TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #455: AI-Powered Tyranny with Whitney Webb

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Marty sits down once again with Whitney Webb to discuss the conflict in the Levant and how the bankers intend to use AI to control your life. Whitney's links: https://linktr.ee/whitneywebb Articles: https://www.mintpressnews.com/untold-story-christian-zionists-power-united-states-israel/260532/ https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/whitney-webb-bitcoin-and-the-plot-to-destroy-financial-privacy Shoutout to our sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠River⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Talent Co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TFTC Merch is Available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shop Now⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the TFTC Movement: Main ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Clips ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Marty Bent: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠

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I don't know how to do that. We're getting off the rails here for this intro. Logan. Put my mic away. we sat back down with Whitney Webb. And there I go. It's been a while. It's been, I think we last had Whitney on in June, May maybe.

She had some stuff that she was taking care of. It's her first interview in quite some months. And the timing couldn't be more chaotic to get Whitney Webb back on the beat because World War III is breaking out. AAI overlords are trying to take us over. The CBDC. Did you see that?

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if you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Whitney, it's great to have you back. It's been a long summer for you. Yeah, it's great to be here. Sorry.

Well, it was winter for me because I live in Chile, right? So I guess, you know, I didn't have to worry about making a wood fire every day. I guess that was probably like the only benefit of not being in my house for three months. But, yeah, great to be back. It feels nice to be doing an interview again after a long, not really necessarily sought-out hiatus. Yeah, and you're ending that hiatus with World War III fuckery starting. It's pretty insane out there. Yeah, I mean, so much stuff has happened over the past three months.

It's, like, been pretty mind-boggling to watch and also kind of desensitizing because, I mean, you know. i mean as we've talked about before clown world has not uh gone away and has only gotten like more clownish and there's no exit ramps and it's just like instead you we're all descending deeper into the madness i don't know headlines are always crazy and uh it's obviously not getting any crazy uh any less crazy it's just getting crazier so um i have a feeling that trend will continue uh a lot actually i think next year is going to be fucking wild 2024 also an election year and uh you know uh a lot of weird stuff has been predicted for next year like um economic calamity uh the cyber 9-11 stuff like that so we'll see what happens but uh i definitely think

next year is going to be really spicy yeah i mean the stage is certainly being set we have shit popping off in israel and palestine i've intentionally tried to stay away from it because the fog of war is never a good time like as it's going on to to be making rash takes hot takes and it's just been insane to see vitriol i mean if you're looking for something to divide people something popping off between israel and palestine is definitely that yeah most definitely well so if you so i've been reporting on israel and palestine like for a really long time a lot of my early journalistic career was pretty much like in that space almost not exclusively but predominantly um the u.s population in particular is like primed to

have that be probably one of the most polarizing issues, period, you know, and it's very much along the existing, like, left-right divide, but not necessarily, you know, but it's, it's, a lot of it is also, like, baked into the religious landscape of the United States, you know, through Christian Zionism and a lot of other stuff, and I don't know, I've done a lot on the history of Zionism and a lot about some of the messianic movements, both like in Israel and in the US that see a lot of what's happening now, oddly enough, as necessary for the fulfillment of end times prophecy. And some of those groups have like a very direct and openly stated posture that they should do absolutely everything that they possibly can to hasten the coming of the

end times. So that's definitely, you know, I guess maybe some people view that as conspiratorial thinking and looking at this current conflict. But I mean, if you think about it and you have these like world leaders, both in Israel and the U.S. and elsewhere, thinking that certain things need to happen for religious motivations that they care deeply about, those are probably going to shape a lot of geopolitical events, specifically in this area to a very significant degree. and it's been going on for many years if not really centuries and um i don't know i mean i can get more in the weeds um about that if you want because i think honestly one of the big issues as it comes to people understanding this particular conflict is that um not a lot of people

have really dug that deeply into the history of zionism at all and like a lot of people i talked to in the States, like when I lived there, didn't even realize that Israel's creation as a state happened as recently as 1948. Like there's people that think it's always been there and don't really get the conflict at all, you know? So I think, you know, that really makes it easy to, you know, for certain quote unquote influencers in different spaces to shape narratives that aren't necessarily accurate. But, you know, if you dig deeper into the history of Zionism and also into some of these more like messianic focused movements that are very intertwined with the political landscape of both the U.S. and Israel, that's probably like the best way to predict how this

is going to play out over the next couple of months and years. Yeah. Yeah. With the biblical tilt you have the christians like mike pence here in the u.s who want that temple to be brought down and then rebuilt which will oh it's not just pence though it's uh uh it's the yeah it's the christian zionists are very big on the destruction of the dome of the rock or the Al-Aqsa Mosque for the purpose of the rebuilding of the third temple, which is also huge with a lot of, I guess, segments of Israeli society that are in power right now with the current Netanyahu-led coalition. Some of these more like extremist settler groups vary into the destruction of that existing structure. And this is all about like end time stuff, but it's also not just them.

Like if you're a subscriber to the influence of secret societies, for example, you know, Freemasons, totally obsessed with the Third Temple also. So there's like all these different groups of varying influence that are very interested in seeing something happen there and see it as a prerequisite to their differing, you know, but overlapping, you know, in time theories coming to fruition. so um for people that don't know al-aqsa mosque is i believe one i think it's the third holiest site in islam so if anything happens to that building you're going to have the entire muslim world uh coming after the people who were responsible and uh some of the current people in israel's government um or factions that are now quite heavily represented in their legislature and in the current administration were people that like back in the 1980s were trying to tunnel under the Dome of the Rock to blow it up. And were considered, you know, very fringe extremists at

that time, but now they're not. Like now they're in power. And there's a very, you know, it's, there's a lot of risk there for sure of having something happen to that building. And it'll probably be you know i i don't really look forward to that happening but it seems almost inevitable just because so many people think it has to happen for their different you know eschatological you know beliefs to to come out and i don't know i mean it's just so crazy to talk about because this is like such a level of um i guess uh reality that a lot of people don't think about that like you know people think oh this is confirmation of uh you know what i was taught as a kid in church or whatever like i think that's how they want people to feel uh because

these people have also very openly stated they're intentionally doing it because they don't want to wait for god to do it they have to do it like that's the theological justification both on the christian and jewish side to make this happen i mean all very very nuts so it's basically like a self-fulfilling prophecy in a sense but it's going to lead to a lot of uh death and destruction and complete madness and um you know i mean the deeper you go into like this whole like messianic stuff like the the jewish messiah and the moshiach and all that stuff um and what that's supposed to mean in both the Christian and Jewish sense and this idea of like, you know, new world order sort of springing from that. Yeah, I mean, it gets pretty nuts when you consider the possibilities

of where this could go if these people in the driver's seat trying to, you know, have a particular vision they're trying to fulfill. How successful will they be in fulfilling that vision? I don't know. It's worth doing some research into what they believe and what they think needs to happen. So one of the things they think needs to happen is the complete expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories in Gaza, and also Israel itself, where there's Palestinian citizens that are Israeli citizens, but they're Palestinian. So basically the idea that they all need to be ethnically cleansed, essentially, from the area. And this is like really prominent in Christian Zionism. And, you know, like you mentioned, Mike Pence, there's a lot of other really powerful people that subscribe to that. And it's very prominent, particularly in the Republican Party. But, I mean, one of the main organizations directing a lot of this within the United States is called CUFI, Christians United for Israel, and Netanyahu has described CUFI as essential to Israel's national security, and there's a lot of overlap between the two. So definitely worth exploring that stuff. And I actually did a really in-depth piece about all of this stuff that's well-sourced

and probably one of the best articles I've written on the subject called The Untold History of Christian Zionism. You can find it on Mint Press News, where I used to write. It was part of a longer series, but I stopped because the Epstein thing happened and my whole career kind of changed after that, but managed to get this out before all that happened. definitely worth taking the time to look at it in my opinion because this is going to be a really crazy uh series of events at least for sure it's very scary the vitriol is at an all-time high you have both sides calling for genocide uh in in that part of the world and it's baffling i've

seen you've been tweeting about and i've just been observing again i've been trying to be very intentional not have any hot takes on the subject because if I'm being completely honest I'd again fog of war things are going on in real time and I honestly don't know what's happening what intentions are or what any ulterior motives may be but the one observation I have made is that it's just stunning that everybody's been riled up so successfully and this is coming off the heels of the covid lockdowns the vaccine mandates the war in ukraine and it's like if you're a puppet master if you were to envision a puppet master it's like you get uh the covid lockdowns get everybody scared you get the war in ukraine you get everybody on the left supporting that and

then you get this war where you get the neocons supporting what's going on in israel and palestine right now of course and everybody gets what they want well the whole thing about So neoconservatives, like from their origins, from a political standpoint, have consistently been about basically unifying American foreign policy and Israeli foreign policy, like tooling U.S. foreign policy to benefit Israeli foreign policy. so hence the war in Iraq and a lot of other stuff and this goes back to like policy documents written by uh very important figures in that movement like Richard Pearl his um a clean break in the late 90s calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein and um I mean even people like Hillary Clinton who people don't think of as necessarily a neoconservative but sort of very much fulfilling of that pro-war uh line also in you know leaked emails talked about uh starting uh fomenting the

quote-unquote syrian revolution and all of the you know the proxy war stuff that happened there as a way to benefit israel explicitly and stuff like that and it's you know there's differing opinions of course as to why that is of whether it's over due to undue influence of israel over the united states or the u.s seeing israel as a useful tool to keep the middle east perpetually unstable. And of course, Britain also being in that mix, seeing that as favorable as well. But again, you know, this is all really complicated stuff. And I think what you mentioned earlier about this coming on the heels of COVID and people being really riled up. So every time people get really riled up over something, the people that are trying to hurt

us into insane digital enslavement land, use that to their benefit, right? And it essentially becomes another, you know, opportunity to deploy divide and conquer tactics, of course, for their benefit and not for ours. So there was a take that I thought was kind of interesting, and obviously I'm going to paraphrase here, and I think it was Gareth Icke that said it, but something like, you know, in any situation, well, not necessarily any situation, but I guess this situation, you know people are really being pushed uh to pick a side you know are you with hamas or are you with the idf but what we should really do is pick the side of all the you know the innocent civilians who aren't part of these freaking banker wars and we should just step off the chessboard and stop

playing their game and i think that's um you know a pretty good take honestly um because you know obviously, I mean, I haven't been following what's happened here super closely, but as far as I understand it, you know, the first bloodshed was this rave in southern Israel. And apparently that was for the purpose of, you know, promoting like peace with the Palestinians. So like a lot of the people that were killed there were Israelis that, for example, had chosen not to serve in the IDF and things like that, you know, people that Palestinians, I think, would normally see as allies within Israel. But then you have people, you know, sort of glorifying that on one side. And then, of course, on the other side, Gaza, half of the population of Gaza are children,

you know, under the age of 18. And so promoting the carpet bombing of that, the refusal to let humanitarian aid in, bombing people who are evacuating per IDF instructions and all of this stuff. I mean, there's no celebrating that. And there's this whole return of this mentality of you're either with us or you're with the terrorist stuff. You know, just like, you know, the post 9-11 mentality, which is the same mentality a lot of these same people were criticizing from the left during the COVID era. You know, it's come back and I think unfortunately shows that a lot of people are still very much caught in that that trap and pretty easily manipulated, you know, by the by the powers that be. And it's not, again, you know, benefiting

any of the regular people here, whether it's in Israel, Palestine or somewhere else. You know, there's just a lot of, you know, innocent people that don't want any of this. And I would also encourage people to keep in mind that Israel and also, you know, Hamas and the Gaza Strip, like force the COVID vaccine on the populations that they rule over. So, you know, that's also something to keep in mind. And there's a lot of documentation that's come out, you know, over the years preceding this current conflict of how Israel wanted Hamas to be in control of the Gaza Strip because they could treat it as a hostile entity and not have to, you know, deal with the peace process, which, you know, if you're familiar with a lot of, you know, at least the national

level is really, you know, how politics works there. There's been a consistent effort to sabotage any sort of two-state solution for a really long time. And of course, you know, the fact that those forces in Israel would want Hamas to be in power in the Gaza Strip suggests that Hamas is not the group that is going to act in the best interests of Palestinians or Palestinian sovereignty, right? So, I don't know. Those are just some things I'd like to say, I guess, about the conflict. But again, you know, the loss of human life is always going to be lamentable there. But I have a feeling that the pot is only going to continually be stirred because, you know, a lot of these same groups that, you know, I brought up earlier that have this whole

messianic flavor to everything they do think that we you know there needs to be a big war between israel and iran uh for the end times and that the dome of the rocks got to get blown up and all the palestinians have to be removed from israel and all these different things have to happen and uh you have people with major influence over major governments in this whole conflict whether directly involved right now or in the periphery or soon to be involved you know who feel that way crazy yeah no it's completely insane it's extremely disheartening again to see the vitriol and just the animalistic reaction to this where it's like us versus them and like you mentioned half the population of gaza 1.1 million of the 2.2 are under the age of 18

and a lot of people have been like oh they're they're all pro hamas they voted them in but it's like half the population is not a voting age so that doesn't really make sense then you have the whole attack on this rave and then getting through the borders, which was really perplexing considering how tightly secured those borders

have been historically. Most definitely. Yeah. And the comparisons from Israel's government saying that this was Israel's 9-11. Very odd when you are aware of the extensiveness

of Israel's, you know, surveillance capabilities domestically, as well as internationally. I mean, it's just absurd that they wouldn't have been able to know that was going to happen in advance. And there's people that are like, you know, IDF veterans and Israelis that definitely are no friends of, you know, Palestine or Hamas that are saying that's the case. And, you know, if you're familiar with the realities of 9-11, there's only really a few possibilities there. Either it was intentionally done by, you know, intelligence agencies, or it was allowed to happen by intelligence agencies. So I think we can assume that, you know, similar possibilities may have happened here with Israel, because, you know, before all of this happened, Netanyahu was facing like major issues domestically, a huge amount of protests against him, major efforts to remove him from power. um he um he's been trying to stay in power because the justice system this particular attorney has been going after him for corruption for some time and so he teamed up with sort of

these far uh sort of like extremist groups i guess that that we touched on earlier as sort of a way like i'll help you guys get into power if you help me pass this judicial reform legislation that will, if it does pass, essentially allow Netanyahu to get off the hook, uh, for the charges he's facing. And, um, yeah, so that conveniently all goes away and now there's a new unity government, uh, that's justified by the war. And, uh, oddly, um, well, not oddly, but tellingly, um, the, you know, polls from within Israel, most Israelis for everything going on right now, blame netanyahu and want him to resign yeah it's very convenient and again it's the hearkening to 9-11 is mind-blowing like on just pattern recognition i was 10 11 when 9-11 happened and

witnessed everything that happened got as a fourth grader got pulled into the the war drum beating like they riled us up at our elementary school like we got to go to war we got to go to war and i just it was on my computer because i wanted to pull up this tweet uh here's the original tweet nobody said on 9-11 america must retaliate proportionally uh both sides need to show restraint where's the proof of all the dead bodies you were oversimplifying there's context about the conflict you're ignoring let's try to de-escalate the situation and so this is somebody from the israel side saying like no like we we didn't question this door in 9-11 like we shouldn't have to question it now then thomas woods tom woods uh quote tweet that said if only we had

spoken and thought like this instead of pointlessly pulling trillions of dollars and killing at least 4.5 million people according to the washington post what we laughingly call the conservative movement is a disgrace so it's just like it feels like what happened after 9-11 is happening again and knowing the aftermath of 9-11 and how fucked up it was we lied to get into the wars weapons of mass destruction didn't exist like nobody ever questions the saudi involvement like who was actually driving the planes flying the planes and the patriot act that came after it and led to the dystopian hellscape that we're currently living in and it's just mind-boggling that people can't see the the pattern recognition like it's the same playbook over again in my mind

obviously fog of war things are happening people are dying by the hundreds day in and day out and people are really riled up and unable to see clearly what's going on but sitting at my desk here in Austin Texas and observing this from afar it seems pretty obvious that the playbook is being run back. Yeah. And you know, it's actually pretty disturbing to me. I've talked about this with a couple of people that I've worked with in the past, like Robbie Martin and Jeremy Lafredo. I've had some concerns for a while that some of the people that became prominent as sort of dissidents in the COVID-19 era became very cozy or were directly tied to the neoconservatives who came to prominence during the bush era um and were sort of in my opinion

trying to bring a lot of you know so think about the maga base right and how sort of trump became popular well trump when he was campaigning in 2015 was very much like took an anti-neocon posture right and not necessarily anti-war but definitely you know less iraq was a mistake for example, in saying things of that nature. And that was very popular. And really among, you know, the Republican voting base, there was a mass rejection of neocon foreign policy. And that seems to have changed, isn't it? And it seems like there's been a lot of figures that have sort of regained the trust of that particular base during the COVID era and are now currently saying we need to go uh to war and bomb the crap out of uh gaza and maybe iran and maybe lebanon the whole iran

so something to think about like the lindsey grahams of the world and nikki haley's coming out i mean like we need to go attack iran it's like whoa like they're i don't know how people still vote for lindsey graham that guy is insane he goes on tv and says the most like insane like war pro i just i don't know i don't know how people believe that and like look at that guy and are like that's who i want to vote for unless they're like you know they work for defense contractors or they just have like mush brain you know i just don't get it no yeah 70 year 70 years old no children just wants to bomb the crap of the world then die and just leave us with Yeah, man. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. But anyway, there's some websites. So some of these neocon guys like Frank Gaffney, people that were tied up with PNAC, if you're familiar, Project for a New American Century, and it's, I guess, follow up organization, the Foreign Policy Initiative.

A lot of those people got involved with the stop vaccine passport stuff and even made a website. I think it was called like stop vaccine passports dot com or something and got very like involved with those efforts with COVID. And there's, you know, a lot of, you know, like a lot of them ended up popping up like Frank Gaffney in particular on Steve Bannon's war room, pandemic war room stuff. Right. And sort of rehabilitating some neocon foreign policy, but being like, oh, we're against globalism and digital IDs and the vaccine passport, you know, saying all this stuff that sort of brings that base back. And then when the time is right and the trust is there, they're like, and war with Iran, which is exactly where the Bush era neocons were going, like after Iraq anyway. Yeah. I mean, before he died. This seems overly convenient to me. So again, this is why I like to tell people don't have political saviors. and please think for yourself because if you just you know outsource your brain okay you're not outsourcing your brain to msm anymore but you're outsourcing your brain to ben shapiro and jordan

peterson and um you know steve bannon and people like that you're not necessarily going to get led in a better direction than msm would eventually lead you yeah you got to think for yourself at this point and you have to slay your heroes if they start leading you astray and it's very obvious that it's happening right now and again going back to the convenience of the timing of it all whether it's the sort of political morass that netanyahu felt found himself in a few months ago or here in the u.s we have a financial crisis that's on the verge of of popping off i'm not sure if you've been paying attention to what's going on there but it's pretty obvious yeah It's something that's structurally broken.

But war helps, right? Yes, exactly. So it's all very convenient. Just similar to COVID, in 2019, the fall of 2019, it was becoming glaringly obvious that the financial system was systemically fragile. And it's becoming glaringly obvious that we're back at that point again in the fall of 2023. And like you said, war helps. Well, war traditionally lets the Fed print lots and lots of money because it's war. we gotta do it we gotta win the war right so um i think we we can guess um what'll happen there

unfortunately it's not gonna get much better but i i do want to sort of uh circle back for well bring up i guess some some research i've done uh in the past and was sort of the subject of uh what i talked about at the bitcoin conference um in may so there's like this particular group It's a public-private partnership. It's housed within the World Economic Forum, the WEF. But the main, I guess, groups that compose this partnership are the FBI and the DOJ and the Secret Service, Israel's one of their security agencies and the UK National Crime Agency, and then a bunch of banks, right? And then a few tech companies here and there. I think Palantir, maybe it's PayPal, Microsoft. I mean, some of these big guys are there. And basically, they're led by a former Israeli spy named Tal Goldstein that used to develop a lot of really crazy policies for Netanyahu. and uh jeremy jurgens who i guess is number two at the wef after klaus schwab at the big wef meeting earlier this year was like yep big giant cyber attack before 2025 and you know the part of the

wef wef pack the partnership against cyber crime that's the doj and and all of these guys uh say that it's going to be a cyber attack on the banks hmm isn't that convenient that like the banks can just be like, oh, well, we've collapsed, but it wasn't our fault. It was the fault of these nasty hackers. And I'm sure the hackers will be Hamas and Iran. You know, they can blame anyone because as we know from Vault 7 and WikiLeaks, right, the CIA has the ability to frame literally any government it wants or any group it wants for a cyber attack. And the CIA lost control of those tools, hence WikiLeaks obtaining them and publishing them. And, you know, anyone can do it. Anyone can blame anyone. So it's very difficult to attribute. And even if you look at headlines

about cyber attacks that have happened over the past several years, it's usually a cybersecurity company that if you look on its website was created by In-Q-Tel, the CIA, or it was created by israel's unit 8200 which is israel's like nsa equivalent and they're saying stuff like high probability that it might have been these guys and uh our proof is that we don't have any proof but it looks like something they might have done before we think they did before i mean it's just like there's no evidence for anything but out of you know that googly guck you get a headline that says chinese hackers responsible you know or you know iranian hackers responsible and that's all people see and read right yeah and it's i mean it's very easy to see that we could be in

chapter one of the systemic bank failure where it starts with this conflict in the middle east it keeps rising and then there's an excuse to begin cyber attacking perceived enemies and that's how the banks get attacked so there's this whole there's this whole group of the big banks that's very secretive and it's affiliated with wefpac and they have been gaming this out since like 2021 or so it's a fs isac the financial services information sharing and analysis center and they collaborated with the european central bank the fed the carnegie endowment that at the time was run by the current CIA director, William Burns, talking about exactly how this was going to play out, the cyber attack on the banks. Yeah. And I know I sent you this information

probably a couple of months at this point, but in parallel to all this going on, the Bank of International Settlements has been running CBDC trials with partner central banks around the world. So maybe they're doing that in parallel. The cyber attacks happened and it's like, oh, thank god we've been running this but but i think they're going to do it a couple different ways to try and uh keep populations uh from rebelling against it in certain countries where there's a growing awareness about cbdc's so i think it's pretty clear that direct issue cbdc's like as the the bis has laid out are going to or have already happened in basically bricks countries So Brazil, Russia, China, it's all pretty much set up to play out that way, just as the BIS has foretold.

But I think in some of these countries where the population is more wary of CBDCs or obvious centralized control of CBDCs, they're going to try and keep the two-tier system, you know, as it exists like right now in the U.S. and basically have the CBDC exist, but the public doesn't necessarily interact with it, which is, you know, essentially what FedNow is going to be, right? It's about settlements like between banks and they'll use the CBDC and then the public will interact instead with deposit tokens. And that'll be issued by the commercial banks and that's what the public will interact with. And they're not called CBDCs, but they're programmable money and they're going to run on the rails of FedNow. And it's really not that different of a system, but they can, you know, oh, I have my JP Morgan deposit tokens and I have my Citibank deposit tokens and I have my

Wells Fargo deposit tokens and it's not a CBDC, right? It's an abstracted white label, CBDC, if you will. Yeah. Well, if you look at the big banks in the U.S., they're all in on deposit tokens and tokenized assets jp morgan all in and they're you know the banks who are the banks that run the fed right so i mean the most powerful fed bank is the the one in new york right and the main you know shareholders of that bank it's city and jp morgan and the head of jp morgan of course is Jamie Dimon and the person who essentially created Citibank, Jamie Dimon. So it's basically the same crowd that decides what goes on there. And I mean, if you've been looking at what Jamie Dimon has been saying recently, you know, about stuff like we should seize private property for

the purpose of combating climate change, you want these banks to be able to issue programmable money like it doesn't have to be a cbdc issued by the fed to like have the same consequences you know what i mean no i mean you could argue the way the financial system set up now like it practically already exists like being just unpersoned anybody yeah and totally they have yeah it happened to what mercola and uh in his banks they got deplatformed from chase without any warning yeah i mean obviously we had russell brand didn't get debanked but got kicked off of youtube we had nigel farage in the uk had his bank accounts ripped out from under him it's totally possible right now it's just um not as popular i guess a cbdc like um system would make

it easier but i think it's totally possible today it's just not politically palatable for most people right well i mean i think in the u.s again it's they're going to try and set it up a different way than they're they're like running it in china and russia and some of these bricks countries which are much more you know the multipolar world order you know that crowd or whatever are a lot of them seem to be favoring the direct issue cbdc but you know you've already had like you know some statements from the fed about like a wariness toward a cbdc that some people have sort of taken as proof as proof for some mystical like trust the fed q q anon equivalent thing that jerome powell and jamie diamond are like actually our friends um and like no i think

that just means that they know that a lot of people in the u.s would resist a cbdc direct issued uh you know a push for that system and so they're gonna create essentially the same system in a way that seems a little more palatable or at least not as obvious or at least more analogous to the current system, right? Yeah, there's a theory out there. It's being popularized by Tom Luongo, who I have had on this show, but he's convinced that the Fed, via their interest rate policy and being directed by the big banks here in the U.S.,

is essentially attacking the Davos class by trying to collapse the European banking system by draining the euro-dollar system with this high interest rate regime yeah i'm familiar and he apparently doesn't like what i have to say about this i've been told but um rule number one for me is never trust the bankers and never trust the fed and i'm gonna stick by that that's a good rule uh because it's worked really well for me so far so um you know i don't think jamie diamond and the and jerome powell play 3d and 5D chess. I don't. Um, I think, you know, essentially the world as it is now, I think it's a lot more run by transnational capital than a lot of people would like to think, you know?

And I think that's why you end up seeing commonalities, for example, with COVID, you know, why is, uh, why did the U S go all in for a lot of the same COVID policies and draconian, uh, you know, lockdowns and restrictions of civil liberties that happened and Russia and China and the entire world. Obviously, there's a lot more that the elite agree on than they disagree on when it comes to, you know, keeping their respective populations under the boot, right? Yeah.

And why do they all seem to get together at these globalist groups like Davos and what have you, you know? Jackson Hole, Bilderberg. But yeah, no, it seems like if the end goal is to confuse and instill fear in the global population to cattle herd them into this system. Like it's happening in real time. So you can believe that the Fed

and the commercial banks here in the U.S. are attacking Europe and use that as like a diversion tactic to be like, no, they're on our side and just everybody placated and sort of believing that that's the truth. And then at the end of the day, they are all just like, ha ha, we played you.

Trust the plan is now trust the Fed. I'm not a believer, sorry. Yeah, but I do wanna point out that we are really in unprecedented times and there's obviously gonna be a lot of big shifts and they're probably gonna happen in the next one to two years. So that cyber attack we were talking about earlier,

once that happens, they're going to push for, and they've already mapped it out, the end of both online and financial anonymity. So if you're talking about CBDCs or any sort of CBDC equivalent system, you know, essentially, you know, KYC, right? That's all going to be forced on everybody for everything. And anything that doesn't have that or affords any sort of financial privacy or anonymity will be made illegal under national security justifications.

So we can expect a Cyber Patriot Act to come after this event. Yeah, that's going to have that stuff in it because they've already mapped out the policy. And then, of course, the end of online anonymity means tying a government issued ID to your Internet access and having Internet access, you know, require that at the ISP level. And that's what they've mapped out to do. It's extremely terrifying. The Internet, as you know it now, will not exist after this happens. Right. and you'll you know what they'll say is oh you want to be allowed to be back online you know

you have to get this id which of course is going to be some sort of digital id equivalent you know since they're pushing for all of this with the cbdc's at the same time right but the goal is no anonymity period and to have everything you do surveilled and compiled and uh you know have AI oversee it all and do all this predictive policing, pre-crime stuff based on what you've already done and what you will do. So essentially the most important thing to do is not to participate in the system after that event. Just don't do it. So I would say if you want some of the stuff that's like on the internet now in terms of like knowledge, back that up offline, download it, put it on hard drives faraday bag it keep it you know safe because if you might want that stuff

after all this happens and you don't want to have to you know get the cattle tag to be able to be online you know you definitely think ahead because if you want to believe what the wef says about this timeline on this stuff which is i would take them seriously um you know you've got like a year give or take a few months before the internet gets uh you know nuked basically cucked now that you mentioned that like the timeline of everything like going all the way back to covid ukraine russia and then this time last year you had the emergence of what many people would describe as the first consumer-ready ai applications then you have this pop-off in the middle east the banking crisis happening in parallel like everything is just lining up almost

too perfectly yeah there's there's a lot lining up and it's it's it's not good but the good thing is that you know the more you look at the stuff the more you can think about solutions right so i definitely want to talk about that in a second i'm going to drink some water really quick so so I don't cough everywhere. Sorry. I've been kind of sick for a week or two. Yeah. So a lot of crazy stuff going on right now is happening thanks to, or at least it's being enabled by in a huge way by big tech. So I'll give some examples before we talk about like AI in general, because I'm writing a piece on that that I think is pretty important. But Microsoft, you know, over the last three months, I forget exactly when, cause I've sort of, uh, been in an offline bubble a lot of

the time with my, with my son, but, um, they essentially came out and said like, all right, you use a Microsoft, you know, windows machine. Um, your data is not your data anymore. And we can, we're going to take your data whenever we want off the machine and train our AI on it. and you can't opt out and if we decide to we can just delete your data or block you from accessing your device by blocking your microsoft id or whatever so if you're using a windows machine your data is not your data and if you're serious about fighting this stuff you have no excuse to not invest in some sort of freedom tech stuff so i definitely think people particularly like in the Bitcoin space need to put a lot more attention

considering what we're facing on freedom tech and supporting developers that are developing that tech. Yeah, I'm not sure if you're aware of the project, but StartOS is basically a Linux-based system that's trying to create a new operating system external to Microsoft and Apple people can can use and use open source software products to to run their their lives to use something like next cloud instead of dropbox and um have jitsi instead of zoom right

yeah well i think you know i think even jitsi like got rid of their anonymity function recently too like a lot of these are under yeah um so i think you know there's a huge need for to divest from big tech as much as possible and it needs to happen quickly because unless you you know the choice is either participate in the system being designed for you by the crazy people and become a slave or don't become a slave right so if you don't want to be a slave you have to invest now and making in in big tech alternatives unless you want to live a completely analog life right yeah and so if you don't think it's practical for you to live an analog life you got to find something that works that isn't these guys yeah and it's it's not easy it's hard

like running start os getting a private public key pair set up on noster and interacting with those different clients is definitely harder it's more rough around the edges but it's getting better and if you shift the development talent particularly to focus on these areas i think you can reach parity with big tech in terms of being able to do on your computer and interact on social networks like you do in the incumbent system well here's the thing people people are lazy and like don't want to have to learn how to do something new or something that like maybe has two steps more than what they used before i mean people have to get over that you know it's not going to be the easiest route is to go the slavery route and that's how they've designed it on purpose

the whole selling point of that system is that it's convenient and easy so obviously it's going to take some work uh to go the other route but uh yeah i mean the future of human freedom depends on it so i think it's a pretty easy choice and if you have to do some you know tutorials or whatever why the internet is still like sort of functioning the way it it should function to an extent in terms of like democratizing access to information like let's please do that And not be like, oh, man, I wish I did that now that they've, you know, screwed the whole Internet over and I have to get a digital ID if I want to be online anymore. You know, like now is the time. Now is the time.

And not enough people are talking about it or are focused on solutions. And I think, you know, that's one of the major problems in independent media right now, just in general, is that it's all about clicks and who's going to watch my stuff. and talking about stuff that's going to keep my audience like sucked in, I guess, and not necessarily so much about like, how do we get out of this? And if you want to think that this timeline or, you know, if it seems to you like it does to me that the timeline for action is getting increasingly small, we got to start doing stuff and we got to start talking about how to do that stuff. And if you don't have like the developing, you know, the programming know-how or whatever there are people that do right and you can support them or you can learn yeah and

divest somehow i mean for people that don't want to do that too you know there's um there's options like uh ramiro romani runs a above phone and they make de-googled smartphones ready to go super easy you can buy it from his website they're making laptops now for people that don't want to to invest the time and like putting graphene os on a phone themselves or you know learning you know all this you know learning a linux necessarily like they make it really easy and and there's you know there's never been a better time to do that than now because you know if you see where microsoft's going you're not going to be able to keep access to your own data unless you know you avoid committing thought crime for microsoft i mean that's just nuts no no continue mapping this

out for people like going back to start os it's created by a company called start nine labs and they're essentially creating an operating system that'll allow you to self-host all of your stuff so you'll have a server at your house they partner with purism to get their operating system out of the box you can buy one of the purism laptops if you want to you can buy a purism server plug it in and then it's plug and play you get the d google d apple d microsoft software suite and then you can host all of your data on your own machine your pictures your files you don't have to set it to the cloud and feed the ai superstructure that's trying to take your life over man and the ai stuff is legit insane so um Catherine Austin Fitz who runs the Solari report um and is awesome in general

and has done a lot of great interviews about CBDCs and the BIS and all of that um asked me to write a piece for uh their new issue on artificial intelligence and so I decided to write about something I've wanted to do for a while though it's kind of torturous which is uh to read uh the book on AI written by Henry Kissinger and former Google CEO, Eric Schmidt. And, you know, I wasn't really surprised for what I found. It's fucking nuts. Um, and so my piece for them is titled the final coup, uh, because I think that's really what it is. So, you know, Henry Kissinger, what is his whole career been really? So he ran the state department and he was like, you know, an operator for groups like the Trilateral Commission and a lot of these other entities

that want, like, global technocracy as sort of designed by groups like the Rockefellers, you know, for quite a long time. And at the State Department, you know, sort of turned using the State Department into an engine for coup d'etats, you know, into an art form. And then, of course, he leaves the State Department, but essentially trains up most of the other subsequent secretaries of state, including people like Hillary Clinton, for example, among others, of course, who then go on and do regime change. So, you know, he's a coup guy, you know, and definitely very into real politique and all of these things and a war criminal and obviously doesn't care about the little people. I think one of his more infamous quotes is about,

you know, calling U.S. soldiers like dumb beasts that are like pawns for the people that actually decide what happens in the world. So definitely an elitist worldview. And you also find that in this book. And it's crazy. So I mean, it basically, there's all these different parts to it, I guess. But essentially, their argument is something like, AI is going to be so much smarter than us that it's going to be able to see aspects of reality that we can't see. But we should definitely trust that whatever it tells us is in this invisible hidden reality is totally reality and not just some AI hallucination, which is like an actual term, like that's a real phenomenon where AI presents something totally false, improvably false as fact, right? So it can

very easily be, you know, whatever this quote unquote reality is that AI is identifying is delusional or just made up. It only exists in the mind, quote unquote, of the AI, right? So anyway, they don't bring that up in their book at all. They just say, AI is going to allow us to pursue this awesome quest for super knowledge and we're gonna be able to see unseen realities. But there's a trade-off, they say.

And the trade-off is that in order to unlock AI's full potential, We have to essentially sell off our ability to perceive reality, and we have to use AI as we're using it, you know, not just as we're using it now, but deepen that involvement to the point where we're essentially dependent on AI to make decisions for us. And we become cognitively diminished by AI, meaning that, you know, we aren't using our brains like we did before to make decisions and reason and perceive reality. And so AI, the machine, is doing all of that for us. That's sort of what they envision. And that's very dystopian. But then you read on and they start essentially talking about this two tier society model. So basically, they're like, well, this AI, quote unquote, revolution will be very empowering for some people. you know, the policymakers, the heads of multinational corporations, the people who design AI and code it and task it and regulate it, they'll find this very empowering. But then the people who, you know, consume AI from, you know, the consumer level or just sort of, you

know, not part of that other tier, everyone else really, will be bewildered by its opaque decision making and uh you know will be disempowered or find it disconcerting and won't really have any control over their lives anymore and then over time will cease to be able to realize what's happening to them and uh i mean that's that's literally what the book is about it's very nuts and talks about you know ai is basically going to draw people mainly this disempowered class into a new version of reality that is essentially being designed by the empowered class right the technocrats i guess you could call them it's very like matrix-esque um and very creepy and a lot of it also has to do with what they say is going to be ai control over the

information space and of course that's going to really come into its own once both ai and the internet are heavily regulated by a centralized authority which is what the un is gearing up to do next year what do you know what are they gearing up to like set the set the rules for all right here's how you interact with it because yes for ai for everyone globally a new un agency and it's backed by all the big ai companies like sam altman's open ai among others it's completely disgusting one centralized authority to control all ai and um you know the goal is to have this ai uh not just sensor information like it's doing now on social media for example uh they want it to basically write all of the all of the information so basically people will be

you know on the new internet you know they'll be consuming information but it'll all be written by ai essentially that's like essentially what they want to do as they map it out have it like um basically shape people's minds and make people uh control how people receive reality by dominating the information space and all the information people have access to and like everything they see and do hence the whole like push into augmented reality neural link i mean that's like the final phase i guess of all of this but um you know it's to basically deepen our dependence on this stuff and have the algorithm continue to choose for us to a point where we don't even know how to choose for ourselves anymore but again that's for the plebs

there's this other class that's going to be cognitively enhanced and be making all the decisions and directing how you know ai develops and whatever have you been following the debate between closed-source AI and open-source AI? No, not really. So the idea is that there's a battle within AI right now. If AI is here and it's going to be here, moving forward, we're at a critical point in the history of artificial intelligence

where we really need open-source, large-language models and training models to out-compete the open AI microsoft google's of the world and essentially give the plebs uh the power of ai hosted on their own servers um so that they can avoid the walled garden closed source structure provided by the open ais of the world it's very confusing because it's open ai but it's closed source um yeah you have this you have like sam altman and google and microsoft going in front of congress a few months ago and basically saying yes please regulate us let us create this regulatory mode so that we are the gatekeepers of artificial intelligence yeah anytime the the private super powerful

corporate world goes like regulate me harder daddy in front of congress you know there is fuckery afoot for sure um i mean basically what you have to keep in mind here and a lot of people forget this too silicon valley pretty much all of those main companies uh were made by like intelligence services or the military or with funding from one or two or if they weren't initially are now contractors and all intertwined with the national security state so okay um i mean that's why we have these things like people now getting upset about facebook censoring stuff but facebook you know was essentially tied up with darpa and you know the cia through peter thiel uh from from the very beginning right so is it really that surprising that they would censor

on behalf of the state no they're an independent private company no that's like a total uh that's a lie like the whole thing about silicon valley being all these like humble entrepreneurs tinkering around in their garage and look at what we've made with the american an entrepreneurial spirit. I mean, that's such bullshit. Like if you look into any of these big companies, you always had, you know, these powerful entities of the state there. And so there are extensions of state power, even if you want to think that they weren't necessarily at the origins, you can't deny that now. I mean, they fused essentially. That's why you have people like Eric Schmidt, which is why reading this book is really important. This is the most influential

guy on AI policy in the US right now. He's funding salaries of like all of the Biden administration's top AI people. It's totally illegal for him to do that, but he's doing it. And even like mainstream media, like Politico's reporting on it and nothing's happened. It's crazy. It's just, he's in charge. And he ran the National Security Commission on AI, which basically laid out all of the policies. And that commission was the CIA and people tied up with the CIA, like former heads of In-Q-Tel that are very close friends of Schmidt, uh, military people that are also tied up with Schmidt. Cause he used to be head of the, not the head, but used to be involved with the defense innovation board. And, uh, and then, you know, the big Silicon

Valley companies, Amazon, Microsoft, um, all of those guys deciding what happens. I mean, they're really the same entity at this point because they're all either military intelligence contractors um and you can't really decide where one ends and the other one ends and you have all of these silicon valley billionaires you know they fund congress essentially at this point or the dnc or the rnc so um you know the national security state silicon valley blob is what runs the us and they're going to have their ai and so they're really i think what's going on now in terms of the battles of AI, well, I mean, sure, there's this open source component, but there also is this competition over like, which elite faction, you know, essentially, you know, there's this blob

in the US. And there's also like a bricks blob, I guess, you know, like in China, for example, of their tech companies, you know, who's going to get their AI adopted by emerging markets in the global south. And that's where a lot of the focus is, is to do all this stuff, you know, in Latin America, Africa, Southeast Asia. It's, I don't know, definitely something to look at there in terms of the dynamics, because they talk pretty openly about it. But the justification that, you know, these groups like Schmidt's group give for, you know, winning that factional battle is in order to beat China, we have to become China and we have to compete with China's, uh, what they call the China's civil military fusion model, which is, you know, um,

civilian sector, the private sector and the military are fused in China. They're working together towards this goal. So, you know, the U S has to follow a develop a model equivalent to that, which is, um, that is fascism. That is straight up fascism guys. Um, and that is what eric schmidt who is basically uh one of the people puppeteering the biden administration because obviously joe biden is not in charge of shit um you know is that's what he wants to do with the u.s and i was gonna say now that you mentioned it's pretty hilarious because the effort that the government's putting in to put up a facade that there is some separation between the government and the private sector it's like kamala harris is our aisar it's like what

like what the fuck does she know about ai no no i mean you know yeah that that's that's nuts um yeah the ai czar is actually eric schmidt they just won't tell you because he's funding all their experts and like developing all the policies with like his people it's like he's like single-handedly funding most of the federation of american scientists and stuff i mean it's just unreal uh but then at the same time you know you have the schmidt crowd and then you have the peter thiel crowd right and the peter thiel crowd is very involved in the development of this um ai weapon and ai surveillance technology they've been testing a lot of it out in ukraine and are going to be testing it out in the middle east now for sure yeah and i i saw in your

newsletter wasn't you wrote an article about it but um i can't recall her name but was diving into andrew stravula uh pabst yeah yes and um yeah andrew palmer lucky who created oculus went and started this private defense company and yeah palmer lucky was a thiel fellow right so he got a bunch of money from peter thiel and then he makes oculus rift and then it gets bought by facebook where peter thiel has been sort of directing at least in the early days was very involved in directing stuff as their first big investor and at the same time he was making the tia front otherwise known as palantir um yeah a lot of interesting stuff happening there obviously and now palmer lucky is uh running anderle which is um you know making a lot of this ai weapon

stuff for the military but also a lot of it has been already set up that tech on the u.s mexico border to like basically autonomously uh you know do border control stuff and they're not stopping people from coming in so it's very possible that it's mainly there to stop people from leaving at some point not to black pill people but um oh sorry no because it's funny because i was at an event a few weeks ago and andrew was a point of topic and the way it's being pitched is like hey if you're conservative you don't like the big military budget andrew is going to be able to accomplish what the u.s military can accomplish with two percent of the budget and that's how people yeah autonomous drones that um you know don't really have that much human oversight and

i mean that the ukrainian military is doing that now i don't think it's necessarily with andoril drones even though andoril drones are like used by the ukrainian military but they're like uh all they've gotten rid of human oversight on some of their drone attacks now that is so bad i mean that's like skynet level crap um we should not be supporting that and i mean i don't know i think it's silly that there's like libertarian leaning people that fall for this because it's like aren't you empowering the state with like doom weapons like shouldn't you not i don't know it's cheaper we save tax money yeah well i mean i know well they always have their pitch right it's cheaper it's easier it's

more convenient but what will you lose um human oversight over war um the ai deciding who lives and who dies and okay i i don't like that trade-off personally and also i mean the wars why aren't people remembering that the whole point is that uh the wars are banker wars so like oh okay the banker wars will be cheaper what a win you know i don't really see that was being good why don't we uh destroy the bankers and then their wars will stop well that's uh i watched the 45 minute documentary on the banker wars after shit started popping up in israel and palestine i forget it was in that or continued falling down a rabbit hole but you mentioned it in the beginning of the show we should probably get back to like the origins of

zionism was you had mayor rothschild or one of the rothschilds at the beginning of the story Let's go back farther. So again, go to mintpressnews.com, search for my old article, The Untold, I think Untold Story or Untold History of Christian Zionism. That's one of the two. So Christian Zionism and really Christian Zionism precedes Zionism, Zionism. Yeah. So the founding father of Zionism, sorry, my cough keeps coming back. The founding father of Zionism is Theodor Herzl, who wrote this book called The Jewish State. I don't know, I was either the end of the 19th century or early 20th century. But the Puritans back in the 17th century in Britain, and then later in the American colonies, were calling for a Jewish ethnostate in Palestine

back then, as a necessary requisite to fulfill end times prophecy. So that basically, we need to make this happen. So Jesus will come back. That was the mentality there. And then, you know, it didn't really get that far with the Puritans alone. But then you have this one guy come on the scene. He's a British preacher, John Nelson Darby, I think is his name, if I remember correctly. Sorry, man, I wrote about this stuff a few years ago. So I don't make get a little weird on the names but he basically developed um i think it's called christian dispensationalism which sort of divides history into different eras like so now we're in the messianic era and all of that and he also developed uh the rapture as a as a thing so you know the rapture is very common in american

christianity but it didn't exist until the early 1800s no one believed in it before and it has no scriptural basis. It doesn't, there's no scriptural basis for the rapture in the Bible. There's nothing that says it anywhere. Just letting people know, because there's a lot of people that are like in this messianic movement within Christian Zionism. Oh, we have to, all this stuff has to be happened to be fulfilled because once it happens, you know, there'll be the third temple when it's there will trigger the beginning of the tribulation and the rapture has to happen before the tribulation. so we won't be here and we won't have to suffer all this stuff that we helped create. Okay, but no one believed in the rapture until the 1800s. And it was this one guy in his church

that developed it. So it's not in the Bible. So try not to make hell on earth, please. That's what I'm trying to get at there. Anyway, so this guy became really influential and it kind of spread all over the place. And you basically had a couple different things happen in the 1800s. But one that's really important is that you start having like elite people in America, in Britain, getting really involved with this idea of an ethno state, a Jewish ethno state in Palestine. And it was at the time completely rejected by the Jewish community globally, really not into it at all. And so you had there's this one rabbi that was sort of into it. Kalischer is his last name. And he sort of developed this movement, but it was very fringe at the time in Judaism that we can't wait for God to fulfill the messianic era. So we have to

hasten the coming of the Jewish Messiah. And this sort of torch has been picked up since by the Chabad Lubavitch movement, which is very, very influential, by the way. So for example, in the Trump administration, you have Mike Pence and you have Mike Pompeo, but Jared Kushner is very tied up with the Chabad Lubavitch movement. So is Netanyahu. So is Robert Maxwell and a lot of different powerful actors over the years. Anyway, getting ahead of myself, sorry. So Kalischer wrote a letter in like 1830 something to one of the Rothschilds. Yeah. And then the guy, Charles Taze Russell, that later creates this church that becomes the Jehovah's Witnesses, also writes to the Rothschilds asking for an ethnostate in Palestine. And there's a few of these letters

that are written. And then eventually you get the Balfour Declaration in like 1917. But before then, you get something called the Blackstone Memorial, which is like at the end of the 1800s, you have a letter from some of the most powerful people in the United States, none of them Jewish, really. Well, there might have been a, you know, out of 100 something signatories, like a handful of jewish people um calling uh it was written to the secretary of state of the u.s at the time i forget who was president um but they're calling for the establishment of the state in palestine and this is all before theodore hersel right was even around and the people that signed that black memorial it's jp morgan jd rockefeller members of congress mayors of new york and boston

uh supreme court justices i mean like super powerful people they're all you know wasps they're not jewish people right and they're saying we need this to happen and then if you look into the history of theodore hersel himself his whole movement was shaped by a british guy who i think was uh stationed at uh the british embassy in austria william heckler who was like a total i mean he's a freemason totally obsessed with the third temple had like replicas of the third temple and his office was just totally obsessed with it um and felt like the ethno state and jewish ethno state in palestine had to happen for the end times he's the guy that like gets uh sort of mentors hersel in some ways connects him with powerful political people

specifically like in Germany and in that part of Europe and like basically gives his movement the early Zionist movement political legitimacy which of course later develops and then you have powerful people in countries around the world Europe and also the U.S. people like Louis Brandeis for example who are Jewish who become very involved in the Zionist movement but it took a while for people who were actually Jewish to want the ethnostate in Palestine and you don't really have mass support for it in the jewish community until after world war ii so there's a lot of powerful actors that wanted this to happen for very particular reasons uh a long long time ago and not necessarily because they think it's best for the jewish community so again definitely go

and read that article because i mean i'm just paraphrasing it and i wrote it four years ago you know but this history is really important because you have a lot of people who still feel that way, guiding current events. And it's not for the benefit of Jewish people, or for the Palestinians, or for Christians, or any of these people, you know, it's an obsession with the apocalypse. And people really need to look into this because I personally don't want to have the apocalypse happen and blow up everything because people think it's going to bring their messiah back well yeah yeah it's a self-fulfilling prophecy with uh no good yeah it's this whole thing of like let's play god i mean you see it with transhumanism too let's become the gods now

and then these other people in this arena are like well let's not wait for god to do it let's take matters into our own hands and force him to do stuff it doesn't work that way guys yeah i'm just envisioning the domino meme where it's like some dude invents the idea of the rapture in the 17th century and then the big domino is like nuclear holocaust in 2024 or something like that well it's like sad because there are like so many people that are like it doesn't matter all the bloodshed in israel and palestine and what happens as a consequence of it in world war three let's support all of that because i'm gonna get raptured out of here dude it's not in the bible this one guy made it up and if you look into him he was like not a normal dude yeah and um i

guess one figure i didn't really bring up in terms of the christian zionism thing was the guy that really popularized that outside like among the masses so before this view right you know jd rockefeller jp morgan it was like very among the american elites and there's also a lot of overlap with freemasonry so charles tase russell who i mentioned earlier the guy that you know helped create the jehovah's witnesses um look up where he's buried and what his tombstone looks like just leave it there um definitely an interesting fellow who uh happens to be buried under a giant masonic pyramid wait what was his name whatever james um charles uh charles taze russell t-a-z-e charles taze look up the the tomb logan we're gonna pull yeah he would give like these big

speeches to christians and jews alike saying we got to make a jewish ethnostate in palestine like in at the end of the 19th century and stuff i mean people overlook this stuff but i mean these are definitely influential people but anyway the guy i didn't mention who's really influential is a guy named cyrus schofield who wrote the schofield reference bible and if you look at into yeah there it is i mean totally normal dude wants to be buried under that you know um jesus christ whatever yeah sorry um no no not interrupting at all um yeah so the the scofield reference bible guy basically cyrus scofield start uh had to leave where he was originally from because of corruption scandals and like he abandoned his wife and

daughters and was a drunk and was basically an all-around piece of shit and eventually he gets involved with some like elite people even though he's like sort of tried to revive himself as a um a different kind of uh i guess preacher getting into this christian dispensationalist movement that i talked about earlier and then he uh you know out of nowhere this like small town preacher gets invited to join this like really exclusive uh secret society in new york called the lotus club and uh we're like andrew carnegie and the vanderbilts and all these guys were members so like what is he doing there and uh that club ended up financing him to write what is called the scofield reference bible and then arranged for him to go to england where he got

the first reference bible printed in by oxford university and then thanks to all these elite connections. It was basically became like the main Bible used in seminaries throughout the United States. And I think also in the UK. And this is important because so the Skype, this Bible is, it's the King James version, but it's like annotated by Cyrus Schofield, even though he wasn't a trained theologian, and had started off like, you know, having all these issues with like, forging documents and bribing people. And like, yeah, so anyway, that's his background, but he's, so he's interpreting all this stuff, and it basically became the standard for a lot of seminaries in the U.S., and that's how it sort of got out, and so a lot of

interpretations of the Bible come from that, that are, you know, things like, that you hear from a lot of Christian Zionists, like, if you curse Israel, you will be cursed, and if you bless Israel, you'll be blessed, which by these groups becomes something like, if you criticize Israel, you're cursing Israel. And so you're going against the Bible by saying anything negative about Israel's government. Right. And it goes back to that when it comes from the Schofield reference Bible. Very weird. I don't know. It's definitely worth looking into Cyrus Schofield and who he was because, you know, whether you're a Christian or not, I think honestly this history matters. And I think especially if you're a Christian, it matters because, you know,

you should be concerned with uh you know the lack of how should i phrase this like um the focus of christianity in my opinion should be you know as close to the truth as jesus taught it right not necessarily like people like john nelson darby and all these guys in the 1800s and cyrus scofield adding their interpretations to it like maybe you should go back earlier before like all these centuries of like uh corrupt catholic popes and then you know corrupt people like cyrus scofield started interpreting stuff for you know their political benefit you know so i mean it's definitely worth considering some of this stuff you know what i mean so again um if you want to know how the middle east is going to play out or at least rather where they're going

to try and take this, definitely look into the stuff because it's been going on for a long time and it definitely precedes Theodor Herzl and all of that stuff to a significant, significant degree. And this same line of thinking is still influencing events today. Lineage of radical Christians trying to bring about the rapture is why we're... it's not just christians though yeah it's like there's people in israel and people in the us and arguably beyond i mean i'm not you know i haven't like in uh studied islam that extensively like so a lot of this line of research at mint press happened because i like majored in religion in college so i had a lot of background but i never really have studied islam but i know there's like

messianic varieties of islam as well so it's very possible that like on their side they also sort of want to bring out their messiah too i mean it's more than possible you know you have all these different groups pushing for their different end time scenarios they think are going to favor them in some way um but again to go back to this quote from from gareth ike that i sort of said earlier let's get off the chessboard stop playing these guys's uh game because it's very bloody And it's very nasty. It's very against human freedom and the values that I think most, you know, sane people share. Right. Yeah, no, it's I mean, going back to the Bible, like an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. I'm not sure if that's the Bible or. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's sort of essentially happening now in terms of justifying, you know, what's going on with Israel and Palestine and like the increasing escalations. Right.

yeah so no it's it's been crazy to see just like the the vitriol spreading we have protests here in the U.S. the Capitol building yesterday embassies around the world everybody is out looking for blood and like you said I don't know how we can do it but it definitely needs to happen it's like hey people everybody walk off the chessboard you're being manipulated and going about to well you may not be able to convince other people to walk off the chessboard but definitely don't feed into like the extreme let's get all divided in anger hate and anyone that doesn't believe what i believe is a terrorist mentality like that is so not helpful um and it's you know it was totally what was not helpful about covid too you know you know and it is

helpful to like you didn't get the vax you're a biosecurity threat to me and my family and my grandma you know i mean and now it's becoming clear same deal that uh what was promised that this wasn't gene therapy is it's becoming clear that there was a lot of dna that was not supposed to be in those vials well this is what happens when you trust the craziest people at darpa in the military to make a vaccine for you without any sort of safety studies of any meaning in oversight and call it operation warp speed they jabbed a dozen mice it looked good good in the mice yeah yeah i think how long how many days did they like follow up on the mice too i feel like it was like not long you know sort of like those monsanto roundup studies where they like knew

that the mice were all going to get tumors after like three months and so they made sure the study only lasted two months yeah right yeah but it's and it is trust the science trust the science and then like you know because it's not like science can be manipulated by the people who manipulate literally everything i mean in the whole it's hilarious going back to the lack of critical thinking that exists in the world and the attempt to diminish that even further with ai it's like science is literally don't trust anything like test test test it's like no literally ai is being set up to be like the mother of all psyops it's like use ai to like put out a bunch of content pretend it's people like just give people crazy information overload so they're

totally bewildered and then depend on another ai to filter out the news for you and tell you what you should believe they literally say that in the book and that's like what's happening it's nuts that's where i mean things like noster that's what i think it's going to have to get to is literally when you send a message out on the internet and i don't this is a problem that still hasn't been solved yet but you should have something equivalent to a ubi key it has a private key on it that you sign and attest to the message like this actually came from me the physical human being um and if i don't have this pgp signature this private key signed next to anything i put on the internet it's not me it's likely a bot well it's definitely going to be

superior to former twitter which is um you know x verify all humans um well they just came out with their new privacy policy let's in they just came out the privacy policy but they're going to feed all the information into their ai i'm like oh except oh doesn't elon musk back open ai i'm so shocked apparently he backed away i know but he has another ai company that he's made too that's going to be all tied into the x super family of companies yeah and i mean if i'm sure you've been paying attention but you can see the light nudging that's happening on x uh to really cattle hurt people to like never leave the platform like the one change they made two weeks ago which is like if you have a link going outside of the site it's just like a picture it

doesn't even have like an article uh subtitle subtitle metadata it's it's only gonna get worse it's only gonna get worse and there's a lot of people who like just can't live without social media so like they'll just stay forever and get psyoped into oblivion by ai uh-oh yeah what are your thoughts on master i know you're on there um we talked about it so yeah i've i've been kind of tied up for like three or four months so i haven't really gotten to like use it or really twitter much um i'm kind of avoiding it because it um not not noster necessarily um but like twitter just because i blah you know i mean just social media in general can be just kind of exhausting and obviously the algorithm is well for people that don't remember like facebook and

some of these other companies got caught like tweaking their algorithm to like manipulate your emotions mainly to make you feel like shit basically so i'm pretty sure they still do that whether it's twitter or elsewhere twitter i had to i had to stop looking at twitter as much because the for you tab for me is literally all murder videos i'm like i don't want to watch murder yeah a lot of it is like yeah so i didn't wasn't enjoying it either and was like no i don't need this and so you know if i want to tweet something i'll like you know it'll it'll be tweeted but i'm not reading anything on it anymore yeah because all right so you know after reading this book by kissinger and schmidt basically who were basically the intellectual architects of current us ai policy

and when you consider that like the u.s military literally uh like almost 10 years ago started studying how to use social media to their words control humans like drones okay um definitely want to keep your perception of reality yours you know what i mean if the goal of ai for them is to have ai control how you perceive reality and that you stop being able to do that yourself i mean that's like the ultimate mind control and population control that's what this is about and openly say in the book this has major implications for free societies and even free will okay and it's pretty clear what they want out of this so the best way to uh you know fight against that at least on an individual level is to keep your mind your own you know what i mean yeah and that

means having very robust critical thinking skills and not having political saviors that you just believe whatever they say and also talk not being online 100 of the time yeah do you have any hope that everything they're attempting to do from the cbdc to ai to this tearing down and rebuilding of of the temple it's just too much for them to to control and contain at this point and that yeah there's control yeah people are going to recognize like all right totally what the hell just happened it seems like it's over it's becoming extremely overwhelming to an extent too many moving parts and they can't manage it all which i think is part of why they're so desperate to get ai to a certain point too because they have to have ai manage a lot of it

okay but this is where freedom tech people need to get creative because it's not enough just to develop stuff where you're like okay um i want to make alternatives to existing big tech products like how do you not only divest from big tech ai products how do you uh help fuck up big tech ai products you know make them like how can you uh feed microsoft's ai a bunch of bullshit data that is basically like throwing a wrench in its algorithm yeah for example right i mean you know this is an info war but it's like it's a tech war there's a lot going on and so like maybe we're the underdogs but at the same time these guys have taken on a lot more than they can chew for sure yeah and i think they're you know very confident they're going to be able to control

stuff and ai is going to be able to do this and that but okay so just like every industry that like these guys control there's a lot of corruption like a lot of ai companies oversell their ai and they're out their algorithms you know so like i wrote about one in 2020 with covid this israeli company got this contract in rhode island to like predict covid outbreaks before they happen yeah and based on the company and this is like not audited by anyone independent this is like the company statistic they said that their ai was like 73 accurate right so if it's audited independently and it's like 50 it's like flipping a coin how is that useful right so like there's a lot of grift just like all the industries that these guys i mean because it's all about money

and power right they often create inferior products because of the obsession with money and power so like there's problems with their ai you know what i mean yeah um and so i do think at some point though based on what is in this kiss and drew book uh they're probably going to try and fake artificial like general artificial intelligence or whatever like the singularity they might fake that and try and make this new like ai driven religion and stuff and the data ism religion thing that like you all know a harari is really into i mean they might try and go that route but i doubt it will be i mean it won't be real well it'll just be a psyop sam altman's come out and said that they discovered agi internally in open ai already oh okay yeah so that's that's

amazing okay so well amazing in the sense that like it's hilarious and he's full of shit logan see if you can find that on twitter so yeah i'll have to look that up so i did a video my friend ryan christian a while ago when google covertly tried to do the same thing with their uh large language model lambda i don't know if you remember there was an engineer that got coverage and like the wall street journal in the new york times being like it's sentient guys and he had like these chat logs and then a few months later had to admit that he like forged the chat logs and it was like all but there was this huge like media push like ai's sentient the singularity is here and all these people got like jacked up on it you know yeah um but there's like a

whole effort i think to basically you know do um you know just fake it basically because once you have people being like oh there's this new great intelligence um a lot of the stuff that's posited in the schmidt kissinger book becomes a lot easier to implement you know yeah yeah i found a tweet so it doesn't have to be real no so like here here pull this up logan um apparently it was sam altman in uh in a reddit thread basically saying agi has been achieved internally there is a community note on this tweet saying that he responded saying i was just joking um right okay well okay you know just like i think it's a good rule to like never trust the fed or jamie diamond i also don't think it's a good uh idea to ever trust the world coin dweeb so like he's probably full of shit sorry

he's like literally running a scam stealing people's biometric data and sell it and giving them shit coins in return like have you seen the probably wouldn't believe the guy he's like a clear grifter and have you seen the allegations from his sister oh no more more stuff to look up look at me uh allegations i don't want to get in trouble for slander or anything but apparently his sister has been on twitter for a year saying that he molested her when he was when they were younger oh no i did not know that yeah but um that's being swept under the rug pretty aggressively Oh, gross. Well, he's gross. I can't say it really shocks me that there's a high possibility he might be grosser than I previously thought, I guess. Yeah. But basically, I think they're

going to fake this singularity thing to sort of get people to jump on the AI bandwagon and be like, okay, let's put it in charge of everything because that's what they want. But frankly, it's like you know like i said earlier i don't think it's really working the way they want and ultimately you know if they get the singularity or they convince people they get it they can do like this whole like wizard of oz thing right where basically like they're the men behind the curtain and there's this ai and like ai issues all these like edicts and diktats and like oh well ai is super intelligent and way smarter than us so we got to do whatever the ai says guys you know but i mean it could just be like henry kissinger and eric schmidt behind the

curtain being like let's carpet bomb iran you know and you should only have one kid and yeah yeah eat the bugs whatever like ai says it all it's for the good it's the super intelligence uh so we just got to do whatever it says and you know they say in their book too and a lot of other like ai experts and thinkers you know ai doesn't have logic or you know think quote unquote like humans do so it can't explain how it reaches its conclusions you know so it's all this opaque decision making computer says no and that's it right but they don't have to have actual singularity actual intelligence they just fake it and act like ai is doing all that stuff but it's really just them being like oh cool now we have carte blanche to do whatever the f we want

you know and have no accountability or ever have to explain ourselves again if you're the elite would you want that oh would you fake the singularity to get that uh yes especially if you know you can't achieve the singularity because you're overestimating ai and over hyping it all the time yeah well it's like i mean ai can do some stuff good but i can't do everything they say it can do no and that's why it's conflicting to me and why i brought up the open source versus closed source battle that's going on right now to you because i get value particularly for image generation for the website for thumbnails it does produce pretty cool images and there are stable diffusion models open source models that i can run on my own server and sort of train it

with our brand aesthetic to like pump out thumbnails very easily and for me i don't have the money to hire a designer and to do that or the time to do that and so like that provides value to me and i could see a scenario which i have my own hosted ai model on my own computer that i control that doesn't connect to the outside world and i just feed it data and say hey help me sort of crunch these numbers and give me back a income statement balance sheet um, with the financials that sit on my server, like, and do that quickly. Like that could be valuable to me and other things. Well, I'm not saying AI is bad. I'm saying the worst people in the world are making a bunch of AIs right now. And they want to put the AIs they make

in charge of everything. Yes. That's bad. That is precisely because they're the worst people in the world. Right. So, you know, that that's like my main point here. Like, I'm not trying to be like a Luddite or saying like, don't use technology, whatever, but you have to be responsible and you have to be very like aware of the plans of these people and how they, they plan to use those technologies and also how they plan to regulate them. And if they plan to make your ability to, you know, do what you just mentioned with AI illegal, right? Yeah. Because they want to make financial anonymity illegal. They want to keep control of all of these tools in the technology and centralize it right so i mean they might try and go that route i mean i

don't really know but um definitely going to i mean that's why sam altman's in front of congress why the google people are in front of congress that i mean it's so crazy how and that's why i think your statement is that they're really rushing this because they think they're losing control holds a lot of weight in my mind it's because like the fact that ai became popular this time last year and then not even a year later less than 10 months later you have all the heads of ai on congress being like regulate me harder daddy don't let anybody else use this yeah it's a very yeah accelerated exactly like it went from nothing to an existential crisis in seven months Yeah. And it's going to, I'm telling you, next year is going to be even faster than this year.

It's going to be nuts. There's going to be a lot of stuff popping off. Yeah. So, definitely time to get ready. The great election to distract all of us and divide and confuse people. Yeah. If you want to take what's coming seriously, treat what's happening with the election as the political circus that it is and give it the amount of your attention it deserves, which is not much yeah uh people i think should honestly be focusing on like how to divest from the people trying to enslave us and get prepared for what's to come yeah no i mean even

this week not being like oh sorry no i was gonna say just even this week i don't want to call what's happening i don't want to diminish what's happening in the middle east and label it as a distraction but like here in the u.s like the financial system something broke on the back end of the financial system is very obvious if you look at like interest rates and price of gold and then on top of that uh on the civil liberty side of things they just jailed that guy uh james mackie i believe his name or douglas mackie uh for seven months for making a meme about hillary clinton in the 2016 election right and so like you have like political dissidents getting thrown in the gulag obviously all the january six people yeah yeah the gulag here's the other thing i

forgot to bring up about wefpac um which is involved with the un and interpol too because interpol is a big part of it and that's important because it's not just about online and financial anonymity like eliminating that it's also about labeling people that go against that ban as cyber criminals and you can also be a cyber criminal for publishing misinformation online right and there's this push at the un under sdg 16 which is also the sdg that digital id is folded in all this other stuff is um to basically um you know prosecute cyber criminals globally and have interpol go after people like empower interpol to do that which is part of wefpac and the doj for people in the U.S., also part of it. All very bad, right? So anyway, Interpol developed its

sustainable policing goals. I mean, I wish I was making this up, but it's to complement the sustainable development goals. And it's about deciding who's a cyber criminal and who's not. And basically, again, people that publish wrong think online, people that facilitate, um you know privacy enhancing technologies that could be used for money laundering you know yeah all that stuff and i mean they've already been doing this in like the crypto space for a while like anyone like going after people that you know developed mixers and stuff like this or yeah but this week too they tried to like pin bitcoin as supporting hamas and like the best evidence they had they were like this one wallet got two thousand dollars it's like what like they

rolled in with the guns you gave ukraine like what the hell are you talking about yeah no i know so like before this happened this conflict happened i gave this speech in may and at the in miami right and i was like referencing all these headlines saying that the next frontier in terrorism is bitcoin in the dark web it was all it's been all over the place for years they're gonna come after it and it's not like it's just like um oh they're gonna illegalize bitcoin or anything i think they're gonna try and co-opt what they can out of bitcoin and then try and negate the potential bitcoin has to be a tool for financial freedom basically yeah that's why i completely agree with you it is our job as people fighting to bring freedom tech to the world bitcoin yeah

one of those technologies that we have to get serious so bad not hatches so for like the bitcoin i'm sorry so for like the bitcoin community there's like really two camps as i see it there's the people that are like i'm into bitcoin because i think it's gonna make me shit loads of money and i can't wait for million dollar bitcoin and yada yada yada yeah and then there's the people who were like i'm in bitcoin because i want to uh destroy the bankers and their hold on society and return financial freedom to the people there is only one side there that's legitimate yeah and there's only one side there that is like deserving of respect and the other people might as well go work for jamie diamond and fuck off yeah well that is um that is one of the memes in bitcoins

you come to get rich but you stay for the revolution so i do i do agree those two sides exist but i think the more people spend well i mean you can look at it as a money thing but if If you give no crap about the financial freedom side and you're willing to collaborate to turn Bitcoin into a tool for the same people it was supposedly created to fight against, I don't respect you. Yeah. You suck. That's how I feel about it. That's why we've really been beating the drum, like, don't buy the ETF. The ETF is the whole BlackRock ETF.

The fact that BlackRock was calling Bitcoin terrible, it was anti-ESG, and then you have this complete about phase, like, oh, we love Bitcoin, we're going to get the largest ETF. I think they can use it to benefit them as things move forward, yeah. And there's a fight to be had for the control of Bitcoin, for sure. Do you want the Larry Finks to win? I don't. um you know i think it's pretty clear um at least you know people that believe in like financial freedom like what side to choose and there's a lot of work to be done there because if the people that care about financial freedom just sit back and don't do anything

to keep bitcoin as a you know as potentially helping that it will be lost and it will be hollowed out and turned into a zombie that serves the same powers that be that are fucking everything up let's not do that guys completely agree anyway i've got to go because i've got a hungry baby who's upset so you go feed your baby probably have another minute or two yeah well thank you for coming back on the show there's a lot of stuff popping off i'm sure we'll talk sooner rather than later because things are, I don't think, going to decelerate from here. But no, I'm happy to see you. I'm happy to see you back in the saddle. I know it was a tough winter for you. And yeah, so now I was thinking about you a lot in the last few months.

Well, thanks, Marty. I mean, it's nice to be back and talking about stuff and not just, you know, being a mom 24 7 but it is my first and most important job so you know gotta do what you gotta do yes yeah so uh let's come first hopefully we'll be back to work kind of normally with a better internet connection next month i'd like that very much um but it's kind of slow going because my son since we got out has been in and out of the hospital we have to go back on sunday for a few days hopefully that'll be the last of it for a while and i can kind of work again that'd be nice well uh i'll be praying for you guys and uh thank you keep crushing keep sticking the needle in the eyes of these despots who want to uh yeah that's what i live for i guess

that and and uh the people i care about you know yeah well um yeah we're gonna win a lot of black pills a lot of history but there are some white pills too well it's a i guess it's a black pill in the sense if you feel like you have like no agency over events and i don't really think that's true no like i think the people that invest in preparing and divesting and taking responsibility for themselves will be pretty well off when things um you know hit the fan so to speak i mean it's going to be crazy but you just got to be in the right mindset for it and you got to be practical about how to prepare yeah and also if you're out there because i know a lot of you are out there you email me there's a lot of people in prominent positions who believe the same things we do but

feel that they can't speak up they self-censor speak up that's what we need more of too well people just need to stop being afraid about it like the stakes are very high and i mean if you're like afraid about it all the time it's it's i mean i'll paraphrase dune you know, fear is the mind killer. It's very true. And, um, from people that have survived economic collapse, like in Argentina, for example, I live in South America. So I know people from Argentina that had to live through that. Uh, they all say your state of mental preparedness is like the most important because if you're panicking and freaking out and you don't think clearly you make bad decisions. Yeah. Mentally prepare. We'll end it there. Whitney.

it's always a pleasure likewise Marty thanks peace and love freaks