TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #353: One nation under blackmail with Whitney Webb

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

Join Marty as he sits down with Whitney Webb to discuss her new book, One Nation Under Blackmail. They also discuss just how deep the Jeffery Epstein rabbit hole goes, Bush and Clinton crime family and who was Mark Middleton? Follow Whitney on Twitter Learn more about Unlimited Hangout Purchase One Nation Under Blackmail Shoutout to our sponsors: Unchained Capital Braiins HodlHodl Upstream Data CrowdHealth TFTC Merch is Available: Shop Now Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel Clips YT Channel Website Twitter Instagram Follow Marty Bent: Twitter Newsletter Podcast

So Freaks, it's your boy Marty here to introduce RIP-353 of TFTC with our very good old friend Whitney Webb. She just released a book, One Nation Under Blackmail, two volumes, very dense, filled with information about the intermingling of the intelligence agencies and organized crime throughout the last five decades. Highly recommend you freaks pick it up. It will be sitting in the TFTC Studios bookshelf

in Austin, Texas within the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean, Whitney's one of my favorite guests, one of the bravest individuals we've had on the show, the stuff she's reporting on. Many people don't want to touch and the fact that she goes there and not only goes there, but has very well-sourced information that really makes it hard to deny that this type of corruption is going on.

She's very brave, very valiant, and hopefully you guys really like this episode. A lot of dense information about what's going on in her book. Then pick up the book, spread the book, and let's unmask the corruption that exists in our world. I think you guys are going to enjoy it. This rip was brought to you by our good friends at Unchained Capital. This episode is going to be posted on Monday, August 22nd. That means you have 17 days to take part in the Drain the Exchange promo

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you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free when you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean that's part of the bull case for bitcoin if you're not paying attention you probably should be probably should be probably should be oh we're recording already whitney it's around us together last minute but i'm happy we are lex wexner uh leslie wexner possessed by by a demon uh you wrote about it in your book that is coming out soon one nation under blackmail i've been talking

a lot about the fact that it seems like here in the united states specifically maybe globally it feels like uh uh citizens as plebs as subjects whatever you want to call us we've been subject to some weird humiliation rituals from demonic forces and uh you're writing about uh the background of some of the people associated with jeffrey epstein particularly leslie wexner in your book and you actually came out and said hey i'm possessed by a demon so happy we're talking right now yeah so i'm not trying to get into like the spiritual stuff you know of this the idea is that you know i made the book like really well sourced like really primary sources mainstream media congressional reports police reports all of that type of stuff is the sourcing of the book

yeah so i don't really get in like um you know too too out there because i'm trying to appeal to people that like uh well i would say normies yeah because if you think about it if you go and talk to someone who's like not into this stuff normally and you go like yeah the cia does horrible stuff and if you're like the cia does horrible did horrible stuff in the 50s they'll be like oh yeah okay i believe you you know they did horrible shit in the 60s oh yeah okay i believe you the 70s you know and once you start to get to the 80s and 90s or like now people start to be like hmm i think you might be a conspiracy theorist i don't know how i feel about this you know so basically the the book is trying to like walk people from provable shit that these

guys have done that is very bad from way back then when people are more like amenable to believing it when it's really well sourced especially um and you know through the years to you know through Epstein who's obviously a figure of public interest and who pretty much everyone has heard of and everyone knows is bad we all agree he's bad right even mainstream media will agree with us

I hope we can all agree that he's bad yeah so the stuff about Wexner right that you just brought up so he has the weirdest freaking article came out about him in New York Magazine of all places in 1985

it's called like on Pins and Needles with Leslie Wexner. And that's a reference to his, uh, demon. He uses the Yiddish term, uh, the book, which is basically is usually translated into English as demon. And if you go and look in, in various, um, Jewish encyclopedias or, you know, websites like the Jewish Chronicle, or even, you know, just a general, uh, reference, uh, you know, sources a reference, like, I don't know, Encyclopedia Britannica or something like that. Yeah. Um, it's, it's consistently across the board defined, defined as like a negative spiritual possession, negative, meaning it's like not a good spirit. Yeah. And the way it's

often described is, um, the soul of, uh, or spirit of a person who committed many bad sins in their life. And that prevents them from moving on to the afterlife. The fact that they are so like dirty basically and so they cling they they go and stick or cling to a living person and and that's what wexner openly talks about having a relationship with and i don't know if you uh read my article on it uh which is pretty short yeah or uh you read the new york magazine article itself but that new york magazine article basically like brags about it um and the pins and Needles reference in the title is how Wexner describes how he feels constantly being poked and prodded by his de book, uh, which, which compels him to, um, gobble up more and more

companies and accumulate more wealth and power for himself. Um, he describes the book as a separate entity, uh, that, uh, is an integral part of his genius, he says. Um, and he claims it was, joined with him as a child, went away during an unspecified amount of time. And then around the time he was very wealthy, I think halfway to becoming a billionaire, roughly around there, I guess 1979, I think is the year he says it came back into his life. He has long had a vacation property in Colorado around Vail, I believe. And he was climbing up a mountain near there and apparently like had a near death experience um i guess climbed too far up the mountain for his own good or something like that and i guess uh he claims that this entity cling clung to him yet

again at that time like he sort of like made a deal it sounds like he made like a deal with the devil you know what i mean like get me out of this uh don't let me freeze to death and you know you and I'll do anything you say. I mean, it comes across like that, right? And the weird thing is the author of this article and New York Magazine, which is like nationally read, you know, it's like not just an, it's not like an obscure thing, references it repeatedly. I mean, it's like the main, one of the main themes throughout this whole like multi-page article, which was like the feature article for that particular issue for New York Magazine. And it has all these pictures of leslie wexner being like yeah with like women around him you know and then if you actually read

the text it's like i'm possessed by a demon uh i mean it's really it's just i mean i don't mean to like laugh at it but it's just so absurd it's it's really fucked up is what it is um you know because this is a guy well yeah so think think about it this way leslie wexner's philanthropy which, by the way, Jeffrey Epstein was really, really involved with from the late 80s, you know, pretty much onward, is focused on developing leaders, you know, sort of like the Young Global Leaders Program, which, by the way, in a recent article I put out, which is an excerpt from the book, there are intersections between uh the young global leaders program of the wef and uh leslie wexner's um you know leader training efforts so um and actually uh at that that video where where klaus schwab goes we will penetrate the cabinets and all that stuff that went viral yeah he's he's talking at a center that that wexner almost exclusively finances and found it

was founded with his money at Harvard. And he handpicked the head of that center, which is David Gergen, who's the guy in that video with Klaus Schwab. And that center hosts the Young Global Leaders summer seminars and stuff. But anyway, Wexner before then, since the 80s, has been almost exclusively focused on training young global leaders, either in the North American Jewish community or in Israel's government. Well, a lot of people in Israel's government, but also its national security apparatus and its banking sector, the private sector, stuff like that, you know, training people who then become leaders, whatever. So think about it this way. If someone is training, I don't know, Catholic clergy who get a who get a, you know, a fast track to the highest levels of the Vatican, a person who's like training all those guys openly says he's possessed by a demon or possessed by Satan. right how would people react to that okay that this is leslie wexner it's the same situation

there's been and not only do you have this crazy admission right of of his like spiritual affliction or mental illness or you know however you want to look at it because he openly says i basically have like two personalities i have like the stunted uh boy son part of myself and i have the book that's dominant i mean he basically says it's in the article go read it and towards the end of your article you say yeah he self-identifies as the book uh at that point he says it looks like him and and appears next to him and like tells him what to do and stuff and is there when he wakes up in the morning and when he goes i mean it's just like absurd to read it's nuts um yeah so that's the guy that bankrolled epstein dude yeah and so let's let's go more into your book i mean

the the subtitle of the book is the sordid union between intelligence and organized crime so how you're talking about leslie wexner the fact that yeah he's uh openly saying that he's possessed by some some demon some the book uh he uh very publicly financed jeffrey epstein is running all these organizations these foundations around the world at harvard one of the most prestigious universities here in the united states what type of influence did this ring of people i'll start with leslie wexner and epstein who are sort of tied at the hip uh have with the u.s intelligence community or global yeah so the most obvious thing we can see is southern air transport which was like the CIA before it, you know, pumped and dumped and destroyed itself at the end of the

1990s. So this airline has a really long history. It goes back to civil air transport and that later became Air America, you know, the CIA owned airline that was involved in, you know, drug running and illegal shit for decades and decades and decades. And in the 1980s, of course, it was the airline, you know, connected to Iran-Contra stuff, which is arms smuggling, drug smuggling, and, you know, other types of illegal activity. So that continued also through the Gulf War in the early 90s. And then a couple years after that, it becomes basically the exclusive courier of stuff for the Limited, Leslie Wexner's company. And this, you know, intimately involved Jeffrey Epstein, who was handling most of logistics for Wexner's business interests at the

time. The effort to court Southern Air Transport began in 1993. They were courting both Southern Air Transport and another airline linked to the CIA called AeroAir that was involved with gun running, drug smuggling, and also BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, which is like an intelligence-linked bank, involved not just in money laundering and financial crimes, but also sex trafficking, uh, and a ton of other stuff, really crazy, uh, bank to look into. So you have them starting to court two airlines there. Um, at the same time, the limited starts to hire pilots, uh, from a company called executive jet aviation, which was the very company used by Larry King of the Franklin scandal, uh, to, uh, move children around

the United States, if you're familiar with that. So that's pretty nuts in and of itself. And then by 1995, Southern Air Transport relocates to Columbus, Ohio, at the behest of the limited to run cargo for them. And they only really moved because thanks to Wexner's political connections in Ohio, he was able to secure an attractive financing package for their relocation. Yeah. He's based in Ohio. Yeah. But I want to say he's like exclusively there. I mean, he's a pretty well-connected, very wealthy dude. So anyway, Southern Air Transport, when it relocated to Columbus, they were top people in Ohio state government. like it's inspector general i think one of the top law enforcement officials they told some local journalists one of them called it the mayor lansky run basically saying that it was um linked to some sort of criminal activity the southern air transport limited partnership and um other people

um said that it was most likely that wexner and epstein were doing some shit with the cia um and you know there's a history of these airlines doing weird stuff domestically in the U.S. Look no further than, you know, Southern Air Transport in MENA, Arkansas, when Bill Clinton was governor and stuff like that with Barry Seale and the Contras and all of that stuff. If you're not familiar with that, I would encourage you to buy volume one of my book that explains all of this stuff like before Epstein, because it helps sort of flesh out, you know, what's really going on here. But Southern Air Transport was running cargo from Hong Kong to Columbus. And it's hard to know exactly what they were moving, but a bunch of people thought it was

really suspicious. I think I finally figured it out. And a lot of it has to do, I think, with who Epstein was meeting with at the White House at the same time that they were getting Southern Air Transport to move over there, which is Mark Middleton. And if you're not familiar with Mark Middleton in May of this year. He was found hanging from a tree at the ranch of an NGO called Heifer International that's tied to both the Gates Foundation and the Clinton Foundation. So that's fun. Hanging from a tree with an extension cord around his neck and a shotgun blast to the chest. It ruled a suicide. All photos and media taken at the scene of his death has been blocked by a judge so um wait that was just a couple months after the visitor logs of middleton

and epstein at the clinton white house in the mid-90s came out and it was revealed that what was previously thought to have been five sorry five visits was really 17 17 and in less than two years and all during this time when epstein is simultaneously involved with southern air transport, which as I mentioned earlier, had a history in Arkansas when Clinton was governor and was, you know, members of Clinton's inner circle at that time were involved in those operations. Yeah. So you start to look into Mark Middleton, shit gets really crazy, really fast. I'll give you an example. When George W. Bush became president, do you know the first time he invoked executive privilege? It was just a couple of weeks before 9-11 and it was to block

all documents being released to congress about mark middleton who was a clinton staffer not a bush staffer so why did the bush family step in to protect mark middleton who left the white house in 1995 um what kind of documents was congress looking to get a hold of do we know They're related to the largely forgotten Clinton scandals of the 1996 re-election campaign. The concern about foreign espionage financing of the Clinton campaign in 1996. And that shit is totally mental also. And man, yeah, if you start to look into that, it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly that the Clinton kill list is about like 34 people short of what it really should be.

Not even joking about that. And it's really crazy. So I outlined it in the book. It's going to take, it would take a lot longer than we have today to unpack. And there's a lot to talk about. So I'll just basically give, I guess, an overview. So a lot of the focus of that investigation was actually on chinese espionage in the united states as it relates to the clinton campaign but it wasn't you know chinese the chinese government was involved but the main focus is around a ola and a family of oligarchs that are very influential in asia in general uh who were based in indonesia they're called the riadis makhtar riadi is the patriarch of that family. And they are longtime Clinton benefactors. Well before this, even going back

to when Clinton was governor of Arkansas in the 1980s, and they are business partners of Jackson Stevens, who bankrolled not just Clinton, but also Bush Sr. And was very much involved with the aforementioned BCCI, the Intelligence-Linked Super Suspect Bank, and just linked to a lot of really suspect activity in general, Jackson-Stevens. And a lot of people in the Clinton power nexus during that time in Arkansas, which is centered, I guess, around the Rose Law Firm, have a lot of ties to Jackson-Stevens. Rose Law Firm basically represented most of Jackson-Stevens' companies um and people who later were prominently placed in the clinton administration like webster hubble and vince foster all of whom met uh oh am i still here oh yeah who both of

whom met um unfortunate i guess uh ends to their political careers though very different types of ends uh vince foster died under very suspicious circumstances webster hubble was you know had to resign in related to the whitewater scandals and stuff. But anyway, this Chinagate stuff is sometimes called centers around the Riotti family, really. But the Riotti families in the beginning of the 1990s started to basically become not just business partners of Jackson Stevens, but business partners of Chinese corporations that were run by the so-called princelings, which are like the um children of the communist party elite who um you know basically dominate a lot of sort of the more capitalist enterprises uh that are that have sort of like state involvement

uh in china including weapons companies um so anyway uh the main guy most of the co-conspirators in Chinagate, the people they were meeting with was Mark Middleton, why Epstein's also meeting with them. So you have a bunch of people that later get accused by Congress of being spies for China, but several of them are actually more like spies for the Riotti family than they are for China, right? But there are a lot of connections to the Chinese government there. And at the same time, you have people like Epstein, but also people in the broader Maxwell network, I guess you could call it. Robert Maxwell and people that were sort of his business associates also being involved in this campaign scandal at the same time. So you have basically people adjacent to

Israeli intelligence and Chinese intelligence circling around this stuff at the same time. and uh so where does southern air transport comes in well it turns out this is so nuts it it turns out that basically um there was uh a policy put in place um by clinton in 1994 that bans the importation of chinese weapons into the united states and somehow those weapons kept coming into the United States and were basically being funneled to gangs on the West Coast and East Coast during, you know, when gang violence was particularly bad. So basically, you know, if you're familiar with Gary Webb's work in Dark Alliance, intelligence was funneling crack and other stuff into inner cities. They were also funneling weapons, apparently, that were cheap

and made in China. Uh, so that's what it looks like. And Southern air transport, I think was being used by that time to funnel weapons because the same weapons companies before Southern air transport relocated, um, to Columbus, um, well, they got busted for smuggling it into the U S, uh, through all these guys that were also tied up with this China gate stuff. And Epstein in the 1980s had a relationship and his mentor Douglas Lee did too

with one of these state owned Chinese companies that was small in the United States and so the Columbus route starts after they already get busted like ruined the atf raid on these guys um like um like tipped off

going that had time government tipped off a little bit really knows what happened but you am i still here you're still here but you're breaking up a little bit um seems like the deep state talking about some pretty wild stuff so i can't say i'm surprised um but i got i mean when i picked up the did i hear the atf was involved in some way yeah yeah can you hear me or am i still like yeah i can hear you not here yeah you're coming okay so yeah there was this you can look it up um it was called dragon operation dragon fire i guess kind of a cheesy name you know how the government is so that was the atf operation and i think vanity fair and some other places wrote about it but yeah it was tipped off uh they tipped off the people they were

going to arrest the highest ranking people and one of the highest ranking people they were planning to arrest was the guy who managed the north american businesses for this chinese weapons dealer who the China gate people, um, had arranged to meet with Clinton. Um, and apparently that meeting was related to the tip off about this weapon smuggling stuff. So it seems like it was related to weapons stuff, but at the same time, it also looks like it was really related to efforts to, um, uh, change commerce department policy, uh, as it relates to import and export, not just of like weapons, but also of technology. And it looks like there was a lot of really illegal technology transfers going on during this period of time to China specifically with sort of Israel

as an intermediary. And if you look in the New York Times, back in 1993, you had like intelligence officials saying Israel's passing all of the military stuff we share with them as part of our quote unquote special relationship with Israel. Israel passes it all to China and they're not supposed to do that and but they're never investigated for it basically so yeah there's a lot of crazy shit and intrigue uh in that whole thing and so i think that's a pretty um insane indication of the networks in which epstein and wexner swim but so you have the cia airline in the mix a lot of other of the logistic companies that work for the limited uh like the One of the main ones throughout the 1980s until it went bankrupt when it was under investigation for under under organized crime ties was Walsh Trucking, which is run by this guy named Frank Walsh, who is a like known criminal.

And he's there's like this Columbus, Ohio police report related to the murder of a tax attorney that was working for Wexner at the time he was murdered. and uh they tried to destroy this document the like high the police chief uh but he it somehow like came it wasn't destroyed i don't know how but i'm i'm glad we have it because it basically talks about all of wexner's organized crime ties throughout the 1980s um around the time it was well it was written in 1991 i guess so that's by that point uh you know epstein had become his money manager, but it's talking about his tie at Wexner's ties around the time he met Epstein, right. Uh, in 1987 or 1985, depending on who you believe the murder of this lawyer happened in 1985. Um, so anyway, that report points out that the main logistics company for

the limited at the time was deeply in bed with organized crime whilst trucking. And it was under federal investigation for organized crime ties, but that investigation went, uh, and it turns out that all the correspondence sent to walsh trucking in in connection with that investigation the address was one limited parkway which is the same address as limited uh as the limited like hq you know so i mean basically seems like it was you could almost argue it was like a subsidiary of wexner's uh own business empire because it was you know located at the same place um yeah this is all So Wexner's a dirty guy. There's a lot more organized crime stuff for him too, like some of his business associates and stuff. Also his business mentors who he called his business rabbis also have a history of associating with organized crime people or one of them went to prison for rigging a Sotheby's auction house auctions for an antitrust case and stuff. yeah i was i was never aware of this uh chinagate espionage stuff it's fucking nuts and it's amazing

where people don't know about it because i mean it's like so seriously shady anyway the mark middleton role in that is what george w bush blocked yes but it's even crazier than you think it's even crazier than you think because the main focus one of the main people these guys were targeting was ron brown of the commerce department and then right when all this stuff is starting to explode and be investigated ron brown dies in the shadiest plane crash ever with 34 people who were all part of the same part of the commerce department that were being targeted by these guys they all end up dead in the same plane crash being targeted by the the china people the espionage stuff okay and they were all trying to affect commerce department policy um and they

tried to get stuff like a transfer of military technology approval for that move to the commerce department and and ron brown was like super sold out it's kind of funny because he looks like he looks just like lando calrissian um so when i was looking at pictures of him i was like oh lando you know you've been down this road before but anyway um um he does look like williams it's true So anyway, but the plane crash was really sus, yeah? Because supposedly it was blamed on a navigational error, but the plane crashed in Croatia, yeah? But then the navigational error, right?

The head of navigation of this airport in Croatia where they were supposed to be flying to was found shot in the chest two days later after the crash, and that was also ruled a suicide. I love it. Just a lot of weird stuff. shoot themselves yeah but also it's not just the plane crash ron brown's body found at the plane crash had a weird hole in his head that wasn't caused by the plane crash and it was very clearly

a bullet wound and you know they did an autopsy and there were x-rays taken and the x-rays apparently showed a lead snowstorm like the bullet fragmented in a bunch of pieces and just you know went all over the place and and then the x-rays were destroyed and no one's seen them since um and and i mean there's a ton of stuff apparently ron brown was going to cooperate with an investigation into some of this stuff and then was uh asked unexpectedly uh to go on a trade mission to croatia and then he doesn't come back home and then he doesn't cooperate with the investigation because he's dead so at this time uh or before this time like in the late 90s when epstein was meeting with middleton uh what was reported to be five times but turned out to

be 17 times like what 17 what was he being like written down as like like why was he was coming with women too he was coming with young women every time young attractive women every time a different woman all supposedly his girlfriends concurrently on you know the hugh hefner model i would call it so and on one of these occasions mark middleton comes with epstein flies on his plane to florida and then flies with him from florida to the bahamas uh apparently going to epstein's island i would assume uh he's going with him to the caribbean so they go meet at the white house and then mark comes with with jeffrey down to the caribbean for i'm sure just fun times. They were accompanied by a woman named Jennifer Driver, who no one knows anything about,

probably an alias. But anyway, in the Palm Beach residence when it was raided, there were pictures of Epstein at the White House podium, like for press conferences and stuff. And he's with a different woman in both of those pictures, and no one knows who the women are. One of the women was Ghislaine Maxwell. One was a Norwegian heiress that he was dating, who later goes on to be Donald Trump's girlfriend before Melania. Another one ended up marrying some really shady oil trader, intimately tied to some of the shadiest figures in U.S. intelligence ever named John Deuce, I think is how you pronounce his name. And he has a lot of connections with Epstein's network, including some of the weird foreign currency trading that Epstein was known to be

doing throughout this period. That's another major subtext of the book is all the financial shit. Epstein is just tied over and over again to a slew of financial crimes, including basically the collapse of Bear Stearns in 2008, which I did not get to go into the book because it got too long. But hopefully some other point I'll be looking into that because I mean, if true, that's crazy. You can see the intelligence ties and then he goes and basically collapses Bear Stearns, which basically leads to the 2008 economic crisis. Wouldn't that be nuts? Anyway, on the UNS review,

someone published an article about a lot of that stuff that I've seen in the collapse of Bear Stearns for people that want to go look for that because it's pretty nuts. But anyway, I think there's a reason they want people just so specifically focused on a very narrow window of Epstein's life and his activities.

You know, most of the focus is around like the early 2000s sex trafficking and, you know, the victims that were highlighted by the Miami Herald. And that's really where the only place anyone really wants to go. And it's all about the sex crimes. Nothing about the financial crimes. And what's crazy is that if you think about the investigation or attempted investigation into Epstein's financial crimes, that's the only time where someone innocent in these cases has been killed. So you have, you know, Epstein getting suicided. You have John Luke Brunel, one of his co-conspirators in the sex trafficking stuff, being suicided in France. But when it came to Epstein and the Deutsche Bank court case, investigating his connection with Deutsche Bank, the judge's son gets shot and murdered in his home. Was it in New Jersey? on the judge yeah i think so esther salas was the judge and it was her son that was shot

by a guy that used to work for kroll kroll associates uh which also pops up in the book repeatedly he's pretending to be a fedex driver or something like that right knocked on the door something like that well that's the official story it wasn't you know the guy was found dead too so who really knows if it was him but if it was him you know the crawl associates history is a little you know so going all the way back to the 80s with leslie wexner uh the airline the yeah there's also more if you want to talk about epstein and intelligence i just sort of went over the wexner stuff yeah well i want to go over all the what i really want to get at here is like what you're describing like flooding guns into gangland here in america to incite i have to do more more

research on on some of that too i mean i put a lot of it in the book but it turns out that it was a lot more extensive than i think even congress got a hold of uh so we'll see we'll see where that rabbit hole goes but yeah i think there's a lot to come out about epstein and there's a reason that they don't want um you looking beyond the the sex trafficking stuff well that's the point like what like how much influence how much do they control you're talking about like notorious gang violence here in the United States in the 90s, crack epidemic here in the United States, intermingling of the intelligence agencies internationally, and this weird that exists. And then we're mentioning Clinton.

Your heads more than anything with these people really in the background. So I would argue that the Bush and Clintons are really part of the same crime family at the end of the day, they may seem like they're in different political parties. But if you look through their history, I mean, there's a lot of connections. Like I mentioned earlier, you know, Iran-Contra happened really, you know, when George Bush Sr. was vice president. And you could argue pretty easily that after the attempted hit on Ronald Reagan's life in the early 80s, George Bush was basically in charge of most things after that. And then, you know, he really had three terms as president, Bush senior. And, you know, with, with Iran Contra and stuff, I mean,

you had the Clintons tied up in that too. And it looks like what was going on around this stuff in the mid nineties, all swirling around Mark Middleton was basically the Clinton administration's version of Iran Contra. And that's mental and it's mental that it hasn't come out yet, but it had to like you know uh take jeffrey epstein to sort of put those pieces together you know what i mean yeah but what's what's particularly crazy about it and um this is why i think people should really buy volume one of the book if they want to understand this part of the of the scandals here um there's there was a company tied to what i call in the book a private cia which was a lot of these CIA guys, six blackmailers and really shady dudes, basically trying to circumvent

efforts under the Carter administration to sort of get the CIA a little more under control. And they basically set up a private CIA that went out of control really fast and was tied up with the same intelligence network that later became the leadership of the CIA under Bill Casey with Reagan. But one of the guys in this network is a guy named John Singlob, and he had a company called GeoMilitech, which was really tied up with the U.S. and Israel. And when the Iran-Contra hearings happened, there was the revelation about some plan that was discussed between GeoMilitech representatives and Bill Casey when he was CIA director that was basically about the U.S. would give, it's like a three-way trading scheme between the U.S., Israel, and China

involving weapons and technology transfers. And one thing I should say about GeoMilitech is that they did business with Robert Maxwell and his arms trading stuff as it relates to Iran-Contra. Then you have basically Robert Maxwell's successor in many ways, Jeffrey Epstein, at the center of what appears to be that exact plan taking place in the clinton era and that's mental um so yeah buy my books let's have a discussion about it but i mean eventually you'll be able to you know i'm sure someone will pirate the book and put it online you know whatever so you can read it then uh so the first one comes out at the end in about a month is volume one. And then volume two comes out a month later. So volume one is about this network

behind Epstein and then volume two and all this stuff about Mark Middleton and whatever that's volume two. So some people may just want volume two, but you're going to, you're going to miss out on a lot of the context that I think helps prove the thesis of the book. If you don't buy volume one, like that Gia Militech stuff, explaining who the Riottis are, the Clinton family, Clinton's involvement in Iran-Contra, what BCCI was, who Adnan Khashoggi was, who's a really big player here, what the Promise software scandal was with Robert Maxwell. A lot of the same people involved in Iran-Contra were involved in the Promise software scandal, which is basically the beginning in a big way of subverting technology. It was used basically to get a back

door into intelligence agencies all over the world. I mean, it was a major intelligence coup, first used by Israel and then later used by the CIA. But the CIA's backdoor version didn't go after global intelligence agencies as much as it went after banks. It was all about tracking money and also about, it also enabled money laundering on like a huge, huge scale. So anyway, you have to understand a lot of that stuff to understand what Epstein was doing in the in the 1980s because if I'm like uh you know trying to explain Epstein's intelligence connections to you and I drop lines names like Ednan Khashoggi like you have to know who that guy was you know I can be like intelligence-linked weapons dealer but if I just you know if I simplify it to that um you know

it sort of leaves out the fact that someone like Ednan Khashoggi was tied to Israeli intelligence U.S. intelligence, U.K. intelligence, and Saudi intelligence. And it leaves out a lot of these different entity, like, I mean, there's just a lot of moving parts here, right? So basically, the case I'm making in the book, when you take both volumes together, is that Epstein is part of this network that has cropped up in various investigations of different scandals through the decades. In Iran-Contra, they referred to themselves as the Enterprise, which I think is probably a very accurate name for them because this is a business. And this is a business that began when organized crime and intelligence first got together, which formally happened

during World War II in what is now called Operation Underworld, which was where the office of naval intelligence with the involvement of the office of strategic services which is the precursor to the cia formally uh allied uh aligned itself uh with organized crime elements specifically the national crime syndicate which was people uh basically emerging of the italian and jewish mobs in new york uh who by that point had already come to dominate the democratic party in new york and uh well yeah because they took over the unions and that's part of the reason operation underworld happened they wanted the cooperation of uh dock workers and the dock workers union was controlled by the mob so in order to get to the dock workers they had to go through the mob

and basically you know the idea that organized crime is gone in the u.s or is a sideshow no way dude every time you hear about organized crime people being arrested from the 40s on it's consolidation it's these guys that teamed up with intelligence taking out their competition every single time i mean you fast forward to today and you know two prominent figures that are in and out of the news or one of them's really front and center in the news which is bill gates and then larry summers associated with jeffrey oh larry yeah and i mean it's like it seems like it's more out in the open now like i think what bill gates specifically has done is egregiously criminal uh and continues to do um in terms of the vaccine rollout and

pushing for that oh yeah okay there's some crazy stuff in the book about the gates foundation the Clinton Foundation and Epstein. It looks like Epstein basically created the HIV AIDS program that was pursued by both foundations in the early 2000s. And later the Clinton Foundation and the Gates Foundation teamed up to basically pursue those together at a time when Epstein was meeting with Bill Gates all the time about philanthropy, 36 times that we know about, but they definitely met before the year 2000. But mainstream media won't touch that, but I've written about that already. And that's also in the book, but you can read an article on my site about it. If you just search for Epstein and Gates on my website, Unlimited Hangout, you can find the article

about all of that. Epstein and the Maxwell siblings were very involved with Microsoft throughout the 1990s. Very involved. So the idea that they didn't meet until 2011 is totally clown world. One example is that the Gates Foundation hired as its science advisor in the early 2000s, a girl named Melanie Walker. Melanie Walker met Epstein in 1992 and he basically invested in and cultivated her for what I think to be like a really sophisticated asset. Because I think in examining his sex trafficking stuff for the book, there's two parallel sex trafficking operations. There's one that we all know about where all these girls on a massive scale were exploited and treated as expendable and abused and all of that

stuff. Right. And then you have another tier where, you know, a lot of the lure to bring in these girls was promises of help, promises of help with a modeling career, with a music career, with an art career or financial help, all sorts of stuff. Yeah. And so on this other tier, this parallel operation, they're basically offering the offers of help actually come through and they invest a lot of money in these girls as they become women. And then um they become girlfriends or wives of people in epstein's network um and so melanie walker is one of those people she's now with a microsoft executive um but um she was epstein's science advisor he was apparently financing her grad school and she's a neuroscientist now with the

Rockefeller foundation. And, uh, yeah, which by the way, there's a lack of reporting on the Epstein Rockefeller ties. That's also on the book, uh, David Rockefeller specifically. So, um, losing my train of thought, Melanie Walker, right. She was science advisor to Epstein. And then just a couple of years later is hired to be one of the main science advisors for the foundation. But think about a resume at the time. How do you go to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation get hired as the top science advisor and you're like oh i was previously advisor to this billionaire jeffrey epstein at that time bill gates would have had to have known who jeffrey epstein was what kind of science he was interested in to hire his former science advisor i mean think

about a job interview for that what's your previous experience i was previously the science advisor for jeffrey epstein you know okay you're hired has to know epstein to some extent but i I mean, the other thing with Gates and Epstein is that there's British media outlets reporting in 2001, before Epstein was infamous, he was just a billionaire or financier or whatever at that time, right? No one knew about all his naughty stuff. So British media outlets at the time say that Epstein's, in 2001, say that Epstein's fortune came from his business links to three people, Leslie Wexner, Donald Trump, and Bill Gates.

how could they have said that in 2001 if Jeffrey Epstein didn't know Bill Gates yeah that article's never been retracted by the way so um and Bill Gates didn't complain about it at the time or ever since um but we're you know just believe the New York Times that the first visit between them was 2011 yeah well it seems like right now Bill Gates is frantically trying to insert himself into everything maybe I don't know it's like yeah I think it's an ego issue he's a little dweeb he wants to be on top of everyone telling them what to do i mean he's a dweeb with like skeletor delusions you know i mean that's what he wants yeah i mean he was he was i forget what publication it was but a couple days ago it came out and with this inflation reduction

act which is really just a green new deal act in disguise that's yes yeah inflation he's bragging about his close relationship with mansion who was the swing boat for this bill and he's essentially taking it past um and really leaning into the climate stuff and then yeah well that's his next rift for sure um look at a lot of his investments in the u.s uh his catalyst energy which i think is gates and bezos together there's uh if i'm like able to recover quickly from this book that's a lot of the stuff i'm going to be looking into is a lot of this climate uh fuckery and efforts to securitize the natural world i wrote about it last year we talked about it a little bit last year and it's advanced a lot more now the canadian government and the uk government in the in a

bunch of wall street banks have come together to securitize the world's oceans that's going to be fun um yeah so um there's no shortage of uh of you know the worst people you know cashing in over climate change it's um it's it's pretty nuts the extent of the fuckery going on with that and for the people who believe all these narratives i don't know here's a thought experiment for you if carbon dioxide is the big problem uh why doesn't bill gates being the largest private landowner of farmland in the u.s right now just reforest it and plant it with trees right plants breathe in carbon dioxide and they breathe you know they they exhale oxygen uh why wouldn't you just reforest your um your property which is you know most of the farmland he bought

is fallow anyway it's not in production so why not just reforest it right no but we're supposed to believe that instead of planting trees uh what's really going to save the planet is a carbon tax carbon markets um natural asset corporations um you know buying bonds in the world's oceans i mean if you can't see that for the scam it is i said this on twitter before you might as well just give these billionaires your brain in a bag if you think they care about the planet just hand it over uh there's nothing for a while they're not using it so just give it go ahead and give it to them you know just pop it open pull it out yeah here just take it give me my my you know cricket ration and i'll chomp away we need to take them what did you write about by chance like that

uh his at-home computer infrastructure it guy engineer guy that that had a giant uh video collection of child rape yes he is in the book okay good what what is can you dive in a little bit into him without giving up too much uh i can't remember his name because i wrote that part uh probably like in may of last year but i think that's one of the main reasons that melinda gates was trying to get Bill Gates away from Jeffrey Epstein. I don't think it's because she was so much grossed out by Epstein. I think she was like, okay, my name is on this foundation. And you know, the guy at our house is currently under investigation while you're meeting with a guy who like was arrested for, you know, pedophile sex trafficking in 2006, 2007. And now, you know,

our, our guy's about to get nabbed. I mean, it's, it's not going to look good for me. I think that's what the motivation really was. I mean, she claimed like, oh, I don't I'm horrified by what he was doing. But, you know, keep in mind, in January 2020, you have Cindy McCain, the wife of John McCain. Yeah. Who? There's no like really obvious McCain Epstein tie. Yeah. So, you know, these guys are separated by various degrees of separation, at least. Yeah. and she goes and say, we all knew what Epstein was doing. You can go look up the video of her saying that in 2020, we all knew what he was doing. They all knew. So if you're even closer than the McCain's were to Epstein, which isn't very close from what I can see in your, you know, at the Gates level and you're actually meeting with the guy, how do you not know what he's doing? It's hard because, you know, some of these early articles about Epstein Maxwell from the early 2000s. I mean, it's, it's even clear from that what's going on. There's a, I think it's from

2003 or 2001, a mainstream media article in the UK saying stuff like, uh, Ghislaine Maxwell has weird parties where she invites young girls to her house and she brandishes whips and trains them in sex techniques. In the early 2000s? Yeah. This is like 2003 or 2001. Can't remember the exact year before Epstein was arrested that's going out in the media these people totally knew oh well everyone totally knew I mean it's a joke to me go back to the beginning of this conversation Leslie Wexner openly talking about being possessed by a demon the media openly talking about Ghislaine Maxwell teaching people some erotic sex moves with young women young girls it says yeah yeah all out in the open the mark middleton murder i mean the fact that

the middleton stuff is just beyond i mean i only really scratched the surface i'm like not even giving you the detail of the stuff that went on i mean well it's it's insane if you factor it honestly has to be one of the worst scandals in the last 30 years hands down and hardly anyone knows about it you know i was like six years old at the time it happened or whatever like 1996 well i was born in 89 but you know i didn't know what was going on at the time obviously but i i don't know i think it's been memory hold for people that even did know and the vince foster stuff is also really crazy there uh in the book is also in an epstein vince fostered you know connection that is really disturbing and that's i think that's all you know

why vince foster had to go uh that's all tied up with the same stuff that was going on with middleton in the in the mid 90s and that just says to me that we don't even really have a full understanding of how corrupt the clintons are with everything we already do know yeah yeah that there's more on how just absurdly corrupt they are to come out but you know oh another thing i should i should say so one of the main guys here of interest and this whole china gate thing that never got properly investigated uh but i mean he just he has to be a total insane traitor the way the stuff he was doing with this stuff he's an american He is the guy that helped put Biden in office this term, responsible for his primary win, financed him all the way through the Iowa caucus when he was going to have to drop out, and basically foisted Joe Biden, senile, ice cream-eating Joe Biden, on America.

um the same guy that sold out our national security to uh to uh you know our supposed top foreign adversary uh with all this intrigue of uh foreign intelligence agents and the murder of like 34 top officials of the commerce department is the guy that put biden in power his name's bernard schwartz okay yeah you can look him up he's really old by now but uh he's still around and still loves to throw his money at a horrible centrist dims uh you know who are basically just like you know cookie cutter world economic forum whatever you know my mind like going back to middleton like what beans was he about to spill if they hung him and then shot him in the chest with a shotgun and just left he why did they wait until this may to do it i think

it has to do with the fact the visitor logs about him and epstein came out and people are going to start looking into who was mark middleton and when you start going down that road of who was mark middleton it gets really crazy really fast and then you see that the bush is the you know child bush you know w w bush steps in his first invocation of you know executive privilege as president is to is to protect this guy who had resigned like five five six-ish years prior from the white house left in february 1995 yeah epstein's last visit to the white house was just before mark middleton left in january 1995 he stopped going when middleton was gone because he was meeting mostly with middleton

but his first visit his first visit was signed off by robert rubin who became treasury secretary and whose deputy was larry summers and while larry summers is robert rubin's deputy he's flying on epstein's plane uh way before he becomes president of harvard and another crazy thing about robert rubin before he was in that position where he brought in epstein to the white House. He was, I think at that time he was head of the National Economic Council or something like that. But before he was in the Clinton administration, Robert Rubin was head of Goldman Sachs at the exact time that Goldman Sachs was taking a ton of heat because of their involvement in Robert Maxwell's illegal business activities and the theft of pension fund money and all of this

stuff. Goldman Sachs intimately involved in that and Robert Rubin would have too. So the guy that, you know, was intimately involved in Robert Maxwell's financial crimes brings Jeffrey Epstein to the white house, uh, on his first white house visit on, you know, there's a lot more to come out. You know, I tried to dig up a lot in my book because I mean, think about all the stuff we've talked about today. Where else have you heard this shit about Jeffrey Epstein? And it's all able to be documented. Like I said, uh, my sources for this are either mainstream media, primary sources, uh, congressional investigations, police reports, all kinds of stuff like that you know try and debunk me assholes in mainstream media you know i'm not

you know how uh how is it like have you i mean obviously i'm sure people paint you as a conspiracy theorist but again you're you're sure who isn't these days i don't know everyone without myocarditis i guess no i mean that's i mean sorry maybe that wasn't nice no i mean i'm not i don't have to worry about that so uh no basically you're a conspiracy theorist if you don't believe the government 100 of the time if you don't trust public institutions you're a conspiracy theorist now that's probably most americans do you think we're getting close to the dam breaking on all this stuff yeah it's gonna happen a part of it is because the same group i wrote about with epstein and in like i mentioned epstein's financial

crimes these people have been looting the u.s and also the whole like global economy for decades and there's a point where their rackets and all their financial schemes are going to collapse you know um like 2008 right you know this the the structural stuff that happened there never got fixed it's just been another bubble inflated on top of that popped bubble um and everyone pretty much knows it's a mathematical inevitability that it'll collapse again right these guys want to manage that collapse they don't get in trouble they're illegal shit they've been doing this whole time with the banking system doesn't get found out and so they can be in power forever um you know by enslaving the plebs with cbdc's and stuff like that and that's why you're seeing

this major effort to remake the economy uh you know under the guise of climate change and whatever else and a more equitable world where you're all equally enslaved you know stuff like that um you know but there's a major effort to remake the global economy right at the time this stuff is about to uh hit the fan yeah but these people have been taking us to town and looting us for like decades decades and decades and decades and most of them i mean some of the biggest collapses in u.s history intimately connected this network uh enron is one but i don't really go into those connections too much in the book that's going to have to be a separate thing um but uh penn central one of the biggest bankruptcies in u.s history that happened

in the 70s uh tied up with these guys to um the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s drexel burnham lambert uh all of that stuff is here with these guys it's the same dudes uh and that's just on the financial side and then keep in mind too epstein was one of the masterminds of one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in US history at Towers Financial. And then instead of getting prosecuted for that, Steve Hoffenberg takes the fall. Instead of doing that, Epstein goes straight to the White House and starts being involved in Clinton presidential fundraising in 1993 and 1996, and then helps create essentially the Clinton Foundation, which is their modern day political slush fund. So you have a major financial criminal becoming intimately

involved in the clinton fundraising uh machine uh you know after after after planning the biggest ponzi scheme at that time in u.s history there's a lot to chew on there it all reeks and when i say the dam breaking i mean like people waking up being like look oh that would be nice i hope my book can do that for people because i mean it is it is a documented history of how these guys have been fucking us over uh for a hundred years i mean it's basically like uh going a hundred years back um and most of it focuses you know the timeline of the book i guess basically stops in the early 2000s you know but i do mention some stuff about epstein that happened later in relation to like silicon valley and stuff in that to sort of close out the book uh but there's a there's a lot to

chew on it's a long history but we have to know how we got here to know how to fix it and you can't think like the excuse that was made in like watergate and like iran contra and stuff when like some of these scandals come out they're like oh well you just have to throw the rotten fish out of the barrel but keep the barrel you know the system's not bad just some of the you know just a few rotten apples the rest are all good you know no no don't believe that shit the whole thing is is is you know it's got to go rotten to its core yeah 100 so where can we find the book car okay so i'm guessing most of your uh audience lives in the continental u.s so if that's the case uh what you're showing on screen is what you should buy if you want both books uh it's the

bundle you get volumes one and two for 34.95 you can also buy both books separately there Um, but, um, I say the continental U S because currently for outside or for far from the U S, um, you know, like Europe, uh, the shipping costs are kind of high and that's out of my hands. Cause you know, that's just how things are, but we're working with the distributors like in the UK and other places, uh, to make that bundle available for this price over there. So, um, if you want more information about those different, you know, bundle stuff or, or updates about more information about the book, you can go to my website, UnlimitedHangout.com.

And you can, yeah, go to the page about the book that's right there that you have up. You can also sign up for the newsletter, UnlimitedHangout.com slash newsletter, where you can, all the book updates we have, you can look at. And what you're showing there is my most recent podcast that basically is me giving an overview of the structure of the book, both volumes because it was originally written to be one book it just ended up being so long um that it got split into two for the physical copy uh the e-book and the audio book which are both going to be available soon um are going to be both volumes together so that's definitely going to be the most cost effective uh for most people so if you want you know information on on

that once it's available please sign up for the newsletter um but if you want the physical book which I mean, I personally prefer physical books than, uh, trying days, the best place to buy them if you're in the U S but there are some, I believe I've heard from people in the UK, there are some distributors over there, um, that are, uh, you know, taking care of the stuff. I worked really hard on these books. Uh, it's like a lot of really detailed research. So I would appreciate, you know, your support by, by buying it. But like I said, you know, the audio book and ebook are going to come out. That's going to be, um, you know, the best, the most cost-effective way for people to like get this material and honestly what i care about

more than anything else is that just like people read it you know like i didn't do this because i wanted to like you know milk the interests and the epstein ties otherwise i would have written a much shorter book like that was more like wham pal whoa whatever but this is you know um i'm trying to document how we got here and you know you'll in taking a look at volumes one and two together, you will realize Jeffrey Epstein was in no way an anomaly. There are people littered throughout U.S. history that were just like him. People like Roy Cohn, people like Edwin Wilson, people like Robert Keith Gray, people like Adnan Khashoggi, all of these guys had sex blackmail, major political power, lots of influence in the private and public sector, ties to organized

crime, you name it, it's there, right? Epstein was not an anomaly at all. And that's the mainstream media narrative right is that oh he's the he was the only bad billionaire but don't worry our justice system took care of him and he's dead so don't worry about it that's what bill gates like likes to say when he's questioned about bill gates now he's like well he's dead so you know no bill uh you're still a dweeb and you're still a creep and it doesn't matter that he's dead uh you know you should be held accountable even though you're a billionaire so you know having uh having chatted with you for the last couple of years, I know, like you said, you've worked extremely hard on this book, a lot of long hours. I mean,

the last time we caught up a couple of months ago, uh, you were, uh, in the middle of the slog. If I remember correctly, it was pretty brutal. Yeah. I'm very, uh, very happy that everything's, uh, finished. It's out there. Uh, go to unlimited hangout, check out the book, uh, one nation under blackmail. The Sorted Union of Intelligence and Organized Crime That Led to the Rise of Jeffrey Epstein. I believe I got that correct off the top of my head. It's more or less. Yeah, totally.

I mean, that's what the book is. You have to know where it started and how it's happened. And it's not just a damning expose, I would say, of Epstein. It's a damning expose of the power structure of our country. Of the world, arguably. Well, yeah, because the U.S. is an empire. So it has client states that are controlled by these same entities in how many countries? We have 800 military bases around the world.

So, you know, I mean, yeah, it's important. I hope you also think that. People watching. I'm going to pick up the book. I've already picked up the book. It's coming to TFTC Studios. It will be on our bookshelf in the studio. I'm obviously not there right now.

I'm on the back porch. No worries. um yeah thank you for the work i mean it's always a pleasure catching up with you i think the work that you're doing is very important uh it's very brave work there's not too many people out there willing to do this and no but it needs to be done you know i mean we can't just keep sleepwalking into insane dystopia indefinitely uh and you know i'm a mom you're a dad i don't think we want the shit for our kids so you know you gotta have to gotta have to do something about it and it starts with waking people up. Because as much as you like prep and off-grid and whatever, I mean,

I think obviously that's really important because of a lot of the stuff that's obviously in the works right now and is going to explode not too long in the future from now. But you have to have, you know, there's power in numbers, right? And there's a reason that they have invested so much in manipulating the public and trying to convince people that our institutions aren't corrupt, why they've been taken over by organized crime and intelligence fusing together and basically becoming the same entity um so you know we have to inform people that's where it starts yes keep uh i think the first time you're on the show that's what you said you do this because you want to poke a pen in the eye of the power structure so yeah yeah totally well you know

um when i lived in the states i didn't really have it easy i you know one of the reasons i came to Latin America was because it just life in the States did not go well for me, um, as a young person. And, um, you know, eventually you figure out about all this stuff and how the world is set up and it's really unfair. And, you know, I do want to stick them in the eye and I want to stick them in the eye just because of like my experience. Right. But because of like, when you study the stuff, all the people they've killed, all the lives they've destroyed, um, all the people they've screwed over who didn't deserve it uh yeah i mean they definitely deserve to be stuck in the eye for being supreme dicks on a global scale you know well i think your book's gonna do

a lot of eye opening not just uh you're poking i hope so i mean i made an effort to really source this so like the most normie mcnormandton could be like oh shit that's like my my ultimate goal uh so i definitely you know i didn't i hardly even referenced my own site or my own work uh went as you know primary mainstream as i could get to be like look look it's true it's happened you know starting back in history when people are more like it's more accessible to people that this stuff went on and then you show the continuity you know you you can clearly see it and it stopped yeah and it's still going on today just because and it's still going on well i know you've got to get on with your friday afternoon here i do i have to go to the dentist

how fun i haven't been in like three years so i should probably go so i put it off while i was writing the book along with a bunch of other shit so i have to go be a normal person now for a little bit well I won't enjoy being a normal person again I know you've been working really hard on this and oh yeah I need to get out of the writing cave and like live again it'll be nice to be over the finish line yeah totally totally I mean I have a little more to do but I mean it's just minor stuff you know and most of it's you know promotional at this point telling people about the book and where they can find it and whatever so yeah it's great to be over the hump it was really stressful But then I realized, oh, I know why it's stressful.

I was writing two books at the same time. So yeah, that'll do it. I mean, this podcast, we're going to get it out to a lot of people, but I think you need to get back on Tim Dillon, spread the message there. Yeah. And I've sent a copy of the book to Tim. He responded, you expect me to read a book? I hope to go back on.

That would be nice. um and actually a pretty big youtube channel uh not rogue in size but up there uh reached out but i have to go in studio so in the states so i'm thinking about that i don't live in the u.s for people that don't know uh i live secluded in the andes it's nice and quiet wonder why they want to make an exception for you i feel like it would be a meaningful interview to make an exception for well we'll see what happens um you know they currently don't have remote interview capabilities and sometimes that happens it's all right i'm considering it okay well not that far from my hometown so it's not that hard i guess if it ends up being in texas i'm not sure where

you're from but florida from florida okay uh yeah it's an interesting place um i guess in the covid era nicer to visit florida i think is one of those places it's like cool to vacation especially when you have kids but like i i having grown up there i would not live there full time um that's what uh my vacation in florida last year was a great vacation town uh i do not know if i would i would live there i chose texas over florida and the great balkanization of the united states yeah so all right we'll see what happens anyway thanks for uh talking on on short notice uh i appreciate you and your show nice i appreciate you and the work that you're doing if you dm me and say hey do you want to

record today and i have nothing to do like yes i do all right right on happy uh happy you threw that out there we'll post this on monday freaks go buy the book uh a nation one nation under blackmail uh very important work and spread the message give it to the normie mcnormandton in your life uh and show them this is well sourced whitney go enjoy the dentist as much as you can well i want to do some other stuff because it's actually it's like winter here so it's like finally there's like a sunny day where it's sort of warmish so i'm going to do outside stuff and then uh you know go to the dentist i probably shouldn't have even mentioned that but you know whatever sometimes when people are easy to talk to you get in like shoot the shit mode

after talking about you know work stuff i don't know sorry for everyone that didn't want to know that now you know i don't know the freaks like getting a little inside knowledge into the life of whitney webb go enjoy it i will all right you all take care thanks peace and love freaks Thank you.