Ten Thousand Losses - Sad Boys

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

Tom discovers the soundboard but that can't prevent him and Liam from getting the big sads about the Eagles. Also, hear us talk about a  message from the Oracle of Delphi, pin all extant hopes on MVBIID, and otherwise dolefully discuss the sports events of the last week.  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Leave us a voicemail: 267-371-7218 Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses

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are also my pronouns we're doing great we are doing terrific uh yeah everything's fine we're all fine here yeah uh all the bright side I mean, I should have brought a drink upstairs, but I didn't like an asshole. Oh, shit. Well, the listeners will know. I don't know if you know when you snuck off last time to use the restroom. Could you hear it? No. But as I was reading State of Revolution, I did.

I did put in the Soviet anthem. And I timed it as soon as you talked it shut off you are so funny and everybody likes you you uh uh fuck oh man terrible yeah yeah uh this is what happens when you let me edit the podcast that's fine um and i found i've discovered all of our little we have all these like sound bites like that oh you've you've you've i i should not have given you the keys but uh all right um all right you know that joke was a home run. Thank you. I'm trying to find I was scouring the internet for bad

zingers to play that would sound like, you're listening to Jimmy and the Alligator on 99.9 FM. WTYP FM. That already sounds like a radio station. WTYP 69 FM. Home of the rock. W-T-Y-P-F-M. Because that already sounds like a radio station. Yeah, W-T-Y-P-69-F-M. Home of the rock.

I'm stealing a David Cross joke there. That's fine. Yeah. You're listening. We got the zaniest sports news for you today. Do we have zaniest sports news other than the fact that, well, we'll get to it, but our beloved Eagles pissed and shit all over themselves. Shitted and farted. College football's over, so I have nothing to watch on Saturdays.

My beloved Boston Bruins got destroyed 7-1 the other day. That was pretty fucking embarrassing. My beloved Boston Celtics are in the toilet. won the other day that was pretty fucking embarrassing uh my beloved boston celtics are in the toilet uh joel m bead is not of this earth ben simmons can go to hell uh that's our podcast bye everybody yeah yeah goodbye uh let me uh play the uh the north catholic alma mater on the way out here we go all right stop stop stop all right i'll edit that out maybe yeah uh we've got uh in terms of announcements i do have one to make which is that uh roz was supposed to join us today but could not uh so this month's bonus episode it's probably going to be kate wagner from of

mcmansion hell talking about the post jordan Bulls. We will have Roz on probably in February. The band is just under a lot of pressure right now. Yeah. So, please continue to give us money, and sorry about that, folks. Yeah, I mean, it will come out this month, so you can't

complain. You can, but please don't. Oh, I mean, I'll just tell you to fuck off. So far, I have only gotten super nice... I've got to say, thanks everybody. I don't know if you've gotten any messages. I've gotten a couple

DMs at this point. One on the Discord. There's your problem, Discord. Just nice messages. I feel like I have things to talk about with my dad now and stuff like that. I was like, Oh,

Oh, we're helpful. We're helpful. Wow. Yeah. So that was nice. I haven't got any like shit. Like,

no, people have been, uh, people have been nice to us by and large. That's nice. It's a nice feeling. It's, it doesn't feel right.

Cause we're assholes. So, uh, yeah. Well, what are you going to do? We'll just hop right in and talk about the mailbag. We got the mailbag. Yeah, we do got the mailbag.

And I figured out how to play messages. So we're going to play the voicemail for today. I do have another one, but I have to do some research first because it involves a sport that doesn't exist in my mind. So let's do the first mailbag. Well, the only one for today. All right, let's see if this works. I'm just some guy.

I just caught some fumes in the garage so i'm on some oracle adelphi shit right now eagles and bills make it to the super bowl uh no uh alan gets hurt trubisky gets coveted and the bills lose a fifth super bowl when they start nathan goddamn peterman go birds go question mark. I'm Ron Burgundy. So there's unfortunately a couple of things wrong with that. Yeah. I, I thank you. Yes. Peterman is not on any team now from the bills and went to the Raiders for like three years. Uh, and they ended up, uh,

his contract expired a few days ago he was released and then signed to the practice squad Gruden sang his praises before Gruden got shit canned yeah Peterman is not so good at football

I don't know who the Bills third stringer is obviously the scenario can no longer come to pass since our boys didn't do so good. Depth chart. Let's see. Who's QB3, baby? No, they don't have a QB3.

It's just Josh Allen and Titty Kissing Trubisky. Ah, you stole it from me. God damn it. I mean, that is something. Didn't we say this on podcast before it's like Mitchell Trubisky loves kissing titties he does love kissing titties and that's the official stance of our podcast

that we everyone does he doesn't yeah literally everybody does everybody does we're all got children in the dark I won't give any fodder for the inevitable fan fiction that comes up. Yeah, it's coming. I've already seen stuff. People talking about certain people being cuddly teddy bears on the subreddit.

There's a subreddit? Which subreddit? Not the one I created, which has no posts on it. Not for what was your problem uh i'm lowering myself into the reddit tag hang on um there's there uh there's definitely some like i want you know i wonder if somebody uh you know is very cuddly you know is it r? Please tell me it's Roz. Yeah. He doesn't like being touched by and large.

Yeah. I guess it isn't... Never mind. I'm not even going to say it. I'm not bringing it up. No, go for it. No, I'm actually not say it yeah uh i'm not bringing it up no go for it no no i'm actually not because it's something private but uh don't yeah i can't even say it without saying what it's about so i'm not gonna do it but like yeah try not to be creepy about people like like they're

humans so it's weird reading things about people i know yeah no um so, but though, although I did say, I did say this on Twitter, you know, if there is a Tom Payne, a Facebook group or something out there, we're just adoring, you know, I said women,

but it can be anybody. I mean, I'll take, I'll take fandom from anybody. And it's solely for the purpose of my wife can laugh at you. This, this, this sub has 961 people and it's solely for the purpose of my wife can laugh at you um this this this sub has 961 people and it's restricted god damn it only one person only one person can post and i asked them i said are you the person who does the uh the tv tropes page and updates it they never

got back to me so give that's oh god yeah i need to get the hell off this uh yeah just close it close it it's gone it's gone it's gone um uh yeah all right uh yeah episode ranking and shit yes i fuck them yeah all right let's uh let's let's do uh let's talk about them go ahead that's good but i just want to thank the Oracle of Delphi yeah thank you I hope you have come back down to this planet Jesus Christ I mean they have kind of

I mean because Oracle of Delphi that was like figured out to be or supposed to be like carbon monoxide or some shit like that right cool volcanic fumes um or car fumes and yeah so we'll do the we'll do uh we'll do the cricket one next week because i have to look that up and i cannot not delay any longer uh so a moment of silence for our fallen eagles. Yeah. You know, I'm saluting right now.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. Hideous fucking game, man. That was not enjoyable to watch. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't fun at all to watch. It was very frustrating.

It was boring. My wife literally fell asleep. I made it into the third quarter, and it was 31-0, and I was just like, I don't need to see any more of this. Yeah, I don't blame you. It was, you know, normally I will, if they had even before 31-7, I would have kept it on, but it was just nothing doing. And the thing is, it was not a, it was a winnable game. Yeah. I mean, we'll have to start somewhere, but, you know, it was a game full of questionable play calling.

Questionable penalties. Yeah. But also. A team that looked horrifically overmatched. Yeah. I mean, it was I was thinking during the game, I was like, even if you take the ref ball out, and there was ref ball. Oh, yeah.

You know, if you take the ref ball out, this team is, at least one of the things that I still believe to be true about Sirianni is he has this weird tendency to beat himself. Yeah, and he did he did he you know i i understand i mean we'll get into it but one of the takeaways the few takeaways i have are that i don't i'm not i'm still not you know even on the in the worst moments i'm still not like negative on jail it hurts like I don't think... I get...

I know you tweeted from the podcast about putting Minshew in, and I wasn't opposed to that. That was some kind of frustrated cries. Yeah, cries to the gods for

insuffocation. Hurts definitely looked overmatched. Sirianni looked overmatched. Our O-line looked relative. I mean, they were getting to Hurts constantly. Our defense needs to, I don't know what he's having to our defense, but most of it needs to be gone this week. Uh, it was a slightly different take on defense, but, but go ahead.

Oh, no, I'm willing to listen. I, the thing that kills me is just like, it was mistake after like easily preventable mistake after easily preventable mistake after. And I put, and I think I put most of the blame on Sirianni himself. Sure. I'm really hesitant to put it on Jalen. I would have to put some of it on him because he looked overwhelmed. He looked nervous to me.

He didn't look composed. And the play calling for the first three quarters, it was like, okay, we can't run, so let's just try and pass. Why are we not getting the ball to fucking Devontae Smith? I mean, that was one. That, that, that's another thing. Yeah, the play calling

was very questionable. So, you know, my biggest issue there with the Eagles offense is the play calling being not playing to the game plan that's won us the games that we won, but being

this sort of, we start out the game trying to to pass and i think that teams have caught on on that to that and we tried to run it first so we kind of flipped that script but as soon as it what it didn't work on the first you know was a was a you know was a thrown out yeah and like I get it the Bucks have a very good run defense like but even so like you still have to establish the run at some point

like we know that Nick Sirianni fucking knows it and they established it in the fourth quarter right it's just and I you know the problem is that like i said i mean i just i didn't understand like it was it was so one-dimensional where i get having a safety blanket and i don't mean that as an insult because brady has gronk rogers has uh what is it uh davante ad Adams uh yeah you know uh Mahomes has Tyreek Hill

you have a safety blanket that's fine right I mean Mahomes did that interview where he said sometimes it'd be like that after seeing a meme that was just him saying fuck it Tyreek down there somewhere and launching it. Right. But like, I, I, Dallas Goddard, Dallas Goddard, who dropped. Yeah. A couple of passes.

And, uh, I know I'm sort of all over the place, but why don't we, why don't we talk about the Eagles? Why don't we talk about the bucks offense and sort of just go down this list? So, so my, uh, you know, putting on my analyst hat here, um, Eagles. Why don't we talk about the Bucs offense and sort of just go down this list. So my, you know, putting on my analyst hat here,

my Ray Dittinger face mask that I carved in his likeness. I just saw the Bucs offense, which I don't think you can say was really firing on all cylinders. I don't think you can say was really firing on all cylinders.

I don't think you can say that either. And so I saw their offense. Especially early, because Brady was overthrowing and underthrowing, and the Eagles sort of just weren't taking advantage of that. Right. So my sort of thesis statement, maybe I should make the thesis statement about the game first, which is that the Bucs took advantage of the Eagles lack of offense and giving the ball away in inopportune times and places to score to to get scores that were fairly easy to get. And so that's why I'm not blaming the defense as much. So the fault is on the defense.

The defense did get four sacks in. We should say that. Yes. They sacked him. Four times, which is pretty good. It's hard to sack Tom Brady. It's hard to sack Tom Brady. It's hard to sack Tom Brady. Not blitzing.

Not blitzing very often. And so that's my thesis statement there. It was the lack of ability to maintain consistent possession of the ball on the offensive side that led to opportunities for the Bucs offense. Right. And, you know, it would not have been 31 if there wasn't the rigor myth punt or the interceptions. So it would have been much more manageable. So. So. So for the Bucs offense, there was a lot of opportunity there. Yes. Take take three touchdowns away without opportunity. Right. Now you have a much more competitive game. Right.

They were able to exploit the weakness of our linebacker core i think we talked about too we talked about during the game it looked it looked i mean that's what brady does that's what he does best is those sort of 12 yard passes over and over and he loves to do it he doesn't have a cannon arm but he can get that ball out so fucking quick it doesn't matter yeah the thing about brady that will probably i mean he obviously is is the go as much as it makes me say is that he is he he's got such like you know he does all the mental math about who's open so fast right and and then he throws a short accurate pass and he was finding you know you got you got their guys slanting up 15 crossing crossing middle

crossing middle crossing middle against our linebackers who are the size of most teams defense defensive backs right so that was being exploited runs up the gut we're being exploited although we kind of did adjust to that um so but that's what that's what got them their their touchdowns i mean uh i think in an alternate universe like you know like the idea of like quantum death yeah yeah yeah so for those who don't know it's like you die but your death you don't actually it's like you die but your death you don't actually experience your death like if you ever had a near-death experience like there's another split universe where you actually died but you you can't exist in that universe

because your conscience anyway so in a quantum death scenario where uh fucking what's his name barnett doesn't. Idiotic penalty. And he hasn't all year. Doesn't get that rough in the passer call, which was bullshit. We will. We should say that the entire momentum of the game would have been flipped. And listen, what was it? A bullshit call?

Because he clearly is trying. He's actually not trying to hit it. You see him visibly slow down. Yeah. And he backs off. I mean, he goes over and picks him up. Right. Brady himself has said that basically defenses can't play the game anymore.

Yeah. I mean, I believe that to be true. As someone who occasionally played DB, like it's hard to be a defender because like, that's not going to get called a lot of the time if it's not on tom brady i'm sorry right no it's not brady yeah yeah it's it's tom brady i'm like if that's where the rest ball came if that's jalen hurts that doesn't get called no no not at all um so so that's that's rest ball there um but in another universe that didn't happen, the Bucs lose momentum early. We get a quick touchdown.

The defense holds on. No one gets nervous. Everyone's pumped up. We don't get the turnovers, and we might have won that game. But when I saw that happen, in my mind, I'm like, this is the turning point already in the first fucking quarter. Oh, yeah. I will say Barnett has been racking up penalties all year to the point where there was a video of Nick Sirianni saying it's always fucking him. Yeah, he he needs to chill. I don't know what it is. You know, like, is it is it.

Because he's not a horrible lineman. I don't know if he just gets too amped up or that's just his style of play. He's just run downhill. But he gets neutrals on infractions all the time. I don't know. The Bucs offense wasn't phenomenal. Their O-line definitely wasn't phenomenal. They were getting beaten in four-man rushes, enough that there was consistent pressure on Brady.

We just let the game get out of hand too early. Yeah, exactly. Do you have any comments on the Bucs offense before... That's it. We need to just take the whole

linebacker core and put them in the trash yeah honestly and like there are games you're gonna lose and there are games where like but like you know like if there's anyone you can game plan for it's a guy who's been in the league since I was nine right like you know what he wants to

do he doesn't have a cannon arm you know where he wants to hit you wants to hit those quick sl. He wants to hit those quick midfield crosses. Yeah. Like you need to be absolutely like bunching the slot. Basically, you know, we're talking about defending midfield to the slot receiver, who's like the third-by receiver, versus sending all your defensive backs back to play like pre-man or cover four type of defense, which is designed to stop the big blow-up play. But the thing about Brady is that he doesn't need to throw it downfield stop the big blow-up play. But the thing about Brady is that he doesn't need to throw it downfield to find the

blow-up play. He finds the guy open in the middle. He finds the guy open in the middle who then runs for 15 yards anyway. And boom, it's a 30-yard play. Because if you have two guys open in the middle, he's going to find the guy who's for somehow, in his brain, he's doing the Rain Man math

thing. Yeah, the beautiful mind shit. Yeah. And figures out, oh, he's doing like the you know the rain man yeah the beautiful mind shit yeah yeah um and figures out this he's going to be favorably matched up and and that's and that's tom brady's like that's literally why he's so good yeah and him him and and rogers can just process it yeah

i'm just faster than anybody else yeah yeah i mean they're just so goddamn fast. Yeah. I wonder what their IQs are. I don't know. I imagine their Wonderlic results are public. Are they public?

I mean, I don't know for certain. No. Inside, do you remember Madden when you used to take... They had like a superstar mode. They have like a creative player now it sucks ass but they used to have one where you like you played your career uh back in the day like madden 0506 and you had to take the wonderlick yes uh i was like this is this is what they actually have to take this is easy as shit um but uh you know oh you can try it apparently.

Uh, uh, Oh, let's, let's do it. Maybe we'll, uh, apparently Brady scored a 33. Carson went score to 40 though. So what's, what's the max 50, 50, uh, fits magic score to 49, but he went to Harvard. So yeah. Yeah. I remember here.

He's one of the smartest guys. There's someone else who was also one of the smartest guys. Pat McNally scored a 50. He was a punter and wide receiver. He was in the 70s. Yeah, I was going to say, that's a name I haven't heard in a very long time. Apparently, Tua scored a 13. That's bad.

Yeah, and like most standardized tests, there's probably some sort of shit in there that makes it racist. Racist, yeah. like most standardized tests there's probably some sort of shit in there that makes it um you know racist racist yeah um anyway so back back to uh i guess i guess we could talk more about the eagles offense then uh to kind of putrid where where you were going uh and you didn't you so you didn't watch the fourth quarter at all no um the fourth quarter it was humming it was the eagles offense that we know and love right with our sweet our sweet precious boy our five foot five

King Boston Scott like truly like like diving diving over and I'm going to buy a Boston Scott jersey a dead man has no fucking just no fear in him yeah he does not care yeah he's also he's

five six by the way five six i'm sorry uh our five foot six short king we love to draft a man we love draft and some dude who's like uh kenny gainwell's like five, nine. Dude. He's another guy I love. And, and that's, and that's, you could see the guys who want it. Like the guys who really got it. Like,

you know, Boston Scott wants it. He wants that. Yeah. Yeah. And he, and he wants, and he wants it because he wants, you know,

I don't know, team player, whatever you call it. Like he just wants it. And he powered us to a playoff berth like two years ago, too. Yeah, he's always been the guy that, like – Puts the city on his back. He really does.

He truly does. I mean, Philly legend here. Kenny Gainwell seems like he's going to be that kind of guy. I mean, that dude, I don't know what his contract situation is, but he better be back. He actually should just take over punt returning as well. Yeah, God. Because you watch

him return kicks. The thing about Gainwell is he's really like lanky. He's able to work, swim his way around stuff. Like a shorter arm guy. He's able to, like, work, swim his way around stuff that, like, you know, like a sort of, like, you know, shorter arm guy.

He's very dexterous. Like, he can change speeds real fast. I mean, it's kind of like Devonta, too. Right. He just moves his body so well in space. Yeah, like really, really good. Very skillful at it. Yeah.

Yeah. And finds ways to get a little extra yard here or there. So he definitely should be... I mean, you look at his kick returns when he does take it because he's smart and he doesn't take it when he doesn't have to. And put him in his punt return because, you know...

So the Eagles offense, we already talked about the penalty. We were not... We did a three the penalty. We were not. We did a three and out. Tried to run. We tried to do sweeps. We tried to get real cute. Yeah.

Yeah, we tried the sweeps. We tried the. What was. Why can I not remember the name of the play? Like toss. We tried a couple of tosses. Shovel passes. Yeah, shovel passes.

But nothing really. It's like we were avoiding running up the gut, like doing a zone run or anything like that, or power. And they just abandoned it. And they just were throwing, like had Jalen Hurts overthrowing guys, like the worst of Donovan McNabb it was just actually it reminded me of Donovan McNabb

against the Bucs back in the day the it was I think it was a divisional game against the Bucs where it was like he threw one deep on the James Thrash and it was like six inches out of his reach and it would have been a game winner yeah I don't

yeah to I mean I really don't know like the other thing we need to talk about is we need to cut like I'm sorry like I said I think this team has given Jalen Rieger every possible chance they have

to get him and they need to cut him and that sucks but the dude and I'm not really interested in the like well he's body language this and that because none of us are body language experts but just based strictly on performance on a football field he is not an NFL player sorry

even though what's his name was it Chad Ochoacinco yeah defending him did he change his name? Was it Chad Ochocinco? Yeah. Defending him. Did he change his name back to Chad Johnson? No, it's still Ochocinco. So, Mr. Ochocinco there is talking about,

oh, he just needs another year. No. On another team. It sucks. It sucks, yeah. That was not a good draft pick. No, it sucks but it sucks yeah that was not a good draft pick um no if you know it's it sucks if you could make howie roseman uh only handle trades and signings and take it away from him the ability to draft this team would be fucking oh 13 and 4 every year absolutely yeah oh definitely

yeah just just make him just just just have draft picks against some other guys. Absolutely. He can't draft. And it really makes you worry because we're going to have three, right? Yeah, three first-rounders. Yeah, three first-rounders. And that's a really good chance to get like a linebacker, a cornerback, a wide receiver. Yeah.

I mean, they need a draft defense. Yeah. Absolutely. That's one of the things we need to talk about is this team. This defense is way overpaid for what it can accomplish, I think. Yeah. I mean, defense defense-wise. The pass rush is fucking horrible, I will say that.

31st in the league. 31st in the league. I'm a little more bullish on their overall defense than I think you are. But, you know, Fletcher Cox is done, I think. And he's a Philly legend. Yeah. But he's done. We need to. Hargreave looked fantastic this year.

Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely. Keep him on. I don't know how many years Barnett's got left. He's a free agent this offseason. Okay. Depending on who's on the market, you might want to look at someone else.

I wonder if there's a stat like war when baseball wins above replacement. If there's a stat like that for football. With war, wins above replacement if there's a stat like that for uh football because it's like with war you can figure out like hey this this guy's actually making us lose games and you know because baseball season's so long you know any negative war in baseball is usually

pretty bad like because you're because a replacement guy is supposed to be fairly neutral right um you know so you'll have players like dd gregorius i like negative war it was like 0.7 or so he was responsible for losing games oh that's yeah um whereas whereas whereas someone like bright star first war was like if you took him away you'd lose like 10 less games there is football war but uh only pff does it and i'd have to pay for it so uh so fuck that all right uh yeah so shit um the linebackers i mean we could tackle some of those linebackers um yeah ua line they're not they're not because you think linebacker, you think like 6'2", 225, 250, and just like pure athlete. Right.

But like a brick house with like 8% body fat. That's what you think of linebacker. And there's a reason that stereotype exists because you need to be able to stretch out for the run, but also be able to just slam down runners. We don't have dudes like that. We don't have dudes like that. It's almost like we have – you would think with our linebackers. We have Alex Singleton, who I do like and I think is a decent linebacker. Yeah.

He's like your weak side linebacker. Yeah. You would almost think we have a 3-4 defense. Yeah. Where you can have two kind of small – like a weak side guy is a little smaller. An inside guy on the weak side is a little smaller. But like – yeah.

I don't know. I put in the notes that the defense did its job. Like I feel like – I mean getting four sacks on Tom Brady the notes that the defense did its job. I feel like... I mean, getting four sacks on Tom Brady is commendable. It did its job. We still need some help. I mean, we need a real good

safety. We need another defensive back. We need a linebacker. There's a lot that could be improved. I was – I mean, Jonathan Gannon gets a lot of shit. Well, she should. I think a little – I think like maybe a little too much.

But I think this game overall was the offensive offensive and it in some way special team because rager did not myth just one punt i don't know if you're aware of that yeah um he he he miffed another one but was able to recover it but with horrible field position. Right. And that, that miffed punt. I mean, he's doing it a lot. Like constantly, I mean, constantly,

I know it was windy, but man, like to the point where like, every time I see him back there, I just suck down air. I don't know what's going on with the dude. And we support players. We support labor,

but like, when you find something else, we're going to do. Yeah. Give him a, you know, we support labor, but like when you find something else for him to do. Yeah. Give him a, you know, I don't, if, if I hope that he can find employment on another team, like I, I just, I don't want him on my team. And like, I'm, like I said, I'm not getting into the bullshit that people have done with like, Oh, you can see his body language and he thinks it's never his fault. Cause I think that that those criticisms are never applied to white players it's

that's all racialized sort of he he looked pretty upset at himself after that punt so if you think that he didn't you know shut the fuck up you don't know what you're talking about this is a dude who has to he knows he's playing for his job and fucked it up and that's not a position certainly I would want to be in. Oh, no, no. And having been in that position in my life, not playing, but, you know, I can tell the vibe. I'm on my way out if I don't fuck, not fuck up again.

Yeah, exactly. It just makes you fuck up more. Yeah. No, I get it, man. Do you want to talk about you guys got anything else um i mean just a play calling we already kind of touched on that let's turn it up like i said at the beginning sirianni was clearly just wildly overmatched and some of that comes in time i mean no one expected this team to get into the playoffs and we'll talk about if we should wildly overmatched. And some of that comes in time. I mean, no one expected this team to get into the playoffs and we'll talk about if we should have been there in the first place.

Uh, I think we did. I think we did deserve to be in the playoffs and I'll base this on one thing, which is that if you look at one score games, yeah. If every result of a one score game had been flopped, the flip flop, the uh flip flop the eagles

would have been 11 and 6 okay okay yeah i mean there was a lot of close games yeah so that was one of the one of the things i saw people were saying i was like ah we all got you know you got your typical sports radio caller you know uh it's just a schedule that's all there's no reason why we got in there is that they go uh the nfc she's a sucks so so what if it sucks got it getting in and still getting in man you got in giants did the same thing in 2011 and 2007 and won two super bowls off it you know i think i think overall it's a good sign for a team that was expected to suck ass and to be in a rebuild year, maybe to the playoffs.

I mean, posted a winning record. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's like a positive sign. Defense needs to improve. We need, you know,

a big wide receiver a big fat even if he's slow a big bruising wide receiver we need another tight end yeah i mean devonta is very good but he's like your route guy yeah he's like you're doing it like uh I can remember all my route names where you like zig a little bit. But, you know. And Quez Watkins is a steal and I'll die on that hill. Yeah. Quez Watkins. I mean, running back wise, I literally don't feel like we need, you know, with Sanders, Gainwell, and Scott, and Jordan Howard,

I think that's completely – I don't feel the need to chase anyone, especially not this year, unless there's someone really good. That's where you come in with your college football knowledge. I don't know what the first round looks like. I mean, I've read some mock drafts. There are some exciting guys. Let me bring up the mock draft and argue with it. NFL mock draft.

Where's Mel Kuypers? There he is. So we have picks number god 15 16 and 19 barring trades so uh this guy has devin lloyd who's a linebacker he's not his interior inside linebacker out of Utah. Yeah. Uh, the, the birds, the last time they took a linebacker in round one was 1979. Uh, but he had eight sacks and four picks last season.

Uh, he's, he is fast. He can play, he can play off ball, which they need. Yeah. So that, and then Arnold, I'm going to fuck this up.

Ibukedi, he's a defensive end at Penn State. He was at Temple. He's a Temple boy. Oh, there you go. He had like nine and a half sacks last year. So I think they probably need edge rushing help. Edge rush,

pass rush, all that shit. They need it. This dude seems to have it. What's his name again? Arnold Ibiketti. Ibiketti, Italian? I don't think so. He's Italian to me oh i'll tell him oh

he's from cameron uh so he can be friends with joel and bead yeah oh dream team all right but but he's now an official italian so he's arnaldo eichetti. You know, like awesome. Squisito doing the chef's kiss right now. You can't see me because it's not a visual podcast. But yeah. And then we have Chris Olav out of Ohio

State, who I did get to watch quite a bit this year, and he is fucking fantastic. He had 35 touchdowns in four seasons. He's 6'1", so he's a bit bigger, which he is fucking fantastic. He had 35 touchdowns in four seasons. He's 6-1, so he's a bit bigger which I think they need. And considering this team has... Do we still

have JJ and Carol Whiteside or Dura Whiteside? Or Orsega Whiteside? Orsega Whiteside, my fault. Or is it Orsega? I can't remember. Yes, we still have him. Yeah, we have him. That's another bust. Second round.

And not the Mitchell Trubisky kind of bust. Two catches for 39 yards and no touchdowns through 16 games. Yeah. Why don't we watch this game, man? Yeah. As we're watching the this game, man? Yeah. As we're watching the game, I was like, I'm going to change teams. I was like, I will divorce you.

You do not change teams. I'm sorry. The pain is what makes us feel like we're alive. I came from being a Patriots fan. And I would consider myself now more of an Eagles fan than a Patriots fan. And that's the dumbest decision I've ever made. Yeah. She doesn't have a choice.

Cause she didn't grow up watching football. Then she married me. I, I just, why do I do this to myself? Yeah. So that is going to be back. Please.

Someone take the draft room controls away from Howie. I'm begging you. We're going to draft a whiteout I've never heard of who went to some D2 school in Kansas. He's going to be like, this is great. The projection says that he's got really good tendons

in his hands. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. He's got that tendon that half of us are missing in our fingers. He's double-jointed. He could

catch the ball backwards or forwards. Yeah, but he's 5'4". He could flex his pecs. He's just going to get run over. Yeah, you know. He's 5'4". He's just going to get run over. He's 5'4". Yeah, you know. God. It's like a baseball guy. He's got potential.

You know, it's like tools versus potential. I was like, how do we draft a guy who can actually hit the ball already? Please. It's the Phillies for years. You know, like, let's draft a guy. You know, his swing needs some work. He's like, what's his name? A major league. He can like, what's his name, a major league.

He can't hit a fucking curveball. But, you know, there's a 30% chance he might fill out his frame. I hate shit like that. Just pick the kid who's good already and then go from there. Someone who's solid like i just my hope and it is that my hope is that we don't do some shit and try and grab the quarterback especially after this is not a strong quarterback class so it would be yeah it would be a very stupid thing to do but that means how roseman's gonna do it yeah so i mean sirianni said with roseman there that, you know, Hurts is the guy.

And I like Hurts enough to want him back. I don't know what you do with the decision-making stuff, because maybe that just comes with experience. That's kind of my hope. Yeah. But I don't feel too confident now that I'm saying it aloud. But he's never going to, I don't think he's ever going to be like Mahomes hitting a dime from like

60 yards. No. I just don't think that's his game. And I worry about like his mobility if he continues to take that much damage to his body, that's a concern down the line.

Yeah, so maybe draft another lineman because Kelsey had previously indicated that he's retiring. He hasn't changed his mind or said anything otherwise. Sirianni said that he's trying to – he said, I sent him two kegs of beer hoping he comes back. Kelsey's what? 34? I think. I think so.

He might be a little older. Brandon Brooks is supposedly retiring. So he'll be the right guard. I think he plays right guard. Isn't that Lane Johnson? Yeah, so he plays left guard, I guess. Jason Kelsey guess Jason Kelsey Jason Kelsey is

34 years old I mean that dude I mean he's put a lot of wear on his body being a offensive lineman Johnson is OT man he's an offensive tackle not a guard offensive lineman. Johnson is OT, man.

He's what? He's an offensive tackle, not a guard. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, this is the podcast where we look stuff up in the middle of the podcast. Well, what you're supposed to do is be confidently incorrect. That's right. And then not back down my mistake.

Yeah. No, no. Listen, I don't know what you're talking about, cuz, but he's look, he might play right tackle sometimes, but he graded out as a guard. OK, listen, you don't have the stuff I got right here. Oh, oh, God. Like that. Flashbacks. Listening to Aljigit Angelo Cataldi in the morning. Oh, God.

No, no. Thank you, man. But you know what?i in the morning. Oh, God. No, thank you, man. But you know what? This is the thing. If you're listening to this podcast and you don't know what we're talking about, you just Google him. He's an actor. He's acting. He's not that big a D-bag.

I mean, he probably is, but he's – it's like Howard Eskin. We've talked about him before. Yeah, Yeah. He's doing an act to get attention because Philadelphia sports radio is the Delco contractor, handyman equivalent of a soap opera. Um, that's what sports radio is. Yes.

Um, um, and that's why we need sound effects and like a, like a rock and roll intro and shit as opposed to uh the sound of philadelphia um wow we talked uh it talks a lot yeah we gotta that's good that we don't have that much for the rest of it uh i mean you got you got you got the you get the temple owls one winners of two straight baby yeah. Yeah. So I guess, you know, so I've never really been big into college basketball. Oh, welcome.

It sucks. So when does, we talked a little bit about like the tournament format last. So if Temple wants to get into the tournament, which is not very like they're not going to get an at-large bid. This team just isn't good enough. Like they're not going to get an at-large bid. So American

Conference. Oh God. Tournament. Is it the American or is it American? It's American Athletic Conference. Oh, that just seemed to 10th to the 13th uh at dickie's arena in fort worth texas dickie's arena so he's arena oh boy yeah i mean if someone else takes out houston temple actually stands a fighting chance oh all right uh like. I mean, and they

kept it competitive with Houston. They lost by five, but they've had some just real inexplicable losses like by 27 to St. Joe's, by 20 to Boise State, by 19 to St. Joe's.

Is Boise State's entire court also blue? Like it's a. No, I don't think it is actually. It should be. Although Boise State's a good team. They're first in their conference. So I will say that. But like Temple's losses are.

I'd like they lost to USC, but USC is also the 16th ranked team in the country so the competition they've had like temple has this weird thing where they play up to really good teams and then just piss in their pants basically the rest of the time uh so the philadelphia this is like philadelphia sports period yeah uh except for the flyers because they just piss their pants regardless yeah st joseph's putrid uh temple at least has a winning record so that's nice uh yeah fifth in the conference uh two games behind houston i mean it's yeah it's possible um but if they do damage in the tournament and like get to maybe the final i would say that yeah they'd probably get an at-large bid

but like i don't know how likely it is but also college basketball so fucking weird this year that it probably doesn't matter yeah i gotta watch some games uh i mean connecticut at 11 and four is the 25th ranked team well 12 and four now is the 25th ranked team. We'll tell them for now is the 25th ranked team in the country. And they, they, they have like one really good win on their resume, which is they beat then 19 ranked Auburn, who is now the number one, the projected number one in the country.

All right. You shouldn't be allowed to be good at football. And they weren't good at football last year, although they almost knocked off Alabama. That makes you feel better. UConn is future to football. It's fucking horrible. I do know that.

Shit. Well, you know, we'll see what happens. I guess some hope placed in Temple, which it's going gonna be in its place but i'm saying that like with with the diploma from temple right next to me um come on you come on you bastards the tassel there i'm gonna stroke the tassel yeah that's how i feel watching temple basketball is a lot of the phrase come on on, you bastards. Ah, fuck.

Well, at least Connecticut's good. I have something worth living for. Wow, we really are just so positive. It really is. We were talking about this before we started recording. Rutgers is actually good at basketball this year, which is fucking mind-blowing. They beat then number one, Purdue, and then, like, crapped out a bunch of weird

games but they lost the umass and then like three games later they beat purdue it was it's it's it's it's maddening oh my that's the turntables uh that's called nights baby yeah i i was accepted to ruckers i didn't go. My degree is from Rutgers. That's right. Yeah. I went to Penn State instead. Foolish. Foolish.

Foolish. At least I paid that loan off. Please give us. You can help pay my loans off more by subscribing to Patreon. Where you. Where I should plug this later. Let's talk about the Sixers.

Yeah. One thing I wanted to say, I'm sorry, because I did start something I had to say, is this is like the most depressing month. This and February are the most depressing month of the year. Especially if we don't have baseball because if we don't have baseball, what are we going to talk about besides the Sixers?

Yeah, but then it's only baseball in the summer, so I don't know what we're going to fucking do. We will talk about baseball for 60 minutes. We will do. Yeah, but if we don't have baseball, what are we going to do? Fuck. Prepare for the months of lead.

Months of lead months of lead what are you implying we're going to do there don't worry about it are we going to start the Philadelphia Space Program swiftly moving on to the Sixers I'm looking at why are the Basks calling me

alright alright yeah alright Sixers every every bead what were you gonna say about him he's so fucking good dude he had 50 last night on the magic he had the eighth most efficient scoring performance ever uh he was averaging very nearly two points a minute uh that is 50 points in 20 he did 50 and 27 i want to say uh the only active player on that list i believe is clay thompson who's done it twice clay of course can shoot the lights out whenever he basically feels like it so

uh mv when he's healthy yeah joel is playing i think the best basketball his career he is oh yeah he's he's leading this team really well uh clearly the young guys look up to him he's you know he's really blossomed into a leader yeah i i i can't say enough in praise about him i mean he's a good he's a good dude too like when the when the covid thing happened like he basically pressured the team into paying the salaries of all the staff that they were just going to furlough. He's a good dude. Yeah.

Absolutely. That's something in my mouth. They've all, the defense, I want to talk about the defense especially yeah he's thighball uh they held the boss the celtics are handsome boy all right he is very handsome uh 14 in the first quarter the batiste's defense is absolutely gorgeous uh this whole team's defense is pretty fucking good uh when they sort of cooperate. They did have an ugly loss to the Wizards,

but you're going to lose some games. What was the play? Was it Drummond missed a dunk or a layup, and then Matisse just came from behind and slammed it? Yeah, and just slammed it. It was magnificent.

That was beautiful. It's fantastic to watch I'm just trying to find the Sixers schedule they won last night like I said I like how we oh yeah the Flyers it's just pain yeah

did we forget the Flyers I mean they've forgotten themselves the Sixers do they look so fucking good right now and like they're 8-2 over the last 10. They've got a challenge tomorrow because they're going to play the Clippers. Yeah. Who aren't great right now, but they're always like a feisty team. Yeah.

You can't just get confident. And like, the Sixers sort of can also have this problem where they play down to their competition. Because that Magic game was a lot closer than I would have liked for a while. But he, Joel Embiid, should be MVP. And it's a crime if he's not. Well, all the sports betting assholes are like he's the clear favorite at this point for MVP. And yeah. or like he's the clear favorite at this point for yeah he should for everything and yeah he's taking it to his own coming to his own as as a leader yeah and without ben there he has really filled that gap i think very effectively uh and i think also this you know hitting on ben just for a

second yeah this dominant stretch sort of i think is the nail in Ben's coffin for ever returning back to Philly because it's clearly don't need it. Right. It's not, if the earlier this year, it was a little bit different, but the defense is starting to gel. Right.

And if MB is going to pull up hero ball numbers every day, I'd like, there's an argument. There's the same argument there always is, which is basically, yeah, but what about the playoffs? Right.

But like, you know, you rest him a bunch of the second half of the season, which is basically, yeah, but what about the playoffs? Right. But like, you know, you rest him a bunch in the second half of the season. You get the three or four seed. It's healthy for the playoffs. And if you can replicate this, it doesn't fucking matter. But I think it really does seal seal Ben Simmons coffin so much the better. Fuck you, guy. Like I said, I want Ben Simmons to find success.

I just don't want it to be on the Sixers. I want it to be on another team. I think that's the only answer. I want him to get the help he needs, and I want him to get healthy and feel confident and comfortable playing. But I think his time in Philly is at an end. Yeah. Yeah. I can't find anything to disagree with you there.

I think his trade price, you know. Oh, they're still insane. Probably dropped. I know that. Yeah. And I know they're trying to get Toby there because they probably want to. If you put Toby on there, that frees a lot of cap room. All right.

Yeah. $187 million contract. Like. a lot of cap room. Yeah, $187 million contract. So they're probably trying to get some pretty, you know, someone with commensurate stuff. If you don't know, in the NBA, you've got to match salaries with a certain

percentage when you trade. So either that or save up room for the offseason and sign someone. you know, yeah, so we'll see what we get for Ben. The whole situation, I mean, we've talked about it a million times. It just sucks. It just sucks. And it sucks to watch.

And it sucks the racialization of it, too. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say about that we've said about it before but yeah i mean um yeah if if if you're saying he's a bum or whatever shit like just shut the fuck up now you can do it without being racist uh let's talk about the flyers they suck there's no hope uh this team is fucking miserable mike yo should not be the coach everyone hates everybody yeah they've lost i think eight or nine in a row although the last you know they've been relatively close some of them were relatively close losses but like this team is absolutely fucking putrid yeah i know i know the record isn't actually that bad, 13, 18, and 8, but this team fucking sucks.

It's not going to get better. I'm at the point now where they need to blow up the roster. I mean, it hasn't been fun to watch at all. No, it's a miserable watch. Every Flyers game that I've been like, oh, I should watch it, and it's like all right i'm turning it off after the first uh the first period it's it's it's not uh it's not enjoyable um and at the end of the day i mean the players are humans but the sport is um the sport

is a product at the end of the day it's supposed to be entertainment and i you know this just says more about the owners than anything. Yeah, are you not entertained? Come on, like do something. Is a trade deadline passed for hockey yet? No. I don't think trade for draft picks? Yeah, I mean you have to at this point.

This roster has gone as far as it's going, and it's just not an especially well-constructed roster. You have this mix of old dudes. They don't have a ton of prospects. It's pretty bad. Yeah. Fuck.

That's all I can say. This is the dark, depressing time of year, and sports are supposed to be the solace. Fun enough lifting. In the gloaming and it's not. And something else that's supposed to be something to look forward to is baseball.

Gone. So if there's a CBA pitchers to us a report on february 14th if there's a cba and there's so little news on the cba front i things now things will pick up as we get into february they definitely will be talking more. There will be probably more good faith offers. The union is doing the right thing, and all these dumb bullshit offers are giving some that are just rejected. The thing is, and think about this from a from you know a labor perspective right now there's no

bottom line being impacted right right but as spring training hits as the season starts to loom the card that the players hold because the you know becomes more and more valuable um because it's a lockout right now it's the owner saying no you don't have a cba we're locking you out of everything they can still sign like minor leaguers or uh international free agents that kind of stuff but once once the player um anyone on the Major League roster Anyone who's on the 40 man You can't do shit And god man it must suck to be like a Phillies beat writer Right now

Sorry Doyles Townsend, Matt Gelb I feel bad for you But Yeah we'll see So if the players The players are going to hold out I wouldn't be surprised if the Cba isn't done until february or march and you have some sort of like you know curtailed spring training or delayed to the start of the

season by like you know a half a month or something like that sure uh because you're gonna have to cram a whole bunch of shit in there um There's a lot of stuff that's in the air, like Rule 5 draft. All the free agency. None of that stuff can be done. It's up in the air. The one thing that did happen was international

signing. You have... I mentioned this before right baseball the way they work their minor leagues is bad for one and then the international minor leagues the dominican league very bad right and so you see the signing you see like a william berg William Bergoglia Jr., the top shortstop in the international amateur free agent pool, gets $2.2 million at 17 years old. Awesome for him. Like, good, get your paycheck, my man. But there's a ton of guys who don't get paid very much.

Because actually there's a cap. I forget what the cap is off the top of my head, but usually your first, the guy you get your number one guy and he gets most of it and the rest get a pittance. Sure. For a chance to play for the Dominican Summer League and

maybe make it to stateside to the Florida League. But we also did sign maybe make it to stateside to, to like the Florida league. Um, but we also did sign, uh, Ronald Acuna jr's cousin,

Aaron Escobar. So that's also good. Uh, maybe who knows, uh, uh, Ronald Acuna jr is the Phillies killer, uh,

on the Braves for those who don't know. So we got his cousin. So maybe we can, uh, we can work something out. We can hope. Yeah. So that's, that's your baseball. I want baseball to happen. I want to be able to go to the ballpark.

I want it to happen for you too. Well, we're, you know, we'll go together. We'll sit section 420 and just drink a shitload of $10 beers. Sounds good. Well, you drink at the parking lot first. Right. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. And

get kicked out and have our others embarrassed to know us. Good. Fuck them. Yeah. Alright. Hi, ladies. What's up? I don't know if you have anything to say about

that. I feel like the sun is setting or the sun has set and I just feel all the joy and happiness from the world retreating. This is like the most depressing episode we've done. Yeah, it feels like it. Yeah, it's a vibe. All right. Well, there's nothing else, I guess. I guess you could ask me a question about Father Judge.

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