Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Jack Kruse
Episode Date: November 8, 2023Robert F. Kennedy Jr and Dr. Jack Kruse join Tetragrammaton to talk about water pollution, corruption vs. capitalism, spirituality, running for office, the privatization of natural resources, the deat...h of Robert’s uncle John F. Kennedy, the history of SV-40, the medical industrial complex, the Monsanto trial, the chronic disease epidemic, and some of the things Robert would do as President. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an environmental attorney, activist, founder of the Children’s Health Defense, the author of The Real Anthony Fauci (All proceeds of his book go to the Children’s Health Defense), and a 2024 candidate for the office of The President of the United States. Dr. Jack Kruse is a neurosurgeon who had an awakening in 2007 when he suffered a torn meniscus in his knee at 6’2”, 357 lbs. This led to his further study of physics, light, magnetism, and electricity. He ultimately concluded that modern medicine lacked a deep understanding of how humans function in relation to the natural world. He published his first book titled Epi-Paleo Rx: The Prescription for Disease Reversal and Optimal Health in 2013. In addition to being a neurosurgeon and author, Kruse is CEO of Kruse Longevity Center, a health and wellness company dedicated to helping patients avoid the healthcare burdens typically encountered with age. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra ------ Ancestral Supplements https://ancestralsupplements.com Use code TETRA
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What are the major pollutants that get dumped into water and who dumps it?
Well, that depends where you are.
You know, I spend time with farmers in the Midwest looking at right there, water from their
wells anymore because agricultural chemicals have contaminated the groundwater.
And, you know, they're part of the dispossessed in this country,
this entire generation that's being mass poisoned
and then mass-propagandized.
And so that's sort of the drinking water,
I would say the biggest contaminant
is agricultural runoffs in most
part of the country, but it depends where you are.
It's really community like New York City's drinking water comes from three upstate reservoir
systems and two of them are fantastic.
And then one of them, the smallest one, the crowding system has 102 sewed treatment plants
that's charging into it.
And you know, on a dry year, 2% of the water that comes out of your tap has been through a sewer
plant.
There's no filtration.
And that water now contains all kinds of pharmaceuticals.
So they're finding these sub therapeutic levels of hormones, of earth control pills, of
all kinds of hormones, and
all kinds of antidepressants, and psychoactive drugs, you know, pro-zac, etc. in public water
supplies all over the country, and the water supply almost no water supply, as the kind
of carbon filtration system that you would need to filter that out. And, you know, in terms of non-drinking water, you know, probably the most serious pollutants
are actually nutrients and nitrogen, phosphates, potassium, which cause algae bloomed, which
then robbed the water of its oxygen. And they biologically impoverish these aquatic ecosystems because during certain times
the year there will be zero dissolved oxygen and the water supply has gone.
And then if we're looking at pollutants of concern, I probably one of the biggest concerns
that we should have is mercury.
It's coming from coal burning power plants and also comes from cement kilns from some mining activities that as now
Every fresh water fish in the United States now has dangerous levels of Mercury and its flight
So we're living like in a science fiction nightmare today where my children the children of every other American and
Now no longer engage in the seven-year-old
primal activity of American youth,
which is no fishing, and their local fishing hall
and then come home and safely to fish.
And that, to me, as a kid, I would have been unimaginable
that somebody would be allowed to pollute
every fish in our country, but it's become normalized now.
Is this a global problem or is this the biggest problem?
Yeah, no, it's global.
I mean, the worst of enders China.
That's so that, you know, just so you know,
the local, I should say the global fish market
has changed in your lifetime in mind.
Now there's aquaculture where they actually have to now
farm the fish because we've polluted the water so badly
that we have to wall it off.
I mean, that's, that's our legacy.
Yeah, and the farm fed fish,
the stuff they're feeding them is heavily contaminated with, you know.
Yeah, you clean the water up and then you ruin it with bad food.
I would rather eat a wild caught salmon than a farm fed salmon.
In terms of their toxic loads,
it's better to eat a wild fish.
But still the wild fish, you know, have like really dangerous
levels of mercury in them and other contaminants as well.
It's, you know, it's depressing the world that we're giving to our kids.
I just read something about a program where millions of genetically modified mosquitoes
are being released in different places of the world.
That's insane.
I mean, I don't even know how to talk about it.
It's insane.
It's insane.
It's, but it goes exactly to what he just said about go wrong. Exactly. No, how can
it go right? I mean, and it's Bill Gates, you know, funding all those, those are experiments.
And, you know, they, I don't know if it's a coincidence, but, you know, they did it in South
Florida. And for the first time in decades,
they had malaria outbreaks and so on.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Well, I don't know if they're connected
or they're with the...
We can't know, but it's interesting correlation.
Yeah.
Anytime you mess with a decentralized network,
you create a centralized problem.
How is something like releasing millions of mosquitoes
legal to do.
It should be illegal, I mean, it should be,
but all you can get a permit.
If you do the environmental impact statement,
you do all of the studies that you're supposed to do,
then there's a bureaucrat who can say, yeah, I do this,
but it just doesn't make any sense.
Nobody with any kind of knowledge of ecology would let that happen.
I understand what the, some of the experiments are more kind of benign and maybe conceptually,
okay, that might be okay, which, for example, you release male mosquitoes that are sterile and don't know they're sterile.
And the male mosquitoes don't bite people. It's only the females. They need a blood male in order to create their eggs.
Oh, if you release tens of millions of male mosquitoes, they are going to breed with the females and the eggs will be infertile.
So that was way to dampen production.
That is the theory.
Of course, that can go wrong in a million ways.
The really bad things are the ones that are just bad conceptually, which is you create
a vaccine.
And you give it to the mosquito and the mosquitoes then go out and vaccinate the population.
So if you get bit by mosquito, you're getting an antigen, a protein antigen from a virus.
How do you control the dosage?
Well, I don't know.
What happens if you get a hundred mosquito bites?
I mean, I think they're not really interested
in controlling their dosage.
They're interested in controlling vaccine hesitancy
and that's the complete solution to that
because you're getting bit by a mosquito
and you can't say no.
There was another plan to deal with global warming
by blocking out the sun. Have you heard that one?
I'm against all gene, NGO engineering projects, including all the carbon capture projects
they're all doing. I mean, I can't say they're all flim flams because, you know, I don't
know them all, but all the ones that I see and the ones that were spending tens of billions
with dollars on are wasteful low flim flams, and
we should spend that money, would be much better spent, helping farmers transition to regenerative
agriculture. Most of the problems we've talked about come back to a profit motive. Someone
has a profit incentive, and that's what makes them do bad things. And I've heard people
talk about it as, that's just the nature of capitalism.
What do you see your feeling about that? Yeah, the problem is not capitalism. The problem is,
let me put it this way, it's not free market capitalism. It's corporate crony capitalism.
And you know, actually I've always said that the best thing for the environment would be true free market
capital.
Because a true free market would promote efficiency and efficiency means is the elimination
of waste and pollution as waste.
In a true free market, we would be forced to properly value our natural resources.
And it is the undervaluation of those resources that cause us to use them wastefully.
And in a true free market, you can't make yourself rich without making your neighbors rich
and without enriching your community. But what polluters do is they make themselves rich
by making everybody else poor.
How would that system work? How could you make that system work?
Well, you would work because you force every actor in the marketplace
to internalize all their costs.
You know, when General Electric Company
wants to produce a capacitor or a transformer,
it's cheaper for ads on its PCBs and to the Hudson River.
The excess PCBs, right?
It's cheaper than properly collecting them and reusing them.
It's illegal for them to do it, but they're able to use the political cloud to escape
the licensing strictures and therefore to escape the discipline of the free market.
In a true free market, you bring all you internalize all your costs. So every cost that it takes to get your product to market, you have to pay.
And but what polluters do is they figure out ways to externalize their cost.
None to dump their, and that includes the cost includes cleaning up after
itself, which was a lesson we were all supposed to have learned in kindergarten.
Why don't you know, all pollution is a subsidy, where
the looters figure out a way to externalize their cause
and get the public to shoulder the burden of bringing
their product to market.
And by doing that, they can lower their price artificially
and send the wrong signals to the market.
And it distorts the whole marketplace.
And none of us gets the advantages
of the efficiency and the prosperity and the democracy that free market capitalism, otherwise around
this country. You show me a polluter, I'll show you a subsidy. I'll show you a fat cat
using political clout to escape the discipline of the free market and force the public to
pay his production costs. That's what all pollution is. And we have laws that make it illegal to do that, but the agencies are there
at this point to abet the polluter in escaping those laws.
So the problem is corruption.
Yeah, the problem is corruption rather than capitalism. I love capitalism. I think it liberates
the human spirit, and it's the corruption of capitalism that caused
us, that caused all the problems.
What changes have you made personally in your life that had the biggest impact on you?
To me, well, getting sober had the biggest impact on me.
How long ago was that?
In 1983, so 40 years.
Well, amazing.
That caused me to do a complete, let's say, spiritual realignment.
And recovery is part of my day to day life.
I go to a meeting every day.
And I've integrated that, you know, the whole meditation and, you know, trying to maintain
that spiritual connection, which is, I would say,
the primary governing feature of my life. How do you stay in conscious contact with God? How do you
work with one foot in the spiritual world and one in the visible world? That's our challenge. You know the challenge how do you
stay in that posture of subduing self-will and surrendering self-will?
And you know somebody said to me yesterday that we're not humans having a spiritual experience
We're spirits having a human experience and
That to me is a good way of looking at it because it means everything is kind of a test, you know, of your capacity to maintain that posture of surrender and
stay, you know, in that spiritual realm, you know, that living that life integrity and all
the things that that requires.
What is something that you believed when you were younger that you don't believe anymore?
You know, there's institutions that I've lost faith in that I was very idealistic about
and I was saying I leave about when I was younger.
And then I think I'm a lot less likely now to break particularly conflicts that you see
around the world
and to binary formulations.
Good guy, bad guy.
It's more comfortable to be,
and always understand that,
mostly human beings are good people on that.
They have a different set of assumptions,
but they're all kind of, we want the same thing.
I mean, even Republicans and Tanners
crash these days, I would say that I grew up with all kind of, we want the same thing. I mean, even Republicans and Democrats these days,
you know, I would say that I grew up with kind of binary idea
and that, you know, those categories are now breaking down
so radically right now that, you know,
this is very interesting.
How is the experience of running for office different
than you imagined it would be?
It's much funer.
Really?
Yeah, it's much more fun.
I mean, the biggest thing for me is that my wife is enjoying it.
And she was really frightened of it.
And there's just really good energy on that trail.
We're getting huge crowds.
We have 250,000 volunteers, which is more than anybody else.
And I just, I like it. I enjoy doing it. And I've been on a lot of campaigns of my life, and they were
always difficult. And this is just much easier. Have you been surprised by some of the people who
are supporting you and by some of the people who are not supporting and some of the people who are not supporting you?
I'm not going to say I'm surprised because I've been living with this since 2005, losing
friendships, losing, you know, I lost a lot of business relationships, I lost political
relationships that I developed over my whole lifetime because of my position on these public health issues.
I'm not surprised by it. Some people have surprised me. There's three particular friends of mine
who disappointed me, let's say. I tend to just accept everything as how it's supposed to be,
so I don't. You didn't.
I don't complain about anything.
But they were relationships that were very important to me and that, people literally
walked away from the set.
I'm walking away from the relationship.
But otherwise, I have four of my family members who have spoken out publicly against me.
And that I suppose was surprising,
but I also understand where they're coming from.
And I understand everybody is,
fooled with fear and confusion about this issue.
So I let that go and just say,
I hope the's where everybody, and I love people
who don't agree with me.
Tell me about natural resources that get privatized.
How does that happen?
You know, one of the essential doctrines and demography was, you know, for like 28-hundred
years, the Code of Justinian was one of the first efforts at constitutional
governance.
And the Code of Justinian was a constitution in ancient Rome that stated something that
everybody in Adley understood.
This concept of those things that cannot be easily reduced to private property ownership, but by their nature, are the assets of community, can never be privatized.
So that they included air, water, wildlife, fisheries, public lands, the wandering animals.
And there were some forests, there were something equivalent to national force, nation-rum, those were, you know, for the public,
and also the aquifers, which they also recognized in the nature.
And what they could have just said,
everybody owns those assets.
Everybody gets to use them.
Nobody gets to use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use
and impact by others.
So you can take your share, but you can't take all of it,
right?
And in ancient Rome, if on no matter whether you're
rich or poor, or humble or noble, white or black,
which there was Africans who were citizens of Rome
and Europeans.
If you had that gift of citizenship, then you had an absolute right to cross a beach,
throw in a net, take out your share that there's the emperors of Kusapu.
And that was a central right.
But what happens whenever a democracy begins to decline, you see elite entities add powerful
entities that come in and begin privatizing what is called the commons or the public trust
assets, which are these assets.
So when Rome collapsed in 375 AD, I think the burning of the Library of Alexandria,
then we had 800 years of sort of darkness.
You had feudal kings and local lords and war, you know,
and warrior knights who were, who were,
began privatizing the public trials.
So for example, in England,
King John said that the, the deer, the game animals,
and the rabbits, that once belonged to all the people.
And now we're the possession of the barons
and the lords who own that property.
And that's what got them in trouble with Robin Hood.
Because the deer and the rabbits were the social safety net at that time.
They didn't have social security on employment, but if you're cropped and come in, you could
go feed your family by killing a deer.
Now that became illegal.
He also privatized a transport on the Thames and the other rivers of England.
He erected navigational tolls and gave the rights to collect tolls to powerful allies.
He also gave the fisheries, so the fish and the Thames and the other now had to pay somebody
a license to harvest those.
These were all social safety nets that belonged to the public.
Those reforms caused the public to rise up, and they confronted King
John at the Battle of Roneymead, and they forced him to sign the Magna Carta, which is called
the full name of it, is the Magna Carta and the Charter of the Forest. And it's the Bethlehem
of all of our Bill of Rights in this country. But it also provides for free and total public access to rivers, waters,
and the public trust assets.
And those rights descended to the people of this country when we had the revolution
our country.
And in fact, up until 1847, it was law and every jurisdiction in the United States that if you
owned a factory and smoked from your factory got into my house as little as one day a year,
I had an absolute right to close down your factory because you were just acting on my property,
right?
And they're on the public property.
And those laws, in order to make way for the industrial revolution, those laws were
gradually, were quickly eroded at that point by government officials, by judges, and by
others.
And it became much easier to trample on that right of that public trust doctrine was eroded
and corroded. But after Earth and then, you know, we got to a point
where the pendulum swung so far the other way. By 1969, which was a key year, that year,
the Kaya Hulker River burned with flames that were so I explained how a river burned.
It's hard to understand. It doesn't have a cousin gas thing.
Things that shouldn't be in it, my friend. I explain how a river burns. It's hard to understand. It's hard to understand. It's hard to understand.
It's hard to understand.
It was a clean air act in 1600 in England that was a capital offense.
They made it a crime to burn coal and all that stuff.
People are executed for it.
And it's always been a crime to pollute water.
But those laws were eroded.
And then, you know, the coyote river burns with flames
or eight stories high, they can't put it out. There's a coating of chemicals and hydrocarbons
all over the water. That same year, like Erie was declared dead, zero dissolved oxygen,
all the fish life disappeared. This is 69 years ago. The Santa Barbara wheelsville happens that year close all the beaches and cause billions of dollars the economy of Southern California
and you know the
Eastern Adam Paragrand folk in the most spectacular predatory bird in America when extinct
It was declared extinct that year
and And that was the clear-to-extinct that year. And all of these insults drove 20 million Americans out onto the street in 1970, the biggest
largest public demonstration American history.
And it scared the political classes to death both were public and endemic rat.
And over the next 10 years, they passed,
28, 11 years, 28 environmental laws,
the Clean Air, Clean Water Act, and Dangerous VISAAC,
Circular, Rikra, Safe Drinking Water Act,
the Mining Act, all of these acts that were designed to reestablish
those old public trust rights that had been eroded since the beginning of
the Industrial Revolution.
And so none of them were actually new laws.
They were actually just codification of laws that had been, you know, extents since Roman
times.
Wow.
And it was a restatement.
And each one of those laws, you know, we knew when we wrote them that the industries would be able to come
in and capture the agencies and we created EPA then, et cetera, Nixon was present. We knew
that the industry was going to come, capture the agencies and disable the enforcement mechanism.
So each one of those laws contains a citizen's supervision that says if the government fails to enforce this law, any citizen, and step into the shoes of the United States attorney
and prosecute polluters and for fines, now $33,000 a day, and get all your attorneys fees
back.
And that was my bread and butter for the first 30 years of my, you know, I was suing people under the, I brought over 500 lawsuits under those, you know, those laws, those statutes. Has it changed
since then? Well, I've changed because now I'm doing more plaintiffs' laws. You can
never really change behavior with those statutes because the fines were so little. And, you
know, these companies are making billions of dollars by cheating, by polluting.
And the courts would only give us a million dollars would be a huge, huge judgment.
But so for me, I moved into doing plaintiffs work in early 2000.
I started suing these companies on half of people who are injured and getting you
know big settlement i mean i want my first case that i actually argued
myself uh... was i against it uh...
i do ponte smelter lezinc smelter and and spelt her was virginia
and poisoned ten thousand families and i got one of the biggest judgments from
a jury. I think I got $643 million. The judges reduced those, so you don't end up getting
all that money. But it was a huge, it was a huge, against a big company to bond. It was
a very, very big judgment at that time. And I was like, oh, wow, this is like, I'm in
a different world now. And this actually can change corporate behavior because you win. If I want to
suit under the Clean Water Act, I don't even know if the CEO of DuPont would know that I
brought that suit because it's a...
It's a drop in the bucket.
It's a drop in the bucket. It's not even a rounding error for you know. Yeah.
And, but you get $643 million or $2.2 billion
judgment and that, and the lawyer on that case has the CEO
on the speed dial and, you know, the entire board is sitting
in a boardroom somewhere waiting for that to come back.
And they hear that judgment and they, you know, somebody
says, we got to change. So, to me, it was a much more potent weapon, you know, and I started
doing a lot more of those plaintiffs and, you know, the groups that are doing them, the plaintiff's trial lawyers,
are a group that I was very compatible with because they're all kind of,
they're, you know, they're alpha personalities who are, you know,
committed to poor and powerless people.
They're all lives are about that and they're super smart.
And, you know, and they're like,
you know, they're army, and they know how to win war as these big shots.
They're not just fighting for crumbs, it's existential as some of these companies.
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You read my, you read the Fauci book. The Fauci book was spectacular. My life has been taken apart by the pre-fouchy story. Why? Because I happened to be training in a place where nefarious
things were done that set the conditions of existence for what you wrote in the Fauci book.
Now, you know about Operation Paperclip, you know about MK Ultra,
but you know that it was done on the floor as a Tulane neurosurgery and neurology.
That's across the street from where I did my residency at LSU.
They're separate medical schools,
but LSU and Tulane neurosurgery,
when I went through, we were kind of combined program.
And I had heard all these stories about,
you know, some crazy stuff that went on
in the neurosurgery department, you know,
in the 50s and 60s.
So of course, I asked questions.
I'm a guy from New York, so I'm interested
in finding this stuff out. And long story short, I'm a guy from New York, so I'm interested in finding this stuff out.
And long story short, I started to begin to hear the stories about a lab that was on magazine street that was tied to the Tulane neurosurgery, Tulane neurology work that was being done.
Early in my residency, this was to show you how old I am. We used to do Bowser tip
aneurism surgery. And back then we didn't have endovascular stuff so we had to
split people's chest open to stop their heart to clip the aneurism in their
brain. So the gentleman who actually was the cardiovascular surgery to do
that was John Oshner. That's the son of Alton Oshner. And J.O. was a southern, he was a pretty quirky guy,
but he was pretty chatty.
And one of the questions that I had after my first two years
at Charity Hospital, what started all this,
is Oliver Stone, film JFK, my intern year.
So I was in the emergency room when they filmed that movie. So this is the
reason why all this stuff percolated up. So I go to Oshner. And one of the villains in that movie was
Fairy. Right. Oh, it had worked in that lab. Right. But it had a lab in his own house. Well,
Fairy is the most interesting one that ties to your Fauci book.
And that's the reason I asked you, did your dad ever tell you anything
about the death of Ferries?
Because one of the things you know about your uncle's death,
that I always found amazing is that the only place that anybody ever came
to trial was in New Orleans because of the Clay Shaw link.
That goes to Jim Garrison, right?
But Jim Garrison went after Shaw and not Oshner.
He knew about Oshner.
And I don't know if you know that.
That's part of the reason why I really want to discuss this with you
because when Ferry was killed, your dad actually called
you know, Ferry was just from the movie.
He was a pilot, a train in the air national guard in Louisiana with Lee Harvey Oswald.
When Oswald was very young, I think he started training as a pilot when he was 16 years old
on the North Shore of Louisiana.
And then Ferry became a pilot for the Eastern Airlines.
Yeah, but he was a pilot for the CIA doing gun running to Cuba.
And Jim Douglas's book, The Hunts of the Equal Ball, he was the pilot who was in Dallas
on November 22, when my uncle was killed,
and was allegedly transporting people,
some of the people who were involved,
including some of the people who were involved in my uncle.
I see them, I know that.
And so, and he was also involved with Dr. Ashwell.
He had kind of a satellite lab at his own house, and when
he was killed or died.
Well, that's the funny part.
Your dad calls...
Yeah, to Adam.
Big Chetta.
Yeah, I remember that.
My father called the coroner to try to figure out whether it was an accidental death or
a natural death or whether it was suicide. A lot of this stuff, you know, I'm reaching back for years.
He was an interesting guy because he was a very strange looking man because he had a
alopecia.
He painted a black thick eyebrows on himself and he had a very weird bad, bad toupee.
And he was part of this of the gay mafia in New Orleans, which was also part of that
Cuban underground that was linked to the mafia.
There were three mob families, Traffick Codzi, who was from Tallahassee, Giancana, who was from Chicago, and
Carlos Marcelo, who was the New Orleans Dallas boss.
And he was a Libyan or Algerian, correct.
And my father actually had him deported repeatedly once, he had him deported barefoot to the jungle in Guatemala.
And he was in a jury trial that my father was trying to, at the day that my own goal was killed, he was on trial.
All of those bosses, my father was prosecuting. They had all been involved with the casinos in Havana.
And so when Bill Harvey, who was the head of the Miami station, recruited, they wanted
to get somebody to kill Castro.
They went to the mafia.
They went through a mobster called Johnny Razzelli, who then became liaison to the three big families.
And they then all became involved in training with the Cubans first for the Bay of Pigs
and then later on for, these were the people who were involved in present-generalty stuff.
And just you know, Ferry was one of the pilots that was involved in the Bay of Pigs.
He was actually shot down.
So that's the reason why he was anti-Canody
because he didn't get the air support.
The other big part of the story is
how does a guy who's a defraught priest
fired from Eastern Airlines,
wind up working with the best cancer researcher in the world in Mary Stewart.
Who was the person that put this together? Well, Jim Garrison had the pieces. The key piece was Clay Shaw,
was one of the Neocons that worked with the CIA, who had a direct link. And this is the really interesting part of this.
When Ferry was killed, his dad calls Nick Chetta.
Very called up and said, you just killed me.
Correct.
He called up, I think, Harrison released his name.
He did.
And he called up, Gary said, and he said, you just killed me.
I'm a dead man.
And the next day he was dead, natural causes.
So wild.
Yeah, I mean, the best book on this, I don't know if you've read it, but it's a book called
The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas.
I think the two that I brought you today, I think you're the one.
Those are very good, but Douglas is in a different realm.
I've read the both of those books, is that right?
Yeah, and Douglas is in a utterly different realm. He is an extra, every word is documented.
And what he's done, the Warren Commission
have very, very little data available.
Since then, there's been probably a million pages
of documents released.
And many of the people who are involved in my uncle's
that have made confessions, probably 20 of them.
None of that was available in the 64 during the Warren Commission.
None of it was available in the 79 during the House Elect Assassinations Committee.
Investigations, which was much more thorough than the Warren Commission, the House
Select Assassinations Committee concluded that it was conspiracy and that Bob
Blakey, who was the chief counsel at commission, believed that it was probably, that it was
a more mob than CIA, but later retracted, has since retracted, and House says that he
is convinced that there was CIA involvement.
So, all of the other people admitted that they were part of it.
Yeah, I mean, people like E Howard Hunt,
who was one of the plows who admitted being on the initial planning stages,
he didn't admit involvement in the end.
He said, I was there with Bill Harvey.
And I wasn't, I wasn't, he said
he didn't want to get involved because Bill Harvey, but he said the plan, that that plan
had evolved into my uncle's assassination. David Morales, who is the chief headman for
the CIA, he did the operation. Phoenix program after my uncle's death killed 25,000 people, I believe,
and Vietnam. And he was later, you know, and then he later died under mysterious circumstances.
He died of knowledge. You don't find that to recurrent theme. It's an unbelievable fact that we're still living in this numb, propagandized environment.
It's because it's effective.
Also, you know, it was illegal.
The CIA to propagandize American people.
That was in its charter.
It's an act called the Smithmont Act, an 80-legal.
And then they admitted it.
You know, when it came out in the church,
or when they admitted it, and they,
a lot of articles that were very alarmed and critical of it.
And so the CIA at that point promised
that they would stop doing that.
They remained today admittedly the largest
funder of journalism worldwide. So they pump $10 billion in through USAID to fund newspapers,
newspaper journalists, television, etc. They own television stations, they own newspapers in all of the developing world and in Europe,
and they control them.
They're the biggest funder journalism in the world under USAID.
But in 2016, Obama changed the issue in executive order that appears to overrule the Smithmont Act and allowed
the CIA to once again propaganda is American people.
So, today, you know, you're seeing all these and we've done, you know, articles that show
the elevation of people who are clearly part of the national security stayed to run major magazines and newspapers,
including the Daily Beast, Salon, Slate, Rolling Sun,
Guy, who now, Rolling Sun was a counterculture magazine.
And it's now run by a guy called Noah Schlackman,
the unwetter was pushed called Noah Schlackman, the unwenner was pushed out Noah Schlackman,
now runs it, and he has deep, you know, grannishals and background in a national security state.
And so then you see the reporting and plays like National Geographic,
Scientific American, a lot of the, you know, press that has kind of foreign orientation will, you know, is run, but you'll
see that they were all, you know, COVID alarmists, they were all very promising, you know,
dismiss of any kind of questioning, and they're all pro-war, pro-Ukraine, but any war that they're pro, so you can see these kind of propaganda threads
that dominate those news organs.
And we've done a series of articles showing the links
between those magazines and the national security apparatus.
The propaganda is a huge problem.
You know, both in centralized medicine,
but also in what you've been doing,
you know, as an environmental lawyer,
but now running for president.
So I'm gonna ask you a question
a lot of big corners want me to ask you.
It's pretty clear that you know that war is expensive.
What do you think the connection between November 22nd, 1963 is in 1971 and Nixon,
I'm moving the gold standard?
My uncle was worried about the odc currency and you know, the odc currency was invented to
fund war. That was its whole purpose. And my uncle was worried about it. And just
before he died, he tried to reattach our currency to our green backs to a base currency.
So he, as you go, is still for stinking, but, is there to be? Because when I was a kid,
those were, you know, you kid, you could see them,
and it was kind of thrilled that you could actually
redeem this bill for gold or silver.
And I think they only lasted a year or something
after he died.
But then in 71 X and D couples, our paper cards
see from the gold standard.
And that was sort of the beginning, I think. you know, in many ways, the beginning of the end. And it was also,
he did it to fund the Vietnam War.
Correct.
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People want to know how you learned about Bitcoin.
Was it endoggously because of what happened through your family?
I have teenage kids and 20, 20, 30 year old kids, so they, you know, I heard about Bitcoin,
but I became interested in it during COVID because I saw what happened in Canada during the truckers strike.
Right.
Or you had truckers from all over Canada, very, very, very good.
The truckers in Canada are very diverse.
There's a lot of black Asian.
It was not, you know, they later deliberately tried to portray it as kind of a right wing
revolt, but it wasn't.
The truckers were being ordered to comply with all kinds of mandates, including vaccines.
And they protested and they started a parade of trucks from Alberta and BC all the way
across the country and they ended up in Ottawa and the capital.
It was a very peaceful demonstration.
They just wanted to meet with Trudeau.
And if you look at the videos of the demonstration, it was like Woodstock.
They were doing garbage pickups.
They were doing cookouts and feeding the poor.
It was really kind of this very magnanimous, idealistic movement.
And there were efforts to betray it as right wing.
In fact, on two occasions occasions people went in with Confederate flags
wearing baklava and military boots and the truckers chased them out.
And yeah, that was the picture of the Confederate flags and ended up in the newspaper.
So, Trudeau says, declines to meet with them and says they're dangerous at their right wing.
And he then does something that I had warned about a few months before I had gone to Milan
and I had read about what was happening with central bank digital currencies in China,
where they had now programmable currencies, which means that if you fall below a certain score on your social credit score,
you get punished. So if you didn't have a mask on over your nose during a mandatory
mass day, you'd be seen on facial recognition systems which are everywhere in China.
They deduct from your social credit scores,
or if you get too close to your girlfriend during a social distancing day, they penalize you.
And the way they penalize you is that your credit card won't work anymore except within
May. Grocery stores within a certain radius have your own.
I'll let you get on airplanes, I'll let you get on some ways or anything. I gasoline for your car, well, let you, you know,
get on some ways or anything else.
And so, this exists now, you're saying.
It's a challenge.
That's a challenge, but about a month before Canada,
I was in Milan and I was, and they were doing
vaccine passports and they were imposing them.
And I said, the second that you allow them to do that
is the vaccine passport has all your medical records
but it has all the things I could have your financial records etc.
I said the second that you do that every right that you have suddenly becomes a privilege
that is contingent upon your compliance with a government mandate.
And I said, here's how they're going to enforce it.
They're going to give you a social credit score.
It sounds paranoid, but I said that's what they're doing in China.
So don't let them do it here.
And then a month later, the in Canada, Trudeau then has all these truckers.
They, you know, the none of them have been charged, but they use facial recognition system.
And they use surveillance systems to get the license plates on their cars, on their trucks.
They know they are and they freeze all their bank accounts.
It's illegal.
It's illegal, it's illegal.
Yeah, I mean, because not in Canada.
They change the law.
Yeah, they change the law.
Because of this happening, Trudeau actually invoked
something to allow this to go on.
And the craziest part is the rest of the people
in the legislature allowed it to go on and the craziest part is the rest of the people in a legislature
allowed it to go on yeah, and these guys use Bitcoin to survive this event
That's the point not only that but they collected on PayPal they can they collected millions of dollars from a fund
From people all over the world I said 20 bucks
So I could go fund me and pay about frozen and
all I said, 20 bucks. It's like a go fund me and pay about frozen and confiscated.
Has that ever happened before?
No.
So at that point, I understand what centralization, why it's a problem.
I immediately saw with a lot of clarity that transactional freedom is as important
of freedom of expression because if the government can starve you to death, you know, you know,
freedom of speech becomes irrelevant if they can take your mortgage, if they can put
you and your children on the street, if they can put, I mean, I had one of these truckers
tell me that he couldn't pay his album on me and the police were coming after him. So
he, you know, because Trudeau had frozen his bank account, he was now in jeopardy of losing
his freedom altogether.
And at that point, that's when I said, okay, you know, Bitcoin is a way, because they were
also, if you remember, in COVID, they started to say, oh, paper currency is red germs.
And the ATMs started disappearing in a lot of countries,
they took away the ATMs.
I could see their Chinese gift as to, you know,
all digital currencies, you know,
and credit cards.
And what you really want.
That's the goal.
And the reason why I'm glad he's talking about this
is because, you know, in the Bitcoin community,
people say, well, we think Bobby Kennedy
just is learning about Bitcoin from David Bailey.
And I said, I don't think that that's the case.
I wanna ask him directly, not only how this ties
to his family, what happened in 63, 71,
but this is-
Stop the David Bailey.
David Bailey is a big Bitcoiner.
Well, I'm glad that you're saying that too,
because that makes me even more happy
because it sounds like you came to this endogenously and realize that this is an abridge to freedom.
And the question I have for you is do you think that some of the recent current events that have
just shown up because of scientists that showed there's a problem
with the vaccine with SV 40 in it, with DNA plasmids when that stuff wasn't supposed to happen.
And when you consider some of the legalese that was in the emergency authorization,
I'm concerned that the things that happened in that lab with David
Ferry, the exact same things that they did before we knew about how molecular biology worked.
They used a linach to create small little pieces of DNA and SV-40 to concentrate something
and it's beyond me how now we know because of Kevin McKeeernan and because of Philip Buckholz,
two guys who probably you would have fought against in the last 10 or 15 years, now have shown
Beyond of Shatter Adout that the same thing that Mary Stewart and Sarah Stewart wrote in the treaties
that was found that David Ferry died, that's the smoking gun that Garrison had.
I don't know.
I mean, that book is very compelling, but I don't know.
Do you know the story of SV-40?
No.
So, SV-40 was in the early, about polyvexanes, they were growing the polyavirus on a substrate of a masticated monkey
kidneys.
African green monkeys.
Yeah, they were using African green monkeys.
They were also, there's other forms of the vaccine.
Stanley Kupinski's was using bot-about chimpanzees, which there's a whole book about that,
where the HIV virus made the leap into human beings.
But anyway, what they didn't know at that time,
because you couldn't see viruses, you can't find them,
you know, they're too small,
there was no microscope at that time.
I'll remember DNA was discovered in 53.
This is going on in 50, 51, 52.
So the state of molecular biology at that time
was what I would call rudimentary.
Right.
So what they didn't realize, these monkeys had hundreds,
hundreds of viruses that nobody knew what would happen
if they jumped into human beings.
And now you're, and what they, there was a very, very famous scientist who was most award-winning
scientist at that time in NIH.
I was, my name is Bernice Eddie.
Wow.
And I think she actually knew Mary Stewart.
No, not only did she know her, you're making me very happy, Bobby, because guess what, the fact that you know Bernice,
because I'm gonna tell you the guy Kevin McKiernan,
I just told you about.
I tweeted at him yesterday, I said,
when I talk to Bobby tomorrow,
I'm gonna make you as famous as Bernice Eddie
because her career was destroyed for telling the truth.
She's the one, and he'll know this story better.
I don't mean to interrupt you, but I get excited when you get right there. for telling the truth. She's the one, and he'll know this story better.
I don't mean to interrupt you,
but I get excited when you get right there.
Marcus Hilleman, who is a leading researcher for Merck,
gets all the credit.
He invented that, and MMR Vax in hand.
He gets all the credit, though, for this story
that Bobby is laying out.
And-
And Joe, just to tell you, kind of briefly what it is,
she discovered that there were the
virus, there's all these viruses in it.
And one.
And one.
And one of the virus, they were, she called them simian viruses.
So as V, and the 40th one she discovered was a virus that was extraordinarily oncogenic
and it was extraordinarily oncogenic
and it was carcinogenic.
It did in cause cancer in the African-Grey monkeys,
but two days out of 2023,
anytime S-V40 is in another vector, it causes cancer.
Yeah, in fact, they use it in laboratories
that are studying tumors,
they use it to induce tumor growth. So you give
it to a guinea pig and it will sprout tumors like a mushroom field. You know, it's the most
carcinogenic stuff that they know of. At least that when I was looking at it, it was
absolutely sturdier. Why was this research happening in the 50s?
Well, they were making polio viruses on the truth. Why was this research happening in the 50s? What were they trying to do? Well, they were making polio viruses on the substrate,
so the way that you grow a vaccine,
why, though?
That they get that make a vaccine.
When you mass produce a vaccine,
you need to grow the culture.
And you have to grow it either on human tissue,
which is hard to get, and you know,
legal problems and ethical moral problems.
Or you can, and also there are disease problems because if the human has a disease, it could get in,
you know, the vaccine is not pure. A lot of that, that monkey material is getting into the vaccine,
and the viruses we're getting into the vaccine. And Bernice, at a right before they distributed the vaccine, there was 98 million doses about
to be distributed.
She goes to her boss and I said, you can't do it because it's filled with this carcinogen
that's going to give everybody cancer.
She injected just so you know she injected the monkeys with the color vaccine and they
got polio, but here's
with the story.
I'm not sure.
That is kind of another part of that story.
Let me tell you the part that I want you to hear.
So guests who was a big investor in cutter pharmaceuticals, Alton Oshar.
So what did he do?
He got the entire medical staff in 1951 in the amphitheater, brought his two grandchildren in and injected his granddaughter
and grandson. Oh yeah, and they died. And the grandson died of polio five days later. And then
guess what, the granddaughter got polios who survived. So who tells me this story is John Asher,
the guy that I told you before. It's an unbelievable an unbelievable Where goes Eddie reports this to her bosses at NIH and they ignore her they tell her to shut her mouth
Wow as there was so much publicity at that time that they had this vaccine that was gonna eliminate polio
And it was you know, there was like a freight train or a you know, an engine
That they could not stop.
At this point, they said, no, we can't put the brakes on this thing.
So, she then kept her mouth shut, but then about six months later, she was at a New York
Academy of Science meeting.
Right.
She went to a conference of scientists, and you know was so frustrated at that conference which was an insider's group
He told them and they and and I age went berserk. They moved her the basement
They took away her laboratory
They took away her telephone and they told her that she was not allowed to talk to anybody
without permission from the NIH bosses.
You know, she really...
She was scrubbed from scientificism.
But so was the people that worked with Rennie's.
And by the way, our generation, which, you know, I'm 69, how old are you?
Sixty.
Yeah, so my generation was that baby blue generation.
We all got that vaccine this year.
And, you know, I think the soft tissue cancer,
which the cancers that it causes are 10 times
what they were in the previous generation
for my generation, all these, you know,
breast cancers, colon cancers, et cetera.
And in many of those cancers,
in the tumors, they find SV40.
Wow.
So Rick, think about this.
Who was the first head of the National Cancer Institute, Altenosher?
Who was one of his best friends, Richard Nixon?
Who declared the Warren Cancer, 1971?
Richard Nixon and Altenosher in the back seat of a Lincoln continental.
I told you I had the picture over, right?
So you asked Bobbie a question earlier.
How and why?
Altenosher knew that he caused a huge problem.
So what was the solution?
To go find the two best scientists in the world
that could somehow figure out how to activate SV40.
What was the idea? To go get an off
covert ops through the four congressmen I told you about Louisiana, Hale Boggs me in one of them,
and they got a Hale Burton grant for Oshner to get a Linux. The Linux was put in the basement of the US public. The Linux is a linear accelerator.
Which is one of the most complex and expensive these emissions.
Even today it is, but just so you know Bobby.
And it was put in a US public health hospital across the street from children's hospital
on Henry Clay Boulevard.
Makes no sense.
Well, it makes a lot of sense when you understand the story
that I want you to understand and how I came to know this stuff
and why I came out so hard and heavy against COVID,
you know, before the vaccines in 2020.
When I told all my members, if you take this,
you are gonna have a problem down the road
because I felt and I've been
vindicated now that the same things that happened in that underground lab on magazine street
and at the US Public Health Hospital would show up and cut our 2.0, which is what we're
living through right now.
And guess what?
Kevin McKeeernan was the first guy who did what Bernie said he did.
He said, look, just so you know, he's the guy that worked on the human genome project.
He's a molecular biologist, very, very good guy.
He now works in the cannabis industry, doing molecular biology for them.
He happened just to take some expired vials, decided to check it.
And he found the DNA plasmas, which shouldn't be in there, according to all the
... ...the assay 40, right?
...and regular DNA plasmids and he reported it.
So, who got on his case?
This guy named Philip Buckholz, who is a huge geneticist from the University of South Carolina.
So, they got into a Twitter war, and Buckhol said,
I'm just gonna cut to the chase
and prove this asshole wrong.
So he does the same things, takes the same vials,
and finds exactly the same result.
A reason I'm concerned now,
because I made the point.
What is Buckhol's dead, does he come clean?
Oh, he's an academician,
who's totally part of the vaccine lobby. Yeah, but guess what now he's confirmed
the modern-day Bernice that he's finding
So now where we are and I know you've been busy the last couple weeks
This is the latest current events going on in this world. Yeah, I
Saw references to it, but I haven't, that they've now found.
They've found it.
And the reason why this is interesting is contaminants.
And well, why don't you explain what they are?
What the DNA plasmid is.
And I want to go back to really what Sarah Stewart, Mary Stewart,
and the linach meant for this.
Why did Ossher get in this game?
He was trying to solve a problem that he caused.
So he thought by radiating these viruses a good idea. Sarah Stewart was the smart smart smart one.
She went to medical school at the University of Chicago with Sarah Stewart and she was the first
one that ever came up with the idea that viruses caused cancer. Everybody in the NIH at that time thought she was batshit crazy, so they put her to the side until the stuff of polio showed up. Then she gets
reassigned from the NIH to the U.S. Public Health Hospital where Mary Stewart is there. So
what is Sarah Stewart? Because Sarah Stewart wrote the recipe of how the signs are done. Jim Garrison found that in David Ferries,
apartment when he was dead, okay?
Sarah is the Einstein, who's the theoretician
to figure this out.
Mary Stewart was the experimenter.
She is the one that was trained in nuclear physics.
At the University of Chicago, she know how to use a let-ac.
So what did Oshner do with the help of the people
and the government?
Remember, these are the people, Russell Long,
who used to be UEP Long's son,
is a prominent senator, Elender, Hale Boggs,
there's all four.
They control the entire military budget.
And one of the guys get fried in that linear accelerator.
That's the story that I'm wanna get to, Bob,
because that's what we've got fried.
It was Mary Stewart.
Yeah, that's right.
And Mary Stewart gets fried.
Why?
Because what was the goal?
Explain getting fried, that's it.
Well, we're gonna get there,
but there's parts of this that you need to get.
I remember reading about it,
but it's not a good thing to walk into one of those.
Well, there was a guy literally,
a power woman.
There was a guy that actually built linear accelerators.
His name was Nigard,
and he happened to walk in front of one,
and he completely disintegrated.
Like, he had no body left.
But here's where the story gets interesting.
So what did Oshard do?
He gets the people to give him a Hillburnt and Grant. Hellbox is one of those guys.
They buy this machine, put it in the US Public Health Hospital, reassigned Saras Stewart, get Mary Stewart from Osherd to go over there, and then begin to
irradiate the SV-40
virus to try to kill it. And what did they find experimentally? That they actually strengthened it,
and it became a bio-eapon.
So, that's unbelievable.
No, it's not unbelievable because guess what?
We know how it works, why?
Because let's fast forward now to today's scientists.
Why did I warn people this was gonna come?
This guy Schlemmer figured out,
this is ancient, you know, to guys like Buckehalts and
McKiernan, that 7% of DNA is naturally transmitted from the virus into humans. That's the base rate.
When you add an X-ray, like the electromagnetic spectrum to the mix, you stimulate DNA repair. So you concentrate the effect. That's effectively what
Mary Stewart found. Why doesn't modern day McKinan know this? Bobby probably is already putting this
together because this was a covert operation that was never published in the literature. So he has
nothing to go back and say why this happened. I'm telling you why it happened.
Because at the time in New Orleans,
when Oshner saw that he couldn't solve the SV-40 problem,
he actually saw another way to take care of his Cuban problem.
If you make this virus and put it in tobacco
or get somebody to inject,
guess what?
You can induce cancer literally overnight, even in humans.
And guess what, Ferry, Judith Ferry Baker,
Lee Harvey Oswald, and Mary Stewart Fount,
that it worked.
Why did Clay Shaw get put on trial by Garrison?
Why was he the guy?
Because the day before Martin Luther King's speech,
I have a dream.
Clay Shaw drove his black catalog
to Clinton, Louisiana with David Ferry
and Lee Harvey Oswald,
where they transferred a patient from Angola prison
to a mental hospital in Clinton, Louisiana.
Why did they pick Clinton?
Because it's a sleepy little town, mostly black, nobody would be there.
But what magically happened that day to let you know that the orthodoxy behind his uncle
and his father's ultimate demise was coming, Lee Harvey Oswald decided to register to
vote in the middle of a black town the day of I have a dream speech.
And the reason for that is because that's the day they were going to inject the bio weapon
into the prisoner.
When did all hell break loose?
It worked.
They brought Judith Berry Baker up to test the prisoner who got the cancer literally and
was dead within two weeks.
She went nuclear on Alton, OSHA because she was promised as part of this lab
that she would be able to go into Tulane Medical School, get advanced standing because of all the
work that she was doing with Sarasthur and Mary Sturick. So she takes off. Altenausha says,
you're never going to medical school, you're done. Just so you know the timeline here, this is the end of August of 63.
The timeline between the people in the book that you talked about before,
this was a race, do we get Kennedy or do we get Castro?
Then they knew that they had this weapon, here was their problem.
Do you remember when Lee Harvey Oswald defected to Russia and then went to Mexico and everybody was like,
this seems like the weirdest story.
They needed him to defect to Russia so that he could get in to Cuba to deliver the bio-eapon.
Turns out there was a big flying out of him and that Castro was on top of that.
So what happens eventually?
The whole lab dissipates, goes away.
Six months later after his uncle was killed,
Mary Stewart is going back to continue her research,
and magically the kill switch, there's a huge problem.
She grabs it with her right hand, pulls it down,
her right arm is completely disintegrated.
Her thoracic cavities exposed, underlying organs exposed.
This, of course, makes big news in New Orleans.
It's in the time-spiky unit.
And the NOPD says that it was a mattress fire
that caused this problem.
Well, they took her body and put it in there.
They moved the body from the US Public Health Hospital
to there, and here's the thing.
Nick Chatter.
And Nick Chatter had a mattress. Right.
And they lit it on fire.
They lit on fire, but it only half burned.
And it just was, you know,
there was no way that the forensics matched the injury.
Yeah, anybody who knew you.
Actually, I think in that book that you gave me before,
I think it was Mary's monkey. The author of that book describes kind of graphically and very interesting that he goes
to a lot of crematoriums.
And he interviews the people in the crematoriums about what does it take to actually disintegrate
human body.
And it has to get up to, you know,
100, 2000 C because what's always left is the bones.
Remember, all that he looks at,
she has no right arm.
The bones aren't even there.
Right, how I'll hide, yeah, that's right
because the cream it's where I'm to say,
and he can't get rid of the bones.
Right.
They have to grind it up.
That's actually what's in your ashes.
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Long story short though, this murder goes down six months after his uncle's killed, but you know why? Because that she was the only link. What happens in the
autopsy, Nick Chetta, the same guy we talked about, Ferry, does the autopsy on her
and finds that there was a surgical wound place between her six-in-a-cosl space.
Neither one of you are doctors, but you happen to be sitting next to one. I'm going to tell you that's exactly a kill shot to get into someone's heart.
And why was that the case?
Because when she got this electricity, she wasn't grounded.
And I went down to this hospital when I was a resident.
And there was huge grounding things on either side.
Okay?
That current went straight through her.
She was still alive when this injury happened.
So they transported the reason they had to get rid of her
is because she was the hard-linked evidence back to Oshar.
And that was the thing that I was very concerned about.
Now, I didn't tell you this earlier.
How did I put all this together?
You know who my emergency room nurse was?
My first month of residency for Jenny Garrison.
She worked in the Echarity Hospital.
And what is her relationship with Jenny?
Jim's daughter.
And she told me, she goes,
I know that later in your neurosurgery residency,
you're gonna go to Austin. She goes, I know that later in your neurosurgery residency, you're going to go to Austin.
She goes, I want to tell you, be very careful when you go over there.
And I thought, you know, this was like shocking because this is a woman who was just like her dad.
She was a bulldog.
And I'll never forget what she said to me.
She goes, just be careful, especially with the sons of Alton.
Because at that time, Alton Ossher died in 81.
He was dead about nine or 10 years.
And everybody in New Orleans to this day
still thinks glowing things about him.
But when I got into neurosurgery
and I started to realize going down to the basement,
the Linux move from Mary Stewart injury,
they called the Linux I up to reconfigure the platinum hood.
It shows up in the basement of the place I do my residency
Where is it now?
Well, I can't tell you where it is now, but it was in the basement I residency when I graduated in the 99
And I can tell you that I used it with the neurosurgeons there to do brain tumor surgery, acoustic and rumors and things like that
The reason I want to bring this up to you is because I had the opportunity to talk to
J.O. before he died.
And he told me straight up that his dad worked for the FBI, and he worked for the CIA, and
the reason that nobody knew that Tulane University was on par with Harvard, Hopkins, and the Mayo
Clinic is because this stuff, the stuff that you wrote about in Fauci's book,
about Forty Trick.
I want you to know the original lab was on magazine street,
and it was in the US Public Health Hospital.
It was then transferred to the Yerks lab
that I worked at as a resident,
and then in the Yerks lab, I happened to work
with an anestheszeologist whose dad
is really the first person that ran
the Delta Primates Center in coming to.
So hopefully your question that fits maybe,
this would be probably chapter zero of your Fauci book.
Where did all the stuff that Ossner and Ferry
and Mary Stewart go? It's my
belief that it went to the Delta Primate Center in coming to Louisiana. And that
happened in 61, on 64. Where was it eventually transferred to Fort
Dietrich? And that's when Bobby Kennedy's book picks it up. And the reason why I
think this is important, Bobby, especially with you running
for president now, my belief is if we forget history, we're doomed to repeat it, and I'm seeing
it unfold this story that started with your family back in the 50s and 60s is now manifesting
right now. And this is how I feel.
And I probably shouldn't get political about this,
but I'm going to.
The day your uncle was killed,
the heart of the American populace was removed.
In 68, when Martin Luther King and your dad were killed,
that's when the head and the soul of the country
was more injured.
I think what you're doing right now,
the way you've come to run.
This is the heart transplant that American needs right now.
It's a travesty,
concerning what we've talked about today,
what your family's been through, and what you've done.
I mean, let's face it, you put the target on your back.
I will say this, Yes. Because it's an interest what you've done. I mean, let's face it, you put the target on your back. I will say this, because it's an interest
what you said.
This morning I had a guy come over my fence.
That's why I was late getting here.
And I would previously sent me a week ago,
an email through another person that gave it to me,
threatening to put a bullet in my head. And this morning my security guards saw him come up with a fence and you know
we were able to arrest them. But that's why I was like coming here and I mean one of the
issues, you know, I worried about my family. Of course. And my wife was doing a Twitter space
at the time and watched him come over and then get arrested.
But also it's disturbing,
it ought to be disturbing to every American
because it's part of this politicization
law enforcement agencies, which we've seen,
which is one of the first things my dad did when he got to the Justice Department, was
to call all the attorneys into a conference and say there's going to be no political
prosecutions here.
We treat everybody the same and he ended up prosecuting people who knew well, including his brother-in-law
for an unannietrust issue.
President Biden has a buzz, my father behind him on the Oval Office. But this is something my father felt very strongly
about not politicizing the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service,
the IRS, and it's disturbing that that's happening today.
But it is so relevant towards happening,
which is really the decline of the Republic.
And we know it's going gonna happen at some point.
There's no empire that's lasted this long
and actually democracy is such a tiny sliver
of the human experience.
There's never really been a democratic government.
Democrat government is rarely the human experience.
We know it's unstable and it's fragile.
And we know that it can't last forever,
but I don't think any mess was sawed
in declining so precipitously.
My uncle came into office with this
with a real antithetically toward war.
He immediately encountered the military
in a national conflict, and he said that he didn't want African children to and Latin American
children and Asian children when they heard about the United States of America
and think of a man with a god. He wanted to think of a B-score volunteer of
the Kennedy Milk Program which gave nutrition to tens of millions
of malnourished kids around the world.
And the Alliance for Progress and USAID, which he created to put America on the side of
the board, to end run the military haunt as the olicar keys, who were hoarding American
dollars at that point, and instead put it into actually
building middle classes in this country and creating democracy.
And then four months in, you know, the big invasion, he was lied to by Dallas, by Richard
Bissle, by Charles Cabele, the three top officers of the CIA.
And when the men were dying on the beach, which was the lowest point in his presidency,
he publicly took the blame for the invasion for that episode, but privately, he said to his aides,
I wanna take the sea, I shatter it into a thousand pieces
and scatter it to the winds.
Bobby, I don't think a lot of people know
how all these pieces all fit together.
I cannot believe that the president of this country doesn't have the common sense to protect
you, irrespective of what the rules and everything else say.
Just for what your family has been through, we owe it to you as taxpayers.
And for him to make that decision, to me is unforgivable, absolutely
unforgivable. And for anybody to question you why you're not going to run as a
Democrat and you're going to run as an independent, that alone stands as a
perfect reason why you need to do it. The key thing is people need to know that freedom is under attack. It's under attack in many different ways.
The architects that Eisenhower talked about are now taking pitchforks, chain saws, and nuclear weapons to the pillars of this country.
What's in our constitution? And all of us collectively have to come together and say,
you know, we're sick and tired of this shit.
We need to take the country back.
We need to do what's right.
We may not always agree on every single issue,
but the one issue that we do need to agree about?
This country is about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It's in the founding documents.
But guess what?
John Adams and Thomas Sharerson never thought that the angle of attack
to the U.S. Constitution would be Anthony Fauci.
And it took 200 years to get there until we get the Buy-Dole Act
and back it up with the 86 vaccine, people forget.
The bi-dol act is the act that allowed researchers at NIH to collect royalties on any medical
product that they work on.
And actually NIH.
So it incentivizes that? Well, it incentivizes exactly kind of the perverse,
it's a perverse incentive that encourages the regular,
is supposed to find problems with the product.
Yes.
And you know, you got now, I'll give you an example,
the Moderna vaccine is owned by NIH, half of it, half the royalty is going to NIH, and then
there's six individuals that were hand-picked by Anthony Fauci who worked for NIH,
who have marching rights for the patent. So they can get royalties of $150,000 a year
get royalties of $150,000 a year for the entire, for as long as that product's on the market, as mRNA vaccines, which will be indefinitely on the market. So they're paying for their houses,
their kids' education, their boats, and you don't, you know, they now have very little incentive
Now, I have very little incentive to find problems with that product. Their incentive is to make sure that there's maximum uptake of that product, because that
maximizes their income.
The mercantile ambitions of these individuals and the institution itself, as you can see, will ultimately naturally subsume the regulatory
function of the agency, which is to protect public health above anything else. It's not
a good system. And that all started the by-doll act, which I think is 1984.
1986, I came in, but the point that I want to add to the Sunday he just
built for you, this is the cherry, just realized in the last four months that Anthony Fauci and
Collins got royalties over $350 million. Just realized that.
Well, the two of them did not get those royalties. People who worked. Yeah, but they get to dictate where the money goes. That's right.
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I don't know whether you'd call it a cartel, but it's a...
It's kind of what I would describe as a corrupt merger of state and corporate power.
Oh, it's all of these unamnitics and mechanisms of what we call agency capture.
I wish the regulated industries, the regulator becomes a sock puppet for the industry, it's
supposed to regulate. There's a well-documented
phenomena that happens everywhere, to different accents and agencies all over the world in It's unsterroids in the United States because there are, you not only have a pharmaceutical
industry that's making, that is now the biggest industry in the world, but you also, you
have the regulatory agencies that are financially tied to the pharmaceutical industry, for example, 50% of, or 45% of FDA's budget comes from
pharma, which is crazy. It's like, if I, you know, I, EPA is a captured agency. It's captured by oil and coal and
pesticides, not by pharmaceutical. I, it'd be hard for me to imagine how bad it, how much worse EPA would be if it got
50% of its revenues from coal companies.
Which is bad.
And it was dependent on the coal companies making money.
When I sued Monsanto, we came across emails that showed that the head of the
best side division at Monsanto for a decade was secretly working for,
I mean, the head of the best side division of EPA was secretly working for
Monsanto and he was taking instructions from him and,
you know, in one point they tell him to kill a study that's being done by another
agency, and he said, that's not even my agency.
I'm going to kill it for you, but you've got to give me a gold medal.
And the first two cases, they wouldn't let us show that to the jury.
The third judge did, and that's why we got 2.2 billion.
And that is what brought Montessan to the negotiating table.
That goes on throughout the industry, but what's happening with the
public health agencies where 45% of CDC's budget goes to purchasing vaccines and then promoting
their uptake. So you don't get promoted at CDC. I find any problems with vaccines. You get promoted by increasing uptake.
And that's how you're salary, your evaluations, your promotions are all linked to that.
And then NIH, which is the FDA CDC and NIH, NIH, I explained earlier that people in
NIH are actually allowed to collect royalties on the vaccines they work on. NIH is now the biggest incubator of pharmaceutical products.
It used to do straight science, but what it does now is it produces new drugs for the pharmaceutical
industry and then profits on them.
So their regulatory function has become corrupted.
And then you have these other very, very troubling ingredients, which is the involvement of
the military and the intelligence apparatus in vaccine production, and with other drugs
too.
But vaccines are a component of every bio-weapon.
So, and we started, but we launched a bio weapons arms race after the
anthrax attacks in 2001. And you know, bio weapons had been illegalized prior to that.
But the Patriot Act has a provision in it, and I'll tell you what, what, can I tell you
a little bit about the history? Please. Okay, you talked about Operation Paperclip.
Operation Paperclip was the first CIA project.
So it began literally in 1947.
The month of the CIA was created and the first mission of the CIA was Operation Paperclip,
which was a project to smuggle, take the Nazi scientists who had worked
on missile production, on bio-weapon production, chemical weapon production, and make sure
they weren't hanged at Nuremberg, because a lot of them had engaged in those endeavors and creating those they had used slave
labor.
And you know, the IG Farben, which created this icon B gas that was used to gas, that you
use at Auschwitz and the other death camps, was the biggest pharmaceutical company. It was a major player in the Third Reich.
There were entire trials at Newerl, that are called the IG Farm in Trials with their entire
executive suite was jailed because they were, I think they had 60,000 slaves and they worked
to death 30,000 of those. They were also doing a lot of human experimentation and all of this kind of stuff. But they were developing gases and they were developing bioweapons
for the Third Reich, which during the World War II, they didn't use Japan, had a much
more extensive program. Under a scientist called Shiro Ishi, who was like the main galley of Japan.
And they had had an extensive bio-weapon program.
They killed, they used bio-weapons during their war with China, which was happening simultaneously
to World War II.
And they killed half million Chinese using bio-weapons.
They're the only ones really to deploy it on at scale.
And so the CIA's job was to go get those scientists, make sure they weren't executed,
give them new names, give them new identities, and then bring them over.
The Kruthum basically. What?
The Kruthum.
The Kruthum to Fort Dietrich or to some other biolabs that we had in the United States,
so that they could, we could put them to work
developing bioweapons here.
Our bioweapons, we began pouring money in.
It was run by George Merck, so the head of Merck,
Roosevelt recruited him to run it.
And it was being run, it being run between 1947 and 1969.
You know Stanley Gottlieb, absolutely.
It was one of the really terrible human beings
who was running MK-Ult Ultra programs in Operation Artichoke. MK
Naomi, MK Dietrich, MK Ultra, the MK prefix means mind control. So they were studying,
they were using, they were using velocity. Well, they did everything. They did psychotropic
drugs. They did, in those, they did sensory deprivation. They did psychotropic drugs. They did immunosensory deprivation.
They did all kinds of developing, all kinds of poisons, all kinds of torture devices and propaganda.
And they were studying at hundreds of universities where they were pumping money to social scientists
at universities to study how do you control human behavior on an individual basis, including
how do you create Manchurian candidates, involuntary assassins, and then how do you do mass control?
You know, one of the propaganda techniques that work, if a foreign entity wants to impose
control on indigenous cultures,
you know, so, and they were studying all these things for years and those,
and those used a lot of chemicals which were tied into Fort Dietrich,
which was the big lab that was created around that time.
And then, but they were also dosing. They were doing open air.
They did over a hundred open air trials where they would try out chemicals.
They would, they would dose San Francisco or they would dose some other American city.
They did.
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50 cities. So from the beginning they weren't doing this to control other people. They were
developing these to control. They were testing it on America. One, it has the vulnerability
of America to a foreign bioweapons attack.
That's what they said they were doing.
And by the way, it was all being supervised by Nazi scientists.
It was really bizarre.
It's so crazy.
I mean, Bobby's too much.
It's unbelievable.
In 1969, they had to reach nuclear equivalents.
They could kill the entire US population.
They said for 29 cents per
death, which was better than you could do with a nuclear bomb, with a nuclear bomb.
Of that ear, Nick, and does the greatest thing that he did, which is he goes to
Fort D. Trick and he said we're shutting it all down. The only thing I think he
did in his presidency, that was good. They realized that well, you pass the
clean air act, clean water act, he created EPA.
He did a lot of it, keeping it screaming, but he did some good stuff.
So, but what they realized is that they were creating poor man's nuclear bombs, that if they could
keep them not only on nukes, that they were in good shape, because there's only a few people
could afford the program. If you develop a bio-weapon, you do. The scientists who
develop it gets his credentials from publishing. So they were publishing what
they were doing. You know, they weren't widely read, but you know, they were
accessible to anybody who wanted them. And they basically gave them blue prints for creating these things in a garage.
Wow.
And so, and they realized we're creating things
that are gonna be used against us.
And that can be developed on a busman's budget
with nuclear equivalents.
Yes.
So they realized this is a bad thing.
And Nixon and Kisinger
decided to shut it down. and they unilaterally
shut down all bio-wappers' developments.
Right at the time, they were closing for D-Trick, they were destroying all of their stocks.
The CIA and the Godlyb, Sidney Godlyb, Lenny and this guy, who was this really insane scientist who was
One of his principal obsessions was head transplants
Which he was doing a lot of unprimates. He was you know trying he was
Rick I have I actually have pictures from the Eurich slab
I actually showed it to him yesterday of the things that I used to see
That we would take the skulls off put the wires in and do all kinds of the things that I used to see that we would take the skulls off, put the wires in,
and do all kinds of different things. People don't realize that this stuff was going on
in American universities everywhere. And Tulane was one of the CIA's hotspots, which is why nobody nobody to this day knows that they were on par with Harvard, Hopkins, and Mayo.
So in 69 he says all over, Godly goes in there into in New York. And so the CIA maintains the ability to continue to develop these cultures.
In 73, thanks to Nixon, basically a hundred country signed a bio-weapons charter making
it illegal to research bio-weapons, et cetera.
That shut it down kind of.
The CIA was secretly still doing it with Battell,
Battell the engineering firm, and they developed an anthrax
bomb.
They did it all top secret and illegally.
But generally, it was shut down in this country.
And then in 2011, we get attacked.
And weekly, there's an anthrax attack.
And the anthrax is then used as a pretense.
It was explained on Saddam Hussein.
And it's used as a pretense to go to war with Iraq
and to pass the Patriot Act.
45 days.
Who got hit with the anthrax? The two senators who were leading the fight against the Patriot Act. 45 days. Yeah, who got, who got a head with the, with the anthrax?
The two senators who were leading the fight against the Patriot Act.
My head was taken off the shelf.
Uh huh.
A 9-11 and ran through Congress.
Nobody read it.
The only congressman to actually read it was Dennis Kucinich, who was, you know,
until recently running like that.
Also, you give credit to Barberley.
She's the one that voted against it and took a lot of money.
Kusinich voted against it too. So they, um, what the, the Patriot Act then, the, the two
senators who were sent anthrax with the two guys who were leading the fight against the
Patriot Act, Tom D'Age, and Leahy. And they, it shuts down Congress, the act passes in record time.
You know, nobody's read it, but one of the provisions of the Patriot Act says that the
Bio-Weapons Charter is still SANS, and the Geneva Convention, which you know made a
death penalty for developing Bio-Weapons still stands.
However, no federal officer can be prosecuted for violations of those acts.
I like that. Indemifications. So they basically got rid of the Beijing Act now. What happened
in the backstory is the FBI investigates the origins of anthrax, which we're already
a war with Saddam for hitting us with anthrax.
And after a year, the FBI determines this was Ames anthrax, highly sophisticated weaponized
Ames anthrax, I could only have come from Fort Detroit.
How do you like to know?
Oh, it was.
It was somebody associated with Fort Detroit, either me, the Army or the CIA.
Inside job. Right. the war teacher was either me, the Army or the CIA.
You were a side job.
Right, wasn't to be.
Yeah, so far.
I've got the Patriot Act.
So now they've reopened the arms race.
The White Weapons Arms Race because now Americans, but the Pentagon is worried about launching
on arms race because it is a death penalty.
And what if the Patriot Act turns out not to be legitimate,
right? Usually you can't override a treaty with a statutorily. That means trees and they can
be killed. Well, you can be hanged. Crack up the fence. Exactly. The Pentagon didn't want to
openly start a bio-weapons program, so they began funneling money about $2 billion a year to NIH, specifically to NIH ID. And they made Anthony Fauci the
lead developer, biosecurity developer, which means bio-weapons developer.
Starting to see where this is all ahead. And he then gets a 68% raise from the Pentagon.
this is all ahead. And he then gets a 68% raise from the Pentagon. And that's why he was the highest paid official in American history. He was getting $450,000 a year. The president gets $400,000.
So I think there's 2.3 million federal employees. He gets, he got paid more than any of them.
The reason was because the Pentagon had more than doubled his salary to give him responsibility
for bio-weapons development. Now, immediately he opens all these BSL-4 labs in Boston, Galveston,
all over the country, in North Carolina. And he pays for them out of this money. But then,
pays for them out of this money. But then in 2014, three of his bugs escaped.
High profile escapes.
They find leaks.
They found a small box that somebody had left in a unprotected
and a lab and a broken box.
And 300 scientists, top scientists in the country like Richard Ebert, send a
letter to Obama saying, you have to shut down Anthony Fauci because he's going to cause
a global pandemic.
And Obama declares more to him, shuts down 18 projects of Fauci's. And Fauci responds to that, is to move his operations to Wuhan.
And that's how we end up in Wuhan.
And to share the cutting edge technology
with Xi Shengli, and Ben Hu, and all these scientists
over there, Lin Fapang all these scientists over there, Lintha Pat, the scientists over there who were
ultimately responsible for developing the COVID-19,
the virus that caused COVID-19, almost 100% certainly.
Tell me about the Monsanto trial.
Monsanto, Monsanto's a company,
well, Monsanto was a company that I was fighting since I was young.
I mean, I met Rachel Carson at my house when I was a boy.
She had written the book, you know, up until then we, you know,
the pesticides and the pesticides were the heroes.
They had helped win the war against Hitler, you know, the pesticides and the pesticides are just with the heroes. They had helped win the war against Hitler, you know, by, you know, most deaths at that
time were from infectious diseases that were spread by insects.
BDT, it stopped malaria and it's tracks, et cetera, and some of the Japanese wars.
So they had won the war against, they had learned now,
they were gonna win the war against the bugs,
and we were gonna finally have abundant food,
pests would be eliminated, et cetera.
And everybody considered the hero until 1961.
Rachel Carson published this book that shows America,
and she was a beautiful, beautiful writer.
Her writing is like poetry.
She was a marine biologist who did not,
what was born in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,
never saw the ocean until she was 22 years old.
But she had this gift for conveying complex scientific concepts
to the public in lay language and beautiful,
poetic lay language.
So her book became a world record best on spring.
A first spring. And she basically showed the public that, you know, although on the outside,
it looked like Pes were being killed. We were all getting killed. And our pets were
getting killed. And the birds were going to disappear. And these Pes were actually,
you know, critical part of the food web for America's songbird population.
And that's why the title of the title song that's running is that the bird songs are
going to be extinguished.
She came under attack by Monsanto, which was the manufacturer of TT. It did the blueprint for the tobacco industry
and everything else.
How do you describe it?
How do you destroy this scientist?
They did everything.
They publicly, every time they referred to her,
they would call her a spencer,
which was the modern or the contemporary pejorative
that suggested lesbianism.
And so they went after her, she was dying of cancer.
And she never rose in a fenders on my uncle,
I'll point at a commission to study the book.
And the commission came back and completely vindicated her.
And everything went through everything.
She had three references for every factual assertion
of the book, because she knew she was gonna to be attacked. She was a very careful sign. My uncle
vindicated her and DDT ended up getting banned in 73. She inspired Earth Day in 73 and
73 DDT has been. Monsanto needs a new blockbuster flagship product. That time, somebody had invented glyphosate
as a tank to scale it, to get the corrosion and the calcification out, to spend the
rust from the inside of storage tanks.
And something happened,
I mean, there's a simplification of a long story,
but somebody throws this stuff out in the yard,
and they see all the grasses dead.
They say, oh, this could be a good herbicide.
And Monsanto's just a time,
Monsanto needed a new product.
So it gives this herbicide.
At the first
20 years it's applied by man from back back farm workers back back spray back. So they walk through the corn fields where they see the weed they spray give it a little jolt and it dies.
I don't have to bend over and pull it up. So it saves time. In 93 somebody sprays it on
In 93, somebody sprays it on a... This is, again, a simplification of the story.
Somebody sprays it on a weed that doesn't die.
And they realize that weed has a genetic immunity.
They remove the gene from that weed, they identify it, and they put it in a corn seed and now they've got a
They've got corn called round of reddy corn
Which is immune to
glyphosate
So now they can fire all the farm workers a
Fly an airplane one guy in an airplane over
Saturate the entire landscape with round up and everything green dies except the roundup ready corn. It becomes very, very cheap for the first couple of years
before the cause of start blowing it. And then would you still call it corn or is it a
new thing this round? Well, you can dispute the angels on that at the bed, but it is a GMO.
It's a GMO. It's a GMO. It's a GMO coin. It's an alien that lives on the coin.
Yeah.
And so then in 90,
and so it quickly gets 85,
captures 85% of the corn market in this country, 99%.
And there's all kinds of other problems that go along
with it, they own it, you know,
and they, you can't,
they won't give you seeds for and they, you can't, they
won't give you seeds for the next year, so you have the buy it from every year, and there's
all these losses. It's a nightmare for farmers, but they end up becoming, getting on that
gerbil wheel and not being able to get off. Then in nine, a one, they're, by now they have round up ready corn, round
round up ready soar, soy, I think barley, a bunch of other, so now everything's round
up ready, but not wheat.
Wheat is what you eat most of it, it's in your bread, your pasta, you know, your cereal,
all this stuff.
They round up ready, so they're on round up right away, but what they find is that if you spray round up on
the wheat right before harvest, it dries it out.
If there's a rain storm, a spring rain or an autumn rain, you won't get mold on it,
which mold is a huge drain on farm income. And so they read farmers. They tell all the farmers
start spraying it as a desiccant and they do it. Now what that means is that they've
around that almost all but probably 90% of the roundup that's ever been sold has been sold
between 2006 and now because that was the biggest years. But now
they're spreading it directly on food. Because it's right before harvest, this stuff is ready to go
to the mill before they were spreading it early in the season. And, you know, unweeds that,
until they couldn't catch up with the corn. And then you don't care about the weeds anymore,
right? Now, so most of it was getting washed off during the year.
Now, there's running a run on food,
and all of it's on that year.
You see this burst and, you know,
in gluten allergies and, you know,
aceliac disease.
When you say it washes off the food, where does it go?
Well, it goes into the soil,
and it destroys the soil biome, right?
Which is not good.
No, so anything.
So it's not good for anything that's decentralized.
In the short term, it destroys what it's destroying,
but in the long term, if you wash it off,
it destroys the soil.
It's destroyed by the sussas, whatever.
Which is the basis of the entire food web.
But it actually goes in our ground groundwater and eventually into our waterways.
Yeah, it has, it has, it doesn't have,
let me put it this way, and enduring half life.
So it's not like atrozen or PFOA's
that once they're in your water, they're yours.
Those are the forever chemicals.
Yeah.
Can you explain what forever chemicals are?
The forever chemicals are chemicals that, I mean, BFOA is the most notorious one.
I've litigated on that too.
They made a film about my lawsuit called Dark Waters with Mark Ruffalo on that suit.
But you know, your body cannot process them.
The molecules just are bio-acumulate
and they cause all kinds of problems in flu,
gluing a lot of them are endocrine disruptors,
but they're carcinogenic.
You know, the atro scene is the worst endocrine disruptor.
You know, it literally, you know,
there's this very famous experiment where this guy,
Dr. Tyler, I forget what his last name, but you can look at Google and he took 27 male frogs
and put them in aquariums with water that was contaminated with
adjuvant and levels that were below the EPA permissible rate for drinking
water.
This is water that could be in the drinking water supply.
Yeah, the EPA, there would be no trigger if up until that, the public water supply has
no duty to tell you that it's in there because it's not at a danger level.
Okay.
And what happened to the frogs? The 27 male frogs.
20 of them became sterile.
Seven of the males turned female
and were able to produce fertile eggs.
So, you know, it sounds incredible,
but all you have to do is just Google,
27 male frogs, the first name of the scientist is Tyler, I forget,
but anyway, it's a well-known science.
Well-known science.
Science, we've known about it for a long time, and it's a huge problem.
So, is that one of the things that you fought against?
Yeah, atrazine, yeah.
And who makes atrazine what's it used for?
For pharmaceutical company, but do you know what it was used for? Yeah, it's a
pesticide pesticide. Anyway, I'm with with Monsanto and you ask how do you
sort of break up the medical and I show complex and I can, you know, how do
you get decentralized medicine? Correct. If I'm present, I can do that.
And I know exactly how I'll tell you.
I'm very interested.
Well, what, what do you, first of all, I'm going to go to NIH to Bethesda, my first week
in there.
And I'm going to say them, NIH is a $42 billion budget.
It's giving that money to 56,000 scientists who are mainly universities
in the US.
They're getting this, and a lot of them are doing drug development.
The rest of them are mainly studying infectious disease in which there's a lot of money.
And they do gain a function.
So with infectious disease is not the big problem in this country.
Chronic disease is, we've gone from a chronic disease rate of 6% when my uncle's president.
11.8% 1986 to 54% wow 2006.
And then NIH stopped publishing that data.
So we don't know those data.
We don't know what it is.
We know it's a lot higher than 54.
Yeah.
It's probably 60.
I mean, one out of every seven kids,
Al is auto-meant disease.
Just think about this, this is what I said to you yesterday
about centralized medicine is if you look at it
just on a financial basis, the return on equity,
Bobby will tell you, we spend more money in this country
and we get the lowest return on equity for health.
Do you think we have, the budget for health is 4.3 trillion.
The military, including National Security, is 1.3 trillion.
So it is 4.3 trillion.
3.7 trillion goes to chronic disease, which was practically nothing, it's 22 times higher than what was being just
at the 1960 in relationship to GDP.
So, and, you know, we had during COVID,
this shows, you know, the impact of that,
we had during COVID, the highest death rate,
the body count in the world.
We had 16% of the COVID deaths.
We only have 4.2% of the global population.
I don't know why people are getting medals
and millions of awards.
Or a snowball prize.
Yeah, for, makes no sense.
Right, because we miss handled it.
We're rewarding shitheads.
Yeah, and part of that is because of mismanagement,
catastrophic mismanagement, and data chaos,
and all this stuff that went along with it.
But also we have the highest chronic disease burden in the world. And CDC said the average person
who died from COVID at 3.8 chronic disease. So they had obesity, diabetes, asthma, and something else,
right? And then some of them had eight or nine. So we're the sickest population,
and that makes us more of the,
these people are not dying of COVID.
They were dying, you know, they,
COVID pushed them off the cliff.
Yes.
So I'm gonna go over there,
and I'm gonna say, look,
we're gonna give infectious diseases a break,
and we're gonna find out what's causing
the chronic disease epidemic now.
All just rates have gone from one in 10,000
in my generation.
So men today, right now, of my generation, one in 10,000
of full blown autism, which means nonverbal, non-twilight
trained head banging, stimming, hand flapping,
toe walking, the stereotyping features a lot.
One in 10,000.
And my kid's generation is one in 34 children.
That breaks, that breaks every law of neo-darwinism and Darwinism.
So, and the, and so it's going back.
And so everything is completely backwards.
Congress said to EPA, tell us what year it started.
They didn't ask CDC.D.C.
They asked EPA.
EPA is a captive agency, but it's
captured by oil coal and pests, not by
pharma, because it doesn't regulate
pharma.
So it came back with a real science.
And it said, it's a red line 1989.
So 1989 also was the year that all of
these other crimes, many of the other
ones, food allergy suddenly appeared,
peanut allergy.
So what happened in 89?
What's in?
Okay, let me tell you what happened in 89.
Neurological disease, 80-D-H-D,
speech-related, language-like,
ticks, to-rescentrum, narcolepsy, ASD, autism,
autoimmune diseases,
rheumatoid arthritis suddenly exploded,
juvenile diabetes, I never saw as a kid,
suddenly exploded, loop is,
groans, all these weird diseases
that we never heard of suddenly, they're everywhere.
And then the allergic diseases,
like peanut allergies, food allergies,
eczema, you never heard of eczema as a kid, right?
Now every classroom is kids with eczema,
and all of these, you know, asthma exploded.
My brother had asthma, he was told by a doctor. He was told, they'll never be a cure for asthma because
it's so rare that nobody will ever study it. Well, that was one out of every eight black
kids in university. So, you know, and this 89 was the better year when all this stuff
starts happening.
And we know it's an environmental toxin
because genes don't cause epidemics.
Genes, they can provide the vulnerability.
Say that again.
Yeah.
Because you know what, that's what decentralized medicine
has been pounding the table about for 20 years.
Yeah.
And that's, see that's.
It's not genetic.
It's not genetic.
It can be a problem.
It's all vulnerability, but you need an environmental type.
Remember what I said to you, Brimman?
I said that the NIH spends their money
focusing on RNA and DNA when the real problem
is the mitochondrial DNA,
which is the environmental smoking gum.
Bobby just said it.
Loud and clear.
Yeah.
So there's a toxicologist, very famous to have the college
is called Phil Langerian, and his own downside
in New York, and I've used him on a lot of cases.
He shy of me because he knows vaccines is a, you know,
is a death trap for anybody with obvious prominence.
He won't go there, but he knows something happened in 89.
So he's done a bunch of papers that says, okay, what could it be?
There's a limited universe of things that, and you have to find a toxin.
It became ubiquitous that year.
So every demographic from Cubans and keep us came to, in you with the Alaska effected.
And then there's some other features that are interesting, which is it should be
a toxin effect, boys and a 41 ratio of neurological disorders, a 41 ratio to girls, right? Because
that's one of the features of this that boys are deeply impacted by all these neurological
injuries. And so he's come up with, I think, about 13 suspects. And, and, you know, I can't
tell you what all of them are, but PFOA is one of these follow the timeline, which are
flamert harden that was put in all of our furniture, childhood pajamas around that area.
Life has say, okay, which again, you know, around the early 90s, 93s,
when they developed Round of Reddicorn,
Adrenzine, Nianicotoid, Bestasides,
same timeline, cell phone, Wi-Fi, radiation.
Right.
That's the one that Uncle Jack,
highly favors from this list that I've been teaching about.
But there's a lot, I think it's actually
more teach-by-cute.
It's cute if our kids are far,
and they all operate on similar biological pathways,
which is the connectivity between neurons
that is, that dies when your immune system is stressed
and you have mitochondrial weaknesses.
And your immune system begins demanding energy and your body gives that
a presence of your brain and your brain particularly for a kid is the biggest
demander of energy. That's 20% of the cardiac output and children. The cardiac
output is even greater than it is in adults which is the reason why they go
through exorbitant growth because, humans are the silly talking primates
that aren't born with their brain fully developed
until they're 25 years old.
And then the vaccine schedule changed in 89.
So we went during this period,
we went from the three vaccines,
I got as a kid and you got to the 72th at our kids' got.
And 1989 was the big change here because 86 was when they passed the X-E&AQT
and immunized the country of companies from liabilities.
So suddenly these companies made a gold rush because here's a product that, number one,
the federal government pays for almost all the development costs.
Number two, the biggest cost to have remetties
in his downstream liabilities now,
that's just been eliminated.
Number three, there is no advertising and marketing costs
because the government is forcing 76 million kids to take it.
And number four, there's no safety testing.
So vaccines are immune from pre-licency safety testing,
the only medical product, because it's essentially a military product.
That's every single vaccine,
or it's just the understanding.
Yeah, there's not one of the 72 vaccines
that was ever tested,
pre-licenser,
including the one that we all just were forced to deal with.
That was the most as-testin one industry.
So, okay, you ask, how am I gonna fix this?
I'm gonna tell them,
first of all, we're going to do the real science. You know, I'm going to call in the journals and say,
you know, to the Justice Department and say, we're going to file racketeering since it's against you for
retracting these, you know, these funny rejections. Just so, you know, you know, who make Rico Stoucher,
right? Yeah. He's dad.
He's the one that brought it in.
And then, but also I'm gonna say we're gonna study chronic disease from now on and we're
gonna find out what's causing it.
So he's gonna fund Doug Wallace's research.
What is he saying?
He's gonna stop with the RNA DNA and let's go, let's start looking at other places.
So now you'll say, well, even if you find out for sure that a certain product is causal,
these companies are so powerful and their lobby at farm is the biggest lobbying companies
in the world.
And, you know, let's say if you find out that high-fructural scorn syrup is causing the obesity
epidemic, you know, why is it when my uncle is present 6% of American kids were obese?
Today 42% are obese and 75% are overweight. How did that happen? The kids just suddenly get lazy.
They're being poisoned. But you also understand, I've just gone into the huge industry in this
country. There's millions of farmers that are tied into it. There's an entire corn lobby.
There's one of the most powerful lobbies on Capitol Hill.
How do you fix that?
Here's how you fix it.
You do enough studies.
As the trial lawyers are going to be able to get into court, and they all start suing
them, and the government doesn't have to do anything.
It's just like we did with our life to say, when we sued on glyphosate, which everybody
said we couldn't do.
We had enough studies to get past the doubt, but hearing, which is the threshold.
And then we sued them, and we made it too expensive, and they removed it in all from gardening.
But glyphosate is still being used for other things.
Agriculture, we couldn't sue for agriculture because agricultural workers are exposed to so many pesticides.
No way to figure that.
It was impossible, but home gardeners, a lot of home gardeners, we represent 40,000.
And they all said the same thing.
I bought the glyphosate because it said save as aspirin.
It said it is safe.
And it said, you don't even have to wear moon suit.
You can go out and have the guy on the cover.
We show to the jury of the container
is in a Bermuda shirts and shorts,
spreading glyphosate.
So they were telling them, this is so safe.
You don't have to take any precautions.
And then we show they knew that it was causing
non-oxidants and foment all these people.
So they've removed it from there,
but we couldn't sue for food because, you know, because the agricultural workers have so
many co-variables. So it's still in the food? Yeah, it's still on the food. You could even be an
organic food or no? Well, we've found is that if you eat organic food that all the glyphosate is gone in 75 days from your body
Considering that you're in probably the most well thought of democratic family in the history of the country
Is it odd to be cast out by your party?
Well, I mean, I
I feel like I thought as hard as I could to stay within a Democratic party, but it
became clear that I was not going to be allowed to compete or to run.
And it was, you know, the DNC has in its charter that it's not, that it's supposed to be
neutral.
But what happened was, Rick, you remember in 2016, Debbie Wasman Schultz was a secretly helping
Hillary against Bernie.
And putting not only her finger, but her leg and a lot of other stuff on this scale to make
sure that Bernie couldn't win. And so, Cooper Bernie's supporters sued the DNC
after that election to say, hey, it says in your charter,
you're not allowed to do that.
This is like showing up at a football game
and the referees are wearing your opponents jerseys, right?
And you're not allowed to do that.
So, but the federal judge, they litigated that case.
The federal judge said, yeah, they did it, they fixed it, but they can do it. It's legal.
They're a private club, they can make up their own rules, they can change them when they want,
they don't have to pay them. They can run it anyway they want. It's a private club.
So, this time is really the first time where they've said, oh, there is no boundaries
to what we can get away with now. And so they came right out and they endured publicly
and doors pied and then they merged their campaigns. Biden and the DNC were indistinguishable.
They were operating out of the same office. They were, you know, DNC was fundraising
and they can break all the fundraising rules.
They're not bound by the rules.
I was a $6600 maximum.
They can get 700,000 from an individual
and basically give it right to Biden's campaign.
And so, you know, I was fighting this behemoth
and then they were changing the rules.
They changed the new Hampshire rules so that any photo I got in New Amjaro would count for a
present pie not for me.
And you know, the whole politicization of the, and the weaponization that we've seen
of the law enforcement agencies with them not giving me secret service protection, we're
seeing that on every level. The censorship that was being done of me
in cooperation with FBI and the CIA, the Zoll documented in Judge Doty, is 155 pages of
federal decision that's now in the Supreme Court. And so it really became impossible for me to run in the Democratic Party.
And then the media also, which is aligned, the media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, and New York
Times that are completely aligned with the DNC.
And there's a whole lot of Democrats who that's all they read.
And that's all they see.
And if you're living in that, if I was living in that information bubble, I would consider
myself a very disreputable, crazy person because they never allowed an unfiltered interview
with me on any of those outlets.
And it was all, you know, just mischaracterizations, what I said, or I supposedly said, and a stream of defamation, and I'm not complaining,
I'm just answering your question,
is this, you know, at some point it became impossible for me
to compete on those landscapes.
And so it was an obvious choice that I had to make.
And once I'm sure of a choice, I do it without a regret. you