TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #472: Amos Miller And The Encroachment Of The Nanny State with Chris Hume

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

Marty sits down with Chris Hume to discuss the recent raid of Amos Miller and the encroachment of the state on all parts of life. Chris on Twitter: https://twitter.com/chrishume1689 The Lancaster Patriot: https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/ Lancaster Patriot on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheLanPatriot 0:00 - Intro 6:17 - Amos Miller raided 10:42 - State dislikes independent communities 14:28 - The problem of positive law 19:01 - The state removes your choices 24:59 - “Raw” milk and choosing for yourself 29:00 - Forgoing convenience 32:01 - Those who enable tyranny 40:02 - Money printing gives the state leverage 48:47 - Statism vs Christianity 1:00:52 - Pushing back 1:04:45 - Wrapping up Shoutout to our sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠River⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrowdHealth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Talent Co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TFTC Merch is Available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shop Now⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the TFTC Movement: Main ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Clips ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YT Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Marty Bent: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Welcome back to TFTC. I'm sitting down with Chris Hume from the Lancaster Patriot. Let's talk about a topic that we've covered loosely over the last few years, which is food security. Last week, Amos Miller had Pennsylvania State Troopers come and raid his farm because of the fact that he was selling meat directly to his community. Chris, you were on site covering the situation. What went on that day? I believe it was Wednesday or Thursday of last week. yeah thanks for having me on marty yeah it was thursday morning i received a phone call from someone letting me know that amos was being raided yet again this is not the first time this has

happened to amos you got the phone call state troopers are there so when i got there i don't know how long the state troopers had already been on site and there were as well as state troopers there were employees of the pennsylvania department of agriculture and so the state troopers are really just providing security, quote unquote. So these employees of the State Department of Agriculture obtained a search warrant to enter Amos Miller's farm and search his product. So they were inside the building there. They would not let me in. They turned me away. From what I understand, they wouldn't even allow Amos Miller, the owner of the farm, inside his own buildings while they were conducting the search warrant. So we don't know exactly what they did in there. I

I mean, and sometimes it can be difficult to get police body cam footage. So it's hard to say, you know, what they tracked in with them. They took out some of Amos's products, but they were in there ostensibly testing his products and confiscating, seizing some of his property. And then leaving a detainment order saying that I don't believe it's all of his products, but a lot of his products cannot be used or sold or can't even be disposed of. But that was the initial the initial scene, about five vehicles there, two state trooper vehicles, three state trooper individuals there and preventing entrance into the into the farm store. What was the justification of the search warrant? So the search warrant, it was an interesting search warrant. This was from an employee, I believe, is Sherry Morris within the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture.

The search warrant cited incidents going all the way back to 2016, which is interesting. So basically, Amos Miller, just for your listeners that might not be aware, Amos Miller has been conducting his organic farm operations here in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, I'd say for at least two decades. I think he took over from his father, and he's continued to improve his operations, and he has customers all over the nation. And the search warrant cited some different incidences dating back to 2016 where apparently someone, I believe it was in California, someone allegedly got sick and they allegedly consumed some of Amos' products. All of this is very vague. There's really not a direct link to Amos Miller, I think, in many of this stuff. But so they listed several incidents saying, well, someone got sick and they had Amos' products. And so the search warrant kind of listed different years, different incidents. And then the latest thing was in December of 2023. So just this past month, apparently an individual in New York and another individual in Michigan, I believe, got sick, went to the hospital, and allegedly those people were, they had E. coli, they got sick from E. coli.

And once again, they had consumed or potentially consumed or purchased products from Amos Miller's store. All of this is kind of vague. But in the end, the real justification on the search warrant, all of those things as far as, oh, someone may have potentially gotten sick, all of that was directed towards, I think it's the last paragraph of the search warrant, where Amos Miller is not licensed. He's not registered. He has not jumped through the bureaucratic hoops that the statists want him to. And so that's really what this is about at the end. I think the claims of sickness are just a pretense to shut down Amos Miller

because at the end of the day, the search warrant says, you know, he is not licensed, he's not registered, he didn't follow our mandates, and that's why we should be allowed in there. Yeah, and this particular case between the state of Pennsylvania and Amos and previously the federal government and Amos is very interesting because Amos, if I'm correct, is Amish, correct? He's part of the Amish community in Lancaster County. That's right.

Growing up in Philadelphia, we had Reading Terminal in Philadelphia, and that was one of the best sections of Reading Terminal was the Amish section. They would come in from Lancaster, sell their baked goods, their meat, and everybody loved it. And the Amish have done a particularly good job in sort of bifurcating and inoculating themselves from the rest of society, the modernized, industrialized, digitized society here in

the United States. And they've done a very good job of running successful businesses and living in their own community, particularly in Lancaster County and other parts of the country, obviously parts of Appalachia as well. And I think this is a big point in the history of the Amish in the united states they've sort of had their ability to run their operations they do it very well people love it again people in philadelphia love the the amish section of running terminal and the state seems to want to cattle herd everybody towards these hyper-regulated parts of the food industry which is dominated by very few players in the amish for a long time except we're not going to play that game we make good food we do it in a good way we regenerative

farm we take care of our animals we take care of our customers and it seems like the state does not like that right and i think this is you know maybe something of a boiling point i'm not sure in one sense i hope it does galvanize not just the amish but americans in general to stand up for food freedom you know if we don't have the freedom to choose what we eat what freedom do we have but i think there's a challenge here and there's a lot of directions we could go with this marty but But the Amish, you know, in the 1960s, I believe, they really took a stand against government education. And they said, we do not want to send our children to the state to be educated. And that was a big deal because generally speaking, the Amish, you know, Anabaptist background, they don't really want to stir things up.

They want to be left to themselves. But they did take a stand with government education. And I believe some people even went to jail over that. Some Amish men even went to jail because of their defiance of the government in that case, which, again, is somewhat out of character for the typical Amish mindset. And I think what Amos Miller is up against here, he's not only up against the statists in the federal government and, in this case, the state government. He's also up against a general mindset, first of all, I'd say in the American mind, that we need the government to regulate these things to keep us safe. That's a big problem in America. But he's also, I think, up against somewhat within the Amish community itself. Will the Amish community as a whole get behind Amos?

Or will they say, you know what, we just got to follow these regulations? And as it stands now, my understanding here, being here in Lancaster County, I think there's some hesitancy for the community as a whole, the Amish community, to really get behind what Amos is doing. And I hope that this situation, and I hope we don't have to have more like this, will galvanize them to say, you know what, we need to make a stand like we did in the 60s over government education. If we continue to roll over here and let the government tell us what we can and can't eat, we're not going to have a society left to even offer these products. The Amish way of life will end, and not to mention freedom for many other people. yeah i recall seeing you interview a pastor i believe it was friday or thursday afternoon

and when we get back to first principles and essentially what amos and other amish farmers are doing they're essentially trying to provide a good service to their community raise animals raise crops deliver that high quality food to consumers consumers making an educated decision hey i think this guy is doing a good job running his farm i think his food tastes good i think it's healthy i want to purchase that food from him you have a peer-to-peer interaction there the state feels compelled to interject themselves into at any given point in time and i thought that interview you had with the priest was pretty illuminating because you get back to like biblical um sort of the biblical stance on this like if there's no harm done there shouldn't

be any crime and there shouldn't be any persecution on behalf of or towards the person providing the service could you elaborate on what what the pastor said during that that brief interview with him yeah that was uh pastor joel saint he's a pastor here in lancaster county of independence for Foreign Bible Church. It's irbc.church if you want more information on Pastor Joel. And one of the things I really appreciate about Pastor Joel is that from the pulpit and also just throughout the week, he is engaging in the public with the law word of God and explaining how the Bible applies to all of life. And that's one of the things, it's very sad in America where we're at right now, where we are. We have such a tradition, a history of Christian thought and Bible-based

ethics, and we've abandoned that. And one of the important things that Pastor Joel brought up in that interaction was this idea of administrative law and the government, you know, interjecting itself in interactions between people. So if you look at the Bible, you look at biblical law, it's it's ensuring that justice is done between a man and his neighbor so those those are the two parties in the in the interaction if you will it's me and my neighbor it's me and someone else and if i wrong someone then that person can can go to the magistrate and say hey i've been wronged by this person here's my case and that's that's you know there's much more we can get into there marty but in a nutshell that that's the biblical idea of justice now there's some more things we

could cover. But the point is that the state coming in, we've created a statist system in America where the civil government now is proactively trying to, quote unquote, protect and manage our affairs. And R.J. Rushduni years ago said, once law becomes positive in the sense that the government can make laws that say, hey, we're going to make all these laws in order to protect the health of the people, once that becomes the MO of a society, tyranny is inevitable because the government will now say, it is in our interest to protect you. So now every law we make, we have authority to do this because it's in your best interest. Biblical law says, look, if someone has wronged you, now you go to the magistrate. And of course, in Amos' case,

you know, people can have complaints about a business and we could talk about that as well, you know, a willing seller, willing buyer, but I don't have a problem with people saying, Hey, I got a complaint about this product or that product. But as far as saying that he has, he's done evil, uh, that's, we don't see that in this case. Uh, nothing Amos has done violates the law of God. Nothing Amos has done is, is immoral. Amos has simply run afoul of a statist government saying you have to follow our regulations if you want to serve your neighbor. and this is really the bane of man-made law in america we we elect these officials and i think one of the worst things we do whether we vote democrat or republican is we assume and we

continue this idea that they can just make law and they have the authority to tell us you know well if we made a law so therefore now you have to follow this regulation and that's that's an affront a violation of biblical law that is and not only is an affront to biblical law but the state's interjection between these peer-to-peer transactions with willing participants is completely counterproductive because you look at the state particularly the agricultural industry in the united states it's hyper centralized the end product is frankly unhealthy for people we have diabetes rates at all-time highs we have childhood diabetes rates at all-time highs life expectancy is falling here in the united states heart disease is the leading

killer one of the top three leading killers now it's fentanyl i believe but heart disease is still up there and the state's interjection in this market has not produced a positive outcome for all of society you have to keep doubling tripling quadrupling down to the point where again they're attacking an Amish community that is sort of had this unwritten agreement with the rest of society in the United States like hey leave us alone we're going to do our thing and that's been going pretty well and good for many decades now and now they seem to be grasping for more here and again the outcome has been completely counterproductive and a net negative for society overall we need more decentralized distributed regenerative farmers in the world particularly in the U.S. and the

government is directly attacking that right now right yeah and there's a passage in the bible it says the fallow ground of the poor would yield much food but it is swept away through injustice so you have this idea of and you know somebody might say well amos miller he's not a really tiny tiny farmer but in the grand scheme of things he's a small farmer compared to the huge industrial commercial producers i would say he's probably you know one of the the bigger of the small farmers. So he's the target of the government, because if they can shut him down, you know, then they can go next. I mean, and if you think, you know, you got an even smaller operation than Amos Miller's, and you think you're safe, you're not, unless the people oppose this

and resist this tyranny. And you're right, it's completely counterproductive. And that's why the scripture over and over again talks about how when tyrants oppress the poor and they exact taxes on the grain, it hurts, it hurts everybody. And, you know, it's just very interesting to hear, you know, overwhelmingly, I'm hearing a ton of support for Amos, but there are people that are still out there saying, you know, you just got to, just got to follow the government regulations here. And that's another problem that people think the government actually cares about our safety, actually cares about our health, when, you know, we have, you know, not to mention the vaccine that was pushed by, by government bureaucrats, not to mention that millions of babies are murdered

via abortion, you know, with the approving nod of government officials, all the commercial products with all the, the additives and the chemicals, they have no problem with any of that stuff because at the end of the day, you know, those companies are lobbying them. They're paying their corporate taxes. They're benefiting. The government doesn't care about our health and our safety. What they want is control, and they want compliant subjects. And Amos Miller represents the antithesis of that. He represents the antithesis of the nanny state. The nanny state wants us to basically have no other option but to buy the slop that the government mandates.

It's the same as education, actually. My pastor, Joel, was talking about this. It's the same thing with education. The government wants you to have no other option than to send your kids to the government schools. They want that to be the only choice you have and your children to consume that ideological slop in the government classrooms. It's the same thing they want with the food. They want you to have no choice but to go to a government-approved food producer and eat that slop. And many Americans, thankfully, are not willing to give that up.

But I'm concerned, Marty, that many Americans are and that I'm just not sure where we're at as a nation and where this is going to go. And if we can't, if we don't have the freedom to eat and choose what we eat, we really don't have freedom left. This is not, in many ways, this is no longer the land of the free. Yeah, I mean, choosing what you eat, I mean, energy is the basis of life and food provides that energy to humans to allow us to go toil and work throughout the economy. And if we're not allowed to choose the energy that we're putting into our bodies, what autonomy do we have, if any? and like everything you just mentioned there like the government is a well-oiled machine you get the education the food industry and the farm industry particularly in this triangle i would say they're tightly knitted you have the education and education system feeding you the food pyramid

which is objectively just complete bs so you're learning oh you gotta eat 10 servings of grain a day don't eat meat don't eat butter eat all these saturated fats uh you're learning that in school and then you're going to the shopping center and you've got all this industrial sludge, the soy slop, if you will. And then on the back end, when that soy slop gets you nice and sick enough, you go to the healthcare system with big pharma behind it to feed you all these pills that never really make you better. They just maintain and keep you a client. And all of this, as you alluded to, is filled by the donors that are donating to the politicians to get elected. And so this is really tight-knit operation, well-oiled machine, fueled by a lot of money on the back end with special interests that is leading America as a society astray.

We're dumber than ever. We're unhealthier than ever. And big pharma is reaping the benefits by pushing these pills and these shots that really don't do anything but make people customers for life at the end of the day. Right. Right. Yeah. And there's a lot of different things we could talk about here, Marty, that come up with this case. I mean, and maybe I'll start with a few of them here or start with one of them. The idea that, you know, consuming raw milk or other raw products is dangerous. You know, you can have your opinions on that. I've been drinking raw. I've been drinking raw milk for over 10 years now. My children have been drinking raw milk. We interject. Can I interject for one second? The whole, this is a Hegelian dialectic move. The whole concept of even calling it raw milk in the first place is a propaganda technique. It was just milk until about a century ago when I believe it was Rockefeller sort of dictated that you need to pasteurize the milk. and then milk that was milk for millennia turned into raw milk and you you put this label on it that has this negative connotation that scares people away from it's just milk that's that's a great point i had never thought of that of course i had often made the argument that we've been

drinking raw milk for thousands of years but to your point it wasn't called raw milk because that was all there was uh i had never heard it put like that and that's that's that's a great way to put it um and in the end anytime you consume any product there's there's a level of risk and again the government you see i mean there's hundreds and thousands of cases of food poisoning if you will different illnesses and you know i'm not making light of anybody getting sick but i've made some food choices before where you know it really upset my stomach i got pretty sick but that was my choice and i think there might have been some benefits to that you have different philosophies on food and nutrition and microbes and bacteria and how you can develop immunity to different

things. And if we want to be free, we need the freedom to make those choices. But I've been drinking milk, put it like that, the natural way for 10 years. And it has not made me sick. You know, my children have been drinking it. But people out there that are opposed to this sort of thing, they have given up their responsibility. They have given up their self-government. And it was William Penn, actually, the founder of Pennsylvania, where all this is happening. You know, I'm here in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. William Penn said, you know, if we won't be governed, I'm going to paraphrase this, if we won't be governed by God, we'll be ruled by tyrants, something to that effect. You know, if we won't be self-governed under the law

of God. We are going to be ruled by tyrants. And for many Americans, they do not want the responsibility of making their own food choices. They want the government to tell them, this is safe, this is unsafe. And what's even perhaps more concerning is that they trust the government to make those choices for them. That people still, I mean, you know, you're probably like me, Marty. I mean, I didn't trust the government years before 2020 because years ago they were telling me it's not safe to drink milk the way my ancestors have for thousands of years. But people still, I think for many people, 2020 has just increased their utter compliance and really acceptance of a slave state where the state has become God. And that's really what this is here. Is the state God?

Does whatever the state says go? Or is there a higher standard that we have a recourse to? And I would argue, and I'm not sure the perspective that you have on the show, but I would argue that in the end here, we have to go to something even higher than the American tradition and the Constitution. We have created this system, I'd argue, with all these bureaucracy, all these departments, all this man-made law. And in the end, we have to say, look, this, what the government is doing here at Amos Miller, it is evil, defined by the eternal word of God, and we need to oppose it. And that's where we need to be really spending a lot of time thinking right now. and to paraphrase one of the founding fathers like thomas jefferson like if a law is unjust it is your duty to disobey i think we are we are at that point here in the united states particularly it's really disheartening too because you replace god actual god with the

state as your god the state's not really an inspiring god at the end of the day at all it's very uh they don't do anything right they waste money no the state wants to the state wants to make you a slave and take your children and sacrifice them uh on the altar of convenience states like like molek the ancient deities that you know the the israelites were tempted to worship these pagan nations give us your children give us your money give us your obedience and we'll make your life miserable and that's what that's what the state does you know you mentioned one their convenience. I think that's really the biggest hurdle that we have here is that life today seems convenient. It's very easy to pick up your phone, get on the internet, interact with

people on Twitter. You go to the shopping center, you go to the grocery store, you have all this food there. You don't have to go to the farmer. You don't have to go to the farmer's market. You have everything you perceive you could want in the many aisles in a grocery store with money. You have access to a bank account and apps like Venmo and PayPal, and you can send and receive money as long as you're not doing particular things. Social media, you can get on YouTube, you can get on Twitter, you can broadcast your thoughts out to the world unless they're certain thoughts. Doing things the hard way. Like one thing we've had, Texas Slim, Cole Bolton, who runs KNC Cattle Ranch down here in Austin. And, uh, we've had them on a bunch of times and what they're really working on is the thing called the beef initiative. And their, their motto is get out and shake a rancher's hand. It's really overcome that convenience of going to Whole Foods or going to the grocery store to buy your beef and to go the extra mile, meet your local rancher, shake his hand and buy beef directly from him.

Um, but the sort of crux of that is foregoing that convenience that exists. And that's one thing that Americans who are dumb, fat and happy, quote unquote, happy, think they're happy right now. Um, sort of anchor to is the convenience of the modern world. And I think that's the big hurdle we have to get over. How do we engender people to develop a sense of agency and will to go the extra mile, to forego the convenience, to do the right thing, to get the healthy food, to get the good education, to get proper preventative health care? I think that is not a question, but just a statement of the state of the United States of America right now. yeah yeah we have we have a lot of work to do um i'm sure you there's a lot other things you could mention as well uh but there's another part of this that to me is probably even more discouraging than the fact that we have created this man-made system the status system where every year whether it's harrisburg the capital of pennsylvania or washington dc the capital of the We just have hundreds and hundreds of more laws being created over and over again, just tightening the grip of tyranny. That's concerning enough. But all of that is enabled or the tyranny that ensues from that is enabled not by the legislators, not by the governors, not by, you know, anybody up there at these high levels that we elect and that we talk about.

well, here's the important thing, you know, we got to elect someone else. All of this is enabled by ordinary people, like you might have seen in those videos I shared. You know, there's about 10 people there inside Amos Miller's farm. None of those people, from my understanding, were elected officials. None of them are high-ranking people. There's three state troopers and seven employees of the Department of Ag, if I understand it. You know, probably just people with families, You know, just ordinary men and women who, you know, maybe maybe went to college for some sort of environmental degree, biology, got a job at the Department of Agriculture or the state troopers, you know, want to want to go out there and make a difference or just get a paycheck. Those are the people that are enforcing tyranny in our nation. Those are the people. And this is this is the concern we have in our nation.

And we have the churches used to lead the way you go back to, you know, the Black Robe Regiment and the American War for Independence. You had this idea that pastors would be out there calling on people to apply the Bible to all of life. Did we do it perfectly? No. But we've completely lost that. And now you have these people that many of them probably, you know, Lancaster County is a very rich, has a rich tradition of Christianity, churches on every corner. many of those people probably go to church Sunday morning, and then during the week they're raiding Amish farmers. And there's just this disconnect in their mind between the truth of the Word of God and justice in society. And in practice, they are practical statists, and the state is their God, and they do whatever the state tells them. So if it's Monday morning and the state says,

you need to go raid this Amish man's farm, take his food, lock up the rest of his food, they say yes i'll do it and as long as we have americans who are willing to enforce these mandates these directives uh we really have no hope but we but there is hope if we can change the hearts and minds of the people um but that's where it needs to start and so much of this the focus is on oh we get you know the presidential election's coming up that's going to change everything it's not going to change anything if americans are still willing to be slaves and enslave others uh you know i'm sure people get offended if i use any analogies like this but i don't really care you talk about the african slave trade and you had you know africans

enslaving their fellow africans uh to sell them into slavery and the whole system is corrupt and we have that in america we have americans like these state troopers and department of ag uh employees who are basically selling out their neighbors in service of the state and until we get americans willing to stand up and say no you know what i'm not going to follow this order there's a higher standard we will have tyranny it's what the nazis said i'm just following orders and that's what these state troopers will say yeah the uh the army of karens in in our midst that will that will enslave their fellow american at the uh at the direction of their state leaders but that i think that's something important to really dig into like how much of the karen army

going out there and taking orders is driven by fear which is rooted in the belief that the state is all powerful and if you do not listen you will face retribution and is there actual power behind that or is it all a big projection game like do we have the ability to push back against the state i think that's what a lot of americans again driven by fear they don't think that we have any recourse to push back against the state right well yeah you mentioned a couple things there i mean one uh you mentioned earlier about this idea of complacency and of course you have the concept of bread and circuses you know in the roman empire where you keep the people entertained and fed and they'll be compliant and we see something of that uh from what i understand

in china i mean just just keep the people numb give them all the entertainment give them the them the pornography, and they'll be willing slaves to the state. The only way this is going to change, I'm convinced, is if you have, and maybe it's a small group of people, and a lot of things start small, but you have people who are living for something more than their own satisfaction, their own convenience, and I believe that can only happen through the gospel of Jesus Christ. You're going to have people who say, look, my greatest purpose, my purpose in life is not to be at ease. My purpose in life is to honor Christ, and that includes loving my neighbor. And if I love my neighbor, you know, and Amos Miller, in a sense, the proverbial neighbor, even though he's

not across the street from me, if I love my neighbor, not only Amos, but also the thousands of customers who buy their food from him because they want to be healthy, if I love my neighbors, if I love them and want to see justice is done, then I have to oppose injustice. And that's what we're missing in modern Christianity in modern America. This idea that, well, I'm just going to go about my business and my, you know, my religion is just private to me. That's not how the Old Testament prophets talk. That's not how the New Testament speaks. We are to see that justice is done. And if we care about our neighbors, we are going to want to see justice established. But to your other point about the fear, the thing is at the end of the day,

tyrants only have power if they have people willing to enforce their mandates and we need i think we need a group of americans who one are willing to to resist and practice civil disobedience and say you know we're not following these mandates and if you want to arrest amos miller you're gonna have to arrest all of us um but there is there is a sense there is a risk here I mean, because you have enough, you know, you call them Karens, you know, I call them, you know, slaves of the state or, you know, robotically going in there. Those people, as long as to them, what's more important to them is their own security. If that's more important than justice and righteousness, then those of us who do want to oppose this stuff, there is a risk that we are going to be locked up in prison. There's no point in hiding that.

But as long as but that can change if the if Americans say we're not going to to follow and enforce these mandates, if enough people like Amos Miller's been sticking his neck out for decades, if enough people willing to do that, I don't think the state would even have the wherewithal and the capacity to shut it down. Um, but in many ways, Amos Miller, there's other farmers like him, but in Lancaster County, I'd say he's the biggest one doing this. Cause there are other farmers who are following all the regulations and some of them, you know, would, would, would disapprove of what Amos was doing, but I think they're missing the point that, you know, they have, they have given the state an inch and the state's not going to be satisfied with that. So they give them an inch, they want another inch and they want a mile and they want everything.

It's a, they never stop. it's a it's a machine with a lot of momentum behind it and to your point of civil disobedience and the security of the enslavers who are paid by the state i think again going back to that security it's held in that paycheck too i think this is a particularly interesting inflection point because the economic situation in the united states is systemically fragile as we know inflation has really affected the economy pretty acutely over the last two years and that's what i worry about is that you have inflation in a pretty bad spot economic situations in a pretty bad spot and so the state has all the leverage for the state employees which is like hey do you want this

paycheck do you want to be able to buy groceries week in and week out and that will have emboldened them to go obey the state's orders and lock up their neighbors and that's again and i'm not sure how familiar you are with bitcoin but that's why this started out as bitcoin podcast is why i work in the bitcoin space and passionate about it because i think the money is at the root of all this you can only fund the stupid education that teaches you the pyramid scheme uh of the the food pyramid you can only fund uh all the pharma stuff you can only fund all the big ag stuff with money that's printed ex nihilo um and if you have the dollar that's the only currency uh that you're working for and sort of beholden to that whole monetary uh policy and that whole

monetary system whereas bitcoin allows you to sort of take yourself out of that and operate within a monetary system that cannot be controlled by the state or any centralized third party for that matter and that's one thing you know i personally and other bitcoiners are hoping as we transition towards 2030s more and more people particularly people who need it like the amish and people want to stand up against the state and their encroachment on civil liberties they notice bitcoin as this way to fight back and it can provide you the security that the paycheck that the government is paying you to lock up your neighbor and actually over time a long enough time period period will actually provide you better security and so that's the hope is that

people recognize this and adopt bitcoin and that taking that action many individuals taking that action collectively is enough of a impetus to begin standing up against the state and saying, hey, we don't need your money. We don't need your paycheck. We've got this money over here in Bitcoin. Right. Now, I'm not familiar enough to make any comments on Bitcoin, but I will say, as it relates to the fiat currency, the money that the government just continues to print, another example of an unbiblical practice that leads to inflation, that leads to really theft of the next generation. And so, of course, this is just another layer of tyranny where the government comes in and says, we're going to control the money supply and we're going to

regulate that and basically debase the currency. But you mentioned as well, you know, these state employees, you know, just another thing that if Americans, this goes back to the people. I really believe that Americans at this point, I would have a hard time justifying, you know, someone working for the state unless they were they said you know what i refuse uh to enforce these things but i think people we need to take a long hard look if you are employed by the state government if you're considering it think about what you're doing um you know i'm not going to make a blanket statement but it's i certainly could not work for the state um and have a clean conscience What they are doing is enforcing man-made, unjust, evil laws.

The prophet Isaiah says, Woe to those who decree iniquitous decrees and the writers who keep writing oppression. That's what our state governments are doing, even in the reddest state. They are enforcing, they are writing man-made laws, and they're paying people to enforce them. And as long as Americans want that and are willing to enforce that, we're going to have a hard time at this. But if enough Americans are awakened and maybe through shows like yours and say, you know what, we do not want this. We want to be self-responsible and stop working for the state.

The state has no power. So that goes back to your original question. There's a fear there, yes, but it's this vicious cycle where the state says, we're going to take care of you if you take care of us and go after your neighbors. and and until we break that cycle when we're willing to pay something and give up something our neighbors are going to keep oppressing the righteous yeah and it's implodes on itself eventually we've seen this throughout history i think we're in a late stage empire uh situation similar to the roman empire i mean the parallels to the roman empire particularly are pretty stark and startling specifically the the military like rome debased their currency

added a bunch of bunk metals to their coinage to the daenerys slowly over time and they expanded their military empire and take over most of the world and then it got to a point where they debased their money so much that they were paying their soldiers wasn't worth anything and they all quit and allowed the barbarians to come in and sack Rome. We are at a similar situation here where we're debasing the money. I've read a newsletter about this a week ago, and it startled me.

It's the first time I've run the numbers in some time. But the United States has been around 248 years. 68% of the national debt has been accrued in the last 15 years. So 6% of the country's lifetime, we've accrued 68% of the debt. ballooned from 10.7 trillion in 2008 sitting at 34 trillion today which is pretty insane so we've debasing the currency as you look around the global geopolitical situation right now we're

expanding our military pretty aggressively we've had some bad losses particularly in afghanistan with the pullout there it's pretty pretty embarrassing and an interesting trend that I picked up on the last couple of months is military members, active military members on duty station across the world on Tik TOK, like warning others, do not, do not join the military because the pay isn't worth it. I'm not making enough money. So you're having that direct parallel with the Roman army back in the day where the money they've debased it so much that it's not even worth it. You actively have active duty military members taking the Tik TOK to say don't join the army your paycheck isn't worth it and right i think again this is why i

focus on bitcoin particularly because i think money is at the root of all of this um the the that is why jesus went and flipped the tables of the temple of the money changers because they were doing something that is probably one of the worst things you can do as a human it's probably one of the worst things you can do because it's very sly and imperceptible uh it happens slowly over time and one day you wake up and you have 10 inflation it's impossible to buy a house it's impossible to buy a few bags of groceries and you're like how did this happen it's like slowly but surely over time the government and the central banks kept printing money and debasing you away and that's what worries me and going back to the call to action to americans particularly

not to um obey the government don't go work for the government don't go work for the state number one the paycheck's not going to be worth it even though they can provide you a consistent one because they can keep printing money to to pay your paycheck um but it's extremely immoral at the end of the day because i think it's blatantly clear that the amount of laws that have been thrust the encroachment of the state on civil liberties has gotten to a point where it is a moral situation it is clearly immoral at least to me i think you would agree yeah there's no question to me that the system that's been set up um by by these government officials is evil and we find ourselves in it you know we find ourselves born into this nation

and and how do we dig out of that out of it so you know i understand people right now using the money and saying but we need to start thinking and you know it's time has passed to think start thinking about how do we get out of this? What do we do? You know, in the meantime, of course, when people live under tyranny, they are subjected to that tyranny. And many Americans, you know, have been working for decades and everything, all their savings, all their retirement is based on this government dollar that has been debased. And hopefully there are ways around that. I know that's something you work on. But yeah, we need to change the hearts and minds of the people, because at the core, there needs to be an appeal to something higher

than the state, and statism is rampant in America. It's rampant in the churches, and I would define statism as the civil government basically claiming for itself that which Christ has given it no authority to do, and unless you break that in the American mind, we're really going to get nowhere, because at the end, this is a religious issue. Who's God? Who's in charge? Who tells us what's right and wrong? If it's the state,

if there's no one above the state that says what's right and wrong, if whatever the state says goes, then the state is our God. And so, yeah, I served in the military four years. My father's in the military. But at this point, I mean, I would counsel anybody or anybody who asks me,

I would say, you know what? I wouldn't join the military. In fact, even when I was in, And it was very early on as I started to think through these things in civil government and biblical law, and I became very uncomfortable. You know, what are we promoting as a nation? You know, we endorse the slaughter of children at abortion mills. You know, we endorse homosexuality, sodomy. We're debasing our currency.

We are no longer a city on a hill. And until we repent, we are going the way of the Roman Empire. And I think it'll be a very, it'll be a much shorter arc for America than the Roman Empire. And so I think what worries people, again, going back to the convenience of the state and the convenience of life as it stands today, or the perceived convenience, I would argue, it's over the long run, very inconvenient due to the fact that you wind up enslaving yourself. What is the optimistic case for getting away from the state? Like when people see this and they're like, Oh, the government, yeah, it's, it's terrible. But like, what are we going to do? It's so big. It's very entrenched in our everyday lives. Like if it were just to go away tomorrow, it seems like we'd, we'd have chaos. Is this true? What is the optimistic vision for a future? Which more people stand up, disobey, disengage from pushing the state's wishes?

what's the optimistic path forward yeah well believe it or not i'm very optimistic i don't know about what's going to happen in my lifetime but again at the core of this for me at the heart of this i should say is the guaranteed victory of the church of jesus christ in the world and i think any talk about justice any talk about freedom any talk about liberty any talk about righteousness absent the christian worldview is going to crumble completely and it's probably going to make us worse off than we are now and so at the core is we need to as a people repent of our sin you know individually and corporately for our rejection of christ in his word and i think that started long ago in america even in the 1700s we need to repent of that because the hope is that

these are enemies, people who are debasing the currency, people who are raiding Amish farms, those who are supporting abortion. These are enemies of Christ. We need to revive perhaps the Christian idea of that there are enemies out there. And the Bible says Christ is defeating his enemies in history, 1 Corinthians 15. So we have to start there if we are going to have any optimism about anything changing for the better. Because if we simply replace the state as our God with another man-made God, it's probably going to be 10 times worse. But there is great hope in the message of the gospel. And it's not just for me personally, you know, some pietistic message. It changes the culture. It changes the world. And we've seen something of that over the past

2,000 years. We're going through a dark, dark time right now in Western civilization, precisely because we have abandoned the gospel and the law of God. Now, what can we do small things now to get started? Well, again, I mean, I'm going to overemphasize this. People might say it's not that important, but the churches in America need to lead the way. If you're in a church where your pastor refuses to address these issues, refuses to apply the Bible to the issue of abortion,

to the issue of currency, to the issue of food freedom, you got to get out of there because we are not salt in this world if we're not applying the truth of god's word to these areas we're not loving our neighbor so start there but also start taking responsibility for your own life my goodness if you're if you're sending your kids to the government school start right there i mean get them out of there uh and start teaching them and you might not think you're qualified i'll tell you what you're way more qualified than some statist working for, you know, the government. They have an agenda there.

They want to indoctrinate your children. Educate your own children. Get in a church where the law of God is applied to society. And start, you know what, start making some risks. I know not all of us can go out right away and be like, hey, I'm going to defy every man-made mandate. But you know what, we can start small, and this is just as important. We can support those people that are defying them.

Amos Miller, I think his case is going to hinge on whether or not the community, local here and even nationwide, gets behind him more than just donating, which is important. You can go to the LancasterPatriot.com slash help Amos for more information on that. But because they want to shut him down. They want his business closed. But are we willing to take any risks? Amos has taken a lot of risks over the years. are we willing to to stand by these people and say you know what if you're going to arrest them you're going to arrest me too these are the things we got to think about it's going to be small but

but a lot of these things you know i don't know how many people were involved in the boston tea party i don't think it was you know thousands of people uh things you know sparks that change a nation change a culture can start with a small group of people but we need to have the foundation of where we're coming from and uh that's one concern i have marty i mean that i see i see a lot of uh discouragement unrest frustration and rightfully so you know with the left for example but the the solution is just as as bad as the problem it's just more man-made law more tyranny and unless we have freedom as defined by god's word we will have no way of knowing what you know left from right here and we'll just be digging ourselves into a deeper and deeper pit

yeah small acts it doesn't take much i believe that was two percent maybe three percent of the population upwards estimates of ten percent of the individuals living in the colonies during the time of the american revolution were the ones that actually brought forth the revolution a very small minority the intolerant minority can have an outsized effect and i would echo that like we need to the state should not be our god like we have these god-given inalienable rights that people have completely forgotten about and just thrown to the wayside and again it astonishes me that today people are willing to let the state come in dictate their lives make more rules i mean as a we're hyper focused on this in bitcoin right now because you have like elizabeth warren

and all these politicians trying to demonize bitcoin and it's and there's many people backing them like yeah like shut it down and for me personally it's like are you kidding me like i as an individual can't have the agency to look at the the market for monetary goods and decide what i think is best for me the state needs to tell me what what money i can use and the money that they tell me is the only money i can use is being consistently debased and they're taking out ungodly amounts of debt and then using that money to funnel it into education that's making people stupider more docile into food that's making us unhealthier into health care that really doesn't help our health at the end of the day and most importantly into endless wars that lead to mass

deaths and suffering in other parts of the world and i don't want that done in my name and and the state and the people cheering the state are saying no like bitcoin's bad you're forced to use this this cuck buck this this petrodollar this war dollar if you will it's insanity it's literally insane when you get back to first principles and you do wonder like does anybody do most people out there even think that they have the potential for agency at the end of the day or were they born into a system where they think the the first principle sort of fact of life is that the state tells you what to do um long way right there but i think no i mean yeah that's where we're at. That's at the heart of it. And I think the reason, one of the reasons we are here

as a people in America is because long ago we abandoned this idea that the law of God is supreme. And we've said, you know what, our system we've created has become the most important thing. I mean, if you went out and talked to people on the streets and said, you know, what's, especially as you start talking about politics or government, you know, what's the most important document ever written? They're going to say the U.S. Constitution. And that's a big problem for me because the U.S. Constitution, as great as it was and still is in some ways, is not perfect. It's not inerrant. Only the Word of God is. And when we have generations of people being taught that, you know what, we can't question what the government does because they are supreme.

Whatever they say is the supreme law of the land, you know, then we're never going to get anywhere. We have to come back to the point where we say that the standard above all people, including the U.S. Constitution, is the law word of God. If it's not, Marty, I would debate anybody that would say, you know what? No, we can have justice if we have another standard. We can't. There's no other way unless people submit to the ultimate authority, which is Christ. If not, it's going to be chaos. It always is, every time. And you can't, you know, if you go the statist route and you go even the Republican route, they're going to oppose true freedom because their ultimate standard is not the law of liberty found in scripture it is man-made law and that is

a cruel task master uh you know and then and that whatever you know freedom choices with with food with money bitcoin anything else it's going to be opposed because it doesn't serve the interests of man-made government no and the piles of money behind it in the special interest right it's uh they want their money but again i think it's a i think it's doomed to implode on itself i think as you mentioned the bible says god always wins in the end and hopefully between now and the inevitable implosion of the government more people can wake up to this because that's what i worry about is if you have a complete implosion and uh and chaos if you will um could be bad but hopefully there's a middle ground where people can wake up notice that the government actually

isn't as strong as it projects itself to be you have more power as an individual you have more agency as an individual just takes the courage to speak up to stand up to push back it's really not that hard it's been done many times throughout history and right i think today particularly we actually had the best opportunity to do this due to the telecommunications technology that exists social media it's a double-edged sword yeah it's pretty terrible in lots of ways but it's also very good in lots of ways because it allows people to instill confidence in each other like hey i'm thinking this too i know you're thinking this it's like the silent majority being like are you thinking this or you think yes we're all thinking this let's stand up let's push back it's time

the government has gotten too big too hubristic and you're leading everybody astray making everybody's life worse off so yeah silver lining perhaps people will you know things like this and where we're at will cause you know the average american that the commoner i think is part of the title of your podcast right truth for the commoner yes truth for the commoner i mean we'll we'll start to wake up i know there's a period in my life where i really started to say wait a minute what's going on here is it is it loving neighbor to to regulate raw milk to to prevent when we had we have five children uh at least two of them when they were born the midwife who helped deliver our children was breaking the law i think she was committing a felon a felony i should say when

she was doing that because the state we were in at the time did not recognize her as a midwife meanwhile babies can be aborted at the planned parenthood down the road so until americans say wait a minute something's wrong here uh love of neighbor is now criminalized and hatred of neighbor is authorized something is wrong here something's wrong with the money issue something's wrong with the food. Something's wrong with the issue of life. We can no longer blindly, and we should never have, but we can no longer blindly submit to the state and say, well, whatever the state says, they're God. That's, it is leading us into a horrible place. So I hope, you know, this can help this, you know, the work you're doing, the situation with Amos Miller, that we can have

something of a change in the American mind, because if not, the tyranny will only increase for our children. And that's the thing people really need to think about. If they say, well, yeah, this is bad, but I don't really want to resist it. You're just leaving it for your children then, you know, and if we're not willing to take risks now and oppose this stuff, we're going to make it that much harder for our children to do it. And if we're not setting the example for our children. You know, we're failing them. And I've talked to, I've spoken with people who said, you know, their parents' generation, they're part of the problem that got us here. They were complacent. They were at ease. They said, well, we're not going to try to apply the principles

of justice and righteousness from the Bible in the civil sphere. We don't want to do that. And now look where we are. So we need to start taking action, even if it costs us, because it's going to cost our children even more completely agree i have two young boys myself i'm thinking that's why i do what i do i don't want them to grow up in digital slavery because that's what they're trying to push us towards chris thank you for the work that you're doing the on the ground coverage is very important i think it's crazy what you can do in the middle of lancaster county running uh running your own publication and then it can get out to the world you have tom massey tweeting about it that is again the beauty of social media and the beauty of taking agency and put taking the

effort to actually get out there and report this as it's going on because we need more eyes on this so chris thank you for the work that you're doing where can anybody who's listening to this find out more about your work how can they follow along with the amos miller case and what can they do I know you mentioned donate, and we've talked about getting out there and disobeying, but anything else that we didn't mention that people should be aware of? Well, yeah, I would recommend go to the LancasterPatriot.com, sign up for our email updates, follow us on Twitter or X, Facebook, Gab. I think there's going to be some more stuff happening very soon

that I'm hoping will get even more reach than the initial raid. As unfortunate as that was, it was able to be shared with a lot of people. I think something else big is coming up. I think it's going to be exciting. It's going to be an opportunity to resist, to show the state that people are behind Amos Miller. So make sure you're following our accounts, whether it's Twitter or Facebook, or just sign up for email updates. And we're not going to stop with this because if we roll over on this, the state keeps going. If they're resisted, then they've really got

to think twice before. If it's just Amos Miller they're up against, you know, they might be able to win. But if it's the American people, it's going to be a bit more of a problem. So go to the LancasterPatriot.com and follow us and hopefully we'll have more information, more coverage as we go here.

Keep crushing it, Chris. I think we're going to win. We're going to win. Slowly but surely. That's all we got today, freaks. Peace and love. Thank you.