Ten Thousand Losses - Ent Draught feat. Joe Kassabian

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 . Accused of punching a police horse. CTE! CTE! CTE! Those negative fans. Make himself vomit. Go Bears! Go Bears! you gotta think the fanatic's gonna go down to her and give her a bunch of hot dogs or the snowball starting to come they'll boo us but they won't let anybody else boo us One. Hello, and welcome to somehow episode seven.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Are we really on episode seven? I believe so, unless I can't count. Fuck. 10,000 losses. The only good Philly sports podcast. There are some other ones. All of them suck. We are the only good philly sports podcast um there are some other ones uh all of them suck we are the only good ones and we will fight them on the l if they take uh issue with us i am taller than seamus clancy i will fight him and i'm shorter probably but uh yeah i think you're a little shorter than he is but yeah i mean it doesn't matter dude we'll tag team and we got joe well i was yeah yeah you molded by it i didn't see the broad street line until i was already a man
Starting point is 00:01:31 uh so yeah i guess i'm i'm tom then did you say your name liam i'm liam yeah well done liam thank you joe and and and so there's Tom and Liam, and there's a not Liam. There's a not Liam. We have a guest. Having survived my coup of him, it's Joe Kasabian from Lions Led by Donkeys. Say hi, Joe. Plug yourself. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Do whatever you want. It is I, Joe, from the other podcast that Liam is on, because recording with you two other days this week was not nearly enough and I'm recording with oh yeah that's right I gotta watch Rome you know I have nothing to do with Philly other than that's where I go to school but I figured
Starting point is 00:02:18 I am studied enough in Philly sports simply because I am also used to losing all the time fuck you man uh i'll do uh let's get through announcements uh we are at the end of by the end of this week uh gonna have a patreon up um i mean i'm just to say it. Tom, you want to just do a $1 tier? No one's going to give us more than that. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I don't give a shit. Yeah, $1 gets you bonus episodes. Our first one will include Joe and us talking about the pitiful history of the Detroit Lions, which I learned a lot about. There's people fucking screaming in my house, which I learned a lot about today. Welcome to Philadelphia. Yeah. And what else we got?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Well, we got that Patreon thing. I mean, I was hoping that the Patreon would pay off my student loans, but that's not fucking happening. Who knows? I didn't think we'd get as big as we did with, well, there's your problem. I'm here to tell you, as someone who lives off of a Patreon, it's paying for my grad school,
Starting point is 00:03:29 and if you would have told me that three years ago, I would have told you to fuck off. Yes. So, speaking of assorted things like that, that was a shitty segue. That was awful. Yeah. We have a voicemail now,
Starting point is 00:03:48 which is 267-371-7218. So leave us your best Philly sports takes on there or message us on Twitter at 10KLossesPod. And I actually do have some mailbag stuff, but no one has been brave enough. Everyone who's listening to this, if you have not called in. You're a chicken shit. You're a cower.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You're pathetic. I'm calling you a cower right now. You're pathetic. You're basically – yeah. You're actually starting – you're the new head coach of the Flyers because you're such a fucking bitch. Sorry. I'll edit that out. You could be the head coach of the Blackhawks.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I hate the Hawks, man. What if Penn State was on the Great Lakes? Oh, that hurt me in my soul, Joe. Yeah. What if Penn State was on the Great Lakes and had a red face mascot? Yeah, it's true. They doubled down. Yeah, they really did, man.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Let's, yeah, fuck. Let's get into the mailbag you want to lead this one it's all you bud uh well i can ask the first one uh okay yeah and i'll ask the second one uh oof all right patrick asks why do the flyers suck so bad question mark fuck i well there's no defense uh carter i i'm not gonna i've i've sort of become a carter heart like apologist in the last couple weeks like and i know i shouldn't be but carter heart like we'll play these games where he basically stands on his head and they're just like what i'm like where are we winning and i'm just there's no one in front of him there's no defense and like carter heart's being asked to basically play an 82 game schedule. Like I'd be tired too.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. I would agree with that. And I would say that like Hart's a solid goalie. I mean, he's not stupendous, but like, you know, for the recent memory of the Flyers, they've just had like a carousel of goalies yeah and that's of course part of the problem and it's it's a team of that guys still featuring claude geroux somehow like it's not exactly a team built for a postseason run no uh my honest answer is that they probably need to tear this bitch down to the studs. Yeah. Like, and it sucks to watch, but, like, they're not making the playoffs consistently.
Starting point is 00:06:08 They're certainly not making deep playoff runs. Like, but I'm not super familiar with the farm team. What is it, the Phantoms? The Lehigh Valley Phantoms. They're not great either, right? Not that I'm aware of. of well that many things up in allentown are great that's true this really seems like a roster made up if someone attempted to play like an nhl like 2012 13 maybe and like no these guys are good like oscar lindblom is here
Starting point is 00:06:40 fucking james van reams night still hanging around baby like martin jones for some reason yeah like i i got back into the flyers because of this podcast i i was when i was a kid and i was you know as i was fading off my hockey you know following i was like oh shit claude jeru and they're still like he's still on the fucking team van reams like i remember that shit from a while ago like what the fuckeren't they around when they accidentally made a Stanley Cup run? Yeah. That was 2010, and they lost to the Blackhawks
Starting point is 00:07:12 in six. I gotta say, I have no... I hate the Blackhawks as a Red Wings fan, so I have nothing against the Flyers, but... I will tell you... That was the worst series-winning goal I've ever seen. Yeah, that was... My girlfriend was actually at that that game and nobody realized it had gone in and then the game was over the fucking blackhawks didn't even know it went in yeah uh i will say uh
Starting point is 00:07:35 the coaching is has been a fucking nightmare show uh get uh what, who's the very angry coach whose name I'm forgetting? That's even more specific. John Tortorelli. Oh, Tortorella fucking sucks. Get him in there. Get him in there. Why would you wish that upon these people? Because this is the Flyers and they deserve it.
Starting point is 00:08:02 You want Hart to completely crater, make Tortorella screaming at him. He would crater. My poor sweet boy. Look what Tortorella did to fucking King Hendrik that's true he killed him um vin which i assume is the pseudonym asks if you were another team who would you trade for ben simmons i i wouldn't trade for ben simmons yeah i mean i mean i would trade for him i would trade maybe a non-lottery first rounder in like four years uh or three years well i read something that the pacers are ready to trade caris lavert some bonus and someone else for ben simmons which like i
Starting point is 00:08:38 fuck it of all the fates i wish upon ben simmons moving to indianapolis is honestly like, like that, that kind of gets me hard. Like I'm, I'm real with you like that. I just, to just be on like the cusp of the playoffs every year and nobody remember who you are is like the funniest fucking thing. Him and him and fucking Wentz can hang out too.
Starting point is 00:09:01 They could start a Christian food truck cart. Oh God. My, my favorite thing about this i don't like i i'm not a huge basketball fan but like i follow all sports i i don't know why but my favorite thing is like apparently there was a rumor that damian lillard was trying to get ben simmons sent to the trailblazers yeah for cj mccullum oh completely untrue which which which apparently there was like a straight up like like and it's saying there's no interest from the 76ers for cj mccollum so well he has a collapsed right lung oh that's a problem yeah holy shit he was out with like a contusion and then they did an x-ray and they're like oh yeah you don't have a right lung anymore that's surprisingly weirdly common for like
Starting point is 00:09:45 tall lanky guys. Like it's weird. Like pneumothoraxes are, spontaneous pneumothoraxes are a surprisingly more often occurrence than you'd imagine in tall dudes. I thank God every day I'm 6'2". I am 6'4".
Starting point is 00:10:01 Tom is actually 7'1". Holy shit. I don't want to tell you how tall I am 6'4". Tom is actually 7'1". Yeah. Holy shit. I don't want to tell you how tall I am. Oh, the best Philly sports podcast. Just gripping a tree branch, baby. I got tree beard.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So to speak. Yeah. I got tree beard. So to speak. I don't know. Does that make tree beard a dilf? I'm going to vomit. I'm going to actually vomit. Oh, are we getting into Tolkien shit? Because that's my fucking jam. Me too. We got dick jokes. We got fucking Tolkien.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Ben Simmons is involved. I mean, fucking Treebird hasn't had it for, I mean, he's still looking for his wives. But, you know, we got to think what that Ent drought is really made out of. You got to throw that Ent dick around.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Well, the stuff that Mary and Pippin drink, it makes them like two feet tall or whatever. It's just called Ent drought. Oh, no. what is it? Is it Entrout? Yeah. Is it Entrout? God damn it, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Can we get through one podcast without talking about Treebeard Cum? Just how is that a sentence I have to say? That's right, baby. You invited me on. Is this because of the Blumpkin joke? Yes. One day, one day we'll get through it without Treebeard come. Not while I'm alive.
Starting point is 00:11:35 A real sentence I have to say. I thought I had heard the other day in school a sentence I had never heard before, which was Diego from from door the explorer was a was an og uh this that pales in comparison uh shit where are we at we're on the the trade for ben simmons uh fuck i would love to see i would love to see dame dame on the sixers i guess because i've said this on this podcast uh damian lillard, besides Kemba, who just fell off this year, Damian Lillard is my favorite NBA player. He creates magic out of nothing. And watching him melt Paul George from 40 was one of the great joys of my life. And I don't give a shit about Portland, but I really like small market teams, just sort
Starting point is 00:12:22 of as a as a rule and i love watching like yosef nurkic just like play bully ball and then like cj mccullum do some insane shit the blazers are always at least kind of a hoot to watch but uh yeah give me dame and you can have tobias harris and ben simmons oh that's some incentive but uh i think i I think earlier in the season they were talking about trading for a game. And he said, I got 10 toes at Rip City. Which I respect, man. I do. He wants to win a championship with that franchise.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And, you know, obviously players should go where they're most – Good luck, dude. Yeah, oh, for sure. Players should go, you know, sort of where the money takes them or whatever's in there whatever they want to fulfill their interests but like i think it's admirable for dane to say nah fuck it like either i'm winning in portland or i'm not winning like that's that's that's admirable uh should we talk about the the union this is all you baby i do not give
Starting point is 00:13:20 a fuck about american soccer all right i barely give a fuck about english soccer. I really give a fuck about English soccer. So I have my father-in-law in the house, and he's a huge football guy. And so after the Eagles won, I put the union on, and we sat and talked, and he explained the sport to me because I was very confused about what is a penalty and what's not a penalty and all that shit. Sure. But I actually thought it was kind of fun. So I got to watch 49 minutes of soccer where Philadelphia – in Philadelphia fashion, it was a tied game when they started.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Then Philadelphia scored. Then a minute later, New York scored. And then they scored again like five minutes before the end of the game. So – I will say I have a quick thing related to that about the flyers flyers were up one nothing on the colorado avalanche i went to get food i did not sit down for dinner i went to get food a few blocks away when i came back it was four one colorado yeah it had. Yeah. It sounds about right for Philadelphia. Yeah. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:14:29 We're going to be a soccer podcast now. Oh no. All sports, Joe. You're going to start an Antifa Ultra group for the Philadelphia Union and see how that goes. There actually was. I wouldn't call it an Antifa
Starting point is 00:14:45 altar group, but when I was living in the Pacific Northwest, there was a pretty prevalent presence at Sounders games. Oh, yeah. They got in trouble for having the... What's it called? The Iron Front logo. Yeah, and they just kept showing it. They tried to ban it, and it just kept showing back up.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It turns out... And I found out the league was only upset because they're just, because they're Marxist-Leninist and they didn't appreciate that. Yeah, I can't say a lot of nice things about, I can't say a lot of nice things about Seattle or even the Pacific Northwest,
Starting point is 00:15:15 but I will say going to Sounders games was pretty cool because it's legitimately the only time you could go into Century League Field and not spend $500. So that was cool. Yeah, and the one thing I do like about it was there was no commercials.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And that's fucking insane, but the sport is structured because you can't have any fucking commercials. That's a good point. Yeah, for now. America will invent a second halftime which will be like just a 60 minute long.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Advertising Madness Minute! Advertising Madness Minute! So it's like watching a fucking hockey game with an 18 minute break every 20 minutes. Yeah, or a football game. Literally every single American football game with five minutes of total movement. I always wondered if the NFL would ever start its own like like own i would say premium streaming service right where it's oh like and they wouldn't do it because like the ad money from or the revenue from the big the networks is so massive i mean that's the most of their income but i always wondered if they would start their own like premium subscription service where they would yank out TV ads, like TV timeouts.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Say it called pure football or something, but I don't want to give Goodell any ideas. Yeah. I don't think it would be profitable unless they made every game a $100 entry fee just to watch it. Right. It's going to be the same amount of time.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I mean, it's not like, what do they do during the breaks like just cut it to players like having conversations just scratching their nuts on the sideline i'm a huge professional wrestling fan because i'm a massive nerd and like they have commercial breaks right um from the live feed and if you go to a live show you'll see people obviously grind down to like just boring holds while they know they're on a commercial break but during the pandemic when there was no live audiences the wrestlers really did just kind of sit down and wait um and then that accidentally got out uh and uh people noticed so there's like wrestlers just like chilling like talking to one another at a commercial break so they had to stop doing it but like that's fucking funny it's pretty great yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:17:25 this is specifically the wwe but like yeah it's it was you can watch it on youtube they're all like throwing each other around them like the lights dip and they all just kind of like lean back and get water be like yeah i'll be with you in a minute don't worry about that yeah you're in like a half nelson it's like all right hold on time out time out yeah all right good game good game go to a live show, you'll notice like, and I like specifically WWE or AEW live show, like, oh, they're on a commercial break and they'll just stop doing anything
Starting point is 00:17:52 that requires them to exert themselves. Good for them, man. Yeah, absolutely. Union break. I wish they were unionized. Technically, they are independent contractors somehow. That's fucked up, dude dude Independent contractors are not real Now I could like
Starting point is 00:18:08 That's a completely different topic for maybe a different episode But like the WWE is Pretty Byzantine About their independent contractor rules Like you can't work for anybody else Yeah that sounds like you're an employee And you don't get healthcare While the
Starting point is 00:18:24 All Elite Wrestling, which is newer than AEW, you can work for whoever the fuck you want while also working for them. All right. For real? Yeah. You have people traveling back and forth to Japan. Even though they're on cable
Starting point is 00:18:39 and pay-per-views, they'll do random local regional shows too, just because they want to. It's not a money thing. AEW pays very well. But people who just want to will go. Yeah. I suppose it is an art in some sense.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We'll have you back and we'll have the pro wrestling episode. Oh, sports. You want to talk about the goddamn Gardner Minshew? I can't believe he's back. so your sports you want to talk about the the god damn garderman show i can't believe he's back dude all right welcome to philadelphia where we invented a quarterback controversy for no reason and white people white people in the suburbs get really excited when a white quarterback does well and they're in the back of a black one. Oh, shit. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Going to the link on Sundays is basically just a preview of the race war. Well, what was it? Who got in a fight? It was a Sixers player. Yeah. The guy who went to Virginia and he's
Starting point is 00:19:41 not very good. Oh, God. Mike Scott. Mike Scott. Mike Scott got in a fight with Eagles fans because he was to Virginia and he's not very good. Um, Oh God, Mike Scott, Mike Scott, Mike Scott got in a fight with Eagles fans. Cause he was wearing a Sean Taylor Jersey when they were playing that. He is from Virginia. He has every right to do so.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And they, there was like a court. There was like a, not corpse, Jesus Christ. We haven't gotten there yet. Uh, there was a coffin with a Taylor Jersey and he went over and started talking
Starting point is 00:20:03 to these guys and all these these fucking Delco suburbs. Delco is trash. You heard it here first. These suburbanites, guys who still wear fucking clips on their belts for their cell phone. They started calling phone. They started calling him... They called him the N-word. They used the N-word. Yeah, with the hard R. So he got
Starting point is 00:20:34 in a fight with them. And his boys were like... If he had gotten into a fight, Mike Scott would have laid each and every one of them out because he's an athlete at the prime of his life. These guys were all fat from grandma's sauce on Sunday. Gravy. You call it gravy for reasons I don't fucking understand.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You guys call it sauce? What do you call it? Fucking gravy. What? You're not even Italian. Shut up. I'm barely American, but we still call it gravy. Il mio italiano è della...
Starting point is 00:21:04 He's more Italian than us, I think. I have Northern Italian, and they all call it gravy. Il mio italiano è della... He's more Italian than us, I think. I have Northern Italian, and they all call it sauce. You're talking about, like, not marinara sauce. You're talking, like, gravy. My Italian... The Italian side of my family calls it sauce, because that's the word in Italian. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, it's not... Gravy is not a word in Italian. It is now, baby. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We do gravy-based imperialism of the Italian language. Yeah, it's not... Gravy is not a word in Italian. It is now, baby. We're doing gravy-based imperialism of the Italian language. Yeah. Joe, I love you, but I'm going to piss in your mouth. I mean, that's normally how
Starting point is 00:21:35 I show my love. De la gravy. Fuck. Jesus. I can't conjugate Italian on the fly. Sorry. It's fine. That's fine. I wouldn't worry too much about it So anyway Minshew Mania
Starting point is 00:21:49 So 33-18 Defeated the Jets Apparently the Eagles have never lost against the Jets Hooray Good for the Eagles I'm not going to take away a win Because they have several more than the Lions Several more than the Lions, right? But like...
Starting point is 00:22:05 Several more than the Lions is so disappointing. I mean... I mean, they have plural wins. Yeah. Is there really an anything mania when you destroy the fucking Jets? I mean, it is in Philadelphia
Starting point is 00:22:20 because the backup quarterback who has a reasonably accurate arm which, not R quarterback who has a read reasonably accurate arm, which Ray, not Rager hurts, has a slightly inaccurate arm in certain circumstances. Managed to torch, torch the shitty jets defense. And now, and now in Philly, you're like, I don't know. Cool. As I'll know, you know, about this jail hurts guy. I'll know. I'll know. We might need to trade Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:22:46 Dude it sucks Yeah Did they start talking About intangibles yet That's always a good sign Listen Listen Joe You're not from Philly
Starting point is 00:22:54 So I don't think you know That we don't know How to say intangible They all teach us You get mad at school When you teach words That are bigger than six letters I mean Gardner Minshew Couldn't hold a fucking Starting job for the Jaguars school when you teach words that are bigger than six letters?
Starting point is 00:23:05 I mean, Gardner Minshew couldn't hold a fucking starting job for the Jaguars. People are aware of this, right? Did they already forget? They already forgot, Joe. Oh yeah, they forgot because they see Minshew and all his weirdness with his
Starting point is 00:23:21 I don't know what the fuck that jacket was. Yeah, the weird flight jacket thing. Was it units based in Philly? I have no idea. Of course. Dude, it was just like the fucking shit coming out. Like, they called him Top Gun because he was ready to fly. It's like, man, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I got First City Troop Light Cavalry shit or whatever the fuck that is. His full name is Gardner flint minchu the second yeah i don't i don't even know what that what minchu is like i don't what the language that's from whatever i couldn't tell you yeah no it sucks dude it sucks, dude. It's like, yeah, okay. But like Hurts is still like, he's not, he, we would have won the game a couple of weeks ago if it wasn't for Jalen fucking Rieger dropping it twice. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, Hurts is not the problem.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's the same Eagles problem as always. It's just like throw a quarterback out there, give him no receivers. Then be like, why isn't the quarterback doing well? Yeah. Right. give him no receivers and be like why isn't the quarterback doing well yeah right i'm like the the plan from sirianni should be target quez watkins and davante smith first and then if you don't get those guys uh i don't know just run it baby like that's that's gonna have an equal success rate that's gonna have it i'm not like that well completely seriously i mean i mean sirianni's plan but you know that should be the plan, Sirianni's plan, but, you know, that should be the plan,
Starting point is 00:24:45 but Sirianni's plan is to use fertilizing his tree. I forgot he was fertilizing his tree. Yeah. Joe, I don't know if you heard that metaphor that Sirianni gave at a press conference about growing a tree. I did not, no. Yeah, football teams like growing a tree, and you've got to fertilize and water it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And that's what we're doing right now. Yeah, we're doing this right now. We're growing roots. Before we could grow strong and tall, we got to grow roots. Yep. Yeah. Yep. We sure did, baby.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Okay. Yeah, that's what we said. That's what we said. He seems to guide a guy who Coach told him that once, and he thought that was wisdom. He wrote that down, and he was just waiting for the moment to break that out. I mean, that's definitely like Coach speak, right? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:36 That's not something real people say. That's just something that's a soundbite. It sounds very stupid. Yeah, Sirianni is, as Tom said, he's a sound bite it sounds very stupid yeah sirianni is as uh tom said he's a golden retriever yeah he's a human gold retriever apparently nice nicest dude like you ever meet but i i believe that he's the nicest dude i'd ever meet i just like want to win games and the game plan which is just like shit in your own mouth on third down, isn't fucking working.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And here's where the quarterback controversy, the discourse, comes in is that Minshew, has he played the Jets? I'm going to be devil's advocate here. Minshew, as he played versus the Jets, fits what Sirianni wants to do more than hurts does uh yeah i'll buy that yeah but i think hurts is the better and more sustainable player yeah uh also agree on that so what the fuck i mean i yeah also one game is, sorry, not enough, especially against the fucking Jets. Yeah. And we have the unfortunate situation where there's a bye next week,
Starting point is 00:26:54 so we're going to be hearing this dumb shit on the radio for a long time. Yeah. I don't know, Joe, if you know that Philadelphia actually has two sports radio channels. And I assume that they are having very normal takes on this. Oh, yeah, buddy. Absolutely. Famously normal. It is like soap operas
Starting point is 00:27:18 for Delaware Valley dudes. I mean, they live for this shit. It sucks, dude. it's so fucking bad and how long is hurts out for i think i'll be back next game i think yeah as far as i know yeah although who knows i guess all right uh shit where's the tab uh oh yeah we should talk about benching jalen rieger bench him oh yeah at this point oh yeah definitely he he look we are we are pro labor pro player on this podcast he sucks dude i'm sorry like he's and he's had we've had adequate time this is not like a
Starting point is 00:28:02 rookie who maybe got off to a bad start like this is not a guy who as far as we know is having any off the field issues there's just a guy who sucks ass at playing professional football sorry dude you get benched i mean see what he's worth yeah 100 like that's not being unfair yeah you're a receiver. Your job is to catch footballs. If you can't do that, you probably shouldn't have that job. If you could catch footballs that I could catch, like – and I like I say that, but it's like genuinely it's like, okay. I'm pretty sure I could have caught that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Like, fuck. I mean, I would have been open to begin with because I'm not an athlete. I do like the idea of you you going in as wide receiver three. Oh, yeah. Throw me on a slant. And there's Tom Payne streaking down the... Oh, he's been killed! I'm getting torn in half like in another
Starting point is 00:28:57 teen movie. I have, though, I fucking like... The part of my contract is that you have to bury me with the football so I can go to Valhalla. You have to say nice things to me in the post-game conference. Yeah. Yeah, you have to do the Spock funeral around the con. Shit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 No. Fuck. And the one thing that I think is an important indicator is that when he's doing the returns, now you see other teams are kicking short or punting short to... To draw him out on purpose. Yeah. To get him to fuck up. If that's the strategy, that answers your question. I mean, that answers your question.
Starting point is 00:29:40 He doesn't have the hands. I mean, he's dropping the punts and stuff. No, he doesn't. He clearly doesn't. And that's tough. Last year, he was fumbling like crazy too and i mean then you give him like a pass because he's a rookie or whatever but right you know but it's like uh i mean uh remember when the when the fucking uh bush bush left and obama was president and they had like the miss me yet like with george bush yeah i wonder if we have that with nelson agalor Bush left and Obama was president and they had the Miss Me Yet with George Bush.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah. I wonder if we have that with Nelson Aguilar. Yes, you do. I think the only way to find out is put both of those former presidents out on a football field and let them get tackled at full speed. Yes. There we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:21 We are bipartisan discourse. I agree with both of them. Any other Eagle's thoughts? Uh, I, I, we are bipartisan discourse. I agree with both of the, uh, any, any other, uh, Eagle slots? Yeah, man. I mean, I, this team dumbly enough can make a playoff run, but, uh, I think it's the NFC is trash. Um, I don't know, man. I, like, I think the problem is much more of receiving and blocking issue than a jalen hurts issue and i think jalen hurts maybe is an issue but like i've said on the podcast like
Starting point is 00:30:50 he's so far down my list of issues that he's not that it's not worth addressing his problems like if this were a team where jalen hurts were throwing like three or four interceptions a game every game and you know the eagles would have won if not for those interceptions, which is arguable from the game a couple weeks ago. You know, it's one thing. The Giants game. Yeah, you have a point. But, like, Gardner Minshew, as Joe said, got benched in fucking Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:31:20 after they went 1-15. Like, he's not it. No, he'll never be it. It's the same thing as fucking Fitzmagic dude like yeah he plays out of his mind for four games then he regresses to the mean like he's a known quantity or known quality I'm not saying that like the Eagles shouldn't have Minshew on the roster because if it's sort of like you know the best case scenario for a backup is that he basically gets hot and then he wins you a fucking Super Bowl um which Philly has seen like that's totally within the realm of possibility anything can happen the NFL's super fucking weird but like as a starter no well that that you just reminded me that this is this is
Starting point is 00:32:00 Philly syndrome here where you have an unrealistic expectation based on past success because success is so rare. So you have a backup quarterback who takes you to the Super Bowl, right, in Nick Foles. It's the same as the Phillies fans with the closer. You've got to get another Brad Lidge. Like expecting Brad Lidge perfect save season to be the norm. Or a Nick Foles type backup quarterback to be the norm. or a nick foals type court uh backup quarterback to be the norm and it's not
Starting point is 00:32:26 like that's not what most most teams don't have the the quarterback who's going to take you to the super bowl as their backup i saw some shit uh because as we know i am unfortunately new england patriots fan thank you uh how could you uh My dad is from Boston, Joe. That's not an excuse. You're from Detroit, Joe. Yeah, but my dad isn't from Detroit. I don't know. Anyway, I grew up watching the Patriots, man.
Starting point is 00:32:55 When I was a little kid, we'd go to M&T and watch, uh, do some crimes and beat the Patriots. Uh, this is also why I'm a closet wizards fan, but none of that, uh, the, the Patriots, I saw some takes,
Starting point is 00:33:14 uh, like scolding hot takes that were like, uh, or scouting hot. They were like, when the Patriots went, whatever, seven or nine last year,
Starting point is 00:33:20 fire Belichick. And just like, what, what? Like the man has eight super bowls what are you talking about and they were like no no clearly it was all brady and now of course the patriots uh war machine is fully operational uh and uh fuck sean mcderm, because he's a racist. You want to get... Oh, before we talk about the Sixers, Temple Basketball, baby!
Starting point is 00:33:49 Six and three! Beat Vanderbilt! Fight, fight, fight for the cherry and white. I remembered it! I remembered it! Fight, fight, fight for the cherry... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 As two people who went to Temple. Yes. The only good Philadelphia school. That's right. You can also have LaSalle. Maybe not for you, but Corinne's dad went to LaSalle, so I kind of have to like him.
Starting point is 00:34:14 LaSalle's alright. St. Joe's can burn in hell. Yeah, fuck St. Joe's. Yeah, and fuck the people who went there. Especially if you're dating me. Catholic prep school. Tom, didn't you go to catholic prep school oh it wasn't prep school it was working class proletariat school i had to volunteer at a soup kitchen for 40 hours to graduate oh no you poor sweet baby
Starting point is 00:34:43 how did you survive? So obviously Temple basketball is going to get hot and we will win the NCAA tournament. Joe! North Catholic Slater, we're not going to venture this podcast. Northeast Catholic High School for Boys was founded by the Salesian Brothers in order to provide education for working class
Starting point is 00:35:01 Philadelphians and it was closed by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia. Wow, that Philly diphthong came out there. Because of fucking fuckface. What's his name? Archbishop Fuck You. That's who it was. God damn it, so I'll tip my tip. Not Perez, the other one, yeah. No, no,
Starting point is 00:35:17 Perez, fuck him too. Well, he's the reason that Archbishop Philadelphia's not a cardinal anymore. Yep. The homophobic one yeah yeah yeah yeah and he closed all the philadelphia city like like as many as he could philadelphia city schools yeah uh they they kept judge open because uh and they kept fucking judge which is a good die young ambassadors live forever father judges the cop school joe just so you know that if you ever meet a father judge graduate from the face punch him in the face. Oh, Shapiro. Shapiro.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Who was before him? Uh, it was before Shapiro. Rigali. Fuck you, Rigali. Justin Francis Rigali. Oh, he's still alive, apparently. Yeah, Rigali El Cazo Grande. He was born in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, like, no one good ever was born in Los Angeles. Yeah, like, no woman good ever was born in Los Angeles. Sorry to my wife. She doesn't listen to this podcast. That's good. Because she would have to hear about Treebeard, come. Sounds like she needs to listen to this podcast. You don't know what goes on.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Swiftly moving on to the Philadelphia 76ers. I mean, she might have. You don't know what goes on. Swiftly moving on to the Philadelphia 76ers. Joel, crown his ass right now. Joel Embiid is MVP. Stop the season. Give it to Embiid. Give it to Embiid. Empyveed.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Empyveed. Four game win streak, baby. And I say this as someone who is sort of on the record as doubting m beads uh ability for long-term success uh get crown his ass right now he he won that game against the hornets by himself uh and i think you know that that sort of like can change the course of a game superstar shit and bead can do that when he basically, when he feels like it, he would had 42, 14 rebounds.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like he just fucking went supernova. Absolute fucking miracle game. I feel bad. Cause if this dude was on another team, he he'd have a ring. Yeah. The dude is, is a,
Starting point is 00:37:22 I mean, he didn't pick up a basketball too. It was what? 14. Yeah. Cause he wanted to play volleyball. Yeah. The dude is I mean, he didn't pick up a basketball too He was what, 14? Yeah, because he wanted to play volleyball Yeah He's absolutely fucking unbelievable Yeah, the Sixers don't look half bad
Starting point is 00:37:36 I mean, we saw them get sort of beaten into submission When they were putting If you're starting Furkan Korkmaz Things are not going well for you oh uh yeah for con cork mods uh there's no issues there uh yes with him or his ancestry or anything yeah joe for con cork mods is turkish oh good for him oh yeah uh but yeah um i i Yeah. But yeah, I his my request to talk to him about the Kurds has not been. It's not been answered, so I guess we're good for now. Yeah, let's not hear what he has to say about that.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Nothing good. Not if he wants to go home. Well, we talked about this the last time, but and his can't their freedom, whatever the fuck. Oh, Jesus. That guy's the the cia no he's just okay all right now hold on a second when when my my anarchist friend is calling it the cia he's a fucking cia all right confirmed because i heard that first from a different side of the of the aisle uh i just spat out my drink all over myself I think like everybody likes to think that the CIA is like this boogeyman that can make the most evil things possible while simultaneously employing
Starting point is 00:38:51 this fucking moron I don't think he's actually the CIA I subscribe to the CIA is incredibly powerful also incredibly stupid at the same time that's my theory but whatever the fuck he is uh he he called out uh fort guy and cork mobs for not commenting on uh fucking what's his name erdogan and it's
Starting point is 00:39:15 like the dude wants to go home and see his family man of course he's not gonna fucking talk about it right like now now canter is canter even still in the NBA? Yeah, he plays for the Boston Celtics. So he collects three minutes per game now or whatever and goes on Fox News and never gets to go see his family. He plays more than three minutes per game to the part of our lineup because we can't find a good center because our starting center is six foot eight.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Small ball, baby! Yeah, let's... Are we trading Shake Milton? What? That was a rumor I saw, which was Milton to the Pelicans for Brandon Ingram and Sadoransky. I saw that. What? I saw that on one of my feeds, and that is just a proposal.
Starting point is 00:40:07 There wasn't like a – Give me Zion. I want us to play Chunky Marinera. We have the Chunky boys in Zion and Bede. You would watch that. You would absolutely watch that. Due to BDS, I can't watch anyone named Zion. I'd have to omit my watch for the games.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I also can't watch the Utah Jazz. It's my penance for eating Sauber last week. Oh, you will be killed. But yeah, no. I don't know what the fuck's going to happen with Simmons. I mean, we talked a little bit about it. I think Maury is completely content to just wait it out, dude. I mean, the guy is obviously whatever waterlogged enough to like truly believe he can just wait it out.
Starting point is 00:41:02 That's what he's going to do. I don't know what that looks i mean if the if the idea is basically just to fine him until he relents like i think that'll probably work at some point but like what's the point of that dude just the sixers are also kind of delusional because like yeah we want four first rounders and i'm like yeah the dude you're not gonna get that like two first rounders maybe like obviously ben simmons is a very talented player and like he should play where he wants to play like i don't i'm not mad at him you know i'm i'm a little mad that like he he is so bad at absorbing criticism he'd rather just not show his face and i get that philly's a hard place to play but like everywhere's a hard place to play yeah like the demands of you know the the
Starting point is 00:41:55 mental demands of basically putting a team on your back because that's going to be the expectation anywhere like you're a superstar you're all defense superstar like you're not ever going to be like a role player riding the bench and maybe coming in for like 10 minutes a game like you're a superstar, you're all defense superstar. Like you're not ever going to be like a role player riding the bench and maybe coming in for like 10 minutes a game. Like you're always going to be the guy because that's what your entire life has led to. You're always going to be the guy who's positioned to be franchise altering. Like you're always going to be positioned that way.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And like, that's a blessing and a curse. Like I don't, I don't really like the narratives that are like, Oh, he's just like a, like a, you know, show boy. Like he just wants the attention. Like, I don't I don't really like the narratives that are like, oh, he's just like a like a, you know, showboy. Like, he just wants the attention. Like, I think that that's that certainly, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Has racist undertones to me, like, yeah, Philly. Hello. But, dude, you're going to be the man anywhere you go, just by nature of like your role and you were number one overall pick and you've been all defense like that's always gonna follow you and like i don't know what if he thinks he can basically be like a kawaii and like engineer a trade you know and then be a superstar on another team. But Kawhi at least... Kawhi showed up, I guess, until he didn't. And I guess that's sort of the template he's following.
Starting point is 00:43:18 But I don't know. What's that? He's not Kawhi. He's not Kawhi, yeah. That's sort of what I meant to say. He's not Kawhi. Kawhi Leonard is, on any given day, top five basketball players on earth, and Ben Simmons isn't. Yeah, and I'm thinking, too, from sort of our labor-oriented perspective,
Starting point is 00:43:43 is Ben Young coming into the league you know kind of shows how because people make fun of like oh he's got like mental health whatever and like people like it's fake or whatever which uh we do not support that shit on this podcast no i'm like no one knows like if if i showed up to work and I basically got sort of the yips and then an entire city mobilized against me, I'd have some mental problems still. Yeah. Also, it comes with the expectations of being a young guy into the NBA. You're kind of a commodity. And how do you deal with all this money and attention? And it sounds,
Starting point is 00:44:26 it sounds horrible, but like just the way this sports work with, with players and you know, he's, he never really had a chance to have like, you know, kind of like a, like, like, like a, how do I put it? Like, you know, he was like 18 and he, and he goes and starts playing for LSU or whatever. Like, like he had gone to Mont put it like you know he was like 18 and he and he goes and starts playing for lsu or whatever like like he had gone to montverde like yeah he didn't have a chance to like mature or anything no it's you know i it's a weird comparison but i've always sort of felt this way about like justin bieber where if you handed me 200 million dollars at 18 like and i had an
Starting point is 00:45:03 army of people saying yes mr bieber of course mr bieber i'd be an asshole too and i'm not saying that like like of course you're a shithead like yeah and like whether or not ben simmons is a shithead isn't is an issue for the sixers doctors to figure out but like you know i i feel for the guy at the same time i just want this to be over like i want i want them to recoup some assets like i want him to go where he wants to play like if he wants to go to la that fucking bad let him go yeah um it's just so frustrating to watch this play out and like watch people who are normally level-headed have just these insane and like vile and hateful takes on it yeah it's just like kids what 23 like you know how fucking dumb i was at 23 like real fucking
Starting point is 00:45:52 stupid i played a game where you lit a tennis ball on fire and then threw it at each other i also played that game yeah fireball it's a great game we we used to we used to hit each other with sticks reenacting uh fucking the darth maul duel and fucking penny pack park and shit like that so it's like yeah you just do dumb shits also we're drunk um you know like like yeah you do you your frontal lobe isn't developed yet right you're at his age it just it sucks to watch more than anything. This isn't fun. It's not captivating. It just sucks ass to watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Honestly, send him to LA, whichever team you pick. Give us Anthony Davis. And give us Russ. Fuck it. We're going to run it back like it's 2012, baby. I was going to say two two-round second round draft picks. But just let him make his own bad choices out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's what happens. Because I think every team has kind of got that on their mind. It's like, well, is it he's done with Philly, or is it this is going to continue on our team if he doesn't get what he wants? Right. And it sucks thinking of it that way because fuck the owners. But you get it. Like, you do get it. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:16 He should have joined the Army or something. Straighten them out. No, join the Navy. That works for everybody. I'd recommend none of them, personally. Oh, what do you know? You're not a veteran. Well, if you join the Marines, you do get the ability to digest crayons.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Yeah, they put that second stomach in you like a fucking space Marine. You know what Marine stands for, right? I know what Army stands for, but I'm not saying on this podcast. My ass rides in Navy equipment. Oh, yes. Yeah. Thank you, Joe. The Flyers. The Flyers.
Starting point is 00:47:48 The Flyers. We talked a little bit about them, but... Alan Vigneault has been fired. Into the sun, actually. Yeah. Good fucking riddance. Good fucking riddance. I thought he was a trash coach.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I thought he was a terrible hire. I am not unhappy to see him go uh guy's an asshole uh i like like i said earlier i think my opinion is the flyers need to tear this bitch down to the studs uh whether or not they're willing to do that is another guess entirely they're not competitive at least on a serious level um jeru is 455 years old yeah and i mean i'm not i i don't even think keeping him around is a bad idea because i think like he's probably a good locker room guy like guys like playing with him well i mean he helped repel benedict garland at the battle of the he did he did there's there's actually a painting in the philly art museum of claude drew holding off an entire red
Starting point is 00:48:49 coat battalion by himself yeah he actually came up with jean-maire silvio so he did he did he's a reason why the quebecois come to the jersey shore for some fucking reason i do not understand that and i never will yeah how weird it is to hear a Quebecer accent like down in South Jersey I don't know if Joe knows about this This is a very Philly thing, so the Jersey Shore Especially South Jersey The Quebecois, they come down here And they just stay in hotel rooms
Starting point is 00:49:16 And they set off smoke detectors Because they won't stop smoking cigarettes inside And it's like Every other license plate is you know yeah i don't understand why because there's so many places that are closer to the jersey shore than fucking south or closer to quebec than the fucking jersey shore um but yeah so because they're from quebec their their entire goal is to make you upset ah there we go i i will say uh i was at a unnamed bar at the jersey shore uh and yeah you know and there i was
Starting point is 00:49:59 having a grand old time and this probably mid-50s keviqua couple is is drink and they are hosing them they are fucking putting them away we get to talking and i'm just like oh yes i love your stupid province and your stupid accents which i do i i as i've said uh possibly not as fast as i've said to both of you uh my one flaw as a human being is that i'm a francophile uh and they were just like yeah i know uh this country wouldn't exist if not for the french so can't well which i guess would be a good thing but don't worry about that uh so they are like and not in a in a gross swinger way but they're just like oh you love our stupid province uh here are free drinks and i walked back to my girlfriend's beach house like not basically on the border of unconsciousness it
Starting point is 00:50:52 was terrific and i looked at my receipt the next i looked you know my credit card statement the next morning i was like what's the damage what's the damage which is like you know jersey shore price i'm expecting like a lot of money and it was like 1850 and i was just like all right great i i am going to join the legion right fucking now oh i uh i was always my backup plan i was always my backup plan and when i was a i was because i was an asshole as a kid uh was to just like hey if it doesn't work out i'll just join the french for legion yeah france parla sang versailles let's do this i will commit heinous war crimes was to just like, if it doesn't work out, I'll just join the French Foreign Legion. Francais, parles, sang, verset. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I will commit heinous war crimes on the behalf of the French. Which is Algeria's French and always will be. Ah, shit. I don't... I'm kidding! I'm kidding!
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm kidding! Burn? No, not Burn. It's the she'll say. I'm kidding. Burn. No, not burn. It's the same guy who did burn. Battle for Algiers was formative for me. Speaking of formative things that were French, French-Canadian, the first time I saw female things that were, you know, was a Quebecois couple. They were, you know, both were topless next to the room we were at the hotel in Wildwood.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So, you know, thank you, Quebec, for the formative experience. Joe, you have to come to Wildwood. Oh, yes. Just for the boardwalk. For Irish weekend. Oh, yes. Joe. Joe.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I don't know what you're trying to get me into, to be honest. Joe. Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, even an Armand into the Irish on, uh, uh, North Hollywood, uh, Irish weekend. Joe, what's the drunkest you've ever been? I was in the army for almost a decade. All right, let's double that. Let's double that. Joe, Joe, have you ever been in a community that was so intoxicated,
Starting point is 00:52:44 communally intoxicated That when you walked over a gutter You smelled booze I mean, yeah, I lived in the barracks My name is Joe Kisebian And I was in the army Buy my book Living in the barracks is just continuous self-destruction
Starting point is 00:53:01 Do buy his books though Or get them on kindle unlimited you cheap fucks uh what is it uh candelars hooligans yeah that's right yeah if i like donnie o'doyle or whatever the fuck's stealing it now um as a student of history uh i i've said it before and i said it before i was on Lions. Hooligans of Kandahar is an absolutely stupendous book, and you should absolutely fucking buy it. Let's talk about the Phillies, I guess. Phillies. Joe, are you a baseball guy or no?
Starting point is 00:53:36 I would say I'm more of a baseball guy than a basketball guy. Okay. Detroit Tigers. That could be another episode. Well, I mean, Detroit tigers, uh, that could be another episode, uh, but, uh, well,
Starting point is 00:53:48 we got your GM now. Um, so with, with, uh, with baseball having a lockout over the expiration of the collective bargaining agreement, there's not really much to talk about,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but we do have something infuriating, but, uh, one thing I would like to correct for the record, because I've been doing this online, mostly, on the bird site but on reddit which is a mistake don't go on reddit uh uh a lockout is not a strike it's not a strike a lockout is the owners denying employees access to the work site wait do people think a lockout is a strike? It's literally called a lockout.
Starting point is 00:54:27 They're stupid. They're like, oh, the players will strike. It's just... Whatever. No one's playing right now. It's the fucking offseason. Anyway. But we do have this heartwarming,
Starting point is 00:54:44 just beautiful story about a community that comes together and saves a double-A baseball team. And it just so happens this double-A baseball team is the Redding Fightin' Phils. Where I saw Taylor Swift before the National Anthem more than once. All right. I really like Taylor Swift. Yeah, go off, King. I know you do, and that's okay. I probably like Metal.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You would be confused and scared at. We both like Metal. Oh, that's true. Do you like the, like, stuff, though? See, I really like Doom. Okay. Doom. I like some tech death.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Like, I really like At the gates um okay i i they're all comrades i think yeah they are i just i i really prefer like i like musical across all genres i really prefer like down tempo stuff so i really got into doom like if you've never have you ever listened to woods of ypres yeah uh yeah yeah i really like them uh i like death i like cynic um i'm not really like a like i like anthrax i like some thrash but like really prefer doom okay yeah no well i oh bonus episode old metal history uh joe what joe do you like metal uh some of it yeah what do you usually listen to is a taylor swift joe well well based based on the fact that joe was in the army in what years i'm sure there's a compilation of him like firing rounds in a tank to uh let the
Starting point is 00:56:17 bodies hit the floor drowning pool drowning pool i was never a drowning pool fan uh i mean if we're gonna go like that far back i was definitely more of a slipknot guy but yeah yeah i listened to like a lot of um metalcore and stuff like that too because i have a terrible taste in music that i i found a i found a coast guard light motor lifeboat school compilation where they were like flipping the 47 footers over and then like they flip back up to drowning pool with the bodies to the floor i'm like that's that's the funniest thing i've ever heard like like uh that's how the boat works and you're the coast guard certain songs that will always appear in every like military or military adjacent things it's like i guess the coast guard's technically dhs now but like one of them is like we'll let the bodies hit the floor, and the other one is something by Toby Keith.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh, there you go. God. I will say for critical support for the Coast Guard in Philly, when Trump was the president, they took the picture, they had the pictures of who's the president, who's DHS, whatever, who's the commandant. They had the three pictures right at the quarterdeck, right at the front,
Starting point is 00:57:22 and they took the picture of Trump, and they put it back in the hallway by the bathroom. did you see one look at his face uh i'm sorry if i'm outing anybody at sector del revé uh i was uh i took an architectural tour of the union league uh in center city and we were just like all right you've got pictures of all the republican presidents except trump and this was like 2018, 2019. They're like, yeah, we haven't gotten it in yet. Yeah. With a straight face. We haven't gotten it in yet. I was like, I respect that.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I respect that level A of lying to me and B, we just don't want to do it, man. I know a Union League Republican. He's actually in city politics. I'm like, every time I haven't met him in a couple years, but it's like, the fuck are you Republican for? You're not a Republican.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You're a centrist Democrat. Like, just fucking. So a Republican. Yeah. Functionally, no difference. You're a decent human being. Why are you in politics to begin with? That's a better question.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah, there you go. All right. Talk to me about the R-Fills. So heavy metal. I'm backFills. So, heavy metal. I'm backtracking. Hail Satan. Yeah. I sometimes have to check if a band's
Starting point is 00:58:34 fascist first. Yeah. Yeah. But this was Phillies. Oh, yeah. That's why I listened to a famously non-fascist band called Mayhem. Oh Oh yeah. That's why I listened to a famously non-fascist band called mayhem. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Oh, I mean he deaf dead definitely fell on a, on a lamp 42 times. No, I, I, I, I found that like a cover of like the misty mountain song from the
Starting point is 00:59:02 Hobbit. And I was like, Oh, this is fucking rocks. I looked at the band. It's like, fascist as shit. It's like, ah, fuck. I listen to Behemoth, so I might.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Yeah, I'm not beyond critique here. So how the fuck did we get the medal? I don't remember. I don't remember. All right, so anyway, Phillies. So this community comes together to save a double 18 called the Fightin' Phils. All right. Oh, Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:59:24 How the fuck i got there yeah there we go um so the league has this thing with the minor leagues if you don't know major league baseball took over the minor leagues essentially last year uh got it i want to say like 30 some odd teams yeah destroyed the appalachian league destroyed the Appalachian League, destroyed the Pioneer League. And one of the things that was part of this deal was like, the fields have to meet certain standards. So in Reading, the field apparently wasn't up to standard. So $16 million was needed, in quotes, to upgrade the stadium to the new AA standard for minor league teams.
Starting point is 01:00:06 The new AA standard. And would you believe that community came together to fund that? Isn't that heartwarming? That is heartwarming. I'm sure we don't need to look beyond the headlines. No, you know, only $7.5 million of that came from the state, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. So half. So there's my tax tax money um right there great great i love sounding like a
Starting point is 01:00:31 like a tax fuck um no i i do the same thing man like i go you go far enough far enough to the left you get to hate taxes again it's the same with guns. And yeah. So seven and a half million came from the state. Thank you. Thank you, Commonwealth. And then Reading City, Berks County and the Reading Fight and Fills contributed three million and the rest is hoped to be funded publicly. This was the press release.
Starting point is 01:01:01 But there's one interesting fact that maybe you guys don't know. I mean, this sounds like pretty heartwarming. Wouldn't you think? The community comes together to save their minor league team, local baseball. Well, it turns out the Fighting Phillies are actually directly owned by the Phillies. And the owner of the Phillies is worth two-ish billion, I think. Two to four.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I've heard up to four. Fuck. John Milton. I fucking hate it here, man. And you know how he made his fucking money? Is it tobacco? It's tobacco. Which, again, ethically there's nothing wrong with. Not at all. No.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Hey, what do I even pay you for? You don't pay me anything. Hey, I... Just keep talking. Someone's at my door i'll turn my mic off uh all right so uh so this so the street beard let's let's let's talk yeah true beer come uh say mean things about armenia yeah um well well do you guys do you remember the maddox guy from the internet yeah of course um Do you know what he looks like?
Starting point is 01:02:07 No, I'm afraid to ask. I mean, he looks Armenian. He's like a bald guy with like a vaguely of that area face. Yeah, he sure does. With the same male pattern baldness, like pattern that like every – like you go to like the Persian store, the guy who runs that has the same. Yeah. Right, but nice mustache. If the picture you saw of him has a mustache. There's an L.L. Bean commercial
Starting point is 01:02:31 and the guy has he looks just like Maddox. Knowing L.L. Bean and knowing that part of the world I'm wondering if they thought that was like ethnic inclusivity oh that's Jesus I don't hold those
Starting point is 01:02:54 views I am mocking the L.L. Bean who are notorious chuds they are chuds that family is chuds give me my fucking unlimited returns back yeah I literally say this as I'm I have L.L. Bean the pl'm wearing I have L.L. Bean the plush cozy mocks on. I also have L.L. Bean
Starting point is 01:03:10 mocks. They're super nice. Don't buy L.L. Bean. Don't buy L.L. Bean. We should talk about the fact that we could fund social services or school. Seven and a half million dollars from the state.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I like how the Redding Phillies contribution, which is the actual Philadelphia Phillies contribution, is included in this $3 million. Because I don't know how much that was of Redding City or Berks County, which I don't know if you know, listeners. Redding is not doing that good. It hasn't been doing good since the the Reading Railroad left and the coal on this part of the world collapsed they could spend that money on social services, they could spend it on schools
Starting point is 01:03:56 they could spend it on fucking anything else yep and I saw a sport, I didn't send it to you, Liam, because it would have genuinely made you froth. I'm sure it would have. It was a Sports Illustrated article about how beautiful and inspiring this was. Get fucked.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Get fucked, bud. If you own a fucking team, you can afford a new stadium. Like, Jesus Christ. Yes. Dude, I mean, I don't know if you and I have talked about this. I'm sure we're in agreement. But, like, that rumor that, like, oh, the Sixers want an arena downtown. It's like, get fucked.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Move to fucking South Jersey. Get fucked, bud. Like, absolutely not. Don't fucking take my money to buy it, to build it. Like, if you want to fucking build an arena at whatever, 9th and Chestnut, be my fucking guest. I'm not paying for it. It's that same shit with cops.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's like, the fucking settlement should come out of your goddamn paycheck, asshole. Like, I genuinely get so fucking mad over this. Like, you are a billionaire. You can afford a new stadium. And holding a city hostage. Which is what it is. Which is what it is.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's emotional fucking abuse by an ownership on the working class of a city. Because all those memories and stuff you have of the team. And we're saying this on a sports podcast you are like a mark like you're not like you're not to to most teams you're not like valued they don't give a shit about the community no they don't and and and the phillies are particularly bad there are some teams that are good with this the phillies are not and they don't give a fuck about the community. And all this shit. Like, Redding is like, oh, dear God, let us keep our stadium
Starting point is 01:05:49 because at least we'll have some money. You know, there's jobs there. And, you know, it's... It's a hostage situation, dude. Yeah, you know, it's literally holding, using emotionally abusive hostage situation where you're holding this team that you put a lot of emotion into hostage so that you don't have to spend money, money that you have.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Because when you become a billionaire, it's not a game about how much fucking money you collect. And and. Oh, my God, like like like tax breaks for stadiums are bullshit. Yes. And every owner can afford it. Every single one. They just don't want to. They don't want to. They don't think they should. No, they don't think they should.
Starting point is 01:06:34 They don't think they should. And they believe they shouldn't because becoming a billionaire involves being another ethical person just by the mere fact of you being a billionaire, unless you won the fucking lottery, which doesn't get you the billions. That's why I'm saying billionaire, not millionaire. Cause there are people who have like, you know, one or $2 million and they're fine.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But like, Jesus Christ, like I really am mad now. That's fine. You'd be bad. Yeah. It's not like, like what the hate flow through you.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Like, like have you spent, like you're like you're you're from out you've spent a lot of time out like uh in york you lived in york for a while right yeah i was born there okay well there you go so you know what things are like out in that part of pennsylvania and reading's a little closer to city than than york no i listen man you know we had um uh not scott parrot scott walker ran for governor uh in pennsylvania and this fucking chud dude and just like i like i've been to his house like i know where it is and i'm just like you literally just sit there on a hill and collect your millions
Starting point is 01:07:41 of dollars and you fucking think everything should be handed to you and he just writes papers writes letters to the york daily record and i'm just like the same thing as i just get fucked bud get fucked yeah like reading is a city that if you go and we have the same thing with minor league baseball where we're people like we had no independently baseball york revolution we had no fucking money and our late mayor charlie robinson who was a klansman and killed a black woman before he was married while he was a cop lily bell allen look it up uh oh he's dead now he was also a democrat so who says there can't be bipartisanship in this country uh basically pushed and pushed and pushed and you know and york is still poor shit dude like i i you know you grew up in kna i grew up in york which isn't as poor as kna but
Starting point is 01:08:33 like it's different like and it was just like watching heroin rip through us in 2008 2009 2010 and seeing this fucking ballpark is just like cool great my friends are dead but uh at least i can take in the sights of mine of not even minor league baseball yeah independently what is it the atlantic league or something yeah um that said go revs uh uh no like like you if you go to visit reading you know which which which is fine you know i mean it supports neighbor city but there's you know i don't know what would bring you to reading but whatever go to go to fucking reading spend money there and oh the pagoda is tight there are parts already that are actually really sweet yeah oh no there's there's there's there's beautiful parts of
Starting point is 01:09:18 reading yeah reading actually kind of rules but in the poor parts of reading you can see the wealth the community has like driving up north broad street philly yep Reading, you can see the wealth the community has. It's like driving up North Broad Street in Philly. Yep. Like you could see the mansions and like what used to be these gas lights and stuff like that. And that once the working class of Reading was no longer of use because they could get – well, not anthracite, but cheaper, shittier coal elsewhere. By two minutes. Thank you. They, you know, all right.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's the same thing as Kensington. Yeah, you're too expensive now. We're going to go somewhere else. And that community could use that money to fund social services in that. Like, I don't know how to say it. Like, fuck this shit. Like, fuck the Phillies for doing this. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Build a stadium your fucking self. You own the team. It's not affiliate. The Phillies are directly owned by the Philadelphia Phillies. Yep. They don't give a fuck, man. All right, let's wrap up because we got to record our bonus. Oh, yeah. I'm so mad. we got to record our bonus. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I'm so mad. We got to laugh at Joe. Yay. Oh, you're back. Oh, was he here for the Armenia stuff? No. Okay, good. Hi, Joe.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Hello. Hello. Tom, what do you call a father Judge grad in a three-piece suit? The Defendant. Father Judge High School. Get fucked, bud. North forever. Go Falcons go.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Onward, onward, behold the dawn of glory. Hail Alma Mater, O North Catholic High. I have an honorary degree from them. You do. It's authentic too i verified i gotta frame it uh plugs uh joe you're here i'm here yeah i host a podcast called lines in by donkeys um i have several books out buy them you might enjoy them uh hooligans of kandahar is i admittedly haven't read your other books but hooligans of kandahar is i admittedly haven't read your other books but hooligans of kandahar is one of the best books i've ever read go buy it uh i haven't read any
Starting point is 01:11:33 of joe's book fucking read hooligans absolutely i will i will i have i have uh fucking what's his name uh max eriarty's book oh good choice yeah uh so i Yeah. So I'll have to read it against K&R. But, Lions Led by Donkeys. Good podcast. Listen to it. Add someone who's not on it. Well, there's your problem. Listen to it. Yes, listen to that. Yeah. Alright. Cool. Let's
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