Ten Thousand Losses - Liberty County ft. Alex & Bobby from Tipping Pitches

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

Twitter's no. 1 & 2 NFL geeks Alex Bazeley and Bobby Wagner from the Tipping Pitches podcast to analyze the James Bradberry holding call in four dimensions. We talk Super Bowl, about [redacting] baseball owners, complain about Wawa, and answer a few sad listener voicemails. Follow Tipping Pitches on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tipping_pitches Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod  Leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses   

He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy it is to come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge an ice ball. We, the Dallas Cowboys, had a sense of John Cooney. And we're live. Well, I'm not sad or anything. No.

There's nothing to be sad about because nothing happened. I got tattoos. You did? I I got tattoos. You did. I did get tattoos. Are they related to anything we should be sad about? No. No, I did the Super Bowls next week. I got on Valentine's Day on my forearms, hit them low, hit them high,

and then watch our Eagles lose on one of the worst holding penalties i've ever seen in my life that's two of the last three superbowls decided by a bullshit crucial drive penalty uh can i yeah i'm just gonna you you can bleep this if you want the the ref should be taken out uh jonathan gannon they did you see that they basically left gannon on the tarmac that he was scheduled to fly home on the plane and Howie told him at the last possible second like oh no you're interviewing with the Cardinals like stay here

he basically got left on the tarmac like poor he got Lane Kiffin yeah I defense didn't show up Hassan Reddick can suck my butt the turf the turf was really bad. The turf was absolutely fucking abysmal. Andy Reid shows 20 plus years of coaching experience over the two years.

Turns out he's really good at coaching. Yeah. But yeah, that's okay because none of that happened in his next week. Yeah, exactly. We are proud to announce our first sponsorship. Tom, you want to talk about that, Tom? Yeah, we have our first sponsorship. It turns out DraftFox is real.

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beholden to anyone, but I will reveal that, uh, Morgan and Morgan, the law firm, did I tell you this? No reached out to us and was like, Oh, we we'd like love to do a sponsorship opportunity here's our terms and conditions and they like wanted to review the entire episode before it went out i was like there is no amount of money you can fucking pay me for that to be worth it like it's also you're not fucking from here you're from florida i could fuck out of here go birds yeah you give your i-95 billboard money yeah when they run the morgan and morgan ads on tv they literally put at the bottom this is not a law firm this is a referral service yeah yeah yeah because it's like a like he like john morgan is not licensed he's not in

pennsylvania he can't practice law here we have as far as i'm aware just very horrible reciprocity uh with like every other state basically yeah oh so uh you might hear some other voices this you might be listening to the podcast this is a podcast hello welcome to another episode 10 000 losses the only philadelphia sport podcast that exists i'm your host tom payne my pronouns are him hey him uh am i wow are you okay no i'm sick and with me is my co-host yay liam hi i'm liam anderson my pronouns are also he him and i'm just trying to limp tom to the next hour and i am very i am very nasally today so uh but we also you sound no different to me okay that's good i feel i feel it though and we have two expert nfl geeks just nerds about the x's and o's had to stop watching the all 22 just to come on this pod you can tell that the

jet sweep from from the the quarterback draw it's it's uh alex and bobby from tipping pitches what's up thanks for having us oh oh why don't why don't you say your name with your voice So that those who are not familiar Can tell your identical voices apart And the tipping pitch is Slack For our patrons A lot of people saying that we sound the same Alex, this is Bobby

I'm Bobby Wait, what? Amazing This is Bobby. My pronouns are he, him. I'm the one from Philadelphia. Alex is the one from the Bay Area. Yes, I am Alex.

He, him pronouns. And I had trouble naming three players in the Super Bowl when Bobby asked me on the podcast last week. By trouble, you mean you couldn't do it. You named the two quarterbacks. You did too. I was driving to work when i heard that and i was literally like naming because like i got like 40 man i'm what a shitty eagles fan am i only know 40 i i could name half of the phillies top nine

the phillies the phillies i can name half of the phillies you could probably i don't think so did i did i tell you the thing did i tell you the thing i don't know i didn't know it's the marvel podcast but yeah there's a thing uh so i was talking to corinne and i i had a secret to tell her which when the when the phillies won the pennant she turned to me literally with tears in her eyes i was like and you believed in them all year this is special for you and i was like did you listen to a single fucking episode we didn't believe in them until like three days ago i was like we just watched baseball because it was on like you she's like you watched every game i'm like not because i wanted to it was just on i was like yeah philly's brewers signed my ass up like you guys you guys left the brewers game

early to go to a dinner wow real philly's fans with your family wow yeah yeah that was i looked up on my mlb uh was it the le bar park ballpark app yeah i went to yeah i went to nine games they lost seven of them yeah go phil's baby well for a while there i was like 10 games under 500 for the mets and they won 101 games like that's yeah extremely statistically unlikely i i don't watch bruins hockey anymore because uh despite being a pretty fanatical bruins fan every time i turn on the television the bruins are on they find a way to lose so i am convinced that i am their sort of albatross uh and like i refuse to watch them basically until the playoffs that's all of them we all have crosses to bear this is yeah yeah yeah uh exactly that's yeah that's that same thing with me and the flyers you know um

that implies the flyers are gonna to make the playoffs, Tom. Yeah, yeah. That's a joke. All right. Yeah, I don't think we have any announcements. Voicemail, call in at 267-371-7218. Give us your name and pronouns. Patreon.com slash $10,000.

$10,000 losses. $10,000. That's what you have to pay. Sign us up. I was thinking of the word dollars That's a Freudian slew That's money on your mind bro It's grinds it It's grinds it right here

What do we got like $190 a month Which still is not bad thank you for the money We thought it was going to be zero yeah we were we will pay off tom student loads on a long enough timeline yeah i think i i will this country won't exist anymore but but somehow fannie mae will still exist after like like as a bunch of regulators actions right like the there will be like the fannie mae that let lives through it there'll be like tesla faction you know how like in in um in uh mad max

fury road there's like the gasoline faction and the bullet faction like that's how it's gonna go for us it's gonna be like fannie mae is one of them yeah fucking pico is another one you know verizon and tesla we're just gonna have to choose which one we want to live in i mean i gotta say i'm going with pico because at least it's like like like state-owned i guess no it's private but it's a private one oh it's an excellent company yeah corinne works there oh i'm an idiot no you're not an idiot but uh you are delirious. Clearly. Yeah. I've slept 36 the last 48 hours with like a rant. It was so weird. I thought I had COVID and it was like a sharp time.

That would have been the fourth time. Yeah. And it wasn't. I tested negative, but sore throat. And then like, you know, like my joints hurt, but joints that I wasn't even aware of. Like, you know how like your skull has those seams? Yeah, those hurt. That's a new one.

How did that hurt? Because I guess my bones were swollen or something like that. Fucking hate when that happens. You want to hear something gross? Sure. Your belly button is just your old mouth. Yeah. Not even a reaction

God damn it I was processing That was a lot to take in The mitochondria is actually not an organelle But is instead an endosymbiotic bacteria That has just ended up becoming part of Our Bodies

I thought you were an English teacher Yeah that's what i was gonna say science you know what are you doing oh real real quick before we get into talking about uh baseball and the phillies uh well we're still talking about the mitochondria imminent rampage across the national league 110 win team you heard it here first uh absolute fucking slaughterhouse uh the braves will be buried underneath cobfield i can uh i don't even care uh but uh yeah support the temple grad student strike oh yeah fuck temple university uh absolutely ridiculous yeah fuck the school that i attended before i left because the transfer requirements changed

uh fucking embarrassing uh we will try to put out something in the show notes about before I left because the transfer requirements changed. Fucking embarrassing. We will try to put out something in the show notes about where you can donate. Support striking workers. Dump the bosses off your backs. Don't go owls for once. No motherfucker.

More like ass filter hole. Yeah, got him. I was going to do an Anderson Hall joke, but I didn't want to insult my co-host. They also renamed it. I feel like you can still say go owls, because I feel like the grad students are more owls than faculty and management. Yeah. Or maybe I'm supporting Florida Atlantic this week.

Who knows? Sure. why not? But yeah, fuck Temple and fuck the... Also, but the only union we don't support is the Temple Police Office Union. The Temple Cops Union who called my mother a whore? Yes.

And who had 20 accounts that were going after both of us. Yes. Yeah, it's the same guy. But yeah. He was fast. I will give him the same guy. But, yeah. He was fast. I will give him that. He was fast, yeah. He did have a lot of fake accounts. He's like, where are you, Kenzo? I'll drive by tomorrow. I was like, hell yeah. Come on. Go by my house

at Kensington, cuz. Anyway. Tom's mom shot an intruder. Yeah. Deserved it. Alright, so I guess, yeah, the birds lost. Like I said, we have our real, you know, we got our Ray Dinger juniors here to talk about the loss. Alex is more of a Mel Kiper,

so he can really get you into the draft mood. Yeah. Talk about Howie Roseman and why he's a real genius and how the salary cap doesn't exist they can't keep getting away with this uh the channel of a lightning approach yes he renegotiates every contract every year and it's like yeah we'll pay you in 10 years and they're like okay that works out all right see you howie cool cool i get to be part of the only nfl franchise that's owned by a guy who said i'm with her so um i'm with you jeff lurie i yeah if we're gonna ride the lurie train to the bottom but this

is no like the like the bar for ownership it's like it's like the phillies are like well like the flyers are owned by evil comcast they got the the the sixers are owned by Evil Comcast. The Sixers are owned by insane Josh Harris, crypto, venture capital guy. And then you've got cigar baby John Middleton. And then you've got, I like to do movies and Autism Foundation, Jeff Flory. So, I guess. Real mixed bag. Yeah, I mean, that's the trifecta right there, the quartet.

Alex, what's your take on John Middleton these days? You know, I mean, you might remember, Bobby, that I did make a fan cam of him earlier this offseason. I don't remember this. You're not plugged in. Sorry. You know, because he's got that back right and he's not afraid to use it right i suppose we'll we'll talk more about this i would i would imagine but uh but do you think that the first step to creating a just society is selling your family's cigarette company for four billion dollars

right well it's kind of rocking a hard place, right? Like, do you want him to sell it and profit off it or do you want him to hold on to it and profit from it? Well, it depends. Do you buy something good with that money, like a baseball team? Right. Applying to Phillies are good. Yeah.

Oh, they went to the World Series. That's pretty good. They did. Sorry, I'm still in Phillies suck mode. Like, I'm still, like, again, I watched a lot of very mediocre Philly's baseball last year. I know five minutes ago you were calling 110 wins. 110 wins, 112 wins, 115 wins. Fuck it.

Absolutely. It's the duality of man. We are going to buy Steve Cohen and shove him into the locker where he belongs. Yeah. Well, Bobby was saying on the last two pitches about how he doesn't get how Philly has this underdog. Like, oh, it's like we don't have enough success in Philly. No, it's not that I don't get it.

I just don't. Like, I understand why Philadelphians have an underdog mentality. That I understand. But how Philly, like, otherwise reasonable sports fans who can look at other fan bases success and judge it reasonably look at philadelphia team success and are like yeah we're gonna blow it we're gonna lose everything we've never had any success this is nothing but despair i'm like well two of your two of your major teams have won pretty recently like since i've been sentient you know

since i could read which is more than i can say for any teams that for for basically the mets you know yeah most most most uh phillies fans can't read so you got a real big leg up on them oh yeah i would know i have to teach them but uh jesus christ Christ. Look how we spell the name Phillies. I mean, look, it's P-H. What is this bullshit? No. I don't know where to go with that. It is weird. Philadelphia isn't as bad

as Philadelphia and say it is. It's kind of like a saying. The Negadelfian. I don't know what it is. There is this like attitude that like everything like we talked about this this one on your the two-fidget slag was like you get the you know we don't get like the respect i guess that we're deserved like this is true but but on the other hand like we do have it pretty good like compared to

i don't know ari Arizona or something like that. Not a real fan base. Right. Right. But there are some fan bases, some cities who haven't had any real success anytime recently in any of the major sports. So I get that. It's weird, though, because if somebody told me they were a Chicago Bulls fan,

like Kate Wagner, even though the last Jordan championship was was 25 years ago i'd be like yeah but you had jordan like kate is my age so she was like five when the bulls were were a dynasty and i just would be like yeah but you had jordan so shut the fuck up i do i totally fuck it totally fucking like irrelevant player for the last 25 years. Not irrelevant, obviously, but more or less irrelevant for the franchise for the last quarter of a century. More of a shoe executive than a player for the last 20 years. I want to see Bobby walking up to a 16-year-old Phillies fan and be like, You had Ryan Howard. You just weren't old enough to appreciate him. Sit the fuck down.

I would do that. I know you would. That's basically what I did for the first 18 years of my life. I don't care that you were three. Then I'd push him in a locker and i'd say tom's gonna teach you how to read motherfucker no but i even do this with my own like within mets fandom like i make delineations between how old you are as a mets fan like when my mom complains about the mets fucking stuff up i'm like this is bullshit You've seen them win two World Series. Like, you don't get to complain the way I get to complain.

It's all about, like, what have you gotten in your lifetime? And for most Phillies fans, for most Philly fans, they've gotten the Eagles and the Phillies, which are, like, those are the one and two for the most important teams in the city. Obviously, Philly is a hockey town as well, too. And the Flyers have had much more mixed bag results since the 21st century started but but yes when's the last time the flyers was say the cup was like in the 80s or something yeah uh 70s 70s yeah yeah 75 76 yeah flyers have been putrid for 40 years i feel like complaining about your sports team is mostly why you sign up to be a fan right it's like so that you can

displace all the emotions that you're collecting in the rest of your life and pour it into it right so i'm a little bit like man even if you won three years ago like you've got to complain about something right you're just gonna be happy-go-lucky the whole fucking time no no no this is this is yankees fan shit dude do they get to complain because they haven't won since 2009? That's like saying, yeah, but the Republicans freed the slaves. The GOP had this one fucking accomplishment, and they've been sitting on those laurels since, what was it, the Compromise of 88 or whatever?

Real history hours in here. Well, I am also certified by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to teach social studies. So I can help you guys out with that too. Right. Commonwealth. Don't call it a state. Commonwealth. Yeah.

It means nothing. If you get it, if you get to go to the mountaintop one time, let alone two times, let alone once with each of your teams, you don't get the complaint. You don't. I think that that, that is unique to you as a Mets fan, because your team is so got has like has fucked up in such hilarious ways. Yes. Like to me. Yeah. So it's really funny to me because my dad is from Boston and so grew up a Sox fan. So watched all the heartbreak until he was 50,

uh, 58 when the, when the Sox won it and he'll still like, have like, Oh yeah, Sox are going to collapse this year. It's not like they've won five titles in like 18 years. Like it's fine.

I, I will say the weird thing for me is that I grew up at least like nominally a, a Boston fan in that my dad took me to see the Celtics play and the Sox play in Camden yards. And whenever the Patriots played the Ravens and the Broads played the caps, but I didn't really, because I wasn't in like the ecosystem. And now that I am marrying a, a true Philly sports fan,

it's amazing. The, a true Philly sports fan, uh, it's amazing. The, the, the mentality of like, uh, I, I think what it is is people like, Oh,

you see the, like, yeah, it's like, yeah, the Eagles were there five years ago, but they weren't for like 50 years. Right.

And you had the heartbreak of like the Oh two to Oh nine run with like the Donovan McNabb Superbowl. And then the Vic team, not really doing anything. And just all nfc championships and all these what could have been where like the last time the mets made the world series was what it was 15 16 yeah 2015 right and then you you met stood up right so i i i feel like the mets where it is for me is like the heartbreak comes from coming close. And I think for a lot of fans, like they don't even come close.

So it's sort of like, yeah, yeah. Fuck you. Like Philly made it five years ago. It's like, yeah, but you weren't there for the other 48 years. I think for like being a Phillies fan, like I think we I mean, the name of this this podcast it needs to be updated to 11 000 losses because we have more than we have we have reached that number but it's like yeah the team was the shit team until the 70s they had a run um decent in the 80s but i mean you went in the 80s the i mean there were some decent years there but then like for for for me being uh born in the late 80s the i mean there were some decent years there but then like for for me being uh

born in the late 80s you have the 93 team and then shit until the the golden years of you know howard utley rollins praise be upon them and going going to the World Series two years in a row and then just slowly collapsing after that. Absolutely eating shit for the next decade. With the Achilles tendon just sending us into the gutter up until literally, I still don't believe that we went to the World Series. Yeah. How the fuck did that happen?

There doesn't make any fucking sense that this team made it to the World Series. Yeah. How the fuck did that happen? It doesn't make any fucking sense that this team made it to the World Series. Middleton had to have, there's some deep, something happened to Bohemian Grove. Like, they had to make some arrangements. I don't know how the fuck that happened. All I'm saying is,

there's some satanic shit going on. What I see, and I see this in so many fan bases, I see a feeling of like, you want to exercise the demons. And Phillies and Eagles fans already did it. Like, me and Alex have never seen our teams win. And honestly, never really even seen them get that close. Like, 2015, they were close.

The Mets were close. But, like, they played significantly worse than the team on the other side of the field. And so I don't know. They weren't like within a game, within two games. And the fucking A's can't even win a playoff series. And they're trying to be bad. So it's like I can understand like expecting things to go wrong because like percentage wise, most of the time the team loses. But like what's the worst that could happen if the Phillies don don't win last year's world series you just think about 2008 we don't have

2008 to think about you know what i mean like that sounds like a new problem and so many cities don't it is a me problem it is a me problem i see what you're saying i mean this is this is like more of like interesting like devolving it to like the the psychology of the sports fan almost. Right. Although I didn't take any psychology classes in college. I can only apply Marxist dialectics to this. Can you please apply Marxist dialectics to John Fisher for Alex's sake? Yeah. It's I'm going to have to bleep this.

You have to just. And then. All right. There you go. And yeah, play ball. The A's won't be good until they move back to Philly. I like that take. I like that take too.

Philadelphia is certainly big enough for two baseball teams. And I would love to see how that demographically would break down because I can't remember I did research a while back on how it broke down The A's were the Republican team And the Phillies were the Democratic team

But it was back in the day where the Borders between the two So it was like the A's were like the rich kids team Or like the bourgeois team Because they were like the How far they fall The Rockefellers Yeah, the money, the elite kind of. The Rockefellers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those types. And the Phillies were more of the poor kids team. So, yeah. You bring another baseball team to Philadelphia, that's going to make Angelo Cataldi change his mind about retiring. You've got to wait like 10 years. It would rip the city you know by its seams we can't handle that we have we can't we need the external hatred because we can't direct

it towards ourselves right you can't have that internal division no it's not possible yeah we would we would end up literally killing each other uh north northeast philly would finally break away and form Liberty County. If any of you are not familiar with Liberty County, please look it up. It's like, yeah, let's make a Republican county out of the place where all the cops live. So does every state have that sort of thing where there's just

a Republican county that wants to break? Because we had in Northern California they wanted to be the state of Jefferson. Yes. And it was just, it was right, it was just like all trees, and they were like, you know, it's a town of like 12 people.

Right, and pot forms, exactly. It's like right next to weed, California. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know. I think it's really beautiful, you know? Form the second 50 states, right? You all just get to kick one out The problem is the Senate balance

We let enough Republican states They could start slavery again How ironic things are Liam, are you still there? Yes, I was eating Okay He was just going to let us figure out the whole I was hoping for some of your Liberty County

Commentary to come on in there I think I DM'd you about Liberty County It was like the first time we ever talked We need to talk about The oppression done by the soda tax And Jim Kenny's Fascist state That doesn't allow me to get Sunny D

for $2.50 a gallon. Listen, I got to go over to fucking New Jersey now. I got to pay, what is it, $7, $8? You ain't going to fucking go anyway. I got to go over and go to Roger Wilco's to buy my fucking sodas now. Hey, don't talk bad about Roger Wilco. They got a geodesic

dome I really like. Have I told you? I don't know if I've said this on the pod, but I have an aunt who believes that if you stand in the center of the Roger Wilco geodesic dome that you will get spiritual energies. I do. No, your aunt's 100% 100% correct, dude.

Alex, do you know about the Philadelphia soda tax? It's very controversial. I mean, I'm familiar with a soda tax. I don't know it's is there something unique about philly's well that was like implemented and there was like a moral panic in philadelphia like at some point in the 2000s about like the obesity crisis and how philadelphia has this reputation for eating all these cheesesteaks and eating all this unhealthy food and so part of the like part of the political um overton window was to just tax soda, and then

everybody hated it because it was an attack on poor people more or less. Yeah. Like everything in Philadelphia politics. Oh, they didn't build the pre-cases that they were going to build. Yeah. Why would you do that? No, you gotta buy more Bearcats for the fucking police department. Yep. They can launch tear gas into random

streets during riots. Or not riots. It's awesome. Fucking awesome, dude. Yeah streets during riots. Or not riots. It's awesome. Fucking awesome, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Gotta love it. I like how at least some of these fucking loser cops are getting fired.

Yeah, I mean, it's tough, man. I just like the fucking people who are just like, oh, yeah, like Philly sucks. Philly sucks. Like, you know, like the thing that fucking grinds grinds me to no end is like wawa being like we're from philly except when it's inconvenient for us and then you know we're really actually from the burbs yeah but like in 10 fucking years when philly's cool again they'll come right back like nothing ever happened yeah so so so if you're not familiar yeah wawa has been closing some of their inner city stores in favor of

the ones they can build gas pumps at. That land is really only available out in the burbs. There's another Wawa going up. Me and my parents were joking about it when I was at their house this past weekend. There's another Wawa going up because it's more than one mile from another Wawa

in the suburbs. Yep. It has to be within a mile at all times for all people, which is probably not good. Wawa quality gone down a lot in the last few years. It honestly sucks now.

It's too much. You guys hear realist world hokey talk? Yeah. We're going to get real real about this shit. Sorry, guys. You reprise your role in the Chicken Kitchens voicemail. H-J for Delco. Yeah, we choked on.

No. Anyway, what was I saying? Yeah, so they focus too much on breadth. It's like you go to a diner and it's got an eight-page menu written in 8.5. It's like, man, dude, I don't want a cheeseburger. Like, come on. I don't want a cheeseburger from Wawa. I don't want fucking brisket, dude.

I don't want brisket from Wawa. Absolutely not. No. You know what I want? Fucking processed deli meat. Yeah. Breaded chicken tenders. Those are the only things I need.

I remember when they actually slice, like, for the hot turkey, they would slice, like, actual lunch meat and put it in gravy. I remember the original gobbler. It was so fucking good. This is going to make me a return guy. It should. We used to be a country. The way that they talk about the

Wawa's in Center City, Philadelphia, they talk about it like it's like how Fox News talks about Portland. It's just like completely controlled by anarchists. I'm like, nah, you can just kind of walk into a Wawa and it's a normal Wawa experience without gas and cars.

Yeah, they act like you're fucking... It's like the ruins of Gaddafi's palace in Libya. If you've seen that Anthony Bourdain episode. That's what the Wawa at Broad Street is, which I believe is closed.

Is it closed now? It's closed. The one in Taconi where they had the bouncer oh yeah that's fucking insane oh man yeah so i don't know how the fuck did we get get here uh i guess we're doing our trash talk that on our accounts here but at least at least the uh the But at least the NL East looks like it's going to be in the division. Yeah. Yeah.

Get the Mets going to be good. Get the Braves going to be good. Get the Phillies going to be good. And you get two other teams. How are the Nats going to be? I assume trash? Well, you know, Lerner just died, so... Pour one out.

Pour one out for a real one. Bro, wasn't it like a month ago, Alex, where you were talking about how long is Ted Lerner going to be? Yeah, I was like, it's not going to be that much longer, right? The clock's kind of ticking on getting rid of that team. Dan Snyder finally got him.

That's what it was. That's what it was. It wasn't the sour milk in the Nats box at FedEx. Oh, I forgot about that. You told me about that. Tom Pramod owner. Dan Snyder. They got him with the x-ray gun.

How old was he? He was in his 90s, right? They gave him Havana syndrome. Yeah, I think it was like 94.s right they gave him havana syndrome i think it was yeah i think it's like 94 dan snyder gave him havana syndrome yeah um so nats fans uh you got something to look forward to maybe uh maybe the the family won't be as cheap maybe maybe we'll see about that maybe yeah no they're to be worse somehow. Yeah. Just move it back to Montreal.

Honestly. At this point. I don't know. I just feel bad. There's nothing really going on with their... Anything. How's their farm system, the Nats? Is it worth a shit? No. Just no.

They got something back for one soto right right they tried to fix the whole farm system in one fell swoop and yeah exactly which usually goes very well right on whether they did that or not and the whole uh the whole quantity over quality thing usually works out very well for institutions i mean we're at the point like i feel like in baseball you used to be able to just, like, trade good players for great prospects at the trade deadline because teams didn't give a fuck about prospects. And they just wanted to, like,

win the headline, more or less. But we're at this point in baseball history where, like, teams only care about prospects. Like, they don't give a shit about good major league players. Yeah, prospect hugging is the ethos. Right, so, like, 31-year-old, three-war players, three-and-a-half-war players, teams are like,

we will literally push you in front of a bus. But like prospects, they'll hold on to until the cows come home because they know that they don't have to pay any of those guys money and they can always sell their fan base that, oh, the prospects are coming. And it saves them money in the long term.

And so it's like way harder to build your team via trades or like build up build your farm system back up via trades because teams don't want to look like they gave away an all-time prospect for a reliever at the deadline and so everybody's afraid of that and they're afraid of being criticized for that and so now the only way to have a good farm system is to develop players well and obviously cheap shittily run organizations don't develop players well and the nationals have been you know despite the fact that they won the world series in 2019 i think that that was more of a testament to like player acquisition and their gm at the major league level rather than like organizationally deep um well-run structures providing them you know good good depth at every position because they don't

really have that sure yeah i mean for those actual um if there's actual nats fans um i've seen one in the wild before uh you know that does suck i feel bad it was in miami of all places too um yeah that's a place that it you know in another nls team you know i i saw when i was last time i was in miami one natat um which is right outside of walgreens and i took me a second i was like is that a walgreens oh no that is nationals yeah wow yeah they do exist yeah is it mitch mc Mitch McConnell? I should have asked. I didn't think so, but you never know. It could have been in the disguise. He was in a different reptilian skin at the time.

And lots of Yankees hats, which is to be expected. But not a single Marlins hat. I mean, I barely saw any at the fucking Marlins ballpark. That sucks, dude. That just sucks. But I do believe, though, the reasons the Phillies historically performed poorly there is that stadium. Like, I don't think it's ugly, per se, but it's interesting architecturally. But the noise reverberates there

in a way that is unsettling it's so cavernous it feels like an indoor swimming pool yeah like is there like fucking what's it called infrasounds in there that are making you fuck up do you think that baseball

is actually brown tones except for making you bad at baseball? The Miami Marlins brown note generator? Maybe they should try that, because clearly they need something. That's excitement. It's not good excitement, but it is excitement. They've tuned it the wrong way. It's been going after

the Marlins players this whole time. It's actually just going after the fans. The players are fine, but 10,000 baseball fans are having fun. That's generous. That was very generous. I'm sorry. Food is pretty good

there. I got Cuban coffee while I was there in Centerfield. That was exciting. I love to be over-caffeinated in public places. That's my whole life ethos well i like i had a 10 minute conversation the bar in centerfield the guy's like oh you're from philly yeah it's legit they'll make you any drink that you want there but he's like yo i'm from philly yo what's up man i'm like oh you're you're here like with like the marlins he's like yeah yeah but like he just wanted to talk to you

talk about how good the phillies are going to be for 10 minutes like like dude what even your employees are not marlins fans what the fuck like jesus christ at least like it says it's bank park the every single person there is like yeah yeah go fight it's gonna have a good game right yeah like like i've never i've never seen you're not gonna walk in there as a metsets fan and have a... Have a good time? Yeah, have a Cicis Bank Park fan or security staff feel like, yeah, secretly winking at you, go Mets. Yeah, no. Hey, that's Derek Jeter's fingerprints right there.

You know, diversity of thought. This is the future. Jesus. Yeah, he was building a real pluralistic organization. And it starts with the beer vendors. Finding new and fascinating ways to suck at baseball, yeah. Well, unfortunately, it didn't work out, and he had to fucking run back to Fox Sports

with his tail between his legs. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. There somehow being some sort of beef between A-Rod and Derek Jeter over who's, who gets the most like camera, much camera time or something like that. It's already started. The handshake was already awkward when they brought out Jeter to announce

that he was joining the booth. It was already. I mean, I have to think that Jeter just doesn't want a rod to get all the shine or, or it has to prove that like he can hang too. Right. Like a rod wasn't able to, to buy a baseball

team. Derek Jeter got in there. Oh, A-Rod's on TV? Guess what? Derek Jeter can do that too. That rivalry, 100% there, no matter what they say. If only Derek Jeter would have improved his defensive base metrics, it'd be like

Alex Rodriguez. If only Derek Jeter had taken that rivalry seriously as a baseball player. That's where A-Rod was way better than him. When I was... I was at the game where the Angels beat... Where the Angels lost

to the Phillies in that walk-off where that kid was praying. The entire game, there was an Angels fan behind me who was just like talking to like his kid brother or something like that like someone in his family about how bad derrick cheater was defensively and like the entire game and it's like and i'm like getting mad and like it's been six innings and you keep saying he's statistically the worst defensive shortstop to have ever been on the hall of Fame. Shut up, God damn it.

And then he kept calling Otani-san the entire game, too. I remember you telling me about this. Yeah. I hope Otani-san. It's a shame we're not watching Otani-san play. And then it was the seventh inning, and he's at his peak of his chirpiness. And then you have the Bryce Harper grand slam to tie the game and then he just shut up the rest of the fucking game and i wish i wish if he wasn't with his kid i'd be like hey that's right that's right shut up well you know

matt vascursion who's who oh yeah like does espn sunday night baseball he did mlb the show for a while the play-by-play guy, and now he does the Angels games, although he only does half of them for some reason because he doesn't want to actually work. I don't really know. He called when Otani hits a home run, he goes, Big Fly Otani-san.

That's his call. Yeah. I'm like, you... Yeah. I mean, I'm sure if it really bothered Otani a lot, he would tell someone from the team to tell Vaskersen to stop doing that.

But either way, it's probably not... Either so, kind of gross. Vaskersen is weird. Do you guys remember at the Angels Stadium when they rolled out a bunch of different quote-unquote ethnic foods to represent like the different players. So like they were like, Shohei Otani's on our team. So as a result, here's an Asian food booth. That's like Asian food? I'm like, what?

What is that? The more I like watch corporate management, the more I realize that every single corporation is exactly the same. When Alex and I were at NYU together, there was quite a controversy stirred up when one February for Black History Month, one of the dining halls decided

that they were going to serve fried chicken and watermelon and collard greens to honor Black History Month. That's not... That's... Come on, man. Which is like... But how is that happening with the los angeles angels i mean i know how it's happening because they're run by arty moreno and nobody else there's actually just a bunch of 48 year old white

guys making these decisions but still i've taken the pacific surf liner which goes by the stadium i've seen the desolate moonscape around it it makes sense if you if you didn't have a bottle of water with you in like august and you were walking from the furthest end you might not make it to the gate it is so fucking desolate they don't even they don't even open like three quarters of the parking lot for the games not because there's like not enough you know not because there's not fans going like there are there are fans you know they draw okay they draw better than like the marlins and the rays and the a's right but like the parking lot is literally so big that you can't possibly need all of those spaces even if you sold out the game and everyone drove by themselves there's got to be a climatological impact from

that parking lot like oh yeah oh let's get our get our finest weather minds on that well that's why arty moreno wants to you know build luxury condos on half of it because that's much better for society right he's just trying to build his own ecosystem out there is what he's doing right i mean legitimately i feel like disneyland has had a real mind-numbing effect on every single business in southern california they see disneyland and they're like they're doing it right. That is a sovereign nation. They have their own police. They have their own zip code.

They have their own fire station. Like that is the ideal goal for all baseball owners. And you know what? Some of them have succeeded. Like the Cubs, the Braves have succeeded in doing that. And others are trying to follow that model the um well i was once said surf liner like we were all getting drunk it was like a party the party train or something it was early too but there was a there was a girl from san diego who started talking to

me and my wife and she's like oh my god yeah we're in orange county and this this is republican shithole like she's just like straight up would say that it's like i was like i do that already but thanks for like you know like thank you she was like our tour guide every train stop we stopped by this is where the angels play it's like awesome great thanks yeah but no i just like actually had to point it out that you know you know that's a good kind of virtue signaling signaling you know i'm like that's cool yeah we're from pennsylvania but we're not those kinds of pennsylvania uh but i would one would wonder like what would someone like a connie mac would be in today's modern uh uh ownership ecosystem because he he didn't want to spend money but he also built nice shit with this like shy park was really pretty and stuff like that so yeah yeah i mean

it's so right he didn't want to spend money right he was all about like cutting corners and like gimmicks and to a certain extent i feel like there's that would probably succeed i mean as we've seen there's no lost love for for owners who don't spend money in today's game day and age and would rather spend it on i don't know a statue to put in the center field that gets ripped out like four years later i don't just spitballing here right like that feels like the the exact kind of thing that that a a connie mack baseball stadium in 2023 would be filled with is just gimmicks and you know people would come yeah i just i you know it's it's another the moreno uh

already moreno wants to build that up it's like it's going to be like if they do do that it's going to be like those like these like fake main street uh strip malls that they have out here it's just going to be that like it's going to be like town centers yeah a baja fresh there's gonna be a jack in the Box. There's already an In-N-Out. Like one street over. Do they have a spaghetti warehouse or whatever it is? Or Cheesecake Factory. I had something of those.

Cheesecake Factory, Old Spaghetti... It's called the Spaghetti Factory. Old Spaghetti Factory. That's a thing in California. It's going to be exactly like that. Connie Mack is an interesting question though. So a couple of years ago, Alex and I invited the Cespedes family barbecue guys.

I guess maybe this was last year. It was last year during the lockout. I honestly don't remember. We invited them on and we did the least terrible owners draft. So we, instead of drafting our favorite owner or, you know, instead of drafting the owners who we hate the most or like who would go to the guillotine first or whatever,

we drafted the ones who are at least terrible, who got themselves to the back of the guillotine line. And when we were looking, doing research for this pod, I was looking at owners throughout baseball history and trying to kind of figure out who are the least abhorrent, who actually tried, who wanted to put a good product on the field and actually like advance the cause of baseball in america and obviously like connie mack is one that comes up because he's like extremely famous and he was like trying all this gimmicky stuff to make baseball more interesting for fans i feel like cutting

corners back then and like cost saving metrics actually mattered because baseball was not like too big to fail and so he actually had to cut corners at some point because i mean maybe he didn't have to cut it to the extent that he did and probably he should have been paying players more or whatever but like baseball was still affordable to fans like they could still come to games and buy tickets and whatnot and part of the economics of baseball was like making it a viable thing for people to actually come to the ballpark and watch the game and support the team and so it always it always rubs me the wrong way when when a guy like rob manfred or owners these days compare the idea of modern baseball ownership to anything like connie max

era because it's like you guys are so you guys are like banks now so i don't know it's not the same we're not even playing the same game like this is not the same financial calculus but they use that as sort of like a blanket cover for themselves to pretend like they're still this like small time pull myself up by my own bootstraps owner and if i don't if i don't trade francisco lindor guess what there's not going to be a cleveland baseball team anymore at all it's like yeah all right let's let's take it down a notch well definitely like like i mean a lot of owners back then like that was their job right like they were that was how they made money you know like like really like charlie finley you know like sold his insurance company um and was like well i need the a's to kind of succeed right or or not succeed but then i just don't pay any of the

players and so i pocket the money anyway right but like so there was like at the very least like a tiny bit more of an incentive because it's like if fans don't show up like yeah fans are not are not paying players salaries anymore but 60 years ago like gate receipts like they were right like like pre-tv deals and and you know massive sponsorships and stuff like if you didn't sell enough if you didn't sell enough hot dogs you had to trade babe ruth to the yankees like that that was true that literally happened so i mean the red sox owners were just being cheap of course but like they could have afforded it but you know this happened throughout under any circumstances have to have to handle that yeah i know i'm i know i know i know but

like the way that i compare it you know'm i know i know i know but like the way that i compare it you know it's like you know the idea of like the small town the small time landlord you know like the landlord who just owns two houses and they they can't work and so their second house is the thing that pays for their first house right and that's like a thing that persists even though it's not really true in america for the large part the difference is like a baseball owner in connie max era was was that idea of the small town landlord they they would have been fine they wouldn't have starved if they had to if the baseball team was not doing well but they weren't making like buku bucks all

the time and nowadays it's like nowadays baseball teams are international consolidated real estate firms who make one second i just gotta shut my door yeah who make sorry about that raking billions and billions of dollars just as passive income yeah it's it's it's they're like mints onto themselves like they are complete money sources um like they did they like you said they generate and also you know highly incestuous nepotistic organizations as well like we were talking we were talking about like what would you do if you won the Powerball when it was in the billions. Would you try and buy

a baseball team? No one would sell anything to you. If they didn't know who you were, you were just some lottery winner. They would maybe have a meeting with you out of courtesy, but there was no way they'd let you buy in.

No, they certainly wouldn't let me and Alex buy in. Right. No. No. Well, I was saying is if I won the Powerball, my goal would be I would pay all the money to like driveline or whatever. Like, look, let's just see if we can get me signed by a team. I'm paying millions of dollars for like two years of training i right

i'm like 35 or whatever but let's just see if we can like develop a like a weird pitch or something that gets me at least to a minor league roster yeah you could learn the ghost forkball yeah i think i would um i think i would fuck off to Italy and delete everything online. I think I would buy a house in Italy and just never talk to anyone. Just fuck off forever. Yeah, I hear that. But then four or five years later, we just see this Liga di Baseball Italiana podcast. No one knows where it's being funded from. Yeah, but suspiciously,

a lot of these rules changes look suspiciously like something I've heard on a podcast. Why are there two mounds? Why are they both in the third base outfield? I'd be doing my Mike Piazza shit, you know? I hope not. Why are the bats made of

Barilla noodles? Actually, that's a good idea. Barilla, if you want to sponsor, by the way, we'll take that. We don't need DraftFox. If Barilla is going to sponsor any podcast, please. Please, at least contact both of us. Contact two of us.

Barilla is like an every night thing for us. Maybe we can pool our listenerships. Under one umbrella, they just give us both the sponsorship. I think we can make something work. We got three people including me who listen to both. There is actually two of them.

Shouts out to you guys. You know who you are. I don't. The only ones who actually see my face. Alex and I, we joke all the time about once Tipping Pitches makes it huge, about how we're going to have a Tipping Pitches Milan office. Oh, yes. A Tipping Pitches Naples seafaring office. We're going to have the Malibu studio

only. Not an office. No employees. No one's going to be doing work in there. We only record while we're in Malibu when it's not on fire. Can you do like a Tim Pitch's Galway office? I'll do like the whiskey production. I'll do

Tim Pitch's East Liberty's office too, just so that we have a place to call home still. I mean, at this point, with this period of growth, we have so many diversified interests anyway. We're going to need a whiskey guy. That's already going to be on the table. Your face transformed into A-Rod in

Lord of the Rings. Right. All the properties we're going to own. Oh, my God. He's been corrupted. We're going to be so Oh, my God. He's been corrupted. We're going to be so diversified. We just own so many condos. Diversity of thought. They all have microphones in them for some reason.

It's like the podcast expense. The books behind you just turned into boxes of sunglasses. I can promise if I had A-Rod money, which, to be clear, we don't know how much money that is. We don't actually know if he has any money. Let's say bucks. It's like Donald Trump. Exactly.

We're like, I never really know what are his assets or his liabilities. If I had A-Rod money, I would not be posting workout videos on Instagram. I would not be doing it. Because why the fuck would you? Right. Yeah. As an English teacher of primarily emotionally disturbed children, I will say this.

He strikes me as someone who has deeply, deeply, deeply low self-esteem and still somehow thinks that he's not living up to what his dad wished that he could be or something like that. There's sadness behind everything he does. He has like a thousand-yard stare. Alex here, not Alex Rodriguez, Alexlex here i consider him i mean they're kind of merging a little bit right yeah one of the foremost alex rodriguez scholars in the world honestly not just in america not just in the tipping pits universe but in the world like i feel like you really

understand him on a spiritual level you go go on deep dives. You participate in his Instagram sweepstakes giveaways. I do. Yes. Yeah. The only thing left for you to do is to become his protege, which I have been urging you, and I will urge you again on this podcast, to try harder to do. I mean, it's a little dangerous. Like, I don't really know where I end and Alex Rodriguez begins.

You know, like, it's getting a little sketchy. No, he's got huge, I mean, these days, huge divorce guy energy, right? And that combined with his true poster's heart. I mean, the man cannot log off and I just have to hand it to him. Yeah, it's quite, yeah, yeah. I mean, it just would suck.

It's like you have all this money and you're still not happy. I would be very happy if i had that much money in his career yes incredibly happy if i was divorced i'd still be pretty fucking happy um if my wife hears this i still love it oh man yeah if my wife still hears this i still you shirt. Has my wife asking a lot of questions. As she's standing right outside the door listening. Tom!

Tom! Fucking, wait till you make the money first. No, shut up. Oh, yeah. The big teacher books. 20 years, I'll be making six figures. Proud of you. For the last three years of my career. Let's go.

Yeah, if there's still a pension plan. Maybe you can put your name on the lease for the Malibu office. I know. Careful. Chop, chop, man. Two big free britches. Yeah, I'll form the shell corporation uh for you guys yeah please do you're just the guy signing like a hundred pieces of paper an hour you know well that would be the

way to do it right if you got the powerball you you like team up with the good face right who gets you in the door you say hey i got the money i just need you to uh i don't know sign this back i still don't really know how those work right you just just sign just sign the the dotted line for me so the owners can trust me and you know i i already have one and a half knees so when the the mobs come calling and to break them hey it's it's a half any less than you guys would lose yeah they're going to go home feeling very unfulfilled. It jokes on you.

It jokes on you, buddy. I already don't have an ACL. Something me and a lot of athletes have in common. You have one and a half knees? Yeah. How much longer is that list? Yeah.

Well, who was the baseball player we were talking about, Liam? We're saying he has one knee. He just, like, interchanges it every time he needs to throw. I forget who it was. Oh, what's his... Oh, fucking... The guy who... Was it Chris Sale?

Well, he broke his hand. Chris Sale ruined my life which is Boston Energy Chris Sale ruined my fucking life dude yeah he broke his hand and just did like 800,000 Red Sox fans the same time they heard that

hang on I'm trying to who's the pitcher who looks like a bird oh Craig Kimbrell yeah yeah yeah yeah I Who's the pitcher who looks like a bird? Oh, Craig Kimbrell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, uh... I keep forgetting he's on the Phillies. I keep forgetting he's on the Phillies. I just remember everyone mocking him.

Yes. And it was kind of getting to him a little bit. Yeah, well, congratulations. Yeah, joke's on us. He's a Philadelphia Philly. Yeah. And he won a ring with the Sox. Yeah.

He was like the best closer in the league for a few years. No, he isn't. He's a born-again Christian. Thank God. He'll fit right in. As that guy Matt on Twitter said, the Phillies are a three-percenter team that plays baseball. That's like a bonding activity, yeah.

And yet they managed to do a game Friday night. Oh, man. Jesus Christ. Is our president Dark Brandon, is he a real Phillies fan? I know his wife is. She was fucking in there for the birds.

He's always been... He's always said, go Phillies whenever they were doing well. Do you think that he would come on our podcast to talk about Craig Kimbrell? Probably. His wife is from fucking Willow Grove. She is in there.

Nice. I'm a 30 minute drive from His wife is from fucking Willow Grove She is in there Nice I'm a 30 minute drive from the Jill Biden birthplace The homestead I forget what her Main name is Where her family built the house Out of logs

During the colonial days I know we've expressed it on this podcast But I want to speak for everyone now. We have a captive audience. Her middle name is Jacobs, by the way. When I say, I speak for everyone when I say that Jill Biden could get it. All right.

It's always an adventure when we talk to you guys. I went to Upper Moreland. Upper Moreland, how about that? I went to Upper Moreland. Upper Moreland. How about that? I used to work at a place right by the high school there. That's one of us territory. Don't you love

not being able to drink your well water? Asbestos. No, the poly something. Sorry, I was thinking of Ambar. No, it's the other toxic. From the firefighting film at the Willow Grove.

Oh, the Air Force Base? Air Force Base. Now, drone command center. They fly a lot of the drones out of there. Not actually out of there, but they have... The Xbox controllers are there. Right, of there. Not actually out of there, but they have the Xbox controllers are there. Right, of course.

I'm not joking. War crime, baby. It's all good. It's Air National Guard Base slash Xbox Controller Depot slash War Crime Central. The highest pollution superfluous in the world. Enough about the

Phillies defense. We made it an hour. Congratulations, everybody. Oh, yeah. I was going to put some of the rule change stuff. I think we can put on that.

That's a relief to me. You'll be back. I don't relief to me. You'll be back. I don't have any thoughts. You'll be back. Don't worry. You guys are our first return guests. Oh, wow. So congratulations. Yeah, you can now get free well drinks during happy hour.

A joke I did not steal from Trash Future. All right. We got two voicemails from okay one from one from a long time listener charlie another from wayne so uh uh you're ready you're ready to listen to these sad eagles losing voicemails yeah yes feed off of it hold on let me just tap my vein real quick yeah your giant jersey i mean was a huge Giants fan for most of my life

until I just kind of stopped watching football altogether. But the Giants Super Bowls were like two of the four best days of my life. You know? Honestly, the days of watching football, I just feel like there's going to be one bad injury that's going to make me go, hmm, not sure I could do it in the same way. But until then, go Birds. All right. Anyway, let's going to be one bad injury that's going to make me go, hmm, not sure I could do it in the same way. But until then, go birds. All right.

Anyway, let's listen to Charlie. No birds. No birds. Charlie and Roxborough. Yeah. The 0 for 3 continues. Chafee chips. Yeah, this one just as bad as the others because, again, much like all three,

it looked like they were going to do it until they didn't. And Q Gannon didn't pull through at the end. Reed made the actual adjustments. It looked like just blown coverage after blown coverage late. Covered a hard flat. Can't say anything about the offense. They did everything you could do to win that one. And, you know, one holding call cost them the

bowl. But, you know, 13 days union season starts at home to Columbus. So, we'll get on it with the boys in blue and gold to open it up.

And their new Simpsons team jerseys. Later, Tom and Liam. Sorry, I didn't say your names at the beginning, but no birds. Not offended. Later.

Bye, Charlie. Bye, Charlie. Normal Eagles fan. Normal football. We would die for Charlie. I want to be very clear on that. I would follow Charlie into a war.

Charlie, I don't even like the Eagles, and I felt that, brother a war. Charlie, I don't even like the Eagles, and I felt that, brother. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, consider that, plus, you know, he's a diehard Union guy, and the Union lost the same day that Phil has lost.

Yeah. Yeah, they're going for the second-place sweep, the silver sweep, we call it. I just made that up. Man, fuck you. Hey, we're going for the second place sweep, the silver sweep, we call it. I just made that up. Man, fuck you. Hey, maybe the Sixers will go to the finals with the golden sombrero, just like Ryan Howard, man. The darkest part of this, honestly,

well, for me personally, the funniest part of this was that my sister's fiance had a bet that all of the Eagles, Sixers, and Phillies would – it was like a futures bet, a parlay for like an insane odds because it was preseason before the Eagles even started, that they would all win their championship. And they've so far both come in second, which is like very cruel. It's cruel.

Yeah. The fates are cruel. Maybe draft bucks would have paid that off. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. Not being very familiar with soccer, he said the union season was starting. Yeah.

And I was like, it's always union season, baby. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you serious? Yeah. I figured it out. Yeah, I thought you were a real Union fan, Charlie. Charlie, now famously anti-worker. Yes.

All right. We've got one more voicemail from Wayne. Hey, Tom. Hey, Liam. It's Wayne. Pronoun to him. It's been about four days since my heart was completely ripped out with the Philadelphia Eagles losing to the Kansas City Chiefs. The whole call, yeah, it was probably the right call,

but should it have been made? Probably not because that call is not made 9 out of 10 times. I guess looking forward to the baseball season. I hope you guys have been coping with the losses like as well as I have been doing. Anyway, go Birds to the end. Can't wait for baseball season and fuck

Temple. Pay up, motherfuckers. That's right. 100% agreed, Wayne. Union season, baby. Oh, man. I think I should be really reasonable about this hold call. You know? We didn't lose on that whole call.

It just, it just makes it just was the dagger. It was the dagger. It made you, it didn't give you the chance for the redemption in the end. Like the loss was the two touchdowns given up. Yeah. On not playing defense,

not, not covering the flat during a, a goal line stand. Yeah. Very well. Gannon got left in the desert, so at least there's that. Yeah. Oh, if we ever make t-shirts, 10,000 losses, it's always union season.

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to see who our names were. I give you that much credit. Not $20 a referral. That's bullshit. I have to respect that you pretty much right off the top of this podcast spent like 10 minutes making fun of these people. And then we circled back just in case they hung in there. They were like, well, I know.

I know they roasted me, but that's part of the joke, right? Let me see what else they got. I'm not fully convinced that this is a real company um however more power to you if they give you money i would just say don't give them your social security number as the first as the first point of communication no no uh we'll give them the uh well since all corporations are people uh 10,000 losses incorporated, which is a Delaware corporation, actually, unlike WTYP. And, yeah. We'll give you our lawyers.

We'll talk to your lawyers. We'll get it out of the way. Nice. All right. Well, thanks. Thanks, guys, for coming on. Congratulations to the big repeat guest repeat guest and shit posting uh an audio shit post for almost uh almost our 15 minutes thank you guys for

having us this is yeah our distinct pleasure appreciate your company yeah um and and mike and my condolences to you both i will say thanks if it wasn't thank you i feel like you guys got a chance to like let your hair down a little bit. Not be so strict. Talking about baseball 100%. As serious as you take it on TV pitches. You know, we don't take everything that seriously. But one thing that we do is, I don't know, pretend like we're actually doing a professional podcast sometimes.

We try to do topics and segments and whatnot and then it doesn't always feel like we achieve that so it's nice to come here and really kind of just like jam for a little while this is like unplugged right yeah yeah which is right which is really honestly the bread and butter of leftist podcasting. Like the unplugged, the kind of just anything might happen energy to it is important. The mechanical keyboard clips make their way through the noise gate. Yeah. We are the album versions of Grateful Dead songs. And you're like the live versions.

We're just up here. Who knows how long it'll go, but we're going to have a blast. And who knows how high we are. It's usually the drinking, but I'm not. No, I actually am sober. Because I'm sick. Oh, yeah.

Drinking doesn't actually make sickness go away. I guess my grandmother was wrong. All right. R.A.P. alright anyway well thanks guys for coming on let's see I'm going to do our outro so shouts out to our North Catholic High School graduate tier patrons

Patrick N, Sean P, Mike S I made the B, it's Steve and D we have new new 700 level patrons this week so there's no shouts out or shout outs you know it's like an attorney general plugs this week, so there's no shouts out. Or shout outs. It's like Attorney General. Plugs. Yeah, Attorney General shouts out.

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That would be great. And then other podcasts. Well, guys, where can people get more Tipping Pitches content? Yeah, tipping underscore pitches on Twitter. Tipping Pitches wherever you get your podcast apple spotify stitcher uh audible fucking actually i don't know if we're on audible we're in a lot of places you know tipping pitches wherever you get your pods um that's pretty much it we have a patreon but honestly see if you like the show first, you know? If you do, come hang. Patreon Slack

is always popping. Tom is always creating controversy in there. So if you want more controversial Tom opinions, that's the place to be. I try my best. Atta boy. I do also hijack when you do your live

streams. I like to hijack, you do your live streams. I like to hijack for five or six hours. We need to get hijacking. Frankly, it's really a blessing, honestly. Well, off the air at some point, I wanted to ask you guys how you arrange your technology, because that's something that we wanted to do at some point for our show. But that's another conversation for another day. Alright, also listen to our

other friends' podcasts, like Well, There's Your Problem, Trashy... Don't listen to Well, There's Your Problem. Don't listen to it anymore? Nah, fuck you. Listen to... Lions Led by Liams. Lions Led by Liams. What's the other one? Oh, I'm going to be on...

What's it called? It's the boat one. Comptown. You're going to be on Comptown. I'm going to be on, what's it called? It's the boat one. Comptown. You're going to be on Comptown. I'm going to be on Comptown. Beyond the Breakers? I have Beyond the Breakers. I'm going to be on Beyond the Breakers coming up soon. Cool.

Hey, I have, I actually have touched Stav, just so you know that. Proud of you. There is a picture of me and Stav going like this. Oh. Yeah. His flesh was much firmer than I expected. Okay. That's enough.

Yeah, I do. That's enough. I do expect. Hey, hey. Looks very soft. All right. All right. All right.

I think that's it. All right, guys. Thanks. Have a good night. Bye, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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