Ten Thousand Losses - The Meat Grading Draft ft. Jordan from the Sickos Committee

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Sicko Jordan joins Liam and Tom to talk about the important things in life: the chess final four. We also talk about college football, the Shohei Ohtani being ripped off situation, and answer a bunch ...of your messages.   Follow us on Twitter: The Sickos Committee: https://twitter.com/SickosCommittee  Podcast: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Liam: https://twitter.com/notliamanders0n Tom: https://twitter.com/tohickontpain  Leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy doesn't come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge an ice ball. We, the Dallas Cowboys, have a sense of identity. And we're live. We're live. We're live and recording.
Starting point is 00:00:40 We're recording, but we have someone else that's usually not on here actually a first time guest not excited it's gonna be good yeah what are you doing here who are you yeah i am jordan my pronouns are he and him i get to say that i was super excited liam i'm sorry we forgot to ask you that the other night we don't do it on our show but i feel like we should have asked you since you were there it's okay i uh i yeah we i do it as a basically as a courtesy yeah uh but i just like i i also like that it just rubs chuds the wrong way yes oh 100 that's like the the joy of it is is also there's a certain like level of respect for like people who are like gender non-conforming or whatever but there's also the just like i know that it makes you angry and i'm
Starting point is 00:01:23 happy that it upsets you and i need to show you guys this from the Temple Spirit store. Oh, boy. I just saw Tommy Bahama. Oh, it's great. Oh, that actually. That slaps. Hold up. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You know, the tropical climbs in North Philly. Oh, only two left in double X. If I'm going to buy one, I got to buy one now. Yeah. There's a coupon and and we have a there's some y'alls and sloops on there so we have very philadelphia uh types of ships on there yeah this is uh jordan where are you where are you coming to us from why do people yeah so i'm i'm jordan i am from the SICKOs committee. I am their VP of graphic design slash data slash whatever at this point. I'm from Texas. I live in North Texas and I'm here to talk about literally whatever because if you've ever heard our podcast before, it is just stream of consciousness. There really is no topic so much as just vibes.
Starting point is 00:02:22 That's going to upset our listeners who are used to a very strictly structured. Yeah. Well, we're going to strict 20 minutes talking about dicks and then 10 minutes. And then five minutes of listening to them complain about whatever it is they're complaining about this week, which is just Charlie yelling about soccer. You getting mad at me doing voices. I do. I hate your voices, dude. No, they're good.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Keep doing them. Thumbs up here as a listener. Thumbs up. Let me already drive this wildly in another direction. Did you know there's a Final Four this weekend? No. Tell us more. There's a Chess Final Four.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The collegiate chess final in Dallas, Texas at UT Dallas. In fact, UT Dallas is part of the Final Four. They had a pep rally today for them. If they're going out free swag, it was great. The four teams in the chess final four are UT RGV, which is UT real grand Valley, UT Dallas,
Starting point is 00:03:15 Missouri, and then Webster university, who is the defending champions. I'm going to drop their mascot for y'all. It's the Gorlock. Oh, what? Yeah. The Gorlock. I'll get to drop their mascot for y'all. It's the Gorlock. The what? Yeah, the Gorlock. I'll get that picture for you guys.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh, it's in Fort Belvoir. Yeah, they're the Gorlocks. It's a little dude with a very menacing face. Oh, no. It's in Webster Groves, Missouri, where my mother used to live. There you go. So Missouri and Texas, the two chess powerhouses. I'm looking at the President's Cup.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And dude, it's like the same school. These are like powerhouses. Yes. These teams that are going, these are the big teams. This would be like Duke, UNC, and I don't fucking know other good teams. I don't know. Connecticut, baby. Sure. UConn.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And like mid-2000s Florida, maybe. All right there. And so, yeah, they're doing it this weekend. I'm actually going to stop by, I think. Their gear, their merch for this, I need to show it to you. Their gear for this is- Oh, look at this shirt. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Oh, this slaps. Where is this at? Is this slaps where is this at is this in the is this in the chat here I'll drop it I got a version of the picture I think let's see here oh good it's someone stealing someone using our name to steal a logo great thank you T publicity fucking hell
Starting point is 00:04:38 but yeah that's the that's their actual logo it's a little it's a cowboy writing a chess piece and it's amazing. That fucking rocks. It had no reason to go that hard. That slaps. Are either of you good at chess? I'm pretty good at chess.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I'm okay. I'm so bad. I got to the point where I was playing with some guys who are decent, and they're like, oh, you used the French repartee. No, I'm just trying to make moves. I don't know anything about opens. If you turn chess into like, I've got
Starting point is 00:05:13 pre-programmed... Nope. I think the mental capacity I have for chess instead went to Magic the Gathering. Oh. Yeah, that feels right.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I feel like I'm better at magic, too, than chess. I am better at magic than chess. I guess, for me, it went to memorizing NASA missions. Or, no, old English, which I can't really speak. I'm not going to do it until Liam. Like, other stuff, today they just announced
Starting point is 00:05:48 BYU won the National Landscape Design Final, which is another competition they have. And we also have things like crop judging and meat judging. I've seen the crop judging tweets, and I really like those. Yeah, you know what? I won the meat, and I really like those. Yeah, you know what? I want the meat judge, I'll tell you. Yeah, definitely. They should let me go in again.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, man. Fuck it. Always win that shit. I like the idea of... I don't like that idea. Just moving on. Of meat being judged? It's so great.
Starting point is 00:06:22 At the end of every season, or at the end of every school year, we try to put together a list of every school year we try to put together a list of all the non-ncda champions from whatever we can find like book collecting or concrete canoe which is this awesome engineering program where these like engineers students try to build a canoe out of concrete with different things yeah drexel does that uh and they're usually decent at it uh go ahead cal poly is the is the of course they are fucking dweebs doesn't doesn't doesn't uh drexel do that the trash boat thing too yeah i think so yeah we uh i did a safety thing for that once for the trash but yeah we had this we had to stay close to them in case they
Starting point is 00:07:05 sank, which they were very... Because they do that in the fucking Schuylkill in the navigable park. I think it's a bad idea. Blech. But yeah, that's one of our favorite things is just being able to highlight all of these champions from these events that... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Did you know there's a collegiate cricket championship? Who won? This year it it wasn't Pitt, because Pitt was going to have a five-peat, but they got beat. Let me see. I know that Notre Dame won Gaelic football. That makes sense. That makes sense. And I think Colorado won hurling. It was. The hurling and the bowling. Yeah. I take delight in hurling and the bowling. Yeah. I take delight in the carriages of rolling.
Starting point is 00:07:47 There are just so many awesome, weird things that are out there that we love to just sort of dig through and find it. Because why not? No, I like the appreciating the spirit of competition. Yeah. And mastery within a field. Competence, you you know and excellence it's cool to be able to say i'm the best in the country at the shit no one cares about yeah right like that's objectively cool yeah and and for someone it's always gonna be like this is you know an amazing thing this is an important thing this might be for the meat judging folks. Like that's,
Starting point is 00:08:27 that's like a career for them. Right. That's like their big jump into their career. And so, yeah, hell yeah. Why not cheerlead all of it? Get t-shirts,
Starting point is 00:08:33 hang banners, always hang a banner. When in doubt, hang a banner. Absolutely. I bet you the meat judging champions. I bet you Costco's on the line. Like, yo,
Starting point is 00:08:41 we need you to go like help us find or like commercial butchers, stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. USDA is like right there with a fucking application waiting for you. Draft the meat judging draft. That fucking rules. Yeah. I would watch that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm deep in the Temple Spirit Shop bookstore. There's some. Oh, God. Oh, you got to share the. When you get to the bottom of those bookstore. There's some. Oh God. Oh, you got it. You got to share the, when you get to the bottom of those places, it's just,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I was looking at the pack 12 one before they started shutting it down. And there was, there was some stuff in there. Y'all. I do remember that. I was, uh, Oh,
Starting point is 00:09:16 that's bad. Camo. Yeah, but chip camo, but in cherry and black and, Oh yeah. You know what? That would work in like center city,
Starting point is 00:09:25 like, like down with like Alphers alley you could you could put you could bust that out and like tactically sneak up on somebody oh yeah because from the shoulders up there's just there's a bottom of a torso coming out of me out of the break fuck i like this one because it looks it looks fake, this is for our... I almost said for some reason we have a med school. I don't remember why we have a med school. This just looks fake, right? Oh, that looks fake as hell. Temple medicine.
Starting point is 00:09:54 In the most... Knock off Helvetica font. Dead center. It's not even the real temple wordmark. Nope, it's not. Why would they not have they should they should have like like a real like clearance section like um you know temple 2010 commencement speech he's just got bill cosley on the back doing like doing like his face or something like that i remember
Starting point is 00:10:20 my ex-girlfriend worked at the temple bookstore and actually met Bill Cosby and apparently he was just the rudest piece of shit. It was Trax, right? Just the rudest, nastiest guy. And it's just like, yeah, that Trax, he fucking jackass monster thing. There's a house up on old Second Street
Starting point is 00:10:40 that's supposed to be his mom's house. That was the rumor. This was Bill Cosby's mom's house but it was like right on the corner on like second street pike i know we are yeah yeah like up in like um elk it's parkish area like on the way up to there yeah everyone's like oh that's that's bill cosby's mom's house like how do you know this why do you know this yeah old philly lore um the real the real deep hyper regional shit that no one understands unless you're from here um i don't like this new kind of like flat design temple owl logo that's that i've seen some of these shirts the the one with
Starting point is 00:11:19 the owl itself that looks really ugly yeah it's like, like a diamond. I really like it. I love the classic T the, like the double line T, but the new, I do like the new logo. I like owls as mascots. Like that's one of those things. I almost went to rice.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So like I've, I have that love there. And yeah, I don't know. The new one really does it for me for whatever reason. I don't know how to look on a football helmet though. The owl mark. I think they call it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And it's just like, I think it's, it's weird because like if you had sort of skipped. Yeah. If you had sort of skipped the, the T I would like it a lot more, but like with the T it just feels like, what do you guys? Oh, this one, this by itself without the T I do like that. Yes. You like that one? I like it without the T.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. I don't like it with the T. I think if that goes on the helmets, it'll look sharp. And stick with, like, the traditional, like, double stripes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, when we get blown out by Oklahoma 75-something. At least we'll look nice. You gotta look good while you're getting blown out. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:16 If we show up with bootleg Temple merch, how much could we sell just in the parking lot? I wonder. I do, like, what I said on Sicko's committee where i think that like if you went to temple oklahoma in temple gear they like they look what beth is like they wouldn't know what to do with you no they they would be like oh can i get you a beer or something like like yeah i came from philly for this like when we when my friend and i went to old miss fresno state we were like yeah we're from philly they thought we meant philadelphia mississippi and we were like no philadelphia philadelphia pennsylvania and more than one person was like you came all this way like let me get you a beer i i i
Starting point is 00:12:54 because when we convince our our single elders let us go uh we should just bring a fucking wawa like plastic bag just filled with D-cells. Yeah, right. And try to get it into the stadium. Make them feel at home. Make them feel at home. What? I can't go anywhere without these.
Starting point is 00:13:13 This is my batteries. I need them. Do you got fucking batteries in the stadium? Yeah, they're probably like $20 a fucking battery. I bought these outside. I'm allowed to bring shit in here. I bought these outside. You just bought these from a guy I'm coughing, dude. There's a guy. There's a fucking battery. I bought these outside. I'm allowed to bring shit in here. I bought these outside. You just bought these from a guy I'm coughing, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:26 There's a guy. There's a guy. Yeah. See, the thing to where you don't know if you tailgated a Philly game, you got your typical whippets, loose cigarettes, and then D-cell batteries alongside the bootleg t-shirts and soft pretzels that are just in a cart. Like a shopping cart. The soft pretzels are just thrown into the cart. a shopping cart just the soft pretzels are just
Starting point is 00:13:45 thrown into the cart yeah just dumped i mean really truly just dumped it did they just dump the salt on the pretzels then so the pretzels all go in and then you just cover them in salt well they got to deal with pen dot with the road salt that they use they don't use oh yeah yeah surplus great yeah yeah yeah it helps it helps too with it's like a lot of his fracking fluid but they can't find a use for it so it's good for for your thyroid fuck i i'm i'm in texas i have no clue what's in my water it's fine i'll be dead long day before all y'all yeah there was there was a there was a scandal them using fracking fluid as as as roadway brine and they figured this out when uh the the state troopers
Starting point is 00:14:25 when they do the weigh-in stations their fucking radioactivity meters were going off. Beautiful. Love this state. Oh my god, we're going to kill everyone. Love this state. Well, I gotta say this. Hello and welcome
Starting point is 00:14:43 to another episode of 10,000 Losses, the only Philadelphia sports podcast that exists. Fuck you, writes Ricky Sanchez. Fuck you, Spock Eskin, directly. Mike, you're cool. I'm your host, Tom Payne. My pronouns are he and with me is my co-host, Ye. Liam.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Hi, I'm Liam Anderson. And as we mentioned, we have a guest who already introduced himself. Yeah. I jumped the gun. Sorry. That's Jordan from Sickos Committee. Yeah. I'm Jordan.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I have never been to, I've been to Philly once. It was for a weekend. I did like the typical shit. I like Liberty Bell and all that. Yeah. Just the typical shit. I was living in DC at the time. Liberty Bell, getting mugged.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Robbing a Wawa. Robbing a Wawa. You know what? Do you know what I found that Wawa stands for? What's that? Walk, walk away with anything. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Uh huh. That's what the, that's what the kids are saying these days. See, I come from a very sheets heavy podcast. So go me into Wawa territory. I feel like, well,
Starting point is 00:15:38 that's sheets. Sheets is better than Wawa. I, I begrudgingly have to admit that, you know, the Wawa, the Wawa, the halcyon days of my youth
Starting point is 00:15:45 No longer exists Used to be a deli where you could get Fresh shit And now it's Sadly all made in a plant In Wawa, Pennsylvania And shipped out At least the coffee's okay
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Starting point is 00:17:07 So, yeah, we're having a signals committee on for the sport that they cover the most on their podcast, baseball. Yeah. That's right. It's opening day. That was a default Zencaster drop. Why? That was loud, too. It was clear and loud.
Starting point is 00:17:27 We have never learned how to volume control our drops. Very amateur hour podcast, but who gives a shit? That's part of the fun. It began in 1803 as an iron foundry. Really? Okay. Yeah. It's about Wawa.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Huh. So, oh, that is weird. It just became a deli? Yeah, kind of unrelated. I don't know. So, we're recording this on opening day, Thursday the 28th of March,
Starting point is 00:18:01 but there's no Philly's opening day because there's a little bit of drizzle happening outside. Because they moved it. Yep. They moved it to fucking Friday. Which is fine because Jesus was crucified at 3 o'clock on Good Friday. The opener is at 3.05. So Castellanos Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Book it. One run for each nail. Four runs? Yeah. Was it 3 o'. Four runs? Yeah. Was it 3 o'clock Eastern time? Yeah, I don't... I was going to say it. Was it 3 o'clock Eastern time?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. I don't know if we have a... How they did time zones back in the day. Yeah. It's 3 p.m. Roman time. That's all you need to know. It's the only time in the Roman Empire. I don't know why I'm speaking with this voice.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I also don't know. Yeah. Okay, Liam. I'm actually back this voice. I also don't know. Yeah. Okay, Liam, I'm actually back with you. Not that voice. That's okay. Yeah. I'm with you. Well, it's like you watch a Roman.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Every TV show or movie set in Rome has British accents for Romans, and the working class Romans always have a fucking Cockney accent. What movies are you watching? HBO's Rome. That's not a movie. That was a television show. Mighty Python. Okay. Alright.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Great fucking movie! Yeah, do you want to talk about how we think the Phils are going to do this year, which I assume good-ish? I think we're a solid 90 assume good-ish? I think we're a solid 90-plus win team. I think
Starting point is 00:19:28 the only issues, which is already kind of has started to rear its head, is pitching depth in the rotation with Taiwan. Don't need them. I remember texting you saying, hey, look, Fangrass is saying we're going to have the best bullpen in the league.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I forget what your reaction was, but it was like, oh, it was like bold, huh? Incredulity. Yeah, you were incredulous, the idea that we're going to have. We watched this bullpen in person over the last two years, several years. We watched Cade Krimble, Kimbrel, pitch his way into L. Yeah, it was brutal. Yeah, so while he's not on the team,
Starting point is 00:20:06 he can't hurt us anymore. I was seeing on the O's note, it'll be an O's Phillies World Series. Craig Kimball redemption arc. Craig Kimball throws a perfect game. Game seven of the World Series. He's going to throw a perfect game? Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 00:20:20 The world's only one inning game. Yeah, why not? Craig Kimball gets hot. We suffer the consequences. The O's are one inning game. Yeah, why not? Craig Kimbrell gets hot. We suffer the consequences. The O's are brought to glory. I drive down to Baltimore and die of natty bow. Yeah, I do. We had said this before.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I do want the fucking I-95 World Series. I mean, I would like... When was the last time they won a World Series? Like, 83? I don't know. Yes, When was the last time they won a World Series? Like, 83? I don't know. Yes, it was the 95 Series, yes. 83. Yeah, against us.
Starting point is 00:20:54 That sucks. Oh, good. The Orioles are already up 11-1 on the Angels. Y'all, the Angels might be bad this year. Yeah. You think? Oh, God. And who has the one Angels run?
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's Mike Trout! Oh, yeah. yeah uh you think god and who has the one angels run it's mike trout thank you i love to go deaf during my own podcast thank you uh mike trout bring him home boy bring bring the boy up boys he doesn't want to be here he comes back this is where he lives doesn't he live doesn't he go back to fucking millville every year to like go like play in the swamp or something like that i don't know fly a confederate flag and like shoot at shoobies what else is in millville i don't know i i pass it on the way to the shore i guess Gotham is in the Delaware Bay where Millville is.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Okay. I mean, that makes sense. And Metropolis is across the bay down where, I don't know, Dover Air Force Base is. Oh, okay. Because, you know, the terrain,
Starting point is 00:22:00 if you're not familiar, it's a large estuary, Jordan, which is perfectly suited for massive fucking buildings. Yeah, for putting giant skyscrapers on sand. Oh, yeah. That's great. And swamp.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah, love it. Yeah, so opening day. Let's see. Let's opening day tracker. Orioles, Angels. The Angels are losing, are they? Oh, yeah. 11 to 1.
Starting point is 00:22:21 They're getting their doors blown off. Oh, 11 to 1. we got, let's see, the Yankees are losing. Yeah, I got the text about that. That was pretty angry. That emotionally feels good. Okay. The Reds are beating the Nationals 7-0 thing. The Pirates are losing already.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Oh, that'll make everyone on my podcast feel normal. The Tigers scored a run, so that's nice nice and the dodgers are up five to one oh i do want to talk about a thing in baseball that we haven't uh covered in a bit which is wander franco he is on he is on administrative leave officially uh so they are still continuing their investigation. You need to slap a trigger warning on here for sexual assault. Wanda Franco is alleged to have had sex with a 14 year old girl when he was 21 in the DR. May have had a relationship with her. That's fucking gross. I don't know why this is taking so long.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Ban his ass already. He only now has been removed from their 40 man it was like in the last couple days yeah dude it's like what what what uh i don't i don't know that's fucking weird but speaking of baseball you want to talk about shohei otani and the and the pete rose level of scandal i'm hoping for yeah it's just dude a lot fucking happens since the last time we recorded it. Like right there, Jordan. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'm good. This is this, this one is, is, is such an intersection of sports gambling and baseball and someone who is, you know, yeah, this is just like the perfect intersection of things.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So, so Shohei Otani, uh, late of the angels now now the dodgers um is basically the best baseball player since babe ruth um uh i believe you mean ted williams that's okay okay yeah yeah i'm sorry did you ever hit 400 in the season i mean like maybe the first game okay no so no you didn't okay no i never had a batting average that high i did have a one base percentage that was pretty high because I was good at leaning in.
Starting point is 00:24:25 We've thought about that. So it's correct. So yeah, he's very private, but he's supposed to be this big, lovable goofball, though he did shill NFTs at one point. So his translator, Ipe, and of course, I'm going to... Mizuhara? Yeah, plus enough.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I think I stuck the landing there. So at first it came, it was weird. And I don't want to trade ground that people have already covered. Basically, he got fired from the Dodgers after it came out that at first it was like, Oh no, Shohei transferred four and a half million dollars, uh, to this illegal sports book operation in California, um, to cover,
Starting point is 00:25:11 cover Ipe's, his, his translators gambling debt. And now it's, it seems to have come out that basically, you know, Ipe was doing it without his permission. He stole the money.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Like he took advantage, uh, of Shohei. It's what it seems like. And that he's like a catch-me-if-you-can type of motherfucker who lied about his bona fides and
Starting point is 00:25:35 got onto the team with sweet gig, 500 grand a year to just be in the hangout with baseball players 24-7. Being the dugout. 500 grand a year and just be in the hangout with baseball players like 24 7 like being a dugout i mean that's a pretty 500 grand a year and still stealing shit like yeah four and a half million dollars is a lot of money i would simply not gamble and just enjoy my salary personally i mean i know that cost of living in la is is more expensive i still think 500 grand a year could
Starting point is 00:26:00 get you a pretty you're doing okay yeah pretty pretty living a decent life out in LA. So this raises a whole shitload of questions. And people on this podcast, we've been saying that it's only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time until this is the closest we've gotten, at least in
Starting point is 00:26:22 baseball, to a player gambling. Yeah, this is Rudy Gobert licking the microphones. I have used that analogy for so many different things. Yes, you're absolutely right. It is Rudy Gobert licking the microphones. It's also, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 the sort of another scandal we haven't talked about is that Michael Porter Jr's brother, John Tate Porter, who's a forward for the toronto raptors is also under investigation by the nba for multiple instances of betting irregularities uh about prop bets it's very weird uh i i do think a lot of it is like i i know that somebody said like i've been getting death threats somebody in sports it's like i've been getting death threats from betters we we are on the precipice of something real nasty uh we don't bet on sports um i i i at this point i i had a draft fox account uh i no longer do. I just, I have
Starting point is 00:27:26 gotten to the point where I think just because it's been shoved in my throat so damn much that I just like recoil at the thought of sports betting. I'm in it for the love of miserable goddamn baseball. Yeah. What happens to me is I don't bet either.
Starting point is 00:27:41 None of the folks at the podcast of Versiccos, we don't really bet either because it goes against not, it doesn't go against like our credo, but it changes how you watch the game. Yeah, it does. And I would rather sit there and whatever outcome, especially if it's two teams,
Starting point is 00:27:57 I don't like, I'm sort of neutral on I'm rooting for just giant chaos and wildness. And the minute I have money on it, it changes it. And I, eh, it's not for me yeah like like at my school i'm like known as the the sports guy and i'll have i've had like people ask me i've had fucking kids ask me they should bet on i was like dude you're not 21 the fuck you don't no and like no like like it's it's like, okay, well this, this thing that, that we
Starting point is 00:28:27 all love, like we were saying in the intro, like this competition, whatever form of competition is excellence is this competence or lack thereof, um, that, that drives this, the, the love of sport, um, has, it's just, it's just like something else. It's getting subsumed into, yeah, something far darker, uh, something that's, it's just like something else, it's getting subsumed into, yeah, something far darker, something that's a habit, something that destroys lives, something, you know, yeah, just, you're not watching the game out of the love, you're watching the game because you want to make some money.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And, yeah, as soon as you start getting, like where players are getting death threats stuff like that like we we didn't just legalize sports betting in this country we just completely fucking went into it full tilt yeah yeah exactly there was no there was no sort of um i i just like the thing that i don't understand right when we're talking about betting is like the amount of which it's crept into every part of sports yeah like local news coverage like 6abc is presented by draft kings and it's like and it's just like i don't really care if sports gambling is legal or not like i don't right but like this shouldn't be allowed to advertise right
Starting point is 00:29:37 and we should be allowed to like cigarette like cigarettes it should be like cigarettes right there should be no advertisers and at this point i believe that like it should be like cigarettes. There should be no advertisers. And at this point, I believe that it should be confined to casinos. Like, I just, like, whatever. Like, if you want to put, if you want to throw $20 on, like, a Phillies game, like, I don't give a shit, right? If you're willing to go down to Comcast, what's it called, Xfinity Live, and throw $20 on it, like, I don't give a shit. It doesn't bother me. Or go up to parks but like what i what it's just like oh like this guy doesn't hit the under here's my 25 leg parlay that's like gonna make me rich it's like dude like this sucks this isn't fun anymore have having it on your phone and being
Starting point is 00:30:17 able just to pull it up and anytime like that has changed the it's no longer this very intentional. I am taking my money to a casino. Here is my money. It is. I am sitting here and like half watching something. And with the same breath that I'm, you know, I just got on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I'm just, I'm spending, betting 25 bucks. I just got an ad from the Phillies swing for the fences with the king of sports books. And it's just a bet mjm up to 1500 in bonus bets if you don't win that's the entire thing and it's like dude this is this sucks yeah sports sport if you made me this the the you know if if i had the wide-ranging um joseph
Starting point is 00:31:01 stalinist powers that the they think that that biden has. If you turn me into that, I would immediately like there is no not only is there no advertising for gambling, it's legal. It's legal at the casino. And that's it only no apps. And there's no mention of it in there. You can't it can't be associated with the league at all in any way. But having a like DraftKingsings an official partner of Major League Baseball fucking blows.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Pete Rose is a piece of shit. We've said this many times. He deserves many deaths. In many universes, yes. It's not for betting. He is right that the MLB is hypocritical about it. That's broken clock.
Starting point is 00:31:43 He is right. Them 30 years ago, it would be on there. The commissioner's office would be like, there's absolutely no chance of this happening. There's this is completely against the spirit of the game. I mean, how wild is it that Vegas now is going to have three professional sports teams, which for so long, Vegas was a pariah. No one would move there because it would that meant you were involved with gambling and no one would do that. That's why would you put anything in Vegas?
Starting point is 00:32:13 And now there are basketball, like college basketball conferences from all over that want to have events in Vegas. And now the Vegas Bowl is one of the bigger events. And now they're going to have three professional teams when that would have been unthinkable 15 years ago right and it's i mean it's a matter of time before the nba moves there too but oh for sure they'll get four yeah right they'll go four for four but like the thing that i think really bothers me about it is just hearing like maybe it's just because i'm not the target audience but hearing like basically college kids be like, yeah, my part was like this and that. And the third thing I was talking to someone,
Starting point is 00:32:48 uh, I was talking to like, like someone who I would think was like a, like reasonable, normal person. I forget where. And he was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:57 you know, my parlay didn't hit me. I'm like, fuck this. Like, and I was like, dude, it's like,
Starting point is 00:33:01 like this, like, I thought we were like having a normal ass conversation about sports. And I think that like one of the things I really like about Sicko's Committee is like I'm more interested in like sports are better when they're worse. Right. And just the like – I don't want to – not even from a moralistic place. It's not my money. It's not my money.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I don't really give a shit with like what people do with their money, but I'm sick of having it jammed down my throat. I'm just sick. I'm just sick of seeing it. I'm sick of like opening ESPN and like right there is like ESPN bet. I don't fucking deal with this. That one. Even more so than the conferences, the leagues being in bed with them. ESPN having their own sports book skeeves the shit out of me for so many
Starting point is 00:33:48 reasons. Me too. And the NBA being like, Oh, we're going to put live lines on NBA league pass. It's like, okay, well like what,
Starting point is 00:33:57 what, I mean, fuck Pete Rose. What does he ban for that? It's, it's just like, it's like we got, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The Mormon church coming out with their own booze, you know, like it's just like it's like we got i don't know the mormon church coming out with their own booze you know like it's just like it's just weird it just it's incestuous and it feels wrong and it feels like yeah grim yeah i'm looking forward to the to the the bring them young brown ale yeah i just i i i yeah i'm i'm sick of just having this in my face every goddamn day i'm sick of like just seeing it every goddamn day you know uh and i i think that i think that ultimately like the reckoning is going to come and what that looks like i don't know. I'm sort of skeptical of Major League Baseball's investigation into Otani, although I also believe that he probably, more or less, didn't know and wanted to get his friend out of a tight situation. And his friend, his confidant, his bell bellman his like whatever his everything right and like i i don't
Starting point is 00:35:06 believe that i believe shohay otani would have the wherewithal to be like dude i'm about to sign for 700 million like i'm not gonna fuck that up yeah but i also know that like psychologically addiction does weird stuff to you yeah you know and i i do think like some guy on a 2a for the raptors is absolutely going to get sacrificed yeah yeah whether and i i saw that the ncaa and uh the ncaa is trying to ban prop bets on college ball which i think is good like because because there's no reason like even with nil like if you came to me and were like here's 50 000 in a duffel to shoot for less than $20,000, I'm taking that money. You're insane to think I wouldn't take that money.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Remember Shabazz Napier being like, oh yeah, sometimes we don't have enough to eat in 2013 when you caught makers of that run? You're insane to think I wouldn't take $50,000 or whatever amount of money. A prop bet is so hard to, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:07 obviously there could be patterns, but that's the hardest kind of bet to really like, you know, detect. The only ones that really get caught are like that stupid ass Alabama baseball folks that were like, Hey, look at my phone. I have the inside information casino.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Like, look at me. I have the info. Let me bet. Like that asshole got busted because he was being an idiot. Right. But for the prop bet stuff, like this is,
Starting point is 00:36:32 this is also the other thing about college sports betting in general is that there are so many teams doing so many things. Like it is, it is one of the places where if you have a little bit of information, it is very asymmetric and but i can imagine like student athletes i say student athletes fuck that why did i say that why these athletes are getting just harassed by adults it's it's the same skeevy thing as people tweeting at recruits and just being shit shitty to like, 17-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. Like, don't do this. Why is this so hard? Right. And, you know, like I said, I think that, like, you know, there's going to come a time where, like, somebody, like, has, somebody has thrown a, like, we're going to get a 1919, like, Black Sox scandal. Oh, yeah. 100%. We're're gonna get that um i do i do think that like that's sort of what we what like at least me and probably tom and maybe jordan are all sort of waiting on
Starting point is 00:37:31 is like the black socks level like yeah like we threw this on purpose for for the purposes of betting it's gonna happen it's gonna happen i think it's inevitable i and and like i'm you know my fear is like with with mlb you know my baseball's my favorite sport like seeing that kind of scandal rock the game and then they don't do anything about it right and then baseball suddenly just becomes sports entertainment and that's that's that's even more just depressing the idea that this will happen and they just go i can see that happening i mean they get They did it for the Astros. They just didn't give a shit. Manfred
Starting point is 00:38:10 just didn't care. And there was huge... I mean, Manfred will go down in history as a worse fucking commissioner than the fucking guys who upheld the fucking color line. You know, if you say, who's the worst commissioner of baseball to an average baseball fan,
Starting point is 00:38:26 they're going to say Rob Manfred. They're not going to say Kennesaw Mountain Landis. It was probably Kennesaw Mountain Landis. Uh, he was a piece of shit, but you know, he was also the, the,
Starting point is 00:38:34 the Black Sox guy, I believe. Right. before I sound like an idiot. Uh, yeah, it was, Oh no,
Starting point is 00:38:41 he was in, he was appointed in response. Hmm. He was, he was appointed because he was a lawyer, a judge. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I mean, if we could go back to good old-fashioned corruption,
Starting point is 00:38:56 like the SMU Pony Express, where it's just like we are openly paying these players and we openly don't give a shit. Like, come and take it. I'm, you know, like, NIL is fine, but frustrating where it's just like, we're going to legislate this for 10 years. And like, the end result is we were just going to pay these kids. We're treading water. We're just treading water. We're just treading water.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Right. Like, it's coming, you know. And your alma mater, Jordan, has started the basketball union. I was so happy about that. And a lot of people, Dartmouth isn't a great basketball school. I'm going to share this with you all in case you don't know this. Dartmouth is traditionally not a basketball power. I think the last time they went to the tournament was 1940.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Oof. Yeah. But you don't have to be good to be in a union. I have to keep reminding people, like, that's not the point. The point is to collectively bargain. And it looks like they're going to pave the way, which I am incredibly proud of. Because the NCAA refused to do anything about this. They thought they were going to get bailed out by the courts or by Congress.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And they didn't. And so the NIL came around and they went, well, I guess it's just open season now. And now we're trying to put shit back in the box. It's not going to fit. It ain't going to go back in the box. So I'm just here for the ride. There will always be some. We keep joking over at Sickos to starting like NIL stuff and like finding some D3 school to just funnel money at their O-line or something to advertise us or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Because that's like the NIL greatness, right? In my mind, it's the O-line that gets free hamburgers and gets to advertise a barbecue joint. Like that's the fun stuff. Eat more beef or whatever they do. Like the beef producers of Iowa. Like that's... All right.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I already have the team. I don't know if they have a football team, but we're going to start one. The Arcadia Beavers. Beaver College. We used to be called Be beaver college they changed their name for a reason arcadia let's go let's get a fucking o-line for arcadia here we go love it they do not field football by guy they will they will after we okay some they're doing wrestling now i got i got kicked out of the gym there uh for their fucking uh bands wasn't football obviously i don't know i was very pissed i was like you know i paid tuition to use this gym right you know you can't take every fucking squat rack well we actually can
Starting point is 00:41:20 i was like all right cool they're in something called the Mid-Atlantic Conference Freedom. Yeah, so the Mid-Atlantic Conference is actually split into two conferences. It's pretty weird. Okay. So this is a D3 conference, and I unfortunately can speak too much about this. So York College, beautiful York, Pennsylvania is part of the, the Mac. So it's split into freedom and Commonwealth. Uh, for whatever reason, which is leaders in legend shit right there.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, I love it. Yeah. Commonwealth is like mostly central Pennsylvania and then hood college out in Frederick, Maryland. Okay. And like Widener is in, is in this and Albright. Uh, and then like Val go. Yeah. Yeah. Go Mac freedom is just like everybody else. And like Widener is in this and Albright. Oh, DelVal, go Aggies. Yeah, Mac Freedom is just like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:42:12 DelVal was the best Aggie team in the country this year. Oh, fucking hell yeah. Of all the Aggies that played football, they were the best football Aggies this year. I went to a fucking event at DelVal because I lived not too far from them. And I had to fucking fix their beer lines for them because they had no one there. None of their bartenders knew how to do beer lines. And I was like, listen, I used to be a home brewer. I used to actually almost be a pro brewer. I can fix this for you real quick.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And they're like, sure. What are they teaching at that school? Come on now. They're teaching horse stuff. Did you know, fun del val fact, burpee that's that's where burpee is from yeah um that is where iceberg lettuce was invented so if you hate iceberg lettuce you can thank delver valley university also burpee huge trump donors so yeah uh what's weird is that delval was founded by a a reform rabbi Oh. I don't think the college
Starting point is 00:43:06 isn't, the university doesn't have a reputation for being chuds, but Buck Burpee does. Everyone's got chuds. Everyone's got chuds. We have Bill Cosby, dude. Yeah, that's true. And there's probably other really bad temple grads out there we can't just think of off the top of our heads. Yeah, I'm sure there's bastards.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Probably like politicians. Yeah. I got Dinesh D'Souza and fucking Lauren Ingram. And Dr. Seuss. Plus like a bunch of secretaries of treasury. Like, you know, I can say absolutely nothing. They're all asses. Our notable
Starting point is 00:43:38 alumni, Bill Cosby, is the first person. Of course he is. Daryl Hall. Hall of Notes, yeah. Ed Bundy. Yeah, but he only attended for like a semester, though. Doesn't count, doesn't count. John Street, former mayor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. Diplo. Bob Saget. Oh, Mark Levin. Ugh. It just says list of Temple University people. I guess because it includes people who weren't graduates yeah see now i gotta try to get i need to get liam on there hold up
Starting point is 00:44:11 quinta brunson uh it's really funny because she uh she went to temple and dropped out uh and then in uh in the show abbott elementary she's like, oh yeah, I went to Penn. Like, her character went to Penn. And it's like, what's wrong with Temple? Like, it would be more believable if you had just gone to Temple. Ugh. There's too many names in here. Yeah, we gotta get at it, Liam.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, we'll get you on. Yeah, unlike Liam, I actually hold the diploma from there. Ooh la la. Yeah, go Butchers baby go scarlet knights hell yeah i uh yeah it's it's i don't know where my diploma is my parents lost it and i just like have not bothered to get another one actually those are my wife's diplomas mine's in the basement but but it is from there same thing thing. Close enough. No one's looking that close. I, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Do you want to move on to voicemails? Yeah, sure. Did you want to mention anything? We'll fucking cover it next time. We lost a harder return. I guess that's the... Yeah, we did. We, uh, on some bullshit calls, but they don't, it's fine. Yeah, like by one.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And, uh, what, fucking the bead has been shown in practice. So he's coming back. He's going to be arrested for the playoffs and then you're going to get destroyed in the second round by the Boston Celtics. Woo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 This is where Liam's Liam's, uh, hold on. Just keep talking. Start talking, Liam. Yeah. This is where,
Starting point is 00:45:44 uh, uh hold on just uh keep talking start talking liam yeah this is where uh this shit has got to be unlistenable i gotta a study. I think the more drops, the proportionally, the more listeners we get. I like that. Like there are episodes of W2IP that I like, I consider unlistenable. I have,
Starting point is 00:46:16 there's, I have a couple of those episodes when I used to edit that are unlistenable. Yeah. The two worst episodes of W2IP are the ssl pharaoh and the merchant of free enterprise why is that there was a really because there's no liam on it there was no liam on that because i was uh elsewhere don't worry about me that's why they're the worst um uh yeah so i guess i so just real quick metric Metric Mike had DM'd us.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Sounds like there's going to be big news with the LSU. The Kim Mulkey story, which hasn't come out yet. Hasn't come out yet. Come on. Someone drop this. Give me a draft. He's something. Yeah, he said that, I guess Mike's got a WAPO subscription, so he'll give us a gift link when it drops.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Thank you. So thanks. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate it. We do got a couple couple listener voicemails um ready to go uh one is someone we haven't had in a long time someone who actually uh was a guest on bonus um someone whose mother hates liam uh yeah at the end i have it uh yeah yeah i did put it in there um So we have Etienne du Quebec.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And Etienne wants to talk about Formula 1 for a minute. So let me click that. Hi, this is Etienne. I know it's not your area of interest, but this is your semi-official Formula 1 correspondent. And so this year, Max Verstappen and Red Bull are continuing their brutal era of dominant repression by winning literally everything again. However, Red Bull is falling apart in a very strange way because it all kicked off when a female member of the F1 of the Red Bull team filed a internal team complaint for improper uh basically like sexual harassment at works
Starting point is 00:48:17 against um Christian Horner the team leader which was then taken up as an internal investigation by Red Bull, the drinks company, which owns the team. And two weeks later, the team found that no wrongdoing has been done, which we have zero detail about any of this. So we don't really know anything about it, but I will choose to believe that there's at least something wrong there. So that was supposed to, in theory, close the book on this, but now there are, it's basically like a intercompany turf war that has been kicked off in 2022 when Dietrich Max Dietrich died, who is the founder, the co-founder of the Red Bull Drinks Energy, who basically was like the guy behind the F1 team effort and was always like supportive of Horner and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And there's another faction, which is the other co-founder, which I forgot his name. So you have this extremely strange situation where, you know, and then Josh Verstappen, which is Max's dad, said a sexual harassment on the workplace complaint, which is insanely fucked up and weird and makes everyone look really bad. So do we have like this situation where Red Bull will keep continue winning on the like for the foreseeable future, unless every key member of the team leaves because this is too icky. It's so weird. I'm going to keep watching this garbage.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Thanks for the podcast. Have a good day. Liam, I know you're the closest. Jordan, I don't know if you follow Formula One at all. But Liam, I know you're closest to sports. I couldn't find anything. It seems like nothing else has come out about this yet. No, I know you're like closest to sports. I, I, I'm trying to, I couldn't find anything. Like, it seems like nothing else has come out about this yet. No, I haven't seen anything else.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah. Once, once, once they said that they had found him, nothing happened. They just dropped it. No one has said a single thing. Yeah. We'll say that Max Verstappen's car did have an issue last race and he did not win that race. Ferrari got a win, which made a lot of people very happy. And I,
Starting point is 00:50:47 I think the guy that won, don't quote me on this, uh, Carlos signs. I think he's the one that no longer has a seat at Ferrari next year. As, as you do, as you do racing cars.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Um, yeah, I, I have never, I've never really gotten into any, any form of car racing. I like NASCAR. You are a loser, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I still like you. Oh, isn't that sweet? Um, all right. Uh, our next voicemail is, well, and Etienne, thanks for, thanks for, uh, calling and letting us know that. Keep us updated if anything else happens, um, or anything else crazy happens up there in Quebec. We got Wayne, regular listener. Let's
Starting point is 00:51:30 say. Hey, Tom. Hey, Liam. It's Wayne. Pronoun to him. Calling after our wild weekend for St. Patrick's Day weekend in Dublin.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I managed to go to see Bohemians versus Derry City. Bohemians not playing very well. They actually set fire to their manager the week before. I thought he said set fire to them.
Starting point is 00:52:03 That's what I heard too. First match there. You got to say great atmosphere, great stadium. Both went to one with goals from from from Rooney and a guy by the name of James. I can tell they incredible atmosphere. There are there were flares incredible support and you guys definitely have to look up
Starting point is 00:52:31 more information on Bohemians, it's a club you guys everybody I think will really like anyway go Rutgers and fuck Penn State that's right baby we don't do enough road flares in the States and crowds.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Have you noticed that? You're saying this. You're 100% right. We got to do more road flares. Once again. I've seen smoke flares at Union Game. So like,
Starting point is 00:52:54 I think MLS is a little more tolerant of it. I don't know if they're supposed to, but I would love, well, I would love to be able to bring like flash bangs in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Like when the Braves are in town, just a flash bang. Fuck you, Spencer Schreider. Just imagine, just imagine pit fans giving them road flares and flash bangs hell yeah hell yeah for the brawl for the backyard brawl hell yeah yeah oh i gotta find i gotta find the one i might have posted on twitter there was like one ai generated art that was that i got to do it. It was, it was Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh football team spiking a football on the corpse of, uh, fuck fucking what's his name?
Starting point is 00:53:32 The head coach. I can't say, I can't draw his name. Joe Paterno. Joe Paterno. Thank you. Spiking the football, Joe Paterno's head in hell.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Um, I had to find, that was a good one. Magnificent. Um, yeah, we definitely wrote, I got to look up the Bohemians, though.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I'm going to Ireland in the summer. So they're a lefty team. I have to show you guys something in the chat. We were doing merch earlier. I really like this Temple Law folding umbrella. Where does it say Temple Law? Does it say Temple Law folding umbrella. It really... Where does it say Temple Law? Is it Temple Law anywhere?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Then I scrolled up a fanatics experience. Yeah. Yep. So great job. Great job, guys. It is just a pink umbrella. Yeah, I'm going to put that on Twitter. It's great.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, that's beautiful. I love my texture not loaded. Graphics area on Unreal Engine. Fucking ass umbrella. Terrible. This would fucking suck. Alright.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Thanks for calling in, Wayne. I hope you got the wings at the Black Sheep Pub, like I said. Shouts out to the Black Sheep in Dublin. If you've never been there, you go there. All right. And our other soccer fan, Charlie. He might yell, so be forewarned. Yeah, there's two volumes of Charlie.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Calm and screaming, like, so be forewarned. There's two volumes of Charlie. Calm and screaming, like with guns going off behind him. Yeah, he's, you know, he's either loud or quiet. It's a binary switch. We got Charlie. Let's listen to what he's got to say.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Hey, guys. Hey, Tom. Yay, Liam. Charlie from Roxborough, he him Recounting Two Union Road Games last week Game in Austin The first game against Austin FC
Starting point is 00:55:35 Ended 2-2 Union looked good for the first 55 minutes Then gave up two goals Was up a goal then gave up two And got the late tie. We were getting the late goal to tie it. Then, you know, MLS not stopping during international breaks. Union only started with 16 players out in Portland.
Starting point is 00:55:57 No problem as Julian Carranza gets a brace plus a Quinsolven goal off of Jamiro Rafa. Rafa Fino shot cross, scored the rebound off of that to beat Portland 3-1. No local teams in the Open Cup this week because both Westchester, United,
Starting point is 00:56:22 and the team from Warminster, very German name, both lost 2-0. So there's no rooting interest, but Taqueria did beat an MLS 2 team, and Vermont Green did go in the next round. So, you know, we'll be back home to a hopefully dry field for Saturday against Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Later, fellas. I had to look at Westchester United. They have the fucking, like, double-headed Byzantine eagle as their fucking logo for some reason. Oh, my. Uh-oh. Oh, dear. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's it's just bam or jared this is supporting the
Starting point is 00:57:09 third row um oh geez he's like i yeah i don't know what's going on at the stadium kid dale kill dares field i don't like that we're at kid there's pub field um nickname the predators Nicknamed the Predators If I look If I Google Google Kildare's Field The first thing is A Waze Like Waze directions to it Which tells you
Starting point is 00:57:33 Never said Oh boy Oh boy This is great This is the first time I've used Waze in years Show reviews We got reviews Nice field
Starting point is 00:57:44 Plenty of park i'm one of the wiser one-star review tell me the greatest place on earth blotted all the time absolutely um have you ever been to westchester pennsylvania home of bam margera i have how about you jordan have you ever been no never been to westchester it's actually a pretty it's a cute town put it on my list put it put it on my list for my Pennsylvania tour one of these days. Yeah, county seat. Yeah, I'm hitting all the county seats. I got Westchester, Doylestown.
Starting point is 00:58:13 If you do that, come say hi. Norristown, what's Delco? What's Delco's county seat? Media. Yeah, Media's a cute town. And then Philadelphia, of course, is the capital of Philadelphia County. What a shock. Co-terminus with the city of Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It's a consolidation act. Alright, speaking of Pennsylvania, we have a very excellent Pennsylvania guest. The man who unionized all the toilet factories in Pittsburgh. We got John from Pittsburgh. From Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:58:46 How you doing? John from Pittsburgh. We got John from Pittsburgh. From Pittsburgh. How you doing? John from Pittsburgh. He, him. Wanted to give you a quick call on the way to work. It's about 547. Heading down the Godforsaken highways in New Jersey right now.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Listening to the latest podcast. Just a couple quick questions for you. One, hail to Pitt. How are you feeling about Kenny Pickett being your backup quarterback for Jalen Hurts? He didn't do too well at Pittsburgh, or Pitt for that matter, but I think you got an interesting backup there. And as you were talking about the Washington commanders,
Starting point is 00:59:38 I must say that with their recent trades, I had tried to take a shot every time I had to tell a relative in the DMV to trust the process, but I had to switch over to energy drinks as to not develop alcoholism. I'm interested to hear your voice takes. Hail to Penn State, and have a good one. Thanks, John. I'm going to say something insane. All right, go ahead. Do it. So, Kenny Pickett was supposed to go to Temple
Starting point is 01:00:08 and flipped his commitment to the pit. I thought Kenny Pickett should have won the goddamn Heisman in 2021. That is my real bad take. He was third. He was third in voting, but I thought
Starting point is 01:00:23 he should have won the damn thing. Yeah. I don't entirely disagree with you there. Not a great take on that. A lot of high flute in the ivory tower, Heisman committee types have a real bias against Monmouth County, New Jersey. And I will not have it on this podcast. Don't speak ill of Ocean Township like this. Ocean Township has a cane brewing,
Starting point is 01:00:51 which is delicious. The cane is actually really good. I will say that a member of my podcast, Pit Girl, today was at the Steelers Megastore in Breezewood and just picked up a clearance kitty picket Steelers jersey for 20 bucks. You backstabbed. Hell yes for 20 bucks. I have that.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Hell yes. Hell yeah. That's horrific. Might as well. Might as well while it's getting good. Yeah. If Pit Girl has a union job at a toilet factory, that's thanks to John. There you go.
Starting point is 01:01:19 What was the other question that John had asked? Either you remember? How do we feel about Kenny Pickett? Yeah. Fine. Quarterback Factory? Yeah, I don't know about that, but fine. Howie Roseman's QB's.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Howie Roseman's QB wild ride. Oh, man. I got shut. The Philadelphia Inquirer, when they put out notifications on their app, they put them out like three times, and I misread it as Howie Roseman's going to leave the Eagles the other day, and I got very scared to text it Liam.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I was like, what? No. Yeah, that would panic me too, yeah. No, not Howie. No, it's just like the salary cap guy. Salary cap guy, though, which is still, yeah. That's still, yeah. So, yeah. Oh, about the commanders. Any thoughts thoughts on fuck them fuck we don't
Starting point is 01:02:09 i'm i'm tangentially a cowboys fan so i just don't say shit all right start talking again start talking i'm tangentially a cowboy This is the year, baby. This is the year. Second round exit this time, baby. That's fucking funny. Yeah. How's Dak Prescott doing with that investigation? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I will say that I have never seen the Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. I have seen the six man Texas high school football championship at AT&T Stadium. That does sound like it fucking rules though. That sounds. Oh, it is. That is great. Cause it is nothing but like the field is narrower and shorter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And basically if you get past the last guy, there's no one there. Right. So the scores are all like 100 to 90. It's great. What I would love is to go see the smallest Texas high school football field, which is probably bigger than some D3 schools.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Oh, yeah. And just like 10,000 people turning out. That must be experience. So I live actually wedged in between two of the larger stadiums. The one right south of me in Allen, Texas seats 18,000. Jesus Christ. Fucking hell. And the one in my city, McKinney, seats...
Starting point is 01:03:37 Well, the one in McKinney is where they actually have the D2 college championship. I go to it every year because they have it just down the road. Right, of course. And I got to watch Harding throw two passes over Colorado school of mines and beat them by like 40. It was great. Nice. The McKinney stadium seats.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Do they not tell me how much it's really a city of McKinney? Oh, 12,000. Sorry. 12,000. So it's a little smaller. Still. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I wonder, I wonder who has the biggest Frankfurt high school affiliate, Philly, has a pretty big one. I wonder. I don't know what the capacity is, though. My county right now is, all the school districts in my county right now are, it's an arms race. People are just opening up new stadiums because we're growing very quickly, for better or worse. So now everyone's building these, like, giant stadiums because the cities down the road have them. Oh, wow. No, go ahead. building these like giant stadiums because the cities down the road have them. This is awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Good. No, good. Oh, the Allen state, the $18,000 one, funnily enough, when they built it,
Starting point is 01:04:31 it was shut down the first year because of cracks in the concrete noise. And they had to play every home game in the city next door. That's horrific. While they sued the shit out of the people that did it. Yeah. I'm, I'm looking at, I'm looking at my,
Starting point is 01:04:43 my local high school, central bucks West. And they got, um, they got fucking 4,000. the people that did it. I'm looking at my local high school, Central Bucks West, and they got fucking 4,000. I can't find my high school. What would be? Oh, yeah, we don't want to say what catchment. But you'd be a pretty large catchment.
Starting point is 01:04:57 No, I mean, I'm talking about where I went to high school. Oh, where you went to high school? Yeah, it's called Dick Mayfield. Mayfield? It's called Dick Mayfield. Mayfield? It's called Dick Mayfield. Really is. Any relation to Baker? No, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Dick space May space field. Oh, I thought like Dick Mayfield Stadium. No, not Dick Mayfield. Nah, dude. Apparently the largest one in Texas that's for high school football only is about 20,000. Wow. Yeah. It gets real big real fast. I mean, there are
Starting point is 01:05:28 Division I stadiums that are pretty... Yeah. Alright, well, we got one last voicemail. All the way from Australia. The Lames favorite. My favorite voice idea. This is a good one.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You don't want the British one. No, that one you can put up this one, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you gotta let them all. No, I'm on the spot. Alright. Anyway, you got Newky
Starting point is 01:06:00 from Melbourne. Who goes by Patrick? Let's listen to what Newky has to say. Boys, how we doing? Newky here. My pronouns are he and him. Reporting to you, I would say live, but pre-recorded from Melbourne. So today I went to my first AFL game of the year.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It was the North Melbourne Kangaroos, you know, because Australia, and the Fremantle Dockers, my beloved Fremantle Dockers. And I'm glad to say that we won, even though sometimes it looked a bit dicey, you know. So, man, AFL is such a great game to watch. Like, it was cool because I didn't get an actual ticket.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I just got general admission. And I was by myself. And so the stadium was like pretty much full, but almost everyone was from like the North Melbourne team that was like supporting. So I got to stand at their goals as like the free-o score slowly climbed up and up and I just got to hear all those people just lose their fucking minds.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It was great. I think that's kind of one of the best things about sport is that when a team that you're not supporting or that you know you you actively dislike when their fans get annoyed and you know the freemantle dockers have been you know arguably the worst team ever we haven't won a single grand final but you know at some point we might get there uh presumably not but it's a possibility. My question is, what was, like, the most satisfying game for you to see? You know, for you to, like, witness, like, physically in person at a match?
Starting point is 01:07:38 You know, and obviously this is with any sport in the U.S., you know, NFL, NHL, you know, baseball, I suppose. Lacrosse, I guess, too. Whatever those American sports are. That's about it. I'm attempting to keep these messages a bit shorter. I think I've got a bit too much theater kid in me where I need to, like, separate the words a bit. So, yeah, I apologize. Go, birds.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Fuck Penn State. Yeah, what's separating words? I words never heard of that that's not no that's not um dukey you're you're fine you're fine no exactly um so the most compelling uh sports event you ever ever ever witnessed in person i guess question here compelling yeah most compelling match you ever watched uh oh four lcs oh four lcs oh that's a big one yeah 2023 but go ahead i'll say 2023 cotton bowl that was usc two lane oh hell yeah two wins 46 45 they're down 37 45 45. Sorry, they were down. Yeah, sorry. They were down 37, 45 with like four minutes left. It was 30, 45 with like four minutes left. And they just come screaming back.
Starting point is 01:08:56 TyJ Spears was great. It was one of the best games I ever went to. I went to it for $10. Nice. Because no one wanted to go see Tulane. And I went in my, I have more Tulane gear because of home field apparel. And I just went
Starting point is 01:09:08 and it was the best game I've ever seen. It was so much fun. That's so cool, dude. Yeah, it was a great game. So that's the, yeah, a good close match. I mean, I would say like, like just any game I've ever watched
Starting point is 01:09:19 would probably have to be Super Bowl 52. Oh yeah. And Dookie was DMing me and asking about what are some essential football games to watch. I was like, well, if you're listening to the Philly Sports Podcast, Super Bowl 52 is actually a genuinely excellent, amazing close. One of the best Super Bowls ever played, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, it's the highest most watched Super Bowl, I believe, of all time. It is very watchable, which is not something you can say about most Super Bowls. Yeah. So, I mean, in terms of that, you know, what I've seen in person, I can think of satisfying, and I hate the Mets. There was a game that we went to last year where the Mets, like, I forget which reliever it was, walked.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Between walking and hit by pitch, lost the game. They just, they, like yeah walked in like five runs in one inning um but uh i was there at the agile if you remember this there was the um bryson stott three run home run where there was there was a kid praying it was against the angels and uh the philly this was two or three years ago the phillies were down um bryce harper hits a grand slam the fucking tied up in like the seventh or the eighth inning and then it was uh or take the lead and then it tied again and then we were it was like you know bottom of the ninth you know all that kind of stuff bryson stock comes up and they showed there's like a kid praying on
Starting point is 01:10:41 on the tv and you could feel it you knew it was coming and bryson stott hits a walk off we run home run and it was it was like it was magic it was absolute fucking magic um we were hugging each other and i've been i was there when the like we beat the braves uh two years ago to get to the NLCS. And that was also magic. But I've never seen such energy in a regular season game. And we didn't even get to see Shohei or Mike Trout. Neither of them were playing that game, I believe. But we smoked.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I believe he scored the runoff of Rostel Iglesias. So that's, you know, we own him. What about, what about you, Liam? What do you,
Starting point is 01:11:32 what do you think? It's just the 2020, 20, 2004. I mean, that's like, I mean, that's such a high watermark.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah. The 2021, no, 2023 NFC Championship, where we simply ran over the Niners. Crazy is probably the 2018 NFC Championship, where they ran over the Vikings. The least compelling game I've ever been to
Starting point is 01:12:00 was when Temple lost 55-0 to SMU. Yeah, we left, and I was yelling shit like John Wesley was a heretic. And some SMU players were looking my direction. It would have been proud of you if you had gotten beaten up in the state. I'm a big guy, but they're athletes. To preserve media access and the fact that SMU loves me and I get to sit in their press box, I'm going to say SMU are a bunch of wonderful people with a great program that stands up to the test of time.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Pony Express, baby. Yeah. Now that they're putting the damn Trans Am in their videos, in their advertising stuff, you know this shit has turned. You know we have done a full 180. Now the ads are all over Dallas now. It's Dallas's team. They've got the old Pony Express stuff. It's great. They ads are all over Dallas now. It's Dallas' team. They've got the old Pony Express stuff. It's great.
Starting point is 01:12:48 They're just leaning hard into it. That is really cool. Fuck yeah. I will say, best tailgate I've ever been to, SMU. It was a Friday night tailgate on SMU's campus. They're playing North Texas. I just happened to go, and I just walked up and down their drag, the main part of the campus. The campus is really cute.
Starting point is 01:13:03 It looks a lot like a New England campus just wedged in Dallas. And lots of money, lots of folks with like chandeliers in their tents, but folks just handing me champagne and beer and canapes. And as a fat kid, like whatever, you know, I'll sit and listen to you talk about how the ACC is going to save your program. Sure. Why not? They already had ACC flags up at that point.
Starting point is 01:13:26 This was like halfway through last season. Goddamn. Beautiful. Beautiful. Oh, I see a new item has entered the... Ooh, a Tumblr. Happy Place. Happy Valley versus Happy Place.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Is Temple University anyone's happy place? I mean, I like Temple a lot. I got Noam Chomsky's nephew gave me a C. That is cool. Yeah, that is cool.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Daniel Chomsky. Before we get out of here, I just want to say I was looking at because Nuki was talking about the Fremantle Dockers, and the Dockers are apparently owned – they're like a league-owned team, like a commission-owned team alongside the West Coast Eagles,
Starting point is 01:14:14 which he had recommended to us. I looked at the West Coast Eagles, and their leading goal kicker for the women's side is Grace Kelly. Oh, beautiful. Another Philly link. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:28 No relation, but yeah, we're going to pretend it's her. I need to start watching Aussie football to start learning when they come over to the States and play college football. They all show up here now. They're all like 32 years old. They've been working in a paper mill for 40 years yeah and they've got tattoos and all of a sudden they're standing there next you know some 18 year old kid out of high
Starting point is 01:14:49 school right if if you've never seen and i don't think it's a strong is was jordan maialata he was right yeah yeah look at his rugby uh highlights uh where he is some sometimes twice the height, it looks like, of the guys. He's fucking just straight army. And it takes like six. It looks like it just takes six small guys who are probably my height. Yeah, who are probably big dudes, yeah. Yeah, to take him down as he just – And I really, really, really –
Starting point is 01:15:22 Like if there's one thing I want to see in real life, I want to see the – All right, it's fourth and one. We're at the goal line. Fourth and goal, one-yard line. Give Jordan Bile out of the ball and just let him clear his own space. I just want to see that. Let the big boys, give the big boys the ball. Let the big boys run.
Starting point is 01:15:42 I'm sick of this single back fucking spread bullshit. I want 10 offensive linemen. Just snap it directly to them. The entire O-line gets out in the field. I want to see fucking Isaac Samalu
Starting point is 01:15:59 as an eligible receiver. I'll buy that. I'll take it. Can I interest you in some Iowa football? Yeah, we're going to have, we're going to have to, we're going to start following the Iowa more. Only,
Starting point is 01:16:14 only punts. Only punts. Yes. That's the only thing. That's the closest thing to a pass we have. Yeah. Moves the ball down the field. It works just back,
Starting point is 01:16:30 back in the day, there was a legitimate discussion on whether the punt or the forward pass was a more effective offensive weapon. And I'm still not sure we've settled this yet. I just want to see more drop kicks. God, that would be. I want to see. I love it when teams busted out. It's like never works. No, never.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Never. Same thing with the pooch punt. Never, never, never works. But it looks cool. It's fun. Yeah. I do wish that there was, I wish you could do like a running punt, like sort of in like Australian rules football. Like that, that's sort of where you like kick it through the uprights in the middle of the play at the side. Canadian baby. That's why you got to watch Canada football. Oh yeah. They do the crazy shit like that. They still have rugby rules left in the system.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah, more rugby-like. That would be the shit. Well, Jordan. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming on. Pleasure, guys. It's been fun. The Finnish's cultural exchange program between our two podcasts. So Jordan, if they like you, where can they find more Jordan?
Starting point is 01:17:30 You like me? You like the Sicko stuff? You can find us on Twitter at Sicko's Committee. We're on Blue Sky, Sicko's Committee as well. Instagram. We're not on Facebook because my dad doesn't need to know what I do. We have a podcast called sickos committee, the sickos committee podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:46 We also have a patron sickos committee for five bucks a month, which I know we're overcharging for y'all for five bucks a month. You get access to our discord, which is a lot of fun because we just brainstorm in there for the most part. And also that gets you access to some of our special podcasts. We have commissions corner where we just tell weird stories about weird seasons.
Starting point is 01:18:03 We have yes, rah, rah, rah. Yes. which is our marching band podcast and uh we have two folks right now who are covering the history of prairie view a&m football it's an hbcu out of texas they lost 80 straight games in the 90s wow and it's it's a it's a story about corruption and scandal and what the whole thing that overtook that program. It's a really great story. It's our cereal. We'll put it that way. That's what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:18:29 That's awesome. I like that. We need more stuff like that about sports and less true crime. Yeah, that's what we figured. This was our version of that. Yeah. Alright, well, thanks for coming on. We appreciate it.
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Starting point is 01:19:23 He's at not Liam Anderson with a zero because he's late. Jordan, do you have a Twitter you want to share or just a sickos? Just a sickos. My personal one's boring as shit. No one cares. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, mine's boring as shit too. Patreon.com says
Starting point is 01:19:42 10,000 losses for our bonus episodes. Are there other bonuses? Like I said, we just... By the time you're listening to this it'll be up on the feed The episode with Beyond the Breakers Boys On the garbage picking Fugle kicking One of the greatest movies ever made Yeah that's what it was Yeah other podcasts
Starting point is 01:20:00 Well go listen to Sickos Hell yeah Sickos, Well There's Your Problem, Hell of a Way, Trash Future, Kill James Bond, Beyond the Breakers, Radio Free Toe Bag, and Self Worst. And
Starting point is 01:20:16 did we say Tim and Pitches? Tim and Pitches, yeah. Yeah, Bobby and Alex are back off hiatus, and they will be joining us soon for a somewhat late, but it'll still happen. I think they'll be our first time for Pete. 3P or 4P? I can't remember which.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah, we'll figure it out anyway. Well, Jordan, again, thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun. Open invite anytime you or any other of the sickos would like to come on. Maybe we do like a Fuck Penn State podcast. It's just Fuck Penn State, so pick her upos would like to come on. Maybe we do a Fuck Penn State podcast. It's just Fuck Penn State, so pick your own one. Come on or something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:49 We had fun. Last night, we were talking about the 1931 Penn State team that was so bad, and everyone enjoyed that. The whole podcast was just living it up. I'm trying to think of all the times that Temple had actually beat Penn State. It might have been 1931 and then that one year under Matt Rule.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, 2015. Alright. Well, 2015. Alright, well thanks for listening, everybody. See you around next time. Bye. We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don't care. We're from Philly, fucking Philly, no one likes us, we don't care.

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