Ten Thousand Losses - West Balls

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

Liam regales Tom with his adventures in (not so) Happy Valley as a deep-cover Bowling Green Falcons fan before talking about why God Hates Austin Hays, recap the Eagles season opener in Brazil, talk about how the Temple Owls are so bad, then discuss a pretty depressing talk about the 1980s Eagles attempting to get compensated for the brain damage they suffered. After that is the usual listener messages.  The Final Penalty Article (Inky) Find out bonus episodes and Discord at: https://www.patreon.com/tenthousandlosses  Follow us on Twitter: Podcast: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Liam: https://twitter.com/notliamanders0n Tom: https://twitter.com/tohickontpain  Shoot a message or leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218

He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy it is to come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge an ice ball. We, the Dallas Cowboys, had a sense of making time to do it. Yeah, we're fucking live. We're live. Hello.

Hello. Oh, man. Happy Thursday. Yeah, buddy. hello hello oh man happy happy thursday yeah buddy happy happy uh 9 12 day till the glenn beck heads out there the 9 12 the 9 12 project oh yeah that's right yeah man i i was thinking like just like a nice historical what if if nine 11 never happened to just like, I just admit it's like the Simpsons where everyone's just like, imagine the world without lawyers and it's just like peace and harmony. Yeah.

Oh dad. Yeah. No, he would have found a different job. Yeah. He would have been a God knows. I mean, he told me at one point he said,

I didn't know what I wanted to do after undergrad. So I said, fuck it. And I went to law school. That's a good reason as any, suppose i mean fuck it i became a teacher because the history hey you know what i like talking about history fuck it yeah um good enough good enough hey it's i get the summers off um yeah we were recording today after dude 23 years since 9-11 yeah uh it's i don't know man uh donald trump went to the memorial and apparently people are mad about that because he made it a campaign stop like the whole thing's commercialized anyway it's like christmas yeah yeah i i just the

only thing i really do when i get up there is stop stop the mosque. I really pay my respects there. But the yeah, dude. We had a debate. Transgender aliens. They're going to be eating your cats in prison. From outer space or whatever we're doing.

My man was knife-handing this shit. Not lucid. Dude, he started off... I'm doing him as I'm... He started off somewhat cogent, I guess, when the Adderall was still fresh or whatever they give him. Right, right, right.

And then just... As soon as they started needling him, Kamala started needling him, Kamala started needling him. He lost his shit. I think when he lost his shit was the, my rallies are bigger than yours. Yeah, that was pretty gruesome. Yeah.

Yeah, they leave your rallies early. Man, she like, that was a good, like, a good line. Yeah, exactly. He got red. He got red he got red he was furious yeah and uh yeah uh i mean he told her like basically to shut up at one point like he he i mean we all went through the filth together but i thought he did pretty fucking embarrassing oh yeah yeah definitely and you know kamala is not the world's greatest debater. I mean, so that just shows what a... How bad he did.

Yeah, someone who was clearly well-prepared, but kind of nervous at the start. And she's just not the world's best debater. And I mean, it's not going to fucking change anything, but the dude fucking sucked. He's just... all he can do is they're not gonna do another one which feels a lot like surrender to me yeah he doesn't want to he's i already won the first one so why do i need it i don't i don't think that that's what happened

there champ yeah your newsmax poll i'm sure i'm sure i mean even even getting saying that you lost that you won 97 on newsmax that that's bad because you should be 100 right yeah it's like one of those central african republics where that whatever despot of the day gets uh 98 of the vote yeah yeah it's it's i mean i feel so good about this country and the dude still has shot to win i mean mean, that's the thing. He did in 2016 and nobody thought he did and look where we got. Yeah, because people fundamentally misunderstand

statistics. He had like going in one third shot of winning. That's one third. That's a good baseball player. That's not half bad. That's exactly what I say. Yeah, so I mean, don't think it can happen again yeah the onion article you know that bad feeling creeping back in i think it was just a headline

uh that was like yep but uh yeah i'll fucking see what happens you fucking can't do anything about it i guess um we can't do some things we could the things, but we can't talk about that on air. Yeah. Shit. I need a Soviet anthem drop more now more than ever. Yeah. And I'm not fucking doing it. Dude, I'm getting like eight emails a day and I can't get them to stop.

Me too, dude. I do donate money to uh planned parenthood and what was nairol is now national association for reproductive rights i think or like reproductive rights are for everyone or something stupid damn yeah uh and and it's funny because we'll get uh outside the office we'll get uh planned parenthood canvassers who are like hi do you want to donate to play but i'm like i already fucking do i'm just trying to get my coffee. Have a good day. I paid at the office. Listen, I'm in the

helping professions. I have no money. Yeah. They must get it either because I gave money. Act Blue somewhere. Yeah, the Bernie. I gave, I think, over the course of the two, like 50 bucks to him.

Yeah. Yeah. Or I'm in the DSA technically, even though I don't participate, I just like give him like five bucks a month. I'm not in the DSA. No. I don't trust Philly DSA with a 10 foot pole. Sorry.

Oh, yeah. We're probably offending several listeners. I think I think one of the former heads of the Philly DSA listens. Sorry, champ. Sorry, bud. I gave up leftist organizing for a reason. Me too. That's why I do social work.

$5. Here you go. Go do what you want. Please understand that. Quit fucking emailing me, though. A business. Yeah, fucking stop emailing me. And also, DSA, a business meeting should be about business. It shouldn't.

Like, if you have a meeting and it's personal grievances, personal grievances are like, should we all snap instead of clap? Shut up, please. Please. Please. Our ideology stopped the Nazis. Yeah. All right? Okay.

It was kind of cold sometimes. Stalingrad? Anybody? Stalingrad, yeah. You know? We put up with a lot of shit in the Spanish. Think about what our ideological forebears did to organize and shit like that.

Just consider what they went through. We can put up with some discomfort sometimes. Return. Return. To tradition. I can't even make that joke on the Just a joke. Just a joke.

Just a joke. Just a joke. Can't even do this on the raw that we're going to censor anyway. Thank God we're demonetized. Yeah. So before we get into it, speaking of like being, secret agencies and being a snitch, you did something undercover. I did. I did. I went to the Pennsylvania State University main campus. In State College, Pennsylvania?

State College, Pennsylvania, sir. Also known as Happy Valley? It was not a very happy valley i so for a little bit of background uh my my wife uh hang on i have to respond to her text we're doing this live on air shut up yep good so far uh talking about penn state that's what I'm doing. So my wife grew up next to three sisters. Two-thirds of them went to Penn State,

actually. And the youngest one is still in college. She's a senior. And she was like, over the summer, we were like, oh, we'll come visit you. And it's kind of spiraled into our entire family group plus their family group like coming to penn state yeah it's like 10 people um and it was fine and fun uh but yeah i uh i

fucking hate penn state dude i i i i am very happy I went to Temple. I just like, dude, it's just not for me. Did you ever go to Shandy Gaff? If I tell you what Shandy Gaff is, does that ring a bell? Or the Gaff? Is that a bar? Yeah, the Gaff. I wasn't 21 when I was there.

Okay, here you go. Let me send you their website. I need you to, if you could flash this up on screen in the edit. Oh, wait, you edit oh well we don't have a video wrong podcast wrong podcast i could put it in the notes if you want to give them clicks um oh oh right graphic design is our passion yeah view happy hours i mean they do six dollar liquor pitchers till midnight i guess that's kind of tight oh yes yes yes yes the cheap liquor pitchers that that does sound yeah they have a shirt that

says the drinking will continue until the economy improves which is pretty funny uh it which i actually i thought that was funny but yeah that place was fucking hell on earth uh i never got to go to any bars i don't belong in fucking i don't belong in fucking college bars dude i'm 32 years old i was banned from the horse like uh oh yeah yeah yeah i passed it passed by this place so many times i know exactly where it is okay there there used to be a uh like a laundromat not too far um because i lived in west halls oh i'm getting balls yeah right um hamlet well hamilton hall was my hall um yeah dude uh it's weird like going through the town it's like do you ever accidentally drive place yeah it sucks yeah it's i'm getting the feeling doing

the google it's like doing the google street view like that i used to get when i uh would drive past a place i got fired from like yeah yeah that makes sense i didn't hate my time there it's definitely way denser they there's some bigger buildings it was it was it wasn't as big yeah it sucks um is it is yeah there's where's the yeah there's the west halls yeah okay oh no all right so the gav hold on wait that's right by old main yeah okay yeah there was there was a on the other side there used to be like i don't know some some uh uh like 7-eleven or something where i had a crush on a girl but i was too afraid to ask for her number oh you coward and i just like i just probably just was a creep actually i think i did end up getting her number then never called her attaboy yeah i've done that i've done that yeah i i you

know i guess i'm like cuddly enough to get a number but um so i don't come off like a creep. Eh, you kind of do. Eh, I guess so. Fuck it with you. Um, yeah, ever since the incident. Oh, the incident. Yeah, I'm familiar with the incident. Oh, boy. Well, I, according to your listeners, I am ambiphobic. What?

Do you not remember that, that person? I figured I'd get into it, the person who's called me ambiphobic. I don't remember that. Because I, because I used the wrong pronouns for for devon oh okay yeah all right that's and i apologized for it immediately and so like tom's ambiphobic and they were like spreading it in all the youtube comments okay well i didn't get fucked yeah uh yeah no i i uh i mean it was interesting to be there. I had been there once. The first time I ever got cheated on was at State College. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Yeah, it did feel like returning to the scene of a crime. Oh. Do you not know that? Yeah, the first time I ever got cheated on was at State College. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, no. Well, so they were playing. You tailggated i saw you were at the parking lot i was at the parking lot the tailgate was fun yeah i remember doing that yeah i liked tailgating uh they barely beat bowling green state university and i was going

they almost did i was going up to every bowling green state fan I could find and saying, I'm deep cover Sko Falcons. Yeah, that was cool. Oh, man, it would have been so nice if they fucking beat them. I know. I was really praying for it, but nothing doing. Yeah, it's a shame. They got close. They got close.

That's a good showing. Made Bowling Green for the MAAC championship this year. Yeah, I mean, Who's to say? Who knows? Yeah, it's the pain of the average Penn State fan would have been

just delicious. They were a nasty bunch. Were they behaving poorly? Yeah, I met the kid who runs barstool philly uh yeah i got nothing nice to say about that no yeah no thanks no thanks uh i i i remember the the when i went to see a game i do remember and there's definitely some build out happening. Like, yeah, there was more rural when I was there, like a lot more rural. And there used to be like a Hooters.

I don't know if the Hooters is still there. I didn't see a Hooters. But I just remember seeing like eight cops on state diesel horseback outside the Hooters. And I was like, damn, I don't know what's going on in the Hooters, but nothing good, apparently. Yeah, I think I think they were.

It might have been a rivalry game. I don't I don't I don't actually don't remember what game it was. I didn't go in because I couldn't we couldn't get tickets. Couldn't go into the Hooters.

Nor nor the the game. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, they got Primanti Brothers there now. They do. I passed it.

Yeah. And I went to actually a decent brewery. Yeah? Yeah, it's called... Oh, shit. Anti-Fragile. Oh, God damn it. Oh, no. Oh, no. Anti-Fragile oh god damn it oh anti-fragile brewing my man's really loves reading the art of manliness don't he whoever that was the vibe i got the beer was good but yeah

shit they got a trader joe's there now fuck man they they got Wegmans yeah yeah that's it outside in what's it called where the it's where I used to take the bus and then run across 3 3 22 to get to get to the the Best Buy because you I didn't have enough bandwidth to download games there was a 2006 So I had to go buy. I remember buying Company Heroes. Wow. Wow. I wasn't expecting to hear that.

I wasn't expecting to hear that one. Yeah. Yeah, I used to be a big RTS guy. That makes sense. Yeah. Anything history strategy. Sure, sure, sure. Company Heroes, fuck.

Company Heroes is a great game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just remember that journey. I have a lot of weird, very baked in memories of State College. It's a weird place, man. Yeah. I mean, the town

itself, it was cute. It looks like it's all built up. Yeah. It's cute enough. It's I don't know. It's cute enough, right? Like, that's how I feel. Yeah, and even, like, the nice tree-lined streets. And you can walk around the whole town.

Especially once you get past the frats. It's quiet. Right. We were... The Airbnb was next to the frats because we couldn't get a fucking hotel room. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Yeah.

A little much. the uh i mean i could do i'm sure everyone who's ever been to college has college stories and there's there's there's some you know someone someone throwing up on a roof as you know um yeah um i got um there was a one of the frats had a strip like a stripper pole in the basement i remember going to that that was interesting um that was the second time i i saw boobs um yeah yeah so there's there was um the there's some good memories besides my own you know uh i'm sure somebody i'm sure somebody had fun yeah absolutely um i mean i did um okay hello welcome to another episode of 10 000 losses the only philadelphia sports podcast

that exists i'm your host right so ricky sanchez that's right that's right i'm your host tom payne my pronouns are he him with who's my co-host yay liam hi i'm host, Tom Payne. My pronouns are he, him. With me is my co-host, yay. Liam. Hi, I'm Liam McAnderson. My pronouns are also he and him. Yeah. And we're at episode 96. We're getting close to 100. We got to think of something. We are. It's amazing. That's how I feel whenever we do the literature problem. It's like episode 150. I'm like, you stupid assholes are still listening to this, huh? Yeah. Yeah. The one podcast I listened to, actually, I started listening to it in penn state it's called the skeptics guide to the universe and it's only like decent anything i would the only thing with

skeptic i would endorse anymore is that because they're just they're science and they had they have a diversity of opinion they actually have a leftist on there so it's all just like oh i hate religion bullshit right but they just did a thousand. Wow. Thousands. Wow. They started 20 years ago. Jesus. Dude, could you imagine?

No, I honestly can't. 20 years of podcasting. I mean, that's pretty fucking cool, dude. Yeah, that's a lot. They're like, we have to start thinking about succession play. It's like, damn, to start thinking about succession play. I did. You do after 20 years. You do.

Yeah, so they just did theirs. If you've never listened to them, they're pretty good if you like to keep up on science news. They have changed over the years. They used to be more libertarian, and now they're definitely way more, uh, way more cool. And they, they have a younger woman on there who is, uh, a leftist and she will call them out when they act like dudes.

It's awesome. Yeah. Cause we kind of don't have that because we're successful. Well, we're also, you know, we're dudes. Yeah.

But our politics are, we're not, we're not for white guys from Connecticut, from rural, from suburban Connecticut. Right. Yeah. Yeah, but our politics are... We're not four white guys from Connecticut, from suburban Connecticut. Right. Yeah, so we've never had bad political opinions in our lives. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't know what you're talking. Shut up.

No, I wasn't registered Republican or Libertarian before. That's a terror segment. Yeah, it was Republican, Libertarian, Independent, then Democrat. I'm a registered Democrat. I've been for the majority of my adult life. It doesn't make me happy. I mean, what am I going to do? Primary Fitzpatrick?

Right. With someone worse? Yeah. It would be someone worse. It genuinely would be someone worse. I forget what with the fucking guys david he's a fucking psycho he's a fucking crazy maggots dickhead i hate these people man oh yeah yeah um shit we got yeah what two two months two months of this fucking election i can't i i can't wait i just please please just get it over with please just kill me guests no guests announcements

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that I made a joke. You were mad that I made a joke and put the S slash S in there. That is what annoyed me. You got to stand by your sarcasm. I guess that's true, but also go fuck yourself. Yeah. Well,. You got to stand by your sarcasm. I guess that's true, but also go fuck yourself. Yeah. Well, someone's got to. Yeah.

Oh. You got to stop doing that. Well, we got to get your drops ready to go, too. You have drops, don't you now? No, it's on my other soundboard. For when you're in undisclosed location. Yeah, yeah. You can figure out where I go.

It's not that hard. Yeah, so patreon.com, so that's 10,000 losses for our bonus episodes. I did have someone give me feedback. The last bonus episode, the football part two someone said like they genuinely were like well really enjoying this you guys are actually it's nice when we have a smart person on yeah and and can articulate wow amazing yeah it's really nice uh so this is a sports podcast and ostensibly ostensibly and things are fucking we're finally out of the doldrums yeah we are yeah we got the phillies i mean uh getting closer and closer uh if they win tonight they'll have 90

wins on the year uh we're playing the best team in baseball right now best team baseball right now at least right now are we best are we the best team again? Yes, we are. Hell yeah. Philly seems to have been figuring it out despite God doing his best to strike Austin Hayes with a kidney infection. Which, to be fair, Austin Hayes is also an asshole. Is he an asshole?

Yeah, go look at his Pride Night post. Ah. No wonder he fits in so well with the 200 Republicans and Kyle Schorfer Austin Hayes Pride Night you're not gonna like it Day of Evil

you gotta be fucking kidding me I almost wanted to use a slur oh a Day of Evil a Day of Evil yeah guy's an asshole fuck this dude fuck you

I told you a day of evil I told you fucking is not evil hang on one second I gotta mute oh my god hang on one second I'm recording yes bye Oh, my God. Hi. Hang on one second. I'm recording. Yes.

Bye. Sister-in-laws, baby. Oh, don't get me started. I won't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You've heard some of those adventures. I sure have.

Yeah. The one on the missus side, not the one on my brother's side. She's cool. No, the... Shit, what were we saying? We were talking about... Oh, yeah, Austin Tate.

Imagine getting mad because someone's fucking someone else consensually. Yeah, I don't get that. I'll never be able to relate to that. Never. Never. Yeah, I don't... I don't ever think i was really big into the i never really i grew out of that like like

homophobia like that sort of like you just have as a as a young man like growing in catholic school i know you're talking about just calling stuff Like, I grew out of that really quick. Like, in high school, I grew out of that. I just didn't care. You know, I just, it's immature as shit. Like, who gives a shit, people? It doesn't matter. Who gives a shit? And I know they make up all sorts of excuses.

It's, you're grooming. Okay. No. No, you're not. You're not. You don't know what that, who taught you that word? Right. I have a problem with that bring them to me yeah the the i mean now it's now man i got take it aside i'm really i would love people to start talking shit about haitians in front of me

knowing history and knowing what that that nation i have had the same thought yeah and and the iq talk it's like motherfucker are we doing like are we doing fucking skull measurements now right exactly like this is what the fuck what the fuck dude it is it is uh there there is not a not a not a nation on this earth of people that have been through worse and been exploited worse. I mean, the soil's unusable because of plantation farming. They are still paying the French back for

their own freedom. They have... People are like, well, don't they try farming? They can't. It's been depleted because they farmed the shit out of the land to pay back France. How do you not understand this? Well, obviously, they don't understand it.

They don't want to understand it. They just want to shit on people. And they have to find a way because they're legal immigrants. So they have to find a way to make them evil. Right. Immigration has been what has enabled America to be a halfway decent society. Yep. And I feel like, yeah, we do live be a halfway decent society. Yep. And I feel like, yeah, we do live in a halfway decent society.

I know it feels bad at times, but we do. You know, I don't, as a culture, I'm not saying as a, like, our government, I'm saying as a nation, we're halfway decent. The good parts of American culture are good. You know, the shit that makes me like shed a tear when I read like the new Colossus poem. Right. Like that's the shit I'm fucking for.

That's a good thing. Right. Yeah. Being a republic is good. You know, okay. Having a tradition of we don't fucking call people Lord.

That's good. That's good. But, yeah, dude, fuck that every haitian i've ever met was was chill um i met one young growing up and he died he he had he passed away sadly young uh due to complications from sickle salamania but he worked with my mom um yeah that he was he was he was very very nice uh so fuck fuck anyone going after the haitians fuck that shit they fucking fought and won their slave their freedom from slavery rightfully

rightly refused to go back into slavery when napoleon did that one of the biggest unforced l's napoleon did fucking what a shithead and um yeah fuck you fuck you fuck you yeah it's it's it's i know we're supposed to be talking about the phillies but i i something i didn't want to mention is that you can really tell when trump was doing his like uh closing remarks everything he says is designed to get your grandma and grandpa mad. Yep. Scared. Oh yeah. They're coming for your guns.

They're coming for your penises. They're coming. And we are. We are. Yeah. Oh yeah. We are. We are.

We're going to, we're going to eat your penis. Yeah. Tell us what you would do with Austin Hayes' penis. Yeah. I'm going to make mine bigger. I'm going to tape them together. I'm going to grab,

I'm going to have the skin made of penis. Sequential turbo dicks. Yeah. It's going to be like the GAU-7. Just a rotating dick cannon. Yes. Did you know technically 30% of the... They built Tom's body around the penises.

Right. Yeah. Still a titanium bathtub in there for some reason. They're taking your cats, your dogs They're gonna get your golden retriever Folks, they're gonna get your golden retriever They're gonna take it, they're gonna eat it They're gonna make it gay It's designed to rot your parents' brains

It's all this It's fear Of someone Graffitiing Black's rule Like that guy. Oh, that fucking guy. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, that's how the kids talk. That's how

the youth talks. That is Black's rule. Yeah. All right, back to baseball. Anyway, so fuck Austin Hayes. I'm glad you have a kidney infection. Yeah, me too. I ain't got a lot here. For the young guys to come up Who hopefully have better politics

Who probably don't Oh yeah, they don't You know they don't Yeah So, yeah, we're playing the Mets Fuck the Mets Yeah, who's hurt? Bones hurt

Remutio's hurt again Again Hopefully not for too long Hopefully they'll be back for the playoffs Which seems like there will be. And yeah, we just, we have to, we have to, I think we have two series against the Mets. We fucking have to kill it, right?

We want to clinch that. As early as possible, please. As early as possible. And we're getting close. Like the magic number is, I think if we win tonight, the magic number will be half the games we have. So that would be like sick.

That'd be great. Yeah. How confident are we? They look good because they looked lost. They did. And they do look good now. The second half of August and now into September, I think they're looking good.

I think they're getting their stride back. I think the weather's getting closer to playoff time. You can feel it. You can feel the energy. Yeah, I think we're looking good. I think they're getting their stride back. I think the weather's getting closer to playoff time. You can feel it. You can feel the energy. Yeah, I think we're getting there. And, yeah, I'm optimistic. And I think who we got tonight? Probable starters.

Did a Wheeler pitch last night. Okay, well, it's going to be a nola game okay so uh look out for that uh look out for that um fourth inning meltdown that rat fourth inning that meltdown yeah yeah yeah so yeah 88 88 58 i think uh i thought we were 89 for some reason yeah we're 88 and 58 and uh yeah this game will start when we're done recording the game probably over by the time this comes out i mean it will be right so maybe we're idiots well i mean yeah yeah but how about the birds? How about them birds, man? Yeah. So.

Looks good. Yeah. There was some shakiness, I think. But I think that's attributable to rust. Yeah. Rust. Not playing a lot of starters in preseason, which I think is a good thing overall. 34-29 over the Packers in Sao Paulo.

The field definitely looked slippery. I don't know why we kept... Yeah, it looked like butt. We keep getting this. We do. The turf gods hate the birds. Big sip. Yeah. Gotta stay hydrated.

Gotta stay hydrated, dude. So you don't have that NPR voice Making all sorts of Mouth noises I'm just Yeah I'm just doing Noises over here

I'm just being Neurodivergent as fuck Uh We got Uh yeah So the field conditions Were weird Um but

God damn I wanna start off Saquon Barkley. It looks like the player that the Giants thought was so special. Yeah. He looked prime, prime form. Yeah. If that is sustainable.

If. If. And it's tough for a running back. It is. That's why I'm so skeptical. But they get demolished, but he looked just... I mean, falling forward on every play, fighting through. It was like that third touchdown where he just melted through the line.

Right. Absolutely disgusting. Just nasty. He looked good. He looked open all the time. It was something that I don't think we've seen from a running back like in a while, just this elusiveness. I mean, Miles Sanders had moments. He did.

You know, where like that, dude, nothing like that, nothing like that, where he was just, yeah. I mean,

he looked like a Heisman. Yeah. You know, he, he, he looked, he looked insane a Heisman. Yeah. You know, he looked insane. I think that is a good thing, too, because it leaves some pressure off of Jalen Hurts.

I have thought the same thing. And he was shaky. Yeah, which we would have expected. Right. Throw in the pick. Just some okay decision have expected. Right, throwing the pick. Just some okay decision-making. Right.

I don't know if you feel like people are being too hard on him, but... I didn't. I think we've been hard on him, but that's because we know he can do well. Yeah. I mean, he threw two picks. Also threw two touchdowns. Completion percent could be better, but threw for 278 yards. You know, if he keeps it up, you know, then you could get worried. But I think, you know, for a first game, he didn't play.

I think it's fine. Yeah. He's still, you know, he's still a phenomenal quarterback. I think he is a good decision maker i think they were getting pressure especially early in the game right they were getting through the line and uh yeah that's that's i mean with any quarterback that's a you force a decision um right and just again it's another fucking new scheme it's another new offensive coordinator. Exactly.

And he's been through a lot of them. So, yeah. I thought overall, Devonta Smith looked good. He looked, I don't think I've seen him so, like, squirrely was the word that was coming to my brain. Like, just uncatchable. Like, the dude was just He's so small Yeah slender

Slim reaper baby He finds like crevasses Crevasses Like he's caving And he's just sliding through He's slippery he's like a fucking eel Right I love it

It's nasty And AJ Brown looked good when he was getting catches he's he's slippery he's like a fucking eel right yeah and i love it i love it it's it's it's it's nasty and and aj brown look good when he was getting catches i mean he's it's so nice that you have like this like just fucking hulking just stud right and then you have you have the compliments to each other yeah yeah they compliment each other you have that these two weapons don't say weapons. That is a tick that drives me up the fucking wall. I shouldn't say weapons? Is that what you're saying?

You shouldn't say weapons about football players. No, it's weird and dehumanizes them. I don't like it. What about Weapon X? Okay. He is the one exception. Okay. All right.

We're going to make the most... We're going to take this fight off air. The most lethal offense. I'm taking a page from Kamala here. Most lethal offense. Yeah, these guys are great. They're great tools. They're great. What else can I say that piss you off?

No, they're great. They're great human beings with an excellent skill set akin to tools of war sure you can have it that can be used to find a decisive point in the enemy and exploit it that can be followed up are you happy with this yeah i'm thinking of blitzkrieg right now oh okay what is it the schwerpunkt the decisive point i think so i don't speak german for a good reason it's just uh you just change the the the ths to these yeah schwerpunkt oh schwerpunkt yeah i got it right the first time Well done Do you know how to pour a beer? Oh, that fucking guy

That's all I think of I gotta say Germans I've known personally 0 for 2 right now Just gonna put it out there I don't like Germans Norwegians 0 for 1 Really?

Yeah Braz is Norwegian He's not Norwegian He's not from Norway I know, I'm just telling you Um Yeah I guess, I haven't met a swede me you're not from sweden i am actually you're not born in sweden i was actually you know if it upsets you i was you know why why can't then why do i have to pirate victoria 3 because i don't feel like paying for the DLC.

That's on you, man. Yeah. This is a loopy episode. This is. It's the first full week of school. And I have been really pulling the kids to flourish. And I've been helping them get over fears of speaking in front of the class and that kind of shit. It's taken a lot of spoons. Be very patient and kind.

Right. I hear you, unfortunately. I have to take it out on you. Thank you, bud. The Eagles, that's what we're talking about, not Paradox Interactive Games. No, sorry. Yeah, we're actually starting the VickyPod. We're not doing that. We're really going to get into all the weird, obscure

integralist philosophies that we can create. Can't wait to make ANCAP Chile. No. Yeah, so any other thoughts on the offense? I mean, again, Saquon looked good. I'm not really worried about the offensive line.

They seemed pretty good. I think we have probably, if not the best, one of the top five O-lines in the league, it looked like. They were playing really well. Yes. Defense-wise, I mean, we gave up a lot of points we still won i felt that the d was leaky i see in the notes which i especially the run d the run d was very leaky yeah um the it looked like like this sort of medium passes they were kind of giving up some of those too.

Like we were giving up some chunk plays. And again, I don't know. I mean, the Packers aren't a horrible team. So you would expect a team to exploit some stuff. I think the defense is definitely the weaker of the two sides this year. Yep. I think we have a complete offense at this point. I think the defense still needs some pieces.

And they didn't use what's-his-name that much. And I can't think of it. We got him from the Jets. Oh, I know who you're talking about. Bryce Huff? Bryce Huff, yeah. Interestingly enough, mentioning the Jets. Yeah, Hassan Reddick is still holding out to the $200,000 to $500,000 a game.

And the Jets are looking to get a trade done. Come home, baby. I know just the place. Come home, baby. Come home. Come home. We got you. We love you, Hassan. We love you, Hassan. Come on. No one can turn down an elusive speed edge rusher. And a Temple alum.

Come on, bring him home. Bring him home. Do the right thing. Come on, Howie. We know you listen to this podcast. Yeah, we know you do. Can you imagine Howie's a $1 patron? Oh, yeah. I want to hear what they say before I go through with it. Just talking to his wife. Yeah guys in 10k really had you really had some strong thoughts you know they got really got their head in the game we don't but we can we can pretend we do

you know they you know that bit about which eagles player has the biggest dick you know um i mean i we have to take Dick measurements whenever we draft a guy, and their estimates line up pretty well. Oh, boy. Imagine that's part of the combine. You get the Wunderlich test. The Wunder Dick test? Yeah, then the Wunder Dick.

Yeah, of course, the Wunder Dick test. Slightly less racist than the Wunderlich. Uh-huh. Do you know if you score too high on the Wunderlich, that's considered a negative? What? Yeah, like oh you would i figured what quarterback was the guy who uh scored the highest and like yeah you might have won a couple rounds earlier if you had gotten a little lower score coaches think guys are too smart we'll question them okay that tells you everything about football football coach brain does that you ever need to know. I want guys who can read and shit,

but they ain't smart enough to fucking tell me I'm a fucking idiot. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Speaking of... So, speaking... Any other thoughts on the birds before we transition? All right. So, speaking of birds that play football,

and coaches I don't think are very the Temple Owls the Owls we lost 38 to 11 the Navy. Fucking fucking embarrassing. Shoot us. Shoot us dad. You were at a

good football game when this was going on. This was pathetic. Yeah. Now, I expect to get blown out by fucking Oklahoma. Right. I don't expect to get blown out by 27 to Navy. No, I don't.

There looks like there's... Unconscionable. No ability. I cannot believe that these guys are this bad. They stink, dude. That the players are this bad. They're so fucking bad. Every play gets blown up. Every offensive play gets blown up.

They did manage to score a touchdown. Yay! Going into halftime, the kicker, was it Trujillo? He had the most points. Yay! And yeah, it was like a 23-yard touchdown pass. Forrest Brock, California kid. Yeah.

Oh, we're in the bottom 10. ESPN bottom 10. The ranking that came out, it had all the Division I teams. We are the lowest FBS team with several FCS teams ahead of us. Yeah. We're like 197 or something like that. Yeah, we're hideous. And we play Coastal Carolina.

Shanta clears. Yeah, this weekend. And the next weekend, we got Utah State and then Army, which actually might be worth going to. I don't know. Oh, I won't be here. Oh, yeah. We've got to figure out when to go do something like this or expensive.

No, they're cheap. Maybe my birthday. We'll go see Tulsa. Fuck us up. It could be the annual Liam's birthday slaughter. Yeah. Or we just watch our beloved Temple Owls get absolutely fucking demolished by whatever team. Leave at halftime.

Yeah. Owlstick.com, no thanks. At least the cheesesteak I got last time was good. Yeah. No, the... So, Forrest Brock, the quarterback, California. Boy, like I said. Six turnovers in two games.

That's good, right? Yeah. Four picks, two fumbles. He got fumbled. He has fumbled. The last fumble that he gave up was not a particularly nasty hit. Right.

He just had the ball completely insecure. He tried to scramble it. It was like our last chance to try and get you know get a drive anything yeah and nope fumbled it the dude sucks bring on evan simon bring on bring our jersey boy yeah ruckers the dude's from mount joy he went to to Mannheim. Yeah, bring him on. If Stan Drayton, if the leash isn't the Coastal Carolina game for Forrest Brock,

I don't know what this guy's doing. I don't have a lot of trust in Stan Drayton. No, I don't either. I don't know how we're playing. I feel like maybe if I could see them actually practice or something like that. I don't see a cohesive offense. Stan Drayton does not know ball. I don't think he does. I don't think...

I do see there are calls to fire Temple's athletic director. I don't know. We're going to get kicked out of the American, aren't we? Yeah, we are. I mean... We're going to be with UConn. We're going to get kicked out of the American, aren't we? Yeah, we are. We're going to be with UConn. We're going to be just the wandering. Yeah.

We got kicked out of the Big East at one point. Then they fucking hired, what's his name? Was it Al Golden? Yeah, Al Golden and then Matt Rule. Yeah. Like, even if you're going to accept that in the age of NIL, it's not going to be, you know, a fucking dynasty. At least be competitive within your fucking conference. What's the quote I have in here?

The Owls have gone without a road conference win for 1,746 days and the streak will extend even further. Yep. That's from templenews.com. Just please, please put a try anything try and be competitive i don't know what they're doing i don't know what they're what they're running i don't i it's a three and out every fucking time it's nine turnovers in two games hell yeah yeah i i i What's our total rushing yards? I think it's below. I don't know.

Just bad? Season running yards. Let's see. Temple Owls rushing. Wait for a college football reference. Oh, that's all time. Let's go Temple Owls. Stats.

That's all time. I don't want all time. Schools. Temple. Why can't I don't want all time. Schools. Temple. Why can't I break it down to years? I can't click on Temple Owls. Computer is making a self-preservation decision. Yeah.

Let's see. Oh, no. That's so bad. Team stats. Offense. Rushing yards in two games. That's so bad. Team stats, offense, rushing yards in two games. 52 yards. Oh.

202 total offensive yards. Oh. 1.9 rushing yards per play. Average is four. It is. Hideous out there. eight and a half penalties, 57 yards of penalty,

two and a half fumbles, two picks. Four and a half total. Has this been upgraded or updated? These turnovers are disgusting. That turnover, I don't know if that's an average

Yeah, because Forrest Brock has four Turnovers, four picks alone Plus two fumbles Defensive fumbles We have four fumbles as well Yeah Although we do We have caught four picks

So that's nice that's nice that's nice we why do we have to be the worst i know it's so miserable just yeah i i don't know anyway i see i see uh well let me let me stay in in college football for a second. The Pac-12 is back, baby. Yeah, the six-pack, back from the dead. Yeah, we got... Who we got? We got... I saw Boise State.

Boise State, which actually is compelling. Yeah. Boise State. Colorado State. San Diego State. Was it Fresno? Fresno State. Yeah, Fresno State.

Yeah, Washington State and Oregon State Who have already been there They still need two more teams This is going to be interesting to see I imagine some Sunbelt or CUSA teams will move into The Mountain West Yeah I would think so

Yeah I like the Mountain West So keep it good Keep it gross. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll see what happens. Does this mean the ACC? Will this trigger the death bells of the ACC? I think so.

I honestly think so, but I'm not sure. Maybe Cal and Stanford go back. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. I mean, those, you know, like Boise State is not a joke so right uh it's a real program um i mean so it's maybe they're gonna try and take like wyoming or someone i don't know yeah and people were if you if you looked at like what people were saying they

were saying yeah bring some of the mountain west teams in. Some people were saying that they might merge. Right, which actually would be shit. The PacWest? PacWest, yeah. Westpac? We're just going to end up having two conferences. The SEC and everybody else. Yeah. The big SEC.

It's going to be big SEC. And then it'll be big SEC North, big SEC South. Maybe we can bring back leaders and legends, like the big... Those division names? Oh, I remember those. That's the... What?

Stop. That's like sucking your own dick kind of energy. Yeah. Yeah, don't do that. All right. You added something here about the sixers so i'll uh i'll let you uh keep the arena where it is shut up board track the broad street line instead of moving the arena i don't care i'm tired of hearing about it next and uh extend the broad street line

up boulevard yeah extend the broad street Actually, do aggressive drilling and drill into New York City. Yes. And make them use our tunnels. You mean extreme northeast Philadelphia. Extreme northeast Philadelphia. Yeah. See how they like it. Call Philadelphia to Sixth Borough.

We're going to make use. We're going to tunnel. Yeah. The tunneling will not stop. And as we all know, we yearn for the mines. We yearn for it. Actually, we got a couple guys that we have some deep agents in New York City who know a thing or two about tunnels.

Oh, do we? Yeah, and they're not too concerned about building codes. Is it my guys? I mean... I guess, guess technically it's my technically they're your guys i don't think they're your boys they're not my boys those guys are assholes but we're all we're all going to the camps together so just just just like i will die on my deathbed i was like remember the time the guy climbed out of the tunnel and he had to get his hat and i'll be like that was what a great time to be alive.

That was funny. I saw something great. It was just beautiful. There was just the universe came together and produced beauty. And it's just nice. You know, I just, I just, you know, just makes me tear it up thinking about it. All right. Things maybe that aren't so nice that I want to talk about.

I'm going to spend a little time. We're going long already. We're at 55 minutes about. But there's an article in the Enquirer. I'll link it in the show notes. It's a really long article. Right. But it's worth reading.

Called The Final Penalty. So it's about the 1980s Super Bowl team and how these guys are for all the hard work that they put in. That hard work ended up giving them just

unbelievable amounts of brain damage. So those who don't know, 1980 Eagles went to the Super Bowl under Dick Vermeule, who is, you know, a Philly legend. He was the kind of coach, he was like a player's coach. He worked them hard, but he was a fair coach overall. He was beloved by his players.

And the... He expected a lot of his team. They expected full intensity in practice. This is a time that is gone. They're still running the fucking Oklahoma drill and shit. Yeah. And two-a-day full pad practice

during the season. This is the kind of shit we're talking about. This is gone. It's good it's gone. I can't say enough about the kind of mentality you would need. The guys who did this had a very intense, hardworking mentality. Not that guys today don't either, but they did what they had to do, and I do admire their moxie their moxie true grit you know

i admire like guys like that they were working hard right of course they were not compensated now to the level the players are now but they they did what they did they could for their team and and they were like this this going through hell together kind of thing these guys are all you know they all keep up with each other. They kind of form the brotherhood that, you know, these teams, when they go through, are

not audacity. Jesus Christ. Did it die? Did it fucking die? Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. I'm searching for the word. It starts arduousnessness they go through a bad experience together they form like a brotherhood

um they draft it like they draft it like you know the article starts off talking about you know they draft it like mid late rank guys but they draft based on like work ethic. Guys who had high intelligence and were really hard workers. You can still hear me, right? Yeah. I was listening to you. Yeah. And but this

you talk about like they're still doing the Oklahoma drill. All the linemen were taught to lead with their head. Right? They were getting drill they were all linemen were taught to lead with their head right they they were they were getting concussions like crazy they have a quote from jerry seismic a poll quote says quote how many concussions daily i was getting them daily now i'm starting to stumble a lot i get lost in quote um on astroturf right um so yeah they make it they make it to the super bowl um they beat this they beat the cowboys in the in the championship the nc championship um but now these guys are all

suffering intense neurological symptoms yep so they talk about uh they talk about jerry size where they talk about wilbur montgomery. They talk about Wilbur Montgomery was a running back. Mm-hmm. And even their punter. That tells you how fucking different game it was. The punter. That's wild. Max Reniger has it. And then Frank LeMaster was a linebacker. And then there's another.

So Max Reniger and Frank LeMaster had CTE when they passed. And so did Guy Morris. Yep. And this is the first time it was disclosed that he had CTE when he died. And we'll get to that. But he was a Baylor head coach. This article goes into depth

about the process to get compensation. Which is Byzantine, to say the least. Byzantine is a good word for it. It is insanely complex. It is administered by a third party as part of the settlement between the NFLPA and the league. Right. But there's not a lot of recourse.

If you need an appeal, you have to pay money. Well, a lot of these guys didn't get paid a lot to begin with. Right. And they don't have a ton of money. I mean, you'd be surprised how many former footballers... We're talking about players before the really, really big contracts. Got paid nothing, basically. They got paid nothing and worked their whole lives.

Right. And through this shit. And some of them were lucky to get coaching jobs, but that's not everybody. Right. So people were being told they're not eligible for compensation. And some of them were lucky to get coaching jobs, but that's not everybody. Right. So people were being told they're not eligible for compensation. So, yeah, the two things here. One, I mean, it's all boiled into the compensation scheme because we know the NFL was a lot more difficult.

We know the NFL tried to hide. Yes, and say, oh, it's a media problem. There's no concussion problem. They haven't been linked, so on and so forth. You're trying to destroy football. Yeah. All this kind of shit. We both played it.

And if you were to have children, and I'm not saying that as like an invasive thing, but if you were to have children, would you let them play ball? Because I fucking wouldn't. I don't think I would let them play football. I don't think so.

No. It would have to be after maybe a really really really long discussion and knowing that the coach was going to look out for your kid really look out for them but i i mean you might even get to the point where like i would want to be a coach on the team to make sure but i i would really encourage not to do it i love football we said this many. I love football. We've said this many times.

We love football. It's a great... It's our favorite sport. Yeah. We love it. Yeah. We can't look away. We have to not look away. And yeah, it's horrible.

The article goes more into that, the things that these players are dealing with. Dick Vermeule is quoted saying... He's tried to move... He's a Hall of famer. He's tried to move, move, move things using his,

his clout. And even he gets stonewalled. Um, you know, he's, he says he's quote, I'm upset that the wives and the players within this environment being put through such a demeaning routine.

Um, I'll get to the routine in a second. It pisses me off. Yeah, it really does. I, in a successful, I'm here in a successful life because of these guys.

I didn't play a snap. And I feel real responsibility to represent them to get what they deserve, end quote. Right. The test, they have to go through an arduous test, like neurological test. And it's hard for these guys. If you actually have these issues, it's hard to finish in one session. Right. But if you don't finish it, you can't get qualified for your claim right um vile it is vile um and it gets worse it gets worse um

so these guys are looking out for each other the article does go into like how we know that like it's not just concussions but concussions every day are bad they it talks about how they could have guessed yeah that there were doctors even back then who were saying guys we have concussions we should let them sit until right you didn't want to let it let down don't want to let down your team you don't want to let down your guys you didn't want to be seemed like as a goldbreaker. It's like an old time phrase. Right. You know, you didn't want to see like someone who was faking it.

Yeah. This is where like the blue collar aspect of the NFL compared to like the, you know, rich boy origins of college football. Right. This is where it really comes in because these are guys who really, they a lot of them were blue-collar guys who prided themselves on like i'm gonna work hard i'm gonna show up i'm not gonna fucking complain and you know got their fucking asses kicked by by this sport and yeah i'm reading here in the article sites, in 1973, there was mixed opinion. But there was already people calling for it. Sounds like smoking, yeah.

Yeah. Reversible – one textbook called it a reversible physiological condition. writing one in the um in writing in the lancet said uh want all it takes is a second concussion to slow your cognitive ability all it takes is a second concussion right they're cumulative so every time you get a concussion right that first one is almost like okay you kind of get you get a freebie basically yeah it's the stacking effect it stacks and obviously the the wider the distance between does does help right but you know these like today it's it's a big deal if a player gets like two concussions in the season like right with like we were talking about that yeah like that dude should not be playing for the rest of the season

and they still like talked down to him basically yeah whereas these guys were getting concussions i mean regularly every game right yeah it's like hey go go go sit a few plays out go sit the next series out get get your get your shit squared and then get back in the game and then you're getting another concussion right you have you have guys talking about they don't remember playing right they don't remember games entire games are lost to them uh who was it that said he can't remember the championship game oh i know who you're talking about uh what quarterback um was it troy achman trinkman yeah he does not remember he has said that yeah um yeah they just say called it getting your bell wrong right article here in the article um and it's it's it's teddy bridgewater was talking about

why he retired and he was like i thought like i thought i was up three minutes and like i perceived as three hours yeah it turns out fucking with your brain changes your entire reality yeah it's bad for you yeah the um yeah it's actually in the article yeah troy troy acheman suffered a concussion so severe he had to remove from the game he left with no memory of the game that was the that was super bowl uh 28 um and the rest a lot of this article recovers uh covers that but then they get into like some of the individual stories so wilbert montgomery for example he starts to notice his personality change yeah he he was like a really sweet chill guy and they started like yelling at his kids little league games and shit yeah he started getting real angry um he was he was um at the time for 30 years

according to the article the eagles' leading single season rusher. Right. Or career rusher. Sorry, not single season. If he rushed 6,000 yards in a season. Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah.

Oh, just to eat your heart out. Yeah. And now we're coming up on another issue because Wilbert Montgomery is black and the NFL has this policy called race norming where they assume that black people are less intelligent yep than white people so that cognitive decline doesn't impact a black player as severely because they didn't lose as much to begin with whoever came up with this policy should i was just gonna say that they should that is absolutely insane and i i remember hearing about race norming before but i it didn't stick in my head and i think we might have even talked about it before on the show but reading about this it just just can we please

like go back in time and kill the man who invented the IQ test Stanford or Binet or whatever like or Binet the Stanford or Binet is a test I don't know what you're talking about though well now it's usually the whisk

but you know the article then goes in to talk about, like, you know, the difficulties and how players just started killing themselves. That was really the, you know, like, Jujur Seau leaving his brain. Right. Fucking stabbing. What, he stabbed himself or shot himself in the heart? Yeah, and he was like, let the note.

I was like, please. Yeah. I saved my brain you know so that you can study it um see we got the race norming here um yeah so it talks about the scale there's a it's an arbitrary scale one this is 1.0 is moderate decline 1.5 is early dementia 2.0 is uh severe decline uh the article says that neurologists consider this not to be a medicine-based scale right right this is not this is not followed diagnostic criteria it's a scale they made up on their own for their um ripping people off for the ripping people off

right the article continues to go on to say that there's a problem with doctors being disqualified by the courts because the court administers... It's a weird program. The court has say over it because it's a settlement. They have disqualified doctors for questionable diagnoses in the past. Yeah. The appeal fee there is $1,000. One of the, was it Jim Bunning, said they hope that you, this is their, what they feel the program's MO is, quote, delay, deny, hope you die. Yeah, I've read that.

That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Here, I've read that. That's insane. Yeah. Here's the race norming. Guess when race norming ended, Liam? Guess when they stopped using that practice? What's that? You would think like, right, like when civil rights acts were passed, right?

Or, you know, maybe a little after because, you know, the NFL's conservative institution. Oh, wait, none of this existed then. It ended in 2021. Oh, okay. 2021. So they were still doing phrenology in 2021 cool that's so great dude the fact that you had this in your program that vile that's fucking vile dude yeah i'd be mad at myself because i had to fucking go in and censor the fucking saying this but yeah no these people should be these freaks yep yeah um these guys have a hard time going over to

filling out the forms right either they need their family to help them out um it's it's yeah i i can't say any any more about how fucking gross this is file yeah it just is um i want to wrap up here but the when when guy morris so net so uh he he got a settlement um he was diagnosed with alzheimer's in 2016. Yep. He got a settlement in 2018. By the time, this is 2022, by the time he was inducted into the Kentucky Pro Football Hall of Fame, he could no longer speak or care for himself. Dick Vermeule came personally to help him get dressed. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Jerry Seiswell says he didn't know who he was.

He died from the inside out. He had stage four CTE. And this is the quote. When I read this, I shed a tear. I'm tearing up thinking about this. Yeah, of course. brain be donated to Boston University's CTE center. Hours after he died, Robinson was unsure how to proceed. She called Vermeule, who gave her a contact for the center. Four months later, Robinson's phone rang. The university had the results of the exam on LeMaster's brain. They said, quote, we did not even need to put this under the microscope, Robinson recalled, to see the level of CTE in his brain that's monstrous dude that is what this sport did to him right and he got his settlement yeah but i believe his wife has said

i'd rather he never got the settlement i wish this never happened to him. Right. It's an absolute... It's vile, dude. I mean, that's the word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just... What is there to say other than...

Just to be clear here, the brain that we're talking about is not Guy Morris. It's Franklin Master. I don't think I properly introduced that. Who was famous for being like an Iron Man. Like he played 136 games without taking a break. Right. He was one of those guys who had to be a – Franklin Master had to be – he had to work after the league so so he was he was forgetful

he was a sales manager he started forgetting his keys according to the article and um yeah he was an assisted living when he died at 71 but he's uh it is it is um yeah, Frank Lemaster who had the CTA so bad. Yeah, and I'm going to put it in there. I know there's a paywall sometimes. I don't think this should be paywalled at all. No, it shouldn't be. It's a very well-written article. I think it's David Gambacorda who wrote the article.

Well-written, well-researched. It's heartbreaking. It is. To read this. When you read about the decline of people, it's already sad when someone declines naturally. Right. It's worse when it's not necessary.

It's worse sport. Right. Right. And yeah, I mean, playing football takes 10 years off your life on average. Jesus. Yep. And so to go back to the conversation we had a little bit in there, if you have kids who want to play football, you need to tell them that.

You need to be upfront. You owe it to them. If you've got a son in high school who wants to play football or is playing football, have them read this article. Please. And have them decide. Maybe basketball is the better choice. Maybe track and field. Maybe baseball have them decide. Maybe basketball is the better choice. Maybe track and field.

Maybe baseball. Something else. Because things are better. Helmets are better. You know, they have made changes, but it's still an issue. And unless they stop, especially for alignment, but unless they change the game to the point where either they all wear those goofy mega mind helmets. I do like this.

Or, uh, yeah. Um, or they, they stop all head to head contact and, and it's like, yeah,

it's, it's, um, it's, it's, it's never going to, it's never not going to be a risk. And, um, It's, it's, it's, it's, it's never going to, it's never not going to be a risk. And,

you know, it's, you know, it also, by the way, soccer is not really that much better because you have to head the ball. Yeah. And that gives you concussions as we down now.

Yep. And, you gotta worry about that too. Right. There's a reason I said baseball, basketball, track and field. There's a reason I said those three track and field the reason i said those three

um and i didn't say hockey right jesus yeah and i didn't say soccer i said those for a reason right um yeah uh so it's it's it's it sucks it's it's hard to transition out of this it's a depressing thing it's like it's an important read as a sports fan. It is. And yeah, I think we need to reconsider again how this sport that we love is going to do things. But at the end, there needs to be fucking justice.

And the guys who played, the men who played, they, you know... Deserved a lot better than what they got. Yeah. They deserve it and they deserve to get paid. At the minimum. Yep. There's it and they deserve to get paid at the minimum. Yep. There's no consolation for losing your mind, but it's better than nothing.

Yeah. All right. Well, that's going to be hard to transition out of. I'm sure you're going to try it out. We're going to try it because we got user feedback. We got our second text message. All right. So we got our text.

Yes. You can text the same line. You can call for a voicemail. So we got our text. Yes. Right. You can text are the same line. You can call him for a voicemail. So I'm going to read a DM here. Hi, Tom. Yay.

Liam. It's Harry. She, her and fuck CVS. They closed the one I get my prescriptions from with less than a month's notice. And I had to spend the whole day sorting it out. And the next closest one is much more of a pain to get to. Yes.

Fuck CVS. Yep. But I told, I told my psychiatrist, day sorting it out and the next closest one is much more of a pain to get to yes fuck cvs yep but uh i told i told my uh psychiatrist what happened she was very fucking pissed good she's like i can i can prove right now that i sent them your goddamn script i was like i know i know she's like that's not the first time i had a problem with them it's like i'm starting to get annoyed it's like yeah me too yeah do something do something um fuck edna yep edna owns cvs i guess that's a non-monopoly that's fine that's fine horizontal integration is not a monopoly um all right where are we actually it would be vertical i think whatever back to Aries text. But on to my main topic. I'm working on a sci-fi project set a couple thousand years into the future,

and I think it would be fun to include references to how various sports evolved. The two I have so far are a version of gridiron football played with like three times as many people in the field, and the field is enclosed in space, in a cylinder in space, spinning to give 67 percent of earth's gravity so you can do sick passes straight up and across the cylinder that you have to take a take into account the coriolis force to make okay all right that sounds cool i'm i like that yeah i'm kind of into this so far all right and that there's been a schism in basketball after the nba it kind got obsessed with rewarding longer and longer shots,

adding like four or five six-point lines, et cetera, and lathing the court and turning the game super boring. But my sports knowledge is pretty limited, and I thought y'all might have some fun with this too. So do y'all have any funny sports, funny ways sports can get very weird in the future? We did a bonus on this, didn't we? Did we? Like weird proposed rule changes? We did do that very weird in the future. We did a bonus on this, didn't we? Did we?

Like weird proposed rule changes? We did do that. Weird proposed rule changes. I think this is like a spiritual extension like into the far future. You know, in the year 40,000, there was only sick dunks. There's always sick dunks.

Yeah, like there's only war and sick dunks. You can always sick dunks. Yeah, like there's only war and you can dunk, you can play on the moon and dunk. Sick dunks. So I know that there's like 1770, 76 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is sort of what football will look like in the future, but it's very avant-garde.

Right. But that's, I always, how do you say his name? John Boyce. John Boyce say his name it's john boys john boys yes john boys um which i'm sure you've probably heard of uh but i'm i'm thinking like yeah let's play basketball on the moon that kind of slaps on us let's get some hops that would be pretty cool um baseball on the moon would also be good. I just think anything low gravity, like baseball where you, like, all right, baseball. Hockey has some weird very late overtime rules you should also look up.

Yeah. All right, ready for this? Baseball. You automatically win the game if you put a ball into orbit. Okay. It completes one orbit. We could put a tracker on there. You win the game

automatically that ball gets in orbit i guess i guess you'd have to play on a small moon but that would be kind of cool i think what else you have you have weird overtime rules you try to get sci-fi about it right yeah i like putting a ball in orbit on the moon robot players robot players um yeah that'll be football uh they'll just be robots um that's smart that's smart um yeah that'll actually actually all right you ready yeah android players for football not bad they start having issues because the constant contact is like fucking up their like circuits. Yeah. Yeah. And so they the robot revolution comes because they Americans don't care about them.

They're robot servants. Yeah. Yeah. And the revolution, the anti-human revolution is led by football robots that are like seven foot tall um they they have a cannon for the football so they're just shooting footballs at you like through your chest like fucking mega man i like that um and uh like i don't know we could like you know they like break into the white house and they you know, they like break into the White House and they,

you know, they have their fucking football gun and they have to say a cool line when they shoot a football through the president's stomach. It's got to be some cool fucking line though. Go long. Yeah.

You are open. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Coming soon to a theater near you blue 42 it's a hut uh yeah you got that and and all the all the robots are voiced by real nfl players i haven't i've actually watched that i'm not gonna going to lie to you. Yeah. You have like Patrick Mahomes robot. You'd watch that. You'd watch that. I don't even have to do a change to my robot voice. Patrick Mahomes here.

Yeah. Oh, the delirium had set in, huh? Oh, it's delirium. We're at hour 22. Yeah. If people want to call in and share some cool ones, please do so.

Let's help Eri get their sci-fi book off the ground. That'd be sick. Alright. We got some voicemails. We got two. And they're not all regulars. We don't have a Charlie. We got two. They're not all regulars.

We don't have a Charlie. Or a Wayne. But we do have Kyle. So let's listen to Kyle. Hey, gang. Kyle from Cleveland. Pronouncing him. First off, right off the bat, guys, that was so fucking awesome

of you to make an episode entitled to Johnny and Mac Gaudreau. When I heard about that, that fucking just killed me inside because I've seen both of them play live. And just thank you guys so much for making a whole episode about it. Just a fucking tragedy. But listening to you guys talk about it and hell, you even had Roz on there. Roz makes almost everything better. Almost, not everything, but

most things better. It was very therapeutic, and I think I just really needed that. So thank you guys for making that episode. On a slightly cheerier, I guess, note, Tom, you were talking about trying to find another college team

to listen to, and so am I. Weirdly enough, we both picked the same team. Obviously, I'm from Ohio, so I was born into the cult of the poison nut.

Never going to change because, like most Ohioans, I never actually went to college, but I was due to the cult of the poison nut. Never going to change because, like most Ohioans, I never actually went to college, but OSU, man, big, big Buckeye, woo, woo, woo. But recently, I follow a lot of Minnesota teams, the Vikings, Purple and Gold, by the way, to the motherfucker who was for the Packers, just kidding, but not really kidding, and also the Wild, the motherfucker who uh was uh for the packers uh just him but not really kidding uh and also the wild uh the minnesota wild and the radio station that both those use also play

gopher's games and i listened to a couple of them and it's fun listening to a team that does occasionally suck as opposed to osu which is like northern alabama yeah but also uh we fucked over alabama during the civil war so uh yeah we got that going for us uh speaking of minnesota by the way i'm a bit confused by the beef supposed to be between the vikings and the eagles uh i only recently heard upon the vikings so i'm not you know I'm not Well versed into it But is that more of Like a you guys thing or is that Like an actual thing

I think that's just us I don't really understand it doesn't seem like something that actually Makes sense but It's football and you guys are from Philly So You guys just hate everybody and everything and that's what I love about you. What's the history behind the Phillies and... Not the Phillies.

Wrong fucking team. I've had like 12 BBRs, guys. I'm sorry. What's the beef between the Vikings and the Eagles? Regardless, I'll talk to you guys later when I'm much more sober than I am right now. 38-7.

Yeah. 38-7. And Vikings fans coming in and putting a jersey on the Rocky statue and acting like they were going to run all over us and then losing by 38-7, 31 points. We killed Case Keenum and then revived him and then killed him again. I think we've played we've played quite a bit recently too like there was a there was a i'm looking at like our past results

and we've we've played uh 31 times including the postseason but the and the let's see the yeah it seems like of late we've played a lot more. I think, yeah, it's coming into Philly. I think the big thing is like what you just said, when the Minnesotans – was it 2018? Yeah. You get treated with respect, Minnesota. Okay.

Go Birds! Like that dirtbag. Yeah. God bless them. Yeah. Yeah. God bless him. Yeah. Yeah, we... Yeah, but I don't want to be treated with respect. Yeah, I don't.

I want to be disrespected. I think that's what it is. I don't think it's a real rivalry because... We always take their ass. Yeah. For there to be a rivalry, it's got to be two-sided. And if you guys are like, I don't really think we have a rivalry.

Yeah, I don't think it's a rivalry, it's got to be two-sided. And if you guys are like, I don't really think we have a rivalry, yeah, I don't think it's a rivalry. It's probably how my theory of we take shit talk to mean that you're also... If you're willing to participate in shit talk, you're also willing to throw down. I think that's part of it. I have heard

and seen eagles fans call like vikings fans bitches and like you know pussies whatever for not wanting to like engage engage in that like verbal spark i've also heard that against like 49ers fans too and like we don't have a big revelry against them so it's like it's when it's whenever someone like like hypes up like oh yeah oh we're going to philly yeah they ain't that that tough and then they you know they get embarrassed um um yeah i think that's more why it's also just dumb philly like yeah it's philly bullshit yeah but that's the way we are go birds go birds um Go birds. That's a good question. Excuse me. All right. Our next voicemail is from... I'm going to go just because we're running

late. We got one last one from... Okay. Wookie. And then we'll get out of here. Hey, guys. It's Postman Wookie down in North Carolina again. kind of enjoying the fallish weather we're starting to get um pronouns he him um it's been about a month

since i last called but i got some arena football news uh the arena football league is dead basically the the league owners uh g6 sports didn't want to give up the name, and the owners of the teams, who are often small business owners, did not want to continue on under the debts that that league accumulated under Lee Hunt's ownership last year. So they have, led by Jeff Fisher and the Billings Outlaws' owner, Steve Titus, they have started their own league called Arena Football 1. Basically, they're playing under the same exact rules, and the eight teams that finished out the season will be the core eight teams for next year.

On top of that, they are expanding to 12 teams. Alt. Or expected to be expanded to around 12 teams. They have already announced this week, the addition of the teams to Stockton, California, which is about an hour South of Sacramento and Wilkes-Barre Scranton. The Wilkes-Barre one kind of doesn't really make sense for that league as

they were trying to achieve a larger markets, but whatever. It gives the Albany Firebirds a relatively close-ish team to play against now. And today they're expected to announce another team. There is a second arena team, indoor team, based in Arizona called the Arizona Bandits because they cannot use the Rattlers name because the team that's existed since 1991 and just recently won the IFL championship is in the IFL. So Phoenix will have two indoor or arena teams next year. And then Monterey, Mexico is expected to get a team, so big news there. I would prefer the Wilkes-Barre Scranton team to play the NAL

because that kind of fits the NAL's kind of medium, the small city footprint. On top of all this, the NAL did announce that they are at an A-12 team in Beaumont, Texas, which gives the Gulf Coast a really nice footprint with Corpus Christi, Beaumont, Texas, Shreveport, Louisiana, and Columbus, Georgia.

Keep up the good work, guys, and yeah, I'll try not to die on the side of the road in my mail truck. Have a good one. Alright. Thank you,, guys. And, yeah, I'll try not to die on the side of the road in my mail truck. Have a good one. All right. Thank you, Wilkie. Yeah, that's interesting with all these, like, developments with the AFL.

Now the AFL won. Well, hopefully the Wilkes-Barre team will be worth rooting for. I wonder what their name will be. Yeah, it's interesting to see how that'll turn out. Well, I'm down a co-host for a minute because he's got to open the door. So I'm just going to start the outro without him. So, shouts out to our North Catholic tier patrons, Patrick, Sean, Mike, Kate, Charlie, Luke, Kyle, Chuckleford, and Kat. No new 700 level patrons.

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