TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #270: Better Understanding Monetary Reset with LaserHodl

Episode Date: September 3, 2021

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What is up, freaks? It's your boy, Marty Bent, here to introduce this episode of Tales from the Crypt. You guys really liked the first one that we dropped a month ago, so we decided to get back in the studio, the digital studio, to record another conversation about the Great Reset, the Great Demonetary Reset. Back with your boy, Laser Hodl. Big rip. Sorry it's a little late. I was supposed to get it out this morning, but the files, I don't worry. I already recorded these ads earlier, and somehow I lost them. So now I'm re-recording them. Thank you for sticking around.

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either we we certainly have at least one more to record which i'm excited for and i think you guys are excited for this episode so go enjoy it you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven. I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Probably should be. Probably should be. Well, hey there, freaks, it's your boy Marty Bent here to introduce all right what is up freaks welcome back to tales from the cryptid your boy marty bent here sitting down at noon on wednesday september 1st first of the month sitting back down with with the gentleman i think you you freaks are going to be happy

to hear from again here with laser hodl whose first episode and that we dropped a few weeks ago has really struck a nerve with a lot of people it's the most downloaded episode we've had in quite some time here at tales from the crypt and due to the response from everybody you heard that first episode laser reached down so let's do another one let's keep growing on this so here we are laser how are you hey to be back on the pod i wanted to thank the freaks the response i got that we got from the last pod was overwhelming um And the basic idea of zooming out and viewing the last two years through the lens of monetary reset has helped people break the fear spell so that they can start in their own lives and start raising the cost on tyranny. um so they could become expensive to tyranny and and uh we received tons of feedback tons of

questions and that's what provoked this follow-up we have a lot to touch on and i think um the plebs and the freaks are going to find it really interesting i do as well i do as well and a lot has happened since we we last spoke obviously we've had everything going on in afghanistan it's a pull out there um vaccination passports become more common booster shots become mandated the malthusian fear spells seem to be getting louder and more diverse if you will uh terrorism seems to be back on on the table um since we last spoke uh how should we start recap of the first episode and then going from there you have i was going and just thinking like a topic list half hour ago trying to write something down and then you hopped in our chat and you have

an extensive list of things to go through where should we start well i think let's do a small recap of the thesis so that we can catch people up to you know connect the first pod to this one and then we'll discuss all the things that have happened since because even though it's only been a handful of weeks um things are moving quickly and so we need to factor those events into the thesis and calibrate it and make sure that it's still properly honed so that we're acting correctly. And so what is the thesis that I laid out in the first pod? And I think it could be described as, well, you have the Malthusian elite, the people that defend money printing, taking advantage of this large debt cycle. You can call it a long cycle.

And what they're doing is they're creating a mass fear event in order to execute a controlled demolition of the current monetary order. They recognize that the debt cycle is going to turn over whether they do a controlled demolition or not, but doing a controlled demolition allows them to bring things down in such a way that gives them a leg up in monetary reset. meaning if i had a narrative for how i want the next long cycle to look i could go into monetary reset and point to the way that the current long cycle fell down and say you know huh um and and ideally i could go in unobstructed meaning i'm the only one with narrative in hand and of course that's what we see with the world economic forum with their great reset narrative they want to you You know, when the nation states of the monetary order of the world come together, they want to have the most momentum and oomph behind their narrative so that the world sort of agrees, okay, that's what the next long cycle is going to be based on.

And of course, for average people, for citizens, that's extremely uncomfortable because in monetary reset, we're all just cannon fodder, right? were all just um uh you know pieces on the board um and so that's kind of how i laid it out before and you know we ended on tying in the piece from china which is to say a lot of the great reset seems to be inspired you know it's not science fiction per se most of it is inspired but about the shape of the authoritarianism in China today, right? So China is a, from the citizen's point of view, it's kind of a social scoring communism. So in the front end, it's a social scoring communism,

which is to say the law is kind of your social score. that's kind of your god too um and in the back end it's kind of a um high-tech fascism what i mean by that is that the government's partnered with these various barons of industry these these uh companies in order to um drive and instrument um the the panopticon and so So that was the basic thesis. It was that, okay, it looks a lot like the governments of the West have joined arms to import the flavor of authoritarianism that China has to the rest of the West. Um, using COVID as a, um, a conduit, um, garbing it in, um, uh, social justice, right? So it's, it's, it's, it's a feel good version of, of China's panoptic totalitarianism. And of course, COVID is really critical because as the ABCs learned, trauma is the master key. If you want to change society, you need a trauma event that will trigger society to huddle under authority, huddle under the state and wait for directions.

And so trauma is acting as the master key in this critical moment as the debt cycle is turning over. And then of course, monetary reset is the door that they're unlocking. And so it was a mammoth of a pod, but that's where we ended. and many things to touch on here but i think uh with that lens again it was a new lens for me that to zoom out and obviously the conversations leading up to the recording that podcast like hey marty like stop focusing on esg zoom out look at the broader picture and since then viewing everything that's happened through that lens has been extremely helpful i mean just what was it Earlier this week, last week, Justin Trudeau coming and saying, we're going to respond, we're going to use the COVID response that we've employed here in Canada over the last 18 months and apply that to the climate crisis too. Everything we learned in COVID, we're going to use for climate, right? And you could translate that. The fear spell for COVID was so potent and so useful in alleviating us of societal norms that we're going to use a similar fear spell to continue our agenda through climate.

Yeah. And like having that zoomed out view of everything and seeing that now it's like you can see through the matrix. It's like, oh my gosh, they are. that brash they would think that people are dumb enough to think that you can apply the a virus spreading will come with the same responses that climate change so it literally doesn't make sense when you hear it at face value well it's everywhere too um so in in the U.S. at least, the CDC was able to declare a rent moratorium, right? And so people cheered that on because, well, great, I don't have to pay rent. And the question is, do they even have the authority to do that? And well, the courts didn't seem to. So far, they've allowed it to continue. And what's funny is now that they've done that is the new thing is the CDC is starting to weigh in on

gun violence to say, oh, there's a gun epidemic. So you can see a theme, which is to say, it was so useful to use COVID as a fear spell. We're going to apply the same formula, the same language even, to the next pillar on the agenda. And so Trudeau saying climate, the CDC saying gun violence. You start to get a picture of where this is going. Speaking on gun violence, you know, there's also, we can't really go forward without talking about Afghanistan too much Because there seems to be a very clever sleight of hand going on with narrative, which is to say that, well, to put it as frankly as I can, the source of –

know, there's a commonality between anti-maskers and a commonality between gun violence and a commonality between people who aren't willing to go along with these Malthusian fear spells. And that is, they're all white, according to this narrative. And of course, this is really concerning. If you zoom out even a little, what you can see is the security state seems to be wrapping up in Afghanistan and moving on to a new war. And that looks a little like a war on conservatives, but the proxy is just white people, because it's a very easy villain to create. And so we're seeing now CDC saying, oh, it's a gun epidemic. And this is the the, the, uh, agency that was able to make, um, you know, fiat rule during the pandemic in regards

to rent. So, um, that's concerning. You see the, um, ATF hire from the Biden admin is very concerning. Um, you see the narrative being pumped by ABC saying, um, uh, you know, be on the lookout out for people who think that the election was stolen or this demonization of all the characteristics of conservatives and then the proxy as let's just make this a white people thing. So, you know, the fear spell is seems to be evolving, graduating, moving forward to the next chapter.

And it's very vivid and apparent you follow um the narratives being espoused by the malthusian wizards themselves yeah i think where you just described they're like demonizing conservatives but using whiteness as a proxy from which to attack them so you don't come off as too partisan which is odd to think of in and of itself but again climate to seem at least to me climate seems like the next big one uh again we had trudeau uh with his comments within the last week uh you had the whatever they're called aoc rashida taleb and the other representatives that that are on the house finance committee urging the federal reserve to fix the climate via their monetary policy which

doesn't really make any sense and then now that we're talking about this too like which really makes me wonder like how coordinated is this is if you go back to like last summer i believe it was project veritas maybe it was even earlier this year uh where they caught that that cnn um producer who said yeah we're gonna go from trump in the election and covid to climate next climate it's the next the next focus of what we're going to lean into um what yeah what are your thoughts on that like the posturing from these different entities well i mean a lot hinges on who exactly you know where the what is the source of the narrative industrial complex and and um for me my best guess is that narrative industrial

complex and the ABCs are intrinsically linked and that they both are servants to those who defend the Cantillon effect, who defend printing, who reset money printing. So, you know, a very Very potent signal for this is why do all the nations of the West seem to be colluding in executing the Great Reset together? And to me, that just is a strong signal that indicates there's a center, there is a they, Or at least such strong incentives at, you know, gushing forward from the fountain of the Cantillon effect that it creates this concert of what appears to be collusion. And so narratives fit together really well in that they ensure that the people that would prevent the great reset from moving forward are made the enemy in the eyes of the society, in the eyes of the common person who's not really aware of what's going on. They're kind of in this hailstorm of trauma. Right. And so I think that's the goal is to ensure that that person, you know, the the the the soon to be surf, that that person knows who the enemy is and who to not imitate and who to avoid.

And if the time comes who to, you know, turn, you know, look the other way if they are made political collateral damage. Yeah, so sort of just conditioning people to recognize the other, which they're expected to attack as we transition to this monetary reset. I think so I mean and not to you know this this the would-be surf is not is having a rough time too because since we talked last time Israel updated their green pass program and what they're saying is is that okay you know you got your vaccine and you got your your second vaccine and we're the most vaccinated country in the world and you got your green pass that means that we gave you your rights back in this limited form where you can travel you know you can leave your house and you can go shopping um but now they're saying that uh after six months that green pass

expires and so you need to get a booster which is to say you know they are now on a permanent booster train and they need to take boosters every six months in order to keep their rights and who knows if that goes to four months right so it's already been dropped to five hasn't it and some recommendations and i've heard speculation that the the target is four times a year uh is what they want and of course this raises um a bunch of questions um which is you know a few that just come off the top of my mind is, um, how many boosters can one possibly take? You know, can, can you take three years of them? Can you take four, you know, how many boosters can a body take until, um, uh, there's, there's notable noticeable issues. And when you get the boosters, is it just

as dangerous as when you got the vaccine or, or, or do you actually become, does your body become used to the the type of side effects we see with people just getting the vaccine so of course there is a ton of questions which we don't have answers to of course it is an experiment and we only can speculate as to the long-term side effects but these people are are have wandered into essentially a medical kind of prison where you know there's either they continue taking these shots um or they are exiled basically well it's interesting on on multiple fronts so just observationally conversations i've had with good friends family members who got vaccinated got two doses and have heard it from three separate groups family friends and

work associates, three individuals separately saying, I thought I was doing my part. I got the vaccination. I got dose one, dose two. I will not be getting any boosters. I did my part. We were supposed to go back to normal. So there is this, at least with some, obviously this is anecdotal data, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a common thought between many people who vaccinated and just did it to to get back to work and get things back to normal they seem a little perturbed that now they're being forced to take another booster uh a booster and then potentially more down the line it doesn't sit well with at least some of the people that i've spoken with that have been vaccinated and then on top of that

like there's this like the people they whoever is coordinating this that will say big pharma know they can't even define whether or not it's like a booster shot or just like another part of vaccine therapy if you will just like the third part of the the vaccine like they're trying to on the go define whether this is a booster or part of the holistic covid vaccine if you will does it make sense yeah you could imagine the horror if you who said you know what i don't have enough fight in me to draw a line in the sand on the vaccine i'll just get it so society can move on with our you know move on with our lives and then to see and and witness that oh wait a second this is permanent and the boosters are whenever they say they are and then also to see

the data places like israel where it's the highest uptake of vaccines in the world and their cases are exploding and so not only exploding hitting all-time highs all-time highs going parabolic and so you know even if you were partially on board with the whole thing before you know you've got some hard questions and things that really don't add up and so i imagine there's a deep fear that's starting to seat in the uh the stomachs of many of the people who went along with this um and then you look to usa and canada and australia and they're also signaling boosters which um i wonder if that's a logistical error before you've rolled out the program and the green pass you're kind of telling people fyi uh it's temporary you get

your rights back temporarily i think that might be a logistical error and that it might cause more people to realize what's going on here and and be on the side of no no i'm not gonna go down that road yeah yeah well i mean it's an error that that started last year right with the trump administration we're gonna get the vaccine we're gonna get back to normal first it was two weeks i mean how much how many how many it's like checkpoints can people have put in front of them reached and then the checkpoint just moved further out before they're like all right what the hell's going on two weeks to flatten the curve uh we're gonna shut down the economy for six months until the vaccine gets here vaccines here all right two doses uh all right the efficacy

isn't as good as we thought boosters after that and i so that i think that logistical error was was put in motion well before um these boosters even became a thing would you agree with that yeah absolutely and you know in trump whether you want to believe he was in on all this or uh simply foolish and and stepped in you know stepped up to his knee in a pile of mud um he did give the whole grift, um, uh, validity and, and, and supporting in the lockdowns and, uh, operation orb speed. So making sure that these, uh, vaccine companies got immunity. Um, I, I think there's a strong signal that supports that he's actually not part of, it's not controlled opposition in that, if you had to rig an election in order to get him out, I think that that probably is enough

to suggest that he's not ideal or certainly not part of it, but he did seem to walk into the trap of the vaccines and the lockdowns. When I zoom out on Trump, I think the overwhelming utility of allowing Bitcoin to grow deeper roots within the financial community in the United States um is a massive net positive and um although i'm not like to forget the vaccine stuff um i think that that's he really you know played into that um but now after much red team blue team you know these sides fighting with each other for months now and demonization of the people who aren't going along with vaccines aren't wearing masks who are done. A study comes out of Israel that shows that natural immunity is stronger and not a little bit,

I think it's 1300%. So 13X more, you get 13X more durability in natural antibodies. And of course, that makes perfect sense. You know, our immune systems were developed over millions of years, Right. So it makes sense that as you come in contact with pathogens, that your body would be more able to deal with them the next go around, even if they were variants. That makes perfect logical sense. What is a surprise out of that is that the people that are taking vaccines seem to be less equipped to deal with the variants. And that suggests that we might be seeing some antibody deferred enhancement occurring, which is to say the vaccines might actually be accelerating the evolution of the virus. And of course, that's supremely concerning. And we've had evidence of this ADE phenomena happen with vaccines in the past, I believe,

RSV or something like that, another respiratory disease. They tried to create a vaccine for that for children and had a similar, the variants kept mutating and vaccinated children were more susceptible to the variants. And they weren't getting weaker, weaker over time. They were getting more virulent, which is a very scary situation to think about, especially if it is true in the case of these COVID vaccines, considering just how much of the planet has received the jab already at this point. And of course, it's still early. We can't say much for sure. And so you have to keep that posture. But the signals of ADE in vaccinated folks and the studies that suggest that it also becomes more valerian for unvaccinated folks, if that becomes a feedback loop that keeps playing out, of course, it's something to watch very closely. Um, uh, but if, but if you zoom out and you just take these signals in whole and you say, okay, um, the, the green pass countries that are, um, signaling that boosters are going to be required, regardless of the data that suggests that natural immunity is completely

sufficient. And then you have countries, Western countries, parroting that, that essentially suggesting that they'll be adopting similar programs. I think that that might backfire and that it might actually wake people up a little bit more. Part of the problem with the Great Reset is they need to roll out this program all over the world. But as they're doing so, people are getting glimpses and glances at data points that don't add up, and they're starting to get suspicious. So because you can't roll it out atomically in one single instance, you have to attack each country in a very tailored way that makes sense for that country. That means that these are happening at different points and in different countries. And so as long as you're awake, you're paying attention, you can see where they're making mistakes. You can see where there are problems. and you can see that they don't like people pointing this out too i mean just this week

we had alex berenson taken off of twitter for for highlighting what's going on in israel um particularly around the potential for ade of vaccinated individuals and and the superiority of natural immunity um it's there i mean she's ever in control of twitter doesn't want that information getting out there. Yeah, absolutely. The censorship is getting turned up. The truth is getting harder to grasp at. But the censorship in itself is a useful signal. You can keep an eye on it and understand how right people were. So if people sounding the alarm on various things about COVID are being silenced, well, that's a fairly good signal that they were over target. um and i think that that is probably net positive um because it helps more people who are on the

fence who have a kind of worried feeling in their stomach they're not they're questioning things it helps them realize uh how deep this goes yeah and then on top of that um it helps force people to do some of the things that you've been preaching which is basically unplug and make yourself sovereign from the system, these systems. And one way, one system to make yourself more sovereign from is these information communication systems, Twitter being one of them. So now that you force Alex Berenson off, now he can only post content at Substack,

which right now is posturing to respect free speech. It forces people to go consume content there. now that they're implementing Bitcoin payments on Substack as well but eventually that'll get pushed to I think Substack will censor and it'll just

force individuals like Alex Berenson to go to a stack that isn't Substack and OpenNode but maybe Ghost.org as a CMS that you can that you can host for yourself plus BTC pay server

so like they're people want this information so much that they're willing to follow it i know i've been reading and contributing to alex's sub stack since he got kicked off twitter um and then there again there's a lot of missteps from the individuals putting out these malthusian fear spells because they're essentially forcing people into uh tech that that will allow us to coordinate even even better um once things do really get hairy yeah it's almost like they're they're getting ahead of themselves in terms of being um elated with their own that they're committing tyranny that they don't actually have the lever for yet and so what that's doing is it's it's forcing um the signal

which the signal and especially in the context of the internet um the signal will find and so if you say, okay, well, you can't do this on Twitter. Well, you're going to end up on Substack. And if you go ring the founders of Substack and say, okay, well, you can't do this on Substack, then they're going to end up self-hosting. And if you go to the consortium on DNS and you say, okay, well, we need the ability to turn off domains. Well, then you're going to end up with a to centralize a name server, and et cetera, et cetera. You only serve to create an unstoppable internet for each choke point you go sensor.

And so, so long as there's adamant reporters and technologists who will not allow the signal to be squashed, then what will emerge from that is an unstoppable internet in the same way that we have unstoppable money with Bitcoin, you could imagine other parts of society being engineered such that there is no choke point, there is no central point of failure.

Part of what I think is happening with Twitter, and I know this from working in Silicon Valley, working in big tech for a decade plus is that, so Jack may be freedom minded. He might actually believe in the idea of an uncensorable social platform like Twitter. But in the same way that Bitcoin space has an immune reaction to scam artists who try and take advantage of politeness, the Bitcoin space has toxic maximalism, which is essentially toxicity to con artists, right? like reject the the the ploy of using politeness and just completely evict the actor um well in the same way the bitcoin space has that silicon valley has the inverse of that which is a sort of

safe space maximalism and so jack if he's freedom-minded he's surrounded by safe space maximalists. And founder or not, he wouldn't be able to create through consensus, just social consensus within his company, support for the idea that all speech of any sort should be unsensible. And so his only lever is to play the long game. It's to say, okay, and who knows who's actually applying pressure to Jack. It might be his own employees, as you see with Google and various other big companies where these woke employees basically band together to demand that their safe space maximalism is realized. Or it could even be someone in the ABCs, someone from the government with a gag order saying, actually, you need to do this. It's national security,

what have you and and the moral of the story is the the reason i think that that might be true is because what you would expect to see if that was true would be jack basically playing along going along with it and then reacting to it in a way that created an architecture that had no choke point that had no person to um to uh apply pressure to and i think that might be what we're seeing with jack i think we're seeing this is it sky blue blue sky there you go so i think we might be seeing him saying well look there's nothing wrong with me funding an engineering initiative that took the most critical part of twitter the data and put it out of our own hands and you know give users the inverse if they want to create their own safe space then give them filters and

controls they can make their own safe space but they can't um they can't submit others to their safe space and that's exactly his vision with with blue sky um so so i think that that viewpoint is a very that kind of approach is very salient it's very good you could imagine using that in all context in social media. But the thing I mean to point out here is that Jack might actually be freedom-minded. These companies might be freedom-minded, but that doesn't change if you have ABCs knocking on your door with court orders. And it doesn't change if your own employees are not freedom maximalists. They might be safe space maximalists, and they might be around you with pitchforks every day threatening to walk out. And so really, if we're at this point in history

where we're choosing either permanent, you know, kind of safe space imprisonment versus the signal finding a way, I think all these efforts will serve to create a path for the signal to get out. And I think that means decentralization. And so the example of Twitter, I think that applies everywhere. So long as there's people that care to guard the signal and ensure there's a way, safe harbor for ideas, then you will have this technology emerge. And it's up to us to self-select, to vote with our feet digitally and say, you know what, I'm going to opt out of the safe space maximalism and move towards freedom maximalism. yeah no i agree i think the description of of jack being a freedom lover and signaling that via not only blue sky but what he's trying to do with bitcoin and square crypto and i think he has more control over square than he does twitter at this point and tries to espouse his his his penchant for to actually want freedom at the end of the day via these these products

whether it be the funding of the open source bitcoin hardware wallet the open source defi platform they're looking to build the funding of open source devs um and then spinning up blue sky as well and anything that's signaling i think if you understand the history of twitter particularly how activist investors really control that board and have controlled the company for some time now i think he uses those mechanisms to signal like hey i get i get why everybody's pissed to me and i i mean obviously disclaimer square is the sponsor of the podcast and um have had jack on i've talked to jack in the past but like i i think even with all that being said like objectively looking at this personally separating myself from those relationships like i think what you just

described is probably true yeah i mean look i i like jack we worked in the same town in the same industry and and but i i have plenty of of issues with with jack and twitter and square um but i i recognize the environment it's it's not it's not nearly enough it's to bring your ideal ideology in battle with um a majority that it has opposite shaped ideology um it's better to be um cunning it's better to think long term and say okay well how could you know how could i place the how could i place us outside of both of our hands or no none of us can control it but still give the user control i i respect that and so um like i think my stances on jack is i i think i like long-term jack like what i what i believe long-term jack to be and then i see that short-term

jack has to make lots of concessions and and i i think the best i can do is say i i think i understand why that would be um you know you could you could take the same kind of view and apply it to a sailor and say, okay, my, my trust for Michael sailor, I think it's in long-term sailor. Like when I hear him talk about a Bitcoin and he fundamentally understands what it does for the individual, what it does for mankind. Um, and, and long-term sailor seems to always be on point. He resonates and, um, the Bitcoin space embraces him for that short-term sailor is mired in situation like we all are he's surrounded by not freedom maximalists he's surrounded by people that um that uh you know maybe they're safe space maximalists maybe they're at least they're

they're connected to government in such um a a partnership that you know whether they want to or not they're being um uh steered into the great reset and i say things like you know like like BlackRock, right? Larry Fink, certainly. And BlackRock acts on behalf of the Federal Reserve, making purchases with the money, purchasing real estate. You might, you know, one could look at that and argue that they're nationalizing housing, making everything government housing. They're doing that at the behest of the Federal Reserve. They're not acting alone. And BlackRock, of course, owns a huge chunk of uh tesla and they own a large chunk of micro strategy so you know you could take the same sort of thoughtful view of jack and say you know sailor might be ideologically

um true and long-term sailor is is steering things and in a freedom direction but short-term sailor is a he's amongst uh and and and fully within uh his environment just like jack and so i think that's probably the best way to approach um you know and it consequentially i think it's one of the reasons we sacrifice uh bitcoin is that we're unable to we're unable to handle um or separate thoughtful to the difference between long-term ambitions and ideology and then short-term constraints and reality right anyone who's in the real world has real success who has who has real influence in the real world is completely enveloped in constraints of the real world their network is of people of various ideologies and so i think if you want to judge them you judge

them by their hearts and and usually i mean in in my um view it's it's you judge them based on their long-term uh uh speaking and and that's the truest thing coming from their heart agreed and i think bringing up larry fink that's actually i'm happy that you did because that was another thing that happened between the first time i recorded and today and highlights exactly we just pointed out like focus on people's long-term views and larry fing came out and he wants to open up the u.s capital markets to institutional investors to start investing in publicly traded chinese companies on the chinese stock market like see what he wants to interconnect the united states and china's capital markets even even more aggressively

And that's something that he came out and said within the last few weeks and I think highlights where his goal is long term sort of. Yeah, Larry Fink is part of the World Economic Forum. So he attends and has gone through the thought exercises and the brainstorming and the practices for the fourth industrial revolution, which is essentially what the Great Reset tries to unlock. And it's very much a safe space maximalism society. And he's on record, video even, saying that big monies, large corporations, they don't want free markets. They want totalitarianism. They want order as provided by the government, financial order. and um so yeah this gets it starts to give you a sense of what he's after what what his long-term thinking is and so um of course that makes people question because okay if black rock you know has big chunks of of tesla does that describe a little bit of what we see with how elon has acted right is is fink in the boardroom telling musk hey this is what's coming down the pipeline and you know esgs are coming and so we should maybe act in this way for a bit and is the same true with

sailors think in the boardroom with sailors saying hey this is coming down the pipeline why don't you spring this on the bitcoin space as if it was your idea um it's hard to say what i all i can do is is judge intent by long-term thinking long-term speaking and and place their hearts um based on that and and so um it might in my mind you have like a jack and a sailor are both pure long-term thinking they're they're truth-minded they're freedom-minded and that that was my read but they're in a real you know in an environment in a community in an industry um of a majority um of people who are you know it might be tongue-in-cheek to say their status But they're very state-minded. They enjoy the structure that the state gives them and the privilege the state sort of awards them. And they certainly buy into kind of the safe space maximalism that it's, no, we don't want dangerous freedom. We want safe structure, right?

uh not ambiguity but uncertainty we just want certain i think we talked about last in the first episode like people just begging for for stability and certainty of how things uh are going to be structured and how how one should act within a certain circumstance and system now in the last uh pod i i described the overton window as saying you know hey sailor can't come within 100 yards of the overton window and um i actually have to correct the definition of that um what's within the overton window is not politically incorrect like i suggested in the last pod actually what's inside the overton window is all the range of topics that are politically correct um and so what i should have said is sailor is in his

professional capacity, certainly confined to staying within the Overton window, and he cannot leave it. And so I should inverse the way that I speak about that, and I'll do that from now. In fact, part of the reason the Overton window is so critical is it's a very important thing to measure when you put forward a thesis, because if you are outside of the Overton window, you're politically incorrect. Your thesis can be discredited easily. People can set you aside as a political dissident or even extremist. Paranoid. Yeah, paranoid. And so if you're an academic and intellectual and your goal is to have a maximize the effect of your thesis then what you want to do is stay within the open window but of course you want to use precise

speech and thoughtful discussion to expand it so that people's horizons are expanded they can consider more within the context of what is viable what is reality and so that's why I'm careful to, for example, keep most of the thesis secular. Of course, I'm a Christian. I'm a new Christian. I was atheist before I went down the rabbit hole, but I recognize that if I want to maximize the efficacy of the thesis, then I should keep it grounded in secularism. Now, that being said, of course, I can connect it to Christianity because I think when you get deeper into questions as to why things are happening, that's where you start grasping at straws. But I view that as an aside conversation. I don't view it as part of the thesis. And

I think who perfectly illustrates the Overton window being used is a character like an Alex Jones. So Alex Jones says a lot of things that ends up being true. And that gives him a large cult following of people who say he's always right because he has a thesis that seems to be hitting the mark over and over. People have that joke about the tip jar or the Alex Jones jar that's overflowing because you put a coin in there every time he's right. Now there's a problem with Alex and the people that follow him and you could even say Q is part of this or even Trumpers to some extent. What happens when you become too strident of a follower of these movements is you garb yourself in the costume of someone who is outside of the Overton window

And so you've painted yourself as someone who no longer has credibility in the general conversation of society. yeah no i i think i mean i experienced this myself uh last week on the way to the airport and got an uber ride um and the driver a funny man from delco right outside of philadelphia he had to be in his late 50s early 60s around retirement age and he was trying to quote quote awaken me uh making me aware of all the the q theories and stuff like that which i've obviously uh following the topics that i do and and trying to stay on top of all the narratives that are going around obviously know what's going on um or at least understand part of the um the themes of the q movement and what some of the promises of that movement are and just hearing

i played dumb during the whole ride it was an hour 20 minute ride to the airport and it was literally him just trying to quote unquote awaken me and just listening to it was like you're directionally right but you sound crazy he was like in three weeks the internet's going to be shut off uh the power grids are going to go down and then they're going to go off for 48 hours they're going to turn back on we're going to have these tesla coils and a new like 5g internet that new order that gold back currency too i was like oh my gosh dude like that pushing people that far away from the overton window it's dilutes like like exactly what you're trying to explain it's much more effective to play within the overton window

and just be very careful and succinct with with what you point out well and and not to say that those those views those theses don't have merit in fact the reason that they're attractive and alluring is that um there's they're based on hordes of truth and they have tons of merit and and the thesis in many respects not all and there's some in glaring uh outside uh outside points, but in many respects, they're grounded in merit. And, and so you could zoom out and say, well, could those actually be used to get folks to opt out of any political discourse themselves or to self-identify as someone that we need to discredit or target or persecute and and you know i've heard views that in alex jones or aq is is essentially

feed feed an audience enough truth and hope but then push them outside the overton window slow roll them so that they spread their fear and anger over a long period of time they expend it And obviously, I can't say. What I will say is that they tend to make strong ties into theism, which has a way of taking advantage of people's intellectual faculties. Because it starts making them think in certainties and very hot emotions, and it helps them remove themselves from their own rational mind. And so I think, you know, I could see how identifying or roping people in really does work to disenfranchise any credibility. um and at the same time um you know if you're telling a lot of truths you're you're also making those truth you're pushing those truths outside the overton window as well right because now if you um say something that was brought up in one of those theses well that's already been radicalized

right? So how could we discuss that now? Right? Yeah, yeah. It's like a death by 1000 cuts to an extent, right? Demoralization. Now, for me, what's more important than what they're saying, because I think they're saying interesting things is what they're not saying. You know, a lot of these things, they, they fixate on vaccine origins and, and what the vaccine is going to do. And it makes me wonder if they're mostly doing that to keep you distracted while other things are happening. I don't hear a lot about the great reset and I don't hear a lot about monetary reset. I don't hear a lot about China. We talked to BlackRock just a little bit And China comes up. If you look at Moderna, you see that their board has a not insignificant representation from China, CCP. And so these ties, they come up if you start looking at what's happening with any amount of scrutiny at all.

In fact, you could look at the whole thing and say, you know, why is the West going along with the Great Reset? Why are they importing China's, you know, strain variant of authoritarianism to the West with COVID as the conduit? What's in it for China? And, you know, you might zoom out and say, okay, well, the West is getting China's level of totalitarianism exertion on their own population, and the West is giving China the world, in the sense the West is giving China hegemony of the next long cycle. And I think that thesis has a good amount of weight. If you think of authoritarianism as a field instead of these labels of communism, fascism, if you think of it as a single field with academics and theorists and experiments, then you could actually zoom out and view, you know, you could say something like, okay, if World War II was a world war that experimented with fascism and communism, what did they learn? And I think they learned in Soviet Russia, if the government takes over the means of production, it can't actually handle all the industries efficiently. And so it's a bad idea to try and take over the means of production to centralize that. You need, because what will happen is you'll end up being completely poor, and you'll just have to export your raw resources. So whatever raw resources you have, maybe it's ore, maybe it's oil, maybe it's, you know, what have you, and then you import everything you need to feed your country. And so that ends bad if you, even wealthy countries like Venezuela who tried to do that, like it ends, it's a very, it doesn't work, it's bad.

But what works with communism is it's very intoxicating to the people. They really, it really works to get people to think that way is like it's a people's government, it's a people's society. So that it really works on the surf, that academia. You look at Germany. They had huge success with fascism, which is to say the government partnered with – and they worked together to operate the country. The government basically awards these cronyists forever monopolies. So it says, okay, you have this industry. You don't have to compete. And the industry titans do whatever the government needs. And so I think authoritarian academia realized, OK, the next version of authoritarianism, we need to, in the back end, adopt this fascism where the government partners, it doesn't take over. And in the front end, we need this communist kind of thing. And so you can look at China and say, well, what do they have? They have in the back end, it's high tech fascism.

And in the front end, it's social scoring communism. And that's like the beast. This is the cutting edge academia of authoritarianism in practice. And so that seems to be what's being imported to the West. And the reason I'm tying this into the Overton window and Alex Jones and BlackRock is that depending on if you're viewing things rationally, you can look at this last event with the United States leaving Afghanistan in a handful of ways. um you could look at it as saying um okay this is a way for us to um rile up another forever war right we leave in a terrible way and then the the military industrial complex uh it creates all this sympathy and empathy and desire to go back and fix things okay but i think that might be too simplistic. If you zoom out, what you might actually wonder is, in order for the Great Reset

and the West included to pass the torch to China as the next hegemon, what has to happen? And I think what has to happen is the U.S. has to be removed. Dollar hegemony has to be seeded in order to make way. And so you might say, okay, how do you seed dollar hegemony? And that is a complex question, but if you start to get your arms around it, I think you'll come up with some basic things, which is to say, we need to eliminate energy independence. We need to make it really hard to settle trade, we need to hand the Middle East to China because the whole reason the U.S. invented the Taliban and went into the Middle East was to check China in terms of force as a neighbor and prop up U.S. hegemony and obviously all the rich resources there.

So if you look at it from the point of view of the Great Reset, you might zoom out and say, oh, what's actually happening is, or is what actually is happening is, is Biden, is his final task to basically hand China, the Middle East, disgrace the image of the United States in the eyes of the international community, such that it creates a foundation where they can start discussing moving on to a new superpower, moving away from the dollar, moving into some new system. And I think that that's probably closer to the reality. It's a seeding of U.S. hegemony. And so this is why it's so critical to be zoomed out to be thinking in terms of monetary reset yeah i mean especially when you consider and zooming in a little bit leading up to the election and the drama around hunter biden and potential collusion with the chinese state on behalf of his father and the way in which

we pulled out of afghanistan abruptly which again i think many people wanted to get out of afghanistan they're just shocked at how incompetent and how terrible the u.s military which is supposed to be the strongest military in the world looked uh throughout the whole process and and then you consider the fact that china and russia uh i don't know if we even want to bring russia into this but they were the only two countries that didn't sign uh basically a an agreement to not work directly with the taliban and they're there shaking hands and having meetings and the only two embassies in kabul after the u.s left is china and russia and the dollar is backed by the full faith in the strength globally in the united states military right and

so when you disgrace the united states military in the international community what happens to the faith and the dollar? What happens to treasury purchases? What happens to the discussions going into monetary reset about who is going to be the superpower in the next long cycle? Is the torch on terrorism being handed to China? Is that kind of what's going on? And therefore, the Middle East is being handed um you know you look at the way we left it was it was this very shooting from the hip like okay trump made the promise and i'm keeping it but but certainly um if the goal was to disgrace the u.s well then mission accomplished in so many ways was it sloppy and on purpose and intentional this abandonment um and now you know for me the strongest signal is um you can look at

the narratives coming out of the Malthusian wizards. And you could see that they're all beating the drum of what a disgrace this is for the United States, right? Oh, this completely decimates the reputation of the US. And so that's coming out of all the globalist NGOs, the globalist news media. It's coming out of the progressives, certainly on the left, But shocker, it's coming from Republicans too. They're all chiming, they're all singing the same song. And so when that happens, they all want us to believe that what this was, was a gaffe, a just misstep. and they all want us to feel that shame of that, oh, I guess we're not the superpower anymore. And that sets you up so that the next conversation of,

okay, we're going to pivot into maybe the IMF and some new structure, new bucket that they're setting up in the world order will be, maybe central bank digital currencies will be backed by SDRs, which are themselves a bucket of these things. And that starts to describe, paint a picture of the actual mechanism of reset because it always is different. You know, it's not always Bretton Woods where it's just people they meet and they negotiate and, OK, here's the shape of it.

You know, it might be that there's a couple pillars, there's a couple tools that they use to rotate the world off of the old monetary order and into the new monetary order. I know that the IMF members voted that the IMF no longer is constrained in their printing of SDRs. So they're able to essentially print the currencies of their members at will now. And so you see kind of the center of gravity for money printing, leaving the dollar and moving towards the IMF already. I know that they're using vaccines as a proxy for getting SDR on the balance sheets of member countries. So you can say, hey, we need vaccines, give us a bunch of these SDRs, and then I can convert

them to any currency of a member country, which eliminates the U.S. currency exchange system and replaces it with the IMF system. I think there's one more piece missing. There needs to be some facility that allows the euro dollar to be phased out to swap out U.S. debt for some IMF-based element. And so I'm on the lookout for that, but I'm starting to think these are the three pieces, the three tools that'll be used to transition countries away from the dollar and into a global,

a new sort of central global monetary system. And so you might ask, like, how does that make China And I think it's as simple as they would just represent the largest ownership, largest membership of that system. And that would be explained away by them taking a large stance in the international community in terms of the responsibilities of taking the torch on terrorism and securing these trade deals and Belt and Road. And when you add that to what you see with like BlackRock saying, hey, we're going to start looking in that direction for investment, you take this chorus of signals together and it starts to look a little like the international community already knows what's coming. They're trying to slow roll us into that. And that makes you wonder, is Biden doing the dirty work, the hard work of seeding dollar hegemony, making way for a new superpower? I mean it seems pretty obvious to me at least like it's hard to believe particularly with Afghanistan that we're that incompetent right and this is something I said yesterday on the show and you've alluded to too like the monetary debasement particularly hyper hyperinflationary

effects are driven two parts obviously one being the actual expansion of the monetary base via the printing of more monetary units and then two it's a social aspect of it do you have trust in the ability of those individuals in control of the monetary system to be able to competently facilitate the the distribution and control of of that monetary system and it seems like last few i mean the last 18 months really with all the printing and then on top of that the the debacles of the whole covid response the lockdowns and then what's going on in afghanistan is leading many people to believe that they are not competent or able to run this monetary system and it does seem very well-coordinated to an extent

if you're paying attention to everything you just mentioned. China replaced the U.S. in the Middle East. Larry Fink posturing like we're going to begin investing more heavily in China and other things. What I am curious is even with the Belt and Road, there's a lot of people who report back from what's going on in Africa, specifically and like china obviously belton road is just injecting numerous immense amounts of capital into developing nations and attempting to build out infrastructure for them to

basically carry favor um and and control um but there's they're not good at what they're trying to do particularly from like an infrastructure perspective like they don't actually build good things and like does that sloppiness also help the fight that we're fighting which is trying to point individuals towards a more sovereign way of living in the digital age well yeah i agree they're not they're not very good and i think that might be where the west comes in i think the west is like we can bring that to the table open these markets to us and we'll bring you know a new internationally minded west that includes friendliness to these countries in a way that and access to these countries in a way that we haven't happened had before um so i think

that by itself could explain uh where the productivity is going to come from uh so i i think that's real and and but at the same time and and also certainly um if your goal is to launch a a global uh you know a type of new high-tech politically correct global communism amongst these smart these large cities you need a very large base of serfs and so these developing countries give you that um they're unsophisticated poor countries that you can basically um groom into being uh serfs and so i think that it gives you that but i but i also think a lot of what's happening is um and this i see this in the bitcoin space too there's a fear that it's it's physically we're physically being forced into this and and i think that that's in

our heads i think most of it is coercement and um you know even in the world economic forums materials themselves they recognize that that uh they're gonna have to uh condition their own serfs to be fearful of the people that didn't go along with all this, who basically left the cities and formed their own self-sufficient societies. And so I think that that's a tell. It's a tell that if you opted out at every layer that you're being coerced, you can simply go start the free towns, the free villages, the free areas, band together and, you know, start building an unstoppable peaceful society um and that through that action of doing what's best for yourself um that a a decentralized revolution you know of the type that has never existed will emerge

it's sort of the slow emergence of a society with uh asynchronous or asymmetric defenses at every critical point so in the money asymmetric defense in the tech and how you communicate with each other um so so i i think that the sloppiness works in favor of um intellectual freedom-minded capitalists who simply aren't going to be led into serfdom who will opt out and because of that i think you're going to end up with um brilliant free areas with exciting capitalism and flourishing and that should also serve to wake up um people who maybe felt helpless who are maybe wandering into this thing and and realize that they actually have more control than they thought they did yeah it's a choice i mean you are not being physically coerced you're being mentally nudged

that concept of the nudging state just slowly intellectually pushes you in one direction or another and then you wake up in that that mental prison which may have also put you in a physical open-air prison as well um you have to give that yeah you have to give a hat tip to the formula of malthusian fear spells i mean that the efficacy like they're extremely potent and they work and it's you can use that formula over and over in all these different contexts and you you might look at like the the afghanistan thing and say that's a mouth it's in fear spell in itself you you basically can create the fear that the u.s is no longer fit to secure the world right oh and so the old way doesn't work anymore it's time to come up with a new way and

And so what's the new way? Oh, it's this global coalition of countries, these great reset countries are going to come together to establish a new order. And that's the new way that will restore trust, right? It'll restore trust and China will, as the largest superpower, who's leaning into green, who's leaning into, who's, you know, negotiating with the Taliban, they will take the torch. And so that's a Malthusian fear spell. You could take COVID and say, okay, so COVID is this mass trauma event, and we're all terrified, and it involves all of us. One nation can't solve it, so we all need to come together, because the old way doesn't work anymore. A new way has to be established. And that is a global coalition of medical cooperation. And so we're all going to erase previous norms and sort of lean into this new way of living, this new normal. That's a Malthusian fear spell. You could say, okay, the old way of producing carbon in all these capacities is hurtling us all towards a climate change crisis. And a single nation can't solve that. It's a problem for all of us, a fear, a trauma event for the whole world. And so we need to, the old way doesn't work anymore. So we need to come together as a society, you know, the whole world needs to come together to erase previous norms and lean into a new way of living. That's a Malthusian fear spell. They all take this shape and they all follow the wisdom that the ABCs learned, which is you can use trauma as a master key and you can use debt cycles, monetary reset as the door in order to reshape society. And so you have Afghanistan, and you have COVID, and you have climate, but there are more, right? Terrorism is also a Malthusian fear spell. Suddenly, the towers come down, so ABC saw to that, and then you have the mainstream media blitz, And suddenly we all have the new problem to be fearful of, a problem that extended beyond what a single nation state can solve.

And so the old norms of being able to travel with privacy and dignity have to be wiped clear so that we could all come together with passports and x-rays and dragnet surveillance to create a new way of living to deal with this. And so, and you could say firearms are like that too. It's okay, there's an epidemic of mass shootings and the same thing over and over. It's extremely potent. In fact, some people on Twitter have impressed me by saying, hey, is there an alien's Malthusian fear spell being seeded, being prepared? and i think it's that they recognize it has the same rhythm they say okay if you wanted to do an alien a ufo um althusian fear spell you could create a fear over time and eventually have some type of psyop a trauma event where countries kind of woke up to the reality that they needed to band together right and the old way didn't work anymore and we needed to reset norms and create a new way of living um i'm just gonna say yes it's it's incredible that people are waking up to these themes and sort of noticing patterns and trying to call things

out before they happen i would argue uh cyber attacks are another example of that um in recent years where they sort of postured about them postured about them you know the world economic for them with their cyber contagion and then obviously this year it's become more prominent in the news and a bigger theme in the world but like again i can go back to terrorism specifically this is something i wrote about and i've tweeted about since the afghanistan debacle has unfolded over the last few weeks like do you think people are going to wake up and call bullshit like hey you passed the patriot act you eroded our civil liberties we have to walk through the tsa and have mouth breathers like pat us down uh we have to take our shoes off do this very dehumanizing

process every time we go to travel in an airport it just doesn't apply to trains or planes or excuse me or trains or automobiles but for some reason when we get on a flight we have to do this stuff and the whole justification for the tsa and the erosion of our civil liberties outside of the airports constantly surveilled um privacy has been given a negative connotation because if you're hiding something you're likely a terrorist and again everything justified under the guise of terrorism and trying to protect individual citizens from terrorists and yet fast forward 20 years leaving afghanistan you leave 85 billion dollars worth of weapons and equipment in the like all for nothing you know and it's even deeper i mean um you know snowden and and

dragnet surveillance those revelations and and um the fact that we had you had privacy of your you know what happened in your house was private what you did in your personal life was private and as a american citizen you felt empowered and that was we all had that and that was wiped clean And suddenly, all of your communications in your personal life could be indexed with Dragnet surveillance so that they could look at it at any time. And at first, they would use it for investigation. So, okay, an event happened, we need to scour all this troves of data in order to connect the dots. But then, and funny enough, this actually started the advent. It was the first program of pre-crime, which is very similar to what China does with social scoring, by the way, but it introduced the West to pre-crime to where now you can say, okay, well, if we can use this to investigate things after the fact and try and figure out who did what, could we use all people's personal data, personal details? their thoughts, their communications. Can we use machine learning and AI? And can we start to predict, predict what people do? And, and, and that's really important. Especially when you consider the label of just terror, you know, if you are a terrorist, it allows extra legal

treatment. So suddenly, none of the old norms apply, you get special, you have a special legal system for you. And so when you have pre-crime and terrorism together, it's almost like you were able to completely sidestep the constitution and the judiciary. And, you know, when you hold that in your left hand and your right hand, you have the security state kind of moving on from the Middle East and moving, you know, back home to focus on American citizens and conservatives and, and, you know, white, white rage or whatever the thing is, you know, of course that's very concerning because you have the precedent of, okay, all of your data is going to be used to judge you in the court of pre-crime. And if we find that you are pre-guilty, we have extra legal

system for you. And, and that of course is alarming to say the least. And it's one of the reasons I say that we need to opt out at every layer because to assert, you know, in a certain view, one could ask, listen, is, are you really a victim if you're letting someone into your life in all these areas, right? You know, if, how much sympathy should I have if your house gets ransacked and you had all your windows open and your door open? Now, what you should do is know that crime exists, lock fortify your house so that you could provide security to your family and the same is true in terms of what jurisdiction you live in if you live in a heavily blue jurisdiction with an activist judiciary you're probably not going to get justice you know you see these judges

taking people you know sacrificing custody for one parent because they haven't had the jab, right? And they haven't gotten their vaccine. So, okay, they're not fit to be a parent. And it's like, I could guess that that's in an activist judiciary in a blue area. So, you know, are you a victim if you haven't voted with your feet? And the same is true of your digital life. If you can be brought up in the court of pre-crime at any time arbitrarily by politically motivated super police, are you a victim if you allow all your chat, all your emails all the discussions between your loved ones um you allow your computers and your phones all to be eavesdropped on as if you don't have a choice and the reality is you do have a

choice you can simply shut the windows and lock the door you can you can show them the door and say you know uh it's been nice having you but but uh we're all done not living private lives we're all done living out in the open and so um to a to a certain degree you know the terrorism thing is it allowed for pre the start of pre-crime but it also allowed for movement passes between countries and one could look at covid and say oh wow covid is a way to extend those movement passes into your own neighborhood so now not only do you need a movement pass between countries you need a movement pass um to you know go down the street and you can use the dragnet surveillance for um terrorism but they can use it to make sure that you're not hosting a party this weekend

with some um you know some unvaccinated people who are super spreaders and you could even look at like what we see in australia they had this large expose on this you know the nation's most wanted man. It was a man who didn't take his shot. And he's, you know, out in public, you know, the gravest danger to society. And so he was characterized as this enemy number one in front of the nation. And then he got extra legal treatment. You could say, wow, are they pivoting the extra legal treatment of terrorism into COVID enemies? And doesn't that mean they can just apply that to anything arbitrarily. And I think so long as they have a potent Malthusian fear spell, then the answer would be yes, right? Can you imagine, um, enemies, uh, nation's most

wanted, um, uh, gas guzzler who, who's been running his, his, um, oil, you know, his diesel generator while everyone else has been, uh, uh, rationing like good citizens. So, you know, where, where does this end and and um you know it's it's not hard to to start to draw the parallels between these things and and and feel a sense of um uh like the walls are coming in and and and this this sort of you know are there any laws anymore if if you have these super police and and extra legal treatment and pre-crime like what constitutes breaking the law or not is it just if you you know it's almost like narrative is replacing law if you break the narrative you are now a criminal a hundred percent like we see this with like the petty crime in places like san

francisco even austin texas where i'm moving and walk into a cvs and as long as you steal less than something like nine hundred dollars worth of goods you can walk out and you're not going to get arrested it's right and of course and of course the um the malthusian fear spell of racism is because you're abiding by that or breaking it, right? Because there needs to be an oppressor-oppressed class hierarchy in order to capture that whole segment of society, which is sensitive to the idea that there is injustice in the forms of haves and haves not. So you can capture them with that mouth-using fear spell, and then you can see that that's manifest in these weird ways such as oh okay well now stealing's okay and um it's it's um or if you're in the

wrong place you get this legal treatment if you're in a blue area if you're in a red area you might get this legal treatment yeah you're stealing from cvs they're they're a very well-off organization a very well-off corporation this this man's homeless let him take the 850 worth of goods just walk out with it i'm like right or you know the black lives matter and antifa treatment where there was seemed to be a very large dichotomy between the treatment of that um that behavior um over 2020 the riots what have you and all the unrest and and uh versus the treatment of the behavior of conservatives who in their mind are doing political speech and activism in the name of protecting um the constitution etc etc so you know if you look at that without the framing

of monetary reset and the framing of malthusian fear spells it's easy to basically because you just see the injustice in the contrast between the two but when you look at it um properly uh through the right frame you see that oh actually that makes perfect sense yeah and yet i mean you mentioned australia it's happening in new zealand too like that man sneezing in an elevator is enemy number one they're creating these others and it's scary i mean so i mean going further than the list that we have here like like well and and i i need to touch on that too so that that is um a theme in all the dystopian uh science fictions which is to say um you're in a society of omnipresent surveillance and

there and in digital id and real-time checkpoints everywhere you go and there are super police who basically um use social scoring and these different malthusian fear spells to make enemy number ones And then they broadcast them so everyone could see. And then, and so in that way, they're actually making an example of the behavior. And that's how they condition and that's how they discipline the society. And so, you know, you might look at the Australia stunt as like, okay, they're launching the sort of public discipline program by one, conditioning people to the fact that there's arbitrary law now. You no longer have due process. It's just arbitrary law. And two, that, you know, if you act that way, you're going to be enemy number one. You're going to be displayed. You're going to be pursued, hunted, et cetera. And, you know, it's science fiction, but it's also what they do in China. In China, they have the jaywalking stuff, right? What's that?

The jaywalking. Like if you jaywalk, your picture gets put up and you're made an example as a bad citizen. exactly so they have billboards that promote and commercials that that go on and on about model citizens all the luxuries and rewards they get for behaving and then they demonize and they make an example of and they use that to discipline the rest of the society the the dissidents and you know when i started talking about social scores i had some plebs say social scores already exist right we already have credit scores and social security and tech companies already surveil everything you do and NSA already does dragnet surveillance on all your your communications but the thing that they don't realize is that is all fragmented and

In technology, fragmentation is a very strong obstacle to performing higher and higher level controls on the data, especially when you want to merge the data, merge all those views into the type of view that would be required to centrally plan society or centrally control a population. And so the difference between the West and China is in China, they are converging quickly on formalizing and unifying the data set, such that they're eliminating fragmentation and doing so, it allows them to erect this type of society that we're discussing this type of dystopian society and the shape, you know, and so it's, it's the the shape of the um the thing to focus on is it's not just the social score in fact don't over don't fixate on the social score as a number what it really is is it's kind of a new society in cyberspace that permanently displaces the nation state with biometric identity um and then you use that to off against everything so you you know you log in for lack of a better word you log into your Gmail with your digital identity. You log into Twitter with your digital identity. You log in to pay your taxes with your digital identity. As you're walking down your street,

the omnipresent surveillance is recording everything, your behavior to that digital identity. So it's this society in cyberspace that displaces the nation state with digital identity-based single sign-on. And then based on all that data, they run an algorithm to calculate your score, right? And then they have these checkpoints everywhere in society, digital and physical. So physical checkpoint, oh, you can't move between neighborhoods or get on transportation because your score is too low. And digital, like, okay, you want to, you know, here are your permissions on Twitter because you are not a model citizen. So you need to be, your content needs to be pushed down. You need to be sort of pushed further away from the general citizenry. And of

course, the new thing, and this is happening in China, but also in the West, is taking all that and tying it to your money. So you have this digital currency, a kind of programmable surf money. And this eliminates the fragmentation problem. Suddenly, in the kind of high-tech fascism, they all have a ID to tie your behavior to, and it's the same ID. So they know for your person, everything should be expressed in terms of that digital identity. And this allows the state to join all this data together and create a master view of your human action. And then they can discipline, you know, raise you up or persecute you based on that behavior. yeah and it's

it's weird you're describing all this it's like i can't stop thinking about minority report which is wants me to lead to a question for you i don't know if you've thought about that like what is the deal with these sci-fi novella or just futuristic novels calling this stuff out so like minority port was written in 1954 adapted to a movie in 2002 obviously we have orwell's 1984 are these sci-fi novels are these these pieces of literature and in media in the form of movies are they trying to warn us by saying hey if you if you don't pay like pay attention like this cycle has repeated in some form or another in the past and will come to you in the future if you don't pay attention or are they trying to condition us to be okay with it can i say one more yeah i you

know that that's hard to say like so a good example in 1932 you know aldous huxley put out brave new world and that terrified readers it's this vision of a dystopian future grounded in high-tech totalitarian and um so was he was he fantasizing was he projecting thinking like this is what we could do or was he warning and and some folks say he was warning he was basically terrified himself when he connected the dots and and that's where the the story came from interestingly enough 12 years after he put out brave new world his brother julian huxley who is a he's a famous academic of eugenics and globalism. He produced the charter for the United Nations. It's called a book called UNESCO. And the parallels between Brave New World and United

Nations are terrifying in terms of the United Nations goals. And so, you know, did his brother take that dystopian book, Brave New World, and draw inspiration from it? It looks like it. What does that mean? Aldous was in favor or was he warning? It's hard to say. In a minority report, they're running a pre-crime pilot in Washington, D.C., and that pilot causes murder to completely be ameliorated. The murder rate goes to zero. And then an anomaly forces the chief of the pre-crime pilot to go underground and circumvent digital identity in order to learn or shine a light on the fact that the oracles they use to predict pre-crime, meaning um they're in order to eliminate crime the cost eliminate murder the cost is they have to eliminate uh innocent people as well right and you know uh in in fahrenheit uh fahrenheit what is this uh i forgot the name um fahrenheit 911 or four or no yeah four something i think i mean i'm at my computer yeah 451 that's right so yeah and in fahrenheit 451 another dystopian book um

so americans they they they basically rallied together to force the state to remove all offensive ideas and that leads to this type of totalitarian society but no history books no music no film and but there's a commonality between brave new world and minority report in in this society which is citizens are managed via ai and they're managed with this omnipresent surveillance and state media and digital identity and real-time checkpoints um and so that's that part's the same and and um uh that theme seems to be present over and over in these novellas but also in um movies as well um in the fifth element uh they're also in the context of a society where people live in pods and um uh this the the rules and laws of a society are mostly algorithmically

managed there's omnipresent surveillance there's digital identity um there's uh real-time checkpoints everywhere and in that movie they have to use they have to um get around digital id in order to save the world and so um multipass multipass that's right so so almost all of these dystopian um views of the future uh contain uh this kind of chinese high-tech authoritarianism right it has the it has the communism in the front the social score communism front and the high-tech fascism in the back it has the omnipresent surveillance it has the um the real-time checkpoints and it has the biometric digital id and and they all have this um and so i think part of what i think is happening is as technology started to um capture the imaginations of authors

and uh literates and people who are who futurists um i think they all started to converge on the idea that this technology is at first glance centralizing and as it the greater the technology in terms of functionality um the more sacrifice uh in terms of individual sovereignty and so i think that that if i had to say is like a default i would say they're mostly warnings i think they're mostly people who projected forward where technology was taking us and was terrified at the type of societies that you could get and they all had um very similar themes in terms of the controls that would really stifle the human spirit um in the book the giver there they live in a um a perfect commune with no uh suffering and no it's funny it's funny you bring the giver

up i was literally thinking of the giver yesterday there's a book i've been decades it's like i mean it's iconic and so they're in a commune with no suffering and no sadness and no fear and um but they also have no choice and no risk and very little meaning right because if you have none of those things and you know what is your life experience and um technology centralizes to such an extent and the state is elevated to such an extent that the the serfs within the giver commune don't even aren't even aware of birthing that's been centralized too and that's hidden away from them and of course in the end they they you know jonas the main character he makes off with a baby and goes off into the wild dangerous freedom of the wilderness and and he

becomes you know the type of hard man that the the communists warn their serfs about starts a you know a wild free society you know he regains that and um you know there's something about that which is intrinsic to communism which is you know communism is kind of this if fascism is this tyrannical father which is it's it's this uh forceful militaristic government that is is very um ruling by force and and ruling by this kind of proud strength then then communism is kind of this uh consuming mother it's this i'm going to rule you with safety i'm going to i'm going to eliminate all risk and and suffering and and fear and danger and safety and the the way that that will be um uh the way that that will destroy your soul is

because you won't have any choice left you won't have any ability to take a risk make a choice have your own you know you kind of you deserve risk you deserve um tragedy you deserve all these things that life offers such that you could have meaning. And that's where it comes from. And communism basically threatens to centralize so far that we are, you know, these docile farm animals, you know, who are, who have no fear in the world, but have very little meaning in the world. And so most of the dystopian novels seem to recognize that technology as a primitive um gravitates us towards um that direction until eventually um you've ceded individual autonomy to a central planning ai which which micro manages which smothers the human spirit

now of course all these dystopian models um these dystopian visions not one of them thought of an energy, an unstoppable energy money that would cement the individual, that would cement your right to choice, that would cement your right to starting a family, that would cement your right to making mistakes, your right to tragedy, that would cement your right to individual autonomy, bodily autonomy. So none of them thought of Bitcoin. Bitcoin flies in the face of every dystopian vision and it also flies in the face of the great reset um because it basically undermines the fundamental thing that uh the state requires in order to keep centralizing um and keep uh growing its its death grip on um the autonomy of the individual and that is money printing it

It undermines the ability to steal people, to parasite off of people's time. And so I find it fascinating that all these dystopian books and movies and shows have that same theme and not one of them foresaw freedom money. yeah yeah i'm sorry if it took us off track a bit there with the the novella talk but i think it's important to highlight how prescient they are and really not a novel but like maybe only the sovereign individual is able to see something like this have you read that yeah that's a great point i mean the what's funny is that um you know the attitude of like okay um i have nothing to hide why do we need privacy and that's that's what happened after 9-11 that attitude of like i mean they they get it all anyway is what can we do i have nothing to hide anyways and you can extend

that all the way to the the little pamphlets the world economic forum put out uh those little banners the um it's 2030 um i own nothing i have no privacy and you know i'm happy or something to that great degree or you will own nothing and be happy right i'm just extending it all the way out And, you know, when people see the Chinese social scoring society, they not only kind of miss that it de-emphasizes private property and the ability to have privacy at all, like, so that goes way down. um they also miss the fact that the social scoring system the panopticon that that monitors and and the algorithm that decides it and then all the enforcement mechanisms between the the real-time gates that are you know physically and digitally present and also the super police that that can treat anyone extra legally um that system usurps law on paper so law no no matter

matters, the social score becomes law. That becomes your God. And there only seems to be three penalties for disobeying it. So all laws are simplified. They're streamlined into kind of three things. If you stop being a model citizen, the first thing that happens is you get reduced access to society. So your time gets a lot harder. People don't hear your message. It's harder for you to get job it's harder for you to access basic services it's harder for you to move your mobility gets extremely limited um and if you continue to not be a role model then you start to be like a beginning dissident and at that level they'll come kick you up and you get re-educated so you get taken and they re-teach you the way that you're supposed to behave and and okay and

if you still don't uh uh start to you know uh lean into the the uh the gamification of your social score then you get disappear right and and that then you are a dissident you're made an example of and this is where you hear the scarier stuff and like the wiggers and you know and what happens in these you know these camps where you're disappeared it's hard to say it looks a lot like a type of genocide where it's um where you're used for labor or maybe the you know organ harvesting and but i i simplify it i just you know you get disappeared and we have we don't have very good data on what that means we just know that families no longer know where you are and so those seem to be the three levels and so when people think of that coming to the west what they don't realize

is um ask yourself does that system look like it's coming here and you see the stuff in australia but you also see like quarantine centers being built in australia and um and and and so you know it makes me wonder is is that way you know it's let me put it this way you you can't import china's flavor of authoritarianism to the west without importing china's flavor of authoritarianism to the West. And if Australia is the trident, it's the vanguard, right? It's the thing that's out ahead of everything. Are you seeing stuff that looks like China? Are you seeing that you need to scan an ID, a QR code, your face to get on public transportation? Are you seeing them make examples of people who aren't model citizens using, you know, arbitrary

uh law super police pre-crime are you seeing centers to where they can um re-educate and disappear people and and and it's hard to say you we're seeing centers we're seeing quarantine centers and um you know you can connect the dots but it looks a lot like they're standing that up and and you know as it relates to the sovereign individual it's it's in the same way that these dystopian novels didn't see Bitcoin coming. I don't think the Great Reset or these nation states are prepared to handle it. And because, well, let's just say

they have their hands completely full with all the sheeple that are complying, right? I think it's been a home run beyond their wildest dreams. The masses, they want this. And that's another adjustment to make. it's it's not that people are being entrapped it's it's almost that people are demanding this communism they're it's it's the side effect of safe space maximalism right like they're to the degree where if you told them what this was they want it does that make sense yeah it's

they've been fighting a war of attrition their whole lives and then they've gotten to the point we're like all right just give it to me i don't care anymore but the sovereign individual says that there's a a part of the population that's not willing that that goes on to start um unstoppable free societies that that that takes on a life cycle a lifestyle of such asymmetric defense that um a new way of living and i think you know we'll talk about that before this pod is over with but i think that that is exactly what's going to happen um i think what's going to happen is there's a lion's share of people that want centralization they don't want decentralization they want it and that's the surf class and i

think that they will waltz directly into this and and um they will not be denied the great reset um because they are so um captured mentally that uh there's nothing we can do to prevent it and and so um folks have asked me like okay your thesis is that by 2030 um bitcoin wins or great reset wins and i actually think um they both do i think the great reset gets off the ground because there's a a you know millions and millions of willing participants and for the same reason i think a decentralized revolution emerges organically you know because there's millions of people who are unwilling and they have bitcoin to learn from as the basis for storing their time and um sacrifice and so then they can take those lessons and extend it to the other parts of their

life to bring asymmetric defense in other ways that they live and that creates um that insulates them from uh tyranny reaching into the intimate parts of their life and coercing them again and they can teach that and create a culture of that um so i i actually think you get more of a a hard fork than like one winning. Now, over the long period of time, I think Bitcoin disenfranchises the high tech, you know, PC communist cities, because I think a side effect of communism is you have to have two tiers. You have to have a tier of elite who are wealthy and don't live like the serfs. And I believe that that tier will buy Bitcoin. And that'll ultimately create the same problem you saw in the Soviet Union, which is, or Venezuela, which is the surf cities become

resource poor over time and end up having to sell raw resources to feed people to poverty and death and misery to the point where the whole idea collapses. So long-term, I actually think that's what's happening. I just don't know if that's decades off or not. But short-term, I see, I think it's like a fork yeah i mean certainly i hope it doesn't take too long but no it seems to be barreling in that direction i mean we talked about in the first episode like sort of the quasi balkanization and states asserting their rights and people using their feet myself included to go live in those states and start being around more like-minded individuals and And obviously you have the New Yorks, the San Francisco's of the world that are going full force ahead with these vaccine passports and more restrictions and these credit systems.

And the bifurcation has started. Movement is being made. Yeah, I could certainly see that scenario playing out where they both win, at least temporarily, and they exist along each other, alongside each other in parallel. But yeah, I think the overwhelming difference in quality of life and those leading a sovereign life being much higher than those who are stuck in the open air prisons around the world is going to be too appealing to not want to transition to that. And again, there's going to be a point where it's like, all right, this is demonstrably better for not only my well-being, but materially, but my soul as well, and my human ability to pursue human action. and you you could see where um where information control and censorship becomes very important because if you're in a what they're calling smart cities so these this is where they want to launch most of the the omnipresent surveillance and and the the real-time uh checkpoints whether they're physical or digital but they this is where they want to launch these um the the concepts

of the fourth industrial revolution the great reset um if you're in there um and and that's not particularly like a happy existence what you don't want is you don't want to hear about these or they don't want to allow you to hear about these flourishing areas that are doing capitalism and free choice and like you know you hear that are you know a florence or renaissance is around like you know oh it's like one hour north from me right they don't want that so so censorship and and sort of like um turning the internet into like an intranet where you access it with digital id like that type of stuff is going to be very critical um to um shielding people from flourishing that would be happening as as a result of um uh free you know voluntary uh commerce

apply the north korea strategy or i mean yeah or a more modernized version of that is china right and you have the the great you know so you have the great firewall of china you could imagine a great firewall of the west and this is where like the thesis for the cyber pandemic starts to come in so um you know so the world economic forum davos the guys that predicted uh covid and and spent a bunch of time in a think tank and these various sessions brainstorming how the world should react to it, how the media should react to it, how all the countries would end up banding together to form a new world order based on post-pandemic responsibility. These same folks have a thesis

about a cyber pandemic, which is to say, you know, we'll have these hacks that make the internet not a safe space anymore. It'll be this dangerous place that you can't trust. And so some big trauma fear event will happen. And then, you know, the same old Malthusian thing. So we'll have to come together as a society and put in and undo all the previous norms, establish new norms so that we could trust the internet again. So this is where I think you'll probably see something like a big psyop it doesn't have to be that big society will do the rest to beat the um the hysteria drum so it can just be a small medium-sized disruption that's that the the mainstream media turns into a mass hysteria and then you could see calls for um digital identity in order to log on to the

internet log on to your amazon or your twitter your email and that way they can keep track and keep you safe right and that's the idea then that's your safe space maximalism um coming and eliminating the freedom of the internet and well that's quite useful for controlling information and and also scoring people understanding are you a model citizen or do you need to be um does your mobility need to be limited or do you need to be re-educated or disappeared and and so one interesting data point actually two things one is that um uh the uh when 9-11 happened um uh there's a international body of countries um together that uh that uh promised each other military support um and they is they triggered article 5 article 5 in their own papers is

basically an act of war and that's what allowed for a lot of the norms to be reset and a lot of the things we saw in terms of dragnet and and um uh all the invasive private safety measures at airports what have you um that hasn't been triggered since um i'm trying to think of the international uh alliance that did this but um they haven't triggered it since and they recently came out and said um you can think of it like un it's not un it's a it's a similar g7 or yeah close close it's it's the military um part of it i'm gonna think of it after this pod but um they updated their articles to say that um a cyber attack would would be included um would also be an act of war and so it looks a little like they're setting the um setting the the

circumstances that would allow a large psyop to give them clearance to treat that like a 9-11 and extend um their extra legal power to the internet and and so um i think if we're gonna see something like that like because you need to control what the surf sees in this very strict way so it wouldn't surprise me if if that's kind of what's on the um horizon um here one second i'm gonna why nato nato nato there we go yes yep and so they haven't triggered article 5 since uh 9 11 and they've updated it so that cyber uh you know cyber can trigger it and so you know it's not hard to connect the dots and say okay well if the abc's uh coordinated a large cyber false flag the mainstream media could beat the hysteria fear loop society would be terrified that the internet

was no longer trustworthy um you'd have to wipe out the previous norms establish new norms to restore trust a new normal and it would be um these nato allies banding together against cyber terrorism calls for digital identity and then that's how you would get a great firewall of the west and you know that's how because because currently we don't have a good story for importing that right we have a great story for movement passes and social scoring in central bank digital currencies but but you know what what rationale could canada or australia say oh and by the way every time you open your computer you're going to be logging in with your government id what rationale do they have so this is laying the the groundworks to vaccinate the internet

sort of speak and and and that's how you get the full closed loop society where um everything is tied to your digital um identity and um you know we talk and so this is cyber terrorism and so now you can treat people you know if it was easy to to treat people with extra legal uh persecution when it was just terrorism wait until it's cyber terrorism right because now it's completely arbitrary and and infinitely easier to um to fabricate anything right yeah just make everything very succinct and easy and they're beginning to do this in australia this week alone they just say i think it was yesterday or the day before they pushed through a law that allows the law enforcement to come and take control of your social media accounts and your

your phones and your email accounts and erase stuff and so uh so i had plebs who are took note when i um made a big stink over this jason lowry character in the bitcoin space and and um i wasn't just singling him out i had i have a reasonable rationale for for um rejecting his thesis because um this is a uh an intelligence agent that works um with the dod i believe and um that's right space force okay and he's worked with a bunch of abcs and um he's suggesting is that hey i'm gonna be your inside guy i'm gonna sell the government on adopting bitcoin just help me come up with a narrative that they would be able to hear and so a bunch of bitcoin people jumped in and were very enthusiastic

because he had interesting points right it is interesting the idea that bitcoin could be a pillar of national security in that it sort of imbues you with this other, the state with another asymmetric defense in the same way that like a nuclear submarine planted all around the world gives you that sort of specter of force gives you a defensive characteristic, right? um but when i hear what what i see is i see is like okay let's are talking about bitcoin as if it was a weapon let's start talking about bitcoin as if it was a nuclear submarine um let's start talking about bitcoin as if it's a way that we can defeat the state let's and and what i saw coming out of jason you know in my mind it's not very genuous in fact i i think there's a strategy

behind it because the government doesn't um need a low-level intelligence agent to tell them a story about uh how bitcoin can be part of their um national defense strategy in fact um if I think what's more likely is when I hold the signals of the security state recalibrating on American citizens and recalibrating on conservatives, and I think of NATO saying that Article 5 will be triggered for cyber, and then I also look at this intelligence agents saying, yeah, Bitcoin is a cyber weapon used to disenfranchise the state and Bitcoin is digital force, right? And we're all just, you know, digital jihadis buying Bitcoin, right? To me, part of me thinks that what that's doing is trying to take over the Bitcoin narrative and

make it about force. And I reject that because I think Bitcoin is saving. Saving is speech. Speech is not violence. In fact, I've heard that before. Speech is violence. That's a free space maximalist point of view. So anytime someone's saying speech is violence, you have to reject it. And so I reject the thesis of Jason, especially when I view it through the lens of monetary reset, because here we are where they might be trying to 9-11 the internet. They might be trying to blow the whistle and say, oh, cyber pandemic. And now there's a war on cyber terrorists which is what does that mean and um oh and in the exact same time you have the whole bitcoin space saying yeah bitcoin is digital force right yeah and and so we should reject that

because saving is not force um saving is not violence um if if i if if a if if a worker labors and saves his sacrifice in a way that it disenfranchises the parasitism of rent seekers, that's not violence. That's justice. And so Bitcoin, saving is not violence. Bitcoin is self-defense. The walls on your house are not violent. They prevent other people from coming in if that feels like violence to a robber or someone who's going to come in and kill you then that is justice that's not violence and in the same way if citizens saving their time in bitcoin feels like violence to someone that wants to steal their time well then that's justice that's not you know that's not digital force that's that's merely natural law being enforced

in a way that yes now the government must ask it must it must get the it must get the uh the buy-in it must voluntarily um earn its keep and so um you know we we talk about the cyber pandemic and and i had lots of clubs wondering why i wasn't jumping in favor of of that framing and it's Because I think it's just supremely, you know, why radicalize Bitcoin this close to the super cycle? Why radicalize it this close to monetary reset? You know, do you remember when gold holders were demonized when we, around 1971, when we were removed off the gold standard? Right? Oh, you're a hoarder.

Hoarder, yeah. You were in 1931. and probably even more acutely in 1931 during the executive order. Right. So, yeah, that's correct. So why demonize Bitcoiners this close to monetary reset? You got to wonder. Why radicalize the narrative?

And so, you know, what I say is we need to keep, you know, Bitcoin is for individuals. It's for families. It's for nations. It's wholesome. It's not, it's about defense. It's not about offense. It never has been.

and and so we need to reject any framing that says bitcoin is a weapon it's it's cyber force it's digital warfare you know because does that mean we're all digital soldier you know no that's a very bad game yeah just lean into opt-in it's an opt-in system what i will say what i will say to jason because um i don't know the individual on it and if his motives are pure, what he'll do is he'll update the thesis to make it a defensive one. And he will stop trying to radicalize the narrative within the Bitcoin space. He'll embrace that it's a peaceful revolution of noncompliance. There is no center. It's an unstoppable revolution because there is no center. There is no commanders. It's not anything like anything we've

seen before it's it's certainly not a weapon it's it's it's asymmetric defense and so um it if his goal is to um win the win the ears of the bitcoin space and and then what he should do is um update his thesis such that it doesn't radicalize the narrative yet still is compelling to his bosses which for you know which presumably need need him need his help learning about why the government should adopt bitcoin yeah and if you think about it's funny because the other the alternative system that bitcoin's attempting to replace is more coercive and uses considerably more force than bitcoin ever could or has up to this point which is none and bitcoin's force is pure if it has any is just the economic incentive where and you have the ability to opt in to that

incentive game or not um yeah you know if this was okay let's say this is like a timothy may talking anarcho-capitalism and he and he wants to have a philosophical intellectual discussion about bitcoin being a force that is a very different thing than a intelligence agent saying come on let's all be um let's all be you know digital dissidents it's just very very different. That's what Lowry is bringing is a political narrative. And if you, so if you're thinking of Bitcoin in the academic narrative, okay, maybe there's a conversation there. I can warrant that. But this close to monetary reset, this close to the super cycle, there is only a political narrative. And so we should be very mindful of that. Are we going to craft, are we

going to define Bitcoin by force, by this cyber attack on the state? Because I don't think that's a good idea in in in the uh you know in lieu of everything else we're seeing i think it's a very a supremely bad idea no i tend to agree yeah you can't give anybody who would like to see bitcoin fail because it puts a throws a wrench in the the great reset the monetary reset i can't give them any ammo from which to attack us and as we've been discussing it seems that the war on terror quote-unquote is turning from abroad and internally in the u.s there is another whether it just be white men in general conservative white men conservatives in general bitcoin tends to fall under the bucket of tools used by that that demographic that's

being signaled out. Yep. And so, but if we come together as a space with a relentless messaging around Bitcoin as a defense of individuals and families' time and sacrifice, I think we'll come out on the right side because it's just more true. It's just far more true that a unbreakable safe is not a weapon it's safe right a a cement wall that protects you know your child while it's sleeping is not a weapon right and so i i think that rings more true and i think we just stick to that and and that'll but you know again having the lens of monetary reset allows you to connect these things and say well wait a second wait a second here um and so i think i think we'll end up on the right side of that um and it you know it's the same thing with this extra legal treatment that

terrorism uh grants the state this this loose concept of terrorism and that could be applied to certainly real world psyops but maybe even uh the cyberspace which is terrifying and it leads you to and a lot of plebs and memes on twitter have been wanting me to touch on this uh genocide like how how close are we to something like a genocide and what is the nature of that and is that something that plebs and normal people should be thinking about and you know they they have these signals where it's scaring them and and and so there's that uh screenshot of like what is it 11 or 7 steps of genocide yeah and you saw you see these um people have made some clever photoshops where they show these concentration camps and instead of work will

set you free in German, it says vaccines will set you free. And, you know, there's real fear in the space and out there about this. And my thinking on it is, well, you just want to understand the nature of genocide and how it happens. And then you can contrast where we are now. And so I think the way to dispel that fear is just to learn about genocide and know that it's not, you know, it is tangible. You can wrap your arms around it and understand it. And that puts you in a place where you can measure where we are in relation to the actual occurring. And the chart you mentioned is a good one because it shows you that, you know, if it is going to happen, that we're closer towards the end than the beginning of those type of events um but it's

also important to know that um you know like in world war ii when genocide happened um yeah when you when you learn about this in school you tend to think of it as like an atomic event like it all happens at once um and the same thing with like the soviet union communism you tend to think of it it's like all at once but a key part about genocide is that they're slow they're really slow. They're slow enough that it's almost like boiling a frog in water. If you boil a frog in water too hot, it'll jump out. If it's too cool, it'll take too long. But there's a sweet spot where the frog won't know it's being boiled alive. And genocide is kind of like that. If they go too fast, people will get out of it. And if they go too slow, well, it won't happen. And so there's

a sweet spot and so that that's how you want to think about you want to try and gauge the pace um and in order to determine is it happening when when could something like that happen and also the extent right like um uh in world war ii like so in germany and soviet russia it's like they were large they were massive but when you but the world is large and massive and they weren't all-encompassing. So there was a segment of people that were rifled into these things and didn't opt out, so to speak, even with all the warnings, or maybe had no choice. And then there was a large segment of people who opted out, who saw, who made moves, right? And so that's also important to think about. And that, to a certain degree, you have the ability to kind of look plainly and step away

from these things and so i i try and bring that to the thinking and um but i think more importantly it's it's just like malthusian fear spells there's a rhythm and a um a formula for how these things happen and you can see them in in in all previous genocide and i think the the number one um uh indicators collective uh victimhood um so if you take like a a society and you convince them that they are a victim of some uh extreme injustice and that they and then you torment them with the idea of that victimhood and and you apply pain to them and then they believe it's coming from this oppressor then at some point they will sign off on the the final solution which is like okay we're finally ready we're going to break the chains and we're going to do whatever needs to

be done to break free of this oppressor of this oppressor that's causing us all this anguish and and so um some people rightfully called out black lives matter in 2020 is having the notes of this right it's okay we are being um uh this inequality is oppressing us to the degree that we are being persecuted and um the pain level is so high that we're we're willing to um you know we're getting to the point where we need to shake everything up to bring in a solution and people are right that it had the notes of that but it didn't have it didn't have the follow-through It didn't have the pace and the air kind of got sucked out of it as we switched into the COVID shift. So it's important to call out that everything that has the notes of genocide doesn't necessarily turn into that.

But you could go to like World War II and you could say, OK, after World War I, the people, the German citizenry were completely, they were demoralized. hyperinflation had completely robbed them of their future and their savings and their retirement so they were absolutely poor and they were losers they lost the war so they were losers on top of it and they didn't have any hope for the future and um but it didn't affect the german uh citizenry equally. There was a segment of society that had insulated themselves from a lot of the pain that they all went through. And so in that moment of vulnerability, a powerful orator united them in collective victimhood, told them a story about how they were a victim, gave them an enemy, and then they cheered on, you know, finally doing what had to be done

to eliminate the enemy so that they could get on without being an oppressed group anymore. And of course, that led to the genocide in World War II with the Jews. And so you might look at that and say, well, wow, as a kid, I just assumed German people were evil, right? But what really was happening was they had a psychological vulnerability that we all do, which is to say we're prone to victimhood. And when you take a whole society and you give them a shared victimhood experience, you can create a genocide. Now, what's really critical to this is the story you tell them needs to have truths in it.

So it was true that bankers hyperinflated the currency. But what was not true about it, what the German people didn't know was that the bankers partnered with the state to do it. The bankers didn't act by themselves. It was a marriage. Right. So the state helped the state helped impoverish the people. But that wasn't for the victimhood story. That wasn't part of it. Right. And so, you know, you could see how people could be demonized and be made a scapegoat or what have you. And you could take that same formula and you could move to the Soviet Union and you could say, OK. um there was rampant poverty and and uh starvation and um and uh there was also a lot of wealth in the soviet union and they basically enjoined the people in collective victimhood and their

suffering and created a an enemy out a bad guy out of the productive class and of course there was some truth to that because within the productive class there were cronyists cronyists who were parasitic and took advantage, used usury and what have you, and entrapped people. So of course there was truth to it. But what they didn't say was that all the good things, all the wealth in that society also came from the productive class, the capitalists. And so enjoined in collective victimhood, the Soviet Union decided, let's basically turn over the productive class and let's do what we need to to break these chains so we're no longer oppressed and and from that flowed genocide okay and so it's it's the same story you need to basically join a society in

collective victimhood and craft an enemy that is oppressing them uh pain them with the ideas of that oppressorship until they're finally ready to um uh you know break the chains and so um the thing is it's like okay so how does that apply to what we're seeing now because people are are trying to draw parallels and saying yeah we're seeing genocide and and maybe the question is you know are we seeing a covert genocide and then so who is the bad guy that you know if if us as a society are to be drawn into collective victimhood by what what's oppressing us and um is it is it covid is covid the bad guy right um is it anti-vaxxers who's you know is it the people that are yeah it's the unvaccinated not allowing you to get back to your normal life

they're oppressing your ability right so if we create pain for the people who are now enjoined in collective victimhood we create pain and tell them that it's because of these this oppressive these people that um the segment of society that's not doing what they should be we we create a demon we demonize them um at what point will the the the collective victimhood decide you know what we'll do anything to to get past this problem any norms any human rights that need to be broken let's let's let's get it done and let's move forward and and that's basically the moment when you have kind of like a final solution, right? It's like, oh, you know, the states have what they need. They have consent to do whatever, right? And of course, when you hold that signal

and you think about history and you hold the signal of these quarantine camps being erected, you hold the signal of how China deals with dissidents. It's basically system uh systemic systemized genocide where system uh systematically they can basically factor out people who don't get along um it's it's worrying yeah they're sterilizing the users yeah right yeah and so it's worrying in that sense and so um are we seeing like an overt genocide I don't think so, because I think the way that China does it is, it's systemized, and it's kind of, it's covert, and by the time, and it's, people are largely in favor of it, and they're still unaware that it's occurring, right? It's out of sight, out of mind. So they've tucked it neatly within the bounds of their authoritarianism that it's continuous, right? It's not a moment. It doesn't end. It just continually happens. And so I think what I would say is we're already seeing a genocide in China. It's just that model is the latest version of it, and it's being exported to the West. Um, and folks say, okay, well, what about sterilization? What about deaths? Um, my current

thesis is I, well on sterilization, um, we've already seen a multi-decade attack on fertility. Um, fertility is very sensitive in the body and it doesn't, you know, pollutants and food already pushed the needle in terms of hormones enough to down engineer fertility, um, to the degree where, you know, I think we're more likely to have a population crisis downwards than upwards, um, naturally because of previous, um, uh, previous, uh, elements that have affected fertility. So vegetable oils, foods, lack of vitamin D, um, estrogenics, um, we have processed food. Um, um, and so I'm, I'm suspicious of like a, a big bang mass infertility, um, uh, event, because I think what's more likely they get the population on this vaccine schedule,

And then they can dial that down as they see fit. Right. Just a little more. So, you know, let's say these vaccines do cause infertility at rates of like five to 10%. I think that's perfectly suitable because it stays covert. You know, it doesn't have to be this big reckoning moment. And so they can just dial that up or down as they see fit. And I think that that's probably more likely than a big bang infertility event. now i can't stop thinking about um now i'm thinking of of children and men and what's that other show where like the women can't have babies yeah like more conditioning for or being of these type of events and mass infertility yeah i mean the handmaid's tale that's what i'm thinking You know, you, yeah. I mean, one could zoom out and say, what might actually be happening is that the state knows we're heading towards a downwards population crisis already. I mean, it wasn't that long ago, we were talking about Japan and talking about China is having a population crisis, right? Like there's not enough children, it's gonna be all old people, right? That was a societal conversation we were having. Right. and um well if that happened um and and the state didn't have an answer to it what would happen is you would have a type of economic collapse and then you would have uh forced uh austerity which

is to say like we'd all have to tighten our belts to get through it and so um you know you might even say that uh the great reset attempts to answer um a natural or natural a engineered population crisis with um a a shared mission so that we can hot you know to fight covid so that we can hide the forced austerity we would have other words had to live through um if a if the population crisis was allowed to um to play out through you know these incredibly low birth rates yeah well i mean not only is there the the physical aspect or aspects like via like making people unhealthier via food or forced vaccines but there's also that economic right like another factor for low fertility rates in the past two decades and falling fertility rates probably

more accurately described what i'm getting at here is is that people the prospect of even having a child in the first place has been so diminished that um people again just the war of attrition not being able to economically sustain themselves uh working their asses off it just reduces their their drive to have children so if you view the people that defend money printing as or they view themselves as caretakers of society then that could be a possible answer is that inevitability in terms of um austerity and a population crisis and they need a a story for society to tell itself in order to drastically pull the belt in. And if the shape of communism that they're launching

warrants itself to very small populations, I don't think there would be an overt mass death event. I think it would be smarter of them to basically create more levers that they can pull to dial fertility and dial the amount of population down in a covert manner. And so for that reason, I think it's more likely that we'll see things that are hard to put your finger on and are hard to point at, but that are happening all around us. And so infertility through vaccines, I think, is possible, but I don't think it'll be a big bang thing.

Um, the other thing that people bring up is this, um, uh, this ADE, this, uh, antibody, uh, derived enhancement. Um, so this, this idea that, uh, in Israel, the, the rates of COVID are all time highs, despite being the, um, highest vaccinated population in the world. And the people that are vaccinated are actually having a rougher time with the newer strains. And there's papers that suggest that the vaccinations themselves are creating this accelerated adaptation by the virus into these new strains. And if that creates a feedback loop, could you see a kind of mass death that way? I think it's something to watch closely, especially if it affects people who are not vaccinated as well, because it'll keep creating this wave after wave that spreads through the world, this never-ending pandemic, if that's the case.

Um, but I think I still go back to the numbers, which is to say, um, COVID is about as deadly as a flu until you're over 75. Once you're over 75, it seems to be twice as deadly as a flu. Um, but it's not equally distributed across the world. For some reason, it, it applies to the West worse. the numbers in the west are far worse and the numbers in the united states are are the worst on the planet and um i the reason for that probably has to do with metabolic health in the u.s we're we're the most metabolically unhealthy in the world and um that's actually why we're the

most expensive population to insure in the world and why universal health care is the least likely thing to happen here in the world um because we are um we're insulin resistant we're we have high systemic inflammation we're obese and and so i think what is possible is that if your body is spending all its time trying not to die from obesity and the american standard diet it might uh not be able to defend itself from a strengthening seasonal influenza um so so one thing to take from that is that um you know these vegetable oils pufas the staying out of the sun this uh high stress level from the uh the hysteria loop um all these things work to make you know you more likely to keel over from even the flu you know and if there is a a gradually strengthening

COVID from ADE, then the lever that you have, um, to resist that is just to be healthy, undo a lot of the, uh, health, uh, problems associated with modernity. And luckily there's very good data that shows, um, simply dumping vegetable oils, getting your son eating whole animal products, whole vegetables. Um, some of these diets like carnivore seems to be particularly, um, effective for some people. Keto seems to work really well, like Mediterranean keto for some people. Um, but you know, we now understand how to eliminate most of these metabolic diseases in short order. So, um, I think what I would say is for the average pleb who was concerned about ADE, um, you have a lever uh in terms of just making your body healthy that would uh i think is fairly efficient

and and you control that so people with personal responsibility i think can opt out if that really is a covert um genocide um uh like attack vector i think you'll be able to just merely opt out of that with your own um uh decisions uh but you might look at that and say oh is that an effective way to eliminate this kind of this useless class, because a lot of the globalist academia focuses on pruning people who don't produce value. And so I don't think I would be surprised to learn that that these seasonal viruses were basically created by vaccines and kept strong in order to act as a brush fire amongst the useless class that wouldn't surprise me um but we we can't say we can't say can we yeah what are they referred to as useless eaters that would yeah useless eaters

useless eaters and so so yeah maybe ade is real maybe you know maybe if you're 80 or you're obese and metabolically sick uh you're at you're at risk um for for action or death and well you can control um if you're metabolically sick and and there's never been a better time than now the levers we have for that are awesome they work quick um fasting carnivorism um you know lifting getting in the sun these type of things work very fast um so so i think that's really good news and yeah, if there is kind of like a pruning of a useless eaters, it's not something that individuals would be able to change. But I'd say it's worth watching closely. What it does mean is that the answer to that, you know, you have to choose between getting a vaccine

or getting metabolically healthy. And I hope it goes without saying that you should just get metabolically healthy right because your your immune system has developed for millions of years um just treat it right and it'll treat you right um and and then just watch the ade thing closely as as and we'll continue to watch it because i you know i think there's merit there but i i still don't see that as a a big bang um uh mass death event neither do i see the booster train is a big bang mass death event i think they're completely content to dial up eating into that useless eater class if that is what's happening yeah i think that's a very level-headed view on on that side i hope that's the case at least right um i think we would all hope that and to

think that mass vaccination campaigns and the boosters are um a concerted effort to reduce a lot of humanity that would be almost too evil to stomach and sure i mean and there's a certain angle that you can look at it and say like is it genocide if we're killing ourselves you know is it jenna's like are they merely helping well that's the other thing too like and i think which is like part of the theme of what you're preaching as well is like we need to take personal responsibility like there is a a like a you can blame complacency individual complacency for getting us into the spot in the first place where we're being set up to be thrust into this monetary reset like the more people that take

extreme ownership over themselves and their lives and what they can control whether that be what they eat what they drink how much they work out what tech they use what money they use these options to preserve sovereignty are all out there and preserve your health and and they're on the table it's just a decision and are you willing to take it are you willing to exert that extreme ownership over your own life i think yeah if you if you eliminate the victimhood from the equation and take responsibility in all these areas i think what you learn in that journey is that um you weren't a victim as much as you thought and and maybe just maybe you were allowing tyrants into your life in all these ways

through the food through the the tech stack through your money through um all these all the surface area you were kind of just letting hanging out there you can take up that slack and get your house in order and realize oh wait a second i have a huge amount of control um over this you know and that's why the question like is it genocide if we're killing ourselves right if we're chugging back vegetable oil knowing that it causes the type of inflammation that would create obesity and prevent our immune system from uh fighting off seasonal viruses right so uh it's something to think about and and from the mouth you know from the malthusian wizard's point of view like you could also imagine them being like listen if if you you could you could recognize the point

of view of a brush fire right like hey if these things are out there and people are willingly doing them and and like you know how is that our responsibility and so like there is a bit of a it takes two to tango right there is there is responsibility on both ends and i think people need to have that kind of extreme ownership point of view yeah agreed agreed take more control of your lives freaks that's why i mean i think bitcoin is a shining beacon of of tool through it that allows you to do that i think you would agree and that being said i think this is where we should stop this particular conversation we made it halfway through your list you have 10 points here we've made it through five and this is a a perfect place to stop and we can pick this

up next week the week after um and keep growing on this conversation that started last month yeah i think we're due for a part three um we'll get into all the fun stuff in terms of the who behind the malthusian wizards who defends money printing the why you know why even enslave humanity i have a lot of thoughts there and then finally and the most exciting part is the battle for the the battle for this next long cycle like will it be this global communism or will it be this decentralized um emergent revolution and and i'll talk through the type of things you can do to um take sovereignty into your own hands and you know and opt out every layer in your own life yes um i'm looking at what we're going to talk about next time and it's

only gets better from here freaks i'm more optimistic now after the last part of the conversation here maybe it's you know maybe it's like we just need to take extreme ownership you know it's funny it's i i go to these places and they're kind of dark and i try and bring a thoughtful the thoughtfulness to it um but i'm i'm an extreme optimist because i i see that most of this is in our hands when you put your hands on it and you break it down and talk about it yeah there's some points that are kind of dark kind of scary but it's not that bad once you have it in your hands the fear spell really is broken you can talk about it plainly calmly and then you can actually navigate in relation to that you can move away and empower yourself and so you know

even though we go there i'm generally like optimistic and and i'm like a very excited uh pleb me as well me as well i hope you freaks are too you plebs are too we're gonna pick this up uh let us know what you think about this episode this ongoing conversation that we're having what else do you want to hear i mean i barely i feel like i'm barely even bringing anything the table here what else do you want to hear from from laser let us know um laser as always or as as was the first time this time was incredible as well looking forward to finishing this conversation thank you freaks we'll do it again soon all right that's all we got peace and love