Ten Thousand Losses - Ya Dope

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

The lads are back! They start off political for a minute (SCOTUS, Presidential Debate) then talk about the Phillies, Sixers offseason moves, and then cover the Howard Eskin situation before listening ...to listener messages.  Follow us on Twitter: Podcast: https://twitter.com/tenklossespod Liam: https://twitter.com/notliamanders0n Tom: https://twitter.com/tohickontpain  Leave us a voicemail (leave your name and pronouns): 267-371-7218

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He is actually going to eject a fan. Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things. The fan jumped into the penalty box area. Joy it is to come to Philadelphia and stand here and dodge an ice ball. We, the Dallas Cowboys, head assessment, John Cooney. We're live. We're live? We're live.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And you're listening to the American Civil War podcast. Tell them. Tell them, Tom. The podcast is called Historical Losers, and it's all about how the Confederates sucked ass and lost. Yeah, we're recording this on the anniversary of Pickett's Charge. It was 100, well, let's see, it's 2024. I'm not good at math.
Starting point is 00:00:59 161. 161 years ago? Yeah. 161 years ago, as we are recording, Pickett's Charge was happening. And Pickett's Charge is one of my favorite unforced L's in all of Civil War. Could you imagine of watching it?
Starting point is 00:01:19 It would have been like fucking Call of Duty or some shit. Oh, yeah, just the slaughter. Unmitigated slaughter where i and i posted it on twitter today i'm really happy getting getting the leftist talking strategy and tactics i bet that's funny we need to we need to do that sometimes we need to think about that shit for reasons that we'll talk about in a minute but watching the overlapping fields of fire map that i found today next to the brutal just just just marching men across of 12 000 men across a field where the with sight sighted artillery and just it really was a turkey shoot. Yeah. And Lee was not as good as a general.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I'm not saying he was a bad general. Right. He was not as good as general as people say he was. No, he wasn't. He probably would have been excellent as a corps commander under, I don't know who that would have been for the Confederates, but he fumbled the bag they they i mean day on day one they could have they could have pushed a union out at gettysburg and basically had free run to philly or bald more likely baltimore more likely baltimore but they didn't they didn't they lost
Starting point is 00:02:38 so um you know shouts out to the union heroes of the battle, Philly's own Meade, although he kind of fucked up at the crater. Yeah, a little bit. Grant fucked up the crater, too. They didn't want to send the black troops in. But I love Civil War posting because it makes me feel happy because there was a genuine force of good and progress that, you know, we haven't seen that in a while. I mean, obviously, there's other moments in American history where there are things you can latch on to and say, no, this is good. Like, it's tough with being as the colonial colonial settler state.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Right. I don't have a lot that we can latch on and say, this is good. The union whipping the shit out of slave owners was good. And with what has been going on, and I'm sure you guys are upset about the Supreme court, which you should be because it's fucking embarrassing. With,
Starting point is 00:03:44 with Biden's performance at the debate, which I don be because it's fucking embarrassing um with with biden's performance at the debate which i don't think we talked about hideous it's it's things are not looking good i i uh i texted you that meme the other day it was like say the line part but um let this radicalize you not lead you into despair You gotta do it guys Listeners you have to do it Because I personally am feeling a little I'm feeling a little anxiety That I haven't felt since 2020
Starting point is 00:04:14 Dude Trump made me have to go to therapy I was in therapy for two years Because of the shit that was going on in the Trump presidency Like I had to call I remember when I first joined Twitter I had to call like 500 accounts After i my when i first joined twitter i had to call like like 500 accounts right after this as part of my therapy like that was following because i was just giving myself an anxiety attack right so you you gotta if you are feeling upset about this stuff reach out people
Starting point is 00:04:39 the people in your community around you who are feeling nervous as well. Talk about what positive things you can do. Like the Union Army crushing the Confederacy at Gettysburg. Yeah. Study the strategy and tactics used. Obviously know that it was, you know, muskets, but... Good enough. Broad logistics
Starting point is 00:04:59 is the king of warfare. Know that. Morale as well. But no, for like like don't don't doom scroll like if you if you feel yourself starting to get worked up take yourself off twitter take yourself over whatever it is just like all right i'm gonna do something else never go on reddit yeah and for me it's like no i'm gonna go read about trains i'm gonna read about airplanes i'm gonna go read about civil war like that's that that, you got to do that. You know, I had to talk to my wife about, like, when, you know, Gaza's still going on,
Starting point is 00:05:31 but, like, at the height of everything, you know, her feed was messing her up. Did I tell you she got two warnings from Instagram? From what? Sharing images. Ah. Yeah. for what sharing um images ah yeah um but uh yeah so like just you know this is like sra time coming out even though i'm not filling with that organization anymore but like just i'm gonna be going i'm calling up some of the some of the bucks county boys we're gonna go hit the range i
Starting point is 00:06:01 think you know just just make sure everything's cited in like i'm not saying that that's gonna happen it it probably won't but probably a good idea having control over something helps alleviate anxiety and that's gonna yes knowing knowing my red dot sight and then it's gonna make me feel better yep but wow how's it going lee i'm all right um i feel exactly the same way, man. Yeah. Yeah. This is a sports podcast. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Ostensibly. Well, I think a lot of it, too, is like, yeah, with the Biden debate performance. I mean, my dad called me today, and he was like, he's got to drop out. So, yeah. He has to. He has to. But he's not going to, but he has to. But, yeah, I feel pretty grim. I mean, we're also both in the helping profession,
Starting point is 00:06:45 so it's easy to feel kind of grim. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, I, I, I just like, I was at a country concert,
Starting point is 00:06:52 uh, when the debate was going on and I just like chose not to watch the recaps. I just get my news through Twitter. It's like, yeah, man, like, I,
Starting point is 00:07:03 I don't know how bad this is gonna be but it doesn't feel good and you definitely need to you need to hang in there as best you can yeah yeah don't find positive steps you can take to to make sure that you know the people you know that you love you know you know what you're taking care of each other. That's the first step of anything. That was smart because I watched that. I didn't watch the whole debate because the Phillies were on first. And I turned it on a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And nothing's changed. Biden has definitely gone downhill. He's gone downhill. Man, the guy's got it. They nominate someone else. Please for the love of God Please The novelty of it will Probably boost the fucking numbers You know
Starting point is 00:07:51 I don't know what game The Democrats are playing We've said this a million times on this podcast The Republicans They know how to wield power Right exactly It's like coming out with a rule book That says it's illegal to have a dog play basketball,
Starting point is 00:08:07 and then they just keep dunking on us with the dog. Yeah, but I protest. I'm watching an official protest. Please fucking wield power. Anything. Anything is better than this. I'm sure there are local politicians and stuff. I know there are members of Congress who are concerned
Starting point is 00:08:27 about this stuff. We're pretty broad. Our listener base is pretty broad on the left. I don't want to say this shit too much, but it's fucked. It sucks to live in interesting times. It does suck. It sucks to live in interesting times.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It sucks. It does suck. It sucks to have your future be uncertain. I think everyone wish if we could just wake up tomorrow and know what the outcome was going to be, you would feel better either way. Just knowing what mode we got to be in um and the the fact that the right on this country has really thrown off the the sort of pretense this is always down underneath it was always there anyone who tells you you know no it's always been there this was this was what we were worried about when bush was president exactly that was pretty fucking terrible this was the yeah the the this was bush set the set the board for this and obama didn't do it do
Starting point is 00:09:30 it do really anything to counteract it and um yeah trump was it was the consequence that then biden comes in does i mean i we've talked about his like nlrb was is good there's been some stuff although they're trying to defang that too yeah well i mean with the shot the the supreme court's illegitimate institution at this point like we were saying this before opened it has effectively become the third the third house of congress and it and it's it's you cannot just let people sitting for life the the it is outlived. It's intended purpose. We don't have the Marbury versus Madison was wrongly decided.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm going to go back in time and, and, uh, just shoot everyone involved in that case. Uh, who was the first, uh, first,
Starting point is 00:10:17 uh, fucking justice to shoot him. Um, I think I should know this. John Marshall. Was it might've been. Yeah. Go shoot John Marshall, was it? Might have been. Yeah, go shoot John Marshall.
Starting point is 00:10:29 John Jay. And then, yeah, it was John Jay, John Rutledge, Oliver Ellsworth, and then John Marshall. Yeah. Judicial review is not in the Constitution. And technically, since Congress sets up the laws, they could just say, you know what? You decided this on this on your own we're going to uh we're just gonna do whatever we want anyway we're gonna we're gonna say actually no that's not not allowed you know um the it it's it served its purpose the the constitution we need a new one and and i know know that the dumbass chuds are saying that. Well, I think it's time, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:11:11 No, there actually needs to be sitting down, like, let's negotiate a new constitution. We need to figure out what's going on. And part of me feels like, fuck it, we're going to go our separate ways. My dad thinks the same thing, so. Like, at this point, all right, we're going to have, like, the Pacific states, the Northeast slash Great Lakes, and then you have the rest of the morons. Right. And I feel really bad for the people living down there. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And we can't forget those people because they're our allies, at least some of them. But goddamn, this is frustrating. Yeah. And that state will collapse within 50 to 100 years for just being shit. Yeah. It'll be a markedly less advanced society that doesn't value education,
Starting point is 00:11:50 and it'll be an authoritarian republic. More authoritarian than the one that we have now. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just throwing shit out there if you disagree. I don't think you're wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You know, because I want to know who's going to get the nukes right fuck man all right now i'm getting myself anxious let's let's let's talk about sports yeah let's do that all right hello welcome to another episode of 10 000 losses the only philadelphia sports podcast that exists sports podcast yeah extra fuck you to our one-sided rivalry with with race to ricky sanchez i'm your host tom payne my pronouns are he and with me is my co-host yay liam hi i'm liam mcanderson my pronouns are also here all right so um announcements if you haven't seen it if you haven't listened to it there there is a bonus. It's pretty good, I think. It was so enjoyable editing that, because it was so informative, with Jordan from the Sickles Committee on the history of football.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And we get up about to around the Civil War, and that's the World War II. World War II. So we're going to have him back In July For Part 2 Voice 2 Voice 2 Part 2 Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:09 But definitely Listen to that Yeah please Patreon.com Slash 10,000 losses For that It is Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:17 It's It's a quite enjoyable Episode I thought it was It was awesome Jordan is a wealth Of knowledge Yeah he knows everything About everything In his brain I thought I was awesome. Jordan is a wealth of knowledge. He knows everything about everything.
Starting point is 00:13:26 In his brain. I thought I had a good memory about history. He's terrific, yeah. Nice guy, too. Alright, voicemails. Give us a call. 267-371-7218. Give us your name and pronouns when you call.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So, sports-wise, we don't have too much to be upset about. No, we don't. I mean, the Phillies are good. The injuries are starting to pile up. They won 6-4 last night. It was 6-1 and then they gave a three-run home run. Yep. And then they brought Jeff Hoffman in
Starting point is 00:13:57 and he locked it down. Yep, yep, yep. The Sixers signed Paul George. I mean, how do we think what are our early predictions for the Sixers signed Paul George I mean how do we think what are our early predictions for the Sixers second round third round exit yeah yeah I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:16 if they stay healthy this team can make it to the Eastern Conference Finals I just don't know about anything else well we've had a few exits right was it Batum's that come back I just don't know about anything else. Well, we've had a few exits, right? Was it Batum's not coming back? Mm-hmm. Batum's not coming back.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I think that's... We did get Andre Drummond back, though. Yes, yes, which I'm happy with that. I want to see... Touching... Yeah, I guess a third round exit I want to see touching... I guess a third round exit. We'll see if there's any other signings. Although, but Toby leaving...
Starting point is 00:14:51 Toby straight up for Paul George. I mean, that's a pretty... Hang on one second. I think I butt-dialed someone and I got to check. Oh yeah, no worries. Yes, I think I butt-dialed you. You butt-dialed me? Yeah, thank you. Bye. I think I butt dialed you you butt dialed me? yeah thank you bye
Starting point is 00:15:06 I butt dialed Zach unexpected guest Zach hacked from the championship or bust podcast he did say come on we should have him on yeah where am I at Toby's gone
Starting point is 00:15:23 so Toby's gone Toby's gone so Toby's gone and you add Paul George yeah who says no I guess that's a question Paul George has problems staying healthy though that's my concern obviously it's not our money I don't give a shit what contract they give him and they
Starting point is 00:15:39 extended Tyrese which is awesome oh and we brought back Kelly Oubre Jr. which I think was very underrated yeah I'm happy with that as well. I think that that's going to be a good, reliable starting five, especially if Embiid's conditioning can keep up. I'm bullish, is how I would describe myself. Bullish? That's never bit us in the ass before. No, no. Famously
Starting point is 00:16:03 no. We are incredibly level-headed prognosticators. Absolutely. Going back real quick to the Phillies. Do you know how many Phillies are all-stars this year? Four? Well, Harper,
Starting point is 00:16:19 probably Trey Turner, probably Alec Boehm, probably JT's... Dead. Yeah, he's dropped off since he got hurt. But Schwarber might be. And then Marsh and Castellanos. Okay, well, if we don't win the World Series, who gives a shit?
Starting point is 00:16:36 That is where I am with this team. Yeah. It's pretty cool, though. And go out and commit voter fraud to get the rest of the fight. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You can rip off of the fight. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You can rip off your government here. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Voter fraud for the All-Star game is not real.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, who cares? Other people will bitch about it. I'm sorry we have enthusiastic and devoted families. Yeah, our wah. All right. Yeah, so, I mean, it's really, it's a slow season phillies the phillies aren't that a concern the olympics are coming up uh simone biles cleared something like 12 and a half feet in her routine fuck yeah yeah we're looking forward to watching our our gymnastic team kick the absolute dog shit out of ec. I love these excuses for jingoism, which are very rare for us.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah. The Olympics is one of them. The Olympics is one of them and the Army-Navy football game. Yeah, Army-Navy football game. Let's see. We got that. Civil War we mentioned. Yeah, the moon landing.
Starting point is 00:17:42 The moon landing. Definitely a big one. Definitely a big one. Definitely a big one. Yeah, we got to take our dubs where we can get them. We're not a very dub-friendly people. No. It's called being a leftist. Yeah, the dubs are few and far between.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And half the dubs we hate because it was the wrong leftist getting the dub. Yeah, exactly. Thanks for nothing, Rosa Luxemburg. Way to die in a ditch. Oh. Man, you imagine. That's another what if. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 A united Germany-Russia, because it doesn't feel so isolated and paranoid, doesn't have to go down that crazy paranoid road. Right. Fuck. All right, back to sports. I guess we should splat. it's not a major content warning for for for move do you want to move on to our enemy yeah howard askin you fucking son of a so my minor content warning it's not um non-consensual kissing and touching yeah it's it's it's it's not some of the more severe stuff
Starting point is 00:18:46 that we've covered before but we've talked about this guy several times relatedly though the flyers are not extending carter hart he is an unrestricted free agent given the hockey canada case fuck you yeah eat shit carter yeah go get your redemption somewhere else you don't even play hockey in this town fucking his majesty's jail and the gulag hopefully the Canadian the cam log yeah ah shit I gotta remember I I met some when I was in Scott when I was in a tour group and it was a family it was it was an older couple they were like the sweetest people ever they were from like a town of 800 hundred No eight thousand people Somewhere far up in fucking
Starting point is 00:19:27 In a Like Saskatchewan or some shit like that Right And they fucking sold me on it I'm like I'm ready to come visit Hell yeah
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah There's nothing to do there But be in nature Right I was like You guys got me sold Like I'm ready to go visit They were the sweetest people ever
Starting point is 00:19:42 So yeah But send him to the worst part. Yeah, the bad gulag. Yeah. Go send them there. Actually, what we could do is we set up one in Canada and one in Antarctica, and it's whenever it's permanently night.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Right. We just fly you on con air between the tail, right? Yeah. And so you never see the day again. Nope, that's okay. And so you never see the day again. No, that's okay. You don't need it. And we won't say what Carter Hart allegedly was part of. You can look it up.
Starting point is 00:20:12 That is deserving. That's actually getting off pretty light. Yeah, you can look it up. Back to Howard Eskin. Yeah, go for it, dude. If you are a Philadelphia sports person, I know there are people who listen to this who aren't from the area. Howard Eskin has been this gadfly for years.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He's a radio announcer. Shouts out to my mom hating this guy since before I was born. She was right to do so. She's legitimately hated this. My mom has always had a sixth sense about scummy men in philly sports and uh she's she was right all along on this guy so howard eskin he is uh the wip uh before wpf what was it um i can't remember the name it was like like WDGB or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a Philly sports announcer. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:07 He is the father of the Spike Eskin when we say, fuck you, Ricky Sanchez. Spike Eskin is his son, but we're just going to focus on Howard for the moment. And he's always been a controversial figure. He's the definition of a gadfly. He wants to be a kingmaker so fucking bad. Yeah, he thinks he's a big swinging dick.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He wears fur coats. He's a character. And for years, there's probably past episodes where I said I thought he was doing a bit. Apparently he's not. Oh no. I thought that a lot of these WIP guys, they do... I wonder if they become
Starting point is 00:21:42 their character. I think so. Because the thing about philadelphia sports radio is the big thing that drives it is is saying controversial shit to get people to call on and call you an idiot and so he would so howard would say shit like that howard was the guy who uh howard and angela were the guys who went to Boo McNab Howard Eskins the guy who called was it Deshaun Jackson no who did he call a gangster
Starting point is 00:22:13 I thought it was Deshaun Jackson Deshaun Jackson a gangster he's he likes to dance right on the line of saying some near racist shit. He said some turf shit in the past. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Well, I don't think he's a feminist, radical feminist either. He said some misogynist shit in the past too. Uh-huh. Women calling out. I know the thing that my mom hates about him is women would call him WF. He's like, what's going on honey where you know you calling for the husband let you call in like like shut up yeah this kind of shit in the 90s in the 2000s like right of course like like he's a relic of of that era of sports radio
Starting point is 00:22:58 um yeah he's a he's a piece of shit, he is. And one of the nicest human beings who ever walked the face of this earth, Charlie Emanuel, who was the Phillies manager during the World Series run, still a king in my heart. He's the manager of my soul. He has two occasions,
Starting point is 00:23:22 said, Howard, if you want to come to my office. Let's do it. Let's fuck. Jesus Christ. So. Zencaster. Get better. Dude, we're going to switch.
Starting point is 00:23:31 We're going to switch. I can't take this anymore. Why is it doing this? I don't know. Why does it not recognize my audio halfway through? And it's not just me. It fucking does it. I know it doesn't just do it to me.
Starting point is 00:23:43 No, it doesn't to us too. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't no you just decide that you don't recognize my microphone anymore right at least it's still recognizing my mic but i've had that problem numerous times i i think it's whoever's the host i think i think it's a server side thing there's no reason for it of course it is dude i i love to push well at least thank god they have the new ai uh features yeah thank fuck for that we We have a Tom bot and a Liam bot. Tom bot.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Tom bot. Kenzo bot. Type in something that Tom would say. Hello. Come balls. You know. Come ball. Fuck this guy. Balls. Just me saying balls and penis over again. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:27 We were talking about Howard Es eskin big piece of shit and talking about how he's a relic of the past um and you were making you were make about to make a point yeah i we fucking lost the train of thought uh no dude i mean he's just like he grabbed a aramark employee and tried to kiss her and kiss so here's here's what i'm saying so this is back in may i the the inquire article says he's accused of giving her an unwanted kiss and then later in the article it says it was an unwanted advance and then later in the article, it says it was an unwanted advance. And then also in the article, it says that he attempted the kiss. So I'm not sure what happened. We don't know for certain, but we can say that
Starting point is 00:25:11 Howard Eskin should not be covering any Philadelphia sports teams in a meaningful capacity. He is gainfully employed by WIP. He is not showing up at the ballparks the remainder of this year at CBP. I don't know why he still has a job. If did this in my job i'd be fired uh already i think you would be too it's i would lose my certificate yeah it's an unexcept yeah i'd be child blind yeah uh it's
Starting point is 00:25:36 unacceptable and inexcusable that this is still happening the sixers abandoned like i said and it's a fucking detriment to us as a city that this fucking asshole still has a job. So Citizens Bank Park, the Sixers thing we mentioned before we hit record. So the Sixers have come out and said that he's banned from the practice facility. He is banned from Citizens Bank Park for the rest of the fucking year. He is still on the air. So this is not really a punishment no it's not i was i was trying to figure out if he blocked me but it was mike missanelli that blocked me mike pissanelli
Starting point is 00:26:11 blocked both of us because we called him mike pissanelli no he i said lmao shut the fuck up mike you're just mad you want to be a kingmaker and nobody cares about you anymore and then he blocked me yeah um yeah he's he's we were we were saying earlier, he wants to be this kid. He thinks that he's this guy who influences Philly sports. Yeah, exactly. And that they bow to his whims. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He's a talking head. If you've never... I'll put a link in the show notes if you've never seen the argument between him and Charlie Emanuel that I was mentioning. Charlie's like... He's like,
Starting point is 00:26:43 well, what are we supposed to do? And he's like, well, he's like well what are we supposed to do and he's like well i don't know what we're supposed to do you know the if they're not hitting and the pitchers aren't pitching i don't know what else to do there's only so much i could do and he's like you don't know either you don't play baseball you don't know right yeah it's like i'll knock you out watching charlie manuel go to town on how Eskin would be a I'd stream that oh absolutely I and Uncle Charlie would win I was doing I was doing some sort of doing a little bit of research like like purposely go through some threads and and and looking at stuff and you know if you look at like the personalities at WIP Eskin um there was some mixed stuff about how how he is apparently sometimes
Starting point is 00:27:29 he's nice to people sometimes he's not um mike been this apparently mike masonality apparently as a co-worker he's a piece of shit he always treated everyone shocked by that yeah cataldi was an ass too um thank god that guy's gone but we're gonna kind of roll back to to um wip because the wip station manager is his son spike eskin yep and what did spike spike i should pull this up because spike said something today oh i had it hang on one second yeah i was on the channel charlie charlie charlie fukwab manuel jr charlie fuck you manuel jr oh uh hang on uh spike eskin a bitch spike eskin i do my best to a good person whether you like like me, parentheses, some, or dislike me,
Starting point is 00:28:26 parentheses again, some as well, I will hope and expect it is based on what I do and say and how I act. I will see you on the radio today and the podcast late tonight. I appreciate the support as always.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That is the only thing he has had to say. I, you know, jokes aside about Spike Eskin, obviously he's not his dad, but he could take his dad off the air he has that power yeah you could take your dad off the air dude i used to listen to right
Starting point is 00:28:53 sarisky sanchez um i never have spike doesn't he's annoying right so are we true does he seem like he's his dad no he doesn't and there's there were times on the where you hope at least right where mike would would kind of obliquely hint at his dad and spikes like you could hear the eye roll right so i'm not sure how he how he how the relationship with his pops is um right i would be pretty pretty upset at my dad if i felt i would be pretty pretty upset at my dad I would be pretty fucking upset at my dad yeah I'd yank him off the fucking air you're embarrassing me personally and
Starting point is 00:29:31 professionally I can tell you that I ended my relationship with my dad for much less for wrongs that he did that did not reach the level of I mean you call that sexual assault you know kissing someone without
Starting point is 00:29:46 their their consent um yeah yeah and and continuing to make the advance the i i did find in the um the athletic they did say that he did kiss her okay that was part of the aaron marks statement um okay yeah so unless something else comes out out and it looks like all the articles, like I'm looking at the WHOI, it's kind of just repeating what the inquirer came out with first. But what's funny is the suspension for citizens bank park is from Odyssey, which is the parent radio company. So why not just suspend them from the fucking air?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Again, I don't understand why does he need to be on the radio it's it's just how old is this guy like at this point howard eskin 73 i think yeah just fucking call quits please just just this is your excuse to just say oh he's retiring he is 73 i was right yeah um and he's jewish thanks asshole yeah that's why i did the voice for spike once um i uh yeah so spike if you if you want to uh and i do like the comments in in that thread there are i just love the controversy section of the uh the uh uh the Howard Eskin uh Manuel responded by threatening to fight Eskin had to be physically restrained by the hitting coach Milt Thompson Charlie Manuel was going to kick Howard Eskin's ass live on air oh corn
Starting point is 00:31:21 corn fed Charlie Manuel he's from North Fork, West Virginia. You tell me if you want those hands. Yeah. Anyone, the greatest coaches in all of sports have all been from West Virginia and they all can fight. Saban, if he really wanted to, could knock your ass out. If you know
Starting point is 00:31:39 Charlie Manuel's life story, the man had it rough. Yes. And sports kind of saved the guy's life story, the man had it rough. Yes. And sports kind of saved the guy's life. And he could speak Japanese, too. So I know he... We don't make fun of people with certain accents. We think that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But you see this West Virginia corn-fed guy and you think a certain thing and the man fucking speaks Japanese. Right. Fluently. Very well. Fluently, yeah. He played in Japan for a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He played in Japan, Japanese ball, yeah. Yeah. Five or six years? Five or six years, yeah. And he survived a lot. And Howard Eskin would not survive an interaction with Charlie. I don't think – I think Howard Eskin is getting out of there in a pine box. Yeah, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:32:28 There's no way. Howard Eskin is leaving that fight in a pinewood box. Another what if. What if we let Charlie Mays go out? Howard Eskin's never been in a fight. No. You can tell when someone's never been in a fight. He's a fancy boy.
Starting point is 00:32:44 He's part of the theory. He had never been punched in his face. And you know what? We have to go back to a really early episode of ours. Has Spike Eskin tried to fight his dad? Yes. You think so? Yeah, but not very well.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I don't think... If you look up Spike Eskin, he's not... Howard would beat Spike in a fight. Yes, he would. Just by size yeah sorry dude yeah more like fights to ricky sanchez yeah i guess i guess spike could have skateboarded his way away but uh um yeah so this shit fucking sucks it it sucks uh get him off the air i don't really there's there's much else to say about it He's always being a piece of shit My mom was right
Starting point is 00:33:25 Saying this dude was a scumbag from very early on In his career He's just annoying So yeah fucking dope You dope you nitwit You know other dumb shit he says He's got some weird Cash raises
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah go Go buy a dog or something like that what does that mean it's like if you're scared okay yeah i i have no idea it was like it was like they uh this is the old philly sayings you remember that that guy who said you look like your mom wears army boots or something like that yes like that is like dude this is an insult from this is like an archie comics insult from the, from back in the day. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:08 what the fuck is this shit? What the fuck are you saying to me? Yeah. Listen, I haven't gone to the sock up and gotten them all after. So I don't know what this reference means. You know, this is the shit you say before,
Starting point is 00:34:20 you know, before you go to make out lane. Make out. We're going to go neck and, and, and pet, you know, like heavy padding. Make out lane. We're going to go neck and pet. Heavy petting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Heavy petting. Yeah. Fuck. All right. Yeah. So what I really would like to do is be able to play the hey, hey, goodbye for this fucking bozo. But as of recording here on the third, he is is... He's still gainfully employed by WIP. He's still gainfully employed.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, so fuck you. Fuck you, Howard Eskin. Fuck you and the fucking fursuit. Fursuit? Yeah. Fur coat, Ben. Fur coat, yeah, no. Yeah, we...
Starting point is 00:34:58 He's not a furry. We're fine with furries. We're not fine with Howard Eskin. We both know furries are far more admirable people. Yeah. Except for the weird Nazi furries we're not fine with howard eskin we we both know far more furries are far more admiral people yeah some of the weird nazi furries those guys are fucked up man no i don't want to i want to start furry discourse it's fine i don't give a shit i just don't know how you how you it's it's not cool in there it's not for me it's not for me but it's it's fine but you do you yeah all right you want to move on to voicemails yeah we got a shitload of voicemails today charlie uh charlie charlie's got two and
Starting point is 00:35:31 they're not too long and they're both separate ones union ones thing so uh i'm just gonna go in order um we got a couple um some of them are kind of answering what we we asked about last last yeah go ahead so but we were going to start with Charlie, because, man, the Union fucking suck ass. And so let's listen. Hey, guys. Hey, Liam. Hey, Tom.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's Charlie from Oxford. You have Philadelphia Union. Losing streak continues. They win 0 for 3 with the three games in seven. Losing to Charlotte 2-0 at home again. This one was not even close. First half, both teams held scoreless. They just didn't have anything with the lineup changes again.
Starting point is 00:36:23 The 30% humidity in the high 80s, they basically gave up two goals late in the second, in the middle of the second half, and really did not really threaten the score goal at all in both halves. Had a bit of the ball a little bit better in the first half, but failed the score. It looked really bad, and then anybody they brought on really didn't help. Any more Union 2 players they threw out there didn't improve things. It's great to pay full price for the MLS Next Pro team at home. It's continuing to be bad. It's going to be until Hungary, Venezuela, and Jamaica all get bounced out of Copa America or the Euros. It's going to be like this for a bit.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Pride definitely turned into wrath. No pride on the field, being sissy had no gas to gas. It's going to be unless somebody has a general compliment on Jay Sugarman
Starting point is 00:37:37 whether he said slurs or did anything inappropriate to anybody please let me know and we can try to get the team sold to somebody else. Later, Phil. Poor Charlie. It sucks. I think it's...
Starting point is 00:37:51 What's his name? They lost their best guy, too. Yeah. Carranza? I think that's it. There's been a lot of horrible stuff going on with the union. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Awful for Charlie. Yeah, I feel bad for the union faithful. Sorry, guys. We got a couple who are pretty regular listeners. Sorry, man. At least the Phillies are good. All right. And we got Wayne calling in, too,
Starting point is 00:38:25 kind of also bringing up some Union stuff. Hey, Tom. Yeah, Liam. Wayne again. Run out to you, Ham. Covering basically all the extra stuff that has happened. Firstly, just today, yeah, The Florida Panthers avoid becoming the first team in 1942
Starting point is 00:38:48 to completely blow a 3-0 series lead in the penultimate series to sign the championship. They beat the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 and continue Canada's arduous march without the
Starting point is 00:39:04 cup. The Euros have gotten to the last match day of the group stage. Scotland got knocked out in brutal fashion by Hungary on a 100-minute winner. And Croatia more than likely probably been knocked out by the Italians, who were fast to salvage the draw. They go through and Croatia now basically has to get a whole bunch of help. Albania has basically crashed out after a pretty valiant effort, I must say, in the
Starting point is 00:39:44 championship. must say in the championship and also Copa America started the US able to beat Bolivia 2-0 and the farewell tour of Lionel Messi and the Argentina flight blue and white
Starting point is 00:40:00 got off to a winning start with them beating winning their first match over Canada and tomorrow I get to see the chaos that will unfold as they bury everybody for the GLA match and as always go
Starting point is 00:40:16 Rutgers and fuck Penn State alright yeah have you recovered from your sneezing? I think so. That was weird. Yeah, that's right. We didn't talk about the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Panther's one who gives a shit. Next. Yeah. I was really pulling for the Oilers. I was pulling for McJesus. You got to pull for the underdog. Yeah. They were down 3-0.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Fuck Florida. It's only ever happened once where a team came all the way back and won in 7 after being down 3-0. And it was the wartime Detroit Red Wings in like a 7-team league against the Leafs. The playoff format was really weird and different back then, so I don't know if you want to count it, but it has happened one time.
Starting point is 00:41:08 All right. Well, thanks, Lane, for calling in. Appreciate it. We got moving along just because we've got like a shitload of voicemails. All right. Our favorite Yenzer has called in. So here we got John from Pittsburgh. Hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:41:24 John from Pittsburgh. How you doing? John from Pittsburgh. He, him pronouns. Listen to your latest podcast on an early morning shift drive-in to the Pittsburgh Potty Factory. And I wanted to add in and weigh in on
Starting point is 00:41:39 most cursed franchise. And I did want to go back to making a contention for the washington wizards and solely on the i said the wizards that uh you had a period of time where you had an owner player of one of the most impactful players in the sport of basketball in Michael Jordan, only to have him simultaneously shit the bed as a player and a coach. I must say that in my occasional visits to the DMV growing up,
Starting point is 00:42:21 to visit family, unfortunately, that I had the privilege, so to speak, of watching Michael Jordan shit the bed live. I believe based on this, Washington Wizards should be in contention for the most cursed franchise. Hail to Pitt, fuck Penn State, And you boys have a good one. Thanks. Thanks, John. Yeah. Wizards are, you did mention, I guess he's kind of following, you know, echoing your choice of the Wizards being the worst.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Or maybe he just called him without listening to you. No, that is cursed. And it was cursed Jordan. Yeah, it was bad. I was a kid for that. I was bad. Yeah. I definitely agree there.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Alright. We got another voicemail here. We got a bunch. We'll keep going through them. Thanks, John, for calling in. Always appreciate. Always a pleasure. The world needs toilets.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The world needs you guys. You got to put in the work. Yeah. And John's the intersection of the two. All right. Just as the rivers come together in Pittsburgh, so do toilets and unions. Mm-hmm. All right. Here we go. We got, I think this and unions. Mm-hmm. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Here we go. We got, I think this is Pete. Hi, Tom, Liam. This is Pete. Tony, I see him. I'm from Seattle, and so to me, the Mariners is the most cursed team. Never made it through the World Series. Oh, they might be.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Only teaming MLS without the extension. They're in the AL West lead for now now and it seems every game is a mini heart attack hope they get to the playoffs and make a deep run and if not well cursed
Starting point is 00:44:11 that's a good best regular season team of all time too I know I we've said this before I've always liked the Mariners
Starting point is 00:44:19 I have nothing but love for the Mariners I will if the Phillies are not in the playoff I like the Mariners too I will actively root for the Mariners I If the Phillies are not in the playoff, I will actively root for the Mariners. I like the Mariners, too. I've always liked their colors.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I've always loved Ichiro. I said his name correctly this time. Yeah. I said Ichiro. Ken Griffey Jr., yeah. I remember that. I remember playing him at MLB Baseball 97 on like my N64. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Always going to Arbiter. You had to like line up the single tiny little circle with the ball. It was like impossible. It was so fiddly. Yeah. I wonder what the actual Japanese pronunciation
Starting point is 00:45:02 of Ichiro. We're probably butchering it. Ichiro. Ich. E-C-I-R-O. Ichiro. There we go. Good enough.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We get credit. I think we get partial credit. You tap the R in Japanese. And Suzuki's just Suzuki. Yeah, no. I'm sad to say it, though. But keep fighting the good fight out there, Mariners fans. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:30 We love you. Cool, cool colors. They do have nice colors. They do have nice colors. And when you're a kid, that's a big... I'm familiar. All right. Let me rearrange these voicemails real quick because I've got a few more.
Starting point is 00:45:49 There's one. The one ran long and he called back. It's okay. All right. We got four more. Oh, my God. Content. We should be good, though.
Starting point is 00:46:08 All right. So we have our favorite mail carrier. Calls in for an extra long voicemail. Yes. Hey, folks. It's Postman Wookiee calling from his sweaty ass, hot ass mail truck again from North Carolina. Pronouncing him. hot ass mail truck again from North Carolina pronouns he him I called last time about arena football
Starting point is 00:46:28 and I wanted to know your guys' opinions on it some updates since I last called my local team the Carolina Cobras who play in the National Arena League, the league that Antonio Brown got kicked out of
Starting point is 00:46:44 they're under new ownership and in the National Arena League, the league that Antonio Brown got kicked out of. They're under a new ownership, and the league is going to apparently is actually looking fairly bright next year. They announced the Wheeling West Virginia team is joining it. It's playing in the minor league. It's been really good this year. And there's another league that's currently failing again called the American Indoor Football, and the top two teams from that league located in Corpus Christi, Texas, in Columbus, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:47:14 They're the only two teams that have survived that season, and the rumors are that they're going to join the NAL. So, yeah, my Carolina Cobras are looking halfway decent next year. It's actually looking kind of bright next year. Now for the AFL. That sounds fun as hell. We should go to a game. Yeah. Another team. An eighth team has died.
Starting point is 00:47:36 West Texas Desert Hawks. They went under last week. The owner, Zach Bugg, went on a big, long live stream. Pretty much put his heart on the table and just explained everything that went down this year with the AFL. Pretty much he was promised the league was going to pay all the players $1,000 a week and all that, and they never did. And then the league was going to pay his print expansion fees
Starting point is 00:48:12 to leave the National Arena League. They never did, so he had to pay that himself to be able to play after the NAL was forced to file an injunction to stop him for a brief period of time. The thing that exists with the AFL is that at
Starting point is 00:48:33 Brainfart, they just canceled their final regular season week so everyone can save money. They expanded the playoffs from five to six teams which gets
Starting point is 00:48:49 the new commissioner, Jeff Fisher, his team into the playoffs now. Six out of the eight teams are in the playoffs. The two teams on the outside looking in, they're just going to continue. They were going to play themselves this weekend anyway,
Starting point is 00:49:07 so they're letting them play them. Oh, yeah, so he gets cut off here. Post Van Wookie once again. I know I ran long, but the news is just AFL news. It's just too stupid for me not to rant about. But they announced today that this year's Arena Bowl is going to take place in a neutral site at the American Dream Center in East Rutherford, New Jersey, where there is no arena football teams
Starting point is 00:49:35 that play anywhere near, so they're going to get hardly anybody who pays attention to the shit league to visit. And the American Dream Center is a fucking mall. They're going to play on the fucking ice rink at the fucking mall. Fucking incredible stuff. Playing at the Den Mall. I want to see that.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I want to go. It's a constant fucking shit show, and I love it. Thanks for all the laughs, guys. Have a good one. So thanks, Post and Feet. No, I like that you have this love for this obscure-ish sport. Dead sport. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I love this idea of, you know what? Fuck it. We're going to play at the dead mall. Yes. Oh, man. That is terrific. I would go to, I'm never calling it by its name the franklin mills mall right uh to to watch arena football yeah so would i with special rule because you know how
Starting point is 00:50:31 like it has those weird ramps yeah just imagine that being like inbound somehow like you have like the ramp you have like a shortcut so you have to like put two defenders yeah fucking rocks um defenders. Yeah. Fucking rocks. Yeah. Oh my god. Just imagine. You could have the South Jersey League. It would just be every mall in South Jersey. I'd watch that. Except for like the Cherry Hill Mall, I guess. Morristown Mall is not that
Starting point is 00:50:59 doing that great. No, it's not. No. RIP. We've talked about the Morrist Tomball many times on this podcast. Alright, we got two more voicemails. We got Charlie and then we got Carl. But no, before I go, thanks again, Postman Pete. That's your name now.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Appreciate the updates and yeah, looking forward to see how the... What's it called now? The National Indoor Football? The National Arena League, I think. Or something like that.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah, it happens. Oh, and I looked up Antonio Brown. Yeah, he was kicked out. He didn't pay his ownership installment. Oh, my God. Or a $1,000 fine. So they just kicked him out because they were like, he's not going to pay. They just fucking kicked him out. Good on you for just saying like that we're done um
Starting point is 00:51:50 yeah the uh apparently players complained about not getting paid by him and eight players were suspended after one player fired an aggravated harassment report with police over dispute that happened on team bus so everything that that man goes near turns to shit. Jesus Christ, dude. Yeah. Get that man. That man needs, like, therapy. Severely. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Um, alright. Uh, let's listen to Charlie, too. And, uh, that's literally what the file's called. Hey, guys. This is Charlie from Roxborough. He, him, yay, Liam, hey, Tom. Union lose their fourth straight game. They went up to Montreal.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Did take an early lead into the half, up 2-1 with goals by Sullivan and Jose Bueno. And then proceeded to give up three in the second half, including the time goal and then two late goals in the 89th and then 93rd minute to lose the game 4-2. Just, again, another just inconsistent, lackluster performance. They only had 15 outfield players, five on the bench, and just really cannot figure out anything
Starting point is 00:53:17 to where they could put together a good enough performance. They'll be in Chicago. He sounds so sad, Charlie. He sounds so grim. To New York, to the Red Bulls. I really don't see the losing streak ending anytime soon. It's just going to keep happening. Later, fellas. Jesus Christ, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh, boy. Billy Sportsman, they break your heart. Yep. Sorry, Charlie. Oh, boy. Billy Sportsman, they break your heart. Yep. Sorry, Charlie. Alright. We got our last voicemail. Hey, gang. Kyle from Cleveland. Pronouns he, him. Previously in an episode,
Starting point is 00:54:00 you guys were talking about the most cursed teams and goddamn. When it comes to the NFL, I had the worst fucking luck, dude. I was, like, born and raised proudly in Oregon, Houston, and Ohio in the fucking Browns, man. You're talking about a team that, like, used to win so well before the Super Bowl, and they've done jack fucking shit since. It's just, ugh.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Whenever I think of the Cleveland Browns, it's actually the last couple years, like, because we got kind of close. It's just, like, it's a slog, man. That's like being on the Eastern Front of World War II. You know you're never going to win the fucking thing. But, you know, the uniforms look good. You got, like, some good stuff going on. But you're just like, God damn. Oh, we also have a criminal running the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:54:49 So, you know, that's great. And I just fucking love the Browns, man. Like, I know they're a shitty team that sometimes does good. But I'm from Cleveland. Aren't used to it. And the worst part is the other team I like from the NFL is the fucking Vikings. I'm going to pause so that Liam can bring shit into me for liking the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Buddy. Okay, I think I should be fine now. Also, fuck you, Liam. Thanks, Carl. That's fair. I've been to the Vikings recently because I don't know, it seems to be a good culture. They just realize they're never going to win anything but they're just
Starting point is 00:55:26 not going to be there which is why I'm so fucking glad that at least in Cleveland we have the Guardians who are doing like shockingly good this year I know it's never going to be as good as the Phillies maybe but at least I have
Starting point is 00:55:42 the injury for and I also have the fucking Monsters the Cavs are who cares about the Cavs but yeah I would honestly say the Browns are just the most cursed because we've gotten so far in the past and have done jack fucking shit since
Starting point is 00:55:59 but well I'm a massive kid so I'm still going to root for them and turns out guys they're our worst NFL teams to be proud of. Anyway, fuck Penn State. Go Guards. Go Browns. Go Vikings.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Fuck you, Liam. Love you, but gay Liam, but also fuck you, Liam. Hate the show. Oh, hi, Tom. All right, bye-bye. You got it there at the end. The fuck did I do this? Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:28 There's the. I'm also really fucking drunk right now. Plus the Cleveland shit. Yeah, we know. Yeah. Yeah. That might explain the. Did he just compare to Cleveland Browns to the Vermont?
Starting point is 00:56:42 I think he was trying to say we're the Soviets. I'm not. I'm not sure. Okay he was trying to say we're the Soviets. I'm not sure. Like, hey, we suck, but we got nice uniforms. We get the Hugo Paws. Hugo Paws, Cleveland Browns, what were you doing from the years
Starting point is 00:56:59 1936 through 1935? The question, Cleveland Browns. Paying Deshaun Watson in a cave somewhere. $205 million. Yeah. Every Cleveland Browns fan's grandpa died in World War II. Don't ask how.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, they fell out of the guard tower. Oh. Hold on. Alright, there we go. Alright. Well, thanks for calling in. We haven't had a drunk caller in a while um nor nor any verbal assaults against you no that's that's okay um but that's on brand saying fuck you hate the podcast that that i guess that that tracks that tracks so yeah we we hate you too buddy um get some water yeah go get yeah get get uh liquid iv you can get the powder at temple is calling me oh boy are you gonna be the
Starting point is 00:57:56 next next football coach hi hi it was good news i'll text you what it was it was my test results and I so you know what I can talk about it on the pod I can cut it if you want no it's fine dude you can leave it in so I've been obviously like I'm a big boy I've had type 2 diabetes
Starting point is 00:58:20 I've been I'm down 40-50 pounds and I just learned today that my a1c is at goal bravo man thank you so we gotta get you yeah so for those of you you know putting the work and just uh anything is possible through temple medicine yeah i i i was here thinking that that you that it was John Fry's calling you personally and saying, listen, I've heard your podcast. I've heard the shit you said about Drexel.
Starting point is 00:58:50 It's true. How would you like to be the next coach of your 2020? Or Temple Owls. Temple Owls. They got the application I put in for you. You can't do any worse than the current regime. No. All right, let's wrap this shit up. Yep up yep that's where we're at guys so um yeah hopefully you feel better if you were feeling
Starting point is 00:59:13 a little shitty about what was going on um politically hopefully that's good uh take care of yourself take care of your health um what was the meme a fascist worked out today did you yeah so uh do that if you can um we are going to uh so when this episode drops i will be in an undisclosed location in another country so we'll probably miss a week i'll put a bonus we haven't decided which one We'll probably put an old bonus in the feed Just to keep the feed going But yeah And then we'll be back later in July But Hold it together guys
Starting point is 00:59:55 Thanks for listening We appreciate it Take it easy Stay cool Stay hydrated And we'll see you next time Bye Bye warm or stay cool, stay hydrated, and we'll see you next time. Bye. Say bye, Liam. Bye.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We're from Philly, fucking Philly. No one likes us. We don't care. No one likes us. No one likes us. No one likes us. We don't care. We're from Philly, fucking Philly.
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