Ten Thousand Losses - MVP Of Our Hearts

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

Embiid was robbed of his MVP title by a guy who's friend has several fascist tattoos! The lads talk about that, Joe Girardi's questionable status as Italian-American, Sixers playoff frustrations, touc...h on the other sports, and answer a couple of voicemails. This was recorded before the Sixers decided to take a nap during game 7.  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Leave us a voicemail: 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy doesn't come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge ice balls. We, the Dallas Cowboys, had assassinated John Kennedy. Yeah, so I told my wife, I was like, hey, it looks like Roz is in Rome. And she looks at me and she goes, that fucking asshole. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Just, oh, God, what is he doing there? I want to be there right now. He is there involuntarily is my favorite. Like, it's so fucking funny he's he's not having a good time uh his dad's never gonna listen to this but uh he's not having a good time i'll tell you
Starting point is 00:01:14 that oh that sucks it sucks to be in a foreign country and you're not having a good time yeah exactly um i'm sure he's very much enjoying the large crowds of people at the tourist spots. Well, that's what he does best in his large crowds of people. Yes. Yes. Famously.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Man, the crowds there even give me, Mr. Extrovert, like, pause. I'm like, oof, a little too much. Don't like that. I'm going to get in a fight with a guy. That actually did happen. A guy tried to... I think he was trying to mug me.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Not mug me, but pickpocket me. Sure, sure. I was in Trastevere. It was night. We went to a restaurant. And a guy comes up and he's like, Oh, my brother. And tries to hug me.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I just was like, Yo! Back the fuck off! Right. Understandable. They don't expect that. They don't expect you to be like Kenzo. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Your mama raised you better than this. Yeah. I don't hug strangers. No? Unless I'm drunk and I'm in a bar and we're singing songs or something. We've all made mistakes. Yes, we have uh yeah so um uh it's triggering my rome sickness because i did the the rome sickness yeah that's what you when you go to tampa rome they're like
Starting point is 00:02:36 oh you rome sick when you you're gonna be rome sick in six weeks when you leave rome sick blow me it's a have you have you been to rome i think yeah yes yes yeah we talked about that so it's it's beautiful chaos it's fine it's beautiful chaos it's okay it's not as good as paris i haven't been to paris except the airport i think we might have talked about this i've i really like paris it's my my one failure as a person. Well, you're a weeb for the French and I'm a weeb for the Italians. Yeah. But no offense. I did meet a Quebecois
Starting point is 00:03:12 in real life. Sorry. Yeah. No, she's really nice. And I just told her, I was like, yeah, for some reason my podcast, of course I had to, you know, now that's... That's how we introduce ourselves. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:25 For some reason that people most people outside the uh united states are from that listen this podcast are from quebec i was like i don't know we don't we don't know either and we don't know why they go down the jersey shore and we've talked about this uh but uh something that that you were talking about you were you were on the news today i was on the news today well actually technically i was on the news a couple days ago but yeah and um you were in the paper yes i was it's busy busy month for liam yeah so so liam i was uh i i was not expecting my tweet about myself getting gas to go viral. Well, I got to say, I'm doing numbers with my response.
Starting point is 00:04:13 This is the Twitter. Because you know what? Everyone could imagine you saying that. I was, you know, I was like, I don't know, dude. I just, uh, it's, it's a bit frustrating to hear, uh, you know, Oh, we're giving. And, and, and I think, uh, Francis said it earlier today on Twitter that like, I'm not an America first person, but I am an also America, please. First.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Right. Like it would be, I can, we get some health care and and and uh reasonable transit you know right i don't and i don't think we're crazy for it no how dare i no but you know because right never mind i was going to go into something that was going to like get me like like a solid fifth of our listeners oh i'm I'm mad at this. So I'm not doing that. Uh, I don't stoke the tendency fires, especially not with election coming up. And yeah, let's,
Starting point is 00:05:12 let's, let's have unity left unity. Yeah. It's yeah. We agree. It's infuriating too bad. Yeah. As we,
Starting point is 00:05:20 as we said with shocks, we have eaten a vegan chili and, uh, we have eaten the vegan chili. Yeah. But yeah. So, I mean, you and I think we're having a good week. I mean, I know I am.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm glad, dude. Yeah. And now I feel bad because I feel good. So, it's always nice to have this like, what the fuck is going to happen when you're feeling good? Love it. Bad stuff. Yeah. fuck is going to happen when you're feeling good uh love it bad stuff yeah it's gonna happen yeah fucking love how society works where when you feel like nothing's wrong that means that something's wrong yeah i love anxiety dude it's my favorite fuck is that what that is is that anxiety am i are we doing cognitive behavioral therapy right now? Should we name it? What's the,
Starting point is 00:06:07 am I feeling anxiety? Is that what it is? Or am I just like, are you, do you think you don't have anxiety? I'm not a psychiatrist, but Tom, you have anxiety.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I, I mean, I don't think I do. I mean, everyone else in my family does. Okay. But I guess I do. Uh, maybe do uh maybe um no i'm a psychiatrist i'm jewish i'm currently laying on the couch next to uh liam's itx uh crypto rig it's and crypto rig he's he's two different things he's got some nfts he's he's minting right now those are those are two different things and uh and he's got the the glass well he's got glasses already but he's swapped them
Starting point is 00:06:51 out for freud glasses and he's cut the beard down to a goatee and he's asking me how how my uh relationship with my father was and how was it uh let's not talk about that Anyway Moving on swiftly Hello and welcome to another episode of 10,000 Losses The only Philadelphia sports podcast that exists I'm your host Tom Payne And my pronouns are he, him And with me is my co-host Yay Liam
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yay Liam Yay Yay Do you have pronouns or do you only get referred to Yay Your pronoun is yay and yay My pronouns are he, him Do you have pronouns or do you only get referred to first or second person? Your pronoun is yay and yay. My pronouns are he, him.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. So I don't think we have any announcements other than go to our Patreon. Please. Yeah. We got 68 people now. Thanks, guys and girls and non-binary pals. Yeah, everybody. All our fellow human beings.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Except Mets fans. Except for Mets fans. Well, I did join the Tipping Pitches Patreon, and I'm going to be finding the most... They have a Slack that you get sent an invite to. Oh, boy. And I'm not sure if they said, Hey, Tom, nice
Starting point is 00:08:04 to see you here, boy. the most obnoxious fillies like profile picture images and just I'm going to make Bobby ban me from that slack. So... We all must aspire to something. Yeah. We all got to have things going for us in life and that's mine.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Speaking of Patreon, join ours. Patreon.com slash 10,000 losses. Call in to our voicemail 267-371-7218 or text us there or DM us. Don't DM us too much. Yeah, don't DM us too much.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It's fine. It's fine. I'm not being DM. You might be DM too much. I'm not being. I would exist with or without this podcast. Yeah. Although I do get
Starting point is 00:09:10 like one or two a month that are out of nowhere. You know, I have poverty numbers compared to you. Yeah. Well, what are you going to do? Yeah, not all of us could be that handsome. Oh, thank you. Yeah. You're pretty handsome.
Starting point is 00:09:24 All right. It's the art of the segue there. handsome. Thank you. You're pretty handsome. It's the art of the segue there. They don't teach you that in school. Tom himself teaches that. I actually do teach kids how to do segues. Do you want to talk about sports today? Yeah, let's talk about sports today. Let's talk about...
Starting point is 00:09:43 Do you know the Phillies game is on right now yeah it fills up four two uh bottom of the seventh two out two two count oh so one of the mariners is i think just hit a set catch it you stupid fuck there you go oh i have two four two i have i have it it's on commercial still for me. I guess we're on the delay, even though it says live. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we lost a series to the Mets.
Starting point is 00:10:13 We were supposed to have a four-game series. Then the one I was supposed to go to got canceled because it rained. And you can believe they were going to try on Saturday to play that game. Do you remember what the weather was like Friday and Saturday? Not so good. Not so good. It was flooding in some places. And apparently the team told the employees to come in the work.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Fuck you. Yeah. All right. Let's break this down. Okay. It's Saturday. It's raining. It's 48 degrees out. It's Saturday. It's raining. It's 48 degrees out.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's 25 mile per hour winds, gusting to 50. You're expecting another quarter to half inch of rain. Why the fuck are you going to try and have a game? Because you're a greedy dick. But wouldn't you just, if you postponed the game and had it on a day with better weather, wouldn't you make more money? One would think. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's what I thought, too. So I'm confused about that. So your employees and your fans are driving in, and you played some sports. You played some sports ball. I played some sports. What's it like playing sports ball of any sort in that kind of weather? It's fun, but it sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And it's fun because it sucks. Right. And in a game like baseball where you're not like wrestling in the mud, you would in football, it sucks ass. It hurts to catch the ball. The bat stings more. And think of pitchers, their arms are going to get cold faster. You're asking for injuries.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Right. Baseball is not a winter sport for a fucking reason, unless you're in Cuba. So I don't know. Fuck this tape. So I think we're on the record of saying ownership, dumb fucks. Yeah. Dumb fucks. Dumb fucks is a good word for it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I see Alec Bomes at bat, but I don't know if that's the later one. I just got to close my door. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, I could hear the connex full of cryptocurrency running. He's still closing his door, folks.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I'd like to introduce you to what we call dead air. Let's hear what other drops we have. Accused of punching a police horse. A classic. C-T-E! C-T-E! C-T-E! C-T-E! Amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:44 We also have... That's preloaded. This one was also preloaded in the Zencast for some reason. Like... That one likes to infinitely repeat. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why. Then we have this.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You're now listening to NPR. Jesus Christ. Turn it off. You're listening to Inside Edition. Turn it off. That's shit out of here. Fuck you. Yeah. You happy?
Starting point is 00:13:33 You proud of yourself? Yes. You think that's funny? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I think that's pretty funny. This is the last episode. Goodbye. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I thought you'd like an exaggerated response i was gonna give you one this this is the uh yeah this is the this is the episode where we try to where we attempt to murder each other yeah yeah no well that's right welcome to the murder hour here on npr podcast. That's pretty accurate. Hold on, I gotta get the wet noise. We're here to talk about Jeffrey Dahmer and Marino and all the other... You gotta kind of keep going. Yeah. You gotta kind of like this every so often. There is a recording of me on, not on WHY, but on WRTI.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah. Because your boy's been around and uh yeah i was on the fucking radio once not really i was interviewed and uh that's all it was is mouth sounds yeah i'm like don't you guys have like filters for that and they're just like fuck you and it was funny because i was talking about something that i was like in an official capacity as a representative of an organization talking about something very serious and then the person they interviewed they whose interview they cut in right after mine was about how this painting symbolized uh eroticism and sex oh cool yeah have you ever seen a... You're familiar with Winslow Homer, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Has his pictures of guys in boats in New England ever come across as erotic to you? All the time. Maybe it's something I just not get in them. I get pointy. I guess I don't have the Homer erotic gaze. Oh, yeah. My wife would laugh.
Starting point is 00:15:23 She's like, yeah, you talk about about guys muscles all the time so yeah uh wife name redacted yeah i probably have already said it on this podcast you have not i've been i'm pretty sure i said it in the intro uh no you just said my wife i was honestly listening for it okay all right oh i'm glad that you are because'm glad that you are. I don't want you to dox yourself. Listen, my wife's name is whatever you want it to be. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:53 The weird thing is that she's called unpronounceable. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's sort of your eyes roll back. It's sort of the at the mountains of madness shit. Taliki Lee. K at the mountains of madness shit. To Leaky Lee. Kali Ma.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Kali Ma. So we're a sports podcast, as you know. Yeah, right. Okay, so you want to fucking talk about Joe Girardi getting ejected? So there was a bullshit call. There was a bullshit call. And honestly, I'm not interested in talking about the minutiae at this point i just want to talk about jojo already getting ejected which fucking quit the team just leave dude you don't want to be here we don't want you here no one wants to hear fucking go home he he like he it was like he walked up said a few angry words
Starting point is 00:16:39 like like and then he got thrown out of the game and he walked back you know he and then he like turned around said one two things and then just went back pathetic pathetic uh when you get thrown out of the game that's when you get your money's worth that's when you let this guy know exactly yeah exactly it's like me getting arrested exactly uh yeah you you got to try and get the whole three strikes you're out right in one arrest yes yeah yeah you gotta
Starting point is 00:17:12 get your money's worth you gotta turn your hat backwards you gotta get in the guy's face you know who would have gotten his money's worth Charlie big ball Charlie Charlie Charlie Charlie Vanduul from North Fork, West Virginia. Yeah. Already a Philly legend.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Double Philly legend because he told Howard Eskin, I'll fucking knock you out. Anyone who says that to Howard Eskin is a national hero. Yeah, or I'll knock you the fuck out or something like that. You keep talking. He's like, I'll knock your fuck out. You keep talking like that. And then Howard at that point stopped because he his troll persona you know is one thing but when
Starting point is 00:17:51 charlie manuel says like walking away under his breath i will fucking knock you out you don't have anything to say back because he will come over there he will fucking throw throw hands and that is something that we value and you should do which which we value but apparently the phils do not yeah i don't know like you know at least gabe capler would come up you know say what you want about him but he would come up like you fucking just knocked his kombucha over and spilled it all over his new prius and he would he would come up there and and like you could see the spit flying this is what i fucking hate about about um oh my god what's his fucking name jojo rardy jojo rardy i dude you you have to get heat like doc getting you know a technical for defending
Starting point is 00:18:43 and be like that's what a coach's job is, dude. These guys are professional athletes to the height of their physical prowess. They know how to fucking field a ball. So it's your job to get out there and be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why are you fucking my guys like that? No, that's not acceptable.
Starting point is 00:18:59 If you get tossed, you get tossed. I would rather have a manager or someone like a coach and like there are there are coaches who are basically zen like yeah uh in in that like you know they never get tossed but they just never show emotion one way or the other right like i respect that in in certain situations like like the great to me the greatest coach like of of any sport ever like is is probably pop right and he i've seen pop get tossed yeah he gets mad he gets mad for his guys
Starting point is 00:19:35 he sticks up for his guys like you know balachek football coaches don't really get tossed but like balachek gets like heated like when they get like fined and shit and they're like yeah there's there's been like video of bill balachek like bringing a ref over and basically being like, what the fuck was that? Because they can't hear you, but they can hear you when you're two feet away from this video. I think of Bill Belichick saying to ref, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. And and that's like, yeah, it's just like attitude of like, these are my these are my guys. I'm like, I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I got to defend them and I got to get them fired up because they're going to be playing for me. Like, you have to understand the position you hold. Right. Like, you can say what you want about John Tortorella. He's a lunatic, but like he's fired up like that's, you hockey coaches when they get heated like I've seen Steve Kerr who is normally like a warrior monk break a clipboard over his knee and just like throw the shards
Starting point is 00:20:32 when the warrior monk guy gets mad then you know shit like you know is fucking going down but like I want to by the authority vested in me by the Republic of Italy I want to, I want to just by the authority vested in me by the Republic of Italy, I want to, I want to, I want to bring this to head and we're going to vote on it. Should Joe Girardi status as Italian American be revoked?
Starting point is 00:20:56 Nah. No? Because the thing is, the thing is, the thing is, Tom, I'm used to Italians disappointing me. Thought you'd like that. I was like, maybe he'll get upset if I say it. Fuck it, let's do this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm used to Italians disappointing me, too. For a different reason. Well, I thought you move to fucking Collinswood already oh yeah Jesus Christ just say the n-word into Uber already
Starting point is 00:21:32 get it out of your system oh Jesus we do not endorse that yeah especially yeah alright moving swiftly swiftly moving on neither of us have ever done that we're not stupid
Starting point is 00:21:48 uh uh no like that's not that's not being flippant i have never said the n-word in uber no my cousin did oh i don't know if we had told that story and i didn't we did we did he got fucked up yeah as well he should have don't say that shit you won't get your ass said that and
Starting point is 00:22:04 um if you hear this and you're mad at me because I'm pretty sure I could take you now. You got your ass kicked and that's how it's going to be, man. Alright. I'm rubbing it in. No one on that side of my family listens to anything I do.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Fuck them. Let's talk about basketball. The Sixers came out last night and they stretched are you sure did they leave the locker room stretched and then what happened is they took a nice hot duke right on the floor yep i was steaming dukey right on the floor i watched that game from start to finish, and I promise you this, listeners, that P226 would have come in handy. I was driving to
Starting point is 00:22:52 Reading. I was in Reading for two hours. And that's like fucking hour 45 from where I am. Berks County, baby. Sorry about it. And I was listening on the way over, and I'm like, I'm so mad at this.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I have to turn it off. Cause I'm getting distracted. I was, I was alternating between watching the Bruins get their teeth kicked in and watching the Sixers get their teeth kicked in and just like, Corinne is like trying to console me. Like I wasn't like having a meltdown, but I was just like,
Starting point is 00:23:24 well, at least both our teams suck. Just furious. Like dude. Yeah. So what happened is that the Sixers didn't hit any shots and kept turning the ball over. And I can't coach.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And Joel Embiid can't see. And Tyrese Maxey is a five-year-old. And Danny Green shouldn't be on a fucking NBA roster. And Tobias Harris shouldn't be on an NBA roster and what's going to happen is that Tom and I are going to suit up for the next fucking game because we could do it a little better I think we're just strictly going for the
Starting point is 00:23:54 technicals we're just going to take players out yeah we are going to Marcus Smart this heat team yeah I am going to what the fuck is his name? Jesus Christ. The guy who broke his fucking knee backwards on the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:24:11 White guy. The white guy. Gordon Hayward. I'm going to get Gordon Hayward's Jimmy Butler's knee. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to cut some tendons. I want to see. I want to see that Achilles roll up your calf. You guys ever seen hamburger hell?
Starting point is 00:24:30 It's going to look like that. You thought Kevin Durant's injury looked bad. It's going to be worse. Yeah, it fucking sucks. We are not winning this series. Okay, so I want to say a couple things. Nikola Jokic is a terrific player who led his team in all statistical categories of note in the playoffs. He has zero help.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yep. That is a true statement. Joel Embiid is playing with half a head, no thumbs, and a concussion. I have been someone who's criticized and been in the past genuinely. I'm just like, you're too fucking busy trolling to play the game. Yeah. But like this dude has more heart than,
Starting point is 00:25:15 than anyone, maybe not that anyone, but like has so much heart and puts the city on his back and puts the team on his back. And it feels kind of doomed, but like Joel Embiid is a terrific basketball player and
Starting point is 00:25:29 I pray and hope that we can come back next year after Danny Green has been ejected into the fucking stratosphere and we get someone who can meaningfully make quarter threes.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Seth Curry apparently wants to come back. We might be getting Andre Drummond back. Uh, that team wins a championship. Uh, yeah, it was pretty bad. Uh,
Starting point is 00:25:56 it sucks. Um, yep. It's, it's the next two games are elimination games. Yep. So do or die kids. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:26:04 uh, Nicola Jokic, uh, he was in the ustad say so uh yeah yeah yeah yeah he knows what the bodies are buried yeah he committed war crimes i actually like jokic because he looks like he woke up 15 minutes ago after like a nap after his shift at the cigarette factory and they told him nickel like you gotta you gotta go play basketball in like 10 minutes. He doesn't always seem to be in control of his limbs. He wished for some sort of Serbian genie to make him good at basketball. And his limbs come from...
Starting point is 00:26:37 It looks kind of like Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2. I really like Nikola Jokic, genuinely. But I don't know if we have any Colorado-based listeners. I know the Avs are the favorite this year. I just want to say, fuck you. Fuck the Rockies. Fuck the Nuggets. Fuck the Avs.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, yeah. What about Peter Borg? Bruins aren't going to win a chip anyway it's fine uh oh fuck the broncos too and fuck russell wilson um i do i do want to tell you though nicola yokich is friends with darko uh
Starting point is 00:27:16 milicic who is a fascist oh really look look at me he's a supporter of uh you know doing that makes sense yeah i don't i'm not shocked by that. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're friends with a fascist,
Starting point is 00:27:28 are you friends with any fascists? Am I personally? Yeah. Uh, no, all my friends, my friends range in from on the political spectrum from like slightly left of Clinton Democrat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Which is more like out of ignorance than of like political belief. Right. Right. Right. All the way to like communist anarchist. Yeah. Assorted assorted factions. I don't know that I've,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I I'm friends with anyone who at least describes themselves to me as a Republican or like a conservative. I don't, I'm not friends. I'm not friends with anyone. No, I'm, I'm genuinely thinking because there's always this criticism like oh you don't have friends like they're
Starting point is 00:28:08 it's like no because like i i like i can't be friends with someone who i fundamentally see the world in a different way than right like and like who doesn't believe that like trans people should be protected or that jewish people or that like black people should be protected. Like I, I can't, that part of my brain doesn't just turn off. Yeah. I, I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:29 I, the same way. And, and I, we got honest analysis. I was just hoping for like the, like a pithy joke, like no fuck,
Starting point is 00:28:36 like, or you were to call me a fascist or something, but, um, no, I'm not friends with any fascists. Um, and you,
Starting point is 00:28:42 you, you gave a, like a heartfelt analysis, uh, cause you're not going to be friends with someone who thinks like hey maybe we should kill someone for their ethnicity and i think i think part of it is that like if you can stomach that person's beliefs get the like i don't want you in my life right like i can like listen you know i know like i have a tough enough time with like people's parents where i'm just like would you just shut the fuck up
Starting point is 00:29:04 yeah you know and and and sort of biting my tongue there and it's like i'll never be able to like I have a tough enough time with like people's parents where I'm just like, would you just shut the fuck up? Yeah. You know, and, and, and sort of biting my tongue there. And it's like, I'll never be able to like tell you meaningfully to shut the fuck up, but fuck,
Starting point is 00:29:11 fuck off, shut up and fuck off. Like that's, that's it for me, man. Like, you know, I don't believe like to me,
Starting point is 00:29:19 that's, that's like something I just can't and won't look past. And that makes me an asshole that it makes me an asshole. I don't fucking care. Well, like, you know, that's your politic like i i don't abide i don't abide bigotry in my friend group like right that's just how it works because i'll knock your ass out like yeah um i had a friend who who said the n- N word in front of me, and I threw a right hook at him. And we don't talk anymore. I can't justify that.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I won't justify that. That's the end of it. Yeah, that's completely fucking normal. That to me is normal. And you're okay for not being friends with those fucking people. I feel like there's so much guilting that goes into it but like yeah especially if your friend is darko milicic who's a draft bust and has chetnik tattoos yeah all over himself so fuck nickley yokich is what i'm learning yeah uh I was just trying to make a joke.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's got... So let's look at this. He has a supporter of the Ravnagora movement. That sounds racist. The Wikipedia just links straight to the Chetniks. He has tattoos of World War II Chetnik leaders. Nikola Kolobich. Let's see. War crimes. Let's see. War crimes.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Let's see. Yeah. His Wikipedia article is short. Mamchilo Dujic. Allegiance. Chetnik Association. Chetniks. Italy. Government and National Salvation. Nazi Germany.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Okay, so we got that. Let's see. We have draja mila milovich mihalovic milovich um let's see uh he was executed by tito cool so you know that he was an asshole um hey like right like look, whatever your criticisms are of the Federal Social Republic of Yugoslavia, Tito fucking kicked ass in World War II. I have begrudging admiration for Tito. Yeah. And then last is
Starting point is 00:31:37 these are tattoos of faces. Branko Boganovich, who let's see, he nicknamed the Jew killer, probably. Yeah, probably. which who let's see he nicknamed the Jew killer probably yeah in the in the in the in the 19 tech 1972 no
Starting point is 00:31:54 1942 check the regiment Gavrilo Princip that's a good name yeah okay that I feel like Gavrilo Princip might not have agreed with the checks i don't know were the black hand fascists i don't think so i don't yeah i thought they were kind of just like nationals liberation yeah a lot of that going around this is this is uh now this is this is lions led by liams um uh yeah so uh however the the the the boston celtics what they did is they uh
Starting point is 00:32:27 they won uh series is tied to two uh yannis can blow me uh he's very good though me i'm much i'm much angrier at the refs than i am at yannis yeah i don't mind a physically combative style of play i mind when that when that style of play doesn't translate into the refereeing where it's like if you're gonna allow these dudes to throw bows and like you know knock into each other you're gonna allow that but you can't allow it for one team and not the other yeah uh yeah janice is notorious for that being like the thing yeah he plays bully ball and like that's fine man that's it's a physical style of play. I respect it. Like you, you play to what you can get away with.
Starting point is 00:33:08 That is not a Giannis criticism. That is maybe a criticism of how the NBA is officiated. But like, you also aren't allowed to play defense anymore in the NBA. No, not allowed. So, yeah, the referees are trash. And God willing, once the series is over, they will be ejected into the stratosphere never to be seen again.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Is it Corey Nebel or Corey Nebel? Knable. Is it really Knable? I think it is. Is it seriously fucking Knable? Yeah. He's a big time chud. He looks like a fucking chud. There was someone saw his mom at the game and I'm not like I'm not going to say anything about what his mom looks like, fucking chud. There's someone saw his mom at the game, and I'm not
Starting point is 00:33:45 going to say anything about what his mom looks like, but she was wearing a Sons of Anarchy kind of jacket. These gray pants are fucking hideous. On the Philz?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. Oh, they're white pants, though. Yeah, they look like shit. All right. All right. Fuck Luka Doncic while we're at it. Sure. Let's see. Is he a fascist?
Starting point is 00:34:12 I don't know. He's just like a whiny crybaby who basically cries to the refs but does all the things that other people complain to the refs for. Yeah. Let's see. He can read four languages. He spanish after joining real madrid i guess they have a basketball club uh his mother's slovenian his father's a slovenian of serbian descent um he was his mom owned beauty salons and Small business tyrant. Yeah, yeah. So that's a... And his dad, Sasha Donchik. Let's see, what did he do?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, yeah. It doesn't say anything. We're on to you, Luca. You're on notice. The Slovenians were also not awesome either, depending on the... Speaking of... So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Celtics play tonight. Go Celtics. Football, we don't really have anything. Well, before we transition, we do need a Sixers-Celtics East Coast Finals. Yeah, good luck with that. You've got to hold up your head to the parking pod. Split. So we can split the podcast not along tendency
Starting point is 00:35:20 lines, but along dumb sports lines. Football, I literally don't have anything. literally don't have anything. You don't have anything. You did sneeze, though. Salute. I did sneeze. Bruins are down 3-2. Game 5 was in Carolina last night.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It was hideous, and I don't want to talk about it. Flyers, the lottery was also last night. The NHL lottery. Flyers will have the fifth pick. Their projection takes Simo Niumic out of Slovakia. He's a right-handed defenseman, which is cool because the league doesn't really have those.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's got a ton of upside. He can score a shit ton, but it's the flyers, so he'll suck. Of course. What's your fun fact about the fucking rags? I don't know if it's true or not, but I was getting in a debate with somebody on Sunday in person that the New York Rangers colors are inspired by Rangers FC, therefore are automatically Protestant fascists. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked by that, but the Rangers do go back a long way.
Starting point is 00:36:23 1926. I would doubt it. Because the Celtic, Boston Celtics were inspired by LC Celtic or Celtic, I believe. Aren't they? I have not heard that, but that would be nice. Yeah, because that would justify.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I was having a debate with someone I know who's on you know, they're on the same page as we are, kind of. And I was trying to say what teams you can or cannot support just out of, like, straight up association. I mean, I already don't like the Rangers. Of course.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Of course. And both our cities have reasons they hate it. Well, you know. Hometowns. All right. Where are we uh click i close the wikipedia uh yeah so was the fifth pick the flowers fifth pick thing is that like a lottery do they have a lottery they do have a lottery um the the habs are picking number one overall and then i think the devils and then the Coyotes maybe? Or it's Coyotes-Devils. Jersey doesn't deserve a team.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I have a soft spot for the Devils. I always liked Marty Berger. I mean, he was on that team for 400 years. Yeah, he founded it. It was crazy. I remember that guy when I was into hockey when I was a kid. I was like, oh, this dude's still fucking around.
Starting point is 00:37:43 We don't talk about that. They also fucked up the Flyers a couple times when I was a kid. I was like, oh, this dude's still fucking around. We don't talk about that. They also fucked up the Flyers a couple times when I was younger. Alright, so no more hockey. Let's talk about Union. They're 5-4-1. They're still number one in the East. I don't have anything else to say about that.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Do you have anything to say about the Union? No. We'll do more research we're sorry dupe that's all you get get a dupe out of us I'm trying
Starting point is 00:38:14 to go see a game at some point and bring my father-in-law what the fuck just happened I fucked up something what did I do what did i do i like what did you do all right now i fix it um all right we got two mails today voicemails baby we got voicemails so hopefully they don't shift in pitch um there's like a stencaster has like this unintentional doppler effect I've noticed with the voicemails
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, so it sounds like they're yelling it at you as they pass by Alright, let's go with the first one Hi Tom and Liam First time caller, Mike from Cleveland So, what are your thoughts on Tom Wilson of the Washington Capitals given his reputation as hands-on. On a related note, what are your thoughts on the NHL's Office of Players' Safety and their usefulness?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Have a good one. Thanks, Mike. Fuck Tom Wilson. I don't know much about this dude. He's an asshole. Tom Wilson plays for the Caps, and he is a dick. And he is... Listen, contact is going to happen in hockey. Tom Wilson... Enforcers are in hockey.
Starting point is 00:39:34 That's fine. So I'll start actually sort of at the back and say the Office of Player Safety is at best inconsistent and is at worst useless. And I say this as someone who's a fan of fucking Brad Marchand, like of the Boston Bruins. They are at best inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Marchand deserves the penalties he gets, but they go after repeat offenders, but they sort of let everyone else slide. Tom Wilson shouldn't be in the fucking league anymore. Dude's like Plaxico Burress. Who is the guy on the fucking Bengals who chokeslammed that guy on the Steelers? You know who I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Burfs it? Yeah, Vontaze Perfect. Yeah, that guy. Where he's not allowed in the league anymore. That shit should happen to Tom Wilson. Look, I'm fine with hockey being a physical game. And I'm fine with fights in hockey. But you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:40:28 It's the same shit with the NFL. Either you care about player safety, and you're going to take it seriously, or you're not. And they don't take it seriously. They go after repeat offenders, which is good, but not enough. And they don't penalize guys who they don't think are problems. That's bullshit this is like a like a consistent problem like many in like contact sports which is like selective enforcement and you just gotta hit you had to hit the wrong guy that's that's really what happens yeah you know um and uh yeah you can like
Starting point is 00:40:58 the enforcers are a thing and hockey is not the same sport without them enforcers will always be in hockey. There's always going to be small, fast guys. There's always going to be big, slow guys to back them up. That's the nature of the game. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Don't try and kill somebody. Yeah. But like when you're Tom Wilson and you're boarding dudes again and again and again and again, enforce, kick him out of the fucking league. Dudes made enough money. Kick him out of the fucking league dudes made enough money kick him out of the fucking league well I because I wasn't familiar with him I had to look him up on like Wikipedia and
Starting point is 00:41:32 this the silent hero workhorse behind the scenes of this podcast and his part the personal life section it's like playing size and criticism talks to criticism and then personal life it's like his PR team wrote it. Yeah. Yeah. He's active
Starting point is 00:41:48 in charity work across the Mid-Atlantic. He's engaged to professional beach volleyball player Taylor Pischke. Oh, she's from Winnipeg. Gross. Yeah. And she's blonde. Hmm. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Gentlemen prefer brunettes. Um, that's fine. Uh, yeah. Gentlemen prefer brunettes. Uh, yes, they do. Uh, all right.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And she's pretty about nice and pretty about hair. She does. She does. Uh, yeah, that, that was drunk. Look,
Starting point is 00:42:19 listen, I'm sorry. I'm in love with my wife. We love you. Tom's wife. Yes. Yes, I'm sorry I'm in love with my wife. We love you, Tom's wife. Yes. Yes, I do. All right. And we also...
Starting point is 00:42:33 It's funny because this podcast is delayed. We're recording a little later than we usually do because of a wardrobe malfunction. Hi, sweetie. Yes. Wear better shoes. Yeah. Well, I have one today, too. My pocket ripped open.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And I was like, I had to step up. I was like, can you just double check for me? Can you see my drawers through this or is it just the pocket? They're like, no, you're good. I was like, thank God. We had to go home. But yeah, our favorite yinzer had called in and
Starting point is 00:43:04 let's listen to what he has to say. Hey, how are you doing? John from Pittsburgh. Getting in my call here for you. Disappointing week here for the Sixers. B didn't rob the MVP and then the loss
Starting point is 00:43:19 of the Heat. Tough week for us. But, you know, I literally hear coming out of this season, what your retros are and where we can move forward. One of the give you's is a quick call. Two quick notes.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I heard y'all talking about Stubby Clap. Note, you should look into his backflip. He used to do pre-game in the 2000s what uh he's definitely the alpha male as as some people may call it even though that's a little bit of bs there uh there are no alphas in the wolf pack fun fact it's true uh but um you know as we were talking about baseball players who can fight i always like to say a baseball player's toughness is determined by proximity of your upbringing.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And versus a man that grew up in Miami, probably a little bit of a rough upbringing, released around some rough people, would probably win over a baseball player whose brother played lacrosse. Final note, I know this is a little bit of crossing the streams of podcasts. However, wanted to send some appreciation over to Liam in the Iron Pigs appreciation that he said over to Joe in
Starting point is 00:44:37 the recent Very Depressing and Dark series of the Lions Led by Donkeys podcast. And you should check out their Lehigh Valley Scrapple merch they got going on right now. Anyways, Avion's a good one. Hail to
Starting point is 00:44:54 Pitt. Fuck Penn State. And have a great day. Alright. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Alright. So, of baseball players, who can fight can fight yes i feel like what oh god who's the pitcher who used to be on the red sox and he threw hard at a yankee and then did the like come here hands was it pedro no it wasn't pedro is more recently than that uh it's not chris sale i forget who it was uh let's see i will go he was on the
Starting point is 00:45:29 world series roster um uh i should know this not david price god damn it was it a pitcher you said yeah um awesome redsox season roster. It wasn't Chris sale. Who is a lunatic? Oh yeah. The pitchers are lunatics to begin with. Oh, you know who can fight? Oh,
Starting point is 00:45:53 Joe Kelly. Oh, Joe Kelly. Oh yeah. I understand that he's from Anaheim. That dude never saw a fight. He didn't like, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:02 yeah. Well, he got suspended for like fucking with the Astros after that. I know. Have I told the Bob Gibson story? No.
Starting point is 00:46:13 On here? I have or haven't? You have not. So Bob Gibson, who's, you know, obviously long since retired, played for the Cardinals. He was notorious for
Starting point is 00:46:24 if you dug in your cleats in the box, he for the Cardinals. He was notorious for if you dug in your cleats in the box, he would throw at you. And if you tried to fight him, he was in the golden gloves when he was a kid. It's like either you don't
Starting point is 00:46:39 dig in or you're going to try to fight me and I can box. Nolan Ryan was notorious for being able to fight i tried to fight nolan ryan yeah he had he had fought um uh lenny dykstra could fight um fucking hate that guy uh i'm trying i'm trying to think of who who else um there we might have to revisit this we might have to do like uh best baseball fights i think i think we we should honestly yeah yeah there's a video of uh of uh what's his name now i can't what i just say joe kelly yeah like throwing hard at a yankee and i think hitting him and the guy basically says do you want to fight and joe kelly lowers his stance and does the like come here hands yeah yeah and and
Starting point is 00:47:31 like that yeah absolutely love it yeah because we touched we touched on on pedro uh pedro could fight throwing don zimmer to the ground uh when the episode i think that was a bonus with shocks yeah bryce harper has thrown punches bryce harper has i think despite being a uh a soft boy does love to fight yeah yeah because you do you will get see i don't know if he's a soft boy uh tyler austin tyler yankees he hit him uh yeah i'm trying to get this youtube video to load he hits him with a 98 mile an hour fastball which probably didn't feel too good I can tell you getting
Starting point is 00:48:12 hit with a 60 mile per hour fastball in grade school doesn't feel very good either balls are hard yeah there's a couple that like are just off the top of my head there are definitely some very... The Robin Ventura, Nolan one.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah, we're going to have to actually do this. All right, so... Joe Kelly, I'm watching this video. Joe Kelly, although Tyler Austin gets up, Joe Kelly throws him to the ground and gets a couple of hits in. Yeah. Who was the guy who actually took the bat
Starting point is 00:48:49 up, which is a major violation of the unwritten rules. You take your helmet off and you throw the bat down. Baseball bat fight. Using bat in fight. Google sucks. Yeah, there's a lot of people who are just fighting with a bat.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah, I want to say, because I know, I don't, how do you pronounce it? Ruffed Odor? Ruffend Odor? I don't know how you pronounce his name. Oh, Ruffa, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rogned Odor? I don't know uh i shouldn't very much know how you pronounce his fucking name um he that he there's a you just google
Starting point is 00:49:32 him and it's him punching uh what's his name in the face oh yeah jose bautista and like fucking yeah that is a that is a hell of a hook that is that's sports photo of the year there five thousand dollar fine yes sir you can see the shock wave of the punch going through batista's face that dude can fight um all right what else did he bring up? Philly's won it. Oh, yeah, I just saw that. So, thanks, John. I am going to the Iron Pigs game
Starting point is 00:50:14 soon. I'm going to... Unless Mickey Moniak is on the roster. Is he on the Phillies roster right now? He might be. Is he on the Phillies roster right now? He might be. Is he still recovering from the hand?
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, I think he's back on the majors. I don't know. Whatever. I'm going to be cheering on our boys. If Kingery's down there. I know Matt Veerling got sent down. Oh. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Last week, I didn't follow every single baseball transaction, so I normally do. Oh, the stubby clap. I did put a picture of stubby clap jumping in the notes. Nice. So I'm not sure if you got a chance to take a look at that, but it is a pretty impressive standing backflip. That's pretty.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Wow. Yeah. That is impressive. I would never be able to do that i could be 180 pounds in the best shape my life my body would not let me do that all right so you ready to uh wrap this we're almost uh we're 52 minutes in yeah all right oh but i want to finish answering john's questions oh yeah yeah yeah go ahead uh yeah i mean i think part of it is we need better perimeter shooters uh a lot of this is just you know this series goes a
Starting point is 00:51:32 different way if it beads not hurt uh that's not that's not anyone's that's not anyone's fault that's certainly not joel's fault it's pascal's yeah it's pascal's fault for keeping them in it is it is can take that. You know what I think they do? This might be a wish list. Fire Doc and get Jay Wright with a Godfather deal. Yeah. I think that might be happening.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah. Get Andre Drummond back. Get a backup center in that completely meaningful minutes. Resign Seth Curry and seems going to the finals just a stroke of bad luck and that's why he's the fucking MVP because they win this series
Starting point is 00:52:14 of you South like try try not to lose in the playoffs by 35 points 35 fucking points that that's probably a good idea I mean it's it's I don't think the Heat are a fine
Starting point is 00:52:30 like out of the four teams that are left I think the Heat are the weakest team I think so too and um yeah uh I think what's his name stop playing tomorrow um is it uh Lowry yeah uh all right
Starting point is 00:52:45 are you ready yeah for uh to start wrapping up yep all right uh sometimes
Starting point is 00:52:51 we tell a joke on this podcast yes we do this one's a little more narrative form go for it so uh a father drudge
Starting point is 00:53:01 crusaders football player really wanted to get into the game so the coach said I'll let you play if you answer a question. What is three plus two? And so the player says five and all the other guys on the team start young. Oh, give him another chance, coach.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Oh, I am running low. I'm moving to narrative form jokes that's fine uh yeah so uh fuck the crusades uh listen to listen to well there's your problem bonus episode on the crusades a great episode um thank you that that genuinely one of one of my favorites. I thought it was really good. Thanks. Yeah, so fuck Father Judge. Call into our voicemail, 267-371-7218. Follow us at patreon.com slash 10,000losses. DM us, follow us
Starting point is 00:53:58 on Twitter. I'm Tony Katipin. He's not Liam Anderson. Not Liam Anderson. Not Liam Anderson with the zero because he's and like I said, listen to Well, There's Your Problem. Listen to Lions Led by Donkeys. Jesus Christ. So fucking
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Starting point is 00:54:37 We will. We will punch you in the face if you ask for it. So, yeah. Let's see. Other podcasts. Tr future uh hell of a way no that's it uh come on man the saltics tip off in like three minutes uh uh buy us a boat i need a boat i have a friend i have a friend needs a boat finishing my local recording if you have a pontoon boat let me know know. All right, bye.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And I'm hungry. Yeah, I ate before. We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us, we don't care. No one likes us, no one likes us. No one likes us, we don't care. We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us, we don't care.

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