Ten Thousand Losses - Peeking Under the Kilt ft. Gareth Dennis

Episode Date: November 13, 2022

Get a look under the kilt! 10kL features everyone's favorite Scot, member of the Union of Temporary Replacement Liams, and host of Rail Natter, Gareth Dennis! He was fortunate enough to visit Philadelphia during the Phils' history postseason run. We talk Philadelphia in general, the difference between UK and American sports fans, the Phillies, and answer a few listener messages.  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod  Follow Gareth too: https://twitter.com/GarethDennis Leave us a voicemail: 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses 

accused of punching a police force. CTE, CTE, CTE. Those negative fans. Make himself vomit. Go Bears! Go Bears! you gotta think the fanatic's gonna go down to her and give her a bunch of hot dogs or the snowball starting to come they'll boo us but they won't let anybody else boo us we are live there we go i see go. I see waveforms. Yay.

I like that it's just you two on camera now, and not me, even though Gareth is literally broadcasting from my living room. Yes. I am down here, yes. I can confirm that. And it's at security risk, unlike if it was in your room, with all of the bonds and government information that's on your wall. Yeah,

that's right. That's all the things I have. Yeah. Um, I don't, I don't want to have a webcam. I like going on camera from work is, is my personal nightmare.

Hmm. I'm not, I'm not a big fan of it. Uh, to be honest, I just, I think it helps with like the pacing of conversation, but it's all right.

Uh, yeah, here we are live and I'm saying shit out loud that's going to get cut. All right. So this is allegedly a podcast, but let's actually get started. All right. There's a third voice you might hear on here. That's true. You might recognize him.

With a beautiful Philadelphia accent. Water. Let's go ahead. Water. That's pretty much it. So far, I've got water. Yeah, that's pretty much my Philadelphia at this point. Water.

Water. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. All right. Sorry. That's what I've learned. That's what I've learned That's what I've learned You have to like aspirate the W too

It's like water Nice, okay So there's another voice in this podcast This is a sports podcast So non-linguistics podcast, unfortunately Wait for that to come out The Tom Payne Linguistics Hour There'll be me just talking in

a fake language for an hour i'll listen to that yeah yeah me too wait till my conlang's done i i'm still doing the roots uh all right um shit well you guys are drinking beer i'm drinking beer um we we all we all hugged each other last night. We did. Examples of positive male bonding. Just like the Phillies. We should definitely open on the Phillies. Talk about the Phillies, right?

Yeah. Yeah. So I just wanted, like, before we do the intro i uh i want to shout out well r.i.p mike mike davis absolutely uh reading late victorian holocausts um was a turning point in my life the shots at the professor at community college philadelphia who made me read that and convincing me that all british people evil. So, uh, just where they are. Oh, no, that's absolutely correct. Yeah.

Yep. Um, yeah. The seed of Albion is, uh, this is, is one that, um, one that rots every field has been planted in. All right. So, uh, hello. Hello. Hello.

Welcome to the episode 10,000 losses. The only Philadelphia sports podcast, uh, rights to Ricky Sanchez can blow me. Oh, fuck those guys. Hello. Welcome to another episode of 10,000 Losses, the only Philadelphia sports podcast. Rights to Ricky Sanchez can blow me. Oh, fuck those guys. Fuck their watch party. Yeah. Come do an Ollie on my face. See what happens.

Spike Eskin in your Knicks jersey. I'm your host, Tom Payne. My pronouns are he and with me is my co-host, Ye. Liam. Hi. Liam. What's going on? Yeah. What are your pronouns? and him and then we have a special guest you do hello my name is gareth dennis my pronouns are he and him yeah and you're joining us uh today um not for any particular reason other than that you are

in liam's house i'm in liam's house and it was easier to lock him in the garage to just put a mic on my head. Yeah. We were drinking last night and then I browbeat you in the coming on. You could be exploring beautiful third in Indiana right now. The thing is, right,

I came to Philly. I've come to the US. It's my first time in the US. I came to the US and managed to be here on one of the, like, biggest sports events in over a decade, like sports moments

in over a decade in Philly. So somehow I feel, like, connected to sports despite not necessarily... I wouldn't define my life as a sports human. But here we go. And I feel...

I'm now into sports. Philly has converted me to being into sports. So I'm here. Excellent. Yeah, though, that's... It's, like, that's wild's wild though that you timed that like for no it's very serendipitous it's amazing i knew i was very close to climbing up a lamppost in my kilt but more on that later oh yeah well we got to see what kind of uh you know we got to have you climb the pole so we can take stock.

Yeah. So I got to ask you, though. So you've been wandering about Philadelphia the last couple of days. Yeah. What do you feel about – how do you feel about our city? It's really awesome. The main thing I feel about it is that it's kind of eminently walkable. Okay, there are loads of cars around that will mow you down and turn you to paste. But I've enjoyed wandering around.

I've been all over the place. Yeah, today I was up at Fairmount Park, walked up to Girard Avenue Bridge, and then walked all the way along Girard to right the way over to – basically, I've been walking all over the place. Today was West Philly day. It's good. I love Philadelphia.

Honestly, I had such a great time. That's excellent. Yeah. we were dming uh earlier you were like oh i'm in neighborhoods i'm not supposed to be in and uh but but showing that philadelphians aren't assholes yeah everyone's really friendly i i'm an inherent smiler which uh is probably really annoying. Yeah. I smile at everyone. I said straight like mean mug or regular face and respectful nod. That's, yeah. I can't. My arms flap around. I look goofy.

I smile at people. It's awful. It's just the worst. Yeah. So no one calls me any physical harm. Oh, your accent will disarm anybody. Yeah. physical harm so uh oh your accent will disarm anybody yeah you you're you're uh um i i can think of a lot of of ladies um had you walked into any trouble there would have been women coming out

just to probably a man too but uh a specific archetype of philadelphia woman would have been very uh entranced by you and would would defend you it would have come to my defense and i would have required yeah i would have needed them. 100%. All right, yeah. So, excellent. And just before we get to the content, voicemail 267-371-7218. Give us your name, pronouns,

Patreon.com. Wow. Patreon.com slash 10,000 lives. Fuck. One more time. Patreon.com slash 10,000 losses one more time patreon.com slash 10,000 losses beautiful you can do it in scottish patreon.com

slash 10,000 losses oh lordy yeah i can't i can't do scottish lordy lordy uh so and you got to be like i said you got to be down here for the Phillies

Going to the World Fucking Series And you Not a native Philadelphian Got to be going down climbing poles Showing people your kilt Yeah the kilt is definitely the bit they saw Yeah for sure And I'm stuck up here

In the fucking suburbs And just feeling major FOMO Real millennial hours here. It was pretty amazing being in Center City with thousands of other people. Everyone's screaming and just joy. It was absolute joy. Honestly, it was great. I was loving it.

It's... I mean, Liam, we've been following this team. I have been taking credit for us having to sit through this team we i mean good no you go ahead you go ahead i was gonna say like like if you if if we none of us neither of us said i mean this this podcast is basically a year old at this point i forget what the exact date is but we're on our 47th episode uh we did not predict the Phillies going to the World Series

the fucking World Series what the fuck like it's absolutely insane we did not it's so funny because Brandon had said like oh you believed in them when nobody else and I was like I had to fucking I did not believe in them I had this I had this

I had this belief that we were going to make it into the wildcard that I believed I didn't really sway from that I had my doubts but never like vocally like you know

manifested that in the being but yeah Jesus Christ what a vocally like you know manifested that in the being but uh yeah Jesus Christ what a what a in style as well I know nothing about baseball and it was a pretty stylish

it was a pretty stylish kind of finale to winning it it was pretty good yeah a sort of a sort of energy that like old school

old school baseball heads don't like like when the bat flips and like all that kind of shit oh they hate that shit they hate it so much and it's and it's like a the bat flips and all that kind of shit. Oh, they hate that shit. They hate it so much. And it's a great flair to baseball that makes it exciting. It makes it a story worth

telling, a game worth watching. Everything that's happened, disrespecting Reese Hoskins by walking shorter, then he hits the two-run home run and spikes the bat down just the utter collapse of the fucking Padres just being

like they're good teams but yeah just not being able to it was tense though it was tense because the mud everyone was caked in mud like it was looking like there was the Phillies weren't throwing so well.

And we were kind of like, oh, is this going? Is it gone? But they turned it around. It's pretty good. I lived it through Corinne's joy. There was a lot of love and joy and happiness at that moment. Yes. Her connection to Philadelphia sports,

I think, um, is, is truly beautiful and, and grounding, uh, for Liam. So,

uh, go to hell. I don't know if you read the card yet, but, uh, there is, there is. Oh,

she did. I, I actually have not looked at it. I was too busy being enamored with your birthday card to me. Oh, yeah. Thanks. You're welcome. Yeah, so I mean, I want to say

going to a labor angle, right, as this is a pro-left podcast. Hey, turns out a team spending a shitload of money is good. The Red Sox did this the last time they made the World Series. They won the World Series.

And they did the same thing Middleton did, where they went a little bit into the luxury tax. And they won a fucking title for it. Your fan base is much more engaged and will give you more money if you're willing to spend the money to make deep playoff runs like this. And we had Bobby and Alex on for Tipping Pitches. We were actually kind of dismissing when they came on and said,

you guys actually lucked out. John Milton's not a bad owner. We were playing like dog shit. Yeah. It was. This was back in February. It at that before Cassianos and Schwarber joined. It was. It was. This was back in like February. It was right before the strike was resolved,

I believe. Right. And yeah, and it turns out we were fucking wrong. It's only the first time in our lives. Yeah, exactly. It's interesting.

We had said something about hey if you spend the money on the team you'll make return like for example the NLCS merchandise is the most merchandise any baseball team has ever sold from a playoff second

only behind the 2016 Chicago Cup I can see that behind the team. Yeah. That team has history and, and, and, and a block and a larger fan base.

Right. So that makes sense. Uh, Philly's world series this year, though, that would top that, uh, a hundred percent.

I mean, again, no one expected, we expected wild card, maybe get to the NLDS and lose, um, not going to the most optimistic we were willing to to the NLDS and lose. I think the most optimistic we were willing to be was NLDS and lose. Nothing pumps hype like an underdog story.

That's absolutely the same in the UK. When I'm watching the sports that I do watch, like rugby, and indeed things like the FA Cup for soccer over in the UK, it's the underdog stories that are the best. When Leicester won the Premier League, that was awesome. I don't care about the Premier League, but I became interested because of the underdogs. So the idea that the Phillies have roared

through when absolutely no one was expecting it. Well, apart from people with actually having belief in the team. Most people are like, it's not going to happen. Disease people that say breathless.

So everyone loves an underdog story. There's no harm in merchandising the hell out of that. No. And it just goes to show as much as we do not like the system where this world operates under,

uh, the owner who's willing to open the pocketbooks and realizes that you will make a shitload of money by putting a good product out there that you, it's not all just about a race to the bottom that actually works. And I actually hope that this encourages other teams like the fucking Pittsburgh Pirates who spend jack shit and they're bottom feeders in the NL Central every year,

despite the fact that they have a beautiful ballpark and Pittsburgh's a nice city and all that kind of stuff. Every team should try and be competitive. And you'll make more money. You'll sell more tickets. You'll sell more merch. You'll help grow baseball as a sport. But too many of these ownership groups are seeing the short-term gain instead of the long-term game.

And, you know, I mean, That's what fucking capitalism encourages. The Phillies spending the money, getting a bunch of guys is a great example. But then on the other hand, the under-old story, we're also playing the Trastros, which... I've felt an intense

hatred for the city of Houston over the past few days. Hmm. Yeah. Well, they took the number... Was it Houston or I do an intense hatred for the city of Houston over the past few days yeah well they took the number was it Houston or Phoenix Philly used to be the number 4 city and then we were number 5 now I think it was Houston we're number 6 now behind Phoenix

so Phoenix pushed out the top 5 it's New York, LA, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia Phoenix is not a city No, neither is Houston really Houston's a parking lot Yeah Have you ever been to Houston, Gareth? No, just Philly

Well, no, Philly and Baltimore and Harrisburg Those are my current visited townships All more legitimate cities than Houston Yeah Those are my current visited townships. All more legitimate cities than Houston. Yeah. The Astros, are you familiar with the controversy behind them? No. Go on, lay it out for me.

So one of the things in baseball that's a time-honored tradition is stealing signs. So when you see a coach moving their hands or doing this, it's to indicate what's going on. And one of the things that's a tradition is, is if you have a man on second base, they can see the catcher giving the signs to the pitcher, um, what, what the throw and where, and what the Houston Astros are doing is they had a guy in the clubhouse. So they had like the dugout and then inside the tunnel, there's a clubhouse where their lockers and stuff is and uh or are and they had a guy in there watching the feed was relaying the signals uh via banging a trash can oh no i do know about the trash cans yeah yeah i was corinne told me about the trash cans yes so they're the trash shows and and and they were not punished they didn't have their world series taken away. The commissioner of baseball said it's just a piece of metal,

which is like, it's a fucking trophy. It's the World Series. It's the most important thing. Every baseball-loving kid dreams of playing in the World Series. And, you know, I am just looking forward to the diseased Philly fans who bring in a trash can and start banging it

when they're... Jose Altuve, yes. That short son of a bitch. Yeah, normally we like our short kings, but Altuve... Altuve can get fucked with a brick. No. Swinging a trash can like a

discus. Yeah, odd job style always sunny when uh when the track uh frank reynolds the trash can the trash man i eat garbage i just i just come out of the trash yeah and he throws the lid at cricket and slices his neck open there you go i told you this shit was real. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to this. Absolutely deranged Philly fans.

Please, send us. If you see people with trash cans outside the ballpark doing crazy shit, please let us send that to the account. I want to know. I fucking love that shit. Keep it up. Fuck Alex Bregman, too, while I'm out here. Alex Bregman, fuck him even more.

That, you know, the whole narrative around him being this, like, upstanding, you know, oh, you know, he's battled adversity. Yeah, the adversity of being a cheater. Yeah, as Alex is a Jewish man, I can say positively that God hates the Astros. Oh, man. You know, it's funny. Like every fucking Jewish baseball player, they decide the name of the Hebrew hammer.

It's like, all right, only one guy could be named that. Koufax was a pitcher. It was a pitcher. Excuse me. Fucking Alex Bregman uh was he a rich kid yeah not that he's not that he's uh i was parents of democrats though so maybe he's okay that's what look at this dad owed a team lead team. That actually makes me laugh a little bit. They're both lawyers.

Yeah. The bar for baseball players is here for white baseball players. It is so low to just not be like Kyle Schwerber on the Phillies. It's like, well, he wore, during the George Floyd protests,

he wore a sheriff's hat, but he did wear a Black Lives Matter shirt. So he's OK. We we we we are fans of people who are not that great. Although, again, we love our caked up boys. I mean, Bryce Harper, JT Bermudez. If we met guys without those opinions at a bar, we would get an argument. Like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like JT Bermudez would get an argument like JT Romuto would be someone if I knew personally I would

fucking hate I could just tell from his fucking face but he hits baseball hard and he's a fucking good catcher so singular tater after he got hit in the organs of matrimonial necessity during the game yeah thank god for cups

oh yeah just one tater Romuto necessity during the game. Yeah, thank God for Cups. Oh, yeah. Just one tater will be enough. Just one tater. Yeah. Just tater. Just tater. Shit, I don't know. Do you have anything

else on the fightings? I'm really glad they gave Rob Thompson his Just Dale. He signed him to a two-year contract. else on the on the fightings i'm really glad they gave rob thompson his just his just deal yes signed him to uh what a two-year contract uh yes i i i was very pleased i know they did that a couple weeks ago we've been sort of off a couple weeks so i was i was very pleased with that uh yeah i think this this team is genuinely a lot of fun to watch uh bryce harper has been electric uh there's a new core memory which is gareth walking up the stairs of my house to call his wife who was probably asleep and uh harper coming to the plate you know and fouling off fouing off and then him just absolutely brushing that pitch knowing what he had

just done corinne collapsing to the floor and then jumping you know in in joy and relief and uh yeah so go phil's fuck the astros burn texas to the ground yeah i'm gonna i'm to insert my audio here that I recorded I also fell to the floor popped up, get it, get it get it Nick, make a sound of your career the last record of the world series the last record of the world series 13 god damn years

13 god damn years go fellas I'm going to pass out 13 goddamn years! 13 goddamn years! Go, fellas! I'm gonna pass out! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! We did it! We did it! The Fight-Ins are going to the World Series!

We're going to the World fucking Series! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Woo-hoo! Woo! We took the fucking penny uh because i was having a hard time breathing because i was yelling so much i was like yeah it sounds like tom almost knocked himself unconscious

in delight uh that happened three times at the game i was at too at the end of the s clincher. I was screaming so much that I was like, holy shit, I got to sit down. I don't feel so good. I didn't know I could do this. Happy pens at the ready, fingers steady, here we fucking go.

Oh, man. I also want to say the other thing that's really funny is this Phillies team is also playing like no one can beat them as opposed to like I don't think they necessarily feel like the underdogs they quite literally are and I think they know that in the back of their heads they are playing just

absolute like I said just fun ass baseball we are playing in the World like I said, just fun-ass baseball. We are playing, in the World Series, the best team in the league. The Houston Astros is the best team. I bet they feel real stupid about that. Congratulations, Philadelphia. It's not an out.

So here's my kind of noob question. And maybe this is, so to everyone out there who's listened to this who maybe isn't fully up on baseball, now's your chance to learn some things. So the type of baseball that the Phillies were playing is that quite, like, it looked, so with rugby, I remember when I used to watch rugby a lot,

England were a kicking team. They just kicked and it was really boring. They didn't do any set pieces, they just kicked and it went back and forwards and back and forwards. And I'm sure that every sport has that style of play, you know, like, that every sport has that style of play, you know, like has the equivalent of that style of play. So the Phillies, they're playing exciting, energetic.

Is it like traditional style or is it modern style? What makes it really energetic and interesting rather than boring? Oh, they refuse to play defense and that's what's bad about it. Yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. They constructed this roster around guys who can just hit home runs. Okay. And when they can't, they either walk or strike out. It's called like three true outcomes.

So like the first five guys are like this new school, just hammering, just slapping donners. Yeah. We always enjoy slapping our donners. Yeah. Just slapping them all over the field, slapping frozen ropes. When you say it like that, I don't like it. When the pitcher tries to pound you inside and get you real uncomfortable because of how much cheese he's throwing inside. Oh, there we are.

You open up a little bit and then you just slap a frozen rope the other way. Sounds nice. Yeah, Yeah. Sounds nice. Yeah. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, sometimes you get the second base, third base doing that. Ooh. Or in the case of JT Bermudez,

he scored a home. He got all the way to home. All the way to home run. Yeah. All the way to home. Yeah, inside the park. No getting off a hay market for him. That's it.

There may be some people listening to this that understand that reference and they will be British and probably Scottish. We have to have you announcing a game where you're doing the British football announcer voice but to a baseball game. Because that's a certain kind of... I would totally watch that.

Go on. I was going to say, there was a while where Thursday Night Football on Amazon had Tommy Smythe or Smith and some other guy from the UK doing the NFL. And I was like, holy shit, the way they're describing the game, it's actually way more interesting. Yeah, it's poetic. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, we's poetic. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, we need to have that for baseball.

Or just have the Spanish language guys who just yell like... Velazo! Ceballos! Ceballos! Ceballos! Yeah. The thing is,

I end up defaulting to Alan Partridge if I do any sports-related stuff. It's like, that man has a foot like a traction engine. Back of the net. stuff, it's like that man has a foot, like a traction engine. Back of the net. Yeah, that's it. That's,

that's what I think. These are the sex players. Uh, yeah. Oh yeah. Um, that man has football pie all over his shirt. I don't know what to do with that.

Watch Alan Partridge. If you don't know what that is. British TV is good. Most, well, some of it. That's like not the 9 o'clock news. That's really like old Partridge as well. Oh, we're going into the deep lore. Sorry, everyone. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

I grew up on like British TV and like public television because I didn't have cable growing up. So, because poor shit. have cable grown up. So, uh, cause poor shit. So I had to watch PBS, the,

like the public and they would show a lot of reruns of like shit, like father Ted. And yeah. So, um, what's his Irish? I know, but you know,

kind of the same thing. Fuck Graham Linehan, but, uh, it was good. Father Ted is actually good. Graham Linehan. Again,

I've said this on the pod before I was was blocked by him because I DMed him and said, I'm glad that Dermot Morgan and Frank Kelly died before they knew what a bigot you would become, and he blocked me. So I knew he fucking, I knew that fucker read it. Yes, that's good. He read it. That's nice.

You just know that that will have crushed him. Yeah. Oh, message request? Let me look at that. Blocked right away. I knew he saw it. Good. But to go back

to what you were saying, yeah, the Phillies are not playing the traditional old school baseball. Although, I'm going to say the bottom half of the order

kind of does play the traditional contact, stealing bases. Because our Casillatos can catch now. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah,

I don't want to fall into any stereotypes here, but I actually do, I did watch and did play cricket when I was a kid. I'm Scottish, so cricket's less of a,

like kind of less of a thing in Scotland than it is in England. But I did play cricket and I'm watching it. And I suppose it's similar. So you can play

defensive cricket where you're just basically kind of angling the bat down and deflecting every time and picking up maybe one or two runs every now and then rather than just absolutely swinging buck wild on it and aiming for the rope. That sounds quite similar

like just in terms of what's more entertaining play because sure you might win the long game with a defensive style but it's not entertaining sport. Unless you're diseased like I am which I will fucking I will be like holy shit it's a entertaining sport. Yeah. Unless you're diseased like I am, which I will be like, holy shit, it's a pitchers matchup. Super Bowl 53 was the greatest one ever played.

What was that, what, 13-7 or some shit? Yeah. 13-3. Oh, God, that was awful. I loved it. I like defense, but that, holy God. I just loved the Patriots just making everyone unhappy. Wow.

Sorry, I massively sidetracked us there, but... No, no, no. This podcast is very sidetrackable. I mean, fuck it's me. When Liam's the one who has to keep us on track, that's when he knows there's a problem. Yeah, that's bad. I'm also very bad at sidetracking, so yeah, Liam.

Yeah, I'll make you do this. very bad at sidetracking, so yeah. Liam. Yeah. I'll let you do this. What do you call three white guys with ADHD? Podcast? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Alright. Thank you. That joke was a real home run.

So in news, you got the wrong Celtic in here, dumbass. It wasn't Jason Tatum? No, it was Jalen Brown. Oh, Jalen Brown. All right. Jalen Brown.

All right, let's shift over to our favorite topic, anti-Semitism. Yeah. So, uh... Oh, my God. So Kanye West yeah holy shit

see as it turns out called Don DeSport's named after his late mother uh Jalen Brown up until yesterday was signed to it he after Adidas announced the cancellation of their deal with Kanye West

yeah or whatever his name is his name is I will call him, his name is yay I shouldn't be disrespectful of that he can eat my shit so yay sports agency, yay made some very anti-semitic remarks

on a podcast Adidas canceled their deal with him but a couple people sort of stuck it out, I guess to see if anything was coming and to be fair adidas waited far longer than they should have to cut the deal with him uh speaking as a jewish person uh antonio brown though has announced that he's going to stay with donda sports even though i don't think antonio brown has a job right now so i think he's the president of Donda Sports, actually. Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's... These are very well, you know, mentally healthy people. And actually, I don't mean that disparagingly. I mean, like, these are people who actually do need, like, some, like... I mean, someone needs to put their armor and yeah i'd like actually provide him some support i also take the cocaine away from him

yeah yeah it's not good he's he's yeah i mean talk about hanging your ass out like kind of like like it's um i mean it's definitely like something that's part it's, it's, let's try, try and navigate this well. Like, you know, there, there's been some weird, there's like weird, like currents in, in some aspects of like hip hop, um, especially the origins of hip hop with like the five percenters and, and, and sort of nation of Islam, black Hebrew, Israelite sort of stuff. Kodak black baby and and there's there's a far for far be it for me as a white dude to tell like black americans what the fuck

they got to deal with in their communities right i'm not going to fucking tell you do anything but you know there is some anti-semitism going deal, guys, you folks deal with that as you feel like you need to deal with that. Brett, like... It was interesting. Some of the stuff on Twitter was interesting. We're sidetracking again, but I found quite interesting was that there's, you know, in terms of anti-racism,

there's been a lot of solidarity, rightly so, over the, like, his horrific, you know, his anti-Semitic comments. But he'd made some pretty dark comments. Some of the stuff he said about slavery a long while ago was really bad. And so

I'm a white British guy. The amount that I know about black struggle is frankly very, very limited. So I follow a lot of people on Twitter who I listen to and pay attention to what they have to say. People of colour. And there's a lot of discussion of why who I listen to and pay attention to what they have to say, people of color. And there's a lot of discussion of why has it taken this long that he's now dunking on another – he's working his way through. He's now dunking on Jewish people when actually there were some serious red flags being raised when he was talking about slavery, whatever that was.

A year, two years ago now? So yeah, it's like a downwards trajectory. Really not good. Someone should have been helping him a long time ago. I'm not noting that a lot of people stood by him when he was saying shit that is at best classified as anti-black racism or internalized racism.

And it does I think suck that black people who raise concerns and point it out like hey this is not good especially the MAGA shit weren't really taken seriously uh yeah and it took

sort of this to be listened to um but yeah fuck Kanye West fuck Jalen Brown for taking so long fuck Antonio brown for staying with it although antonio brown doesn't have a job um fuck uh andrew johnson for having um william sherman which said in the order of confiscation of plantation land distribution to uh to freed slaves uh that would have changed a whole fucking lot of shit in this country

we had just taken care of people who had nothing instead of just letting the fucking slave owners have their plantations back and continue basically the same business, but via sharecropping and Jim Crow laws. So also, fuck

that, because I'm a diseased history nerd. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm diseased history nerd. Oh yeah. So, I mean, it sucks. And, and, and,

um, yeah, it's, uh, yeah. Sorry, Liam. Yeah.

Your, your people have suffered enough. I'm sorry. It's just, it's, it's, uh, yeah.

Um, I don't know if there's anything else you want to say on that um no i'm not not a special one um and uh i don't want to spend too much time like recapping sports shit uh the sixers uh have not got off to a good start they stink um surprisingly so um that sucks they won i guess the pace is pretty convincingly so that sucks they won yes the Pacers pretty convincingly so they the Pacers have the same record one in three so they just be you know gotta get together yeah I don't know I don't know how much of a basketball guy you are Gareth or even if it hasn't much purchase over in the UK I know like Italy's and turkeys or, Turkey are both big. A bit, there's always.

Croatia, Serbia. There's a certain, yeah, yeah. There's always, there's a certain type of guy, and I've got a very good friend who's a big into, actually he's a big Packers, he's a big Green Bay Packers fan, which I realize is a totally different sport. Yes.

But like in terms of where I was going, the reason I bring that up is because there's, there is a certain genre of guy who's like the British guy who's really into american sports and uh it's not a favorable stereotype let's put it that way not because not because it's bad not because it's bad to like american sports but because it some some of those people and uh james i love you you're not one of these people if you happen to listen to 10k losses which i may encourage you to do anyway um james isn't one of these people but like some there are some

english guys particularly English guys, who are really big on US sports in a really dickish way. And it's kind of like, you feel a bit try-hard and a bit, oh, you know, oh. Okay. Yeah, no, it's the same as the American guy

who's way too into the Premier League. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, Liam. No offense, Charlie. I feel like Liverpool. Yeah, no, no. Do they still have Mo Salah? I literally have...

Yeah, Liam, go on. I got to pronounce it right or I'm going to get yelled at. I think I can name three footballers in the UK right now. So, yeah, there we go. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone listening. I yeah, there we go. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone listening. I'm on a sports podcast. Yes, that's right.

Okay, I just got a weird pop-up. Oh, sorry. No, it's not your fault. It was... Oh, pop-up. I thought you said pop-click. I was like, what have I done? There's Microsoft Defender antivirus to not find any threats. That's good. Yeah.

I'm clean guys. I got tested. So practice safe computing. All right. I'm recording again, but feel free to tell me, tell everyone how nice I am. Yeah,

that's, that's not being recorded. My Tom, my, my compliments to you are not being submitted onto permanent record there. I'm so sorry. Yeah. You have to get me on again sometime.

Yeah. I'll do the, yeah. All right. There he is. I'll do my bodybuilding pose for everybody. Um, uh, shit. All right. Yeah.

So we have, uh, a couple of voice calls in the mailbag. Uh, we have someone calling from the moon apparently. Um, so I would like to go to Jacob first, who's on Earth's only natural satellite. Hello, Tom. Yay, Liam. This is Jacob. He, him, calling in from the Big Four's moon colony on the Pacific Northwest. on when this next episode comes. But I have in front of me a prepared statement

for the vile Houston Astros and any of their supporters bullish enough to have purchased a plane ticket. When you step into the shadow of the mountain, you will find no mercy. Your hopes and dreams will be shattered and cast into the sea. We did it once in 95, and by God, we will do it again.

Yeah, go on, Jacob. Having gotten that out of the way, Kraken's playing tonight. Go Kraken. Fuck Penn State. That's all I got for you. Beauty. Go on, Jacob. Yeah.

I'm not. All right. for you. Beauty. Uh, Jacob. Yeah. Uh, I'm not. All right. I'm going to, I'm going to hang my ass out here. What is he referencing from 95? Am I that dumb? Big four moon colony.

Yeah. Houston coming up that way. My, uh, am I, am I missing something? I don't know, man.

I don't know, but he's, he's, uh, he's, he's, uh, bringing Jacob back as being a good name.

Yeah. I do have to appreciate the Conan the Barbarian-esque, you know, what is good in life. You know, to defeat your enemies, see them driven before you hear the lamentation of their women. Yes. But sports. So I'm cool with that.

I'm cool with that. Yeah. So thanks, Jacob. Thank you. We don't know what the hell you're talking about. Okay. Is Houston playing the 95 World Series? Because I don't think so.

They were second in the division. So, in NFL now? Oh, it would have been the Oilers. Yeah. I don't know I got nothing man let us know next is our Philadelphia Union

update from Charlie from Roxborough not that Roxborough our Roxborough in case you were confused Gareth alright Charlie from Roxborough, in case you were confused, Gareth. All right. I don't know if you can hear this.

It's Charlie from Roxborough. You need to go to the conference finals on Sunday. Charlie, you have 100 points back in the top. He's a real swap. Get these out. We're going to win the winner of Montreal and New York City FC. This Sunday, between three games, Absolutely indecisive.

Wonderful. Yeah. So Philly beat Cincinnati on the conference final, or the semifinal. So they're going to the conference final, playing rematch of last year's match, which I did watch. It was a good match. Philadelphia versus New York City in the Eastern Conference Finals. So hopefully they can beat the fucking New York City Football Club, whatever their fucking official name is. There's two of them. I think it's just

NYCFC, which is an okay name as compared to Inter-Miami or Real Salt Lake. Yeah. So, thanks, Charlie. We appreciate it.

Yeah, don't go to jail. Yeah, stay out of jail please uh and go uh fuck it you know what fuck it go union uh it's the 30th the same time the phillies are playing um on sunday the 30th so um maybe uh soccer matches are pretty quick i guess compared to baseball so maybe i could watch one and the other at the same time. Yeah. All right. So we have three voicemails from Bobby.

Wow. From Bobby. Wait a minute. Before you play them, I'm going to go pee. I'll be three seconds. I'll be 30 seconds. Sorry. Sorry.

Sorry. I'm being Ross right now. That's all right. We do this too. That's all right, pretty much. Just a sec. We do this too. Constantly, pretty much. Just a sec. Alright. Let's talk shit on Skyland

right now. Oh, yes. What is there to... I don't know. I mean, I guess William Longshanks did nothing wrong. Skyland is sovereign English clay. I don't sit right with me. No, no.

Do you remember the guy on Twitter who was saying that like Ireland had it coming because of the dollar? Yeah, I got an argument with that guy. Yeah, you're a dumbass. If you listen to this fucking moron and every let's let's talk about

like the fake cop accounts. Yeah, fuck you, dumbass if you listen to this Fucking moron Let's talk about the fake cop accounts Yeah, fuck you, dumbass That was definitely the Temple University Police Association president Sock puppet accounts With fake generated And then insults like Your mom wears army boots It's like, holy shit

It means your mom's a lesbian That potentially works as a cut point I'm back And that's why at the cut point I'm back yeah so anyway um that's and that's why um Robert the Bruce um is problematic so um anyway we were just we were just talking

talking shit uh uh airing grievances um anyway Bruce is a good guy it's William Wallace you want to fucking talk shit about he's basically English fuck that guy yeah the worst insult in the world

basically English it's funny it's like because I'm kind of an Anglophile and Liam's definitely a Francophile but I'm also an Italophile so that's even worse that is worse You are right

Yeah, mi piace Italia Mi dispiace That's a beautiful country Run by fascists Run by fascists I can't wait to go there in winter And see fascism Yeah, you get to live there

Yeah, that's literally why my grandfather my great grandfather came here is like uh this muslim guy i don't think he's very good probably should get the fuck out so oh that's a that's a jewish instinct oh i can sense that things are going poorly yeah well uh my italian side are all pale redheads from the north. So they're definitely more Germanic than Italian. Yeah, they're more like the Lombard kind of thing going on. So maybe, well, I mean, not on that side, but I do have like a medieval rabbi that's linked into my genealogy.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. All right. Bobby, let's go. Yes. Bobby, I'll tell you what hey tom yay liam this is bobby from western maryland he him pronouns and you know i'm too you know i can't think of anything to ask you other than liam given that you're a Boston sports fan, other than the Flyers, which Philly sports team do you hate the most?

Really interested in that. And, yeah, thanks for giving a fun left show that talks about sports. It's something I've needed in my life. Thank you very much. Great show. Go Petco. Go Red Sox. Go Terps.

Go Wizards. Go DC United. Fuck the Yankees. Fuck the Bears. Fuck Penn State. And hey, Jim, fuck you. Yeah, fuck you, Jim. I like Bobby.

I like Bobby too. This is a Bobby positive podcast absolutely we stand for Bobby positivity well Liam do you have an answer for Bobby I absolutely fucking do and it is the Sixers it is the Sixers

as you know I genuinely out and out hate the Philadelphia Flyers I wish them nothing but ill especially who can suck the shit out of my ass. I truly don't. I like, some days I like the Sixers. I essentially like

the Sixers, except when they're playing the Boston Red Sox. Boston Red Sox. That's an interesting game. I want to see that. Basketball. I want to see Christian Vasquez try dunk. I would like that a lot. You'd watch that.

But yeah, I you know, I like Joel Embiid well enough. I think he's I think you sort of love and hate Embiid in equal measure if you're a reasonable person. But yeah, I don't appreciate the arrogance of sixers fans

i don't think they have anything to show for it i don't think it's a reasonable arrogance uh i think most sixers fans are probably bad people um myself included is corinne in the room no she's not actually okay but i you know and this is not necessarily about her, although it does... Oh my goodness. I love my fiancée. I genuinely do. But her misery does bring me some degree of great joy when it comes to sports. Hearing the lamentations of their women,

that sort of thing. Of your woman i guess my woman specifically i suppose yeah i don't know i just i don't like i just don't fucking care for the sixers i don't care for the arrogance of sixers fans i don't care for the like oh boston's not even that good when it's like well we made the i i think what it truly is is that i i hate the process we're like i i hate the process i i think that it was an example to the worst kind of people on how to run a sports team uh i you know in the terms of losing is actually good sort of weird ass like uh double think basically uh we're both on the same page of the processes it

was it's stupid i still haven't given it did you deal with ttp yeah you knew me uh shut the fuck up again fight me spike eskin come out spike eskin come out fight with your fucking nicks t-shirt your fucking poser i will literally only use one arm like i don't give a shit who your fucking dad is get the fuck out of here. I'll fight your dad, too. I will absolutely fuck Howard Eskin off. I bet Howard Eskin could probably fight a little bit. He probably has taken a couple punches his life.

Although he did shut up when Charlie Emanuel did tell him to shut the fuck up. He shut up. When Charlie was like, I'm going to hit you, he did shut up. Self-pres, when Charlie was like, I'm going to hit you. He did shut up. So self-preservation is important. I suppose.

Yeah. Um, yeah, it's absolutely the Sixers. I don't, I, I, I have trouble respecting that team on a daily basis. Um, I'm going to have to, uh, I'm going to put something in the chat here so that, uh, um, our friend, uh, Gareth here knows who the fuck we're talking about Spike Eskin? well no the other one Howard

I might not be good in a fight as a human but I make a really good weapon just swing it grab the feet swing me around absolutely here's what Howard Eskin likes that's the Howard Eskin drip Just swinging it around. Grab the feet, swing me around. Yeah, absolutely. So here's what Howard Eskin likes. That's the Howard Eskin drip.

Oh dear. Yeah. Why has he got so many animals sellotaped? Oh, that's a whole animal right there. Oh dear, I don't like that. Or his trousers are so high up. Gotta wear my trousers very high, Very high.

That wasn't that bad, actually. No, it wasn't. I came across really good on the recording. I was going to say, yeah, the recording, it sounds really good. I get it high that my balls, they're not very big. Okay, so I got to wear my pants up. Makes the balls a little bigger. You might not really try trousers. They're balls a little bigger. All right. You better wear the trousers.

They're not that high. Might are better. Yeah. You got a little Marilyn Monroe there. Yeah, a little Marilyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Happy birthday, Mr. President. Yeah, I like that.

What's going on there? That's a hell of a combination of human that we do not want to see. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah, don't draw that. I'm sure there's something out there. Get that prompted in one of these weird AI things. Let's see. Don't draw that. I'm sure there's something out there. Get that prompted in one of these weird AI things. Let's see.

That's a fan fiction. JFK comes back for the dead. Fuck up, Donald Trump. I've watched that. That's my girl. That kind of sounds like JFK. No, I haven't. But Charlie, do kind of sounds like JFK uh no I haven't

but uh like Charlie do your best to let JFK do what you do mine's okay if I know what I'm saying I can't riff on it that well yeah uh we gotta wrap this bitch up uh how much time

we got not well we were supposed to start recording uh problem at 6. Can we do 10 more minutes? Can we get this done? Yeah. DM the chat then. My phone's upstairs. I can't do that. Alright. We're going to do

Bobby number 2. This is Bobby from Western Maryland again. See him pronouns. And I realize that I'm a complete idiot because I completely just didn't say what I called for. I wanted to call in and answer the question that no one ever seems to answer. What would you do with Pete Rose's penis? I would use it to put in the wood chipper first. Would it be attached, though?

That's the question. That's reasonable. Thank you for calling in. He called in again. Here's Bobby, number three. This is Etienne. That's not Bobby. That's Etienne.

That's not Bobby. Let me... I like the see wood chipper I was thinking he was gonna go with firelighters

but uh yeah okay we like to think outside the box here yeah so actually we're gonna go back to Etienne because there is

no Bobby number three okay so this is Etienne he him I mean like I've called like a billion times so

this is a response to like another caller who asked about their favorite baseball lore events. And mine, I'm going to tell you, I don't even watch baseball. But the moment I started to hear or read about it, there were two hilarious scandals. Number one, these pitchers started to use like glue or sunscreen or tree staff or whatever to have more grip on the ball to get more spin. Yes. And then like six months later, there was this other thing where the league started to change the balls to a different composition and then there was a scandal where people were saying that the league sent different balls

to different games because allegedly they wanted to have some games have more home runs because they wanted to weight the number of home runs that some pitchers were having. And then there was the other thing that I read, which is basically the dirt that they put on the ball,

which is the responsibility of one specific guy who knows a specific spot on a river. The Delaware River. It is behind Teddy's Island. That he can sell to the team as an exclusive contract to rub on the ball to make them just the perfect

texture for the pitcher. Take the machine off the ball. I knew nothing about baseball. The first thing I hear is three completely batshit stories about equipment tampering.

I find it's beautiful. It's perfect. And I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The baseball rubbing mud, like I said, it's Philly. It's Delaware River mud. It's behind Petty's Philly, it's, it's, it's Delaware river mud.

It's behind Petty's Island, like Rancocas Creek area. Um, people have seen the guy gathering the fucking giant buckets of mud. So it's not that big a secret. Um, they rub it on the baseball to take the sheen off from the factory. Um,

I, yeah, that's, it's been, it's been like for many many many decades at this point uh a thing um so yeah um i like to think that like untreated wastewater shit from philly uh making it through is now on every baseball and then when they like lick their hands you know they're getting like you know fecal coliform bacteria so it's it's great mmm delicious all right

uh so uh let's wrap this up I want to say um shouts out to the Newcastle Patriots

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do not follow me. But if you are interested in transport, and in a way, there was transport earlier because, you know, if you invest, it becomes good.

That's nice. And then you can find me on Twitter, Garethis on twitter and uh yeah you've got a um uh podcast yeah you can listen if if you're interested in in uh transport with a uk and left uh perspective then uh you can you can get involved but uh lots of people are guests uh it's it's We do get a not insignificant number of downloads from the UK. So what's it called? It's called Railnatter. Go search for Railnatter. You'll find it.

Hello to everyone who joins. Yeah. Well, speaking of joining, patreon.com says 10,000 losses. We're going to have a bonus with Raz pretty soon. We'll let everyone know when that comes out but yeah go listen to Rail Dad or go listen to Well There's Your Problem they'll be recording that next after they cut me loose because I've been on too many times

and I might be stealing everyone I'll be more popular than ever so there are three Liams on this right now there are three Liams there's two guest Liams and a real Liam. It's Liam one is Liam, Liam two and Liam three. Yes.

Yeah, exactly. All the Liams. There's some deep lore for the crossover listeners right there. So, yeah, listen to our other friends' podcasts. Go listen to, well, Lions Loved by Liams. Go listen to Serious Grit. Listen to Trash Future. Lions Loved by Donkeys. Go listen to Serious Grit. Listen to Trash Future. Lions Loved by Donkeys.

What else am I forgetting, guys? Oh, the full extended universe. They're all there. Rail Natter. Yeah, go listen to Rail Natter. And... Excuse me. Beautiful.

I think with that, we'll say goodnight. Adieu. Ciao. Ciao. Say bye, Gareth. say goodnight. Adieu. Ciao. Ciao. Say bye, Gareth. Bye. Bye. Adieu.

There we go. We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us, we don't care. No one likes us, no one likes us. No one likes us, we don't care. We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us, we don't care.