no sense of collectivism it's just the better man win and then you have to deal with all the bullshit it's so it's just it's wildly short-sighted and again it's uh it's all just generated by money yeah oh yeah absolutely and once again like people always take second place to whatever like money creates and all that yeah absolutely like no matter like even when it comes to football and all that too it's always just going to be like well you know i i know you're trying to get a degree and all that but um

we need you we need you back out there basically yeah when you're injured or whatever we need you out there because oklahoma runs a 335 and-5 and you're the best running back to break through that. Right. Man, this sucks. It does. Unionize college sports. Well, hey, they tried. Yeah, Northwestern tried

and got tried with guns next time. Okay, yeah. All right. Cool. I'm very into it. Anyway, who's excited for washington versus northwestern uh god you look at some of those matchups i'm gonna watch some real bad sports this year i can yeah buddy solidarity solidarity in that there's there's gonna be a really a lot of bad saturday morning on like espn plus matchups too like who's looking forward to ucla purdue i got well i got my money on norfolk state temple that's that's what i'm waiting for

hey shout out norfolk state they upset uh number two mizzou uh same year the lehigh beat duke hey that's the one thing i know about norfolk state that's the one fucking thing i remember is that game i just know that utah basketball is going to be awful in the big 12 so that's a temple basketball it's gonna get a shit rocked although we did beat then number one houston so uh man all right um so yeah shit sucks. That's horrible. Fuck the NCAA. This is the perfect Brigham Young Money experience here where we get to just like you know, talk about something

to the point where we just make ourselves feel bad. Yeah. We were doing great for a while. We were talking about putting down Bill Walton and now all of a sudden we're just sad. That's terrible. Fun things like euthanizing an old man. Some shit about Oregon State back ribbing

like entirely makeable 18 footers. I walked through all of Zion's National Park last week and I saw what I imagined was a wizard of some kind. And he told me some exotic knowledge that I cannot share with anything like this. This goes on for two hours and 45 minutes. Anyway, UCLA's up four. You're saying I need to drop acid and watch some Pac-12 games.

Pac-12 basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. While it's still around. It does rule that Bill Walton is just basically Mike Lindell if he chose acid instead of crack. He's the neutral good version of Mike Lindell. Yeah, exactly. Or actually chaotic good, it sounds like. Yeah.

Yeah, he's chaotic good. I fell for Scott Pash on some of those simulcasts. We were just like, what is going on? We were just like, what are you fucking talking about, dude? He's just going on for 20 minutes. Audibly, what are you fucking talking about, dude? Alright.

So, we got a couple listener voicemails. I didn't label them, so we'll see. But we got voicemails from I think it's from Charlie, from Rebecca, from Bobby. So, we'll find out when got voicemails from, I think it's from Charlie, from Rebecca, and from Bobby. We'll find out when we listen to them. And if you say anything mean about Charlie, we'll both

kill you. Noted. All right. Hey, Charlie. It's Charlie from our throw. God damn it, dude. Finishing up the two-and-a-half weeks of group stage

as the Union take both games over Mexican teams. 3-1 against Tijuana on Saturday. Two players from Tijuana get sent off. The Union scored two penalties. Got it. Missed Philadelphia so much. And then Quitaro Wednesday night. Another two penalties.

A hat-track for Daniel Gostek and another two goals. They win 5-1, win the group, and advance to the round of 32. So, I'll see you guys. Okay, keep doing this. Let's enjoy it. And let's see what's in that job, okay and let's see what's in that cab, guys! Let's see what's in the silo, guys! Yeah!

Charlie is awesome. He took me to a union game. Fucking insane. That supporter section at Subaru Park is wild. Shout out Sons of Ben. I know a couple of them listen. See, you know what? I respect the

union a lot more first off unlike real salt lake doesn't have a stupid name also doesn't have their stadium named american first so that's uh oh god yeah american first stadium jesus christ real salt lake blocked me on twitter because I made a comment of that. Because when they made the announcement, I just replied with the KKK walking with a sign that said America first. Oh. Nice. I like living in Utah.

It's good. It's an experience, to say the least. First off, second off, love that there's passion about the league's cup uh i like that people are really concerned about conca calf and all that too we need to have this survive uh real salt lakes also in the quarterfinals i know the union's going up against the new york red bulls wish y'all luck on that uh and hopefully we uh cave in lafc skull so let's go yeah good luck there you go all right let's hear it for rsl see you all at america first stadium yeah bring your white hoodies oh dude hell yeah dude

wait Greg does the mascot for RSL still have dreads for some reason I don't think so wasn't that like an homage to Kyle Beckerman I think so but it was just weird a mascot in Utah with dreads

it was just like hmm alright next voicemail it's either from Rebecca or Bobby A mascot in Utah would dread. Yeah. All right. Next voicemail. It's either from Rebecca or Bobby. Let's see. Hi, my name is Rebecca. She and her are my pronouns. Calling in from Illinois.

I have not done a whole lot of sports things, but it's enjoyable to listen to your podcast. But more recently, I've gotten back into NASCAR again. Oh, yeah. You'll find this at least interesting because it's my belief that NASCAR is good again. Then again, I was not really alive when Dale Earnhardt was around, so, you know, take that as a grain of salt. But the race last week at Pocono was pretty incredible. the world's only Benny Hamlin fan after he nudged Kyle Larson into the barriers,

which, you know, was a good thing. And they got preceded to get booed by the entire crowd, which was very fascinating to watch. I'll be re-watching the Richmond race pretty soon, and I'm also planning on going to the Indianapolis Speedway road course for my first-ever NASCAR race that I'll watch live, which will be interesting. Thank you for

playing this, if you do. Bye-bye. Thanks, Rebecca. I'm not a NASCAR, but Liam fucking loves that shit, I know. Yeah, buddy. Alright. Yeah, no, Denny Hamlin's a bitch, but I kind of do

appreciate it. And NASCAR is better than it has been the last couple years, I would say. At least that's my do appreciate it. And NASCAR is better than it has been the last couple of years. I would say at least that's my opinion of it. All right. I know Greg's got bounced a couple of minutes. All right. So last voicemail is from Bobby. Hey, Tom.

Yay, Liam. It's Bobby from Western Maryland. Pronouns he, him. Quick one for you. What is the worst thing or the most disgusting thing that you would do to get Shohei Otani on your favorite baseball team? Fuck the Yankees. Fuck Penn State. Have a good one.

Oh, dude. I'd feed Joel Embiid face first into a wood chipper. I know he just got married. If it meant the Phillies would stop fucking with me uh i uh yeah i mean am i is my am i supposed to say like i would have sex with shohei otani because that's not i would also do that i mean if i had to if i had to do that if i had to do that he's not a bad guy. He's pretty handsome. You could do a lot worse.

Yeah, you could do a lot worse. As a Mets fan, I would feed Mr. Met into a wood chipper for a Shoya Otani. Not Mrs. Met, though. That's too far. But Mr. Met, yeah, definitely definitely he's getting the fargo treatment i'm going to slide in her dms after that i mean you we've all seen those pictures of her double cheeked up i listen i said i think they they've made both of them thicker they got more muscles on mr matt whoever's doing it now and this is it's your standard tri-state couple like come on

all right um let's see we got uh two oh did he just die no he didn't no nope you're good nope you're good me me yeah you're good you're good all right we thought you lost you for a second uh there was a big lightning um oh okay all right um we got two uh dms uh the first one is from a longtime correspondent metric mike says hello tommy a liam so i've gotten into battle bots recently robot combat matches have either of you watched robot combat either on tv or local regional competitions fuck osu fuck elon musk uh hell yeah i used to watch it i used to also watch uh the gathering on espn too back when they had like around tempest block amazing i was a big fan of dragons but magic the gathering yeah yeah okay but

yeah i was a big fan of uh battle bots going on too like just the fact like people were creating like just kill bots in their own garage and like not taking that to like a logical conclusion where they could just do that and just like put it like go through a mall or something that would be an interesting approach but luckily they just had them fight each other sure yeah um last last last dm i'll just give him this one uh so it's nicky from australia howdy fellas for liam's sake i told you to fucking stop doing that i want to get your thoughts on the following prompt i'm australian if in case you were the listeners weren't aware given my location interests have only gotten recently gotten interested in north american

sports like the nhL and NFL. I've known for a while that one of my ancestors was born in the United States. I thought he was born somewhere in Washington State, so I decided to support Seattle-based teams such as the Kraken, Allison James, and Nirvana. However, as it turns out, my relative wasn't born in Washington State. He was born in Boston. I pass it to be a Bruins fan because it's far funnier to collectively laugh at Boston rather than defending the presumably hungover townsfolk. The estimation of two burly dudes, am I on the right to keep supporting Seattle teams or do I have to stake my claim to good old Boston?

Cheers, cunts. That wasn't very Australian of me. T-A-S, cunts. T-A-S, cunts. Cunts. That's right. No, you can stay at Seattle. Probably closer time zone-wise.

Yeah, a little bit, yeah. And you believed clearly in good faith that they had been born in Washington State. Boston sports is going to just make you sad. Anyway, East Coast sports in general, you'll just get sad. I mean, are we talking about how good of a charm

Seattle sports are? I mean, the Mariners have done nothing for 30 years except for make the playoffs twice. The Seahawks are cursed. The Seahawks are cursed. The Sonics don't exist anymore. The Sonics are in Oklahoma City.

Yeah. Bad coffee man got in Oklahoma City. Yeah. Bad coffee man got rid of the basketball team. Howard Schultz, you fucking son of a bitch. I say keep supporting teams like Allison Chains and Nirvana. Yeah. Although Soundgarden's better.

Pearl Jam's going to be strong in the division this year. You've got to think about that a little bit. Eddie Vedder can Ball hawk with the best of them A couple of those guys moved over to Audioslave and I'm not so sure Alright

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podcast on all other fun social media greg where can they find you uh you can find me on uh blue sky and uh x videos got a lot of uh amateur content um Looking for some likes on there. Under the key slash himbo. Yeah. Yeah, just type in himbo. It's dad jam dad. That's where you can find me. That's so good. All right. Greg's got to get off, so I'm going to finish this, wrap this up. We're going to do a bonus, though, record it with Jordan in a minute.

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hear some good discourse about whether or not we should drop the bomb or not. Oh, yeah. Actually, don't. I don't care. Yeah. Completely ignore the, you know, the nuclear fallout that drifted over the towns nearby. We have that in Utah, too. Like, that's why most of St. George got irradiated. Say it.

Say it. Bye. Bye, Greg. I almost called in Georgia.