TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #359: Sustainable Debt Slavery with Whitney Webb and Iain Davis

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

Join Marty as he sits down with Whitney Webb and Iain Davis to discuss their new series on Sustainable Development Goals. They also discuss the Rockefellers being behind the UN, the destruction of Central America's environment under the guise of sustainability and how to dismantle climate narratives. Follow Whitney on Twitter Whitney and Iain's article: Sustainable Debt Slavery "Green" plan to transform the global financial system The Nature Conservancy Board of Directors Henry M. Paulson, Jr Frances A. Ulmer Belize conserving their oceans through debt conversion Shoutout to our sponsors: Unchained Capital Braiins HodlHodl Upstream Data CrowdHealth TFTC Merch is Available: Shop Now Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel Clips YT Channel Website Twitter Instagram Follow Marty Bent: Twitter Newsletter Podcast

alert alert alert we have another whitney webb episode i know we've just recorded one like six episodes ago but she dm'd me over the weekend she said hey marty i'm writing a series with my friend ian davis on sustainable development goals and nefarious attempts to power grab by the elite. And I'd like to come on and talk about it. And when Whitney Webb DMs you and says, hey, I want to come on and talk about what I'm writing about, you say, yes, of course. So I know she was on episode 353. This is episode 359. You can never get enough Whitney Webb. But we also sat down with Ian Davis, her co-author for this series of articles. They've only written one. Go unlimitedhangout.com to check it out it's about sustainable debt slavery i think that's the uh

the title of their piece that they just wrote but there's going to be a series of these pieces going through the sustainable development goals there's 17 of them uh and yeah it's really messed up what's going on out there they want to control you freaks these people hate you they think you're dumb they think you're complacent they don't think you had the ability to see through the mirage of the propaganda that they're putting out there it's pure propaganda they use words like green blue sustainable renewable to make you feel like what they're doing is good for you but it's actually bad for you they want to enslave you i think this is bombastic i think i'm some conspiracy theorist listen to the episode whitney and ian have done the hard work of actually diving

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If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Whitney, back so quick. You were here a month ago. Yeah, but I'm back to talk about something else today. Not the book this time. No, and this is something I'm actually very passionate about. I know we've talked about it before, but this whole climate crisis fear mongering that's going on and is trying to brute force changes across the globe in terms of how economies operate and what they can do with energy and what they can do with financing, ESG being a big theme. That's why I'm excited to speak with you two. We're joined by Ian Davis as well, who is co-writing a series with Whitney that dives into the sustainable development goals set out by the UN and GFANS and this weird public-private partnership that's been brewing in the background for some time now.

So I guess I'll just throw it to you, Whitney. Why are you guys writing this piece and what do you think are the most important topics we'll cover today? Cool. So, yeah, so basically the series that Ian and I are doing is called Sustainable Slavery. The first piece is out and it's called Sustainable Debt Slavery. And it's sort of an introduction to the idea of how SDGs or the Sustainable Development Goals, also basically the same thing, more or less, as Agenda 2030, you know, are intended to operate in the sense of how they're going to be enacted or rather imposed on nation states. um so this series sort of started because um i found uh ian is like my favorite person to talk about public private partnerships with um because i think he has a a handle on it um that is like

really easy to understand um for people that you know don't work in this in this world necessarily and help explain it to a lay person and so i stumbled across this thing i'll just call it that It's basically the UN backed mechanism to back SDG number three, which deals with health care. It's called UHC 2030. And it is, of course, it's a public private partnership between the worst actors and big pharma and, you know, major governments like the UK and Canada. i think the us is on board as well um and you know many many other countries and it's going and it's the means of implementing this particular sdg so i had ian take a look at it and at the same time i was working on a piece uh aimed at another sdg that deals with uh ocean conservation conservation it's really a land grab in debt for land swaps and stuff um so you know it just seemed pretty obvious like why don't we just do an introductory piece and go hard on pretty much

every sdg and dismantle it because this is it's all bullshit at least what they're selling it as well i'm happy you brought up the land grab for the ocean territory because that was actually one of the top comments in our last episode i think you mentioned it um the last time i recorded last month and somebody was like we need to dive further into that so hopefully we can do that today but i what i think was interesting uh something that really stuck out to me in your piece is that a major driver behind these sustainable development goals is the climate crisis and you guys highlight that only one of the sdgs sdg 13 i believe has anything to do with climate yeah yeah nominally i mean i think they they cloak a lot of the other stuff they like to

bring up climate change a lot but you know in terms of there's only one sdg that deals expressly with climate climate action um and the rest of them are all about other things and you know basically the sustain the un here is using sustainable as a synonym for transformative or transformation and it's not the same thing obviously at least how you know sustainable is being used because of how most people in the public conceive of the idea of sustainable And obviously, sustainable is preferable to unsustainable. Right. And so that's part of why, you know, they're using that particular word, but what they mean is transformative. And they give that away a lot. You know, one of the graphics that is used in the piece is from the UN and is about the SDGs. And it says, you know, transformation. And, you know, it's all it's all about transforming everything. and you know as ian pointed out in the part he wrote in the piece there's an sdg um for literally every part of your life and ian if you want to comment on that i'll throw it to you yeah i mean

if you look at agenda 2030 um you know the the it states there that the basis of it is what it's all about is about transformation that is that is what they're seeking um and yeah and as whitney says There is there are 17 SDGs, only one of which is specifically about climate. And, you know, there isn't really any aspect of our lives which there isn't an SDG for, which the purpose of that is to transform that aspect of our lives. And that includes the most personal, you know, the sexual health in there as well, that there's an SDG to transform that and to transform, you know, family planning and so forth. So, I mean, there isn't really any aspect that there isn't an intention, and I think this is the key thing, at a global governance level to change our lives. And certainly, if we look at, I think it's SDG 17, which talks about the partnerships for how we are going to be taken through this transition process, it's very clearly based upon what they're calling multi-stakeholder partnerships. but what that actually boils down to is private private sector multinational corporations

effectively leading this policy agenda because because governments are kind of relegated to the role of what they call creating the enabling environment which means setting up the policy framework and also investment that will enable uh the sdgs to to to be rolled out or to be achieved and you know and as as whitney was saying is this that this means a transformation of nearly every aspect of our lives yeah one thing you guys highlight in your piece is that the imf which has historically been viewed as the super national banking entity that is sort of separate from the the private sector is going to begin merging with some of the biggest banks in the world, JP Morgan, HSBC, Bank of America, I believe, are who you singled out specifically in your piece.

And so this is part of that public-private partnership that is beginning to spread. And I think this is an interesting time to jump into that particular relationship between the IMF and the private banks because that's something I've written about in my newsletter and talked a lot about on this podcast throughout the years is the IMF by any objective measure is terrible for countries that interact with it. I wrote a newsletter, I believe in June of this year, when Argentina went and took out another loan from the IMF. Argentina since 1944 has had an annual inflation rate since 1944, almost 100 years, 80 years almost, of 200%, 191% annually for the last 78 years. In 1956, they started interacting with the IMF,

and since then they've taken out 21 loans. And so you think if the IMF is actually going to be helping these countries, Argentina specifically in this case, they would be on stable footing. They wouldn't have 191% annual inflation if the IMF is actually here to help. And so I think it is weird that we're setting these sustainable development goals and we're trusting the IMF and now the IMF in partnership with some of the biggest banks who have wrought some of the worst financial crimes and misallocation of capital in our society over the last few decades. And we're essentially handing over trust to them to fix the world and transform the world. Right. So you brought up two separate things there, because I would comment on Argentina a little bit separately, because that's a whole can of worms. I investigated at one point when I was doing a series for Mint Press News, and I didn't unfortunately get to publish all my research on it. Um, but it's my opinion that the collapse, the economic collapse in Argentina in 2001 was engineered by the governments that had during the 1990s. Um, and one of the goals of that was to intentionally force them to take out loans from institutions like the IMF because the goal was a debt for land swap, uh, going way, way back, uh, before Argentina's economic collapse.

even. There was an effort to sort of get, for bankers wanted Patagonia for some reason. And so there was this big effort for this debt for land swap. And even in the most past couple of years now in name of the SDGs, actually the current president of Argentina in talking to the IMF about debt restructuring, talked about the idea of doing a debt for conservation swap, which as I mentioned little bit ago is basically the uh repackaged sdg version of the debt for land swap of yesteryear it's a land grab but it's being justified as you know um oh this is for conservation for climate whatever but ultimately you know the way they're setting things up something that could happen you know um okay you're they're setting apart this area for conservation but it's going to be managed

by a natural asset corporation and that natural asset corporation uh you know can develop it ostensibly to conserve but okay oh there's minerals found in that okay they're going to set up a mining operation and that's not conserving but they can offset that by buying financial products that allow them to trade whatever in carbon markets and offset the environmental damage they're doing by you know moving those credits to somewhere else where they like plant a forest in the country on the other side of the world and all this googly gawk. I mean, that's basically the system they're setting it up.

So the IMF for a long time has been seen, like you said, as supranational, but a lot of people have sort of pegged it as being dominated by the U.S. empire in this unipolar model following World War II. And actually, there's this army manual that was leaked by WikiLeaks. It's from 2008. And they refer to the IMF as being a financial weapon. And they talk about it and also refer to it as being part of the global system of financial governance. So it's considered a weapon of unconventional warfare and part of this global financial system. And now and we saw this in a big way with COP26 last year.

You have Larry Fink, for example, of BlackRock coming out and saying we need if we want to get serious about climate change, we need to reimagine the World Bank and the IMF. And that's also when you have GFANS, which you mentioned earlier, the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero, which is basically Mark Carney and Mike Bloomberg coming together for financial hell upon earth. You know, I don't know any other way to describe it. They're basically saying, let's merge the IMF and, you know, in the World Bank, let's reimagine them, like Larry Fink says, by merging them with private banks and making it all one big happy family. So that means essentially, instead of becoming unconventional weapons for, you know, U.S. empire or the Anglo-American empire, whoever you want to think of it, it's now the financial weapon of the banksters that are basically behind the whole climate, climate change, sustainable development agenda. And this multipolar world that we're going to transition to. I'll let Ian talk about multipolarity. He has he has some great articles on that. So, yeah, I'm not convinced by the multipolar new world order.

I think it's kind of an extension. I think it's the natural transition, actually, of the unipolar world order is where it's got to go in order to make this this global transition to a new economic and new international monetary and financial system in order to enable that. it's something that the think tanks and the and the oligarchs have been talking about for a long time there needs to be a transition of power from west to east because that's where the new emerging markets are which is something that in g fans if you look at what g fans has made the globe this glasgow financial alliance for net zero a big you know it's made up of these different alliances they call them alliances well if you look at the alliance for um i think it's called the uh banking alliance i can't remember the exact title of it but if you look at look at that particular alliance the people in that are hsbc deutsche bank um jp morgan these these kind

of banks are in there and one of the um goals of of that um is to set policy so to to inform policy through the g france forum so when we consider that deutsche bank um last year well maybe it was a year before said that we really need to consider about what level of dictatorship we will accept in order to move towards um sustainable development if we're as whitney was saying this common thing comes up that if we're serious about it then we really need to consider things like dictatorship which deutsche bank were openly discussing they are now informing policy through things like g fans at a global level and that is what is going to be feeding into sustainable development and i i think one of the things that strikes me about it and when

we talk about the the uh the concept of sustainable development which most people probably believe is that that it doesn't really matter whether or not you think that that sustainable development aims at somehow mitigating the impacts of climate change even if even if you accept that climate change as it's described to us by the quote-unquote science um is genuine and that you know that we are heading towards some sort of climate catastrophe even if you accept that sustainable development is not the solution to it sustainable development has got nothing to do really with addressing the problems that that are that are said to cause um you know uh you know this this impending climate disaster for example you know carbon

trading and carbon offsetting doesn't mean reducing the amount of co2 that's been put into the app being put into the atmosphere they admit that in their own stuff basically yeah it doesn't mean that what it what it means is that the quote unquote big polluters can carry on polluting to their heart's content as long as they offset it some way through what is already projected to be a 120 trillion dollar carbon trading market which the banks love which so of course obviously it's a new casino dude it is the new casino and if you're deutsche bank who are then part through g fans are then you know at contributing towards the policies at a government level and then and that's when we get down to the national government level

who are setting the policy environments or the quote-unquote enabling environment to enable this this to happen then of course if you're a global financial institution like deutsche bank or i'm I'm not picking on them particularly, but any of them, that is a really enticing prospect. So that's really the nature of so-called sustainable development. Ultimate regulatory capture. Well, the other side of it is turning everything into a commodity, including things that aren't currently part of the economic system. So that's things like financializing what they call natural capital or the financial world. also human capital and social capital and they've even been pitching i think in outlets like new

york magazine i think it was like basically selling stock in yourself and like in your future and like how much money you'll make after a time and like people can buy stock in in your life i mean it's it's getting that your favorite your favorite blockchain wants to do this ethereum wants people to be able to sell personal equity in themselves favorite quarantine yeah no but it's no comment well i think i think there's a i mean i have a couple things i want to say number one just the people involved that's where i really want to get through to anybody listening to this and hopefully you guys share this because i think it's important there is a mass i mean the power that these people have already grabbed is incalculable insane they're going for more

and more and it's just like you mark carney we mentioned him hsbc deutsche bank mark carney and hsbc specifically when mark carney was i forget if he was the head of the ecb or not the ecb the um the um uh the bank of england or he was uh part of the canadian central bank he was head of canada's and england central yes he's been head of both but when hsbc had their mexican drug cartel crisis where they got caught laundering money for the zeta cartel uh and uh the u.s treasury tried to essentially uh shut down hsbc but mark carney stepped in on behalf of hsbc and basically said hey just slap him on the wrist with a fine so there's some terrible um moral hazard just with mark harney specifically being a public sector banker at the bank of england or the central

bank of canada yeah but he's the guy that ewan put in charge of all this right well so that's this is what i want to highlight these are the people running all this stuff and then deutsche bank whitney as we've talked about in past episodes i mean they were openly um allowing jeffrey epstein to use uh their their bank to wire hundreds of thousands of dollars after he had been um imprisoned and let free now they're how they're trying to work now they have an ocean resilience philanthropy fund that yeah they're big in the ocean conservation market now and it's a market it's they're calling it the blue economy and deutsche bank is trying to be at the center of it yeah yeah it's so dumb i mean you read the stuff that they're promoting

the groups involved in this including Deutsche Bank's philanthropic arm oh sorry did I cut out you're good um yeah like Deutsche Bank's uh uh philanthropic arm they're like they'll say stuff it's it's business as usual but they just put blue in front of like the word loan or any other financial product and all of a sudden it's part of the blue economy and it's really good and it's sustainable development it's great for the environment blue loan blue bonds you know blue investing it's all it's all great now well because primary color in front of it yeah well i mean this goes back to like what you were getting at with the word sustainable it has this connotation that people just uh just take for granted like oh sustainable exactly we should be going towards

it blue it's a good color green that's a good color it's not red it's not orange uh it's not black so yeah we should definitely go forward that's the level of mentality though that they expect from us right they don't expect us to actually think about all this stuff and they admit so much in like their own documents about it um but they think they can just get people because they view most of us as like kindergartners mentally yeah like basically subhuman on on some level um and you know they've gotten away with so much over the decades they're like well we'll just it's not going to be a hard sell because they're not going to think about it or really look into this stuff well so i pretty much been right so far i do have to wonder when i it's interesting

that you should say that because when you read through a lot of this documentation when you read through a lot of this stuff i do think because some it's just junk isn't it i mean a lot of it you read it and you think well how could anybody ever think that that was a good idea and i think you're right i think it's pretty i think it's predicated upon their perception that no one's going to read it the only people that are going to read it are people that are you know obsessive about it perhaps like people like us and and and you know each other as a kind of signal that this is the road map that we are we are going to use you know that that's they're they're they're relying on the fact that well with good reason they can rely on the fact that the mainstream

media aren't going to report it i mean that's so they they can they can know that that's not going happen so they can just put any junk in these statements and think they can get away with it but i just just wanted to to uh add something while we were talking about the multipolar world order where we're heading with the multipolar world order i've recently been doing a bit of research on that transition and i just wanted to i i'm talking about mark carney who is also who is also the he's a trustee of the world economic forum he's the un special envoy for climate change and he was a he was also a board member of the financial standards board and i mean it just goes on and on and on with carnies in absolutely everything

but this is this is this is what he said and i've got i couldn't believe this because i reread this talking about the multipolar world order this is what he said at jackson hole in 2019 so he's talking about this d as d state but this is a quote from his statement a destabilizing asymmetry at the heart of the imfs international monetary and financial system is growing while the world economy is being reordered the us dollar remains as important as when bretton woods collapsed in the medium term policy makers need to reshuffle the deck that is we need to improve the structure of the current imfs in the longer term we need to change the game any unipolar system is unsuited to a multipolar world in the new world order a reliance on keeping one's house

in order is no longer sufficient the neighborhood too must change a multipolar global economy requires a new imfs to realize its full potential that won't be easy transition between global reserve currencies are rare events it's an open question whether a new synthetic hegemonic currency would be best provided by the public sector perhaps through a network of central bank digital currencies a syn okay synthetic hegemonic currency might smooth the transition that the imfs needs the deficiencies of the imfs have become increasingly potent even a passing acquaintance with monetary history suggests the center won't hold let's end the malign neglect of the imfs and build a system worthy of the diverse multi-polar global economy that's emerging

so when people talk about this new multi-polar global economy and world order that we are we are heading into it has been planned over the last 20 30 years as as the destination that's this this is where this is where we are heading to so the idea as well that it presents some kind of some kind of bulwark against globalist ambitions is is just and china and russia are fully on board of course with sustainable development well actually they said that just recently um putin and g are meeting um i forget in which country on the sidelines of some conference i guess and um i saw earlier today you know clips from their respective speeches and they're saying we want to build a you know unipolar world is increasingly dangerous we want a multipolar model

that's just and fair. And they emphasize the role, the central role of the UN in that. And everything we're talking about right now is coming from the UN. Yeah. And, and then, you know, they bring up sustainable development multiple times. So, you know, they are totally on board with this stuff. And they had a joint statement a few months ago that you wrote about Ian, where they basically said it back then, but they're still saying it. And that's why I think this, you know, it's so important to go into what the UN is doing, because so many people conceive of the UN as, oh, it's just a meeting of all the different public sectors of the world, you know, and they don't realize the influence of the bankers, the multinational corporations,

and all of that at the UN. I mean, maybe some people do now in the COVID era, because it became common knowledge, the role of Bill Gates, for example, in financing the World Health Organization, right uh but you know the un does not operate the way a lot of people conceive of it uh as and so them talking about the un being the center and you know all of this crap we're talking about russia and china are on board with it because if we know this stuff they know this stuff plain and simple and this whole war going on right now could just be a big distraction too well i think it's a you know with ukraine you're just seeing a big real reallocation of capital and weapons uh basically what's you know all these all these weapons are going to ukraine

but only 30 are actually going to ukrainian soldiers fighting on the front lines where is the 70 going and why is no one trying to find that out um and the same thing with the money how many billions has the biden administration pumped into ukraine and where we have to pump more and more and more i mean literally and you have the german foreign minister basically saying you have to like freeze your your butt off this winter uh because i want to deliver for the ukrainian people and i don't give a flying f what the german voters think you know that's extreme europe is literally shooting itself on the foot on purpose and this is in my opinion a pre-planned reallocation of wealth somewhere else and ukraine is just the laundering point for all of it you're

having arms trafficking going on and money laundering going on and the question is where is that money and where are those weapons going um and not a lot of people are really interested in finding out the answer, but it very much could be related to this reallocation of power that we're talking about this whole shift to a multipolar world. The unipolar world is concentrated or has been concentrated in the West, and they're doing a controlled demolition of the Western economy right now and the standard of living. Why is that happening? And they're doing it on purpose because they know the sanctions aren't hurting Russia. I mean, it's obvious. It's been obvious and they haven't changed. So why not? Yeah. I mean, it just came out this morning that one of

their largest oil producers has had the most profitable quarter it's had in decades and and yeah europe shooting itself in the foot another focus of this show is the energy policy that's been enacted by the west where like why would you spin down completely clean and carbon neutral nuclear power plants in favor of unreliable sources and then become wholly dependent on russian natural gas as well but i think we should dive into the un and i think before we dive into what they're actually doing, we should go back to how it started, because that's one thing I mentioned to you both before we started recording, which you highlight in your first piece in the series, is that the UN, like you mentioned, everybody views it as some public partnership

of the governments around the world that was just started out of the goodness of their hearts, but there's actually private entities that helped get it off the ground, particularly the Rockefeller foundation as something i was completely unaware of before reading your piece you want to take that one in or i can do it if you want yeah yeah i mean the the rockefeller foundation were actually the two interesting things the rockefeller foundation have been deeply involved from the pre-war period going back you know before the before the second world war but particularly involved in the development of what we might call global governance through the through what was then the league of nations but also very heavily involved in china so the

rockefellers have been instrumental in our you know in in building up the chinese economy as well but that's a kind of a side issue but it's a no a notable parallel but the but with the league of nations that i think that there was a perception after after the second world war that the league of nations had failed and the rockefellers were particularly involved with the i can't remember the name of the do you remember whitney what were they called the the um i can't remember i can't remember the name of the u.n body that the particular that or sorry the league of nations body but it was something to do with global government uh development i'm not familiar but they but that was the transition that was kind of the transition point at which the league

of nations was was changed into the um what it's now you know the united nations and the rockefellers not only funded that department entirely they they they were the money the money there wasn't there wasn't any government money in funding that department that basically more or less became the UN Secretariat, as the Secretariat is now, that was entirely Rockefeller funded. So now it isn't, now it is funded by the contribution of member states, but it wouldn't have been put in place had the Rockefellers not been pushing it. Well, I was just going to add that the Rockefeller family also needed the land, the money to purchase the land in New York City in which the UN headquarters sits in new york and that's the only reason the u.n headquarters is in new york is

because of the role of the rockefeller family there so they they have a lot of influence and they've been involved in global governance and pushing for global governance and specifically the global preeminence of public private partnerships since the 40s if not earlier and so you see a lot of influence there and this is a family also that historically has funded things like eugenics they're very interested in setting policy particularly in the developing world because they want less people in the developing world. And, you know, there's a lot of things going on when you're talking about the Rockefellers, but someone like David Rockefeller, for example, in his memoirs published in the early 2000s, basically admits that his whole family has

been pushing for a global governance system for a long time. And people confuse sometimes the idea of one world government, global government with global governance. And Ian has a really good way explaining that um the difference and why it matters yeah i mean i would i would say that governance um is more about policy agendas rather than setting specific hard and fast policies so you create the policy agenda generally through the global financial institutions working in tandem with the international think tanks so they create what a broad policy trajectory of where we want the end goal for policy where do we want this to where do we want this to lead and then that can be then disseminated through organizations like the international the imf and through the world

bank and so forth that can then be disseminated to national governments and it's at the nat it's the national government level at which those policy agenda so we're not we're not talking about you know saying you will do this and you will do that but rather setting it set in a framework for policy development and then policy development at the national level is that's when it gets through obviously through legislation and through policy commitments that's when it becomes um hard and fast policy that affects us yeah so there's that's government so so so government is obviously the the hard rules that we that we are subject to but they just set a globalist agenda which is why you get things like for example everybody's saying at the same time

build back better because build back better comes from a document called the the sinai uh it was a uh uh uh again and a global uh policy agenda document called the Sinai preparedness for disasters I can't remember the full title but it's in that and that was written in 2015 that the first that we first see them using this term build back better so that is a U.N consultative document through UN consultation, they use that term and then suddenly that gets picked up everywhere by every politician and every leader because that is part of the governance agenda rather than being a specific policy that gets interpreted in different ways in different countries.

Yeah. So from an American perspective, you have Agenda 2030, which is trying to get us to net zero carbon emissions. That's the agenda. And then recently here we had the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the Green New Deal sort of Trojan horse through that piece of legislation where people were like, yes, sign the Inflation Reduction Act. We're tired of high prices, but it's really just a Green New Deal marketed as an Inflation Reduction Act. So you have the agenda set and then the government here in the United States passes the Inflation Reduction Act following that agenda. Yeah, but in the U.S. they disguise it as something else because they don't want to say what they're actually doing. So like you pointed out, it's basically climate policy masquerading as inflation reduction. One of the things that Bill did, for example, was create a national green bank. And I forget the name, but it's another lending mechanism that's supposed to be one of the biggest public-private lending mechanisms for quote-unquote green energy in the world. And it's going to expressly benefit one of the main lobbyists of the Inflation Reduction Act, Bill Gates, who actually is taking credit for getting that bill passed. Bill Gates created something a couple of years ago, and his partners in it are people like Jeff Bezos and BlackRock.

It's called Breakthrough Energy Catalyst, or BEC. And they basically stand to get most of the money from the National Green Bank in this lending program. Yeah, no, no, but really, it's no joke. And the whole idea here is, you know, a lot of people on the left, for example, like support this policy. They think, oh, yes, solar panels, whatever. This isn't going to be a kind of world where you're allowed to have a solar panel on your

roof and power your own house with renewables. This is where they're going to make power plants of renewables, but the owners are going to be Jeff Bezos, BlackRock, and Bill Gates. And it's going to be rationing energy usage based on how much carbon or whatever else you're consuming in your lifestyle and stuff like that is how that system's set up. But it's centralization of of energy so okay it's quote unquote renewables um but you're not gonna it's not decentralized it's gonna be complete centralization of of energy um and you know energy and food are basically what um power civilization yeah so if you control the energy which breakthrough catalyst breakthrough energy catalyst is now going to do by using our own taxpayer-funded money against us thanks to

the inflation reduction act um you know they're gonna take control of energy through by having all that money funneled to them through these mechanisms that were passed in that bill um and then you have at the same time the same people like bill gates buying up all the farmland in the u.s so they're going to control the food too yeah and then blackrock owns all the houses too so and then they own all the houses and we're going to become a nation of renters says bloomberg by the way bloomberg and you know mike bloomberg co-founder of g fans with mark carney it's the same very small club i mean it's even smaller than the one percent that we were all complaining about in 2008 this is like the 0.001 playing for keeps and taking it all yeah i mean that's what

we're dealing with right now and it's totally mental because they're getting away with it and there's people on the left that are like cheering on stuff like the sunrise movement that are like they're not even saying implement these specific policies nancy pelosi they're like protesting and just take action now any action i mean that's great greta thunberg's whole thing too basically you know and you know we don't have time to think about how we solve it we just had to do something or there's going to be this climate disaster and we're all doomed uh so implement something fast and here are these ready-made solutions and oh look it's the bankers that have made it all and all these people and you know oligarchs and it's going to create you know this crazy system where

no one has control over their own lives and um pretty much everything important is owned by in an extremely small number of people and they're only getting away with it because people are not looking into what's being offered to us at all. Well, they're not looking into it, and then they're leveraging fear with the climate crisis. People are afraid to do something. And actually, it's a bit of a tangent, but I finally realized the contradiction with Bill Gates particularly.

He wants the world to transition to renewables, particularly solar and wind, but focusing on solar. Bill Gates is also the same person who earlier this year. He wants to blot out the sun. Exactly. earlier this year he was trying to blot out the sun and he also wants to transition to solar it's like how do those two things compute it doesn't make any sense so like that small contradiction there a large contradiction uh highlights to me that this really isn't about a sustainable future

it's more about control and like you said energy and food are at the lowest substrate of maslow's hierarchy of needs and what crises yeah and what crises do you have now in the west energy yeah and who's going to build back better when people are demanding for solutions to the crisis that's to come in the coming months yeah it's already there they've already set it up and in the u.s the inflation reduction act was the big step towards that and like no one covered that story that i've really seen um no oh am i back no you're back you're back but yeah no the inflation reduction it's i mean pure orwellian doublespeak because it's everything in that bill is just going exacerbate inflation they're they're trying to like in the act they're trying to instill price

controls it's like price controls never work economically they just cause prices to go up yeah so it's like this stuff with the sdgs um all the stuff all the existing economic woes of today are fine according to the un uh and debt economic crises all of that can be included under sustainable development because if we don't implement the sdgs they promise us that the economic crises that await us are infinitely infinitely worse and the debt that await us are infinitely worse than the debt uh that will be part of sustainable development yeah that's that's one thing i think again we need to get through to the audience the broader populace at large is that these policies are going to kill more people than they pretend to save and

yeah and it's debt slavery and that's why the title of the article is as such because they they admit debt is a critical form of financing for the sdgs they are going to drown countries in debt and then use the imf and the world bank and all that stuff to be like oh having problems with your debt i see well impose these specific policies that are all you know sdg uh related and designed by bankers one other thing i should say about the sdgs is that they all have like these phrases attached to them that all sound really nice and utopia utopic you know like everyone can get behind ocean conservation and in free health care for all and no poverty and no hunger yay but the un has specific sanctioned programs already in place under all of those sdgs

that are already setting up the policy and the infrastructure to implement said sdgs and that stuff is is what we're talking about here right and a lot of it doesn't it's not actually going to produce what the phrase of the SDG says it's going to produce. That phrase is the justification for the entity hiding behind that SDG. So in the case of like SDG three for like healthcare, you know, that's UHC 2030. And that's what's hiding behind that SDG. And the idea of, oh yeah, free health, you know, available healthcare for everyone sounds nice. And we can well, you know, everyone should have health care. Yeah, okay. But they're not, but, you know, accepting that keeps people from scrutinizing what's hiding behind that. And that's what the,

how the SDGs are essentially operating. There's all these pre-planned and pre-designed entities hiding behind these utopic phrases of the SDGs that are something else entirely in every single case. And SDG 17, which is basically the focus of this piece, is partnership for the goals. But in researching this, I found an old graphic that they were using, and apparently the name of it used to be strengthening the implementation of the goals, right? So that basically is like, yes, a yoke of debt around your neck, and that is how we will strengthen our implementation of these unattractive policies at the end of the day. And it's debt. It's debt slavery. Oh, yes. And what's even more evil about all this is, again, going back to they like to play the feels and use positive connotation and positive messaging.

They're attacking the developing world, too. They say, hey, we're going to help uplift the global south out of poverty. and so let's dive into their plans to use debt to just land grab in these third world countries that are trying to pull themselves up from the bootstraps. Yeah, sure. So I'll actually bring up the one that I mentioned earlier. So the Nature Conservancy, you may know of this because the head of the Nature Conservancy right now is Henry Paulson, formerly of Wildman Sachs. The ATMs are going to be out of money by Wednesday. Print a trillion dollars. And we'll declare martial law unless you bail out the bank's Congress. That's Henry Paulson. So Henry Paulson is in charge of the Nature Conservancy. They've launched a new arm called NatureVest, which is all about investing in natural capital. So in November of last year, NatureVest embarked on its pilot program, and the title of their press release is The Government of Belize Partners with the Nature Conservancy to Conserve 30% of Its Ocean Through Debt Conversion.

Already sounding nice, isn't it? They say innovative project is part of a groundbreaking global plan to fund ocean conservation while providing fiscal and economic benefits for coastal nations, right? So this is the pilot program. It's going to go global. They're going to throw a bunch of money in the ocean and call it conservation? No, it's actually worse than you think. So I don't know if you've shown notes, but I'm happy to send these links to you so people can see. Yeah, we'll put everything on here. So so this global program, the Nature Conservancy calls it blue bonds for ocean conservation. And they describe it as an ambitious plan to drastically scale up durable ocean conservation around the world.

And this is quoting them. This conservation model is an innovative strategy to work with governments to restructure a portion of their sovereign debt, securing long term sustainable financing for the management of valuable natural resources. Um, and basically what happened here, if I can pull up their case study, they made a little PDF of it. Um, this is from their transaction highlight section. So basically what happened per them, Belize repurchased 100% of its super bond to refinance its debt at a 45% discount. A Nature Conservancy subsidiary provided the blue loan to finance the repurchase. DFC, which is the United States International Development Finance Corporation, provided political risk insurance wrap on the blue loan. Credit Suisse financed the blue bonds, which funded the National Conservancy subsidiary to make the blue loan. Yeah. Belize committed to achieving marine conservation targets and using a portion of

the financing savings to fund conservation over 20 years, part of which is prohibiting local people from fishing in their own waters. Lovely. Wow. Yeah. So this is just the start. You get debt restructuring fees, you get underwriting fees, and then you cut people off from food sources. Yeah, so I'm writing a piece specifically on the ocean stuff. And this is crazy, but this is just one part of it. There's a whole organization that's basically mostly bankrolled by Deutsche Bank, the UK government and the Canadian government. And their whole thing is 50 unique financial products to conserve and protect the world's oceans.

And it's just a crazy casino while also being a crazy machine for land grabs in the developing world. And a lot of these pilot programs are expressly in Latin America. And there's a reason for that. And they're probably going to be in Africa too. And the same people behind a lot of the stuff we've been talking about, these oligarchs, a lot of them Silicon Valley oligarchs, they're very interested in mining right now and securing mineral resources for the coming so-called electrical vehicle revolution. And really, more broadly, the smart city construction, which requires all of these insane batteries, lithium and cobalt. If you look at a startup, that's pretty much all the Silicon Valley guys together. Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn, and several others, they have this thing called cobalt metals, cobalt, sorry, and you go on their website, they're like, we have to find every reserve for lithium and cobalt in the entire world and secure it. because otherwise we cannot bring you know the ev revolution electrical via electric vehicle revolution to fruition right and so that means all of the andes all the way down including national parks there's a huge cobalt reserve in a national park down from where i am in chile in the andes and they're all this is supposed to be national park territory here they've already creeping and mining into it they illegally drained a lake by my house to start strip mining uh the side of the

the lake in the mountains and there's literally a national park less than a mile away and a ton of people live there there's a tourism agency around that like they just stole all the water nothing's happened to them and this is going to keep happening all over latin america because the mining here is so predatory and so insane um it's just madness and it's going to be the same for central america too because they have mountains i mean they're just this is a resource grab to that is literally going to destroy the developing world like we've never seen before And that's why they are cloaking this with environmentalism, because if people actually knew what they were going to do to the environment, there's no way they could sell this. There's no way they could sell it. And they are getting the countries on board.

These are with governments like Costa Rica, Belize, you know, they're getting the governments on board and they're selling it to the people as we're going to lift you out of poverty. And they're selling it as a left wing project. A lot of these countries have had U.S. backed right wing leaders for a long time that have been, you know, in the case of like Colombia, for example, involved in narco trafficking and like other stuff or, you know, allowing multinational corporations to pillage local people's wealth and stuff. And so they're selling it as a left wing thing where, you know, we're going to do what Evo Morales did in Bolivia. We're going to pull you out of poverty, but they're not going to do anything like that. it's just a selling point and they're gonna just take it all and that's what they're doing here so these debt for land swaps have a long history but they've cloaked them now as debt for conservation swaps and debt for climate swaps and this has been going on in a huge way ian and i were talking about the other day how 15 i think it's all actually of the uk's national parks are now part of a public private partnership no one in the uk voted on this it just happened last year

yeah and that's basically a land grab too so yeah your national parks in the uk aren't aren't public anymore it's a public private partnership that's financed by santander bank and estee lauder the lauder family yeah yeah i mean that's mental and there's no coverage of this crap and no one on the left is talking about it they're asleep at the wheel or claiming to be environmentalists and they're enabling literally the worst destruction of the environment ever and worst pillaging of the developing world that's ever happened and it sucks for me too because i like i live in south america and this is literally happening in my neighborhood um and i think a key part of this agenda too is that they want to depopulate here so because people would protest

the mining and you know all this stuff comes together i think there's a reason why latin america you saw i think more than any other continent in the world mandatory vaccination policies you know you had ecuador and several other countries like literally make it mandatory to get the covid vaccine and stuff but anyway that's like a separate separate issue obviously um but you know i think it goes hand in hand to be honest um and there's a lot of really dark stuff that's to come if people don't wake up to this agenda yeah you know did you want to jump in and say something well really just just to support what when he said because the ambition of this is staggering it is staggering they are talking about basically financial financializing the earth

and every everything on it i mean i i looked at something called the theft of the global commons so that the the idea is that the things like the global commons which are you know that you see that mentioned specifically in agenda 21 but also in lots of lots of documents about conservation and the earth and nature broadly define the global commons of those things on earth that no one specifically owns at the moment for example the andes now now some people own parts of the andes but no one owns the andes right well that's they're talking about financializing for example the andes so make it making that uh what they're calling a natural asset so what i mean what does that create it creates water sources it creates

in you know it has an environmental impact in and of itself so that will become a service that will become a natural service for which can then be licensed and you can buy and sell the license for that natural service so if you're you're going to do something like an open strip mine on the side of a mountain obviously that's going to have an impact on conversation on conservation so that's going to have an impact on sustainable development but that's okay because you can still do it if you can negotiate the license with whoever might be might be funding that so you negotiate the license carry on strip mining anyway but offset your your sustainable so you can actually i mean as as has already happened in china this has already happened in

china this is there there are a number of coal fire power stations that have been built in china which because they were using uh less harmful uh coal burning technology were paid for with un sustainable development grants so these these are these are brown coal-fired power stations paid for under the auspices of sustainable development so that that gives you some idea of what this is really about and it has got absolutely nothing to do with protecting the environment it's got nothing to do with conservation it's nothing to do with nature the idea is to sell nature as a as a service which can be licensed that that is what this is about and one thing i want to add to that so ian you brought up how

this is also about financializing the processes of nature so it's not just mountains rivers lakes whatever right literally the ecological processes that underpin all life are going up on the market and this includes stuff that like you know you put your body in the ground when you die that's going to be you're going to be charged for that now you know in this world they're making the process the ecological process of decay or anything else the ecological process by which water is purified by the earth or any of that i mean this is all you're going to be charged and it's all going to be part of this new crazy economic system and who do you think that benefits i mean they're framing this as like pulling out of poverty the third world i mean what a joke

um it's disgusting it's mad it's totally disgusting it's and it's just as anti-human as the transhumanist agenda yeah it's anti-nature but you know the transhumanist agenda a lot of people you know are pointing out how anti-human it is but what we're really facing is more than anti-human it's really anti-life yeah i mean all life yeah i mentioned this is an effort yeah i mentioned in the beginning of our last episode i know um you may not agree but i think it's demonic like i think there's like demonic evil forces behind all this that are really pushing this forward and just again the blatant contradictions going back to bill gates reed hoffman zuckerberg and their cobalt initiative like we have a testing ground here in the united

states it's called the state of california for all these hypocritical and contradictory policies Like, we've already seen what happens when they phase out reliable nuclear and natural gas in their state in favor of wind and solar. And just two weeks ago, the state of California was begging its citizens not to charge their electric vehicles. And so if you play that forward and this green transition is successful, like we're digging up all this coal belt and all this lithium for this EV revolution. But if we have a transition to these quote unquote green sustainable energy systems alongside that, like you're not even going to be able to charge your electric vehicle. So I would make a distinction really quick. I don't think it's even just the green. I think it's how they have done the green energy transition as opposed to the technology of the green energy itself. So they have intentionally set it up in a way where they're not prepared to afford people the same standard of living they have now with the amount of renewables available. And that's intentional. That's intentional because they're trying to reduce the standard of living. The electrical vehicle revolution is not to enable renewable power driving patterns as they exist now in the United States. It's to enable basically an Uber system for smart cities only.

it's not to enable like cross interstate or cross you know across the nation road trips or anything like that forget about it with the with the ev stuff it's going to be way shorter trips and that's by design and here's the thing when you it changing how energy works you know you this i think again ties into the depopulation agenda if you're able to restrict how much energy a person can consume you're restricting how much economic activity they can engage in and you're restricting how big their family can be yeah yeah and that's why it's happening this way people are writing it off as incompetence it's not incompetence it's the plan that's i mean that's been a big discussion on this show too i have a lot of people on or just pure incompetence these people

think they're doing good it's not incompetence they know exactly what they're doing they know exactly what they're doing yeah if you if you look at if you look at things like net zero policy if you look at that there is no way that that can work with a population the population that we have at the moment running our lives as we do at the moment two one of two things have got to give either we live much smaller much more confined lives or there are just simply less of us Because if you look, for example, at things like cobalt, currently there is no evidence at all that there is sufficient cobalt on this earth to power even something like China's car use. There isn't any evidence that that cobalt actually exists. so the idea that we can all all trans we can all kind of start be driving around in electric cars

is utter nonsense it's not true so with with current technology of course i mean if there's some sort of technological leap forward that comes forward but then you know who knows why why would we imagine that that's the case based on current energy usage and based on current technology and based on the availability of resources it is fair to say that what the sustainable agenda means is a massive reduction as whitney says in energy use by us well there's there's only two parts of that equation isn't there yeah yeah it's and then it can't be incompetence i mean so much has been written off from the competence in in world history take like 9-11 for example you know written off as just pure incompetent and all this other stuff

i mean too soon we just had we just had the 21st anniversary earlier this week oh sorry yeah yeah okay 21 years too soon i guess my bad so uh but i mean it's constantly used as you know same with covid19 written off as incompetence the lockdowns the toll of the lockdowns they knew everyone knew well except the people a lot of the people in the public but there were critics and skeptics from the very beginning who were sidelined and ignored and now they're backpedaling but i mean it was known what it was going to do then yeah and then you had the vaccine rollout which is becoming glaringly obvious was probably a bad so when you're just saying they're incompetent you're absolving them of any sort of criminal intention yeah so you're just

saying, okay, the world is run by idiots. And I would say, no, the world is run by professional criminals. I wrote 900 page book about why that is so. And I think I make a pretty good case for that. And if you think it's all incompetence by, right, cool. Yeah. So if you think it's all by incompetence at this point, how come everything's so coordinated between these guys with these policy agendas if it's all just by chance incompetence yeah i tend to i tend to lean towards it's very nefarious and calculated and well the more you look at it and the more you look at these people they're not stupid they think you're stupid yes if if you look at the if you look at the public health response to to covid19 and i and i've looked at it particularly

obviously from the from a uk perspective if you look at what the government did every single one of their policy responses increased the mortality risk every single one so if it was incompetence you would imagine that a couple of their policy initiatives would have improved the or reduced the mortality risk none of them did not one every single one increased the risk so that seems to me like a concerted effort to increase the mortality risk that is that is what they've done so for example in for example the the uk government told the nhs to abandon what it called its nhs standards framework well that that meant that the nhs could discharge people without assessing first whether or not they've got an ongoing care need so that increases

the mortality risk they then ordered the nhs to discharge every single patient that wasn't basically critically ill that increased the mortality risk they then sent them to care homes where they withdrew primary health care support that increased the mortality risk it's every single policy decision up one after another they introduced midazolam into the care homes that the gps were prescribing without seeing patients because they couldn't go to the care homes that increased the mortality risk they gave they gave midazolam to elderly vulnerable people who they hadn't even assessed what their pressing health condition was that increased their mortality risk it was it's not unreasonable to say and i'm more and more coming to the conclusion

that what we saw specifically in the uk but i think everywhere everywhere was a cull of of the most vulnerable a deliberate cull to to give not only just and i don't know whether it was necessarily purposely to cull people but i think it was to obviously that creates the impression of a dangerous pandemic if you possibly can. So you need people to die. So what we're going to do is systematically roll out policies that will induce people to die. That is what happened in my view. Here's another example of incompetence. Jeffrey Epstein's quote-unquote suicide and the fact that the guards were asleep, the cameras didn't work, and all this other stuff that happened to enable his quote-unquote suicide where per the official

story in his like suicide risk you know paper thin bed sheets he hung himself from something that was shorter than his own standing height so he had to curl up in the fetal position and dangle himself from something that was paper thin yeah uh so that's the official narrative and the guards being asleep the camera's not working all written off as incompetence okay so if you think jeffrey epstein killed himself then you can't really buy the incompetence argument for these people you know what i mean and i think that's a lot of people yeah it's a pretty big meme at this point so well you know there's no shortage of examples to say the very least and the more you actually bother to objectively look into the stuff it's very hard

to write it off all as incompetence especially things like you know in economics and finance economic crises pretty much every economic crisis of the past several decades has been a a wealth transfer to the same people over and over again is that incompetence or that that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it yeah it's happening right now as we speak as well sure covid was another wealth transfer policies specifically designed to enrich who you mean you look at the federal reserves policies a good example would be uh the work of john titus at best evidence over on youtube i mean he's pretty much shown that the money from the fed who'd it go to checking accounts of the ultra rich basically check out his last videos i mean it's mental

waiting we've we've discussed this many times on this show but like what the hell is it going to take to wake people up to actually begin fighting back against this this utter evil that exists because it's only like they're only getting more emboldened it seems with these sdgs and yeah so commoditization first things first thing don't be afraid of these people because if you're afraid of them they have power over you i think that is like a good starting point um another good starting point is to start dismantling all this fairy tale stuff we're being told about what's happening and the solutions are being offered right now um that's why ian and i are doing this series we think this stuff is really important and is very undercovered i don't really

know anyone doing deep dives on the SDGs right now, except for us. Or financialization of nature, except for Corey Morningstar, who doesn't publish very frequently and should be much better known than she is. But there's very few people working in this space. And this is an agenda with a lot more money behind it than most other agendas at this point to transform every aspect of our lives. Why aren't more people talking about it and looking into it? And so part of this is tied up with taking responsibility for ourselves we have to know what these solutions quote unquote solutions are that they're foisting upon us really are we have to take the time to educate ourselves about what's really going on here yeah um i mean there's a lot of different things we can do um

too in terms of getting off of the digital you know control grid as much as possible cbdc should be a red line that no one watching listening to this podcast or watching it should cross as soon as you start participating in the cbd cbdc system you have given yourselves over to it because you're a slave to convenience you have to get off it you can't be part of that system yeah do you guys have any hope that what they're trying to do is just getting too heavy and it's going to collapse in and of itself because it's just way they're going for way too much way too fast like i think covid and the response to covid and the vaccine rollout was way too much way too fast and i think that has a bunch of people startled like wait what the fuck did we just do

unfortunately i think we're now at the stage where they are at the destruction phase of you know they they don't they're at the they're at the point now where where what happens to us has become if you if you look at the purpose of propaganda the idea of convincing us to go along with all this stuff obviously they care about what we think but but but they're at the point now where they are creating circumstances and i would suggest that the sanction response to the ukraine war is is a classic example of that where they are creating circumstances which are in and of themselves going to be so going to have such a massive impact on everyone's lives that people are going to be regardless of the propaganda people are going to be

so embroiled in just trying to make it through the next day that they're not going to have time to think about challenging this agenda and if and if and if they if the government tells them that this is all Putin's fault whether it is or whether it not even whether they believe it or whether they don't they're not going to care because they're going to be too busy thinking about how they're going to put food on the table so that that is that is the level at which we're at now and i think you know this is this is why the solutions are not going to come from in my view the solutions are not going to come from us one continuing to listen to them if we if we continue to listen to them and continue to do as we are told then that can only lead us one way and

that is towards basically evisceration of our societies so what what we need to do is start thinking about each other and start thinking about what we can affect now in our local communities how can we if if you've got no health service in in your town if you if you can't see a doctor's appointment if you can't get a doctor's appointment you can't do any of those crucial essential services that are being taken away from us every day then what is the point of appealing to the people that are taking them away there's no point in doing that what we have to do is work together to replace those services so we need to and that's already starting to happen thankfully in there's a there's an organization in the uk that are looking at building not it's it is going to be

a private system it will have to be a private system and people will have to contribute a private level but we need to take start taking responsibility for those essential things because this the government that we elect is serving the global what i would call the parasite class they are serving the bankers they're not serving us anymore so we the way that we are going to be able to fight this is to take increasing responsibility for everything around us we have to take a responsibility and increasingly as we do take responsibility i mean we were talking just now about whether it's incompetence or whether it's planned it doesn't really matter does it whether it's incompetence or whether it's planned because if it's incompetence what's the

point of them and if it's planned who would listen to them so so we need to start we need to start taking responsibility for everything everything you know our food where our water our water sources our health services we need to run them taking the power back starts with yourself and your family and goes from there yeah it goes from the local level up and that's what we have to do for too long we've been waiting i think especially in the west well really most of the world we've been psychologically conditioned to wait for a political savior to come fix everything decades and decades and decades and decades in the making and there's a bunch of people now in the u.s that see this stuff coming and they're like okay trump 2024 no way we don't we don't we

don't you know you guys remember operation warp speed i think yeah yeah we don't have no we cannot wait for that person and even one person coming in they're not going to let that person get to you know number 10 or the white house or whatever it's not going to happen yeah that political savior has to be us we have you know a lot of people are failing to realize you know it also happens with like the debate about is the multipolar world order a good thing people see russia and china as the good guys or they're the heads of their government g and putin as good guys and the the west is evil and and stuff like that or or the reverse of that is also true okay so no the good guys are just the regular people this is an us versus them thing and the

them are the 0.001 percent that are doing all the stuff we've been talking about today yeah so if you want to get on the side of the good guys that's building a parallel system with your neighbor it's not going to the ballot box uh and voting for some dude who clawed his way to the top of some deeply corrupt political party yeah completely agree i mean yeah i know you know this way yeah yeah and i'm not sure what your thoughts on bitcoin are but that's what that's why i'm focused on bitcoin particularly because it allows us to create this parallel monetary system and financial system that's being erected on top of it and we have things here in the states that are beginning to pop up which are very positive to see like the beef initiative where there's a real movement

that's beginning to grow where you know people are getting encouraged to go meet their rancher directly and buy directly from their rancher instead of depending uh on on the large slaughtering warehouses here in the united states and i completely agree but that's the one thing i worry about like how complacent dumbed down fat and happy have people been lulled uh over the course of the last few decades that's the big question isn't it yeah and i think currency is going to big oh sorry go ahead ian no i was just going to say i think it's really important that we accept that we need to rid ourselves of our obsession with convenience and comfort totally because because because that sort of quality of life i mean it that often erodes

our quality of life we end up sitting on the sofa watching somebody skate around on an ice rink thinking that that's you know a quality of life that isn't that isn't quality the quality of life i would suggest comes from the quality of our relationships with each other and the and the the things that we do that we get for a sense of fulfillment out of a sense of achievement and that's we come from that by overcoming adversity not by not by sitting around being bored and looking for the next big thing or getting a better phone i mean what what is all this stuff why why are we obsessed with all this stuff we we would be i think have a better quality of life if we as whitney was saying focus on our local community and focus on each other and start

and start living more independent lives but that won't be easy not only will it not be easy there will be attempts if we if we do that at a sufficient scale there will be attempts probably by our governments to stop us doing it so we have we have to we have to face up to the reality that that in order to actually resist this if we are serious about resisting this then then we are going to have to overcome and persevere that that is the way that we that we can change things and we can because their systems are based around us being so much slaves to convenience that they think they can lead us anywhere. If we stop using a lot of their systems, they can't, there's nothing they can do, especially like things like the smartphone

and stuff, right? So I think what people should be focusing on and particularly people that, you know, are financially wise, like a lot of people that listen to you, Marty, um start getting your local community use comfortable if not already utilizing the you know the idea of utilizing a different currency a local currency and it can be anything you want to start with bitcoin cool but they could try and pull the plug on bitcoin and legalize bitcoin make it illegal to do whatever i mean we're sort of seeing executive orders in the u.s right with biden trying to to target people with crypto and stuff including bitcoin and all of that um so So who knows how that's going to pan out, yeah?

But, I mean, you can use anything, really, as a currency. And humans have done it for a long time, and it doesn't have to be Fed bucks, yeah? So anything you can do to not be on the CBDC. Well, that's why, I mean, I think it's very prescient that we're having this conversation on the day that Ethereum transitioned to Ethereum 2.0, where all the biggest regulated exchanges

control the validation of that blockchain. I think Bitcoin is the silver bullet on the currency side, but it is going to take a concerted effort by Bitcoiners, myself included, to ensure that it is sufficiently robust to withstand the attacks that are undoubtedly going to come from the state. They've already started, like you mentioned. That's why I'm very focused outside of this show. You've got to be prepared for everything, though, is my point. I mean I know they're already aren't they using sustainability as a way to

oh yeah you know because of the energy usage you're mining it so you know obviously you can't have it because of that yeah fuck them though I'm gonna go find as many natural gas wells as I can really quick I'm probably gonna have to run soon because my little people are home in Ansi

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in it a little bit because it seemed like a good idea but but um it i mean i'm interested in the technology of it in terms of in and i think more than perhaps the coins themselves it's the technology that is that is so promising that you know the blockchain technology because as i understand it you know if if you have this it's essentially egalitarian isn't it if you've got if you've got these anonymous nodes that are performing the checksums that enable the transactions to be verified that is that is essentially egalitarian but i think that the danger comes that you can flip that technology you can reverse that technology if something like central bank digital currency which is also based on the blockchain but rather but is the intention

is to control the nodes so you have you you control the nodes so then it becomes basically a financial tracking system oh yeah and that's why i mean here on this show everything i do professionally whether it be mining bitcoin or i work for a venture fund too and we invest in bitcoin businesses it's solely focused on bitcoin because they're all the other coins and applications of blockchain technology have completely been corrupted by central authorities and central entities uh and like and i would stress that again i know everybody there's a big meme blockchain not bitcoin blockchain is the innovation but it really is bitcoin that is the innovation it goes back to the energy use which is funny that uh the governments of the world are attacking bitcoin

because of how much energy it uses i think that's actually signal that bitcoin is actually a threat to their power, because what Bitcoin does is it leverages the fact that energy use is abundant and widely dispersed globally. And you can contribute to the ledger by tapping into these stranded energy sources that are extremely hard to find and physically shut down. And that's why I think we're beginning to see a large concerted effort by governments and regulators to highlight bitcoin's energy is because uh at the end of the day that that is where their power is going to be receded from is by building the system by leveraging all these stranded energy sources and um that's another thing talking about like messaging how do we get through this i think

i'm just taking a step back from bitcoin specifically but like going back to energy energy is life like we've described throughout this podcast we would not be where we are today I would not be able to speak into this microphone, look at you on this monitor, and then after this is recorded, distribute it and syndicate it out globally to the world without significant energy use. And that's like another sort of theme

on the narrative front that I've been very focused on here at this show is just really trying to highlight to people that I personally don't believe we're in a climate crisis. I think we're going to be fine. I think climate has changed drastically throughout Earth's history, And this is nothing compared to drastic changes that have happened in the past.

And even if there is a climate crisis, which I don't think there is, humans are the most adaptable species that have ever existed on this planet. We will be fine. And it's really trying to highlight that they're trying to control us by controlling the energy. Again, energy is life. It's the basis from which our society is built upon. And they're going after that. So it's just trying to begin to incept into the public that energy is good, we're not in a climate crisis, and you're being misled by these Pied Papers.

yeah no absolutely i mean that's that's you know going back to what we were talking about earlier in terms of and then going to the article that we've just that winnie and i have just written that is the key fact of it the fact that it's whether or not you you accept our person i agree with you i don't accept the climate so-called climate emergency either but it doesn't matter because that's not what it's about what it's about is is managing our every aspect of our lives particularly energy and food and and our health i mean those those are the things that they're that they want to have they're they're introducing global financial governance into every act human activity because they intend to both make profit from it but also

they can reverse that polarity and control it through the same mechanism so for example when we were looking at the health impacts of sustainable development goals i looked at i thought i would see what what the the health impact of of this uhc 2030 which is sdg3 introducing a global global health uh i can't remember what they call it the the global health initiative or whatever the whatever they term it but the idea is that i i thought i would look at the impact that that has already had on the on developing countries so i thought i'll pick a country at random in africa and see what the impact is and i just happened to pick uganda i pick uganda just just to start with just to see where what the impact was what i discovered in

about what that impact was in uganda was enough to write a whole article what what they what they what they've done in uganda through the covid through the what i would call the pseudo pandemic through that is they can they they restructured ugandan debt that's their debt obligation then they used ugandan debt obligations to buy in covid mitigation measures which meant that they suspended a lot of their public health programs on things like malaria now bearing bearing in mind that in uganda they didn't have what you could call a pandemic deaths per million of population in uganda from from covid 19 was 74. in the us they were nearly 3 200 so we're talking about a completely different thing they didn't have that that pandemic but nonetheless they convinced

uganda to go down the covid mitigation measures at the expense of things like malaria which killed four times more people than kovid did in in um uganda so they their malaria um programs were laid to one side their treatment their public health system which actually in uganda was pretty good it was a mixed mixed uh health economy of public private health economy in uganda but actually in african as african uh developing nations go there their public health system wasn't bad they uh that that was more or less crashed they almost completely crashed they didn't have medication for people that were on cancer screen uh cancer treatments all their screening that that that collapsed uh people couldn't get um made it the medication that they needed

uh hospitals shut down it was just a total disaster and they then sold them vaccines at three times the market rate that they sold them in europe so astrazeneca was selling in europe they were selling their jab which ended up not being taken up so much in europe because it was giving people blood clots they they sold them at 2.18 per unit but that's how much it cost astrazeneca or that's how much astrazeneca charged in europe uganda it was seven dollars so they they and they sold 18 million of these shots at seven million at seven dollars each at a markup of 300 percent 125 million dollars revenue or euro whatever yeah and they paid for that and the ugandans had to pay for that through debt restructuring so it is a scam like well it's

just epic proportions it's epic so that was just the first country in africa that i looked at i just picked that at random and that's what i found holy shit we need we need people to wake up and get angry get even yeah it's yeah yeah i mean we definitely need people to do to do that well um and i thank you for the work that you're doing have done i mean you so you want to plug of the book pseudo pandemic uh yeah no um yeah so i write at my own blog website um which is iandavis.com it's i a i n uh davis.com uh spelt the english way um i also write for and work for uk column i'm fortunate that i have quite a lot of my work syndicated with other people very lucky to be able to work with whitney whitney weber unlimited hangout

uh off guardian and people like that quite often um reshare my work uh yeah i'm an author as well i've written two books dangerous ideology and my latest book which i wrote in 2021 was pseudo pandemic um pseudo pandemic basically is about the the the information that was available during the pandemic because other publicly available otherwise i wouldn't have been had to write about it because i wouldn't have known about it um that people weren't told so every everything that that i could catalog i just started cataloging really the all the information that that that people were not made aware of during what i termed the pseudo pandemic and to understand why i i termed it the pseudo pandemic uh you can get my book on my website

It's freely available as a PDF download. And I only charge really if somebody wants a hard copy, because obviously there's a there's a printing cost for the hard copy. But the idea of the global public private partnership, which is something I know a lot of people have fortunately picked up and are starting to talk about. um i really owe that as well to uh an excellent researcher in the uk called a guy called richard d wall who um he he has his own site rich planet.net um he basically he pulled out my the the the global governance network that i plotted in my book he made an initial graph out of that an initial diagram out of that and then together we work together to create what became you know a lot of people spoke spoke about in terms of the globally global public private partnership so and that is a model which i hope people can look at and if they read the book i

can hope that they'll come to appreciate why i talk about the flow of policy rather than a global government i i think that i think that's uh we're somewhere away from that yet but that is certainly where we're heading yeah there's this ephemeral governance structure driven by these agendas and uh in terms of the series that you and whitney are working on what can we expect moving forward when's the uh the next piece going to drop what are you guys going to be covering yeah well we're hoping to go through all the sdgs so there's 17 of them so you know we've already more or less i think the set the 17th is probably the one that sets the scene because that's about the multi-stakeholder partnership and the and it's

kind of the framework uh the developmental framework for all the others so so we're going to look at all of them and as we said you know that there's a um an sdg for pretty much everything so we've got another 16 to write about but i mean whether we'll write about each and every one i don't know but we're certainly hoping to sort of be putting the articles out um you know every couple of weeks or so so that people can follow the series and hopefully expose um and this is what really matters that we can expose what is actually behind this agenda because it isn't anything like what most people imagine it to be and and you know and it's designed that way that one of the things that we mentioned in the first article uh was what we call untangling the word

salad because it's sold to us with all this fluffy rhetoric about inclusivity and resilience and sustainability and all these things that sound like wonderful ideas but dig beneath it and those those things quickly evaporate and what we're left with is hard-nosed controlled mechanisms that's that's what this is about well ian i want to thank you for your work it's extremely important i'm happy that we were able to sit down and discuss all this today uh i hope anybody listening out there please share this episode we need to get these messages out there we need people to wake up and understand that there is a massive power grab and at the end of the day especially if you have children like i've got two young sons and just thinking that there is

this nefarious cabal of the 0.001 percent of people out there who just so happen to come up time and time again throughout the decades as working together to produce bad outcomes just to think that they're out there actively trying to push my sons into some subjugated reality is infuriating and if you're out there with children grandchildren nieces nephews whatever it may be i hope you have a fire lit up in your in your body as well because the shit's serious and luckily we have people like ian and whitney out there on the front lines trying to wake us all up so very happy that we were able to do this and hopefully we can do it again as you guys continue through the series maybe we'll wait uh one or two more articles in the series and catch up

on what you guys covered in those and we can continue this conversation no i really appreciate it marty thank you very much it's very nice to meet you and um and i would also say that definitely you know cryptocurrencies and important and um alternative ways of payment are also really important we are gonna we are gonna need those those kinds of solutions so so thank you for what you're doing as well hey we're all in this together let's uh let's go forth and light a fire under everybody's ass it's time to take control people before you get controlled yeah absolutely all right that's all peace and love freaks