Ten Thousand Losses - Thanksgiving Eve Penis Lore Drops
Episode Date: November 27, 2025On Thanksgiving eve, we have an old-school episode where the boys talk so long they run out of time for listener messages. Featuring helpful shit to say to counter dumb sports radio takes at Thanksgiv...ing dinner. Have a great Turkey Day, folks! Find our bonus episodes and Discord at: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses Follow us on Bluesky: Podcast: https://bsky.app/profile/10klosses.bsky.social Liam: https://bsky.app/profile/wtyppod.com Tom: https://bsky.app/profile/tompain.bsky.social Shoot a message or leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218
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He is actually going to eject a fan.
Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things.
The fan jumped into the penalty box area.
Joy is to come to Philadelphia and stand here at Dodge Ice Bowl.
We, the Dallas Cowboys, head of assessment, John Cooney.
Let's see the false start.
False start.
Liam.
Five-hour penalty.
Remains first down.
Yeah, so let's get those can cracks.
Those non-alcoholic can cracks.
Ooh, we synced them.
Yeah, some podcast do a sink point.
We do a can crack.
the late new england beer reviews did that um yep uh but no speaking of drinking uh we were we were talking
before we say record and i is something i saw very early in my podcasting career career uh was
uh you're not you're actually not better when you're drunk you just had more fun right exactly
and i i have made it a point i was talking like therapists about this the other day
that I don't record drunk anymore
it's not to say I don't record
having had like a drink with dinner
right but I don't record like
oh like Roz gets a podcast beer
and then backup beers and it's like
yeah man that's fine like
but it's just a personal decision
I'm like I just I
is it called regular show or the regular show
I don't know what that is
okay never mind is that TV show
yeah oh I don't know
I'm just organizing
my torrents live on air.
I just, I, like the beer episode, you can't comprehend.
Like, that thing got cut down for size.
Yeah.
Well, there's, there's that New England beer review I do, which, which I don't know
how many 10KL listeners listen to that.
I mean, I literally got so drunk on that podcast.
And we hung out for two hours.
I was like recording videos and be like, oh, I love you, man.
Because thank you.
Thank God I'm a nice drunk.
Thank God I'm a nice drunk.
but uh yeah the i i've talked i've talked about this before i woke up so so hungover i blacked out
and it was like that was like a all right uh i got a soft shit yeah um drink i drink a like
three quarters of bottle scotch yeah plus beer right i just i just don't fuck with it at this point
where like i don't think i was talking about there's about it like i said because um she was
i was like i worried that like i was at a stage of my life years ago
where people, I think, liked me more when I was drunk,
or at least I perceived that they liked me more when I was drunk.
And then she's like, and then she's like referenced our YouTube subscribers.
And it was like that many people pay to listen to you sober.
Like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
No, it's true.
And it's like I said, it's more fun for you.
Right.
Maybe it helps ease that little bit of anxiety.
Right.
Which I don't really have anymore because I do this for a living.
And yeah, yeah, that the, what's I going to say?
drinking
I when I've done
WTYP like I think the first two I was I was pretty hammered
right and then I didn't
or I just had a beer or two in the last one
but I mean we used to drink recording this
yeah I used to I there's one episode that got real bad
because I got high right I remember that
and I just is like fuck and it sucks dude
like yeah I'm obviously podcasting's not very
be funny.
It's funny to you.
Like, yeah.
If you're all high together.
Like,
I don't give a shit like, again, if like,
ross cracks a podcast beer too,
but like I don't go into it.
I don't record if I'm already drunk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like we've done that enough times.
There have been enough episodes that then like can never see the light of day.
They got so bad.
Yeah.
I think that's part of it's that bad.
Right.
It's just their bad quality.
Right.
No shit leaves the shot.
Believe it or not.
It's, it's just, it's just.
I think we're shoring to, you know, realizing that you don't need, you don't need this stuff.
Yeah. Kind of funny going into this. Like, so we were supposed to record this. This is the 25th. We're recording this on Tuesday, 25th. Right. Of November. Year of Our Lord 2025. And we were supposed to record on the 21st, but we got on and we just talked to each other and we didn't record anything. We were both having a bad. We talked to each other for like 10 minutes. Right.
and we were like we can't we cannot we can't be funny we can't be funny you had some real
shit going on um i even my wife was like what's wrong with you i was like i don't know i'm really
a really bad headspace i'm just in a really bad spot that's how i felt yeah i was just in a bad
spot i i was very disregulated like emotionally oh i'm sorry yeah i was getting i was getting like um
what did my wife say to me she asked me a question
Oh, so we're talking about like, hey, there's this like Enterprise D Lego that's coming out, you know, and if you want to get it for me before it sells out, you have to buy it on Black Friday, you know, hint, hint.
And she's like, well, where are you going to put it?
And I took that as, well, no, what's the fucking point?
You can't put it anywhere.
And I completely like, I'm real.
I'm like, I'm like, what do you mean?
Like, you have all these, like, you love puzzles and you have this puzzle thing you're doing now.
Like, you have a puzzle table that we got you.
And I want to do my, like, I can imagine her face.
Like, she's like this as I'm talking.
Like, and then you, you, you can have all that, but I want one thing and I can't put it anywhere.
I've gotten like that, dude.
I've gotten like that.
Yeah, this is completely misinterpreted.
Mental health check hours.
Yeah.
I completely misinterpreted what she said.
No, she's like, no, I was literally just asking actually where would you put it?
If after you finished it, would you put it back in the box or would you like display?
Because she's like, you know, you love Star Trek.
You love the next generation so much.
Speaking of which, I just have it.
I just put it on the server for you.
Oh.
And Deep Space 9.
Chef's Kiss.
Yeah.
Because so I, it's so my favorite thing is like I, I get like that sometimes.
I was talking to Wren and I was like, oh, I'd like a new hard drive.
She's like, well, like they're expensive.
Like the ones you want.
And she's like, I know how much the ones you want.
They're 500 to pop.
Like, because the server is up to 90 terabytes.
And yet we're down.
to like the last five.
So we're going to,
we're going to crack the 100 terabyte mark,
which is an insane amount of media.
That's like all the media.
Yeah.
Well, I, 4K rips,
perfect 4K rip everything.
But I was,
I was talking to it and she's like,
yeah,
we'll get it for you.
Like,
just like,
be patient.
Yeah.
We have a lot of expenses.
And I was like,
like,
you get what you want.
Uh-huh.
And I've been there.
I've been there,
man.
It sucks.
Like,
and like I,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
the 30.
70 I have is five years old now and I was just like I'd really like a new graphics card like for
Christmas or Hanuk or whatever she's like okay like we can do that but like you're gonna have
like it's kind of like a one or the other thing right and what like I I interpret sometimes like I
interpret any like pushback as just just flat now right right those do that yeah it's hard that's that's
I'm learning that's emotional dysregulation I learned I was telling you I had I had therapy on
Friday, and it just gutted me.
I skied it about it. What a terrible sentence.
You just dropped out.
Did I?
Hello?
Hello?
There he is.
Dude, this happened multiple times on W2IP yesterday, so you just got to stitch them together,
maybe.
But what I was saying was, uh, before we- You skied it.
That was the last thing you said.
Skeet it. Leave it there.
Episodes over. Good night, folks.
Yeah.
Skeet, ski, skiskees, skeet, skeet, motherfucker.
Oh, skeets-kees-key, goddamn.
I just like, I did therapy on Friday and I, in therapy for PTSD related reasons, you can guess, I don't tell you off air.
Yeah.
Well, you told me some of it.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
But I also know that we have a fascinating connection to that, to the thing that gives me PTSD.
Oh, is that through the?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Oh, my God.
It never leaves, doesn't it?
Dude.
dude the we haven't even
mentioned the bootleg do we
no we didn't mention the bootleg
yeah uh it's fine
yeah I won't go any further than that
yeah you'll have to do we're talking about NFL
place we're talking about bootleg
bootleg right
um
ask us in person
at the live show
see at the live show
um
that's Sunday the 14th and Monday the 15th folks
buy your tickets now
um
yeah it fucking sucked
and I was like I just
can't, I feel like my chest was caving
in all day. I was like, I can't record.
That sucks. It sucks, man.
But, you know, also,
I think this time of year, it's darker.
It's all, it all, it's like,
it's like all contributing factors, right? It all plays off
each other, right? You have, you have a catalyst that
sets off. It's been, like, rainy
and, um,
kind of just grody all, like,
we had like one day a sun over the weekend.
It's that holidays are coming up.
I don't know what you guys are doing. Like, a lot, there's a lot of
stress right now with people having to see family I mean you just you hear it um we had some we had
some drama on my end about who's doing Thanksgiving this year because no one communicates right
and uh others I got to tell you something else I'll I'll tell you guys I'll tell it in the group chat
it's group chat I do love the group chat um Corinne uh I was showing Corinne something on my phone
And she's like, why is it just Matt talking about the Civil War for like nine techs?
Because she's like, this chat is called CFB boys.
Yeah, you should be union boys at this point.
We go back and forth.
Yeah.
Just Georgia Tech fraud watch question mark.
Yeah.
Man.
Well, one of the things was like real Pennsylvania vibes this morning.
I was walking.
I was doing my morning walk.
And it was just gray.
And then I think I turned a corner.
I took a different route today.
turned a corner into like a development and I was like damn this is like all the trash is out
because it's trash day at this place congratulations on getting trash collection this week
yeah and I was like damn this is fucking Pennsylvania dude are you not getting trash collection
no why holiday oh yeah well our we get we get to where I'm at but yeah so do we but on the week
of so in Philadelphia on the week of a holiday it switches to weekly trash collection my
Trash Day is Friday.
The city is closed.
No trash this week.
No trash till Monday.
No trash.
No, sir.
No trash till next Tuesday.
Put that, put that shit.
You know what I have done in the past?
Put it in a bucket.
I have a deep freezer.
So I just,
I've literally thrown the trash of the freezer.
Oh,
I bet wife loves that.
Well, I mean, it's better than we get stink.
I almost just said your wife's name than I didn't.
Thank you.
I mean, I'm ready to get this a little bit, but,
um,
yeah,
we're,
we're on the lead up to.
Thanksgiving. We're taking care of our
house. Oh, shit. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.
I accidentally launched Steam.
Sorry. It's okay.
I'll launch Steam, too.
Don't launch Steam.
No, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for, because you know what comes out at 3 in the morning?
I just downloaded a banner lord.
The war sales, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I just downloaded Hearts of Iron 4. I finally bought it.
Oh, okay. Are you going to do the regular or like, are you going to play?
like the vanilla or are you going to do like the Kaiser rank mod and all that
I don't know yeah I want to play the game vanilla and then get into
Kaiser Rick probably do that you'll never figure out how the Navy works or the
Air Force works well the Air Force is actually a little easier it's the
watchdogs 2 is five bucks okay oh no we I got close it I've already spent
so much money on Steam this yeah I'll buy the gold edition for eight dollars
yeah um yeah oh no why am i clicking on the steam store so i so it's a bad idea the release banner lord
i mean it's kind of good because i'm off but right i'm making a pie i'm making a a a pumpkin
from scratch including like from pumpkin like so you're like getting the pumpkins yourself
are you using you're not using canned puree there's no can puree there's no can't puree this is
all stardue valley cookbook oh that's sweet
man. No, the recipes are good. I mentioned
this before. The recipes are all slow food shit.
They're all good recipes.
Bar Cry 6 at Descartes.
Oh my God.
Far Cry 6.
Game of the year edition.
What's that?
Why can't just pre-order fucking
banner lord? Why can't it?
Remember, no pre-orders?
No, they don't have pre-orders. They don't have pre-orders.
They won't let you do it. They prevent you for
the Turks are are too
honest
they want you to see the reviews first
I played I don't remember
oh Red Dead's on sale
I already have that though
yeah
Monopoly is on sale
Mo Monopoly
Ooh you can buy turf legacy
for $9
I don't want to have a legacy of turf
Oh oblivion remastered
So you could see how
You could play the most boring
Elder Scrolls game
But it's pretty
Yeah
I
That's
There's another bonus idea
Games that everyone loves
I don't
Oblivion boring as shit
Skyrim was all right
Yeah
Skyrim was good
Yeah
Especially the
The setting was
Was good
I do well you know
I'm a fucking
I like runes and stuff
I know you deal
No
So we never talked about
The ruins we encountered
Well you were in
In my town
Yeah no we didn't
It was, it was, it was, it was someone had, you were like, what the fuck is this?
And someone's car had ruins all over it.
And you translated for me and I was like, okay, that's not Nazi shit.
It's just, no, it was not all who wander are lost, which is like, all right, relax.
First off, put it in Tanguar, if you're going to do a Tolkien quote, which I can read haltingly, but I can read it better than ruins.
Yeah.
So it's just fucking stupid.
Let me talk it to newsreads too, but whatever.
Yeah, so check in on your people before Thanksgiving if you're American.
I know we have a handful of non-American listeners.
Hello.
Yeah.
Hello.
What are you doing here?
Yeah.
I haven't have you, but what are you doing?
Yeah.
There was different.
What else was I going to say?
There was something else.
I'm like, whatever.
Hello, welcome to another episode of 10,000 losses.
The only mental health slash mental health come Philadelphia sports podcast that exists.
That's good.
I like that one.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm your host, Tom Payne.
My pronouns are he and him.
With me is my co-host, yay.
Liam.
Hi.
Liam McAnderson, my pronouns are also he and him.
Thank you.
No guests.
Fuck you.
No announcements.
We got to record bonus next week.
Yeah.
Now.
Why do they keep sneaking up?
Because we suck at our jobs, Tom.
Yeah, we do.
we do we need a manager uh will will you manage us for free we don't have any money to give you
no we have we have nothing uh that's weird the media is saying that it's only hang on one second
you keep going i'm i'm doing the media what nothing worry about it worry about yourself what's what are
we talking about in the media no i was talking about how my uh my plex server is just being weird
Oh, the space engine has an update.
Planetary Generation graphical tweaks.
We'll never do anything on time.
Oh, wait.
No, that came out in the 19th, right?
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Anyway, let me close steam.
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I got to figure out how to give
I figure I was going to give Charlie access
to just make emojis for us
Who is DMing me?
What the fuck?
Oh my God
I cannot emphasize this enough
Do not ever DM me
No
Speaking of DMs
I got a DM
I got a DM from Cassie in the server
Oh
What did I do?
No no no no no
She was asking about the, well, she's great because she's the maintenance lady for the, the, oh my God, W-TYP bonus feed that she DMs me occasionally.
And it's like, oh, hey, can you fix the audio on X episode?
I'm like, I didn't even know it was broken.
Thanks, Cassie.
Oh, I didn't know Cassie.
Cassie was on the payroll or non-payroll.
So,
Cassie rules
Yeah,
Shats out Cassie
Let's let's
So what was I talking about
I was talking about something
DMs
Oh, I might become a published poet
I
You were saying that
That's really cool
Yeah
Someone like my sad poem
Um
So
Details to follow
If it happens
I had a whole thing with my wife
Like
Like if I become a published
poet how do I like do that
with like deal with the fame
deal with the fame but like
your actual
I don't know if I want to use it use
this name or
my real name
I don't know if I want to use my real name
or come up with a pseudonym
for that but I'll figure
that out you're right
yeah I'm fine I'm doing
I'm doing the thing I always do when we record
which is server maintenance yeah so
so speaking of servers
I got called out by Patrick on the server
I did see that
for saying that Starship Troopers is a good book
and to Patrick we say pound sand
it is an entertain
well all right so there's different kinds of good
it's an entertaining book okay yeah I'm here for it Tom
it's an entertaining book I thought it was entertaining
I had a read in 15 years
I forgot you were you were the one who hit me up and said
oh dude you got to check this this book out right
it's called the Turner Diaries
well that's the thing
My favorite book is the Tomner Diaries.
The Tomner Diaries?
Okay.
Please do not make that a two a two.
No.
Please.
No.
I'm not making that the fucking episode name.
I was still going to keep it Friday.
Maybe Tuesday.
Can you make it Tuesday penis lore drop?
Penis Lord drops.
That's a reference to the group chat.
Yeah.
You're not in.
But you know we can do a new Patreon tier?
Penisler.
Where we give you Tom's phone number, but not mine.
Yeah, that'll be fun
If you'd be left on red
Just like a lot of other people
I've never left on red
I feel honored
No, no, no
There's, I mean, like my mom
Yeah, I respond to every text
My mom sends me
Because they're just like
Paragraphs of text
Then it's like, I love you mom
And she's like, I love you too
Aw
She's just like updating me about her day
And I'm like, that's great
Like I'm glad the headphones worked out for you
So she's like
Go ahead
No, you go ahead
because I was going to change the subject.
I was also going to change the subject, so go ahead.
I was just saying, I do think in responding to Cassie and Patrick about Starship Troopers,
I did synthesize that the ideology, the Highland.
I did synthesize.
It is space Singapore.
It is space Singapore.
It's nationalists as shit, but like inclusive.
Right.
It's both gender essentialists and progressive at the same time.
It loves corporal punishment, but it has universal health care and universal education.
It's fucking space Singapore.
It really is.
And now, his other books, because he vacillated between, am I a fascist and my libertarian?
Am I just weird other thing?
Right.
So I think calling Starship Troopers fascist is not correct.
Unless you qualify Singapore as fascist.
But I'm weird.
I am very reticent to, like, to slap that.
label.
They slap that label in anything that's reactionary.
Because there's a lot of things that are the reactionary that aren't fascist.
They still suck.
Right.
So, but I'm like OCD about categories.
I don't know if it's a little bit of autism or what, but like, no, you cannot put it in
that box because it doesn't fit.
It's the only shocked I've ever been in my whole life.
That I want to put things in categories.
Yeah.
And things don't go in certain boxes.
Oh, speaking of speaking of the thing on the spectrum, I got to send you a picture.
I'm going to show you a picture
of a pair of pants
that's someone I know saw today
I had to be vague
can you make them out
Oh dear
That's
Septa short septa PJs
That does fuck
It has both the bus
The trolley and the
What's it the
The L cars
What are they the M somethings?
Yeah
M-Force
That's it
I think it's M-4s.
That fucks.
All right.
I guess we should talk about sports.
23 minutes in.
I have one second.
I got to do one thing.
Continue.
Okay, I'm good.
I just want to make sure I...
What I was going to say was my favorite thing is we were talking about like giving out phone numbers and I just want to get this bit off real quick, which was...
Yeah.
So I have Justin Rossi, Excel phone number, obviously.
Well, that would be...
That would be in the, make sense.
But my favorite thing is that, like, when he wrote that op-ed in the New York Times,
people would, like, journalists were, were DMing, well, there's your problem and, like, emailing us.
But the problem is, Roz doesn't usually, he's sometimes with the emails, but it's inconsistent.
Yeah.
And he never checks the podcast DMs.
So I had to be like, no, you have to DM, you have to DM him, like, directly.
And people would like, I, some, someone got a hold of my cell phone number and like, hey, like, I'm like this person with this publication, like, yeah, really interested.
Is this Justin Razziak?
And I was like, nope.
That's a 7-1-7 number.
Do you think that's Northern Virginia?
Speaking of being on the spectrum.
Yeah, let's talk sports, man.
Let's talk sports.
So I wanted to, we haven't talked about baseball in a minute.
No.
Oh, what's his name?
Sunny Gray.
big news of the day
Sonny Gray went to the socks
from the cards
Oh shit
Okay I didn't see that
Phillies have kind of
We can talk about Brandon Nimmo
Got traded too
Oh where do you get traded to
I didn't fuck I'd even see that
He went in a one for one trade
One second
Good good thank God
I can't stand that guy
Own his hair
Oh my God
I got it runs the first base
Yeah Marcus Simmon
Simeon
Oh, Marcus Semyon?
Semion, yep.
Yeah.
Just a, I think just a, I think there's just a one-one trade.
Yeah.
Oh, I think of Pete Alonzo, who I, I, the hair that I hate.
Oh, Peter Alonzo, could trade it?
No, no, no, no.
I was, I was confusing Brandon Nimo's hair with Peter Alonzo's hair.
Oh, okay, okay, got you, got you.
I hate Pete Alonzo.
I'd like him if he was on the Phillies because he's a dumbass.
Yeah.
Let's see
We
So let me
Oh, I had to pull up
The Cy Young
So yeah
Say Young
Okay, let me get the awards voting here
So
Paul Skeens
Came in first place for the NL
Sy Young with 210 votes
Christopher Sanchez
Got second place,
He got snubbed
I mean, Paul Skeens is nasty.
He is nasty.
He is nasty.
But I feel like Sanchez, he got no first place votes.
I, okay.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
He had the highest thing more, too.
But we had three pitchers on the, on the Cy Young Valley.
Oh, shortlist?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sanchez, Luzardo, and Zach Wheeler.
I mean, Christopher Sanchez, the good thing is if the things, the
Phillies decided to keep it kind of together.
Sanchez is like an out and out ace now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, we have to.
We have to run it back.
People are saying, though, like, don't run it back.
We have to run it back.
There's a,
I mean,
there's a Phillies take for you for the WIP.
Oh,
I see this down in number three, yes.
Yeah,
we'll get to that.
We're going to have,
we're going to have a little primer for you,
for you guys who don't,
aren't like as obsessive about sports.
I do like the people listen to the show and are just like,
ah, it's the, like I was,
I was, I'm going to be honest with you.
I name searched myself on Blue Sky and leave that in.
And someone was like, I don't give a shit about sports unless it's a lesbian talking or Liam McA Anderson.
At which point I care immensely.
That's funny.
Now I have to search myself.
I just see just Charlie referencing me.
But I have to do it all in one.
No, I can't do that now while we're recording.
Every once in a while, I'll do that.
Or I'll go through, I'll go on the WTOIP Discord
and see if people are asking for me to be back on.
Well, you're going to be back on.
We just don't know when yet.
Yeah, I know.
And when people say, talk shit about me,
and I just give them, like, give them, like, ass emojis.
Like, I'm here.
I'm watching you.
I know what you're saying about me.
So, one tagged me in the W2IP Discord today,
and I was like absolutely never fucking do that.
Dude, please don't do this.
That's old, that's like old school.
etiquette. Do not tag the
admins. Do not
do that unless it's like, holy shit,
you need to delete this because
this is legal. There's another
the third, the third Discord
tank classified documents
leak has
has happened.
Let's hit the W2IP Discord. We'd probably
leave it up. We have a very
lot. Say, they're not. None of
us have clearances.
Someone else's problem, brother.
I technically at one point could
have been issued one if I needed to
but I was like at that level
but oh I was at that level
oh of course I love I love
I do have a thumb drive with like
information not for internet release
no it's not for internet release
so you had to pass it by thumb drive
is just a cracked copy of HALS EE or what
no it's it's I'm going to
bleep the part first part it's the
communications manual
so it's like the
like how they signal each other
and how, like, their communication.
Okay, it makes sense that that's on a thumb drive, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I was going for, I was going for, I'll, I'll be
believing most of this, uh, I was going to become, uh, qualified as officer
the deck and, um, I want to, right, so they gave me all that, they're like, here's a thumb drive.
Don't share this with anybody or else you're a lot of trouble.
It's like, okay.
I still, I still, I still, I still have.
I don't know it is. I might have like wiped it but they never asked for it back. So
those days are behind me now. So anyway, we'll talk a little bit more about the Phillies when we
get to the deep dive. So right. We just, one of the benefits about us dealing recording is that
we saw the shit show that was the Eagles playing at Dallas. Eagles Cowboys game. They fire Kevin
Vitello. Dude, I don't know what's happening. You go up 21-0.
And we're like, big swinging dicks.
We got this.
And then probably the sloppiest half of football I've seen in a long time from this team.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have what?
Like, so many big plays getting blown up like by penalties.
Coming back.
I think there was a touchdown pass, came back on a penalty.
I have, have we had this.
any offensive pass interference calls
in a single game.
OPI is not that kind.
I was,
right.
Yeah,
I mean,
you said some text to the group chat
and I was like,
I don't know if I grew with that.
And then I was like,
no,
like this is,
this is,
nonsense.
Oh,
that's my favorite,
like I'll die until
that Jerry Jones does.
Oh,
I know.
I just think he just calls down,
like,
and says just,
all right,
that one's going to be a,
right.
I do feel like he gets a couple of game.
I don't think he, like, like, you know, he can break K-Fabe, but, you know.
And then, that's a bad, that's a bad analogy there.
You were stuttering, so I, you were stuttering, so I had to turn off bailout.
I'll turn it back on the second once the service is uprooted.
No, I was saying it's like, I don't think he has, like, complete control.
I do think, I do think he could, can kind of pressure it, but, you know, we won't know.
It's nationalized release to Jerry Jones.
files I'm sure there's
some funny shit in there too
yeah some
John Gruden level emails yeah
I can hate that guy
yeah
I hope he says a live the
they suck ass
yeah
the cowboys can't get better yeah
yeah well again
we'll also talk a little bit more
we'll talk about all the sports a little bit more as we get
as we go through
temple there he is
yeah there we go
is that better temple
temple loss to Tulane which
which no one was surprised.
I watched most of that game.
I had to turn it off like five minutes.
I was like,
this is just bad.
No,
I caught part of it.
I don't think we're going to have a win
against North Texas
on the road.
No.
You don't feel that's super confident?
You think we get a pity bowl invite
just because it's got a little bit of research
and too many good teams this year?
Nah, there's too many teams, man.
I don't think so.
You know, for a first year for a coach,
Yeah.
The first season under Keeler, we proved to five wins.
We had a relatively tough schedule.
We didn't back down from anyone.
I mean, we didn't win some of these games.
We didn't back.
We scheduled fucking Oklahoma.
Why did these were like when Matt Rule was?
Right.
We scheduled Oklahoma under the rule regime.
Do you see the rumor that he wants to come back and coach?
Oh, that'd be funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But no, he's not because he just signed a contract extension at Nebraska.
but he he was on the temple on the PSU coaching staff so like the fit would have made sense
but like I think it's really interesting that they can't get anyone to take that job
and I think it's like well I you understand I mean he's a very high pressure you know and
demanding it's a high pressure the problem I think is that who the fuck was watching
Hamilton on here he was talking about Hamilton um Matt
never watched it
it's under my account
I don't know who's watching it
oh no mystery continues
you guys
you guys have got to you Joe and woggins
what was it going to say
we were talking about Penn State
Penn State football
oh well I was here
I mean James Franklin went to the Hokies
Virginia Tech but people are like
what if what if we get James Franklin to be the OSA
the Eagles like no he fucking sucks
I hate this fucking dude he's a
fucking braggatosh's asshole
I also
I remember when I didn't know
about him I was like ah you know
he's like a fucking you know
dip shit
mushroom mouth but not mushroom
but not mushroom mouth
asshole that's kind of nice to hear
and it was like oh I didn't know about him
was it Vandy
yeah and the stuff at Vandy
right now so you're aiding
and abetting there right now my guy
wide receiver coach
at Cutsdown who
Played at East Strathsburg.
Yeah.
So, yeah, fuck that guy.
Yes.
That's a shame in high school.
That's what I'm saying.
You're going to be the head coach of the name redacteds.
They haven't changed their name yet.
Yeah.
I think, and let me just double check.
The logo there.
Are they still really?
Max preps are just the skins
Probably
That's honestly pretty funny
I want to see their logo
So
Have you seen their logo
All right
Here I'll put it in
No
You tell me
You tell me
Does that look like someone
You know
From the Northeast Woodlands culture
Yeah
Oh boy
Hang on
It's load
Now this could be the older logo
It's from 2008
It's still
So they use the Native American head logo
And it is a
Plains Indian in a war bonnet
So
So
Which just reminds me of something
With Thanksgiving coming up
There was
I came across
Someone's lesson plans
And they had a
This is what like the Pilgrims
Thanksgiving Thanksgiving
thing was and it had AI generated
image images of
everything of Puritans and the natives
at the table and all the natives
are wearing fucking four bonnets. They're dressed like
in like buffalo leather
with fringes and shit. It's like dude.
Not all Native Americans
were the same. There are thousands
of Native American languages and cultures.
They're not all the same.
Right. Can you not be
a fucking moron about this?
like the northeast woodland people did not dress like that oh that's terrible
jesus christ like like not all the wore the fucking war bonnets um right go go to the
official delaware tribe go on their website they have like drawings and shit of what they
would wear they would wear like one feather right like and just that
like yeah
it's just like that's so
again that's when you
that really is like
like when you talk about
culture appropriation
we haven't heard that word
in a long time
that is straight up
appropriation
and just misrepresenting
an entire culture
right
yeah change your name
to the Caucasians
that's one of my favorite
that that's my
one of my favorite
is a Native American gentleman
who has just as the Caucasians
and it's a yeah
I kind of want that
I know
that's this
um
Anyway
I'm not going to talk about the union thing
Because Charlie's got it covered in the DM
But you want to go to the deep dive
All right so with Thanksgiving coming up
You're going to hear some dumb shit at the at the table
From your old heads
Especially you're in the Philly area
You know what they should be fucking doing
You know this fucking birds man
They fucking, they fucking suck.
They fuck.
They just fucking suck, man.
And, you know, you got your uncles drink way too much.
Sneaking that.
Yeah, drunkles.
Drunkles.
That's a good, portmanteau.
Yeah.
The feel.
At some point, we really could, could just do a bonus just on the drunk Philly uncle.
And the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.
Oh, yes.
Philadelphia tradition of
literally holding up meat trucks
it is a tradition
or going into Wilson's meats
and shoving shit down
your pants and bringing your own aluminum
foil so that the fucking thing doesn't go off to make
a Faraday cage
so you don't get caught
stealing prime steak
I've eaten steak that my
uncle had shoved down his pants
off
that's weirdly ancestral way I don't like
it sucks cock Jesus Christ
Jesus, whacked, Tom.
Yeah.
They're all dead.
Fuck them.
So we want to talk about, like,
just like come up like one or two depending on the,
it's really just two for the birds.
But like some of the dumb things you're going to hear at Thanksgiving.
These are WIP level takes.
So WIP level takes for those who don't know who haven't maybe been listening a long time,
94 WIP.
Or have the, I have the, I have the, of not heard, not.
94 WIP is one of the two sports radio stations in Philadelphia.
The other is 97.5 The Fanatic.
Both of them suck.
And they have been said, these are soap operas for men is like one of the ways they put it.
Yeah, it's drama and bullshit for guys to talk about.
And I know who listened, whose dad's listened to WIP of my students based on the takes that they share with me.
Right.
And I know also which teachers listen to the WIP because they'll bring those takes to me because I'm the sports teacher.
And they'll be like, oh, you know, what about this?
What about that?
You know, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know if you fucking tell me.
So the first one is Jalen Hertz cannot pass.
He is not a, he's not a good passing quarterback.
Wrong.
He can't really put up good numbers passing.
we're not using him correctly because he's a running he's really a better running quarterback
um so uh yeah let's let's let's uh let's this eval this um uh yeah this is he outside his first
two years he has thrown over 3,000 yards uh I mean he's really down this year he's
like 1,000 yards this year but I think it's an offensive thing um
His, where, oh, I had the stats up.
Where's this quarterback percentage?
Great time.
Passer rating.
I mean, you're talking about guys who were, sorry.
Yeah.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
I lost.
I mean, you have a Super Bowl MVP, two-time pro bowler.
He's a Super Bowl champ.
Career-wise, you know, 102 touchdowns,
40 interceptions.
64, 65-ish completion percentage.
Yeah, it turns out he's a good quarterback.
He's a really good quarterback.
I'm sorry.
And he put it on a clinic a couple of games ago.
Was it the Minnesota game?
He threw 326 yards, threw three touchdowns.
The man can ball.
He had been inconsistent.
We've criticized him.
Hey, we'll out to the right.
He doesn't do that anymore.
We have.
This game has matured.
Jalen Hurts can't pass
What do you think that take is ultimately rooted in
Racism
It's ultimately rooted in
And especially if this
If your uncle is like 50, 6 years old
It's
It's rooted in
And dodding that face it
A lot of black quarterbacks have talked about
How the stereotype is
Yep
You're an athlete first
And then a quarterback
Right
You're pretty not bad for
You're a real, you know, I guess a polite way to say it's like you're a dual threat.
That is a playway.
I mean, that is actually true like Jail and Hurts to can run.
But, and that's not his fault necessarily.
That's the schemes that in that offensive line not holding their blocks as well as they could.
I mean, the offensive line is also, you know, radically changed in the last couple years.
Guys are retired.
Guys are old.
Guys are injured.
But you can go ahead.
look at those stats and say
the man can pass, especially under a good
offensive coordinator, you know, he could pass
in college too.
Has there been moments of inconsistency, sure, but there
are with every quarterback.
It's that he's a black quarterback
in Philly. And that
he gets undue
criticism. He would,
I mean, even if he was white, like he would still
get some, but like it wouldn't be as amplified.
And then we would talk about how hardworking
he is.
It's a real lunch, right,
Real lunch pail guy.
It's something about it, I just can't put it on.
Yeah.
Just, you just seems.
I think you can actually.
Yeah.
Sounds about white.
And this goes into our next Eagles take that you probably are going to hear because this is a fresh one.
This is hot off the presses.
I saw this today.
Right.
The Eagles should tank, should lose the game versus the Bears, in order to make sure they could.
So they fire Patel.
No, I've seen that too, right?
And like, we're in three.
it's an eight we're eight and three you play we're not we're not a bad team you play to win the game
if we were i would say three and eight if we were like uh yeah three and eight he'd already be
out the door if you're even like six and six but like tanking is so dishonorable to me it's dishonorable
like it's dishonorable like i don't give a shit if it's more strategic like it is dishonorable
i'm just thinking of a bit where like wharf is on it's like captain what is this i've started they call it
Tanking.
Well,
Commander Wolf,
that's the thing
they used to do
back of the days
of sports.
This is very dishonorable.
I can't do a good worth.
Yeah,
I hope you enjoy
all 178 episodes
of TNG,
right?
I have seven seasons
I'm on that.
I just finished
Code of Honor.
No,
it's seven,
and then D-Space
signs another seven.
Good shit.
It's so good.
I love the enterprise.
I loved Next Generation.
I love
Card so much. I like Kirk, but man, I fuck. Picard is just my guy.
Yeah, so tanking is dishonorable. Worf wouldn't do it. No, you, you fucking go ramming speed.
I'm going to take down everyone with me. That's exactly right. Like, you, again, you play to win the game.
It's boring. It sucks. Like, tanking sucks. Fucking, what's his name? Was bad when he did that.
Doug Peterson
Yeah
So speaking of Patillo
He got fired over it
And now people like bring Doug back
As OC
No
No I mean
Obviously Patelo does
I don't think he's got the
Nick Folls put it well
He's like look
Play callings in art
It's a skill
And it's hard
And some people just don't have it
And the way he said it was like
And people are like
Nick Foles for OC
It's like I think Nick Foles
is living his best life right now
doing like weird, oddly Christian speech things.
Yeah, he has an online degree from Liberty.
That's what they said.
They said he had the biggest,
they weren't joking when they called him Big Dick, Nick.
They said he had the biggest salon in the locker room.
And I imagine there's some guys packet.
There's some big guys in there.
In the Eagles locker room.
I mean, the offensive lineman,
I mean, you could probably tie him together in puppetry of the penis style.
Yeah.
A big sausage.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Poor sausage.
Yeah.
So you should agree.
This is where you get your drunk uncle.
Yeah, no, they definitely should fire Petulah, but tanking, like, man, dude, that's like
lame shit.
Do whatever adjective you need to there to get on your uncle's side so he shuts the
fuck up.
Yeah.
Right.
This is stupid.
You know, it's pussy shit, whatever.
I don't use that word in my life, but...
I also don't use that word in my life
I mean I do sometimes
I'm calling people that online but
I'll use the other I'll just call people cunts
that's a good accepted word in our house
you and your wife are strange birds
well well consider that you know
she spent a significant portion of her life
being educated in the in the British model
so um yeah
true so
where, where were we?
Where were we?
Let me close that.
There's no reason to tank
when you're the top of your fucking division.
And we can,
and we can close to playoff spot.
Right, exactly.
And like, listen, man,
we've been saying it all year,
like,
teams going to take a step back.
It's obvious that, like,
Patelo has to go,
but, like,
but, like,
also, like,
I'm even hesitant to say that.
Like,
I'm not.
Because,
I mean,
I'm,
I'm hesitant to say that
just because like I want like this is
first OC job ever
and I wonder if like
he does get like significantly better year too
and we don't have to start over
well and jailing gets continuity but he might
get hired it's hard
I don't know what the answer is I didn't know this about
becoming an NFL head coach
it's a it's 25 million guaranteed
yeah yeah so it's five million year
for five years guaranteed money so that's why
everyone was like fuck it I'll become an NFL head coach
even if I get fired it's I
Yeah, so I'm getting it.
I sort of get that.
Watch, so I'm completely off.
Is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it take that much money?
I don't know.
It's, it's, it's guaranteed.
It's guaranteed money.
All right.
All right.
Right.
Let's move the baseball.
The Phillies need to blow it up.
Blow it up.
Just get prospects.
Shut up.
Shut up.
How did the Phillies do last year?
What would we blow it up me?
Trade anyone up to an including Bryce Harper, who has no trade clause.
Yeah, he does because he's not stupid.
Blow up the Phillies, get, just get, I think a lot of guys don't realize you can't get picks.
And no, it's prospects.
You have the weight, like, maybe three years at, for a sure fire, for like a surefire guy, too.
they need like five years they need the cook man you can't just like draft and and be good
it's not like the NBA or the NFL like a first rounder can be can be team changing
you're the I went on with the last time they pull the guy up like straight from the from
the fucking draft was like in the fucking 80s um it's it's been it's been a really long time
it's been a minute right yeah you need time to make baseball because baseball
was actually really fucking hard.
And guys think, yeah.
Well, no, it's not.
It is.
Hitting that ball is the hardest thing in a sport.
No, baseball is not.
What is?
No, it's not.
Scoring a goal in an NHL game.
Okay, bud.
All right.
Here, we'll see you this weekend.
We'll put skates on you.
We'll call the flyers up.
I'm sorry.
No, we can't do.
We can do it.
Either of these things, but I still.
Could you Paul?
Could you put one ball in play?
Could I put a ball in play against a major league pitcher?
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
Obviously, we can't do this.
But like, what do you think we have a better chance of doing?
I don't know because I'm going to get, I won't even get, I won't get the puck.
I won't be able to make a shot.
At least I will have the bat in my hand.
Maybe they throw at my head and it bounces off the fucking bat.
What is, what is a career like?
What's a goal, a scored percentage for like based on shots?
Versus like a batting average.
Like a batting average of 250 being like.
I imagine that has not been tracked until recently, but I'm going to search,
I'm going to give us the best chance and search fucking Gretzky.
We're doing research live on there.
What is a good scoring season or shooting percentage leaders this season?
Gretzky's shooting percentage
It's okay, so what's a good bad average, Tom
Okay, cool
So no, 300 is excellent
Gretzgerz's shooting percentage
Would equate to 0.176
So I'm looking at
StatMews, NHL shooting percentage leaders this season
The number one is Anthony Sorrelli
With 30%.
That would be 300
So 300 minimum of one shot per goal
for team. I don't have many shots yet. Sidney Crosby
has 28 per 3. No, that's
stupid. That's stupid.
Griskees was 17.6
meaning he shot on 17
many he scored on 17.6% of the shots
on goal.
Yeah, no, dude.
All time.
It doesn't matter. Either one
were fucked. All right. Here's
NHLWHA career leaders and records for shooting
percent. This is hockey reference, so I trust that.
Number one, Craig Simpson
shooting percentage of 23.66.
So still lower.
So the best guy,
the best guys in the world of this,
shoot,
get to shoot it.
So,
and still get it blocked or missing.
Let me ask you this.
And I'll further the,
I'll further my argument with the fact that,
Ted Williams,
the splendid splinter,
managed 400, right.
But like, you're the best in the world ever, besides, I know there's a guy from the Negro
leagues who did, who did better than that.
I think it's 419 top of my head.
I can remember his name, which I'm ashamed of.
But like, best in the world ever and you still fucking up six out of ten.
Here's my.
All right.
So now we're devolving into the very thing we hate.
You have to bounce a couple of minutes.
So my one thing is there, the confounding factor is the goalie.
versus if I had a pitch machine
just shooting 100 mile per hour fastballs,
I think you would still get guys with,
whereas if there was no goalie,
someone like Wayne Grissey's hitting 90% of the time,
depending on where he is.
No, no, no, it's harder to score a goal.
267, 3717-1718, please give us your name and pronouns.
Tell us, is it harder to score a goal in hockey
or is it harder to hit a baseball in Major League Baseball?
you know what fuck it
if it's if it's the same thing
we're talking about scoring runs
I'll grant you this
it's probably harder to hit a home run
than score a goal
hmm yeah
because those are equivalent there
right
because how about
because shots on net
or whatever you would call it
like shots on the goalie
shots on goal
shots on goal
career shots on goal
see this is how you do stats
this is it
all right
I just
Alex of Edgekin
that's just
pure shots for goal
I want percentage
I don't think it's
I'd have to
to drill down more
so I wonder
what that is
yeah
okay hang on one second
because we do have
three messages
in the in the voicemail
I know I know I know
hang on
This is so funny.
Okay, so I can do this.
He has a career.
We'll do a career.
Who's a?
He has a total of 900.
907 goals in his life, divided by 6,919.
Dude, his shots on goal percentage, it's still 0.13.
three of all shots he's made
have been handled
by the goalie or scored.
Yes.
Have, have, right, yeah.
Yeah, Ovechkin, good at hockey.
Russian machine never breaks, Tom.
Someone listening who likes numbers,
I know you listen.
Fucking figure this shit out.
Yeah, call him DMS, whatever.
He, dude, like, I don't understand how you,
over a season, he averages,
49 goals on 375 attacks
Ofchkin's political views
Are they
Bad pro Putin
Is he a united Russian guy
Ah fuck
Yeah
Can we just have communists like we used to
I just really like Ovechkin
Sorry
I just really like Ovechkin
Um
Oh he was engaged
Sorry I just saw the lady
Moving in a long age too
It's kind of pretty
So anyway
What's up?
Hey, can you do me a favor
since my internet's being also?
Can you talk what the UMass score is?
No.
UMass reversed.
No, shut the fuck up.
Google AI.
Suck my dick.
It's that 21-0-0-0-11.
Oh, and 11.
I have to read that article you sent me.
Mid-afternoon action.
Not everyone needs a football program.
All right.
probably the FCS too
All right
Phillies need to clear out so the answer to that
is it's baseball the guy on contracts
Who else is out there
This is asking who else is going to be a free agent this year
Yeah they can't
They can't name six guys
I love my brother who's got to get rid of JT
I was like all right who's who's else is in the market man
He's a
He's a good catch as he's been really
declining slowly
Yeah
And guess what my catcher does it
If my catcher is hitting 200 I'm fine
I'm fine
old school. Right. I needed
it to be really good defensively and he
usually is. Sixers, Sixers take
trade and bead.
We got trade and bead.
Yeah, we got trade in bead.
Yeah, I mean, we should trade and bead.
I thought we're supposed to debunk these.
No, we're trading in bead now for
a box of fruity pebbles at this point. I'll take anything.
Are you, it's just going to be to let you, is it be going to let you trade them?
Who are you going to trade them to? For what?
Yeah.
For a box of fruity pebbles?
Fantastic. I, like, at the six, yeah, the Sixers make some baffling decisions like signing Paul George, but like, Embed when healthy. And like, again, like, okay, fine. I actually kind of like the idea I've seen this take that I actually kind of like. It's kind of insane, but I kind of like it. Sit in the whole regular season, the whole regular season, the whole regular season and just let him do the playoffs. Does it work that way?
sit him the whole regular
the whole regular season, the whole regular season
and just be like, nope, he's available, sure.
Can you do that?
Sure, we'll eat the fine because Josh Harris is a billionaire.
Hang on, we'll eat the fine because Josh Harris is a billionaire.
And what we'll do is we'll put him in.
He's on a 20 minutes of a minute restriction.
Fuck that, cut it in a half.
10 minutes.
You get 10 minutes a night to like stretch your femurs.
10 minutes.
And then you're going to sit.
And then during the playoffs, we're going to thaw you.
Like you're a big, sexy microwave.
Lazzania.
10 minutes at the end of the game
so he gets all the breaks
from the fucking timeouts.
Yes, exactly.
He deserves it.
All right.
Here's an odious take.
The Flyers should have re-signed Carterhart.
I was already had
two minutes, 25 seconds.
An hour in.
This is an hour 52.
It is an hour in.
Yeah.
You want
what?
We don't,
We don't actually have to respond to that one.
You can say, listen, you want that
bad locker room energy on that team?
I don't know. That's one.
Yeah. Be my guest.
Really? Is that what you want? Is that what you want
the boys of Philadelphia
looking up to? You can do that.
Right. Do you think that's acceptable? Do you think it is?
Because it isn't.
Yeah.
Was he found that? He was found that
not guilty? Not culpable.
Not culpable.
Canadian justice system is different.
than ours. I forget what it is. You still have a monarch.
Not that we're doing any better down here. All right.
All right. Are you going to be able to do the DMs and all that? No.
Nope.
I like I'm hard at 530. I mean, I'm hard all the time.
Camp, we'll do a bailbag episode.
Yeah, it's funny because I asked everyone the fucking calling shit.
All right. Sorry, we went along with our stuff.
a lot of good stuff in the DMs.
We got a wiki, give us
an AFL update too.
Sorry, folks.
Yeah, we're going to have to
we're going to have to end it here.
Hey, you got over an hour.
Listen to this before you
try and get this out as soon as I can.
Get out tonight.
And then deal with your shitty family
or your lovely family. Who knows?
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No new 700-level patrons.
If you join, you can be part of the podcast.
No, you can get shout-outs on the pod.
Yeah.
Honestly, baby.
Voice mail, 267, 371, 721, give us your name and pronouns.
Way in.
You can text that number.
You can also go to patreon.com, so 10,000 dollars and become a patron, join in Discord.
And you can also, we have a mailbag section.
So we pull from there regularly.
DM us and follow us
I'm at Tom Payneum blue sky
and he's at WTYP.com
and then the podcast too, 10KL
we could use some more follows on there
and listen to other podcasts
W2IP I saw you guys just put an episode out
today
talk your shit, bring him young money
which is back from the dead soon-ish
soon
I think they're coming out of a hiatus
Trash Future, Beyond the Breakers, Radio Free Tobeg,
No Gods, The Mayors, Kill James Bond,
held away to dad.
Tipping pitches, the Sickos Committee,
softwares, championship, and bust,
and batting around.
All right, everyone, have a good, have a good Thanksgiving.
Have a good, have a good turkey day.
Eat a lot of food, be merry.
Yeah.
Try to kill each other up there.
Bye. Bye.
We don't care.
We're from failing, fucking failing.
No one likes us.
We don't care.
