Ten Thousand Losses - Neocon Turn

Episode Date: November 16, 2025

On an extra-rambly ep, Tom & Liam talk about computers, Mass Effect, and becoming neocons. Featuring YOUR DMs.  Find our bonus episodes and Discord at: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses  Follow us on Bluesky:  Podcast: https://bsky.app/profile/10klosses.bsky.social Liam: https://bsky.app/profile/wtyppod.com  Tom: https://bsky.app/profile/tompain.bsky.social Shoot a message or leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218

He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy is to come to Philadelphia and stand here at Dodge Ice Bowl. We, the Dallas Cowboys, head of assessment, John Cooney. And we're live, and we're spicy. Caliente, watch out. Oh, there's Liam.

There's Liam. There I am. There I am. All right. Like I said, I'm a moi caliente. I'm spicy. You got the burps? We'll see.

I bought ramen with the article with the Prop 65 warning on it. Hey, I know that's I took a picture of the Prop 65 side And Jay laughed at me He's like, yeah, those are everywhere here I was like, yeah, I know You live in California, my guy Yeah, the

The, that's the best Best kind of ramen is the weird shit That at fucking home goods or whatever That may contain lead and arsenic Yeah, there was literally one It wasn't the Prop 65 This one has prop, they all have Prop 65 But there was one

I didn't buy it two weeks ago And it literally said lead may contain lead. Like it was a separate yellow sticker. Oh, God. And like, why would you sell this? I bet you was good. No, they have like, I love like this stuff when it makes it there. It's like, oh, this didn't like hot ones ramen.

I was like, oh, yeah. Jay and I bought hot ones vodka. Oh, God. Yeah, it was it was 755, no returns, no exchanges. Yeah. Yeah, caveat amp door there. Yeah, we've talked about how I don't like spicy drinks, except for like a Mexican chocolate.

I don't like spicy drinks. I like Bloody Mary. No, I mean, I do not because I have weird issues. Like V1 tomato juice or V8. V1 tomato juice. Yeah, so we are making the V1 tomato juice. It's definitely not made with slave labor. and it's the Van der Van Braun's favorite.

Yeah. Yeah. We got the Nazis fast there. One minute, 53 seconds, end. Yeah. That's all right. I got two minutes exact. No trials.

No show trials. Where are you going to do this to me? The end of the day, my fucking redacted. That was a bad. That's not. You're supposed to be a rocky impression. It's fun here. You're just to me to do a slur.

You know what? You try to do rocky. You just don't move every drill. I did it better on the episode because I just watched. So this is the bonus episode with my horrible Rocky impression. It is better than what I'm doing now. But Sylvester Stallone, yeah, half his face is paralyzed or his lips are paralyzed because of a. Are you going to do the

Yeah Because of woke Yeah, he can't do that because of woke Liam also does his only impression on the episode Now I know what that is The Forbidden Impression That's canceled That's cancel

Oh, he's doing the gesture You don't know what it is Um Yeah, so holy shit man I didn't watch any sports sports last week. Don't worry. I can carry this one.

So it's basically Liam talks about sports that I riff. It's fine. All right. So the Eagles won. It was fucking hideous. Get a new OC.

Put us in there. We're going to go right into news without. Oh yeah. We got to do more bans and rants. Yeah. We got to do intro. So Nick Siriani.

I saw something about Nick Siriani and Trump. Oh, yeah. Where he was like, oh, you would be one of a good general. Someone's say shit like that. You'd be a great president. You do...

Are you still there? Yeah, I turned off my camera to say Bambles because you kept freezing on me. Oh, gotcha. He'd be a great president. Remember, I'm in the basement, and I'm... The modem and router are three floors above me. He's a great guy. He's not a great guy.

He fucking sucks. He's Italian. This is how you become a president. This is by being a big guy. I'm a big guy and I don't want to be president. Trump really has been talking a lot. He's on a football thing right now. Yeah.

I think they knew they lost football. He really does, like, one of the amusing things about it. Obviously, we, we don't like them. Anyone who's listed in this podcast knows that. But he is amusing at times. And how he just loves big guys. Yeah. Like he's fucking, what, Frederick the first, like his potstam giants.

He just fucking wants big, hunky, sweaty men with big, powerful thighs. Did you ever see them? And he's straight, by the way. Did you ever, and it's fine if he, hey, it's fine. Did you ever see the video of George W. Bush meeting Fletcher Cox? And he goes, holy shit, man, you're bigger than all outdoors. Boy, what a folksie homespun president he was. Yeah, don't ignore the Ivy League education, but.

Yeah. Guy went to fucking Yale, dude. Shut up. It's like when Ted Cruz is like, oh, shucks, I'm just a backwood's redneck clansmer, but you went to fucking Harvard or Princeton. I can't remember which.

It doesn't matter. Fuck the Ivy League. Pardon for the ashes. I went to fucking temple. Exactly. State college is only for us. Well, no,

I did a year at Drexel, but then I remember why. I have a postgraduate certificate from Drexel, so. Oh, post grad cert. That's better than Roz's entire whatever he took to take it five and a half years.

for just his bachelor's? Yeah. Funny people take seven years to graduate college. You know what they call them? Doctors. Yeah. What does the... I have a master's degree.

So you call me master, I guess? Seven years of... Oh, daddy. Seven years of college down the drain. Might as well join the fucking P's core. I thought you were going to say seven years of slave. I was like, isn't that 12 years of slave? It is 12 years of slave.

Wow, we're doing great. Yeah. I... The delirium has set in for old man Tom over here. Yeah, you know, I was doing a good job reading, like, before bed. Like, I was, like, reading Battle Cry of Freedom. We were talking about that in the group chat. Did we talk about this last week?

No. About, like, reading, reading this book, and he starts off with the Mexican-American War and its aftermath, right? Yeah. And contrasting the views of the slave owners, like, right before the Civil War, and the slave owners like of the revolution because like the slave owners of the revolution are like hey you know it's kind of bad fucked up we're doing this right guys like like like we'll get rid of this and then like they kick it down like they kick the can down the road and then their their sons are like we will have this forever slavery is good actually yes where the white man is supreme amongst all and like Jesus Christ it's fucking like it's literally proto Nazi shit like it's like yeah oh yeah boot on a on the face of a of a of a humanity forever type shit right it's like holy shit we did not we did not hang enough people after the war no not even close everyone everyone from like sergeant on down should have been

hanged yeah and it really does it really does indicate that the failure of reconstruction is why we're in this shit right now it's absolutely true it's absolutely true you trace a direct line to it like if you had eliminated that ideology then like established like a national education program which was like no like these are these are these are are dead ideologies. Espalsing these few points are actually, you know, wrong, you know, and, you know, no one's going to want to talk to you, like, you're stupid. But, you know, now we have guys like Roman statue of PFPs and, you know, trying to get

the N-word in there, their profile, you know, profile names. They love doing it. They love doing it. They, dude, they fucking suck. dude this shit anyway anyway so i haven't been reading my book that's what i was talking about that's all that's how we got there yeah that's how busy i've been i haven't been watching sports i've been reading my book i'm been doing anything i did do map the playing mass effect that was it that's all i could do because you don't need a brain i'm playing syph five so you need too much

of a brain for for strategy games you don't need the brain for a bioware game i i got to think when i play syb because i'm not very good at it actually that's a lie i'm fucking nasty at siev um I'm all right at it I have come to like Civ 6 more now over time I like appreciate it like I think Civ 5 is probably still

the best iteration of the series but also remaster fucking Alpha Centauri make that shit run on the modern computer without like DOS box or whatever DOS box

a blast from the past did you see the new Steam hardware coming out I did I don't know what the price is going to be a lot i mean probably a lot like what two grand no no i think i think it's going to come in at a thousand listen we're both listen we're both pc guys yeah two grand is not no that's why i hear a lot for pc yeah i keep trying to explain to my wife two grand is a good computer listen hey listen the two grand computer that's going to last me a while that's what i keep saying it does listen that fucking how much was that card the

6,800 that you found the deal for me that bought it right away so 400 bucks or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, shit, fucking, like I run everything on Max. It's got like 32 gigs of V-Ram. What's what I'm here for? Yeah. Shit, let me close. I accidentally open steam.

I accessed that point. Hmm. Yeah. Europe or Universalist 5, I was playing that. I can't play that because it's too much thinking. Because of woke Because of woke

Because of woke All right Do you want to do the intro then I guess we should do that Absolutely Hello Welcome to another episode of 10,000 losses The only Philadelphia podcast that exists

I'm your host Tom Payne My pronouns are he him With me is my co-host yay Liam hi I'm Liam Hi I'm Liam McAnerson My pronouns are also he and him Yeah no no guess

You had asked me to do something with guests I don't remember I should invite somebody on Oh, for the next bonus? Yeah, I think so. We got to, I got to do that. We got to schedule football part two, uh, four. Yeah.

After the playoffs are over too. Yep. Um, fuck you. Uh, announcements. Yeah, fuck you too, bud. I'll kill you. Um, what's on the outline? You have to say, fuck you.

Fuck you. Yeah. Uh, the announcements. Announcements. Announcements. Buy tickets to my live show for my other podcast. Oh, yeah. When, when's the live show?

December 15th and 16th Okay Maybe December 14th and 15th All right December 14th and 15th 14th Is that the actual date? No

December 14th and 15th It's like a Sunday and a Monday right? Yeah 14th to 15th Yeah We got on Come see Jay Sate and laugh at him Yeah

Is his last name allowed Uh yeah He's a public figure Okay sure i always wonder you know um because if you said tom pain i'd have to i'd have to kill you oh yeah yeah um yeah i think i should be able to go to the sunday one right see if see if uh what's my wife yeah i don't think my wife is going to go why why does she hate me ask why she hates uh she doesn't hate you she likes a lot actually um it seems you're very funny um um um

She doesn't think you're very funny, though, which makes me laugh. No, but at times she does. When I get her, I get her really good. She's like, oh, you are actually funny. Thanks, sweetie. It's usually when I'm like this. Like, it's some off-the-cuff, just random remark. I remember the time I got her the boast was we're coming back.

We're coming back from a really, like, tiring flight. And we're in Newark Airport. And we go past like the secondary screening room. we just walk past it. Right. I was like, oh, your dad probably knows what that room's like.

And she just dies. And it's off color. And it's not really appropriate. But it's also kind of like she is like, yeah, he does get, he has been in there. I might have to get that one. But I was talking to, I mentioned it on blue sky,

but I was talking to Corinne about this thing I saw. I'm going to repeat the joke. everyone excited to see via seam machine woman you said you had Netflix me this is much better I opened a folder titled movies on my computer and the mechanical warring up an 11 year old

SAT drive overalls the room entirely me have you seen that to the void and then she goes that was our third date and I still slept with you oh the good old you know wines you know of a good old the platter drive and then of a CRT

you could know hey I remember my mom Why is your TV on How do you know You could hear it from inside the You know You can hear it across the The house

Shit's still glowing man Yeah Yeah that weird High frequency noise Yeah Yeah Uh voicemails

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Also So, so in, I don't know what this was in response to, but just like in general, what Cassie Lightning on the Discord said she was going to force feminize me. You would make my wife very upset. So, no thanks. Who's to say, though? Who's to say? I mean, I kind of like being a dude. Yeah, me tell.

Yeah. But, I mean, whoever wants to be, whatever, whatever, you know, that's our stances, whatever gender you want to be. you can be it you can be it um we support you free free hormones for everybody uh all right sports what it would what happened there's i didn't want to change sports well so the eagles won an ugly one in green bay yeah i can see on the group chat that you guys uh friend of show matt and uh this three of us and uh it was blowing up between you and Matt during that game. Yeah, it was really ugly, man.

I mean, the defense looks absolutely terrific. And the weird thing is the Eagles offense is actually pretty good. But, like, I, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it was frustrating where Sequin got some stuff going very late. The Green Bay defense is outstanding and winning ugly, still winning. But like, Siriata made this baffling play call on fourth down with time running out when we should have just like gotten a few more yards and kicked. and he like went for it on like fourth and eight it was for like a end zone it was really weird it was just like okay like that's we won but like it came pretty close to us not winning brandy macmanus uh noted sex past and temple alum uh north pen baby sending their finest

oh that's uh yeah uh i think there was i think there's a mention was mentioned was mentioned in the discord like can't wait for him to leave a second oh that's uh yeah uh i think there was i think there's a mention was mentioned in the Discord, like, can't wait for him to leave so I can root for this team again. Yeah. Yeah, that was, I mean, the Eagles probably, like, we've said from the beginning they're not going to win a Super Bowl.

Jaira Alexander is stepping away from the team, which is kind of frustrating. Jalen Williams looked absolutely phenomenal, like a great pickup from the Dolphins third for third rounder. So Howie season continues a pace. That was terrific. Moving on to the Sixers who blew a

24 point lead to the Chicago Bulls. I watched that game. It was terrible. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, the Sixers, Jared McCain's coming back. They're up and down.

Joel Embed was out the other night. I'm not sure if he's coming back soon with Reni's sorenness. Just retired, Joel. Please. Actually, take all of this Josh Harris's money. Yeah, honestly. Fuck him.

Robin Blind, Joel. Yeah. Fuck Josh Harris. Guy's a fucking creep. Sell the fucking tea. whole you want to own the commanders and the devil so bad you'll fucking do it I hate the guy yeah because he had

he had Trump he gave him 47 jersey yeah oh my god did Trump ever play sports no well yeah I mean golf and tennis but that's not doesn't count like in college no at Penn you think Trump

paid college sports at the university of Pennsylvania that's varsity baby that's D1 you think Trump could play D1 sports Apparently, he played on the football team for one year at the New York Military Academy. That's high school. Yeah. So I played for more years than Donald Trump did.

I might qualify to be president now. I mean, I'd say so. I turned 35 next year. Yeah, yeah. And you also weren't on the Epstein plane. No, I wasn't. You were mentioned at all by Jeffrey Epstein. I've never been a pedophile, actually.

Or technically, the people feel you, or whatever defense they're trotting out now. I can't wait for, like, that's the biggest. No trials. No trials. These pedocons, man. I can't say what I want to say. No, you're up. You can't, but I hear you.

These, are we in the era where, like, technically, you know, she's not seven years old. She's a 10,000-year-old dragons, a seven-year-old spot. Is that like those guys? Why are they getting? Why are they getting, like, mainstream attention? Like, one. I, we had, we had, again, in the group chat. This is, this, you know, this is just, let's talk about the group chat now.

But, like, they're the softest motherfuckers. None of these guys are hard. Fascism is just a soft, is the softest shit ideology. I'm so, I'm so tired of hard, of soft men playing horror man. You know, like, it drives me nuts. Cowards, all of them. They're all, they're all, I mean, they're literally, they're wired, they're scared. That's why they're fascists.

exactly They're just scared And we can beat them in a fight Oh yeah for sure This is my pure The power of moral This is a battle him And the Republic starts at the back of my head

Trampling out the vintage Where the grapes of wrath is stored I'm loosening the faithful lightning motherfucker Terrible swift sword I watched 10 minutes of the flyers yesterday Yeah How that gets the oilers I don't know

I was playing sieve did you did you did you did you like my shepherd I posted did you see him my shepherd I posted speaking the video games what are you talking about my my what my shepherd looks like yes yes yes yes I was like this is what uh a you know a 38 year old commander in the armed forces looks like

not the fucking fuck boy they make sorry you just remind me of video games thank you you know honestly you would I would like that obviously this is like not appropriate for art for this podcast but like to talk about at some point mass effect and an amazing amazing world building it really genuinely is amazing world building and so many cool set pieces and how they fumbled that bag after the first game oh yeah we'd talk about that they just they just you that first mass effect is up there with reading Lord of the Rings for the first time reading lonesome dove like

fucking biking the Appian Way, the Appian Way at sunset. And January, it's like a peak experience. And this is the amazing world that they set up with like, I mean, not super hard sci-fi, but reasonably hard sci-fi outside of the FTL stuff and all these cool things. And then they take this like cool military sci-fi thing and then it's like, all right, we're going darker and edgier. Ammo clips, they're back. Oh, good.

even though we got rid of them, you know, in the lore. And it's like, oh, man. Like, I finished Mass Effect 2 the other day. I'm replaying them. Right. And it's like, this story has nothing to do with the fucking overarching plot. There are some great characters. There's some cool stories.

But it's not. It's nothing to do with the overarching plot of the Mass Effect series. And now I'm restarting Mass Effect 3. And it's back. It's like more. More in line. More in line with the first one. But it's got the best gunplay out of the three.

so they definitely like got that that the action down but um yeah man they really they really fucked that did you play all the games i only played one you know i play one that's almost like a keep it just keep it there you know okay the first one is really really really like it's the it's the roughest around the air roughest around the edges in terms of gameplay but it's the most enjoyable story wise and right right world building wise um and I think they're talking about turning into a TV show. I would watch that. I mean,

people say the fallout show is good. I haven't watched it. It is good. Yeah. Critic really liked it. Maybe if they do focus on quality and they do it well, you know, because it's a cool world. Right. It just, if it's like, I don't know, like you go to the Citadel or whatever and every game has like a sort of cool view where you get the big space station.

you get to view the and there's like this purple light and blade runner kind of style like techno music and the electronic music playing like a low key and there's just like little cars going by like all the sound design is really good and it just looks cool and you can just like sit there and just like damn how fucking sick would that be to actually go there like and it feels like it's a place you could actually go right because it's grounded and yeah it's just fucking electronic destroys everything it touches. They just rushed the shit out of the sequels. Because at first one had a long time to cook. They wanted to get the next, you know, every two years, we needed, we need a sequel. You're a fucking sequel. Right, of course. Yeah.

That sucks, dude. Yeah. They just ruined it. Yeah. You know how like the thread that was going around a couple months ago? Like, if you had like a million dollars, like, what's this one thing you're doing? Dude, I'm, I'm making like a fucking masterpiece sci-fi RPG, but I'm giving, we're doing years, we're spending years working on this shit.

Like a really cool military sci-fi. Because I do like, I do like military sci-fi. It's, it's fucking full of chuds. Of course it is. Like, the writers are all fucking right-wing of shit. But, like, you know, Starship Troopers is a fucking awesome book. Right. I don't know if you've read the book, but...

I have not. The book's cool. I mean, speaking of libertarians. Lebertarians. Um. Tom Paine. Yeah. Anyway, that's my...

That's my thought. Colin, and let me know what you think about Mass Effect. I don't know. I get, I get,

I don't have enough energy to ever like, because I think the whole like video essay thing is a little bit tired. But, man, it'd be cool to write about

video games to get paid for it. I'd read that. I'll never. Dude, I wrote, I wrote under the pseudonym to know,

none of you will ever know, like, when I was really exploring like the, the, the ad effect? Well, No. Oh, I could write that. I have written Smut.

Good for you. Yeah. I've ever published it, though. It was just for my own edification. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just say me and counselor Troy. Yeah, I won't comment what those noises are. Yeah. Clean out the holodeck. Get in there, Barclay. Oh, God. Get in there and some broccoli. I don't know, I don't know, man. Just, I'm ranting a very ranty.

I told you I was delirious. You were delirious, that's okay. I like a good aspirational sci-fi because I think Mass Effect is aspirational in a sense. It's not like Star Trek. Right. Right. Star Trek is aspirational in a way better way. But Mass Effect is still aspirational for like humanity is like cool.

like we are solving our problems but you're still there mm-hmm one last I'll get off this topic in a second but you know what I'm thinking of now

I've mentioned this a couple of time Nova has this like theory of like if she's mentioned it a couple times like airport internationalism like that that form of like hopefulness that hopeful international liberal

that exists only in airports. Right. That's Mass Effect. Right. That's the international, that's the international community, but it's aliens. And that's the citadel is the airport. So it's really, it's sort of liminal in that sense, too. But like, it's sort of like the best you can get out of like a liberal company's.

Yeah. Ideology such that it is. But it also kind of sucks that like, hey, we've worked, hey, we're humanity. we haven't united but we do have like a like a super national government that represents us on the on the intergalactic stage and oh by the way every single other economy is also capitalist like yeah welcome to super earth welcome the hell diver's tail great game i never played i never played hell divers i play it with jay a lot yeah i think i tried to add you as a steam friend and you rejected me i don't think that that's true oh maybe i added the wrong guy

I may not have accepted it but I didn't do it on purpose because I just never look at my Steam Fred request That's okay I don't even know Where do they show up notifications I don't know

I haven't added a new friend This team in like Five years Um Okay So now that we have alienated All of our arc jocks Fuck you

Video game talk Um Oh Nico Harrison got fired is as Mavs DM, which took long enough. Yeah. Yeah. With the Luca Donchitz trade for Anthony Davis's corpses.

Kyrie Irving's dead. Yeah. Yeah. Probably one of the dumber trades in sports history. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think every time I think about that trade, it's like, what the fuck are you doing? Right. Maybe he's a paid agent.

For the Lakers? For the Lakers, yeah. It would be funny if he goes over. to the Lakers. Yes, we had them the whole time. I'm sure that's some sort of what violation of the NBA standards of practices. I assume so. Yeah.

Oh, the sports betting. Yeah, a classet was indicted. Classes indicted. I can't remember the name of. Oh, the manual classet and, uh, I know who he is too Lewis Ortiz Right there we go

Yeah This is like Pretty bad What seems like is going on And then MLB instituted a $200 betting limit Yes With the cooperation of the sports books

That'll fix it That's going to solve it That's going to solve it That'll fix it yeah that'll fix it yeah um it's going to get more and more common it's going to keep happening you're going to have to do something about it like where people people are banging the drum like hey no this is bad and they don't care because they're making money off it same with same with AI um I uh we're hearing more and more um reports of schools pushing AI by the way why

like asking the teachers to use AI the lesson plan. Why? I don't know. I would never use AI for a lesson plan. But anyway, my brain just like, I just went down. I saw like a side path and I just went down that we were talking about betting. It was like, oh, things I also don't like AI. That's a boy.

And you can use it on a computer, so they're like the same thing. Yeah, okay. Fair enough. Hey, why don't we set up an AI chat bot that you just pretend to gamble on? there you go you just pay money because you're never making money anyway right exactly

you do that then it'll tell you how smart your bets are oh man you must be a master of this I can really tell it's genius I'm a fucking king man I got all this um

fucking embarrassing dude I don't know I don't know about this world got to fix it what else was I going to say oh yeah I wanted to pull the image I keep pulling up the wrong thing

all right oh what else yeah go ahead I wanted I wanted to thank metric Mike for the 10,000 losses parking placard and transit card

I feel like we should like actually make those like maybe talk about this off air like a limited run thing for patrons or something for patrons yeah The 10K pass is my favorite one. It has a spot for your name and pronouns, your Discord username,

what level patron you are, what sports you like. And Wayne said, I would literally let you on the train if you showed me this. Yeah, I wouldn't, dude,

the parking placard, no one's going to stop you in Philly with that. I'm not saying use it. It's not legal, but the Philly Police Department won't care about that. You know what? Speaking of fucking driving.

Can I talk? Can I get on a fucking soapbox here? Yes, you can. Okay. So my wife and I, we drove into Philadelphia, the city of my birth, right? On Friday. And we went to see formerly canceled comedian Louis C.K. All right?

It was funny, right? And it, that's where my wife and I first, like, had a date. It was like a predate because we were just friends back in the day. All right. And we also went to a great dinner. So we had a great night. Where did you go to dinner? Luna.

Luna, B-Y-O-B. It's called fucking good. Great pasta. Yes, I see that. Right, right off, uh, right? Right off, right house, yeah. Right off, right house, yeah. Great, great food.

Um, listen, if you're pos, you make pot, like, I, listen, I know a little fucker thing too about pasta, right? You're northern Italian. You know nothing about pasta. Yeah. I know a lot about cheese, though. Yeah. Uh, and wine.

Uh, but no. So the driving, okay. It's gotten worse. Cepta not having as many cars running on the regional rail. Right. Okay. So there's a lot more drivers. Yes.

And it's terrible. When I grew up, when I was growing up, we used to say about, we used to say, oh, New Jersey drivers suck. What have we done, Philadelphia? We used to pretend that we were good drivers. Yeah. We fucking suck. We don't do everything is every man for him fuck himself. Like there's rules to a zipper merch.

If you follow the zipper merch rules, you let everyone, no, I gotta go first. I'm gonna be first. I'm gonna be fucking first. Why do you have to be first? Why can't you let somebody in? People are insane, dude. I completely agree.

Tinted out fucking windows. We've in and out trapping no license plates. What the fuck, man? We said this before, the paper tag or the paper tags. If you don't have a license plate, I don't like cops, we don't like cops. Right. We've been very clear on that. One of the few things I think cops should be allowed to do is if you're driving a car without a license plate, they pull you fuck over with the guns drawn.

I'm actually okay with that. Because you're a danger to people and people can't identify who you are and you kill somebody and run away. Right, exactly. We can't fucking find you. Which happens inevitably, right. And it does happen. It happens like how many times when we have fucking cyclist shit fucking run over by. By psychos driving.

Exactly. And how many times people fucking flip their cars on Spruce Street, just driving fast? Like straight, you're in a straight line and you still flip your fucking car because you're fucking suck of driving. Right. So, we've in and out of traffic. I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to get like, I'm just trying to get on fucking 76. I'm trying to get on 76. Right.

Okay. There's construction or some shit, right? Right. There's signs. It's pointing. Right lane ends. Right lane ends with like three different signs and successions. And they have the cones up.

This motherfucker sees all of us merging into the left lane, goes, oh, dude, all these fucking idiots are fucking going to the left lane? The right lane's completely free. Fuck you, dudes. I'm going to go out. Slams on the brake, slams on his fucking gas, shoots down the right lane. And then, oh, shit, those giant blinking lights. I'm wondering what they mean.

And slams on the brakes before he fucking hits, hits the fucking thing. And my wife fell asleep while we were driving. Not for a long. And I went, ah, you. fucking motherfucker. Ah! You know, fucking wait your turn, asshole.

So, but just still, on 76, two lanes. Just stay in the right lane if you're not passing. Oh my God. Just weaving,

weaving in and out, constantly. You're not getting there any faster. I'm seeing you at the toll plaza. You're not getting there any faster. Right. Sorry. I just,

why are we like this? Why are we doing? What is wrong with us? Post-COVID, dude, it's a degradation of society. I've been saying it. We don't like, it's like social contract asshole. Just totally broke down.

Yeah. I don't care if it doesn't affect me. Like, Oh, you should. We're all in this God forsaken shithole together. Yeah. We used to be a fucking city, guys. We used to be a proper city.

We used to be a proper city. We would make fun of New Jersey people because they sucked at driving. And now we suck at driving. We probably always did suck. But we suck and driving even more. And now, and then this is what I'm hearing reports from New Jersey. We stay in the left lane. And I'm seeing it more and more.

The left lane is for passing. Yes. I, this is really, this is middle age approaching, man. It's really what this is. You're grouchy. Do you want to go to bed, grandpa? He's not like my dad, dude. I know.

I was just, I was so mad. I was literally, I couldn't fall asleep. I couldn't fall asleep to one in the morning because I was so mad at traffic. That's so, I mean, I pulled a gun the other day in traffic. Did you shoot him? Yeah, twice. Oh, nice. So, like, what's the...

Oh, well, they didn't have a license plate, so they can't find anybody. So it doesn't matter, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, you should be allowed to do it. I should be allowed to pull you over with my AR. Get the fuck over! I should be able to do the pit maneuver on any vehicle with... I believe that that's true.

I believe I should be able to. I should be allowed to. Fucking citizens arrest, motherfucker. Oh, my God. Just... I wonder how Karen's going to feel about this. Which is this here's just, fuck you. Can we please just start?

This is my neocon turn right now. That's okay. That's really going to get me. Actually, you know, nation building is a really admirable thing. And the regime change. All right. Here we go, baby. There we go.

Oh, I'm getting the fucking money now. I'm going to be Thomas Paine. Thomas J. Payne. Tom Payne was my father. Thomas J. Payne Esquire. All right, let's do. I got us. I drug us literally screaming

up to the almost 40 minute mark so that we can do DMs. Hi Tom and Yay Liam. This is Sam from Texas giving the pronouns he, they have spin. Welcome. Our national nightmare is finally ending. Nico Harrison has been fired as MAV's GM.

What he did cannot be undone. And like many fans, my trust in the team is still permanently damaged may never recover, and I still hate the ownership anyways. So you have Mavs plus the city of Dallas that sued their arena co-tenants to Dallas. On the surface, it's because the stars have violated a closet release requiring their headquarters being Dallas. However, the stars have been based in the suburb for over 20 years.

Nobody battered an eye. What's really happening is the Mavs ownership is trying to trap the stars in the current aging arena while the Mazz attract all the non-sportsments to the new arena they're planning and are trying to steal Dallas's iconic city. Oh, who does this sound like? Sounds like the Sixers. It does sound like the sexers and are trying to steal Dallas's iconic city hall building to do so.

the stars are their partner considering building a new arena in the suburbs where several cities have called for public elections on whether to leave dart or rapid or transit system and in doing so crippled the funding for the system bleak times even before you consider the national global shit going on i prattle enough so fuck the aughtleson fuck the centristens who caged on the shutdown fuck pen state and one last time for the road fuck nico harrison p.sons old news but fuck jerry jose are trading micah parsons well did you see the poison pill clause that i did see that i was going to bring that up yeah yeah you can't go to philly um I just want to say this. Listen, this is all bad stuff except for Jerry Jones destroying the Cowboys. That's always great. But Dallas doesn't actually – it's not a city. It is – they're all suburbs. They're all suburbs. When you destroy half your downtown for parking lots, that's –

Like Hartford, Connecticut. Yeah. They tried that shit in Philly. They did it a little bit. Yep. The – what was it going to say, too? Oh, speaking of the Dems, did you hear about Federman? Yeah, the fall.

I wonder who's going to finish out the term. Well, Shapiro's going to appoint what kind of ham. Some trash hectares. Yeah. Yeah. John Fetterman dead, please. I'm Googling that in ISIS hospitalized. AI over you.

No, the rumor that John Ferdman is dead as false. Oh. Fuck. Fuck you, Google AI. You've never been wrong. Yeah. So, yeah, Federman. it couldn't happen to a bit to a better guy right yeah all right you want the next one yeah uh hold on

i'm just i'm just i'm a feeling him falling like him what kind of noise do you think he met you know like ogre or the noise the noise the uh fucking troll in lord of the rings makes when he gets ooh I'll just imagine in that. I have smoke on the water second. Yeah. The noise you make when you finally sit down after a long day. All right.

We got Rochine. Roshin. Hey, Tommy, A, Liam. Cavs are 8 and 4 as of Thursday the 13th. It beat the sixers in the game where Darius Garland made his long awaited return. I've only been able to watch one full game so far because of the World Series and a majority of the games this season

being exclusive to Fandul Sports Network. Fuck that. So I guess for another year, I'm stuck trying to follow the major sport least conducive to radio broadcasting on the radio. Dude, we've mentioned years ago we mentioned. Basketball on the radio is insane. It's tough.

It's tough. It's so fast. It's just one guy saying things fast. Right. Guardians news. They've undergone a bit of a coaching exodus. losing associate manager Craig Avernaz to the Orioles, director of defense, base running, and game strategy, Kai Correa to the Mets,

and assistant hitting coach Jason Esposito to Vanderbilt. Replacements to be determined. Stephen Kwan's added a fourth Golden Glove Award and the Left Fielding Bible Award to his hardware collection. And Jose Ramirez has won his six silver slugger and six top five placement MVP voting. They are wasting this man. Yes. But all the players are wasting.

But, yeah, Jose Ramirez is going to be a first ballot hall famer. Stephen Voight or Stephen Vote, pronounce like vote. So Voight, yeah, vote, whatever, has now won back-to-back American League Manager of the Year Awards. Voter absolutely deserves it after navigating the historical division comeback we had, while also down a key closer and starter because they wanted to be accessories to gambling. Yep. Speaking of Ortiz and Class A have been indicted on federal council

Wired Fraud Conspiracy. That's never a good wire fraud conspiracy. I didn't want to do that. Honest Services wired fraud conspiracy. Conspiracy to influence sports contest by bribery and money laundering conspiracy. You guys are fucked.

You guys aren't going to be on the ineligible list. Yeah, you're going to jail forever. Ortiz was taken into custody in Boston on the 9th and pled not guilty on Wednesday, the 12th. Thank you for using pled. to deplete it. I fucking hate that.

Yeah. And released on $500,000 bail. Class A will be arraigned on Thursday the 13th. And lastly, I'm deeply saddened that the shoe wasn't flattened by a gigantic meteor during this year's Ohio State, Penn State game. I was also bummed about that. Yeah. Go calves, go cards.

Yeah, Zoran. Go birds. Fuck the Browns. Fuck Jimmy Haslam. Fuck Antroquomo. Fuck the Vichy Dems. the Senate for Caving, rest in oceans of piss, Dick Cheney, you dead war criminal bitch. Fuck Ohio State.

If fuck Penn State. And, uh, Mrs., uh, Mrs. Mandani, if, uh, you know, things don't work out, you know. You do love pretty dark-haired women. Yeah, she's extremely me-coded. Yeah, she is. Um, all right. Uh, thank you, Rashid. All right, you got the next one.

You got one. Hey, Tom, Yee, Liam. Oh, hey, let me do it with the voice. Hey, Tom, yeah, Liam. I'm waiting here, pronouns he, him. Time to recap the soccer clubs I care about again. Liverpool finally got the shit together after losing five or six and four straight Premier League matches.

They beat, I can't do that voice for a long. Was it good? Wait, I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. No, I'm glad that you did a, I'm glad you didn't accent. No, you made him sound like a fucking sick New York guy. That's what his accent always makes you think of. Ashtonville to nothing that proceeded to beat Real Madrid at Anfield 1-0 in the Champions League.

So it seems it will stabilize them with them headed towards the national break. Celtic, meanwhile, seems to still have a bounce back after Brendan Rogers agreed to resign his manager and the brought back Martin O'Neill's killer taker manager. They responded with winning their first league match against Falcirk 4-0, and then proceeded to beat rangers in the Scottish league

semi-finals 3-1 an extra. They did lose to Danish side, Mityland 3-1 in the Europa League. As for Bohemians, they can qualify for a Euro playoff spot still. The bad news they need their rival Shamrock Rovers has to win the FAAI Cup over Cork City on Sunday. And it's during a week

Rovers are playing a year and B a match in the Conference League. They drew 1-1 against A.E.K. Athens. As for Rutgers, they now need two wins to be bull-eligible. They play against Maryland in the Big Ten-mandated rivalry game. Question mark, question mark, this weekend. If we went, it will mean an all-or-nothing game against Penn fucking State. Also, God, help us all the Dodgers have won the World Series. And baseball is going to have an Earth-Shatter-Strake after 2026.

Anyway, go Rutgers, eat shit, Como. Fuck off, Chiteerrelli. Left-a-Stuff wins, you dumb-ass Democrats. Fuck ICE. and anyone who stands with them and fuck Penn State. I'm Evans. Liverpool lost 3-0 to Man City and Bohemians are in Europe thanks to Shamrock and Remerner's wording the FAAI Cup. So I had to look up, how do you pronounce that Danish word?

I'm not going to try. Moving on. Meti, met you long. Come on. I'm going to do the end of a swalloy. Their logo's kind of sick, though. It looks like a communist bear or wolf. All right.

You there? Yes. He's getting hungry. He's getting angry. All right. Ooh, excuse me. Hey, Tom. Yay, Liam. This is Kyle from Cleveland slash Captain Cleveland. Pronouns, he, him. I only just realized I have an old Discord account where they tried to play Battlefield 6 with my brother. So I'll be texting on here now from now on, as well as calling. First of all, I love that you guys made me sing marching through Georgia out loud at work. Anytime I hear a union or IRA song, I snap right back into Rio. the moment and I sing my ass off.

Hell yeah, dude. In response to your questions about which teams to hold out on, definitely the Cleveland Browns. That is the one team from my beloved city, which you would need to march me into at bayonet point. The guardians are lovely, the calves of a great group, and the monsters have one of the largest followings in the HL, but fuck Jimmy Hasl, man. Anyways, go guards, go calves, go wild, go monsters, fuck the chiefs and fuck Penn

State. Very good. Yeah. One more? Yeah, yeah. Wookey. official the ocean side bombers will join the af one for 2026 and will share the front wave arena with successful iFL team the san diego strike force long time qb coach and san diego local creem morris will head coach thus this phil is a billy's outlaws officially going dormant for 2026 as owner steatisitis has burned all bridges and billiards perceived lack of government help and the metro park arena being a quote shit hall of course he's followed he struggled to find a new home for the 2024 arena bowl champions is expected that he'll relaunch the as in his home state of Wyoming in 2027.

Jesus Christ. This brings the league to nine announced, really, Wyoming? This brings the league to nine announced teams for 2026 with the expected Huntsville Astor's team being the final announcement in the coming week's bringing the total of 10. Anyways, just got home for a shitty day after a holiday at the post office, postman Wookie out. The Oceanside Bombers logo does look fucking dope. Yeah, it's a beat tail with a ball.

That's fucking sick. A ball. That's also a bomb. When you were saying like Oceanside Bombers in that voice, I was thinking of Red Letter Media, whatever, like anything badass happens. They're like, whoa. Like, Osha's high bombers. Woo.

It's so sick. So, so, so, bro. Just going to get pitted. Remember that guy that was on the internet? Yes. That's, you know what? That is one nice thing about being a teacher. He's like, oh, you guys, you don't know the old memes.

Let's listen to the. And you go, blah, blah. And they're like, yo, what is it? sounds like exactly we have funny shit back in the day too um i was old ones i was old ones i was young i was to be cool uh i was a student once and young uh all right let's do shout outs to north catholic tier patrons patron this name's patrick not patrick Patrick, Sean, Mike, Kate, Charlie, Luke, Kyle Kat, Juniper, and Saturdays, Claire. New 700-level patrons are on voicemails, 267, 371, 7218.

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