TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #416: The Scramble To Push A CBDC Future with Whitney Webb

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Marty sits down again with Whitney Webb to discuss failing banks funneling toward JP Morgan and how CBDCs are leading to a transhumanist future. Whitney on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb Whitney's Website: https://unlimitedhangout.com/ 9:17 - Ninja launch 12:11 - Banks failing and consolidating 19:02 - Story of Jamie Dimon 26:38 - Reexamining 2008 31:10 - CBDCs, biometrics and control 40:11 - JP Morgan, Wexner and Crown 44:59 - WSJ callout 50:36 - Noam Chomsky 54:55 - Are people waking up? 1:07:16 - Satan and transhumanism 1:22:18 - Google and Disney 1:28:12 - Whitney's talk at Bitcoin Miami 1:32:02 - Nobody's saving you 1:35:49 - Wrapping up Shoutout to our sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠River⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrowdHealth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Talent Co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TFTC Merch is Available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shop Now⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the TFTC Movement: Main ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Clips ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Marty Bent: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast⁠⁠

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like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean And that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Oh, we're live. Logan Ninja launched us. But yeah, Wendy and I were just recording a podcast before hitting record. So we had to hit record because a lot of things are happening right now.

We were just talking about censorship efforts in many countries. You mentioned Brazil. They were trying to fine Google something like $200,000 an hour if they allowed. That was Telegram, I think. But yeah, they were trying to bring Google to heel as well and have them censor a bunch of stuff. And as I understand it, the whole censorship law debate in Brazil is pretty insane because there was a lot of pressure from people in the Supreme Court, people at the top level

of their executive branch, pressuring people in Congress to vote in favor of the bill. They forced Google to censor, well, forced, I say, I'm sure Google was probably on board for at least some of the censorship since they love to do that. But asked them to remove advertising that was urging people to vote against the censorship bill and then had them promote advertising in favor of it. I mean, you know, it was really over the top. But despite that, it was rejected. And then you have Bolsonaro's house being raided after it fails. I mean, that's pretty crazy.

Brazil seems really insane right now. I'm glad I don't live there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're using the typical scapegoat of quote unquote propaganda to force Google and Telegram to do these things while they're... Right. But I think Brazil is, you know, it's the bee and bricks. So they don't, they want the right guy who's down for the game to be in charge of the bee and bricks right now. Right. as we move to this like multipolar paradigm that we've talked about before that you know despite not you know being the other side of u.s empire and in the west which is corrupt too right you know russia china and the brics countries are all just like the west on board for the sdgs and

agenda 2030 and all this stuff and basically what that is about is the stuff that we're all supposedly against like digital ids the cbdc um you know turning the entire natural world into commodities and securitizing it and under the guise of protecting the environment and all this other insane stuff all these countries whether it's bricks or the the u.s and britain and the eu are all on board for this stuff so you know they need a guy that's going to play by the rules and push brazil into that into that world right and lula is the guy that they've chosen for that and it's very possible some sort of deal was made when lula was in prison previously yeah so like we'll get you out of prison and get you back in power if you do x y and z i'm sure that was

probably part of the negotiations there he's like all right and uh just get me out of here give me the cushy job but zooming out from brazil i mean we were mentioning it just seems like we're hitting a weird part of history where you have here in the united states banks failing left and right yeah but everything's fine and it's nothing like oh wait even though it's clearly already worse than oh eight okay in terms of the amount of like you know bank failures in terms of like what their assets were worth and stuff i mean yeah oh eight brought with it wamu which was the largest bank failure in u.s history yeah in 2023 has brought with it i mean after today i imagine pac west corp is going to officially go under so that'll be four of the top five banks that have failed

in u.s history will be in the last two months yeah yeah but hey everything's fine marty um the feds got it under control and we got to trust uh you know miss janet and we'll be fine right it was comical yesterday jerome powell giving comments the banking system is resilient and safe and two hours later the fourth largest bank failure in u.s history well just like a week ago wasn't pac past uh pac westcorp saying like oh yeah everything's fine and rosy and we look at we're attracting all of these customers from silicon valley bank now and like everything's rosy and then it's like oh actually we've collapsed well actually uh does anybody want to and i'm sure yeah does jp morgan want to buy us um yeah that's a good segue into what we originally

What we originally wanted to talk about is the rise of Jamie Dimon and a product of all these bank failures, or a lot of them. Maybe J.P. Morgan won't get all of the banks that are currently failing. They'll get most of it. They've gotten a lot of it already. They got First Republic last week, and there's a lot of people saying they're probably going to get PacWest as well. So it looks like we discussed this on your podcast,

on Unlimited Hangout, with Michael Krieger a couple months ago, and we basically laid this out. it seems like there is somewhat of a controlled demolition of the regional banking system so that they can all roll up into the systemically important banks of which jp morgan is the biggest the too big to fail banks yeah this reminds me of what happened under nixon with agriculture and the agriculture agriculture secretary earl butts it was called this policy called get big or get out you know either become a giant industrial farm or we'll destroy you And that was basically the end of, you know, the medium or small sized family farm in the United States. So this is sort of like that for the banking sector. And it's basically the logical conclusion of the too big to fail model.

and I think what we're essentially seeing is the creation of two to three banks or one bank to rule them all at some point in the next you know 10 years maybe less who knows depends on and what's going to go on uh you know in the in the not so distant future but ultimately I think the goal is yeah to have the banking industry in as few hands as possible and those few hands are you know very down for CBDCs and all of this stuff because well I'm sure you've probably heard two people are like well once the cbdc's are rolled out they don't need the commercial private banks anymore but if you actually are paying attention there's a lot of stuff that's been coming out about how there's a distinct plan already on the books essentially to maintain the two-tier banking system when the

cbdc is rolled out and that basically you know the fed will issue the cbdc tokens but the wallets will be managed by the commercial banks like jp morgan the commercial banks will be like the front nui to the cbdc and that's a way socially for the fed the treasury whoever wants to bring the cbdc to send a social signal like hey we're somewhat separate so um yeah it should be okay with you guys so the added level of this right is like the federal reserve itself and how much of fed policy is helping this goal of creating this increasingly small cartel of too big to fail mega banks And the New York Fed, of course, is dominated largely by J.P. Morgan and Citigroup, both of which are intimately tied to Jamie Dimon. Right. And I mean, I don't know.

Do you think those guys would, you know, pull some strings on the Federal Reserve system they dominate to, you know, change monetary policy to further their plans for control and, you know, capturing the whole sector and dominating it? i think uh it's not that hard to figure out well that's what may be going on here but you know completely agree and i mean this goes back to one thing the whole it's double speak the federal reserve is not actually federal it is a private institution owned by commercial banks and i think that's i think many more people are aware of it uh over the last 10 years they have become aware of the fact that the fed is a private institution not actually a government institution but most of the u.s populace is completely unaware and probably assumes that the federal reserve is part of the government and they don't recognize yeah that it's actually a private

institution like federal express is part of the government yeah what was the airline um where they're running all the drugs in the 90s oh southern air transport no the other had america in the name i think um oh air america air america yeah that was southern air transport uh previously when it was owned by the cia yeah well directly owned by the cia they were still owned by the cia after but it was a little more indirect yeah at that point going back to jp mori i mean you wrote a piece at the end of march i believe another between now and then it's a series yeah so there's two pieces out yeah and so i guess jamie diamond's being vaunted as this genius banker who's going to save the system he'll yeah gladly take all the bad banks up to jp morgan

make sure the financial he's so altruistic marty he just he just wants to help everybody he's america's banker he's he's here to save us but as you point out in your series there's a lot of weird uh connections to people we've talked about in the past that have gotten him the place that he's at yeah yeah totally it's nuts i mean i don't even know what to do like bill bill gates just cares about your health jamie diamond just cares about the little guy and his banking needs and you know these guys don't care about power and control at all you know i mean it's just so mental uh to me that there's people that like still buy that in today's society um yeah please uh get rid of your brain worms and start looking at reality

people because these guys did not claw their way to the top just to help the little guy i mean um well where to begin with jamie dimon huh so i guess um i'll give a short summary and then we can go deeper so basically um the reason i wanted to start writing about this is because i had some unexplored rabbit holes from the book i did that we've talked about but i did mention in the book, right, that one of the people that was instrumental in choosing Jamie Dimon was this guy, big time Leslie Wexner crony, who had direct business links with Epstein named John W. Kessler. And so I mentioned that in volume two, that Kessler played a major role. Oh, thanks. Played a major role in getting Dimon installed as the CEO of Bank One. And of course, as CEO of Bank One,

which Diamond was appointed to in, you know, but in the year 2000, gets folded into J.P. Morgan Chase in 2004, which is also the same year that J.P. Morgan buys Glenn Dubin's hedge fund. Glenn Dubin, of course, being another Klaus Epstein associate. Interesting. But basically, you know, after J.P. Morgan, you know, acquires Bank One and it merges into the great blob that is J.P. Morgan, they decide that Jamie Dimon is going to lead the combined entity, right? So him getting installed at Bank One puts him on the direct path to where he is today, right? So who put him in charge of Bank One and what was Jamie Dimon doing before? Well, what Jamie Dimon was doing before was creating what is now Citigroup

with his mentor Sanford Weil, Sandy Weil. And they're credited with being one of the major banking teams that developed the too-big-to-fail model and had an outsized role, mainly Sandy Weil, in negotiating the repeal of Glass-Steagall because the Glass-Steagall Act prevented the consecration of Traveler's Group, which was Sandy Weil and Diamond's company,

with Citibank, right? And in order to create Citigroup, they had to get Glass-Steagall removed. And this was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that broke these two up, correct? Which I think actually happened under Larry Summers, right? And Larry Summers, of course, a lot of Epstein ties that began before that act, you know, happened and before Glass-Steagall was repealed. And at the time he was on, you know, hanging out with Epstein, provably in the 90s, his boss was Robert Rubin. Robert Rubin worked closely with Weil to develop that policy that later became the repeal of Glass-Steagall. And then after he stops being Clinton's Treasury Secretary, is offered a very cushy job at Citigroup. uh-oh anyway before that robert rubin was also the guy that signed off on jeffrey epstein's first

visit to the clinton white house so there's a bunch of weird stuff going around there you know going on there anyway because right before then right robert rubin was head of goldman sachs and goldman sachs was intimately involved with robert maxwell's finances and his defrauding of pensioners from the Daily Mirror and was facing court cases about all of that. And of course, Rubin would have been dealing with the fallout. And then the guy that's hanging around Ghislaine Maxwell and is sort of seen as this heir to Robert Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein gets invited by Rubin to the Clinton White House and then gets involved with Clinton fundraisers. All very weird. So anyway, going back to Diamond, right? How did he and Sandy Weil start? Well, you know, they were,

Sandy Weil had, you know, he was at Bear Stearns, then he made his own firm. And then he works for American Express. And then that's where he first hires Diamond, who he had been friendly with Diamond's parents after the company he owned acquired Shearson, which is where Diamond's parents worked. And he became at American Express executive assistant to Weil. And then Weil is forced out and diamond has offered this choice of staying on an american express or following while into the unknown right and he chooses the latter and so they look for a company to turn around and they pick this company called commercial credit corporation and when i was actually looking into the history of diamond that blew my mind because i like wrote a whole section about them

and their parent company control data corporation in my book uh because control data corporation had all these weird ties to the robert maxwell network that are really disturbing and commercial credit corporation was a company they acquired that was also tied up with a lot of these same intelligence networks i write in the book and we can talk about the specifics of that if you want um at some point but essentially they pick this company that's tied up with all these weird intelligence networks to build what is now citigroup commercial credit corporation is the vehicle that was used to create what is now citigroup yeah that's mental and i think it's It's important to remind the freaks listening right now that Robert Maxwell, father of Ghislaine Maxwell, was a Mossad agent tasked essentially with propaganda.

Yeah, and also had ties with the intelligence services of the KGB, Bulgaria, which was, you know, part of the Soviet bloc at that time, allegedly British intelligence. And I mean, but mainly Israel. Yeah. and so he was involved in a lot of things like the promise software scandal iran contra which are really sister scandals they're intimately related and you have a lot of ties to you know through people involved in the promise you have weird ties to wexner and the limited um and of course you know epstein pops up in some of this weird iran contra um you know network and its activities and we've we've discussed that at length before so um no need no need to repeat necessarily but

it's it's pretty telling i think that this is the company that they chose and it was sandy wild that he he claimed that he was approached by people at commercial credit corporation to take over that company but there's all these different accounts of why which to me sort of suggests that they you know there's at least one party that doesn't want the actual story told you know who really knows anyway they go on this acquisition binge over time and you know acquire things like smith barney and solomon brothers and become this giant blob uh called the travelers group and you know already talked about what happened since then but after several decades of being you know saying in sandy wilde's shadow jamie diamond and him get into some sort of fight in like 1998 and diamond

is forced out. And then Diamond is in this position of, I don't know where I'm going to go now. I've lost my job and I'm not working with Sandy Weil anymore. And I don't know what I'm going to do. And that's where Bank One comes in. So, you know, if I'm looking at this from like, maybe even a psychological angle, you know, what would they have offered Jamie Diamond to have him be in charge of Bank One, right? Okay. You want to outshine your mentor? do this for us right you want to be you want to be the top of wall street above sandy weill and city group team up with us that's what i suspect probably actually happened and in my last article i talked specifically about who was on the search committee that chose damy diamond and it's a bunch

of insane white collar criminals and like cia cut out people or people tied to wexner that did it So those are the people that would have made that sort of deal with Diamond. And it's really not that surprising. But ultimately, you know, the broader picture here, if we continue to allow Jamie Diamond and JP Morgan and the people behind him, to which he owes his current position, to take control of our entire banking system, You are giving control of all money, essentially, in the United States to a conglomerate of organized crime and insane intelligence agencies that want to enslave you. So this is very relevant considering today's events as it relates to the banking crisis. Because this series, which I'm hoping to continue, I really want to look at 2008, Epstein's personal role in the collapse of Bear Stearns. And the role JP Morgan, you know, played in acquiring that and some of the stuff before and after, a lot of the oddities there have not, in my opinion, been properly examined. And it sort of seems to me that a lot of these efforts that have helped further the too big to fail model, like the savings and loans crisis of the 80s, for example, and the 2008 financial crisis, intentionally created crises to basically consolidate control over the financial sector. And I think that's what we're experiencing right now.

Agreed. Now that you lay it out like that, it makes perfect sense as you go back to Travelers Group, Citicorp, Gramm-Leach-Bliley, which repealed Glass-Steagall. Glass-Steagall had a wall between the commercial banks and the insurance companies that allowed the mortgage back security market to completely explode between 2000 and 2007 to grow up to get as big as it was exactly it's a bear stern fails into jp morgan and um so you can see the order of operations here yeah and like i said earlier epstein bear stearns may not have collapsed if it wasn't for jeffrey epstein that's insane in the in and of itself totally crazy story but again i prefer to talk about that once i have the the article on it out but if you if you search for that i mean you can

find inklings of of what happened there and it's very insane in the context of epstein what we know now about epstein being this insane uh white collar financial criminal that was very successful and involved in a lot of very shady financial dealings tied to intelligence um and just like the savings and loans crisis of the 80s um which you know a lot of work has been done on that by people like Pete Bruton and others, it was pretty clearly the same deal. It was the CIA and a bunch of organized crime linked people and white collar criminals coming together to basically empty out and loot a bunch of savings and loans crises. And then the FDIC sells them off to a lot of these banks that later become the too big to fail banks. Like Bank One specifically,

the head of Bank One in that particular point of time is also listed as one of the pioneers of the too big to fail model, John B. McCoy, and Bank One acquired a bunch of these savings and loan stuff and some of these, you know, other, you know, controversial banks from that period that had different collapses and stuff. So, you know, it seems like if they're teamed up, you know, these big banks, if they're teamed up with this particular network, they get preferential treatment about who gets to buy these collapsed thrifts that seem to be collapsed by a mix of white-collar criminals in the cia for pennies on the dollar yeah right and they're getting sloppy with it too like this year particularly in the aftermath of silicon valley bank it's so in your

face now i just don't you had janet yellen come out and say you know we're probably not going to backstop all the deposits outside of the systemically important financial institutions too big to fit which she decides in closed door meetings what those banks are exactly and it's it's i mean it's insane what we're seeing this week what we've seen the last couple months with all these regional bank failures is completely predictable if they're going to posture that way publicly like what are people companies with assets with deposits at these regional banks going to do when janet yellen's like we're not going to backstop you they're going to flood to the we're only going to back you if you're at jp morgan or one of these other mega banks yeah

it's mental and that's that's a deliberate policy it's a deliberate policy to herd everyone into the arms of these mega banks that are you know going to be the custodians of the cbdc wallet how convenient yeah and so what is the ultimate goal to cbdc in your mind well i think it's all right so christine lagarde right um was pranked by these guys that somehow are able to convince a bunch of people that they're actually zielinski they got jerome powell i don't know if you saw that yeah yeah yeah and he they got her to basically admit cbdc's are about control right and then you have augustine carsons uh saying essentially the same thing yeah and he's head of the bis the central bank of central banks so you have the ecb and the

bis agreeing it's about control i mean i think it's pretty clear what's actually going on there yeah augustine carson's came out with a clip i believe it's two or three years ago now but he's essentially like cbdc's will give us complete control over the money who can spend who has what money where you can spend it so what we're having are two parallel things going on there's this push to digitalize everything yeah to get all of the money no more cash it's all online yeah the whole economy has to go online. Everyone has to go online for work and this and that. There's this push to make everything exist in the digital realm as part of the 4IR, the fourth industrial revolution and all this stuff, right? And at the same time, we are having, on the flip side,

a concerted push by governments around the world to completely control the digital realm. So the censorship stuff we were talking about earlier is part of that. But there's also these big efforts to end uh financial anonymity to end uh just privacy online have your government your internet activity or your social media accounts tied to a government issued id right yeah so everything's online and you're you're not allowed to participate in the economy unless you're online and that entire online environment is completely surveilled including all your financial transactions this is about an insane new surveillance paradigm and i would say too keep in mind this isn't just about surveilling you know what you do in the present moment or

what you've done in the past this is using all of that data from past and present feeding it into ai and using it to predict if you'll engage in naughty behavior in the pre-crime minority report it's here totally so you don't even have to actually engage in anything the state says is bad anymore they'll be like this person might engage in something the state thinks is bad yeah and you see you see this light nudging this creeping of this apparatus not only in the banking system but i flew out of newark airport a couple months ago and the new terminal that they just redid i believe was terminal a or something like that to get to security you have to get a face scan like you can't you literally can't walk through yeah so tsa is going there now um and are probably going

to make it so the only way you can get through tsa security is if you surrender your biometrics so now it's like oh yeah you can only get in the fast lane if you do it like when i was in the states last year i saw that at a few airports it's not at newark it's not even the fast lane just to get into general security you have to scan your face and then it has one of those opening doors and then you can go through the door and then you can go yeah so i've had to fly into miami a couple times in the past three years and they they require a face scan too just to get into the u.s as as part of the you know the whole deal yeah so yeah it's coming it is i would argue it's really already here a lot of it um you know i was just recently reading about how

basically ai's and in control of like most of the money right now be through blackrock's aladdin thing um you know that's mental i wasn't really aware of that so i'm going to have to study up on that before i can properly talk about it but that's really crazy to consider when you consider how many asset like how many trillion dollars in assets blackrock manages and they've given like ai a bunch of control over it like well that's i mean you could argue it's been around for a while like high frequency trading i mean you could yeah most definitely yeah but as this ai stuff advances you know you had a guy for example joshua browder the do not pay guy who's all about like yeah ai lawyers for traffic tickets and stuff he's like yeah so i gave chat gpt complete control over my

finances and look how much money it saved me yeah and going back to our conversation with michael krieger like what many people don't realize is that open ai founder sam altman he's also the founder of world coin where they're scanning people's irises around the world yeah yeah scan scan your give us your eye scan we'll give you some free world coins what a creepy dude and then of course his partner in open ai is elon musk well the justification i was actually talking to somebody about it yesterday and the justification that this person i was speaking with believes will be rolled out is you need the biometric iris scan to prevent uh bot spamming from the ai to literally be able to discern between when you're interacting with a human and an ai and so they're

saying to do that you need this biometrics data to be secure yeah this this reminds me of this argument that elon musk makes where it's like yeah we don't have to get a brain trip or we'll be enslaved by ai okay yeah yeah not really buying it how about we just make a new internet or like stop using it as much for everything agreed um i don't think it's really i need to i don't really think i need to give these people what my eyeballs look like no considering what they want to use all this stuff for like i'm not interested in feeding that system well i had a unlimited hangout contributor actually um tell me to stop sending uh when i pay them for articles to not pay the way i had before because they had to in order to access their money at santander uh they had to

surrender biometric information to be able to access their own money at the account yeah yeah so they're really picking it up right and jp morgan right has rolled out pilot stuff for face scans face scan pay uh hand scan pay which amazon is also rolling out right but what happens when JP Morgan says, yeah, so now that thanks to Janet Yellen and the current banking crisis, everyone in the country has basically put their money with us. We've decided to do away with credit cards, debit cards and cash. And from now on, the only way you're going to be able to pay is with your face or with your palm. Yeah, it's, it's coming. This is what happens when you give these guys complete control. So, you know, if you're going to put your money with JP Morgan

out of fear that is the future you are building uh do not do what janet says and take your money out of the too big to fail banks and find another way uh to secure and guard your wealth that doesn't involve these crazy people well that's a very please that's a very important thing to highlight because that's one thing i think yeah we've learned as a society in the aftermath of covid the economic lockdowns the vaccine mandates as they use fear and they create this false frame totally from which you have to operate and now they're doing it with the banking system it's like if you don't go here you're going to lose all your money um and they're trying to box you into this frame that they're putting forth but it's not the the only option that you have obviously

we have bitcoin um in other ways of securing your sovereignty what you talk a lot about buying land growing your own food becoming as sovereign as possible and that's one thing that i think you're doing a really good job of and we just need to keep beating the strum is like do not reject their frame do not fall do not do what janet says it's that simple do not do what larry fink says do not do what jamie diamond says all of these people are insane and it's not a good policy if you want to live a happy life and and be free to listen to insane people and do what they say i'm just you know i feel like that's common sense well it's literally the definition of insanity because these people have been telling us they have the solution for decades now and they've only led us

to this situation where things seem to be worse than they've ever been before yeah and and people that claim this is just incompetence uh that's not true that's not true this is not incompetence and the incompetence excuse they've gotten away with so much oh well we just screwed up you know i'm sure when everything gets really crazy jerome powell just be like oh i'm a dummy you know and not be like yo yeah i actually i i you know we kind of collude with the big banks that own us right um and that's one thing i think you highlight that makes it very hard to argue that it is incompetence and not some form of malice is how relatively small the circle of influences to get these people in these positions to roll out this plan yeah most definitely it is a small

circle like so you know like i said the reason i um part of the reason i was writing about the rise of Jamie Dimon is because I, you know, I had this, this known Wexner link to him being selected to the, to head bank one. Uh, and because of the JP Morgan Epstein case that's going on right now, right from the U S Virgin islands, that's sort of being, uh, you know, heard in New York. Um, I was like, well, maybe I can find something when I look into this, you know, weird Wexner Epstein guy that was involved, uh, in installing Dimon in that position is, you know, what became you know the head of how he became the head of jp morgan chase basically and dude you know i mean i talked a little bit about it you know earlier but i mean it's even crazier than that because i didn't

even get into like bank one and wexner um or some of these other guys there but i mean it it's a pretty small circle and um a lot of these powerful individuals well you have wexner on the one side but one of the most instrumental families aside from the wexner clique that got jamie diamond installed is the family I talk about in part two of the series that's up right now, the Crown family. And James Shine Crown is the guy that was the most vocal advocate for getting him on. And Lester Crown, James Shine Crown's father, is basically responsible for Obama's presidency and his Senate career, and basically him being like a big guy, right? And of course, it was Obama whose cabinet was chosen essentially by bankers at city group and um you know the wall street banks

during the occupy protests right that chose his cabinet for him right and in all that crazy stuff going on and all that chaos they're using the fear and the propaganda to essentially have the populist beg for that um that sanity that control so here's the other thing about james shine crown still today he's on the board of jp morgan still after he he was on bank one right and then had diamond put in at bank one with these wexner guys and then um after jp morgan takes over bank one goes on from bank one to jp morgan to be on the board of the combined entity along with kessler the wexner epstein guy um and uh since then he's been the chairman of the risk policy committee at JP Morgan. How interesting. So, you know, the risk policy committee, right, are going to be

the people who develop the policies that prevent, you know, crime from happening at the bank, right? Or things that shouldn't happen from happening at the bank, preventing the bank from engaging in illegal activities, things like that. And he's been called to resign multiple times for things like the London whale fiasco, because apparently he sort of allowed that to happen which is odd right and then of course you have jp morgan's role in things like creating the 2008 crisis and all this other stuff and what we know now also allowing epstein to operate there even though top executives at jp morgan joked about his interest in underage girls and he was sending nudie pics to people at the bank and you know not of himself of girls uh and you know

talking to a top banker there, Jess Stally, about what Disney princess he'd like to meet next and all of this stuff. Yeah. James Shine Crown, huh? Some great risk policies he's developing. I wonder why he's still there. Oh, wait, you know, maybe it's by design that this guy's there. Because when you look into his family, I mean, they basically run Chicago along with the Pritzker family. And Thomas Pritzker has been subpoenaed as part of the JP Morgan Epstein case. Interesting. along with the head of the co-founder of google sergey brin and uh morton zuckerman a top real estate guy in new york and a big figure in the israel lobby and uh mike ovitz who used to be a president of walt disney yeah and that's i mean going back to this jp morgan case around epstein

and the virgin islands another important thing to highlight here is that the ag who brought this case forward got immediately fired she did um for filing it and they're subpoenaing billionaires that's it should be pretty clear to people that this case has a very different flavor than anything that sdny did when they went after epstein himself or galene maxwell they're subpoenaing billionaires that had like are important people as part of a investigation and court case about Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking activity. And so that's another thing to bring up now, like while all this is very Orwellian, it's very scary, it's very daunting.

It does seem like things are unraveling a bit like we had was in New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, like calling out names like Wall Street Journal, Wall Street Journal calling out like Noam Chomsky and other this former CIA director that met with Epstein. And it seems like there's like a crack in the solidity of this cabal or group where things are leaking out. Or is this like a limited hangout where they give us some information, we'll hang with some people and then just keep going their merry way? So I think the Wall Street Journal thing is probably a limited hangout. They claim to have a trove of documents, thousands of pages, not just of the private calendar, right, and schedules, but emails. They haven't public released any of it.

they haven't said who gave it to them, right? So there's a lot of question marks about that, in my opinion. And I think, so there's two pieces from the Wall Street Journal about these documents. The newest one came out today, and it's all names that we've already heard tied to Epstein. Larry Summers, Woody Allen, Reid Hoffman, Glenn Dubin, Bill Gates, right? You know, these aren't really new names for people that have followed the Epstein case. Now, the one that came out on Sunday that had like Chomsky, for example, had some names that were new, like William Burns, former CIA director, former head of the Carnegie Endowment, former deputy secretary of state under Obama, which is apparently when those meetings were taking place when he worked at the State Department, which is interesting. because I talk about in my book how Epstein had this weird tie to the State Department in the early 90s and then there's this weird controversy and I didn't end up including it in my book because there was some questionable stuff about it but it was circulated for a long time this idea

that a State Department plane and a plane Epstein owned shared a tail number and that was in like the late 90s very odd to say the very least but you know again there was some questionable stuff there. So, you know, I, I didn't include it in my book, but the early stuff in the nineties definitely is true. He was given, uh, the right to occupy residences that had been seized by the state department. Like one of them was a former Iranian, like Iranian consulate, and he was renting it out. And, you know, uh, I mean, just totally weird and apparently had some weird relationship with the secretary of state under Bush senior, uh, James Baker. So I don't know. and then he's meeting with a top guy at the State Department later on.

And then, of course, the current Secretary of State, you know, the guy that raised him is Samuel Pissar, who was Robert Maxwell's best friend and the confidant and lawyer. So it seems like the State Department loves to hang out with these guys. It's not really that surprising because, you know, Hillary Clinton was in charge of it for a while, and she obviously moves in these circles. So, yeah, there's definitely some weird stuff, you know, going on there.

And then you had, you know, mentions of a guy that is a top guy at Kissinger's consultancy firm, which is interesting. You have the mention of Noam Chomsky. Again, interesting. But, you know, I wouldn't paint. I just wrote an article that came out yesterday about the Chomsky and Epstein revelations. And it's not, you know, I wouldn't say Chomsky was necessarily an Epstein crony. And what I argue in the piece is more that, you know, if you look at the arc of Chomsky's career, he's made a lot of compromises over time. And I think by the time he got a lot older, he made a lot more of those kinds of compromises. So the first one I cite, right, is that, you know, he in his early career took a lot of military funding, Chomsky. And then he became an anti-war activist. And as part of that considered resigning from MIT, which is like a very intimately tied to the military industrial complex, very intimately tied, probably more than any other university in the country. Right.

And so he decided to stay there because it gave him a platform to espouse that activism. And that's an understandable compromise. You want a platform so it reaches more people and whatever. Okay. So I'm not going to crucify you for that. But it seems like those types of compromises, he continued to make and made a lot more of them once he was a bit older and potentially less radical. I don't know.

Because how else would you justify meeting with someone like Jeffrey Epstein and Woody Allen and stuff? Yeah. So anyway, the reason Epstein wanted to talk to Chomsky, by the way, was all about artificial intelligence. And Epstein had openly talked about this in an interview he gave in 2017, which the Wall Street Journal did not include. So just more indications that they left out a lot of information that could have given

important context, including about like Ehud Barak example, another name that comes up in this Wall Street Journal stuff. Yeah, they declined to mention that he spent the night at the apartments owned by Epstein's brother where all these traffic girls were housed and was seen there super frequently all of the time when he was visiting new york yeah that's not epstein's residence that's where the traffic girls were housed yeah this is the former prime minister of israel for of israel well he's not just a former prime minister of israel he's also former head of israeli military intelligence and a former defense minister of israel as well so and he was head of israeli military intelligence

during the iran contra affair and when robert maxwell was doing the promise software stuff for israeli military intelligence um yeah so i mean ehud barack probably met him before 2003 as he claims um just like you know bill gates claimed that he met epstein in 2011 as bunk it's hard to believe what these people say about the relationship with epstein when there's you know indicators that seem to point to an earlier meeting right well that's i think that's a smoking gun and all this too particularly like the wall street journal revelations that all these very powerful people you can give them the benefit of the doubt if they did meet jeffrey epstein earlier on their lives and or early in the 2000s late 90s whatever before he was convicted

for these crimes but anybody who met him after 2013 when he was released from prison and knew what he was involved in that's like a smoking gun it's like hey you knew he was sex trafficking yet you were courting him and meeting with him many times throughout the years well that's like the thing that really bothers me about like not just the revelations about the chomsky meetings but what chomsky said about it he was like well first of all he goes it's none of your business or anyone's and then he's like oh and i met him and i knew him and met him occasionally it's a weird response instead of similar to bill gates oh no it's even it was even more like rude i guess you would say than than bill gates who had like a spokesman being like oh well we met for dinner

and this and that he wasn't like it's none of your business i mean that that's a weird response well i'm i'm thinking of uh the interview bill gates did like last year the year before where he was pressed oh he's dead he's dead now it's fine like you can wash your hands he's dead yeah well chomsky what the thing that i wanted to mention is that he said oh well i met with him because he served his time and in per u.s norms and laws that yields a clean slate and that to say that means you're completely ignorant of the whole scandal that broke in 2019 about the sweetheart deal with bar bar was included in this right well so the sweetheart deal was before william bar was attorney general bar was involved was attorney general when epstein

died and was arrested the second time but the sweetheart deal right the time served that chomsky's referring to there is for his first arrest in sentencing which was around 0708 right and um as part of that there was this sweetheart deal that was arranged and for people that remember a few years back alex acosta who was secretary of labor under trump arranged that when he was u.s attorney in miami that's what it was cost and he said he signed off on that because he was told to back off of epstein because epstein belonged to intelligence so somehow chomsky is completely ignorant of that and i don't really know how that's possible because all the scandal that came out with the miami herald reporting and julie brown and all

of that was all about the sweetheart deal and how epstein didn't really have time served right and then his his lawyer was that harvard professor what's his name alan dershowitz alan dershowitz one of them he had several defense lawyers who helped orchestrate the sweetheart deal and right before he was due to be sentenced epstein went to tour military bases in israel how bizarre is that um definitely what someone awaiting sentencing for sex trafficking would go do i'm gonna go to israel and tour military bases um before my sentencing hearing okay yeah i'm gonna go check in with my bosses at masad and uh i'll be back in a few years but he came back right away and it was probably because he was very sure that there was going to

be some sort of lenient sentence and there was otherwise i'm sure he would have stayed abroad odd right yeah yeah it's all so overt not in the open do you think so you but chomsky's ignorant of that by the way one of his meetings with with it was with epstein and ehud barack so yeah and woody allen when he was pressed on the woody allen stuff he's like hey i had a great dinner with a great he's a great artist yeah not a guy that uh abuses uh kids uh of you know the adopted daughters of his uh girlfriend and then marries one of them yeah it's also disgusting are you totally are you optimistic that people are waking up to this oh man i mean i think again the mainstream media stuff on epstein is like super managed to divert people uh you know on a path

that is completely meaningless so again like you know it's this sort of like bill gates narrative well Epstein's dead and people are like oh well I only met with him because he had money and all this stuff like no no dude a lot of you didn't meet with him because of that but at the same time in independent media just because you met with Epstein doesn't mean you're a pedo either right because this is a guy that was a big time like white collar financial criminal shadow banking guy so you know he he had many hats so again mainstream media being like um Epstein was only a sex trafficker i don't think is fair right and then that of course helps protect all the stuff like the jp morgan stuff i talk about in my series right all those connections and why you know jp

morgan might have allowed epstein to use their bank for all of these purposes while i openly knew about it and you know they're trying to protect the system right and trying to make him the scapegoat for everything bad now that he's dead yeah you know no and if you think about it Like the sex trafficking was only one of the tools in his belt where they used it for blackmail. And then you had the power broking going on in the financial system as well, which maybe some people got caught up in the sex trafficking and the pedoship, but not everybody. Exactly. Yeah. So, again, you know, there's there's a lot of problems when it comes to just talking about the Epstein scandal. But for me, you know, I think the Epstein scandal is important because it has large public interest and helps lead people.

If you look at it on a deeper level, like I try and do in my research and in my books, it helps you see how power really functions in the United States and beyond. Right. And I think that's what the discussion really needs to be about at the end of the day. So, you know, and even the fact that like Epstein was murdered and everyone knows it. I mean, it's just a meme, right? Epstein didn't kill himself. I mean, that's, you know, as a society, what we did with the fact that this guy was openly like offed in prison, even Alan Dershowitz doesn't think Epstein killed himself without help. Right. I mean, I mean, literally, you can use physics to prove that the bed sheet they apparently hung himself with would not have killed him like he would have ripped that. Yeah. I mean, I know it's just anyway, what we did with that obvious thing is that we turned it into a meme and that was it. Right. And honestly, when I look at U.S. politics and like media discourse today, I feel like if Joe Biden like crapped himself on stage, slapped a baby or did like the most insane crap in the world, no one would like that. and i anymore like even people that hate him it would just be like memed and then like nothing

would happen and i think but isn't that true i mean think about it like do a thought experiment and be like what would happen if if joe biden did that stuff well i've got that's like the president of the united states dude i've got a i've got a personal joe biden story for you i was home in philly a couple months ago oh wow my family went to uh a nice french restaurant in the city to go brunch and we sat down and joe biden hunter biden the whole family shows up to the restaurant it was very odd because you think president of the united states shows up to one of the busiest restaurants in philadelphia he'd go around shake hands kiss babies they give a little like tour media tour to show that he's one of the people they just went sat down ate and left like they didn't even like

I think it was because his handlers knew that he's not competent enough. He's supposed to be running. He's supposed to say he's going to be running in 2024, but the DNC is like, yeah, we're not doing primary debates. Does no one realize how insane that is? It's completely insane. And that's the other thing. Yeah, but I mean, it doesn't even,

shouldn't that be a huge talking point on mainstream media? The DNC is not going to have any debates, and the Republicans are going to have like 12, and the dnc is gonna have zero yeah everybody's just like let's not talk about that and it's like it's fine that's all i'm saying the dude could like slap a baby in the face or like try and curb stomp a baby and like nothing would happen they'd just be like oh uncle joe well do you think that'd be that do you think they're playing two games here though they're like they have two options one is like all right we're gonna try and force joe through but if his health is deteriorating

at an increasing pace we need a backup plan so did you see the fbi whistleblower that came out yesterday oh yeah about the pay-to-play scheme with a foreign national yeah but the clintons are all about play-to-play the dnc is is the play-to-play part well not that republicans don't do it i mean they all do it right but the dnc with the clintons are just like everyone knew that was happening especially with the clinton foundation like it's proven you know and nothing happened so you don't think anything will come from this whistleblower no no i don't think so i mean i think it'll just be a fox news talking point right and they'll be like you know it's it's like what happened during the obama administration fox news is screaming about obama and everything

he did and then like everyone else doesn't care you know and they're just like oh that's fox yeah and then when it's the other way around it's like oh my god trump you know i mean it's just this retarded media dialect i hate it so much because it it's it's just keeping uh anything productive from ever happening and uh the american people are being completely looted and pillaged and having their standard of living destroyed and you know we're arguing about you know stuff that doesn't matter it's uh i mean i get really frustrated about this stuff because you know just even in my work i'm like shouldn't people care more about some of this stuff and not just even my work but the work of other people that like

showcases a lot of the crazy stuff going on with people at the top well you know maybe i'm naive maybe i'm too optimistic maybe i'm too much of an eternal optimist but i do think independent journalists like yourself are making a material impact and i do think well i hope so right yeah and i do think what happened last week with tucker was like a big awakening moment for a lot of people like holy shit it took tucker off like what else is going on and do you think like the the greenwalds yourself are beginning to garner more attention and more um more authority in terms of like journalists that that are out there people are actually reading and listening to well i think you know mainstream media is shit and everyone knows it at this point well at least

most people know it and so you know they're looking for other places to find information and i mean that's positive the question is like you know are people just going to binge watch videos all day or are they going to start actually doing something about it in their lives you know yeah and i think that's ultimately what it's going to have to you know end up coming down to if people are gonna you know make any difficult choices because like i've said a lot of times i think people have become so accustomed uh to comfort and not really having to do anything in terms of like politics because we've been trained as a society to outsource everything to other people right to corporations to the government whatever and so you know that's why

we have this sovereignty crisis right because people have been trained or society has been created so that we don't really have to take personal responsibility for most of our lives and our needs yeah you know and so we have to make that change and again i think the most important way to show people to make that change is that you should not be validating the current system at all instead you should be divesting from it and putting your money and time into building a new system so if you're going to vote in 2024 uh i see it as you know you're essentially validating that system right because they're not going to let rfk jr get the win the dnc nomination and you know whoever gets installed as a republican guy maybe they'll be better than joe biden is

but by how much right can we really afford to keep going down this hole we're going down to like you know insane tyrannical land like i'm just no because it you know if all the independent media discourse between now and the 2024 election is about who to vote for we're screwed that's how i feel and we'll be squandering a lot of this awareness i completely agree that's happening around people yeah that's that's why we need to highlight things like bitcoin the sovereignty movement supporting your local ranchers local farmers figuring out how to grow a garden but on that point completely agree like that's what people need to wake up and realize we're less than a month away from the debt ceiling the government is essentially insolvent is

literally insolvent it's been insolvent but now it's retardedly insolvent yeah and they can't kick the can down the road anymore and that's where the cbdc comes in yeah and that's that'll be a bait and switch that's what people need to internalize there literally is no way to vote your way out of this insolvency it is structurally insolvent there's no saving it from within you need to create these parallel systems yeah because essentially um you know through the petrodollar system the dollar is a global reserve currency which it's about to lose that has sort of granted the american public with a sort of subsidy and insulation from the actual cost of things to an extent right that's going away yeah and then you have this yeah and then

you have this banking crisis stuff on the other side and all you know the debt issue you know is money print are we about to see helicopter money with the debts i mean how how insane is this going to get it's obviously not a pretty picture and people really need to start seriously thinking about what this means because it's getting real and the people that have led us here are creating a new system so they don't have pitchforks at their door in a year's time Well, I think that's a very important thing to highlight, too, is the people who have led us here are petrified. They may not show that publicly of Jerome Powell, Jamie Dimon, Janet Yellen, Joe Biden coming out. Well, they can't show publicly, right?

They have to be like, it's not 08, everything's fine. It's literally a confidence game. And so for anybody out there listening who thinks the government can solve this problem, you need to realize that they are petrified. they've realized they've screwed up the system beyond repair and they are not the ones to fix it like you need to engender a sense of self-confidence that you have the facilities the intellect the ability to make a decision to opt out of that system and i think that's one thing i actually had a conversation this morning that's the most high leverage thing we can do as independent journalists as individuals that see what's coming is really

wake up that silent majority that has that feeling in their gut that something is terribly wrong historically they've depended on the government to fix the problem obviously it's led us to the situation they're not going to be able to fix the problem they're only going to make it worse like getting to that silent majority that knows something's wrong saying hey there are other options you don't need to depend on daddy state to fix this for you in fact they're only going to make no definitely don't depend on the state because the way it's being set up is that you will be a slave forever if you follow the state and look are waiting for a handout from the state when things go belly up they'll be like okay join our new slavery club you'll never escape and

either will your children okay i mean if you're willing to sign off on that and they've already enslaved you before they've even rolled out their system you know but if you're not willing to lift a finger to actually do something about it you know they they've they've got you yeah already But it really does feel like, and I know people have tried to call it many times in the past, but I do think, I do have this gut feeling, this instinctual feeling that we have gotten to the point in the path where we're at the fork and we're about to make the turn one way or the other. And it is, this is one of the most important times in human history. It's like, which way are we going to go? And that decision is going to be made in the next year or two. Right. Right. Because this isn't just an economic crisis. Right. Like I said earlier, these guys have really bitten off more than they can chew. They're trying to do so much. They're not trying to just change the economy. They're trying to redefine what money is. I mean, that's really what the CBDC is all about.

um they're trying to usher in this thing they call the fourth industrial revolution which they define as a merging of our physical and biological cells with technology it's transhumanism right and people that are futurists and transhumanists and you know on for this stuff essentially say this is about changing humanity and as humanity as we know it will be gone in 100 to 200 years so this is like really an existential crisis if there ever was one because if we successfully are herded into the system we're creating a human sovereignty and humanity as we've understood it since humans have been around it will cease to exist are we really going to co-sign that like i just don't understand like are people really that lazy while they're like yeah

okay well you know i mean uh netflix and beer as long as i have that it's cool i mean are we are we really just going to be stuck in that where they do this stuff to everybody when you're such a you're such a luddite you know we need the chips it's our evolution you're just scared of of technological evolution here yeah well they call it evolution right but trans transhumanism is the new eugenics and it's explicitly so the former head of the british eugenics society came up with the term transhumanism and said this will be the new eugenics and 10 years before that when he was in charge of unesco at the un he said we have to make the unthinkable thinkable again with respect to eugenics and he did that by coming up with this concept of transhumanism

and this is where you have like people like uval harari going out there and being the front man to like uh get people comfortable with this and pitch all of it but it's uh harari's insane if you actually read what he writes about the stuff and he's talking about making a new religion around ai which is also stuff not just he's saying eric schmidt and henry kissinger who have teamed up to create the ultimate doom squad are also going around saying the same crap yeah it's either going to cause a revolution or ai will make a new religion what do you think they want to choose guys well i mean i don't know how you think about this but i think it's like overtly satanic like demonic like there there is like it's literally an aversion to god like we are the gods now

we're gonna transmute humans into this new technology like we can do it it's very if you're a christian or catholic like myself it's very it's a very big affront to god well even if you look at it from a more like um you know i guess non-theistic view these people are very materialist right and so you know traditionally people view satanism as extreme materialism when you get into like actual the study of of like religion itself right you know it's materialism in in against spiritualism right and so like hedonism the most material the most material you can be right is is by some people at least sort of equated with satanism right so you know basically if you're going to create an ai and say it's god now and

make you know uh it i i can see why people view it that way it's let me go back to stuff harari likes to say about this ai religion he calls it dataism or at least he has in the past and it's it's like saying it's basically this idea of like we need to put sensors on every living thing whether they like it or not because we have to create this new like connectivity between all things okay so if you're not an atheist or an extreme materialist uh even like indigenous religions from thousands of years ago pre-christian paganism those connections exist already right so they're just trying to make an artificial hyper materialistic version of that that they can create for themselves and ultimately they can control so this is you know people trying to play god and if

you know if you want to go back to the the satanist you know analogy the whole idea of lucifer right is him trying to be bigger than god yeah at the end of the day so you know for christians i can see why they see it that way right so at you know but a lot of people get turned off when like you use that term you know and so that's why i'm trying to sort of explain in these other terms maybe that are helpful to sort of understand what a lot of these views are and why people might use those terms for it because if you know if you have that other understanding it doesn't seem as you know as weird to some people that that aren't you know religious right so i i mainly say that because you know think about stuff going on in the 80s the franklin

scandal broke which is a real thing but people sort of claimed oh it's satanic panic you know and so when people to a certain segment of the american population when someone says satanism they just turn off their brain you know what i mean no so essentially what you have yeah so you know to try and reach those people you know i tend to try and phrase it in in sort of different words that this is an effort to create basically in divorce humanity from the spirituality that humans have had during, during Christianity, pre-Christianity, any religion, really, even animism and stuff, you know, to divorce us from any sort of connection, not just to, um, each other in the universe, but to the natural world as well. Right. Um, and to basically

recreate humanity in a way that serves them, I guess, at the end of the day. And, and so much that is happening right now is about divorcing us from the natural world you know um having us live in this digital realm and then going even deeper and living in the metaverse and all of this stuff right neck down looking at your phone swiping the reels that's what they want yeah so i you know i think a big part of uh the system today is the smartphone and smartphone addiction and its impact on society. And I think if people can't imagine living without their smartphone, I think it's going to be very easy for people like that to be herded into the system. Yeah.

Because they control the smartphone. I mean, even if you have like Graphene OS or a de-Googled Android, which is definitely, you know, the only feasible thing, I think, you know, to avoid using a big tech smartphone, which I definitely would consider people or urge people not to use but this you know the telecommunications companies verizon at&t all of that i mean they're all part of this thing so like you won't have internet access you won't have data can you live without that a lot of people can't you know it's literally a lot of people can't even live without like twitter and tiktok and whatever so yeah you know fire fire hydrant oh okay i didn't know i thought for a second well we had an earthquake here last night so I was like oh maybe that's

on my end and something insane's happening yeah I was like at one in the morning it was only like four on the Richter scale but it was like right near where I live so did it wake you up uh yeah a little bit the kids didn't wake up so that was helpful I guess in a sense um yeah anyway sorry Maybe I've gone on some tangents here, but ultimately I think, um, you know, if you've become so invested in their technology that you can't imagine living without it, that technology, that addiction is what's being used to help herd you into the system. Right. And again, you know, to get us in there, if you imagine it sort of as like an animal pen

or corral, right. They have two tools to get us in there. They have the carrot and they have the stick. Right. and the carrot is comfort and convenience and so so much of this new stuff coming out right now particularly in health care that's either overtly or covertly transhumanist it's it's convenience is almost always the sales pitch right and i think that will be two of the brain machine interface you know like oh you'll just have your smartphone in your head now how convenient yeah right or even

like face pay and paying with your palm like JP Morgan's rolling out how convenient you don't have to carry a wallet anymore no one can steal your money off of you and you know there's muggings will stop right and then you know the stick is fear so I think that's pretty clear you know do this or you'll lose all your money do this or we'll put you in camps you know stuff like that yeah there's i mean there's another theory out there too digging into themes in the us particularly right now that has sort of i sort of see how it could be real which is that like this whole transgender movement and theme in the us is is a bit of a nudging towards the transhumanist because first they have to essentially destroy definitions of things that we know to be true

to create the possibility for us to be open to becoming transhumanist first it starts with like uh i could be a woman or a man or zero or whatever um and then it's like yeah i can be a computer it's like somewhat of a normalization tactic to to lead us toward that well you know the way it's it's it's promoted and you know there are people who were transgender before it was being promoted and popularized right so i'm talking specifically about the people that if this effort to promote it and popularize it had never manifested would probably not have identified as transgender i think there's one of the reasons it's happening is because like you say there's a this effort to sort of uh make people disassociate from their physical reality like dis so they're disassociated

from their physical body they don't identify with their physical body right and so if you don't identify with your physical body you know from that point and probably part of why this is being targeted at young people um it's much easier to be like well in this world you can be whoever you want to be and you can change yourself all the time like the metaverse stuff right and there was even like an american idol during the covid there was like this american idol equivalent show and it wasn't it was basically people not performing themselves they'd sing and do a mic but not in front of people what would perform in front of people was an avatar that they designed a virtual them that expresses their true self because they you know for whatever reason didn't

like how they looked or something yeah so i mean i think there's an different efforts on a societal level to manipulate and use certain things uh in in certain um insecurities or dysphorias that been around you know long before now uh to push people into this you know world that they're hoping to create at the end of the day yeah and they're using social media to get these messages out there and people are addicted to it that's the other weird thing when it comes like smartphones and social media yeah like the data is out there it's very obviously affecting the mental health of young people particularly more specifically young girls yeah yeah most definitely i was reading this interesting article in unheard that was sort of talking about the anorexia phenomena

in the 90s and its similarities to the prominence of transgenderism in the past 10 years how it being sort of disproportionate among like teenage biological females um and sort of the i would definitely recommend people read it because it definitely did have some insights that i thought were kind of interesting in terms of like why this might be pushed and why it might have been so successful um but yeah i mean there's a major effort to uh totally destroy today's young people and it really shouldn't be surprising um when you consider you know all the revelations right about just how messed up hollywood is um you know the elite circles are and how they control our media our education system and all sorts of stuff so over time you know they're obviously

going all those things are going to have a major impact on young people yeah and i think the smartphone is a big part of that because you're allowing kids to sort of access uh these worlds and their parents have no idea what's going on there and what's happening and don't know right yeah what was it the game roblox people it's like a popular children's game and they thought they were playing with other kids but they're really playing with adults who are grooming them and parents are completely unaware yeah right right um so you know that's part of it but you know even away from games like that i'll just give an example so um my ex had an older son who uh when we lived together uh he was probably like eight or nine and at his school there were kids

with their own phones this is here in chile right um and they were just at recess just looking at like really intense sadistic porn and so like you think about when we were kids and like guys you know that age you're like oh i want to look at boobies and they pick up like maxim or playboy and they like hide it under their mattress and stuff right yeah so these kids with no like you know parental no need to hide anything because it's all on a phone and they can access more of it than ever right super fast and basically constantly stimulate themselves with this content that they you know in previous eras didn't have access to yeah and especially at that age and the brain still forming like what kind of long-lasting effects does that have and then when

you yeah and it's going to impact how they view intimacy later on in life how they view relationships how they view women and there's a flip side to that too you know with how all these all this type of technology affects women and girls um so again you know i think a lot of people uh well here let me circle this back to stuff we were talking about earlier Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google, is subpoenaed as part of a major sex trafficking investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and JPMorgan Chase. No one's talked about that. Google controls YouTube, controls search, controls the Android operating system on smartphones. um okay that's nuts why is there no coverage of that but there is coverage of uh you know

noam chomsky um and uh some of these other names that have come out that are newer and i'm not sure if you caught this story a few years ago but going back to like android google android team there was like the higher ups at the android team were running like a sex slave operation that became public wow no i didn't know that but i can't really say i'm surprised and then at the same time google is pushing for a lot of this transhumanist stuff too you have people like ray kurzweil who in the metaverse wants to be a promiscuous woman named like rosie or something by the way um it's real yeah go look it up it's real um yeah you know are the people sort of that have planned a lot of google's future trajectory and then you have regina dugan who

used to be in charge of google's advanced projects team and also the top the the equivalent of that at facebook and has now been tapped by the welcome trust sort of the british equivalent of the bill and melinda gates foundation to basically create transhumanist toddlers and no one cares at welcome leap she's a former director of darpa by the way it's a very small circle very small circle it's creepy well again darpa and uh the military have been a long-standing driver of intelligent artificial intelligence research going back to its inception you know in the 50s and 60s and stuff and what do they want it for oh and then again another one of these guys that's been subpoenaed along with sergey brin that's not

getting any coverage is this guy named mike orvitz who's a former president of the walt disney company right and when he was president of walt disney um the guy in charge of the imagineering department was this guy named brand farron and at the same time he was in that role at disney brand farron was also advising military and intelligence in the United States. He was like on the Army Science Board, involved with a lot of really weird stuff. And he brought to the Imagineering Department, Danny Hillis and Marvin Minsky, who before that had run this supercomputer firm, super closely tied to DARPA called Thinking Machines, that wanted to create an artificial general intelligence. And at that point, Minsky and Hillis were very tied up with Epstein.

yeah they have google what are all these guys doing there at disney right and like these are like you mentioned with google particularly youtube android search own that disney obviously the most popular uh media company focused on children's entertainment like what are they seeding through these avenues um and i mean think about the people that run these hollywood studios It was like this morning there was this clip circulating by this child actor, Matthew Lawrence, and he was saying, yeah, so my agency fired me because my agency sent me to the hotel room of a prominent Oscar winning director who asked me to take my clothes off so he could take Polaroids off of me and told me to do X, Y and Z, presumably sexual activities. And if he did so, he'd be the next Marvel superhero. I saw that clip. Extremely.

yeah and he said not to he said he didn't do it and then his agency fired him okay so now i'm really wondering about all these actors that are uh marvel superheroes now well one of them's great like wasn't that ezra klein guy like literally didn't he murder somebody or something like that up in new york oh did he i don't know i don't i've never even seen a single avenger movie so i don't know that's the other thing like for all these uh defectors in hollywood i saw that clip too i wish you would have named the name like why can't they well he might be concerned and i i probably wouldn't blame him um yeah but keep in mind too all those marvel movies have major contracts with the military like iron man i mean this is all uh you know i mean there was yeah

public record propaganda against china and stuff like that or well not just that but like there's there's like contracts signed between the marvel movies and um the military i would argue that's how elon musk got all those cameos in iron man and why they modeled tony stark after him because he was a military contractor at the time and they're like oh this is how we make people think that elon musk is a real life superhero so when he takes over twitter and makes a brain chip people will be like yeehaw he's tony stark i love that guy you think the marvel movies are the form of propaganda the light nudge people to like normalize the way yeah i would suspect so i i'm i haven't really paid attention to their plot lines and stuff but um why would the military

be so interested in having contracts so that they could unduly influence the direction of those films and what's showcased and the plot lines and all of that yeah it's all so creepy again i'm optimistic though i think we're gonna win i think people are getting fed up well i think people are getting fed up and i do i i mean i think i think we are going to win too again and i've said this a few times what concerns me is how much damage do these these guys do in the interim before they're stopped yeah i mean that question is really how much damage do we let them do yeah before we stop them yeah dot bitcoin get this number to go up and you'll be surprised that uh the power you'll be able to wield against this system that's what i yeah but

well so i'll be at the bitcoin conference in a couple weeks you will be there as well and i'm going to be giving a talk and one of my talks is going to be about the wef partnership against cyber crime which includes the fbi and department of justice and bank of america a lot of the big banks and how in their policy papers, by the way, the partnership itself is run by a, a career spy that's in heartening, isn't it? Um, it, their policy papers say that not just as using Bitcoin as currency, a threat and driver of cyber crime, but Bitcoin having value is a driver of cyber crime.

These guys want to drive the value of Bitcoin to zero. Oh yeah. And that's the FBI and DOJ. They certainly do. that's mental yeah i think people should start paying attention to this stuff i do especially you know bitcoiners because it's not just like oh gary gensler and this and that and the regular regulations coming and all that people like you know that are the people backing elizabeth warren and stuff in these efforts want the value of btc to hit zero or near zero no we talked about it

Well, on your podcast with Michael, but the attack, particularly on Silvergate and Signature with their send and signet protocols allowed the Bitcoin exchanges to send money between each other over the weekend, 24-7, 365, was an overt attack on the industry. And I've talked to many people who are very intimately connected with what's going on behind the scenes with the banking situation with Bitcoin companies. and it is an overt attack where they're trying to cut us at the knees via the U.S. dollar on our frames. Yeah, just got to try and outsmart them, I guess. But again, just got to have a realistic view of what they plan to do, right? So you can try and be one step ahead at the end of the day. And I know we've talked about this before,

but it's extremely important to make fun of these people and ridicule them. It's not hard, though. I mean, they're nuts. and like and that's the other thing about like 2023 with the internet and communications a double-edged sword can be extremely addicting can lead you down a wrong path but it all could also be used as a tool to ridicule these despots and me out meme them basically like prove how hypocritical and insane they are yeah yeah but at the same time a lot of the mean lords fall for people like elon musk and stuff you know and that's kind of disheartening uh to me because

you know for people that were like oh free speech twitter uh it's come out now that he is approving more government takedown requests than pre-elon musk twitter so yeah and it's another like did you think the military contractor was going to do anything besides that i didn't it's almost like another limited hangout too or putting like the disclaimer like they fact-checked biden yesterday with like some uh about uh uh yeah in context it's like these little drips of yeah we're free speech and then like you mentioned behind the scenes like well actually we will abide with these these government mandates yeah you know i mean a lot of these guys have like you know a public persona and then privately they do other stuff and i mean most of these guys are

like that yeah i think at least you know like peter thiel right one day he says he's a bitcoin maxine speaks at the bitcoin conference and then he's on stage with you know cia to mike pompeo saying it's a financial weapon from china yeah um it doesn't sound like a bitcoin maximalist to me no no yeah that's a they're very good at creating alternative narratives and confusing people and that's again another thing yeah that we've been beating the drum on for many episodes not only on this show but your show is people have to develop the confidence to believe in themselves and not feel forced to look up to the Peter Teals of the world, the Joe Bidens of the world, the Jenny Owens,

your old pals, Jamie Diamonds, to tell them what to do. Well, people like to look for saviors. You know what I mean? And no one wants to save themselves. Right? So that's going on with this Noam Chomsky stuff. A bunch of people... Noam Chomsky, for certain people on the left,

became like a demigod, right? Like a can-do-no-wrong figure. And he's definitely very different now in his later years than he was in his younger years. I mean, why else would he have been like, send the unvaccinated to camps? Right. I mean, okay, so if you're an anti-imperialist and, you know, anarchist, and you're going to advocate sending one side of a polarized debate, the side you don't agree with, to camps. Okay, you're not an anarchist anymore. um and that doesn't sound like you know the stuff that people think he stand for but i mean that was

fine but you know the epstein meetings the response to that is all a bit weird and again this is not saying like oh chomsky uh is all bad whatever i mean i personally uh dislike him for various reasons including his gatekeeping on the role of the fed and creating financial crises for example um on jfk on 9 11 and also on epstein's ties to intelligence which he said were a conspiracy theory before these recent revelations so uh-oh um that's interesting that these revelations have sort of maybe he had a reason for not wanting to pursue that i don't know so um sorry i sort of lost my train of thought but basically chomsky and oh sorry i was just to say bring back the anti-war free free speech absolutist chomsky like if you just stuck with

that yeah that'd be nice but again we shouldn't be deifying these public figures because when these guys get like really big you know and they're tied up with all these guys and you know they're at this these establishment centers or they're you know military and intelligence contractors like deal and musk you should not be deifying people um in general and i think it's part of this problem that is like very culturally uh entrenched not just in the united states but a lot of other countries where we look for political saviors oh we just need to find the right leader who will lead us out of this mess and this one guy will fix everything that's not that's not a perfect example Totally. But I mean, there's examples all over the place and throughout history and people just desperate for, you know, if only we could get this guy in the White House and stuff, you know, anyone they hear on YouTube or wherever, like say something that's really true.

They'll be like, name of that person 2024, you know, in the comments like this isn't that's not how this should be working. Right. So many people are so desperate to just not have to do any work to get out of this, you know. yeah it's uh i'm gonna give that guy a thumbs up and i'm gonna share his thing and i'm gonna click a couple times and i've done what i needed to do nobody's gonna save you no you can only save yourself exactly and that was the american ethos for like a couple centuries and we got away from that and uh i think we should get back to that yeah we need to get back to the people well i think the work that you're doing is helping us get back to that i think thanks i'm happy i'm gonna see you in person in a couple weeks in miami yeah not so not not i'm from florida i'm not really into florida but i'll go for bitcoin

magazine and to hang out with people like you uh and talk to people about some stuff um that i think is important you know but uh woof i'm not a big fan of miami either i uh love the conference uh i'm not a big fan of the city yeah it's actually kind of in the same boat then it's pretty emblematic of the uh the materialist culture that um we've been opining on this yeah most definitely um hey it's been great uh thank you again for the work you're doing for sticking the needle in the eye of these people yeah that's uh what i like to do or at least feel like i'm doing i make my best attempt at doing that that's actually how i think of it in my head i'm like well if you're going to try and destroy everything around me i might as well

try and stick you yeah you know and i must mention the site the design upgrades have been incredible your site is one of the most aesthetically pleasing uh independent journal sites out there i appreciate that if you need help if your readers are getting uh asked to provide biometric data to their banks to pay you oh we have we have the bitcoin paywall if you want to implement on your site because you use that's true we can get you hooked up with that oh cool you don't have to uh you don't have to give santander your uh your eyeball scan you can uh pay in bitcoin yeah no well i don't paywall stuff but i do have people that donate to the site and so my work is entirely supported by like small donors that donate through the website oh and you have a space server set up

so and i have that so i'd probably just keep that yeah i'm not into paywalling stuff i mean i monetize my podcast a little bit but i always release it yeah i take down the paywall after like three days and that's the only thing i paywall not really into paywalling so uh i'm about to go write a newsletter it's paywalled i'm experimenting with it too no i mean it's fine it just depends on you right i just um you know i want as many people to read my stuff as as possible so that's sort of you know if there's a paywall you're going to get less eyes on it and i care more about that than i care about you know raking it in personally so but that's my model and i write different stuff than you write you know so no i agree

i've been experimenting with like for eight months now and i do think i like that model better um or just like give it out hey everyone has different you know not everyone's like you know projects and in journalism are the same you know so yeah if it works for you it works for you yeah what uh what should we leave the freaks with um man well i wish i had something more coherent and awesome to say but getting woken up in the middle of the night by an earthquake may have broken my brain a little bit today but um you know basically i think the most important thing and we've talked about it many times it's time to get out of the armchair and into the real world and off the screen and start building something um you know i guess i you know people

like you and me marty and other people that talk about the stuff we're sort of like you know to use i guess a biblical example everyone knows right noah's ark right noah tried to tell everyone the flood was coming people were like you were crazy right so even if you're like listening to noah right and the people that are telling you the flood is coming you got to do something about it Right. And I'm not saying get on my arc. Right. I'm saying build your own arc. I like that. And have your community build an arc and get on it. Yeah. Like I said, only you can save yourself.

Shit's going to get real. Yeah. But it doesn't have to be just you, right? Team up with your best friend, team up with a group of families that you know and trust and build something. Yeah. Exit and build. Now is the time. now is the time and it's never been easier to do it with the technology we have with the information we can share it's uh now is really the time to do it before they pull the plug on the internet and demand a digital id to get on it and it's super censored i mean the internet once they pull the plug on the internet like that it's not going to be the same the internet is now

just letting people know like don't give up your freedom to access that thing because it's going to be the most sanitized internet around because there's no anonymity anymore so you can't shit post you can't like meme you can't talk shit so all that stuff will be gone right and it'll basically just be all chat gpt generated websites anyway so what's the point that sounds terrible i don't want to participate in that internet no i don't either so it's time to build something new and that doesn't mean you have to like build something new the luddite way right it's different for everyone yeah we've got a um chat offline about noster i'm not sure if that's been on your radar but that's a problem it has but yeah i i have not had enough time to really check it out

but it is definitely something i would i would like to get into because as far as you know i'd really i can't wait until i've been waiting until twitter censors me and i'm just like why has it not happened yet you know because i'm i i like rarely use it anymore i hate social media i can't stand it so um and honestly i think so much of it's fake i mean if you consider all this chat gpt stuff and the same parent company you know elon musk and elon musk owns twitter like how many bots are on there now dude i mean we don't know there was never any visibility into that but we know twitter even before musk bought it had a major bot problem and the military has poured millions of dollars and per the air force trying to use social media to control people like drones

yeah so i mean it's a total psyop playland for these guys and that's why i think using other platforms it is important and you know nostre seems really promising because it's not like some of these other platforms that try and be just like twitter but not twitter well the beauty of it is it's not a platform at all it's a protocol yeah it's a protocol right so um right so i think that's definitely more promising and i'd like to get into it but again i uh i'm really short on time because i'm trying to like you know make content for why i'm in miami and stuff and you know i'm sort of doubling my workload and i have tiny people who take up a lot of time as tiny people tend to do take up a lot of time yeah they do hey but they're fun it's good time it's good

time i'm happy they take it yeah yeah and nostrils nostrils a little clunky right now too so it's probably not the best time to uh but i'm sure you know that kind of stuff you know it came out not that long ago right so you know a lot of this stuff takes time to you know fix itself even itself out it's happening though um all right i can't wait to see you miami yeah super see you soon marty all right that's all we got today freaks peace and love Thank you.