Ten Thousand Losses - God Hates the Flyers

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

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. Go Bears, go Bears.. you gotta think the fanatic's gonna go down to her and give her a bunch of hot dogs or the snowball starting to come they'll boo us but they won't let anybody else boo us Here we are. Hello, and welcome to episode 6 of 10,000 Losses, the only good Philly sports podcast. Sorry we missed you the last couple weeks. Our personal and professional lives were in turmoil then it was thanksgiving and we love you people but not that much yeah um i am liam anderson uh my pronouns are also he, him. All right.

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I'm committed to it. We want to start a mailbag segment where you guys call in. We have a voicemail set up. It'll be in the notes, but it's also 267-371-7218. Hopefully that's the right number.

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um but we will fight you yeah but for for fun for fun that way i'm not getting that way we're not gonna get kicked off podcasting oh well that was this this is like your other podcast where you talked about who you would fight for real for money at the end of the last one. Yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting concept. This is just for fun, though. We're not doing it for money. We don't have any money.

No, we don't have any money. Shouts out, though. I forgot your name, but you've been messaging me every so often with your lovely reactions. I mean that sincerely to what you think is funny and about getting in fights and that kind of shit. So we appreciate that. I think the first contact was on my Twitter profile. I have this amazing Craigslist entry. It was like in.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Italian looking to fight the Irish boy. Yeah. I'm an Italian. I'm trying to prove that Italians are very Irish. And the guy messaged me saying like, yo, like 10th and Tasker. Let's go.

So shout out to you. I forget your name, but you rock. Okay. Do you want to talk about our stupid fucking football team? We have to. So the Giants loss is fresh in my mind. Yes. We beat the Saints.

That was good. But that was kind of in the distant past. We should probably just focus on the negative. Yeah, let's focus entirely on the negatives, actually. This is a Philly sports podcast. We made the Giants look good.

That was pretty fucking disheartening. So they're 4-7 now, I think? Yeah, they're 4-7. But hey, we're still on top of them in the NFC East. Yeah. Woo-hoo. Fuck, this sucks so bad. I mean, this was a base.

This was like a Phillies game, score-wise. The Phillies lost 13-7 to the Pirates. It probably happened, too. Yeah, knocking us out of playoff contention. Yeah. Speaking of knocking us out of playoff contention. Speaking of knocking us out of playoff contention, I went into this game thinking, alright, the Giants suck.

And as stated, I am a Patriots fan by trade. So I know that the Giants... I deserve it. The Giants can be pretty fucking surprising when they want to be. But the Giants didn't look good either. No, they did not. It was just hideously unwatchable football. The defense, I mean, holding a bad team to 13 points is completely acceptable.

Yeah. That was not the defense. The thing with the Giants defense, though, is that it was just total patchwork. Like, can you name just right now? I'll Venmo you $5 if you can name me a guy on the Giants secondary. I literally cannot. Yeah, no, me either. Yeah.

Yeah, I literally cannot. We made their defense look like they were gods. Yeah, we made them look like the 85 Bears. Yeah. It was so frustrating because there were moments where things looked good. Every single time it seemed like we got to a rhythm, there was a pick or turnover. Yeah.

And if you have two picks instead of three picks, I think we win that game. Mm-hmm. Literally at that point. Hurts did not. He looked horrible. I mean, he looked horrible. I don't think there's another word for it. But, you know, he also would have thrown two game-winning passes

if not for his receiver being a total fucking moron. Right. And we're throwing to the wrong receiver. I feel like, again, we're getting into this sort of discourse where Eagles fans don't understand the play calling, where why are we not just throwing to Devonta Smith and Watkins, almost exclusively at this point. Right. And Goddard.

That's a clear one, two, three. Yeah. And we're throwing it to Jalen Rager. Who can't catch. Who clearly can't catch. He can't do his job. And that was an issue when they drafted him. And when we drafted him, oh, well, he's a really good kick punt returner.

And I don't know if you noticed that on punt returns, they were kind of – They kick short now. Yeah. And they were kind of like, oh, let's see what happens. Maybe he'll fumble it. Well, they basically dare him to come out with it. Exactly. You know, I'm of the opinion that, that like you almost never are gonna get you but you

you should always just fair catch it right but like he just looked i mean rigor rigor however you say he just looked pathetic man cut his ass i'm sorry like i i did not cut his ass but like see what you can get for him he's clearly not able at least on this team maybe all he needs is a change of scenery to play at this level consistently yeah and it's really frustrating because every time you don't every time you throw to rigor not maybe not every time but you impede davante smith's development as a receiver the guy won the fucking Heisman Trophy. He's really fucking good. And also, Quess Watkins is trying to play hero ball.

Yeah, and he was pretty good last game. Quess Watkins has... I really like the dude. He has what feels like the steadiest hands of anyone on that team. It feels like he can catch anything. I think we're we're i mean

it's it's a saying i guess in baseball but it's also in any sports like riding the hot hand i feel like sirianni's worried about riding the hot hand lest he be figured out well he i mean from what you our golden retriever boy yeah he doesn't know what he's doing dude like right he's he's so visibly in over his head. We run the ball one week and it works, and then we just say, fuck it, we're not doing that anymore. Or we do it in situations that don't make sense. And that was my primary frustration, is that I'm watching us go four and out, four and out, four and out, where it's like, okay, well, it's third down and they're expecting us to run it because it's third and two, so let's throw it.

But it's like, you have three guys who can legitimately run the ball right now. And those option plays are working where you have, it's not just an RPO, but who's actually picking up the ball. Right. You know, the draws. Well, remind me of Pete Carroll in the Super Bowl where basically you just think yourself stupid. Right. And like Sirianni is in so far over his head that he's overanalyzing everything 900 times. And it's just like, yeah, they know you're going to run.

Do it fucking anyway. They don't know who's going run that's the thing right because you have three options you could you could line up in like some uh t formation we're bringing it back and uh you don't you wouldn't know who's actually just run the navy offense uh i was saying what was it the uh the box what box was it? It was the H box. The Notre Dame box. Oh, the Notre Dame box. Yeah.

Yeah. Run the – yeah. One went for the Gipper. You ever watch Navy when all three of their running backs are clicking and their quarterback will go like five of – like five of seven for like 58 yards but navy will have won the game like 45 38 and each dude has like 280 yards rushing it's just like such a bizarro world way to play football just like at some point you just do that like yeah what you're doing like it's it's one thing if you're sort of saying like, again, like I've said this about my my default team, the New England Patriots, is that like I've been frustrated.

I've been frustrated with how it feels like Bill Belichick keeps the training wheels on Mac Jones a little bit. And like, it's obviously to prevent mistakes. But at the same time, like you're inhibiting like you gotta let your qb fuck up yeah but i get taking the ball out of your quarterback's hands what i don't do that what i don't understand is like we're gonna do it one week and then not do it the next week right there's no problem in the like you may look a little weird in the modern nfl like having a run first offense but you're not the first team to do it no and like you're not the like the the broncos of four years ago won a super bowl with the corpse

of peyton manning right and it forces it forces your team your opponent to plan differently than they would plan against the other team if you're a run first offense and the run game really does open up the pass and in jalen hurts stage of this career i mean hopefully this is just a stage of his career is he's not good at discerning these these looks so if you're if you if you trick them in a good play action rpo or screen or whatever to get that ball out of there where he doesn't have to make three or four different reads. And that's where things got really painful in the fourth quarter of the game. It's like Madden just streak, streak, streak, streak. And he's just sitting there. And he actually had time in the pocket.

He had time to make decisions. And no one's getting open. And I'm like, did someone tell him not to scramble like is he does he think that he's not supposed to get out of like i was it was it was so frustrating i was screaming so much at my wife actually i would be like can you stop like no no the sports ball's on um and she's like yeah can you stop like it's actually like like upsetting me what's your yelling uh because it was it was genuinely that frustrating and you know davante smith you know there's a i don't know if you've been been tuned into this like like

oh he was open he wasn't open there's like a big debate on twitter about that on that last play uh i haven't seen that, but... Yeah, I mean... Well, it was Elliot Shore Park, so I... Poor man's Howard Eskin. Imagine being a poor man's Howard Eskin. I know. What a way to go.

Yeah, sorry. Sorry. You're fucked. Anyway. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. You're fine. Anyway. Yeah, because it just was a very frustrating game to watch because there were so many opportunities.

Like I said, every time we were rolling out, it was the interception or the turnover. And when we did run the ball, because we started running the ball again in the fourth quarter with Boston Scott. I'm buying a Boston Scott jersey, by the way, when I get paid. That fumble does not. Yeah.

Doesn't negate what he did. No. And this is not the first time Boston Scott has put the team on his back. He basically saved Doug Peterson's job for him for a year. Yeah. It was a couple years ago. I know I've mentioned it, but there's a meme that went around with Boston Scott as Baby Yoda.

Just like here to save everyone from themselves. Yeah. Our 5'6 short king. Because he is a king. He is a king he is a king he's great he has a really good sense of humor about the whole thing

as you should that fumble doesn't matter if we were winning if we didn't have three picks if we had three picks, right and Jalen Hurts looked like shit and even so fucking Jalen Rieger has two chances to win the game and just does not yeah uh yes

yes i was like do we miss nelson algalore at this point uh he's looking all right new england yeah thanks for that uh i i think it's also ironic that two of our best players have names. Their first name is a rival. You have Boston Scott and then Dallas Goddard. Yeah. Yeah. I like that, though. So we just need someone whose first name is Washington.

Yeah. Or New York. Oh, man. But yeah, I'm not upset about the fumble. I'm upset about it took us to the fourth quarter to realize, oh, maybe we should try to run the ball again. Right. No, exactly.

Like, that's what is. Okay, we're back on. I'm back on the fire. Sirianni train. I'm not quite there yet. Get on the train. Get on the train, Tom. It's not quite there yet. Get on the train. Get on the train, Tom. It's time to come on.

Get on the train, Tom. Does it have a cafe car? Yes, it does. Okay, I get one. Ironically, it's Boston Scott Cream Donuts. Oh, okay. Let's go. We have Harpoon on board

because the train came out of Boston. Yeah. Play your own brewery. Drink train came out of Boston. Yeah. Play your own brewery. Drink their beer. Are they? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, shit. Okay. I always get the Harpoon Dunkin' Donuts collab for winter. Yeah. I went to Harpoon and Trillium the same day. And I never asked you if you wanted Harpoon beer because it's like, all right, it's the same. You can get it here. Yeah. And everyone at Harpoon was really happy and super interested in talking to me.

I'm a home brewer, so I'll get really into it. Right, sure. And genuinely were like, weren't just humoring me, but genuinely were like, oh, yeah, let's talk beer. Like, oh, Beer in Philly. Beer in Philly is cool. And then I went to Trillium, and it were like, oh yeah, let's talk beer. Oh, beer in Philly. Beer in Philly is cool. And then I went to Trillium and it was like, smell my

farts, Tom. Yeah, like, oh, what's going on? I have an apron for no reason. I'm not in the kitchen. Oh, I hate those fucking people. It was like an art of manliness wax mustache.

I'm like, am I drinking the standard tap in 2008? You know what? The standard tap doesn't deserve such slander. It's fine. I like standard tap. I live five blocks from it. Yeah, no. Good burger. We're hyper local today. Yeah it's fine whatever like 120 people

listen to this podcast yeah yeah and and 20 canadians or something like that for some reason thanks thanks guys all right uh so we're not depending what part of canada you're from uh so hertz hertz has a tweaked uh what does he have, a tweaked ankle? Yeah. And I wonder if that played a part. Kelsey. Kelsey's hurt. But he said he's good to play.

Yeah, of course he said he's good to play. I will say, and this sounds really bad, but I remember I think a couple years ago when the Burns were making a playoff push and was unsure if Zach Ertz was gonna play yeah and he played despite the fact that prior to the game he had been pissing blood yeah he's like yeah i was peeing blood and now i'm here and i'm just like maybe we shouldn't have football anymore yeah i i admire the attitude. You have to. But it's not the Ardennes Forest in 44 or 45, whatever it was.

You don't need to be doing this. Yeah, yeah. And Kelsey is someone who I admire, and I'll probably get his jersey. He's probably my next jersey purchase for the, for the Eagles. But yeah, dude, don't. And he had a sick block too in the first quarter.

Yeah. It was like a couple of plays before he was taken out, but shit, dude. Yeah. I, uh, uh,

football's got that. We talked about that. I like to, I think two episodes back about like that warrior mindset in football that can be really damaging like yeah

yeah I admire it you know I appreciate balls but I don't want to see anyone like fuck up their I mean

I don't need you to watch you kill yourself for my miserable fucking team I mean we already literally are watching people kill themselves with football I no matter how good the helmets get, right.

You know, um, but fuck. Yeah. So we'll see. This was supposed to be a must win game. The rest of the games this year are supposed to be must win games. Uh,

I don't know. I don't know. I, do you think we still got a playoff shot? Yeah, because the NFC is so goddamn bad. I don't know how realistic our shot is, but yeah, sure. Why not, man? I'm ambivalent.

I mean, we have to win out. Yeah. But Washington is in right now at 5-6, and we're at 5- out. Yeah. But like Washington is in right now at five and six and we're at five and seven. Like it is totally realistic that the Eagles are in if, but like they have to win out. Like, yeah.

I mean, I can imagine if we don't, if my opinion will be no, if we lose the jets. Yeah. Which we, we, which we are capable of.

Yeah, and we play Washington and the Giants. It's weird how... Washington who looks hot right now somehow. And then the Cowboys, but we usually split with the Cowboys. And the Cowboys have been trending down too. Yeah, especially since the Thanksgiving game. Yeah. trending down to i mean yeah it's just the the thanksgiving game yeah i mean the cowboys have won some good games and they've lost the problem is that their losses are to the bucks like tail but they lost that that wild one to the broncos yeah and they lost against the raiders but the raiders are so goddamn weird i don't even include them yeah because the raiders will like beat us by 11 and then immediately turned around and lost

the giants by seven yeah which i don't all teams are weird it's a weird season this year and i think i see that every year but this feels like a really weird season. I can agree with that. Just as an aside, at Thanksgiving, I was watching the Raiders-Cowboys game with my brother-in-law, who for some reason is a Cowboys fan. I did tell him about this podcast, so if you're listening to this, well, you know. I'm not going to remember this. I don't know why you're a Cowboys fan, dude. I mean, I do know why, but I

don't... It's not a justifiable reason. You should be ashamed of yourself. Liam said that, too, so don't get mad at me. No, you should be ashamed of yourself. You really should. I'm embarrassed for you. Sorry. Temple

fired our coach. Yeah. and nine two and nine yeah go owls go owls baby do you ever do you ever remember the fight song or the fight fight fight for the cherry cherry and white yeah okay i'm starting to thinking of the alma mater the other day. I was like, I have no idea what the fuck that is. Listen, I graduated from Rutgers. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're talking about the Rutgers coach might come over or one of his. Rutgers didn't look too bad this year.

I mean, they didn't look great, but they didn't look bad. Yeah. Normally, they're absolutely putrid. So, yeah, they weren't, you know, they're not at the very bottom of the standings. Yeah. I feel like Rutgers is usually, like, okay. No, they're usually pretty bad. Are they usually pretty bad?

Okay. Yeah, they're pretty bad okay yeah they're pretty bad but they don't have like rutgers also has to play like michigan ohio state michigan state wisconsin and penn state all every year like they're not you know they had like both rutgers and temple have produced nfl talent it's just like yeah definitely he went 12 and 2020 with the Owls. Rod Carey did. Why don't they just let us do it? Yeah. Temple, bring back baseball as well.

Yeah, bring back. You know what? Get rid of baseball and hire Tom on as baseball coach. Yeah, definitely. I'm just laughing because it's like Alright boys, hit and run Or the potato trick You got that one I love the idea of you coaching Temple baseball with no idea how you

Got there Let's do this I don't know what's happening to me I play a game called Out of the park baseball Have you ever tried it? I've heard of it Well, I play a game called Out of the Park Baseball, which is like a spread. Have you ever tried? I've heard of it.

I've heard of it. Okay. It will destroy your life. I wasn't that big into it this year. I still love it. But it is a baseball spreadsheet. So I feel like I have to explain. There's like a news ticker in the game. I have to explain how a 30-something-year-old guy who didn't get past high school baseball was hired as the general manager of the Phillies.

So I'm like typing up some weird excuse in the news that no one else is going to read. That's fucking funny. I did create – you could create so many different you know i created a philly you know i restored north catholic you know i close it yeah absolutely on one owner behold the dawn of glory uh so uh hail alma mater on north catholic high still remember that one but uh yeah i couldn't do my high school alma mater i know it was navy blue and gold uh when i when i was doing my student teaching at uh well i won't say where but uh the undisclosed location yes undisclosed location in the delaware valley i made fun of their alma mater when they played it and played mine instead and i was like guys what do you think they're like well yours is better but why did you play it? It's like, because it's better.

Weren't you listening? Yeah, exactly. So I guess maybe better days ahead for the Temple Owls, seeing who... No, probably not, but we can hope. Probably not, but... See, this is... Okay, so I have a thing to explain about myself, which is

that the college team I most closely follow is the University of myself, which is that the college team I most closely follow is the University of Mississippi, which may be confusing to some of our listeners. And I'm going to explain myself, which is that I read an article that had the best tailgates. And when my last relationship was imploding, I went with my friend Shane and drove from Philly in a 95 Ranger that lost third gear somewhere in the Smoky Mountains all the way down to Oxford, Mississippi, where we were treated like kings. And ever since then, I have rooted for Ole Miss,

because here are the alma maters. My parents went to, my dad went to UMass, who are putrid at football, Connecticut, who's putrid at football. My mother went to American, who I don't even think has a football team. George Mason, who does notrid at football. My mother went to American, who I don't even think has a football team. George Mason, who does not have a football team. Boo. Miller. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it was before that. Before it became libertarian. Yeah, it was way before that. It was back when it was a bad law school. Okay. Which it still is today. Yeah. Ass law.

Millersville, and then Penn, and I refuse to give any allegiance to Penn. Millersville. You take Millersville and then Penn. And I refuse to give any allegiance to Penn. Millersville. You take Millersville and Rutgers. Those are my safety schools. Hey, Millersville's a good school, man. Yeah, I almost went to meteorology there. You have to live in Lancaster, but, you know, it's not so bad. Whoopie pies.

And the schools I went to are Drexel. No football team. Temple. Football team. Putrid. Rutgers, football team, Putrid. And so my rooting allegiance is for some reason the University of Mississippi. See, I actually can lay claim to Penn State football fandom. Yeah, because you went there. Yeah, I went there for two years and then did too many drugs and alcohol.

That's fine. And then finished out at Temple. Yeah. Although I did attend Drexel at one point, but not for undergrad. My mother is thinking of going back for her second doctorate at Temple. Wow. Wow. I'm like, if you take my graduate credits, if I wanted my Ed.D., I'm like a you take my graduate credits If I wanted my ed.d

I'm like a dissertation And like maybe 7 credits away But you could not Go do it Dr. Tom Dr. Tom's not happening We'll just get you a degree mill

You want to move on Is that what Drexel is anyway? Yes. Yes, it is. Oh, fuck Drexel. Okay. We're Drexel apologists too. We're just going to go hyper local today.

I don't care. Oh, yeah. Fuck Drexel. Fuck Drexel. I've met one Drexel apologist and I'm just like, you're wrong. You're fucking wrong. Burn that school to the ashes if there's anything you can learn from our podcasts or it's uh it our network of podcasts it's uh everything leaks and don't go to drexel university yeah uh and i did it online and uh

i got fucked over several times maybe if explain my situation, it would dox me. But no, I did finish my program there. Fuck them. Speaker to Temple, I guess basketball related. 3-3. 3-3, okay.

500. How's the conference look? When I did the notes, I did not look. Alright, that's what I'm here for. I didn't... So my basketball and football following...

Well, no, we haven't started conference play yet. But the problem is that in our conference are the 15th and 18th ranked teams. So we're sitting down at the bottom with the University of South Florida Bulls and the Tulane Green Wave. We're better than Tulane.

All right. Hey, UMass is 5-3. That's good. Good job, Dad, I guess. He's the coach, right? My dad yeah my dad coaches uh yeah that's screaming screaming at no one about the princeton offense just to the cat they open their lockers and there's all just copies of quotations from Jeremy Maltz. This is a very confusing basketball program.

They lose. They just get a struggle session. Now, why do you think this happened? No one leaves. No one leaves. Who here rents? Let's talk to your landlord. Marching to the off-campus apartment building.

My dad can't really march. He's old. But if you gave him a gun, he'd probably march. You know how they raise the banners in the rafters? They just want a mouth. Oh, all right. I'm sorry. No, that's pretty accurate, actually.

So basketball. Sixers did their best. I mean, I guess we're healthy now. Yeah. Play the Celtics tonight, Wednesday night. We're recording on a Wednesday. Yeah. I don't know, man.

I mean, I don't have actually much negative to say about the Sixers other than the win against the Magic looked absolutely fucking horrific. It looked all the way. I had to turn it off because I was just like, I got to be, I can't, I can't waste. You shouldn't be beating a 4-18 team by five. Yeah. Good teams win by, that should have been. You run up the score.

The official position of this podcast is when you play a bad team, you run up the score. Right. And. I mean, Embiid went like four of 16. The Sixers coughed up a 16-point lead. Like, you know, the Sixers got some help. Like, it's, you know, when health...

And, like, there's stuff to be happy with. Like, Tyrese Maxey's progressing really quickly. Oh, definitely. He's going to be something. Yeah, Tyrese Maxey is special. Yeah. Tyrese Maxey is special. Um, yeah. Like, uh, Seth Curry still looks really good.

Still looks like a good move, but like, Oh yeah. I'm looking at the box. I'm looking at the box and just like Joel and bead four of 16 Tyrese two of 12. Like, you know,

it's, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be beating bad teams by 40 not by five uh i agree especially the magic you know who just i mean fuck orlando in principle yeah no hard to agree uh but i i mean the the bench and the kids looked they handled they handled it all right i mean you're not

expecting to win those games any game you can pull out you know outgunned that much is is huge right you know they beat the nuggets they did beat the kings and they lost to like the warriors and they lost the two rules by one but like a overtime, and where Embiid had a 42-point game. Yeah, exactly. It's not that... Yeah. It's just that they have to stay. It's...

You don't... In prior years, you could sort of live with Embiid being hurt because you had Ben Simmons. Right. Now you can't live with that. You can't. No. And that's what I was saying in the notes. It's like, I feel like the reserves...

One, they got tapped out, energy-wise. Right, because they're playing 40 minutes a night every night. And that's what I was saying in the notes. It's like, I feel like the reserves, one, they got tapped out energy-wise. Right, because they're playing 40 minutes a night every night. That's not sustainable. And that the other teams kind of picked up on what these guys who, I mean, our boy, 4Khan, he is a great sixth man, seventh man. He's not your starter. And when you have Korkmaz starting and playing all these minutes, like, hey, his weaknesses get exposed.

Right. You know? No, that's exactly right. I mean, he's normally sitting on the bench for a reason. You know? Right. Like, there's not much you can do about that. Yeah. And, you know, they did do their level best and you know there's i don't think there's much to be ashamed of but like you

and then mb comes back and they look like shit so who knows i don't know i uh you're hearing of course the the the dumb asses the bleeding, you know, idiots. Oh, you're going to fire Doc Rivers now? It's like, no. Really? Are you fucking serious? No, you don't need to fire Doc Rivers now. No, you don't.

I'm sorry. It's just ridiculous. Like, let things gel. Right. But. Give it a minute. Speaking of our Turkish boy. Anis Kanter. Anis Kanter. Anis Kanter. Anis Kanter fruit. but give it a minute. Speaking of, speaking of our Turkish boy, and his cancer,

and his cancer, and his cancer, and his cancer, and his freedom now. Good for him, man. And so he changed his name, right?

And he became a US citizen. And I just want to say, he, he, Reddit NBA, you know, first off, never gone to Reddit to never go and read an NBA.

No, you go and read it. And we know that the nba is the most liberal the of the the four majors and all these liberal dads are posting about how great you know this is because he speaks out against uh the the asshole in charge of turkey erdogan eran, yeah. Who is an asshole? Don't get me wrong. No, not a good dude, as it turns out. But then he becomes a citizen. Who does he go on? He goes on Tucker Carlson.

Yep. Yeah. He ain't your friend. Liberal NBA dads, he's not your dude. He's not your guy. No. So probably shouldn't be calling him based or whatever 4chan meme you're stealing from 10 years ago. I do quite like the guy, and I'm legally obligated to like him because of the Boston Celtics. But, like, listen, I'm allowed my bad opinions, which are numerous, which are numerous.

Of course. I mean, look, you know, sometimes people are right about it. And, you know, Erdogan is an asshole. But, you know, some of his other takes are, you know, when you go to Tucker Carlson. Yeah, exactly. You sort of invalidate, I think, a lot. Yeah, definitely. um yeah yeah you exactly you sort of invalidate i think a lot yeah definitely um but you know furcon is still the uh the the special boy of this podcast we do love furcon um if he says shit about rojava i i'll be mad and and uh i'm hoping he doesn't know enough about Rojava to say anything.

Yeah, or he knows enough not to shut his mouth because he plays in the Turkish league in the offseason. True. And, you know, yeah. I'll leave it there for now. All right, let's move on to cover the Flyers. Ooh, man. Five or six games lost?

Six. No consistent goaltending. We're right back where we were last season. Carter Hart looks like he's pooping his pants every time. There's no defense of any significance. Well, he might poop his pants left if there was defense. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

It fucking sucks and just as we were talking about them as the bright spot yeah i'll read you their their last few games lost to the devils five to two lost to the hurricane six to three lost to the panthers two to one lost to the lightning four to nothing lost to the bruins five to two lost to the Panthers, 2-1. Lost to the Lightning, 4-0. Lost to the Bruins, 5-2. Lost to the Lightning, 4-3. Oh, that's seven losses in a row. One, two, three, four, five, six. No, six. So, six.

And we were supposed to play the Islanders last night, which we would have probably lost. Well, we play tonight. We play the Rags, who are good, unfortunately. Yeah. I We'll play the, the rags who are good. Unfortunately. Yeah. Uh, I think I'll be watching the Sixers.

Yeah, me too. Uh, but they, yeah, there was the Islanders have a Rona issue or something like that. Yep. Uh,

that sucks. Uh, I mean, but it's a long time team. What do you expect? Yeah. It's Long Island. I mean,

yeah. One, one, one expects it no it's long island is a bad place for bad people and i say this is a good jewish boy yeah i i mean the work it gets worse the further out you get closer to new york the better it is yeah it's it's it's i mean because technically brooklyn is on is on long island. So is Queens. All that stuff. But yeah, no. Never mind.

So the Flyers suck because Carter Hart and because no defense or any other takes there. Again, my hockey knowledge still, I'm still bits and pieces picking it back up. I don't really have a deep analysis. There's no defense and

the Flyers just can't fucking score. That's part of it. The Flyers can't fucking score. Yeah, that'll do it. You can't score points. You can't win the game. No, it sucks.

Does it say anything about what sport I like by the page and a half long next segment? I wanted this to be our sort of centerpiece, so take it away, man. Yeah, so the Phillies, right? Baseball, more like baseball. God. So it is the baseball offseason, and it has been for quite some time, a couple weeks now. And we are in the phase of the offseason that's usually replete with signings, trades, and transactions.

As the teams get ready for their winter meetings and for the Rule 5 draft, which I'm not going to explain here because it's too much. Excuse me. And so a lot has happened about the Phillies. It was kind of slow. Last couple times we podded, there really wasn't much to talk about about the Phillies.

But now there's been a bit more. And the first thing is something I'm genuinely pissed about because so far I haven't been too upset about our general or president of baseball operations, Dave Dabrowski's decision making.

But the Phillies let go Hector Neris. And let him go to the Astros. To the Trash-Tros. He got $17 million for two years. The last year he made $5 million with the Phillies. So it shakes out to that much more. But the thing is, he is the Phillies all-time relief pitcher strikeout leader with 520 exactly strikeouts in the last, I think, six, seven years with the team.

And I really wonder what happens for those negotiations to break down for us not to say, hey, this guy will give you your money. Right. Yeah. He's not closing for the Astros. They already have their closer. He's going to be a setup guy, just as he was last year with the Phillies. We figured out, hey, maybe this guy's not a great closer. But he's a setup guy, which those of you who aren't baseball fans

or super baseball nerds, that's like the pitcher who comes in, you know, seventh, eighth inning and gets things ready for the closer. He has been unfairly maligned by guys calling into sports radio, by ignorant people on the internet for a while. The guy is a good pitcher. He throws strikes. He's got a nasty splitter. He's not a closer. But. He's not a closer.

But he was for years the closer because he was like the only good pitcher in the bullpen. And he's also, and this is again what we value, he was also willing to get in fights. Which is awesome. Which is awesome. And we do like that. And so, you know, you can't see me, but I'm saluting, you know, Hector Neris. I guess I wish you luck in your career with the Trash Rose. Go get paid, my man.

But you should have been in the pinstripes next year. You should have been like a career guy. It's fucked up. It's stupid. No, and it's – Well, exactly. It's just like... What did you say it was?

The strikeout leader? He's the all-time bullpen strikeout leader. Yeah. Yeah. The bullpen needs all the help it can get anyway. Why let him walk? And we'll get to what happened literally just before we started the podcast. But you get him and he's a solid dude just to have in your bullpen.

We don't know what happened in these negotiations or anything like that or if the Phillies just low-balled him by a couple million. It's just – a team that needs a bullpen, he seems like a guy you keep around. Right. And our president of baseball operations, Dave Dombrowski, is justifiably regarded as a very good executive and knows his shit. So who knows what they knew that we didn't know. Right.

By all accounts, he was a good clubhouse guy. He was a big goofball. He was always cracking jokes. He was a good guy to have around with younger guys. You might not want a World Series with him, but at the same time. Right. If he's your right-handed setup guy, you could do far worse. I looked at his stats last season.

He was pretty decent. He's been pretty decent. He's been pretty decent throughout. I think Philly has been spoiled by – and I don't know how big a baseball guy or if you were super into the 2007, 2008, 2009, like the high years of the Phillies. We were spoiled by Brad Lidge who had a perfect season in terms of saves in 2008. And I think since then, we have judged all relievers by that metric.

And that metric requires also a lot of luck. It's not just skill. Also, you have to be lucky to have every save that you had an opportunity for, you actually made the save. You can't judge everybody by Bradad lidge it's not a fair comparison right and and so so i think that's part of why he's been maligned also he's not white uh which is i think part of it too but not as not not not maybe not a deliberately but i think it's

part of an unconscious bias thing sure Sure. But as we're, as we are potting, when you listen to this, the collective bargaining agreement deadline will have passed, which was December 1st, 1159. And this comes on the tails of the fact that baseball had two different balls.

Did you, did you know that? Yes. Yeah. Two different balls, one you know that? Yes. Yeah, two different balls. One live and one dead. And it comes out like people were calling this out like, oh, in the 9-11 games or the Field of Dreams game, the ball was really lively, you know?

Real interesting. And this is a going on controversy about baseball. For those who don't know about baseball enough, you know, the composition of the baseball, how tightly it's wound. You have a cork core, then you have yarn around it, and you have a leather outer. I'm probably missing something about it. And the composition of that and all these weird physics stats,

like, you know, maybe we could get Justin to explain this for us, coefficient of elasticity and all that. You either make the ball more rigid or you make it less rigid, I guess. And either goes further or it doesn't.

And baseball keeps fucking with the ball. Meanwhile, they talk out both sides of the mouth saying that they're not. So there's that, right? Just came out yesterday. And they also – I don't know. It feels like baseball doesn't really – the commissioner's office doesn't really give a shit. No, they don't care about the sport.

I mean I think that's obvious. Yeah. And those who don't know, the commissioner of baseball up until – I think we talked about this like two episodes ago. Until the 80s, the commissioner's office is actually somewhat independent. And then the one time that the players – or the commissioner's office kind of signed it with the players in a strike, the owners cooed it, and that's how you get Bud Seelig.

And now you have fucking Rob Manfred who is a stooge for the owners and what are these days? We do a bonus episode. We'll do one on the MLB owners. How they are the worst out of every sport. They are.

And that's including Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder which is hard to beat. But they're the worst earners of any sport. So we were actually looking at a very good possibility that when you're listening to this, that there's a lockout. And over things like a 14-team playoff, which is stupid. That was a proposal. 14 teams from each league-team playoff, which is stupid. That was a proposal. 14 teams from each league

would make the playoff. And you would have the division winners playing the wildcard winners in a three-game wildcard series or some shit like that.

What? It's just, you know, I don't want to speculate too much. It's just ridiculous. But I think one of the things we have to wonder about is, and this is going to go into our next segment, is the National League going to have a designated hitter next year? Right. And those who don't know, in the National –

Major League Baseball used to be two separate leagues, and they finally joined many years ago. But the National League is the league the Phillies played, and the National League pitchers don't – pitchers hit. In the American League, which is like the Yankees, Red Sox, the pitchers don't hit. They have a designated hitter. It's like college baseball.

This is not controversial. I don't think we have the time to get into it, but if we have a DH next year, that changes who we sign. Some players are absolute liabilities in the field, but as a hitter, are completely adequate. If you have a guy who

only has to pitch but doesn't have to field um you know on the play i think the players want it because it will extend careers and i don't think most pitchers don't have to hit and you could still have pitchers hit if you want them to you just pinch hit them for somebody or something like that. But I don't know. But we were talking about Dave Dombrowski. I think it was on Twitter. Someone wanted to know what our takes were on Mr. Dombrowski. Yes. Now, he's the president of baseball operations.

The Phillies, that's basically the GM. We have a GM, but they don't have as much power as Dabrowski does. He won two rings. One of them with your Red Sox. Yes, he did. In 2018. The Marlins? Yeah, the Marlins in 97. I think his biggest

claim to fame is the Tigers rebuild. He was with them for a while and he got them to the World Series in 06 and 12. He's an interesting guy. He's with him for a while and he got him to the World Series in 2006 and 2012. He's an interesting guy. He's an old school guy. Old school in baseball means traditional statistics

and the eye test. How does a player look? Versus modern baseball, new school baseball, which is very analytic driven, advanced stats. You could do worse than Dave Dabrowski, but what is confusing is there's not much

going on. He has a reputation as a guy who will blow up your team to win now. But he's not doing that. But he's not doing that, but you can't do that with the Phillies. We don't have a good farm system. Right. He built a pretty good one with the Tigers, believe it or not.

Yeah. Yeah. The Tigers actually have a decent one right now. But, yeah, we'll see. So, basically, with the uncertainty about the CVA, we're not sure if Dombrowski is going to be a win now guy or win later guy. I think he's waiting to see the lockout. Now, when I wrote that, we didn't have the free agent signing that we just saw,

but it's not a big one. But there's a lot, and this is kind of inside baseball literally, and it's maybe not super exciting, but, you know, he's – baseball teams, out of every sport, baseball has the biggest organization because you have five or six teams that are – Within one team, essentially. Within one team, yeah. So, yeah, you triple, double A, high A, low A, usually two.

The Phillies only fielded one this year in the Rookie League. And then I think we have two in the Dominican League, which is kind of like slavery. We'll do a bonus episode on that too. Don't worry. Yeah, we'll get there. So most of the decisions have been like Farm League development stuff. So Dave Dabrowski, he's kind of regarded as this expert dude.

We'll see. This is his first full offseason, and it's a weird offseason because we don't know if there's a lockout going to happen. We don't know any of this stuff. But some stuff has happened. We're claiming pitchers off of waivers, which is boring depth stuff. We made a trade with the Yankees and the Astros for catchers, but minor league catchers. Because Philadelphia's got catchers. We have JT Ormuto is one of the better catchers and the Astros for catchers, but minor league catchers.

Because Philadelphia's got catchers. We have JT Ormuto, who's one of the better catchers in the sport. And he's locked up for a couple of years. We got rid of our backup catcher, Andrew Knapp, who if any of you talk shit about him, I will fight you. And he was a really good catcher.

He was a pitcher's catcher. He was not an offensive guy. We got rid of Roman Quinn, RIP. He was literally one of the fastest players, not only in the league, but to ever play the sport. I'm sure he's going to get picked up by somebody. Maybe they'll turn him into a guy who doesn't break his ankle every year. And, you know, a few transactions where – baseball is weird because you're like – the transactions, it's so Byzantine. Right.

But, you know, we have. So I was planning on talking about some of the transactions that we were going to have. But we have breaking news. Go on. So we have, we just signed our first free agent of the offseason. Corey Newble. I believe I pronounced that right. A 30-year-old ready reliever who was last on Milwaukee Brewers to a one-year deal.

All right. He only played 27 games in 2021 due to injury. Was he good? He was okay. Okay. Like 2018, he had like an outstanding season. Gotcha. Then he had Tommy John surgery.

Oh. And then we had the short 2020 season. Right. And then he was out for 92 games with a latch strain last year. Oh. Yeah. So... Who knows?

Yeah. I don't know. And then we'll find out. So the CBA expires as we're posting, as we're potting at midnight. There's two other ones. There's talking about Kyle Shorver. He used to play for the Nationals. Played for the Red Sox.

He was traded to the Red Sox. Pretty good stats. He had something called a 928 928 ops which is a composite statistic that includes home base percentage plus your slugging uh all you need to know is 928 is really fucking good and there's talks with him just talks with this guy nick castellanos which you might know from that meme i don't know if you're familiar with that meme, Liam. No. The Cincinnati Reds had an announcer who – Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Say no more. Yeah, yeah. That guy. I'm deeply sorry to apologize. Castellanos hits one to deep left field. So then I'll make it a 4-0 ball game. Yeah. But the thing is that Dombrowski drafted him with the Tigers.

So we'll see, but he's looking for an eight-year deal. Maybe we'll trade with the Rays. Maybe we'll get Kiermaier, who's an outfielder. I don't know. I don't know all this stuff. But I can tell you this. Fucking Mets. You don't got to like the Mets.

No. Fuck the Mets. Fuck the Mets. The Mets look really good. They signed Scherzer. They signed Starling Marte. I'm missing somebody else they signed. And the Phillies are going to be fucked if we don't get another outfielder,

if we don't get another reliever, if we don't get another outfielder, if we don't get another reliever, if we don't do anything. All right, we got one okay reliever who's on a one-year deal, which tells you how much they think about him. Maybe. The guy is not a bad pitcher. I mean, he's better than both of us.

Yeah, that's not hard. I was falling asleep last night. I was thinking about Sean Doolittle. I'm not familiar with him. I really like him, actually. Yeah. I don't want to get too... But I have a family connection with him.

He is the only openly socialist baseball player. Yeah. He's a member of the DSA, too. And so it's like he's actually active. So he's a good dude. I remember a few years ago when I think Last Jedi came out, or may have been the first one in the new trilogy of Star Wars. He is a huge Star Wars geek and made his wife

dress up. And she posted a series of selfies of them dressed up and she looks so miserable. And he's visibly having the time of his life. Yeah. He's a good dude. And he's from Medford, New Jersey. So, good dude.

He made it out of the Pine Barrens. And anyway, so I had this like fever not fever dream but uh i was lying about last night i was just thinking like imagine if we had like a pickup baseball game like just of like lefties in philly yeah like whoever's in whatever organizations and then you just invited Sean Doolittle. Come on, guy. He doesn't even have to throw a fastball. You just would be like, all right, no

pro baseball players. I don't know. It was a weird thought. I was falling asleep last night. He's a decent pitcher. I wimped out. I was trying to talk to him. He was in the Reds bullpen last year. I wentimped out I was trying to talk to him And he was in the Reds bullpen last year

And I went there and I was Going to be like, yo Sean And I wimped out He plays for the Mariners now So we should get him on the podcast Yes, if you know Sean Lillard Please let him know Also, he knows my family.

Time to abuse all the connections we have. Yes. If you know Sean Doolittle, please. I guess that ends the baseball thoughts. We're going to have to get out some games this year and cry. If there is a games this year and cry. We'll see how it goes. If there is a season this year. Who knows?

That's the fun. Because usually by this time of year, if the Eagles suck, I'm like, oh, at least pitchers catch a report in February. Who knows? Who knows? That's the fun. It's the fun, Tom. Absolutely.

All right. What else we got on the docket? Well, we got the dumb take Oh yeah, trading for Russell Wilson Yeah, Joe Banner Why not, man? He's a two-peat Second time we've mentioned him for dumb take

So he was on WIP Saying that we should trade for Russell Wilson At the end of the year Sure, why the hell not? How old is he, 33? Yeah, he's getting there. Having a real great year this year. We should definitely trade for him.

That'd be smart. Give away maybe two first rounders. Yeah, fuck it. Don't use that. If you really don't like Hurts, don't use that first round to draft a quarterback. That's just... Look at Joe Banner. He's another weird libertarian. Whatever the fuck you call him.

This time next week, we'll have a mailbag. Maybe you could be dumb take of the week. Good luck to you. Yeah. Uh, uh, do you have anything else regarding the, uh, I do not.

Okay. Well, I, I got a question for you there. Uh, Liam. Yeah. Uh,

what do you call 144 father Judge graduates in the same room? Is it gross? Yeah, it's gross stupidity. Ooh. That's good. I like that. We have to insert the rim shot there. We need a soundboard. We do need a soundboard.

All right. Do you want to do your plugs? Yeah. I mean, I have two plugs. One is Typic Pitches Podcast, which you should listen to if you're a lefty and like baseball. But they have a CBA, a Collective Bargain Agreement Crash Course. Go listen to that. Yeah, definitely go listen to that.

They are a baseball podcast from a labor perspective. They're both lefties. Good guys. Definitely listen to that. They are a baseball podcast from a labor perspective. They're both lefties. Good guys. Definitely listen to that. If you like baseball and you want to know what the fuck is going on, listen to that. And then we might have to become a Philadelphia Union podcast. No! Well, think about it.

Ultimate bandwagoning. Yeah, that's true true we can do that but we can't declare ourselves a union podcast because that probably will mean they'll lose we actually hate the union yeah we hate the union yeah go uh nope i'm not saying it what's there's a team is it salt lake they're like real so Salt Lake. Yeah, Royal Salt Lake somehow. What fucking king do you serve in Salt Lake? I mean, I can imagine. Bring him young.

But I get the FC thing. You call yourself FC. Cool. But you're not Real Madrid. Right. They have a monarchy. They have a monarchy. They have a monarchy. They still do for some fucking reason.

The one that really does it was Sporting Kansas City. Sporting? What? Sporting Kansas City. Is that a reference to an existing team? Yeah, I think so. I just don't know who. I'm just waiting

for somewhere in the Pacific Northwest some Nazis will make a team called SS Portland or whatever. Oh, yeah. Portland Timbers are about to change their name as we speak. Well, they're actually Antifa, so they're cool.

That's true. Never mind. You could have the Antifa team, but then you have SS Lazio. By the way, look up their logo. You could tell they're the fastest team in Italy for a reason. It's Whistle and Eagle. So anyway, we didn't even say why I'm shouting out the Philadelphia Union. They made it to the conference finals for Major League Soccer.

Cool. Buy something? Go Union? for major league soccer uh cool uh buy buy something go union go uh what do they doop yeah um i don't know what else they i mean they're right next to what used to be a tire fire yeah uh yeah so uh go uh go super fun sites can't spell Superfund without Superfund. You probably used that on another podcast, haven't you? Yeah, I have. Do you have any plugs? Lions led by donkeys. And well, there's your problem.

Yes, let's do those two. Watch this space. We're starting a Patreon. If you want to give us money, our first bonus episode will be out next week. It is Joe Kasabian, my co-host from Lions Led by Donkeys, talking about the pitiful history

of the Detroit Lions. Poor guy. Poor guy. Yeah, definitely listen to WTYP because that Titanic episode... Thank you....was very... That I had to guy. Yeah, definitely listen to WTYP because that Titanic episode Thank you. was very... That I had to leave.

Yeah, which was very good. Thank you. Although someone could have pronounced nautical terms better. But anyway... Shut up. Shut the hell up. All right, goodbye, everyone.

Boast it! Boast it! Not Boatswain! Got anything else? No. Bye, everyone. Bye.