TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #303: Falling down the WEF rabbit hole with Jesse Matchey

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

Join Marty as he sits down with retired Army Blackhawk Pilot Jesse Matchey to discuss the WEF rabbit hole. Follow Jesse Matchey on Twitter Shoutout to our sponsors: Unchained Capital Braiins HodlHodl Bitcoin 2022 - use the code TFTC for 10% off

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Jesse Macci, what's it like being in Twitter jail? I'll tell you, man, it was kind of a kick in the face because I looked at this and I thought, how many people have built so much of a following, their careers, their livelihoods, They're movements that can be just wiped, you know, with a click of a button. And I'm not quite wiped yet, but this, I guess, appeal battle that I have with Twitter is going to kind of see what, you know, maybe shape what direction I go from here. But the thing that got me was a study I shared. I forget who put it out. It was a medical journal.

But it was comparing the frailty of elderly and climate change and whether or not we should be managing Earth's carbon and pension money into the decision on medical care for elderly. um and so i sarcastically i kind of mocked it and i said should we implement mandatory euthanasia at um age 65 to save on pensions and carbon 10 days later that's that's what got me yeah well like we were like we were saying before we hit record and the people that were probably going to spend most of our time talking about from the world economic forum would probably like those useless eaters to to fall off the face of the earth um exactly and there's legitimacy to that um i mean it goes far it goes far back far reaching and and i think um maybe that's out of anything we highlight in this are you still there yep oh okay out of anything we highlight in this

i i want to think that maybe the origins of the world economic forum is probably um the most critical and i i haven't seen anybody else that's been sharing a lot of this information um and digging into the research behind it but it's important to see that a lot of it comes from the club of rome and you know 1971 was the uh the i guess the start of the world economic forum it was originally called the european management symposium uh klaus schwab well before we jump into before we jump into all this i think it's important to get the the backstory of what sent you down this path so you're a retired black hawk uh pilot from the army and yeah you essentially had somebody reach out to you and say

hey can you dive into this particular data set and verify whether or not something is true and And I think you can explain what that prompt was and that was what threw you down this rabbit hole, correct? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, there's several pieces to that, Tom and Pat. But I think the first one is, I think it was a high school acquaintance that came to me and they were following this QAnon stuff. And they came to me and said, hey, this flight log, it looks like somebody's saying that the State Department was using an aircraft that was on Epstein's ranch. Can you help me make sense of this? And I thought, well, that should be easy to debunk.

I was a pilot, and I figured, well, I can probably just go check the NTSB website and look at a flight log. So I did. The the court documented. So first, that's a felony to to falsify court documents. Second, it was an FAA document. So that's also a felony to falsify. So I was like, OK, so I'm looking at the tail number and then I cross reference with the NTSB website. at the NTS website, shared this story about what is an OD-10. I forget the actual aircraft, Bronco something. But it's like a surveillance aircraft. And that was the tail number that he was referencing.

And so I looked at this and I thought, okay, well, it doesn't show this. But that is the tail number on the flight log, and it's under a Bell 206. Well, that was the aircraft that I learned how to fly on. And so I thought, that's a helicopter. Why was that on this Zorro Ranch? And the odds of them using a State Department tail number, yes, they can get reassigned after an aircraft is decommissioned, mission which seems to be have been the case with this this bronco whatever aircraft uh state department aircraft um and i thought the odds of that being reassigned probably you know with this

epstein thing and on top of it rumors at the time there were just rumors with clinton being on flight logs i said this is this is like a one in a billion chance there's something here um so that That's what set me down this path, but I realized that there was a lot more to it while I was in my executive MBA program and learning about stock versus, excuse me, shareholder capitalism versus Klaus Schwab's stakeholder capitalism. And so I went into the history on a lot of the two where Epstein's, Maxwell's, Robert Maxwell brought me down to the origins of World Economic Forum and how these people's ideologies kind of play into the genesis of all of this. Yeah. And to be clear, a friend who was interested in the QAnon stuff sent you down this rabbit hole. But I think before we hit record, you explained to me you don't believe the QAnon theory. Yeah, so I really haven't, I still don't have that pinpointed what it was. Maybe Operation Trust, something like that, which was used, it was the Bolshevik Revolution. They kind of got people to trust in a plan, essentially, and it pacified their resistance. And so it maybe negated some of the power of any kind of resisting force against what they were trying to do.

And, you know, some claim that's what this was. I don't know. But when you look at Q itself, the letter Q, that's a security clearance, compartmental security clearance. So I had a secret clearance. There's a secret, and then there's a compartmental, like L, and then there's top secret, which then further is you have Q. Q falls under the Department of Energy, which sent me down further rabbit holes with this Epstein and Maxwell stuff because there's a lot of science involved with that. And as you mentioned, you had Whitney Webb on here before. Epstein's and Maxwell's both have a lot of ties to not just U.S. science and Harvard and MIT, but globally and very specifically to our administration and in several administrations. You know, I found some stuff with Clinton's PCAST. I forget the acronym right now. President's Council Advisory Science Technology, maybe. And then the OSTP, which is their Office of Science Technology Policy. And this fourth industrial revolution stuff being pushed by Klaus Schwab. There's a lot of tie-ins there. Go ahead.

now as i said let's uh so i think that's a good base setting for your research path that you've been on like you mentioned before i interrupted you to to set the base you were saying this goes all the way back to 1971 which is a funny year considering this is a bitcoin podcast and bitcoiners are fascinated with the year 1971 because that was the year nixon ripped us off officially completely off the gold standard and many bitcoiners would argue that is when we became completely disconnected from reality from a monetary perspective and that has had negative externalities throughout society over the course of the last five plus decades since 51 years now which is hard to think it's been that long but there's other things going on in

that era mainly coincidentally enough the klaus schwab at the age 33 i believe starting the world economic forum yeah and it's funny um you know you mentioned nixon but then kissinger is kind of one of the key roles in that um gold standard and setting up the petrodollar with the sauds um, Kissinger actually played a huge role with Epstein. Um, and I think that it's probably all the way back with Robert Maxwell as well. And that's the, the area I've really trying to been trying to explore, but, um, Kissinger with, uh, was it, um, Google's, um, what's his name? Uh, Eric Schmidt on Trilateral Commission. They've had they had Epstein on there for 12 years. And, you know, I'm sorry, people, but if you have Ivy League billionaires connected to all of these different things,

at some point you have to ask yourself, OK, were they all just naive? Are they inept? i i just don't buy that and you know i i've put together extensive research on on why i think that it's not ineptitude and it's actually malevolence and you know kissinger ties back to a lot of these things and you know it's uh actually just within you know the past week or so is kind of where i think i made the final tie-in on that but it's a fabian um ideology are you familiar with the fabians versus the marxists uh i have uh had fabian uh ideology versus marxist ideology explained to me but for anybody out there who may be unaware it's listening why don't we why don't we jump yeah so so you know marxists they believe in the revolution uh by like direction

direct action um revolutions uh uprisings um probably what you can consider you know some what the black lives matter and antifa type stuff was doing uh whereas fabian society uh had more of a a subversive quiet and long-term planning um injecting themselves into positions of power and authority government and infiltrating as opposed to direct um i guess revolutions that so their intention was to to get people in roles and positions that could make these changes without people necessarily knowing what's happening and i think that that's probably more where some of the epstein and maxwell stuff traces back um the club of rome so the club of rome 1968 was established and then they're more famous for the limits to growth study that they had reached out to mit

to commission in 71 or 72. But that has kind of set us on this trajectory for a lot of what the World Economic Forum is currently pushing. The World Economic Forum in early 70s, and I'm sorry with Twitter locking me out, I lost a lot of my notes to be able to get specifics together for this chat, but they brought the Club of Rome in, in the early 70s to actually speak at the World economic forum so the very founding of the world economic forum brought in the club of rome and maurice strong who was later the undersecretary general for the un was part of the founding of the world economic forum maurice strong was a club of rome guy so before we go any further what can we describe the club of rome like what what's its why was it created who was a part of it what's

their intention for being so there's you know there's documentation that says it's a rockefeller organization i haven't found direct funding on rockefeller being um the the the backer of it there is you know maybe if you look through some you know like like trusts and and in filtering money you can make that argument i don't know i don't think it's necessary to argue that more so that you can look at some of the people that are involved and you can grasp their ideologies and compare it to what club of rome states but they you can look at like al gore bill clinton gorbachev bill gates ted turner uh all of these people are club of rome and I think one of the triggering things that got me into diving into this was I found a video of

Ted Turner saying climate change is a symptom of overpopulation too many people using too much stuff and it made me start looking into it why is he saying that well Dennis Miller I think it was I forget his name, but he was one of the authors of The Limits to Growth and Limits to Growth in simple form looked at Earth finite resources. Oil energy is kind of what I boil it down to versus overpopulation. and they they had projected at some point there was going to be a calamitous uh action ending or you know humanity ending event where the finite resources would be used up and people would turn into death destruction cannibalism and and chaos and so they felt it was incumbent upon them to bring about change to manage this over time, as opposed to letting it get to that point.

And I think that's where a lot of the centrally planning of the World Economic Forum with inclusive capitalism, stakeholder capitalism, the fourth industrial revolution, what their intent is, is to manage all inputs and outputs and resources of the global economy in their hands to make sure that this this event doesn't occur yeah so around this time to a meme of peak oil came to be obviously climate change has been a a big narrative and a beer a big sort of topic that is used to to scare people into to using less resources and it does seem to to become Very popular around that point in time. All these power players, if you will, seem to be either eugenicists or Malthusians.

They think that humans are bad and that we need to reduce the population to ensure that the earth survives. And regardless of those ideas, peak oil hasn't happened yet. We're still pulling oil out of the ground and massive quantities in demand continues to rise and we're still finding it. Same with natural gas. We have the ability to harness nuclear in better ways than we ever have throughout human history. And along the last 50 years as well, we've obviously had a population explosion into around 8 billion people. And it seems that these people had these theses 50 years ago, and they're clinging to it despite the fact that their thesis has been proven to be pretty wrong throughout the way. And now it's actually, you know, when you said that about nuclear, it triggered another thought.

One of the authors, John Holdren of Limits to Growth, actually was on the CFIUS committee for the signing off of Uranium One. So if you think about nuclear as a solution for this, why aren't we using nuclear power for so many of these things? And. I think that was kind of one of the eye openers for me because I invested in uranium for quite some time and got kicked in the face and beaten for it, but now it's finally taken off. But yeah, I thought that was a contradictory action because if you believe in nuclear power as, you know, hey, this can solve a lot of our environmental issues, our limits on resources, here's the way to unleash a lot of energy, nuclear would be the way to go. So why would you sign off on that deal? yeah and and here in the united states specifically we've put together this nuclear regulatory body that hasn't allowed or okayed the construction of a new reactor and in decades we've seen the mass decommissioning of nuclear power generation in europe and countries like

germany france was starting down the path but has decided to revert as it becomes clear that germany doing it has led to disastrous results in terms of unreliable electricity production and the electricity that is being produced is extremely expensive and then and it is odd considering the the ability we have today as humans to harness this stuff that we just don't do it like are these people really worried about the planets and resources or are they they control freaks um over the the useless eaters as i forget who exactly i think maybe it was george horace who referred to the masses as useless eaters the uh there's a quote by the the fabian society that um i think it's it's one of their um like a model or a logo or

something but it said dear love could us the thou and i with fate conspire to grasp this sorry scheme of things entire would we not shatter it to bits and then remold it to the heart's desire and so it's funny i shared on twitter um the movie fifth element and i shared on here and i And I kind of tried to explain creative destruction. And I think that is the intent of this virus, whether it was planned or not. It's being utilized as that. And we can get into my thoughts on that. But it's being exploited as if it was. A deliberate part of their plans and this. this this clip of the evil Zorg guy knocks a glass of water off his desk and then all the little robots come out and clean it up and he's making the argument of you know see I've I've

created economic activity um by forcing this glass off so we're in the same business we we still care about progress and and advancing the world and when I looked at that um I was trying to help convey to people like have you ever considered that some of the people that are running our country or the world and some of the actions that they've taken that maybe weren't uh ineptitude um and i think the the whole epstein rabbit hole has gone uh it's gotten me to the point to where i don't know how you look at all of these associations and and still think that this is all driven by ineptitude um an example you know one of them you know larry summers nobody seems to hammer this guy right he was the president of harvard he was the treasury secretary for the

clinton admin he was the uh economic advisor for obama yet he gave epstein a an office at harvard He gave them access to their evolutionary dynamics program, the mind, brain, and behavior program. And he was on these flight logs. And when I say these people are on these flight logs, I didn't just find a list that somebody made up and threw a bunch of names on. I actually sifted through the court documents. I looked at the actual flight logs. logs. So as I'm stating earlier, that means they were submitted to court and they were done by a pilot, signed off. I mean, that's multiple felonies if that's falsified. And then

on top of it, to my knowledge, nobody, none of the people that are on these logs have gone and tried to refute these logs. So when I see Larry Summers on there, I have to revisit some of the actions he took while he was treasury secretary. You have to look at the World Trade Organization in China. You have to look at the repeal of the Glass-Steagall. Yeah, I was just about to mention that one.

And how that triggered, or at least played a big role in the financial crisis. And then, you know, since then, you know, monetary policy, we've, I mean, the Fed has essentially, you know, injected so much liquidity. We had TARP, we had QE, we had the bailouts. And now fast forward, it's hard to argue that these actions by the Fed didn't contribute to Black rock, essentially owning the world and having the ability to influence, I don't even want

to call it politics, but influence the way we're governed through, you know, the ESG system. And just recently, I highlighted, before I was, you know, booted from Twitter, I highlighted Most people in the finance world understand FASB rules, accounting rules. Well, now they're coming out with SASB, and this is what they're promoting, Sustainability Accounting Standards Boards. And these are the reporting that they're going to want, you know, accounts to forward, to be able to use for metrics, for ESG. And this is what we're going to be governed by. And I think people are failing to grasp the significance of you didn't vote for the people that are implementing ESG.

You didn't vote for Larry Fink. You didn't vote for the decisions that they're making. And one of the big alarms that I had was in my executive MBA program. We had a diversity and inclusion, what is it, diversity, equity, inclusion ambassador come to our class and tell us about climate change. And she cackled, stating that, well, we ousted somebody from J.P. Morgan Board of Directors because he wasn't on board with climate change. and she said so stakeholders matter investors matter and now uh it's shifting where where we have blackrock with you know eight trillion or nine trillion at the time she was saying under management if blackrock wants you to be on board with climate change you're going to or we're going to vote you off the board or we're going to strip you of your capital and so a ceo hears that

and he's left without a lot of options on what he's going to do. Yeah, ESG is a big topic here at this podcast. And Carlos, say on the split view, the ESG infuriates me. I scream about it on this podcast, on Twitter, because it's being run by a bunch of hypocrites, Larry Fink being one of them,

who'll travel the world on a private jet and try to pontificate about how we need to reduce our carbon footprint I am, and this is controversial and people get angry at me for this, but I don't think there is a climate crisis. I don't think using fossil fuels is necessarily bad. I actually think it's an incredibly good thing. I don't think we should be transitioning to unreliable energy generation sources

like solar and wind. I do think the ESG narrative and its social credit scoring system is a tool of control not really a tool to make the world a better place yeah and and and so if we look back to where um some of that i guess the bigger esg movement um so i was a financial planner with northwestern mutual financial network you know straight out of college i did an internship through there and i remember some of this one of the cfas um talking about esg and it was kind of just starting at that point. And he was, I mean, the advisors in the room were laughing at it. They were mocking the absurdity. Why would, why are, why are investors going to

care anything about, you know, the bottom line, you know, profit, and this isn't going to take off. This isn't going to go anywhere. Well, you know, who's laughing now, but the, The reason why ESG, if you look at Lynn Rothschild, who has been pushing inclusive capitalism, and the World Economic Forum has adopted this as part of their agenda, Lynn Rothschild actually, part of why she had designed this inclusive capitalism, which I think the major rollout was probably around 2012. But her justification for it was the Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party movements, the rising populism after the great financial crisis, and in her words, how capitalism has failed, um, has created this, uh, animosity towards the system. And we, it's unfair. So,

so essentially what she did was created the means to, uh, feed these people, uh, identity politics, um, black lives matter. If you look at the Google trends starting in that timeframe, That's when it really took off. The LGBTQ, a lot of these things were triggered as a way to divert some of that populism, particularly on the left. They captured the entire Occupy Wall Street crew and and and pushed them down this pathway of diversity and inclusion. um yeah don't look at the banks don't look at the the banks that just cross the the great financial crisis don't dig in there you'll probably find stuff that that we don't want you to find it's uh right let's increase the number of times racism is mentioned in the newspapers and uh diversity politics is is brought up in in mainstream media i mean there's those

famous charts of like the words going out and people will be like well no people started caring more it's like no yeah yeah no it's not because they cared it's because the corporate uh well and really behind the corporate world the bankers had decided we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna divert people's attention this way and so when nike rolls out uh blm and um you know call of duty this was a big trigger for me i used to occasionally when i got done flying you know like a night flight with goggles on i'd get home and i would unwind by playing call of duty well Then they started putting BLM in Call of Duty, and I thought, what in the hell? How is this – this is subliminal.

I'm trying to play video games. What are you doing to me? So I actually quit playing video games ever, but I saw what they were trying to do, and it's kind of a form of psychological warfare. I think it's neurolinguistic programming or nudging is probably more the common term. But, you know, subliminally planning this stuff in everything in our lives and nudging people in these directions. So the problem is that this is now being used at their level to drum up a, you know, what's his name? Division. It's pure division. Yeah. Yeah. The physician that just got kind of banned from Twitter, Malone.

So Malone brings up mass formation psychosis. And I try to explain to people, you know, if you look back to Gustav Laban with the he wrote the book, The Crowd. Was it a popular mind, a study of the popular mind? Basically, that's where I started to try and tell people about this. Hey, look at the psychology of a crowd. They're looking for somebody to direct them. And the crowd as a whole, it's not a compilation of a bunch of intelligent individuals. It kind of takes its own mind. And it looks to this leader, a despot, like, for example, the World Economic Forum, to drive this.

And the World Economic Forum had both this CRT, Kendi Ibram guy as a young global leader and the co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Alicia Garza. She was a young global leader. And so at some point, people need to ask themselves, if I'm supporting these causes, Is it because it's an organic movement that is truly meant to help rectify whatever, um, problems we have in our, you know, socioeconomic problems that we have, or is it actually something that has been in place upon us to care about? And are we being manipulated? um yeah and i mean again it's very nefarious it's very evil it's very effective yeah like something blm let's stand for black lives matter like of course black lives matter and i think we've said it many times on this podcast and it's been said elsewhere as well you have to separate blm inc from the phrase black lives matter and that's where people get inherently triggered because they take the latter, the phrase, which is obviously true. And when people try to denigrate

BLM Inc., the organization that has ties to the World Economic Forum and the Young Global Leaders Program, they associate people trying to call out that organization as something that's probably nefarious and has bad intentions and just paint people as racist for not supporting them. Yeah. And so what do you conclude? How do you conclude some of the motives behind these people? So in my mind, and I think you probably agree with its decentralized Bitcoin community ideology, that humans are inherently fallible. And it doesn't matter who gets into power at some point. If they can be corrupted, they will be. It's inevitable.

And I traced back how did Epstein get into the White House? I think it was like 17 times he was at the White House. How did Clinton end up on his 27 flights? And Lynn Rothschild was the one that introduced Epstein to Clinton. Lynn Rothschild had her honeymoon in the White House. Lynn Rothschild was introduced to her husband, Evelyn, through Kissinger. Kissinger mentored Klaus Schwab at Harvard. Klaus Schwab's other mentor, again, also a founder of the World Economic Forum, was Maurice Strong. Maurice Strong was the chairman of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit. Well, the 1992 Rio Earth Summit is when Agenda 21 was announced.

I thought this was all a conspiracy theory forever. I never really actually looked into what Agenda 21 was. Everybody that ever mentioned it was a clown to me. it's nancy pelosi announced it on the floor of congress in 1992 following the real earth summit so in an attempt to i don't want to say shield ourselves but protect ourselves in this particular conversation from people listening to it and be like you guys are conspiracy theorists

what and which again that term in and of itself is a yeah weaponized mechanism to to make people seem crazy off the bat when it is pretty obvious that Dave column says this on this podcast all the time. And outside of this podcast, like if you don't believe that men and women of power conspire to do things and you are an idiot, um, conspiracy theories are real. Um, but, uh, to, to be as ironclad as possible, what is your, your research? Like how, how are you finding this data? What are the sources that you're using and,

And how are you coming to these conclusions? What is the information that you're using? Yeah, try to unpack any time because I've been immersed in this for so long. And I do share the receipts on Twitter. But again, I'm locked out. So that makes it difficult for me. But I go to tax documents are probably my biggest one. You know, you can go to GuideStar.

You can look at the Form 990s. And that's very telling. The Lynn Rothschild introduction to Clinton, well, you can look at the 1995 letter that she wrote to the Clinton admin that said, thank you for your time. I forget all what it says, but it's I wanted to use my 15 minutes with you, Bill Clinton, to talk about currency markets and, you know, with Jeffrey Epstein. And and so, yeah, you can look at the pictures, you can look at the the recent articles that showed how many times he actually was on the White House visitor log. um so it's so it's it's impossible to say okay well these connections aren't there and it's impossible when you see alan dersowitz said um he's on video stating that uh lynn rothschild is who introduced him to jeffrey epstein and then prince andrew uh was introduced through Lynn Rothschild as well. And I can't remember offhand where I found that. But

there is a theme here. And if you go to the flight logs, Lynn Forrester was her maiden name, but she was on Epstein's flight logs. Then you go further and you hook into Lynn Rothschild being on the board of the McCain Institute. And the McCain Institute has a human trafficking arm. And so if they're against human trafficking, yet they still have Lynn Rothschild on their advisory board, how do you not see this as a problem? And there's a video Rudy Havenstein on Twitter. I love that guy. He shared this video of Cindy McCain saying, we all knew who Epstein was. We knew what he was up to.

Nobody would do anything about it. Your husband is the chair of the Armed Forces Service Committee. How does he not do anything? And on top of it, you have a human trafficking arm in your institute. This is insanity. Well, the McCain Institute is also paired with ASU, which is where I got my grad degree, and ASU, this is where things kind of get even more crazy. ASU chairman Michael Crow is, or president Michael Crow, is chairman of In-Q-Tel. Well, In-Q-Tel is the CIA venture capitalist arm. So the McCain Institute is tied with ASU. And in QTEL, when I say kind of a venture capitalist arm, they use universities to kind of funnel research into the CIA. And so I looked at this and I thought, this is insane. Again, a lot of me was figuring this out while I was in my grad program. At the same time, I was just starting to dive into this Epstein stuff. And I had a business project I was working on that kind of conflicts with some of what the World Economic Forum is pushing. But I wrote to President Michael Crow of ASU and I said, hey, this virus looks to be a big deal.

Why are we not doing anything about it? There's there's five people with this in the country. And ASU had one of the first five cases. What what measures are you taking? This is insane. And I mean, I had at this point already pulled everything out of the market. Well, actually, I put it all in TLT, which worked well for me. But I wrote this letter and I just thought, you know, this is going to be hugely impactful on supply chains. You know, but I even wrote other stuff that's probably irrelevant, but it was my thoughts in analyzing this. And, you know, why is it we've shifted so much of our, not shifted, but forfeited our autarky as a country, which later played out with the lack of domestic mask manufacturing, which I worked with a couple

of classmates to try to procure financing for domestic N95 production. At this time, I still thought, hey, this is going to be a big deal because I was concerned it was biowarfare. um and i thought it was a nation versus nation attack i thought it was um china behind it um the chinese communist party and i i'd watched china uh quite a bit because i thought that's where the next financial crisis was going to come from a lot of my world view has changed since then um saying i was in a very similar mindset as well okay yeah and so i wrote this letter and i I got kind of a cheap generic, thank you. Um, and that was it. And I had talked to the, the head of my program about it. And he said, where are you getting your intel

with a, the most dead serious question ever. And I thought, I just thought it was odd that he asked me that, but I think, um, you know, at the time, uh, you know, there's five physicians in the program. Um, so as an executive MBA with the healthcare emphasis and the physicians were all like, get your flu shot. You're, you're a lunatic. Um, later in the program, I became the class Oracle, um, because I was able to, you know, project all this. Um, but now I'm the conspiracy theorist again. So it's okay. Um, yeah. So when I saw, you know, Trump had given this, this speech at the un or davos uh i think it was davos but he essentially said it's my my pin tweet on twitter um it starts off the thread of kind of where my my thinking had progressed on what

is actually happening but it was uh something along the lines of the future does not belong to globalists. It belongs to individual and free nations who cherish their country and cherish their people. And the speech in this isn't a red versus blue thing. It's a it was kind of wait a minute. I think that I think it was an epiphany I had that this is really kind of a globalist versus a nationalist um type of battle and and i think that's when i had the it registered that hey this this virus is bio-warfare but it was an attack not a nation versus nation but on the concept of nations altogether um and so going down well who would be behind this. And I think, you know, that's where the Epstein ties into the science, into

capitalism, into the bankers, into the Clinton admins, you know, science department. And I should probably say that, you know, so my most recent tweet before I was booted, I was tying BioMaru, and forgive me if I don't pronounce a lot of these things properly because I have no idea. BioMaru and the Clinton Health Initiative signed an agreement in 2004, January. Why is that relevant? So, Alain Marou was one of the big funders behind the Wuhan lab. Prior to going to Moderna, Stéphane, again, I don't know how to pronounce his name, Bansal had worked for Bile Maru. So the timeline on this and why I thought, well, this is particularly interesting is Jeffrey Epstein, this is Alan Dershowitz claimed this

in a court document. Jeffrey Epstein co-founded the Clinton Foundation. After that, in 2000, Bill Clinton announced that they had discovered the God gene. I think it is how he described it. I actually kept this in front of me just so I could try and say exactly what he said. Today, we are learning the language in which God created life. It will revolutionize the diagnosis, prevention, and treatment of most, if not all, human diseases. They called it the most important, most wondrous map ever produced by humankind. And so that was in 2000.

Well, 2003, November, Clinton, Epstein, Ira Magaziner, which was the manager for the Clinton Health Initiative, all flew to Beijing. two months, not even full two months, I think it was six weeks later, is when the BioMaru and the Clinton Foundation signed an agreement, a partnership, and it had an emphasis on HIV. Fast forward to 2007, that's when Stephen Bansal was brought on board to BioMaru. he then left for moderna in like 2011 time frame at moderna 2011 2012 time frame is when darpa started funding moderna 2016 there's an article through stat that said that Moderna has, through this kind of secret research, has come up with the ability for mRNA to cure any disease. And it would take multiple injections over multiple years

to transform these proteins to solve these diseases and it could be applied to any disease and so fast forward to now well this elaine maru guy had funded the wuhan lab Bancel worked for him and again you tie that back to is it related? Maybe not but it's highly suspicious how much the Clinton Foundation, the Gates Foundation were intertwined and now you trace

this. So I think it's something people need to be aware of and they need to look further into it but I think the when you look at people for example at Harvard George Church being a big one who was behind the Human Genome Project he was also behind 23andMe and he was involved with Epstein at Harvard you have to wonder what is the morality behind these people what what kind of how what what parameters were they working within if if you have DARPA scientists involved with Epstein

who's behind all of this how could they be be incentivized go ahead i mean what are the chances that all these people are intermingled and are touching so many pivotal parts of this covid equation like wuhan lab moderna i mean in moderna too like whitney's come on here like moderna was just like a shell company essentially that wasn't really producing anything it's in a while lot like showed up and kovid saved its business as a producer mrna vaccine yeah and and so i also looked at okay what what could epstein have been in there's a lot of emphasis from you know the the media will touch on the human trafficking piece the pedophilia piece, probably less so on the human trafficking piece.

It's more on the, the, the pedophilia piece, but they somehow leave out that the, these people were trafficked to somebody. They somehow leave out all of these science and national security. That's enough. That's a, that was a big eye opener for me. Sandy Berger, Berger, Berger, however you pronounce his name. Clinton was Clinton's national security advisor, he was on Epstein's flight logs. So if you think the national, the NSA, you know, Snowden, and you think of how much they are,

they have access to every piece of data about you and everything. If you think Clinton's NSA advisor was on Epstein's plane, you have to think everything in our government, everything in institution after that could potentially be compromised because even an election how is how can you not consider that these things are manipulated now that you know this connection was made and so yeah go ahead i mean it's almost two grand of a scale for people to believe it like no it can't be true the government can't be fully entrenched with these types of people working against us they're supposed to be our friend yeah well i don't and that's something i would like to emphasize is so i'm roughly fifth generation military um i really took the the

oath to the constitution thing seriously uh if i were to align myself with somebody politically it might be Ron Paul or Thomas Massey. I don't really jump hard into herds of one sort or another, but I think that the wars that we're involved in are against what our founders intended. If you look back to the late 1700s, I'm sure you're aware that they were resistant to a central banking system well they were also resistant to a standing federal army and the two go together when you understand that wars are not generally won by you know some people will say you know who has the greater finances But it's really who can amass the resources in a more efficient manner, because a small nation or a small, I guess, entity could win against a greater entity if they're just, if they have better utilization of their resources, their logistics, their assets against the other one.

And so banking and wars go hand in hand. And, I mean, you can look at, you know, Britain and you can look at they, at least from what I recall, that's kind of where the perpetual annuities came from is their funding of the war. because they wanted to be able to sell this, I guess you can call it this stream of income to somebody for an investment for a rate of return, their interest on it, but they didn't want to have to pay off the debt. And so when you look back to that, and now you compare it to our government and you compare it to even our corporations, when a lot of the current returns in the market are based on the ability to leverage debt and we have interest rates declining that allows you to lever up more. Well, it's the same thing with our government. Our debt to GDP ratio

kind of depends on our government's ability to continually take out debt. And sure, I think that can work until it doesn't. And that was in my letter to Michael Crow. I addressed the topic of autarky because at some point in time, if we ever lose world reserve currency, we've now given up our manufacturing base to China. And it was evident when we couldn't make masks or ventilators that this is going to trickle into everything. So if the World Economic Forum, the IMF, if their direction they decide to go is changing that to maybe a neutral reserve currency,

that's really going to screw the U.S. And I don't think a lot of people realize that, but I do think that there's the potential that the CBDC that they intend on going with is more of a supranational type of direction as opposed to a nation holding world reserve currency. Yeah, the CBDC world is a very morbid and depressing future to think about and something that we should avoid at all costs. And for any of you freaks at home who are wondering what the hell is autarky,

all talk is basically just when you focus on making sure that you can make as many goods as possible within within your own borders correct yeah essentially being self-sustaining yeah self-sustaining and obviously the lockdowns and the supply chain crunch that haven't globally really acutely highlighted that that we are not self-sustaining and it seems like again going it seems like the intention is to make us less and less self-reliant so i like to focus on energy. It's been a main focus of mine for many years now, because it truly infuriates me that we have the incredible potential to be energy independent here in the United States. And you could argue at one point, beginning of Trump's presidency, we were energy independent. It's the

ability to pull oil and gas out of the ground via the shale revolution here in the United States. And we have completely been shooting ourselves in the foot time and time again and making ourselves less energy dependent and more dependent on oil from South America or coal from China or whatever it may be. Yeah, actually, that's kind of more when people claim that Trump is entirely involved in this. I don't I don't hold strong feelings one way or another, but as an objective analysis, trying to figure out, well, is he or is he not? I don't know, but I will say that his domestic energy production and his pulling from the Paris Climate Accords were two integral, I guess, methods of fighting back to whatever this World Economic Forum and Great Reset agendas push. because without relying on other nations for oil and energy and without the Paris Accords, a lot of this ESG stuff falls apart. And so was he in on it?

Was it technically? Was it all staged? I don't know. I try not to get into that. But I don't find it fruitful to argue whether or not Trump was a good guy or a bad guy. I think all politicians, I think all people in power have the potential to be corrupted. I think he's got some of his own history with Epstein that the public needs to know and hash out.

And to what extent, you know, I don't even know yet. Yeah, that's right. like thinking objectively like i really liked his energy policy i like to get tough on china because i do think we need to become less reliant on all of our shit here in the united states being imported from china mostly and i really like the fact that he brought he like worked with tsmc to bring a chip foundry to arizona where you are now because i think again that's another very centralized part of the global supply chain and computers obviously have become extremely important in our modern society and they will become more important moving forward

but then like also objectively started operation warp speed which led us to this this hastily rolled out vaccine vaccine um operation whatever you want to call it that that seems to be going pretty badly awry uh depending on who you talk to i mean if you look into it doesn't seemed to be working quite well uh and could potentially have some adverse effects but yeah objectively like there there were some good things there were some bad things but like you said like don't get bogged down whether or not he was a good or bad individual i think we should focus on the incentives of the system that these people are working within yes and and that was another thing that was evident to me in this executive emmy program was the we had we had

multiple executives come in and talk. And, you know, one of them I could tell was his heart was probably more towards a patriotic, you know, American. And he was stating, well, I don't really have a choice to be, you know, in order to stay competitive, I need to use China. And I just said, you know, that's where people need to look back at the incentive structures that were set up to force these things. And, and so we go back to Clinton admin, uh, we go back to, um, Kissinger, uh, Nixon and setting up the world trade organization, the most favored nation status. Um, and you know, we were sold on this, uh, we're going to bring, um, democracy to China, but instead we're importing their totalitarianism and you get people like larry fink of blackrock

who is saying markets prefer totalitarianism right markets are our democracy is messy yeah ray dalio coming out and saying we should we should bring china's uh prosperity for all theme to it to the united states as well that's where they always build yeah gates is another one so one of the um things that made me kind of shift my view was uh i'm being i don't want to say anti-china but concerned about china was uh more so looking at a lot of the executives in our country. And so if you look at the board of Xi's alma mater, Tsinghua University, the majority of our biggest corporation in banking executives are on the board of his alma mater. And okay, well, that's just relations. We're trying to, no. At some point, people need to

realize if you look at the incentives, you look at the outcomes, you have to consider that they don't actually have any loyalty to our nation. They don't actually have any loyalty to human rights, individual liberty. When you realize we went to war in the Middle East for trillions of While we left the Uyghur situation alone, and I say we as in the West establishment, you realize that it wasn't about human rights. It wasn't about creating democracy and a better world. It was about other things. And so what is the big driver in the Middle East? Well, I think if you still think it was 3,000 lives in the Twin Towers was the reason we needed to blow up the Middle East and build it, you know, nation build with all the infrastructure, I think you need to pull your head out of the sand.

Because trillions of dollars didn't bring us anything. And if you look back to kind of what I said earlier in the conversation, go ahead. It did bring us something. I mean, it brought us less civil liberties. We have the TSA now, we have dragnet surveillance, we have all these great things, we have all these incredible things. and i i like um if you look at that okay well that brought us that and you look at oh that was another one that i looked recently uh the 9-11 commission george bush tried to appoint kissinger and george mitchell both of these people direct involvement with epstein and i i just i thought this is this is crazy and so when you start looking at all of these these flight logs and you look at these events that occurred that you think were just random

occurrences that somehow stripped us of civil liberties individual and national sovereignty you have to like i said you have to look at okay well they're hanging out and associated with nefarious people and somehow their mistakes keep working in the establishment's favor it just doesn't add up and you know that's why i said i tried to chase trace back um through the generations if you look you know so you have isabel maxwell gillane sister who's on the you know technology pioneer for the world economic forum you have gillane maxwell who had this tara mar uh program or project uh well one of the guys on that uh larry cobbin who was in Obama's Department of Homeland Security, was one of the founders of this project.

How the hell does that happen? And he apparently, he's a Harvard attorney. He's the director of NRG Corporation, is into archaeology and climate change. And you look at so many of these UN SDG type of policies and buzzwords and you start tracing these ties well that taramar project save the oceans i mean it just amir dosso he was on her taramar project wasn't taramar wasn't like something you become like a a digital citizen yeah citizen of this yeah yes and so when you look at that too you know so now we're pushing this digital id thing with the vax id which is pushed through the world health organization so that'll be a global digital passport well she was kind of doing something similar with her ocean project digital global citizen um and

And so she had Amir Dassel on this board. Well, Amir Dassel, he has his own nonprofit called the Global Partnerships Forum. Well, the U.N. uses Amir Dassel to manage some of the COVID technology program stuff. Amir Dassel also was the guy that managed Ted Turner's billion dollar donation to the U.N. So when I see that, I think, okay, maybe these are coincidences. Well, then I also see that Amir Dassel was on the board of the Humpty Dumpty Institute with about 40 Democrats, and Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, was also on this board. So this guy is tied to both Jeffrey Epstein's brother and tied to Ghislaine's Taramar, and he's one of the high-up guys at the UN. So this is, again, kind of what started me down the path of, okay, well, there's a lot of UN involvement with the Epsteins and Maxwell stuff.

And then I figured out that there's a lot of Fourth Industrial Revolution tech with Jeffrey's interest in transhumanism. eugenics um malthusianism and uh artificial intelligence and so you go through klaus schwab's fourth industrial revolution book and his entire agenda with it epstein was involved with all that so again you know is it just coincidence i don't think so what my impression um based on And looking at a lot of the stuff that Epstein did, there was a 2012 doomsday conference that he held on his island. And I share this link a lot, and it's underappreciated in my view on what it represents. But he had this doomsday conference with all these scientists, a lot of them DARPA. Well, their agenda had said, well, what are the threats to humanity, you know, nanotechnology, global warming, climate change, and these different things, overpopulation was one of them.

And so when you realize, again, the virus, the lab, the ties with the Clinton Foundation, the science, energy, limits to growth, Club of Rome, UN, all these agendas in these NGOs, when you start tying them together, it almost looks like the entire Maxwell and Epstein operation were like a Manhattan project. that was set up with the virus as opposed to uh and it was uh the globalist versus humanity essentially as opposed to um the actual manhattan project which was the the chase with scientists for the atomic bomb and that was a nation versus nation agenda and when you look at Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad, being heavily involved with science literature, Pergamon Press and Macmillan Publishing, you realize a lot of his wealth had come from recruiting scientists to publish in his organization. And what occurred to me while I was in this grad program that if you really want to own scientists or own science, you just

need to own the science literature because that's what they all defer to. They look to the studies, they trust the studies. And most physicians, scientists, I, you know, I don't, these are good hearted people, but they're not going to listen to you if their medical journal they're reading from, tells them that everything is great. And so seeing the ties that, again, Epstein, Maxwell's, all of the Maxwell's, because it was Ghislaine, Isabel, Robert, they all had ties to this. And then they all have ties to science within the Clinton administration. And there's probably more, but that's where I honed in on the most, because that was some of the biggest triggers for me. So that's where I found the hard documentation of, okay, the Clinton Foundation

started, the flight logs with Clinton, the science departments within his admin, having these people involved, and then the UN. And so, but it goes back even further. I mean, you know, I found images of Bush with Bush senior with Robert Maxwell. Well, there's an FBI document that shows that they knew Robert Maxwell was a spy before that. So why would Bush senior have him in the white house? It doesn't make any sense. And go ahead. No, I got you. You finished. I've got, I've got some thoughts there. So when I started to realize that Gorbachev and Robert Maxwell had a $100 million joint science investment, it made me think that, okay, so Maxwell owns this scientific literature and can really change the trajectory of science. You look at Kissinger's involvement.

So Gorbachev had helped draft the Earth Charter for the Real Earth Summit. Gorbachev and Maurice Strong worked hand in hand. So you have Maurice Strong, Gorbachev, and Kissinger all working together. Well, Kissinger also drafted several overpopulation reports for our government. um they you know and i meant to look this up beforehand but i think the nsm 2000 or 200 and then there's like a hag kissinger report people need to look this stuff up i mean it's i've shared it on twitter so um they actually consider it as a national security issue so again tying back to nsa we had three nsa advisors that were involved with epstein or maxwell

the most current one anthony blinken his stepdad sam pizer was in epstein's black book and he was robert maxwell's attorney a current secretary of state who was previously an nsa advisor directly involved with robert maxwell supposedly the last person to see him alive that's mind-blowing to me what are the odds of all of these things these connections just randomly occurring and these people aren't aware of what maxwell's or epstein was up to i i i don't buy any of that no especially when you consider we will talk about larry summers and bill gates specifically i mean there's that that picture that goes around on we're all notorious picture now of those three or bill gates larry summers epstein and a couple

others i believe stanley boris nikolik and jess staley yes and that boris nikolik is significant because he was he was to my understanding i'm gonna forget this but he was uh intertwined with Melanie Walker. Melanie Walker married Steven Sinofsky, the C, what is he, the CTO for Microsoft, or was he the CEO, COO, I don't remember, one of the executives for Microsoft. Melanie Walker was introduced to Epstein in 92, supposedly at Trump's Tower. Well, Well, she then went on to med school and she, upon completion, apparently worked with Epstein as one of his scientists. And she then worked with Boris Nikolai. Well, she's also a Rockefeller University funded or excuse me, Rockefeller grant funded.

She wrote articles for the World Economic Forum, particularly about some of this Fourth Industrial Revolution medical technology type stuff. She was a Gates scientist. And she was on some Center for Public Impact, I think it was called. I'm forgetting the name. But their philosophy was the world government needs to be changed. It needs to be reimagined. Well, I don't know. That's what Klaus Schwab uses for words. so if you look at the ideology that she has you look at she was at world bank that's another one she worked directly for the president of world bank and you look at the the mentality that she had and the access to people that she had again this is alarming and go ahead we haven't even

touched on the young global leaders and oh yeah yeah well and that one started um again to my knowledge in 1993 and so you look at some of the people that went through the global young global leader program i think it was first called like global leaders of tomorrow um but it was you know a lot of the g i think all of the g g7 um leaders are all macron merkle uh trudeau jacinda yeah um well i don't think why i never found confirmation of justin trudeau was but his dad was a club of rome guy um padello castro yeah yeah well i mean if people i try to his dad was a club of rome guy yeah i try to encourage people to look into pierre trudeau because pierre it should be just as alarming. He was a club of Rome guy. And so if he had this mentality, again,

managing Earth's finite resources with all the inputs and outputs of the global economy, and you think back to like, how did communism fail in the past? Well, a lot of it failed because they didn't have the ability, or in their mind, didn't have the ability to track and manage perfectly all inputs and outputs in the economy. Well, what is Schwab and Crony's trying to implement the ability to do this and you know a good a guy that's been writing on this kind of alarmist for quite quite some time is patrick wood uh he wrote a book called stop technocracy um it's probably something that should get a little more light than it does because he he's he's up to speed on a lot of this stuff but um this technocratic mindset has is you know it's

going to hold decades and decades of history. But going back to the young global leader thing, that was, if you look at, like I said earlier, Kendi Ibram for critical race theory, Alicia Garza, you know, Black Lives Matter co-founder, you have Dan Crenshaw, which, you know they wiped him from that site is it because he's allegedly wasn't involved and and and so he requested that they take him down that was the story i had heard i i don't buy it um particularly when he's on video saying uh that's you know you know as soon as you start talking about a cabal that you know you sound like a conspiracy theorist that you know this evil cabal i don't i don't buy that and you know i i'm not really interested in what the world economic forum

really does in this great reset thing i looked at their website and you know oh that's what you're talking about bullshit dude i don't buy your eye patch fucking hero bullshit anymore i'm i'm so mad at that guy hey hey he's got an eye patch okay take it easy on him yeah great you know uh with his background he has the ability and fiduciary responsibility to actually research this stuff and understand it on behalf of his constituency and he hasn't and that I don't buy that it's bogus and if he went through their program which again I don't I don't have all the specifics on it but I understand it's about a five-year program it's it's virtually impossible for him to not grasp what's actually happened um which means he's a traitor i don't know how to put it well

let's run with the assumption and i think we would both agree that it probably is true that all this interconnectedness uh whether it be un affiliated global banking system affiliated politically affiliated web of nefarious people are acting in coordination to bring about a certain outcome on this planet that does not bode well for the common man, the average citizen who wants to live free and live as an individual and dictate the course of their lives in a grassroots fashion. what would you or what do you believe is a solution to fighting back against these bad actors i mean if what we're describing is is a scale that is almost incomprehensible to most people again most people are going to look at this and be like no it's not true and it's just

like a a inability to believe that it could be true like no it couldn't be true my whole life going to be run by the this cabal of people that is working together to to force certain outcomes on my life i have control of my life these people don't it's not their problem uh they're not causing these problems um how do we because i i do i'll just say it i think that these people are coordinating to bring about a global digital panopticon i think it's pretty obvious um and they own the media they own the banking system and they sit on many of the boards of uh many of the major corporations that are pushing esg i do think that they are fully entrenched in in a lot of the institutions that run our world what's a yeah what's our solution here

so you mentioned um a lot of things there so you look at uh the media well that was a rabbit hole i went down to uh how could the founder of cnn donate a billion dollars to the un and have glaine maxwell's partner be the manager for it i think time frames on there maybe he wasn't yet either way it's still okay well he's in this network so it doesn't add up um and again i go back to the ted turner that's what it was on videos essentially saying overpopulation and climate change you know too many people using too much i think you said we need 900 billion 900 million people you need to limit it to like 900 million people yeah something like that um you know so you look at this mindset okay do i think that the virus itself or the vaccine

are meant to bring about the depopulation or population management? I don't. But I think it's laying the framework for that potential in the future, whether it's they control our immune systems through periodic compulsory injections. When you look at how they want to manage the economy. They want to manage people's immune systems and human evolution in a similar manner. They think that they can affect all of this and control it. I vehemently disagree with everything that Bill Gates represents. I think he's a psychopath. path. And he unfortunately owns or essentially owns the World Health Organization. You know, to any nation, he's the biggest donor. I think when Trump pulled out the U.S., I think he was

the biggest donor. I'd have to look back and fact check that. Either way, massive influence. When you look into the media, so that was CNN. Additionally, CNN, Zucker, who was just ousted, His wife was pictured multiple times with Ghislaine. CNN had Ghislaine on their show. They had Harvey Weinstein. They were quite involved with him. And then there was that Toobin guy who got caught masturbating on Zoom. He's back.

He's back. Oh, yeah. How do these things keep happening? I don't think they're coincident, but that's CNN. And I don't mean to pick on them, because you look at even Fox News, you have Rupert Murdoch was pictured with Ghislaine. Rupert Murdoch was in Epstein's Black Book. Robert Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch were kind of competitors. Maxwell apparently envied Murdoch and was trying to, I guess, compete with him. and so you look at okay well media ties government ties finance uh science i mean this guy was

involved in everything and in you have to again you have to wonder are our own fbi and cia completely freaking inept are they are they incompetent that they couldn't see all this oh i don't buy it they were involved to what degree i don't know i mean so i talked about this book last week with dave column and again freaks if you haven't read it yet go read the devil's chess book or the devil's uh chess board to read that the cia was founded by satanist and nazis that that were very very much enamored with psychological operations and eugenics i think it's it's it's a fact like again you can go back and fact check these like alan duels was an avowed satanist they they brought

in nazis uh there's enough freedom of information there's time enough time has elapsed that you can use the freedom of information act to learn about mk ultra operation paperclip operation mockingbird like these things are out in the open yeah and in was it was it rockefeller um it was it was he was the secretary of state for truman and truman signed the the nsa act which is 1947 and and that gave birth to the um the cia if i remember correctly um so again You look at the Rockefellers. That's another one. I'm sorry to go all over the board here, but it's hard to tell this in a story succinctly and consecutively for people. So, you know, so we'll say we'll go to this contemporary issue with Rockefeller. So. Rockefeller was behind the Operation Lockstep in 2010.

The planner for that was Peter Schwartz, a futurologist, if you want to call him. Well, Salesforce. Mark Benioff hired him. mark benioff sits on the board of world economic forum mark benioff is on lynn rothschild's inclusive capitalism council and this is salesforce who made his billions off of software as a service and now we see vaccines as a service being rolled out and so you have a a subscription program for your immunity for the rest of your life is what it's appearing to be and i don't even have to have a science background to say well it appears that way we're on booster four or five or wherever the hell we're going with

this thing and they want to roll out um what is it like they want to do the flu shot the um They're coming out with an HIV vaccine, too. HIV, flu shot. God, I just read on this. I think I have it handy here. Yeah, maybe I don't have it handy. But anyway, yeah, they essentially want to do this with all the disease. And if they're going to tie it to your vaccine passport and then your central bank digital currency,

with some kind of social credit scoring system that's going to be able to dictate what you can or cannot do, your ability to access capital, take out loans, conduct commerce. I mean, if all of this is going to be tied to your compliance or conformity to their system, what do you do to combat it? Well, number one, you have to understand their evil. okay i think we've established at least some of that i can go much deeper into it but you have to understand they're evil okay well they're evil and you have to understand that they've been at this for decades if not centuries but we'll say decades you have to understand they've had the ability to perfect their craft of warfare through multiple wars um and you know whether it's

as you mentioned psychological warfare or um you know their their their systems um what is it called uh the systems i forget the name of it but a lot of technocracy is being able to set up systems And Jacques Allou, you could look at his technique, I think he called it. But when I go back to that, I just think, are we ran by the machine or do we run the machine? Well, it's becoming apparent that the World Economic Forum with the Stakeholder Capitalism, ESG, Sustainability Accounting Standards Board, they're setting up the ability to bypass your electoral representation with your boat and with your wallet. So if you can't affect change in your life any longer with either your ballot at the voting booth or you're taking your capital elsewhere, I don't know. I do push localism, decentralization, decentralized concepts.

And I know the Bitcoin community absolutely promotes these things. um you could go down into avenues of well again they've perfected warfare for you know decades if not centuries and and so how are they going to leverage their finance and um these dystopian um you know as you call the digital panopticon how are they going to leverage this against people to uh try to live off the grid or live off their systems i mean i think you need to expect to everything they're going to come at you with the full force of the the national security apparatus and you know you look at like the january 6th thing i'm sorry i don't care what your political views are if you look at that and you can't at least consider the possibility that

hey this is there there's some staged actions in this it's not organic um there's something more to it than just a bunch of pissed off uh you know populists trying to you know i guess uh find some kind of legitimacy in their voting system if you can't consider that hey they're they're leveraging that to strip more freedoms away i don't know how i don't know how you combat these things. It's, this is why when I, when I started my Twitter thread back in August of 2020, it was, it was kind of like, I, I'm exasperated. I don't know what else to do because I don't care if I could go be an executive for some domestic medical manufacturing corporation. I could probably do well for myself, but I'm not going to be under the thumb of some

ESG stakeholder capitalism Klaus Schwab dipshit that wants to force me to force injections upon people or whatever it is. I didn't sign up for the army in 2002, whatever it was, a year after 9-11. I didn't do that because I wanted to support the U.S. establishment military industrial complex machine people need to understand that again our founders didn't intend for that our founders didn't intend to chase hegemony they intended to preserve individualism individual liberty and and so when you when you look at this machine um that's not something i ever intended to support but i did and so i went through almost like a grieving process of understanding like hey the the U.S. military is not really serving the Constitution. And so how do you attack these

things? Well, as you stated in a long question, and you're getting back a long answer that's really not answering it, is the only thing I could think to do was start explaining this to people. And I thought, you know, maybe people just need to understand it, at least understand the evil behind it to motivate them to do things like the truckers rally in Canada, which going back to the constitution, defending the constitution again, you know, maybe it's insulting to some of my veteran friends, but the Canadian truckers have done more to defend the United States Constitution than any contemporary veteran. And that sounds insulting, but it's true. Because they're fighting for individual liberty, your individual rights, your civil liberties,

your ability to have your own autonomy, your own agency against this machine. And again, our founders didn't intend on having this machine. They were opposed to it. And so So the machine has taken over, and it's running us as opposed to us running the machine. And Alul is the guy that kind of explains a lot of that. I'm a big 40,000-foot guy. I don't remember a lot of details about a lot of these books I read and avenues I go down. I try to look at my framing of the entire world, and I think that given my time in the military and understanding how they structure your clearances, they do it in a manner in which you only get access to information you need to know at your level for the purpose you need to know it for. But they intentionally separate you from being able to understand the grander operation by separating your ability to know what the other guy is doing.

And so when you look at that and everything that's occurring, well, the World Economic Forum right now is king of the castle. They've got access to all of these experts in all of these different fields, whether it's finance, science, you name it, everything. They have access to all of these experts and they have for decades. And they're weaponizing that against all of us. And, you know, you and I can talk from our limited levels of expertise. Maybe, you know, I flew helicopters, I did army stuff, I ran small businesses, I have some finance understanding. You know, I have some limited level, but I don't understand science. So I can't refute what, you know, the CDC is saying, other than I can find some inconsistencies in what they say, but I don't have the ability to do that. Well, Klaus Schwab and cronies, they have the ability to access all of this, and they have the ability to know all areas of all of this, and they can leverage that against all of us.

And that's kind of what's happening. That's the way I see it. So I think I think, you know, the Bitcoin community and I own Bitcoin, by the way, but in and have since 17, which I also when I started speaking about this stuff, I was sim swapped. You could probably find, yeah, Caitlin Long invited me to testify to the Wyoming legislature on the tech, Telco's ability to, I guess, limit some of this stuff and maybe some of their liability. So I did that. You could probably find my testimony out there somewhere. but um the when i started speaking out about all this stuff and i can't help but consider the potential that these were related as this sim swap okay well the phone company uh tells them tells me allegedly they had my um they had my driver's license that's bullshit i never lost it okay so if they didn't have my driver's license they got access to this and now they then they got my apple id and my google id and my microsoft and you know they went through the chain and so

yeah, I've been in that community for a while. I don't talk about it that much because it's not that I don't think it's a solution. It can be incorporated as part of the solution. But I also think that people need to understand that they need to fight back at the local level, because that's where the UN is really driving this Agenda 21. They've infiltrated cities at the local county, city, state level. And that was because, again, my understanding is Congress has never actually signed on or with Agenda 21, but they bypass it by going directly to cities, city leaders, mayors. And this is something that the World Economic Forum has done as well. Even Phoenix Mayor, I forget her name, but she was a young global leader. And so

i think that it's imperative that people understand this and you know again i went to twitter because i was thinking you know maybe maybe i can link up with people that will be able to you know use their ingenuity to come up with ways to fight back i don't know i do have as i mentioned before we started recording i have a few ideas um but um you know And at some point, you know, when I find the right people within probably the decentralized, you know, blockchain, crypto, Bitcoin community that we can help come up with ways, I don't know. But I think you have to expect, you know, they're going to come after Bitcoin with either like a unrealized capitalized gains tax, AML, KYC. They're going to track everything. I appreciate that there are efforts. People are fighting some of the ways already and anticipating some of the ways that I think the national security apparatus, the Fed, the Black Rocks, the WEF, that they're going to be trying to fight. But it is going to be a fight. And, you know, we went from nation versus nation, red versus blue, all of these, I guess, dialectics that people use for conquer and divide or divide and conquer.

And now we're going to be facing more of a battle between the globalists and humanity. I don't know how else to view that. So getting involved locally, pushing back organically at the grassroots level, I think that has to occur. This Trudeau banning the honking of horns, they're showing their fans. And I think that's going to help wake up some more people. um but you know even historically like if you look at resistance from different um levels of any conflict it's it's it's it's a a fraction of the total population that actually fights back not everybody is going to get involved um and you know that was part of my battle too is just

accepting that it doesn't matter what information i show these people uh it's like it's like in the movie the matrix when he sees the woman with the red dress walk by and and uh what's his name pulls the gun in his face um and neil sees the the woman and it's explained to him hey these people are part of the system and they're your enemy until they're essentially awoken to what the matrix is and that's kind of what we're living through is is you know you have the black Lives Matter people that, you know, I understand their socioeconomic pain. I mean, a lot of it, I think, is, you know, Fed driven. You know, you screwed our nation and ability to improve people's lives by printing money, evaluating our currency. And instead of accepting,

acknowledging and educating people on that, you instead convinced them that systemic racism is the issue. How many people that claim systemic racism is the issue fully understand the Fed? How many people that even this Epstein shit, how many of them that are pushing how terrible Ghislaine and Epstein were, how many of them are still promoting Me Too? When you understand that me too was a world economic forum crony driven uh agenda like somehow we got to wake people up to understand that you're being manipulated yeah yeah i mean i love her to death this morning my wife and i were facetiming my mother-in-law with our son and morning facetime and explain we're gonna see joe rogan show tonight he's playing down the street here uh we're gonna go see his

stand-up my wife and i and a couple friends and uh he mentioned that to her she's like oh oh like just like immediately like viscerally reacting like oh he's a bad he's a he's a bad person like i hope you aren't supporting the truckers too it was like her line it was like oh my god like are you kidding me like yes i am supporting the truckers but i do think even though my mother-in-law and I love you to death, Maggie, uh, the, it doesn't seem to be awake yet. Uh, it was one of those people stuck in the matrix. I do think what's going on in Canada specifically right now is waking a lot of people up, especially if you're able to see, and that's the thing she's in her seventies. She's not seeing the videos on Twitter of, of, of Sikhs, uh,

indigenous people, white people, black people getting together and, and literally having the most peaceful protests. Only Canadians could do this. The French would be unable to do this here in the United States. We'd probably be unable to do it. Thank God we have our, our very polite and put together friends, uh, on our, above our Northern border in Canada doing this and leading this charge, because I think they're saying, uh, they're, they're really doing it in a way in which it's really hard to attack them because they're being extremely peaceful. And the only way to attack them is just pure gaslighting from justin trudeau where he's just like overtly lying that it's like all nazis i'm a fringe minority which and certainly does not seem to be the case that

the the people walking around with empty gas cans just really got me right but i and it's emboldening people i mean you're seeing trucker protests pop up in new zealand germany netherlands all over the place there's talks of it happening here in the united states but i do think i mean and the financial system too is at a point where it is it's not going to end well that was part of my logic again this pin thread that i talked about that was kind of my my trying to assess and assimilate everything that's happening in the world and how does it come together well you know i have a great reset or global reset sub thread tied to it and in that um i talked about the imfs um but they came out with a report that talked about uh negative

interest rate uh policy and you know you look at okay well our debt debt to gdp ratio um the highest it's ever been by large margin. And then you have, um, the tax revenues based on, uh, you know, corporations surviving, but then so much of our past 40 years of declining interest rates contributed to the ability for corporations to expand their leverage, which, you know, financialization of our, of our economy, as opposed to investment in, in PPE and R and D. Um, and it's not a, uh, sustainable, I hate to use that word, but it's not a sustainable way to improve our economy and, and be able to, um, I guess, um, create jobs, create progress, whatever you want to call it.

And instead, it's kind of been almost like a leveraged buyout of our country that was brokered by the World Economic Forum, profiting on the sale of our manufacturing and our core to China. And instead they're, they're implementing and imposing the, the systems that they've seemingly perfected in China with the, the CCP's, um, yeah. Yeah, and so you look at the Uyghur slaves and then you look at just how they're utilizing 5G with the ability to monitor everything, like a biosurveillance state that is being structured there is also going to be implemented here, but you're going to tie it to, you know, vaccines and your health policy and your conformity to these metrics. Meanwhile, you start looking at the cities that have the most surveillance cameras set up. We're implementing that everywhere. And the Belt and Road Initiative had been using a lot of these smaller countries to implement these systems in

their countries so with with that's the other thing merkel germany um and some of these other countries the these leaders using huawei you know again going back to trump china world economic forum pushing back against the globalists seeing where you know how much influence china has on the world health organization it kind of made me wonder okay well is their intent to take to to implement some kind of china style cbdc at the imf level globally and if that happens you know i don't know do we go back to to bartering with you know gold and silver and in groceries you know like we're not going to survive people aren't no i mean this is why bitcoin is an imperative in my mind. We just need to continue further distributing the Bitcoin network,

whether it be at a hash rate level, making sure that the mining of Bitcoin is geographically distributed and the ownership of that hash rate is distributed as well between as many individuals and companies as possible. We need as many nodes being run around the world and we need to begin or continue to educate people about Bitcoin, the power of Bitcoin, how it can be a tool to fight back against the encroaching nefariousness that we've been describing

throughout this whole conversation. And then go from there, keep building these parallel systems that allow us to just look at what they're building and say, I don't want any part of that. I'm going to go live and work and operate within this one. and i think it's all like it is everything that we've been discussing is a bit daunting it's a

bit scary but i do think they're slipping up like you just look at them they look like drones they look like puppets they look like they're sociopathic lifeless uh motionless drones that are pushing us i think people are beginning to wake up to the fact that these people are this way they're not really human like you and i are in the sense that they have empathy for other people and they actually care uh they they just seem like corporate despotic shills that are doing the bidding of of the maxwells and the gates and the power players of the world that may have stemmed from something like the club of rome or the world economic forum yeah and you know do we as people and this is why again i i thought my best solution was to try to get the information

out there was do we as people accept that the ruling class is benevolent if they have these intentions of even if you want to believe climate change and you want to believe um you know they they're they're just inept and they're actually pushing these agendas do you want to give them the power to be able to screw up things even worse for you in the future i just i don't know how you look at okay well all these associations you know al gore on on And, you know, he's named by Virginia Dufresne and Epstein's Island. This guy is on the World Economic Forum's board of trustees. He was Clinton's vice president.

And he's one of these Club of Rome climate change pushers. You know, how do we associate all of these people that are pushing these things and not consider the possibility that they would do something awful, like maybe deliberately plant a virus? Or whatever it is, you know, population control via compulsory injections in the future. I have no idea. You know, you can look to the sci-fi movies to decide how bad this could really get. All I can say is, if you just boil it down to these people are evil, do we want to give them more power? But somehow you got to get people to understand all this. Yeah.

You have to wake up and spell the roses and realize. it's not people of power conspire to do certain things that's like conspiracy theorists is one of the most effective gaslighting yes verbal mechanisms that has ever ever existed you're a conspiracy theorist you have theories that people conspire to do things like yeah exactly why is that crazy why is it crazy to think that that people exactly conspire what is it what does the word conspire mean like let's just break it down and and like you can freedom of information act that too that was implemented by the fbi to distract people yes intentionally and and there is a there is something out there i would have to chase it down but now that brings that to

attention that that supposedly the this ideally ideology with the climate anthropogenic climate change agenda was uh implemented for the sole purpose of implementing this global governments not not because they cared about the environment or any of this yeah and there's the i forget what bill they just passed whatever it was the infrastructure bill i mean 2026 you know what you you have to have a kill switch in every car that's created oh we're gonna we're gonna justify that via climate change but it's really yes exactly

no more honk honking in Ottawa if Justin Trudeau can from his bomb shelter wherever he's hiding right now just hit a button kill switch every car how did our dictators end up being pansies

couldn't we at least have some evil like could you have oh yeah because you have like yeah you can't wait to live in a time

of weak men and that's why I think they're ultimately going to be unsuccessful is because they have a bunch of fucking idiots

and weak men and pansies trying to implement their their plans even Klaus Schwab like he's getting to a point

where everybody's like who the fuck are you like why are you telling us what to do why are you telling me I'm not going to own anything and I'm going to be

happy by 2030 why you keep telling me to eat bugs why are you talking about a cyber pandemic yeah that's another one well so and that was one i tweeted about too is is the fbi went to his cyber whatever the cyber warfare thing the cyber polygon yeah cyber polygon event and i saw that fbi director ray was there at the same time that there was even if you again you don't buy that

there was any kind of election interference or or you know biden legitimately got 81 million votes or whatever, whatever you believe most popular president in human history. Yeah. If you believe that, that's fine. But if you can't consider, wait a minute, why, why is director Ray, the FBI, why is he going to this cyber polygon event to talk about the potential cyber warfare literally just days after this supposed election interference? Like, wouldn't, wouldn't you think your priority would everything would be focused on this election interference yeah in the documents supporting the fourth industrial revolution and great reset wouldn't you think that number one it's weird that he went to this event that supports this but wouldn't you think

it's also maybe priorities should be on just confirming the legitimacy legitimacy of the election to allay people's concerns about the potential interference yeah and think of the inherent contradiction there too like hey i'm here at this cyber polygon event which is essentially admitting that the the world is susceptible to mass techno technological manipulation but there's no way that happened in the election to just let it a few days ago it's laughable because again it's all out in the open like they think maybe most people are stupid and they just rely on that yeah well you know i have a cousin who's double vaccinated and boosted who's a week into covid and he's having a rough time really rough time 105 degree temp and went

in the hospital good guy and you know you know we talked and and you know he he he had said that hey you know i think um you know i did i did the right things i did what i was supposed to and this shouldn't be happening and and i just you know hey you know you know it's hard to not uh launch into everything we've just discussed and try to explain all that um you know by the way it might be biowarfare and it might be you know it's hard to not just go into all that you know i want to go full i want to go full out that they're demonic you're being controlled by demons and again going back to that like you know biden's biden's uh chief uh science advisor uh lander just resigned and it was over probably sexual harassment or something whatever the hell it was

But he he was an Epstein dude. And that's, you know, it's not just him. There was Gail Smith, who was a vaccine ambassador or whatever, whatever her position is. Gail Smith. She was a previous CIA person in Africa. Well, she was a vaccine diplomacy. She was on Epstein's flights. And that's why I'm like, hey, people, maybe this whole Epstein thing isn't just sex, pedophilia, human trafficking. Maybe there's something more nefarious here. Maybe you need to look at why was he involved in so much banking, currency, science, particularly DARPA science, and also eugenics, transhumanism, AI, all of this fourth industrial revolution type science. with everything that's occurring there's clearly some kind of connection yeah and and they're

trying to wipe it under the carpet i mean he uh he suicided himself with uh with paper thin sheets and then his his madame his partner in crime jeslene maxwell we can't have any media covering her trial uh we're not all right we'll say that she's guilty but we won't uh we won't dare go down the path of of trying to figure out who she was doing business with who she was uh feeding underage individuals too yeah no yeah she's she has hundreds of clients we're just not gonna dig into who they are and why they were and again you you look at the you look at the black book you look at the flight logs and you look at the the pattern of people tony blair He was a club of Rome guy or was a Fabian Society, one of the two.

But they're into this this shit. And then you have. Who's another one I was trying to think of? I can't. Oh, Bloomberg. He was in that in that black book. And he's he's pushing a lot of this SASB stuff. And and then you have the royalty. Well, they came up with this Terra Carta, which is some kind of earth-worshipping constitution type of thing. I don't know what the hell it is. I haven't spent a significant time in it, but it sounds like Terramar, if you ask me. You know, see, I don't know how people keep ignoring all of this stuff because it's so blatant to me that there's clearly some kind of, at a minimum, some kind of national security some kind of espionage some kind of science and it's all

related to everything that's occurring and in the the fbi is not going to do it because they have some kind of involvement the cia isn't same thing the the royalty you know the royal family's not because they're clearly involved and you know and then so you get that's the other thing i don't i haven't uh pegged yet is is there's a lot of israeli massad ties to this and robert maxwell that's who he was working for correct well and uh and mi6 so which where did he have loyalty well maybe he didn't have loyalty to any and that that was that's more of where i still kind of think uh and and what i mean by that is here's an unprincipled person willing to do all this stuff that he's willing to do. Maybe he has an ideology with some of these, the Fabian Society,

the Club of Rome people, and maybe it's that they're conspiring outside of governments, nations, or faiths, and maybe that's where this is, the genesis of it is. I don't know, but there is clearly Israeli-Massad ties. There is MI6 ties. There is CIA ties. and NSA, FBI. So when you look at all of these things, oh, and Australia too, I mean, there's loads of ties in that as well. So when you look at this, it's impossible, impossible to ignore that there's something bigger there than just child trafficking. And that's not to belittle the victims that have gone through this. It's just that the blackmail was used for something and to not consider that it's playing into current events is is asinine yeah it's naive asinine

completely stupid and to seek answers about this i think you have to come to podcasts like this you're not going to find it on cnn you're not going to find it on fox news they're going to not going to find it on msnbc probably not even going to find it on rogan anymore although isn't he being tempted by rumble then they put out some kind of million dollar we'll see we'll see uh i'm not holding my breath on that i think he's i think spotify might get pressured to kick him off and hopefully comes to podcasting 2.0 which is enabled by bitcoin um like so if people are going to listen to this show that we're recording right now when we put it on our rss feed and they're going to be able to send us bits of

bitcoin per minute listen they could tip us some bitcoin and go straight to a wallet that i control on a computer that i own um and hypothetically if we wanted to if you had a bitcoin uh lightning network address which is the second layer on top of bitcoin i can plug it in to this episode and they could stream usats directly too and say hey i want to send jesse 50 of the bitcoin it comes through on this episode that's stuff i gotta learn about um like i said i i i learned a A lot of what I learned about the Bitcoin community was back in the 2017 time frame, that SIM swapping issue. When I went through that, I mean, I'll tell you when I was going through it, I knew what I knew what was happening when it was happening, too. So I was on the other line with my bank on a different phone trying to freeze that.

And then I transferred a lot of my I mean, I market sold and transferred a lot of what I had into my bank. So it was a wire transfer. But I'm still, you know, what am I, a year? I forget how long it's been, but after the effect and I'm even this morning, I can't access my other computer that I was going to set aside for notes because I don't remember my Microsoft password that I've changed 1700 times since then and have two factor authentication and all this shit set up so that I can try and avoid getting robbed again. And when it happened, I wanted to sit in my living room with a pile of guns, ammo and gold and silver and cash and not talk to anybody ever again because I was so freaked out. And so since then, people have kind of forwarded me some solutions for that as well. So but yes, people don't keep your seeds, which I didn't. Don't keep your seeds to your two factor authentication in your your email. don't have it digitally anywhere have that shit not like i did in a cupboard uh you know or a safe or something write it down um and that was probably the thing that would have saved me with everything

because they rifled through you know like i said all my accounts everything they froze me out of it instantaneously um and then they threatened me fuck those people yeah get your bitcoin off the exchanges and the cold storage yes it's imperative because they're gonna they're gonna not allow you to take your bitcoin off exchanges at some point in the future and be careful too they're going to use that kyc aml to pinpoint uh hey we we are pretty sure that you on this address that you send the bitcoin to from the exchange uh and at that point they could try to intimidate you with guns and pressure to pay your unrealized capital gains tax whatever they're going to institute. But I think the lesson to take from this episode is these people are

crazy. They're psychotic. They're evil. They do not care about you. They want you ushered into a digital panopticon. They're working aggressively in a very coordinated fashion across the world to do this. They're going to use psychological operations to gaslight you into thinking that uh bitcoiners are bad truckers are bad joe rogan's bad all this stuff but do your own research rise above the the psychological operation that's being waged on you and fight back tell these people to go back to hell where they came from yeah jesse i hope to see you on twitter again soon yeah well we'll see like i said i i'm a little little miff that uh they did that and now i'm deciding well maybe i need to find some other

avenue what that is yet i don't know yet hey uh bill gates says in a ted talk that he thinks we need to to kill one or two billion people via vaccinations or something like that lower the population uh in 2012 or 2015 whenever he did that he's fine he's oh yeah that was that was the good club in 2009 these these club of rome billionaires met in 2009 to talk about overpopulation and then three years later Epstein had a bunch of scientists DARPA scientists on his island to talk about overpopulation

they're obsessed with with lowering the population which is weird just a bit weird in and of itself especially if you consider if overpopulation did happen you would assume that none of them would care because they'd be dead by the time that the world

rid itself of all its resources They don't care about overpopulation. I mean, they do. I think they care about control. Well, I would say if you're really trying to go down the sci-fi route, there's a document out there for human augmentation from the UK. There's documentation on biodigital convergence from the Canada government. There's the NBIC, so nanotechnology, biotechnology, information technology,

and Cognitive Sciences, I forget, MBIC, but that's the United States version. You can go back to Clinton administration. He started funding a lot of that shit around the same time that they found this God gene and started funding this human genome program, which Epstein's friend, George Church, has grants from DARPA and he's working with China. And right in the human genome project documentation says something along the lines of coming up with methodology to bypass human

consent to advance science and I'm like well that's strange particularly when it's China and he's getting these grants and he's involved with Epstein I mean the shit is so crazy yeah and it's happening

yeah it is it is and another one Disney and and so this is why i think a lot of the like the the q stuff um there's a lot of directionally accurate things with it but you have to consider that it was either either it was genuine initially and and these people were on to something and it was maybe hijacked and and taken down a conspiracy i don't think i don't think it was hijacked i think it was a psyop the whole time they were like let's just create this get a bunch of people believing this like

it'll get dragged along now we can discredit them yes and discredit this entire anybody investigating this stuff um and you know so now you see that you know some of the the the establishment is calling these people gqp uh anybody that brings up anything epstein related Well, you know, the Doug Band, that was Clinton's attorney. He even went out and he was saying, hey, Clinton's dirty. Well, Doug Band was on like 12 flights and Doug Band played a role in establishing the Clinton Foundation, which Epstein also did, too, which means Doug Band worked with Epstein to be able to establish this. And so where do you find truth in all this shit? Well, Bob Iger, uh, who was the CEO of Disney, he was on, uh, the PCAST. So again, the science, whatever foundation or arm of, of, of our government. Um, well, Bob Iger, CEO of Disney, Disney owns ABC. ABC is the one that shut down with that, uh, Amy, Amy Robach, uh, project video that came out.

Yeah. ABC is part of the people that shut that down, along with, according to Amy Robach, the Crown. So you go to the CEO of Disney. He worked, I want to say it was his father, worked under Robert Maxwell's Macmillan Publishing. But he appointed Robert Cook as chairman three days after Robert Cook was on Epstein's plane. well additionally Bob Iger named his kid Robert Maxwell that's weird weird

very weird there's a lot of weird things going on Jesse we're conspiracy theorists you know we're discredited so whether it's your media I'm happy to be a conspiracy theorist by the way because I admit that men and women of power conspire to do things and if you don't

believe that you are keep hammering that you were mentally defective yeah and then you got micah brzezinski of nbc who's the daughter of how do you even say his name she's on morning joe right yeah it was a zebanoff uh brzezinski i don't know how to pronounce his name but he was um he he was a A trilateral guy, trilateral commission. So when you look at, oh, Norman Dodd, this is one, you know, I shared this video many times, but people should look at this guy. So Norman Dodd had investigated a lot of these, these like NGOs, these nonprofits and Rockefellers and whatnot. And he basically concluded, like, hey, you know, they're infiltrating our institutions and trying to take over our education system and subvert our democracy, our constitutional republic, through using these entities outside. And, you know, they tried to shut him down by calling him anti-Semitic.

And he was essentially saying, hey, Rockefellers are involved with this. and so this has been going on a long time Rockefeller was the founder of Trilateral Commission supposedly has involvement with Club of Rome and counts on

foreign relations most people don't even know what the hell any of these are somebody who works in oil and gas now to a certain extent it's a big shame I wonder how the Rockefellers got this way because John Dewe or Rockefeller like finding kerosene and bringing like the the oil revolution to north america is a very valuable

part to human history in the sense that he helped bring about in the modern society that we have today by bringing about uh hydrocarbons that are dense and allowing us to get to a point where we can have combustible engines and stuff like that like i wonder he did all the hard work built this up and then his family just get weak and weak and weak and they don't have any ability themselves to be as innovative and ingenious as their ancestor was. You know, it was something that you, I don't remember if it was you that said it on one of your shows that I listened to. You're using something that I kind of try to relate to people.

These people, they're not elites. Quit calling them elites. They're parasites. And they didn't get there through merit and innovation. They got there through, you know, the Cantillon effect, money printing. They, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're not there. I think that was Michael Krieger, but I did retweet him. Might've been Michael. Yeah.

I think it was Michael. I mean, that's, that's essentially it. They're parasites, but you have to look at Rockefeller additionally played a role with the Nazi eugenics program funding some of it. I can't remember exactly right now the details on it, but he was a eugenicist. And so, again, you know, how much of our history do people not know or understand? And they certainly don't question. That's part of the problem.

I'm very anti-authoritarian, very I don't fit in a box, never have. It's surprising that I ever made it in the military. I think it was just because it was a passion of mine and certainly not, you know, to become an officer. I will say that I definitely got along with the enlisted class more than I did the officer class because I refused to just, you know, shut up and blindly comply and salute the flag. I was kind of a pain in their ass. But but I performed and my unit performed and we did what we needed to. And but, you know, I was proud of myself that, you know. I came from enlisted, I came from a poor rural community and, you know, maybe that's part of why I don't have a ton of ambition to to run a an establishment corporate operation. And I kind of, you know, want to develop ways to fight back against this and give the tools to the plebs to, you know, make a better life for themselves as opposed to being manipulated and exploited so much. It's crazy to me to watch this.

And that was, you know, in that drag program, they were hammering this, you know, diversity and inclusion stuff. And we were talking about systemic racism. And I just rolled my eyes and I raised my hand and I'm like, look, you know, I came from a rough childhood. I came from a poor community, blue collar family, and I certainly didn't have a silver spoon. And I got along a lot better with my black battle buddies and basic training and my military training than I ever got along with the silver spoon white friends or acquaintances that I grew up with. And it had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with class, socioeconomic background. And, you know, it's funny, you know, when I said that, you know, first, you know, some of the people in the class, well, hey, maybe there's reasons X, Y, Z, but there's still systemic racism. After the class, a guy, a classmate of mine from India came up to me and he said, Jesse, I think you're right.

I really think the system kind of manipulates people and it's just crazy to watch this. Yeah. I mean, it's classic divide and conquer, like we've been saying. They want you to look like a racist if you say that Black Lives Matter is a Marxist institution that doesn't really care about black lives

at the end of the day, which I wholeheartedly believe. I think I know it to be true. And that's the thing. And it's completely racist to say that, and it's not only racist, but demeaning to to lump like all white people in as as one race and all black people in as as another reason and completely discredit any individuality of the individuals within those

groups that they can that they create i think it's the meaning and it's racist to say like all black people are one way all white people are one way like no we're all individuals it's interesting people going to quake you know justin trudeau coming out and saying well this is a racist driven uh and in white supremacist driven uh convoy and he's saying that based on a few individuals allegedly doing something they're definitely agent provocateurs i would imagine as well yeah which is probably likely and but people aren't looking at that and saying wait a wait a minute, you're labeling this entire group as white supremacists or whatever nonsense that he says, but you don't look at the whole,

well, all police are, what do they call it, the ACAB. ACAB, all cops are bad. Yeah, all cops are bad or whatever, bastards, whatever it's supposed to be, I don't know. And you look at that and you, why don't you see the inconsistency here, contradictions it just i don't know what goes through these people these people's heads and and that's why i struggle like how do you convince these people that they're being manipulated right well that's uh i had tucker max on a few weeks ago and i think

wait for him i don't think you're ever going to convince them but maybe you can ask them questions that would lead them to convince themselves particularly with covid and the lockdowns it's like all right what would what is the line where you stop getting boosted you stop putting the mask on like what do you need to see um for for you to stop violating yourself essentially yeah you don't put it that way what is it what would like what do you need to see to to go back to normal and then they when is there an end to it and then they think like i've never thought about that why haven't i thought about that what end state do these people that are getting you know the the boosts and the facts and the updates and the whatever what what end state

do you see with this i mean look at it look at israel you know four four times whatever you know the most uh vaxxed country what if if you're not seeing this as a as a non-sterilizing therapeutic that is already animals wild animals have already acquired this and so it's escaped and it's it's spreading everywhere if you're not saying that this is endemic and it's not something that we're going to eradicate i don't know i don't know what you why you think well if i give up all of my freedoms um we're going to somehow stop this or it's going to get better i'm just going to keep complying i know so many intelligent people that that aren't aren't stepping back and looking at this and and i don't know i don't know how to get through them which is why i'm here

yeah hopefully more people have more conversations like this and maybe this conversation will convince a few people okay maybe the world is run by an evil cabal of psychopaths maybe just maybe yeah and i encourage people like looking i like i said i put together a lot of this evidence hard evidence on twitter um whitney webb she's she's done loads of it um you know and i she she's more of an investigative journalist i'm more just i'm pissed off at the world and and i can tell that something i'm being lied to about a lot of shit and i'm going to be exploited and and ruled by psychopaths that are not decent people and i need to do something about it so my curiosity and and my i i guess uh um

try hard and force me to go start digging because something is wrong here people need to wake up well jesse i hope you keep digging and again i hope you come back to twitter and are able to to to present to the world what you've been digging up i would say where can we find you on twitter but we can't we we can still find you there you can go back and see jesse's tweets you just can't tweet uh new tweets for the time being and that's i can't access it i can't access my dm so um yeah i mean i i made a tentative uh uh telegram account um it's it's just really so i until i figure out what i'm going to do next but but ultimately i i don't see twitter without some kind of massive changes i don't see twitter you know maybe i'll add the account or an account for

the for the purpose of collecting in information but i don't think it's a a good um venue for people to continue to support by being there um what is the proper alternative i don't know I'm open to suggestions. If you have them, I'll, I'll move to a different platform. I'll start over, but I can't, I can't support, you know, this, this entity that'll just, you know, with a click of a button and no ability to appeal or, or plead my case, um, unilaterally ending, you know, what, 27, 28,000 followers or whatever, you know, you build this up over time. If this was my brand, if this was my company, you just eviscerated everything I did over the past, what, two years with a click of a button and no ability for me to fight back. That's insane.

Yeah. If you're willing to write longer form, like people do on Substack, I'm actually building something that should be able to help you out there and make it so that that does not become a possibility in the future. yeah i i'm drafting a compilation of a lot of the stuff that i put together it's difficult without access to my account um for um cultural husbandry um i don't i don't even know so many people on twitter i only know their handles and i don't know their names i don't know anything about them that's a beautiful thing yeah and which is something they're trying to end as well yes any kind of anonymity so um and you know it's amazing like you know people like eric schmidt are behind a lot of this and that guy has another gillane maxwell tie he she was married to

scott borgeson and he was on her terramar board well when you when you know what scott borgeson was doing with Cargo Metrics, his company, well, Eric Schmidt seed funded that. And Scott Borgeson aimed to be the NSA of the seed, is what he had called it. Well, basically, they wanted to track every single cargo movement around the entire world with Internet of Things, blockchain and in being able to real time, be able to invest based on what movements were being made. And so if you look at the people that I think Stan Druckenmiller maybe might have even been involved in it, but I don't want to say that because I actually respect him.

But there are people that were involved in the seed funding of this that you have to look at and say, well, how do so many of these billionaires accidentally support Ghislaine or Epstein or, or, or their associates? How do you not, how do you not see what happened and say, wait a minute, maybe I don't want to have my investments associated with that. Yeah. Ask these questions, freaks. Yes. Jesse. i appreciate your time i appreciate your outlet um thank you so much for having me i appreciate you it was an incredible conversation i hope to do it again soon hopefully you can send more tweets and we talk about those and we can see where this goes hopefully at some point too in

the next few years we'll be able to talk about how right we were because these these psychopaths got got proven to be psychopaths and people woke up and um they are no longer in places of power we can only hope that's right man alright you too dude this is all we got this week freaks peace and love