Ten Thousand Losses - Go Back to Idaho

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

Couch vibes baby! Tom switches to recording on the couch and in shorts. The relaxed vibes help the lads banter for a bit before doing a long discussion on the Damar Hamlin situation. We talk a bit abo...ut the other things going on in the sports world before answering some listener voicemails. Apologies for the noise in the second half - a glitch during recording made it impossible to separate channels (so a certain someone's clicky-clacks couldn't be muted).  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod  Leave us a voicemail: 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. The joy it is to come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge ice balls. We, the Dallas Cowboys, have assassinated John Kennedy. And we're live. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:41 We are alive. Oh, man. Well, it's a new year new you hashtag new year new you that's right yeah it's a new year for you to listen to us bitch about sports yes thank you yes thank you i do like i mean we've already passed our year anniversary we keep forgetting this is like I think it's episode 53 that's pretty cool yeah yeah I mean that's more than a year's worth episodes
Starting point is 00:01:13 we've I think we started this yeah more than a year ago yeah it was October 2021 that's fun we were innocent then that's yeah that's the word for it. Yeah. We hadn't, well, you had tasted the Patreon.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I had tasted Glory, yes. Yes. With, I had not, but I don't know where that joke's going. Anyway. You were great, bud. It's all right. It's all right. I had a long and arduous day back at the the
Starting point is 00:01:46 education mines only to switch my hat and jump right into the podcast mine hell yeah yeah and sports man holy shit like so shit's crazy i don't know things are bad yeah things are bad uh i mean i was i got sick in italy yeah yeah i got a cold. I went to Italy for Christmas. There's so many fucking Italians there. Yeah. It's fucking wild. I learned from our one tour guide because
Starting point is 00:02:21 we were balling enough with the Patreon money that I could afford a private tour guide. Are we that balling enough with the patreon money that i could afford like a private tour guide and are we that bald uh no no uh my wife's union negotiating new contracts so she's getting like a significant pay bump good for her man and i also i also went up in i went up uh you know my master's plus so oh cool cool cool so we got this guy and he's like yeah you like got to do adam Sandler once. Well, not do him. You didn't fuck Adam Sandler.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Fuck him in the butt, yes. Well, this tour guy, he was a cool guy. Chouts out. But he, this just reminded me, so he said, yeah, he got to be the tour guy for Adam Sandler once. Right. But anyway, so he hung out like an hour later. He took us he's like dude he's like so i want to take you to a place and i i sent you the
Starting point is 00:03:13 picture like the wine bar that we were at and it was like i could afford nothing like there's like nothing there was affordable right right right and it was 30 overpriced he's like all right he's like some people think this place is scary i'm like like, there's 500 murders in my city. I'm not afraid of an Italian. I haven't read this void, really. Yeah, no. I fear being sent to a shipping container with the American flag outside of it.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That would be the scariest part. So we go to a drunk drunk locals only wine bar and that was the fucking coolest shit ever that sounds fucking rad and the tour guide started drinking but he's he's telling us he's like yeah he's trying to save up for a ring and he's like i saw i saw hey i saw the i saw the how you say a homosexual man and he had the ring and he goes and then there's like a pregnant pause he's like I'm a I'm another homosexual it's like yeah but you are
Starting point is 00:04:14 Italian so I should have said that I was like dude I don't give a shit either way man but yeah so so maybe he did do Adam Sandler is what we're learning here. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 But that was his reference. Like, I was like, we're for Philadelphia. He's like, oh, Adam Sandler had a movie there. I was like, yeah, he did. Yes. He's like Rocky. I was like, yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Rocky 2. Yep. And 3 and 4 and 5. And you know. Yeah. Creed 3 is coming up this year. Creed 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I don't know. The food is good. I think I'm done with Italy for a little bit I think I'm gonna have to next time we do well in the summer we're going to the UK right that'll be fun thanks Tom's wife's union contract yeah hey if you're not in a union
Starting point is 00:04:59 why don't you fucking make that happen get in a union if you genuinely need to be in a union and you don't you fucking make that happen? Get in a union. If you actually, if you like genuinely need to be in a union and you don't know where to start, like there are ways to find out, like you could like DM a union on Twitter and they will be like, yo,
Starting point is 00:05:15 yeah. Where are you at? Like they will reach out to a union and they will fucking tell you how to unionize. Right. That's, that's their whole fucking thing. They love doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. Sweet, sweet dudes oh if only we had one big union oh yeah no that would also be good but we can't have nice things so shut up i can't that's communism it's bad yeah yeah shut the fuck up speaking of speaking of communism you went to florida right i so here's the thing right right, is that I spent the New Year's in beautiful fucking Savannah, Georgia, which is one of my favorite towns. Savannah, Georgia. I like Savannah, man. Yeah, so we had had these Savannah plans for a while, and I got it in my head that we should derail this entire vacation and go to the Peach Bowl in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yes. Reverse Sherman's March. Yes, yes. rail this entire vacation and go to the peach bowl in atlanta yes between reverse sermons march uh yes yes hey one second i have to respond to a text oh boy bring the good old bugle boys we'll sing another song keep singing sing it was the spirit that will start the world along sing it like we used to sing it 50 000 strong while we were marching through georgia thank you so that was perfect timing so uh so i uh so i was like yeah we should go to the peach bowl and uh crim was like yeah so uh we can't do that not like i don't want to be able to like that would involve totally like reconfiguring the vacation like a week before we left oh that she's gonna have to like go into her google doc and change everything in the itinerary
Starting point is 00:06:56 at the reservation and like and i was like okay well that sucks and i was like looking around i was like you know now i've got in my head i really want to go to a ball game oh hell yeah into jacksonville anyway lo and behold who should be playing in the tax slayer gator bowl but notre dame and south carolina i heard that a lot of times so we go to the fucking gator bowl and it's a blast uh and i i take an interview i'm gonna be in the choir in an upcoming article oh hell yeah yeah and i had to take the interview call from the gator bowl oh my god that fucking rocks yeah i i and the the guy in question is just like what are you doing i'm like i'm at the gator bowl like what are you doing? I'm like, I'm at the Gator Bowl. Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yes. I also have a field report from Philly's finest steaks in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Steaks pretty good. They weren't lying when they said they doused the fries in Old Bay. Yes. Those things were pretty intense. I walked in wearing my Hassan Reddick jersey. Yeah, absolutely. And the owner looks at me, raises his arms, and says,
Starting point is 00:08:13 Welcome to Mecca. Love it. Bismillah. Praise be. Yeah, and I will say, the owner's wife is from Philadelphia. He's from fucking Westchester. Yeah. He was like surprised that we were from Philly. And I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Hi. This is, this is, this is, this is Bam Margera. And this is opening a cheese stick restaurant in Florida. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. It was dirt fucking cheap. The Gator Bowl was a lot of fun. I got pretty drunk uh i was
Starting point is 00:08:46 not as drunk as most of the notre dame fans uh i was rooting because i'm a jackass for south carolina who lost oh you're betraying you're betraying the anderson side yeah we went to uh fort pulaski outside savannah and i had they have a memorial to the Immortal 600, a bunch of Confederate officers, and it says Confederate States of America and Corinne's like, god damn it. I'm like, yeah Confederate prisoners, yeah, I know. Confederate balls
Starting point is 00:09:15 in my ass. How about that? It's like, you can say that prisoners of war died here, you don't need to do the whole song and dance. And people are like, leaning coins on the graves. Let's at the fuck out of here oh i would steal them steal them steal them and bring out the meads grave yeah fuck that shit it was fucking gross this disgusting dude we didn't burn enough no we honestly didn't uh i have a recommendation if you're down in savannah or anywhere it's not the at City ones. Cannot emphasize that enough.
Starting point is 00:09:45 There's a chain of daiquiri restaurants. Restaurants is being very strong. Daiquiri bars, but they do serve food, I think, because they have to. Right, so you'll die. Yeah, right. Called Wet Willie's. I love it there. I went to like three daiquiri bars in savannah because they have like a they have like
Starting point is 00:10:06 a an area where there's no open container laws oh hell yeah and you're just like wandering around on the street with like to-go cups full of fucking frozen daiquiris made with goddamn everclear dude you were born to be just north florida absolute scumbag yeah yeah yeah i was i was i i like i have embraced that about myself like the things that make me like a scumbag or like i like dipping tobacco i like monster trucks and shit i like guns like yeah yeah yeah i mean i would i would live in a double line like i have no problem with that. Absolutely. It's not a political thing. It's just a culture thing.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I embrace North Florida trashy culture. There's a reason a lot of people from Philly, either summer down in North Florida, the northeast part of Florida, Jacksonville area, the trashiest part of my family my extended family has down there like the family member i said who got his shit wrecked for calling the uber driver the n-word right he's that's that side of the family so i mean of course that's it's that that's that part of you know i'm not
Starting point is 00:11:22 saying you would say that no no no I didn't think you were but like the clear like white trash like and I don't even like to use that word but white trash like just like rural working class affectation right like just
Starting point is 00:11:40 embracing it wearing the camo hoodie with dips fits like all over it hey I got most of those out. I got almost all of those out. No, honey, it adds to the camouflage. Yeah, they can't see it. I fit in better when I'm trying to sneak up on them. Dude.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Oh, man. Yeah, like there is something to be said for just throwing off the the class affectations that you were born into for a little bit and just embracing a little bit of just for better word like trashy scumbagness yeah there's there's something there's something liberating about it like for me it's the it's the north wildwood irish weekend oh yeah type of type of which is not actually dissimilar at all from the north florida scumbag it's not it's just different it's it's baseball instead of instead of monster trucks right and it's and it's boxing instead of like mma or wrestling right and it's the same amount of drunkenness.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, I have absolutely fucking no complaints. Yeah. Yeah. You're fucking smoking Lucky Strikes because that's what Grandpa smoked when he killed the Nazis. Yeah. Except doing dip.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, except that I smoke Reds, but yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's like the North, I'm talking like the North, the North, North Catholic, North Wildwood, Irish weekend, but yeah yeah bro that's what I'm saying yeah that's like the north I'm talking like the north the north North Catholic North Wildwood
Starting point is 00:13:08 Irish weekend I am gonna die doing car bombs yeah yeah I like car bombs car bombs two pounds of crabs
Starting point is 00:13:17 a person yep and yeah yep and I know what I'm about son yes
Starting point is 00:13:23 wake up on a pontoon boat not knowing how you got there oh hell yeah oh hell yeah oh man i i mean i i've had some some north wildwood man this is crazy one of one of my north wildwood stories i'd say i don't want to get too into it because it'll like reveal exactly who i am but we were we were stealing rolling rocks out of my buddy's jesus christ yeah but my buddy's dad's fridge and so we're just drinking rolling rocks and my buddy found a 50 caliber round so you could tell already where this is going right an unfired actual live 50 caliber bmg round jesus christ man and we're drinking we're drinking we're drinking and he's like yo dude we should fucking we should fucking find a way to shoot it like i'm like no dude you're a fucking idiot no and so i like i like go to take a piss and i'm like stumbling all over the place i'm fucking drunk as shit so it took a while i come back and he's got the the 50 caliber round in the garage
Starting point is 00:14:38 in a vice grip and he's got a ball peen hammer i'm like don't you fucking do that don't you fucking do that you are gonna kill a fucking kid it's gonna go these north wild houses i'm like they're made out of like plywood yeah you're gonna kill somebody and i and i fucking wrestled it out of him like you're a fucking idiot i should fucking hit you with this hammer dumbassumbass. I was like, oh my god. Like, when I, when drunk Tom is the voice of reason. Oh, it's bad. Oh yeah. Because I'm the one that's like, let's put on sea shanties and start singing.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Let's, you know, like, I'm not the voice of reason. I hear that loud and clear. Oh my god. That is terrifying. I like it, but that's terrifying. Yeah it was i'm like yeah so i i fortunately we didn't do it so but so i guess the story's kind of anticlimactic but jesus christ good lord that's it that's the shit you get up to it irish we're gonna yeah highly
Starting point is 00:15:38 recommend it yeah absolutely yeah i i like i i say white trash i think this that's like the shorthand because i kind of feel bad that I said that. Yeah. But it's like it's not trash. It's not trash because it's that's classist to say. Right. It is. It is classist.
Starting point is 00:15:53 But I do like, you know, I am, for all intents and purposes, a redneck at this point. Right. Less of a redneck than I was. But like I like I grew up like getting drunk in cornfields. Right. And and, you know now being engaged to karen it's really funny because she's like yeah we never did that i'm just like like we never got off for the first day of hunting season i'm like that's fucked up why not yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:16:16 yeah no down where where she grew up where i grew up that's not a thing but you on the, on the contrary point is like, I got drunk and high and walked around the Tioga Marine terminal and watch someone roll up a van and throw, throw a roll of carpet out the back into the Delaware river. I don't know what that was. Yeah. I wonder what that was. I'm worried about it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah. Oh no, we ran the fuck away. Cause we didn't want anyone to know that we saw it. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:43 that's, it's different experiences because shit happens out cornfields i can imagine yeah shit happens in cornfields yeah shit yeah soybeans you know soybeans yeah so go drinking go drinking is what we're saying yeah go drinking whatever happens to you happens to you yeah don't don't let like class middleclass affectations get to you. It's okay to sometimes revel in... Be a scumbag. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, scumbag, Kenzo, redneck, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It's okay. There's a lot of class signifiers. It's completely me. Who gives a shit if you like NASCAR? I love NASCAR. I mean, it's not my thing, but hey, if you got me, if we went together, I'm sure I would have fun. Fuck it,
Starting point is 00:17:29 why not? It's car goes fast. That's cool shit. It is. It's fucking rad, dude. Yeah. We should go do it sometime. Yeah. How many laps? 500 more. Yeah, get comfortable. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:46 We got a 40 rack to kill. Yeah, you thought it was a 30 rack, but then I taped on 10 more. So now it's a 40 rack. Don't worry about that. Oh man, I got bush light camo edition to match my jacket. Oh, I love those, yes!
Starting point is 00:18:03 Every year I make Corinne buy them with me. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, dude. Drink of Kings. That's King shit right there. Bush Light. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I love Bush Light. I'm going to fuck. Bush Ice. Bush Ice. Bush Ice. 6.3% or whatever it is. It's just as strong as an IPA, but no one's going to fucking yell at you. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Oh my goodness. Oh man, we're almost at 20 minutes. We haven't even said the name of the podcast. This is fun. Am I more relaxed? Is that what it is? Yeah, I think so. I think it's sitting on the couch. So you can't see this. I'm sitting on my couch.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I am manspreading. My legs are wide open. I can see you. Yeah, you can see see this i'm sitting on my couch i i am man spreading my legs are wide open i can see you yeah you can see right down my pants i got underwear on yeah well i'm disappointed yeah no so you can get everything you want and uh uh yeah i'm like chill i'm relaxed i think i think this is the way to go. Because this is the podcasting couch. You have podcasted from this couch. Yes. Yeah, and this is usually where I watch sports when I want to be loud. Because if I go downstairs, I'll disturb the Egyptian man in my basement. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah. Yeah. He's not long for this house. Oh, let's fight for the best. Yeah. Yeah. He's moving on bigger bigger and better pastors why i fucking mixed that metaphor up bigger and better things you did your best
Starting point is 00:19:31 yeah you know i teach english did yeah didn't know that you did that fuck all right let's let's start this bitch oh yeah because this is going to take a turn for much more depressing oh yes all right so hello welcome to another episode of 10 000 losses the only philadelphia sports podcast that exists uh continuing our beef with rights ricky sandwiches that's one-sided uh fuck you guys yeah eat shit yeah yeah uh move back to philly spike fucking no no i'm nice yeah i'm your host i'm paying my pronouns are he him with me because yay liam hi i'm liam my pronouns are him yeah announcements i will do the fucking i gotta end the fucking bonus all right so you're gonna need to start bonus i don't know who we're getting on for january somebody
Starting point is 00:20:22 somebody soon somebody soon yeah we'll do it we'll figure it out we got a couple we got a couple uh pots on the back burner i don't know if that was fire we got a couple fires stoked no wait let's just continue no let's just keep let's just no i got one i got one actually, Jay did say he'd come on. Beautiful. He's like, I don't know anything about sports. It's like, neither do we. Neither do we.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Don't worry about it. Yeah, it's cool. All right. Voicemail 267-371-7218. Please give us name and pronouns. Yeah, keep them coming. We actually got a lot stocked. And that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So if we don't get to it this episode, we will get to the next patreon.com slash 10 000 losses we're almost at 200 bucks and i can't remember i think i set up was it 200 to 250 once we hit that we'll start doing like a twice twice a every other month like live q a thing so and uh it could be a live q a we could figure out how to like watch a sports game together and have you guys like join in or something that would be fun i'll just do it but like twitch stream yeah or whatever bobby and uh and alex from tipping pitches if that figured out so i could get it all those guys yeah shit I closed the thing hold on there we go almost
Starting point is 00:21:49 oh man you ready to get like just turn from mirth the relaxation enjoy the couch to just what the fuck genuinely describe his grief yeah i mean thankfully like he's alive he's alive and uh he's communicating he's awake did you see that his first uh words written or some of the
Starting point is 00:22:16 first words he wrote were who won the game i know man what a fucking what a fucking like king dude like team player honestly man so if you don't know what we're talking about we're talking about the more hamlin um if you don't have any idea what we're talking about just stop this pod go google it and just take a look watch the hit um it's not a brutal hit no it's not but just just it broke that way, basically. Yeah. So DeMar Hamlin is a defensive back, right? For the Bills?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah. I believe he's a DB. He might be a DE. Okay. He's number three. He's a safety. My fault. So he's a DB.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay. And they were playing the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm on the name football and routine play. He gets trucked in the chest by what's his name? T Higgins. Yeah. T Higgins. And he wraps them up, gets them to the ground.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Actually like real standard play. Well, well done. And he stands up and then the camera cuts to a bunch of bangles fans and then it cuts back to the players and you see a whistle and he's looking you see the guys are like kind of confused yeah and then it cuts back to the wide field the field broadcast view and uh he's on the ground there's people around him right and genuinely very scary yeah like when a guy when you see the other players like that football players it scares the shit out of you it scares
Starting point is 00:23:53 the shit you the football players are used to injury happening i mean injuries happen hard hits like yeah yeah they're they're they're modern day gladiators you know they sacrifice their lives for our fucking entertainment right for good or for ill but they're used to getting hurt it's it's no there is no football player that is 100 during the season after you know ever ever um they're they're and they're never really 100 after they retire you know be honest about it you know every every i know obviously who they are but like two or three guys who used to play like for real just through like acquaintances one of them who is actually really well known but they uh they're all fucked up right they all have depression and shit um even one of the guys is a quarter very well-known
Starting point is 00:24:46 quarterback um and he's like he's all fucked up too and you know he didn't get hit too hard too many times but right it just happens to you i mean that's yeah and so there's a lot that happens that is like fucking atrocious camera camera lingering on him broadcast team going well we'll figure out something to play dropping the fucking ball the
Starting point is 00:25:15 his heart stopped his heart stopped so that's what happened he collapsed because his heart stopped and they had to resuscitate him on the field twice, I believe. He was not breathing on his own until we're recording this on Thursday the 5th. He did not start breathing on his own. Or he didn't wake up. I don't know if he's still on the ventilator or not.
Starting point is 00:25:37 He did not wake up until last night, the 4th. I'll be right back. I have to use the restroom out of nowhere. I apologize. You know, I think it's a new podcast tradition now is taking dumps taking dumps and hitting pause yeah we love to do it
Starting point is 00:25:52 yeah it's beautiful anyway so back to misery um uh the fucking uh Damar Hamlin hit. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So the dudes, this is like the biggest, the thing that fucking pisses me off the most is how long it took for them to be like, all right, maybe we shouldn't. Absolutely disgusting, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Like, like, how the fuck do you go back to work after that? Right. So if you had like someone at your job, I have a fucking heart attack and leave on an ambulance have a fucking heart attack and i'm and leave on an ambulance on a fucking ventilator them doing cpr the entire way out right you're gonna go back
Starting point is 00:26:32 to fucking processing fucking spreadsheets or whatever right exactly you know like like jesus christ man like the dude had cardiac arrest his heart stopped and the nfl was just like apparently basically radioed down i was like all right five minute break didn't get back into it He had cardiac arrest. His heart stopped working. And the NFL was just like, apparently basically radioed down. It was like, all right, five minute break, then get back into it. Yeah. And the coaches will talk to each other like,
Starting point is 00:26:53 absolutely just, we're not going to fucking do that. Yeah, fuck that shit. We're just not going to fucking do it. Like, make us, like, you drag us out of here. Yeah. And you know, there's always going to be guys on the team who are going to be like, all right, no, man, I'm in. Like, I'm playing. Like, football encourages that sort of like, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Disregard for your own mortality. Yeah, oh, I was going to say self-sacrifice. But yeah, that's a much better way to put it. Yeah, it manipulates, it picks guys who are pretty like good team players and care about their boys and stuff like that. And then it like manipulates that for the, the, the profit of the league.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Right. Right. Cause, cause they didn't want to have to send everyone home and deal with the complaints of fans and then have to find out another time they're going to lose money on it. They wouldn't get the revenue from the fucking media deal, the TV deal.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Cause that's how the NFL makes their money. Right. I think we broke it down once. Like, was it some teams? Some teams, 60% of the revenue is just from their share of the TV contract. You know? And that's their concern. That's the decision-making.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's like this insidious, like, yeah, why would we stop the game? Like, he's off the field now not like oh yeah like he's gone like not like holy shit these boys don't know if they're like buddy's gonna die you know right absolutely like oh did i accidentally kill this guy or is my teammate dead like how the fuck are you gonna play like right why is the fuck are you going to play like thinking that why is the expectation that you would play unless you're a fucking psychopath like what's his name Bursa or Clowny
Starting point is 00:28:31 or Clowny you don't want to kill the guy right that's not he's a competitor he's not an enemy yeah he's not your enemy right and you might be on the same team someday so yeah it's just the nfl proves again and again that it does not give
Starting point is 00:28:53 a shit about the players right absolutely it doesn't it doesn't give a shit about the fans watching it outside of the fact that they're watching it that they're getting that revenue right like imagine taking your kid to that and just seeing that shit and knowing that like this is the price you pay essentially for entertainment yeah they're gladiators they're gladiators it's it's literally putting your life on the line but dying you're dying younger because of how just how fucking popular this sport is and it is it listen we both love football it's a it's a it's a chess match it's right it's a it's a great sport to watch right but it just keeps like it's it's hard to watch it's harder and harder to watch it keeps getting harder and harder to watch yeah and i'm
Starting point is 00:29:52 finding more and more reasons to be like i don't know man can i watch these young guys like because i'm getting to the age where like you know i'll be 35 like i would be you know i'm starting to be much older than these guys and like dude i want to watch kids like throw their lives away do i want to watch guys get get turned into senile right that fucking sucks yeah they're gonna get fucking senile at 50 at 60 you know like do i want to see this? Like, I don't know, man. It's just fucking disgusting. It is. And it's hard to even talk about. One of the things I do want to talk about is, like,
Starting point is 00:30:36 I've seen the takes that are like, oh, we need to ban sports ball, hand egg, whatever. Oh, fuck off. Maybe we do, but, like, I don't want to hear it out of you. No, I don't need that take. I don't need that. Oh, sports ball, hand egg whatever oh maybe we do like i don't want to hear it out of you no i don't i don't need that i don't need that take i don't need that hand egg okay yeah you've lost you and maybe you have some good points but uh messaging matters you lost your audience already right i'm not interested in hearing what you have to say now yeah you're gonna call it sports ball i know that
Starting point is 00:31:00 you don't know anything about the game you know you're just dismissing i mean a lot of these a lot of these kids are playing it they're playing pop warner right it's their life you know and it's and it's something that matters to them and it's important to them and you just dismiss it out of hand like people are listening like it's a big part of culture like football is is an incredibly fundamental part of our culture it's you know college football is a religion yeah it's a fucking religion dude high school football in some parts parts of this country like down in texas down the south dude it is the town shows up for their high school football games and it's it's like a social glue in a in a time when we don't have that much to share right we're all fucking isolated on our own and football and sports at large are one of the few fucking remaining places of like solidarity we
Starting point is 00:31:52 have right you know hey at least we're fucking at least at least we got time away from the fucking grind to enjoy a football game a couple beers man dude and like like it just sucks dude it just sucks all all all of your ire which which if you have it's fine go go to the league 30 fucking minutes to decide that shit like dude put it on hold i i just don't understand how the NFL just continually just shits in its own mouth. Shits in its own mouth, right. That's exactly what I would say. Yeah. It just over and over and over again,
Starting point is 00:32:31 with every fucking chance they have to make a moral decision, they make the wrong one until they're cowed into making the right one. And even then, you know, it's not a permanent decision. You know, it's never, we're really going to change it. Right. We're going to wait for the backlash to die down, then we're going to keep doing the same old shit. Yeah, let's fucking... You don't meaningfully give a shit about player safety.
Starting point is 00:32:53 No. And the players union honestly needs to, I don't know, they need to fucking start playing horrible or something. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either, but yes. They... I don't know how the league keeps getting away with this shit and yeah it's it does it does make it harder for me to watch like i've watched more college football this year than i have in a long time and yay i think it hurts doesn't it doesn't feel good does
Starting point is 00:33:26 it yeah i think that's part of the reason is i feel like it's one thing when it's professionals it's another thing when it's yeah yeah i don't know yeah it's just it's just you know then like i hear it like like i don't know i i i might this part, but like I just found out today that like a student of mine who is slowly kind of, they're at the age where if you're going to start having like, you know, schizophrenic type of stuff happen. Yeah, I'm familiar. It's starting to happen.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And the kid who's a genuinely nice kid uh you know not the brightest kid in the world but like good-hearted and uh like brutal it's and and this kid wanted to be a like a professional football player and he really really wanted to go to college but like over time behavioral problems started creeping up kept off the team and but the kid had like a bunch of nasty hits when he was playing pop warner right it's like well that that shit didn't help did it no exactly like you're like if you're already genetic predisposed for like schizoaffective or something similar you know something in that like realm of realm of of uh illnesses like it's like shit dude that's not gonna fucking help is it right well exactly yeah
Starting point is 00:34:45 yeah like yeah it's morose it's depressing yeah i don't know what else to say about it no i don't think there's too much that we can honestly add to the conversation uh other than yeah we're two people who who love the game of football. Yes. Very deeply in our bones. And it is brutal to watch this, and it's brutal to know the NFL doesn't meaningfully give a shit. You know, I saw that hit, and I got shaky. I was like, holy shit, like, you know, I've had hits like that. You know, I do want to add one thing to this which is the oh he
Starting point is 00:35:29 was vaccinated dipshits oh like oh this this and i and i i wandered in some weird paths on twitter the last couple days and i i had the good nature not to fucking say anything because people were like well this doesn't happen you never hear this this never used to happen before dude all the fucking time you especially at the high school level are kids dying from undiagnosed heart shit yep while they're playing football dude it happens all the time i can think of four or five times it's happened in like my lifetime just in this area and i'm not saying it's common but it happens and there are if you've got a condition and you your heart gets hit at the right nanosecond it fucking shuts down like like there are people like if you get punched it punched in the chest at the right exact right moment you can kill somebody with one punch that shit happens
Starting point is 00:36:26 and you know you know it used to be kids dying because they were fucking dehydrated and and and and the law the law changed on that yeah right like an ncaa ball can still do it oh yeah they still they still they still die from that but you will also hear like oh so and so died at training camp on dice heart condition it happens in the nfl it happens like once every three years right i feel like off top my head and if we went on to wikipedia and said list of nfl players who died while active i'm sure there's at least like one or two every other year it's from a heart condition and yeah it's just it it's just like the the absolute i mean i know i'm preaching the choir with with our listeners but like the goal of the nfl and then it's just like oh the vaccine
Starting point is 00:37:16 vaccine did it like jesus christ oh my god you're fucking like that doesn't even deserve an actual response because it just like to say something like that is so fucking stupid. It's just absolutely just moronic. That's your first fucking take. What kind of brain do you have? How fucking online are you? Like, shut the fuck up, man. Dude, if you said something like that in person, you'd get fucking socked.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Right, exactly. That's the problem so when i run for office your posts um we're gonna send a squad to your house if you say something dumb you're gonna get knocked in the head because we both we've said we said this many times everyone needs to get punched in the face at least once you need to learn the consequences of saying dumb shit. At least once. So I don't know. I don't know if you have anything else on this. Like I just, it's depressing. Fucking sucks. It's fucking, fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:38:11 It's depressing. I don't know. Go birds, I guess. Go birds. Speaking, oh yeah, I don't know. Well, maybe we'll switch tune for a second to something happy for you with baseball. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Got re-signed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking God damn it. Dude, I just got like, sorry, I just got like empathetic rage. Like I just went like shake with our mode where just like empathetic empathy for for people just turns you into like rafael uh what's his name uh yeah yeah i got into the mode where it's like dude i am ready to just execute some batista regime people i don't need a trial it's just you um yeah so divers divers dude 11 years and 330 millions
Starting point is 00:39:10 that's like the thing right now yeah like 11 year deals and like upwards of 300 these guys are secure in the bag get the bag dude i i don't know do they all have the same agent i probably because i know scott bor Boris is like half the league's agent because he fucking gets them the bag. Dude, there's like a set of fans who are like Scott Boris haters. It's like, dude, why do you care? Oh, because you get overpaid in the team. It's like, it's not your fucking money.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's not your fucking money. It's not your money, dude. Who cares? Like, I know like Reese is like a Scott Boris client. And they're like, oh, well, he's going to win a lot of money. Good. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:39:54 He deserves it. Dude, they're making billions. They should make millions. Like, come on, man. So I like the Sports Illustrated. So Sports Illustrated has turned into clickbait i don't know if you've noticed that i haven't read sports illustrated oh dude like whenever you search like anything basel related like si will come up and it'll be like here's how mike trout can return
Starting point is 00:40:17 join the phillies and you click on it when it's the article from like 10 like 10 years ago or something right it's like old and it's like whoa when he when his contract's over he can sign and it's written like oh man i gotta get my word count up i gotta i gotta hit a thousand words on this so you gotta repeat who mike trout is what what baseball is what teams he plays for with our histories but yeah si it's it's their website's real bad i haven't read the paper in a long time right um you know the primary reason i subscribed to it when i was young well you know why yes i know i know why yeah yeah and then and then you know broadband internet reached my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:40:58 i didn't need that anymore so um yeah they suck but um yeah so good on the but they oh anyway the sports illustrated uh headline is extending rafael divers gives the aimless red sox a direction it's like oh oh oh poor red sox fans yeah we we deserve it yeah yeah but um no it's good it's good uh i don't know it's it's been slow It's good. I don't know. It's been slow baseball-wise. We've picked up a couple like, I don't know, scrub guys. A lot of cash considerations going around right now.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah. But, dude, as of time of recording, 39 days. Pitches and catches report. Oh, you must be so excited. I'm so happy. I bought season tickets. Bought season tickets. Thank you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Wipes. Union contract. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Well, she originally, like, we were, like, she was like, oh, we should buy it, like, for Christmas. Like, and our usual seats were available. And then we bought the Sunday plan.
Starting point is 00:42:03 We went to get, because that's the only time we could, you know, we're teach like, I don't live in the city. Like, fuck. Um, I can't buy plan a, I can't go on a Wednesday fucking night as nice as that would be. But the, so, so anyway, I had to buy more expensive tickets because the, all the cheap ones sold out, but they're pretty, they're pretty nice. So, yeah. Fucking hell yeah, dude. Baseball, a sport where CTE is very unlikely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Not impossible. I'm sure it happens, but very unlikely. All right. Shit. So I don't know. I don't know. We talked about the cheesesteak place. The birds.
Starting point is 00:42:47 That was a bit. There's a reason Gardner mentioned she's a backup quarterback. I think we could say that. Yeah, that was pretty ugly, dude. Yeah, it's just. Dude, if I'm going to watch you kill yourselves, like at least at least try. Yeah. The Eagles, the Eagles are. I i mean they only had two losses but
Starting point is 00:43:07 that was tough man that's tough um the what was i gonna say um the team's hurt though like there's a shitload of injuries again this sport fucking hurts so many people dude dude it's fucking insane. Yeah, so a lot of these guys are hurt. They're limping. I mean, they have a playoff spot.
Starting point is 00:43:30 They want to try and clinch the first this weekend. The first seed. Yeah, we'll see what happens. We're playing the Commanders? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No, we're playing the Giants, dude. Giants. Is the last game Commanders? Is this No, we're playing the Giants, dude. Giants. Is the last game Commanders? Is this not the last game? No, because we're like 13-2. We're 13-3. Are we 13-3? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Oh, shit. Did I miss a game? This is the finale, yeah. I must have missed a game in Italy and not realized it. Yeah. No, wait, because I left on a Saturday. I played on Saturday. Welcome back to sports chat, everybody.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yeah. Welcome back to did Tom exist in a feud state for several days without realizing it? It's possible. Yeah. I woke up back in this country. I did get an Italian cold. I'm proud of you. It's probably different from the American cold.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, it's fancier. It's fancier. It's surprisingly more racist. Shockingly more racist. I wouldn't say surprisingly. Just eggplants coming out of my nose. Alright. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:47 But let's talk about things that are good. Oh, I do want to say one thing about the cheesesteak place. Go back to that real quick. Yeah. You said the cheesesteak was good. Yeah. All right. Did they pay you?
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, they did not pay me. That's not what you said to me over the text. I said it was fine. I said it was fine. You said it was fine. You said the roll was definitely not Lucio's roll. It is a Lucio's roll, but it's one of those bake-at-home Lucio's rolls. Oh, okay. But those onions look gross.
Starting point is 00:45:15 They were fine. I actually kind of liked them. Oh, okay. Would you be surprised to learn that I have a weird thing about onions? No, I wouldn't. Not a little. Not a little. I got to have them tiny. I bet you fucking do.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I got to have them tiny. Yeah. I like onion rings. I just don't like big chunks of onion. I woke up once with a cockroach in my mouth. Oh. Yeah. So ever since then.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I get it. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. I probably made someone throw up just with that. No worry. Thank you. Thank you for it. Yeah, if you threw up, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I'm not. Suffer. Dude, couch vibes. Dude, I'm like, dude, it's cool. Dangless. Dude. Dude. Dude.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Dude. Dude. I feel like I took an edible just sitting on the couch. Proud of you. Dude. We got it. We got it. Dude.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Because. One of these days I'll do an edible for the. This is my weed turn. 420 blaze it. I got to do one because I. The jokes I was making to my wife on the way to the airport, they're fucking bangers.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Did she like the jokes? No, but she never likes my jokes even when they're funny. Tom's wife. Yeah, but they were fucking bangers. I was like, oh my god, I gotta do this recording because I was on one my god I gotta do this I gotta do this recording because I was
Starting point is 00:46:45 dude just A game A game on one so I'm already like just the couch I'm just melting into it it's already like I already feel like in that mode I don't even know if I mean that as an insult you mean amazing in the classical sense where you're just stupefied
Starting point is 00:47:01 yeah yeah yeah yeah alright so Six years six years are good apparently uh we're fine uh they're still they won most of like their last 10 so all right yeah yeah my beloved celtics are currently eating shit so dude regression to the mean man that's right i hate everything. Yeah. So, I mean, Sixers, I've watched a couple of games. You watched the whole game last night, which I meant to, but I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Because I'm, dude, if I said this already, because I'm not sure if I said this before we started recording. I'm still on Italian time. So, I fell asleep. I'm holding up there, bud. Dude, good. So, oh, dude, we lost to the Wizards fuck that happened while I was in Italy then we lost to Pelicans and then I come back to the country
Starting point is 00:47:52 and we win that's how it works that Philadelphia needs me that's right I gotta be somewhere within the I gotta be within a walking distance of regional rail or else the Sixers will lose i i yeah i'll buy that yeah uh so uh let's see what else we got flyers flyers uh who gives a shit oh they've been doing better they've been doing better
Starting point is 00:48:18 uh i guess the floggings will continue until Morell and Bruce reports. That's about right. See what my horse did to me. That's about right. Yeah. It's going to do that to you. All right. Oh, yeah, I did see that. I saw this today.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Texas fired its head coach for domestic violence. Yep. At least they fired him. That's good. Don't worry. That will be the subject of a future episode we're gonna talk about uh uh data white and the ufc oh yeah yeah uh we'll we'll talk about that um fuck dude hey how about you don't hit your partner how about that i know it's a shocking thought but it how about you don't do that how
Starting point is 00:49:05 we don't hit people in general unless they're nazis all right um all right so we got three voicemails today uh seems like we have a lot of people in minnesota for some reason for some reason despite you know yeah we respect Minnesota yeah you wouldn't treat us with respect we wouldn't treat you with respect it's mutual disrespect let's agree on it alright so anyway Corey from Minnesota sends us a voicemail let's see what he has to say
Starting point is 00:49:36 hey hey Tom yay Liam this is Corey calling in from Minnesota Christmas Eve A couple shoots to the wind Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:54 I Melted in the couch It was too fucking cold to go out and do anything else That's reason you're fucking Minnesota anything else that's reason fucking Minnesota yeah that's on you guy um oh shit my pronouns are he and thank you
Starting point is 00:50:12 uh gotta remember the pronouns um yeah so I was watching the uh Eagles and Cowboys game tonight yeah we fucked that up. All I want to say is rip the Eagles season.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Thanks, dude. Yeah. So fucking disappointed. They great clinched the playoff spot. Really, because I wanted to watch my beloved Vikings get their shit kicked in once again. They'll find a way, bud. Go Birds. Go Birds. Not because I don't want to see the Vikes. then once again they'll find a way but go birds thank you go birds
Starting point is 00:50:45 not because I don't want to see the Vikes don't don't don't call them the Vikes I sometimes call them
Starting point is 00:50:54 the Vikes winning the Super Bowl and then destroy each and everything sounds like a name of an SS division that's true
Starting point is 00:51:01 I don't like that at all currentest of years 2022 um hmm hmm division. That's true. I don't like that at all. Currentest of years, 2022. But because I wanted to see the Eagles beat the Vikings this close to
Starting point is 00:51:16 postseason. To make fun of our listeners. They love it. That's really all I wanted to fucking see. Just those spicy, spicy memes. Because you guys in Philadelphia, you folks in Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:51:31 are just absolutely fucking insane. And we don't have nearly that level of energy. It's too cold. In the land of hot, tater tot hot days. The northern city's vowel shift is strong in this one yeah yes uh happy holidays um and y'all have a nice safe and hopefully warm uh new year well thank you cory thank you cory that was nice yeah uh we we bust balls only the people we like apparently uh yeah uh no thank you for that message uh although yeah so apparently the up in the great lakes
Starting point is 00:52:15 belt that there was like a massive vowel shift going on interesting and i i heard a little bit of that in there um he said, say like, see, almost. Not that I, oh my God, can you listen to how these guys talk? Like, they sound like the film or something. Like, I have, oh, I want to dive in. This is something else I wanted to bring up. Hoagie Mouth. Yeah, Hoagie Mouth.
Starting point is 00:52:38 So, all right. We're in Italy and we go on this Chianti tour. And it was me and my wife and then a family from Idaho. Oh, wow, dude. And it was like you brought it out of LDS Current Magazine or whatever the fuck like BYU all over these guys. Oh, no. And they weren't Mormon because they were drinking. But thank God. because they were drinking but thank god like if you were like ai generate art of a white american family they were that right and the dad was like a high school football coach and dude the eyes like
Starting point is 00:53:16 i can smell the conservatism i can smell fox news on you and they were they were all super conservative and the one kid like i don't know he's like a couple years younger than me but like they're all married um so it was like he was married into the family right and he starts like talking shit about philadelphia like after he had like a couple wines and i had a couple wines it's like yeah so uh phillies they stink right i was like dude uh what team what team do you support there in idaho what that what oh that's right you don't have a team in your state and like what do you support the mariners he's like oh i don't even get some air and he's like oh not really it's it's too it's too liberal for me in seattle
Starting point is 00:54:00 oh i was like oh man don't i was like don't come to philly then man like we're the weird kind of liberal that like like, don't come to Philly then, man. We're the weird kind of liberal that, I wasn't going to say we're communists. We're the weird kind of liberals because we also like guns too. But, you know, whatever. But he was trying to like, what would Bryce Harper ever do? I was like, he won MVP twice.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Why are you trying? What is this? You're trying to start shit talk to a guy who's the king of shit talk. Get the fuck get the fuck out of here go go mash the potatoes loser like famous idaho potato ball you're by the way your wife's not really blonde like all right no i can see those tips yeah oh 100 you and matt you can i can you can rotate that family in your mind right now the the live i could see the live laugh love right you know and and and you know um the love lives here sign on the front of the house and and the golden retriever that
Starting point is 00:54:55 they don't take care of right of course it's got bad it's got bad hips and dad yells it's got hip dysplasia yeah and he and he scoots on the carpets because he's got a shit because you don't take him out a out enough right yeah like fuck you guys like did try and start sick talk but then the other thing part of that was the most atrocious accents ever heard like we I think as far as American
Starting point is 00:55:15 accents go right I think we're kind of okay here in the Northeast I feel like we've got some interesting accents right they spoke the the most generically grading american accent i've ever fucking heard in my life not it's not like a like a midwestern like chicago illinois type anything like that which has its own charm it's not like like minnesota which has kind of its own own thing going on right just plain grating like like cal like a real bad california but worse like i i
Starting point is 00:55:50 don't know it's just like i'm like and i'm talking i turned i turned to my wife i'm like do we sound like this you hear these italians speaking beautifully beautiful sonorous language that just flows and then you know oh... How? I can't even do his voice. Like, how are the Phillies good at all? Is there anyone ever good in Philadelphia? Bryce Harper, he's not very good, is he?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Stop fucking talking. Yeah, shut up. I don't know what just came out of my mouth there. Yeah, like, shut the fuck up before I come back there. Like, because he was younger, I'd be like, dude, don up before i come back there like like like i because he was younger i'd be like dude don't make me come back there and like slap you like i wanted to slap him in front of his wife shut up like like ah dude and then and then his dad was complaining he's like oh you're a teacher he's like what do they teach you know what are they all the shit the crap they
Starting point is 00:56:44 teach kids these days like what do you mean like tell? He's like, what do they teach? You know, all the shit, the crap they teach kids these days. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, tell me, what do you mean? What do you mean? What's the fucking joke? He's like, you know, it's all that shit about gender. So I was like, oh, I teach English, man, so I don't know. Like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I haven't encountered any of that, but, you know, where we are. Like. Fucking dumbasses. Dumbasses. Fucking go back to Idaho. I retract my support for the potato bowl. Fuck that shit. You're not good enough to have a team.
Starting point is 00:57:11 All right. They don't even think they have a minor league team. They might, but I don't know. What's their city? Boise? Yeah. Boise, my balls. Boise, his balls.
Starting point is 00:57:21 All right. Anyway, another voice. You guys are getting a meaty one today they got the couch yeah he's freewheeling today dude the couch the couch is the best thing i've ever done like i don't know what the energy from this couch is just like amazing all right um let's see we got another voicemail. I think this one's from Andrew. And he sounds, he has a good, honest sounding accent. What's going on, y'all? My name is Andrew from South Philly. First off, love the show. I want to congratulate Tom for making it through another holiday season.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I'm a teacher too, and I know we all deserve the break we're going to get. It's been a tough year. I'm sure it's been a tough year for Tom too, so from one teacher to another, shout out to you. And I want to congratulate Liam. I haven't gotten a chance to do that because I don't actually know him.
Starting point is 00:58:20 But congratulations to Liam on his engagement. Maybe now he'll engage with some real politics. Hey, oh. Ooh, my ass. Fuck Penn State. Love the show. I have a question about hockey.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't follow. I want to start off by saying that all sports are reactionary, which is one of the reasons I love the show, because it's a non-reactionary sports show. And I think if you look in the world of sports podcasting, everyone's kind of looking for a way to talk about sports that isn't kind of rooted in patriarchal capitalism. And so I'm going to say that, like, all sports are reactionary
Starting point is 00:58:59 and all the, like, wokeness and whatever you get, especially from, like, the NBA or even the NFL or any of that. I think that can all be summarized like Gordon Haywood wearing a group economics t-shirt to armor. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It's bullshit. And you know, they're just doing what is the minimum they can do to keep their customer base happy. Right. All sports reactionary, even the ones that paper over it, especially when it comes to gender. But one thing I've noticed is that the hockey appears to be more reactionary
Starting point is 00:59:38 than any other. And I don't call hockey that closely. Let me specifically say the Philadelphia Flyers fan base is much more reactionary than any other in the city. It is the most conservative out of them.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I might be wrong on hockey altogether, so I guess my question is why is hockey so reactionary? And if I'm wrong there, and I probably am, why do you think the Flyers are so reactionary? The Flyers fan base specifically. Obviously, it's going to be a whiter sport. That's a big part of it.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Big part of it, yeah. You've got to be playing in cold places. Money you need for the gear, too. I'll get back to it. African-American people, people of color who live in Minnesota. I don't know why that's the case. It's not more violent than any other
Starting point is 01:00:33 sport. There's fights in plenty of sports. I guess you have blades on this. I don't see a reason. That's my question for you. Why are the Flyers more reactionary than the other fan base? If I didn't say it before, Buckton State, great job. Third time.
Starting point is 01:00:53 There's a lot in that to unpack. Yeah. I think a lot of it is that it's a wider sport. I believe that basically there's masculinity tied up in it and the league talks of masculinity especially the league has made no concessions meaningful concessions to
Starting point is 01:01:12 try to get anyone interested in it right um i think that you grow up playing it in very white and at least you know a bunch of years ago working class so white working class areas right and uh then those people are sort of you know maybe become wealthier but they keep uh any biases and pass them down to their kids right uh you know my dad played hockey as a young white man in Boston but yeah I don't know man I think a lot of it is that the fan base is specifically proud to be reactionary
Starting point is 01:01:54 conservative bullshit there's a lot of pride in being like a dick you're right yeah I'm gonna be like the epic troll guy I'm gonna I don't cry I'm tough as shit. Because I play a sport where you don't need teeth. I think that's part of it too.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I think also it's a sport that does gatekeep. Impressively. Because if you can't afford the gear and shit, because it's not cheap. I was really into hockey as a kid. My mom looked into it. She's like, basketball, baseball, and football. That's what you can't afford the gear and shit because it's not cheap. I was really into hockey as a kid. My mom looked into it. She's like basketball, baseball, and football. That's what you can afford. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Like I could say from the perspective of the Flyers fans, I remember listening to the Fanatic back when Mike Pissinelli was on it. He blocked me on Twitter. Oh, yeah, he blocked me because I called him that.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I said he wanted to be a kingmaker. No one gives a shit about him. Nice. I wonder which one hurt him more, because you know you heard Pissinelli all the time growing up. So, he had a caller. they were talking about the Flyers. This was a couple of years ago and it was a black gentleman calling in and he said, basically this question, he raised the point.
Starting point is 01:03:14 He said, listen, what is, what is up with some Flyers fans? I went to a Flyers bar and they gave me a hard time. I'm a diehard Flyers fan. I'm black and I didn't go to my usual you know i went to a different place and this just tells you the attitude because pissinelli goes oh come on there's no problem you're overblowing it you probably took like just completely dismissed it right and it didn't let the dude answer back he tried to start pushing back it's like oh you're a fucking clown or whatever he calls him uh a dope and it hung up on him and
Starting point is 01:03:51 that's there you go there's problem number one right like that kind of attitude to acknowledge it yeah is but it's definitely a sport that one is already super white right two has you know what you had said but three you know it's really popular in parts of the city where the white
Starting point is 01:04:18 flight moves and a lot of those idiots heard shit from their parents or grandparents about the city. And that's just baked into their familial culture. Right. And the structure of their neighborhood and just saying shit like that. My mom wouldn't put up with that kind of stuff in our house.
Starting point is 01:04:42 My grandma wasn't like that. But a lot of my friends who lived in Port port richmond and the river wards and stuff right they had that similar type of attitude right you know uh this racist bullshit and i think it's just i think it's just like like every not not so much a reflection of the the sport but like the community that it's popular i'll I'll buy that same thing in Boston. Right, right. Yeah, it's... I don't know if Flyers fans are any more reactionary
Starting point is 01:05:16 than other hockey fans. They're not more reactionary than Bruins fans, I can tell you that. Yeah, but out of the major four in Philly, they definitely are the most. You know, and I think that tracks with that study that they did with what sports fans...
Starting point is 01:05:33 Well, the most conservative sports fans, college football. Right. With NBA being the most liberal and then baseball is kind of centrist. NFL is a little more... It was a little centrist too because i think that's got like real broad mass appeal i think actually baseball is a little more conservative than football and nfl nfl yeah it's it's interesting um you know philly's got a deep legacy of racial shit you you know, with redlining and white flight, blockblasting, and all that kind of
Starting point is 01:06:07 stuff. Being perfected here if not invented. Look, everything's intertwined, right? And you're seeing a reflection of material conditions and culture in a sports fandom. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Gotta get Marxist there there right absolutely all right we got one more voicemail today uh because we were already running long dude it's the couch man time just just goes away yeah yeah dude i'm falling into the black hole right now. Probably, yeah. It's interstellar. Let's see. The last one is from Aaron in, not from, in Michigan. Interesting. Yes. Aaron's called him before. Hey, this is Aaron in Michigan, not from Michigan.
Starting point is 01:07:04 He here an asshole. And I'm just trying to make a note when I'm listening to you guys because I have too many things that I want to reply to. Oh boy. The ownership of the NFL, you got it exactly right. But I'd also
Starting point is 01:07:20 extend that to just about all the ownership of the Ricketts that own the Cubs could give any single NFL owner a run for their money as far as shitting them. Oh, yeah. Fuck the Ricketts. Anyway, that one, and
Starting point is 01:07:35 I wanted to also mention that our union correspondent was right on about questioning what the Brazilian team's father and grandfather. So shout out to him for getting that set on. Anyway, have a great time.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I'll take notes next time. So I actually remember what the hell I'm going to say when I leave a message. Sounds good. Well, Phil, thank you, Aaron, in Michigan. Appreciate it. This is an anti-homework podcast, I don't give homework. Thanks, Tom's wife.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Thank you. I don't give homework, by the way. I don't know if you knew that. I don't believe in it. I mean, in our modern educational system, it's like, shit's already taped on. Fuck it, it's not in our modern educational system. It's like, shit's already taped on the fuck. They're not going to do it anyway.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Right? Yeah. So why? I don't give a shit. All right. Andrew would understand what exactly the fuck I'm talking about. They don't do anything anymore. Dude,
Starting point is 01:08:43 they're so fucking there. I cannot wait until until like the kids who were young like the younger kids during covid are gonna be fine the middle schoolers and high schoolers are fucking done dude they got no education during during this virtual bullshit and then they came back to school sick and shit they all got fucking rona so their brains are all fried too like mine we We're all done. It's like fucking homework. What are you going to do? Are you going to read? Can't read when I'm
Starting point is 01:09:09 in the fucking room. They barely read if I make them. Oh my god. Is this three pages? Yeah, shut up. Yeah, it's three pages. I actually will make fun of them. I'll go, oh my god, you imagined reading in school? What a surprise. I'm shocked that you actually have to.
Starting point is 01:09:27 You spend all day reading the internet. This is not hard. Like, just stop. Stop complaining. Just read the fucking book. I don't say that, but it's like, Jesus Christ. All right, we got one DM from our old friend, Metric Mike, and he kind of ties into what we were
Starting point is 01:09:46 saying earlier so uh two hey hello tom and yay liam to a tag thank you it is said during the packers game remained in and ended up in concussion protocol the following day of course the nfl says nothing in game tripped the protocol naturally thus remained in some noted that the client's performance following him hit his head
Starting point is 01:10:08 compared to pre-hit a few former former players have suggested the two shouldn't play for the remainder of the season I agree
Starting point is 01:10:14 feels concerning to not have three times the same player and I feel this race is concerning exactly what's going on in the organization
Starting point is 01:10:20 specifically in the NFL broadly fuck Penn State fuck OSU fuck the Dolphins yeah dude who uh uh who was the guy that Indianapolis is usually specifically in the NFL broadly. Fuck Penn State. Fuck OSU. Fuck the Dolphins. Yeah, dude. Who was the guy that Indianapolis Colts quarterback peaced out? He's Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah, do an Andrew Luck, man. Yeah. Just peace the fuck out. Just save that money. Dude, you're not worth. It's not worth it, dude. No, it's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah, for the Dolph yeah yeah that that again the fuck is wrong with this sport fuck man come on that's just a fucking i i did um i i actually did some reading on uh chuck and eric uh on the plane yeah and apparently he it wasn't like reported widely but he went into severe decline like the last 10 years of his life like really severe fucked up decline um and he was an asshole too to begin with but um he was like kind of glad that he heard uh what's his name frank everett but uh and he and he's like oh all these players these days they're fucking they're fucking wimps they won't play on both sides of the ball it's like dude okay guy okay okay but i can put my shoes on properly yeah yeah i can count i can count the
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Starting point is 01:12:16 some corporate executives there down there. They can't deal with that. They gotta shit the sink themselves. Right, right, right. Alright. By the way, just thinking of like diamond club benefits if anyone can get me the if anyone knows anyone can get me the clubhouse cheesesteak from the phillies because apparently the clubhouse cheesesteaks are really good and if there's any way i could fucking get that that'd be pretty sick i don't
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